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00:01:31 ◼ ► software.com / 5 by 5 how are you today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► John I'm doing fine got follow-up today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/95">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► we have follow-up and then we have we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► going to have an opportunity to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► some questions that were a couple for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► but most of them submitted from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► listeners over Twitter because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/111">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► long-anticipated Q&A episode yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/117">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► think it was like why did episode 95 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► something like that when i said we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► announced the end of the show I said one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► of the episodes was gonna be a Q&A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► episode but it wouldn't tell you which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► one it would be mostly because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/131">TS</a>]
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00:02:18 ◼ ► do it because you know we only had but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► last show was on Friday and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► Wednesday so I don't have the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/142">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► enough time to collect and prepare a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► perfect time to do a Q&A show and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► that it for the record it says this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► not a stump John kind of show these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► questions they're not geared at throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► you you know things you will you'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► to be put on the spot to answer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► like a technological knowledge base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► standpoint they're there questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► you the man the man there whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► anyone wants to ask but if I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► I'm just gonna say i don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► that'll be boring questionable just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► know I'm won't ask anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► move on they don't have to be about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► can be about anything ask me anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► because I can always simply not answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► and I would like to say thanks very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► to my producer Hattie cook for helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► curate your favorite word curate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► cull the list of questions or many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► people responded when I put it out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► on Twitter and she helped picked help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► questions so get ready John I hope next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► year like the word of the year will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► curing like curing meats because cured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► meats are much better than curated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/204">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► things that's that's gonna be the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► of the year and I'm by the way feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► in this show like this this is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► to be questions from the audience from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► the chat room from people on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► people email you or whatever this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/216">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► questions so I said there also might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► a show where I say all right Dan now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► it's time for you to ask me stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► yes this this is not that show so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► think you're getting just because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► like sneaking in a few of your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► questions it doesn't mean you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► well how about this i will remove my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► questions these will be one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► percent crowdsource questions done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► yeah it's a that's up to you if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► to reserve them for if if you you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► called upon to do this you may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► maybe we will never have that show we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► don't know huh so use your own judgment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/244">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► follow-up of course ah and we do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► reasonable sized chunk of bat from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► week i guess we'll start with some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/255">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► about chip stuff and intel and AMD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► arm and all that that has been going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/262">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► bit is an anonymous bit of feedback from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/267">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► anonymous you shouldn't you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► put your name Scott there if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► your moment not full and an image he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► write half he says that he works at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► Intel and that they call it taping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► not taping it so now we have a battle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► the anonymous sources one says he works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► at Intel and they call taping out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► the other one is just merely anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► and says they call it taping in so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► don't know maybe you anonymous people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► should find each other in the intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► lunch room or wherever you might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► meet and hash it out cuz i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► what to think i'm just going by it based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► on your feedback so so there you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► he says they called taping out Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► Evans wrote in about the term taping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► which I'll a show i said i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► what the origin of that term is but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► imagine had something to do with real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► physical tape my guess was that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► to do with like laying down pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► tape to lay out where like the traces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► might go in the ancient myths of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► but that's apparently wrong so Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Evans up gave me some history here he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► says historically this referred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► containing the files on it for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► the bullet with a photolithography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► graphs no photo lithography masks mmm to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► the family so like a magnetic tape like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► you know as a storage medium for digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► data and that's what tapping out means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► and he says that the file format for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► this tape was something called GDS which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► is an unbelievably arcane relic of 1970s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► throughout the industry that was taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► far too long soon as nowadays they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► usually securely email or ftp the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► and that's the modern version email or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► ftp those are the two modern choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► instead of sending a tape over i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► say that both email FTP are also ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► things that should be you know relegated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► particularly ftp but really like if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► Intel and you have like the next design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► for your you know next super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► processor do you want to email it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► all it's a secure email we put it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► password-protected zip file and we send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► it through gmail i will use ftp with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► with clear text passwords i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► that's great anyway so there you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► taping out even though they may or may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► tapes these days that's what it refers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► to taking putting your data onto tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► and sending it out to the fat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/402">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► glass show talking about the possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► of i think it was Apple contracting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► TSMC to do their fabbing and how there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► was rumors about that and how part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► one of the stories that was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► about that deal said that TSMC would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► have to get used to the way Apple likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► to fund how does financially structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► these type of deals where they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► more like apple buys the equipment up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► front for the people and then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► manufacture and the reason most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► reason I was confused by this is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► why I don't know what what the financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► reason is behind this arrangement but be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► the article phrased it as TSMC would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► normally we wouldn't do stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► but Apple wants this strange sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/449">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► deal and it seems like why would why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► would TSMC object to someone structuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► the dealer's ways it works for them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► I'm still not entirely sure on a bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► Trevor hardi verdun to explain why deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► might be structured this way it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► financials doesn't make sense to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► terms of that article saying why someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► might object to this but the gist of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/473">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► upfront purchase costs like to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► fab at any particular feature size cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► literally billions of dollars just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► know you have to just put that money out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► front before you get the first chip off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► the thing so you just need a huge amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► of capital its liquid that you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► down or you know get a loan or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► and you need to build the thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► presuming you built the right thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► the right time and the right place can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/501">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► get customers then finally you can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► making money off of it so if you are say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► a low-margin semiconductor manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► business you might not have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► billions of dollars hanging around or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► you might not want to take out the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► of big alone whereas Apple comes in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► margins and multiple billions of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► in the bank make us a look I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► don't want to take the financial risk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/521">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► build this fab or whatever will put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► money up front will give you this money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► you build the fab and then you'll pay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► back to us by you know making a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► chips or whatever your financial region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► for you and I'm sure apple extracts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► know lower profit margins for this let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► me conduct your manufacturer based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► that or whatever so maybe that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/540">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► they don't like the deal but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► that's that and I'll does that with lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► semiconductors like they do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/547">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► you know we'll buy them we'll put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/548">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► expenditures upfront to buy these metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► machining tools or whatever to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► precise machining of aluminum and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and then we'll buy you the tools you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► them in your factory and you turn them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► out so anybody this is all speculative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► biggest no such deal has yet taken place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► but this is trevor Hardy's explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► of why the deal might be arranged this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► way and of course you know why diff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► Apple has money why don't they just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► with themselves fault presumably the fab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/574">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► expertise in manufacturing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► Apple just has the money and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► give it to those guys and say all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► know you know how to build their fabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► and how to run them and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► emoto's front the money from Jarrod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► Williams wrote in to talk about AMD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► how we talk about you know what if apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► bought AMD what were they get out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► would be good idea or bad idea said if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► anyone buys AMD AMD has to renegotiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► its cross license agreement with Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► and this is I'm assuming Jared learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► this from the exact same place that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► podcast I put a link to it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► it's because it's a good one to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/615">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► to lots of great technical info I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► if you don't like hearing about if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► think I when it's zoom in detail the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► chip stuff you probably won't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► podcast but even getting go into enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► detail you were like this point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► and so I listened to one of the recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► episodes will they talked about AMD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► so I am being then to have a cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► license agreement you know lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/635">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► companies have these where they get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► intellectual property dispute and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► come to an agreement they say okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/640">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► can use our intellectual property and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► can use yours some limited subsets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► whatever and we won't see each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► whatever will go forward but part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► deal is apparently if either company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► gets bought by anybody if Intel changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► ownership or if AMD changes ownership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► renegotiated or not or whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► but that deal is null and void and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► know so if anyone buys AMD you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► you're not automatically getting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/664">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► agreement with Intel let you do that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► gone and now you have to renegotiate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/671">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► and similarly if AMD or intel gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► bought Intel's ability I'm assuming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► the antec pod tech podcast assume as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► well that Intel's ability to use x86 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► the 64-bit instruction set extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► invented by AMD and used in all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► Intel's modern desktop processors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► laptop processors uh until needs that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► be part of its business so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► if someone buys it all bets are off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► then you know tough luck if someone buys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► you the company those the two parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► are going to renegotiate because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► need each other like they each have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► something