00:00:00 ◼ ► as a wise man once said Dan don't give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► date that leads to the dark side this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► about by my friend and your host John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/17">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► episode number 96 and there are only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► hundred only a few left to go I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/28">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► like to say thanks very much to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/33">TS</a>]
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00:00:44 ◼ ► the program continues I also like to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/44">TS</a>]
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00:00:52 ◼ ► November there an intuitive mind mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/52">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► brainstorming for your next project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/57">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► organizing your life or planning your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► structure and expand your ideas that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► cloud sharing they got it all check them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► out at my node com hi John Oh Dan how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/66">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► everything going just fine I didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► you online I was worried no you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/76">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► Miriam you're hiding I'm hiding in plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► sight is they say yep all right a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/83">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► notes on today's show I can't tell when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► I have a lot of notes if it will be long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/91">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► or short but I do have a lot of notes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► we better get going let's do it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► should we start with do you think why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► am not privy to your notes so I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► know we start with follow-up dan what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► follow-up I love the follow-up segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► alright first bit of fall is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► wii u we talked about in the past couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► sure now let me I have an announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► to make alright already already a wii u [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► a black deluxe wii u is winging its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/121">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► to you hopefully for arrival to you next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► week well that's excellent dan thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► very much and thank you do whoever hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/132">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► to source that that will remain a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► until later my secret benefactor that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► right I mean I'm the benefactor but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► were the middleman and they will be they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/144">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► will be well compensated for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► efforts or middle woman middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► middle man okay it's fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► forty-nine percent of the population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► ruled in 51% ruled out so once this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/155">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► arrives I'll have to immediately unpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► it and set it up and try to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► playing and then we'll see what showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► that ends up fitting in yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► cuz i have to i like a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► games are multiplayer so I'm gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► to enlist the family to you know kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► test the game and mom test it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► know all sorts of other stuff so I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► report back yes this will be excited but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► question do you it the the wii u comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► with them like the one controller with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► the screen in it and the deluxe set has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► like a little bass and little charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► and comes with a game and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► things um it will that be sufficient for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/197">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► understand it uses you can use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► regular we style controllers and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► like that with it do you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► you're said it has an hdmi connector I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► mean are you set up to go is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► anything else you'll need to give this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► the proper check out or anything I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► I've got everything I've got a bucket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► full of like old we accessories I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/217">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► controllers of course they're white not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► Nintendo has decided to do it stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► really wish they had offered two colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► in two different models and then I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► have gotten a deluxe one in white right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► that's not what they did but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► have all the peripherals and I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► all set on everything else I I may end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► controller but I don't think you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► need that to play any of the launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► games or anything well I went I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► sort of potentially source another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► controller for you as I was resour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► researching all of this and I went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/252">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► controllers that they're larger they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► more like I don't know can I say an Xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► style yeah they clearly look like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► Xbox controller okay and I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► wireless as opposed to courted but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► things are really tough to find like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► almost if not as hard as the Wii U [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► console itself defined right now yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► imagined I mean eventually I'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► enough peripherals and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► but immediately I just expect to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► system and the transfer process from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► wii and then play the pac ingame which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► is supposed to demonstrate all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► different features of the you know lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► controllers in lots of different ways so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► that'll be a good test I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► games will you this is yours to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► just to be clear this isn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► this isn't a loaner this is yours well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► will you be able to get your own games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► for do we need to send some games along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► maybe we'll send some games I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► interested in like I'm er actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► I'm meriden in the oh yeah probably that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► one although I do prefer the 3d marios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► to the 2d ones but I the Nintendo land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► sufficient to put the thing through its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► paces and zombie you even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► looks interesting to me i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► would actually play that mmm yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► anyway uh so sorry to interrupt with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► the early i guess it's gonna be a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► declared it yeah he has called it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► first time alright yes this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► bit is tweet from cable sasser the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► mean intimate community member founder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► of panic software who's also a gamer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► he tweeted that the Wii U gamepad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► really good at pointing out AV delays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► your home theater so he says he put his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► TV into game mode which we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► about in past shows it's the mode some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► televisions have to reduce the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► processing steps they do to video in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► hopes of reducing the latency between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► the time the signal hits the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► appears on the television and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► he's put his receiver in pure direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► mode if you have a receiver between your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► sometimes the receivers have a mode that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► will also not try to do any processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► on the audio or the video or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► because the reason it shows delays is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► because the wii u sends the wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/396">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► the gamepad and then you can see like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► you run it where it's running the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► thing on both screens you can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/405">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► wow look and you can visually without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► even measuring equipment just