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171: Pirate Politics (A Winter Reading List)

 

00:00:01   the Intolerable number 171 November 2030 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1">TS</a>]

00:00:09   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/9">TS</a>]

00:00:10   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason snail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   and we're back with a sequel to episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   99 if you consult your uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   reference materials that I you no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   bring out before you listen to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   episode to tally how many times I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   comment about how many books Scott multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   reads or how many references to david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   Flores the next day and more'n or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   know you i can't really expect anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   to count the number of times we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   about Glendinning because that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/36">TS</a>]

00:00:37   nearly an infinite number if my math is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   correct but anyway you'll discover that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   episode 99 with something we call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/42">TS</a>]

00:00:43   summer reading list which was not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   a draft so much as just a an opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   for us to pick books that we like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   we wanted to recommend that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51   out there might want to read we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   lot of feedback from people saying hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55   I'm looking for a good book to read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   got any suggestions and so we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/58">TS</a>]

00:00:59   it again and so that was the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   reading list I guess this is the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   reading list although there's no theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   intended here other than books we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   and by the time we're done you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   have more than a dozen books that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   cannot consider to put on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   reading list or if you want if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   expecting gifts this holiday season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   put on your gift list and have a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   have your loved ones buy them for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   so everybody's going to pick some books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23   they like and talk about them a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/83">TS</a>]

00:01:24   bit and that's the whole show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   let me introduce these people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   who have read at least three books to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   comprise a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/91">TS</a>]

00:01:32   David lore as i mentioned before he's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   almost every podcast but dan morons not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   on hi David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   hello I'm still talking about the Glen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   innings and in my cleaning ledger two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   separate book actually witches it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   cookbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/106">TS</a>]

00:01:47   it's a cookbook doesn't count against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   your 30 it's not a very good read no i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   not i wouldn't recommend not Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   fleischmann a4 mentioned is here hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   Kline hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56   I shall mention no German novels this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   evening it's too bad the sorrows young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   birther is actually not that not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   bad but next Island fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   that's right ya next time Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   Schmeisser is also here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   hi Lisa hi good to have you here thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   you it's nice to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   Erica and sign is back with us again hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   Erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   hello nice to be back yes excellent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   Scott McNulty of course the ringer he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   read all the books you can pick any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   look and welcome Scott winter is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/143">TS</a>]

00:02:27   Jason yeah that's right and you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   books you need books to burn for warm as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/148">TS</a>]

00:02:34   you need them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   so is this why you read the george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36   martin is it last longer in a blizzard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   yeah exactly you can enjoy a page it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   before you burn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   yeah that's right i have a cottage built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   entirely of Stephen King novels for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   reason Jim la creepiest cottage is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/166">TS</a>]

00:02:51   of stephen king himself so because I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55   just can't resist the the draft format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   we will least pick in some sort of order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   and I've asked my panelists not to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   any of the books that were in episode 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   because we don't want to be the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   friends who keep recommending the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   books to you over and over again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   gets boring so we're going to be we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   gonna do things a little differently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/192">TS</a>]

00:03:13   i'm going to start with Lisa Schmeisser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   what do you--what do you have with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   first recommendation my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   recommendation is Christopher Moore's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   the last lizard of melancholy cove I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/202">TS</a>]

00:03:26   never heard of this really is a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   Israel are you getting on it is a beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/208">TS</a>]

00:03:32   book now the less lizard of melancholy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   Cove is probably the best entry to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/214">TS</a>]

00:03:38   increasing body of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   christopher moore is an author based out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   of central to Northern California who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   may be known in less fantasy and sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   circles for his book lamb the gospel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/227">TS</a>]

00:03:52   biff christ's childhood pal and i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   recommend land but in order to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   out whether or not you like Chris more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58   as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   you should read the last lizard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   melancholy co-first it's about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   ancient sea creature which gets aroused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/243">TS</a>]

00:04:07   by a leak at a local nuclear plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   somehow stumbled into a trailer park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   assumes protective coloration and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   order to lure his prey he sends out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   vibes that somehow managed to readjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   everybody's mental health problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20   libido and gradually the residents of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   the town which include a psychiatrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   who's watching her clientele drop off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   pothead sheriff and X scream queen who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/268">TS</a>]

00:04:33   is also a paranoid schizophrenic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   and a wildlife naturalist team up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   figure out what's going on and get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   in and get the big monster back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   ocean it's SuperDuper funny humane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45   compassionate and once you read that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   can then move on to things like oh gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/288">TS</a>]

00:04:53   bite me which is about vampires living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   in San Francisco you can then move onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   the island of the sequence love none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   which is about an organ running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   operations somewhere in the southeast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   and it all culminates in creating his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   heartwarming classic about Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06   zombies called the stupidest angel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   anyway i highly recommend the less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   lizard of melancholy code it's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   fast read it's light but still touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   on themes like how people handle career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   disappointments are compromised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   how do you know that the endless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   optimism of trying to reinvent yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   and of course what you do when a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   lost lizard falls in love with a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   woman who once played on Kendra warrior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   princess of the outback wow wow that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/329">TS</a>]

00:05:33   so that's a really serious button-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   kinda low yeah only serious people read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   those books but the fact that I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   say island of the sequence love none was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   my my entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   yeah to his books I mean way way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   and it was like first out because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   literally saw the title i didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   look at the back of the book I went mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   yes Tucker the pirate oh my gosh better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/353">TS</a>]

00:05:57   and sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/357">TS</a>]

00:05:57   yeah you find out what happens to tuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   her in CP in the stupid Christmas like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   have them all lined up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   oh yeah oh yeah you're gonna like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   my later pics yeah oh oh oh my gosh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/365">TS</a>]

00:06:09   another one who I almost went for full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   because i really loved his take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   leader and I see I wanted to write that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   as a play and that came out like a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   later is acceptable board so good to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/378">TS</a>]

00:06:22   it is it the Chris but Kristen Moore's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/382">TS</a>]

00:06:26   lot like terry pratchett who are poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   showing in that as he's gotten older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   he's tackled more serious themes and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   been less a friend has been you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   still brings the funny but he's also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   afraid to to pull at your heartstrings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   and and talk about the universal Church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   is a human life and and full is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   probably at the top of the genre for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   that but I really think that if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   start with early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/409">TS</a>]

00:06:49   the first book is practical demon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   keeping which gives you a taste to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   but I really don't think he came into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   his own until less sensitive of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   melancholy cove yeah and so I would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   that and then if you want then go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   and backtracked a practical demon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   keeping which ex is kind of a prequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   and then you read that the vampire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   series which is bite me and you stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   and that are some and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/430">TS</a>]

