Roderick on the Line

Ep. 239: "Coming Into My Agency"


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00:00:24   super train hello hi John hi Merlin [TS]

00:00:34   how's it going what captain sensible [TS]

00:00:48   came up like twice this weekend no [TS]

00:00:51   impossible yeah yeah Paul Shaffer [TS]

00:00:54   mentioned him on I think wait wait don't [TS]

00:00:56   tell me so no one wants to be it for [TS]

00:00:58   watch yes well it's a great video [TS]

00:01:02   because they do like a conga line all [TS]

00:01:04   the way through a hospital they just do [TS]

00:01:06   a retrospective of videos featuring the [TS]

00:01:10   singer wearing a beret is the thought I [TS]

00:01:13   just had you got him you get kind of [TS]

00:01:16   sensible always wore red beret yeah get [TS]

00:01:19   the guy don't know his name the guy from [TS]

00:01:20   Survivor beret look yeah see I the [TS]

00:01:25   tigris throw the fight I think joined a [TS]

00:01:27   shell frequently wore a beret come [TS]

00:01:29   listen um what about uh did did toni [TS]

00:01:37   tennille wear a beret at any point Tony [TS]

00:01:39   to know mrs. drag yeah oh I got one uh [TS]

00:01:43   The Walrus guy from Doobie Brothers Jeff [TS]

00:01:47   oh yes Castro skunk bear Baxter said its [TS]

00:01:52   combat pastic yeah he wore Bray uh it's [TS]

00:01:58   true let me think let me think let me [TS]

00:02:00   think berets braised famous berets [TS]

00:02:02   name's Roger Alex [TS]

00:02:07   no I'm not you know it's real early i'm [TS]

00:02:10   sorry you know what i would draw the [TS]

00:02:11   question that's all right well I'll [TS]

00:02:13   think about it and as it as it comes up [TS]

00:02:15   i'll capture those people make a [TS]

00:02:17   playlist Groucho Marx in his in his [TS]

00:02:18   later years not not he was a musician [TS]

00:02:20   not known primarily for being a musician [TS]

00:02:23   and yet you know what technically [TS]

00:02:25   there's videos Lydia Lydia have you seen [TS]

00:02:28   Lydia Lydia the tattooed lady the video [TS]

00:02:32   for that yeah he wore brain as later [TS]

00:02:34   yours but not like a skunk Baxter mmm [TS]

00:02:37   yeah it's early it's really really early [TS]

00:02:39   what's the what's the TV show us with [TS]

00:02:51   the guy uh who was Luke who invented [TS]

00:02:57   Seinfeld Oh Curb Your Enthusiasm notice [TS]

00:03:01   you curb your enthusiam curb your [TS]

00:03:03   enthusiasm Suzy Azam's sir breaker on [TS]

00:03:08   there uh I don't get who's on there is a [TS]

00:03:12   shine Nelson's uncle bob is on there [TS]

00:03:15   yeah yeah super supe de Valle Super Dave [TS]

00:03:18   Einstein is on there yep yeah he what [TS]

00:03:20   kind of name is that a Super Dave you [TS]

00:03:23   know he used to write for The Smothers [TS]

00:03:24   Brothers with Steve Martin back in the [TS]

00:03:26   60s yeah no that was a joke that was a [TS]

00:03:29   pad reference to reference to time ever [TS]

00:03:33   tell you the story which one story and [TS]

00:03:36   uh it's really early here it's very [TS]

00:03:39   early are you on the west coast uh yeah [TS]

00:03:41   okay yeah so not technically early well [TS]

00:03:44   uh you know early uh no I was um so [TS]

00:03:49   Shawn and I were in Palm Springs and we [TS]

00:03:58   we went to visit my uncle who at the [TS]

00:04:00   time lived lived in Palm Springs and uh [TS]

00:04:05   and we were gonna have dinner there he [TS]

00:04:08   said you know why don't you come have [TS]

00:04:09   dinner at the house he didn't say that [TS]

00:04:11   enthusiastically because my uncle didn't [TS]

00:04:13   he never said anything that [TS]

00:04:14   enthusiastically and he really didn't [TS]

00:04:16   care if we joined inverted [TS]

00:04:18   no but he did but he did uh he did [TS]

00:04:23   that's right that and as you're playing [TS]

00:04:25   my uncle yeah okay hey Jenna give an [TS]

00:04:29   actor line readings legit he does not [TS]

00:04:32   care if we're having dinner but he is [TS]

00:04:34   obligated to invite us to dinner and [TS]

00:04:36   turns out at the time a Bob Einstein [TS]

00:04:41   Super Dave Osborne and his wife Sean's [TS]

00:04:44   aunt are also in Palm Springs and so at [TS]

00:04:50   the time so my uncle hearing this or [TS]

00:04:53   hearing this says well why don't they [TS]

00:04:56   come to dinner too and he doesn't [TS]

00:04:59   doesn't really care if they come to [TS]

00:05:02   dinner either but be equally nonplussed [TS]

00:05:04   he's not excited he says bring along [TS]

00:05:05   some Einsteins he's fine right he's fine [TS]

00:05:09   he he's not a yeah he actually is a cook [TS]

00:05:12   he likes to cook so he's gonna be [TS]

00:05:14   cooking the dinner and that's what he's [TS]

00:05:16   excited about he's excited it get to [TS]

00:05:18   cook for people it doesn't he's not [TS]

00:05:20   interested in me or them okay but they [TS]

00:05:23   show up super Dave Osborne Bob Einstein [TS]

00:05:25   very tall guy Shawn's bah aunt is a [TS]

00:05:30   smaller lady we mill around we're having [TS]

00:05:34   cocktails it's a nice you know it's a [TS]

00:05:36   nice experience everybody's enjoying [TS]

00:05:37   each other and Bob Einstein tells a [TS]

00:05:42   story about the fact that his the reason [TS]

00:05:46   his brother is Albert Brooks L Brooks is [TS]

00:05:50   his brother and he said that his father [TS]

00:05:53   named him Albert Einstein yeah that's [TS]

00:05:56   why I had the stage name Albert Brooks [TS]

00:05:58   right that's a good story since a great [TS]

00:05:59   great story tell it at cocktail parties [TS]

00:06:01   sure but then my uncle is standing there [TS]

00:06:04   holding a drink in his hand migos [TS]

00:06:05   Einstein Einstein what kind of name is [TS]

00:06:09   that ions time hmm and it wouldn't there [TS]

00:06:15   wasn't a lot of in addition to probably [TS]

00:06:17   not knowing who any of the people are [TS]

00:06:19   that we were talking about there was a [TS]

00:06:21   time when that was a very normal [TS]

00:06:23   question to ask in America that's right [TS]

00:06:25   not all that happy question but it was [TS]

00:06:27   not at all unusual to ask questions like [TS]

00:06:30   you don't do this so much today but to [TS]

00:06:32   say to someone [TS]

00:06:32   like where are you from yeah what kind [TS]

00:06:35   of name is that or or weekly name is [TS]

00:06:37   that and and my my uncle who had a [TS]

00:06:42   Scandinavian last name um it was a he [TS]

00:06:45   was exhibiting the kind of casual [TS]

00:06:48   anti-semitism that used to be very very [TS]

00:06:51   popular among the white Anglo impossibly [TS]

00:06:58   casual like a well-worn windbreaker yeah [TS]

00:07:01   just that sort of golf club set the type [TS]

00:07:03   of people that donated money to the Art [TS]

00:07:05   Museum although the art museum was [TS]

00:07:08   actually probably paid for largely by [TS]

00:07:11   the the you know the the benefactors who [TS]

00:07:17   probably the top three givers were Jews [TS]

00:07:19   sure you meet somebody you meet a [TS]

00:07:23   multiracial child and yes it is she [TS]

00:07:27   adopted Yeah right or yeah right because [TS]

00:07:30   you see the video of the lady running on [TS]

00:07:32   screen to get the kids off the BBC [TS]

00:07:33   program everybody assumes the [TS]

00:07:35   housekeeper of the house what kinda name [TS]

00:07:37   is that what kind of name is that and [TS]

00:07:39   Super Dave uh Bob Einstein you know he [TS]

00:07:45   he's not fair he's really dry he's very [TS]

00:07:47   dry for Palm Springs he's a very dry man [TS]

00:07:50   yep not it was you know non plus he's [TS]

00:07:52   been fielding that stuff his whole life [TS]

00:07:54   I'm sure but boy sean and i made hay out [TS]

00:07:56   of it uh for many many many hours [TS]

00:07:59   driving across America what kind of [TS]

00:08:01   names the kind of name is that all right [TS]

00:08:03   time there's not really that many [TS]

00:08:06   situations where that has anything less [TS]

00:08:10   than anything better than a neutral [TS]

00:08:12   meaning yeah yeah nope that's not the [TS]

00:08:16   kind of it's almost like you know it's [TS]

00:08:18   the classic like seeing a black kid on a [TS]

00:08:20   bike and going did you steal that you [TS]

00:08:22   know it's a good thing is he's in Palm [TS]

00:08:25   Springs you know it's not like it's not [TS]

00:08:27   like there are any Jews in Palm Springs [TS]

00:08:28   huh I mean he knows what kind of name it [TS]

00:08:30   is yeah uh but yeah just to kind of [TS]

00:08:33   funny at one time one time at Christmas [TS]

00:08:34   many years ago when I was in my 20s I [TS]

00:08:37   was at Christmas at a giant family [TS]

00:08:39   gathering [TS]

00:08:40   I was going through a little bit of a [TS]

00:08:42   phase and and I started holding court [TS]

00:08:45   and I've been on my family of course you [TS]

00:08:48   holding court isn't unusual stand there [TS]

00:08:52   you start talking a group of people [TS]

00:08:54   gathers pretty soon you're holding so [TS]

00:08:55   some people play cards huh it's wewe my [TS]

00:08:59   family traditions were stand around the [TS]

00:09:01   piano and sing and the four people that [TS]

00:09:05   could sing would carry the the twelve [TS]

00:09:08   people that couldn't sing but everybody [TS]

00:09:09   loved to sing stand around the piano and [TS]

00:09:12   saying we had a whole song book of [TS]

00:09:14   family songs but sit around and sing [TS]

00:09:16   well he songs from 1910 that was one [TS]

00:09:19   thing we all did always that family [TS]

00:09:21   gatherings but then you know various [TS]

00:09:23   people would hold court and and I you [TS]

00:09:27   know I was in my mid-20s oh I was just [TS]

00:09:28   really coming into my uh my type of [TS]

00:09:32   holding court the court years right now [TS]

00:09:34   it's you know it's the my number one [TS]

00:09:37   activity but then I was just I was brand [TS]

00:09:39   new and I said you know my theory is [TS]

00:09:42   that um you know that we're uh because [TS]

00:09:48   I'm talking to a group people the common [TS]

00:09:50   bond with whom are the rod Chester [TS]

00:09:53   family the Roderick's were kind of some [TS]

00:09:56   Welsh interlopers that got in there at [TS]

00:09:58   the last minute but the rochesters were [TS]

00:10:01   the you know that's the that's our [TS]

00:10:03   connection to all of our at least one of [TS]

00:10:06   my father's side all of the waspey [TS]

00:10:08   heritage and I said my theory is really [TS]

00:10:12   that this is an Ellis Island story that [TS]

00:10:14   our family really is an Ellis Island [TS]

00:10:16   story and changed our name from you know [TS]

00:10:19   from Rothstein to Rochester at Ellis [TS]

00:10:23   Island and then made up this enormous [TS]

00:10:26   backstory but really I feel much more [TS]

00:10:28   akin to the Jews than to Christians and [TS]

00:10:31   I really feel that that you know there [TS]

00:10:34   are sort of like our family nature just [TS]

00:10:37   suggests to me that we are that we're [TS]

00:10:40   probably much more likely Eastern [TS]

00:10:42   European Jews than we are whatever you [TS]

00:10:45   know Episcopalian you know may flee [TS]

00:10:49   Mayflower types that we that that [TS]

00:10:51   our family mythology has sort of laid [TS]

00:10:53   out for and I'm holding forth and you [TS]

00:10:58   know everybody under 50 who's listening [TS]

00:11:01   to me is listening to me with this kind [TS]

00:11:03   of like these pinched faces squinty eyes [TS]

00:11:07   trying to grasp what I'm saying but [TS]

00:11:09   everybody over 50 is emphatically like [TS]

00:11:12   no not the story that is not the story [TS]

00:11:17   at all and I had a I had an excellent [TS]

00:11:20   like 20 minutes onstage in my uncle's [TS]

00:11:23   living room parrying these 70 year olds [TS]

00:11:27   I was like well you know the thing about [TS]

00:11:29   an Ellis Island story is really unclear [TS]

00:11:31   you know you can never really know [TS]

00:11:33   mm-hmm they were like I usually isn't [TS]

00:11:35   know you're so wise you scam know and [TS]

