The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable number 347 April 2017 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► incomparable i'm your host Jason snow [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► this is one of those ridiculous episodes [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► where we draft things what we're [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► drafting this time is Star Trek episodes [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► so any Star Trek series is eligible but [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► it has to be a TV series no movies [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► movies cannot be drafted and the only [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► other rule that I've given my panelists [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► is that episodes labeled as part 1 and [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► part 2 can be considered a hole for the [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► purposes of this but if there isn't a [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► label you can't consent you can't draft [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► like the whole you know last season of [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► deep space nine not allowed not allowed [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► joining me to draft things because I [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► love it so much are the following people [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► David jail or hello hi I'm starting with [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► the magics of mega stew yeah that's good [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► i mean animated series episodes their [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► land right out there get that gadget [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► don't get the jihad in there no one's [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► gonna snake those no definitely not [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► justin michael is here as well hi Justin [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► ah I tomar I pants yeah you tore your [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► pants hey I got some in real trouble now [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► no one No well we'll get to that okay [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► reference not acknowledged but we'll get [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► to it aleem Simms is here hello hello I [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► want for the record to say that I called [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► all of my episodes on Twitter earlier so [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► nobody can take them I already called it [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► i think not allowed but very well ah [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► yeah you know who isn't here Joe [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► rosenstiel was supposed to be here but [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► sadly he's not in Dan Warren also sadly [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► not here but you know sometimes in [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► fantasy sports drafts you set up the [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► computer to auto pick for you and indeed [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► those fellows will be Auto picking as we [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► go followed by of course last but not [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► least at all the host of random Trek on [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► this very podcast network of Scott [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► McNulty hi Scott hello I don't think I'm [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► actually last though and of course I [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► will pick last because that's a thing I [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► do as your gracious host so that order [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► in which you heard people David Justin [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► alene Joe and Dan robo picking Scott and [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► then me is the order of this draft I [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► don't like these robo pickings going [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► before me I say people before robots [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► fair point they are now [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► me in the order how about that there you [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► go Scott see i like i like away I like [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► the cut of your jib mr. I like the way [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► you think another win for McNulty that's [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► right well let's we'll we'll go a few [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► rounds and pick some great Star Trek [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► episodes and we're going to begin the [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► first round with David jail or who [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► random.org has selected to pick first uh [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► go ahead David why is your choice well [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► I'm kind of stunned that I get to go [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► first i picked like all these extra this [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► huge list just in case but i am going to [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► go with my very favorite episode of any [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► Star Trek so far the visitor from deep [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► space 9 it's just a wonderful meditation [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► on family and fathers and sons it's a [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► story that starts with a young woman [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► coming coming to a house in the rain and [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► she's she's trying to get an interview [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► with this reclusive elderly reclusive [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► author and it turns out to be Jake Sisko [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► and he doesn't want to talk to her but [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► he finally relents he lets her in [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► because it's pouring rain and he starts [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► to tell the story of how he lost his [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► father how his father was ripped out of [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► time front by you know sciency things [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► particles he in many many years many [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► many years ago those particles and but [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► he would periodically reappear over time [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► and every few years he would you would [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► be there they couldn't they couldn't [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► communicate with him but you know he's [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► sort of haunting them a little bit [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► uh-huh and and it is a wonderful story [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► about writing it's a wonderful story [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► about the bond between a father and a [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► son and it's it's just a lovey a lovey [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► resolution to it too because of course [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► of course they saved Jacob they save Ben [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► Sisko and that future does not happen [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► but it's it's just it the first time I [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► thought of it you know it's like Oh what [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► are your favorite episodes oh well city [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► on the edge of forever everyone picks [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► city on the edge of forever and I went [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► you know actually I think it's the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► visitor now it just it hit me right dead [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► center in the chest which a lot of shows [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► do not Deep Space nine Episode first off [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► the board that is [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► amazing and Dan didn't even have to be [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► here hmm suck it will be Lauren it's a [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► good episode I'm not going to deny it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► it's a good episode of course in the end [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► wacky time high jinks make it not ever [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► happen have happened well that is the [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► problem that's that's kind of common in [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► Trek one of my favorite things in that [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► episode though is that Jake cisco's [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► novel is a hardcover novel and it has [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► like a little hologram on the cover [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► because it's a book from the future [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► that's right still a paper book but it's [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► got a holographic cover so you know it's [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► from space and it is Tony Todd as [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► elderly Jake Sisko yeah which is lovely [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► casting so when episode of deep space 9 [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► that features almost none of the actual [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► cast of the show interesting Justin [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► what's your choice I'm gonna surprise [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► everyone with another Deep Space nine [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► Episode oh I know I know and I've got to [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► go within the pale moonlight the episode [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► yeah episode in which crossing yeah like [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► he might have had an inside track I [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► don't know Robo Dan and Robo Joe both [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► cry out it's as if to Robo voices have [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► been silenced it's such an incredible [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► episode you've got Garrick in it which [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► Garrick oh I love me some Garrick and [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► you got Cisco with battling has morals [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► throughout the entire thing that the way [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► they tell the story through his [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► captain's log oh so so good and and the [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► the writing just spot on that line [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► toward the end where garrix you know [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► telling him like you know you just you [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► basically just turned the tide of the [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► war and all the cost was you know the [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► the life of one criminal one Romulan [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► senator and the self-respect of one [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► federation captain that sounds like a [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► bargain to me so good yeah I think [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► that's the one that's the episode that [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► comes up all the time as the classic [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► Deep Space nine Episode that that you [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► need to know the whole story for it to [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► get the weight but that's the one where [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► it all comes comes comes to a head so it [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► was it was number one on Joe's list and [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► Dan's list by the way I'm just I'm not [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► kidding it it was number two on mine [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► and it has maybe my very favorite last [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► moment in deep space 9 where you know [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► the whole thing is cisco telling us in [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► flashback as a log entry and the very [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► last moment he just says computer delete [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► log and kind of looks at the camera they [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► just do that they just did no although [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► that does speak to once again a shocking [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► lack of security in stock because why [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► are you gonna tell this entire story to [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► your log and then not even securely [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► delete it you just normally delete it [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► that could be recovered from the [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► computer it's not good says computers do [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► not spy on us and are not tools of [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► espionage that's crazy talk especially [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► not if it's a Cardassian built-in [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► computer yeah you're speaking out loud [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► in an office that could be bugged or [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► yeah mozhet did what were you saying cat [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► the next the next day that knock on [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► cisco's door and it's like what we wait [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► we heard your luggage come with us you [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► have a few questions about this deleted [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► log entry and I said delete it oh [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► nothing gets deleted in Starfy plate Ben [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► you should have known that um aleem [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► what's your choice alright I am going [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► with the next generation the inner light [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► oh yeah so this is my number one [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► all-time favorite Star Trek episode it's [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► um after school when I was growing up I [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► would come home and they had like these [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► four hours of Star Trek blocks of the [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► next generation blocks and every time [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► this came on I stopped everything [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► dropped everything I was doing so [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► basically the plot is an alien probe [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► causes Picard to live a different life [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► time in a matter of minutes he lives an [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► entire lifetime and he he is married he [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► has kids and he puts on sunscreen don't [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► forget that son sunscreen he likes to [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► play the flute who wears a hat the Hat [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► the planet is destroyed because of [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► climate change its kind of weird but I [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► love the episode and it doesn't hurt [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► that the clothes [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► just that I've ever heard my name on TV [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► is in this episode because his um his [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► wife's name and as he's going through [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► this kind of brain life is as Eileen I [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► think is how they say and um and so I [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► pick inner light okay everybody get out [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► your flutes it's time to play and cry oh [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► I got up my pen and crossed it off my [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► list yes I was so get your portable [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► pianos oh also also note another episode [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► three episodes if our two of which have [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► mostly not featured the regular cast [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► that's true that's now I love the inner [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► light although having watched recently [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► for a random Trek it does occur to me [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► that this is a horrific event in Captain [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► Picard's life yeah he lives this whole [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► life it loses all these people and he's [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► just fine at the end of it it's like [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► everybody's cool no no no he warns it [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► throughout he picks up that flute and he [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► he grabs the