of the person wants the Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/708">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► is no good without the ability to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► x86 64 and AMD is probably no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► without the ability to make x86 chips so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► they both have all sorts of super done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► intellectual property based on the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► they've invented but that's one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► monkey wrench in the possible theories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► about someone buying AMD and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► who listen to that antec podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► AMD they paint a pretty dire picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► where AMD is like they've already sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► off all the things they can sell off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► to make quick to make a quick buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► they're not well positioned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► market and they're running out of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► fast and it doesn't look like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/742">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► pipeline has any blockbuster products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► they're going to pull them up out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/745">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► so it was a pretty depressing podcast if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► you're hopeful for the future of AMD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/748">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► transactional memory features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► they've put in as well and presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► all future chips but we'll say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► someone with the funny name ghee in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► glaze a right sent to tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► transactional memory is probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► useful in the kernel than in user space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► code so like the kernel maintains lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► of shared resources like the unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/774">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► buffer cache where it you know caches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► access to files and other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/778">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► processes need to manipulate that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► cash because they all go into kernel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► space and do that and years ago as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► points out Mac os10 used to have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► one big giant lock around anything if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► you go and do anything with like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► buffer cache you go in there you grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► locking everyone else has blocked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► even if they weren't even gonna touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/802">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► anywhere near where you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/803">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► because say all you know there's five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► processes that want to screw with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► thing and they're really not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► overlap at all but if we have as coarse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► grain locking only one of them can do at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► a time so Mac os10 has been making finer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► grain locking over time to sit okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► conflict with each other we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► these smaller locks onto these smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► areas and then they can both go at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► same time and that's great especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► multi-core CPUs but with transactional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► memory in theory you could rewrite this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► parts of the kernel to use the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► transactional memory features and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► okay everyone just go at once and if any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► of you actually have a collision then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► yeah you'll get rolled back and have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► do locking stuff or whatever but inmate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► and need hopefully more common case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► where there are no collisions no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► to grab any locks at all like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► sixteen virtual cores can be having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► processes running that are messing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► this part of the colonel so so we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/855">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► I mean like lots of speculative hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► features they think will be good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► some theoretical kinds of workloads you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► have to this two things one you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► actually conform to this theoretical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► thing they'll be better and to you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► to get people to actually rewrite their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/873">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► software to take advantage of your cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► new features or tweak your software do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► something or at least recompile it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/879">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► know depending on how I the bar so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► see how where that goes oh and he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► says that he grew up on blue peter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► England and he loved that show mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► many Blue Peter fans writing and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► this next bit of follow-up from David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► Meyers is about Blue Peter beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► beginning the Blue Peter section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► faulkner try to turn this down ah so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► says that despite all our laughing he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► says sniggering about the name Blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► Peter it's actually named after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► maritime signaling flag representing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► letter P I put a link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/909">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► to Wikipedia page of international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► maritime signal flags he says when flown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► in the harbor it means all persons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/916">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► should report on board as the vessel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► about to proceed to see which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► show creators way of saying program is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► like a ship setting out on a voyage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► having new adventures and discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► new things so it's like everybody aboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/928">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► the board and by the way David Myers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► that paragraph spelled Harbor with an O [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/932">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► you are in the end and program with an e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► at the end proving that he is a bona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► fide person from across the pond right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► that's all you need to do to prove that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► to us yes there's open oh you are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► guess who else would do that no one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► and I he also provided a link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/949">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► Blue Peter FAQ for people who want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► know more about Blue Peter he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► having grown up in the 60s in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► with only a couple of channels on TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► only one hour per day of children's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► influence on the formative years of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► of my generation and I can attest from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► the feedback of that is true many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► wrote in simply to say that they watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► blue peter and they loved it as a kid so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► there you go it's like the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► Sesame Street I still didn't actually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► to youtube and like trying to look up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► episode to see what it was like so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► just like imagining what it's like in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► head and not actually knowing uh okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► actually that was the end of the Blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► Peter section a little bit about the wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► u from someone named Christopher whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► last name I could not find he provided a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► link to a YouTube show channel thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► whatever called the way games work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► watched a little bit of it and I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► like it was pretty good this is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► how the Wii U gamepad works talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► capacitive touchscreens and gyroscopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► and it's not particularly techie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► it's you know if you want sort of a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► high level overview of how the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► inside the gamepad works you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► check it out it's in the show notes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► software update things one new one old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► the first one is I wanted to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► that the new version of BB edit is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► even though they're not sponsoring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► episode yes they well they have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► have in the past so it you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► even if they hadn't we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► not talk about it that's right and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► is noteworthy because this is a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► B be at a 10.5 it's a free update for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► people who own baby out of 10 i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► and it includes retina support which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► means that if you have a mac with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► retina screen everything is rendered at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► the higher resolution and that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► sound like such a big deal like so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► lots of apps are updated for retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► support it's kind of a big deal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► bbedit depending on your definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► is the legacy Mac API that was created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► to allow people who had classic mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► applications to more easily port them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 and it became legacy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► Apple decided that they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► provide a 64-bit version of carbon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► carbon-carbon appt cebu continue to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► but if you wanted your app to be 64 bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► it couldn't be carbon this is despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► the fact that it are you Donna stantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► portion of the work to get 64-bit carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► working so it wasn't a technical problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► was more of a political one it said look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► Coco is the future all your apps should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► be written in Cocoa going forward uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► where you know we're cutting off carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► and that happened many years ago things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► themselves to Coco the real difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► is figure out what do you mean but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► what's a cocoa app and what's a carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► app like if you look at almost any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► modern application you'll see that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► link to the carbon framework and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► cocoa frameworks because even cocoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► applications need to call into things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► that you know could arguably be defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► as carbon api's and most modern carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► apps also linked to the cocoa frameworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► and so like you know is it is it a cocoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► app yeah you know if it you know is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► MS application and runs through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► type of loop is it a carbon out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► it uses carbon events so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► there's lots of different ways you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► define it but the bottom line is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► bbedit as an application that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► around for ages for what 30 years 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► anniversary and I forget how many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► it is but this application was a rat was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► originally distributed on floppy disk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► let you know how old it is well and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► it's been continuously developed for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► those years uh and so obviously you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► you can't really say well why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► guys have a carbon code base was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► nineteen ninety-two like there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► nothing back then there was a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► world and so this is still the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► application more or less continuously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► developed and they managed to find a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► somehow through black magic to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► displays does that mean they converted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► the application to cocoa does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► they found a way to draw on retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► displays with carbon I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► technical details someday if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► rich seagull on one of your interior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► definitely an ask him about people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► asked me about that I directed them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► rich he can reveal his secrets or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► but the point is it's real it's shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► it's even in the mac app store I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► the old version certainly we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► assume this won't be as well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► even have a Retina screen I'm a BB at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► beta tester so I've been running it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► a while but it's not like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► feature baby at 10.5 is retina support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► it also has a tremendous amount of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► features as all new versions of baby I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► to do I put a link into the typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► copious bare-bones release notes does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► the name of the company it's not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► that three thought release notes or bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► bones in fact quite the opposite so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► you want to see all the new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► that are in there even if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► a Retina screen check it out I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► that it's free update for anyone who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► the most recent major version of VPN it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► finally on software notes this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► question this is kind of like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► into the QA show a little early but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► really from Don liebes or Don lives from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► a long time ago he said that uh many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► episodes ago I talked about quicken and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► my inability to run it I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► like an ability to run on lion or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► was the ability to run the mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► or something like that everyone quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► and wouldn't run on modern max maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► because they didn't have an x86 port and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► line dropped the oh yeah Rosetta yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► there was that weird in-between time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► yeah and I said like okay well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► I could run it in you know virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► something or I could keep a machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► not upgraded to lion and run it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► and you know or I could you know look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► for other things people like oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► know if you're looking for other or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► software applications here's a buzzer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► suggestions and if you pick one tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► what you picked on the air so Donna's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► asking whatever happened with that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► did you do did you change to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► different application and you stop