00:11:40   you know there are a lot of family [TS]

00:11:42   bibles that have to know that are there [TS]

00:11:44   maybe maybe fill in the gaps but at 20 [TS]

00:11:48   we will do like illuminate the situation [TS]

00:11:51   by describing things like history and [TS]

00:11:53   philosophy and really ontology like how [TS]

00:11:56   we even know what we know epistemology [TS]

00:11:58   like were you able to like really lay [TS]

00:12:00   off them in a way cuz they're probably [TS]

00:12:01   not not as smart as you like you were a [TS]

00:12:03   probably to really bring bring bring [TS]

00:12:05   some sophistication to the discussion of [TS]

00:12:07   their lives I was really really in the [TS]

00:12:09   middle of being in college at the time a [TS]

00:12:14   lot of people when they're 24 years old [TS]

00:12:16   or no longer in college you know they're [TS]

00:12:19   already in the workforce you've gone pro [TS]

00:12:21   but I had decided that College was where [TS]

00:12:24   I was going to live for for the next 15 [TS]

00:12:27   years and so I really had some college [TS]

00:12:29   words and had read some college books [TS]

00:12:32   this was you know this was the heyday of [TS]

00:12:34   college Oh coach was huge and so if I [TS]

00:12:37   mean you I might be a little late here [TS]

00:12:39   we're a little bit separated but we're [TS]

00:12:40   talking about like everything was [TS]

00:12:42   postmodern you get the structuralism [TS]

00:12:44   like oh there are so many different [TS]

00:12:46   angles to explain how people older than [TS]

00:12:48   you don't get it mmm third-wave feminism [TS]

00:12:50   Oh enforcing it sister that was a big [TS]

00:12:53   deal right Camille Paglia was out there [TS]

00:12:55   not being issues she's saying she was up [TS]

00:12:57   wasn't a feminine [TS]

00:12:58   hmm that mom Kapow so it was a it was a [TS]

00:13:03   big time right all sex was great it was [TS]

00:13:05   uh doing as I and roots working yep [TS]

00:13:08   that's right that's right good good way [TS]

00:13:10   way to grab that reference yeah you got [TS]

00:13:12   auntie Dworkin yeah Camille palea now [TS]

00:13:14   who is the net Naomi Campbell no no my [TS]

00:13:18   weekend Naomi I gave me wats yeah I [TS]

00:13:22   she's the one who wrote that other [TS]

00:13:23   feminist book was popular in the early [TS]

00:13:25   nineties that's right and I think it's [TS]

00:13:26   always Camille palio was uh that [TS]

00:13:28   generations uh you know uh you know uh [TS]

00:13:31   dr. what's her name dr. what's her name [TS]

00:13:34   you know like she's just doing she's [TS]

00:13:35   everywhere I'm talking about dr. Joyce [TS]

00:13:37   brothers yeah that's unclear do you like [TS]

00:13:39   exactly what her profession was apart [TS]

00:13:41   from talking about what her profession [TS]

00:13:42   was she was trying to Charles Nelson [TS]

00:13:44   Reilly of that era and then I think you [TS]

00:13:46   pivot you get a Camille palea and she [TS]

00:13:48   would ya I'm she show up for a like a [TS]

00:13:49   you know Carlotta opening uh Camille [TS]

00:13:53   Paglia I think for two years there yeah [TS]

00:13:57   right didn't sleep she said she'd sleep [TS]

00:13:59   and she's dead that's right so we're [TS]

00:14:00   third way they call it because she was [TS]

00:14:03   everywhere well here's another question [TS]

00:14:06   what did it need a Bryant do lose her [TS]

00:14:08   job I need a Bryant was he was like an [TS]

00:14:10   orange juice flowers later she was [TS]

00:14:13   originally a singer from that era where [TS]

00:14:16   there were lots of ladies singer she was [TS]

00:14:17   she was kind of like a less talented [TS]

00:14:19   Rosemary Clooney I think Rosemary [TS]

00:14:21   Clooney from Cincinnati very good singer [TS]

00:14:24   yes not work today but Rosemary Clooney [TS]

00:14:26   was was a very good singer she was [TS]

00:14:28   George Clooney's amped that's right [TS]

00:14:30   that's right in and my parents were [TS]

00:14:32   friends with nick nick clooney mmhmm [TS]

00:14:35   yeah yep yeah what is nice lesser-known [TS]

00:14:36   oh cincinnati he was the ball or Clooney [TS]

00:14:38   everybody knew Nick clin because he had [TS]

00:14:40   TV show on the TV oh I thought you were [TS]

00:14:43   gonna say he was a pontiac dealer but he [TS]

00:14:44   had a he had a TV show nick clooney nick [TS]

00:14:47   clooney nicolino my grandfather worked [TS]

00:14:49   at a car dealership but that was an [TS]

00:14:50   older time in Cincinnati what I want to [TS]

00:14:52   get to you though is that you I think [TS]

00:14:53   the important thing here is being [TS]

00:14:56   somebody who is a professional college [TS]

00:14:57   student and he has had access to so many [TS]

00:15:00   new thought technologies you would be [TS]

00:15:02   doing you love your family nominally you [TS]

00:15:05   would be doing them a disservice not to [TS]

00:15:07   update them on what they think they [TS]

00:15:09   understand about life [TS]

00:15:10   p nation have leaving them in that in [TS]

00:15:12   that Rousseau Ian state like you need to [TS]

00:15:14   get in there and straighten them out the [TS]

00:15:16   number one thing i did was was explained [TS]

00:15:20   that if you clear cut the forests uh [TS]

00:15:22   where would the animals live right but [TS]

00:15:26   we throw something away where's a way [TS]

00:15:27   well no not bad because it was much more [TS]

00:15:31   specifically about clear-cutting for us [TS]

00:15:33   because of course my uncle uh the the [TS]

00:15:36   the self-same uncle i'll use it what [TS]

00:15:38   weyerhaeuser uh yeah he went at the time [TS]

00:15:41   he was president of macmillan bloedel [TS]

00:15:43   Canada's largest timberland Bledel so [TS]

00:15:45   you're going way beyond exotic hardwoods [TS]

00:15:47   here you're talking about is the whole [TS]

00:15:48   enterprise where yeah we're saying like [TS]

00:15:51   not only are we taking all the trees [TS]

00:15:53   down from Alaska to Seattle any any [TS]

00:15:57   anywhere along the Canadian Coast there [TS]

00:15:58   that you can't see from the road we're [TS]

00:16:01   gonna steal all the trees yet all but [TS]

00:16:04   also Brazil they were Barry pioneering [TS]

00:16:07   exotic hardwoods David and they do they [TS]

00:16:09   call clear-cutting yes clear-cutting is [TS]

00:16:12   what they would call it that was a [TS]

00:16:13   popular Christmas time conversation [TS]

00:16:16   topic to you get it it's when everybody [TS]

00:16:18   would sit down at the table and I would [TS]

00:16:19   go where are the animals gonna live boy [TS]

00:16:22   that was a nice that was that was just [TS]

00:16:24   uh you could hear the you could hear the [TS]

00:16:26   forks dropping on those lee i went [TS]

00:16:29   yesterday to the former where Howser [TS]

00:16:32   headquarters which when it was built in [TS]

00:16:35   the late 60s was like a pioneering [TS]

00:16:39   building like it was a it was [TS]

00:16:43   ecologically constructed it was open [TS]

00:16:46   plan it was built with the integrated [TS]

00:16:49   with the environment in order to be the [TS]

00:16:51   most pleasant possible workspace it was [TS]

00:16:54   really a pioneering building if you look [TS]

00:16:56   it up where Howser headquarters not the [TS]

00:16:58   new one but the old one you'll see that [TS]

00:17:00   it is a but it's a wonderful structure [TS]

00:17:03   and its iconic here in the northwest [TS]

00:17:05   because you can see it from the [TS]

00:17:07   interstate as you're driving south it's [TS]

00:17:09   out in the middle of nowhere you're [TS]

00:17:11   driving along all of a sudden there's [TS]

00:17:13   this gap in the trees and you see this [TS]

00:17:15   enormous building kind of out in the [TS]

00:17:18   distance its enormous wide [TS]

00:17:21   more than it is tall and you go what the [TS]

00:17:23   hell is that and then the then the gap [TS]

00:17:26   closes as you drive and you're like and [TS]

00:17:28   you never see it again and a lot of [TS]

00:17:30   people are have never never figured out [TS]

00:17:33   what it is but it was the warehouse or [TS]

00:17:35   building and it's surrounded by 500 [TS]

00:17:38   acres of like exotic rhododendrons it's [TS]

00:17:42   it said there's a bonsai museum out [TS]

00:17:45   there with Wow bonsai trees from there's [TS]

00:17:48   a bonsai bonsai tree that started [TS]

00:17:50   growing in 1500 uh and I and I went [TS]

00:17:55   there because we're house are just built [TS]

00:17:57   a brand new headquarters right in the [TS]

00:17:59   center of downtown Seattle in fact right [TS]

00:18:04   in the center of downtown Seattle where [TS]

00:18:05   they didn't tear down a single building [TS]

00:18:07   but they built it on top of some old [TS]

00:18:09   shitty parking lots so in that sense and [TS]

00:18:13   it's like right in pioneer square it's [TS]

00:18:15   totally changing what pioneer square [TS]

00:18:18   does this is some inside Seattle golf [TS]

00:18:22   but anyway this warehouse our building [TS]

00:18:24   is now completely empty absolutely not a [TS]

00:18:27   stick of furniture in it and its design [TS]

00:18:31   it was always designed to be looked [TS]

00:18:33   through right it's glass on both sides [TS]

00:18:34   so you can walk around it and just look [TS]

00:18:37   through the entire building five or six [TS]

00:18:39   storeys completely empty huh and it's a [TS]

00:18:43   real head trip I was I because it's a [TS]

00:18:46   you know it's a massive place the campus [TS]

00:18:50   of it and I really really I had two [TS]

00:18:52   thoughts one it's a for the next year or [TS]

00:18:55   so until they lease it again somebody [TS]

00:18:57   needs to use it as the set of a science [TS]

00:18:59   fiction film I can't believe that as it [TS]

00:19:01   wasn't why is it sitting there empty [TS]

00:19:02   what's up with that well I think this [TS]

00:19:05   year their headquarters are a federal [TS]

00:19:07   way washington yeah that's in federal [TS]

00:19:10   way washington that's right down there [TS]

00:19:13   by by tacoma okay i think what it is is [TS]

00:19:16   there are very few companies in the [TS]

00:19:18   world that can that really need a campus [TS]

00:19:23   with that much square footage uh-huh and [TS]

00:19:26   particularly one because the fashion [TS]

00:19:29   right now is for [TS]

00:19:30   urban campuses you want more of like an [TS]

00:19:32   artisanal pop-up paper company yeah you [TS]

00:19:35   want your company to be there so that so [TS]

00:19:37   you can attract all those hip young [TS]

00:19:39   engineers who want to unify in Portland [TS]

00:19:41   that part of town where all the paper [TS]

00:19:42   trucks go so I lunchtime you can go get [TS]

00:19:44   some paper from a truck yeah you know [TS]

00:19:46   what about it you get pulp you know you [TS]

00:19:49   get Lebanese paper you get thai paper [TS]

00:19:52   mm-hmm but so I think that eventually it [TS]

00:19:57   won't be long before some radical [TS]

00:20:00   startup type person decides that what he [TS]

00:20:05   or she wants to do is have their company [TS]

00:20:08   be out in the woods of federal way [TS]

00:20:11   living or working in like it's like a [TS]

00:20:13   space building mm-hmm right now that's [TS]

00:20:16   not what's happening right now companies [TS]

00:20:18   are buying old warehouses in in cool [TS]

00:20:20   part of town that's just that's just the [TS]

00:20:23   time it won't last I I wanted to start a [TS]

00:20:27   startup Merlin just just to have my [TS]

00:20:29   company work at that building I think I [TS]

00:20:32   think the building is the company right [TS]

00:20:35   the building's the start you know uh I'm [TS]

00:20:37   interested in this idea very interested [TS]

00:20:39   because frequently when you go to a [TS]

00:20:41   website nowadays used to be every site [TS]

00:20:45   you know would have about us and now [TS]

00:20:47   frequently you might see in about us but [TS]

00:20:49   frequently you'll see a section entitled [TS]

00:20:50   our story our store our story and so you [TS]

00:20:54   want to talk about how not just how [TS]

00:20:56   you're coming let's not be let's not be [TS]

00:20:58   mercantil about this you want to talk [TS]

00:21:00   about the life-changing event or [TS]

00:21:02   philosophical breakthrough or [TS]

00:21:03   problematic problem that you had to deal [TS]

00:21:06   with the cause you to need to make this [TS]

00:21:08   company right you know I'm saying it's [TS]

00:21:10   like oh you had to do it you had to do [TS]

00:21:12   it it's beyond a mission that's a [TS]

