The Talk Show

00:00:00 ◼   ► oh boy Oh once you start locking [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► everything down wow did you unlock cask [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► you a question yeah you can ask me any [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► to you do you um we cut this out do you [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► unlock your Mac with your watch I do Wow [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► but I don't wear my I don't wear my [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► watch every day but it's one of my [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► favorite features in it at it's actually [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► one of the main motivators for me to [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► wear my watch because I love that [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► feature so much I do I trust it it in [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► and I find that it works amazingly it [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► works you know I'm over eighty percent [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► of the time which is good but a man's [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► switch in it was a good excuse to [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► finally switch over from to step 2 to [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► factor wow that's a heck of a thing I'm [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► glad I did it and I gotta tell you I put [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► it off for a long time I only did it [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► several weeks ago uh there was like an [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► update to I forget if it was a mac OS [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► update or an iOS update where one of the [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► features was hey you know we came out [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► with this unlock your Mac feature with [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► your watch back in October whatever but [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► we made it really fast now and I was [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► like you know when I gotta try i've been [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► putting this off and i put it off [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► because I didn't have the two-factor I [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► had to step am I saying it right yeah [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► yeah the two-step I mean I didn't tell [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► you the spec on this but the if you [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► tried if you're trying to determine [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► which one you have running right now [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► well it's probably two step and I think [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► the easiest way to tell and correct me [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► if i'm wrong i'm sure people will with [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► two step you get an SMS message with a [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► four-digit code with two factor you get [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► a like a more official looking like iOS [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► pop-up right and a six digit code right [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► it is switching over switching over is [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► who you want to not be having a holiday [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► party when you switch over to two factor [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► I've been one night I got I got a [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► macbook adorable and I thought okay I'll [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► give this a spin and so I thought you [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► know Oh watching TV watching TV set up [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► to factor and I was trying to be that [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► guy I'm trying to be like security guys [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► so like I don't leave iCloud I don't [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► tick the button to keep me logged in [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► i'm on a mac with iCloud I don't know [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► why it's just a dumb superstition but so [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► if memory serves you got to go in you [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► have to first you have to shut off this [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► is totally like Tom Cruise coming down [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► the line like you land right before you [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► hit the floor so you gotta log in and in [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► my case so I got a fact to factor in [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► right to to site to steppin now I to [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► step in okay not a problem have some [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► drinks set up to factor no problem so so [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► far so good I to two step in and first [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► you gotta shut off to step like this not [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► only makes sense first you have to shut [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► off to step and then to turn on [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► two-factor and there might be another [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► two step at that point to make sure you [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► want to shut off to step but in any case [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► then you get to where you have to put in [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► three security questions and optionally [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► I think a phone number and so on that [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► guy right so like I don't have the box [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► ticked over here I got one password oh [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► by the way and I was trying to do this [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► on an iPad so initially and so I and [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► then eventually I moved to the to the [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► macbook adorable but point being I'm I'm [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► not going to put in like the name of my [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► high school I'm not going to put in my [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► favorite band or whatever i have my own [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► way of doing this by using a [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► non-conventional answer to that but i [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► want to get it exactly right so i type [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► all of them into one password and then [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► i'm copying and pasting them I I hate [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► those security questions because I I [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► have a podcast and on a podcast I might [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► occasionally I might tell a story about [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► my first grade teacher like absolutely I [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► told stories about my my crazy dog [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► Chester and growing up who used to who [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► my name is definitely John Gruber my dog [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► is Chester even reset everything he was [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► a great dog I can't help it tell stories [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► about him but I mean those shins I don't [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► like those questions at all either isn't [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► it that stuff seems awful and because [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► everybody I know who's actually been [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► hacked has been hacked through all right [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► I think so i think this is true that [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► everybody I know has had any kind of [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► problems with [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► you know the hijinks that these things [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► are meant to to defend against was [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► hacked through with a social engineering [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► social engineer I was going to say [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► social manipulation but you know that [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► the mat Honan problem right exactly [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► somebody just calls up and says I'm John [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► Gruber and oh yeah my first grade [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► teacher so and so and the dog was named [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► Chester and and you know boom then [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► they're in I had an additional problem [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► with the switch from to step 2 to factor [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► with iCloud where well numbered the [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► whole thing it is a mess and I don't [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► even know how I got into this situation [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► where I'm one of the people who've got [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► to iCloud things where I've got the one [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► that I used where I to Apple IDs one me [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► to want one for my stuff and one for my [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► media oh yeah so when i buy stuff it's [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► with its it's with a different account [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► and when that's my old i still have my [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► old like I think mac com or me calm oh [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► no what is was that I even have a third [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► Apple ID which isn't even an email [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► address it's just a name which is from [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► Alba developer connection it was like an [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► ADC account that I set up in like [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► nineteen ninety-eight but like back then [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► it was like they didn't use email is [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► like your identifier they just let you [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► pick a name and so I've still got that [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► and and there's certain things that if I [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► go through a DC they're like you need to [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► you need to upgrade this account to an [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► email address but the problem is that [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► the two email addresses that I most like [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► to use with it are all already Apple IDs [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► so I came anyway but that program I ran [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► into was i turn off to step and it is [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► weird it is like first step turn off all [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► your security on your account right [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► second step go through this and then go [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► in and like on iOS you go to like [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► settings iCloud click your name and then [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► there's like turn on two-factor [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► authentication except I would follow [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► those steps and go there and there was [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► no button that said turn on two-factor [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► authentication and then I would go on [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► the mac and on the mac you go to the [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► settings or system prefs and there's the [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► same type thing and there's a button and [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► there was a button to turn on two-factor [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► authentication and i would click that [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► button and [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► would spin not for a long time but like [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► for like you know like the six or seven [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► seconds you would think that it would [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► take for this to like phone home to [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► apple and an apple would you know figure [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► out how to do this and then it would [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► politely tell me that two factor [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► authentication cannot be turned on for [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► this account you know but you know how [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► it is though you having a holiday party [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► you want to increase your security and [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► I'm like a terrier I'm like on the one [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► hand I'm like I'm gonna get this done I [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► can I know I can do this and then it [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► becomes like a video game where I'm [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► liking just just to cut to the chase [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► here uh I'm going to tell you how many [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► times I tried to do this and each time [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► by the time i got the end to make it go [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► I was timed out on the website because i [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► hadn't ticked the button and then I'm [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► like okay you know what that's fine [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► we're going to do a speed run of this [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► let's see if I can do this and finish it [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► without having to take that button [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► because now i'm mad and I never I never [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► could pull it off and then of course I [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► think okay you're getting your hands [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► perilously close to the dragon's mouth [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► at this point wait till tomorrow morning [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► wait till the holiday party is over do [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► this in the clear light of day and I did [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► tick the button and it did work and then [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► of course everything's blowing up on all [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► the voices letting me know that you know [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► all these things are available in all [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► these places but I don't know it's just [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► it's another one of those things where [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► far from I guess security theater I mean [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► this is such an important thing for