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170: Let Zygons Be Zygons

 

00:00:06   the incomparable flash test number 107 e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/6">TS</a>]

00:00:11   November 23rd 2030 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/11">TS</a>]

00:00:20   we're back for a special flash flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   cast edition of being comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   recorded live Saturday November 23rd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   2013 the 50th anniversary of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/28">TS</a>]

00:00:31   broadcast doctor who and not too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   ago as we record this we watched as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   everybody around the world watched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   50th anniversary episode of doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   was on the same time all around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/42">TS</a>]

00:00:46   world people could get up in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/46">TS</a>]

00:00:47   of the night in Asia and watch it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   and for for those of us on the west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   coast it was on just a little before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53   noon and so I am your host is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/53">TS</a>]

00:00:58   Jason Snelling joining me are a handful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   of other people who are regular panelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   who have seen this episode want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   about it really quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   david lawrence here hello David hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   megan is this thing on wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   yeah which-which thing isn't working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   who's who's who sonic screwdriver is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   that number 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   I Scott McNulty has interrupted his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   dinner to join us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22   thank you Scott for being here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   making that supreme sacrifice of half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   your dinner being cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   I don't know this is the real Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   because I don't think the real Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31   would really care about my dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   it's true i have been i may have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/93">TS</a>]

00:01:34   replaced by a Saigon but let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   let's let bygones be bygones Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40   oh and we also have Dan Morgan hi Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/100">TS</a>]

00:01:46   hello Jason I'm glad that all five of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/106">TS</a>]

00:01:51   could be imprisoned in this small cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   together it's good it's good that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   could we could be in this tiny space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57   together answer andy caldwell is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   unnamed fifth member that Dan was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   referring to there because he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   clever and can count I see a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   hello did you know the door was open I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07   did not think to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   that's a reference to a show i just saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   nice very nice failed i'm gonna break in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/129">TS</a>]

00:02:15   here by the way and point out and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   will put this at the front of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   to we're talking about this episode we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/138">TS</a>]

00:02:19   saw it we're talking about it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   don't want to be spoiled a don't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   to this episode thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   this has been a public sorry I yea sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   should I read on the horn yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   mission start with the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   the spoiler TARDIS yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/150">TS</a>]

00:02:37   the day of the doctor is what we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   lots of stuff I I even yeah lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   what wow let's just go around and I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   some first impressions of how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   what people thought about this and liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   about this episode because you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   still processing it i think Dan serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   just literally just alright so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   start with David Lauren will give them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   little extra processing time David some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00   first initial thoughts about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/180">TS</a>]

00:03:01   doctor who 50th special um I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   biggest damn smile on my face through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   most of it and at the end I I was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   much a giggling wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   yeah i loved it i mean i've always said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/190">TS</a>]

00:03:14   that I prefer Moffat to Davies is as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   terms of the reboot and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:21   even when I have issues with Moffitt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   I've had issues with Moffat that episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   made up for all of its just so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   why I like him and he went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   fixed the the worst thing I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   babies ever did which was destroying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   Gallifrey it's like why would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36   that and then you know you have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   these people who can travel through time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   and fix things so i wouldn't go and fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   it and he's managed to save everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   else in the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45   why didn't he save that and boom saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/225">TS</a>]

00:03:49   done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/229">TS</a>]

00:03:49   it's like oh of course I he I know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   right Russell Davis took the Time Lords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   off the boards because they were boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   and super powerful and he wanted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   the doctor a an interesting angle to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/239">TS</a>]

00:04:03   story that he was this last survivor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   I see when you said the worst thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   Russell Davis ever did I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/247">TS</a>]

00:04:08   meant the episode the end of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11   uh-huh nobody the other one is but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   is angel eyes see it again but the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   the same thing applies which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   this episode essentially has a whole big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20   chunk that takes place kind of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21   middle of the end of time because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   actually alluded to they say though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   great High Council is meeting we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   they're doing very bad things because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   saw that in the end of time and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   thought that was interesting that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   is this is steven moffat taking having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   taken the reins three years ago from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   russell davis and or i guess going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   for years ago maybe uh and uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/281">TS</a>]

00:04:46   rewriting the most significant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   that Russell Davis did in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   doctor who sort of current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51   ecology by undoing this destruction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/291">TS</a>]

00:04:57   Gallifrey which is a I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   I thought it was interesting i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   know what it what it means for the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   the future of the show and whether this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   just sort of lays out there for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   or what but I thought I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   interesting that that it's rewriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/308">TS</a>]

00:05:09   recent Doctor Who history but yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/309">TS</a>]

00:05:14   think maybe a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   yeah you know I because i love the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   now that he's looking for home again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   he doesn't have to go there right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   you know it's just there you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   doesn't need to change anything he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   still by himself he's still doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   thing and I just I love again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/328">TS</a>]