00:21:13   different section you go mission [TS]

00:21:14   statement that's a different section but [TS]

00:21:16   our story is where you talk about your [TS]

00:21:17   journey so yeah journey begins with [TS]

00:21:19   needing to fill a billing building up [TS]

00:21:20   with people see that's our story that's [TS]

00:21:23   your story what's our story i saw this [TS]

00:21:25   building i needed to fill it up maybe [TS]

00:21:27   that's the startup maybe the startup is [TS]

00:21:28   that we flee sweet you know what here's [TS]

00:21:31   the thing it's got a little bit of real [TS]

00:21:32   estate management it's got a little bit [TS]

00:21:34   of VC maybe your startup is I wouldn't [TS]

00:21:37   call it building fillers we're gonna [TS]

00:21:39   need a better name of that [TS]

00:21:40   basically your entire business is based [TS]

00:21:41   on funding businesses to fill in [TS]

00:21:43   existing places so you could for example [TS]

00:21:45   turn a bunch of old taco bell's and [TS]

00:21:48   pizza hut's into dentists offices hmm [TS]

00:21:51   but see that's the thing is you want to [TS]

00:21:53   go you go wide you want to go deep right [TS]

00:21:55   it could be a beautiful glass building [TS]

00:21:57   you know or it could be loco taco over [TS]

00:22:00   here that needs to be repurposed [TS]

00:22:01   actually the people that bought this [TS]

00:22:03   building that is their business they buy [TS]

00:22:06   old offices they buy big old offices and [TS]

00:22:09   turn them into offices Wow right wow [TS]

00:22:13   that's there the whole company is based [TS]

00:22:16   on buying old offices and turn them into [TS]

00:22:18   offices just do my mind and I read this [TS]

00:22:21   I read this article as I was trying to [TS]

00:22:23   research the place that I was and I was [TS]

00:22:24   like how do I get into that racket and [TS]

00:22:28   what what they do is they take other [TS]

00:22:30   people's money they buy big office [TS]

00:22:34   complexes and then they turn them into [TS]

00:22:36   offices and then they slay wrentham or [TS]

00:22:39   sell them for money they pay the other [TS]

00:22:41   people the people that there's money [TS]

00:22:43   they use they I guess they pay them back [TS]

00:22:45   somehow and then whatever money is left [TS]

00:22:47   over is their money that's their [TS]

00:22:49   business I don't know about the paying [TS]

00:22:50   the money back part let's wait for that [TS]

00:22:52   we don't get you like to see on shark [TS]

00:22:53   tank we're pre-revenue right now but I'm [TS]

00:22:55   very intrigued in the idea of a company [TS]

00:22:57   it's a it's a real lean startup where [TS]

00:23:00   the idea is the very first thing is we [TS]

00:23:01   need to get us into a building and once [TS]

00:23:03   we get into a building we bring in you [TS]

00:23:05   i'm gonna call them building affiliates [TS]

00:23:06   and now those people going to go out and [TS]

00:23:08   find other they're going to start [TS]

00:23:10   they're going to need to get into [TS]

00:23:11   buildings right to create more [TS]

00:23:13   opportunities to help people get it's [TS]

00:23:15   not it's not a pyramid scheme it's more [TS]

00:23:19   of an inverted triangle unless we can [TS]

00:23:21   get an actual pyramid as part of this [TS]

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00:25:21   mean think about it k those buildings [TS]

00:25:24   are empty game changed okay right that's [TS]

00:25:27   literally it you know what I'm like a [TS]

00:25:30   lie to you it's not a scheme it's a [TS]

00:25:32   pyramid program that's right it's a [TS]

00:25:34   pyramid we have we find empty or disused [TS]

00:25:37   pyramids we renovate them and then you [TS]

00:25:40   fill that up and then you now you build [TS]

00:25:41   up your they call it your downline [TS]

00:25:42   you're going to go now and get other [TS]

00:25:44   people into future pyramids so steering [TS]

00:25:47   instance here's a person there they [TS]

00:25:50   started let's say they started a [TS]

00:25:52   snapchat and they're thinking oh I want [TS]

00:25:56   to have my office headquartered in in [TS]

00:25:58   Venice California you say nun and have [TS]

00:26:01   you considered the Yucatan have you [TS]

00:26:03   considered the Yucatan I can put you [TS]

00:26:05   into a whole complex [TS]

00:26:07   business park basically with of pyramids [TS]

00:26:11   and it'll be very cost competitive very [TS]

00:26:15   competitive with what you would pay in [TS]

00:26:16   business I think that's how you start [TS]

00:26:19   that's how you start generating some [TS]

00:26:21   cash flow or at least interest you're [TS]

00:26:23   generating you're generating some some [TS]

00:26:25   interest cuz first you need to tickle [TS]

00:26:26   their buying bone don't you think you [TS]

00:26:27   got to get them are you can go to a [TS]

00:26:29   pivot right you got to get them out of [TS]

00:26:30   their current mindset and you get a [TS]

00:26:33   little pivot you can thinking about [TS]

00:26:34   pyramids well sure and you think like oh [TS]

00:26:36   you're trying to attract some young [TS]

00:26:37   software engineers who just got out of [TS]

00:26:39   college and you're saying I'll live on [TS]

00:26:41   Venice Beach you know there's a Nathan's [TS]

00:26:43   Famous hotdog stand or whatever you can [TS]

00:26:45   write cycle back and forth worth or move [TS]

00:26:49   to move to the Yucatan Peninsula and [TS]

00:26:51   live in a historic campus surrounded by [TS]

00:26:54   like low jungle there are some sin otays [TS]

00:26:59   mmm we can scuba dive all the way to the [TS]

00:27:02   seventh level of hell oh that is plano [TS]

00:27:04   right there are gigantic lizards and you [TS]

00:27:08   never have to see your parents again [TS]

00:27:10   John that is so much more interesting [TS]

00:27:12   than like playing frisbee polo and [TS]

00:27:14   venice beach with all due respect let's [TS]

00:27:16   see I'm just you know so we're we we [TS]

00:27:18   turned that we turn that property right [TS]

00:27:20   we go around the world think of all the [TS]

00:27:22   pyramids there are 0 look on my works ye [TS]

00:27:24   mighty and despair what it's gonna take [TS]

00:27:26   for me to get you on this pyramid today [TS]

00:27:27   and almost every pyramid I can guarantee [TS]

00:27:30   you is empty right now well you know [TS]

00:27:32   it's this is the thing this is there's [TS]

00:27:34   so many angles to this first of all [TS]

00:27:35   every one of these dingaling CEOs wants [TS]

00:27:38   to eventually become I mean you know [TS]

00:27:39   we're looking today at Elon Musk we're [TS]

00:27:40   looking at a looking at a musk we're [TS]

00:27:42   looking at the suckers burg you look at [TS]

00:27:44   any of these guys are obviously all [TS]

00:27:45   modeling themselves on previous [TS]

00:27:47   generations of CEOs and supervillains [TS]

00:27:49   there's a question about that and so now [TS]

00:27:50   we look at that he's going to space did [TS]

00:27:53   it but but they all kind of want to be [TS]

00:27:55   the kind of want to be David Branson [TS]

00:27:57   they kind of want to be Blofeld and like [TS]

00:27:59   you say to them look it's a pyramid it's [TS]

00:28:01   pyramid you're gonna have to fill this [TS]

00:28:03   with all kinds of stuff or you know what [TS]

00:28:04   you fill it with nothing you or maybe [TS]

00:28:06   you put more pyramids inside what's your [TS]

00:28:08   I like the affiliate what's your on your [TS]

00:28:09   own affiliate downline you decide how to [TS]

00:28:11   run that operation fill it with nothing [TS]

00:28:13   oh oh oh my gosh free shipping on amazon [TS]

00:28:18   prime nothing i'm i see myself now [TS]

00:28:21   or you and I I'm sorry because we just [TS]

00:28:24   found it this business together but [TS]

00:28:25   we're we are gonna feeling I'm gonna be [TS]

00:28:27   the ender Garfield character I guess [TS]

00:28:28   thought I'm gonna get pushed out I mean [TS]

00:28:30   vinkel Winklevoss us yeah you might be a [TS]

00:28:34   Winklevoss you know the winklevosses and [TS]

00:28:35   the and the Garfield they got paid [TS]

00:28:37   pretty well is that right yeah I think [TS]

00:28:39   so I mean not you know maybe they didn't [TS]

00:28:41   make this yoga in that movie but don't [TS]

00:28:43   know who it is it's um it's the guy from [TS]

00:28:46   that boy band it's not Jonah Hill it's [TS]

00:28:48   uh it's just just in just 24 wiseman [TS]

00:28:51   justin bieber flee yeah justin bieber [TS]

00:28:53   flake that's the one uh he's in that [TS]

00:28:56   movie that's right and he's the guy that [TS]

00:28:57   founded Napster and now he's the one who [TS]

00:28:59   ruined your career John last night no [TS]

00:29:02   two nights ago I was at a party and a [TS]

00:29:05   guy oh I'm sorry I lady comes over to me [TS]

00:29:09   sits down next so anyway I show up to [TS]

00:29:11   this party I haven't I didn't it's a [TS]

00:29:13   party where you pay some money for the [TS]

00:29:15   ticket and you come and you get a steak [TS]

00:29:16   dinner oh and uh and a friend of mine [TS]

00:29:20   was going to the party and said you got [TS]

00:29:22   to come to the party and I was like yeah [TS]

00:29:24   I did I didn't want to go to the party I [TS]

00:29:25   didn't want to buy a ticket I didn't [TS]

00:29:26   want to go is the thing and then the [TS]

00:29:28   last minute I said all right I'll go to [TS]

00:29:30   the party and my friend said well you [TS]

00:29:33   don't have ticket I was like don't you [TS]

00:29:34   let me handle that so we get to the [TS]

00:29:39   party and I you know and my friend has [TS]

00:29:42   an assigned seat right it's assigned [TS]

00:29:43   seating at these teas round tables table [TS]

00:29:46   number for table number five etc etc [TS]

00:29:47   this is so confusing i'm sorry it's a [TS]

00:29:49   charity event it's a charity event okay [TS]

00:29:51   all right we say party i'm thinking yeah [TS]

00:29:53   okay well let's say you know it's a the [TS]

00:29:55   thing is all these auctions nowadays [TS]

00:29:57   they present themselves as parties right [TS]

00:29:58   sugar dancing it's like it's fun there's [TS]

00:30:02   a silent auction your water an auction [TS]

00:30:04   and parties clothing you know I hate [TS]

00:30:05   these things yeah I hate them because [TS]

00:30:08   ninety nine percent of the things I [TS]

00:30:10   don't want right I don't want a basket [TS]

00:30:11   of wine I don't wanna I don't want a [TS]

00:30:14   bath stick of cheese I don't want any [TS]

00:30:17   kind of astok I don't want to I don't [TS]

00:30:21   want to bid 2,500 dollars on like a ride [TS]

00:30:24   around the lake on somebody's boat you [TS]

00:30:26   know I don't want any [TS]

00:30:26   we we had the school auction this [TS]

00:30:28   weekend and you know he looked it's a [TS]

00:30:30   company store it's the company store [TS]

00:30:32   right so my wife my wife she led the [TS]

00:30:35   production of her of our my daughter's [TS]

00:30:37   classrooms project to sell at the [TS]

00:30:39   auction so she basically yeah so here's [TS]

00:30:41   the thing she basically paid for and [TS]

00:30:44   helped create the piece of art she [TS]

00:30:46   worked at the auction Saturday night and [TS]

00:30:48   do you want to make any guesses about [TS]

00:30:49   who bought the art mmm let's see was it [TS]

00:30:54   your what she should be working in the [TS]

00:30:57   development team for pyramids pyramids [TS]

00:30:59   pyramids were calling it my mom you said [TS]

00:31:02   she gets the recursive nature of this [TS]

00:31:04   about the about those bake sales and [TS]

00:31:06   stuff you know like in this case you [TS]

00:31:08   gotta go to this party and like you know [TS]

00:31:09   what can I just how about instead I give [TS]

00:31:11   you two hundred dollars not at home that [TS]

00:31:13   was always always what my mom said ship [TS]

00:31:15   because they used to pay for this stuff [TS]

00:31:16   with bake sales there weren't auctions [TS]

00:31:18   when we were kids right there were bake [TS]

00:31:19   sales every every well let's be honest [TS]

00:31:22   every mom would make a casserole or a [TS]

00:31:24   cake or a pie yeah and then they set up [TS]

00:31:27   tables in the gym and and the pies and [TS]

00:31:30   cakes would be all around and they need [TS]

00:31:31   well I guess walk around and what just [TS]

00:31:34   buy them or was there bidding I don't [TS]

00:31:35   remember what I got some cases you can [TS]

00:31:37   have like a bass dick lunch and if you [TS]

00:31:40   want to impress the lady I learned this [TS]