using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► quick and whatever i'm not sure if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► mentioned this on past shows but its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► figures worth following up on now before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► the show ends what I ended up doing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► apparently waiting long enough and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► into it came out of her with a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► of quicken for the mac that ran on lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► and i just bought that it was like a $13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► upgrade or whatever was so i did not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► off a quick and i'm still using quicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► its quicken for mac 2007 which tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► the vintage this program but it does run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► on modern max at least around online I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► it still runs a mountain lion like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► launched it the other day in mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► lion maybe there's some features don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► work in mountain lion or some features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► are buggy I don't know we I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► basically use it to track a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► numbers not using any of the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► online stuff or any other features so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► there you have it the depressing non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► exciting conclusion to my quest for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► finance program I'm still using quick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► 2007 all right and the final section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► fall before we get to the QA guys going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► to be all about the geek culture stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► doesn't let let's just say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► outpouring of responses about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► episode has been more that I feel than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► any any episode that you've done maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► with the exception of your Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► Isaacson book uh episode yeah I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► to get a whole bunch of hate mail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► sort of true to form like as soon as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► recording I quit skype like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► email to arrive was a not complimentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and I'm like all right here it comes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► really that was like the exception most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► of the feedback was positive I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► kind of feel like for like blog posts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► podcasts and stuff like that it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► of cheating when you when you do a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► that people have an emotional connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► to know like all that was great like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► Steve Jobs show why do people like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► insightful or articulate no it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► that people have an emotional connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► to Steve Jobs so when you talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► triggers the emotions in them and they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► say all that was a great podcast really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► wasn't I don't think it was any greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► or better than mote you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► other podcasts i did on less emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► resonant topics were more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► more insightful better structured more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► coherent blah blah blah but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► connect to emotionally and sell that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► the one that I really liked and so I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► that I was blog post or someone write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► blog post about something it's like was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► this an example of great riding or was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► it just writing about a topic that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► have an emotional connection to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► maybe I'm crazy for trying to separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► those two but I always you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► it my my usual modus operandi is is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► reject any compliments and explain why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► they're not valid and that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► again with this one because i felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► it when I listen back to him like I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► of got the point across i was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► get across but really was this was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► episode you know but anyway I thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► everyone for the feedback I did want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► talk about it I'm glad that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► invalidate your enjoyment of it i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► being my normal hypercritical self what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► follow-up on that episode I'll get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► onto this self analysis in a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► first part is a a link that a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► people sent me like that actually read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► but I didn't manage to get into the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► notes I'd read it awhile ago I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► back when it was published two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1498">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► from like this summer it's by john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► scalzi who is a famous science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► author i have not read any of his books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► but he's still famous still see even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► you have not read it he still qualifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► I don't read them any century science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► fiction books believe it or not then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► would think you'd be spending almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► of your free time not to preparing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► the show reading and rereading Ender's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► Game I have never read that book never I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► don't know if it would hold up for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► anymore I think it's actually on one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► my I think I bought the book of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► thinking maybe I should read it but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► you should read it but yeah alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► the title of this article by john scalzi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► is who gets to be geek anyone who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► to be which sums up the last show i put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► completeness i think the title says it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► all sometimes you don't have to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► the body of the thing it's who gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► biggie ? answer anyone who wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► okay no body of this article is required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► oh you need more explanation than read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► on so he said it better earlier so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► you have it some more feedback from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► misogynists and stuff like that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► made me think of another point that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► should have put into the previous show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► it's about what you are versus what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► do this is another one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► like the year that your mother tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► when you're little that adults should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► still remember because it's valid advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► lots of the people who are giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► feedback and writing her back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► to each other on the web about the fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► geek girl issue fall into this trap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► did it myself i'm sure in the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► podcast of calling someone a misogynist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► the guy who is our read all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► room was Tony Harris or something some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► comic book artists oh I didn't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► wrote that terrible thing right that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► kind of the basis of the article that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► was riffing on and the previous show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► know clearly he's a misogynist right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► mean just read what he wrote I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► it's not particularly useful to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► about people in that way like condemning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► it's better it's better to condemn their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► actions then to say they are something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► because if you say someone is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► you are a misogynist well like how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► someone change what they are right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► if you say that thing you wrote you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► is misogynistic right or that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► you said like if you can condemn their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► actions people can change their action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► it's like okay well going forward I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► not make that action right but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► say oh no no you are a misogynist well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► then how can you ever change that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► once you once you label somebody is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► they are you put your painting your uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► backing them into a corner basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► because they look they will they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► lash out and be defensive because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► know you are labeling me as what I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► rather than saying that thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► did was bad uh or you know sexist or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► racist or ever you want to pick because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► they can say okay well I just won't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► that thing anymore i agree with you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► was that thing i did was bad i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► change my ways than going forward I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► not do that thing because if you label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► them as the misogynist then everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► to do from then on it's like well I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► just regard everything he does cuz he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► a misogynist well if he does not act in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► that way going forward then he's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► know so I'm over I'm talking around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► circles in this but basically I'm a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► proponent of the idea of condemning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► things that people do and say and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► actions and policies and stuff rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► than labeling them because once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► label somebody and it ends constructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► discourse alright um and that's for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► topic of that last show about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► fakie girls and misogyny and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► stuff I'm really surprised I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► any feedback condemning me for pitching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► myself such a softball like no way what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► do you what do you mean by bold stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► against misogyny on the next show we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► gonna talk about how I feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► killing puppies and stealing from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► elderly like it's you know it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► softball like what am I gonna do it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► I'm gonna be for it it's gonna be pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► misogyny like it's really it's you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► saying we did it was it was two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► too easy for you to take the side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► you talk I mean I just thought I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► be said in those kind of obvious but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► it's not like it's not you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► a controversial issue in it in hindsight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► is probably why I didn't get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► hate mail about it is because like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► am I you know other people who are pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► misogyny gonna write me and tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► actually you're wrong and we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► really hate all women like I guess maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► those people are out there but they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► they're not listening to the show right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► but it really was it was a softball like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not tackling a topic where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► really had to think hard about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► the answer is there and uh but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► much more complex facets to this and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► lot of people did bring up the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► complex things one of them is the can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► say di ck on the show and we won't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► do it do it I don't get to get bleed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► euler like that do it because it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► be the short version of some persons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► name was mother named him race I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► do it uh so the penny arcade dick wolves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► controversy you're familiar with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► okay I need this explain to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► other people have made reference to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► I don't know what it is and I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► please explain this yeah people not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► penny arcade circles might not know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► is this different from rape wolf that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► the same thing okay so i put links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► the show notes to this topic one is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► article by all on all lowercase Arthur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► hyphen IGN whose real name I could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► find the title of his thing is on dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► wolves ethics and why I'm not attending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► pax east and it is kind of a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► explanation of how this issue made him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► decide not to attend pax east and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► he linked to when I also put in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► notes I link on a site called debacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► tumblr com which is the pratfall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► Penny Arcade a timeline it is a timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► trying to be a dispassionate timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► all the events that happened in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► controversies you want if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► see either someone's reaction to it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► summary or just like a timeline of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► this happened then this happened in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► happen this happen you can read both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► those now I don't want to get into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► issue mostly because it is a complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► issue and it's not where some place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► where i can say all party a is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► riding the other side is totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► or vice versa so there are nuances on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► both sides of this uh I I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► people who asked me like what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► think about this issue or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► my best answer to it is a blog post that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► I wrote on my blog that never gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► posted too but I wrote this blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► many months before the dick balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► controversy erupted right when I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► I'm like I must have written this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► afterwards because this must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► like my way of like responding to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► dick bolts thing without addressing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► director but then it looked at the dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► I'm like no this was months before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► dick bulbs thing but i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► entirely relevant and related so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► want to see sort of a somewhat oblique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► answer to this entire controversy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► where I've come down on it you can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► this post it's called no movie for Old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► Men it's at my hypercritical co website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► which was previously siracusa tumblr com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► the ball three direct to each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that will give you an answer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► question of what do you think of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► big controversy I'd like I said I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► want