00:07:14   one he does about the Angel of Death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   taking over San Francisco for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   bit and I can't remember that one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   top of my head and and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   there's lamb which I read almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   year around Easter so I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   guy is like a boat uh-oh of a I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   know byline vampire or something where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   like I can't see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   i I just it's it's weird I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   I've I should have heard of him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   maybe I have but it certainly didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   stick so that's cool that's a great one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   I love it when I'm completely taken by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   surprise by a choice so when Scott pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   a book about Hitler later they are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/464">TS</a>]

00:07:50   about Hitler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   yeah well and I won't be surprised and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   so i won't be impressed got all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   Lisa thank you very much let's move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   to David Lord David what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/480">TS</a>]

00:08:01   well for my first pic I'm gonna kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   cheap because i have an omnibus book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   with the trilogy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   oh yeah okay whatever it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   the rules are not first off Steve lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   here and i bedeviled him with rules and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   second we're just trying to do good here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   if someone here pick it up as an omnibus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   it's all the more convenient right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   not so much the honors several books he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   took the covers off and glued together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26   that's pretty that's a yes I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   support this one hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30   foreshadowing oh dear ok what is what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   happening already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   Scott is a very well-behaved orderly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/515">TS</a>]

00:08:40   what some might say person is true also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/520">TS</a>]

00:08:44   doing it his books about Hitler wind-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   orderly life I David you were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   pick the trilogy a trilogy called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/530">TS</a>]

00:08:53   deptford trilogy by Robertson Davies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/533">TS</a>]

00:08:57   is a Canadian novelist and I mean he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/537">TS</a>]

00:09:01   basically lived through the entire 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04   century passed away just around the turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07   of the century this year this bet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   century but even even that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   people have considered him like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   Canadian Dickens because he he writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/553">TS</a>]

00:09:18   these you just immensely detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   stories of life in Canada throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   century and this one is kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   amazing trilogy it's not even that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   first one that I got into but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   probably his best the first part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34   is called fifth business and it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   these two men who grow up in that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/577">TS</a>]

00:09:41   the beginning of the 20th century the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   end of the 19th century and one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   is sort of a scholarly gentleman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   other one is the son of a politician he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51   grows up to be a big businessman he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/591">TS</a>]

00:09:55   nasty piece of work and as children the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59   son of the politician packs a rock into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   a snowball and tries to throw it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   academic kid who ducks and it hits a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08   pregnant woman and causes her to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   labor and all three books spin out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/610">TS</a>]

00:10:15   that single incident which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18   amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/618">TS</a>]

00:10:19   so the first book is about the academic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   growing up and sort of him watching how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   the other kid is just evil and nasty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/624">TS</a>]

00:10:28   manages to become this big businessman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   the second book is from the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   view of the son of the businessman going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   through therapy trying to understand his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   father and understand what his father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   that's called the manticore and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   last book is called world of wonders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   it's about the kid who was born as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   result of the early labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   he became a hobo for a while and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   turns into a world-renowned magician and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/656">TS</a>]

00:11:00   sort of manages to get his revenge in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   the end it's amazing and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   thought that all of these bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   wonderful stories spin out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   a kid throwing a snowball just blew my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/669">TS</a>]

00:11:13   mind when i read it was canada but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/673">TS</a>]

00:11:16   kinda yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   happens all the time so snowballs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   available so so lots of beer and bacon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   and everyone says hey it's wonderful i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   was I will second to this argumentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   huh i have read all of mr. Davies novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/687">TS</a>]

00:11:31   and they are fantastic I oddly enough i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   read them because Moxie previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   canadian band song called my baby loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/696">TS</a>]

00:11:40   a bunch of authors which mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/700">TS</a>]

00:11:41   Robertson Davies that maybe look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   Robertson Davies and then I read all his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   books thanks mark service that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/705">TS</a>]

00:11:50   fantastic i have to say i mean as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   as I love this this is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53   better written trilogy i prefer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   Cornish trilogy which came much later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   he's he sort of goes exponentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   bazaar in that one so I i like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   this is a very tight really nicely done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   piece of work so alright so we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/727">TS</a>]

00:12:10   canadian author and Scott just mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/730">TS</a>]

00:12:14   the canadian band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/734">TS</a>]

00:12:15   let's move on to our panelists was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   married to a Canadian Erica what is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   selection it is a Canadian it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23   i don't think it is i'm not really sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   i don't know a whole lot about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   author but my first book is a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   called monument by a fellow named Lloyd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   bagel junior which is was published in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   1974 very old science fiction book and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/753">TS</a>]

00:12:37   know you said that we didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   have a winter theme but i actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   refer to this book as either my winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   book or my bathtub book because i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   it every single winter in the bathtub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   and it's not actually about winter at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   all it's about a planet that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   completely a paradise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   it'sit's almost entirely water it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   totally tropical there are wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   things to eat the temperature is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   perfect there sandy beaches and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   lovely and it's just kind of a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   place to escape to for me in the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   well I'm gonna warm bath it's freezing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   cold outside I think after i moved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   Edmonton i'll be reading it twice every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   year but anyway so it takes place far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/793">TS</a>]

00:13:18   far in the future when at a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   interstellar travel is kinda no big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   humans have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   analyzed all over the galaxy and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   fellow named Serrano Brian crash-lands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   his spaceship on this paradise planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   and he eventually realizes that he needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/810">TS</a>]

00:13:34   to protect it because eventually some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   big terrible nasty corporation is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   to come in and try to take over and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   ruin what these lovely natives on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   planet have everything is just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   perfect balance and he doesn't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   to get thrown off so he comes up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   plan and that's plan with a capital P [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   and i'm not going to say any more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   it than that because i actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   people to read it and it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   books that just unfolds really nicely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   didn't see the end coming maybe you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   I'm not very good at that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   so but anyway sort of hilarity ensues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   along with a healthy dose of mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   confusion frustration hopelessness it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   kind of runs the gamut goes up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   it's it's a very quick read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   it's very simple it's just kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   classic like pulpy sci-fi type story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/856">TS</a>]

00:14:20   apparently is based on a short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/860">TS</a>]

00:14:21   didn't know that until i looked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   today to prep for this but it is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   my all-time favorite books i just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   love love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   wow ok so approving that I am a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33   in great i have not heard of any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   books that you guys have talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/877">TS</a>]

