Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► no no don't let that happen this is [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► hypercritical a talk show ruminating on [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► exactly what is wrong in the world of [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► Apple and related technologies and [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► businesses nothing is so perfect that it [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► can't be complained about by my friend [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► and yours John Siracusa I am Dan [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► Benjamin today is Friday December 24 [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► 2012 this is our 99th second last [TS]

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00:00:54 ◼   ► 5 by 5 do you have any opening opening [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► statements about the t-shirt before we [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► begin show proper ah yes that's right we [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► do have an update here about the t-shirt [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► so if you remember last week on episode [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► number 98 we did a we did a poll [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► hypercritical t-shirt poll and I'm going [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► to go in and close the poll right now [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► but we have results from this poll we [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► asked the listeners on the show we said [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► what what kind of t-shirt would you want [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► would you want a t-shirt for [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► hypercritical that excuse me that has [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► just the word or you know the stylized [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► text hypercritical on it that was one [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► choice another choice was it could it [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► could just it could have the there are [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► many things wrong with this shirt text [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► and your avatar on it and then the final [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► choice was your avatar with hyper the [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► word just hyper the word hypercritical [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► on it we had 3330 votes and I am now I'm [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► now turning it off it is [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► off now though a voting is closed of [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► those 3330 votes 1661 voted for just [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► hypercritical that's forty nine point [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► eighty eight percent thirteen hundred [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► and fifteen voted for the Siracusa [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► avatar plus there are many things wrong [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► with the shirt at 39.4 nine percent and [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► closing it out 10.6 three percent voted [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► for siracusa avatar plus the word [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► hypercritical 354 votes there so the [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► clear winner as you I believe you [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► predicted and we we both thought would [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► happen just hypercritical far and away [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► the winner so if it again you you get [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► final choice here but that sounds like [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► what's going to happen that sounds like [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► the the winner that sounds like where [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► we're going with this yeah unless you're [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► gonna make two shirts there you know the [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► one to pick and that people have pointed [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► out that it's not a majority it was only [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► you know forty-nine percent and then [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► other people who were who didn't want [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► just that shirt said well if you combine [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► the other two items it makes a larger [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► percentage than the 49 so that shows [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► that people at least one and avatar [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► because the other two items have an [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► avatar in the one that one doesn't but [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► that doesn't make any sense because if [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► you combine the first and third choices [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► you can say see people want the word [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► hypercritical and it and that [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► combination becomes the majority so [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► anyway we're not gonna have 18 polls and [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► runoff elections or whatever it seems [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► like if you wanted to get everybody you [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► can make the top two shirts but if you [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► want to get the most people and just [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► make one shirt it's got to be the one [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► that got the most votes right so there [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► you have it so the one with the most [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► votes wins yep and we will produce this [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► shirt we need to figure out a color [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► that's a inconsequential me and a font I [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► mean like I don't know if they can [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► exactly match the night course I can we [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► will create the art so I mean like the [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► color the color of the shirt itself not [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► the thought on it like you know like the [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► because the what he called the cover art [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► for the show what would you call that [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► yeah whatever color green that is like [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► that with white text on it seems like it [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► would look good or whatever but yeah [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► just you know once you have some design [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► to send it my way and I will give it a [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► thumbs up or thumbs down [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► but there's not much room for variation [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► and what we're going to do in the past [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the last time that I did that I did [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► shirts I did a run of five by five [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► shirts and in addition we did the back [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► to work the back to work that's fine for [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► Merlin shirt but logistically figuring [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► out and separating out because I you [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► know you you will you will get profits [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► from the shirt you're gonna you stand to [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► make some money here you might you might [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► even know they might even be able to [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► quit your job but these shirts you will [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► profit from them so it was it was a [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► logistical nightmare to separate the two [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► different shirts because just the way [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► the systems are set up and splitting it [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► out so these are just going to be doing [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► hypercritical shirts and Hattie and I [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► will be packaging the shirts ourselves [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► there you go by hand you're gonna put [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► like a mint into each one a mint maybe a [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► sticker for some people like if we know [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► who you are if we recognize your name [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► from the chat room or something maybe [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► you get a sticker I'm just saying all [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► right that's it shirt up date pull [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► closed ok and i hope by everyone i hope [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► everyone who answered the poll buys a [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► shirt it's the dangers that people [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► really want to vote in a poll but don't [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► want to buy a shirt obviously i don't [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► expect the people who voted for the [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► other shirts to buy the shirt that they [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► didn't vote for but surely the people [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► who voted for this shirt now that [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► they're going to get it i hope they buy [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► it I do too yeah alright some follow up [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► a little bit before we begin our wii u [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► topic for the day first come most common [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► piece of fall from last week is everyone [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► lunch tell me about command l in itunes [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► which brings you to the currently [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► playing track I last week we're talking [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► about iTunes 11 the point I was trying [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► and apparently failing to make was about [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► hidden state and making the UI simpler [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► than the functionality of the app so let [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► me give you one more brief try here i [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► think i think i've got this time to [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► clarify what it is I'm talking about ah [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► it's just one play pause stop button [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► like the big circle button and on iTunes [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► the old version and like the center [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► button on the new version there's just [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► one of those [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► buttons right when you select a track in [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► the interface that button may or may not [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► apply to the thing you just selected [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► depending on one of those pieces of [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► hidden state so the functionality of the [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► app is more complicated it should really [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► have not i'm saying it should have more [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► than one button but they there's it [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► there's just one button but there's more [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► than one thing it could possibly apply [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► to and so and it depends on this thing [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► that you can't see so internally it has [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► to ask okay all right so you selected a [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► track does that big button apply to the [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► track you just select it but first ask [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► to ask is a track currently playing if [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► the answer to that question is yes it [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► says is the track you selected the one [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► that's currently playing if the answer [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► to that is yes then make it a pause [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► button and have it apply to the to the [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► track that you just select it if the [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► answer is no then how'd it be a stop [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► button and have it applied to the track [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► it's not the one that you selected but [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► rather the track that's currently [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► playing and backing out one letter C I [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► wish I have curly braces in the show or [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► you know begin end or whatever the Ruby [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► people like in 15 I lanius curlies there [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► yeah if there's not a currently playing [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► track then it's a play button and it [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► does apply to the track you've selected [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► this is like three level nesting of [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► logic just to explain when i click a [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► track what does that button apply to and [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► what does it do so it does different [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► things and it applies to different [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► things all depending on this piece of [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► hidden state information internal this [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► in this internal logic of the [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► application would it be more or less [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► confusing to have multiple buttons maybe [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► it would be more confusing I'm not [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► proposing a solution to this problem [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► just saying the way it's set up is the [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► user interface tries to provide this [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► very simple thing like they don't want [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► you to have tons of controls in seven [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► different windows and five different [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► things to look at but then you're just [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► pushing the complexity on to the user to [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► understand uh-oh when I select this [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► track what is that middle button going [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► to do and if you don't think about you [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► just reach for you let go accidentally [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► hit stops and I've lost my playback [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► position and I didn't do what I wanted [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► to do and it really should have applied [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► to that thing so it's not so much about [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► finding the be currently playing track [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► it's about the fact that when you click [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► on something that button may or may not [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► apply to the thing that you clicked on [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► which is not you know a simple interface [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► would be like you click on a thing and [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► then you click one of [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► button somewhere else that applies to [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► the thing and that's not really the case [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► in itunes so and command l i would say [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► as a symptom of this because it's like [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► well we know that we have this multiple [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► state thing so we want people to be able [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► to quickly go back and do something to [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► this track that's playing so that you [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► know because if you go back and pause [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► the track that's playing then when you [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► go to a different place now when you [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► selected the middle button will apply to [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► the track this plane because you can [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► start playing the new one because you [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► pause the old one but if you haven't [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► balls the old one the button stops the [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► old one de yucky so that's what I was [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► trying to get up not so much that the [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► iTunes makes it too hard to find the [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► currently playing track but that itunes [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► even requires you at all to find they're [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► currently playing track because of this [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► mismatch between what the application [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► can do and the simplified interface that [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► they want to present to you and related [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► to iTunes 11 many people wanted to point [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► out that my guest for when iTunes 11 [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► might have been released with November [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► 31st which is not a day hmm yeah I I do [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► not know how many days are in months [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► period the end I want to try to learn on [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► your knuckles or what it on the knuckles [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► yeah i know the knuckle thing but i [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► forgot the knuckle think so right forget [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► but this reminds me of you know because [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► i don't know these things because dates [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► are annoying anyone who's been a [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► programmer for a while so annoyed by [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► dates I remember maybe I told the story [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► already but i think it was in formics [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► the IBM on database yeah a is no not and [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► then in denen did that was the follow up [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► to it right Oh ax is an operating system [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► in formics is like their crappy version [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► of oracle likes primary database really [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► old i forget what its origins were so [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► it's gonna be X I'm sure it did that's [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► what I used on I think I mean I'm Watson [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► trading lots of date things that lots of [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► databases have date functions and then [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► because you don't want to do date [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► Matthew want to be able to do you know [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► select date created plus one day from [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► orders because you don't want to figure [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► out what you know the date plus one day [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► as you want the database there was got [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► some manipulation libraries it knows [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► that it's a state store internally suici [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► select date plus one day there's [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► something some sort of syntax that [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► expresses that and informix provided [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► these functions where you could add and [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► subtract units you just say one day one [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► year one week one month or whatever I [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► don't know if you could do month but [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► that's a whole weekend worms but but [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► certainly days you could [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► created plus one day the problem was [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► that if the date created was April [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► thirtieth informix would gladly add one [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► day to it and come up with April 31st [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► and then it would immediately explode [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► because April 31st isn't a date so I was [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► the worst of all possible was like why [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► even provide a date library if you're [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► not gonna do actual date math and then [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► when you do the date math wrong you the [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► whole query blows up and you if your [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► throws an exception so that was [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► maddening anyway that's why I date [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► manipulation library should exist and [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► maybe I should have used one in my brain [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► when I guessed what day iTunes 11 was [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► released but alas all right a couple [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► more pieces here we speculated about the [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► order of authors on academic [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► publications briefly when discussing a [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► paper about changing programs at runtime [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► and Kieran Healy was the first to [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► provide a nice link for this that I put [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► in the show notes it's an answer on the [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► academia stack exchange that talks about [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► the water authors and publications and [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► the short answer is it depends of course [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► it depends so you can read the answer [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► for the longer version and academics can [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► all debate each other about what is the [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► correct method but it really just [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► depends um all right one more thing last [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► show I talked about those glasses that [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► invert your vision yeah you said these [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► are the things where if you put you put [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► on these glasses and inverts your vision [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► in the new saying that your brain will [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► adjust to having your vision upside down [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► and they you'll be able to function [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► after short period of time in that way [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► yeah I don't remember that topic came up [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► but anyway uh Gordon Shepherd wrote in [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► to burst my bubble that apparently this [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► was a scientific study that was done but [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► it was done in 1897 by George Stratton [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► and it was called vision without an [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► inversion of the retinal image and he [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► wrote about it experience with the [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► glasses and said after a while it seemed [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► right side up to him and everything [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► which is all well and good except that [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► you know scientists have tried to [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► reproduce that study and none of them [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► have been able to reproduce it everyone [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► who tries in the most recent was in 1999 [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► said eventually you get used to it being [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► upside down but it never looks right [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► side up to you so this is one of those [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► things that is too good to be true it [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► seems like and although this experiment [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► did exist and get spattered it around [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► and kind of an urban legend type of [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► thing if people can't reproduce it then [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► you have [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► George Stratton was talking out his butt [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► in 1897 so bummer there I like the idea [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► that it would eventually look right side [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► up they did say that you know that they [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► do things where they have glasses that [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► distort your vision by making it look [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► like a funhouse mirror or whatever and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► your brain does eventually make that [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► look normal total inversion it doesn't [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► it doesn't account for oh so oh well oh [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► god I thought it was only a little bit [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► of follow-up I guess has two more semi [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► big things right the first one is I [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► tried to find it back to work episode of [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► this refers to but I couldn't because it [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► was just a minor one off point do you [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► remember the episode when you're talking [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► to Merlin and he mentioned that he was [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► he said I'm gonna learn the terminal dan [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► I'm gonna learn it it was it was [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► dedicating himself to trying to learn [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► wasn't just a relatively recent episode [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► though yeah it was like one or two [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► episodes ago but I couldn't find a buddy [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► but he was saying that he wanted to [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► learn more about that part of the system [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► who knows if he's actually going to do [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► it but anyway when I heard that like so [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► I know what he means when he says and I [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► hear this low I'm gonna learn the [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► terminal learning the terminal in Mac OS [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► 10 we all know what that's community is [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► shorthand and and it's clear that the [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► idea has been communicated I've talked [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► in the past that you know writing and [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► speaking of rubber regardless of what [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► you're saying that the main point is [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► that you're supposed to be communicating [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► something IQ successfully communicate [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► that idea then it doesn't really matter [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► so much about how you said it like [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► that's the details it's better to be [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► successful at communication but not be [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► strictly correct or formal or whatever [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► then the reverse of being correct and [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► formal but then you don't communicate [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► your idea but unfortunately what's also [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► being communicated when you say you want [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► to learn the terminal is the idea that [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► the terminal application is where all [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► the stuff that you're want to learn [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► resides like that if you deleted [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► terminal app from your Applications [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► folder that all that stuff is gone uh [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► and I I'm sure Marilyn didn't mean that [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► because he probably knows that's not the [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► case but i think that additional piece [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► of communication that you're [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► accidentally sending along by saying [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► learning the terminal is bad and it [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► ended grates on me and so my advice to [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► merlin and others is don't say learn the [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► terminal because if you really want to [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► learn all the stuff that the terminal [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► provides you access to you can start by [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► being clearer about communicating what [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► it is that you're actually learning and [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► learn [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► the words in the vocabulary and [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► everything because i think you know part [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► of the the entry point to learning the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► unix velocity Munich's is learning what [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► unix actually is and how it manifests [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► itself and the terminal application is [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► very very far from that that is merely [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► you know a window into that world it's [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► an application that simulates a [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► character-based input and output device [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► remove that application all that stuff [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► is still there you haven't removed any [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► of the eunuch stuff it's yeah so that [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► that is like step zero in understanding [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► unix is that it's not inside the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► terminal application so don't say [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► learning determine that's my advice for [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► the day oh one more final piece of [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► follow-up here I think before we get to [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► the Wii U which may be long um so Gruber [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► did an article this week called a [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► dropbox colon the linchpin where he [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► cites an article by warren ellis who [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► describes how he uses his ipad to write [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► and uh Gruber says that it's good that [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► people like to use their iPads to get [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► work done but the scary part is a [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► recurrent theme that he sees whenever he [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► sees someone's story about how they use [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► the iPad is that the dropbox is the [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► linchpin of the workflow like they [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► couldn't get any work done if they [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► didn't have grok box and Gruber says [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► it's scary because drop box outside [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► apples control and if not for dropbox a [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► lot of these people wouldn't even [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► consider using the ipad to work with and [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► it's scary because Apple's iCloud fall [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► short iCloud falls short of short of [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► Dropbox ah I think I mean my experience [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► echoes if you see someone who uses an [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► ipad I know in my own iPad usage Dropbox [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► is a key part of getting stuff done and [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► if you took away Dropbox from those [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► people like I mean I guess we'd come up [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► with something else that sort of works [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► but you know I cloud does not work the [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► way a lot of people want file management [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► to work and I would think would make a [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► lot of people said so Gruber concludes [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► by saying long time readers know that I [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► seldom opine that Apple should acquire [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► other companies but Apple should buy [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► Dropbox right now the second piece of [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► this is Michael psy whose blogs also [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► gradient should read if you don't he [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► cites Gruber's article and quotes that [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► he says [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► Gruber says that opposite by Dropbox [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► this might be a good move for Apple but [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► I doubted we would be good for dropbox [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► users and what I thought when I read [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► this I guess its third level commentary [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► because Gruber's comments hannah warren [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► ellis and sighs commenting on Gruber's [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► commenting and one else is it this is [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► how you can tell that Apple is still no [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► good at network services and that Apple [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► doesn't really understand them when the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► prospect of Apple buying a popular well [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► implemented network servers causes [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► people to fear for that service that's [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► how you can tell that Apple still is not [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► I mean as you can say all you want I was [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► pretty good and apples not as bad as [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► people think or whatever but if you [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► throw out there hey there's a popular [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► service meeting apples buying it [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► everybody goes no no don't let that [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► happen until until that changes that's a [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► bad sign for Apple because we say oh [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► they'll just screw it up or they'll just [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► make it Apple only and that's what [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► another way that Apple doesn't get it it [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► network service is made much less [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► valuable when you can only use it with [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► one brand of device and so nobody wants [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► helpful to my dropbox feels like don't [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► put apple anywhere near my dropbox that [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► they're gonna make a mac only your iOS [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► only remove the web interface or just [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► screw it up in some way and that is the [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► most telling thing i think of about when [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► we stop having that opinion we will know [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► that apple has truly turned a corner on [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► network services and Google understands [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► this philosophy like you know for all [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► the things you may hate about Google [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► they understand this philosophy of like [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► you know when they buy a company they [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► may destroy it and ruin all the good [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► things about it but they don't like [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► confine it just Android like you know [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► Apple maps is on iOS right they want you [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► to be able to get to your gmail from [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► anywhere than not saying okay well we [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► can provide the best integration if we [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► only allow you access gmail from Android [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► devices now that's not how how it works [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► they understand the value of network [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► services they got to be available [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► everywhere work everywhere all that [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► stuff so ah that's something to watch [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► for in the coming years then the next [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► time you know Apple is going to buy some [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► popular network service look at people's [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► reactions and see if the fans that [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► service say no don't let Apple by me [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► it's kind of trying to think of an [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► example like we used to be afraid that [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► Microsoft would buy a company that we [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► liked because that would sort of crush [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► it and it's kind of the same way we're [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► afraid that Google's ever going to buy [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► like a software company that makes [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► applications like we didn't want Google [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► to buy Sparrow because you know they [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► kill it off [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► alright so this is the reverse that we [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► do so we don't want Google to buy like [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► native applications companies and we [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► don't want Apple to buy network service [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► companies what if they just owned a [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► portion of it a portion of what of the [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► company what if they just had some money [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► they were just in that in that way [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► because i feel like if they owe them [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► let's say they own a minority stake in [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► it but they still in a stake in it [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► because i think i think even though we [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► know Dropbox is doing really well like [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► there's always that fear that it could [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► go away and somehow having like a [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► significant apple investment in it would [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► make me feel really good like well [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► that's never going away now you know for [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► a while there was nothing for Apple [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► really to buy with Dropbox it was only [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► once native applications started [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► integrating Dropbox into them like using [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► the dropbox api for one within their [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► applications that's when Apple really [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► are now you have something because Apple [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► could have made what Dropbox made on its [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► own like technically speaking you know [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► in Firefox start as a bunch of Python [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► scripts and on Apple's got good [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► developers they could have made exactly [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► what Dropbox is they didn't though they [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► didn't want to make that they wanted to [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► make something different but at any [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► point until Dropbox starting getting [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► integrated into all these apps Apple [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► could have said okay well you know this [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► iCloud document container thing is not [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► working out let's just make Dropbox they [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► just don't want to do that and I'm it [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► makes me wonder why it you know the [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► rumor is that Apple tried to buy Dropbox [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► why just to eliminate a competitor [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► because you could have made something [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► just like back when Apple was supposedly [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► bidding for dropbox there's no reason [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► that Apple couldn't have uh just made [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► that themselves Brian that makes me [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► think the only reason they wanted to buy [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► it was just to get it again remove that [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► distraction from the screen so now [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► everybody let's all just concentrate on [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► iCloud document containers and don't be [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► distracted by the drop box but now it's [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► too late like applications are written [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► against Dropbox and have apple bought [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► they