00:05:32   how it was in and out of time in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   of events and how one thing led to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38   know here's the feds and here is jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   through and here's the Queen and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   this here's that and it all you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/341">TS</a>]

00:05:45   I saw some people on Twitter early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   ongoing how the pacing is awful like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/346">TS</a>]

00:05:50   it play for more than 20 minutes before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   you start complaining about the pacing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   mean real i thought the pace it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/354">TS</a>]

00:05:55   brilliant because yeah I thought that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   was confident enough to know that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   90 minutes essentially or 75 minutes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/359">TS</a>]

00:06:03   I was really grateful that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/363">TS</a>]

00:06:06   getting that early story and a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   large blocks rather than a deal I quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   cut back and forth back and forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   back and forth like it was it knew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   had the time to tell the story and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   wasn't it was going to take the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   yeah I actually I found it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   impressive because I felt the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   this entire season has felt a bit rushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   to me in terms of the episodes pacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   was not always my favorite and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   like we weren't spending enough time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28   developing characters are missing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   scenes etc and in contrast I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   think the pacing of this special is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   fantastic enters its fast-paced but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   take exactly the amount of time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   need to set up the scene and focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   the things that are important and crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   a few jokes too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   while still advancing the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   absolutely and and just the chemistry i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   mean it's it's no big shock attendant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   and Smith would be fantastic together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   but oh my god they're so much fun they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   really were when John her obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   whose them you are demented he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   he's like he's like he's a master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   ready will note that if you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05   anything else he's done right mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   you know the guys event so it but he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   a great job with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   why do people speak like children why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   the one part is when you can build two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   for twice the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   that's what I say so i had to contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   references anybody seen that movie John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   Hurt's in and are absolutely yeah might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23   explain some of the costs off things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   brave words dick van dyke and just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   going and I was like did I really hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   yes yes I did yeah i mean the pacing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   the beginning that was I'm glad I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   that came up because i like that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   not one of those cut and instead it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/457">TS</a>]

00:07:41   very much like okay we're gonna follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   matt smith and and it's the doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   Clara and they've got this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   beginning adventure and then we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   that the all the doctors are gonna meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/469">TS</a>]

00:07:52   and so we get John Hurt story and we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   that kind of intersection point and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   get sort of david tennant story and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   see that intersection point and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   puts them together i liked i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   and throughout the story that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   was it didn't feel slow pace to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   felt confident and it ratcheted things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   up as it went and I didn't feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/488">TS</a>]

00:08:12   was just trying to shovel for as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   in this episode I didn't feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   was you know sweaty and painting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/497">TS</a>]

00:08:21   shoveling crazy references at me every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   minute which would have been I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   understandable if that had been what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   was and you know it would have been kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   of like okay like a Halloween candy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   overlap or something right it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   feel like I'm surprised actually that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   felt like it had actually room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   breathe which it didn't have to it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   have been completely insanely packed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   yeah I was worried a little bit when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   Ingrid all girl came on-screen you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   like oh she's wearing the Fourth Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   scarf is the entire episode basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   going to be tchotchkes and memorabilia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   of previous doctors but it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   turned out to be quite subtle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   understated which I appreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   yeah absolutely Scott what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/537">TS</a>]

00:08:57   I liked it thumbs up i enjoyed a Billie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/537">TS</a>]

00:09:01   Piper's role as the conscience the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04   interface to the moment I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   was a good choice now overall it was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10   I like pacing I liked the ending I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   I'm not like a super huge long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:16   and so the shocking surprise ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:20   cameo which I knew about didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   impact me as much as I'm sure did other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   people but I don't like I found that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   yeah it was called lending and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   wrapped in enough explanation that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   could make up your own explanation about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   it but it really wasn't like the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   and which it was just kind of nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/579">TS</a>]

00:09:42   and people can dice and will and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   and are doing so right now on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   internet that's exactly what it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   but um but in the end it we got it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/587">TS</a>]

00:09:51   got a scene where Tom Baker who may or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   may not be the future version trying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/593">TS</a>]

00:09:56   old faces of the doctor but he's retired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   and he's running this is the curator of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   this bizarre museum gallery place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   having a conversation with matt smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   how great is that there's a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   between matt smith and tom baker in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   show that's cool that's and Don Baker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   for all you know the fact is he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   essentially the definitive kid actor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   played this character and we it's boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   to pick him i was saying this in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:22   doctor who episode 2 it'sit's was born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   to pick him but everybody when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   of Doctor Who I mean maybe people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28   to think of David Tennant that Smith but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   it's that guy in the scarf and a hat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   I mean that's so to have him on what who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   is not on the 20th anniversary episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   by the way is that was cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   yeah I was gonna say in contrast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   David's point as someone who really has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   only been in you know the Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46   universe since the reboot like I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   always knew the doctor as that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52   he's the last of the Time Lords identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   you know that was kind of the overriding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   image i always had of him so it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   for me necessarily the judge whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   that was for good or for ill it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   it simply was and so it was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   to take a different perspective on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   and you know it's nice that you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   show that is run long enough that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   can take the time if you'll excuse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   expression to develop those kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   stories I mean you know if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   this in an American network television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/679">TS</a>]