00:14:37   that's great that's the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   the podcast your know it is it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   it is it's due to help out in greats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/883">TS</a>]

00:14:43   okay okay so-so get break already brace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46   yourselves because I can only imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   things are going to get even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49   impressive now when Scott McNulty makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   his selection so Scott so no prejudice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/891">TS</a>]

00:14:56   this book is about a young boy was born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   in Austria destined for great know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/898">TS</a>]

00:15:02   it is not about Hitler it is a black car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   I'm gonna pick up a book just came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   this year and it's a debut novel called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/908">TS</a>]

00:15:12   ancillary justice by Ann Leckie I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/912">TS</a>]

00:15:16   that's how I don't have scissors as last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   name but that's how I said so there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/921">TS</a>]

00:15:21   so it's a space opera it reminded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   very much of tnm banks who is dead so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/923">TS</a>]

00:15:27   won't be needing any more of his books I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   well that's true because i haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   one of the two of them so we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   really get a new is we will be producing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/936">TS</a>]

00:15:37   fair enough and its first set of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   space opera it focuses on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   character called brick who is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   in in this universe there are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/945">TS</a>]

00:15:49   artificial intelligences that run ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   which sounds very familiar true the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   culture except that which is the en banc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   sitting accept these ships all carry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   ancillary fees which are conquered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/958">TS</a>]

00:16:02   beings that this race conquerors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   freezes and then uses their bodies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   become an extension of the ship's AI so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/968">TS</a>]

00:16:12   every ship has thousands upon thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   of frozen corpses and it's hold so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   can send them off and use them as kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   of like droids and you know it'll go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   the the different parts of the ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   perform different functions so each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   the ai's breaks up its consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   into thousands of different parts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   they all act interact and act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   independently and they can all share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   their visions and so this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/994">TS</a>]

00:16:37   these ancillary that's broken off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   you don't really know why it's by itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   and its kind of trying to it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:44   mission in mind it's going after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   leader of this culture this race is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   called the radish and the leader is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   person who has broken that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   consciousness over thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   different bodies so they are on each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   the conquered planets that they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   have different palaces that they inhabit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   so it's a fascinating book and this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:07   race its language has no concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   gender and so there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   different races they the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   interacts with but aight this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   person can't really Express gender so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   you never know what the gender of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   character that they're talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   until another character addresses them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   so it's very it's a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   read and it's coming at a space opera in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:30   a different way than I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31   experienced before so check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   I've heard of that one only because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:37   think the author or wrote a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   about the the challenge of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:43   understanding artificial intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   from the perspective of that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   like multiple bodies and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   challenge of portraying that I i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   read that a few weeks ago so that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54   you should read the book i will i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   i'll do that it's the Scot MacDonald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   guarantee it exists you guarantee that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:01   should read it after that is my problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:06   I glad it's your turn what I know i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:10   a book I this book was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   recommended to me by someone who I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   terrible because they said oh if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   like these books like I think in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   episode was talking about Shiva 3000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   bhai jaan Lars jensen and celestial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   matters by Richard Garfinkel which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   could talk about a little bit later to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:27   his good books but i think i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   those another episode and they said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:30   if you like that you should read Lord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   Light by Rogers allows mean I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   that's funny I have never read any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   Rogers lastly which makes me a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   terrible science-fiction fan I because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   it does I because you should basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   have read I think Henry others are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   really laughs I'm just i'll leave now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   this podcast is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   that's right and uh I have a feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:50   that when i was younger i try to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   something and it was impenetrable I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   never came back with all that guy's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   of those you know robert silverberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   people or something and oh and so I so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1135">TS</a>]