all [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► of us to be working on but it is not [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► super consumer friendly well I said I [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► think I I think Apple deserves some [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► praise for its because I think they're [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► more or less doing the right thing and I [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► think now that I have it working I I do [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► like the way that it works and I like [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► the new advanced like you said like it [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► looks like instead of just getting a [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► text message or an iMessage or whatever [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► it is with a code you get like a real [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► nice dialogue and it even has a map [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► showing you where the right to the thing [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► is trying to log on um uh so they're [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► doing the right thing I just think it [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► shows how hard it is to move old systems [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► along to the best practices right [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► because the Apple ID system dates back [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► to you know like 19 I don't know late [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► 90s when it was literally just a [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► username and a password and that was it [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► and your plastic I don't think I got one [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► until [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► um whatever the original mobileme thing [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► was like where you got the cards and all [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► that stuff that's probably when i first [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► got one you have one circ you said one [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► of those just a name things yeah I still [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► have it yeah Wow they didn't make you [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► change it uh not yet huh I think that [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► they might if I if I think if I were to [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► say if I were to release an app in the [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► App Store under my own under that [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► account i think i would have to update [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► I'd have to update it to an email [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► address I think there's a there's a [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► couple of thing and maybe even if I got [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► like a WWDC ticket I don't know if I got [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► it something goes something goes wrong [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► and like it could be like an itunes [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► problem sometimes they'll be these weird [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► sorry to go on about this but like you [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► know Syracuse and I talked about this a [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► lot on our program this mystery meat pop [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► ups if you get periodically for like [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► reauthorized with iCloud know like why I [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► reauthorize like what reauthorized like [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► what do you what is this for like if you [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► got that from google you'd freak if [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► you're just using your computer and you [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► got a popup message that said [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► reauthorize to Google you'd be like what [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► is this but then you know then you get [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► that thing where it's like oh now you [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► know you go to the principal's office [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► now you gotta go to apple ID apple com [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► you're going to set on the bench you're [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► going to wait your turn you're going to [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► go use I have not used apple ID apple [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► com in a while but every time i've used [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► it i feel i feel like i'm like indie [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► trying to get the head of the idol when [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► I got the bag of sand I just might get [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► out of here without getting speared [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► shouldn't have been a much bigger butt [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► bag of sand I thought about it because [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► gold I don't know how I presume that the [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► idol was hollow to some extent that it [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► was not a song like a modern chocolate [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► bunny yeah I presume that the idol was [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► like a modern chocolate bunny made of [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► gold but even so Gold is a very heavy [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► substance and I I feel like that what [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► they chose to do is pick something that [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► was cinematically roughly the same size [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► sure but I feel like you know I've oh [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► it's always bothered me a little bit [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► that see I'm just going to guess to me [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► here and I couldn't know without holding [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► the idol in the bag but I'm gonna say [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► three to six times heavier than that bag [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► of sand i'm also i'm loath to criticize [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► the scene because it [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► it's it famously this is the Raiders of [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► the Lost Ark is arguably my favorite [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► movie of all time depending on what day [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► you ask me without question my most [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► beloved movie of all time and yeah the [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► movie I know without question it's the [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► movie I've seen the most number of times [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► and even saying that and one of the [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► reasons I love the movie is that I love [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► every single scene in the movie there's [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► not a single clunker arguably other than [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► the one where Marion it's with the [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► mirror uh I know that it's a it's a [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► classic and I mean my kids like will [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► request to watch it it's it's still it's [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► it's really well put together yeah and [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► but that's seen in particular is a [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► standout among standouts yeah absolutely [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► here's the reason I know I think I've [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► told this story before but maybe not to [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► you the reason I know that I've seen [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► Raiders of the Lost Ark more than any [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► other movie is that growing up my friend [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► JD who lived right down the street from [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► me had a VCR and this is before very [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► early years of VCR technology and and [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► home video and you couldn't really even [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► it was like before video stores and [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► stuff it was like mostly VCRs or for [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► taping shows and they didn't really they [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► all the studios were just sort of [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► dipping their toes into like well maybe [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► well maybe we'll let you watch movies on [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► these tapes maybe but certainly not the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► good ones and somehow JD's dad got [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► copier raiders lost ark on VHS like but [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► before there were like commercial [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► versions of it I mean it was like if you [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► know one of the very early days of [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► movies that fell off the back of a truck [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► and it was right one and only movie here [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► yeah and we both loved it and so every [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► time it rained in the summer or like on [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► a Saturday or Sunday JD would call me up [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► and he would just see it would say you [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► want to watch the raider said i'd say [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► i'll be right there and that's what it [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► was it wasn't why do you want to watch a [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► movie do you want to come over he would [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► just call up and say do you want to [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► watch Raiders and i would say sure and [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► we'd go down to his house and we would [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► watch the raiders of the lost ark and it [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► never got old the early days of falling [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► off a truck to me were i want to say it [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► would have been when i was in high [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► school probably around the time of [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► return of the jedi HBO would show for [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► Star Wars movie and so lots of people of [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► my age and maybe a little bit younger [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► like they they kind of came up watching [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► a VHS home recorded copy that was the [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► early fall off the truck now the crazy [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► thing is um I was in military school for [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► a year 79 to 80 and we had a Betamax and [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► the deal was if we wanted movies we [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► would like pitch in like if you have [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► returned to get donated but you pitch in [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► cuz you could buy movies right but the [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► movies were about seventy to a hundred [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► dollars yeah we had a bait we had a [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► Betamax copy of mash we had the omen [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► which was totally inappropriate but uh [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► yeah and Bruce 100 bucks doing a copy of [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► mash of dollars but right I heard on [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► another podcast i think i want to say [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► maybe the flophouse that that that was [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► originally like they're basically [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► building in the cost for the idea that [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► video stores were going to be a thing [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► mmm yes so yeah that you'd buy it and [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► then like rent in a million times but i [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► don't know that seems so ludicrous now i [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► remember the other fallen off a truck [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► movie i remember and i was pretty [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► excited about it was i was probably his [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► tenth birthday my friend Joey had a [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► sleepover Joey's dad was a lawyer of [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► arguably ill repute given some of the [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► news coverage in the local town a lawyer [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► in New people fake news and so I don't [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► know 10 or 11 10 year olds sleeping over [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► at Joey's house we got pizza and Joey's [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► dad said he had a real treat force and [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► so Joey's dad says there's a treat for [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► you it might be good turns out somehow [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► the guy got a copy of empire strikes [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► back oh come on I sweat just like 1983 [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► so r it was like two years after it came [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► out it was probably we'd all seen it in [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► the theaters like because that was when [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► they'd have like next a year after it [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► came out they put it in theaters again [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► and it it was not letterboxed but it was [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► it was squished so Oh like you got to [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► see the hole and maybe not the whole [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► frame because that was like super wide [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► screen but you got to see more of the [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► picture but everybody looked like ig-88 [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► and ig-88 looked like a pencil [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► and like okay like when the Millennium [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► Falcon would like twist it would like [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► when it be flying one way it would look [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► fat and then it would like twist to go [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► through asteroids and it would like turn [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► into a piece of paper this still like so [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► similar