00:11:20   show like at the end of the first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   you would have been like oh I'm afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   not destroyed but look you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   I was eight years ago you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   we've had the show this has been running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29   for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   the current incarnation has been running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31   for eight years now and that's a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   time to tease out that plot thread but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   I'm glad because it feels like it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   significance then right after has weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   if you wait for their eight years as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   opposed to 13 episodes and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   decided to change it and so you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   feels like a big ground shift and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49   also feels like a big setting the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   moment given what we know is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   happen in the Christmas episode you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   this is a transition point i think its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   cool the idea that especially the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   that I mean you is there an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   that this this had always happened right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   yeah we get oh right so like you based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   on the nature of time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   you know this was true in very at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   beginning of the show we just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   right so that's all the fun continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   stuff that you can tease out having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   do with time travel so I'd like to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   thought that was cool to bring that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   of it was a different kind of episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   two me and I like the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   played into a lot of the mythological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   stuff and we have this incarnation the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   war doctor who is a very different type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   of doctor but in the end you know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   similar than different and it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   to have the idea of the doctors you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   saving himself too right yes I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   thought that was a nice touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   you mentioned the ground shift and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   it's coming into this steven moffat said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   he was trying to set this was about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   celebrating the last 50 but setting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   the next 50 and I thought well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   nice bit of hype but come on but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58   think you're right in that it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   some of the assumptions and grounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   and premise of the show not of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/782">TS</a>]

00:13:05   but of since 2005 has shifted with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/785">TS</a>]

00:13:09   episode that it's not about the time war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   it's not about what happened Gallifrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   is out there somewhere maybe you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   go get it but it's like you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   almost like the dot we know the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   is moving on with his life he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   resolved this issue he had about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   time war and perhaps he did it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   time traveler perhaps it was always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   way right that's always that time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   question by the way how great is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   John Hurt just keeps rolling his eyes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   all the catchphrases that the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   tiny why me and alan zi and he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/813">TS</a>]

00:13:37   my god why must you talk like what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   a great week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   you know doesn't in retrospect make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   casting of Peter Capaldi who briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   appears very very as doesn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   much more sense now but he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   about the maybe it's time to grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   yes like we've had you know three fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   young incarnations of the doctor maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   it's time that you know we have a doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/838">TS</a>]

00:13:59   who is a little more on the adult side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   and that's that to me is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   another sort of like wob setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   well you it's it's almost set up in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   episode because the future travels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   the doctor could be i'm looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   children right and in order to look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14   the children you have to be a grown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   in order to find the children of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   Gallifrey and the the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   Gallifrey very nice but you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   to say when they when they first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   announced him as being the next doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   and I thought he's got to show up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   this episode somewhere even attics stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   i was so happy to see him but even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   having predicted that I let out an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   audible yelp when he just showed up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   and my youngest son looked up with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   happens nothing nothing just get going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   just watchin watchin show but it sits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/882">TS</a>]