flute and you definitely [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► looks out the window and the sixth [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► episode every smiling at my headcanon [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► you know Troy gave him a like a like a [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► mental block or something after that [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► just like she just came in to forget you [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► know that's totally valid for people [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► with telepathic powers to just say [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► forget to their captain every now and [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► then if they're bumming out alright [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► that's a great one Ally and that was on [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► my list and I have now cross it out so [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► take that me Scott what's your choice [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► well I am surprised or maybe I'm not [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► surprised that it has gotten to me and [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► there have been no original series [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► episodes chosen and I know that Jason is [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► next and he will probably be picking at [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► original series episode you may not but [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► i will pick an episode that's already [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► been mentioned but not picked the city [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► on the edge of forever ah yep which is [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► mean it's a cliche to pick it and call [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► it the best Star Trek episode ever but [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► guess what it is the best Star Trek [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► episode ever and that's why it is a [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► cliche it is also another one of these [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► episodes that is doesn't take place on [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► the ship doesn't feature a lot [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► the cast I mean features the main [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► Trinity there except dr. McCoy is a [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► little crazy pants in this heavily [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► feature bit but this is Edith Keeler a [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► time-travel guardian this episode is [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► fantastic if you're listening to this [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► episode of the incomparable and you have [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► not for some reason seen the city on the [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► edge of forever take out whatever device [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► you're listening on press pause and go [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► watch the one dude and then come back i [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► endorsed that hey everybody welcome back [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► wasn't that a good episode see see why I [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► picked it it all makes sense now Scott [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► yeah it's a great episode it is it is I [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► I struggled about where to put it on my [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► list mostly because it does seem so [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► obvious now and I had that was my [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► favorite Star Trek episode for a long [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► time and I feel like it's not anymore [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► mostly because of just a familiarity [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► with it it was for so long and I saw in [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► so many times and over the years I've [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► come to appreciate other episodes in [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► ways that I didn't but I think it's not [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► entirely fair because it was just it i [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► also own like I own the original [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► screenplay I own the graphic novel of [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► the adaptation of the original [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► screenplay it was the it was the first [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► VHS tape i bought a Star Trek yeah I [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► mean it there is a facility to the [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► storytelling in that that is an economy [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► to it but at the same time when I watch [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► it now and I can kind of go well again [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► is speeding up a little bit there it's [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► little you know it's still 60s TV [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► storytelling it's very good 60s TV swing [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► yeah there might actually be original [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► series episodes I like better than that [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► too and I love Harlan Ellison so yeah [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► but it's certainly top five of all for [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► me alright it's my turn and despite [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► Scott's sureness surety sure Oh [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► confidence that I would pick a TOS [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► episode I am wasted on my own Picard i'm [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► not i'm not i was shocked when i put [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► this list together earlier today but it [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► had to be done the episode though I did [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► not want anyone else to pick more than [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► any other was Joe Manaus keys Darmok [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► from Star Trek The Next Generation which [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► is my favorite Star Trek episode [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► period bar none that that is that is it [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► I love it I love everything about it [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► Picard's got his crazy like leather [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► epaulet 'add jacket that he wears in [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► that one so that he has those strange [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► gray shirt underneath it's like his [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► version of Kirk's weird blouse that he [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► wore sometimes there's a really great [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► mystery with the tomariians they've got [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► a powerful spaceship they speak a [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► language nobody understands it's got a [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► fun performance by paul winfield as who [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► we all know is captain Tyrell from Star [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► Trek to as the captain of the tomariians [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► ship who does not understand what the [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► heck of the the the humans are saying [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► and they don't understand him and he's [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► trying to get them to understand and [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► when you watch it back having figured [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► out what he's saying you can see his [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► frustration like come on why don't you [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► get this and the thing about it that I [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► think is legitimately great is the [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► concept of using metaphors to tell a [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► story by the end you've intuitive what [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► the metaphors are and literally if you [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► just go back and watch the episode again [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► now you can understand everything that [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► they're saying and because the episode [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► has done that to you and it's tragic the [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► captain Dave on dies Picard can't save [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► him because they're trying to rescue him [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► the enterprise's in peril so there's [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► some excitement in the two there were [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► the quiet moments by the campfire his [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► possessions and like the inner light [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► which has that sad moment at the very [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► end where Picard clutches the flute in [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► this one I really love at the very end [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► he offers the little metal like cymbals [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► and things that captain day thumb is [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► brought down on to Ella dro he offers [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► them all back to the his his the people [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► on the ship and and I'd like and the [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► knife and they're like no you keep it [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► and he salutes him with it at the end [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► it's the same kind of emotional note at [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► the end for Picard so I love it Darmok [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► it's the best I love it yeah I cross [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► that off my list and I I won a bet with [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► myself oh yeah you thought that would be [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► my pick I just won ten dollars for [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► myself congratulations Wow shake shake [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► shake your head in latinum don't be a [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► sore loser it / winter hey I will try [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► suck at me osc I tried I tried there you [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► go Scott look at that you proved me [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► wrong yea though I do show Darmok [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► love Darmok as well I have yet another [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► nitpick about Darmok though because [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► there is a scene where data and Troy are [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► trying to figure out you know where [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► these allegory metaphors could come from [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► and they're like I don't know we have [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► this giant powerful computer maybe we [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► could run some searches yeah and they [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► these are like the worst google searches [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► every are they I don't understand why [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► they don't figure this out almost [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► immediately with the help of the [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► computer but Starfleet computers are [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► built on Alta Vista yeah it's ask jeeves [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► these oh Jesus a hologram you can get in [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► the holodeck 2 if you want doesn't know [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► what anything is he's very unhelpful [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► very good sense all right it is time for [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► the Robo pics from Joe steel and Dan [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► Morin Joe is picking from deep space 9 [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► Deep Space nine again what is going on [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► because it's the best series Joe is [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► picking Paradise Lost which is the he [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► says unofficial part 2 of home front I [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► could have Robo Joe parachute in from [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► another time zone and tell me why he [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► picked Paradise Lost maybe we'll do that [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► so Paradise Lost was not my first pick [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► although I am surprised at whenever so [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► poorly Paradise Lost is about the [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► Federation the heart of the Federation [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► earth being taken over from the inside [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► in a coup a military coup by Admiral [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► Leyton who's played by Robert Foxworth [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► and he's notable for being of Babylon 5 [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► fame and also he would go on to play [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► almost exactly the same role in a Vulcan [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► Ark of enterprise episodes in season 4 [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► but this one Paradise Lost the the [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► second part the unofficial second part [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► of homecoming they don't don't have part [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► 1 and part 2 so that in qualify but at [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► this one I feel is the more important of [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► the two episodes because they have to [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► deal with the actual coup occurring [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► whereas the first one is definitely [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► setting up the coup you have Benjamin [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► Cisco's father brock peters also at [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► merle Cartwright appearing you have the [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► the captain of the Lakota who is sent [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► out to do battle with the Defiant which [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► was a big deal to Federation ships [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► squaring off both thinking the other [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► needed to do what it needed to do and [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► Admiral Layton's plans all fall apart [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► and you see that Earth is not so easy to [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► control through fear so I i really think [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► that it's it's quite an outstanding [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► early episode of deep space 9 it [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► certainly is not the height of the [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► Dominion War arc so that's that's one of [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► the reasons why I picked it and with a [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► final pick of the first round Robo dan [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► Morin selects an episode that was on my [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► list the twisty turny brannon braga [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► episode from the next generation cause [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► and effect in which the enterprise is [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► destroyed every time every every cept [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► the last one it's great on my list as [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► well this was probably I think the first [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► full episode of Star Trek that I ever [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► actually saw and it was shown to me by [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► my cousins and I remember watching it in [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► my end uncle's house when I was probably [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► a teenager of some variety I being a [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► very interesting episode and kind of [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► exciting i love the time travel element [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► of it it's hard to understate how [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► interesting it is you know to come into [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► a show and basically have the premise [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► that the starship gets destroyed and so [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► i had no idea what was going on but i [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► remembered vividly to these days so many [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► of the aspects of this and when i [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► rewatched it recently I it maize me how [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► many lines of dialogue I remembered and [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► just some of the shots and the overall [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► plot now what