00:19:01   picked this up again from the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:02   and it is completely fantastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   amazing and it's was written the year i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   was born won the hugo that year was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   finalist for the nebula and for best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   novel and was kind of sounds like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   basis of his career and I can see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   like that was the year he broke out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   word a bazillion books after that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   never revisited this universe so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   read it you have to content yourself at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   some level with the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   this is it like he went here once and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   was great and then he moved on to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   things so the the premise is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   written a year before birth rate 1967 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   one the next year for these words so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   premise is like those other books i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   mentioned where I can I was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   enjoying the idea of looking at science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:46   fiction through the lens of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47   pathologies and so celestial matters for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   instance it's the Greek and chinese and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   so forth like every cultures philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   about how the world works pretty our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   prior to Imperial empirical science is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00   actually literally true which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   cool so in Lord of Light it's not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   like that but it's appears to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   planet in which a new gods are walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   around there's tons of them they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   have powers and as the book goes on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   feel like i shouldn't give away too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   because it's great revelation about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   he unclear lolz layer and layer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:22   layer away until you actually understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   quite how hard a sci-fi novel this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   compared to what you think it is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   you start and I think it must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   an era when there was a really was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   wall between fantasy and sci-fi and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   feel like this is partly an attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   not pierce the wall but there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   bit but sort of weave in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   things that are best about myth-making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   and fantasy into the rocketship you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:49   super advanced science world and quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:54   quite lovely i'm so there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   that are sort of very fantasy yes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   in the middle of hard science and vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59   versa so yeah I guess I don't want it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:03   something I want to tell so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   there's two cool things about it i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   out just looking up the details one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   that george RR martin has an anecdote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   about it so we gotta bring him and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   said apparently that last he told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   that he had a single pun in his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:18   that makes you think of the entire novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   The Punisher subscribe not gonna tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   the other is that they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   make a huge huge super expensive motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:27   picture of this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   yeah in in right in the early nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   people see the movie notice and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:32   Jack's army drew all over me right crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   schedules and all that and it generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   this amazing they didn't get made and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   what is the right man that was the basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41   they use this material CIA used it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   the cover for Argyle trading right Argo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:47   Argo is drive directly from the Lord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   language p why wasnt percent but it's um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   so the reason I liked it so much though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   is it's it's a very clever in its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:58   way but it's not too smart for its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59   good like there's a lot of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02   Buddhism science fiction all crammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:07   into the thing but it's beautiful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   read and it's interesting and characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   are richly painted and his betrayal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:16   it's just you feel like he's packed 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   books and one but it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   overwritten it's just he packs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   passage of time in there really terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   Lee and I guess the other part is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   it's hard to find a novel quite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   this i don't remember reading anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:29   else that really felt like this book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:33   me where the the way in which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   characters interact with each other I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   the closest thing is now 105 anybody a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   dance Simmons van or Danson's non-fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   foreshadowing so so there's a book not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:49   the Hyperion cycle i read his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   cycle which is called ileum and ol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   impose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55   yep i'm so glad i didn't choose those ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   I'm not today but I'm not gonna bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58   that but I've read them both and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   we can talk about the rest of the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   of a person but I'm from there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   aspects that if the Hansen's must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06   read Lord of Light he must have features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   there are aspects that are extensions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   parallels of it and that's not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   the ilium in the Olympics were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   original works but but you can feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   so if you've read those books you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:18   to go read this and you just read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   anyway what I'm just wondering if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   should go back and read i hated Lord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   Light really do it he reportedly well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   they didn't have to love you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   love things I love to do that but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   like i like the den Simmons books and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   read Lord of Light when I was young and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   stupid so I'm wondering if maybe i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   should just revisit it but this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   thing i think i read little as me when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   was like 12 or 13 and I was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   azimoff I was really azimoff i say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:44   car horrible tone is up yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   that guy as my fully wrote seven hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   thousand books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   actually I made him picked it picked an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   episode 99 but yeah that's true i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54   to pick the Foundation series again I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   yeah so you're always reading a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57   that is the last day compared to azimoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   way to Z not intentional you'd say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:03   wow this guy doesn't know what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   doing it so forward and what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   you don't know anything and now 30-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   years later like I have an understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   of mythology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   I like the incredible rich layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   delusion that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   meaningless to me so I don't know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   think i would not identify like i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   think i read this one but i bet i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   the last me back then because I'm shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   away from you probably read the amber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   chronicles remember that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   yeah that was his most popular stop by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   far i started with that and then went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   to Lord of Light was like oh this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   not a shame i don't like this at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   see and I'm a big Dan Simmons fan and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37   actually read ileum and didn't pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   and that's essentially one book split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   into two volumes and I did you pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   vol.2 I was like net now I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   completely you're completely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   killing myself I didn't didn't sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   the completest certain level i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:51   like these parts of story one element as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   extensions like oh ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   oh that's that conduct completed thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   is the worst i have read so many crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   series all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   I think we did a podcast about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   least yes well i like what you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   talking about doing because i read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   know I've read like 14 do novels and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   will not read the other 300 you no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   you can we draw the line right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   should be getting good at 295 yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:15   yeah they get that's what they told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   about the oh they're gonna be so mad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   me when I say this about that the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   butcher uh what's it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   Oh Harry drapery dressed and novels know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   he got a reading for grilling everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   the great not really honest when I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   it's not that great me said no no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   gets better I'm like I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   believe you know as you said they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   great numbers one good so yeah yeah same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:38   people people confuse that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   confuse the cumulative satisfaction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   and cross in the thrill of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   connection between different books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   that whole haha i know something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   this whole series with the thrill of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:48   picking up the book for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   getting sucked into the world or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   there's some amortization is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   more people who read this the less less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   painful it'll be for any individual one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   tonight haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   oh no my speedo psychic anguish of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   reading a book book vampire series book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   vampires is what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   okay so I'm gonna go because I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   the last night Jason and we were just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   this black asses over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10   no we were just talking about Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   Simmons and believe it or not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   actually is what i am picking up picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   a dance in trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   dan simmons is well known for his wife I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   we talked about the hyperion books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   before we just mentioned ilium he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   something he's really kind of a genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   krauser he's got some horror books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   he's written in some fantasy and so of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   course i'm going to pick his one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   completely mainstream non jon renau [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   novel which is called phases of gravity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   i mentioned before it is okay it is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   of my favorite books of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   it's about an astronaut who it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:49   set in the eighties I think was written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:50   in the eighties who loses loses a people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:54   close to him in the Challenger disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   he is rethinking his life there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:02   are hints of of that this might be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:06   of a John ristori at and but really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:10   not in the end not to give too much away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   I mean it really is a story about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   guy trying to think about his life he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   you know he was an astronaut he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   in space I think he walked on the moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   but he's retired he's lost these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:23   and he's really wondering what the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   of his entire life is and it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   beautiful story I mean I hate to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   it's a beautiful tale of love and loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   but you know that that's the Sun that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:37   the summary on Goodreads and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   that's what it is it is that and um and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   I try to read this every you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   15 years or something like that i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   a big reader books but I I find it kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   beautiful and I also he's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   writer and I found this this novel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:55   know it's appealing because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   writing and and I also felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   personally significant to Dan Simmons in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   some way that he was he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   about some themes that maybe he felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   like he didn't want to wrap around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   horror novel or a sci-fi novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   and and yet because it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   astronauts and people who died in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   shuttle explosion and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   it has a lot of elements that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   very familiar to readers of sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   especially and people who are so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   science nerds and and I'm I'm those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   people so those people so it works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30   me on that level even though i did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   you know it is not it's not what it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:35   think anyone should call a sci-fi novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   it really is just sort of a mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37   novel and it's beautiful and i love it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   lot and I i encourage people to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   it's not really well known at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   probably the oddball of his entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   output as a novelist and it is it is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:49   favorite I do love Hyperion quite a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   but faces of gravity is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   dance Simmons novel i'm so glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   recommended one because I vowed to never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   read it again but your recommendation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   strong i will read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   hyperion i think is one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   science fiction novels ever written any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04   angers me so much everything else he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   written so i may have to go read that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   try to get the taste of fall arrives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   Endymion out of my mouth haha but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:15   also wrote a historical thriller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   oh yes drewd which I enjoyed greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   isn't it features a Charles Dickens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:25   wilkie collins who is the author of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   first of many consider the first mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   novel as an unreliable narrator and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   quite good i also like his the creek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   factory which is about the it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   loosely based on the spy ring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41   Ernest Hemingway set up when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   living in Cuba totally different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:46   everything else again so dances just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   turns out like he's gotta dial he spins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51   the wheel and then the something stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   that's pretty amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   yeah yeah yeah let's take a moment away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57   from reading to talk about more reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1797">TS</a>]

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00:30:17   Lex thanks for being in the commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1817">TS</a>]

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00:30:21   this commercial couldn't show up for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   actual episode could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   you know is after my bedtime when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   today I know the book Bob you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   telling me about this that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   this is a way to discover books that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   love and you get a deal on ebooks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   write what's what's great about book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   club is we know I research them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   they came to me and said hey we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   sponsor some podcasts and then before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   ever sold the many podcast ads like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   very ad i became a customer and used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   literally every day since i first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   discovered it so the way it works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:48   they send you it they send you emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   with alerts about like free and bargain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   ebooks that that are that you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   interested in right you tell them a what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   kind of books you like and be what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   of readers you have so for me it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/1860">TS</a>]