thing still happens today like [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► if you're in a hotel and you know [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► they've got like this giant I don't know [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► why this happens they've got giant giant [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► giant tvs and like SD stations and [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► sometimes the settings are different [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► from channel to channel yeah some guys [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► I'm sure Todd could tell us what the [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► name for this is but gets real squished [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► up yep from some kind of mystery meat [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► aspect ratio yeah so oh my god oh still [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► he got a copy of this movie on VHS and [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► it was like once at first we were all we [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► are super excited then everybody was [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► like what the heck why is everything [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► squished and then we kind of figured out [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► what was going on and I was kind of [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► super happy about it because surprise [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► surprise even as a ten-year-old I was a [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► you know a bit of a nerd about hey just [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► you know pan and scan sucks I was kind [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► of once once once i got like five so [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► glad to learn the name for that cuz I [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► don't think I knew it back then i buy [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► watch everything you remember the James [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► Bond movies we're not a James Bond [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► movies would be on you'd be like whoa [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► that's that's weird like you never see [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► that kind of weird thing in a movie but [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► yeah told the James Bond movies were so [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► full of those yeah so anyway I was [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► really excited that's that's it was a [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► very fond memory so thank you Joey's dad [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► wherever you are nice memories all right [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► let me take a break I gotta feed I gotta [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► fit some of these will it come sponsors [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► in it's been a while since I've had an [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► episode I don't know it is one thing lit [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► it's a long story i'm not gonna tell [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► it's boring but yeah i got i got to [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► thank some of these sponsors and i love [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► them all i love them to death here's the [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► first 100 is a modern system of Wi-Fi [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► routers the single ma outer modeled it's [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► nonsense it we've moved past it this is [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► that's that's 1999 technology where you [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► buy a box stick it next to your cable [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► modem in whatever room that is and then [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► hope that the signal goes through all [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► the walls and floors of your house know [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► the right way to do it the modern way to [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► do it is to set up a mesh network you [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► buy it by the ear oh you get like three [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► or four these little pucks there eats [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► the size of Apple TV they're all the [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► same you just pick one whichever one the [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► first one you take out [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► box is the one you hook up to the cable [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► modem and that's like the master one and [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► then you hook up these other ones [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► throughout the house and they have a [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► helpful app that tells you to you know [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► the best strategy for where to place [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► them I think they even recommend a of [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► like a square footage they recommend one [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► for every thousand square feet they have [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► a beautiful app to put it on your iPhone [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► and the app lets you set everything up [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► you just tap tap tap and then all of a [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► sudden you've got a new Wi-Fi network in [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► your house that is a faster than [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► whatever you've already got if you've [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► got an old couple of years old router [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► and B will give you a signal that the [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► same all through your house so like if [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► you've got like a master bedroom two [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► floors up that gets a poor signal that's [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► not a problem anymore it works great I [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► don't know anybody who's got one of [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► these who doesn't think it's an upgrade [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► over whatever it is they replaced it [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► with is it perfect no nothing's perfect [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► but they've got great customer service [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► the app is great and they keep releasing [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► updates that keep making it better it's [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► really really great this is a great [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► company here it's currently rated four [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► point four stars on amazon with a [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► whopping 750 reviews they offer a one [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► year warranty and it will work with your [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► existing modem and internet service [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► you're just replacing the router that's [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► it so what do you can you get you get it [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► for three hundred ninety nine dollars [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► you get a three pack that's a hundred [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► dollars off and for 299 you get a 2-pack [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► that's fifty dollars off so go to ero [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► calm and use the code the talk show the [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► talk show and you'll get free expedited [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► shipping if you order if you listen to I [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► don't know when this shows going to pop [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► out of the the internet tubes but but [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► you could get one by the end of the week [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► so go ahead if you need a new from Josh [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► I want to say something that arrow I'll [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► tell you by era these guys are not [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► jackals they're not jackals this is the [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► real deal you gonna you put this in your [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► house first of all like you say you pick [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► any one of them you can mix them up you [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► can play a shell game you start with one [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► of these it tells you do do do the other [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► one do they don't now do the other one [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► and you know what parts of your house [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► that you thought just couldn't get the [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► internet you get the internet as my [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► friend Mike early says imagine that just [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► suddenly at certain points during the [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► day part of your house just [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► you can get electric like that's what it [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► feels like nowadays and this thing it [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► works a treat and that the app is just [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► terrific not Jackals it yeah really good [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► stuff I just love I always hated the way [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► with the other ones the old ones it was [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► one of the reasons I like the Apple 1 [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► i'm everyone apple used to make stuff [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► like this um I remember the other brand [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► right they used to be Apple yeah uh but [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► yeah other ones you used to like type in [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► a web browser like a magic localhost web [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► address and you'd get like the changes [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► 68 dot one dot one or dot one dot 100 we [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► go in there and you could get into your [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► linksys admin admin I used to have a [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► list in NV alt of every default password [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► so no matter where i was there was a [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► pretty good chance like I get onto [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► somebody's wife oh I was good i don't [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► want to save it for the end i want to [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► get this out of the way because it's [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► important it's really it's why I got you [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► on the horn to see if you could come on [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► the show because i do feel i feel that [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► the technology press in general but even [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► in our circle where you know like i'd [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► say in general people say that the tech [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► industry a lot of people mean like but [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► like a 30 mile circle or you know around [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► san francisco and yeah its consumer [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► devices and your services and your [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► facebooks and the thing easy use to turn [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► on your internet lights right but [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► there's all sorts of other technology [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► and its advancing at quick paces and the [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► technology media doesn't cover it and [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► here's a bit of it that I that I [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► encountered this week I was watching [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► some of the college basketball on TV and [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► I saw a 15 second commercial from [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► american standard you familiar with this [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► company i am now yeah american standard [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► is a maker of toilets and urinals and [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► they probably peed on your feet on their [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► logo like when you go to a ball game [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► yeah we have a new technology called for [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► max it's anti splatter flush technology [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► now I'm going to put this I'm going to [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► put this in the show notes I have swear [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► to God I know it's a running joke that I [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► often say i'm going to put something in [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► the show notes this one's going in and [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► i'm going to put it at the top of the [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► list of links even if it's not that [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► first thing we talked about so what I [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► recommend for everybody listening is [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► pause the show hit pause in your little [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► podcast app go to the show notes and hit [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► the first thing it'll be very clearly [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► labeled american standard form ax anti [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► splatter flush technology and watch this [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► commercial it's 15 seconds so it's young [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► you'll be back here before you know it I [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► didn't I didn't realize it's clean you [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► know she shameless it's clean shame on [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► me I did not know what a problem this [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► was until I watched this spotter I saw [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► this commercial and the first thing I [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► thought was what the hell did I just see [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► and then the second thing I thought was [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► I gotta get I gotta show this to Merlin [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► hmm I've been reviewing their videos [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► they have they have a couple like funny [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► videos like this one that are very funny [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► and they have some that are really [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► straight that are actually very [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► upsetting I really can't recommend [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► because here's the thing John what a lot [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► of people don't understand is there's a [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► problem