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00:00:00   you're not supposed to argue with me our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   own myself this is hypercritical the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1">TS</a>]

00:00:07   weekly talk show ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/7">TS</a>]

00:00:08   what is wrong in the world of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10   related technologies and businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/10">TS</a>]

00:00:11   nothing is so perfect that can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   complained about by my friend and yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   John siracusa I'm Dan Benjamin today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   Friday December 28th 2012 this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21   episode number 100 this is our final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/21">TS</a>]

00:00:25   episode this is the very last episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   hypercritical we would like to thank our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/28">TS</a>]

00:00:32   sponsors MailChimp infinite refrigerator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   and shutterstock for making this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   possible bandwidth for December has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   sponsored by igloo your digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   workplace you can give updates have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   discussions and share files with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   team all in one place sign em get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   started at igloo software com / 5 by 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   well here we are last lab very last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   episode hundred of hundred episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   after this one will be in the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57   that's true not a hundred episodes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   me but 100 episodes in the feed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   there only only one without you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   22 well you didn't let us put the one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   the first one in but there was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   in the feed with that number there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   just your public service and 0 elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   correct correct alright episode 100 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:22   final episode I've got a couple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   planned for this episode but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/85">TS</a>]

00:01:30   gonna take too much time I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   people who are hoping for an eight hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/92">TS</a>]

00:01:33   final episode will be disappointed which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/93">TS</a>]

00:01:37   is appropriate i think to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   disappointed to disappoint dear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   audience I'm the final episode yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   think they're already disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   enough that you're not doing the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   anymore there you go so that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   saying if it's been a theme you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   continue the wave yeah so we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   have a little bit of follow-up then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   going to have my main topic for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   show which is not very long and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   we're going to end up with you asking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   your questions okay for as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04   want to do that so like if I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   ask an hour two hours were the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   you're up with you're up for that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   you'll be exhausted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   you can't it people were asking that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   you were going to filibuster me I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   know quite how that would work but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   I would recommend against that but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   know I said last week yeah you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   have your questions repaired you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/146">TS</a>]

00:02:27   and I said to come up with one that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   think would be a reasonable way to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:30   the show and then I will flub it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   giving a lame answer and then that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33   be it so do you thinks I'm like a plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/153">TS</a>]

00:02:37   that sounds like a good plan i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   the last time that i was permitted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   ascii questions was for an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   the pipeline where i interviewed you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   a way that that show is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   that episode was a little bit like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50   predecessor to this whole this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   show that plus the gabe newell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   conversation episode you were on I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   like come on do a show there you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01   then that was this so there you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   question is my questions by the way just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   a little teaser mm-hmm aren't gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   nothing to do with technology nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:11   do with your mac pro or the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   RAM in it or tonight is or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   that that you're all personal there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/197">TS</a>]

00:03:21   go what makes siracusa tick all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/201">TS</a>]

00:03:26   let us start for the first time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   last time with follow up last episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/208">TS</a>]

00:03:33   discussed the wii u that you were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   kind to send me that we've been playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   that my son has been playing non-stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   since they came here and I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/220">TS</a>]

00:03:45   once I got it and transferred my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/225">TS</a>]

00:03:46   over to it I realized after transferring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   my stuff that I wouldn't be able to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   mario 64 with the gamecube controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   anymore because now mario 64 is over on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   the wii u and the wii u doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   a gamecube controller a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   sent me the links to people modding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   controllers which is apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   burgeoning field i know they sell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   adapters and most lots of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   like that but some people sort of have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   do-it-yourself type mindset well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   will take a dremel tool to a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   controllers and try to make sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   frankan controller and one popular theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   is taking various controllers and wiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   them up to the bottom of a wii remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   the links i put in the show note show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   notes about this are about someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   modding be a wee classic controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/269">TS</a>]

00:04:33   remember that thing it's not the Wii U [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   pro yeah yeah similar yeah two analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/275">TS</a>]

00:04:39   sticks d-pad buttons and like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   kind of horn type handles on it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   what this guy did is open that thing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   chopped out the the printed circuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   board part of it mm-hm and then take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   gamecube controller and pull out its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   guts and then take the chopped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/295">TS</a>]

00:04:56   classic controller circuit board put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   inside the gamecube controller and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   a wire all of the controls on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   gamecube controller to the printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   circuit board actually solder it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   there to the printed circuit board from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/306">TS</a>]

00:05:07   the classic controller so it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   a classic controller as far as the wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   is concerned but all the controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   instead of being hooked up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   thumbsticks on the classic controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   the hooked up to the thumbsticks on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   the gamecube controller and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   buttons and so on and so forth it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   amazing that actually works but i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   you know it's all nintendo all on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   family and all the buttons and switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   and analog sticks and similar signals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   and so it ends up working of course this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   is not a it is a do-it-yourself job if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   you are very comfortable with soldering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35   and it's not super precise like micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   soldering but it's precise enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   lots of contacts have to be soldered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   very close to each other and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   you know be careful iming it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   something that I would want to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   myself but apparently people do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   then they sell their handiwork so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   is a reddit thread where someone posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   pictures and then also a link to a forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   thread where the person shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   step-by-step things I tried to find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   presses name they can only come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   uh or is it gum oh yeah good old gum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/359">TS</a>]

00:06:03   oped Gummo and then i read it he's gum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   owned no and there's i also put a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   into one of the various adapters which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   is the re the wii retro pad adapter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   that this is another wee thing not a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   you think but it lets you connect again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   to the bottom where we mode and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20   have another plug that into which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   plug an adapter cable where you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   all sorts of control nes SNES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   playstation playstation 2 gamecube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   nintendo 64 Neo Geo CD and Sega Saturn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   all those controllers you can use making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   them look like classic controllers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   the way I'm assuming all the same things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/399">TS</a>]

00:06:39   already work with the wii u or similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   hacks will come out and work with wii u [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   so there's hope for anybody who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   play any sort of game with their console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   using a classic controller any things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:53   are pretty cheap tillich adapters like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   25 bucks and the extension cables like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   10 bucks for all of them so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   market by hobbyists for obvious and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   that some of these adapter things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   provide like the plans for you to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   your own so if you don't want to buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   from this guy and you just want to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   yourself you can buy all the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08   yourself and assemble them and solder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   them together and everything pretty neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   alright next bit of follow-up is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/432">TS</a>]

00:07:18   Jesse lane he was the first person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   successfully save me from myself when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   comes to mac address filtering on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   wireless network I shall talked about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   difficulties and setting up new devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   with because I have mac address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   filtering on my home network and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   of devices don't show you the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   address at the point where i would need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   it they just want you to get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   network and before you're allowed to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   what the mac addresses which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   frustrating so a lot of people responded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/462">TS</a>]

00:07:46   and tweets an email saying you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   do mac address filtering it's dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   that's not it's not helpful because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   show i explained you know you said water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   here yeah here's why I do it and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/476">TS</a>]

00:07:59   said if anyone can tell me why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   reasons that I do it don't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   sense by all means do so but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   telling me it's dumb doesn't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   that you know you're you know so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   review i was saying i did the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   address filtering not because i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   it was impossible like the tiger was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   security barrier because anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   pretend to have any mac address they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   want that's simple right my idea was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   that so fine someone looks at my network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   and sees the mac addresses of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   devices that are on it says okay i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25   going to spoof that mac address my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   assumption was that that person would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   have a bad experience using my network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30   because if he's trying to use a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31   address that is the same as another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   device on the network the two would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   conflict with each other and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   make that person said and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   things won't work right so and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   who didn't address that it says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   shouldn't do mac address filtering it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   it's pointless you shouldn't do it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   know they never gave me a reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   never acknowledge that they heard what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   was saying he said you know people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   spoof a maggot as well yeah of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   said that on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   sometimes it just doesn't fit in 140 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56   characters if it's a tweet or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   but Jesse Lane was the first person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   fried an actual explanation to show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   listen to the show he said I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   security professional that has done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   fair bit of work and wireless he says he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   doesn't think mac address filtering news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   worth do anymore he confirms that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   even if you have a wpa2 network or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   whatever all the MAC addresses of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   are visible because that's a layer 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   thing so and it's trivial to spoof MAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   address like I said on the show which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   acknowledged and he said it's incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   to assume that the person stealing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   mac address will have a bad experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   because the two conflicting MAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   addresses the network what will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   he says is the traffic will go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   whichever MAC address most recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34   responded to an ARP request so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   malicious person on the network just can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   send what he calls gratuitous arps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   say oh I'm the one who has that IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   address i'm a bit mac address and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   will effectively prevent your legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   house from ever getting a chance to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   i put a link in the show notes to arp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   address resolution protocol you can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   up what that is but basically once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   someone gets your mac address and spoofs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   it they can very quickly flood the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   network with with gratuitous arp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   responses saying oh I'm you know I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   guy with that mac address I'm over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05   and it's this IP address so just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   doing that and the other device since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   it's not malicious and not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   steal it's you know steal an address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   will never get any more packets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   we'll just sort of sit there and be sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16   uh so and he says okay even without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/616">TS</a>]

00:10:20   gratuitous arp sees had to be easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   just watch my network and select a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   address of a client that's not used very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   often ah like that's that's less likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   because most of my devices that are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   the Wi-Fi on all the time but uh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   worth pointing out to and he says most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   importantly wpa2 is very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   encryption and he compares putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   mac address filtering on it's a bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:41   locking the latch hook on on a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   door when you have a reinforced steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   security door right behind it so his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   advice is to just use wpa two with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   long good password and turn off mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   filter and that's what i did so i am now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   mac address filtering free on my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   wireless network and the last bit of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   defense is that this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01   things where you have to reevaluate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   stuff as time going on because i put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   mac address filtering back when I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:06   WEP when when the security was a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   right long long ago and just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   turned it off I just kept it on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   through a series of apple airport uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   wireless things that it keeps importing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   my setting and I just never turned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   off there well you know it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:19   thing to have on when you know the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   web security that was easy to break was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   just one extra layer of you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   more hurdle for hackers to overcome not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   a particularly high hurdle but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29   I just want to make it difficult but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   this point it is now completely moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   and I have turned off negative shall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   drink so thank you to Jesse lane let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   that be a lesson to anyone else out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   there who's doing that guy dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   filtering on their network although it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   seems like I may be the only one in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   entire world all right and the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/702">TS</a>]

00:11:47   piece of follow-up a lot of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:51   posting retrospectives about the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   yeah there's been a bunch of really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   things going on yeah they make their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   like uh you know supercuts will go cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   together the favorite parts of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   in audio form some of them are like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   five minutes worth of fun Clips some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   them are 20 minute long things I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   reading them listening to them thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   everyone who made one that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   work to go through so it does uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   were recognized as a true fan but one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   particular stuck out and this was by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   jonathan man who for the longest time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   just assumed was related Merlin man like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   cuz doesn't it if Merlin mad had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   younger brother don't you think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:28   be Jonathan man I you know that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/748">TS</a>]