would have to continue to support [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► the API for at least some period of time [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► and if they killed that people would [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► hate them and it's just it's too late [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► for that to happen like Apple buying or [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► investing in dropbox doesn't that you [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► know Apple benefits now Apple is [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► benefiting now from a healthy [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► independent thriving Dropbox even if it [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► is like a thorn in the side of their [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► supposed one true way to do document [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► management that we all hate huh so I [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► don't know I don't know how this comes [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► but there yeah at the time the time to [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► strike is fast in anyway apparently [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► Dropbox didn't want to sell because I [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► supposedly they had bid [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► a lot of different people and didn't [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► take any of them yeah they have not they [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► have no interest in selling and I don't [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► know what their I mean the one interview [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► that I recall reading with them is that [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► they didn't they don't want to sell the [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► simple reason that they want to build a [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► big business i remember being that being [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► one of the quotes is that they were [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► saying their goal is to be a big [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► business they want to have a cool office [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► they won't have lots of employees they [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► want to do amazing things and they don't [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► see an exit through acquisition as a [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► path to that and that makes sense and [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► guess what there they've got a great [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► service I my opinion they're like the [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► number one service out there for this [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► and I don't yeah but don't you think [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► their service has like a date stamp on [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► it like it's got an expiration date can [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► you tell me what do you mean like you [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► think of think of a company like Dropbox [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► in the 80s or something I don't know [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► maybe you'd have to be like some company [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► that sold like this defragmenting [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► software okay for das or something and [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► it's like we sell the best disk defrag [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► trading software and we don't want to [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► sell to anyone else because weird like [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► and people say oh you just got one [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► product but like but no just everybody [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► uses our product you really need to [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► defrag your desk and eventually [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► defragging your desk isn't something [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► that regular people do anymore and like [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► that that business that map application [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► has expired that business of selling [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► that one application it's no longer [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► relevant like it didn't become bed [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► didn't get beat by competitors Justin [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► own cameras about that anymore and in [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► theory what Dropbox does dealing with [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► network-based files in a folder like if [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► Apple had its fantasy way and said we [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► have a better way to do files and will [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► convince the whole world and eventually [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► it will seem barbaric that we ever [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► manually dealt files and folders then [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► drop box you know through no fault of [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► their own except sticking with their one [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► product for too long like then its just [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► oh well so much for that makes just fade [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► away and I feel like a one product [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► business like Dropbox seems to be has an [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► expiration date on it may be a long [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► expiration data may be an expiration [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► date after the entire current management [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► is retired or dead but it exists versus [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► like I want to build it becoming like [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► Apple where in you know 30 years it will [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► be doing things unimaginative at the [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► time the company was founded uh you know [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► basically Dropbox needs to show that it [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► is more than I mean when your company is [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► named after your one product like where [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► can you go from there I don't know like [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► I'm not saying Dropbox needs to start [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► making like a social networking tool [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► with a [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► image filters all I have it recently out [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► of that camera crap but I know I work I [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► think Dropbox does have an expiration [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► date none I just don't know what that [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► date is it's not next year but it's [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► there that's it for the follow-up but ok [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► first sponsor yeah hover com simplified [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► domain management it's my register I've [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► choice was before they became a sponsor [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► because I really like how simple they [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► make everything started talking to him [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► and they said oh well you know we want [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► to sponsor some your stuff this is a you [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► know I don't six months ago maybe it's [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► more than that actually and I said well [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► would be great because i use you guys [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► what i like about them and what I think [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► you guys will like about them you know [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► what it's the thing John it's really [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► easy because people like us we register [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► domain names all the time and you figure [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► you know try something new will try [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► something a little different will try [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► something new once in a while see how it [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► works just one domain name then you'll [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► find you like them so much you want to [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► switch everything over there and they [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► make that really easy because they I [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► just saw somebody tweeted me about this [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► that make it really easy to do that [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► because they have this domain name [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► transfer valet service I mean there's [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► simple service that they offer is as [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► simple as it could possibly be they [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► don't upsell you on stuff they give you [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► free who is privacy and then if you want [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► they will handle the entire domain name [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► transfer process for you for you like [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► everything they'll do everything they [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► don't even charge for it you just want [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► to register commnet whatever you can [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► just go and do that or you can do more [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► stuff like DNS management which is built [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► in they have add-on which email hosting [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► and more and you can use the code dan [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► sent me you get ten percent off [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► everything that you buy Hakam / dan sent [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► me supports the show it supports five by [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► five and it gives you ten percent off or [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► you can just enter in the code dance at [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► me when you're checking out like if [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► you're already customer so go check them [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► out hover com / dan sent me people in [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► chat room a complain there was only 20 [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► minutes of follow-up don't worry guys [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► the wii u might take a while and then [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► after the wii u if we have any time left [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► dan can ask us questions well I have [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► some questions there you go so I think [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► it'll be fine all right [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► today's topic today's one and only topic [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► the wii u hopefully provided by Dan now [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► thoroughly play tested by myself and the [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► rest of my family very cool what overall [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► overall impressions thumbs up thumbs [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► down let's start with that we end with [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► the overall impressions you can end with [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► the conclusion yeah but and there's a [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► lot of people who want you know they [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► want to read that last thing first and [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► then diamond yeah I don't know if I can [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► give it a thumbs up or thumbs down see [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► before i got this thing I really you [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► know like I'm thinking about what I'm [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► going to talk about on the show when I [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► talk about it I really did not think [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► that I would spend much time or perhaps [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► any time talking about the setup process [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► of the console but in fact that is what [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► I'm going to do now the first part of [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► this hmm surprisingly the setup process [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► itself was a significant part of my [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► experience for this device and not in a [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► good way ah alright so i think i have a [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► lot of advantages when it comes to [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► setting up electronics you know i'm i'm [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► electronic guy i'm a computer guy i have [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► a basic understanding of networking if [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► somebody I can't figure out I know how [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► to use Google I good that's all that's [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► already like a big leg up on most people [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► aren't you when you get a bite [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► electronics device don't you sometimes [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► think man uh I can set this up but if I [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► just threw this to some random person [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► who doesn't know anything about [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► computers they would struggle yeah then [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► nothing calls record yeah they can never [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► get it right i mean maybe that's being [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► unfair to the murder but basically what [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► I'm saying is I feel like I'm not a [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► dummy here like I know I know what I'm [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► doing I have many many advantages when [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► it comes to setting up devices i also [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► have a couple of disadvantaged just when [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► it comes to setting of devices and other [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► people might not have first is I have a [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► lot of electronic devices which means my [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► setup is extremely complex I don't have [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► just one flat screen TV and then this is [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► the first thing I'm connecting to it [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► right