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00:37:41   name of the organization's on the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   floor he's got the storyline about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   they have bumper stickers on the stair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   riser so that by the time you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   office you're both out of breath and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   thoroughly indoctrinated and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   this beautiful it's just like he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   an entire chapter devoted to commuting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   in boston on my bike that has to be read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:57   to be believed and if you've ever been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   to boston or try driving in that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   like always the doctor later yeah yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03   think if i have a theme for tonight's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   books it's gateways to the author where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   were these are the types of things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   you dip your toes in and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   okay I like this guy and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   and then you can get more into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   work and they may not be the best known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   thing these people have done but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:15   that the most accessible to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   who haven't read them yet and i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19   recommend zodiac for anybody who I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:23   like fantasy or aromatic sapphire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   like tech stuff because this isn't about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   that this is simply about a guy trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   to do his job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29   how many of those people are listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   to this podcast although Kari I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   some for I have some friends who looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:35   they should all listen because they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   what to do I don't know to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   something put it on their beginning put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   in their stocking that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   saying put it in their styling just slip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   in their stuff and be like what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   book is it astrology related in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   you could happen as I love that stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51   have some blending but i'll save it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   my turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:53   okay well as you should look into any no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   Glenn I never stretched anticipated no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   grading policy sony has part of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   earlier work so it's before he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   famous that they couldn't cut anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   out of his books yeah it's less than 800 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   pages long yeah it has an ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   everything it's it's it's fast and funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   and smart and it has a clear moral point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   of view and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   and yes yeah and attending yes yes good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:19   zodiac that good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   David you're up well couple years ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   wrote he play about Vincent van Gogh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   ah yeah you see the foreshadowing pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   you recommending we read your play not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   haha watching now available no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   soon-to-be kick-started know but yeah as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:39   a result i pick up books and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   about Van Gogh now because I have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   this knowledge stuck in my head and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   interesting and I go oh wow they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   that right they got the wrong like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49   I watched in sending the doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   going oh wow you could have done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   really like true-to-life but you screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   that up but that's okay because it's dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   fun and this is a book and I love doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:02   just saying this book by christopher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:06   moore is the maybe the one that Lisa did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   not mention his most recent novel called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   sacrifice clear yes a comedy data to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:17   there's a theory in its in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:21   recent gigantic van Gogh biography which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24   is actually very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25   there's a theory that he did not commit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   suicide that he was murdered and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   authors of the biography go into really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   interesting detail you go well alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   that's not implausible and lo and behold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   just after that came out came Sacrebleu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   where the idea is that Vincent's friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:44   a baker turned painter and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   friend of his toulouse-lautrec basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   act as holmes and watson to solvang goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   murder because he talks about having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   been pressed pursued around france by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   crooked little color man and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   become deathly afraid of a a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   shade of blue a sacred blue and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:07   just nuts in that way that christopher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   moore can be but again it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   it's like fool it's a much more mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   much more assured novel he's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   weaving in all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   real-life detail and he does an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   excellent job documenting like he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   blog just for this book it's filled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   the book and the blog or both filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   with pictures and filled with here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   where this incident came from here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   where this is set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   here's where this idea came from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   he's just woven it all together in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   really funny really good thriller but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:44   really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   sacre bleu alright well to from Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   Christopher more to from the guy whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   is whose name I could never even recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   so wow big changes afoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:56   let's move on to Erica what do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   okay well I don't have a series exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03   it was really hard for me to just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:06   three books because there are very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   standalone books that I even read much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   alone let alone like a lot so what i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:13   was i I picked a series and then pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   the first book in the series and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   figure that's a good thing to start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   and then if if you don't like that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   then don't read the rest of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22   but if you do then you've got some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   awesome books in front of you and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   great is that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28   Robin hobb is one of my favorite fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   authors of the last several decades and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   she's actually written a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   trilogies i guess but the book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   want to talk about is the first book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   the second trilogy that takes place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   sort of in this same world the book i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   talking about is ship of magic and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:51   really really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:52   it's the first book of the live ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   traders trilogy that's the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   trilogy as i mentioned and it follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   the divestment family of being town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:02   this vested family owns a live ship in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   live ship is a ship that's made of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   magical wizard would and once three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   generations of family captains have died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   onboard the ship the figurehead actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   comes to life and has a personality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   toxin stuff and it's just very magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19   and cool and only live ships in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   world can travel up the rain wild river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   to trade with the mysterious rain wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   families who trade fabulous and magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   goods that you can't find anywhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   that's sort of setting the stage that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   that's where in the world in which this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   takes place but there are really two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   stories that are taking place throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   the book kind of in parallel so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   story is following the best rate family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   the old captain is dying at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   beginning of the book and his daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   Althea is is fairly young but she thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   she's going to inherit the ship because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   she's been sailing on it since she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   youngster and is very connected and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   bonded with this live ship but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   things don't turn out quite as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   planned things can go awry for her from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:04   there and it's sort of follows her her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   journey and also a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   what happens with her family as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   works to get her life ship back but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   the same time there's also another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   parallel story that seems completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   unconnected there's a pirate captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   named candidate who is looting pillaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   left and right but he wants to capture a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   live ship for himself and he's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:28   terrible character but accidentally does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   some good things sort of a know we hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:34   if it's kind of an interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   everybody the people that follow him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   begin thinking that he's this wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   character but really he's just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   everything selfishly for himself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   accidents make it look like he's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   wonderful fellow so i want to say too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   much more about it than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   honestly I don't usually date books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   about pirates I'm not a good pirate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   thing and I don't think clearly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   don't forget our really like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   politics which comes into things later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   in the trilogy there are some but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   very interesting sort of political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:05   machinations in this this town in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   of the country's pirate politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   yeah there are pirate politics in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   and those are two things I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   usually like think that the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   of being pirates would be that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   reacted but it is it is a very good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:22   I i like this particular trilogy of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   the best is that the first trilogy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   the Farseer trilogy and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   another one after this one which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   think the tiny man trilogy and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   actually just recently wrote a tetralogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   which i haven't yet right but i got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   for Christmas early so i'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   getting to that but so far this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   series of books that take place in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   the big town area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   out-of-this-world I think the warmest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   of the the trilogy's and i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   think it's perhaps because the setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   is just a little bit more colorful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   the one thing I didn't touch on was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   in addition to these two things there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   sort of a loose framing device that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   of pops in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   that's told from the point of view of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   these giant serpent creatures that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   just sort of like swimming under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   water and it doesn't make a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   sense until later in the trilogy so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12   won't say much about that but it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15   really really cool they're sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   ancient secrets that are become coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   to light later on down the road and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   highly recommend giving it a try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   then but it ends on a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   cliffhanger so be ready for that but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   you haven't enjoyed the first book then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   it doesn't make sense to keep going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   you're not really anything by jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   out at that point right shift with magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   good 1i haven't heard of that one either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   so it's on the list and it brings us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   Scott yeah I'm surprised and happy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:45   went after Erica last time it shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   be that big a shock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48   well I thought there was a sneaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   round thing in my own very confused by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   this draft format you can pick a snake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   related book if you like but oh alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   well pick two serpents rise by Max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   Gladstone actually on my list so hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:05   you're worried about you Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   haha i'm ready for any animal reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   with my list of books figure capybara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   so this is the second in a series kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:17   of loosely grouped together series so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   you can read them in any order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   series is the craft series and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   max Gladstone envisions a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:29   there is there were gods that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   actual things right and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   magical and followers and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   powers and they basically took care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   the world and humans kind of slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   figured out how to craft magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   themselves and overthrew the gods killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:48   a bunch of them trapped some of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   kind of siphon off the power to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   bunch of things and basically he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   imagines if there is this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   then there must be bureaucrats that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   this world so the first book called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:04   three parts dead is about a lawyer firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07   that specializes basically in DD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   arbitrage and so this this deity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   this town is using to power everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   is slowly dying and many towns kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:19   have claims over different parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   Gods so they hire this lawyer firm to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   kind of settle it down the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   is set in a different city this up i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   not making itself but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:31   craziest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   oh that's right go ahead the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   to surface rise is set in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   city in the same world where there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   this character called the Red King who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   has a company called Red King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   consolidated that owns the rights to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   supply water to the city and the cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   in the desert and he read the Red King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   is a powerful human magician who killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:57   the god of this city and kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   immortality but in the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   transforms himself into a walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   skeleton and he also loves to drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   coffee and the main character is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:10   his his troubleshooter called Caleb who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:14   has to figure out what's happening with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   this reservoir where an explosion has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   happened and he has to figure out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   then the water takes some demonic forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:27   and starts attacking people which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   negatively impacts the company and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   the Red King is upset because he feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   like he's going to lose this city's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   water contract because the water is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   attacking people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   so he needs to get it figured out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   that is basically the story of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   and it is just delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   wow that's another book I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   heard of that's pretty wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   but she's a few things that come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:49   see the 3000 not a ton but if you liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   this book you might also like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   alright good job Scott thanks top tackle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   oh also taken by surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:02   what's this is a not that complicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   format go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   my friend so I'm recommending a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   this is nonfiction and it is written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   a friend of mine my editor at The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   Economist Tom Standage order book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   am really enjoying and I'm not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   saying that he Tom as in so either i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   fortunate enough to meet mr. Stevenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   and beat his house because there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24   little book reception for comedy pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:25   through town on a book tour for this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   book is called writing on the wall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   Tom writes these books that are about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   why nothing is new again they should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   be called like they're there is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:36   new Under the Sun or something because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   there are there explain the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   what we think is new now and we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   we're sort of sorting through in society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   but turns out has remarkably similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   underpinnings and echoes back through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   history even when it seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   technology could exists so writing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   the wall is it's the subtitle is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   social networking the first two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   years and it is it's really charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   even if you have a good grasp of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   and I might Roman history isn't so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:06   but there's basically like before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   printing presses Romans even at distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   outposts and all these you know slaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   and scribes who would write copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   things all the time and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   circulating letters the Romans had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   incredible distribution system before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   the male's so people were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   sending blog and she's packing force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   across the Appian Way and it was it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30   is hilarious and so you read this you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   like okay this is actually he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   really stretching the case like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   would write stuff and then they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   annotate it and they returned it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   they market with comments and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   come back and they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   redistributed and people get angry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   very political fights and flame wars all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   the people writing out by you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   longhand in some of the scribes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   particularly well-liked because they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   developed their own shorthand system so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   they could take notes more quickly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   some were very fast and people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:55   particularly wealthy could have a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   ppl transcribing constantly to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   these things and so it starts there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   it goes through lecture of every era in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   which we sort of think well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   before this or oh well newspapers did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   this and he talks about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   consolidation of social media into mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   media and then what he thinks is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   glorious you know not perfect but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   reopening of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   consolidation from all this interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   among people even newspapers for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   time really newspapers were mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   publishing dispatches and letters from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:25   other people they do their own reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   so they were actually quite social in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   their own way even though there are mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   method of distribution so lovely book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   and all Thomas books are actually quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   neat victorian internet the mechanic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   look about the mechanical turk the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   chess-playing machine all kinds these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   guys just wonderful books about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   peek beneath the surface of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   think was going on in society or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   technology and and this is his latest so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   it's a little bit of I'm sorry little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   bit of nepotism but I'm sure I'm sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3172">TS</a>]