00:12:32   have some things in common I and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   all right the musical stuff and like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   just went a different direction in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   life and sort of Merlin you know did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   music thing but then kind of went in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   different direction and his younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   brother was kind of following his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   footsteps and doing music thing and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   of went whole hog with it right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   sort of younger and more more energetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51   and vibrant still you know doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   those deep furrows his face huh anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/772">TS</a>]

00:12:56   there is actually no relation as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   I know between Jonathan Mann Maryland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   man but Jonathan Mann his description of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   his self is I'm a musician and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   songwriter best known for writing a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   a day mm-hmm he's been added for over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   1400 days straight and he's got an album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   called song a day the album that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   buy a pen leaked in the show notes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   literally write the song every day uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   and he made a song for me he did I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   have song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   number 1450 that's right a nice even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   number 2 i'm i was very that that alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   should have made you happy that it ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   in it it ended in a zero yes it did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   so it's youtube video you can watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33   video of him singing on the song i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34   wanted to well I wanted to have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35   haven't cleared this with him but would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   you shall we play it now I've got a cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   up and ready to go should we play it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   should we play it do you know on and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   intro outro of the show or I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47   to play the whole song is this long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   I want people to have to go to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/829">TS</a>]

00:13:50   minutes 18 seconds it's a tribute to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   it's not about a lot two minutes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:56   does the chat room think i'll give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   chat room a WoW chance to weigh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   should we play the song on the air or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   not well I answer that i'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   a few more things about the song so uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   trill they're gone nuts in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:12   look at this everyone wants to hear it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   don't know wants to hear it well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   the most response i've ever seen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   those jackals all right let me just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   bye for the last few things about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   song so well listen to the song i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   thought i was great and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   there were a couple of mistakes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   song starting with when he posted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   video to their mistakes in this song you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   get a point out yes but starting when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   posted with youtube it's called you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   hypercritical song of the day number Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   1450 and hypercritical is misspelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/878">TS</a>]

00:14:42   isn't missing I he forgotten I between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   the TMC right and so right away I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   suspicious right and then if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   the song lyrics Emily here in a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   he mentions that I have three kids but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   don't have three kids I only have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   and when he says the name of apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   desktop operating system he says OS X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   instead of always 10 and sound like hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   so I figured well you know I should at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/902">TS</a>]

00:15:06   least reply to this to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   replied to my Twitter I said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   just so you're not disappoint to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   the corrections for the song and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   couldn't tell if it was like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   doing intentionally not in he responded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   he said oops sorry I thought you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   three kids or whatever and I said just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   just pretend it was intentional because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   isn't that perfect like you would do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   song and intentionally put a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   mistakes in that way yeah you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   like just to give you something to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   so we are retconning it and saying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   the mistakes in this song are totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   song and we're not going to acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35   the jonathan actually made any mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   in the posting or creation of the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   alright so the chat room has spoken they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   desperately wanted to hear this role to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   12 as they say man okay when your soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:48   power is criticism will your options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   they're limited and you gotta watch what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   you say oh you say it too I love a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/954">TS</a>]

00:15:59   who's hot critical it makes complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   things understandable from toaster ovens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   too close to the metal he's hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   critical John siracusa is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/967">TS</a>]

00:16:12   hypocritical dropping knowledge you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   use up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   powerful he tears apart technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/977">TS</a>]

00:16:22   walter isaacson so specific with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   wife he likes the fancy things are done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   or will fall him from the beginning he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:33   didn't know what he had to say until he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   said it and how he's moving on now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:39   moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   after one hundred episode he's calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   equipped for he explodes no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   no more epigrams John siracusa you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:54   hyper critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   he's a man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   criticize my soul he sees wrapped in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:03   heart of things perfection is his cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   his podcast makes me wanna say handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:11   and why 21 nerd salute salute 21 nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:17   salute you're a pig OSX astute and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:21   let's just make sovereign who 20 wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   high five high five 21 high five you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:29   three kids and a beautiful white you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   live in the king nerd highlight John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   siracusa is so hypocritical he's a man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:40   not refuse out and criticized my soul he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:45   sees right to the heart of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   perfection is his try podcast makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:51   want to sing answered him by him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:55   and by I'll miss you dude you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:01   he says at the end of that I'll miss you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   doing it what I think he absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   means it it's very it's very sweet very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   nice song did you cry when you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:11   it but not I did alright well there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   go what things people said about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   show is they're surprised that so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   words rhyme with my last night I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   called good songwriting yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   that's called Jonathan man's the freakin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   genius yeah and what one of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   in the the chatroom said don't play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   as always x boobs yeah so i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:34   that's just perfect mistakes and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:37   which we're totally intentional as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   noted and so if you like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   thing check out Jonathan man's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   music and his album that is my last bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:47   of follow-up well that is the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:50   follow-up then forever I sure yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:57   Bob exists whether we're here or not Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   oh it's like if there's follow up and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   one around to hear it this is a sty exam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   now you're getting it yeah so under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:10   sponsor before we dive into the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   topic yeah I can compose myself a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   bit yeah that's right dry tries hanky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:19   mailchimp commies email newsletters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   you know it's only fitting it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   fitting that mailchimp is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   sponsors because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25   longest-running sponsor maybe one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   very first sponsors sponsored this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   more than probably any other one they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   email newsletters they help you design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   email newsletters they help you share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   them on social networks we use them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   send the frequency newsletter and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   want to see how easy it is to integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   their stuff with your stuff go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   frequency co and then you can see our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   little newsletter signup right there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47   same thing on 5 by 5 / newsletter they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:51   help you match it to your brand you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   integrate it with Facebook you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   import an existing list into mailchimp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   no matter how it's formatted you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   personalize everything your subscribers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   see you name it there's never been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   better time to try them out 2,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   subscribers and you can send twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   thousand emails per mon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   forever for free you want to I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   support five by five and give John a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   nice send-off MailChimp calm / 5 by 5 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:18   learn more now we do have one little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   little bit of follow-up that you did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   note note yet but that we should mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   all right the hypercritical t-shirts oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   yes yes it was decided that it will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33   be hypercritical in the stylized text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   that goes along with the artwork for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   show that was decided both by you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   the obviously audience supported you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43   we'll be doing those t-shirts in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   think the first week of the year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   first week of January which actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   next week and that will be we will we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:54   going to pick a color you will approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   it people have also asked for mugs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   well we'll have a separate run of mugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:03   that will not be part of this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   because the shipping and the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   it's probably gonna be easier but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   don't know maybe we'll combine them if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   can it's logistics john it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13   on the mug then same thing as a shirts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:14   think I think the mugs could be the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:18   thing as a shirt because you've approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   it what do you think he wants not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   fine with me I mean lots of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   are requesting like people who were on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   the short end of the shirt survey now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   we're trying to get Redemption well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   know I was outvoted by the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   for the shirt but can I get whatever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   my favorite on the mug and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   if people have different opinions in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   mugs but anyway I'm perfectly fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   the name of the show just like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   shirt being on the mug if you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   whole hog and have a separate survey for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   mugs you can do that but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   don't you know I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   necessary but it's up to you okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   David so the best way to keep up to date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   since there won't be another episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   hyper critical to listen to to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   information about it I think the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   way to find out about it would be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   follow five-by-five on twitter where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   will tweet about it will probably do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   blog post on blog five by five that TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   at some point but obviously you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   listen to the frequency where we do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   news but if that's too much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   commitment then just follow five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   on Twitter and we'll tweet about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   we'll have a link to it from the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   as well and I'll tweet about it from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   account for sure siracusa and also from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   the hypercritical account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   so if you for all any of those accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   I there will be treated or retweeted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   you know you'll find out about it rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   assured we will not but you uh miss this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   I I guess maybe some people like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   follow everything in Twitter but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   five by five announcement county there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   allow you yeah well that was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   compared to what you do on hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   may be hypercritical yeah Laura's volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:44   so like even if you're if you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   think oh that i missed we just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46   twitter.com / hypercritical and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   look to the last ten tweets for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   something that has to do with shirts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   mean it's not high volume on my account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   so you'll you'll see the announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   all right we're ready for the main topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1374">TS</a>]