see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/408">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► the gamepad is ahead of where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► television is despite the fact that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/411">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► talked about in the last show that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► gamepad is actually one sixtieth of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► second behind the signal coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► the back of the wii u along the hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► cable but all the other parts of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► system may be introducing delays and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► ends up that it looks like the gamepad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► is way ahead so that's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► result of this technology that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► are going to find out exactly how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► lag is in there a be setups as another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► article that someone sent along our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► VentureBeat it's the title is forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/438">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► Playstations terrible little controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► with the accelerometers in it the Wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► U's gamepad has nine axis control it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► like the Gillette razor thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► method we're doing five blades are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► that's the onion story but it became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► reality right this preposterous they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► never do five blades what a joke and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► it's like can we dude can we do 69 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► access control are there nine axes how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► many X's are there it seems like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► should only be XY and Z but now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► doing 90 so if you read the article i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► linked to in the show notes you will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► that what they're basically doing is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► article adding more redundant sensors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► an effort to be able to filter out noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► and stuff like that so the article talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► about the difference between you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► accelerometers and stuff that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► envision kind of as like a this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► what they actually are but imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/492">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► t-shaped wooden channel with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/493">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► steel ball in it or something and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► tilt it the steel ball rolls to one end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► of the thing or the other and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/501">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► another steel ball going in the left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► right one you know like that's measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► you're tilting in different axes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► stuff and a lot of those things are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► relative what you also need is absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► positioning so you can say regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► support I just did with this device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► shook it I wave did I moved from left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► absolute orientation with respect to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► know basically gravity with respect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► the earth and so you all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► to try to figure that out including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► magnetic field to sort of you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► tell where is this thing pointing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► the floor of your room or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► regardless of how it got there how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► shook her how it was wiggled or how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► know so we can keep track of where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► and apparently the gamepad has many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► sensors and many more sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► systems to do this even better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► wii motionplus it's in the existing wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► remote controls so i'm looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► to seeing how much that improves thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and I really hope as does this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► that they backport this tech to the wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► remote controls because anything you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► do to you know it's not like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► feature that we were no control supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► to already do this but anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► played Skyward Sword on the wii knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► that you have to you know recenter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► and recalibrate and do all the stuffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► and then that we use is the IR signaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► as a sort of less resort orientation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/573">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► mechanism where the IR signal is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► from the top your television in a fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► position I'm going to really lose itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► if you can point it back towards the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► you can recalibrate it and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► a big mess hopefully the gamepad does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► better so I'm looking forward to seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► how well that goes Steve holes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/588">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► burdened with a minor point about video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► latency on the Wii U gamepad he pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► out the gamepad's resolution is 854 x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► 480 it's not the full resolution of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/599">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► a 1080p television which is 1920 x 1080 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► and it's not even you know 720p which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► nineteen richest 1280 by 720 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/608">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► probably scales down the video for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► transmitting and you say well that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► it makes it easier doesn't need to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► the full signal well that's bandwidth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► scaling down the signal actually adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► latency so it's even more impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► that it can match take the video output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► scale it down and then send the scaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► down version but it does mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► things on the gamepad might not look as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► outputting 1080p however the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► console games is almost all console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► games have a much smaller render target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► than the output resolution it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► the tricks they do to get performance as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/642">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► they will the game will be rendered at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► resolution that's smaller than 1080p and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► sometimes even smaller than 720p just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► and then that's that's the native pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► of the game edge right and then some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► other part of the GPU right before being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► out outputting the thing will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► simply scale that image up to fill 720p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► or to fill 1080p so a lot of the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► this should be scare quotes around a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► of the games and say that this game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► isn't a 1080p like a lot of the time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► smaller than both of those and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► simply upscaling for those different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► resolutions and the games that are truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► native 1080p and 720p come more common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► with time but in the current generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► of consoles which have similar power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► the wii u mini games still render have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► smaller render targets than the output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/685">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► target nothing is ever simple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► no it isn't alright so last week i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► mentioned the idea that regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► who were interested in this topic could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/697">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► learn about how computers work from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► gate level on up from you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► didn't and gates and stuff like that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► the way up to how a modern computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► works if you chop off the low end like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► not learning about chemistry and physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► and doping and silicon chips and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► like that that removes a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► really esoteric difficult understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► stuff but from the gates on up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► understand and i said that didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► of any good resources to learn that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► know other than going to school for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► years we're just kind of burdensome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/725">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► repeatedly