with splatter so I guess the [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► problem with splatter is that your [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► standard American low-flow toilet is not [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► doing a good enough job of sluicing [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► daddy splatter away in a way that's [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► accessible mom it's taken away it's [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► taking away the the bulk the bulk the [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► book yeah right mmm it shows the book [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► but misses the splatter it's taken away [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► the bulk it's taken away the yellow [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► right how many times has this happened [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► to you right with the splatter yeah no [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► no I mean Sam saying it's like an [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► infomercial now in some of the other [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► ones they illustrate how effectively [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► splatter is removed in one case I think [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► they like show you how to flush [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► ping-pong balls down your toilet but [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► there's one I really do not recommend [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► watching where they simulate splatter in [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► a toilet with what I'm hoping is fudge [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► Oh No there's master there's matter in [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► there you got you got yet it's like I'm [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► sure you got it's like somebody put [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► three dollars of Nutella it's like a [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► flight of new [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► hella across the back and then at the [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► bottom you got some kind of straw matter [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► i'm not sure what it is the boy just [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► cleans it right out the spider just [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► sluices right away all right in the [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► commercial that I'm talking about I feel [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that every single aspect of this [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► commercial is worth analyzing so number [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► one it's so it starts very well done [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► still tight it starts with a bow [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► splattering ketchup on his on his polo [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► shirt now he seems he seems a bit of a [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► doddering fool I I'm really it's a cut [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► to retiree enjoying an outdoor meal [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► together and he's gonna put some cats [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► upon his wiener I feel is it a good [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► shake I feel it's one of these I feel [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► it's one of these couples though where [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► where huh bo is is in decline and wifey [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► is short still sharp its attack and she [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► suck starting to get a little a lot of a [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► little sick of us shit literally oh yeah [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► yeah no no oh I see what you're saying [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► how things are declining yeah oh god yes [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► maybe she could tell the hot dogs so [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► here's how I read it I read this story [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► as as uh bo is in decline and he's [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► splattering all over the toilet and the [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► wife is so sick of of this mess that [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► she's taking it into her own hands she's [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► done a mark oh and she's done a [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► deep-dive on toilets this is her [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► headphones right this is her headphones [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► and she's she is now completely up to [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► speed on modern flushing technology and [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► has replaced the toilet and it at least [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► in you know maybe all of them probably [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► they look well off so she could maybe [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► just you know come in and just get all [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► he can afford a toilet on their patio so [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► we haven't even gotten to that yet like [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► that's but what out here just to gaze he [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► can't make it inside no what's this [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► second charge for 259 oh she's had it [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► with splatter and she addresses the [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► audience all right it's illustrated with [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► with the blue material a pleasant blue [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► material which rings a bell from some [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► feminine hygiene product commercials [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► I've seen seen over the years oh right [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► it always absorbs blue right there's [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► going blue is the universal seems to be [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► the unit [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► persol color for what are otherwise [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► considered unpleasant bodily emissions [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► nothing we emit is blue blue does seem [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► to be a nice color and so if you want to [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► illustrate the absorbency of say a [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► tampon or a feminine napkin or a [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► splatter on a toilet you use you use [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► blue mm-hmm you know now I'm just [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► scrubbing a little bit here they have a [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► toilet on their deck just sitting there [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► it bothers me a little bit it's headed [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► tilted angle it's not quite squared up [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► aligned with the decks of the the planks [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► ago that would that would drive down [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► weed drive cable crazy yeah that [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► misalignment like who installed that why [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► what's the deal yeah get a nice oiled [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► like this you know I think you want to [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► invest in it in a proper yeah I mean [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► this is it's it's hard this is a little [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► bit like like a Marquez commercial I [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► think it's a little bit magically real [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► yeah yeah a lot I realized that I do [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► realize all all joking aside I realized [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► that we're not meant to assume that they [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► that this is depicting a couple who [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► literally put a open-air toilet on their [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► deck yeah I realized that they're taking [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► shortcuts for the sake of brevity in [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► that style that was sort of maybe [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► epitomized by um i forget i don't know i [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► don't know what i'm talking about but [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► you know a sort of absurdist style oh [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► yes come on yes um even you go back to [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► the days of the tidy Bowl man tidy Bowl [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► man got a little Commodore and your [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► toads yeah he swam around in there he [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► lived in there he look he looks pretty [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► happy in there yeah even though even [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► though when there was whether it was not [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► good whoa that's the forecast captain [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► splatter splatter mm all right i think [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► the commercial is notable even without [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► the capper yeah but the capper [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► hmm really I I swear I almost had a [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► stroke when the woman's head popped out [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► of the toilet woman's head pops out of [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► the trailer she says it's clean she [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► announces its clean and this is a light [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► motif now if you watch the one called [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► clinger you see clinger no i did not see [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► Cole click over there on the right go to [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► go to american standard form ax toilet [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► go to clinger take a minute enjoy that [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► one all right all right yep mm-hmm and [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► there's a third one called skid marks [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► were you aware of how insufficient the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► flushing technology is in your toilets [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► in your house when we get to the [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► analysis phase of this I have I do have [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► a lot of thoughts on this but I know I [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► have to be honest with you barring let's [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► say the bathroom at a cinema or a sports [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► event I do not encounter these problems [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► as much and we've got a pretty low flow [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► old-school toilet dingus maybe we're [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► just lucky you know maybe it's the [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► probiotics I don't know something you [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► working for us pounce I'm blessed oui [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► oui but there's so much to it cuz like [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► you know part of it is also it implies [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► not only that this guy causes splatter [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► but he doesn't notice it and doesn't [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► like give a second you know back up [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► flush the old guy yeah right yeah how [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► about if I if I went in and let's be [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► honest we all ruin a bathroom sometimes [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► it happens it's part of being an adult [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► if I went in there and really shamed if [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► i shamed the bathroom I would want to do [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► a little bit of cleanup maybe light a [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► match to shoot a little bit of a little [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► bit of glade right but I would most [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► definitely do do a visual inspection of [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► the bowl right for a skid mark or a [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► spotter or if you like a clinger give [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► the toilet a chance to catch its breath [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► refill the bowl right [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► a second chance yeah like a full flush [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► though you know what I mean like if you [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► don't wait if you don't wait you kind of [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► get like a you get a Wimpy flush you [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► know I mean it's you gotta catch your [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► breath it's like the flush is like 100 [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► yard dash if you want it to run another [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► hundred yard dash you got to give it a [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► chance to catch its breath if you tell [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► going which this is a chance for you to [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► you could wash your hands you could look [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► at your phone you go through somebody's [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► medicine cabinet could definitely should [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► be washing your hands right is this too [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► gross John no I mean this is obviously [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► this is a real problem this is uh you [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► know yeah I don't know I my guess is [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► that they started with here's a [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► complaint I do here is you know the [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► whole low flow problem of like the [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► modern house you get a low-flow shower [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► that's not satisfying you get a toilet [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► that requires like six flushes people [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► get frustrated about that what's [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► interesting about this though is like [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► also if you watch there if one more the [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► sort of person to watch many videos from [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► this company about how the toilets are [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► made if you wore that sort of person you [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► see they're really also playing up how [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► easy it is to clean they've done [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► something revolutionary with the outer [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► rim so you don't get germs and matter on [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► the outside no you know I I think one [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► thing though I think that when [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► middle-class white people are upgrading [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► I think the kitchens kitchens are one [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► people put a lot of money in their [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► kitchens and I think people really like [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► putting money into their bathroom yeah [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► don't you think oh I do too i think it's [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► it's it's a very modern way of upgrading [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► your house i mean when you and I were [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► kids I mean your bathroom was I mean not [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► that they wouldn't you know it simply is [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► it cleaner is it not clean and that [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► meant it was a nice bathroom or not a [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► nice bathroom and that was it but like [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► it just it was like everybody had the [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► same sink it was just it's just a white [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► rectangle yeah my grandparents second in [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► their half bath had a wooden toilet seat [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► I'll never forget harrowing and the only [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► real the only real option was whether [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► you got the you got to two faucets hot [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► and a cold or if you had one and you [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► kind of you know stir it around like a [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► joystick to adjust the temperature [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► and that was it you didn't have any [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► other choices it all came out of the [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► same spigot and now it's you know people [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► yeah people are getting deluxe toilets [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► european-style toilets when you get a [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► todo on there yeah that's a popular [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► that's a popular thing I'm not familiar [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► what is what is that Oh toto it's a it's [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► like an aftermarket bday ah there I've [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► seen its it squirts squirts hot water [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► onto your downstairs yeah well that [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► sounds better than it sounds first you [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► scoff and then pretty soon you're ready [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► to give it a ring it's quite a it's [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► quite a thing yeah well cut cock tease [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► been on this for years I must be too [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► might even be 10 years ago rakaat Keef [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► you know broke the barrier let's let's [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► talk about this stuff would you you know [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► would you clean let's just say like well [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► there's a fine example from the earlier [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► commercial let's say that a member of [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► your family ate a hot dog with ketchup [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► on it on your plate would you wash that [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► plate with a dry paper towel yank you [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► better give it a quick swipe and then [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► just put it back in the cab of dry paper [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► towel and then put that in the couch on [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► other other countries think that we are [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► monstrous well I think that date well [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► you know what save it God might have [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► been a canary in the coal mine actually [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► do you think about it they might have [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► been on something I sent you to this [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► page on the form ax toilet technology [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► site boy they got trademarks on [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► everything yeah so you checked out the [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► the various different models they got [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► white label versions of this toilet you [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► know a different place to take at the [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► Heritage they got the astute the esteem [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► and optum they in the Ultima they seem [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► to all be the same toilet they look [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► exactly the same and there's but there's [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► a different name for the one at lowe's [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► and a different name for the one at home [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► depot see it's like my mattress is [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► exactly the rack addresses yeah the [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► esteem mmm exclusively at Lowe's you [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► know what I'll bet somebody's going to [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► come along and disrupt the toilet [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► industry and i'll be i'll be selling [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► toilets on this podcast within a year I [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► think you might be on to something you [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► think about you think about the [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► disruptions in industry you can have [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► silver Underpants you could get you get [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► yourself an internet mattress all right [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► there's so many of these new [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► kinds of services you could get like a [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► box full of socks internet eyeglasses [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► internet I glass is huge but there still [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► is still a big a big Pole if you like [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► waiters waiting to be filled with [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► internet toilets so what would that be [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► now what are you going to be the first [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► of all it's got to be affordable it's [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► got to come an impossibly small box and [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► engineered in America it'll be in the [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► toilet arrives you can carry up the [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► stairs by yourself you slit open the [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► package it goes and in the toilet comes [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► to life it's probably Wi-Fi enabled it's [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► got push notifications if you know what [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► I mean you know what know why fight you [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► probably get it on the Wi-Fi first and [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► it it hmm I was gonna suggest he'll get [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► up to your ear oh yeah I was going to [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► suggest that it have a camera but that's [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► not right I'm here so how I think it [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► would because you don't want a camera on [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► the toilet I'm gonna say when it comes [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► with an app that you put on your phone [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► and then it can use your phone camera [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► and you just point it at your old toilet [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► and it it it'll do like a okay here's [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► the water hookup and whatever and then [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► oh right it'll just install itself yeah [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► I got you know I wouldn't I wouldn't say [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► it's not going to happen because people [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► people are interested in technology [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► there are things in my home right now [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► that are unnecessarily complex technical [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► technological products I could never [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► have imagined owning like existing let [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► alone owning ten years ago yeah you know [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► you know and a lot of things start out [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► as jokes and everybody thinks it's a [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► joke and then it becomes you know [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► becomes a real thing you know like some [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► of the gags in back to the future when [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► they went into the future you know and [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► now yeah you know you've got these [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► things you know like the hoverboards and [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► whatnot you we laugh about it but you [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► wait and see you wait and see if these [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► internet toilets if they won't let you [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► take one right out on the deck hello [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► wheels on it and you can just lock it'll [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► detect when you sit down and then to [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► lock the wheels so you're not sliding [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► around while you're while you're doing [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► your business I think it have to slide [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► unlock because you don't want everybody [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► just using your patio toilet right right [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► I mean save something for me yeah it's [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► funny like we'd mentioned you know for [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► example we might want to talk [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► voice stuff that that voice stuff to me [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► is just one example of many things where [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► like it is funny where we are right now [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► with voice and I have to admit I'm a [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► little bit obsessed with voice stuff and [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► what it portends for the future for [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► worse or mostly better in my opinion but [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► it is very interesting to live at this [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► time where you can kind of have your [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► feet in these these two different sides [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► of the creek or on the one hand it is [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► incredible what you can do with your [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► voice but it is also incredible how [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► terrible it is so much of the time we [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► are really we are living through a very [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► interesting transition now something [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► like Wi-Fi I was just think about this [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► the other day like I'm trying to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► remember when I first had exposure to [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► Wi-Fi and I think I remember becoming a [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► biggie a big deal around the time i [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► first went to the etek the emerging [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► technology conference would make that [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► probably 2002 and there's the no cat [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► guys and was such a big deal and I had [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► like I think an Orinoco card for my wall [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► street laptop you know stuck outside [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► could get the impossibly slow and that [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► seemed like it seemed like a parlor [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► trick like why don't you just want to [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► just plug in ethernet John right like [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► what are you supply an ethernet for this [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► thing it's like well no no there's this [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► new thing and it's even get your [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► internet through the air and my first [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► experience with that had been on a palm [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► 7 I think would be my first like really [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► like kind of connected device I think [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► number at palm 7 it was huge and had [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► that big-ass antenna yeah I was about to [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► say is that the one with the big game [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► tenant like a cigar a cigar denied ever [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► antenna coming out the side or the time [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► and it was if memory serves it was very [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► costly very slow very limited it was [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► essentially like you know whap style [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► functionality but it was on your ass on [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► your palm pilot I well so it seemed [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► amazing it was a breakthrough though [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► because laptops in general were a [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► premium computing device they were far [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► more expensive than the equivalent [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► horsepower was a rich man's device a [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► rich trance device but really all it was [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► effectively was a way to move your [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► computing and it the big advantage to it [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► was that the cloud was no we're back [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► then we didn't even have