00:23:00   I'm ready ah this like I said I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:05   this will be a short main topic but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:09   know that's it is what it is and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   after that we'll do the Q&A ah so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   kind of heartened to see that so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   fans of the show correctly guessed what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:19   the topic for the final show would be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   tried not to confirm to any of them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   they were getting it right but it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25   me feel like I was along the I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   the right track the fact that so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   people said that they thought this about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   you last episode be now maybe some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   them were joking maybe a lot of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   joking maybe all of them were joking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36   because there were certainly jokes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   with the last episode be about or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   they'll you know be indefinite and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   go on forever and all sorts of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   things but I'd like to believe that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   their heart of hearts that they knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   that their guest was true the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   are actually correct can you then guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   what the final topic is going to be I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:51   intentionally not looked at any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54   predictions I have intentionally stayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   as far away from whatever the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:02   the predictions of this would be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   I wanted to I wanted to you know be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:09   surprised as I am every week being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   surprised so no and I haven't and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:15   intentionally not thought about it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   all i've tried not to think about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   want to come into this completely fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:23   and an open-minded beginner's mind as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   saw i was about to say beginner's mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   seven a mind-meld here's right welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   mind well don't jump in before i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   mock you with your own sayings all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   yeah that's beginner's mind all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   I hope when I say this it will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   sense to the final topic for the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   hypocrite of episode is what is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   with the hypocritical podcast that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   that's perfect so much wrong with it how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:50   could it be how could the topic be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   anything else yes this is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   because you know that's how you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   how you ended we're gonna take a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   this podcast of which there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   100 episodes is 98 of which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   featuring me ah and what what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   what's wrong with this thing will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   focus on the 98 that included you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   technically can you criticize the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:13   that is happening right now can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   criticize this episode is that like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:19   what I have to say will apply to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   episode as well okay because what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   gonna suggest and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   what's coming is that we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   follow-up show she criticized this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   episode I strident look I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   put that out there and I mean you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   gonna have to run with it alright so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   got I've got a small number of items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   here and of course since I'm the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   criticizing the show i'm also going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:42   provide counterpoint because i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   the one producer on the show okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   alright so it's kind of you know it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   arguing with myself but it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   not really like a winning or losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   argument there are bad things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   and there are reasons that the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   things exist and so i'm going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   about the bad things and what's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   about them and then explain why it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   that they exist doesn't make them not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   bad it's just you know i'm i'm doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   sides of this right cuz you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   the way it has to be all right and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   the list is kind of sorted but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   really like the first thing i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   think is the worst thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   podcast and then i'll get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   better and i just kind of stopped like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   there are many more things wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15   the hypercritical podcast then i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   to list but I feel like I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   highlights after a handful of bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   alright so the number one thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   wrong with the hypocritical podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   again i will give you one last chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26   guests and what is the number one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   was wrong with a critical podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   besides the descending know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   gonna be my answer was that identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   well you know you got to pick something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   different nothing i can't think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:39   single thing that I don't like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   this show beside the defending besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   it attending all right well here like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   mean I'm not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   I'm not Haddie I mean need to back me up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   she's looking I Britt I can't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   anything all right here so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:56   nothing wrong with the John I did think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   of some things in here they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   number one thing was wrong with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:01   hyprocure podcast is follow-up that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   nothing wrong with that were you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   about you're not supposed to argue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:07   me I garona myself oh yeah I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   your chance to give your account online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   well I'll be quiet yes also abbreviated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   as fu is the people who might not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:17   is the part of the show we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   talk about the topics discussed on past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   shows and we revisit them usually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   revisit them in response to listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   feedback sometimes it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   self-feedback where I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   something was wrong or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   need to correct it there's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   types of fu we have Corrections which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   you know the comic-con we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37   expansions where it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   about the thing we talked about last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39   week here's some more about it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   also clarifications where if i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   something it was misunderstood i try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:44   clarify it so what's so bad about follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   up follow up happens at the start of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51   show and so it necessarily delays the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   discussion of whatever the new topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   just like on the show right here before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   we got to this part where you were talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   about what's wrong with a hyper go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   podcast we have to follow up it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02   delayed this discussion and a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   tweet from fans the show or things I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   you know going back forth between people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   after we do a show or some topic comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   up we'll say oh there was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   discussion about whatever this topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   you know in hypercritical episode number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   96 I just you know check it out and skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   the minute 35 and here's an actual tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   from being comparables Twitter account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   the inoperable another podcast that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   participated in assuming this tweet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   made by Jason Snell he usually runs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   account for other people tweet to it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   well I think uh here it is it says if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   you liked our bed at high school episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   check out Syracuse on hypercritical this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   week and it gives a link to the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   starts 57 minutes in so that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   thing where whenever anyone wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   recommend the show to someone else they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   have to say I'll here check this one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   and like skip a half an hour an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   into the show because they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   say I'll just check this out because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   you just start listening you're like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   thought they said this was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56   about you know whatever that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   bad of high school stuff and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   listening and he's talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   stuff right anytime you know it anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:05   anyone talks about the show they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   give some sort of minute marker type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   thing and I find myself holding back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   from suggesting episodes of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   podcast of people just so I can avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   having to explain that I'll be checkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   episode but you have to skip to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   certain marker pointer skip skip a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   quarter of the show to get to the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   part it makes the podcast harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   share with people and it makes it harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   to get into if you're a new listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   because the follow-up is not relevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   you if you didn't hear the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   episode if you just chase that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   way back you end up having to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   listening for episode 1 which is two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   years ago and that's not really uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38   tenable and also the follow-up makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   each episode longer because instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   just starting right in with a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   that we want to talk about a new episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   that you know 10 15 20 30 40 sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   apparently 57 minutes of stuff before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:52   the actual topic of the show just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   every episode longer so a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:59   remedies for the follow-up have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   recommended over the years one early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   people saying why don't we just put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   fall but the end ha so like so could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   listen and say don't forget it I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   don't wanna hear anymore this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   this stop or yeah but you get like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   you get whatever the main topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   immediately so if you if there we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   some cool show like you know video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   controllers something you could say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   there was this episode about this uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   check it out and just give you the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   to episode whatever and you'd start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   listening and you would hear immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   after the little intro you'd hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   video can we control switch is what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   friend one sent you the link for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30   then at the end you would have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   follow-up and very early on that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   suggested and I rejected it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   breaks continuity the way we do it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40   develop on the front preserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   continuity because like on an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   we'll discuss topic a and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   episode will end and then the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   episode we'll have more on topic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   because it's follow-up and babble end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   and then we'll do topic be right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   other thing is that the topic be may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   build on topic a so if we didn't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   follow-up in the beginning say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   talking about topic be we'd have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   add some sort of waffling like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   that we said last week the blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   blah but that isn't actually true which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   you'll see when we get to the follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   at the end like you can't you can't move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   on until you've addressed the follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11   is if you're talking about the new topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   you want to talk about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   light of the new revelations or new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   clarifications or expansions at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   from last week so follow up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   engines does not work for me people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   suggested adding a chapter marker in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:25   file itself are having separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   follow-up episodes like a little mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   episode and then the main episode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:30   having a separate feed for follow-up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33   three of those solutions aside from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   production related issues which you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36   speak to to say whether that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:37   feasible or whatever uh is that they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   encourage skipping of the follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   because the reason you'd want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   that marker and other stuff is like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   well there's that the follow up is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   of isolated if you don't want to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   to you can jump right past that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   want people who don't pass that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:52   people to actually listen to the fall so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   why why why do we have follow-up why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   it there after all these bad things I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   said it but I truly believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:00   follow-up really is a big downside to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   the show that you know really stops it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   from being accessible and stops from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   being shared and all the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   would want like if you wanna make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   popular podcast you wanted to be easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11   shared you want people to be jumped to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   jump right and so why do I do it ah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   I think it's part of the theme of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   shows that are the dedication to getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   things correct have the attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   detail and you know in the highfalutin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   version that the search for truth or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26   know when as close as we can get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   continuity like you know where you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31   listening and we're talking about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   that we did in the last show continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   repels casual Lister's but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   rewards dedicated listeners because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   feel like oh now I'm resuming this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   in progress I think we've seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   recently with television shows as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   where people used to be allergic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   continuity on television people who made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   TV shows would try to make everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   episodic but slowly but surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   television series have been learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   that yes continuity does make it hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   get into a program but with time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   shifting and everything it's easier for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   people to start from the beginning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   you know get it on DVD or streamer door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   whatever and continuity rewards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   people who are dedicated fans of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   show so that's sort of flipped around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   and it's the same dichotomy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   podcasting enthusiastic fans want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   hear more about the topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   interested in so if I talk about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   topic and you know you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   it you're happy when you start the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   show to hear more on that topic or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   sort of fall pour a little tidbit fob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   also of course rewards the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   listeners who write in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   follow-up they get the thrill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27   hearing their name is pronounced on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   air and it's exciting that is a thrill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:30   yeah they get to participate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   conversation not really like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   real-time like a call-in show but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   get to be a participant in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   conversation that those thing to all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:40   with a massive time delay sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   get to fault their own follow up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44   next show so they can have sort of a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   know an even longer conversation and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   this I think encourages hardcore fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   and helps the show by harvesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   information that would otherwise be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   locked away in listeners minds so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   know if you ever listen to a podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   you get frustrated because the host of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   like wondering about something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   know the answer damn you wished you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   yell into the thing like no no like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   let me tell you what it is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   follow-up provides an outlet for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   frustration instead of just going these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   dopes don't they know or you know or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   you know the answer you can't yell back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   into the pipe guess but if you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   follow-up is part of the format you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   say well soon as I get home I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   bang on email and say hey guys you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   asking about XYZ I know about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   here's the answer and not only is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   outlet for the frustration for them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   I'm now reaping the benefits of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   smart informed audience like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   presumably someone in our audience knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   a lot about you know wireless security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   or history of video game controllers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   how Intel does their CPUs or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   I'm benefiting from that so I despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   the fact that I think this is clear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   of us clear the biggest thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   wrong with the show those are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   reasons that I keep it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:48   early on decided to keep it and it stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   with it and the other thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53   follow-up is it it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   follow-up ends up being the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   enduring aspect of of the shows i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   thinking about this I'd listen to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01   of other pot gets a lot about the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   by five podcast and a lot of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:06   follow-up uh sometimes like ironically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   or jokingly like for the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   happen to know me like Marco our Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   will say oh yeah and I've got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   piece of follow-up or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   they're doing it kind of half joke haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   like it's not a dedicated part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   format but anytime I do have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   like that they'll throw it in right uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   but even on shows like I can geek Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   I don't think either of the hosts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   geek Friday ever listened to my show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   yet they have follow-up as well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   wonder you know kind of like cutting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   ends off the roast you know that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   no it's only the story it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:37   woman is making a roast or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   she's cutting off the ends of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41   sometimes why why are you cutting off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   the ends of your roasters oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   know my mother always cut the ends off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44   you always have to do that makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   Rose come out better and then they asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:49   the mother you know your daughter said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   you always have to cut off the ends of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   the rose when you put in the of it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   come out better while you do that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   well my grandmother you know my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   your grandmother always cut the ends off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   throws you have to do that or as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   doesn't come out right and so they asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   the grandmother why'd you cut the ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   off the rose and said well I'm all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   roasting pans were too small so I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   had to cut the ends off for so-and-so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   like three generations no no one knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   why you're cutting the ends off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09   roses like oh that's what you do when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:10   you make roast right it's just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   thing too so I'm wondering if like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   people who do geek Friday do they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   where follow-up comes from and even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   outside the network you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   second incarnation of the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   which is no longer even on five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   Gruber does fall tonight show as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   you know this is my lasting legacy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   five degrees separator from five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   Don some podcast somewhere some will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   mention that they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   follow-up and have no idea why they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   doing that or where that term came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   or where that format I mean I'm maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   I'm not the first person ever to do fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   out but I think I can trace a straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   line through from my follow-up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   very least Marco and merlyn's follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   probably the Friday's fall property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   Gruber's follow-up as well so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   there is some merit to this idea perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   not to the degree that I did it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:54   show but you know every show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   different all right item number two that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:01   is wrong with the hypercritical podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   of the title I think there are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   very few people who have positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   feelings about the word hypercritical in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   people who don't already know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   podcast or blog or anything else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   that it it repels most normal people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   with negative implications of the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   because like being critical as a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:21   thing in most circles being critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   hurts people's feelings and hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   critical is even worse hi from critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   is being needlessly critical like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   being a jerk like you're not just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   critical but you bring hypercritical so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   you're just a super-duper jerk and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   why would you want a podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34   hurting people's feelings needlessly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   just turns it's a big turnoff it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   turns people off uh and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   acknowledge that now what so why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   have this title well the first reason is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:48   that the ARS technica article that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   wrote several years before the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   had the same name as its title is titled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:54   hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   protocol and that was the inspiration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   for the show for the format of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   the content of the show everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   the show a link to this articles in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   show notes one last time if you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   haven't found it ah that's not exactly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   reason to use it for the title the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07   podcast but that's why I originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   picked it second reason is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   kind of a hedge against criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   because people are going to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16   listened that show the guys so picky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   he's got so many complaints and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   can answer that you know well what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   title of the show like what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   think you were getting it does what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   says on the tin as the saying goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   stolen from England or wherever uh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   show is called hypercritical so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   should expect that type of thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   now that's not exactly doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   sense just because that's the title the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   show that doesn't answer if your if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   issue is that the i'm too picky on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   show and the show is full of complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   me telling you that all will just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   at the title the show doesn't answer any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   of your complaints it's not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   come it's not a justification at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   that doesn't mean it doesn't placate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   people because people are not logical so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   I find that when people say you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   see this I said compensation copying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58   the time in the chat room and Twitter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   whatever someone listen to the show say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   it's full of complaints and it's picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03   other person will say well duh look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   the title of the show and that ends the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   conversation and it shouldn't but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   does uh toughie like I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:12   that's a justification for the title but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   it's one of those perverse actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   interactions that happens all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   uh and pointing to the title the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   somehow ends the debate they go well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   okay I guess and that really shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   be telling people it shouldnt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   shouldn't end the debate because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27   haven't actually answered the criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   if you don't like the show because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:29   there's too much complaint someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   pointing the title to you doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   you like the show any better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   shouldn't stop you from having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   complaint so I don't have a real good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:39   justification except that I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   title it's hard to come up with good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   titles i became attached to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   it was attached to that article which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   involved both me and steve jobs and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   it was the inspiration for the show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   it only makes sense for it to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   title ah but it does it does keep people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   away next item show duration here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:58   one a lot shows are too long okay i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   i can get on board with this one a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   little bit because you must suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   through them to know I it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   suffering and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   but here's the thing mayotte may I jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   in here go for it it's not that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   shows are too long it's that the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   are longer than most other shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   other people would hear especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:23   the format that this show is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:27   pretty much you talking and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:32   think that it's that they're too long I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   think it's longer than what many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   are used to what many people expect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   perhaps what many people have time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   but I would my counterpoint to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   before you respond is that's what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:45   the shows great and that any less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   any less time than you devote to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   things would be carelessness from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   standpoint I think I'm not saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   would be careless I'm saying you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   because of your desire to be complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   and to totally understand something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03   discuss it you must examine every point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   and for you to do any less would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   disservice and so the show bank argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:12   logically it doesn't make it that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   sense because as we both pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   many times like you don't have to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   to an entire show in a single sitting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   certainly don't like I I listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   even very short podcasts split up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   pieces maybe some people find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   off-putting but like you know when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   on my commute when i get home i stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   whatever podcast and listening to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   it's always in the middle of one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   know it's rarely at the end but as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   just got done saying people are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   logical and you know they just I well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   just don't like listening to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:37   split up like you know it even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   ignoring the session length issue like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   just want to have one listening session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43   it needs to be a certain length and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   don't like stopping in the middle as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   said some people just don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   listen to two hours of audio in the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   like maybe they don't have a commute or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   maybe they don't have two hours with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   dishes to wash or maybe they prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   music most of the time right and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   if your podcast is good enough a 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   minute or 60 minute podcast has a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   of snagging people who don't normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   listen to podcast so if you're like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03   right well I don't normally have a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04   in my life where I listen to podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   again don't have a commuter don't I to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   listen to music other times or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08   if the podcast is really good and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11   like 30-60 minutes maybe you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   some of those guys but it's like 90 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14   120 minutes forget it like it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   hard to get those people to come over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   listen to your podcast if it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   long right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:21   uh and so why the heck of my show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   long and by the way there was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25   let me grab the link in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   there's another more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   analysis of show length still showing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   general upward trend but of course that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33   trend and now because the show link will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   suddenly drop to zero driving yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:39   the show length won't drop to zero there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   would just be no more shows yeah I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   I you're right uh so so why is this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   long well the first thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   preparation for the show makes shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:51   shorter because when I know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   gonna say I don't like meander as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   and I can kind of say okay i'm halfway i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   do i'ma quarter through whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   even with our literally hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   preparation for each oh the the limiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   factor is that i have a lot to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:06   these topics and thoroughness is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   the theme of the show right I said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   my writing before that like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   important thing for me when I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   for a good or for ill is to get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   ideas I have out onto the page every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   little thing like you know I will find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   it frustrating if I get through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24   section and like a Mac os10 review or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   something it's like oh I wanted to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   make one particular point about this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:31   control in the interface and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   find someplace to jam that I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   to get it all out like I want to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   want to finish the thing and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   didn't make that point because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   didn't have room or something so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   to get it out and of course fault makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   the show longer and it's also part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   the same sort of thoroughness theme but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   it's but it's like you said like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   if I have what to say I want to get it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   lot i don't feel satisfied if I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   and I think that fits with the theme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   the show that you know not wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   let things go the thoroughness you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   the attention to detail just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   obsessed the general obsessiveness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   the entire endeavor and that just plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   results in long show so the preparation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   is a hedge against that but even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08   with the preparation all does is let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   get my you know umpteen points out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   make sure to make sure I got them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   out and didn't miss any ah yeah next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:20   item and you touched on this already and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:24   maybe they should've been higher listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   domination of a single voice which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   mine no matter how much you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   person hearing too much from them can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   start to wear you down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   you you Dan are the co-host of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   but for the most part you let me talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   when I want to talk well sir I mean I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   say this to Merlin is a joke it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:42   show this really is it's your show this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   your form of my role here from from day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:48   one is just to be supportive of that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   give help help you keep this platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   and you know the best it can be we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   sync today damn because the very next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   item of my whole point is it's my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   you know as you're so fond of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   well you finally shared your notes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   me yeah there you go I and this is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   general how I want things uh but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   downside of this format is that siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12   fatigue is a real risk especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15   long shows right uh you know and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19   corollary to this is that this format of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   you know the single voice dominant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   makes it much harder for me to not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   I'm good at this already but makes much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27   harder for me to do any sort of decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28   interview like when we had Jeff Atwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   on I talked to all rim which was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   rude and terrible that's great but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   like if you get acclimated to that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   like when you do the hyper go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37   podcast you go into hyper critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   podcast mode in your use of just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   the singular voice uh that doesn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   with lots of other formats like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   example doing an interview type thing uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   and that's a shame but that limits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   show and in general having a single boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   means that my peculiar taste dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   entire shows worth of material so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   really interested in console controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   so we do hall show on console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   controllers it might my own pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   programming language peeves and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   like that tons of stuff on tivo even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   the rest of the world is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:06   interested in tivo toasters like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   name it single voice means that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   everything that comes with that the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   and the bad right and if it was a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   balanced show like a second opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   could help veto topics that are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   narrow or you know or at least rein me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   in when I'm wearing out my welcome on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   single topic or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   that would help the show have broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   appeal because if it was like if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   like an equal type of show where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   have like two people going at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   time they could balance each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   try to get something that had a broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   appeal because if you're not interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   in things that I'm interested in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   single voice show like this you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   like like people skip entire episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   like oh we just started talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   programming languages I just tuned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   and skip the whole episode ah and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   not the way to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   popular show was brought appeal so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   why is this a single boy show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   mentioned that that's what I wanted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   is what I wanted out of the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   wanted to do a thing where we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   podcast and it was my podcast and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   to talk with the singular voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   moderated by co-host yes and like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   think is it a totally essential element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   hmm because I've tried and failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   several times to record things on my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   with no co-host and it just does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   work uh and I'm the wing of the wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15   beneath your wings if you yes and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   remember when you went on vacation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   not vacation when you moved your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   it's like the UH in the secret of NIMH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   when the Brisby move their house that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   where I'm at in your movies that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   exactly what it was the rats and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   alleys and yes yes that I meaning in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   every detail exactly like someone got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   crushed underneath a cinder block it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   messy Oh ademas sorry Helen when you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:37   you had a guest host stand in so he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   not just it you know who was a Ryan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   Ireland yeah I think Ryan Ireland uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   stood in for for me back then he did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   great job and he'd also hosted the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   with Marco but uh you know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   wasn't the same maybe because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   know those were his first first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   ever talking to me in person and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   first couple shows and he you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58   did a good job filling the role of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   co-host but it's not just any co-host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   like I think you in particular provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   certain essential ingredient to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   podcast ah so I think that does have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:12   be a co-host in the mix and not just any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   Coast because it like those shows were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   different then the shows that the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   host but I wanted the overall show to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22   have a singular voice the same way I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   your own blog has a singular voice right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:28   like you know hi vulajin or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   like that is your voice it's not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   it's not even moderated by a co-host or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   anything basement blog you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   co something I but like that's it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   is the podcast version of a blog I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   wanted some ones that I want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   what this one person has say I go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   this is his podcast I'll listen to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   talk right and part of your roles also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   that you are sort of standing in you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   the advocate for the audience a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   bit like right whether it's just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   at the chat room or thinking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54   questions that are going to come up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55   the audience's mind and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   forth so I mean you know because we and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   that's the thing is that that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   mentioned before where we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   follow-up because we won't you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   might say something or you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:07   talking about something and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   get a something that's not hun percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   right a lot of the time the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   will channel that but when I hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:13   say something a lot at the time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   just there's something in my gut it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   wait a minute this doesn't happen a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   especially not when we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   technical stuff because they you you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   got all that figured out when we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   talking about the other stuff that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   where there's like a judgment involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   and I think well maybe I needs you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   what are they going to say to that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   I'm you know you've got it I've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   jump in so maybe it's just that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   it's just that you feel that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   you're not alone talking into a mic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   even though you know there's an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   there listening having me here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   I did it makes it more of a discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   even though it's it's pretty much your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   turn on the podium the whole time yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   yeah so like i said i think i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   does limit the appeal of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   because no matter how it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   anybody think of your favorite celebrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   like like a Ricky Gervais so like say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   you're a big fan of him or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:00   mean he's he's great if it were my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   choice you're my favorite celebrity he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   was just a show with him totally even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   the shows that he does he has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07   partner that be kind of bounces off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   it's more equal night so just having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:10   like having a single person dominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   blog I feel it much easier to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   than having a single person dominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   podcast so it you know especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:22   know if you if you if that person is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   like likable and appealing that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   limits how how many people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:30   be able to listen to and like the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   but that by that's what I wanted that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   I wanted was a single voice podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35   that's what I got ah next item it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:41   wrong with hypercritical podcast is want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   me wanting to discuss topics that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   outside my areas of expertise all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   not doing enough background research on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   those topics what's an example of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   those well get the examples I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   the past shows that I'm not a journalist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   and because i can't just write about any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   topic like a real journalist you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   throw it a topic they'll learn about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   talk about it ah it you know in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   when i do writing i stick to what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05   actually know stuff about or I'm close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   to knowing about so i can do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   bit of research and figure it out uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   though i have you no interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14   passionate about lots of topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   I break the format a little bit when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   tackle things on the podcast that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   have little practical experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   and it changes for me the podcast then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   changes from me sharing informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   opinions and backgrounds with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   audience to me having what one listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   once described as a slow-motion argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   with the Internet where where it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   like me discussing something with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   listeners in the show but in slow motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   because I get to have my say then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   do a bunch of fall and then it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42   back around then we go on and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   examples of this urban we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   patents or voting technology or geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   culture areas where I'm not an expert in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50   any of them and tried to say that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51   front but that it changes the the nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   of the show in a strange way and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   turn into the you know slow motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   discussion / argument with the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   internet or the audience of the show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   why why do I do that why not stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   topics that I know well well as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   already established it is a single voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:09   podcast and I do have an interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   those topics and I want to discuss them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   ah and I actually like that slow motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:17   argument with listeners experience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   the most part although I'd college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   discussion not an argument I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   enjoy that that's why I do it so much is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   why we had 17 episodes about patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   where I just kept talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   beginning it was I kind of like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   does kind of split the pot guests into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   two kinds of episodes though the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   where I know the kind where I generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   know more about a topic than most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   audience and the kind where I do not hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   but I don't like some people like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   kind of episode some people like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   other some people like hearing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   me talk about my mac OS 10 review where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   I've you know already thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   these issues and research them and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   about them ahead of time and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48   written about them then I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   clarifying that people like those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:50   or talk about the top of good I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51   about like programming languages or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   know file systems or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   and other people like the episodes bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57   that are more open-ended where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   talking about something that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   aren't as many hard and fast things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   I don't even know all the facts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   background like patents or you know geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   culture something some people like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   type of episodes I like to have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   kinds of episodes in the podcast but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   does make it so it kind of splits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   podcast and to where you never know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   you're going to get if you tune in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   because you heard like the Walter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   Isaacson thing where i know tons about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   Steve Jobs and everything I can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   really dissect that book like oh wow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:22   want to hear this guy talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   things that he's an expert in and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   the next show on patents where I man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   admitted non-expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   like what happened to the show I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   listening to and by the same token if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   you like oh I like that geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32   episode you find out that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   generally not the type of thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   talked about this kind of squishy topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36   and instead I do an episode about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   details of the wii u controller it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   like what happened to the podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   wanted to listen to me right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   can't I'm you know you can't please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   everyone with both of those topics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   it does it you know it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   to podcasts in one and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   like one are probably not going to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   the other as much alright and the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:56   item again this is not like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   thing that's wrong with the show there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   are many many many more things wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:00   I bet you and the audience can list them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   on your own maybe make your own list but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   this is the one I stopped on because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   figured that like you know diminishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   returns like i've hit the highlights the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   final thing is wrong with the podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   it's not a full-time job for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12   everything about this show would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   improved with more time and effort on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   part i would have more time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18   preparation instead of just preparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   for several hours like i do it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   prepare and then go back and edit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   preparation which I generally don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26   time to do like I go from top to bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   prepare my notes and like that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   several hours and said put in the links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   and that's it I don't have time to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   back again and again and go over it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   know I could if I did I could formulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   actual segments like to try to have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40   complex segments with more moving parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   and more interesting things in them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43   could do much better background research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   on things but like it is a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   amount I'm I can dedicate to this uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   since it's not my full-time job I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   did learn many of the skills that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   help improve a podcast in general like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   proper diction and less mumbling more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:58   polished segues between segments fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   um Xand us and all the verbal tics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   saying right with a question mark after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   every have you listened to to the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:08   that you started out doing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09   ninety some episodes back compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12   yourself to the way you are now you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   pro I mean first of all you were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   good in the beginning but your total pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   now you don't have any of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   anymore I've improved but I can fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21   all the time like a you know I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   is that if it was a full-time job I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   confident that I would be better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   these things and so if you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   to a podcast for two years you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:30   Jesus guys still almond his way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   this and it's driving me nuts and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   right like after two years you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   think wouldn't he'd be better after two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   years but like I'm doing this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   couple of hours a week it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   full-time job like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   you know I'm not gonna say I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:42   professional podcaster because I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   technically a professional podcaster but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   it is not a full-time job and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   listen to podcasts you know from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   your podcast is your full-time job right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   like there's a difference in level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   Polish about you know sort of beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   their skills between these type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3358">TS</a>]