to talk about it because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► it's a type of thing we're both you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► I don't I say both sides are equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► wrong about such weekly earth is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► not there is there is an imbalance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► they're out here here's my summer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► people wanting or something i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► penny arcade guys are well-intentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► but did some very that reacted very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► poorly again that's what talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► you know saying what they did and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► that versus what they are i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► they are any kind of horrible human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► beings i think all their motivations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► good but i think a lot of their actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► were not good and on the other side i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► think there was a lack of understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► about you know why the penny arcade guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► had such bad reactions because again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► not understanding to excuse it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► understanding because if you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► why it is that they're acting that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► you're better able to help them also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► their behavior versus just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► condemn them so it was just a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► situation all around and there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► winners in this and you can read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► about it if you want i know they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► actually interested if you I will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► to research that's all right you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► get it and so this is this is how wimpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► Amma on the strobe is I don't think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► you know the reason i picked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► softball topic last time is cousinly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► know it needs to be talked about and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► part of it was because i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► shouldn't be such a softball and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► couldn't stand seeing this debate around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► it because it's like this is cut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► controversy we should be clear on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► fake geek girl think it's ridiculous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► that i was totally willing to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► stand on because it's sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► criticism of geek culture which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► podcast is about the nuanced issues I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► would rather have people sort out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► their own and not try to come down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► like nope this is the way it is on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► particular sorry if you're disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► by that but this is in the end not worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► a podcast about it's a podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► whatever you want it to be about I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► but this is what I wanted to be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► all right so another link that a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► of people sent me that I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► interesting this one I think was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► first person to send it to me and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► reading his name because he provided a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► pronunciation yay uh Cameron higbee nay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► can or nay can the can yeah it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► entitled five geek social fallacies it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► is by Michael Oh another guy with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► hyphenated last name Suliban Wilson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► maybe it is from 2003 so ancient in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► internet time yet I had never seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► before today and the social fallacy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► there they're abbreviated in the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► GSF number one two three four five segi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► social fallacy number one geek social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► policy number one I think is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► relevant to the previous discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► here's the definition from the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► prevents its carrier from participating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► in or tolerating the exclusion of anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► from anything be at a party comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► obnoxious offensive or aromatic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► perspective excluding may be so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► kind of like recognized GSF one is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► you know the fallacy that all ostracized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► or evil in that if you exclude anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► from anything it's terrible and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► people were sending this link because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► a reaction to me saying that geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► judgment-free zone and supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► inclusive you shouldn't be excluding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► other people uh I don't think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► points in this thing and the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► amount of the fat show are opposed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► all because there's quite a range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► between being best friends with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► and being actively hostile to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► self-identify as the thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► identify at right that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► railing against you can't tell someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► they can't call themselves a geek or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► faking or just a terrible person right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► that's that's what you can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► doesn't mean you have to be their best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► friend and hang out with them every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► like there's no and so this this geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► number one thing is like not only can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► you not be a terrible person to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► deny them their own basic rights of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► self-identification and say they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► they can't possibly belong to your group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► but you have to like invite them to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► your birthday parties and that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► not what I'm saying like this huge range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► all I'm saying is don't be a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► person to other people and don't deny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► them their basic rights but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► mean you must there you know like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► imagine maybe this metastasizes in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► you know the the best parts of geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► everything you know it extends like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► not only do you have to be inclusive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► everybody I mean that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► ridiculous and I guess that's why it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► social fallacy but apparently this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► happen like reading through this geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► social fallacy things I'll read off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► title son they've got social policies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► number one through five so one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► ostracized or evil to as friends accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► me as I am three is friendship before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► all for his friendship is transitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► meaning if I'm friends with you and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► friends with him than you and him should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► be friends and five is friends do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► everything together and if you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► these geek social fallacies they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► none of them really rang true to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► because I guess none of my circles or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► friends behave like this but i have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► at a distance groups that appeared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► behave this way so i totally believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► that these are rooted in something this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► is more like a sort of self-help thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► for like how to better interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► other people successfully aimed at geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► emphasizing the things that geeks may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► you know because i guess it could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► direction and try to be accepting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► everybody and that extends to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► inviting everybody for your birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► party and just becomes a disaster they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► also talk about why fyp which is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► feelings your problem and i think i may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► have that one a little bit more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► other people I think it'll small dose of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► that is a is healthy actually but uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► then why have YP carriers deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► other people's fallacies by ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► them entirely in the process require a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► reputation for being charmless lee tact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► tactless yeah that's probably me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► anyway read the article maybe if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► you can identify the things in it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► it can help you but i think it is not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► opposition to anything I said last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► and if people misinterpreted what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► saying as you have to be best friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► with everybody in the world that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► alright it's okay to not like everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► right you just just can't be a jerk I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► just don't be a jerk about it no why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► exactly you know that's what being X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► onto each other means it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► being best friends with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► doesn't mean you have to hang out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► everything it just means like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► go up and say I hate you and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► you say about yourself is false and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► deny the reality of any of your feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► or interests that's a big range there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► you know don't do that but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► alright and finally this this last put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► piece of geek culture feedback is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► like an extension of last show and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► very succinct so I'm just gonna read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► all off this is from John last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► withheld uh he says is he related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► together last name withheld guy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► that's an in joke that you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► get it did I ever do that before maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► I'm repeating myself I probably did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► alright so he says in his screed Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► establishing that female cosplayers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► no power over him sexually this under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► scares underscore is a male anxiety that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► isn't only a nerd concern but may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► particularly troubling to nerds one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► the traits of masculinity is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► be in vulnerability or a move ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► but truth to tell male sexual response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► excitement comes when it comes in pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► culture there's a myth of the swab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► dispassionate man who could take sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► pleasure on his own terms but is in no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► way under the thrall of women characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► like James Bond can remain unmoved by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► interesting article about how this plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► out in the works of Raymond Chandler is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► here and you know in typical it snob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► fashion he gives me the link to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► Raymond Chandler thing maybe that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► a little snob thing maybe that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► literary person thing but anyway I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► the link in the show notes you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► read about how that works in Raymond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► Chandler novels for nerds who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► regularly accused of being less than men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► the desire to present an impervious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► front is strong so think this is a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► know again i'm not sure i said here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► one explanation or cause of misogyny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► here is another one the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► masculinity is shown to be unmoved by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► things and yet men you know inevitably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► are heterosexual men and Everly are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► moved by things that they find sexually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► attractive and you're supposed to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► just massaging is manifesting itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► trying to fight against that and say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► you don't have power over me sexually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► revolting against these feelings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► are inside themselves about you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► control that these females seem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► so I thought that was a good explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► and he has another bit at the end here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► the one thing the Harrison too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► other men also assume is that women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► on display for the benefit of men those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► who cosplay do it for a variety of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► reasons unique to themselves including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► challenge of the craft the community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► self-expression some may be involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► sexualizing display but it's wrong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► assume that even these are doing it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► your pleasure or notice the fallacy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► that if you read someone's outfit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► this includes regular clothes as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► dress-up clothes a sexually provocative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► that the wearer had you in mind when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► chose it all all very true all one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► the you know many many more reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► misogyny I picked up I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► the biggest gimme this is probably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► second or third place ah so thanks John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► for that feedback the whole article that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► i almost put in here from crack calms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► you know cracked com no I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► couldn't tell I thought crack on was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► humor website as article was like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► about similar topics like you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► men are trained to hate women by modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► society or something like that and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► it says if it's a humorous site there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► would be more jokes but it was a serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► offensive so I couldn't decide and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► just didn't put the link in so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► want to look that up you can't yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► I didn't the guard achill was that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► but tried to make some of these similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► points mixed in with a bunch of terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► points all right I think that's it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► the follow-up okay sponsor time yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2492">TS</a>]