for many other people like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► was basically I don't think again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► just two suggestions and tons of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► suggested these few things by Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► and email and stuff so they must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/739">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► really good the first one is the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► called code by Charles petzold at yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► petzl that's right the hidden language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► software is link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/749">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► Kieran Healy was the first one suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► he says is that it begins with a lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► conceptual introduction to boolean logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► and build step by step up to a tour of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► the motorola 68000 series and the intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/759">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► motherboards and programming languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► it's really beautifully constructed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► wonderfully clear book a minor classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► really and someone else whose name i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► shamefully did not include in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► notes but emailed right after here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► says it explains how to build a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► from the ground up in a very accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► way starts with information theory in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► Morse code and then from telegraphy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► know using a telegraph relays to logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► gates on words to building ram cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► whatnot there's recommended by a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► and it blew my mind that is possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► explain this stuff in an accessible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► so if you want a book to learn this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► stuff there you go charles pets olds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► code which is an older book but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► stuff really hasn't changed and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► second very popular suggestion was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► website / sort of build it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► course material / video series / text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► book / you know internet multimedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► extravaganza it is called from NAND to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► Tetris building am under modern computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► from first principles the website is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► triple w nand to the number to tetris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/819">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► org also in the show notes as the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► says it contains all the software tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► and project materials necessary to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► a general-purpose computer system from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/829">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► the ground up we also provide a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► lecture is designed to support a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► course on the subject this is aimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► students instructors and self learners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► everything is free and open source blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► blah so there you go you have two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► to take a crack of this one if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► want to read a book that's a great book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► interactively online or watch videos or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► sort of do it do it yourself course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► want man to tetris good old internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► it's got something for everything this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► next one is a bit of follow-up from two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► shows ago but i missed it it was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► show notes somehow i missed it but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► new thing lately i put something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► notes and then just scan over it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► shame ah moore's law was mentioned many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► shows ago and i had said on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► that maybe i did maybe remember i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► things forgetting that i've already done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► this fall if any way you can tell me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► might say that's an i don't care how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► many times you follow people love this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► love it that moore's law was two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► or was one year i listed originally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► it's actually two years is from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► wikipedia article Moore's Law is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► observation that blah blah blah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► number of transistors on integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► circuit doubles approximately every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► years and it says the period is often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► executive David house who predicted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► period for doubling and ship performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► which is not quite the same thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► number of transistors in his kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► fudgy anyway so or was original law two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► years often quoted as 18 months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► often misquoted by me as 12 months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► apparently so apologize for the error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► there one more random one before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► producing even more follow up this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► Andrew Burwell he was one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► people to grant me this story on makanan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► that says OS ten ten point eight point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► three beta supports the radeon HD 7900 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► this is nothing are straddling but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► exciting whenever we see a new beta of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► OS 10 with new video drivers because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► suggests that future max are coming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► support that include this hardware cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► otherwise why would I would Apple have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/952">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► drivers for it right and this hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► is radeon is it AMD / 80 is like top-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/956">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► very fast video cards and where would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► they put a card like that I suppose they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► could put one in an imac maybe it'd mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► they have room in there they could come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► up with the cooling solution but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► doesn't seem like what they normally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► something Mac Pro caliber which we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► hope is coming in 2013 again Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► said something for people who like mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► pros will be coming in 2013 if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► something has this video card you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/985">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► card from this video card series I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► you would call them I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► happy so all things are continuing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► pace for 2013 resurrection of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► that will make me happy that may or may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► not be a mac pro so thumbs up on that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► the show notes if you would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► oggle the the details sugar turns 5 by 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► that TV such hypercritical / 96 yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► what's the next part we have is all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► Intel follow-up jeez it's like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1018">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► show all by itself e I've got Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► miscellaneous follow-ups and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► shows topic the Intel foul-up could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► long should we should we do a sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► before then then you can just dive right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► in and take all the time you need but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► gets a good idea koku that is it koku or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► Co Co Co Q coke you I've been saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► wrong it's a fresh approach for personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► finance management doesn't matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► tracking your money simple and intuitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► and now you can get this for the mac for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► the iphone in both of the app stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► this is what's cool about it the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► they sync via iCloud so your data stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► consistent whether you're at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► whether you're on the go and this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► favorite part of the app is it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► this smart tagging system it allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► to describe the transactions that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► make in a way that's meaningful to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► it doesn't impose its own hierarchy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► it's it's about how you work how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► track your own finances you define it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► and then you use these reports that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► show a personalized financial picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► that gives it a real insight