00:55:59   things that you know and for podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   like mine that I think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   difference in terms of the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   research you like listen to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   radio lab or something or this american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   life you might have work and that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   into an episode of this american life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   tremendous it's like it's like more work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   done it to my entire podcast right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   then they have like a one hour show out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   of that huge amount of work that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   obviously that's extreme obvious i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   never attain that level but they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   entire staff and these people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23   doing it for 20 years right but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   goes to show if you had more time to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   into the podcast would be better so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   think that kind of you know separates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   the podcast world into it shows that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:35   done by like a staff of super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   experienced people and this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   full-time job versus shows that are done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   by some dude for a couple hours a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   and there's a line between those and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   saying you know i enjoy lots of shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   that are just like that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   roderick online for example I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   Roderick just shows up for that one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   talks for an hour and that's it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   still love it but that is a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   kind of show than this american life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   the whole range in between you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   five by five shows Spang the spectrum in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01   there right but that is a thing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   with the show and so here are my overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   comments on the show after going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   my list of things that are specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   wrong with it again feel free to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   your own list feel free to email me your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   things that are on the show i will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   be able to follow up on them but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   read them ah so i think a common dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   among creative people i don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   phrases creative people who do creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   things people who like create something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   and put it out there for the world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   consume a common dream among a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   those people is to do something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   you're really passionate about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   whatever it is that you love i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   podcasting i love painting all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   painting horses you just want to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40   know I really love painting or so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   totally going to do that you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   something you super passionate about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   then also have millions of people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   it and love you for doing it right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   just did the right thing I do it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   time anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54   but in the end you can only control one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   part of that dream you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   control whether millions of people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:01   horse paintings you can only control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   whether you do the thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   passionate about and so hyper critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   as a podcast was I think a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   reflection of my passions and interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   and my personality like I did the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   part of it I did the what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   interested in do that thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   passionate about uh and I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:22   can't control the other half of it of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   how many people like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   unfortunately doing things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   focused on what my interest severely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   limited the appeal of the program yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34   like I yes that the popularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   hypercritical was also limited by all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:37   the bad things that is discussed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:38   they're also limited by the peel of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   as a person and there's there's an ethos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   that embraces this type of phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45   where you go oh well I'm too high per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   liter regular people know this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   is not like it's it's way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   complicated for you know like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   know that the world is not most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   world is not going to be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   to you know you know the most the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   is not interested in horse paintings see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   all you know these parts paintings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   much issa fistik ater for you it is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02   I'm only I'm only speaking to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   horse painting aficionados out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   right and I think that's mostly like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   preemptive defense against being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   rejected by the world because you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:12   like I know you're gonna reject me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13   let me just go out and say I'm this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   very exclusive this is you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   know if that's a hipster thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   whatever with it yeah you can't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19   to the show it's much much too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20   complicated for you right uh so well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:24   acknowledge the effects that my very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   specific interest have on the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   and how deeply you know I care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   them I want to do the apps i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   also extractor expand by audience by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   conveying these passions about horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   paintings or whatever in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   makes other people care about them too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   so I very careful not to say oh no what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:42   you know your mom shouldn't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43   hypercritical even though I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   saying that all the time too but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:46   tried to I try to be inclusive and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   say okay well I'm really passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   about video game controllers and it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   you probably wouldn't haven't heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   it so you know maybe you shouldn't let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:55   do it i wanted the opposite i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:56   successfully have a show that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:56   successfully have a show that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3596">TS</a>]