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00:41:39 ◼ ► next time you want a registered domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► name check them out if you like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► I'll give you ten percent off code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► Dan sent me they don't nickel and dime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► you with stuff that's the theme for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► day for my sponsors today you go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► you register calm down or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► like the dot CEO that TV they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► most of them not all of them they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► it really simple little search box type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► in the domain name that you want they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► show you if it's available if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► somebody else who's selling it they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► show you that too if it's available for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► auction they'll show you that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► if you want to transfer domain from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► somewhere else which is what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► pretty much all of my domains they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► it really easy they have this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► called domain transfer valet where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► do the whole process for you which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► really great they don't charge for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► just like they don't charge for who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► privacy they also have email hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► they do charge for that if you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► there are tons and tons of really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► great services I mean they put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► toll free number right on the front page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► and they've gotta know hold policy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► just pick up the phone and you call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► in someone answers and it will help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► they also have built-in dns management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2566">TS</a>]
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00:43:07 ◼ ► off so go check them out thanks very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► very much toddler for making this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► possible it's a time for the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► and answer section it's time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► queues and possibly the A's depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► what the queues are these kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► questions that are collected right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► you have for the record you have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► seen well you maybe you've seen them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► because I asked on Twitter and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► have been following along but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► messaged me early on and you said I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► you're collecting these questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► because I'm not and I said I am and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► here are the questions and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► these are things that vary dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► everything from specific programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► questions all the way to very broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► things but i'll start with this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► actually before you start okay they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► the people in the chat room to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2638">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► yes you can still ask questions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► follow ups in the chat room the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► point is it's not like you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► questions and no more questions come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► if something flies by in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► we think it's interesting we'll grab it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► if it's a follow-up for something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► talking about it's the Wild West there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► is no system there is no queue you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► not take a number you're you are at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► mercy of Dan and Haddie in me all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► patty watch a chat Ruben if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► something good grab it okay she says she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► will and by the way my first answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► just the people out there how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► spell your name joh this question see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► did get some of mine and this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► asked is from Bradley chambers and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► says what was John's favorite episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► hypercritical and as a second part part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► 2 what podcasts does John listen to i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► gonna give the standard a child favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► answer to the podcast question do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► know what that answer is him uh all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► them Oh like I can't worth lookin I how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► can i pick my favorites like picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► your favorite child um i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► don't i really don't know i could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► pick a number one favorite I like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► of the same episodes and most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► like you know uh I like the like toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► episode like Steve Jobs episode I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► the Mac os10 follow-up episodes okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► let me like all the popular ones i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► no favorite let me riff off that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► which hypercritical episode do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► hypercritical oh that's tough because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► like there are ones that that stick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► the format the closest but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► necessarily the best my main problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► as always that I am an old person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► can't remember anything I can barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► remember those I can barely remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► vodkas like sometimes they only come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► like oh I wait a second didn't we do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► show about right that's that's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► know you're getting old when you're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► you can be reminded about something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► you yourself have done oh you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► that long ago it happens all the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► think it really depends on your interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► because the the problem is I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► of the episodes are like I come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► I golike that was exactly what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► to do but if no one is interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► that topic it you know people go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► that episode stunk like but it raised if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► you happen to be really into model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► trains and I happen to do half of a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► about model trains like a good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► is the video game controller episode if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► you don't care about video games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► controllers those that show is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► death right but if you really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► video games of control is like oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► my favorite one right so maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► the most quintessential episode fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► so polarizing because where I really got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► uh you know down and detailed into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► topic that I but think about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► reflect if you will on the the Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► auto the Steve Jobs biography book when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► you talked about that to me to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► one or maybe the toaster episode are as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► you would say textbook or quintessential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► hypercritical that I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► somebody could listen to either of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► episodes maybe it's the toaster not yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► like if you can listen that toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► episode if you enjoy that you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► you you get it you totally get it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► you're gonna yeah I was things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► know it really depends on if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► relate to you know I got all excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► about these topics that I'm interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► in you have to be able to to a maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► you're not excited about toaster there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► gotta be something in your life that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► makes you feel that way and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► just a laid back kind of person doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► care about the stuff and just sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► like complaining all right so so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► know i don't have a good answer to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► one either there's gonna be a theme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► both diseases that I you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► answers or don't have a good answer well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► and to continue this eric price asks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► what are some of the topics you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► planned to discussed but had I not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► actually we skipped over the second part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► of that question oh I remember that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► back in my history it was the blonde [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► also know the other podcasts that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► listened to a lot of people asked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► all the time i was thinking of there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► nothing i have to do is on the fly show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► notes or keep track of what need to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► in the show it said the blister podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► i listened to is not better shattering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► like at various times I've listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► almost all the five by five shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► there's just too many of them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► can't fit them all in so I've pared it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► down I mean rattle off every single five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► by five shove it listen to Marco shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► amplified when I have a chance which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► rare these days I listen to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► incomparable zuv course periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► I'll listen to they are the shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► basically go through anything by five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► five if you see a show that's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► topic you think you like then listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► it so I endorse all those the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► everyone listens to everyone I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► know fresh air all things considered not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► all things considered fresh air what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► the other one hour glass This American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► Life yes this American what I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► know is that our shattering you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► radiolab things a little bit of radiolab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► like the number of subscriptions in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► podcast section and itunes is huge like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► that there's no way i can listen ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► I think it's like over a hundred right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► and I just pick and choose what I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► the mood for anthro Mon that you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► nice today I listen to a Roderick on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► line is a great one maybe these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► those are like the lesser-known maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► like if you if you like back to work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► don't listen to the you look nice today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► erotic online you should Planet Money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► the talk show like people i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► reading stuff off the people right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► the chat room geek Friday Creek Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► actually do listen to pretty regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► not our showering the ones that the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► gems i think i have that at points that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► i've said before is one if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► listen to the flophouse you should which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► is a podcast where they listen they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► watch bad movies and complain about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► and you can understand why that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► appeal to me and not just because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► friend's brother is part of the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► the other podcast i listen to let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► started is danna tech podcast which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► think is great in-depth nerdy stuff i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► since it wasn't core intuition guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► English's couple of shows he's got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► called ad hoc where a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► talk about stuff he's got one called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► debug where he talks to developers edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► cases with wool french so many podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/2993">TS</a>]
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00:50:17 ◼ ► that one Eric price what are some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► topics you'd planned to discussed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► haven't gotten to before ending show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3021">TS</a>]
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00:50:25 ◼ ► had a list of topics I got to all them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3025">TS</a>]
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00:51:32 ◼ ► if there's something we should play or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3092">TS</a>]
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00:51:36 ◼ ► if I had to pick my top five I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► pick based on like memories you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3099">TS</a>]
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00:51:44 ◼ ► on what I think the quality the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3104">TS</a>]
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00:52:15 ◼ ► I'm forgetting some in there but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3135">TS</a>]
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00:52:20 ◼ ► are current generation some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3140">TS</a>]
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00:53:06 ◼ ► electronic I think they do I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3186">TS</a>]
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00:53:30 ◼ ► mother would have never bought me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► football game so I probably like got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► from a friend once it was too old to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3213">TS</a>]
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00:53:35 ◼ ► vic-20 was the first thing that captured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► my attention that was clearly a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► technology and what was the second part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► of that question second part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► question was how did you fall in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► with tech yeah I think it all took was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► the vic-20 like that you could hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► something up to your television and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3230">TS</a>]
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00:53:53 ◼ ► would appear in your television because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3233">TS</a>]
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00:53:58 ◼ ► sent out information but now I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► television it was mad you controlled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► television it's like it's you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► television is no Sesame Street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► Muppet Show wherever you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► this amazing box word entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► comes out and like and it totally flips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3253">TS</a>]
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00:54:16 ◼ ► stuff in there's like no way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3256">TS</a>]
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00:54:19 ◼ ► was but i think i think it really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3259">TS</a>]
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00:54:23 ◼ ► was a television like it didn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► with a monitor wasn't like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► modern computer i think that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► really was key you know it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► oh that was just this weird transitional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► phase but they didn't have monitors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► you know they were decided the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► but it was important that you were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► your television as the monitor because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► it was subverting an existing sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3278">TS</a>]
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00:54:49 ◼ ► of any job within the Apple hierarchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► what role would you pick and why yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3291">TS</a>]
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00:54:57 ◼ ► for at Apple which is Steve Jobs his old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3297">TS</a>]
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00:55:08 ◼ ► strong opinions about things and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3308">TS</a>]
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00:55:13 ◼ ► programmer I don't do user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3313">TS</a>]
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00:55:25 ◼ ► saying I would do a good job but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3325">TS</a>]
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00:55:28 ◼ ► it the company other people ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► that's actually one of the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3330">TS</a>]