uh and the other one the big one [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► that gets me a lot is my network is [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► locked down a much more than most [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► people's maybe foolishly maybe I'm doing [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► this for no reason I shouldn't but you [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► know like most nerds like well okay I [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► gotta turn on the SuperDuper Wi-Fi [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► security and all the other stuff and so [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► these two things combined I think it [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► should be a wash most of the time like [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► I'm good at setting stuff up but i have [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► i'm making things harder for [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► myself because of you know the way I've [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► had everything set up here and the [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► complexity of my setup so it should be [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► it should you know even now but the the [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► wii u setup process conspired to push [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► things over into the negative a little [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► bit more despite my supposed advantages [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► uh and the first thing is this happens [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► not just in the wii u bahn a lot of [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► devices uh most things that you can buy [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► the do network in these days prefer to [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► use Wi-Fi for networking sometimes they [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► only have Wi-Fi for networking like your [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► you rarely see ethernet ports on things [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► well a lot of things come with Wi-Fi [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► because who has ethernet cables running [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► to the back of their TV you know except [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► for me right but most people don't know [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► don't have a gigabit switch sitting in [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► their entertainment center right so they [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► use Wi-Fi for everything and that makes [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► perfect sense and people like Wi-Fi it's [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► like magic you just plug in your blu-ray [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► player and it can magically see Netflix [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► right and you didn't you know just it [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► just worked and they work hard to make [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► that just work and most you know most [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► isp's routers include Wi-Fi remember [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► when they start doing that i'm like wow [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► that's gonna means everyone's house [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► people just assume you have Wi-Fi like [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► if you have an isp you know comcast or [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► verizon where everyone just assumes you [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► also have Wi-Fi in your house because [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► the routers they give you a little [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► antennas on okay gifted way to disable [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► that yeah if you don't want it like so [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► ever that's why all these things come [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► with things you know one has cables [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► ethernet cables running all over the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► house and Wi-Fi just you know it's user [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► friendly technology but what that means [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► is it during the setup process most [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► electronic devices want to get on the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► network and a lot of them want to get on [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► the network early in the setup process [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► like not like at the end because they [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► didn't work at all if you don't get on [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► the network and my problem when it comes [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► to all these wireless devices is that i [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► do mac address restriction on my [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► wireless network maybe I'm crazy do you [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► do this stand at your home I too much [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► much more diligently I have stopped [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► doing it just because the hassle of it [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► just think is the hassle yeah now like I [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► think every time I run into this think [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► like why am i bothering to do mac [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► address restriction you know cuz it's [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► not like it's one of the security things [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► like look if someone can crack my wpa [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► two keys or just even just sniffing [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► stuff going on they can see the mac [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► address as i'm assuming they can see the [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► mac address is flying through the [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► wireless error on my house and they can [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► just take one of them and spoof that mac [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► address but my hope still like the [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► reason it or enable it is like okay so [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► fine they can eventually crack the [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► security and see the mac address and [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► they can just say okay I'll going to [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► make that my mac address I'm assuming if [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► they did that it wouldn't be a good [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► experience for them because I have a [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► device on the network with the same mac [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► address and if you have two devices the [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► network could say mac address both of [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► them are going to get screwed up so the [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► only thing it would be good for is sort [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► of a denial of service attack on [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► whatever a device that they steal the [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► mac address so they wouldn't have a good [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► experience using my network by spoofing [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► a mac address that's also being used by [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► an active device on the network so [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► that's why I keep it there I think it [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► actually is I think it actually is a a [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► reasonable way to keep people from [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► stealing my wife I basically because [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► just because they can grab my mac [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► address and use it does not mean that [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► they can successfully use my network it [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► will be very frustrating for them and [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► then we'll stop it you know it would be [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► easier for you so I think mac address [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► restrictions are still worthwhile maybe [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► maybe not that I'm gonna have a lot of [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► fall upon the on the next and final [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► episode but if someone has some concrete [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► reason why mac address restrictions just [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► does not help at all I will consider a [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► disabling but the point is right now I [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► have enable and most the time it's not [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► that bad because how many times the new [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► devices coming to the house right you [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► don't have to deal with that much but [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► anyway when I get to that step in any [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► setup process where it says okay now [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► it's time for you to get on the network [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► I need to know the mac address so I can [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► go to my little thing and add you know [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► add the mac address for the dua so on [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► ahead uh and i have yet to see a single [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► device that asks for net access really [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► early like before the rest of the system [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► is set up and you can't get out of it [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► like you know it stops you you know you [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► can't go to the main menu I've yet to [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► see a device that does that and tells [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► you or gives you a way to find the mac [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► address and i don't understand why they [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► wouldn't do this like all you gotta do [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► is give me some way to get to a menu [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► where i can see the mac address or just [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► put it right there on the screen or have [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► a button with a little eye on it [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► something that lets me see the mac [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► address otherwise i'm stuck now i'm sure [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► there are devices out there that do this [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► just I haven't run across any of them [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► and to be fair maybe some devices I have [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► do do this but if they have an ethernet [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► port adorning bother with the wireless i [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► just plug in ethernet so maybe I never [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► see that process and the wii u [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► supposedly has a USB Ethernet adapter [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► but I don't have one I don't have one [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► yet maybe I do have one but anyway there [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► I am in any DS devices including me you [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► stuck at this step cannot proceed with [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► this setup process because it's [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► I need to get on the network and I can't [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► get you in the number because I don't [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► know what your mac addresses uh so you [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► know worst-case well if I can't continue [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► at all what I have to do is just go turn [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► off mac address restriction on my [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► network and because Apple stupid routers [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► offer and require you to reboot every [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► time you change any kind of setting than [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► a knock everyone off the network and [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► people are sad and it's just not a good [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► experience but in the case of the wii u [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► you know I eventually got past that [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► process got it on the network and [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► continued found the mac address but the [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► restriction back on did all the things [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► but that's a bad start for the wii u [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► like they're always usually think of [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► everything with the setup process I'm [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► gonna make this easy as possible and [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► here's a case where I feel like it [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► wouldn't take that much more effort to [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► provide some sort of expert option for [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► me to find the mac address and put it on [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► the box put it you know cuz I was [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► anywhere somewhere that's the kind of [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► thing it's like you're saying it's like [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► that goes along with that device forever [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► it's not like it's not like pro l [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► printing it on the box it could chant [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► you know I'm saying like it's it's [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► pretty much set in stone yeah and this [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► is a case where you know being an expert [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► user is biting me more like a novices [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► would have an easier time they have [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► totally unprotected networks and they [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► not to worry about any of this right but [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► I'm an expert user I know what I know [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► what I need to know I know and I know it [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► knows the information that I need it [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► just won't give it to me because it you [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► know it wants to do this friendly setup [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► process uh alright so so with the wii u [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► i get it on the network the next thing [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► wants