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00:03:13 ◼ ► all the URL still work or they redirect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/193">TS</a>]
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00:03:17 ◼ ► interview was from July first 2009 your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/197">TS</a>]
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00:03:23 ◼ ► pro can you guess what it is now same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/203">TS</a>]
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00:04:32 ◼ ► actually it's about the magnetic tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/272">TS</a>]
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00:04:37 ◼ ► creaky format or whatever well david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► says that he suggested this theory to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/278">TS</a>]
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00:05:20 ◼ ► phrase to match the technology changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► to the process ah so I'm glad my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► man's imagination about laying out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/326">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► shrinking them was not entirely off base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► thank you David the next one is from Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/332">TS</a>]
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00:05:47 ◼ ► you make to OS 10 or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/347">TS</a>]
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00:05:51 ◼ ► change did you make for us and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/351">TS</a>]
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00:05:55 ◼ ► yet more of the features that currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► only exist in you know mainframes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/358">TS</a>]
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00:06:03 ◼ ► upgrade and replace things without any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► down time which would surely it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► just a hardware feature would surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/369">TS</a>]
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00:06:11 ◼ ► support ah so this paper is right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► that alley uh it is a paper it's in Jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► fosters home directory so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► he's the last author listed on the paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► do we have any people in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► you know if the last author is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/383">TS</a>]
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00:06:27 ◼ ► right yeah but something like Tom a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► building you wanna be you and be listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/390">TS</a>]
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00:06:33 ◼ ► tell me there's surely some academics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► lurking in there but anyway the paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► was in his home directories probably in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► authors but this is the link that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► then uh then gave me oh it AF Waller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► says the lath author last author runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► the lab a last our foster chairman yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► I met I met AF Waller when I was out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► Atlanta and we had we had did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► hung out and had some drinks and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► know if I don't know if I would trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► this he says the first author writes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► paper or leads the group anyway the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► list of authors is Christopher M Hayden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► Edward k smith Mikhail dinchu Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► Hicks and Jeffrey S Foster and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► guys I believe all Jeffrey foster anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► is at the University of Maryland College [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► Park anyway that title the paper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► kitsune I'm assuming a pronouncing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► ride ki TSU any that looks right could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► soon a colon efficient general-purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► dynamic software updating for C and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► was presented at the oopsla conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► object-oriented programming systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/449">TS</a>]
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00:07:33 ◼ ► annual conference put on by the ACM ACM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► is association for computing machinery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► and the here's the the abstract for well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► more or less the abstract paper dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► software updating abbreviated as DSU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► systems allow programs to be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► developers to add features and fix bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► without downtime so basically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► say you want to upgrade some application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► you have currently it's like will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► your old version move to the trash and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► then give you a new version usually will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► make you quit the app to it technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► on Mac OS 10 you can throw the app in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► the trash and actually fully delete it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► usually if you know if you know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► do so and put a new version in place but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► you're still running the old version and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► possibly the old version will be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/495">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► cranky when it goes to try to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► deleted it and all sorts of bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► upgrade an application I'm Mac OS 10 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► any you know regular PC operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► you have to get rid of it ah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/506">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► installed then relaunch that well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► lets you take a running program and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► change it sort of in memory without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► about quitting the program or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► like that and this page this paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► introduces kitsune a new DSU system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► see whose design has three notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► features so there are many such systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► that do this type of thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/527">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► know altering a running program to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/528">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► the program maintaining up done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► attributes said versus it's updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► mechanism updates the whole program not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► individual functions this mechanism is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► more flexible than most prior approaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► and places no restrictions on data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► representations allowed or our compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► optimizations it makes the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► aspects of updating explicit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► program text so you have like alter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► program to let it know like here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► important parts right and the programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► can write simple specifications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/558">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► direct kitsune to generate code that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► traverses and transforms old version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► state used by new code so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► everything has some sort of internal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► memory state that doesn't work with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► new version of the program you can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► specifications that say okay you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► going to take this running program with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► this internal memory state and replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► it with this new program with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► functionality and you have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► translate the state to a state that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► program and they used it as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► paper to update five popular open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► single and multi started programs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► found that few program changes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► required to use kitsune and it occurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► essentially no performance overhead this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► is all weird and academic and obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► but the upshot is that you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► that this technology came to Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► it'll be possible to upgrade programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► and the operating system would not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► only about refining a reboot but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► application to get the new version we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► still in the age now or half the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/611">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► that I want to upgrade forced me to quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► all my browsers which makes me upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/615">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► mm-hmm it makes me less upset now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► have an SSD at work because man I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► realized how much of quitting a browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► relaunching it had to do with disk i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► like I guess it's just reading things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► from the disk cache and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► on as almost as if I wish it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► pull from the network instead of reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► a dish cast because relaunching like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► chrome with a million open windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► happens so much faster than you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► SSD is that what you're browsing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► chrome I've Safari my primary browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► and chrome is my secondary Boozman it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/641">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► secondary but chromis replaced by but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► I'm running both all day for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► purposes and yeah but they both had tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► of open windows and I got a quote on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► browser is you're always worried you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► gonna lose state or and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► chrome was really good about maintaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/658">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► state like your history and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► but like we did I have some form in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► windows and I can remember then it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► browser and we launched it but with an S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► estate takes last time but anyway I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► installing some program and it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► by the way we're gonna make you quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► your browser's like come on like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► not doing anything browser related what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► kind of our we're messing with internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► plugins are you know isn't it I plugin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► like flash I didn't like what flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► would make me quit the browser's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► know this is several levels above that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► no restart don't need to quit the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► will patch them in process who knows if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► it's feasible or if it's a good idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► like things like this happen in Maine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► brings all the time and the things I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► describe this is kind of like blue sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► you know our pie in the sky thinks I oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► sure we like everything to be magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► and wonderful but the technology exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► to do a lot of these things to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► to be resilient against fate failures to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► be able to roll your system back in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► selectively to various states you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► you can imagine if you did like an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► upgrade and a major things slower if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► was really easy to just slip back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► old one without having to like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► this would require uh yeah a filesystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► a file system they can do this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► thing like btrfs or butter FS do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► talked about in the past of butter yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► and many other technologies to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► make make your system be able to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► updated on that like all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► humans don't like that computers need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► like it's that's the human serving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► computer like all right well I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/742">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► don't like to I don't want to restart my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► entire computer and quit all my programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► even if they like restore state there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► try to restore state it's a pain in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/748">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► butt but the computer needs me to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► you know and I don't want to quit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► application that I'm in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► working but i do want to upgrade this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► other one and the computer makes me do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► it all those things that the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► makes you do that you wouldn't otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► do those can all go away and should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► go away eventually so i put a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/762">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► the actual paper to PDF in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► notes and you can take a look at it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► you want next bit of follow-up is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/769">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► the touchy-feely geek culture misogyny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► thing we talked about two shows ago one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► of your most epic and most epically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► received show then i got a couple extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► pieces of hate mail this week did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► really I hate this strike hate mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/790">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► stragglers are still there but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► you're right overwhelmingly positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► feedback um this came from several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/794">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► appointed to a YouTube video by someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► named Jay smooth this actual name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► John Randolph oh he's apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► jaysmith his DJ name he is the host of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/806">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► Underground Railroad he also does video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► blogging on hip hop music calm and ill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► doctrine which is YouTube video blog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/819">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► this is an older video and the title of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/823">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► it is how to tell people they sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► racist and it draws at the links in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► distinction as we discussed last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► between what he calls the what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► conversation and he gives this issue a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► slightly more adversarial bent than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► did on the show it pointing out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/843">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► somebody with what they are attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► saying oh you are racist it feels good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► to attack and I feels like the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► attack against someone who's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► something like that yeah it's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► lot easier for the target of the attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► to deflect this kind of thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► like I said you can't know what's in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► heart you know this is to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► like motivations and and thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► feelings and it's much easier for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► to defend against you calling it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► you know doing the what they are thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► uh and it's true you can't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► in their heart like that's you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/873">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► that conversation is that they do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► an upper hand there so it's a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► better idea to focus on what what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► did conversation which is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► concrete and even though it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► it's the wimpy air attack he's saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► don't let them off the hook by jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► into the what they are conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► because that's just so easy to deflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► and turn into something different if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► if you just focus you know and don't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► to move the goalposts you know you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► focus on the what they did conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► were just concrete you can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► discuss it's actually a stronger attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► so this is different than I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► you know don't go to the what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► because that that feels like it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► know back in them into a corner uh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► wife is here waving a wii u in my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► I've excellent she can she unpacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► this unpacking for me what if I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► unpack it all the popcorn that's in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► all right you're glad that I unpacked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► cuz I have a degree all right well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► I've got the wii u here but yes I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► actually play it I'll just look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► longingly on the desk during the blast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/929">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► promotion as a sticker on an exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► offer yes that's you it's very nice I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/939">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► gonna do want us would you like to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► the show here and then you can go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► unbox it plain I can resume and we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► record sunday afternoon which is I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► not like to do alright I've got a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► alright so the J smooth video um so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/957">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► I thought that was interesting that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► same the same argument about not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/962">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► caught to you know to concentrate more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► on the action rather than trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► different angle on it also beneficial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► saying like you know this is actually if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► you're interested in attacking someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► for something like that don't it's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► your interest to stay away from the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► they are conversation because that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► is much harder to win its the you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► shake your ground and there's a longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► version of this video that other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► College same guy j smooth the title of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► this talk is uh how i learned to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► worrying and love discussing race the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► the other that you tube one is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► short it's like 60 seconds long or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► minutes long this one is longer kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► TED talk length and in this one he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► mentions that he gets feedback of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► main kinds about that video about how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► people tell people they race this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► been a very popular video and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► have been linking it around for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► time the first kind of feedback he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► is like positive support like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► great job really like your video blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► blah ah and the second kind of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► he gets is reports from people who tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► the technique and it didn't really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► them so you know like I watched your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► video and the next time something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► that happened to me instead of me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► know trying to have the what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► conversation I tried to concentrate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► what they did and you know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► didn't really help and I like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► because you know this appeals to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► sensibilities of this guy's famous for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► this YouTube video and he goes and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► a longer version of the talk and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► first thing he does is describe what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► wrong with this talking no it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► work in your life uh you should watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► as in the longer talk is he is he flips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► it around he talks about how to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► this kind of feedback about yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► yeah and and and make a positive change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► based on it had it you know how to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► the receiving end of it and how to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► getting defensive explaining sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► rather than explain why this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► work is explained well here's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► can imagine why it doesn't work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► imagine if it happened to you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► your reaction be to get defensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► the point he makes about this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► when you believe that you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► perfect in order to be good it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► strongly averse to accepting any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► criticism it kind of it turns the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► you did criticism immediately into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► what you are calmed in nations you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► because as soon as you say oh you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► this thing that's bad if your definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► your head is if you ever do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► that's racist then you are a racist then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► the what you did versus what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► conversation is not really helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► because as soon as cell someone tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► you you did that thing like all but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► personal definition is that if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► do anything racist you me to the r-1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► therefore you know uh so I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► was clever interesting and this J smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► guy looks really smart and awesome and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► like him uh I also get some up some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► other feedback from people was that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► is that the the what you did versus what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► you are someone some brought up it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► the idea of a murderer like how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► it's contracting what you did versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► what you are is letting them off easy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► think j smooth how do you encounter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► but my counter would be that like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► really depends on what is your talk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► you can't do a blanket I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► were looking for a blanket rule like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► what you did versus what you are is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► universal rule for life well there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► rules like that very few rules like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► except maybe gravity uh and and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► have to do on a case-by-case basis