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00:56:19 ◼ ► like unless you're a guy in charge or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► something really influence stuff I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► perfectly with alex chance question Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► Cook resins tomorrow and appoints you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► a successor what is the first thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► change at apple the first thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► it's the easiest gimme is it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► to know because like what what gimme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► yeah I'm gonna say something but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► question is what would you change and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► that implies that you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► that Apple is currently doing and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► don't obviously it's secret so if I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► in there and if only thing I knew if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► only things that Apple was doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► things i know about now the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► i would do would be to start a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► to make a new file says now maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► already they already have a project to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► make a new file system maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► going to be come out next week I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► know but like from the outside like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► that's that's the easiest gimme change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► because they desperately need a new file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► system they've needed it was such a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► time it's such a key component and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► everything that they do and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► going to become more important over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► you just cannot have your data on a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► system that has no idea whether your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► data is correct or not in the routinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► karups itself it's boring its technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► it's like oh you're missing the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► picture blah blah but like it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► gimme day one you go and do that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► reverse of that the very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► project is that I would go about trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► to change the company to make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► focused on server-side culture if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► listen to hyper critical for the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► couple years you know I keep harping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► this but it's totally true that the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► which apple is not like Google in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► of the focus on the server side hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► and software it should I think it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► be more like them that regard doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► mean you need to take away any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► good things that Apple does doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► you have to oh you got to make them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► Google make them bad at all no they stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► good at the stuff they're good at but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► try to also foster you know maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► like a part of the company a section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► the company you just add to the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► that be the kind of culture that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► infrastructure components like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► the Google file system or a big table or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► spanner or the apple or Amazon Web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► Services and easy to like that needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► go into Apple that kind of culture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► idea and expertise that needs to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► so that would be my my you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► there's two two changes one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► little tiny one about the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► and the other one is big giant company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► wide sweeping philosophical and both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► those probably sound like terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► answers because like I said people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► that the little one about the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► system is unimportant and it's missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► to the forest of the trees and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► think the other one is gonna turn up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► went to Google and make them bad at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► the stuff that they're good at and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► would try to avoid that okay so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► question where he says aside from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► HFS plus file system replacement what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► technology do you think Mac OS 10 or OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► 10 as you say is sorely missing at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► point uh well I'm already harped on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► language and API issue with Objective C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► I don't think you can keep going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► forever altering objective-c I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► see a better language that I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► if that would count as an operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► system feature what I would focus on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► think that there's been a lack of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► interesting stuff going on in the kernel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► space i was just talking earlier today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► about like when you have an OS update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► remember when they used to give you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► OS update and like many many versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► ago mac OS 10 and it would say this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► update requires a restart and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► click the button they would do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► install and then install i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► okay i've applied the you know 10-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► 4.3 update click this button to restart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► and then you just leave the dialog up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► your on your computer keep working yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► which is terrible i can it's updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► operating system while you're using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► and then some the new policy is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► they they don't let you they say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and you have to just immediately log out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► all the apps quit and then it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► download you know it installs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► installer or downloads it while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► working but then it does the Installer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► when you're not working right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► idea of you know this requires kernel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► space change of the hardware changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► everything with the idea of a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► that is more robust kind of more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► mainframes where you can like do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► on the fly without restarting restarting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► the system I completely replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► kernel or swap out CPUs and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► crazy mainframe features that people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► are inter mainframe computers know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► and say this is why mainframes are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► relevant because you know i can replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► transactions on this machine that runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► this banking system or whatever those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► type of features hardware that hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► and software combined operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► that it sort of works with the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► in a symbiosis type relationship where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► you can you know modify upgrade recover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► and inspect these things you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► real time without restarting without any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► sort of these barbaric things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► have to do now and this is an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► people can sell that's crazy yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3658">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► you need that for name frames that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► running banking systems in the stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► market stuff you don't need that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► personal computers but this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► technology works crazy features happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► on out on mainframes first like virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► memory who that is going to need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► right and then it trickles down and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► is the the next thing I think they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► to trickle down especially as our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► electronics are becoming more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► appliances that we sort of have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► technology and know-how to do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► these things but so far not the will to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► say I'm going to make a new thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► rejects the old way that says no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► don't have to restart when we when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► give you an update to the kernel or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► other part of the operating system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► fact you can do everything on the fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► there is nothing that requires you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► stop everything you're doing turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► everything off dump all the contents of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► memory and restart so that kind of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► kind of ambition to bring a mainframe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► level robust lyst robustness two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► the size of a wristwatch or phone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► think that requires core operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► system changes and some more exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► advancements there instead of just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► adding slightly more finer grain locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► or transactional memory to the unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► buffer cache or whatever all right let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► do another sponsor prop in Co you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► tried one of these well I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► prop and go I want to try a nice eve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► again we need to get one of them sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► because this is what it is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► you've seen these laptop things you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► on your lap right that have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► soft like memory foam thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► bottom and then it props that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► this is for the iPad you can use with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► ipad mini you could use it with a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► know full-size iPad you zag you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► use it with your nexus 10 if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► but it's perfect if you watch movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► bad or play games in the couch and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► don't want to sit there trying to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► something like precariously balancing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► it's perfect for this works anywhere we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► use a lot of the time we'll just put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► right here I'll put it right here on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► desk slide that thing around this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3768">TS</a>]
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01:02:52 ◼ ► a case on your device that's fine just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3772">TS</a>]
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01:04:27 ◼ ► question would be because who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3867">TS</a>]
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01:04:43 ◼ ► personal pic because that wouldn't be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3883">TS</a>]
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01:04:49 ◼ ► in Jonathan Coulton interviews let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3889">TS</a>]
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01:05:01 ◼ ► McDonald old McDonald as we call him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3901">TS</a>]
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01:05:06 ◼ ► ever thought about taking it up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► and if yes have you ever posted or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► published any of your drawings I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► really draw others like doodling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► stuff like you know but it you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► much time to duel anymore in this modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► computer age remember how much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► everyone used to doodle like in school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► because we've got like you're bored and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► you've got a pencil and you've got paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► and folders and margins and stuff and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► you don't like crazy but if you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► all day in front of a computer in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► keyboard it's like no place to doodle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► and people don't like oh let me open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► a little sketch pad app and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► doodling with my mouse it's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► much of this too much barrier to entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► whereas idle doodling you just give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► anyone a pen and a piece of paper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3937">TS</a>]
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01:05:40 ◼ ► just make tremendous creations on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► paper while they talk on the phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3942">TS</a>]
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01:05:48 ◼ ► noodles calm or something like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► idle doodles where someone has a pen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► any piece of paper or newspaper anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► near them and they're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► else I like talking on the phone or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3956">TS</a>]
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01:06:00 ◼ ► somebody and the amazing things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3960">TS</a>]
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01:06:16 ◼ ► look at the huge volume of doodles they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► produce during the year like that's art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3978">TS</a>]
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01:06:24 ◼ ► than that yeah I would say no I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► any formal drawing anymore these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/3985">TS</a>]
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01:08:29 ◼ ► singing from the top of his throat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► screeching and talking about stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4111">TS</a>]
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01:08:44 ◼ ► who you use 52 years old there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4124">TS</a>]
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01:08:48 ◼ ► about that kid that you hear singing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4128">TS</a>]
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01:08:55 ◼ ► hear that because yeah I think like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► know he's not listening to his own music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► or whatever he's probably sick of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► hearing like things from a joshua tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► and stuff but like maybe just hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► out walking through the supermarket one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► day and dublin and a track from boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► comes on what does he think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► kid like in his private moments you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► i wanna know what that's like like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► does he disassociate does that seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► a different person because he's come so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► far since then or does he still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► like that exact same person and somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► he's shambling around this big ol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► person's body that's my bono question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► you can imagine how cloying my Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► Coulton question would be so going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► to your history Dennis Bailey what were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► some of young John's favorite childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► toys would or do your children enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4177">TS</a>]