00:31:41   on Gilmore Girls if you want to get [TS]

00:31:42   somebody's particular Bostick then you [TS]

00:31:44   bid on them and that by proxy proxy [TS]

00:31:46   becomes your affection for them oh it's [TS]

00:31:49   like The Bachelor auction at in [TS]

00:31:51   Groundhog Day yeah same thing yeah my [TS]

00:31:53   mom would always say I don't want to [TS]

00:31:54   make a cake I don't want to make a pie I [TS]

00:31:56   don't want to go to this thing can I [TS]

00:31:57   just give you two hundred dollars and [TS]

00:31:59   they were like ah you don't you just [TS]

00:32:01   don't understand this is like a you know [TS]

00:32:04   it's fun it should be fun yeah I'm doing [TS]

00:32:06   I'm doing a fun run do you want to fund [TS]

00:32:08   me and I can I just give you twenty [TS]

00:32:10   dollars and we stop talking yeah like I [TS]

00:32:12   don't want I don't want to say anything [TS]

00:32:13   I don't want to get emails about this I [TS]

00:32:14   don't want to be put on a list that's [TS]

00:32:16   the thing John you sign up for any of [TS]

00:32:17   these things you get put on a list well [TS]

00:32:19   I'm already on those lists I'm on those [TS]

00:32:21   lists well tell you what tell you I I [TS]

00:32:22   don't know I thing is I'm probably be [TS]

00:32:24   pushed out maybe by the end of this [TS]

00:32:25   program but I'm here to tell you [TS]

00:32:26   pyramids pyramids pyramids will never [TS]

00:32:28   contact you without your express [TS]

00:32:30   permission well I mean you nothing less [TS]

00:32:34   we have to pivot we have to pivot to [TS]

00:32:35   wash if you want to unsubscribe it's [TS]

00:32:37   right down there at the bottom where [TS]

00:32:40   unsubscribe it says adjust your [TS]

00:32:42   preferences you can adjust adjust your [TS]

00:32:44   privacy preferences and then somewhere [TS]

00:32:47   in there if you click on that you're [TS]

00:32:49   going to find somewhere an opportunity [TS]

00:32:51   to unsubscribe where when you click on [TS]

00:32:53   it it's going to say are you sure you [TS]

00:32:55   want to unsubscribe have you really [TS]

00:32:56   consider really serious and here's the [TS]

00:32:58   other thing pyramids pyramids pyramids [TS]

00:32:59   way too long what if we shorten to that [TS]

00:33:01   to your rate for this pyramids cubed oh [TS]

00:33:02   whoa how are we gonna spell pyramids [TS]

00:33:06   that's the big question we're gonna have [TS]

00:33:07   to spell it funny I think we have to [TS]

00:33:09   remove okay well let me type but I'm [TS]

00:33:10   running with tomorrow some vowels uh-huh [TS]

00:33:12   pyramids in this case is why vowel I [TS]

00:33:15   mean this is one of those instances [TS]

00:33:17   AEIOU and sometimes why that's why I [TS]

00:33:19   think this is a sometime situation r.a.m [TS]

00:33:23   Franz right Oh pyramids p ee r 0 period [TS]

00:33:39   pwa are am I d z mmhmm yeah and I have [TS]

00:33:46   to I have to write that out time you [TS]

00:33:48   tell guess i'll text to you ok it's [TS]

00:33:50   here's what I've got so far we're just [TS]

00:33:52   workshopping this p e e r am ID and i'm [TS]

00:33:58   going with z cuz i think that's gonna be [TS]

00:34:01   easier it's gonna be easier to copyright [TS]

00:34:03   go and i'll go ahead I feel like what I [TS]

00:34:04   feel like the Z makes it seem like it [TS]

00:34:06   like an Australian children's band this [TS]

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00:34:54   I want to recommend a book this week I [TS]

00:34:56   think is right up the Roderick on the [TS]

00:34:58   line Allie it's a book called blitzed [TS]

00:34:59   colon drugs in Nazi Germany because [TS]

00:35:03   written by Norman older and it's [TS]

00:35:05   narrated by Jonathan Keeble and this is [TS]

00:35:08   a fascinating exploration of the use and [TS]

00:35:10   abuse of drugs throughout the Third [TS]

00:35:12   Reich especially during the execution of [TS]

00:35:15   its rather ambitious World War two [TS]

00:35:16   efforts while French soldiers were being [TS]

00:35:19   rationed red wine German troops were [TS]

00:35:21   marching east and west on daily doses of [TS]

00:35:23   crystal meth meanwhile the country's [TS]

00:35:25   colorful dictator employed a personal [TS]

00:35:27   doctor who administered everything from [TS]

00:35:29   vitamin shots to animal hormone [TS]

00:35:31   injections to cocaine culminating in the [TS]

00:35:34   Fuehrer's physical dependence to wait [TS]

00:35:36   for it oxy oxy you guys wow such [TS]

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00:36:52   the great shows right what I want here's [TS]

00:36:56   Eddie yeah no no I hear ya I hear ya I [TS]

00:37:02   think there should be a why I think it [TS]

00:37:04   should be P my DZ nopee [TS]

00:37:08   ye are my D s p/e are why no my dear [TS]

00:37:17   pyramids do you have an a in there no [TS]

00:37:21   way just pyramids d ee are my D Z not [TS]

00:37:29   Zee I feel like the Z Zed Zed is a biz [TS]

00:37:32   in Australia too far pyramids can we [TS]

00:37:35   capitalize the ant ah okay all right I [TS]

00:37:39   Capital idea p ER capital m why do yes [TS]

00:37:44   pyramids hey like a website you would [TS]

00:37:51   have to log into with you we're going to [TS]

00:37:53   see an oncologist think it's true this [TS]

00:37:56   is your Dutch cancer doctor kids dr. [TS]

00:38:02   Pierre mins they're worse on a lot of [TS]

00:38:04   levels so you know we don't know any way [TS]

00:38:06   so I went to this dinner oh yeah and I [TS]

00:38:09   leaned up again so I get there and my [TS]

00:38:11   friends like well I'm sitting at table [TS]

00:38:13   for what are you gonna do and I was like [TS]

00:38:14   do you know let me let me worry about [TS]

00:38:16   that you go sit you have your steak [TS]

00:38:18   dinner on let's go remote you got your [TS]

00:38:20   way in yet have you gone mad I'm in [TS]

00:38:22   because you know they can't it's an open [TS]

00:38:24   you go to a check-in desk when you walk [TS]

00:38:26   in but that's honor system stone right [TS]

00:38:29   and the thing is i see i see the thing [TS]

00:38:33   about this is that i donated an electric [TS]

00:38:36   guitar to this auction I'm not an [TS]

00:38:39   expensive electric guitar in fact an [TS]

00:38:40   electric guitar that is it was a [TS]

00:38:45   signature model of a certain kind of [TS]

00:38:47   artist and actually signed by that [TS]

00:38:50   artist an artist you may remember by the [TS]

00:38:53   name of Matthew sweet Matthew Sweet is [TS]

00:38:56   is it one of those double cutaways [TS]

00:38:57   that's a double cutaway guitar yes yes [TS]

00:39:00   somewhat suspect it's a special model [TS]

00:39:03   specify your relationship with the [TS]

00:39:04   Gibson company John as my relationship [TS]

00:39:07   with a guitar company not the Gibson [TS]

00:39:09   company [TS]

00:39:10   we made a matthew sweet signature model [TS]

00:39:14   guitar signed signed on the in the [TS]

00:39:16   sticker on the inside the factory want [TS]

00:39:19   nothing more than to make you your dream [TS]

00:39:21   guitar that's all they do all day long [TS]

00:39:23   is want to make your dream guitar but [TS]

00:39:24   you can't make your dream guitar there's [TS]

00:39:26   no ski they don't ask you for it they [TS]

00:39:27   don't have asked you for it I've got [TS]

00:39:28   down there I've been there I've walked [TS]

00:39:31   around I've asked them interesting [TS]

00:39:32   questions about think about that story [TS]

00:39:34   and it still breaks my heart to think [TS]

00:39:35   about it yeah they're in there still [TS]

00:39:36   probably smoking those cigarettes down [TS]

00:39:38   to their knuckles and making guitars [TS]

00:39:39   it's not like it's not like they don't [TS]

00:39:41   want to do it they want to do that [TS]

00:39:43   they're luthiers as for us is right [TS]

00:39:44   there there Martin Luther's they wanted [TS]

00:39:46   they want to make you a guitar they do [TS]

00:39:48   they want to make this guitar for me I [TS]

00:39:49   make or not because there's not as cute [TS]

00:39:51   yes q that's not how it wasn't a 50 60 [TS]

00:39:54   70 s 80s 90s sorry Scotty Moore can't [TS]

00:39:57   make you a guitar we don't have asked [TS]

00:39:58   you yeah that's how it is now sickening [TS]

00:40:01   in any case I leaned up against the wall [TS]

00:40:03   in the back of the room uh with the [TS]

00:40:06   waiters right the waiters are up against [TS]

00:40:09   the wall they're watching they're you [TS]

00:40:10   know they're getting ready to serve [TS]

00:40:11   salad course I start chit chattin with [TS]

00:40:15   some waiters hey what's up how's it [TS]

00:40:17   going you know oh good good yeah sweet a [TS]

00:40:19   nice night right no this is hobbin [TS]

00:40:21   beside lived my whole life chit chattin [TS]

00:40:22   with the waiters there that that's my [TS]

00:40:24   friend class right my friend class is [TS]

00:40:26   not the donor class it's the way to [TS]

00:40:28   class mmm then the woman who is putting [TS]

00:40:31   on the event walked by she doesn't [TS]

00:40:35   really walk by so much as she glides by [TS]

00:40:37   and she sees me standing there talking [TS]

00:40:39   the waiters and she stops and she goes [TS]

00:40:40   John hello nice suit because of course [TS]

00:40:43   you know this is how you get in right [TS]

00:40:44   you kind of know somebody I say I'm good [TS]

00:40:47   I'm good how are you good we talk we [TS]

00:40:50   chat she says thank you for the guitar I [TS]

00:40:52   go anytime listen I want to fund this [TS]

00:40:55   program as much as you do and then she [TS]

00:40:58   says by way of ending the conversation [TS]

00:41:00   because she's headed off on an important [TS]

00:41:03   mission huh she she know she kind of [TS]

00:41:06   puts one hand in the small of my back as [TS]

00:41:07   though to guide me to my table and she [TS]

00:41:10   says where you see where you sit let me [TS]

00:41:13   let me walk you over I don't think she I [TS]

00:41:15   think you know she's a maven right she [TS]

00:41:18   wants to walk me over because she wants [TS]

00:41:19   to see who else is sitting at the table [TS]

00:41:21   so she can you know make introductions [TS]

00:41:23   she sometimes about the connections in [TS]

00:41:25   the networking and the people that's [TS]

00:41:27   right and so she doesn't want to just [TS]

00:41:29   say why don't you get to your table oh [TS]

00:41:30   I'll be right there or you know I have [TS]

00:41:34   other business to do she wants to walk [TS]

00:41:36   me to the table and say oh you know [TS]

00:41:38   Maisie Glotz do you know John Roderick [TS]

00:41:41   you're sitting in the same table and [TS]

00:41:42   then I go oh hello Maisie of course I [TS]

00:41:45   know amazing yep it's it's own fun or [TS]

00:41:47   just keep kids take it back to that same [TS]

00:41:49   crook listen that's right at you know [TS]

00:41:52   Muhammad magnet so and you know and then [TS]

00:41:58   I then then it would be an opportunity [TS]

00:41:59   for me to say oh I know they go way back [TS]

00:42:01   with a glass all the glass I know like [TS]

00:42:03   wants us to so I say um I don't have a [TS]

00:42:07   table you know I just kind of I just [TS]

00:42:09   kind of waltzed in here honestly I [TS]

00:42:10   didn't expect to come i was just waltz [TS]

00:42:12   in it and and this is the thing but when [TS]

00:42:16   we talk about when we talk about [TS]

00:42:17   unchecked privileged boy it's really a [TS]

00:42:20   thing and then there's the kind of [TS]

00:42:22   privilege that you're very aware of and [TS]

00:42:23   just have no interest in checking and [TS]

00:42:26   then there are the and then there's the [TS]

00:42:28   kind of privilege where you just donated [TS]

00:42:29   a guitar to an auction yeah and she says [TS]

00:42:32   oh let's find your table and so she [TS]

00:42:35   waltzes me over oh so she but she's so [TS]

00:42:37   she's not put off by this not not even [TS]

00:42:41   you know she's she's the consummate [TS]

00:42:42   hostess right chef link and I of course [TS]

00:42:45   you came without having done anything of [TS]

00:42:48   course you decided to come here four [TS]

00:42:49   minutes ago and just decided to come it [TS]

00:42:52   was not was not inhibited at all by not [TS]

00:42:55   having a ticket but but just came right [TS]