so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► what it comes down to is do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► the action is redeemable ah you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► shouldn't you know to disagree you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► worried about this up doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► versus being something debate you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► it really depends on do you think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► who does this there's no redemption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► there's no coming back from it once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► do this you are this thing and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► no point in trying to change your future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► behavior because this label should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► rightfully apply to you always and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► good example is when you call someone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► murderer it's a many people may be of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► the opinion that once you can murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► and it's not like oh man don't don't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► labels on man don't call don't call him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► a murderer because that's gonna back him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► into a corner you rally just talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► what he did like that murdering you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► was bad let's talk about that versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► calling him a murderer which but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► know and it could be used aside that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► action there's no coming back from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► and then label is yours forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► tough luck right uh I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► saying something sexist or racist is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► murderer and you can't apply this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► blanket rule to in either case right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► be be careful about taking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► guidelines or advice from anybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► saying it this kind of that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► speaking of geek culture suddenly a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► thing like you you're some piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► advice or guideline you're like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► must be a general principle that applies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► completely invalid that's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► how the world works like everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► context dependent in its stall fuzzy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► gray and there aren't many you no hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► and fast rules uh so yeah check out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► video if you haven't seen it before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► don't know Jay smooth is cuz he he seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► cool alright uh there's a comment on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► Simcoe com oh this is my this is like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► version of RSS is twitter where I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► links and I think Horace link to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► himself he frequently does this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► great thing that Horace does I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► doesn't just link to his own articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► like hey I wrote something like semco he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► does that to like here you know new post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► on my blog take a look at it he links to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► comments but you know specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► anchor links to those comments on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► own blog post correct and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► is awesome because it's kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► blog version of follow up right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► his audience has a lot of good smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► things to say and he not only allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► them to post their and participates in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► the discussion but he highlights them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► saying check this out guys so this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► he linked to by William Cox is attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► to the article the New Age of capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► intensity she talks about capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► expenditures and Apple as usual and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► some of the things I William cock says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► Horace I just thought you should know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► that Apple is indeed popping up with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► sorts of plans to move things in-house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► AMD and Qualcomm both have graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► divisions in Orlando your old down no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► designers with Samsung of the a4 chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► Orlando setting up shop for a new plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► they're recruiting heavily from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► competitors senior staff I would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► for apple to abandon power VRS the GPO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► supplier in a couple of years and move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► everything in-house so here's a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► where retarded before I like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► apple buys a company it doesn't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► difference if they want all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► to work in cupertino well here's Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► setting up you know Apple employees in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► shop in Orlando which just so happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► graphics divisions right and actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► you know trying to get employees who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► either currently or used to work for AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and Qualcomm to say you guys don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► to move you can keep your house where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► you are in fact we set up a shop right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► here because it if you're if Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► to like you know this is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► saying I'd example apples makes its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► asics CPU but it's still using GPU made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► by somebody else what if they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► make their own GPU but you gotta you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► know hire some good mobile GPU designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► and the best way to do that is to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► some you know an office specifically for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► this purses right next to two other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► offices that have to do with making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► mobile GPUs and of course they bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► intrinsically a while back which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► a mobile GPU related chip-making company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► so this isn't this is pretty strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► evidence if all this is true from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► common that Apple really has its eyes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► you know not relying on other people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► hardware we're gonna make our own CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► designs a6 we're gonna make her own GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► ah maybe they're not gonna buy their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► fabs but like reading this and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► about this and then seeing how serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► they are because like this no my reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► you know as you can surely test that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► the only reason you set up an office in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► Orlando that's right but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► there's no reason to be there trust me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► unless you're an imagined here or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► something then even then even then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► want to be in California know the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► I'm gonna get it wrong and kill my cred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► here but the real disney world that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► right yeah real disney world isn't far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► the real disney world is in florida i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► worked there did you know that yes i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► not listen to all your show okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► worked in there and that don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► confused people will call the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► kingdom disney world it is not disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► inclusive of the magic kingdom it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► includes the epcot center it includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► all the resorts it includes what we used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► their thing all of that that is Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► World Magic Kingdom is the place with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► the castle right but it's not Disneyland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► on California is that shadow of the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► thing the Disneyland I think you can fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► 50 Disneyland's in the parking lot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► the Magic Kingdom Djem antic kingdom so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► that's why you're saying if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► be an Imagineer you want to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► Orlando you don't want to being they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► have a big data center out there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► right but it's not that's not a draw for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► people yeah so somewhat reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► comment and assuming is true my thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► was is there anything Apple thinks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► can't do hardware-wise like I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► know we have our own little box that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► put apple in like you know Apple makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► computers and they buy their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► CPUs from Intel or IBM or motorola or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► whatever and that box is not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► box that Apple puts itself in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► Apple clearly says you know what we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► make your own CPUs a hire a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► people there's no reason we can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► this we go we'll get an armed license we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► won't we won't just take someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► cores and put them together we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► make her own CPU called ba6 right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► that was a box that other people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► apple in it but they you know said no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► don't we don't recognize that boundary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► and now I'm thinking like is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► anything anything related to hardware at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► all that Apple thinks well we can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► know make your own cases and maybe make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► Iran CPUs but we can't do X is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► anything like that I think they can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► can it do they think they can make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► own hard drives their own SSDs their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► screens there you know sure it's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► everything is up for grabs now and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► tempting to think of things with the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► mindset especially people of our age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► like certain things you do as the maker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► of personal computers and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► certain things you know your part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► suppliers do an apple seems willing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► it comes to hardware to say ah the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► reason we would ever let a part supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► or do this is if the margins are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► low and it's not strategically important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► for us to do it right the reason would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► never be oh we don't know how to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► oh we can't do though you know we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► make desktop CPUs that's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► we're not in tell if Apple decides it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► strategically important for them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► that they're not going to let that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► know old world definition of what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► other things stop them like economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► and feasibility and all sorts of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► things but clearly in this case their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► eyes seemed set on making not only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► CPU part but also the GPU part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► that's very interesting um now but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► careful to add hardware wise as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► qualifier to that statement is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► anything Apple thinks it can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► because clearly there's plenty that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► Apple can't do cloud service wise which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► is sad a little sad smiley face my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► likes that uh but maybe maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► Hardware machismo can be funneled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► apple finally taking the reins on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► service operations and you know building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► its own server hardware since of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► it doesn't it doesn't make exurbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► anymore never really use them that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► and it's a server side stuff anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► maybe if Apple becomes like you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► can do anything we can we'll make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► own Ram will make her own CPUs we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► our own but you know nothing we can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► with hardware hopefully then was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► you know what we keep buying these uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► you know rackmount servers from Dell or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► whoever the heck they're buying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► from these days why don't we make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► own ones of those and maybe parlay that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► into saying we can make our own server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► side infrastructure you know we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► the our own equivalent of bc2 and gfs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► MapReduce and all that stuff like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► can't we do that too uh basically this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► this is my this gets back another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► question last show you know what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► you do if you were in charge of Apple my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► small one was new file system that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► one was get their server side stuffing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► gear ah but the idea is giving apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► level attention to products that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► never be in the hands of users because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► apples like all the whole company's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► focus on making it so that when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► into the store and you buy this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► iPad Mini or whatever it's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► amazing beautiful thing that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► care about you get that thing in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► hand how does it work how does it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► has everything you know and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► seems like everything else that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► on back an apple like that their bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► tracking tool which the people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► see to tend not to like and they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► know how everything to internally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► what do they use for the data center and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► it's like well then that doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► you don't see that when you go into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► apple store right but the turner has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► be no you have to also give that amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► Apple attention to detail and level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► awesome things to the things that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► never be touched by a customer and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► it physically touched because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► though customers will never be in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► data center and will never see all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► cool infrastructure and stuff that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► does affect the end-users increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► affects the end-user so even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► don't steal that stuff when I cloud is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► flaky and doesn't work right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► totally affects the other users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► that's that's the the philosophical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► turnaround that Apple needs to get not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► just like hey put a DQ in charge because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► he makes a trains run on time and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► make iCloud kind of sort of do what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► supposed to do it has to be an area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► excellence like it is with Google like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► Google stakes the reputation on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► operational excellence they do amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► things in the data center with amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► technology like they concentrate even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► though Google's customers don't touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► their server center Google's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► customers have no idea but all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► underlying technology but they know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► something doesn't work or it's flaky uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► so that that's the turnaround it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► to happen there and I hope Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► amazing balls when it comes to what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► think they can do in Hardware some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► that transfer is over like maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► sneaks in the back door like just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► harbor guys going we're so awesome make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► a hardware now why don't we just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► our own servers would be way cheaper I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► can just sneak in that way making your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► own service to run other people's stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► you know running Windows Azure whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► stuff on things that they make or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► running oracle on their own servers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► maybe Oracle wouldn't ever give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► support if they tried to run another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► hardware but you know I'm hoping this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► religion about the server side but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► know what the odds of that are and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► is a follow-up QA almost done with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► follow up here okay it's a question that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► was asked that didn't make it in the Q&A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► show but it got sent in regular feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► in it's all you have chosen seed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► could I was supposed to pick those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► questions it was sent way after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► was already recorded okay so you show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► your chosen to receive a question and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► answer it despite the fact that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► asked me to okay no that's cool it it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► be fine you'll be okay all right ah me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► and I asked answer questions in Fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► Ball time sometimes I just answer them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► by email but I figured this one was of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► enough general interest maybe I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► this is from brent Muir he says in hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► covel 97 you mentioned that York with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► work with oracle PL sequel have you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► able to find a decent Mac Oracle query [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► tool or he's been trying to find one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► and clunkier bloated blah blah I asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► me if I use a GUI sequel query tool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► if so which one uh-huh so what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► asking about is Muir Island is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► where he's from Mui are I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► them you're our Island maybe that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► mutant research complex so I've heard oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► really I mean that's how do I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► you all right so this is asking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► when you have a database you need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► way to be able to type sequel queries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► it and say here run this query and show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► me what the results are and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► lots of different tools to do that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► asking about a GUI tool we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► some little window where you type your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► single query then you press a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► button and then you see the results in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► some sort of like gooey table view or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► something like that and I think the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► reason he's asking about this is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► Oracle comes with and has come with many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► years a tool called sequel + SQL p lus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► spelled out that way that is a command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► line tool you run sequel + and you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► little prompt than you type to query and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► then return it runs your query and shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► you the results anybody who's ever used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► a my sequel postgres or any you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► open source database is familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► this type of tool because they all come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► with the tool that you it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► named after the database you type the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► sequel command and you've got you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► get a prompt and then type sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► queries and sure the postgres one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► called psql without the G which I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► frustrating uh and we're used to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► type of thing now if you haven't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► Oracle what you may not understand about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► SQL pluses a that it's really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► seemingly never been updated to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► better and what do I mean by better well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► this is a command line tool that has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► red line support nerds know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► means but what it boils down to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► who don't know is that red line is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► library lets you do stuff like hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► up arrow to get your previous command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► history use the arrow keys command a to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► go to the beginning committee our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► commander petroleo beginning at R okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► to kill lines like line editing history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► in lining then we take for granted like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► who's going to make an interactive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► command-line tool that does not have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► support for command history that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► crazy and yet in in 2012 if you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► latest version of oracle i believe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► have close to the latest one at work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► on the SQL plus thing that comes with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► and I can try to do command history at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► the up arrow you'll see like uh carrot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► left square bracket whatever the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► for a power like it doesn't work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► doesn't it doesn't have you know line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► editing and this the defaults are crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► like the faults made for like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► mainframe terminal from years ago I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► don't know exactly why sequel plus is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► terrible i'm sure people will get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► terribleness of sequel plus and why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► can never ever change it because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► have sequel plus scripts that rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► its terribleness everything about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► terrible command-line