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01:16:25 ◼ ► in silver would do you think there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► be a new mac pro in the same form or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► something else what do you want in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► 2013 mac pro he says you Mac Pro and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► replacement and this is when Marco and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► were talking about this earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► week on build and analyze you know it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► wiII identified I think Marco pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► out that you know Tim didn't say we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► have an updated Mac Pro for you he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► we'll have something for those of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► who like the mac pro it was it was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► more ambiguous than that like I well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► know if you like the mac pro hey we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► have something for you in 2013 Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► didn't make that point I made that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► many many times I've made that point oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► you did and so you get the credit for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► but he made that point on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► whether we attributed to you or not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► the same point yes and is it bears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► repeating anyway uh I think the odds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► sounding that looks just like a current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► mac pro with the different stuff on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► inside is like below fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► because like then what's the point like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► we're all this waiting and only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► you're gonna have is something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► exactly the same it's called a mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► it looks like a big cheese grater but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► just the in size are different that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► seems spectacularly unlikely to me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► but i made me you know less than fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► percent i would bet against it if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► because like the optical drives going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► away everywhere not because it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► but because that's what Apple does like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► is there a reason the optical drive had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► that's the thing apples doing so how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► you take a thing a case this big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► there was room for two optical drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► all we're just going to put a blank spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► there and not have them and just fill it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► with more hard drives like it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► crazy to me that something that Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► users might like would come out and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► would be exactly the same big cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► grater case so I'm hoping it's not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► the same case and I don't expect it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► probably yeah okay Martin Baron under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► what conditions would you switch to PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► or windows what hypothetically would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► need to happen hardware software wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► before the switch suppose OS 10 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► discontinued what operating system would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► you switch to switch to PC or windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► yeah that's the under what conditions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► don't like these questions if Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► gone out of business in like nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► ninety-seven yeah ah we're tie he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► talking about now though Matt Martin I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► know I'm trying I'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► scenarios words which all right but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► Apple if Apple Ghana business 1997 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► probably would have switched to linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► but I probably also would have dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► booted windows for games the only way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► can imagine I would ever switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► Windows or switch away from Mac os10 got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► it even if Apple disappears tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► like I would I would go to unix I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► not because my you know I love apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► stuff but i also love unix I do not love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► almost anything about windows except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► the fact that it runs some games that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► like so i would i would go to unix I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► would not go to windows because I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► you know and it and you say what of UNIX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► goes away I don't think I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► harder to do you could probably make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► apple go away but you can't make us go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► away so I would I would almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► go to unix this despite the fact like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► said I don't wanna screw with my stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► don't want to build my own pc you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► accept the config files but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► still I would still go with UNIX but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► hope i hope it never comes to that Anna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► debenhams susa friend of the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► guess we can say that she says what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► manufacturers doing over the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► years now we we talked about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► Android style console but then the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► thing you kick-started what it what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► or is it the wii u i hope the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► console manufacturers first i hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► stay in business that's my first help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► for all them because they are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► beset on all sides by competitors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► are sort of you know is there room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► original game console i hope that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► continues to be room for that device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► I hope they innovate into such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► that they stay in business second thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► is I hope that they sort of are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► bold about making radical technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► changes it seems like I mean you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► expect a cheap home game console to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► six-hundred-dollar video card inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► right you just can't compete with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► kind of money but you can do interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► things on the console that you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► on the pc like the ps3 i think was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► technically and just interesting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► the cell architecture and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4858">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► there's no way they could fly on the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► because it would be incompatible with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► architecture and it's just not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► fly at all but you can do that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► console now i don't think the pc was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► this ps3 was this resounding success and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► i don't think the cell experiment was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► particularly big success but that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► of innovation it can't happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► peace pc pc space it can't happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► mac space it really can't happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► phone or tablet space because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► such an entrenched you know backward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► compatibility culture and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► that whereas on the game console space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► it's still okay to say maybe your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► games will run on the ps4 maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► won't you know they always try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► some nod to backward compatibility but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► that's a relatively recent phenomenon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► wish that would be beaten back a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► bit because it lets that divide of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► saying well from one generation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► council the next lets them wipe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► slate clean and go all right well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► don't really care if ps2 games playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► the ps3 like the way they did it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► they put the ps2 a motion engine chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► thing onto one system on a chip and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► just shoved it on the motherboard next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► to the ps3 was basically a ps2 and ps3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► next to each other and eventually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► entirely and you know people grumble a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► little bit but we all survived right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► like that I like being able to wipe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► slate clean and so that's what I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► console makers continue to do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► anachronistic to say what they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► really start to do is be more like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► you know do all the stuff they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► do to stay in business but what I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► about the consoles are the old things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► that are terrible for them that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► driving them out of business but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► ask me what I want that's what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► all right let me hear oh here's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► one Nicholas Ward AKA ultra nerd would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► language what would such a language need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► or how could pearl be improved well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► think that last part that's that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► show or whole series the first part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► would you ever leave pearl for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► language and what with the language need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► you know it's not like that's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► how development works in the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► world where you're like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► you're an ex programmer and you draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► your programming in that language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► you can leave it for another language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► like at various times in my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► career like I've spent not just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► day or a month or a week but hold you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► know long sections of my work life doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► most of my programming in JavaScript in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► in PL sequel for oracle and plz quiver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► for postgres like just because pearl is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► the language i know best and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► the most doesn't mean to that's where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► send the majority amount of time so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► think all programmers these days are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► sort of multi-language you see you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► to be I mean it's a CSS canis language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► certainly JavaScript I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► can't just be a programmer in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► particular language so I don't think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► like am i leaving parole and I spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► three months writing JavaScript know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► like have I left it I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► really know what that means if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► asking if there's a language I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► better than pearl like I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► programming language of choice is pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► what would it take for your programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► language of choice to not be pearl to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► something you need a language that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► like better than / like do I like Ruby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► better than Pearl no I don't like I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► that's the problem the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► pearls I think I said in previous shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► when I look at other languages like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► Python and Ruby and stuff like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► in Ruby I see a language that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► have learned more from pearl but didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► uh like making the same mistakes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► pearl made which sounds crazy it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► well but pearl already made those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► mistakes so like why you know why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► sticking with the language that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► acknowledging has mistakes it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► well I'm not gonna leave for another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► unless I think it's learned everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► there is to learn from pearl and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► not made those mistakes in Python [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► is like philosophically different as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► like a different style and flavor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► that it's you know very different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► so the Pearl culture and that's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► the way that's not the kind of culture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► like JavaScript well now I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► know it's not I don't I don't dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► JavaScript for the reasons that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► most people who dislike javascript is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► like it again I just like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► not because the DOM is ugly not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► working with browsers is knowing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► those things are true but like as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► language just so feature poor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► limited and oversimplified and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► that should be simple or complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► just you know that like the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► CoffeeScript exists is because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► who are programming language kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► service don't like JavaScript it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► great language we like what you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► with it we like the fact that there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► fast engines you can run all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► these reasons but as language not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► so so far there is not a language out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► there that I like better than pearl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► what it would take for me to leave pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► for another language in that sense would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► be for me to see a language that I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► this language is more fun for me to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► with the pearl it doesn't mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► language is better just means I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► better that's so far that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► happened I think I name goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► contenders there's some other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► forgetting that people want to hear me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► express express my distaste for I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► that but Chris shock asks if you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► resorted to programming in Python uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► think I have a couple of scripts that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► have hacked-up that are written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► Python I don't think I've ever started a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► script script from scratch and Python [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► like I mean I Twitter backup script is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► someone else's Python Twitter backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► script that I have modified over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► yeah like that flickr exporter thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► same thing like at it no one should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► to write Python yeah it's not it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► match with my and some parts of it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► match with my philosophy but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► parts have been done and that python is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► another language i felt like all men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► like it's i see it going through some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► the same things that pearl did with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► pythons 00 system where they changed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► mind and made a different auto system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► but like all of them are you just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► at it you're like no you know you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► that didn't work out for you guys you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► didn't quite figure it out your clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► you have some things that are good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► no not for me crisis who's crisis 121 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► Twitter what are the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► things you've learned about podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► hyper critical it's that crisis with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► why it is ciara is is 1 to 100 the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► podcasting yes that is the question I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► guess the most important thing I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► passively able to do it