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01:01:41   had an affair with his sister was now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3701">TS</a>]

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01:01:57   history during the Renaissance the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3717">TS</a>]

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01:02:11   and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   point your political ideologies become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3732">TS</a>]

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01:02:21   seem to be rooted in our own world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3741">TS</a>]

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01:02:42   want to recommend a trilogy because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3762">TS</a>]

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01:02:51   guy and then if you do you can jump into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:52   the trilogy which has like crazy our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3772">TS</a>]

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01:03:12   or your expectations accordingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   yeah I kind of this complaint about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3794">TS</a>]

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01:03:29   work the language has almost become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3809">TS</a>]

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01:03:33   he has a younger writer and part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3813">TS</a>]

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01:03:49   successful writers later yeah oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   now they did they get successfully like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3831">TS</a>]

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01:03:56   description about a fine leather shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3838">TS</a>]

01:03:59   alright David it's your turn okay I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   just gonna start with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3841">TS</a>]

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01:04:08   to begin reading Italo Calvino's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   novel if on a winter's night a traveler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   relax concentrate but the world around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   you fade best close the door the TV is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   always on in the next room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   tell the others know I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   watch TV raise your voice they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25   yell I'm beginning to read Italo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   Calvino's new novel or if you prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   don't say anything and just hope they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   leave you alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3872">TS</a>]

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01:04:38   my mind and changed the way I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   about what you could do with fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3880">TS</a>]