options how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► connect the kinect strings that the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► results are displayed it is perhaps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► worst widely used command line program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► in the entire world oh it's it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► obvious that anyone who you have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► Oracle in this day and age does not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► to use sequel plus so the desperate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► anything to use instead of sequel plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► and they're asking about GUI tools now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► Oracle does make I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► Oracle I think it's going to be Oracle's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► own tool now called a sequel developer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► think it's called it's a job of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► right away it's pretty hideous on Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► 10 but it is a GUI and it as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► actually better than sequel plus so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► answer to brent is the GUI tool i use is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► Oracle's disgusting sequel developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► java thing that's what i use i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► like it but i use it ah the the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► advice I have for doing stuff is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► don't if you can't stand the Java thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► visits gross and you can't instant super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► plus there is a command called RL wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► which you may or may not know about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► L stands for read line RL wrap is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► general-purpose command that will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► some other command whose whose authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► are too too lazy or non-existent because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► maybe the authors are all dead too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► read line support that's the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► I can think of either either your Oracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► or this program was written by people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► who are now not living like how does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► has a command line program not have red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► line support let's see it will wrap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► program so that you're really talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► RL wrap and it gives you command editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► and stuff like that and then it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► pass that on to the to the underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► program so you can use ro wrap with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► sequel plus then they can alias and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► run that alias and it works surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► well so I put a link to ro wrap in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► show notes it's one of those UNIX tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► that even a lot of UNIX nerds don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► about it you'd know that if you ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► to use Oracle because you were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► quickly say there's no way in hell i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► everyone or i got to find something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► you find our rap so that was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► question i chose to entertain perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► too obscure oh and one final question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► before we go through fault this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► question that many people asked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► continue to ask and will continue to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► this is a question for you Dan Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► hypercritical t-shirts everyone wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► know what's the deal with that I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► answers them because i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► don't control the t-shirt so I'm asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► you actually anything about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► critical teacher in in this case you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► haven't do control the t-shirts uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► several t-shirt designs were put forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► going back I would say even as far as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► year ago and none of them i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► none of them were suitable i gave you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► suggestion for a tag line and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► put this on the shirt and and do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► you're saying now that you prove these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► shirts but you you you showed me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► yes yes or no do you prove the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► shirt then that we talked about I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► that sure it's fine i'm not sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► would be what people want but i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► that shirt would be fine alright i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► said i believe last time we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► this that i'm also fine with a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► that just has the name of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► that's fine with me too and i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► think i saw i said that uh other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► may find just the name of the show more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► appealing as a shirt than the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► suggested to be on the shirt um so in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► case I have no objections to shirts uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► but I'm also not doing anything to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► them happen okay so let's do the shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► then we'll do them because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► production facilities in place now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► all of this seriously i'm not i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► kidding we're ready to do this you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► feedback from from listeners about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► whether they want a simple shirt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► just as the name of the show or a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► with an obnoxious text on it that i made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► up uh we could do we could do both and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► sell both because i have a you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► don't remember what the original shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► suggestion was but I didn't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► one so i said if you're gonna put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► bunch of text on it it's really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► should be this thing that I suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► which I think no one would ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► wear but I think it's funny uh or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► the name of the show and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► and can we can we have your avatar on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► that's the thing i don't like so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► people have seen the other shirts like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► Merlin shirt we've all seen that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► right piece has been for sale has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► his face on it right we have done way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► have requisitioned an avatar of you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► it is great Jory Raphael did it the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► that does the other avatars in the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► that's done all the work on five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► for you know the Shonan the shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► show artwork and he did one of you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► would say it's stunning I don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► like the drawing is nice just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► question just anyone want even a cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► version of my ugly head on their shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► whatever so I shall we do in a hole I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► don't have objections to you selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► your shirt with my head on it's all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► question of look if you want to sell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► lot of shirts we should make sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► the people actually want to buy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► have a difficult time understanding what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► it is that people want out of a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► like this okay so uh here's my question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► for you then would you be content with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► do you want to make this decision or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► sure will you leave it to the listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► uh any any of these options are fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► okay I'll tell you what it's my face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► without plan show title or the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► that I suggested okay so yeah so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► I'll just just going to put this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► there uh we are doing t-shirts now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► that is that is there we are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► shirts I will do a survey right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► I will put it what or by the time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► show posts it will be in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► the show notes are going to be at five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► by five TV such hypercritical such 98 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► you can go and vote using this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► survey which will ask which of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► maybe I can even show the images there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► and people will be able to pick between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► the two shirts I I personally thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► would be wonderful this was very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► wonderful to have a little road sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► that said sirak entering now entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► syracuse accounting be towed yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► would personally i would love the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► out of that shirt I'd get five of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► wear one every day over over my regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► shirt that's how much I like it and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► sleeping mm-hmm but you said no so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► choice that we have are either the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► of the shirt like I mean to the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► the show on a shirt that just says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► hypercritical would you want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► sort of font and styling that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► for the artwork ah or would you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► something different I don't know i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► have to see options but yeah but okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► but that's the obvious way to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► that one okay and then the other idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► that I had was your face with some text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► that you had suggested which I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► could be beneath it right you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► the face with the one with the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► the show to like I say the face is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► optional you can say with or without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► face either one of these two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► there are many possible permutation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► like what it comes down to is like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► are evenly spread then I can just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► one right but if it everyone leans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► towards one thing you want it like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► shirts are for the fans so I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► give them something that they would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► right right so that's why I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► should have input into this and Plus you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► mean you want to sell a lot of shirts so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► you know don't sell the one that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► wants to buy and you will but just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► that people understand this you you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► profit from these shirts this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► thousands of them yes I want yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► there's not there's not there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► big margin and t-shirts I mean we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► make a few bucks but it's after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► production and shipping and the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► that it takes for the people to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► box them up or package them up and send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► them away it's it's not a lot but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► profit-sharing game I'm assuming that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► a minimum threshold where you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► sell certain number shirts or to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► profitable at all so well yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► mean it's it's got to be and it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► be a couple hundred at least but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► sure well I'm sure what's up way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► than that will so way more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► will sell I I predict we sell I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► know I don't know Merlin sell Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► knows how to sell off shirt ya know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► had many shows to to uh but I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► you what it were here's the thing though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► they're not gonna they won't make it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► people by Christmas oh yeah no this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► not like a Christmas thing or like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► this may all happen after the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► off the air which I have no problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► like a fans want shirts you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► people have called it a commemorative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► t-shirt like hey remember that show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► so listen to it's gonna anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► could we put a little commemorative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► symbol on it somehow you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► put like years like it's a gravestone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► would love it might be fun a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► morbid in memory of John syracuse's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► two more but okay I'm just an idea guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► you're gonna have to run so there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► there is some motion on t shirt front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► fans 42 minutes in can I do a sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► yet you can hover com simplified domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► management you know you go out there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► want a domain that's what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► commnet CEO TV whatever that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► want and a lot of these places they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► try and upsell you and stuff they'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► and sign you up for stuff that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► want they'll try and you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► registration from what you thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► one year to two years so all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► you're paying twice as much and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► don't know why and this the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► is because they want your money well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► hover wants your money too but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► don't want to nickel and dime you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► don't want to they don't want to to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► know to give you a hard time with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► they just want you two to be happy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► just want you to be happy so you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► there you enter a name in the field and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► they should tell you if it's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► register it and they give you free who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► is protection they'll do free domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► name transformation transfer valet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► services where if you go through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► awful process of trying to liberate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► name from some other place they'll do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► they'll just do it for you so here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► deal ten percent off if you use the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► Dan sent me hover com / dan sent me ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► percent off everything you do over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► and now that Google Apps is charging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► for their services for the email stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► you might want to check out their email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► hosting it's pretty cool go check them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► out hover com son Dan sent me 42 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► in John yeah it's like so this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► grant bag show I know I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► we're gonna have to squash into two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► sponsors before you're done well I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► go on for a long time I know you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► just a heads up you know yep so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► might hear my grab bag tops for today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► I've got google maps iTunes 11 Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► in the news the Apple made in the USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► thing twitterrific 5 wow wow let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► with twitterrific 5 or is is dire am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► in do I have any influence over this Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► IRA said that you I I'm just listen them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► all so we know because I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► we're gonna get to all Oh we'll get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► wall because they'll go along now get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► a mall all right I will I will hoist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► twitterrific 5 up to the top I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► to keep them that seems like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► we're in my it seems like a quick win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► you know I'll sing always think things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► always seem quick don't then yes they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► I start talking about them all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► this actually will be quick i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► actually no notes on this is all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► going off my head my notes are words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► twitter i pick in the number 5 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► Twitter 5 is out twitterrific is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► incarnation it has a unified timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► what I call the unified timeline we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► describe a some past shows basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► it's a single time sorted list of tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► doesn't matter what kind of tweets they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► are or why you're seeing them is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► one big long list and it's sorted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► time so you see the tweets from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► people you follow you see retweets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► the people you follow you see any tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► that mentions your name you see tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► that are replies to you you see your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► direct messages all in one list all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► sorted by time and that's the way I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► to read Twitter and app net because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► gives me one list to go through and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► from the bottom up to the top because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► that's the way people do Twitter clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► these days and that's it no switching to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► different panes now checking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► replies over here and are checking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► direct messages over here even those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► those alternate views do actually exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► I never used them so that's twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► ah and I have tried and purchased many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► many many other Twitter clients uh from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► the original tweet to all have to modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► things like tweetbot of the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► twitter client until it got gross and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► you know tons of other what a twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► or twinkle or whatever that crazy one as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► well it what is your current as of right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► now what is your current choice you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► number one you're number one for twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► client yeah twitterrific like i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► saying as I've tried so many other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► and I've always ended up coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► twitterrific I the only other ones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► even have installed anymore is I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► have tweetbot installed I believe ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► that's it I think I'll see other bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► of kind of favor I think twinkle was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► one this is amazing you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► Twitter the way it is today but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► either I don't remember what it is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► mole do you think it's twinkle in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► chat room it was the one made by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► company that employed Mike Lee uh way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► the company was and what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► trying to do is make a twitter client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► but like attaching their own social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► network to it oh so like you did stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► and like it's posted to Twitter but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► also tracked other information about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► and had its own like social network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► thing built in like it was can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► imagine like they don't even let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► make a regular twitter client these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► and these guys in the early days were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► making or make trying to make their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► social network piggybacking on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► Twitter social graph yeah that would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► fly these days different different time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► totally different time the old days a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► good to salad days yeah uh anyway uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► always try out the clients like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► just stuck on Twitter but I do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► unified timeline and lots of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► clients don't have that so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► keeping you away from other clients a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► lot including tweet but uh but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► the thing about twitterrific I used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► when it came out and then they came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► with a version to an aversion to was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► like version one with like stuff tweaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► it was like an entirely new program it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► twitterrific there was some similarities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► in like the default dark theme which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► characteristics of having like text on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► dark background a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► colors the same and of course the icon a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► little alley tweety bird which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► entire world steals from them and uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► otherwise it's like they burn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► application to the ground and made a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► one right and that was disconcerting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► twitterrific and now this is other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► that you also call twitterrific it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► totally different program so we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► twitter if Rick five now and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► a new version is twitterrific has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► back I have liked the old version better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► than the new version at one way to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► at that is that twitterrific is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► worse and worse over time but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► actually the case what happens is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► I'm like oh my god this new version I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► can't use this I'm stickin with the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► one but by the time the new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► comes out the old version which used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► be the new version I like better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► like I come around the other side so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► I'm twitterrific three came out I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► twitterrific to better than Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► every boy yeah and I said ouch whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► twitterrific to it's perfect don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► change the thing what I just you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► need to do anything maybe just