I like best about this is [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► that it's it's a mystery episode you [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► don't really know what's going on and of [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► course it starts out in in media res [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► with the enterprise exploding and [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► everybody you know Picard telling [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► everybody to abandon ship and then [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► suddenly you're back to where you [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► started before so obviously I imagine [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► that some of the idea behind this [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► probably came from something like well I [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► was going to say came from groundhog day [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► but groundhog day actually apparently [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► aired or was released afterwards so [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► interesting that those came out around [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► the same time [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► um the the the time loop aspect upon [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► revisiting it I felt like maybe it [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► doesn't make quite as much sense like [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► why do they remember some things now [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► things but there's there's some hand [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► waving that goes on there I'm okay with [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► it because the premise of it is set up [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► very interestingly I imagine this was a [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► big challenge to shoot as an episode too [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► just because you have to do the same [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► scenes over and over again and you have [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► to sort of make them interesting every [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► time this episode was directed by [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► Jonathan Frakes and he does a nice job [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► of trying to figure out ways to shoot [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► the scenes differently so like if you [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► look at the poker game every time [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► they're playing it it's in different [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► different orders or different angles you [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► know sometimes how from above sometimes [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► shot from eye level like it's it's well [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► done I really also enjoy that this is an [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► episode that gives Beverly a chance to [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► sort of take the reins she's the one who [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► starts to like put together what's going [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► on it's nice because I feel like she [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► doesn't get a lot of episodes that focus [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► on her there's a nice bit with obviously [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► when they figure out what's going on [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► they managed to send a message via data [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► and we have this wonderful scenes all [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► the threes popping up that eventually [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► tells them that that commander Riker [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► solution is the right one and i love the [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► callback and sort of continuity stuff at [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► the end when we discover that the other [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► ship that they're about to run into is [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► Captain by Kelsey Grammer from cheers [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► and that it's you know they're wearing [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► the old Star Trek Star Trek movie era [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► uniforms the red uniforms and they've [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► been stuck in that time loop for a [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► really long time and I was kind of [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► wondering I'm sure there are secondary [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► novels and stuff to deal with it but I [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► love the idea of all these people who [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► have been stuck there for like 80 years [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► and are just like oh well we're out now [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► I guess we should go about our lives and [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► and wow you guys have great new [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► technology this is this is fantastic so [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► I liked this episode a lot and it's [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► really stuck with me for a long time I [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► know people rip on Brannon Braga for [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► other shows and other things but that is [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► a legitimately great episode of TNG it [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► is I think the problem that I have with [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► it is just that I feel like you wanted [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► to redo that episode of more times and [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► so that you see more [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► Timescape is kind of like this and there [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► are different variations on it including [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► one that's still on my list but this one [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► is I think the best one right and plus [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► kelsey Grammer's in it at the end which [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► is wacky yeah I love that all right that [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► first round is done just to total it up [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► one original series episode 3 next [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► generation episodes 3 deep space nine [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► episodes other series are also star trek [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► David Laura let's start the second round [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► with you I you know I'm because I'm [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► looking at my list here because I didn't [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► put them in any kind of order um this is [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► like a tech yeah it seems like maybe uh [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► you need to do more homework there David [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► do you need to pass you need to skip [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► around my I might pick another original [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► series episode Mirror Mirror the first [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► time we see the mirror universe is and [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► it's you know it's it's parked all kinds [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► of you know several episodes of deep [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► space nine at least you know a pair of [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► episodes and enterprise it sparked a lot [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► of fan fiction including a very famous [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► story visit to a weird planet and visit [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► to a weird planet revisited and it is [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► just again it's the economy of 60s TV [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► storytelling it is very straightforward [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► and simple but it shows us a wonderful [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► variation of an evil enterprise and the [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► Imperial Starfleet and you know a Sulu [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► who is ruthless and scarred and a [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► Chekhov who hopes to advance through [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► assassination and then gets thrown in [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► the agony booth for his troubles and [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► where he gets to scream which is you [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► know what a check out strengths if [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► you're gonna have screaming go to check [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► off and a very clever plot and way of [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► resolving it again and leaving a very [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► conflicted evil spock and we don't know [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► what will happen and of course it was [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► irresistible for deep space nine to go [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► back and do do a whole string of [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► episodes [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► set in the mirror universe and we find [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► that what we suspected might happen with [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► Spock kind of failed miserably right [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► which is very interesting at least [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► backfired that's what back siren says he [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► did actually take over the right yeah [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► the empire but then it fell I guess it's [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► what deeper bass nonsense and it's it's [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► just it's a really you know for all for [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► all the shows i mean the 60s is filled [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► with TV shows that did the evil twin or [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► the evil variation and you know even [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► even just in that genre this is maybe [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► the best of those plus you have the [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► Tantalus field yeah sure that's wrong [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► it's all it's all good i like the ending [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► students woman where where the the woman [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► from the other other other enterprise [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► comes on as a crew transfer and and [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► that's a funny little kind of ending [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► coda they're also yes Chekov screams a [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► lot I think at one point they hang him [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► on the wall and you know when you hang [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► check up on the wall in the first act he [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► got a fire in later he has to go off [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► yeah it's really bad joke sorry I [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► apologize I apologize I'm just proud [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► that I wasn't the one who made that [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► because I'm a sucker for Chico's gun ah [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► Justin what do you have for us well that [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► was an excellent pic of an external [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► episode allow me to pair it with another [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► mirror universe episode that is also [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► excellent um like like bookends you know [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► the the first Mirror Mirror Mirror [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► Universe episode was respect now let me [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► pick the last mirror universe episode in [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► a mirror darkly from enterprise you [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► picked an enterprise episode yes I did [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► yes my god I never would have guessed [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► Justin it was on my list it was on and [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► it was the only address President this [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► can say I worked to get one episode from [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► every iteration of trick and that was [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► the one enterprise well it's a great [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► episode it's a two-part episode and it's [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► great to part up so it's a sequel to two [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► original series episodes at once plus [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► plus you have a Gorn ma huh you got a [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► nice got a corn [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► uh corn Tholians oh the Tholians in this [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► episode is so wonderful like everything [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► from the the little situation with with [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► flocks interrogating to the space [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► battles and everything like that and [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► their little station and everything and [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► their little plot to tear the ship apart [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► and learn all its secrets too and they [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► do a carefully constructed classic [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► series Federation starship bridge that [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► they are on from user the second episode [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► beautiful yeah not not just the bridge [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► though like that the corridors yeah like [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► all of it the engine room oh so good and [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► and you've got like treachery and [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► everyone everyone in this episode like [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► every single character from top to [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► bottom whether it's human-alien whatever [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► they are all over the top bad they're [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► just over the top evil and two of the [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► brilliant touches in this first of all [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► yeah there's no connection to our [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► universe it is just entirely set over [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► there yeah although I mean well the [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► stuff the stuff comes over from our our [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► universe but that's it yes but we never [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► see our universe right and as a result [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► they redid the opening credits as you [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► know with this evil marshal military [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► theme with all these dark dark clips and [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► it's the only episode of enterprise that [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► has a good theme song and the other the [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► other thing I love about it is it's it's [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► one of the only times where Scott Bakula [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► seems like is actually having fun yep [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► and is having a ball that is my knock [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► against enterprises you know why do you [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► hire this man who is a very personable [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► actor then you make him scowl and be [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► serious all the time ah unless he's [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► watching water polo he loves his water [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► oh yeah that's true with his dogs got [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► water call and his dog but not in the [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► merrier hey does water polo even exist [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► in the mirror universe it's played in [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► lava and [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► this is a very short it's just a form of [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► execution yeah and they're only allowed [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► to touch the ball with their beer i [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► sentence you to lava polo no that's what [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► happens yeah so enemy r darkly and then [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► and then Archer dies at the end which is [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► wonderful to bitch and just Oh is so [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► good so that's that's my pick for this [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► round that's a good one let me take a [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► break from this week's ridiculous [TS]