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01:04:49   second person present tense so it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:53   are doing this and eventually you meet a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56   woman and she is also a reader but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59   alternating chapters are chapters of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01   books that the two of you are reading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:04   and each one is a different genre each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07   one breaks off at a really climactic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:10   exciting moment and then the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   the the two of you are drawn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:17   mysterious plot involving books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:20   mystery and intrigue and the elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   the different chapters start working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   their way into the reality of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:27   and eventually you fall in love you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:30   married at the very end she says turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   off your light aren't you tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   reading and you say just a moment I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   almost finished if on a winter's night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   to travel by italo calvino it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3937">TS</a>]

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01:05:51   do something else but it is it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3951">TS</a>]

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01:06:12   writer is well translated I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   transitions are like the readable they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3975">TS</a>]

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01:06:30   vote the polls to prevent fraud it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/3990">TS</a>]

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01:06:46   repeat himself every book is its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4006">TS</a>]

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01:08:09   to say about my second selection but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   reason I forgot ties into my third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   well yes if you can buy time together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   you've saved me lots of editing time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   great you're welcome i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   about Jenna so that the one thing that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   forgot was that the these books by robin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:28   hobb contain one of actually think tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   for my favorite fictional character ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   of all time and I can't say what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:36   character's name is because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   ever really find out in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   trilogy i mentioned this character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40   known as just the fool and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   a a teenage a youth us you are led to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:48   believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:49   that this character is male but then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   the second in the second series you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   this kind of mysterious woman named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   amber who they never explicitly say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   eventually pretty quickly you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4138">TS</a>]

01:08:59   come to figure out oh this is the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   of character just dressed up as a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   and looking and acting somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   differently and then the third trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   shows back up in the original country as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:10   the fool again and I just in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:13   being a strangely genderless character I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:16   just think it very wise and centered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:20   grounded character which I just love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   I i adore the fact that the gender in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   this situation is they both is and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29   not important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   sort of kind of is important locally to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   the characters that are surrounding him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   her at any given time but overall this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:38   character is just wonderful and lovable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   and important and it really doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   any difference whatsoever what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   underneath the trousers and i just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   that's kind of a great thing so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   had to throw that in there because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:49   forgot and out the reason that i forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   is because instead of writing up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   notes like I meant to before this I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   watching an adventure in space and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   which is a duck a docudrama about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:01   creation of Doctor Who back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:02   sixties and it was wonderful i won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   spoil anything but made a show guys it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:08   was really cool my third choice i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   actually got taking a bit of a left turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   here and gone with something non fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   which for me is even weirder than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   pirate book because I almost never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   nonfiction it's just not my thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   it is the 50th anniversary year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   Doctor Who so I've kind of been gloating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   myself on Doctor Who stuff both fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   and nonfiction so my third pic is a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   called chicks unravel time women journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   through every season of doctor who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   it is an edited full disclosure edited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38   by deborah Standish and LM miles who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   two of my co-hosts on the very podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   so I'm a little bit biased here but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   think that even if I wasn't it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   still be i think i would still love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   book it was actually nominated for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   best related work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:53   hugo award this year so i'm not alone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   thinking that it's freaking awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:57   so it's a collection of essays about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   of the seasons of Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   not including the most recent series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   seven because it wasn't out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   can I don't think maybe six isn't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   there either but anyway it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:09   collection of all these essays all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   them written by women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:12   some of them are examinations of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   the social commentary in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   possibly women's issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   gender race some of the essays are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:21   little more light and fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   one of them is actually called david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:24   tennant's bomb which is awesome how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   NSA or the or the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   yeah i'm just going to say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:33   all right but if that particular one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   very nice it's one of the lighter more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   fun ones but it actually still sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   gets to to the point of that's a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   to the new series Dave attendance for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   series and talking about how this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   of sexy doctor brought in a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   of new fans who were kind of coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51   the show because he was good-looking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:54   then discovering all of the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   that are wonderful about the doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   bring them in and I just thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   was pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:01   so there are all kinds of essays some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   them are very sort of like dense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   more sciency some of them are just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   of easy reading and fun but they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   really good and one of the things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:12   especially liked about this book is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15   it's not in chronological order which at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   first my nerd brain was like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   what were you thinking but they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   did something smart with it they took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   and kind of form it together so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:27   sort of tells a story so now if you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   the book from the beginning to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   it really flows and I mean of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   don't have to you can go through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   like pick out all right season 1 season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   2 etc but it really works the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   they they pieced it together and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:40   that it's wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   so I think this was this one would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:43   it's fun to read and it also makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   really good stocking stuffer for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   doctor who fan in your family i may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:51   using it myself in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   uh Scott mcnulty it's your turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:56   so the theme of my books which perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:59   would be only noticeable to me since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:03   the theme is booked Scott has read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   year I continues with my next book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:09   because i have in fact read this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   year it is by Peter F have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   person who also writes these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   sweeping space opera books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:20   this one is not a sweeping space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:24   operates his most recent book the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   north road which some people hate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:29   liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   it's a almost 900 pages long because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:34   that's what Peter F Hamilton does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:37   it's about it's basically a murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   mystery and I may have spoken about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:42   on a previous episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   uncomfortable and it includes many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   other things that Peter F Hamilton likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   to write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:50   he enjoys having portals that connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:54   different worlds that you are go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:57   with in vehicles so one of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   features trains that go to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   worlds through these portals this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   just features the Great North Road which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   is a row that you can drive your car up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08   through and then you go through a portal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   and you're on a different planet and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   in this book there's the North family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   that is a family that has cloned it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   the head of the family one of the clones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:22   was murdered horribly on a planet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   creates a biofuel that the earth depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:27   on 20 years ago and was never solved but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:31   it was blamed on this particular woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   character but she escaped she actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:37   didn't escape she was a put in prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   but she claims she didn't do it and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   alien killed the sky believer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44   aliens didn't no one has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:45   encountered an alien in this universe so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48   they thought she was crazy and also for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   some reason she never ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:51   so that kind of confuses people and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   20 years later she's safely ensconced in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:57   prison and on earth someone is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:00   one of these clones is horribly murdered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   in similar in the exact same way and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:06   detective is called in to kind of figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   out like a local English detective who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   is just wanting to you know make ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12   meat is pulled into this kind of web of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   intrigue that involves the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:18   most powerful family in this universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   and this weird person that he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   really trust and he has to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   different planet and figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:26   going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   it's pretty good it is i will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   the first if you don't like a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   detective novels the first 200 pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:36   this book probably will not be for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   but if you if you stick to it it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:42   ramp up the action and a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   science fiction is in there the last 700 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   pages they really make up for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:50   two all right Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:51   alright that's good that's got the again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   it's the Scott melted guarantee that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   is a book he liked and read the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   with your bookie that no I liked it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:01   guarantee it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4561">TS</a>]