clouds we don't [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► have clouds so if you wanted your stuff [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► in two different places like work and [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► home or you know work and a road trip [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► you needed to take the device with you [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► but you would just move from one like [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► work stay [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► Shin set up desk to another where you [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► already had things like an Ethernet jack [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► ready to go like you couldn't yeah [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► anywhere using apps it was a big deal [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► when you first got these like fairly [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► they're nerdy but it was like basically [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► a GUI to like our Sangha where you go [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► like put them on the same network and [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► say okay these two folders make sure [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► they match like that's pretty much the [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► extent of it but the idea that you could [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► just you know move from the kitchen [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► counter to the kitchen table and no [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► longer be within arm's length of the [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► wall where the Ethernet port is was [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► ludicrous and last you were going to do [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► something like just you know whatever [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► you do with the computer when it's not [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► connected to an Internet that seems so [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► strange now right yeah yeah um I think [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► the voice stuff it is it's it's early [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► days but early days in a far less [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► technical way than the computers the [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► text based computers of our youth but [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► there's an analogy there right and [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► obviously the technology that's involved [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► to just have the most rudimentary yo [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► dingus what's the weather and have a [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► thing that within however many seconds [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► it is to recognize the speech and turn [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► it into a command and then go out and [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► get weather data for the location that [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► you're at is obviously it would have [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► taken like a TI 99 for a like it would [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► if it either say you had a perfectly [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► working program that could do that for [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► that program it would still be running [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► right now like 37 years later still not [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► quite done yet so there's a total [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► difference in terms of the just like [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► just pure bits per second of computation [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► that's involved to get it but there's [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► some similarities in the crudeness of of [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► how these things work in a way that like [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► a command line environment you've got to [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► know the exact right command to delete a [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► file right if you're on my boss you have [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► to type del wasn't it del for delete del [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► space filename and on unix it was RM you [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► couldn't just type trash this file you [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► right merit and it's the same way with [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► voice you've got to know these you know [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► you gotta say there are door especially [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► the thing is what you um such a common [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► theme that comes up again and again or [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► are these trade-offs they were just [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► talking about this on ATP like they [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► always do but you know the kind of [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► trade-offs where for example if you want [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► your air pause to do more stuff will be [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► careful what you ask for because they [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► are they're very streamlined right now [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► they're good at this thing that they do [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► mostly yeah i mean i wish like the serie [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► on air pods is pretty slow yeah it's too [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► slow like I yeah it's not mean and I [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► guess we'll talk more about this but I I [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► have been really just to you know one [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► thing I've been doing is I mentioned [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► this on other programs but I've been [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► making myself from Friday evening [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► through as much as possible of Saturday [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► I've been trying to set myself to using [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► voice for everything that I can in lieu [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► of other things and if I can't yeah go [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► use the computer or whatever but like [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► try to be mindful for about a one day a [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► week of trying to figure out more stuff [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► that I can and possibly should do with [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► voice and it has been very illuminating [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► I mean not least of which you learn how [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► much stuff is really not ready yet but [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► there's a surprising amount of stuff and [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► I mean the MacGuffin here is that you [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► know by making yourself do this and [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► being mindful about it just for this [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► period of time you know you remember to [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► try stuff more and if you try it and it [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► doesn't work you might say well then [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► what's the incantation right so like [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► with you know as far as these trailer so [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► just to get dial that's one reason I'm [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► so obsessed but with Alexa good sorry [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► with the lady in a tube I get an email [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► every friday from amazon it's like well [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► here's this new stuff that it does and [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► it's you know frequently as stuff like [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► hey i asked about cricket or whatever [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► but then other times if there is really [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► legitimately a pretty amazing stuff to [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► enable a lot of that you got to get into [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► skills and once you get into skills now [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► you're getting more into what you're [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► describing as being with the command [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► line because you go from just being able [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► to issue a raw command to basically [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► hailing a skill inside and then knowing [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► what the mojo is inside of there but [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► honestly it's not it's not that that [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► difficult all right this morning I see [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► via friend Joe steel I see now you can [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► if you have prime now available in your [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► area you can order prime now over your [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► lady in a tube [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► so like I just I talked to my tube this [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► morning I said hey tube reorder cat [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► litter it said okay here's this recent [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► thing in your order for cat litter is [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► that the one you want yeah okay that's [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► not enough money do you want to add [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► anything else to it yeah sure add that [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► so I don't know I ie I guess I just feel [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► like in order in order to like sort of [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► I'd say keep up but to really have some [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► kind of a foothold and where stuff is [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► going you know I can understand why [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► people are reluctant to use this stuff [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► for so so many reasons but I really kind [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► of feel like if you want to be somewhat [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► forward-looking and modern about what's [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► happening you really can't afford to [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► totally overlooked this and write it off [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► as silly Buck Rogers stuff it's getting [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► better at a noticeable clip and it's it [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► still is terrible but yeah right but [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► when something and computing is terrible [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► but you can see it getting better if you [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► just pay attention month to month you [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► know it's going to get good soon and if [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► you're you're going to miss out on all [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► the it's all the interesting stuff is [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► going to happen between now and then [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► like once it's good and everybody takes [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► it for granted it's no longer [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► interesting right everything seems [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► impossible or dumb until it's something [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► you're using every day and you go we'll [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► of course that's that's always been how [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► we how it is all right you noticed last [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► night I think were you on that thread [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► last night where somebody mentioned that [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► suddenly out of nowhere was it Michael [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► yeah I think it was my son our friend of [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► the show Michael Heilmann well and he [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► points something out that like is [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► definitely like a known problem that has [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► suddenly been fixed other people like no [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► it's always been this way in my house [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► you goes in my house if you say hey [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► dingus but like it's like five different [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► things light up right so if I say hey [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► dingus so here's here's the thing that I [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► say most to a dingus all the time hey [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► dingus remind me to take out the pasta [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► in eight minutes hmm but whip up and [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► suddenly oh there's all these Scottish [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► ladies talking all at the same time like [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► trying to remind me about pasta [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► apparently they just pulled in Amazon [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► echo and they seem to be using what [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► proximity because I tested it last night [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► and it it works in a way like it's not [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► doing firing multiple devices anymore [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► its fires multiple devices does you see [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► a blank on the screen but only lost one [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► says I got it in hand [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► that's exactly right so now finally my [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► stupid watch is like slightly usable cuz [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► I'll be two rooms away from any other [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► iOS device screaming into my watch to [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► please hear me it never hears me and in [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► the other room you're like I want a San [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► Francisco is like ah but that's that [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► kind of advancement I mean that sounds [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► subtle sounds dumb but like that kind of [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► stuff you're right it's happening faster [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► dictation continues to be getting so [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► much better now a used to never send [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► texts that way I mean once you learn the [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► incantation of hey dingus and tell john [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► gruber kiss my house like once you learn [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► the incantation of how to do that it [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► really does kind of just work I don't [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► understand