00:42:58   so she won but she's the she's the big [TS]

00:43:01   wheel right so she starts looking around [TS]

00:43:03   the room and she goes hah there's a [TS]

00:43:05   table over there with an open seat and [TS]

00:43:06   she walks me over and of course she [TS]

00:43:09   knows everybody at the table you know [TS]

00:43:10   them you know the so and so's in the [TS]

00:43:12   zone zones and she sits me down and next [TS]

00:43:15   to a guy and it turns out he's the CFO [TS]

00:43:17   of Napster hmm what and I said no he was [TS]

00:43:24   the CFO of Napster know so he so I sit [TS]

00:43:27   down on it and this is this is our [TS]

00:43:29   introduced and he goes hey and I say [TS]

00:43:31   Napster is the thing and he goes yeah [TS]

00:43:33   Napster has been purchased by [TS]

00:43:37   absa d and I think it's well so it still [TS]

00:43:45   exists in some form okay and uh and so [TS]

00:43:50   all of a sudden I go from leaning [TS]

00:43:53   against the wall with the waiters to [TS]

00:43:54   talking about how Napster ruin the music [TS]

00:43:58   business but of course he probably get [TS]

00:44:01   that much know what the thing is that he [TS]

00:44:04   is you know he's come into it yeah i [TS]

00:44:07   mean the the the music industry had [TS]

00:44:09   already been ruined two more times after [TS]

00:44:10   that probably by the time he came in i'm [TS]

00:44:12   sure that's a fundamentally different [TS]

00:44:13   content provider than Napster was well [TS]

00:44:15   sure and you know and at the time he was [TS]

00:44:18   in a different line of work uh-huh right [TS]

00:44:20   he did he's not him he's not a music [TS]

00:44:21   person he's a financial person sure he [TS]

00:44:25   was you know he was working for [TS]

00:44:26   macmillan bloedel and now he doesn't now [TS]

00:44:30   there's no institutional memory of when [TS]

00:44:32   Napster ruined the music business now [TS]

00:44:34   everybody's streaming we're all [TS]

00:44:36   streaming mm-hmm telephony streaming [TS]

00:44:39   mm-hmm that's right and so so and the [TS]

00:44:42   streaming people feel like they're doing [TS]

00:44:43   musicians a great service mm-hmm so so [TS]

00:44:48   he was excited to talk about he was [TS]

00:44:50   excited to talk about all the things [TS]

00:44:51   that he wasn't going to do specifically [TS]

00:44:54   for me but what he was doing generally [TS]

00:44:56   for free free kind yeah for the world of [TS]

00:45:00   music yeah so it was very you know it [TS]

00:45:02   was like talk about talk about pop music [TS]

00:45:05   mm-hmm gosh yeah New York London Paris [TS]

00:45:07   Munich New York London Paris Munich [TS]

00:45:12   those are going to be the headquarters [TS]

00:45:14   of up pyramids yeah we're not actually [TS]

00:45:17   going to be in pyramid we're not our [TS]

00:45:19   offices aren't going to be pyramids I [TS]

00:45:21   wonder how that'll work out pyramids uh [TS]

00:45:24   which let that bring something up when [TS]

00:45:26   you search it oh you know I'm letting [TS]

00:45:29   you know I probably should look I should [TS]

00:45:31   look now it just says are you talking [TS]

00:45:35   about are you talking about pyramids and [TS]

00:45:37   it spelled it correctly oh good that's a [TS]

00:45:39   good sign well it suggests to me that [TS]

00:45:41   someone else has ever put in that [TS]

00:45:44   spelling is exactly okay I shouldn't [TS]

00:45:46   even admit this but i found exactly 1 [TS]

00:45:49   match [TS]

00:45:50   which is a site called name ideas [TS]

00:45:53   generator no and that's if you enter in [TS]

00:45:57   the letters my D s yeah but the thing is [TS]

00:46:00   you know it's like mailing the song to [TS]

00:46:02   yourself I think I think as long as we [TS]

00:46:04   build a pyramid or inhabit a pyramid [TS]

00:46:06   somewhere I think we're gonna I think we [TS]

00:46:09   get the first right of refusal it's [TS]

00:46:11   called women do you mail for yourself i [TS]

00:46:13   used to read i read that i read that's [TS]

00:46:16   as good as copyright i'm not sure how [TS]

00:46:18   that holds up in court so you would put [TS]

00:46:20   it in a cassette tape and mail it to [TS]

00:46:21   yourself no web number oh no we're [TS]

00:46:23   talking about no no so what I heard was [TS]

00:46:25   when you write us when you write a song [TS]

00:46:27   because this too yes you should type it [TS]

00:46:30   up this makes absolutely no sense just [TS]

00:46:33   to think about it for even a second so [TS]

00:46:34   what do you do the idea is uh if you [TS]

00:46:36   don't copyright you know it's a thing [TS]

00:46:38   you got to copyright your song your song [TS]

00:46:39   about you know how terrible palm beaches [TS]

00:46:42   or whatever like my terrible punk rock [TS]

00:46:44   songs so you mail it to yourself yeah [TS]

00:46:46   and if you ever have to defend just on a [TS]

00:46:48   piece of paper oh sure cuz then now you [TS]

00:46:50   got the you got the date on there yeah [TS]

00:46:52   so I guess the problem did the one [TS]

00:46:54   problem with this is you only get one [TS]

00:46:56   opportunity to take that out of the [TS]

00:46:57   envelope you and I are not copyright [TS]

00:47:00   lawyers I know we should probably say [TS]

00:47:02   that we are we are pyramid preneur yeah [TS]

00:47:05   that's right Kermit preneur but you're [TS]

00:47:06   saying only one chance to take it out of [TS]

00:47:08   the envelope well this is like the same [TS]

00:47:11   this is the same era and crowd from [TS]

00:47:14   which I heard that if you walk around [TS]

00:47:16   with weed in your shoe it turns into [TS]

00:47:17   hash so well we asked if you ask a cop [TS]

00:47:21   if he's a copies got to say yes that's [TS]

00:47:23   right show me your dick let me smell [TS]

00:47:24   your dick take it out you gotta you [TS]

00:47:28   everybody knows that this is all you [TS]

00:47:29   know this is you know what this is John [TS]

00:47:31   this is stuff you learn on the streets [TS]

00:47:32   well sure if you ever saw the movie [TS]

00:47:34   training day mm-hmm you know you've got [TS]

00:47:36   a smoke a little piece EP with your [TS]

00:47:38   partner yeah because what if you know [TS]

00:47:41   what if you're with some bad guy and he [TS]

00:47:42   says watch take a hit of this PCP yeah [TS]

00:47:45   not what he's expecting no you gotta [TS]

00:47:46   know how to you gotta know how to hit [TS]

00:47:48   PCP if you really expect yes we'll [TS]

00:47:51   expect to be taken seriously by the back [TS]

00:47:53   and then when to walk away know when to [TS]

00:47:54   run yeah I totally agree so so you're [TS]

00:47:58   saying because I heard this to about the [TS]

00:48:00   copywriting the the song and I never did [TS]

00:48:03   but it's not that I didn't it's not that [TS]

00:48:07   I didn't do it because I didn't believe [TS]

00:48:08   that it would work hey John hang on a [TS]

00:48:10   minute oh you might just down your mic [TS]

00:48:12   just changed did it change in a good way [TS]

00:48:15   or a bad way bad way you feel like [TS]

00:48:17   you're talking into your computer [TS]

00:48:19   directly Oh what about now oh you sound [TS]

00:48:21   fantastic oh thank you the bed fun when [TS]

00:48:23   that Evans so did you gesture wildly um [TS]

00:48:27   you know what i did i have i have a [TS]

00:48:30   couple of like rabbit ear antennas here [TS]

00:48:33   on the top of my computer okay sometimes [TS]

00:48:35   you have to hit the computer on the side [TS]

00:48:36   real hard and then adjust the rabbit [TS]

00:48:38   ears i get a sit on it ok so anyway [TS]

00:48:45   pyramids Oh call you see so you send it [TS]

00:48:49   to yourself now now if you're that [TS]

00:48:51   concerned about copyright it seems like [TS]

00:48:52   you might want explore it more but that [TS]

00:48:53   was the word on the street you gotta [TS]

00:48:55   smell a cop's dick and you mail the song [TS]

00:48:57   to yourself ironclad and somebody guys [TS]

00:49:01   redid that he'd be alive today if Woody [TS]

00:49:03   Guthrie had done that he'd be alive [TS]

00:49:05   today you know I say that at least once [TS]

00:49:06   a day no all the time I'm saying that [TS]

00:49:08   but uh if I so i actually have [TS]

00:49:11   copyrighted music and i actually hired a [TS]

00:49:14   copyright lawyer i think i may have [TS]

00:49:16   described this to you before where I [TS]

00:49:17   copyrighted the name of the long winters [TS]

00:49:19   because when you had to deal with the [TS]

00:49:21   wild ruses the Wilders is but it was [TS]

00:49:23   because there was a band that was [TS]

00:49:25   calling themselves a long winter uh-huh [TS]

00:49:28   like they put out a record or to [TS]

00:49:30   immediately after the long winters came [TS]

00:49:32   along there was no debate that the long [TS]

00:49:34   winters were the long winters before a [TS]

00:49:36   long winter was a long winter but [TS]

00:49:38   somehow can you imagine being somebody [TS]

00:49:40   who's like well there is a band called [TS]

00:49:42   the long winters but we're a long winter [TS]

00:49:43   you said I get that in the late 60s for [TS]

00:49:47   two reasons because the world was [TS]

00:49:48   smaller for one thing you could get away [TS]

00:49:50   with with calling your band you know the [TS]

00:49:53   beat 'less or something like that or [TS]

00:49:55   even the Beatles like not even at the [TS]

00:49:56   Beatles but you could get away with a [TS]

00:49:57   lot because the world was smaller but [TS]

00:49:59   second like you know just google it like [TS]

00:50:00   we just did Yeah right you know i mean [TS]

00:50:02   like that's just weird even in altavista [TS]

00:50:04   you could altavista a long winter yeah [TS]

00:50:07   you could use wolfram alpha wolframalpha [TS]

00:50:10   yeah uh yeah but or you could call [TS]

00:50:12   yourselves a long winter UK oh right you [TS]

00:50:16   don't [TS]

00:50:17   put out a record called a long winter no [TS]

00:50:19   so anyway I had to go to this copyright [TS]

00:50:21   lawyer and then what I discovered about [TS]

00:50:23   a copyright lawyer is talk about a [TS]

00:50:25   pyramid scheme lawyers I don't know if [TS]

00:50:27   you knew this yeah this is something [TS]

00:50:29   that I've learned by in dealing with [TS]

00:50:30   this copyright lawyer if a lawyer's [TS]

00:50:33   office wants to send you an email they [TS]

00:50:37   type the email as we discuss this good [TS]

00:50:40   they type the email yeah did they have a [TS]

00:50:43   way they like to Bill an invoice yeah [TS]

00:50:45   they type the email and as they begin to [TS]

00:50:48   type the email the clock is ticking they [TS]

00:50:51   are charging you for the expense of [TS]

00:50:54   typing the email telling you that they [TS]

00:50:57   have an opportunity for you to pay them [TS]

00:50:59   some money yeah like they're billing you [TS]

00:51:02   and they're charging you for billing you [TS]

00:51:04   and it feels to me like that is the most [TS]

00:51:07   genius business model that's the most [TS]

00:51:09   genius business model of all what for [TS]

00:51:11   you 19 for me to build somebody for the [TS]

00:51:15   for the expense of the time it takes to [TS]

00:51:17   build them date you know what this [TS]

00:51:20   should be part of pyramids I think so [TS]

00:51:22   too I think recursion should be a huge [TS]

00:51:24   part of our recursion I think so do [TS]

00:51:26   right everything that's in the show is [TS]

00:51:28   in the show and everything in pyramids [TS]

00:51:31   is part of pyramids we're a business yes [TS]

00:51:33   that takes businesses and turns them [TS]

00:51:36   into businesses we business your [TS]

00:51:39   business harder as soon as we start [TS]

00:51:41   turning a business into a business [TS]

00:51:42   that's our that's our business we're [TS]

00:51:45   business of America is business in the [TS]

00:51:46   business of pyramids is business is [TS]

00:51:48   business and we're going to charge you [TS]

00:51:50   for charging you as part of our bills as [TS]

00:51:53   part of our business of businesses we're [TS]

00:51:55   charging you for charging every time we [TS]

00:51:58   charge them we're going to charge them [TS]

00:51:59   for the expense of charging well then of [TS]

00:52:02   course there's the recharge surcharge oh [TS]

00:52:03   there should be a surcharge to recharge [TS]

00:52:06   the surcharge to recharge and also if [TS]

00:52:08   you have any inquiries about your bill [TS]

00:52:09   there may be a very very very small [TS]

00:52:12   large fee associated with the request [TS]