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00:30:38 ◼   ► incomparable aleem what's your choice [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► I'm going with another next generation [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► episode just because I am worried that [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► someone else might take it so I am [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► saying tapestry from the next generation [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► yeah season six and so the the story [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► here is Picard a shot while on a [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► diplomatic mission and it's a qso Dan [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► Dino q episodes have a reputation but I [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► actually kind of love them so so this is [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► good this might look this is the good [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► ones just the good ones is the good way [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► I know I'd I should have filled my list [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► with Q episodes because I know that I [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► would have been safe but so cute he's [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► been shot and Q comes in he's like hey [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► you can relive this moment of your past [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► this moment that you regret that Picard [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► has talked about regretting and so [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► Picard goes back in time gets to relive [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► this The Situation's bar fight that he [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► was in um when he was just out of the [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► Academy and and he finds out that that [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► was such a major tipping point in his [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► life that it gave him drive and ambition [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► to live and live well and be successful [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► that when he comes back to the analog [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► version of him in the present day he's [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► just like this science officer that [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► nobody knows and who has accomplished [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► nothing and i just i love i love this [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► episode so much it's um I'm a sucker for [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► for those like what if episodes I have [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► those moments of my life and like well [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► what if I had done this thing [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► differently and I think we all have [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► those and it's kind of a wish [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► fulfillment thing for me to where I'm [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► like well maybe Q will come and let me [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► realize how much you'll see how it all [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► turned out it's possible well and the [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► beauty of the plotting of it I mean it's [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► basically a quantum leap episode is what [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► it is yeah it is and the but the beauty [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► of it is the symmetry of you know he's [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► shot but it's not that he's been shot [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► the blast has fused his artificial heart [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► and is causing it to fail and the only [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► reason he has an artificial heart is [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► because of that bar fight which is a [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► story he tells Wesley in a terrible [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► season 2 episode and they did a [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► wonderful job of going back to this [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► really interesting anecdote in a dumb [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► episode and and giving it weight and [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► giving it a purpose Scott this was our [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► the first random Trek episode you and I [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► did it it was I was going to say this is [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► uh this round I was going to pick [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► tapestry night well for many reasons I [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► really like [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► episode i enjoyed q this was the first [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► episode of random track that I talked [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► about with mr. Jason Snell and also I [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► think it may have one of the my favorite [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► lines in Star Trek ever which is human [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► play dom-jot it means nothing to anyone [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► but I love saying it I just like San [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► Picard run around in blue yeah it's so [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► it's so creepy it's just creepy kids [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► it's weird and he's only got like a pip [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► and a half on the car subsonic what is [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► happening it's now Scott's turned to go [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► because Robo Dan and Robo Joe must wait [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► for me and for Scott what do you think [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► Scott what do you have Robo I am going [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► to do something I in real time I'm [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► changing up my my order here because I [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► feel like no one's picked a Voyager [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► episode yes yesterday I should I want to [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► go there they'll be available later I [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► suspect I have what that everyone i have [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► i have one that i love this is my [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► favorite episode of voyager this is what [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► I had hoped voyager would be and it was [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► not year of Hell which is another [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► episode that at the end never actually [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► happened which is kind of annoying but [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► it is the premise here is that Voyager [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► is just going through this year hell [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► everything's about functioning but also [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► that is happening because there is this [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► man who has a Timeship and he just keeps [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► resetting time over and over again [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► because he wants to save his family he's [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► obsessed with it and he's just screwing [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► up the timeline for everybody is a [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► fantastic episode I love it and it's got [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► red from that 70 show so how could you [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► not enjoy that yeah basically what we've [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► learned is we really like episodes that [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► often don't feature the regular cast and [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► often take place in an alternate version [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► yeah it's it's well these are the [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► special episodes right they're not just [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► a run and run of the mill story of the [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► week it's true that was going to be my [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► next episode a lot of I never fear [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► I know reciprocity and i just want to [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► mention part of the reason i love it and [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► part of the reason i think that is a [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► showcase I like Voyager I don't love it [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► universally I don't love any Star Trek [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► universally but one of the things I love [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► about it is that it shows how amazing [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► Janeway is and how tenacious she is in [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► determined and smart and and and i love [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► that and that's why i want another [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► female starship captain featured in a [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► series all right i'm gonna go and i'm [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► going to shock scott again don't do it [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► Jason I've been or is this mirror mirror [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► universe jason are you yes i'm stroking [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► my goatee narrows god rah i'm picking [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► again again I put two next generation [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► episodes at the top of my list thinking [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► that I would be lucky to get one and [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► I've gotten them both because with my [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► second pick I'm grabbing the definitive [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► star trek the next generation episode [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► the best of both worlds the Borg attack [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► at Wolf 359 and decimate the fleet the [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► card is taken and turned into a Borg [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► then there's a summer where we all [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► wonder what's going to happen and we [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► come back and the deflector dish helps [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► them sort of defeat them and in the end [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► Picard is rescued and everything is okay [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► kind of but it's the I think this is the [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► episode that had next generation like [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► helped it break through to a broader [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► audience people were talking about the [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► cliffhanger and of course it went on to [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► define a lot of what what little [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► continuity we got in the next generation [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► a lot of it was the Borg storyline [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► Picard's storyline have being affected [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► by being assimilated by the Borg and of [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► course it led to a very nice next [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► generation film first contact so I feel [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► like how could you not I it's right [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► there so I have to take it best of both [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► worlds I mean it has it has great [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► moments it is i would say a brilliant [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► half an episode and then they resolve it [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► and then they resolve it it's true yeah [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► half witch witch and that's totally [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► because you know Michael pill we wrote [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► the first half and he was gonna leave [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► yeah I didn't know a good luck everybody [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► and then he had [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► a guy to figure out how to actually [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► resolve it later and it shows yeah I [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► mean it's you know but but the first [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► half is brilliant I if I was it if it [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► was on my list I was only going to pick [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► the first half that first half though [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► and the ending of you know Picard Isla [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► cutis ed they do that tight shot of [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► Riker as mr. Worf fire you're like no [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► rancor you can't fire is because in fact [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► I I decided this before we started that [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► you can't not take both parts of a [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► two-parter and I was going to call it [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► the best of both worlds rule um but you [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► know there's stuff in this i think the [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► second episode is good it just cannot [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► keep up with the first episode which is [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► great it is maybe the definitive next [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► generation episode let's move on to the [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► robo pics Joe Robo steel Oh is he has to [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► skip over some of his pics that were [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► sniped to go tools available to a [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► Voyager episode again what what this is [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► again off format a bit tinker tenor dr. [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► spy one of my favorite titles on Voyager [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► so you like the title I like this title [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► it's a fine episode it's a fine episode [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► I enjoy it and you know it's robert [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► picardo getting to have a blast so you [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► know I'm okay with that yeah yeah he [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► just delightful mm-hmm everybody loves [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► Robert Picardo he's great and the [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► opening is great i look forward to robo [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► Joe telling us more about this emphasis [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► please Joe tell us it seemed like a [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► lackluster response remember to another [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► podcast perhaps robo Joe explain why [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► tank retainer dr. spy is one of my [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► favorite wager episodes is very