01:00:00   some person who doesn't care about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   topic care about them like some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   favorite feedback is when someone tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04   me that they never even thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   some topic before but then they listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:09   to me talk about it for two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   enjoyed every minute of it like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   never played video games before but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   listened to your to our thing on video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   game controls and I loved it or I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   even use a Mac but listen to your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:17   os10 things and I was really interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   in that is the best kind of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   that's what I'm trying to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   show uh and so it's me sticking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24   thing that I'm passionate about and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   totally doing that and even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   can't control the having millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   people love it part I can at least not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   preemptively close myself off by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   that the show is to to elite for regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:40   people so to sum up I I think I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   good about the body of work so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   that I'm leaving behind these 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   episodes I think buried among all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   these silliness and blabbering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   meandering there was some actual good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:55   inside and tech analysis buried in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:58   little nuggets of it if I had more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:01   I could have written a nice google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   searchable blog post about every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   those topics like it was the mark twain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:06   thing if I had more time over to bring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   shorter letter that's totally true like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   when I that's part of the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   wanted to applaud cast is because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   found i wasn't blogging that much but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   had all these ideas like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   if I could just sitting from them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   we're going to talk about them yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   there'd be a lot of flab and stuff but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   would get out these one or two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   little insights or tidbits or opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   that i wanted to get out right uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   you know but i couldn't so podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:30   was perfect for that and podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   feels a different role I think than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33   blogging you know tech blogging in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   typical tech blog type of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   it's not just information at insight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   analysis is also hopefully entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   it could even be like companionship or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   you know auditory comfort of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   hearing those voices hearing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   hypercritical theme song startup you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   know mm-hmm and sometimes it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   background noise sometimes just when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:51   you're cleaning the house you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52   have something on its background oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:53   nuts you can't you can't do that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:54   blog post right uh so I I want to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3714">TS</a>]

01:02:00   all the listeners who wrote in over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   years even if I didn't talk about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   feedback on the show and for the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   majority of it I did not talk about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   feedback on the show because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08   only so much room in the show and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   follow-up was long enough as it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10   rest assured that I did read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:13   I want to thank you Dan for hounding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   until I did the show I'm reminded of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   Daniel jackets often stated policy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   saying yes to things even when every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   part of your minded body is telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   to say no I don't totally agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   that philosophy but like most good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   advice it's I think it's good in small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29   doses and this was doing this podcast at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   all was definitely a case of that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   guess finally before we do the QA Dana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   malt of this show oh I'm trying to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   bow tie on the entire podcast and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   do so by paraphrasing Dickie Fox from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:46   the end of a well-known movie I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:50   know if you can guess the movie my video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   audience can as well look I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   all the answers to be honest in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:55   podcast I failed as often as I succeeded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   but I've loved doing it I don't regret a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   single episode and i wish you my kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   success do you really think i won't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   that movie i don't know if you know move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   either i can never guess what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   gonna know it is one of the i have there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10   there's like three movies make me cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   it's not one of them is that rude the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:16   first one is Rushmore the second one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   Jerry Maguire the third one is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   wonderful life it's a wonderful life oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:25   man I know I'm so I'm sentimental guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   what can I say I don't guess that one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:30   my guess is that it this isn't from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   Rushmore you get those curso must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   Jeremy glory but i do love Rushmore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3814">TS</a>]