00:52:15   surcharge recharge if there are any [TS]

00:52:17   inquiries we're gonna have to make some [TS]

00:52:18   inquiries should 5% appear too small be [TS]

00:52:21   thankful I don't think about Oh Judah [TS]

00:52:25   Wilson oh ho mr. Heath sitting in an [TS]

00:52:30   English guard [TS]

00:52:31   desperation is the English Way okay so [TS]

00:52:37   now let's do we owe money do for that so [TS]

00:52:44   the thing is it won't be would be with [TS]

00:52:46   no not northern song we would know it to [TS]

00:52:48   Hera songs we era songs and his lawyers [TS]

00:52:51   and to what was that was that Dave [TS]

00:52:53   Gilmour yeah you know I thought your [TS]

00:52:56   wires is playing Dave Gilmour songs in [TS]

00:52:58   in the newly refreshed Pink Floyd I [TS]

00:53:00   noticed that too slightly numbers the [TS]

00:53:02   trailers it never stopped Gilmore from [TS]

00:53:05   playing waters songs I mean although i [TS]

00:53:07   don't think that gilmore ever played [TS]

00:53:08   pros and cons of hitchhiking this all [TS]

00:53:11   comes off shaky 30 oh look you know why [TS]

00:53:16   on the custom pool why that was the [TS]

00:53:18   symbol that should that record had good [TS]

00:53:20   songs on it but I just remember but on [TS]

00:53:22   the cover there's a daily prominent [TS]

00:53:24   ladies but on the cover was a prominent [TS]

00:53:26   bud mm-hmm it's really those a big but [TS]

00:53:29   error not not large as in not large as [TS]

00:53:31   in butts I can't deny but more like in [TS]

00:53:33   that era you just saw some big shiny [TS]

00:53:35   butts all the time I know what you got [TS]

00:53:39   that was his name from lover boy Mike [TS]

00:53:40   love is that his name mikri know you got [TS]

00:53:42   his butt on the cover of the album there [TS]

00:53:44   are a lot of butts butts and berets oh [TS]

00:53:45   well think about Bruce Springsteen [TS]

00:53:47   grease pencils so 10 million copies of [TS]

00:53:50   that that's right born down in a dead [TS]

00:53:51   man's town now see how I'm gonna Bruce [TS]

00:53:54   Springsteen money me glee could pull him [TS]

00:53:56   in maybe we could get at him an equity [TS]

00:53:57   share in pyramids we should bring in [TS]

00:53:59   some of these artists enough to pay for [TS]

00:54:00   quoting their songs you know the pros [TS]

00:54:02   and cons of hitchhiking record to cover [TS]

00:54:04   now that I'm looking at it at the time [TS]

00:54:06   that this came out right which would [TS]

00:54:08   have been 118 you eat too yeah buddy too [TS]

00:54:11   so 1982 right this is this is a key time [TS]

00:54:15   for me in the development of my sense of [TS]

00:54:19   what it is what what what life is going [TS]

00:54:22   to be right 1982 so I am 13 uh-huh and [TS]

00:54:26   I'm just I'm just evolving uh what does [TS]

00:54:30   you no likey a lot of people's like [TS]

00:54:33   sexuality starts to evolve you know your [TS]

00:54:36   sexuality starts to evolve viv with it [TS]

00:54:39   within a pretty wide range of time right [TS]

00:54:41   I think you're you start your sexuality [TS]

00:54:44   starts to [TS]

00:54:45   all obviously when you're a little child [TS]

00:54:46   but as you get to be like in your teens [TS]

00:54:49   puberty comes into play and all of a [TS]

00:54:52   sudden you have these strange feelings [TS]

00:54:53   but you're looking around can't decide [TS]

00:54:55   who's more important your peers or the [TS]

00:54:57   or the others you know the other side [TS]

00:54:59   where your where your romantic interest [TS]

00:55:02   lies and you're thinking you know what [TS]

00:55:04   who do I owe my allegiance to what's the [TS]

00:55:06   best way to go about this how do i [TS]

00:55:07   navigate this territory and I really [TS]

00:55:10   struggled in this time I know everybody [TS]

00:55:12   does but I really didn't know what to do [TS]

00:55:14   at all and part of it was that I didn't [TS]

00:55:17   have a very good idea of what my desire [TS]

00:55:21   was I wasn't sure what exactly I desired [TS]

00:55:25   Sonny on the other side of the of the [TS]

00:55:27   divide right I wasn't sure if I was [TS]

00:55:30   straight or gay for a long time I [TS]

00:55:32   struggled with the idea you know what I [TS]

00:55:34   wasn't I couldn't exactly nail down what [TS]

00:55:37   I was looking for in somebody else not [TS]

00:55:40   not physically not emotionally not [TS]

00:55:43   anything you know and so I was I was in [TS]

00:55:45   this fog of like is that attractive to [TS]

00:55:48   me is this attractive to me is this [TS]

00:55:50   person attractive is that person [TS]

00:55:51   attractive couldn't say for the life of [TS]

00:55:54   me and it's not that I it's not that I [TS]

00:55:55   wasn't attracted to any of those people [TS]

00:55:59   are things I was attracted to them kind [TS]

00:56:01   of all and but I but you know what was [TS]

00:56:04   my taste I guess I didn't know i mean [TS]

00:56:07   you know do i mean i feel you because [TS]

00:56:09   there's this thing of if you think about [TS]

00:56:12   it like casually know like my hmm you [TS]

00:56:15   know my daughter's nine and she's like [TS]

00:56:16   doing some stuff more like she's think [TS]

00:56:17   about her hair a little more picking out [TS]

00:56:19   outfits and stuff and I could just feel [TS]

00:56:21   like it's probably like the tip of the [TS]

00:56:22   spear of you know this coming into her [TS]

00:56:24   own but you think about for that you're [TS]

00:56:26   describing how like this stuff starts [TS]

00:56:27   from such a young age and it's but it's [TS]

00:56:29   so impossibly abstract cuz like you're [TS]

00:56:32   describing here like in my straight am i [TS]

00:56:33   gay like what does that even mean well [TS]

00:56:35   you know like I could be attracted to [TS]

00:56:37   this but but not that but like you know [TS]

00:56:39   I'm saying like you know so so like let [TS]

00:56:41   me show you this it's like when one of [TS]

00:56:42   the things in National Geographic world [TS]

00:56:44   we zoom way in on something go and no [TS]

00:56:45   here's this image are you attracted that [TS]

00:56:47   oh you're a fact like the wrong bus it's [TS]

00:56:50   so weird that's so strange and you're [TS]

00:56:53   expected to derive your entire adult [TS]

00:56:55   identity based on like guessing how to [TS]

00:56:56   answer that question right it's so [TS]

00:56:58   I'd it really was no no actually it's [TS]

00:57:00   not a but it's an elbow you're a pervert [TS]

00:57:02   like it's so weird well and and and at [TS]

00:57:06   at that particular time right there was [TS]

00:57:09   a like to if you think back to and this [TS]

00:57:13   again will sound crazy to to younger [TS]

00:57:16   people but like there were body types [TS]

00:57:20   that were not just preferred but it was [TS]

00:57:23   like the body type of the era right if [TS]

00:57:25   you think back to the Victorian times [TS]

00:57:28   and you have this tiny little waist in [TS]

00:57:29   this giant you know that the like a hoop [TS]

00:57:32   skirt in order to imitate like the [TS]

00:57:34   biggest possible but you think about [TS]

00:57:36   yeah yeah the tiniest little ways them [TS]

00:57:38   there's women I know today would not [TS]

00:57:39   want to bow in the back of a dress and [TS]

00:57:41   yet back then you'd get a bustle you'd [TS]

00:57:43   get a buffle right 1950s you got your [TS]

00:57:46   you get your Marilyn Monroe point2 [TS]

00:57:49   points and then in the in the 60s this [TS]

00:57:52   model called Twiggy came along who was [TS]

00:57:54   rail thin and she was sort of imitating [TS]

00:57:57   the style of the 1920s the kind of a [TS]

00:58:00   flapper body which was like you know [TS]

00:58:03   small bust small hips just sort of [TS]

00:58:05   narrow lean androgynous form and then in [TS]

00:58:11   the 80s in the 70s well in the 70s yeah [TS]

00:58:15   right i guess playback rate in the [TS]

00:58:16   middle of the Jane Fonda let's get [TS]

00:58:18   physical era let's get physical error [TS]

00:58:20   right where there was a lot of like [TS]

00:58:23   everybody was in really good the ideal [TS]

00:58:27   let's say we really good physical shape [TS]

00:58:29   but it still was like big breasts like [TS]

00:58:32   uh like I guess I guess this was the era [TS]

00:58:36   big breasts small but maybe that's good [TS]

00:58:38   anyway a tight but what type but this [TS]

00:58:40   was a this was still at a time when [TS]

00:58:42   there was a kind of a single idea [TS]

00:58:44   culture wide of what beauty was and it's [TS]

00:58:48   not you know now it's such a diversity [TS]

00:58:50   of beauty that you could never recall a [TS]

00:58:52   time probably where less you're a [TS]

00:58:56   certain age where there was just like [TS]

00:58:57   well that's beautiful and everything [TS]

00:58:59   else is weird and at the time when I was [TS]

00:59:02   coming into my into my agency the sexual [TS]

00:59:07   the the beauty [TS]

00:59:09   right which was typically blonde with [TS]

00:59:13   like blown out hair Farrah Fawcett I [TS]

00:59:15   mean a faucet didn't have a big bust but [TS]

00:59:17   she was you know loni anderson right [TS]

00:59:20   this was the ideal and I and it and it [TS]

00:59:22   held no attraction to me like I was die [TS]

00:59:24   did not that was just it did nothing for [TS]

00:59:26   me didn't ring any bells I was always [TS]

00:59:29   like much more intrigued by small people [TS]

00:59:31   with short dark hair regardless of like [TS]

00:59:34   what their gender was and so the pros [TS]

00:59:37   and cons of hitchhiking record cover was [TS]

00:59:41   like very titillating right it's a naked [TS]

00:59:43   person mm-hmm from behind and I hadn't [TS]

00:59:46   thought of it in years so I hadn't gone [TS]

00:59:48   to look at it but when it's a lady it's [TS]

00:59:50   it's a late I remember it's like a lady [TS]

00:59:52   with a shiny but in high heels am I [TS]

00:59:54   remembering it right wearing a backpack [TS]

00:59:56   sticking out her thumb because she's [TS]

00:59:58   hitchhiking okay so these are these are [TS]

00:59:59   considered [TS]

00:59:59   considered [TS]

01:00:00   the the pros of the cons were seeing [TS]

01:00:01   this is Japan's right i mean i think for [TS]

01:00:04   a lot of people this is one of the pros [TS]

01:00:05   of hitchhikers ask you this or blown [TS]

01:00:07   glass every rise for free uh you would [TS]

01:00:12   this was a person that you were [TS]

01:00:14   hitchhiking that you picked up while [TS]

01:00:16   hitchhiking i think you would consider [TS]

01:00:17   the pro if you were most people yeah but [TS]

01:00:19   you wanna put something on the seat [TS]

01:00:19   probably oh sure a towel wow this is [TS]

01:00:23   much more poorly produced i remember [TS]

01:00:26   yeah it's a really bad the art is really [TS]

01:00:28   bad it looks like a looks like gay what [TS]

01:00:30   sort of looking for like like a Winston [TS]

01:00:32   Smith thing for dead kennedys like it's [TS]

01:00:34   really weird yeah or or somebody's [TS]

01:00:37   initially had the idea like let's do one [TS]

01:00:40   of those Warhol's like they required a [TS]

01:00:42   ralph steadman kind of look but we can't [TS]

01:00:44   afford Ralph Steadman yeah right so [TS]

01:00:46   we'll throw some paint at a picture of a [TS]

01:00:48   girl but if you look at her picture now [TS]

01:00:50   she's extremely thin she's very tall and [TS]

01:00:53   lean yeah but I remember it being [TS]

01:00:56   described at the time of like oh it's [TS]

01:00:58   you know this is like a big butt or I [TS]

01:01:00   remember about some bigger at the time [TS]

01:01:02   not not not a pejorative but you know [TS]

01:01:04   but like it really stood out and what [TS]

01:01:06   I'm saying is I think that record like [TS]

01:01:08   put in it it was the type of cultural [TS]

01:01:12   thing that went wide where it changed [TS]

01:01:15   how we looked at butts it really did it [TS]

01:01:18   change how i look at buds yeah and and [TS]

01:01:20   I'd like to on I'd like to unwrap I'd [TS]

01:01:23   like to go back in time and not have [TS]

01:01:26   that have affected my oh interesting you [TS]

01:01:28   want to kind of really write those those [TS]

01:01:30   blocks yeah yeah I think so I mean I [TS]

01:01:33   think that it is I think it did me a [TS]

01:01:35   disservice it did us all a disservice oh [TS]