how this is working node like [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► here's one chase gallagher jumped in to [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► the Twitter thread and said it's not [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► just I cloud-connected his work phone [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► and personal phone are not linked in any [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► way and only one will trigger I don't [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► understand how that's working I guess [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► like I should try it with I haven't [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► experimented with this because this is [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► like you said it is something that Apple [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► obviously improved but yeah it's got it [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► has to have been I'm gonna stay on the [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► outside within the last two weeks I'm [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► feeling like within the last few days [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► very new like I should put like like me [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► and my wife's iPhones right next to each [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► other and see how this works and how it [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► decides which one to use fast you have [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► multiple do multiple amazon dinguses no [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► just one amazon dingus well we are i [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► have to admit a multiple dingus house [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► and Amazon's had this for I don't know [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► month or more and it really it works [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► unevenly but well yeah meaning like if [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► I'm an earshot of three different ladies [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► in a tube I can see the ring the blue [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► ring fires off you know that's a cool [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► thing where you can see where it thinks [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► The Voice is coming from so yeah [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► something fires off joe jonas pointed [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► that out to me and then once I only [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► figured this out like two months ago [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► that it's saying here's where I think [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► the voices it's pointing at you yeah but [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► I could see two or three different [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► dinguses fire off its kind of uneven [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► which one ends up doing the execution [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► but it it doesn't it will not execute [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► more than one at a time but I don't know [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► if this is something that again they [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► talked about the Sun ATP recently and I [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► was totally in Syracuse's corner over [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► saying like it's hard [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► describe this until you really do start [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► using it it's very very abstract until [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► you kind of set yourself to the task of [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► doing this you become less [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► self-conscious about it you try more [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► things you do more stuff and so if I'm [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► forever just walking around adding [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► things to like a shopping list to wear [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► now I feel like a monster having to sit [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► down and type that it feels really silly [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► i use ifttt to sync up my amazon lists [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► with my reminders so do you do that no [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► it's pretty cool we just go die FTT and [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► you basically say when a new on when a [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► new item is added to my amazon shopping [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► list add that to this reminders list and [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► in what anything I mean like the iOS [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► reminders app or not the Apple reminders [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► Apple yeah exactly yeah that's actually [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► pretty powerful so that and then if [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► you're a super nerd you know you don't [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► have to be like Federico vtg level nerd [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► but you can also do stuff like then say [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► like hook you can hook that up with for [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► example OmniFocus right so when you add [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► something to that list the next time you [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► open OmniFocus tits it sucks it out of [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► that list or you know to do a store [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► whatever you like to use but yeah I [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► don't know I don't know I hits I have [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► this I have this theory about this that [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► I have yet to prove and I haven't given [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► it that much thought but somebody [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► written into back to work to ask us [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► about like oh god is this the future is [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► the future going to be like people in my [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► office talking into Excel and I was like [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► my I know I I kind of don't think it is [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► because I kind of feel like there's [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► these parts to the voice thing that you [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► don't get if all you see is somebody [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► being a dingus and talking into the air [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► the voice is one part the voice yeah [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► that's the parlor trick but it's but [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► what's behind the voice right it's that [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► I don't know what you want to call it [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► the functionality the scripting in some [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► cases the AI or machine learning [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► whatever it is but that middle layer of [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► what it does with what heard if it heard [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► it well what it does with that that's [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► maybe the important part and then the [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► third part is the ubiquity so I mean I [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► have this idea that I'm kind of bubbling [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► around which is that I wonder if voice [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► ends up historically being the least [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► important part of that stack voice voice [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► is the parlor trick that's fun to use [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► but I think that you the idea of that [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► kind of ubiquitous availability first [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► did you follow where I'm going with this [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► like I don't think you're gonna have to [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► talk into Excel i think that there's [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► been more [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► more bespoke remote devices that do your [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► bidding without you needing to know how [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► to do our M dash are all right hold that [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► thought hold that thought because I want [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► to keep going with this but i want to i [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► got a break in here i told you about by [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► an eye glasses online will look oh come [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► on it really is it's a friend warby [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► parker they make buying my glasses [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► online easy and risk-free they believe [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► glasses should be viewed as a fashion [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► accessory just like a bag shoe necktie [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► hat I mean how many pairs of shoes do [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► you have you have one pair of shoes why [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► world with joining of one pair of [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► glasses well the reason some people [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► would because they cost hundreds of [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► dollars well guess what warby parkers [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► glasses start at just $95 including the [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► prescription lenses they don't give you [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► a crazy upsell just on anti glare and [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► anti-scratch they give you the anti [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► glare in the anti scratch by default [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► because who doesn't want them no upsell [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► on that crap and for every pair of [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► glasses you buy they send a pair to [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► someone in need around the world people [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► who've got need eyeglasses but they're [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► there you know can't afford them warby [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► parker takes care of them it's a free [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► try at home program you go to their [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► website they've got I don't know at [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► least 100 pairs of glasses probably more [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► tons of them any style you can imagine [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► you will pick up to five that you like [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► they send them to you for free with like [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► dummy lenses in them and you can like [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► put them on see what they look like on [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► your face no obligation to buy you [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► haven't given them any money yet it [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► ships for free they give you the label [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► to send it back if you like one or more [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► of the ones you just say okay here I [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► like this one I like this one you give [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► me your prescription info they've got [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► like a little trick to measure like the [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► distance between your eyes you hold like [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► a standard credit card up in front of a [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► webcam or something like that and they [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► can measure and because you know you [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► there's little tricks like that to get [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► the glasses to be just right because I [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► got to know how far apart your pupils [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► are they do it right there with a camera [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► you don't go to a store you don't waste [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► any time on stuff like that totally free [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► to try these things at home you pick the [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► ones you like and they start at just 95 [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► bucks and then they show up in like a [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► couple of days it's a great system [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► they've got sunglasses you can get [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► prescription sunglasses they come with [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► polarized lenses etc etc [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► UV protection and remember every single [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► pair that you buy includes a pair of [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► glasses that they distribute to people [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► in need go to Warby Parker calm / the [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► talk show Warby Parker calm / the talk [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► show and don't know you came from the [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► show great stuff I think the sunglasses [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► are a good gateway drug like if you're [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► not ready to like let go of your [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► artisanal small-batch glasses that you [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► bought your tiny little Helvetica [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► glasses like start with sunglasses [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► because you if you need glasses you [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► could really benefit from prescription [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► sunglasses you know these guys have [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► gotten into a detail now too there's a [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► they have a retail shop here that just [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► opened here in Philly a couple weeks ago [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► right down the street from like the [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► apple store like you know like the [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► premium model district right I think [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► maybe arguably literally within a [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► stone's throw of the apple store there [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► so that there's a Warby Parker you can [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► go into i have i've walked down either [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► you could ever get a toilets they send [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► you four or five toilets to your house [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► you try them out you send back the ones [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► you don't want they might do that they [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► might might be why they got the retail [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► space