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01:03:42   got two more sponsors I mean that's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   still got to pay the bills on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   I know what you a nod to haven't turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   it in yet you can't you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   unlimited time oh really well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   because we're an hour in unlimited with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:57   scare quotes there's a lot of pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   on me though because if I don't ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   questions that the listeners you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:02   what really their chance then they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:05   it alright this can just be I so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   you're clearing me of all everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   coming up milhouse tan it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   international immunity like I'm a damn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:16   diplomat I can do no wrong yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   shutterstock.com where you'll find over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   20 million stock photos vectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   illustrations video clips you just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   shutterstock.com you'll find the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26   image for your web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:26   I add publication whatever create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   project are working on you can choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   between an image pack monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32   subscriptions there's these enhanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   licenses let you get pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   anything you want to use for any purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   like swag hey mugs whatever it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   want to do they don't charge you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   for the extra large files you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   download any image in any size and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46   pay only one price they don't nickel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   dime you for the hi-res stuff you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:52   there and you sign up me I mean if even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:53   if you just want one image you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   get one image or you can create these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   light boxes there's an iPad app for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   too by the way which is cool but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:01   light boxes let you organize things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:02   curate things share them with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   friends or coworkers you can do this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   for free over at shutterstock.com when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:11   you figure out what you want to buy use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12   the offer code dan sent me 12 dan sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:16   me one too and you'll get thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   off any package check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   shutterstock.com southworth in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:26   chatroom said I agree with the am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   Benjamin so far every criticism that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   John made has been part of what makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   show great oh that's that's part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   though but like that if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   say what's wrong with the show this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   what's wrong with the show like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   things that make the people who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   like the show like it repel other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   that's just the nature of the show can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   gets back tomorrow saying about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45   doing being true to yourself and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   what you're passionate about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   recognizing that maybe that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:52   going to cause millions of people not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   love you right so you know this is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   better to do that than to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   opposite you know you want to have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   but if you concentrate on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   let me just do things that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:01   make the world love me and make this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:02   wildly popular show you will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   happy because you won't be doing what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   is that you want to do and it's a luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   to be able to do this to be able to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   okay this isn't my full-time job like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   just make the show about what I want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   not care that I'm limiting the appeal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   show but those are things that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   know wrong with the show for from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   perspective of most people all right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:24   ready for your cues all right let me see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:28   what I'm where I can start now I some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   these questions I believe may have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:35   Mannix I have a whole list here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   there are some questions here that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   I may have sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   asked you but because this is in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   ways they you know a montage if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:45   retrospective that I would like to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48   perhaps some of them again so one could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:52   have changed right possibly you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:55   think over the castaic may I make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:58   statement I have a prepared state you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   may well I would like to say thanks very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   much to you for doing this show not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:06   for doing it in general but for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:07   100 episodes of it you know we said on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10   the show few episodes back where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   announced it was coming to an end and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   said then you know you you never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   yeah i'll do i'll do a few we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   what happens i'll do a few more we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:20   see what happened and it's been such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   great run it's been so much fun for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   every single episode doing the show with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   you it's it's done so much for me on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   personal level I know it's done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   tremendous amount for the folks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   lived listened in all this time and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:34   it's just been something great to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:37   have on five by five and thanks to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   for doing it and I'm glad you said yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   and anytime you want to come back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   anything ever will be here so thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:48   John so what did the beginning not Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   sleep well most likely kill you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   morning alright so here's the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54   what is a day in the life like for John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   siracusa the irregular guy I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4076">TS</a>]

01:08:00   I don't care about yours I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:01   ask you what your thoughts on techna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:02   where do you think we'll be headed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   2015 with portable computing I whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   cares about that crap that's a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   I want to I want to get to know the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   once again what's a day in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   like as personal as you care to get it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   pretty boring it's let let us be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   judge of that place alright so I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   usually with the alarm because i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:27   wake up before the kids wake up go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:31   and get their breakfast ready and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   wake them up try to give them maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   amount of time in bed because at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36   point they're both sleepy before they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   off to school so appointed by the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40   wake them up their breakfast is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:41   then I have to get both of them down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   eat their breakfast which is not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45   easy to be sometimes that I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   out of bed then they eat their breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   and then I go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:52   and uh my wife comes down because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54   when she showered she prepares to lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   I take my shower I'm out of the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   and then my wife goes off to work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   get them onto the bus they go off onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   the bus I eat my breakfast go into work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   spend all day at work around 5pm leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07   work pick up my kids from school because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   they're both in the same school now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:10   which is convenient uh pick them up get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:15   all their stuff bring them back home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   make a dinner feed them dinner make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:19   they do their homework and their reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:22   and whatever musical instrument practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   or whatever they have ah then get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:28   teeth brushed into bed bath if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:32   bath day and once they go to sleep then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35   my time begins you know about my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   Dan as a parent to special a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   alone time quality alone time no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:43   not so much alone is adult time a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   different from the time I've woken up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   time has not been my time my time has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   been my children's time or you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:50   works time now finally I have time to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:53   something myself usually what that is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   to collapse on the couch and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58   couple television shows then go to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   but you know say if it's a day before a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   show or sometime before a show i'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   show prep and then going to bed or if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   have another podcast to do that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07   go to bed occasionally I will you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:11   doodle around the computer for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   bit but in general I try not to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   the computer and after work I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   to limit the amount of time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:19   computer you know that if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   video game that I'm playing maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:22   would give that game an hour instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   an hour of television and then go to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:25   but I don't play that many games so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   that's that's it that's a typical day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   weekend days are different because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:30   have kids activities that I'm ferrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   them too but it's similar what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   commute like half an hour 45 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:38   with traffic driving in your car use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   plug public transportation driving my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   car listening to podcasts headphones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:46   in the stereo the car if I'm in a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:49   that supports it through the stereo I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   it through stereo if I not I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:52   headphones but you're only allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   have one headphone in legally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   Massachusetts while you're driving I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:57   mean it doesn't it doesn't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   difference it's just people talking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:00   it's not here and I'm missing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   stereo sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:03   two voices as many people were surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06   to find out over the course of doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09   show you you do not write full time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   Ars Technica nope you do not podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   full time I do not you have a job you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:17   are a software developer in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   undisclosed Boston health care company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:22   yep I got a j.o.b job but but what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:26   call course dude shop yep and you are do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:30   you enjoy your work I do for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   part like I've said on past things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   people like you know you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   right for all time for our Tecna would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:37   you like to like is that what you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   want to do and same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   podcasting and I think the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   probably no because like I've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   I've been the professional programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   since I graduated college and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   get tired of that like I'm some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   do programming like I can't take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   anymore like I I don't want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:53   program your ID I like programming I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   like doing it and it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56   apparently i can do for years on end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   without getting bored with it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   it's just always one interesting problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   after another and this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:02   interesting problems to be solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:03   whereas i think if i did podcasting full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   time are writing full-time i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   i would have the sort of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09   endurance it's hard for me to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10   because those two activities are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   like be the extras added onto my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   full-time job so maybe it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   you know I I feel like I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   possibly take being a writer full time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:19   because I just know how exhausting it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:20   writing but I'm doing the writing on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   of my normal you know for the hour-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   job week so but anyway I do enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   program and I do like still doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   like you know at various times at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:30   various jobs I've had different amounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   of management responsibilities managing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   other people and having done a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   bit of that that does not appeal to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:38   as much as just being a programmer does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   right so I maybe I'm limiting my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   possible success in my working life by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   having that opinion but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   what I like doing I like programming if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49   all of a sudden you were wealthy beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   your wildest dreams you had enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54   your family you had enough for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:55   children your children's children and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   there was no more that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   possibly do to get paid to increase that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:03   wealth no matter how hard you worked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:06   what you invest it was just it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:07   it was done would you still work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:10   what would you do I would probably start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:14   a software company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   I had unlimited money what I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19   to do with my free time after spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   tremendous amount of free time doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   the things you'd normally do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:23   getting a new house and buying nice cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:27   and all the other interests that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28   you go sit on the beach or anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   I can't indulge well the new house would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:31   be near a beach open the new cars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:34   know like that Oh as I'm very interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   in cars but they don't have enough money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   to buy fancy ones and I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:39   interested in living by the beach but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:42   can't afford that so I would do all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43   but once I was done with that like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44   would I do with my time in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   you know setting up a really fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:48   entertainment center lots of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:49   computers and all that stuff I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   probably start a software company I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:52   would hire other developers and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:55   myself would be a developer and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:56   write software for the mac for iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:57   stuff like that uh whatever kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:00   software i wanted i wouldn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:01   whether it's old because hey i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   have to worry about money anymore now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:04   basically i would have enough money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   sort of find the best programmers that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   know and pay them lots of money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   create the software applications that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   wish existed in the world maybe i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   get bored of that that's that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:16   that's my go-to plan so G ok so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:21   that's good is that would you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   that's your dream though I mean that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   good thing to have in the fantasy world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   but if that's your dream would you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:28   a dream is there something that you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:29   like my dream is just not to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   work so you know is I'm the team if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:35   could keep the life exactly the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:36   it is now but just know working well see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:40   I'm one of those people like loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   aversion is one of my big motivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43   factors so I'm very conservative you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:46   know it's why I got a j-o-b job right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:47   you know some people have the j-o-b job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   and can't like can't stand it it drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   them nuts it doesn't drive me nuts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   apparently have a high tolerance for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   what drives me nuts is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   uncertainty and not knowing what comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   next so some people like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   entrepreneurial spirit is like where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   you know the fear in danger of being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:05   your own uh is outweighed by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:09   agonizing you find working for the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   all right so like you or marker or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   whatever like that balance flipped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17   you said you know what even though going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18   out on your own too scary and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   lots of work and you know uncertainty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   and everything it's still way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   than what what I'm going through now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   so you see switch over and I've that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   we'll probably never switch for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   only way or whatever it would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:30   switch is if I just didn't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   about anything anymore got unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:33   money or enough money so that just might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   as well be unlimited and then the loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   in the version to lost motivation goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39   away and it's like all right well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:40   don't have to worry about that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:41   so now I can do whatever I want and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   you can try all sorts of risky things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   and that otherwise those same risky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:46   things were I didn't that would drive me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:47   nuts and I would be up all night and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   would be stressing out and pull my hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:50   out and give myself a heart condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:51   and just you know it would not make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   happy to do it in the current situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   but if you could remove all the risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:58   from it then suddenly it's acceptable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   yeah that's since I'm motivated by fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03   of I uncertainty and fear of loss all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   want is for that to be taken away for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   everything to be taken care of and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   only thing I have to worry about is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   you know my health and safety and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14   stuff like that and not to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:15   money anymore like forest gump in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   forest gump movie where he's like ah got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   the email we got the apple stock or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   whatever and he says man told me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   wouldn't have to worry about money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   anymore it's one less thing yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   it's that one less thing is the one main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   thing because you know all security in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   the modern civilized world traces itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   back to money so I'm much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   comfortable having a steady paycheck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   even if it's not a big paycheck you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40   rather than the potential huge upside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   going in on my own because because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   all the associated risk and uncertainty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:46   that comes with that that would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:47   stress me out I'm much more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   in my corporate stooge job ok I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:54   more questions for you get to do our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   last sponsor alright so this is a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58   app if you have kids especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:01   don't have kids but it's kind of geared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02   for you know you have a lot of apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   lit parents who are listeners here John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   I know it if you have kids in your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   you probably have like a gallery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   their our work whether it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:12   drawings that they've done or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   achievements or report cards things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   that up on the fridge eventually though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:18   you run out of room so you want to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20   something down be like wow I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   one or he wanted that one still up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:23   so what do you do you feel guilty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   you take the stuff down well you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   have to do that anymore they there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:28   new iPad app called an infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   refrigerator it's fri was six so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:34   your kitchen refrigerator doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:35   any more space you have one of these in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   a virtual one you tap and drag and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   create a little magnet and your child's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:42   nized refrigerator and use the magnet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   hang a digital photo of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46   accomplishment this is all in the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:47   act very cool you can add a title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   account of the description you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:50   have your kid describing the photo of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   this artwork or whatever it is in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   own voice and unlike your real fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   the infinite refrigerator keeps this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:59   stuff forever you can click on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:00   calendar that's by the little fridge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   you travel through time to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:03   frig look like last week last month last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:05   year you get all those annotations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   it it's really really cool and comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   with that like a blue fridge if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   to unlock other colors you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:13   for a buck 99 but it's free to start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:16   with its it infinite refrigerator dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:19   com go check it out save your kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   don't throw stuff out this is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:24   problem that I didn't think about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   I was apparent but now that I am like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   they produce a tremendous amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   and and it's all good stuff you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:34   want to throw it all out but at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   certain point you're like all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:37   like it's me having a fire hazard we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   have to we have to prune and so you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:42   do the thing where we take pictures I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43   mean I guess that's what this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45   before but you know dedicate that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:46   like you know you weeded out and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   like oh ok well we just kind of throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   stuff out but at least take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:51   that one because it's cute and ya know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   what the thing is you're taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   picture of it sometimes a year after it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:56   was done so then you have to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:57   other way to note what the date of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   thing is everything and we only did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:00   we're pruning so I should check out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01   app to see if it will help ya ah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04   although I wish it were just confined to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   my fridge because my kids stuff is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:07   spreading over the walls of this listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   it's nice but uh yeah dude you have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:13   don't know how much how what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   artistic output of your children at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   point uh the boy will I mean he's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:22   school it seems like they come home with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:23   something I'm almost every day sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   they'll work on something for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   days you know get a little bit of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   but he's he's very into he's in a stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:33   now where he's starting it into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   remote control cars and building things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37   with Legos as we say you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:41   kind of stuff now so the drawing output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   has decreased but the shrinky dink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:46   output has increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:47   so and those all have magnets attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:50   to them so they go up on the fridge also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   shrink eating said my name is what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   can you can they come with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   amount block of magnet yeah after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:57   they've been cooked you can glue it on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   remember shrinky dinks i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   ever did them with my kids I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   they still made him yeah they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:04   quite expensive for the two sheets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:07   you get for 15 bucks but there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   a lot of fun they come with some pencils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   draw it in we're on this we moved from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   the Spongebob as he has matured from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   spongebob to spider-man now so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   spider-man shrinky dinks as a kid it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   my big shrinky dink that I was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   shrinky dink topic area what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:24   think it was in your childhood that set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   you on the path to become a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   developer not a computer guy because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:30   talked about that play on this show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   they'd set you on the path that said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34   would i would like to develop software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   for living and that's my goal and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:37   what makes me happy almost nothing in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40   childhood because like i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:41   exposed to programming for a very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   age like when you when you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   computers quote unquote that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:46   called in the 80s you should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   learn the amp you learn computers right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49   i took my parents maybe take a typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   course because you're gonna have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   how to type so i don't know how old I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   was maybe eight or nine or ten there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   am on the Apple to like supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:58   learning how to type with some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4858">TS</a>]