00:14:46   there and I I like David I I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   there's no way Steven Moffat is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   have already cast the next doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   there's no way he can resist being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   having to be the first time where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   future doctor appears earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   show there's no way he could resist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   so obviously they shot something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   probably around the same time shot Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   Smith's regeneration and dropped it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   there and said you'll be seeing him soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   and that was pretty that was pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   and it was it was quick right it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   like a whole thing I was almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   expecting that at the end instead of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   being Tom Baker coming out at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19   would be here Capaldi and with that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   the the gallery being revealed as having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   those into the gallery had those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   hexagons on the wall and I kept figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   we were just going to go out that back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   door the gallery and it was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   the TARDIS and that would be the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   right but we got it a little differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   than that but still pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35   be it may be inside somewhere it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   a latter-day Tom Baker's a partisan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   could be i wanted to somebody mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   Billie Piper I think I think Scott did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   and and as they as that sort of avatar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   of the moment it and I'll i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   the idea of the moment which was again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   dropped in the end of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   manhattan and then picked up here which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   is that I really love that it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   most horrible weapon in the universe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   it's sentient and it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   convinced to be used I think that's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   an amazing idea and then to have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   in the form of of a Billy Piper which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   gets her into this episode without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   being explaining that it's rose which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   thought was cool the great line about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   got it from your past or future i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   getting us mixed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   it's also good and she did it I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   she did a great job in that part which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   is a little bit of rows and also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   little bit of not this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   mysterious powerful force trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   guide the doctor in the right direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   i thought that was cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   well you've got somebody who's playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   the alex kingston roll who's not wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   or not river for once and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   everybody's gotten a little like I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   Alex Kingston and i love the river song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   storylines but I think everybody had got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   maybe a little burnt out on river song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   so it allows Steven Moffat to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   kind of playful i have i have cards that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   you haven't seen that are played yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   character on the show and allow them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:57   kind of leave the doctor by the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   without necessarily putting alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   kingston the role again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   well then how it was very odd to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   realize well we're never going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   scene with billie piper and david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   tennant where they talk to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   you know it's kind of strange wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12   one shot where he's like did you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13   badwater have Billie Piper just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16   smiling behind him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   well actually that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   immediately preceded by John Hurt saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   that were Wulfgar like a kiss you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   she says yeah that's gonna happen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:29   was all that was really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   somebody in the chat room is asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   talking about it's a shame that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   christopher eccleston couldn't be in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37   and it's true they had they did actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:38   when John Hurt regenerates at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   end of the episode first he says these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   bodies weren't a little thin which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   what William Hartnell says before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   regenerates and they did if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   closely it's Christopher Eccleston's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   eyes who appear just before they cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   away so they they used enough computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   graphics to imply christopher eccleston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   without without you know going further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1076">TS</a>]