light [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► comedy it does have character [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► development for the doctor I quite enjoy [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► seeing his fantasies unfold on screen as [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► outlandish and flamboyant as they are I [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► feel like it is it is quite novel it [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► doesn't take itself too seriously the [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► major tension in the episode is [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► something that you know will be easily [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► averted but it's just just watching how [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► he hopes others [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► see him and now he wants to project [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► himself through his fantasies I feel [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► like that is one of the reasons why it's [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► one of the better voyager episodes and I [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► think that Voyager is definitely [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► stronger when it's doing comedy than [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► when it's trying to be serious so that [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► that's why I wanted to go ahead and snag [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► that one especially since I know [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► nobody's picking voyager episodes on [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► this podcast robo Dan's turn to pick and [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► robo Dan it has been sniped as well by [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► by several people here so you should be [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► happy but he's going to go for a deep [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► space 9 episode because it's dan but [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► with a little original series flavor [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► celebrating the trouble with tribbles [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► with trials and tribulations it's on my [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► list you and to and I was thinking about [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► picking it the neck show me knows my [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► next round it's such a good episode oh [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► that is an episode if you someone [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► doesn't know anything about deep space 9 [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► but they know Star Trek so they know [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► Kirk and Spock and tribbles you show [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► them that episode and they love it [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► unsurprisingly my second pick also a [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► time-travel episode but this one this is [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► just a fun episode from start to finish [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► it's from deep space nine which is my my [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► favorite of all the Star Trek series and [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► its trials and tribble-ations it's a [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► fantastically just an opportunity to get [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► the crew of deep space nine in the [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► original series and interact with Kirk [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► and some of the original series [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► characters and it's done by basically [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► interpolating it along into the classic [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► trouble with tribbles episode and so [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► Cisco and the crew are basically [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► sneaking around trying to find a way to [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► prevent this guy from this this Klingon [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► operative disguised as human from [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► killing Kirk and and sabotaging all [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► these the events of this episode it's [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► really well done even watching it now in [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► the non restored version it looks great [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► like the way that they just sort of [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► interleave everybody into it and some of [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► that is obviously the huge production [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► values right like you know everybody [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► gets to dress up and wear the classic [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► series uniforms and use all the [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► technology and make fun of how primitive [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► some of the technology is and it's shot [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► against all these sets that are you know [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► clearly painstakingly rebuilt and it [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► just it looks great it's fun you know [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► O'Brien gets dressed down by Kirk at one [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► point for starting a fight Cisco gets a [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► meet Kirk at the end of the episode Dax [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► gets to talk about how attractive Spock [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► is and Julian worries about perhaps [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► falling in love with his [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► great-grandmother it's it's just it's a [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► delightful romp we get Worf's non [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► explanation about why Klingons in the [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► original series look so different we get [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► odo petting a Tribble there's just [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► there's just so much to love about this [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► episode from start to finish including [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► even the framing story which has the [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► establishes I think this temporal [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► investigations department and Starfleet [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► that's come to question Cisco about [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► exactly what he did I love their [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► exasperation with Kirk and how annoying [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► he was from a time travel perspective I [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► like that they don't like any of Cisco's [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► time travel jokes intended or otherwise [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► this is great showcase for every books [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► every time he gets to do that [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► million-dollar smile I really just like [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► it's it's a delight and so everything [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► about this this episode is just fun from [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► start to finish and I think that's why I [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► like it so much even as someone who is [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► not a huge fan of the original series [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► where I had seen much of the original [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► series before this point there is a [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► delight in marrying these two very [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► different examples of this show and and [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► you know ds9 is a very different version [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► of the show than the original series but [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► the fact that it all takes place in the [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► same universe is kind of delightful it's [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► amazing the jokes and knowing trouble [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► with tribbles by heart some of the jokes [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► in there are very clearly done by other [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► fans who no trouble with tribbles by [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► heart because like the scene where they [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► are slowly scanning the tribbles and [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► tossing them over their shoulders [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► intercut with the triples falling out [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► and hitting curve is yes I'm that funny [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► it's funny in the original it is extra [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► funny when it's Dax and Cisco chucking [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► them over their shoulder and just wet [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► they just [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► are continually bombarded William [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► Shatner down below it's great yeah i [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► mean this this is an example again of [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► why i say deep space nine is the best of [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► the series and especially having read [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► the 50-year mission books that's you [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► know kind of the oral history of the [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► show Oh of all the series that was a [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► very tight writing staff that stuck [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► together and they were on fire I mean [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► they were just a finely tuned machine [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► compared to the other Trek series and [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► they were doing these kind of episodes [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► and getting those kind of details in and [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► getting you know the the density of [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► reference and and the way it's woven [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► together there are other Trek things [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► that have tried to weave together stuff [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► it's no this this one did it right well [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► and you can tell like the joy that cisco [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► has in being their leaders like a little [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► kid and that's a lot of fun to watch too [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah all right third round time [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► David what do you have all right I'm [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► torn but we've had enough Deep Space [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► nine Episode so i think i'm going to go [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► back to the original series again for a [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► glimpse at something we had always been [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► curious about through the first season [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► and we wanted to know more about we [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► still want to know more about we don't [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► with even with all these shows and [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► movies we still don't know enough amok [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► time oh it's the first time we see the [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► Vulcan homeworld it's the first time we [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► get a real glimpse into a Vulcan society [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► and how it works and and Vulcan ritual [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► and religion and you know again son of a [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► theologian yes it's very fascinating and [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► and yet it is it is all made up Hui [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► because again it's 60s TV sci-fi but [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► it's a fine strain of hooey and you know [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► again a really nicely constructed a [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► story that lets Kirk and Spock fight one [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► another which you know can often be [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► contrived when you have your heroes [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► fighting hello DC comics and but this is [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► a very smart way of doing it and it's [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► it's all strategy right it's [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► it's two Pring picking Kirk to be her [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► champion yeah and and throwing a wrench [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► into the plans she had already made [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► which is kind of kind of clever and then [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► McCoy stepping up and saving the day [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► which leads to one of Spock's greatest [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► moments at the very end when you know [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► for it well two of them actually we're [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► first he is you know a live long and [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► prosper Spock I shall do neither for I [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► have killed my captain right and that he [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► beams back up to the enterprise and who [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► should walk out of sickbay gions Moran [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► Jim and McCoy is like I think we were [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► just about to see something to bring [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► down the house right that is such a [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► delightful episode on every level even [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► you know oh i just i love i love that [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► episode cree it's a great episode and [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► and almost of our Vulcan lore really [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► kind of comes out of that from out of DC [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► Fontana and especially out of that [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► episode alright Justin what do you have [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► so next up is a next generation episode [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► chain of command a wonderful two-parter [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► in which we encounter a new captain of [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► the enterprise briefly Jellico and he [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► ruffled some feathers but the the reason [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► i picked this is of course the [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► incredible performance by patrick [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► stewart when he's being tortured by the [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► Kardashians it's it's probably the most [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► powerful