01:20:59   typing program it didn't take because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:02   I'm a bad student and don't pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:03   attention and again I took typing on IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:06   Selectric electric typewriters in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07   school also didn't take even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   told me the correct way to type by then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   it was too late so I do not type the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:12   right way but that's what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   learning computers was both that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   then the second thing you learned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17   learning computers class besides typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:18   was basic mmm and you know 10 print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:21   hello 20 go to 10 right you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   whole nine yards and so I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   programming since I could use computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   like I'm the vic-20 you could write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:28   basic programs and stuff and when I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   the mac i had the what is it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   microsoft basic 10 whatever one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   basic whichever basic program came with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   the little picture on the box it showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38   showed you how to make a globe out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   bunch of ellipses you know horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41   and vertical ones i'll remember that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:45   yeah it was like you had you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   window drawing window and one window you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48   had to program the other window ya know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:51   I wasn't logo I never did the turtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:52   logo the only time I saw laga was on mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   wizard and I looked at in a cell that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   interesting but and HyperCard I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:58   hyper hyper contacts with writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:00   hyper talk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:01   whole time if you had asked me do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   want to be a computer programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:04   currently I would say no God no I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   that like I was only using as a means to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   an end this you did basic because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09   that's one of the few things you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   with the vic-20 is you can write your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   own little basic program so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:13   read them from magazines and type them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:14   in but I had just a some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:18   terrible mental barrier like if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19   had sat down with me eight years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   explained to me how programming works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22   I'm like oh like you need that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25   get it moment and I did not have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   get at moment you know but lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:28   people have those I get a moment's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:29   with math where you finally understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   algebra then you finally understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   calculus or whatever you know at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   certain point you're just like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35   through the motions but then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36   finally get it you say oh I see I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   what's going ahead then you can go off I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   never got that moment with programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   so I would just sit there banging out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   stuff in you know basic or hyper talk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:46   whatever didn't didn't you know do any C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   or anything like that when I was a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   even in high school we didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:53   programming classes I don't think we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   like a computer class but you just used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:56   computers and you didn't really program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   them so nothing in my childhood made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:00   suspect that I would ever want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02   programming and I didn't even understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:03   program I think I told this story before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:04   when uh I was trying to write myself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:07   text adventure because i was with gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:08   computer gamer from early on i'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09   text adventure you know I know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   basic I feel like I could write a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   adventure you know never realizing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:16   hard just actually write a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:17   adventure but ah I was trying to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:20   my you know so you find yourself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:21   field ball blog directions north south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22   east west and then you know get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   input and then see what it is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   wrote and tell them if they wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   something was incorrectly to incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:28   and then if they wrote something was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:29   correct bring into the next room right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   only I didn't understand what this term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:34   in the mac basic forum gosub meant i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37   no idea what the hell goes up man go go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   into a submarine what the heck does go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   sub me I didn't know what a summer team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   was in nineteen eighty-four like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:44   didn't understand subroutines or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46   functions at all that's what i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48   about not getting it and so I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:50   write myself a text adventure without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51   using go sub and very quickly you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:55   find yourself twenty seven levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   conditionals and go tues deep and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   like oh I don't want to have to repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   all this stuff about uh you know I Drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:02   jump back to the part where it was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   invalid input but then I have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:05   where to jump back to and it was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   didn't understand how you could write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09   successful program because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:10   understand what sub routines were and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:11   today I mean maybe that maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:14   soured being the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:15   programming when I was ten years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:16   that was that was just it but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18   never came and it was never interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   in programming it's only when I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:21   college and I took my first class and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:24   see and they you know they went over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:27   c programming i would talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   pointers but then I was old enough my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   brain could understand it and I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:32   I get what programming is now you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:35   get the whole Turing machine thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:36   you know just understanding variables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   and addresses and and and functions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:42   pointers and just like the whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43   yards but still if you'd asked me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   are you gonna do when you graduate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   I don't know I'm interested in a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:48   of things like I had to computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:49   engineering specifically because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:50   didn't want to take computer science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   because i didn't like programming right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53   I took computer engineering so I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   learn about hardware and stuff so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:56   learned about how you know a transistors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:59   work and how different you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:01   microprocessors work and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:02   and I'm very interested in that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   very interested in like the Pentium and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05   the powerpc and hardware stuff and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   I think that helped my understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:08   software but at a certain point in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   undergraduate life I also learn unix I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   also learned pearl which was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:14   nicer way to get at the U Nork unix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:15   underpinnings because at that point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:16   had been written I'd written tons of C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   programs using like you know raw sockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   calls and see to write my own demon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:21   processes and everything and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   pain in your butt right and then pearls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24   I go I can you know write a demon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:28   listens on sock it's way easier and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   pearl then I can see why would ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   this you think it's practically the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   pearl is like that capi you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   playing with for two months and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38   all these programs you know you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   over here and never get a segmentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:41   fault again right so I did Pearl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:44   there are all these tons and tons huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:45   amount of software output an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   undergraduate where I'm writing little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:48   programs to play games with my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:50   and then writing a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   servers lifts on ports and then the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   came out and I'm writing my own CGI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:55   scripts on my own little experimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   web servers in the whole nine yards by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   the time I graduated I realize I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00   spending all my free time writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   software and so when it came time to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   what are you gonna do for your career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:05   like at that point I was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07   employed part-time as a web developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   and like it you know it was clear to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11   despite all my best efforts that what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   most like to do was write programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:14   because what did I do with my time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   just spent all my time writing programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:17   and so that's what I decided to is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:20   career and I think that was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:21   choice but nothing in my childhood made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   me think that this would ever be what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:24   wanted to do simply because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   didn't understand programming was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   never taught it and never learned it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   think it was i would call myself a late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:34   bloomer in terms of programming and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35   try to think of like in some ways I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:38   it in some ways i like it like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:39   childhood was free from the thing that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41   would eventually do as a profession uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   but on the other hand if i had been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:46   most computer nerds and actually finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   actually gracht programming when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   12 instead of just not totally getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   on those 10 and setting it aside I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:54   have written a lot of programs in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   youth that I didn't terrible programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   but I would ok so here a couple other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5217">TS</a>]

01:27:02   questions that stop laughs can we go a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   little bit more you can ok let me see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:09   which one next all right if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:14   change something about yourself what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:18   would what would you change life span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:21   that's easy answer some people say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:25   don't want to live forever cuz I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:26   it would be boring I'm not one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   people maybe being immortal would be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   much but pretty close to it I'd go I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:32   go basically until the earth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:35   destroyed if you can set my life span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:36   right before I birth becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:37   uninhabitable I'd be happy with that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:40   wouldn't mind seeing all of your loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   ones die I always wonder a shins of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45   loved ones die I would mind it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   that may happen now anyway I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   never know yeah tomorrow will bring you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:50   know but I would be okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52   because I understand that that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53   something that happens you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:54   like you just deactivate your motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56   ship but during that time Turner back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   you know if you have given near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:01   immortality that's that's the price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   I would be willing to pay that price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:04   because I like being alive and healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:07   obviously you don't want to be like live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   and then you know in terrible pain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:09   decrepit right yeah is that nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:13   are you were looking for I I'm happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   with any answer you give me yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18   know usually people ask that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20   they like I wish I was taller I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:21   was more handsome and like most of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23   things a lot of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   people asking about something you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:28   like about yourself that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:30   change I i was saying you're gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:33   you get rid of your RSI or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:34   i suppose if you would live forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   eventually the technology will catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   to that so you cover that lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   RSI is a bit like oh that goes to health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   like Brazil I was going to is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:43   health because despite the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:46   am generally healthy as i get older i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48   get a greater greater appreciation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:50   how important your health is and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:51   appreciate being healthy and how just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   terrible it is it right the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   saying if you don't have your health but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:56   that is that staying will sound stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   to you until you're about 30 something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:00   years old right and that suddenly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:01   will not sound stupid okay and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   will realize how don't you go before to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:06   dismiss that saying right and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:07   what I'm basically asking for because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   all the other things about changing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   your personality or other parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   yourself like that would be changing who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:13   you are hmm and that would that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:16   those like cautionary tales where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   could be you know ten times more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:21   personable and funny would you be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   same person anymore would you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25   you're the same person or it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   Twilight Zone episode but you'd ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:28   something then later on the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:30   episode the person would realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:31   not who they were before and that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:33   be sad for the people watching but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:34   person who was there wouldn't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:35   yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't ask for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:37   too it's too late for me now to be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:40   of those anything that I'm not all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:45   um-hmm okay here's one for you I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:53   know the answer you can meet anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55   alive or dead who would it be that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5395">TS</a>]