add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► something but you don't need a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► app and this happens every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► 22 23 when three came out of like no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► like you know but knowing for came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► and said I'd rather stick with 34 is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► and then it's it and like wasn't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► the version that you refuse to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2938">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► to a little while ago and it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► amazing phenomenon of uh you know Isis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► just sticking with something you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► heard know you're with they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► having an emotional attachment to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► particular look and feel of the client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► cuz it's not like they did radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► changes in functionality it's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► just look and feel and how things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► arranged and where buttons are and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► like that ah so I'm amazed again that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► happened you know Twitter five once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► again Twitter hook five looks like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► burned twittering for to the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► wrote an entirely new application it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► like just has the same name and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► like Twitter fit for better than Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► five and i said i know i just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► stick with four but when twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► six come out I sound gonna feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► Twitter and five know if I was perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► six what are you doing you messin things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► up it's an amazing phenomenon to me ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► that's just what I wanted to mention ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► now it could be like every time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► like all right that happened last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► but this time no seriously guys I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► do like the old version better uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► this time I'm not gonna come around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► it's not just a matter of being used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► the old one there are actual real things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► that are different about this version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► that I don't like they're gonna keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► on it of course I've thought that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► all the past version 2 and it's turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► out not to be the case ah so this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► around uh yeah got Twitter hook 5 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► like to work for better because it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► nice not because of the functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► functionality they finally added pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► to refresh with a cute little animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► with that bird coming out of an egg ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► and it's it's faster and responsive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► has more features like it's just that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► tweets don't look like they used to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► for something you stare at so much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► I use Twitter a lot I'm constant looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► out on my ipod touch stuff you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► attached to the way things look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► that's not what at weeks supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► look like things are rearranged or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► the wrong colors and are in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► fonts to the wrong size and yeah so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► is the challenge of making new software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► and I applaud icon factory for across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► five versions continuing to do this say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► I think it called that on Twitter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► Phoenix like transformation like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► time they just burn there that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► most beloved think you know the beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► Twitter client they burn to the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► and make a new one and they just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► know they don't backslide and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► you know go back and change it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► looks like the old one they just plow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► admirable and very interesting of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► if you've never used whatever for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► Twitter 5 can stand on its own merits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► but apparently I'm sentimental about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► way software used to look was that fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► those fast is pretty fast Google Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► thanks google maps boy oh boy it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► I write one was that yesterday yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► yesterday morning brand new google apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► Google Maps app for iOS came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► people have been installing it on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► and it almost immediately became the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► most popular app in the App Store it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► ten thousand four and a half or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► star ratings I'm just looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► link you sent ah yeah you have to guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► you have to show it to him to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► they want it you're asking me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► could show them the shirt yes can I show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► them that yeah you have to in the poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► right well I'm going to in the poll but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► I just wanted to be sure okay yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► mean you have to have to get an opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► yeah I've just put that into the into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► the chat room that is the forerunner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► sure in the shirt as opposed to just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► name that is the shirt that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► proposed I certainly would buy one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► these would you like it in the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► Oliver would you like it in the asphalt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► or is there something different to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► and by the way that is is that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► look like you as that idealized version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► man yeah well that's how I see you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► you go yeah no I like that I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► green color I also like great to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► one of those colleges fine so that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► the choice be that shirt or just along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► with the name or just the one that shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► or just the one with the name or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► about one with the name and your face on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► also an option those are all okay those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► are going to three options whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► people want got it check all right uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► Google Maps yeah we've gone through some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► past shows about Apple ditching google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► for their mapping trying to do mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► on their own that not workin out too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► well for them due to mapping data issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► even though the Apple maps application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► is actually pretty cool and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► was the question of will Google make its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► own Maps application for iOS and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► other question was will Apple allow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► a cranky reason they might decide no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► we want you out you can't have your map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► you know they make the rules owes it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the possibility so we have the answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► that at least Apple allows Google's map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► application to be on the phone it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► the default map application you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► change that or anything like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► you they did allow it to be sold on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► store and we also know the answer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► question of will Google deign to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► map application for iOS yes they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► and here it is and we kinda had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► answers those before every school said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► they were working on something and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► blah blah but so many questions have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► been answered by these distance of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► of this application and its presence on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► the store although there was a fun part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► in the beginning when it first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► wherever I'm like I can't download the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► store says this applications no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► available then you could spin out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► conspiracy theories about someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► accidentally approved it really apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► taking it down and they don't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► yet but it turns out it was just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► Apple doing it's wonderful job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► server-side software services sad ah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► what does this google maps app have yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► it has vector map tiles instead of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► bitmaps and which allows them to load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► faster seen on to load these giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► remedies has turn by turn directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► which it didn't have before but which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► Apple's new maps thing do have if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► driving directions it will you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► through the directions one turn at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► time for you instead of just showing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► the source and destination of the trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► between them one of the questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► this is all right presumably Google was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► particular things vector map tiles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► turn-by-turn directions before when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► Apple was in theory negotiating with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► Google saying you know hey Google we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► turn-by-turn directions of vector maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► we'd like to include those in our iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► built-in Maps application that uses your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► data can we get that data from you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► presumably Google was saying no and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► negotiation didn't work out I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► is all hearsay in rumors I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► either company has officially revealed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► the details of their negotiations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► the assumption is that Apple wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► vector maps and turn-by-turn directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► and Apple and Google could not come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► an agreement about them Google was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► saying you can have them but and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► would say we don't like that but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► eventually Apple just said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► we're going to make our own Maps thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► but no thanks we're gonna let this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► expire you're off the phone on iOS 6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► that's what happened and so that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► you know and then Google is at and puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► these things on the phone well if Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► was was trying to negotiate before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► saying you can't have these vector map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► and turn-by-turn directions and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► they turn around and just give them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► them give them to Apple for free because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► this is a free application how does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► make any sense suppose in Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► stupid not to give in to apples demands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► because then they'd still be the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► map data supplier ah but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► pretty easy to explain because it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► but part you can have vector maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► turn-by-turn directions but Google would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► say we want this stuff from you and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► information about users and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► Google puts out its map application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► they're much more willing to provide iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► turn-by-turn directions because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► also get you to sign into your Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► account from the map application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► collect all of your data about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► you're searching for and where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► going and all you're looking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► and that's presumably all the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► Apple was not willing to give to Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► when they were just the data provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► for the default Google max application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► that Apple wrote uh so even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► looks weird and strange how we arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► at this point it actually doesn't make I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► think a reasonable amount of sense given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► you no plausible assumptions about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► went on in the negotiations between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► so when you launch the Google Maps app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► it wants you to login with your Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► account which i did because i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► paranoia about that i like my google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► account and everything like that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► got a little check box so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► checked it whether you want to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► anonymous information for Google to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► them improve their services blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► blah the Gruber was complaining a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► about how the little check box they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► you to uncheck to say no don't send like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► anonymous information to Google you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► uncheck that thing but it's tiny check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► box and you know not only is it a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► check box but as Gruber pointed out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► things you wrote yesterday like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► doesn't really use check boxes they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► a slider on/off switches which way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► bigger to Google's credit if you are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► a Google mindset in you soon every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► single screen you see in a Google iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► application is a webview yourself that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► a webview that I'm sure that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► checkbox control style.css and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► surrounding the giant text block and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► label and then has the for attribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► equal to the idea of the checkbox and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► if I tap anywhere in this text is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► uncheck the text wasn't sure enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► if you tap anywhere in that gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► text block it will uncheck the checkbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► I know this because I set up we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► maps on multiple iOS devices and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► couldn't hit that stupid checkbox either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► and so I just went it said you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► this is google this is probably a label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► and sure enough it worked so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► trying to uncheck that checkbox remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► that you can tap the text area um so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► yeah I tried the app it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► Google Maps a little bit faster a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► bit nicer vector maps are nice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► turn-by-turn directions seem to work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► haven't used it to navigate anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► maybe I'm going out this weekend maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► I'll maybe I'll have a battle between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► navigation services I don't only got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► iphone so maybe I can do them both at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► once if you try to do apples driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► directions at the same times you do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► I when I won't pork I think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► work because the apple one gets like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► running the background stuff where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► the google one you'd have to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► foreground on that app so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► ah but anyway yeah it's a we live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► interesting times this is very good very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► interesting too and thinking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► mapping issue like everything I mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► last time we talked about maps but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► know there's only one world here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► it's just it seems like such a shame to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► have separate companies uh each pursuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► their own data about the one earth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► is the same for all of them all right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► wouldn't be much better if we could pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► our efforts and what I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► about is how these big technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► companies frequently have patent cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► slicing agreements or other intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► property cross licensing agreements like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► between Apple and Microsoft and Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► and AMD and all over the place with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► you you don't sue me and I don't see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► and we can use each other's intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► property right a map cross-licensing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► agreement this probably exists already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► too but we better if we had more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► those where they say okay I can use your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► map did and you can use mine and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► work together you know and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► collaboration between everybody to let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► all just make the map of this one planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► better together and that's kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► openstreetmap is I put a link to that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► the show notes I better description is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► free worldwide map created by people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► like you and at various times I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► know if this has ever been proven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► just rumored it seemed like Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► Google both used OpenStreetMap data to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3586">TS</a>]
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00:59:57 ◼ ► their map data back to openstreetmap or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3597">TS</a>]
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01:00:06 ◼ ► detailed constantly updated map of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3606">TS</a>]
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01:00:10 ◼ ► everything in the world doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3610">TS</a>]
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01:00:13 ◼ ► instead of having people do its thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3613">TS</a>]
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01:01:49 ◼ ► there are many options listen that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3709">TS</a>]
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01:03:07 ◼ ► things just obviously everybody but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3787">TS</a>]
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01:03:11 ◼ ► put up the poll go vote polls in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3791">TS</a>]
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01:03:15 ◼ ► hypercritical session the eight then go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► there and they vote how long do we get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► given to vote for I don't know I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3798">TS</a>]
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01:03:23 ◼ ► like we saw with the last one after like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► a couple hundred or thousand people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► enter like the percentages probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► won't change too much I'll give time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► people to download the show here about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► quart of the show notes both boss at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► least a week grant alright so next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► on Friday of next week on our 99th show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► this will be our pre Christmas show uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► people can at that time we will close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► the voting and we will we will allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► people to render their decision and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► will present it to you alright that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3834">TS</a>]
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01:03:58 ◼ ► have answered with 20 people advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3838">TS</a>]
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01:04:02 ◼ ► have already replied right now a 134 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► people have replied so already we and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3845">TS</a>]
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01:04:11 ◼ ► a fairly good start and when i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3851">TS</a>]
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01:04:19 ◼ ► not a scientific thing would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► guess the one that seems to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► let me go look at the survey so we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► see what the options were actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3867">TS</a>]
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01:04:35 ◼ ► things wrong with the shirt that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► would automatically be the winner but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► maybe not no I did wouldn't have guessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► that one I would guess just the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3881">TS</a>]
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01:04:57 ◼ ► they're neck and neck almost nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3897">TS</a>]
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01:05:18 ◼ ► have installed it my first I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► install did it work and then i installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► in home after i decided there was no so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► there's no stopping it uh this footless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► came out like two weeks ago or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► was it that long ago the two weeks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► seems less seems like such a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► ago seems like glass yeah so iTunes 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3936">TS</a>]
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01:05:43 ◼ ► we see a tease it was like when the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► mini was announced I think huh they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► oh and also we have as great new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► of itunes look at it it's all crazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► stuff like that and it will be out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► november and they like barely made it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► november because they really said on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3952">TS</a>]
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01:05:56 ◼ ► least two weeks ago uh here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► about itunes like if they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► come up with a major new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► itunes as they were presenting iTunes 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► it's not just an incremental change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► let's show you all these features look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► at all this crazy stuff right the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► for a big new ID version of itunes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► would have to address whatever is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► with the previous version of my trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► isn't and here's what i would say my top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► picks for what what was wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3980">TS</a>]