me to do is set up a user account [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► ah and you know I this is a case where [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► being an expert user I think kind of [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► help but kind of freaked me out a little [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► bit because I know about Nintendo's [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► crazy drm system that they have or like [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► originally would the wii i think i [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► mentioned this before with when they [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► originally sold the wii they said any [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► game that you buy like over the network [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► on the we will be tied to that console [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► not tied to a user account not tied to [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► you as a customer but tied to that piece [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► of hardware which seems crazy to me [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► because it's like how does that make any [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► sense can't you at least tie it to me as [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► a person you know as if you got your we [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► repaired that have to give you another [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► one or only Nintendo can do the super [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► secret process that transfers your [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► assets the new console and stuff like [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► that so I knew going into this thing [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► when it maybe wanted me to make a user [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► accounts like okay well now they're [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► going to type to an account which is [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► better but I also knew that I wanted to [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► bring over all my user information and [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► stuff from the week and I knew it was [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► really crazy one time move only process [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► for games like you could take things off [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► of the wii and put them on the wii u but [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► you can only do that one time and they [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► were gone from the wii when you did that [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► why because thats that crazy drm god [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► forbid you have the you know game that [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► you bought in two places at once oh no [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► what would that mean piracy everywhere [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► uh and i believe there is a move still [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► not a copy operation but a move [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► operation for your game data but but you [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► can at least copy the game data pack you [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► can't copy the games back ah so I didn't [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► want to set up an account because I I [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► just wanted all my info from the we on [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► here I don't want to make a new person [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► with a new me and said all stopped up [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► with a new name and stuff like that i [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► mislike know I've already got like my [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► own me on the wii and I've all the stuff [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► uh I want that on to my we already know [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► what I want I want the wii stuff on my [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► wii u but you have no choice you have to [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► all right fine i'll set up but set up a [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► thing you know so i can just start using [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► but you can't get to the park that lets [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► you bring stuff over the wii yet you [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► have to set up an account and i was like [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► maybe i'll just call this user temp [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► right but then I was afraid I'm going to [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► be stuck with the username temp if I [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► can't delete it you know so I had to [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► give it the name John but I'm like well [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► what if only allows one user with the [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► name John then by can won't be able to [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► transfer over my thing like I'm [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► second-guessing everything about this [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► they know how brain dead their entire [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► system is and and the way this should [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► work the way this it should actually [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► work is when i plug in the wii u it [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► should find my we on the network and say [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► hey i see you have a weed you want me to [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► set this wii u up just like your wii was [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► set up right and it could do this like [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► it could do this even before it gets the [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► network you could do this with like [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► local proprietary networking or some [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► other things doesn't even require to get [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► on the Wi-Fi because Nintendo makes both [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► of the boxes I mean they already making [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► a proprietary Wi-Fi thing to control [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► their gamepad like there's no reason to [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► Nintendo boxes sitting next to each [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► other both with wireless networking [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► cannot find each other without access to [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► my network and then it could ask the [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► other wii u box of it you know this [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► wouldn't help in my case with the mac [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► restriction but it should be able to ask [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► hey we i know you're on the Wi-Fi [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► network can you tell me the setup info [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► and which SSID you're connected to and [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► what the password like that's how it [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► should work it should be like because [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► you are a Nintendo household you bring [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► in this new thing and it just it sets [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► itself up and it should configure [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► everything it would still be screwed [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► because the mac address restriction you [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► know because I'm crazy but [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► but that's how it should work there's no [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► reason this can't be done and then when [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► it finds the way it should copy over all [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► my stuff not move it in a destructive [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► one time if anything goes wrong during [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► this transfer process you're screwed [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► type of process that that isn't credible [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► you know so it should either be a one [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► step or a zero step process depending on [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► how crazy your network is but it is not [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► so instead this is what I had to do ah [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► so again I'm lucky that I read about [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► this all over the net before I tried it [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► to see what this process was so I was [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► prepared so I had that SD card that i [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► knew i would need that was not too big [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► to be read by the way you a big enough [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► to fit all my stuff on and everything ah [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► so the first thing you do once you get [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► in and it's on your Wi-Fi network and [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► you have your account set up or whatever [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► uh is to do a system update of course [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► you do because every time you buy an [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► electronic device now and you plug in [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► and immediately needs to have a so do [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► assistance actually look I was a little [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► surprised by that I guess it's I guess [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► it shows me out i'm not a touch i am [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► with consoles and stuff because when we [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► i have one here too and that was you [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► know the first thing that it makes you [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► do once they're in the network is the [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► system update a and you're saying that [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► standard that's a no-no is ever like if [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► you get you know an xbox ps3 especially [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► on launch especially ones like you know [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► launch day of the thing because they [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► have to go to manufacturing before the [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► software is done to software oh you know [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► software is always late right it's [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► always more you can do so they go the [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► things that they put on the machines in [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► the factory that's always like you know [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► a month old version of the software or [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► whatever and it and if unlaunchable yeah [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► and even when even later when you buy [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► one off the shelf that may have been [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► sitting in the back stock room for a [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► couple weeks or a month or whatever and [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► there's been a system update since then [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► so even if it was the current version [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► when it was made in the factory it's not [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► anymore so you just expect that uh to [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► happen right so i started the system [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► update and the little progress bar [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► filled in a tiny little bit and i just [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► sort of let it sit there and then i came [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► back in i noticed the progress bar [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► wasn't moving it had moved on like you [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► know a couple of millimeters but it was [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► not moving over like 15 minutes and I [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► start getting paranoid about Wi-Fi [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► reception this despite the fact that my [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► wii u is on the television entertainment [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► center that's only one room away from [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► where my actual router is but in line of [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► sight between that room and the other is [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► a wall and in the middle that wall is my [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► gigantic brick chimney so I'm like you [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► know and also the Wii U is on the far [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► side of my giant metal receiver box [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► whereas the wii is on the near side so [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► now i have the chimney and this big [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► box I'm like maybe he's just not getting [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► good Wi-Fi reception from where it is [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► and like I really need needs because I [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► have the ethernet switch right like two [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► feet away just plug it in but I'm like [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► oh I'm paranoid about the the wireless [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► not working but the progress bar isn't [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► moving uh now i had read this story [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► about uh poor Ben Kuchera who of the [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► penny arcade report who bricked his wii [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► u during the system update because they [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► give you all these dire warnings during [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► the system update do not unplug your [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► we'd like you always messaging you [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► always breathing like who's gonna unplug [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► their thing in the middle of a system [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► update who unplugs their things ever [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► that's just idiotic right it seems like [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► messages for dummies like you know they [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► do not eat thing on the silica gel pack [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► it inside you come on who's gonna eat [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► these right uh but Ben who is not [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► unfamiliar with games having been a [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► spending his career as a game writer in [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► dealing with consoles out the