01:30:00   the same as the when the fans ask if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   ask one person a question I've gotcha in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   colton but if i can made anyone alive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   dead meet them and and I i will say has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:10   spend a day with him yeah in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   they would they would it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14   like a day and they'd be like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:16   you know i got meetings but like a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17   where you would have quality time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   they would reciprocate your interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:20   would they go back to being dead after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   that word afterwards just like an AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24   know i mean i'm gonna go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:27   obvious answer that you think i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:30   say so i would pick steve jobs i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:32   yeah and the thing is I it the I at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:35   end of that I would expect to be angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   and disappointed but I would have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38   it like that's that's the answer if I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   bring them back to life I'd spend a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:43   talking with them most likely yelling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:44   him because like despite all that I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:48   and know about this person he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:49   fascinating character who I still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   like I don't really really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:54   one of those people where it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   there was a private side of him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:58   even the people who are close to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01   didn't you know maybe his wife and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03   really closest friends were but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   certainly not just random Joe Mackey oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   there's no about so yep that's so epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   oh yeah I wanted I would want him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:12   stay a lot of effort because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:13   want to yell at him about Apple and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   have him go have me convinced him with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   my you know my constant harang bring him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:21   around to my side of thinking and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:22   see that play out in changes to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:25   but it was gonna go back to being dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:26   that kind of put the damper on that okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27   so speaking of being dead and dying if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:31   you were to die and you could come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   as any person or thing what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:37   as any person person or thing you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:42   be a building you'd be a tree Gandhi you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:45   actually can't be a tree or a person no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47   yes in this you could I wouldn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:50   come back as an inanimate object because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   that doesn't like any fun ah I come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:56   as a person yeah I don't I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59   there's any specific person is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:00   problem the people that we all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:01   you're expecting you to name a name that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   the other people what like a I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   wondering if there's like a certain life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   that you would have liked would you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09   to be Evel Knievel or something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:10   have fun so I'm thinking of like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:13   kind of the idea anyone who lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:16   like a city type culture would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   come back as some like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:20   someone who lives who lives in tune with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:22   nature and lives off the land it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   never touched by all the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:25   about civilization and just leaves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:27   happy contented life yeah you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:32   nature and a family in a small community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   I don't know if that still exists on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:35   earth anymore it seems like every person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37   in every society every where somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39   touched in a bad way by modern society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:41   and so maybe it's better to be in uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:44   know so I I would probably have to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   I would just come back as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:47   didn't have to worry about money because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:48   my current concern as a person that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:51   is worrying about you know security and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   lost in whatever and for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   downsides of being rich like her without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:56   money doesn't make you happy and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:58   many bad things that come with money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5578">TS</a>]

01:32:59   you'd have a terrible childhood and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   parents would be all screwed up like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:02   all know the the anti-patterns are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:05   rich we see it in movies you read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:06   it we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:07   life like terrible things can happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:08   rich people but there are also people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:11   who were born rich and die rich and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:12   are perfectly nice well-adjusted happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:15   people so it's hard to say because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:19   you come back to the new person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20   wouldn't have the same hang-ups that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21   have now but assuming I had similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:22   hangups like that's you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:24   always asking for the life that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   different than the one you have now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:27   would I would come back as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   who doesn't have to worry about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:32   things that I'm most concerned about now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:33   so I'd come back as a rich person ok I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:37   have why I have one more question uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:41   I I thought of an extra one then I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:44   it to the chat room and they they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:47   to be slightly in favor of me asking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:50   second to last question and that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:53   know that now you're getting really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:55   interested in comics thanks to Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   you starting to really read not really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:59   I'm still only like partially into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:02   few issues a the first issue of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:05   comics that he sent me ok what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07   superpower would you have in why ah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:13   is very telling we were kind of already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   answered that like is it the Amir Amir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:18   immortality countess I mean I goes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:21   I would go with basically Superman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:22   invulnerability like I wouldn't pick his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   flight it wouldn't take the heat vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   I wouldn't pitch to pick the blowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:27   stuff to freeze it and you know I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29   go with the fact like basically nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:31   can besides kryptonite uh can't hurt him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:35   and presumably that leaves I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:36   the canyons us presumably that leaves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:38   very long life like if he can't if he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:40   involved well I guess he still ages but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:41   he goes from a teenager to an adult he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43   seems to age and he's just kind of hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:44   you hit like a point you hit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:47   maximum handsomeness and you just stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:48   there what about regeneration like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50   Wolverine has like no then you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   keep getting hurt and then it grows back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:53   like Superman is just invulnerable so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   pick and vulnerability basically okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:57   that's that's my superb our choice not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5697">TS</a>]

01:34:59   bad alright here's my last question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:01   alright this is because you know we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:04   a lot of young listeners what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:08   rising as far as I know what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   advice would you like to give to young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   person who's just starting out who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   been listening to this show who says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16   want to be just like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:19   or just advice in general what you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21   impart to your own kids people love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:25   the people who are grown up maybe could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   benefit from what kind of advice do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:28   have for listeners uh for kids I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:31   say don't try to be just like any one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   person because the you know the odds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:36   you being so similar to that person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:39   you would be equally happy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:42   person's life are very slim right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44   there may be aspects of a person or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:48   their life that you admire like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:49   people might say I want to be just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:50   steve jobs but I know enough about Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:53   Jobs to know that I would never want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:54   be just like steve jobs because a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:55   his life was filled with you know misery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57   and pain of his own doing i just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59   said that i would like to come back as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00   rich person but i would assume that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   would be able to handle it Britain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:03   Steve's jobs niggas is his life was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:06   filled with problems personal problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:08   and you know how even just corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10   problems and problems with his job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11   getting kicked out of the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   he founded and you know the whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15   yards so don't don't you know don't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:19   to be like someone that you admire just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:20   to think about the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:22   admire about that person and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:23   harness them to do whatever it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:24   want to do like it's the the end of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:27   hypercritical articled ARS technica i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5787">TS</a>]

01:36:29   have a little parenthetical thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:30   it yeah Steve Jobs always wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:33   make things just so & poor's entire self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:37   into them and make the greatest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:39   ever and I said you know you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5799">TS</a>]

01:36:42   in your everyday life like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44   thing you may admire about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:45   like boy he really cared about making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:46   the imac really awesome or the iPhone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48   whatever anyporn himself into oh you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:50   do that with anything so you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:52   that i am the Steve Jobs of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:53   sandwich I'm going to make I am the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55   person solely in charge of the sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   and it's going to be insanely great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:58   right just for making the sandwich for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:01   yourself right you know I writ small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:04   then larger is if you are totally into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:06   making horse paintings make the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:08   insanely great horse paintings that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   could possibly ever mentioned it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:11   you being like steve jobs because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5831">TS</a>]

01:37:13   wasn't into horse painting at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:14   maybe the things you need to do awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:17   hort paint horse paintings are totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18   different than ah the things you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:21   run a successful tech company but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:23   know pick the things that you at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:25   aspects of the people that you admire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:27   and apply them to whether it is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29   actually want to do so whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:30   that you admire about me or the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:33   or whatever decide how any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:34   things can be applied to your life to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:36   make what you want to do better don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38   try to do the same things that I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:39   do the things that you want to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   don't think it I would say do know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:44   people should not model their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46   lives after me cuz my life is pretty I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:49   think it's more aspirational for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:50   to mother lives after you or Marco or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:52   someone like that where that mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:54   very least that's more know like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:57   Hollywood more like people aspire to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5877">TS</a>]

01:38:00   the amazing thing they don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:01   they can do like go off on their own not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03   have a boss do their own thing uh I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:06   I I admire that as well I just know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:09   just true to myself and understand like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:11   that I would not be happy doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:12   despite how how attractive it is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   abstract so I guess it's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17   lesson is separate what you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:19   admirable from what you would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   enjoy doing because you may you may find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:23   the destination to be awesome like so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25   want to be like Marco and like beemo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27   Boston have a hit iOS product but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:30   you don't like what you have to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   get to that point right you know talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:34   eight thousand other iOS developers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   see how they're doing it and just talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:37   to Marco about like what he did to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39   there and what what the work entails on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   a day to day basis and maybe that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43   what you like maybe you just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:44   destination and not the journey I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:47   know I'm probably babbling at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:48   so I don't know I don't have any I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:51   have any good solid advice for young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53   listeners listen to me except for to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55   try to emulate any other specific person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:59   and just you know think about analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:02   the things you admire about them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:03   find the ones that are applicable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05   your life and then go with that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:10   good answer that's all all my questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:12   man we did a damn 100 episodes hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:15   episodes didn't think we'd make it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:18   we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:20   oh I knew we'd make that's it that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:25   we're done we are done so you can uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:30   can follow John on Twitter siracusa s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:34   IRA see you SI nosy and i can follow me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:40   on twitter i'm dan benjamin you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:41   follow the hypercritical account on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43   Twitter and you have a website you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:46   a blog that you are writing that what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:48   the URL for that that's hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:50   dot co-vary because i couldn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:54   who cares i ce o--'s betterment someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5994">TS</a>]

01:39:56   I may have a dot-com Patil just redirect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:58   so don't worry about less typing and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/5998">TS</a>]

01:40:01   can you can still follow up if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   with us by going to the contact form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   five by five let t be such contacts line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   and on that page you can pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:09   hypercritical i won't take that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:10   that'll stick around say what they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:13   still you can still email john he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:14   have no forum like this to respond but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:17   who knows he you may reply but you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:19   you're gonna read every email right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:21   will I always read every email I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23   reply by email I'm a this not having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:27   podcast to complain about things may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29   motivate me to blog or maybe it won't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:31   don't know we'll see but yeah keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33   following the hypocritical account and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:34   if I do anything else you'll see it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmKm5WQ/6034">TS</a>]

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