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01:06:25 ◼ ► how itunes 11 to us to address those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► concerns and then people have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► lists of what they think was wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3988">TS</a>]
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01:06:36 ◼ ► hear that a lot even though everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► hey iTunes maybe they all hated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► different reasons so here are my number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► reliability when it comes with dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► on iOS devices that's sounds very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► specific and pinky but i think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► you know it's one of the main things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► use this purpose thing for especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► the days before wireless sync and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► everything but even in the age after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► it's something there are some things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► still need to connect your iOS device to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► your Mac to do like if you just ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► your own video and you want to shove it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► on there I think it's still the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► to do that is through USB cable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► equipment like you have to use itunes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► do it I don't think there's any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► through i guess you can put it in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► dropbox and try to get it open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► anyway uh I still end up connecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► itunes laden and I have lots of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► devices oh I find myself there a lot uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► there are even stuff like my ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► shuffle but that's the only option if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► want to change what's on my ipod shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► which is where i listen to all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► podcast for the most part i I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► connect it sometimes I'm doing it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► day basically I'm connecting my ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► shop will do my thing using with iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► so that's that's a very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► function of itunes for me is dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► with iOS devices and everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► that experience is terrible terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► performance means that like doing almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► anything with my iOS devices not just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► shuffle but even the more advanced ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► like touches and iPads and stuff it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► hangs the entire UI like when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► syncing stopping to my shuffle or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► when it's just connecting or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► there's nothing else you can do i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► the beach ball or if I don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► beach ball I can click and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► respond is hanging the whole UI so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► that's that's performance ah plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► situations where i get a device stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► when it's sinking like it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► sinking forever and not actually on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► know never completes or it sinks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► really really really really long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► and it fails at the very end and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► like all i gotta try it again and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► sinks for a really really really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► time then fails at the end and if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► maddening another classic one is can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► sink because the sync operation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► already in progress you're like oh now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► do we need the hard reboot this iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► device do i need to restart itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► they're going to restart my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► credibly frustrating error message is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► about Oh couldn't sink x y&z but doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► explain to you why or just says these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► aren't compatible as this device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► that's not true because you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► because if you get the file in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► another way Oh terrible lot but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► lots of things that are unclear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► what will happen when you sync like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► want to know all right after if I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► this in here and I think that's what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► the outcome of this operation gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► and it's very unclear Oh what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► going to be especially when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► figuring out what to do about changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► you made on the device versus changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► that you made an itune have a reconciled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► with each other and no matter what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► picks it's gonna be wrong in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► like so I'm not so much something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► oh it didn't do the thing that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► because yeah it's never gonna do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► thing you want the problem is there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► many possible options but what the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► of the app is to at least show me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► even if it's gonna make decisions that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► don't agree with show me what the result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► of this operation will be don't make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► surprised to go oh my god it wiped out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► all these files or replace this version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► with an older or a newer version or did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► something else that I don't want is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► supposed to be doing that's that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► the second item is confusing you I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► not just for iowa's things by the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► application I the most confusing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► about the iTunes U I I the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► iTunes U is a lots of small pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► hidden state like I don't maybe program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► maybe non-programmers don't think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► programs this way but I'm thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► you know somewhere in memory isn't state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► information that itunes has about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► it's doing and that state is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► important to the way this program works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► but I can't see it because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► visual representation like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► pieces of state is oh the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► currently playing the track is currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► playing what is that thing part of is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► part of a playlist is it part of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► know a filtered list is it a part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► smart playlists a part of an album like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► when I hit next or previous what will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► that go to that information about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► this thing is playing itunes knows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► you can kind of figure it out by looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► at okay the little speaker icon is next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► to this thing and stuff like that ah one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► of the ways you can also figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► is if you are not you can't pause when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► the currently playing when a list that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► the currently playing thing is on is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► selected the the pause button change to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► a stop button so if you're someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► else in the application looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► something else when you were playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► song from a playlist you can't hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► little into the little pause button as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► the square on has the stop icon on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► I don't know why because this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► that's the same hole you that uses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► let you know that if you were to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► that button now we're just gonna stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► what we were doing and do a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► we're not going to pause the track in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► progress but when Yuri selects a your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► playlist that the thing was playing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► I was like okay now if you hit it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► just pausing in that playlist and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► not gonna lose your place or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► that's terrible way to express that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► state it's a terrible you I I hate it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► hate having to go back and select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► something so i can find the pause button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► so i can actually use the pause button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► to pause the thing the status area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► itunes that little like fake LCD display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► is supposed to I guess look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► stereo component system that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► kids these days probably don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► what the hell that is but I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► what it's supposed to look like or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► suppose look like a car stereo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► whatever it is uh it's not so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► it's skeuomorphic trying to look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► crappy low contrast LCD display although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► that I think is dumb because why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► you intentionally make something low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► contrast if they've changed our mind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► that a few times to like is it supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► to hug you I'll see the years it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► grayish text or whatever but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► the worst part about the worst part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► about it is that it's just one display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► for the whole application so what even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► when multiple things are happening at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► the same time that display shows like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► one of them or cycles between them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► lets you cycle between them like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► you're downloading podcast at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► time you're playing a song at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► time an iOS device is sinking and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► want to know what the progress of any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► those things are I hope the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► stupid display showing what you want if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► not fight with it to try figure out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► know or change your view or click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► something different the sidebar to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► that one stupid display show what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► doing uh it's like this is a type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► thing where they sailed we're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► visual simplification it's one window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► application isn't that simple you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► simplify by merely changing your status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► display to just be one window unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► also change it to be that only one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► could be happening at the time or fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► all your status in that window or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► something but they don't do either one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► of those things uh an iCloud just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► for all the benefits that have brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► over mold me just as even more weirdness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► on top of this all i have a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► show notes for an arse article called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► itunes through the ages that takes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► back through the history of itunes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► maybe you don't didn't live through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► so you don't know what I things used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► be like we can look at how it's changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► over this is a neat yeah we had this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► the frequency and like a week or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► going and it's it has changed if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► some things that have not changed at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► and there's other things that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► that it's weird because this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► application that really has provided the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► same functionality at its core but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► they've added so much other stuff on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► uncannily the same and I call it iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► here at least it's like it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► status icon that broke the camel's back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► or it's like all right itunes they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► it anymore so you can see it in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► line they kept adding more stuff you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► do more stuff and more stuff and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► iOS devices and we have this and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► podcasts and we have all the stuff then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► and now is like the line you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► have a link to the store we have a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► to paying a little in a way uh like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► line items in listview just got any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► and more things and now we've got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► crazy cloud thing that can be in seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► different modes uh you know where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► this track and what happened to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► original track and and why couldn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► be matched and what does matched mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► and like it's just too much now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► there's just too much information that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► they need to convey on top of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► interface which was just like used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► simple you know uh when it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► a list of tracks and some metadata but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► now there's like a million things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► there and iCloud just adds another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► variable to all the other variables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► another huge set of functionalities it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► just too much and now it admittedly sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► in iCloud stuff like that these are hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► you I problems I'm saying oh it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► easy they should obviously do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► with the obvious solution it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► obvious how to fix all these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► designed in the modern era and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► designed in an age when CD ripping was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► like the main activity yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► application it was like wut rip urn mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► remember hey good I mean you can rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► your cds alright that was like the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► that was a big selling point and for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► refreshingly simple and direct the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► way you know had a reasonably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► option you'd rip your cds to show them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► up but like that's what the itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► design is centered around and it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► changed since when despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► what we do with itunes has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► radically ah so if you're going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► you know iTunes 11 you know a big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► from the past I would want iTunes 11 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► address these are the concerns that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► wanted to address I wanted to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► have better performance and reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► have less confusing user interface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► particularly be centered around like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► things we do with it now like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► cloud and roll i use podcasting maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► thing but like acknowledge what we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► now and de-emphasize the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► don't do as much and like and build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► UI around that don't just say okay we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► gonna hide that option but just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► rethink the UI like you if itunes didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► exist and you had to make an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► that did these things now what would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► make it look like ah so you know I turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► 11 chance for a fresh start ah but know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► that we did not get a fresh start uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► which is a shame so the performance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► iTunes 11 still terrible still can sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► established that maybe is it worse do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► you think it's worse than the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► version mmm some people have been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► like Oh iTunes 11 is doing stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► the previous version never did but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► know but certainly it's not like oh now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► finally it feels so much faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► snappier and more responsive that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► the case at all no it's that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► improvement I'm just I'm just struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► whether I would say that it's worse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► doesn't seem to feel worse for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► seemed but see there are all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► little things that happen now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► visually little visual things like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► you you know when you switch between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► different sections there's little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► animations and things that sort of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► don't know it's I think it's slower or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► even just playing some people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► like there were you know I think Daniel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► John could just tweeted today that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► was typing and all of a sudden typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► application he was typing in and he quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4618">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► itunes and it got fixed no you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► that's actually it's interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► you mention that because i have noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► that too where i'll be typing in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► application just the way he described it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► because i saw this his tweet too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► at first i thought well I'm sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► not that but now I'm thinking maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► maybe it is something else going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► it'll like capture it'll capture the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► input and then it'll sort of release it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► later now I mean that could be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► know coincident point point zero version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► tweaks and Sylvia but certainly is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► big departure right and you know same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► thing still hangs when you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► anything with an iOS device which just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► it makes the application feel old like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► the modern OS 10 applications Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► developers to not block the main thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► of the user interface to keep accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► blocking device I owe on the main thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► like that's the whole reason grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► central dispatch exists like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► there's no reason for it right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► makes a terrible user experience cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► when i plug in my ipod shuffle as I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► every single day I know that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► bother click don't even bother trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► click anything else in itunes beach ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► don't go to a different playlists don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► take a look at what podcasts have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► down don't go try to refresh them just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► once you plug that thing in and I tune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► starts mounting it or you change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► tracks on a river the whole thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► blocked well it looks like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► application hangs and it feels gross it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► feels like an old application the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► that I treated about that still galls me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► and people are asking about why's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► Preferences dialog is still at modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► people are asking what what do you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► like how often use the press that alot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► of your boxes that is that affecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► your usage of itunes but in before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► get to that but other people ask is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► the hell does at modal mean it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► little sidebar on that for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► wondering what a modality and user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► interface means so a mode is a state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► the user interface ah where it's focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► on a particular activity so the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► interface changes in such a way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► icon now you're going to do this and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► the user interface will change to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► mode where you're doing whatever this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► and and modes are generally considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► user unfriendly and the reason they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► considered unfriendly is because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► don't want Peter users to be stuck in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► mode because you have an interface that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► changes mode and says okay you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► like to do X now we're in the X mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► that sounds fine it's like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► great this the software is tailoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► itself to this one thing that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► do until you decide oh actually I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► to do something else and if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► do something else now you have to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► out how to get out of the mode you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► and then go into the other mode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► whatever and get it you don't you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► getting out of a mode can be frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► if you're in a mode and you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► do something else you want to just do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► you don't be like oh how do I get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► this mode ah that that's why they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► considered unfriendly a great example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► software with modes is everyone's friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► VI the UNIX text editor he has famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► insert mode and command mode which if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► you describe this to a modern computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► user sounds crazy and I would agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► modern computers you're in this class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► that is crazy ah insert mode is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► get the type stuff like what why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► there be a mode in a text editor where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► you don't get to type stuff in insert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► mode when you press the letter a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► I'll letter A appear like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► typing