00:18:00   and trying to do even more compositing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   to make it you know more clear we do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   a shot of him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   from archive footage we shot a hole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   the whole government and i like that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   there's a there's a certain element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   his aesthetic in the war doctors outfit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   with the leather jacket and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16   so I mean there's a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   continuity there which i think is nice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   also appreciate that at the very end he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   makes the comment of oh I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   remember this i'm going to you know walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   out of here still believing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   potentially destroy Gallifrey I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   good job Steven Moffat way to cover your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   bases and now but you know why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   they remember it yeah exactly exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   and and matt smith says oh i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41   I'll kind of right and and it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   moment where it's all sort of falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44   for him and it explains away why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:47   would not you know know everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   know David Tennant would know it twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   and matt smith would know it three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   it the rumor is that Steven Moffat wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56   the John Hurt part for christopher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   eccleston and then when he couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   him back he conceived this whole mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   doctor and and watching this episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   thought oh yeah that this would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   worked perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   as Christopher Eccleston's in that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   but it worked fine without and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   John Hurt is not a bad guy to catch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   renounce Messalina know he did a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   job and it actually it does play on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   because they are so young tenant and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   Smith a it works in that you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   don't have that moment like well where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25   the ninth doctor because it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   no the whole idea here is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   these two guys have lived and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   like that they look young so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   that contrast and they both talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   how many hundreds of years they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   lived quite a few hundred for David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   Tennant and another three or 400 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40   Matt Smith to think about what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   when they were John Hurt which it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   know it'sit's not implied it stated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   it's and it's part of why the decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   that they make are what they are which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   thought was really nice that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   doctor who think that a lot of times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   look you know ask me later I'll explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   it later right and instead they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   addressed it and it was part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   story where you there's a line you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   draw now from like you know the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:05   where you have the the John her doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   all the way through all what we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   that now makes you know has a nice arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12   of continuity into why even you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15   things like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   it was a doctor dances like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   yeah we're like everybody lives right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   like all of that you know there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   huge lovely line of continuity about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   the doctor makes the choices he does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   how this is shaped him and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   that's wonderful and it also allows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   whole playing with the age thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   I know the the Matt Smith dr. the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   eleventh Doctor's age I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   always been interesting which they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   of alluded to and the point where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   prisoners over is like I mean maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   lying about my age and you know you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   got an old when you can't remember how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   old you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   because they jump back and forth with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   him because there's that whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50   with the river and going well in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   of the moon and all back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   crud words like actually the older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   version of the doctor but not so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   know it's it's nice that they do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   of hand waving a couple points but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   that's alright because that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:02   the story that they're telling we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   see there is a character wearing a Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   Baker scarf that sort of strange i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   starting to wonder now if the curator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   didn't suggest that she worry I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   longer if you can wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   I mean why not interesting that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   to be Tom Baker scarf and Tom Baker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   appears the end of the aisle at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   little in 12 course but it's a yes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:22   very iconic Doctor Who memorabilia but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   at the same time like you get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   i actually I'm sure that character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   just a one-off but I almost hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   she appears again because she they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   Moffat crafted her a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   interesting leave that he does some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   his other one offs and if I mean is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   supposed to be a cure a part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   museum staff apartment you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   yeah so it's entirely I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46   entirely possible that she might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   any some kind of interaction with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   curator it can even be that that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   the Fourth Doctor got the idea to wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   that scarf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   oh yeah we just we go around in circles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   like this all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   yeah well I liked it there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   through you know again I'm you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   been watching as long as some of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   have but yeah there were some nice tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   they had two things from the earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   eras and Captain jacket to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   riversong shoes are in the black r-ky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   yeah there's lots of like little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   references to things from from earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   incarnations so it was you know I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   enjoyed little tips that they had to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   continuity especially in an issue like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   this which has so much continuity beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   the under note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   just a reference to the end of time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   here by the way is Queen Elizabeth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   first which right which in the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   time as the doctor is doing his sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   final travels before he knows he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   to go and meet his fate he mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   basically that he married Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   Elizabeth the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   so that's that's resolved here and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   that means it's it's russell davis fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   that the doctor started getting married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   and not Steven Moffat switch is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   really funny and and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   she's referenced also in the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   Shakespeare episode where I'm she tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   to to have the guards kill the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   and now we realize that's because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   married her and then disappeared and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   never came back so that was nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   then the other big reference in here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   the Zygons who were in an episode from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   1976 with tom baker and have never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   seen since he's a big funny sucker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   covered shape-shifting alien guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   and therefore and they were seen an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   episode set in Scotland and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   Steven Moffat and david tennant had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   sworn that one day they would do being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   Scotsman themselves they would get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   Zygons in an episode and they did it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   the 50th I appreciate the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   there were men in rubber suits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   absolutely is Absolut so this guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39   classic Doctor Who yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   oh wow that was really funny my my uh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   kids and I were watching this together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   and and and i said just about like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   seconds forever and always force it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:52   the horse he's like yeah it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   this is I gone there now that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56   funny it was good lot of funny stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   yeah we expect that from steve from off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   and I guess what L said and generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04   positive thoughts anything else that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   wanted to talk about in particular i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   mean i-i thought it was really fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   i thought they used Jenna Coleman well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   in the entirely throughout this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   in episode that really wasn't about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   companions they found a way to weave her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   into the story and such a way that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   not make it feel like she was just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   of hanging out at the end and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   hey guys so there's button that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:28   could press together or maybe not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   