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01:16:05   Glenn it's your turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4565">TS</a>]

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01:16:14   Scott create wiki entries for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   books that he's suggesting this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:17   around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:18   hey they seem all made up but i'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21   to go read them because they're so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   today they're so they they are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   fiction so they are in fact all may know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   it's not by scott it's not double blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:30   so i have a book by a Seattle other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:34   Seattle author Neal Stephenson being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   CL other matt rough wrote this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   called mirage that came out first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4598">TS</a>]

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01:16:46   relatively few novels he spends years on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4606">TS</a>]

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01:16:57   cultures so we're not reading the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4617">TS</a>]

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01:17:04   don't want to tell you too much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4624">TS</a>]

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01:17:36   something shifted and the Arab world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   wound up as the superpower and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:41   running things with with the same sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   of conflicts that they have today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:46   muted because they're in charge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:47   sectarian unrest and and so forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:51   United States a bunch of really messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   up little contingents of fundamentalisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4673">TS</a>]

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01:18:02   right in this world which is why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4682">TS</a>]

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01:18:06   too much because it's sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4686">TS</a>]

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01:18:16   things that even when everything is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4696">TS</a>]

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01:18:26   better than some people walk away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   summer just left it was a bloody mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30   the meddling like I don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4710">TS</a>]

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01:18:41   little wrapper and you may or may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44   satisfied with it always i think some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4724">TS</a>]

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01:18:49   of a magical realism / more fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:52   writer than say sci-fi or no realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4732">TS</a>]

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01:19:14   crazy and also i'm sorry we're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4754">TS</a>]

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01:19:18   on for a story inside he's really part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4758">TS</a>]

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01:19:28   but I i read a fool on the hill was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4768">TS</a>]

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01:19:32   published first and he that was set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4772">TS</a>]

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01:19:38   university and she she had and i read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:41   and i really love this charming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4781">TS</a>]

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01:19:47   also so if you like Tolkien for the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49   is kind of neat and anyway so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4789">TS</a>]

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01:19:55   because you're reading in your heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4795">TS</a>]

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01:20:04   son-in-law is there of course but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   have the former leader of Libya Muammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4805">TS</a>]

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01:20:12   like all of question is the al gore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   book and anyway it's it's not a romp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   it's pretty serious and very violent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   spots but he somehow manages to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   very interesting and charming and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:23   liked it comes up you read it i did read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   it you like the good i spoke about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   an episode of the uncomfortable is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:30   want to yes in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31   oh thanks for listening Glenn yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:36   well I'll close up a third-round and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   then what we wanted them done with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4838">TS</a>]

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01:20:41   things that we were left that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4841">TS</a>]

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01:20:44   really quickly and you can throw at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:45   other things to plug if people read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   of these books they can move on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:51   ancillary auxiliary I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   whatever selections ladies around let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:54   close my let me close close this up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4854">TS</a>]

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01:21:00   theme is things that aren't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:01   science fictional but but uh have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:04   sort of tie this is a this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:07   extremely obscure book in that it won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:11   the purulent surprise whatever but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:15   going to recommend it because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4875">TS</a>]

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01:21:23   Pulitzer Prize i'm still gonna recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   because I don't know if our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   have read this book and they should it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   not like they're taking their medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:30   when they read this book okay and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   it's my theme so i'm also gonna toss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   in here because it's my favorite The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:35   Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and clay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:36   by michael chabon I've i recommended in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39   many many many times are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   recommend it again its story so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   two characters roughly modeled on siegel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   and shuster who were the inventors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   Superman but it's actually got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4909">TS</a>]

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01:21:53   book creators from the the forties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4913">TS</a>]

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01:22:03   Golden Age comic book creators it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4923">TS</a>]

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01:22:11   Hitler's in it Scott and I've read it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4931">TS</a>]

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01:22:33   Jewish stories about things like golems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/4953">TS</a>]

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01:23:36   was affected by world war two and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5016">TS</a>]

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01:25:02   Michael Chabon speak with David Mitchell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5102">TS</a>]

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01:25:46   ways novel it was fantastic yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5146">TS</a>]

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01:25:57   of really fun shandra pulpy adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5157">TS</a>]

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01:26:03   ripping total of its like thrilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5163">TS</a>]

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01:26:27   hornby and michael chabon in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:30   podcast I'm i'm doing pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5190">TS</a>]

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01:26:55   off the dark musical and so this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58   inside story of working with julie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   taymor Bono and the edge and how it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5220">TS</a>]

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01:27:14   think he realizes quite how he comes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5234">TS</a>]

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01:27:30   so little earlier than the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32   it is a science fiction private eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5252">TS</a>]

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01:27:37   teleportation so it's pretty cool it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5257">TS</a>]

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01:27:42   it and the non-fiction book is of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45   another doctor who book which just came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   out this year for the 50th anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5267">TS</a>]

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01:28:52   Carthage and its relationship with Rome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5332">TS</a>]

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01:28:59   at the Roman Senate he would end every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   speech no matter what he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5341">TS</a>]

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01:29:04   destroyed because he just hated the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:07   of Carthage as fascinating book it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5347">TS</a>]

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01:29:22   inexplicable hatred of cartridge really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5362">TS</a>]

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01:29:29   everything so it's a fascinating book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:30   Glenn what do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5370">TS</a>]

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01:29:46   hundred day intervals and he piped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5386">TS</a>]

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01:29:50   ago responded two i think as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:53   mentioning his book and I cited inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5393">TS</a>]

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01:30:05   believe Kavalier and clay came out not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07   long after and I think it might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:08   gotten lost in the show there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   magician angle to this and it's michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5410">TS</a>]

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01:30:15   know but it's a great book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:16   the other thing I was gonna mention is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17   another nonfiction that I really struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5417">TS</a>]

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01:30:21   by Robert early which is about the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5421">TS</a>]

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01:30:26   book of wonderful photographs that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   went out and shot with large format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5428">TS</a>]

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01:30:40   and by the end he said I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   blacksmith carrying around bellows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5442">TS</a>]

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01:37:16   comfortable and everybody here I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:18   your host Jason still see you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZmyJTs/5838">TS</a>]