and and that's the way everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► wants to text editor to work like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► typing something when I type the letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► A I want the letter A to appear but VI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► also has command mode where when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► type things it doesn't interpret them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► a request for you to put that text into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► the document it interprets it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► command VI users will tell you this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► awesome because then you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► commands that are a single key press so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► if you you know Oh dollar sign has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► shift or whatever but if you press uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► you know I don't know if top of my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► which one is down kay-kay down yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► let's get Nadia if you press the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► button when in command mode it will move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► the cursor down the line if you press a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► dollar Simon and command moto move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► cursor to the end of the line uh all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► your key presses are interpreted as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► commands and that's a mode because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► same key press in a different mode does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► a different thing uh and you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► people who are computer nerds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► excavating are you wait a minute jay is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► down k is out is there's now an item I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► not obviously I just left I was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► to run ages lap JS down k is up Ellis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► right hey its beginning of wine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► maybe that's zero i don't know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► obviously do not use me i know enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► get into you I I think they get into VI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► edit a document in ghetto I can I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► beginning and save exit without saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► like VI survival good this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► those things where are the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► learned in VI including like how to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► around the screen and a little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► insert in front of the line n to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► line I don't know what any of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► if I was asked it's become muscle memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► but i know very like i did this VIP code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► thing like the screencast and for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► the week after that I was like the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► of VI remember everything I was using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► and then like after that I forgot it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► and I'm back to like the five basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► things that I remembered in 1994 when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► first learned a is a pen not beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► Alonso is a hand and I is insert wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► anyway the key breakthrough for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► VI was like I would get into the eye and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► I didn't want to learn I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► know what I'm like just giving it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► this thing but if you don't know the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► command for a pen you can get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► situations where you can't do what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► want to do like I can't get to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► of this line when I go to the end of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► won't let me move the cursor to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► right so I can't you know you get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► to go in insert mode but then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► putting the thing before so you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► know a pen to get the maddening I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► like modes I do not like VI yes for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► people asking chat room I mean Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► person uh I was her a while that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► the only time I've ever in Lisp in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► life but you know the whole nine yards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► the Maxis is my friend and even Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► you get into them open you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► forget mini buffer and emacs if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► you know I'll under something else now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► sorry that command is not valid in too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► many buffer and DBP but it beeps at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► and you're frustrated and even the Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► has modes uh yeah modes are generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► considered not friendly because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► you don't want people to be stuck there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► they want I want to do something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► something else because that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► else you wanted to do is interpret it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► differently in this mode oh well if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► want to do something else you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► get out of this mode I hope you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► to exit this mode ah so modes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► friendly now a modal window in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► of a graphical user interface on modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► application into a particular mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► that mode is usually deal with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► window now please ah and you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► anything else in the user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► until that window is dealt with lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► user interface on the Mac used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► modal back in you know the 80s and 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► for example open save dialog box used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► be modal and you went hit commando to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► anything in the rest of the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► until you either decided to open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► document or hit cancel that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► we called app modal where the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► application is blocked by this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► window that's up on the screen back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► the old old days the whole application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► was system modal like when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► running an application you couldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► see the finder I wasn't running anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► you you know it was so at modal was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► system a little back in those days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► basically because you couldn't run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► multiple applications at once when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► launch an application the finder was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► application and so when you hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► commando to open a document you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► use the rest of mac paint or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► is you were using until you've dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► couldn't do anything else because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► was the only thing that was running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► because the thing had 128 kilobytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► RAM people all right uh gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► modality has been reduced in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► operating system once you could run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► multiple applications at once there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► a distinction between system modal a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► modal a system modal dialog box or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► window would stop you from using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► application but you could switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► another running application and use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► in system modal dialog box you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► do anything until you dealt with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► dialog box couldn't change another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► application couldn't touch anything its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► system modal huh all those things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► considered unfriendly because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► want to be blocked from doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5098">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► you're doing by this stupid window that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► wants you to deal with it uh it in OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► in the modern era of course you can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► multiple applications and everything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► way OS 10 application should work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► mostly do is that almost nothing should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► be mobile so you have tons of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► running at once you can switch freely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► between them open save doesn't block the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► entire application it's not at modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► anymore and good applications you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► have multiple occurrences of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► running at once because they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► sheets you know if you go to text edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► or whatever and hit open or save uh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► open and open seven dollar box but save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► or whatever you can have them attach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► sheets to to our I'm in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► saving this document but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► decided where I'm gonna save it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► gonna work on this one now okay i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► gonna try to save this one but i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► decided where i'm going to save it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► can have to save sheets attach a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► different documents still go to a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► document within the same application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► work on it that's the advantage from not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► being modal like your whole application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► your whole work in TextEdit is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► blocked because you haven't decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► make a decision about where you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► save this thing yet you can just have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► stew over there of course autosave puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► more wrinkles into this you can read my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► mountain mind review for more on that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► you want but in general reduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► modes is how we make progress because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► don't ever want to be trapped in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► things those you know it's appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► for some of these actions to block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► something like you can't do any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► work on this document until you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► where you're going to save it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► don't want to say but now he canceled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► right that's appropriate but it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► only block of that document that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► reducing modality because previously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► open say a dog a box would block the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► whole app and now it was just linked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► that one document and so you could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► it off to the side uh preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► getting back the getting closer back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► contract iTunes thinks preferences on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► iOS 10 are not only supposed to be non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► at modal like you should be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► all their stuff on the application when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► dialogue is on the screen but ideally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► they should also be live updating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► haven't looked at the human interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► guidelines to see if they spell this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► or actually recommend against it but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► practice most of the mac applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► that I like and that are good both from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► Apple and other places when possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► they make it so when you change a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► setting in preferences if that setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► changes something like visual in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► application you can see that change so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► you can have the preferences when to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► open and hit some checkbox that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► like you know hide or show bookmarks bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► something sorry I don't know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► actually a case where it's live updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► I haven't done in a while but ideally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► you shouldn't even have to you know open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► preferences change settings and it save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► or okay or whatever and then those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► settings take place you should be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► to see them while you're fiddling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► the preference yes and if you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► to deal with apartment that's then fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► don't click in a different window in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► application preferences window is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► open but you still use the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► preferences and then open a new browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► window and browse for a wild and go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► to the Preferences window and stuff uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► hope this is true I'm just assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► because that seems like the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► Preferences window open right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► able to go to different windows two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► whatsoever and there there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► there's a little window and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► command tilde around and get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► change it whatever I'd like it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► apt modal it is not system modal is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► a window I like any other window and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► can put a deal with it or not deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► it and that's the way preferences is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► supposed to work and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► iTunes preferences window is app modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► like that is such a throwback to the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► know it highlights iTunes origin as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► classic mac OS application which is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► thing you'll be young people might see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► when they look at that iTunes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► the ages yes it started out as a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► mac OS application because Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► didn't exist yet uh that was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► that those applications to do all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► not like you know pulling down menus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► it's another big one it has more to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► with pre-emptive versus cooperative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► multitasking about you when you pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► down a menu from the menu bar in classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► Mac OS uh nothing else could happen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► the system menu was down and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► everything would stop frozen yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► they would they tried that you know okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► everything stops except audio keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► playing everything stops itself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► quicktime keeps playing or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► it was incredibly limiting all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► things they've been trying to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► and so having a preference dialog box in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► have to call flagship application for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► Apple the company given how it interacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► with iOS devices and the itunes store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► and everything when you pull the purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► of dialog box the entire rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► application is blocked makes no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► except once you realize that itunes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► an application originally developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► classic mac OS that has been slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► changed over the years all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► unfriendliness that's why that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► this thing is important because like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► I need if I want to know like have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► finally turned the corner on iTunes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► this like really an all-new and iTunes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► just go to that person style I box if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► it's still at modal then they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► preferences dialog box and I to an 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► still at modal they have not turned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► corner now so the upshot in itunes love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► performance and reliability have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► been fixed whether they got worse not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► certainly have not been fixed the UI has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► not been rethought in light of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► what we currently use it with they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► they've added to the UI and they tweak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► the UI but it has not been rethought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► they've added even more different hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► state for like you know what the up next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► list is attached to the thing and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► you're searching and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► the hidden side bar by default and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► you know and having figured out ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► do certain things with the old user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► interface I now have to figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► to do those same things within your user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► interface up but you know that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► you do I knew how to use this old one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► didn't make any sense but I figured it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► out I know I knew when I got to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► it out it again but there's no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► benefit to figure out the new one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► there's nothing good about the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► program that makes it worthwhile for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► to learn this new way of doing except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► for the fact that like look you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► soft fur up these gonna keep insisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► that I updated so I better just bite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► bullet and learn it so I give itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► loving a big thumbs down it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► they're trying to do something with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► i'm not saying i had to keep it the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► one I certainly didn't like the 0 1 i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► not gonna say the old one was perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► you shouldn't change it i just i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► see performance and reliability address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► that's like my number-one and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► rethink the you i don't just add to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► tweak it or fiddle that maybe they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► this is rethinking but it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► it's adding more confusion on top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► way I think you know even if you go like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► okay i won't i won't show the sidebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► I'll try to use it the way I want it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► not enough of rethinking they didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► far enough uh they added too much cruft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► on top of the stuff that was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► so thumbs down boo yeah and if the bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► are bugs describing that's like I mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► use the mini player and the mini player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► has this bug where every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► it will decide to show the album art and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► then draw like the previous track button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► right on top of the album art when many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► players in the smallest smallest mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► you can get it you know shrink it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► as small as you can get it horizontally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► so it's very very small every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► while sigh i would like to display the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► album art underneath the previous track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► button it's just a bug it's an ugly bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► but it's like didn't these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► like if you use them any player for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► single day you will see that bug and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► it's it doesn't make me think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► you know high quality software and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► knew like when iTunes they says going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► come out and they didn't mention again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► first when they announced it instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► it's gonna be out in November right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► application that's in trouble because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► they would like to have announced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► shipping that day but they can't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► it's not ready yet and I immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► thought this is not going to be ready in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► November either it's gonna be buggy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► it's gonna be a mess and here we have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► so they obviously didn't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► time right now it's time to do what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► wanted or even enough time to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5526">TS</a>]