performance he provides [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► throughout the entire series even more [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► powerful in my opinion than his [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► performance during the inner light [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► although it's close but you know that [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► the the work they put into this episode [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► to research torture to watch videos and [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► source material and like the way [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► everyone just poured themselves into [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► making this an absolutely incredible [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► story it shows and it's it's a [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► wonderfully put together piece of work [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► so chain of command if we didn't have [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► the best of both worlds rule I would [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► have picked the second half of it [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► because again i can't i can't go for it [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► if half of it doesn't quite you know the [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► first half is okay it's a typical [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► but then you get to the reason they made [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► it which is yeah yeah utterly brilliant [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► and and certainly his best performance I [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► agree and it's it's very much in the [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► tradition of again 60s TV doing the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► interrogation episodes but this one is [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► grounded in reality and it's it is hard [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► to watch at points yeah I do agree that [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► you know if you look at them as [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► individual episodes it's easy to say the [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► part 2 as obviously the standout but I [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► feel like they contrast each other in a [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► very necessary way in the beginning in [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► the first part you've got you know that [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► the teams together you know a smaller [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► subset of the team but the teams working [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► together and they're they're going to go [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► infiltrate this place they're going to [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► go accomplish a mission and you know it [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► just shows how everything's working as [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► intended and you know Starfleet's great [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► and we're equipped and we're going to do [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► this and then it all crumbles and I feel [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► like that setup going into the the slow [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► degradation of his entire life [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► throughout the the torture sessions is [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► is necessarily set up by everything that [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► happens in part one so fair enough yeah [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► for me it's it's you can't look at them [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► separately it's just one story that [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► happens to be told in two episodes [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► because the format dictates it and he [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► tells Troy to put on uniform on yeah [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► yeah yeah finally cuz it your face yes [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► yes yes Ronnie Cox doing a good job as [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► Captain jerkface yeah is it every cat [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► from andrew lloyd webber's cats IV [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► income yeah what's wrong with ye got rid [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► of the fish from the ready room he ate [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► it no see British that is now headcanon [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► alene what do you have I am going with a [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► Voyager episode um blink of an eye which [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► is an episode in which Voyager gets [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► stuck in orbit around a planet and this [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► planet has a different like time [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► dilation [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► than the rest of the galaxy so in the [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► amount of time that it takes Voyager to [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► kind of get break out of orbit it's been [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► centuries on this planet and and so it [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► goes through it that Voyager becomes [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► part of the mythology of this planet as [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► a permit of society they see this new [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► star in the sky they start to worship it [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► and it becomes the driving factor in [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► them reaching technological innovations [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► until they can finally get to a point [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► where they can reach Voyager and board [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► Voyager and so we get like this [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► bird's-eye view of a civilization rising [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► and it's just it's neat it's just a neat [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► story i almost put that one on my list [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► Scott what you have what do I have this [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► is another Q episode because I like you [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► unlike some people some people do but [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► I'd like I also like fish out of water [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► episodes and so deja Q where Q loses all [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► his powers to be taught a lesson by the [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► continuum is what I am picking I enjoy [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► it hehe his hand gets pierced with a [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► fork by Guinan he tells Geordi that's [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► the in order to save the planet and help [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► the moon's orbital decay you just [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► changed the gravitational constant of [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the universe lots of great things he [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► doesn't understand why he's hungry he he [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► doesn't he doesn't do well as a human [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► he's so whiny I love it he is very whiny [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► yeah lots of great moments and I just [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► enjoy how much q annoys Picard generally [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► and so I like their their back and forth [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► in this episode as well my favorite part [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► of that episode is 1q comes to sickbay [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► to talk to data and it's when it's after [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► data saved his life and they're [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► repairing him and data can't talk right [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► yet because they haven't repaired that [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► part of him and you know Q tells him [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► that you know he's a much better human [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► than he'll ever be and and I love the [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► way they set that scene up with data not [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► being able to respond because I can't [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► imagine a response that would have gone [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► better in that scene than silence [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► yeah and it ends has great ending where [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► with data and cute data queue gives data [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► a gift unmake stay too laughs oh I love [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► that Jason do you love deja Q I think [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► that it is using Hugh and his best which [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► is laying him low and having him not be [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► this impossibly powerful figure so I do [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► think it's actually a very good use of Q [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► naught not play tapestry level where you [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► might not even be there is the best q [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► episode but I think this is the best [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► episode with well I don't know it's it's [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► a good q episode it's a very good q [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► episode I agree all right um I am going [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► next and I'm going back to the original [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► series this will be my first original [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► series pick and I had to say I went I [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► went for the classic I went for my [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► original series favorite episode and I [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► strange that it's the episode that pays [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► an homage went before it but the trouble [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► with tribbles is my choice I love this [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► episode it is such a funny script by [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► David Gerald it's performed with a light [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► touch by the actors I I got to see it [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► performed live on stage at trek in the [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► park in Portland a couple of summers ago [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► and it killed it's so funny that on it's [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► a it's just it's a it showed like a like [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► a band playing a song and you realize a [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► cover of a song and you realize that [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► that song is a really good song because [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► it can be interpreted in different ways [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► you know like that's a really good song [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► I that same feeling about trouble with [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► tribbles like that's it that's a really [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► good script like because on stage in a [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► park on a summer afternoon it killed it [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► was hilarious it was just it's a funny [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► episode I love it there's fur balls [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► there's Klingons there's there's there's [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► poison grain Captain Kirk's just [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► seething contempt for the bureaucracy is [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► amazing hora is charmed by these triples [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► and unwittingly leash unleashes [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► destruction on the enterprise which then [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► is visited on the Klingons at the end [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► there's the con man Cyrano Jones I you [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► know what's not to like i love i love [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► this episode even though many triples [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► die in it that's okay there there are [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► more troubles that it has so many moving [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► parts to it [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► and they shouldn't all work together but [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► they do right and I mean it's an [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► espionage story it's an espionage story [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► it's a con game it's a cute animal story [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► and and it's a comedy it's it's satire [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► it's a you know all of these things uh [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► and how does it work what the hell yeah [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► that should or shouldn't work written by [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► a teenager presumably if I like the help [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► of like gene kun or something but yeah [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► or DC find him and even though they had [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► light moments in other episodes even [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► though they had other comedy episodes [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► there is a clunkiness to the way they [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► play in the Harry Mudd episodes right [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► there's there's a lot of moments that [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► work and there are a lot of moments that [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► just fall flat on their face and this is [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► just high comedy done perfectly right oh [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► yeah and and I haven't memorized too [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► mm-hmm ok so the troll with tribbles is [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► off the board I have collected my top [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► three picks so me draft over time for [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► robo pics from Joe and dan Joe pics from [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► deep space nine the episode rocks and [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► Shoals rocks and Shoals is one of the [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► Deep Space nine episodes in side of the [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► story arc where the station has been [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► taken over by the Dominion we split our [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► time between the planet's surface where [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► Cisco and crew have crashed and the [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► station being run by the Dominion and [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► the remnants of the Bajoran people still [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► there and it's a very interesting [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► episode not just for the a plot about [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► what's happening on the the desert [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► planet but for what's happening on the [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► station itself because Kira is battling [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► with what to do surrounding keeping the [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► station up and running now she is [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► accused by a Bajoran Vedic as [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► collaborating essentially with them that [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► they need to resist and Kira is very [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► prepared to stop this this Vedic and [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► stop her from lashing out because she [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► worries about what it will mean for the [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► people on the station like oh well if we [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► don't keep order then you know things [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► will be worse for us that's not [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► something vetted Yasim [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► is with and in fact in this B plot vetta [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► Qasim surprises Kyra who is there to [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► stop vetta chasm from from demonstrating [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► when she doesn't demonstrate in a [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► traditional manner that that Kira had [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► expected rather the Vedic hops off of [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► one of the the upper levels of the [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► promenade and hangs herself it's very [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► dramatic scene shocking really and it [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► shocks Kira into realizing she needs to [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► do something about this occupation of [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► the station that that she is complicit [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► in things as long as she just lets [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► things operate in such a way that [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► nothing bad happens so that that is that [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► is a really tough b-side for for the [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► characters now on the planet surface you [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► have to deal with the situation [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► surrounding the Gemma dar who have also [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► crashed on the planet and they're Vorta [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► the Vorta splayed is named Kevin and he [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► has been wounded he requires medical [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► attention and the gym had are not very [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► good at it they they managed to get him [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► medical attention from one of the [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► captured people that they they get on [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► the planet's surface and this is when [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► the Vorta reveals his plan to send the [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► gem head are up against cisco and the [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► Federation but they will go in a very [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► specific path through a valley where [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► it'll be easy to pick off the gem Adar [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► because they can no longer shroud [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► because they're low in ketracel-white [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► the Vorta is concerned that the [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► Jem'Hadar will eventually run out of [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► white and go crazy so he wants to kill [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► all of them and he knows that cisco will [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► have to do it whether cisco wants to [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► cold-blooded it would commit [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► cold-blooded murder on these these [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► troopers or not because the troopers [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► will attack no matter what and follow [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► the Bortas commands so this is this is a [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► very complicated issue for for cisco [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► because he has to protect his people but [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► he knows that this is [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► messed up so I greatly enjoyed this [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► episode as one of the more complicated [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► and nuanced episodes that involve the [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► moral issues surrounding both cisco and [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► major Kira's characters so I feel like [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► it's one of the these stronger episodes [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► in this particular Dominion ark although [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► I would have picked the whole thing if I [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► could have OH [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► could have OH [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► okay I got this so rocks and Shoals is [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► the one where O'Brien tears his pants [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► huh so so they're there in the [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► demi-monde show right they've stolen [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► this Dominion ship a while ago rights [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► artfully put it back together and then [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► they go on this behind your undercover [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► mission behind the lines to destroy this [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► facility and they do that in the [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► previous episode right in this episode [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► opens earth know that the previous [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► episode ends with them being chased by [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► the Dominion this episode opens with [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► them getting their butt kicked by the [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► Dominion and they crash-land into the [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► ocean of this planet and there's a scene [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► right at the beginning where it's a [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► beautiful scene where you've got the [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► Dominion ship in the background sinking [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► slowly into the ocean yep as they're as [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► they're coming on to shore with this [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► like makeshift raft right and they [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► haphazardly like drag the raft and the [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► the sub what supplies they could have [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► gathered on to the beach and like you [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► know Jadzia's been severely injured [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► she's on the raft and they're pulling [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► her up and people are stumbling out of [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► the water it's it's a hell of a swim [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► from from that ship you can tell and and [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► they all just kind of collapse in a heap [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► on the beach and then after a moment [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► O'Brien looks down he's like ah damn it [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► and they're like what I tore my pants [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► and they're like he Cisco's like who are [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► you pants he's like yeah it's or my [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► pants I guess I'm in real trouble now [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► and they all just laughs it's it's so [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► yeah they just burst out laughing [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► because of the absurdity of the [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► situation and it's like I love that line [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► because it's it shows this camaraderie [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► between not just like the the main cast [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► that is present of the of deep space [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► nine but also like these other ancillary [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► characters that have joined them on this [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► mission not all of which will survive [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► the episode but it just sets things up [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► so beautifully and it's just one of [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► those little moments that I cherish [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► which is why I open the episode was it [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► with it but nobody remembers it but me [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► that's cool now it Justin surprised me [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► by focusing on the pants [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► but I feel like there were some other [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► stronger things so hopefully everyone [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► will agree with me and watch it not just [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► because of the pants thing thank you the [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► other that's a great episode like the [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► rest it goes on with this thing with [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► Gemma or and whatever but it's all about [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► the half pans good I'm sure was thinking [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► to Dan more'n pics also from deep space [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► nine these guys what is going on for the [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► uniform this is kind of the it's like [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► way at the end but it's the penultimate [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► chapter in this long arc running in ds9 [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► and it has to do with a kind of minor [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► character but a recurring character [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► which is one of ds9's great strengths [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► and that it brings back these characters [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► over over again and develops these arcs [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► and evolves them over time and that's um [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► lieutenant lieutenant commander former [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► lieutenant commander Michael Eddington [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► who is in an earlier episode revealed to [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► be essentially a Maquis spy mole [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► whatever you want to call them and [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► essentially betrays the rest of the ds9 [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► crew and goes off to join the Maquis and [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► so what we get here is the cisco is sort [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► of you know Moby Dick style Moby Dick [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► style halves is like tracking down [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► Eddington and trying to capture him and [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► he's become obsessed with this and so we [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► get this interesting parable and [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► interesting development in Cisco's [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► character that shows that he's willing [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► to cross certain lines and I think [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► what's great about this is in is that [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► it's a microcosm of ds9 and what I love [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► about the show and that it's not it's [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► willing to paint its protagonists in a [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► more questionable light not things are [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► not black and white I feel like a lot of [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► next generation and even the original [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► series to a certain extent you know [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► portrays our character says the good [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► guys and this is not the case in ds9 and [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► this is a this happens before my [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► favorite episode which I know someone [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► else picked in the pale moonlight but in [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► this case it shows sort of the [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► permeability and flexibility of Cisco's [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► character and willing to give up these [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► Starfleet ideals in order to fulfill [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► essentially this sort of revenge plot [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► there's a lot of great stuff here his [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► interactions with [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► eddington Kenneth Marshall are really [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► just they're loaded right now Avery [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► books gets to bring this sort of [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► gravitas in fury which is what he does [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► so well in this show and they're their [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► arguments back and forth and and [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► Eddington basically draws a parallel [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► with Leigh miserable and calls Cisco's [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► affair for tracking him down and feels [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► like what he's done is not worth Cisco's [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► obsession with him and and Cisco's [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► willing to cross the line and [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► essentially destroy if not you know not [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► like outright kill a bunch of people [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► Maki settlers on a planet but [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► essentially like make their home in [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► hospital and force them to flee which is [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► pretty brutal and you know Eddington [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► essentially gets to play the hero here [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► in the eamon in a conversation with [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► cisco and Dax they talk about how [TS]