which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► question to begin with like it I've know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► if I've talked about this but my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► fairy pod mother the person who I listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► to who made me think that podcasting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► the thing that I might like to try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► was a fantasy fiction author named mer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► Lafferty she has still has a think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► podcast called well I originally listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► to geek foo action grip which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► gone it's got one got one called I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► should be writing which was a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► for wanna be fiction writers by i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► be fiction writer but then she had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► drop the wannabe when she became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► published author so congratulations door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► but both of those shows were just her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► talking into a microphone about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► writing and geek related things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► it no co-host know anything she produced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► them all herself she sat down in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► of desk she took letters from people she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► read them she talked about writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► what it means to be a good writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► had little segment Annette sponsors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► all those stuff and I love listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► them despite the fact that i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► wannabe fiction writer uh I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► know what this is just one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► sitting where we should his North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► Carolina or something sitting in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► room in front of a microphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► talking and because she's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► person as an interesting thing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► I'm sitting here listening to them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► all right I have interesting things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► say its aim seems like something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► could do and that was years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► ago before you know I I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► those things part started but its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► before five by five and wait for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► know that was I think it was even a gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► in there where like podcasts stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► being a thing for me but that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► that's the most important thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► learned about podcasting is that uh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► one of the things that I am able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► possibly do like you know unlike say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► flamenco dancing or gymnastics or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► something or like oh that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► thing but it doesn't seem like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► that I'm ever going to do this seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► like something I want to try and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► could do it in a way that would not be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► complete failure so that's that say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► most important thing I've learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► almost everything else about podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► dan knows and not me I got a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► all about podcast I just show up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► talk like I don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► what you're doing is I mean when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► doing install the moving pieces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► stuff like that but you're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► hard part well I mean it depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► way you view it like Merle after he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► doing both parts like she set up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► website and got the sponsors and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► know had everything work right away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► RSS feed work and dealt with itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► stuff and bought been within like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► know that is a big important part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► podcasting I just don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► about it cuz I don't do any of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► stuff that's the service / provides so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► can't give any insight into it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► what you mean by Oh some people said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► podcasting sometimes they mean like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► do I physically set up a podcast and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► to show up in iTunes and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► on the other side of it is ah how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► make something in recorded audio form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► that other people actually want to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► to listen to oh it's kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► related to that uh let's see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► question okay what tips does john have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► for an aspiring journalist that wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► grow that would like to grow up to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► just like him Ron Glassman I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/5403">TS</a>]
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01:42:55 ◼ ► mac mini would come out back on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► pro was being updated you didn't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► the brand new mac mini to be faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► the modern-day mac pro and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► not 2007 let's say when the mac pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► were still being updated right of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► apples you know the new mac mini is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► going to be faster than last year's mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► pro because they have a segmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► product line but this was very early the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► beginning of apple every single new mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► was the best mac there ever was and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► SE 30 was like the last of that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► where I was like this is better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► mac SE and the mac plus and even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► than the mac to which was that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► gargantuan you know pc looking thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► had to buy a separate monitor for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► could even put a 24-bit color card into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► the thing which i did so that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► end of the line for that and it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► the best original form factor mac they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► ever made is even things like the mat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► classic and stuff that was back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► age when it's like all right well here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► the mat classic and it's not as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► the modern max but if you want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► dorky little thing that looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► old Mac you can have it like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► totally not or we talking about this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► a high prestige high-class best-in-class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► in every possible way awesome machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► and it was the end of that line and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► was the best original form factor Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► and so that's why it's my favorite and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► had the computer for years like I had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► I that was my computer when i graduated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► college in 1997 and mac SE 30 with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► 24-bit color card in a color monitor it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► tells you how long that thing last if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► you bought it when it was new I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► fine I how many more of these do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► want you can you can cut it off you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► pick how long you want the show to go it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► supply of someone chatroom asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► pancetta prosciutto in my carbonara I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► done all sorts of kind but my wife likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► best a good old-fashioned American bacon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► and so that's what I make most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► time in my karbonn are as sacrilegious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► as that may be i would definitely pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► pinch at over your dildo or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► that's work and guanciale hard to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► and usually more expensive than pancetta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► okay ah let's see I don't do too many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► these people get angry at me because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► I you buy you saying that it's my choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► when people get angry so let me see oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► man how technical died only get too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► technical nice i want i'm trying to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► the ones that are about you about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► man the man this is this is dealt part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► of the show is that dant you working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► submit all the questions but dan is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► arbiter of them so if you you obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► have a theme in mind for the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► you're selecting and that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► the listeners have to accept someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► keeps asking about my wallet it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► costanza wallet it's not super slim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► either it's maybe like inch thick less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► than it it's a trifold uh it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► big I do put into my front pocket now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► back though because i think i put on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► back pocket i would get the costanza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► spine who puts their wall in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► pack of these days you your wallet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► actually really you did like you put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► your back pocket when you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6358">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► gonna be sitting down at some point no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► not if I'm gonna be sitting down I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► actually take it take it out completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► oh you but you're from the Northeast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► aren't you are no people it's easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► pick pocket under your back yeah so I if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► I'm out somewhere it goes in the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► pocket then you can feel that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► someone's sick sore hand your front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► pocket you're more likely to kill ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► might notice yet it's there's too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► but fat you wont I don't feel the lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► yeah I'm feeling lived all right um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► don't I feel like we should stop I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► like we should stop I feel like this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► really good and the rest of them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► they're starting to get mired in really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► specific little details and and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► like that god forbid we get mired yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► yeah I'm last one Michael stieber asks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► turns en paz look will brian powell will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► John ever admit that using a toaster for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► toaster oven for toasting bread and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► bagels is a bad idea removal I admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► I'll show about it I know that is only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► whole big preface on the show is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► yes if you if you it's easier to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► fast toasting even toasting from a slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► toaster but I don't want a slot toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► because i use it for oven like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► and so i don't have room for both you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► know room for both you need to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► problem like things i wanted to toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► your oven that worked it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► admitting a slot toaster is but I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► it on the show go back and listen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► Clark goble what do you see the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► of iCloud being given there are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► wait ok let me this is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► second attempt what do you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► future of iCloud being given there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► still huge problems i'm editing this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► i go with Doc and core data syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► after two years if you try they go keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► plugging away at it uh I think I cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► is probably the last embarrassing rename [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► because it is past some threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► probably pass some threads like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► that again getting by through northeast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► stuff what was it was it Bell Atlantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► there was there was ma belle and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► there was Bell Atlantic which is my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► one of the smaller things when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► broke up 18t and i forget what bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► atlantic change too but like phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► companies back then and still to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► day kept changing their name because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► old phone company would have such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► incredibly terrible reputation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► everyone hated bell atlantic and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► changed or whatever they change it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► like that's how things like verizon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► singular came to exist because those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► new names for old things there they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► to keep changing the name over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► again because people just hated with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► passion and then you know now people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► hate like eighteen t or verizon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► whatever it may be those companies had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► to change the names to that is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► don't want to be in that cycle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► services nobody was you know I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► tool so it's free whatever you know fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► dot Mac did not have a good reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► mobileme did not have a good reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► so they had to keep changing the name to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► say no no seriously it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► good this time and to prove it I'll bail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► then take a 9x yeah 9x was another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► gte yeah someone the chatroom says bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► atlantic plus 9x plus dt equals what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► is now Verizon uh anyway you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► help comcast xfinity oh yeah comcastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► uh so for iCloud I'm hoping this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► last big green name that I cloud passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► suckitude that they can just simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► improve iCloud and it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► improved and every we all know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► problems are uh the problem with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► secrecy is they never beyond saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► now the cloud is the center instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► the digital hub they never articulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► their philosophy of like we have they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► just kind of tea leaf read of like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► is it that each application it gets its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► own container well I guess it's simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► but then how are they gonna share data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► important you could do everything you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► in the apps or maybe email like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► just trying to figure out what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► that you think you're doing and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► it is like imagine that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► master plan maybe there isn't and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► other product is just maybe their plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► is stupid and doesn't doesn't reflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► the needs of their customers but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► they'll keep plugging away at it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6589">TS</a>]
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01:51:38 ◼ ► away from the client or doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkyQUPQ/6698">TS</a>]
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