01:01:37   yeah you have that particular but which [TS]

01:01:39   is a fine but let me not just let me not [TS]

01:01:42   disparage that one but i do not i did [TS]

01:01:44   that is not the size of but that I think [TS]

01:01:49   is like what would be considered like [TS]

01:01:51   normal sized or even like that's not [TS]

01:01:55   that's not my tasting buds let's say and [TS]

01:01:57   I think that it affected my ability to [TS]

01:01:59   have a taste in a different kind of but [TS]

01:02:01   for a little brief period where I was [TS]

01:02:02   like Jesus VII is this that's a if [TS]

01:02:05   that's a big but let me tell you I'm [TS]

01:02:07   living in the wrong country mr. yeah [TS]

01:02:09   it's almost like you got only see [TS]

01:02:11   miscalibrated [TS]

01:02:12   miss hybrid if you are a piece of lab [TS]

01:02:14   equipment like you would be functioning [TS]

01:02:16   within normal parameters without ever [TS]

01:02:18   knowing that even though you are [TS]

01:02:20   accurate to how you were calibrated that [TS]

01:02:22   calibration was not a good calibration [TS]

01:02:23   so here's an interesting factoid that [TS]

01:02:27   the model of that but uh uh is a woman [TS]

01:02:31   named Lindsay drew Lindsay spelt with an [TS]

01:02:33   i zi li and zi Lindsay Lindsay drew ok [TS]

01:02:38   we should we should hire she's only 10 [TS]

01:02:40   years older than I don't get around the [TS]

01:02:41   ground floor of pyramids well I feel [TS]

01:02:43   like she would be a perfect spokesperson [TS]

01:02:45   for pyramids would she but show her but [TS]

01:02:46   no no no but she can speak from a place [TS]

01:02:49   of wisdom that's exactly right she could [TS]

01:02:51   speak from a place of she could speak [TS]

01:02:53   from a time when her when she understood [TS]

01:02:57   that her butt was like a taste making [TS]

01:03:00   but mmm but also she's had a lot of [TS]

01:03:01   experience she uh she did quite a bit of [TS]

01:03:04   nude modeling at the time and then [TS]

01:03:08   became sort of a I know she well she [TS]

01:03:12   retired from that OIC adult films yeah [TS]

01:03:15   and she has also then she was an actress [TS]

01:03:17   she appeared in American Werewolf in [TS]

01:03:19   London I love that movie oh she's in [TS]

01:03:21   layer of the way worm yeah I don't know [TS]

01:03:23   what that is oh that's what is a Ken [TS]

01:03:25   Russell it's got Amanda Donahue a very [TS]

01:03:28   young um Peter Capaldi hmm never seen it [TS]

01:03:33   oh it's one's got a Hugh Grant him cute [TS]

01:03:35   very young Hugh Grant it is such a [TS]

01:03:37   whackadoo movie Oh Simon's last dance no [TS]

01:03:39   way british horror film that fence so [TS]

01:03:43   anyway mistress monique aww she has a [TS]

01:03:45   child named tiger tiger drew honey this [TS]

01:03:47   is the type of thing that without the [TS]

01:03:49   internet we could never possibly know [TS]

01:03:50   that though that the woman from the [TS]

01:03:52   cover of The Late what Roger Waters is [TS]

01:03:55   great album pros and cons of hitchhiking [TS]

01:03:57   his first solo album if you if you do [TS]

01:04:01   not consider the final cut Roger water [TS]

01:04:03   solo album which some which some be [TS]

01:04:05   incorrect is that for another show um [TS]

01:04:08   but that she that model who made such a [TS]

01:04:11   great impact on us at the time actually [TS]

01:04:14   was in a movie with Hugh Grant we could [TS]

01:04:17   never have known that if it wasn't for [TS]

01:04:18   the existence of the internet and then [TS]

01:04:22   here we are this is off you think we're [TS]

01:04:24   better off you know it's thing about [TS]

01:04:26   this the other day and I don't know if I [TS]

01:04:28   don't know if we've covered this in as [TS]

01:04:31   greater detail as I think we should and [TS]

01:04:33   I and by saying that I'm I suspect that [TS]

01:04:35   we have not okay because I want to cover [TS]

01:04:37   it some more but i do really feel like [TS]

01:04:40   right now this is a this will be [TS]

01:04:42   remembered as the era when things got [TS]

01:04:45   inputted this will be remembered as the [TS]

01:04:47   input era and add us because because [TS]

01:04:52   there are there is now a sort of mixed [TS]

01:04:56   generation of people who remember [TS]

01:04:59   looking things up in books who remember [TS]

01:05:01   a time when information was scarce who [TS]

01:05:03   remember a time when it when Lindsay [TS]

01:05:06   drew did not it was not necessarily [TS]

01:05:09   going to be easy to figure out who [TS]

01:05:10   Lindsay drew was right there are a lot [TS]

01:05:12   of us whoo-hoo remember that time but [TS]

01:05:16   also our internet savvy you know or at [TS]

01:05:19   least internet internet literate and [TS]

01:05:21   behind us is a generation that has no [TS]

01:05:27   idea how to use the internet and they [TS]

01:05:29   still are trying to look things up in [TS]

01:05:31   books and ahead of us are a generation [TS]

01:05:33   that never learned how to look up things [TS]

01:05:36   in books and and if it isn't on the [TS]

01:05:37   internet it doesn't exist and so for [TS]

01:05:40   those of us in this in this middle [TS]

01:05:42   period there is a tremendous obligation [TS]

01:05:44   I think to make sure that as much stuff [TS]

01:05:48   gets onto the internet as possible it's [TS]

01:05:51   though and I really think it's the [TS]

01:05:53   Wikipedia generation is how will be [TS]

01:05:55   understood because if it doesn't make it [TS]

01:05:59   on to the internet now it's gonna be a [TS]

01:06:02   lot smooth I see what you're saying it's [TS]

01:06:05   along the lines of hey go interview your [TS]

01:06:08   elderly relatives right that's right so [TS]

01:06:10   like even if you don't do anything with [TS]

01:06:11   that tape today tape listen to me you [TS]

01:06:13   can do something in the future you're [TS]

01:06:15   saying get it on the internet now or [TS]

01:06:16   it's never gonna be anywhere that's [TS]

01:06:18   right so I was thinking about this in [TS]

01:06:19   terms of I was looking out the window of [TS]

01:06:20   my bathroom at my catalpa tree and so [TS]

01:06:23   when I first moved into this house I [TS]

01:06:24   looked out the window at that catalpa [TS]

01:06:26   tree and I said you know what i should [TS]

01:06:28   do i should keep an almanac i should [TS]

01:06:29   keep a little book here by the window [TS]

01:06:31   and every every year i should write down [TS]

01:06:35   when the leaves first come out on the [TS]

01:06:37   catalpa i should write down when the [TS]

01:06:38   leaves finally drop off of the catalpa [TS]

01:06:40   in the fall i should write down at the [TS]

01:06:43   changing seasons in this little almanac [TS]

01:06:46   that i keep by this window because i'm [TS]

01:06:47   in this room every day and it would be [TS]

01:06:49   and I should just notate things as they [TS]

01:06:52   occur when this when it snows what days [TS]

01:06:56   have rain you know just like [TS]

01:06:57   old-fashioned kind of Almanac I was [TS]

01:07:00   looking out the window yesterday and I [TS]

01:07:03   realized like that is a thing over the [TS]

01:07:06   course of history that a lot of people [TS]

01:07:07   have done they've kept little Almanac [TS]

01:07:09   sub at their farm and and it's been a [TS]

01:07:14   source of great pleasure for them and I [TS]

01:07:16   think there are probably lots and lots [TS]

01:07:18   of people who have kept almanacs for 40 [TS]

01:07:20   years and they have a 40 year record of [TS]

01:07:22   all the first leafing out and and what [TS]

01:07:26   you know how many birds they saw this [TS]

01:07:28   year how many fewer birds they saw the [TS]

01:07:30   following year and those almanacs were [TS]

01:07:33   always considered a kind of records of [TS]

01:07:37   the property maybe you would hand it [TS]

01:07:38   down to whoever bought the farm it's a [TS]

01:07:41   little like a captain's log a captain's [TS]

01:07:43   log okay be it might seem day-to-day [TS]

01:07:46   it's it's well it what it is is it's [TS]

01:07:49   ephemeral data from day to day like [TS]

01:07:51   writing down what the temperature was in [TS]

01:07:53   the field in this one spot is very [TS]

01:07:54   ephemeral but over time that's very [TS]

01:07:56   meaningful yeah right and I think the [TS]

01:07:58   great almanacs like you know if Lewis [TS]

01:08:03   bromfield kept an almanac that Almanac [TS]

01:08:06   eventually ended up in the public [TS]

01:08:10   library in Ohio somewhere and you know [TS]

01:08:13   in whatever Lucas Ohio and those you [TS]

01:08:17   know and truly great almanacs became [TS]

01:08:19   things that were recognized as like oh [TS]

01:08:22   this is actually part of the historical [TS]

01:08:23   record like looking up Lewis bromfield [TS]

01:08:25   as a science farmer from Ohio science [TS]

01:08:27   farmer there I wish there were more [TS]

01:08:30   science farmers what wait a minute [TS]

01:08:33   wasn't science farmer also the [TS]

01:08:34   description of Matthew McConaughey in [TS]

01:08:36   that dumb movie when he's behind the [TS]

01:08:37   bookshelf [TS]

01:08:38   science barber but so Louis sorry Louis [TS]

01:08:46   Bromfield of Mansfield Ohio okay [TS]

01:08:49   Mansfield any in it anyway so right now [TS]

01:08:52   around the country right there are [TS]

01:08:55   people whose grandparents have a little [TS]

01:08:56   farm and they now have moved to the big [TS]

01:09:00   city they're living in Cincinnati and [TS]

01:09:01   they're working for pyramids com um and [TS]

01:09:04   they go back home and you know maybe it [TS]

01:09:07   comes up in conversation over there you [TS]

01:09:09   know they look on the bookshelf and they [TS]

01:09:10   see what is this you know grandma what [TS]

01:09:12   is this oh that's the Almanac and we put [TS]

01:09:14   in every year how many crows came and [TS]

01:09:18   ate our seed and there's an opportunity [TS]

01:09:21   right there in that moment to recognize [TS]

01:09:24   a person our age or slightly younger to [TS]

01:09:27   recognize in that moment oh my goodness [TS]

01:09:29   this is a wealth of information and it [TS]

01:09:32   right now is not searchable it's not [TS]

01:09:34   disseminate able it cannot be connected [TS]

01:09:37   to anything else and if I don't input [TS]

01:09:39   this somehow if I don't make it a [TS]

01:09:41   special project to go and input this [TS]

01:09:44   data then it will not exist in the [TS]

01:09:47   future and it's a missed opportunity [TS]

01:09:49   because if everybody put in all their [TS]

01:09:51   family almanacs we would be able then to [TS]

01:09:53   cross-reference those almanacs and say [TS]

01:09:56   on april first anywhere in the united [TS]

01:09:59   states was it you know what was the [TS]

01:10:01   weather what was the when did the leaves [TS]

01:10:03   come out you know this is late and it's [TS]

01:10:05   not just true of almanacs it's true of [TS]

01:10:07   everything if you if your grandparents [TS]

01:10:10   don't get biography now they never will [TS]

01:10:14   and it wasn't a thing that we ever cared [TS]

01:10:16   about before because who cared I mean [TS]

01:10:18   there wasn't there never would have been [TS]

01:10:21   you would have written a biography of [TS]

01:10:22   your great-grandmother and then that [TS]

01:10:24   would have gone on the shelf in your [TS]

01:10:25   family house it's only now that that [TS]

01:10:28   stuff is up and it's useful in the [TS]

01:10:31   aggregate right no but there's just two [TS]

01:10:33   there's at least a couple angles there's [TS]

01:10:35   the one angle that's always been true [TS]

01:10:36   which is that this is very this is very [TS]

01:10:39   delicate information that gets harder to [TS]

01:10:41   gather harder to collect and you know [TS]

01:10:45   compile every every month really let [TS]

01:10:48   alone every year like if you want to do [TS]

01:10:49   a lot of information on World War [TS]

01:10:51   one veteran's well that window is kind [TS]

01:10:52   of closed and now you're going to really [TS]

01:10:54   go sift through papers the other thing [TS]

01:10:56   is there's so much other new information [TS]

01:10:58   crowding out all the other information I [TS]

01:11:00   mean I understand information just [TS]

01:11:01   information but like the finding a [TS]

01:11:03   needle in a haystack and is going to get [TS]

01:11:05   harder as that those haystacks become [TS]

01:11:07   multiplied well and that's what that's [TS]

01:11:09   why I feel like this is such an [TS]

01:11:10   important moment because the almanacs [TS]

01:11:13   from farms that from farms older than [TS]

01:11:19   that the lab that the generation of [TS]