01:05:12 ◼   ► edingtons the hero of his own story and [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► it's not a thing of perspective I feel [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► like we get that much in in the Star [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► Trek series and so you know essentially [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► Eddington gets to make the heroic [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► sacrifice and Cisco uses that against [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► him and so you know watching this [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► episode in a vacuum I mean I've seen all [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► the previous episodes but re watching it [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► in a vacuum Cisco does not come off [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► looking very good here and Eddington [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► does seem more heroic in some fashion [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► and so it's it's you know without having [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► that previous you know run up in in [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► Eddington betraying him it's definitely [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► makes Cisco less sympathetic and so yeah [TS]

01:05:51 ◼   ► I love this DFC 69 is great at painting [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► the gray shades of Starfleet and in [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► these characters and I think that is a [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► big contrast to the previous episodes I [TS]

01:06:02 ◼   ► picked which is sort of fun and [TS]

01:06:04 ◼   ► delightful as this one is a lot grittier [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► and a lot more morally questionable it's [TS]

01:06:11 ◼   ► got some weird choices the hollow [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► communicators which are rarely seen [TS]

01:06:14 ◼   ► again they're nice because like then you [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► don't have people arguing out of you [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► screen a lot which is super boring but [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► it's also kind of a weird decision I [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► also really like the sort of submarine [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► movie Oh moshes when the Defiant is [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► damaged and they have to have nog [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► relaying all the orders and calling [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► things out and it makes things seem a [TS]

01:06:30 ◼   ► lot more tense because the Defiant is [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► not running a full capability and thus [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► it makes it you know the the ensuing [TS]

01:06:36 ◼   ► battles it has with the Maquis feel like [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► they have higher [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► stakes yeah so this is a really really [TS]

01:06:41 ◼   ► great episode it's part of that long [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► serialized tradition of ds9 which makes [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► it sometimes hard to sort of jump in and [TS]

01:06:48 ◼   ► out but I think it really does a nice [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► job of illuminating Cisco's character [TS]

01:06:53 ◼   ► especially no it's okay there's no [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► there's no pants gift or no pants [TS]

01:06:59 ◼   ► tearing it thank you thank you thank you [TS]

01:07:01 ◼   ► alright let's go back to the top of the [TS]

01:07:03 ◼   ► order David what's your next choice in [TS]

01:07:06 ◼   ► the fourth round do I go for another [TS]

01:07:08 ◼   ► Deep Space nine Episode I think I might [TS]

01:07:10 ◼   ► go for another Deep Space nine Episode [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► steady and another special alternate [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► existence of course because but this one [TS]

01:07:19 ◼   ► kind of makes sense knowing my tastes [TS]

01:07:22 ◼   ► it's far beyond the stars where Ben [TS]

01:07:27 ◼   ► Sisko wakes up and he's in 1950s New [TS]

01:07:30 ◼   ► York City and he's a science fiction [TS]

01:07:31 ◼   ► writer named benji who has this [TS]

01:07:34 ◼   ► wonderful story that he wants to sell [TS]

01:07:37 ◼   ► about this space station and the crew [TS]

01:07:39 ◼   ► that works on her and we we get to see [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► all of the regulars out of makeup which [TS]

01:07:46 ◼   ► is always a treat and playing very 50 [TS]

01:07:51 ◼   ► stereotype characters and so it's it's [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► this you know the the struggle between [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► the reality of what it would be like to [TS]

01:08:01 ◼   ► be an african american science fiction [TS]

01:08:03 ◼   ► writer in the 50s which not an easy row [TS]

01:08:06 ◼   ► to hoe and and again another wonderful [TS]

01:08:10 ◼   ► alternate variation it's like getting to [TS]