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01:33:30 ◼ ► think somewhere in Canada speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► things to sell did you hit the limit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► this survey I hit your limit and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► went back and I used my old my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► friends woo foo where I do all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► feedback forms and everything else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► went to my old friends at whoa foo and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► made a brand the same report brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► report now with no limits because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► like a super deluxe professional account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► with woo foo and I should have just made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► it their first but you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► thought i would be kind and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5638">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► that I would use the same report survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► thing that you used when you did your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► journey survey I worked well for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► journey was unlimited when I did it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► don't know maybe they knew it was me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► they limited it but it was limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► apparently capped at 150 users and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► hit 100 votes and we hit 150 almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► immediately and that's why and so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► back over to woo foo and put it up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► whoa foo and now i'm looking at looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► listening to this go go back and vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► again well your first vote does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► count well you can add those votes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► the total no all right well I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► gonna say you can make them check boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► instead of ritual because some people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► a chat room were saying they were two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► them but I'm not good do too I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► gonna do what I hear if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► wrestle control away from from what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► know having to do one then I will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► do want one it's fine well some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► people have said they want mugs would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► you would you do a mug uh yeah same same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► list of graphics probably right okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► I'm gonna do I we do one design no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► that's all we're gonna do cuz it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► be a different design for the shirt in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► the mug if you you know whatever see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► for the mug I would have your face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► underneath it I would just have it say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► like an animal had he just laughed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► the background so that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► thumbs up i don't know i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► what you picked a shirt i'll pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► mug may I listen that may I license your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► likeness and then hypercritical name if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► you don't agree with what I'm doing Kyle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► license and you'll just get a royalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► I'm not there anything I will talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► this after all right all right all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► but right now I just want to quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► update 47.3 7% want just hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► 39.4 7% want Syracuse avatar plus there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► are many things wrong with this shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► hypercritical as you anticipated is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► reporting that's like the Ralph Nader of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► this thing it's a who is it pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► votes from I think it's pronounced nadir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► all right uh final I guess final my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► final thing last time like ever Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► in the news not the last topic ever be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► topic I like you almost let it go no ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► this this is also old news I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► from a week ago or so on the 11th yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► that's what this link says Tim Cook was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► interviewed well that what was the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► of that show Rock Center radisson Ryan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► Williams uh which is an American TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► program and it was also a Business Week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► interview I which was thought it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► of the same ground cover but a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► Williams in a video with some silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► things in it and I watched both these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► things and read the interview they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► video interviews two parts so I'll be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► the show notes and so first thing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► about Tim Cook being in the news is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► it's not the steve jobs never did things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► like this cuz he did he did publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► unlike these same news shows and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► like when a new product was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► that have some little segment that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► talked to steve jobs in an apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► and he'd be telling you how this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5825">TS</a>]
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01:37:10 ◼ ► he may be be talking about the stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► themselves and saying we're opening the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► store like he would do news segments for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► the national news but these these type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► of things uh but in general when he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► stuff like that he was acting as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► spokesman for the company to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► a new product like it was it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► to me that it was more on on apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► terms like we are using you national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► media to promote the product that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► just created uh and we'll talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► for a couple of segments on camera or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► interview to talk about the product or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► whatever especially video like is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► steve jobs would be you can get quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► from him maybe you know if you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► wall street journal in new york times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► and stuff like that uh but this one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► more than like cuz apple didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► product to announce like yes they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► previous announcements that were close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► to the date but it wasn't like this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► a promotional campaign for the ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► or anything like that this was more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► we're gonna get to talk to Tim Cook that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► got like personally this guy we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► it's just you know Tim Cook's coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► party to the national media yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► this is not about Apple this is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► this guy and we're gonna talk to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► we're gonna interview him it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► Barbara Walters interview where he tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► to you know barber also tries to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► Tim Cook cry right it's not bad but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► was just close it was much closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► that than any Steve Jobs thing had come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► in like the modern you know Apple error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► it sure people wanted to talk to Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► Jobs my stuff all the time and close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► really got to that was like the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► things D things where he'd sit down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► talk to Walt Mossberg when I won but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► even then he was still not to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► Apple but this is like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► learning about this Tim Cook fellow what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► makes him tick and of course Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► was there to talk about let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► the company Apple and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► but it was much you know much more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► personal interview then than expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► and was not on Tim Cook's terms it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► almost as if you get the feeling that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► this was something that either apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► Tim Cook are both felt like they needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► to do to help shore up apples image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► address concerns about it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► kind of a a goodwill tour for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► saying you know there may have been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► bad things in the press recently about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► the map stuff and in the past we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► stuff about the China labor stuff where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► he talked to the press again at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► point it was like not damage control but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► there was a certain angle to it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► okay we'll give you access to this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► who is fairly private and you could talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► to him for an extended period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► about whatever you want and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► I'll just try to turn to apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► whatever and we'll use that opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► to try to change some negative images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► about us and this you know this lets Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► Cook sort of start to better define his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► era same thing with the exec shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► like when we had the show we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► shuffle and getting rid of Forrestal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► brown and stuff like that like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► internally now here's the outward-facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► manifestation of that Here I am Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► i'm talking to you the American people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► about Apple I'm going to tell you what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► think is great about us i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► tell you that I'm gonna say things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► we screwed up on maps and be honest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► up front like it's like exchanging axe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► personal access to the the news media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► and what Apple gets out of it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► opportunity to sort of explain itself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► the world which ah this I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► used to happen more when Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► first came back and he had to say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► apples not going out of business right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► why then nobody cared back then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► let go some some of the Steve Jobs guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► wants to talk about Apple whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► now like all eyes are on Apple and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► environment now if you are listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► the show we're following apple news it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► was nothing we almost nothing in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► Tim Cook interviews that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► already know like we'd heard all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► stuff before both direct quotes from him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► and him on stage but if you don't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► the Apple news is the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► even knew that Tim Cook was the CEO of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► Apple when you saw it on you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► rockecenter show and Brian Williams said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► oh I didn't know that two runs applebees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► days right so it really is not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► to us it's talking to the mass market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► doesn't really sing so it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► that Tim Cook just going over the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► territory we've heard him go over before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► ah but speaking of that territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► there's a few good links on that topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► that came out fairly recently one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► from Michael op AK rands who has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► rands in repose website I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► weren't supposed to reveal his true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► identity you can google for I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► thought it was explode I thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► weren't supposed to revealing he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► Wikipedia page for crying Alice thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► was a secret I'm saying it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► secret how can it be a secretive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► gonna be a secret very secretive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► actually under ran so you do like Wicca [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► yet zoe has a book out there too yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► it's not a secret he's out it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► secret at one time I think oh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► remember when I change but anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► title of this essay on his blog is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► called innovation is a fight uh and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► addressing like the executive shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► and his views on it and here's a excerpt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► from the bottom but I he's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► out you know how you know the title says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► double innovation is a fight and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► as someone who spends much of his time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► figure out how to get teams to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► together the premium on placing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► volatility might seem odd I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► greatly from having a large table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► operational team that consistently in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► steadily gets a word that I can't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► they are done but I also believe that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► order to maintain its edge Apple needs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► group of disruptors love him or hate him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► Scott's forestall departure makes abba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► cut Scott forrestal's departure makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► apple a more stable company I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► that's how it begins it meaning like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► apples fall like so he's saying like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► need some sort of amount of internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► conflict and disruption to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► innovating and whether you like Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► Forstall or not he surely was causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► internal tension and conflict you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► and that is saying this as I is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► necessary component of innovation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► you can't you know he says it might make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► for a more stable company and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► read that I thought of like the old saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► that stable you know in biology is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► euphemism for dead because anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► that's stable anything it's not changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► might as well be dead and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► danger like you know what's gonna bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► decisions are just going to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► too much stability and conservatism so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► by removing Forrestal which was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► wild card and the source of tension and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► drama and everything perhaps that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► apple weaker because you need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► minimum amount of tension inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► counterpoint to that is their article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► entitled for Apple change could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► good sign and he links to the reins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► repose thing which he's providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► counterpoint to and he says this about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► after like nothing this is when I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► heard word of forestalls departure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► first thing I thought of was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► Steve Jobs himself said and he gives a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► commencement address in 2005 it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► bit death is very likely the single best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► invention of life it's life's change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► agent it clears out the old to make way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► for the new right now the new is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► he's talking to the audience and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► commencement address but someday not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► long from now you'll be gradually become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► the old and be cleared away sorry to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► dramatic but it's quite true hmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► Snell's take on it is that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► know things change you can't another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► form of stability is keeping the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► crew with same tensions over a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► period of time and like you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► though doesn't sound like stability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► because its fault on everything it oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► changing being afraid to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► radical change in personnel is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► way that you can end up stagnating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► you know death is the single best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► invention of life saying you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► something to come along and clear out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► the old you know Steve Jobs is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► talking about himself there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► like some day I'm going to die in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► someone else's got to take you over in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► the same way you can't have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► executive team forever uh it's good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► have some kind of turnover and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► in this case it wasn't death but firing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► but it's in the form of corporate death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► that's a single best invention of apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► corporate life that they need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► some turnover so uh I'm not gonna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► down on one side or the other I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6298">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► both of these points are equally valid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► think I personally don't know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► about what's going on inside Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► know was this good or bad I'm inclined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► to side with Jason overall given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► imperfect information because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► four Sol's been there for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► and played a significant role and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► disruption internally are true it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► be difficult for me to imagine a radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► internal change happening when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► still there and demanding to do exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► the same things that he wanted to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► if he wants to have his little kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► and not collaborate and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► collaboration or having Silas is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► right thing to do clearly apples been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► doing it one way for a long time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► think it's good to try a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► and if he was standing in the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► trying that different way then he needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► to go that's what Tim Cook said his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► interview when asked about force tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► and proud he you know deflected as usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► and then said I've always believed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► collaboration i wish i had a Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► impression I can't I don't have a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► one does yet yeah he's is it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Georgia or something or he's from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► south he's got a southern accent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► it's very tamp down anywhere says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► collaboration and it's not like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► thing for me and you know we think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► is gonna help us you know that the hint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► is like he was not a team player he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► not willing to collaborate or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► he come out and say this but this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► implication uh and him saying it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► new thing is kind of like saying look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► when I took over I wanted everyone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► collaborate and I was already frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► with the fact that these guys couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► collaborate cuz they were fighting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► each other but I gave it a try but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► just couldn't work it out you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► this is the last straw and I said he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► to go so that's what it came down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► seems like healthy dynamic to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► like he was willing to it was wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► everybody and putting a stamp and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► everything this is the egomaniac but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► the same time he's like look I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► different philosophy about these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs did and the way I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► things to work is more collaborative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► if this guys getting in the way then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► he's got to go and then brow it which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► didn't address at all in the interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► which is kind of a shame the exhalation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► sure that would have been good old Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► Jobs explanation that we've heard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► past shows what can I say I hired the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► wrong guy yep you did and then you fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► them Tim so I guess it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► nothing but next time don't hire the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► wrong guy maybe and the final the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► new pieces of information I really new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► but like a criminology or is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► thing where you're you're hanging on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► every word that uh you read that read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► the papers and uh what does criminology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► is is that where you're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► communications between people and soviet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► russia trying to figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► really going on based on these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► subtle moves that you see in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► internal memos that's why i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► it's hold on to me i'm opening it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► wikipedia okay criminology is a study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► especially those the Soviet Union terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► some overlap with Soviet ology which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► refers to the study of Soviet society as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► a whole the term is named after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► Kremlin seat of today's Russian and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► commentary experts who specialize in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► study of criminology it's sometimes used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► sweepingly to describe Western scholars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► who research issues of where specialize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► in Russian or Soviet law pizza box got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► it in the chat room people in standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► next to Stalin where you'd see like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► was standing next to Stalin and how in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► favor they were and like the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► picture there are four guys away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► you're like oh it must have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► falling out there like that reality so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► we're seemingly insignificant details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► but they're all we have to go on and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► hang on them and so this one is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► significant information out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► interviews when asked about television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► Tim Cook said we haven't this is an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► of intent quote intense interest unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► for Apple uh and why does that make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► difference housing he said the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► thing 50 times all but he used slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► different words this time he said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► is an area we're looking into this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► area that's important to us now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► have intense interest which is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► than you know that's that's why i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► thinking criminology cuz like all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► said intense interest that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► you know they are slowly slowly ramping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► up the rhetoric on television of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► like oh we're kind of looking into it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► we're very interested in this area now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► the interest is intense then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► intense it's not just regular interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► and so uh yeah we don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► they're doing TV but they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► backing off on the rhetoric and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► not dropping it there in fact cranking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► it up still no actual information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► what like they're gonna do or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► like that but uh there you have it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► don't have in mind to recap the TV thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► you know the very first show we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► about television it's fitting towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► the end we're gonna talk about