wazoo [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► including you know Deb consoles on her [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► stuff like that ah you can read the [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► story I put in the show notes the [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► incredible true story of high brick my [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► wii u uh you can see what he did like [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► it's not he what he did anyone could do [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► it you could forget that what you're [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► actually doing is is turning a thing off [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► because you know he had i know you read [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► about and see how he got himself into a [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► situation where wasn't clear to him that [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► the update was still going on and it [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► wasn't clear to him that he was [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► unplugging it and he got into a bad [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► situation so i have this bad Wi-Fi [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► reception i'm like you know what if i [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► could just if I could just get the wii u [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► console clear of the big metal receiver [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► box maybe you would have a better line [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► of sites i know this is not how a [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► wireless works please don't write me and [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► tell me the Wi-Fi is not lying upside i [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► know i know i'm just i'm just thinking [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► the progress bar is not moving maybe the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► signal is not as strong in this location [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► for whatever reason and maybe if I just [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► pull it out of the entertainment center [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► who'll be clear but all the while I'm [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► pulling this thing Adam like do not [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► brick this thing make sure the power [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► cable stays in like I'm pulling it [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► forward setting up these little wooden [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► blocks for it to sit on so it's clear [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► and the second I pull it clear of the [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► the receiver the progress bar started [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► moving and that could have been totally [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► unrelated maybe it was just a stall in [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► their servers who knows what the heck [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► the problem was but yeah but you know I [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► I mean if this makes you relax a little [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► bit I saw the same exact kind of [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► behavior where it was [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► it had stopped for quite a long time and [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► then would start and I didn't touch [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► anything but who who knows yeah you [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► can't diagnosable you have the progress [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► bar so like I thought maybe wireless was [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► a problem and it perhaps fooled me by [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► all of a sudden jumping as soon as I [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► cleared the thing from and maybe maybe [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► the Wi-Fi signal strength was a problem [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► so I don't know so I managed to keep the [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► power cord in and the progress bar went [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► through and a medical assistant up they [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► went through of course while it was [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► running I was googling around for Wii U [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► ethernet adapters which apparently [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► exists but or not I found like a third [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► party would I'm like how could there be [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► a third party USB to ethernet adapter [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► for the Wii U but not a first-party one [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► so anyway I might still look into that [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► alright so next the time to transfer [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► stuff for my week because all I've done [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► now is have an updated system with the [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► user account that I don't want to use I [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► want my stuff from my way so you have to [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► run this week for a transfer we you [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► transfer application which has really [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► long very wordy instructions that tries [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► to get you prepared for what you're [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► going to do which is nice they're trying [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► to guide you but bad that they need 17 [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► paragraphs of text to explain a process [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► that you shouldn't be involved in it [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► anyway because Nintendo makes both of [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► the boxes up eventually it asks you to [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► insert your blank SD card into the wii u [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► and then it prepares the card bit of the [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► heck that means maybe formats it maybe [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► put something on it or whatever and all [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► the while it's also communicating with [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► the server so this process is going to [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► involve the Wii the Wii U and SD card [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► and also Nintendo's servers and all [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► those things have to work in concert [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► with us to be pulled off so it's a lot [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► of moving parts here I then you have to [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► go on to your we make sure it's got the [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► system update then go to the Wii Shop [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► Store to download the wii u transfer [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► application which is free but you got to [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► go through that whole thing and now you [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► have the wii u transfer application on [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► your way which is confusing because it's [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► we you transfer anyway at some point it [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► wants you to take the SD card out of the [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► wii u and put it into the wii but it [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► does not make it very clear when it's [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► when you're supposed to do that like it [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► should say it should have like you neyo [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► next next term you do each step it [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► should have a thing that says you hit [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► next and it says okay now please take [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► the thing out but it doesn't it just [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► leaves you at the end of the current [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► instructions and you're like I guess I [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► take it out now like because the the wee [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► one says please insert the SD card so I [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► guess I'll take as soon as you take it [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► out of the wii u the screen changes to [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► confirm that what you did was the [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► correct thing but i was so paranoid [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► about screwing this thing up that it was [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► not clear to me that was going on and i [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► read those instructions and I read [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► online and I read the instruction [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► manuals I read [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► everything I'm making sure that I'm [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► doing the right thing but it was you [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► know I didn't make any mistakes but it [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► was not for all the texts they provided [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► it was not as clear to me that what I [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► was doing was the right thing even [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► though it was so you put the SD card [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► into the wii and a copy stuff onto it [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► there's a cute little Pikmin animation [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► that runs uh but unfortunately nothing [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► can hide the fact that this copy process [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► takes forever and I don't know why is it [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► because the SD card is slow is because [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► there's lots of data is because it's [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► communicating with a server in between [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► doing each move who knows why but it [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► takes way too long to do this and [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► finally you take the SD card out of the [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► we put it back into the wii u oh and by [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► the way when you're doing this that [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► means of course you have to have both [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► the wii and the way you don't have to be [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► on at the same time you can do it so you [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► turn what off on the other but it's you [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► know again i want to keep them both on [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► because i was paranoid so that means you [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► have to be controlling both the wii in [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► the wii u at the same time so you have [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► to make sure that you didn't repair all [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► your wiimotes with one or the other [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► let's not show you enjoy the whole [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► remote sharing thing alright so you put [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► the SD card back from your way into your [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► wii u and you see more pigment [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► animations and a more really really long [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► wait and at the end of that process all [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► of your wiiware games and all the things [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► that you bought on your we are now only [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► on your wii u and even though I knew [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► this was gonna happen during the cottage [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► how did you know that was gonna happen [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► well because I'd read every article [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► about I mean it research ahead of time [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► like the hell is the regular consumer [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► would would have been too what does it [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► tell you the process or what it [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► emphasizes in the process that it's [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► gonna be a moves not a copy like it [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► tells you many many times but you it's [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► kind of like the shrink wrap stuff on [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► software how many people are actually [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► gonna read that like they tell you many [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► many times keep in mind you know a if [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► this screws up your screw they kind of [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► say that and be this stuff will be gone [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► from your wii and will only be on your [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► wii u and even though i knew that you [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► know intellectually when it was copying [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► us it wait a second you know what that [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► means that i won't be able to play mario [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► 64 with a gamecube controller anymore [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► because my way is the good one that has [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► the Gamecube compatibility and I like [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► playing the mario 64 with my gamecube [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► controller can't do that anymore because [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► now Mary 64 is only on the Wii U and the [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► Wii U has no way from you use a gamecube [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► patrol and I don't have a pro controller [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► I don't think you're gonna like it [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► better than the gamecube controller [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► anyway ah so that was sad but my [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► solution was just to brute force and say [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► fine i will just repurchase mario 64 on [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► the wii so i can play with the gamecube [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► so that's what I did I'm trying to stop [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► doing that for every game I like to play [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► with the gamecube controller but i gotta [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► keep mary 64 around it's a favorite so [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► after that was done the next thing i did [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► was i tried Skyward Sword on the