you already have sort of rose playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   this bad wolf character I I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:36   that when they do have her in the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   she's actually making some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   effect and basically standing in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   Humanity in some ways while while Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   Piper's characters sort of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   compass on one end of the spectrum she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   kind of like the compass for well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   remember what you've become remember all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   the other things that you can do don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56   forget Clarence job is to say the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and as we saw in the the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   doctor the last episode of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   season she didn't she didn't see John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   Hurt's doctor she never got a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   save him and is that not what she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   by saying mmm maybe you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   destroy Gallifrey I mean in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   she saved her job is to say the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   she saved the doctor by having him not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   destroy his planet in the end which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   kinda cool and she was yeah she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   never in that traditional companion mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   she was very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   I don't know it will be interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   see how they portray her going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   because she's had that moment we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   about where she saved him already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   you could say her story is done or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   could look at it and say look she's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   an expert she's seen everything there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   to see about the doctor she like totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   gets it now and that's what she was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   this episode she was like everything she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   did and suggested was right on the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   it wasn't you know she she knew what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   was doing and she say she saved the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:46   in the end in one way by being the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   to say you don't need to do this you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   know what you're letting yourself down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52   if you go ahead with us and then setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   it up for the next generation you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   the possibility of having a companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   who knows even more about the doctor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   some ways than he does about himself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   I was gonna say the overall i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   enjoyed it as well I also like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   clear front that in that very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   scene you get that call out to the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   doctor with a foreman right cousin that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   the his granddaughter's last angry when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   I was the very first scene even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   than that the first thing of this shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   the sign pointing toward the junkyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   which is where the TARDIS was but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   at coal Hill School which is where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   first see Susan and her two teachers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   become a barbarian who become the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   other companion along with Susan and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   the sign it says the head of the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   of governors I chesterton which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   that the guy who who is the head of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   board of governors that school is ian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41   from the first episode of Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   which is pretty awesome so that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46   they did the tip of the cap right at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   beginning and then they had a motorcycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49   drive right into the TARDIS which by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   way was really awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   was i I was gonna say my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   disappointment though which was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:58   the time war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   it felt kind of pedestrian to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   you're kind of imagine think the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04   just shouldn't imagine like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   people who have the power to manipulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08   time and space you feel like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   this kind of conflict that's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   unfathomable like multi-layered hugely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:16   crazy conflict and at the end of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   it's people shooting at each other which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   is a little which is spectacular but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   like a little bit like a Time Lord so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   they're basically just people got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   somebody looking for more like a looper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   type special effects were composed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   suddenly started disappearing I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   thought about that too i mean i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   explain about away by saying this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   like the ground war in the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   invasion and it has to be done by force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   and that across the rest of the galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:43   obviously crazy time things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   happening or what a reference that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   all the worlds that get burned away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   everything that all the ripple effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   right but you're absolutely right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   as spectacular and it was and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56   this is doctor who this is really these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   are great special effects at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   time I was like it is a lot of pewpewpew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   of laser peeps you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   yeah the laser beams look good they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   good lady didn't look around you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   felt a little weird because it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   watching and crazy dominating the shops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   and stuff you didn't feel like Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   Lords did you know that doctor who could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   yeah I know what the heck is that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   that was that was that was cool i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   clearly there's a horrible class system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   on Gallifrey because better like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   time lords who have their little outfits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   in their little hood since things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   their net and this is the stuff that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   time surface everybody else has got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   robes and is out in the dirt running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37   around at the time presents i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   those are the Gallifrey ends right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   not Time Lords there the because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   other the time presents you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   ten-time service and maybe we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   out in a in a future episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   maybe when they find out I i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   looking forward to an episode that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52   entirely about the social hierarchy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   Gallifrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   oh I think they did that in the tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   baker and it was really boring trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   negotiations Jason oh yeah as exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   as trading home and that's that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   was afraid they were going there with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   Saigon you guys sit down and negotiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   something like oh I don't call them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   Trade Federation here that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14   really bad but instead they liked left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   me like see we have a thing we gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   to now so you guys just work it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20   then we didn't see them again like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   dropping that plot now we're done it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   done let's see what else what else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   talk about here i mean i thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   a fun i thought it was a funny episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   i'm looking forward to actually seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   it in 3d which I'm going to see on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   monday i'm just because i have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   headache will it give me but I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   give it a go there were a few moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   where I was like that's that's there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   be i bet that spectacular in 3d but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:46   love how all the paintings have ios7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   clearly haha that's right that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:53   it did kind of scare me with Gallifrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:57   Falls no more of their like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00   we're gonna you know throw a Dalek out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   of the painting as we emerge from it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   then it started to wonder I'm like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   we going to find ourselves a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   episode where Dalek suddenly start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   pouring out of the paintings in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   National Archives what is it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   everybody started the Daleks because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   they kept coming back like they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   there's like eight episodes with dogs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   the mood at the time or was it did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   work disaster terrible plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   what else to talk about in here we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:25   the big the strange museum the black the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:30   black bag gallery of art black archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   where you cannot invitar started even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   the TARDIS can go and so they do a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   clever thing which is they go like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   Gallifrey and then go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   painting it's like all right I'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   ok let's cover the of the moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:47   she just looks because can't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   once walked by a fence without picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   up around like out David tendencies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   fuzzies like oh I'll put this on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   yeah they're tired i do really enjoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   interactions between the two doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   wouldn't have gotten that much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   modern era except for a couple little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   one off you know there's