it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► but back in two thousand eight at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► conference steve jobs in one of his rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► extended introducing out with walt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► burning took questions in the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► too and some of the audience asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► television and he gave an answer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► basically said and in most the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► direct manner you could possibly imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► steve jobs ever saying anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► future apple products is that Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► not want to make the omnivorous box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► I want right the omnivorous box would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► a box that apple would make that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► sit in front of all the other crap you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► have in your house and sort of unify it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► like that box would figure out okay I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► figure out what kind of cable you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► and if you have a DVR and and of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► premium channels you get if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► pay-per-view and I'll just unify it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► together and I'll you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► worry about old ugly detail I'll figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► it all out and I'll provide you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► beautiful simplified Apple interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► your entire world and we will do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► super duper hard work to figure out all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► this crap and yes I know everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► different cable services everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► different boxes and different DVRs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► different televisions and different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► their subscribe to netflix are not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► competently made hardware not like TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► competently made software again not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► Devo with a beautiful Apple interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► they would make sense of the rat's nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► of crap thats hanging off of my TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► above that Steve Jobs said no we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► interested in making that box it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► loser you can't make money on it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► like you know it's a sucker's bet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► can't actually be done competently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► Google TV on google said neyo hand will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► try to do that in google TV is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► omnivorous box and mostly failing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► maybe Steve Jobs just write that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► it seems tempting wife we can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► thing or be beautiful really that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► the way to do it so uh I know Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► isn't running the company anymore but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► that was apples most clearly stated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► position on televisions like we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► going to do that thing even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► want it doesn't matter apple says nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► we're not doing that so if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► gonna be another layer it was not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► be another thing you put in front of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► the crap that's already there it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► be something that replaces or removes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► her obviates the need for one or more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► the other stupid layers that are dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► with TV and so that's what we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► been waiting for like you put that stake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► in the ground we said okay well it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► gonna be that so it's got to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► take one of those things existing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► attached to TV and make it so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► need that anymore ah and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► hard to do due to the current business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► models like the demands of content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► owners and the contours have deals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► the various networks oh brother you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► are allowed their content to appear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► of course the infrastructure owners that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► the cable companies that you want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► our wires you know it's our rules and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► they have deals with the content owners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► but for packages and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► it's it's a big morass and so we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► waking for Apple to break through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► big tangle of crap with a compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► infrastructure deal or both and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► a technology problem it is a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► problem and so that's why Tim Cook has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► mostly just been talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► stuff because they are they ship the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► Apple TV and stuff like that of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► thing holding them back is not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► inability to make some amazing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► hardware device or anything about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► totally all those business deals all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► entrenched interests and all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► they own cuz cable companies you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► have wires going to our houses an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► doesn't and you know the the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► owners have television shows that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► want to watch an apple doesn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► they don't make TV shows and so how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► Apple do anything in this area then not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► gonna make the omnivorous boxes gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► stand in front of those guys and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► want to replace them or supplant them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► wedge themselves into their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► model and they don't like it so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► continued to wait 100 shows have gone by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► and no progress has been made in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► area for the people who think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► everything Apple you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► nothing new from apple they made their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► phone they made their tablet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► they made a new operating system there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► nothing new it's gonna come from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► this I don't know this is gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► last one but this is surely the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► in a hundred shows hypercritical almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► a hundred shows it has not happened yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► shame but it's an area of intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► interested but you're on you're on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► with this when they you you it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► uncharacteristically optimistic well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► they keep cranking up there the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► statements like what why keep you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► that's not the apples way to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► like what when the ipad was coming they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► didn't hint for like three years or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► think we're really looking into tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► we have an intense interest in in touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► screen devices bigger than an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► like they didn't do that everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► thought they were gonna make a tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► any time you asked Apple by the tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► they would say we don't comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► future products right but with a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► thing it's like we're totally looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► into that area we're really interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► in TV are you making something then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► say oh we can't tell you anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► interested in TV yeah you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► that's what's interesting is how this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► so different from you know before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► days of doing anything with iPhones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► know they were very anti iPhones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► then oh no one wants to read on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► all of the all of the stuff that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► used to say to whether that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► they believed no we know now that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► what they believed it wasn't throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► them off the scent like you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► about and and now they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► saying yeah we're interested in this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► you wonder how far off are we from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► real revolution in TV because listen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► you know that if I didn't believe and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► think you probably agree with me cuz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► know how many podcasts you listen to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► I believe that this is the future of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► way that people will consume their audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► stuff body i believe it's podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► it's it's certainly not somebody's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► to turn on a radio and tuna dial that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► not the future of anything the future is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► people listening to the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► interesting to them when they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► to listen to those things wherever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► happen to be that's that's the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6895">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► the way people listen and people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► always listen to audio stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► it's a wonderful secondary activity you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► can listen while you're walking your dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► or at the gym you can listen to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► your roommate is watching something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► TV that's stupid you can listen to while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► you're falling asleep whatever while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► you're working and so the people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► always listen to audio stuff and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► is the big thing that's the big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► that's going to really change what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► changed about radio not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► delivery mechanism in in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► physical sense and that we still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► things that are plugged into a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► that are plugged in to our ears like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► that that's pretty much been that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► for since the Walkman and that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► isn't going to change that much but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► we listen to what we listen to has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► changed what's next for the TV we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► going to sit and look in front and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► at some box it's going to have a moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► picture on in some sound yes we all DVR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► different times but it has to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► the delivery mechanism from whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6957">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► those people who create stuff to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► people like us who they and if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► about how much content is independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► that somebody like you John listens to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► think most of what you listen to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► relatively independent content in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► it comes from individuals or small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► companies like mine who make audio stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► as opposed to you're not like going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► downloading chose from NBC is my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► you may be from like Public Radio but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► not from Universal you know what I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► that was the point I was gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► though like on that we're even audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► we're in this transitional phase it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► uncomfortable NPR is a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► because you're right like I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► even when I listen to NPR it's not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► the radio like I'm downloading it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► podcast but those NPR things could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► exist if it weren't for the pledge drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► that runs on the terrestrial radio that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► suckers who don't know about podcasts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► through on their way to home to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► from work and get guilted into like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► it wasn't for the National unskillful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► you know terrestrial radio broadcast of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► pledge drives an NPR they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7018">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► afford to pay for the show's I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► listen to on my podcast and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► stuck halfway in between to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► they have it they don't have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► business model that supports them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► have the old one and then they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► new way and when all those people listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► to terrestrial radio die like who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► gonna you know they can have pledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► drives on the podcast you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► weird yeah I don't I don't but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► the real the real question is how do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► change this but when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► that independent content I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► channels for people making independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► video content the way that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► four audio I mean look at look at iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► as a really good example I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► other video podcasts but that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► you and I are talking about when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► about TV we talked about that cool show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► that we really like from whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► network is making it getting that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► we want it the way we want it with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► interface that we really love and if all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► Apple did was make it a set-top box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► I could take that piece of crap from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► time warner cable and just get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► that garbage do for tivo what app 10 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► Apple tivo like we talked about on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► of our very first shows an apple tivo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► would be pretty great if that's all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► did but there they want to do more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► that and they should but the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► don't want them to yeah it's a TV is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► even more entrenched than than radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► like they have so many things stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► them you know even if it's just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► the purchasing of channels and packages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► this funding the creation of the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► we want and like what's even independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► the video we're like Netflix making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► their own show with Kevin Spacey all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► right well they independent well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► netflix is like it's not a network i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► guess but it's no more independent than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► HBO and like like i said i'm sho number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► one the killer thing is that no solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► from Apple is going to be viable for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► personally and probably for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► people until it can reach some critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► mass of shows i want it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► if netflix has I Kevin Spacey show do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► they have Game of Thrones no do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► have you know Boardwalk Empire know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► I'm not gonna sign on for anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► doesn't have those shows on it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► it's like okay do I get this Apple thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► in addition to this thing i'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► paying for well it's like if i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► pick one so far and still cable has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► most things that i want so i pay this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► tremendous bill to get all these premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► channels for cable even though i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► watch ninety percent of it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► have the ten percent that I want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► there's no way I'm gonna replace that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► you know cable television subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► was something else that doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► 10 shows that I want even if it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► giving up one show you know and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► the challenge Apple faces you can't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► in and say all right well replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► everything in your house with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► awesome thing whether it's an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► television set or just a better Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► uh if they don't have the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► people want and for other people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► sports and stuff like local sports you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► know it's so hard to break through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► that's the wit that's the thing makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► in you know saying intense interest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► ramping up what they say what could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► possibly have hid in their sleeves some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► may major like you know apple buys every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► major television network with a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► billion dollars that it has you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► don't see them coming out of this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► but the television thing is people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► thinking about it they keep thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:02 ◼ ► about in terms of like the iphone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7202">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► gonna be some amazing hardware device or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► some amazing interface to television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► like where you talk to it but Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► that's not the problem like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► be great and all and cool and maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► have great ideas there but even like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► magical mind control television that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► doesn't get Game of Thrones is useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► to me right you know like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► have the content uh and thus far out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► like what Steve Jobs said I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► this is still true they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► just make awesome hardware lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► interface with the content you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► get in the same stupid ways you get it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► night if you want to get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► stupidity and that's it that's taller so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► uh yeah i'm i don't know if i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► ready for this revolution when it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► huh and I'll phablet right this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► is the next big thing to watch for but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► think by the time it happens the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► will be over so you won't get to hear me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► talk about it and hyper critical but ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► thats apples next big thing is what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► you gonna do with TV and Tim Cook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:55 ◼ ► kind of putting his reputation on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7255">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► line by continuing to talk up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7257">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► television thing because if that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► comes an apple says this is what we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► talking about totally guys like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► television thing this is what we meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► and people don't like it that's all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► Tim Cooke right you know even if steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► jobs like oh we've cracked it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► and the biography and everything even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► he was he thought they had done it dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► this is this is this next big thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► all on Tim and so I was gonna say his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► presidency is riding on us but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► a presidency but his presidency of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► sort of is riding on this TV thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► mean how many more sponsors doing no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► mean I'm somewhat less there's someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► you wouldn't do no I have one final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► thing here which is the Apple made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► the USA thing with the mac pro figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► it was worth talking about for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► seconds yeah I think it's a I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► an important thing to mention because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► it's the only one that makes sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► it's also like their lowest volume thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► so yeah like that was the other other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► bit of information and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► template like when you go on national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:53 ◼ ► news you want to have something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7313">TS</a>]
02:01:55 ◼ ► today I can reveal to you like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7315">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► thing he's bringing with him as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7317">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► you know the carrot for the things I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► reveal some news that had ever talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► about for well i'm here to announce that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► apple's going to build you know one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► their lines of computers entirely in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► US we're just you know friendly national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:08 ◼ ► media rara don't build things in china [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7328">TS</a>]
02:02:11 ◼ ► the labor disputes bring jobs back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7331">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► United States blah blah blah but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► elmer-dewitt had this article in fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► which lays out a whole bunch of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► whether why it would be the mac pro he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► saying that you know they said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► going to spend a hundred billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► and he's saying 100 million dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► factory puts about a million units a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► year and the only computer the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► sells a paltry million units a year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7350">TS</a>]
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02:02:47 ◼ ► sense although our friend film are so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:50 ◼ ► makes the mistake of saying Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7370">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► through a spokesperson and through Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► Cook himself has already indicated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► will be producing a new mac pro in 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7377">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► emphasize many times he did not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7381">TS</a>]
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02:03:11 ◼ ► pro but that is a presumption ah so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn2OM-o/7391">TS</a>]
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