01:11:22   great grandparents that are still alive [TS]

01:11:23   right now right the very few World War [TS]

01:11:25   two veterans that are still alive those [TS]

01:11:28   almanacs are still sitting on the [TS]

01:11:30   shelves uh it's a very very small number [TS]

01:11:35   of their grandparents almanacs that have [TS]

01:11:37   survived thus far because what happens [TS]

01:11:39   is somebody dies and it's just like my [TS]

01:11:41   mom handing me that envelope that said [TS]

01:11:44   pictures of people you never knew and [TS]

01:11:47   she hands me this giant manila envelope [TS]

01:11:50   and I go what the hell is this and she [TS]

01:11:51   said well I was going to throw this away [TS]

01:11:52   but I know that this is the type of [TS]

01:11:54   thing you yell at me when I throw away [TS]

01:11:55   so I thought I would just bring it to [TS]

01:11:57   you and you can decide what to do with [TS]

01:11:58   it pictures of people you never knew Wow [TS]

01:12:01   and I'll I opened it up and I poured it [TS]

01:12:03   out on the table and it is a you know [TS]

01:12:05   it's probably 500 black-and-white [TS]

01:12:08   photographs a lot of them scalloped [TS]

01:12:11   edged portraits that were given out on [TS]

01:12:14   high school graduation right your high [TS]

01:12:16   school graduation photo that you traded [TS]

01:12:17   with all your friends but a ton of [TS]

01:12:20   pictures of just like people and t [TS]

01:12:22   shirts and khakis throwing a football [TS]

01:12:24   there's a 1939 Ford in the background [TS]

01:12:28   there was a trip that that her class [TS]

01:12:30   took to Cuba well in the early 50s just [TS]

01:12:35   like photos that are no longer connected [TS]

01:12:39   to anybody they don't have anyone's name [TS]

01:12:42   written on them and my mom could sit [TS]

01:12:45   with me and write down the name of each [TS]

01:12:47   person that she could remember on the [TS]

01:12:48   back of these photos but what is what's [TS]

01:12:51   happening there is that those photos are [TS]

01:12:53   going in the garbage and the only reason [TS]

01:12:56   they're not is that I'm holding them [TS]

01:12:57   right now and I don't know what to do [TS]

01:12:58   with them but every year when people die [TS]

01:13:02   all that record just goes into the it [TS]

01:13:05   just falls off the cliff right and it [TS]

01:13:08   always has now from this point forward [TS]

01:13:11   none of that information is going off [TS]

01:13:14   the cliff because we're all retaining [TS]

01:13:15   everything and when the first could win [TS]

01:13:19   the catalpa tree leaves out in Seattle [TS]

01:13:21   is recorded some you know somehow by by [TS]

01:13:24   some sort of photograph that's going to [TS]

01:13:27   be preserved online forever let's and [TS]

01:13:29   I'm assuming I'm assuming this sort of [TS]

01:13:32   conceit that what goes on line is [TS]

01:13:34   preserved forever now that may not end [TS]

01:13:36   up being true but it's a it's a conceit [TS]

01:13:39   from which I'm proceeding anyway so [TS]

01:13:41   we're in this weird space where there [TS]

01:13:45   actually is a tremendous record still [TS]

01:13:48   existing of of a generation that's just [TS]

01:13:53   now dying right we are the people who [TS]

01:13:55   are going in and cleaning out our [TS]

01:13:56   grandparents house and making decisions [TS]

01:13:58   about this stuff like these are pictures [TS]

01:14:01   of people I don't know hopper right this [TS]

01:14:03   is some Almanac about some farm that we [TS]

01:14:05   don't own any more hopper and we have an [TS]

01:14:09   opportunity to just to to reach back [TS]

01:14:12   just 50 or 60 years and gather that [TS]

01:14:15   information pre-internet information and [TS]

01:14:18   bring it forward into the into the [TS]

01:14:20   future and failing to do it then it [TS]

01:14:25   really will be this line of like in 2005 [TS]

01:14:31   from 2005 forward we know we know a [TS]

01:14:36   whole like an exponentially a greater [TS]

01:14:40   amount about everything then from 2005 [TS]

01:14:43   past you know and and 2005 everything [TS]

01:14:47   before 2005 will seem like the Middle [TS]

01:14:50   Ages in terms of the amount of [TS]

01:14:53   information we have about it right [TS]

01:14:54   because it won't be accessible right if [TS]

01:14:56   you go online and look up my dad there's [TS]

01:14:59   the only thing that's that's online [TS]

01:15:02   about my dad in his entire life is the [TS]

01:15:04   obituary that I wrote that's the only [TS]

01:15:08   record asus range and you know when you [TS]

01:15:13   or I die [TS]

01:15:14   you'll be able to you know well [TS]

01:15:18   basically you'll be able to interact [TS]

01:15:19   with us because we will be one of the [TS]

01:15:21   first VR BOTS hello I am Merlin Mann [TS]

01:15:26   please do not contact me OOP stop asad [TS]

01:15:31   stopping thank you for contacting me you [TS]

01:15:35   have no the pyramids calm would you like [TS]

01:15:42   to grow their downline with permits our [TS]

01:15:46   business is business if you believe you [TS]

01:15:49   are a Dutch with cancer touch one I mean [TS]

01:15:54   I think about like my responsibility to [TS]

01:15:56   my own mom yeah because she does not [TS]

01:15:58   want any record of herself good for her [TS]

01:16:01   right she's the last of she's the last [TS]

01:16:04   of a dying era where she says I do not [TS]

01:16:06   want a funeral and I said what what do [TS]

01:16:09   you care you'll be dead the funeral is [TS]

01:16:11   for the living and she she says do not [TS]

01:16:14   have a funeral for me do not write an [TS]

01:16:17   obituary do not do any of that shit that [TS]

01:16:19   you did for your father and I'm like [TS]

01:16:21   butt butt butt and she's like aah and [TS]

01:16:23   she's adamant right she wants she wants [TS]

01:16:27   me to take her ashes out and she hasn't [TS]

01:16:29   even stipulated I don't you know if I [TS]

01:16:31   say where do you want me to spread your [TS]

01:16:32   ashes I don't know whether she'll say [TS]

01:16:34   benim like completely completely [TS]

01:16:38   unsympathetic but when it comes to like [TS]

01:16:42   is my daughter when she wants to think [TS]

01:16:47   about her Nana when she wants to [TS]

01:16:49   interact with her Nana when she wants to [TS]

01:16:51   research her know about her is she going [TS]

01:16:54   to have a method that makes any sense to [TS]

01:16:57   her outside of going on her computer or [TS]

01:17:00   going up in her in her computer glasses [TS]

01:17:02   or whatever if I say oh well the only [TS]

01:17:05   thing you know but like the way we're [TS]

01:17:06   gonna remember nana is with this [TS]

01:17:09   envelope called pictures of people you [TS]

01:17:12   never knew because the only thing she [TS]

01:17:13   left me these i guess our people she [TS]

01:17:15   went to high school with sweetie let's [TS]

01:17:16   sit and look at them like I I don't know [TS]

01:17:19   how to record her not just not for her [TS]

01:17:22   not even for history but to just make [TS]

01:17:25   her alive [TS]

01:17:26   in the future yeah you're not gonna have [TS]

01:17:29   so many scallop edged photos yeah right [TS]

01:17:34   and I and and I won't I just I think [TS]

01:17:36   about like the way that we are being [TS]

01:17:39   recorded literally right now now we're [TS]

01:17:42   being recorded you are actually [TS]

01:17:43   recording us yeah but it's more I mean [TS]

01:17:46   even this program alone gives more [TS]

01:17:48   insight into you and me in perpetuity [TS]

01:17:50   than any single record I have of my [TS]

01:17:52   father there's no one thing I could [TS]

01:17:56   point to and say here's one hour of my [TS]

01:17:58   father being himself that will give you [TS]

01:18:00   a sense of him and so this so this [TS]

01:18:04   generation that has these cassette tapes [TS]

01:18:07   I mean I do have cassette tapes of my [TS]

01:18:08   dad doing like depositions which are [TS]

01:18:12   very interesting to listen to because [TS]

01:18:14   you hear a bunch of people droning and [TS]

01:18:16   then you hear my father's voice droning [TS]

01:18:17   and there's always humor in my dad's [TS]

01:18:19   voice and when my dad speaks to the [TS]

01:18:21   court you can always hear the court [TS]

01:18:22   reporter chuckling and that gives you an [TS]

01:18:25   amazing sense of my dad but what's my [TS]

01:18:27   obligation there do i do I go find a [TS]

01:18:30   cassette to digital recorder and put all [TS]

01:18:34   those tapes in and then do a supercut of [TS]

01:18:35   my dad going Your Honor I selected I'd [TS]

01:18:39   like it entered into the record you know [TS]

01:18:41   just like like a bunch of three second [TS]

01:18:43   cuts of him talking I don't know man [TS]

01:18:47   it's depressing well I mean I don't even [TS]

01:18:50   mean it to be depressing but like but I [TS]

01:18:52   do know like oh my god in every way it's [TS]

01:18:54   depressing tears and rain John because [TS]

01:18:57   when I go on Wikipedia I'm so fascinated [TS]

01:18:59   by what's there and what's not oh you [TS]

01:19:02   and me both buddy right and so Lindsay [TS]

01:19:04   drew I never really nice one of those [TS]

01:19:07   things like who's the model on the cover [TS]

01:19:08   of pros and cons of hitchhiking you [TS]

01:19:10   never think you're gonna find the answer [TS]

01:19:12   but then somebody cared to do it I don't [TS]

01:19:17   know who I don't know who was response [TS]

01:19:19   but somebody said oh well and and it [TS]

01:19:26   almost certainly was derived from that [TS]

01:19:28   record cover because someone said who [TS]

01:19:30   was that model and then did that [TS]

01:19:33   research and then figured like oh that's [TS]

01:19:35   kind of interesting yeah I'm like [TS]

01:19:37   I always feel like this is really [TS]

01:19:38   productive but I always feel like um a [TS]

01:19:40   fair amount of the people out there [TS]

01:19:43   contributing to these somewhat obscure [TS]

01:19:44   pop culture topics are the kind of [TS]

01:19:46   people who watch DVD extras we're like [TS]

01:19:48   they they know they know they know it [TS]

01:19:51   and they know where to find it so like [TS]

01:19:53   I'd there may not be in again this is [TS]

01:19:55   somebody from another country i'm not [TS]

01:19:56   familiar with her work but there may be [TS]

01:19:57   people who sought out her adult film [TS]

01:20:00   stuff because of that cover you never [TS]

01:20:01   know but it could also be the DVD extra [TS]

01:20:03   people who just happen to be able to [TS]

01:20:04   pull that together and all of those you [TS]

01:20:06   know I you know rendezvous with [TS]

01:20:07   rochambeau consolidate their gifts like [TS]

01:20:09   you get all these people working in [TS]

01:20:10   concert and you pretty soon you got [TS]

01:20:12   stone soup which will be served at [TS]

01:20:14   pyramids by the way by the way oh and [TS]

01:20:16   our employee cafeterias don't soup every [TS]

01:20:18   day there's gonna there's it's one of [TS]

01:20:21   the red they're like other soups will [TS]

01:20:22   rotate but there will be stone soup [TS]

01:20:24   every date stone soup every day did you [TS]

01:20:26   know that uh that Lindsay drew actually [TS]

01:20:29   was the editor of the British edition of [TS]

01:20:32   penthouse magazine like she's not just a [TS]

01:20:34   model she can't goodness she's a she's a [TS]

01:20:36   she's not one that maybe not II got but [TS]

01:20:38   she's a slash at least well and this is [TS]

01:20:40   what confuses means e she appeared nude [TS]

01:20:44   each month in club international [TS]

01:20:47   magazine now I'm not sure how you could [TS]

01:20:50   I mean light I'm not sure how you could [TS]

01:20:52   appear each month because like the house [TS]

01:20:55   band she's like the house band of club [TS]

01:20:58   international hmm um I'm gonna I'm gonna [TS]

01:21:02   have to spend a little bit more time [TS]

01:21:03   with Lindsay drew because you know I [TS]

01:21:05   mean I me I mean it's part of your [TS]

01:21:07   research I didn't have a subscription to [TS]

01:21:09   clubs international but I certainly saw [TS]

01:21:10   the magazine I mean I saw it on the on [TS]

01:21:13   the websites honey I'm adult films 24 [TS]

01:21:16   wonder how they decide what category [TS]

01:21:21   well what counts as an adult film right [TS]

01:21:24   why should look at on Wikipedia former [TS]

01:21:28   editor of forum magazine is that the [TS]

01:21:31   Penthouse Forum magazine I think so but [TS]

01:21:34   but British edition she's a depression [TS]

01:21:36   oh I never thought this has happened to [TS]

01:21:37   me [TS]

01:21:39   she was only 15 years old [TS]