wii u [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► because i wanted my son was in the [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► middle of one of his i think a second [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► playthrough of Skyward Sword I wanted to [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► see can we just like not use the wii any [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► more like basically pretend that we as a [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► gamecube pretending that wii u is both a [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► way in a way you can we stop using that [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► for wii games so that i compare all my [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► remotes with the wii u and only leave [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► the the wii for gamecube stuff and this [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► gets into something we talked about in [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► the television episode so you run the [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► wii application on the wii u and it [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► turns the wii u into a week oh god this [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► this this sounds like the other foreign [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► language or nonsense words with all this [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► wii u wii stuff and you launch the game [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► but it shows skyward sword with a with a [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► black border around the entire screen [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► top bottom left and right like it [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► doesn't fill the entire screen and i [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► realized the reason it's doing this is [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► because i have my HDTV set to i don't [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► know what you would call this like the [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► correct native resolution like you know [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► HDTV has a certain resolution whatever [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► it is 1080 x whatever the other [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► resolution that i can never remember is [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► that's how many pixels are you know [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► picture elements are in the image but [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► most hdtvs comes set up so that actually [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► what you're seeing is like it chops off [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► the top bottom left and right borders [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► like a top saw chops off a margin of the [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► image and zooms the rest of the image up [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► a little bit i don't know why they do [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► that well actually i dunno why do I they [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► do that because the legacy of crts is [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► that CRT's used to not be able to show [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► that the picture around the edge or [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► cathode ray tube was distorted and bad [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► and so they would build television sets [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► with a little plastic rim around the [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► edge that would prevent you from even [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► seeing you remember when you had a TV [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► set like that it was like a tube shaped [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► thing and it wasn't a rectangle it was [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► kind of like a rounded rectangular [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► bulges yeah you know because the plastic [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► bezel was covering all that stuff up [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► like and so literally was not a [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► rectangle it was his weird rounded shape [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► there was sometimes picture being shown [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► underneath them but you couldn't see it [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► because it was you know covered up by [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► the [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► plastic bit as televisions eventually [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► became actual rectangles they continue [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► this practice I think they called that [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► was like the title safe area maybe we [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► think something else but they were [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► basically your television signal back in [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► the CRT days they would always hide the [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► edges of the screen because they assumed [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► that would look crappy eventually [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► display technology advanced to the point [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► where display technology was good enough [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► that the image on the edge of the screen [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► was just fine and then all you're doing [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► is losing information and scaling things [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► up and making them ugly so when the wii [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► u sends out the signal for a wii game [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► over its hdmi cable it sends it out just [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► as that little inset image assuming that [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► the television set is going to take that [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► image and zoom it so that those black [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► borders disappear and the actual an [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► image part of the image just touches the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► edges of the screens ah but i don't want [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► that i don't want the black border [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► around it i mean for burnin purposes [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► alone like why would i want that why [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► wouldn't i want to fill my screen just [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► fill my screen up with it now when i'm [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► running it on the way i have it [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► connected with component video and it's [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► an analog output and that does fill the [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► screen so this upset me because like my [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► television has a setting that can change [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► it they be mine on Panasonic's they call [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► it size one and size to size two is like [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► the correct size but you get to see [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► every single pixel the video signal that [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► you're paying for and size one says [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► throw out the top bottom left and right [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► sides and zoom the screen slightly [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► making everything blurry so that's why I [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► have my television always said to size 2 [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► and all my input but with this setup [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► what I would have to do every time my [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► son wanted to play Skyward Sword is [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► trained him to ensure that he does go to [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► the stupid television menu with these [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► super advanced picture settings which [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► like nine menus and change the thing [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► from size to back to size one right but [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► only when he's playing the wii games cuz [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► when you come back come play the wii u [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► games you gotta change it to size two [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► and you can't do different inputs [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► because you know it's all the same but [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► it's all the wii u so Skyward Sword on [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► the wii u out the window that still has [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► to also be played on the wii which means [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► i have to keep at least one motion [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► control remote tied to the wii to play [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► the wii games that was kind of [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► disappointing because i was hoping I [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► could you know retire the wii for [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► everything except for gamecube games but [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► that is not possible so i also copied [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► all of my save game data back to the way [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► again why does it move it when it could [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► copy it it just does the game data games [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► save data can be moved back to the way [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► so you can have your Skyward Sword save [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► games back over there so we can play it [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► successfully you can't transfer back [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► save data for any game that has a [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► network component [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► I think like mario kart wii where you [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► can play people over the network because [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► i don't know they tie that to your [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► network ID or some stuff like that you [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► can't transfer that back so some games [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► some wii games i can now only play in [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► the wii u 0 give a thumbs down to that [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► alright so finally now I've got [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► everything over there including my meez [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► and everything I finally create a new [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► user account associated with the me that [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► I transferred from my wii because we [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► have Me's for the whole family over [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► there apparently i couldn't just [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► reassign the me of the original user i [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► made i pretty sure i tried that it [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► didn't take good notes on it but like I [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► didn't want to assume that all I can [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► make a temporary user and then just [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► change the me associated with it and I [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► believe it's actually not the case and [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► like my paranoia would paid off there i [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► made a new user gave it my actual name [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► associated with my actual me and after [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► me the new user allowed me to leave [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► delete the old user so good so far then [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► I had to make a Nintendo network ID and [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► I had no idea what the hell that is so [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► back to the manual back to Google what [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► the hell is an attender no cry do you [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► know what is this thing they give no [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► good explanation for it in tendo's own [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► website like has very bad information [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► they try to explain it like friendly [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► turn since like no explain to me in [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► technical terms what does this mean [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► right so I hadn't you'd enter an email [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► address a username and by the way every [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► time they want you to enter username it [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► says please enter username and make sure [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► you don't use any personally [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► identifiable information and of course [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► my username I always use like on Twitter [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► and everything is my last name right and [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► so it's like it is that like forbidden [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► do they not want me to use my last name [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► is my username do I have to make up [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► something I guess it's like to protect [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► kids so you know nothing to get on your [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► yeah cuz I like if you're if you're [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► grown up and you're John siracusa like [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► who cares you know what I mean like oh [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► it that's John sirak used to running [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► around but I think I think you're like a [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► little kid it'll raise that not like so [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► much like a suggestion but like it was a [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► requirement so I was afraid I think I [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► ended up just using Syracuse I actually [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► forget what i pyxeas I don't think this [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► name comes up a much in there but that I [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► don't I mean because every what are you [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► gonna pick like you know uh duty head 65 [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► like you back I gotta pick something it [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► doesn't have any personally identifying [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► information not based on any of my [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► name's or any where I live or anything [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► like that so I guess people probably [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► just picking their their names were just [TS]