the père David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   Rizzio one off but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   I really enjoyed the most likely they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   putting on the glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   yeah your type of admiring each other's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   glasses and we're making fun of each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   other for wearing with Sam shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   yeah right and the you know at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:23   where they're doing the negotiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   thing they both put their feet up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   table and everything that they do a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   job of of the again you have characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   you have actors playing two characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33   who are the same character but also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   the same character which is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   interesting to watch when you put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   in a room together especially when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40   have you know someone like the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   who's supposed to be so brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   it's interesting to see to note these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   similarities and the differences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   terms of how they portray them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   would they're a great combination really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   funny I I felt in some ways this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   Steven Moffat tribute to the the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   TV episode the three doctors because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   it's the same it's a very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   dynamic where you got the current doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   and the most recent doctor and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   a little bit of a sparring relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   in fact right down to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   Patrick Troughton and the three doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   says exactly what David Tennant says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   which is you've redecorated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   I don't like it Anna and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   the older previous doctor who thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   that there's something wrong with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   of them which is William Hartnell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:21   mrs. John heard and so it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   bit of that same sort of like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   that was pretty good dynamic let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   that again and it was that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   a lot of fun and those two guys together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   yeah they were that they were great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   have to say somebody who really loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   loves loves the the david tennant era it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   was so great to have David Tennant back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   as the doctor for a little while and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   some new scenes including having his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   clothing line be exactly the same so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   can once again say the last thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   ever heard the tenth doctor says I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   want to go because he says it again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   it was great to see him and have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   when I talk about the pacing earlier one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   of the things i liked is we got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   chunk of david tennant's little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   adventure before the plot came in before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   the mat smith stuff Karen so we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   little like many little glimpse into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   unseen Tenth Doctor adventure and got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   see your old friend again which is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   of what this is episode is trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   so that was great to love seeing him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:16   kind of pop in I know where I love david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   tennant's so much and his humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   again like you think that it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   in my memory I seem to remember David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   Tennant and matt smith being sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   similarly played doctors and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   you see them actually face-to-face you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   like no David Tennant has this wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   sort of subset of mannerisms and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   witticisms and jokes that I was like God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   forgot that i missed you so much right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   now but he's got it I had this argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   with people when I think he matt smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   first came on its like the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   Matt's the 11th doctor said he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   little more alien and a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   wacky then then David Tennant the tenth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:53   doctors a little more charming right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   doesn't think at the end to worry kisses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   Clara's hand and then kind of like winks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   at the 11th doctor you know he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   there both you know they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01   handsome men whatever but they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   know they're there are they take it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   slightly different directions in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   of how they deal with other people where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   you know the mat smith character right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   from like fish fingers and custard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11   kind of gawky and bizarre and and David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:15   handle on the other hand has a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   self-assured smoothness to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:20   yeah yeah it's definitely he can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:24   do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:24   I mean that was that was think it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   been three or four years right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   so of course you can but it was great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   be reminded like he's still still got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   he can still do that they apparently on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   the set they were joking they went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   Steven Moffat while they were shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:36   and knowing that this wasn't a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   possibility but they that Matt Smith and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   David Tennant went to Steven Moffat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   said we got an idea for you the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   let's do you know four episodes with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   at four episodes with him and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:51   know four episodes were work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52   just do that and and and and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:57   like all you know that would be stoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   Stephen off its head explode that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   that would be great yeah speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   speaking events and adventures with how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   do you think the night of the doctor fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   in with all this the the palm against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   guising fall again appear yes I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   delightfully I mean just because it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   was glad that it had not been spoiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   for me so that when you like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   i-i've done again either i've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   never seen the doctor who movie but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   knew enough about it to know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   who he was and things like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   anyone else and not watch it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:33   why you have actually began in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   roles masses you know smart familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   with him as an actor but it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   funny to you know see him a you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:44   the doctor you're expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   yes good punch and there was there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:49   probably my favorite moment and again he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   was like oh my calendar because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:54   it was a it went live just as my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   get on the school bus one morning and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   just had dental you know what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:02   I don't care because I don't want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   spoiled and Susie pop music I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:09   doctor but not when you're expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:10   like ah i was i was just up and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:14   tea and in at you know six thirty in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   morning and there was a tweet that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   just like they posted the night of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   doctor and so I got to see it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   even seeing Paul McGann anywhere and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   was sitting there thinking come on Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   McGann publication it's probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   yeah and you know he is that TV movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   isn't isn't good i like to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   that that that short redeemed him and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   got to see him in a and he's good he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   good actor he's great in the audios and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   so to get him a little more screen time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   and I like how it links it in it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   this is what happened with the doctor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   that Paul McGann got kind of pulled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   the time war but refused and said no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   gonna just a minister to people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   sidelines and then at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   what happened is it got to the point was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   what I watching today right before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   the new episode was on was like it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   so bad that not only couldn't he save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   the woman on the spaceship but she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   willing to sacrifice her own life just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   to kill a Time Lord because they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   that was that bad and that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   that precipitates him being like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   right I got to do something different i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   can't ignore this anymore and that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   the John Hurt incarnations we get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   sort of where he came from and that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   was young right they used footage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   john hurt from like the late seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   early eighties in that reflection at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   very end to imply that he you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   we see him in India the doctor he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31   had a long life fighting the time war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   and we're catching him at kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   exhausted at the very end the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   where they the the sisterhood gives him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   the potion and says yeah because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:44   points out that they have