you know i mean so you can you [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► know go in there and have a seat try try [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► it out for yourself yeah so I everything [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► like we used to could we just got the [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► apple store to check their email right [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► now maybe you go in there athena test [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► out the merchandise here's my theory on [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► the voice uh computers have conquered [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► tasks that the interfaces that have been [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► available have been acceptable to a [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► useful for so we did spreadsheets and [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► word processing first because at at the [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► very earliest years of computing the [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► only thing we really had were literally [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► we only had text-based displays and we [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► had keyboards and those are two things [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► that that with nothing but a text based [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► display and a keyboard they were [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► actually way better than what came [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► before it right but you could do things [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► like you put all these numbers into your [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► spreadsheet and get an answer for what [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► your budget would be and then you know [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► somebody says well what if instead of [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► ten percent growth we only have five [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► percent growth what happens all of a [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► sudden you say so you start with an [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► electronic it's an electronic analog for [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► something in the physical world but with [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► this added functionality it what [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► computers have always been good at is it [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► when they I take off is doing things [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► that that used to be mundane and make [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► saving us tons of time and you have that [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► you know it's even a relatively simple [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► spreadsheet in pre spreadsheet days if [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► somebody said let's say what happens if [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► we only have five percent growth instead [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► of ten percent growth but that number [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► percolates down to 20 different things [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► beneath it it takes two seconds in a [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► spreadsheet to make that change and it [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► would take a couple of minutes of math [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► error prone hand arithmetic it you know [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► previously word processing word [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► processing let people who were writing [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► documents make changes without bringing [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► whiteout and making a mess of the paper [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► and significant changes like moving [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► paragraphs around or deleting entire [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► chunks without retyping like I would [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► probably I think there's a good chance [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► that if I had been born fifty years [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► earlier I still would have been a writer [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► of some sort but I I would have been an [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► angry writer because I think I always [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► would be angry at the rewriting in high [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► school I used to have to do it I had a [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► typewriter in high school I didn't have [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► a computer so we had there was a there's [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► a one of the history teachers in my [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► college was infamous for always she's [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► very very tough to read or very tough [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► critic tough teacher and she would [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► invariably send back people's papers [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► everybody's got their paper sent back [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► and I had he had to make changes on it [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► and she would you know mark it up and [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► you'd have to retype any page that had [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► more than three corrections on it you [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► would have to read redo the page so you [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► gotta retype that beige and it was a big [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► correction guess what your retyping at [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► least two paper because it would [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► overflow right exactly yeah I mean and [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► that's a radical change if you really [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► think about I know that there's [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► youngsters out there who've never had to [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► do this and you think oh that sounds bad [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► but it was it was in practice it was [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► worse it was worse than you're imagining [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► because it really just felt like [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► busywork and that's what computers have [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► been good at but I feel like for things [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► like Excel we don't there's no need for [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► voice for that we ought you know the [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► existing input methods are better i [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► think the voice stuff totally agree the [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► voice stuff is entirely for stuff where [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► voice is a better a better interface [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► than then keyboard you know typing or [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► something like that well my response to [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► that listener i did one of those turns [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► out knock on Gladwell things because i [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► was like oh first of all you know i [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► don't think i don't think that is the [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► best way to interact but the bigger [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► question now I got my futurist had on [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► the bigger question is how many of us [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► will have jobs where we use Excel into [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► like that that's you know if you're [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► really thinking about this stuff nothing [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► I'm any scholar on this but that's let's [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► think bigger than where we are now we've [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► got to quit thinking about things as [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► slighted iterations on what we're [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► willing to admit has changed about what [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► we understand and start looking instead [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► it like what is the trend line for this [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► and and we know where does that end up [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► amidst all these other kinds of things [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► but so so how much do you use voice [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► day-to-day now I use it frequently but I [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► use it for the same handful of things [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► over and over and over and over again [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► are you a dictator I do i do dictate so [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► if that i think that should count so i [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► definitely dictate like I messages I [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► absolutely do because it's it's I can [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► dictate faster than I can type and it's [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► active in more than a sentence if you're [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► typing more than two sentences just put [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► a clock on it it'll blow your mind even [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► accounting for the time to fix small [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► errors it's so much faster than typing [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► and for the most part of the people who [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► i'm texting it said you know again a [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► handful of people you it's either my [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► wife my son or a close personal friend [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► and if it makes a homonym error I often [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► will just let it slide because I think [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► it's funny you know if you know if I say [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► it's AI don't know that the the produce [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► selection is a real Horror Show and it [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► comes out it comes out with horror or a [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► horse show I was or something like what [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► I'll look the truth is like on my iPad [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► I've got these the small iPad pro and [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► the truth is dictation on there [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► especially on Wi-Fi for certain kinds of [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► things like you know paragraph link [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► things like you know i would i would [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► challenge people to actually try this [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► because here's the thing for me if i'm [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► laying in bed like an animal typing with [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► my thumbs i will very frequently be [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► doing stuff like hitting the comma and [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► breaking this word in half for some dumb [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► reason or i meant to hit i meant to hit [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► a and i hit capital like there's these [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► same three or four typing mistakes I [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► make constantly on devices and you don't [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► get that instead you get funny funny [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► homonyms but so dictation do you do a [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► lot of like little task do you remind [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► do you do setting meetings and stuff [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► like that no not calendar but I have a [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► lot of meetings but I'll do reminder [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► sing I'll say you know add such and such [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► to my shopping list I feel like on with [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► the iOS voice function coffee the I'm [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► trying to avoid triggering [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► trying to avoid triggering [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► thanks um that I think that's the [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► gateway drug you what is the is like hey [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► dingus remind me to bring up the laundry [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► when I arrived at the house in two hours [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► right because there's a lot to that I [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► mean you do get a reminder it's on your [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► reminder list that's good by itself [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► it'll go off in two hours no matter what [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► but like if you're in the Geo fenced [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► area earlier it goes off as well I don't [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► know how many people know that and it's [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► really as simple as saying that thing if [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► you want to get started with your iphone [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► in particular I think that's that's a [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► pretty good place to start not great for [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► controlling music on air pots I've got [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► to say but a good way to you know get [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► you started well I think it would be if [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► the latency word were solved it's it's [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► too much of if there's too much of a [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► pause between when you double tap the [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► air pod and when the assistant kicks in [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► it's my fantasy for the air pods is it [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► gets something like I know this is [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► impossible at this point but that on one [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► side there's something like I know this [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► sounds crazy but there's something like [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► a impossibly small touchpad that's you [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► know like the size of you know half [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► centimeter but something that you could [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► press on that you could tap or push and [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► it has a little bit of slide ability so [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► you could like for example I know that's [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► nuts but it'd be pretty cool if you [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► could hit that dingus tap it twice you [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► get Siri you hit it once for example and [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► if you slide backwards or forwards it [TS]