the secret too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:47   eternal boredom or eternal is funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   I'm kind of wondering if that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   tie in with oh wow he now has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   regeneration because now he has eternal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   I don't know yeah that's a better brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   of morbius reference from the seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   but you know I whether whether I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   think that's I don't think I'm gonna tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   into a way minisode but it did it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   sort of plant the seed that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   lots of different ways to to do to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   regenerations but I was it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   reference i actually thought one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   funniest things in there is when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   say you have full minutes to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   he said that's ages anyone for chest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   bring me knitting very very funny i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:27   want to make a mention of from the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   day of the doctor the three charges with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   their various different yeah thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   something yeah we have though which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36   of them is my it's the one that had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   crab cakes yeah dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   although he laughs because it's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   kidding i know of course which one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   mine is like which one of mine rolleyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   and then often goes yeah that was a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   was a nice moment that you know makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   fans happy to see all the all the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   many TARDISes and the interiors bumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:54   around through the different interiors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   and different the circle things i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:57   the circle things with a 40 ideal know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   that was really that was really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   have a flash through them to that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   like you know what you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   hand-waving explanation of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   does it look like this one and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   one and then this one is like back it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   started doing a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   whatever let's move on but if we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   see them all that I also loved the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   line you know you can't trust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   Americans haven't you seen the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   yeah and that's a nice little big guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   what would they do with time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24   yes ya can't be allowed we should also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:27   mention that one of the things the BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   posted today was a 30-minute long comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:32   movie written and directed by peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   davison it's on bbc's website will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   it in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   it it's hilarious and the entire plot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   it is it's called the five ish doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   reunion or reboot the five ish doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:45   reboot and it's the plot is Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   Davison Colin Baker sylvester mccoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   occasionally paul mcgann and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:54   voicemail of Tom Baker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   are are desperately trying to get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00   50th anniversary in some way shape or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:04   form and uh the and it's very funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:08   there is actually something interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   at the end you're like huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   could that be them hidden away we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   we'll never know but it's worth watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   if you liked especially old doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   at all because it's it's it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   funny bit and there are a lot of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   cameos in it there's a great bit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   john barrowman in it and it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   watching it's very very funny and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   think my favorite line in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   thing that's probably when colin baker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   at some point says to Sylvester McCoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   what you're in The Hobbit why aren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   talking about that because i won't shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   up about being in the hobbit so I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:43   my favorite line and I won't spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   anything about it but my favorite line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   would be Moffat calling his secretary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   and saying make sure I'm not disturbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   to the rescue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51   yes yes yes after getting off getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   another with yet another voicemail from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   peter davison asking just making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   aware that he's available for the 50th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   anniversary if they would like to cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   him in something very very funny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   it's on the BBC website it's not a even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   a side project thing it's like done by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   the BBC with Peter Davison and gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:14   attendance and briefly and david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   tennant's wife who's Peter Davison's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   daughter isn't it briefly and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   funny worth watching and the voicemail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   of Tom Baker is it it's true there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   that there's a five doctors joke it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:27   actually which is fantastic so never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   before will you laughs at the nokia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   ringtone generic nokia ringtone as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36   will laugh in that in that episode so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   all right well what have we left behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   anything else we wanna know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   haven't covered that we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   about about this episode is it Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:47   oh man it's closed and soon according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:51   the malls yes very very close and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54   there'll be another episode we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   there was a little teaser at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   this which just showed many you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   showed weeping angels and Daleks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   cyber men and silence and said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:07   this what's the name of this planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   Mandalore and silence will fall and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   was the end so it's the Steven Moffat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   tries to wrap up all of his dangling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   plot threads and sent Matt Smith off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   a little more than a month but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   all that was really in it that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   what the announcer said there wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25   Steven Moffat will now attending tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   that would be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   the doctor will return in Steven Moffat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:33   yes anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   no I'm just ready to watch it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:40   yeah yeah I'm gonna watch it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   couple more times sure mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   alright well this was a lot of fun i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   love i love doing this let's do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:48   again on Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:49   how about that your we can do it we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:53   do it we have the technology dan dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   will be somewhere with where with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   internet and he'll dial-in from a rotary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   phone and we will be sending my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   contributions via time Telegraph out I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   Telegraph that's a good one ya see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   because if you go by the rotary phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   you might get sucked into the matrix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   that's a whole yeah I I said wrong turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   somewhere different different podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   alright well then i would like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   my participants in the flash flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   podcast for their flash participation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   David lower thanks for dialing in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   talking about Doctor Who for for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   little bit thanks i'm always happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   flash ways it's huh got off Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:32   McNulty you dinner has gotten cold but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   thanks for being here trap travel back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   in time yes but I can't go back in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   own timeline so i'm screwed made time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   can be rewritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   you can get that you can use time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   power of time travel to make sure your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   dinner is slightly less cold put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   my pocket or a microwave you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   also use that and then I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   Billy papers in the corner waiting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   help you warm it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   yes the battle buddy I gotta go yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   dance and Dan Morgan thank you i'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:05   that i was able to process all 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:06   minutes of this flash cast in about four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   seconds you're brilliant like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   certainly called well as always thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   you for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   and as always thank you for inviting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   and man I can't wait to watch the teaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   for the next episode have it on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   television right now we're excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   alright alright and it wouldn't be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24   flash cast without you and thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   everybody out there for listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26   this unedited flash sudden thing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   uncomfortable we will see you again next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   weekend for regular episode and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:36   see you with another flash cast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   Christmas for Matt Smith lands oops oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2677">TS</a>]

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00:44:45   been your host I until I regenerate into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   Peter Capaldi be huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:51   thanks for listening being comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   goodnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaPAVo8/2693">TS</a>]