into how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► you're spending your money or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► spending your money John based on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► categories that you've created that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► smart lists ooh they're kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► smart playlists but there for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► transactions so you can actually see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► the way you want to see it they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► featured in the mac app store but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► great thing is that both apps are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► sale now during this special run they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► doing with us for half price so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► 2999 for the mac and a 499 for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► iphone is the regular price half price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► now half price 1499 for the mac buck 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► for the iphone co q app kok you AP p dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► com go check them out Coco AB they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► really awesome Intel well we saw that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► got some real time follow up in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► room first I've been interests if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► thinks they'll be an improvement on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► controls on wii games when playing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► the wii u if they release new wiimotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► with the new internals new improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► internals i think there could be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► as far as the wii system is concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► when we use in wii emulation well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► would still just like look like a normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► wii remote it would just have like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► know it would just be more reliable more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► difficult to confuse and you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► you know it should look the same it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► actually possible if they did that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► it's not going to make an improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► who's you can't play wii games with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► gamepad right so it's not gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► improvement too late unless they release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► improved wii u controls o mine Fed wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► me to come back at 2013 when i get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► new mac pro so we can have a worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► that if and when it happens dan Hickson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► wants to say that ogle has a long oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► it's not oggle i always say oggle i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► conversation a lot but yeah he's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► it's a long ago sorry about that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► right intel a quick review this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► about apple and whether they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► use intel chips and their macs and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► is relative to arm the other various arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► CPUs and all that business so at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► point in talking about risk and siskin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► until an arm i talked about segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► registers on intel cpus which were used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► way back when to address memory in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► segmented manner where your memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► addresses in your code would be offsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► from a segment and you'd change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► segment register and then the offsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► would be relative to that and all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► of stuff like that which is not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► nowadays in modern architectures but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► still exists on the cpus for backward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► compatibility and i said that how if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► simplify intel cpus my anonymous source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► said that segmentation would be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► to remove well daniel cohen wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► point out the interesting things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► people are doing one of the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► things that people are doing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► segment registers in Google's Native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► Client project which I have link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► show notes it's their way to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► run native code on your machine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► delivered via the web it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► job our JavaScript or whatever they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► bunch of really clever hacks to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► untrusted x86 code sort of in a sandbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► in a way that is safer because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► don't want you know you to load a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► webpage and then it runs arbitrary code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► on your cpu because that would be bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► alright so they need some way to to lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► it down and they they use segmentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► the segment registers as a means of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► enforcing that kind of security and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► there's a paper where they describe how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► this is done it's in the show notes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► PDF if you want to take a look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► other cpus of similar ways to do similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► things it's not like segment registers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► are the only way to do this but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► thought it was interesting because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► shows the resourcefulness of engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► that they're finding something useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► do with a feature it's not no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► needed for its old intended purpose but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► backward compatibility reasons i we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► use the hardware for something so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► interesting and then the second use is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► from andrew oh goodness andrew big house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► goss oh goodness i got nothing on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► one sv e ik au s Kas sorry andrew should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► have practiced it's amazing how i copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► and paste these names into my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► moment and never think that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► can have to say this name maybe take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► so like during the show you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► surprised but but you know there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► eight points out that the x86 segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► registers are used to define privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► levels you know ring 0 ring one whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► in in windows are in you know some x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► operating systems and windows also uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► them for thread-local storage and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► don't know what that ring 0 businesses I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► put a link in the show notes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► relevant Wikipedia page it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► protection domains where the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► privileged code runs in ring 0 I hope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► got that right or not backwards and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► know see you I you the code runs in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► privileges and stuff like that so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► another interesting use of the segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► registers but just maybe closer to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► intended purpose but still kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► interesting alright moving on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► meteor business stuff here 9to5 mac had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► a story this week with a great prefix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► you know they do that bunch of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► colon and then the headline so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► they're prefixes wild speculation Cohen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► alright well you know you're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► speculation Cohen y 2 billion dollar AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► purchase would be a puzzle piece fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► Apple hmm way to turn a phrase their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► puzzle piece fit okay that link is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► the show notes the idea is hey hey guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► what have happened what AMD because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► make x86 CPUs and even though Apple thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► far has not chosen to go with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► because intel has better CPUs for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► money that use less power that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► faster and blah blah blah blah blah AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► might have some good stuff too yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► they're out there trying to sell their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► texas campus to raise money and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► they want to like get it back they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► gonna sell it unlikely sit back for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► something i don't know it's weird yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► but like and the reason this comes up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► cuz AMD is like as is not doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► well like so people you know people look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► at it and look into a plane maybe Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► could buy them because hey maybe you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► a cheap cuz like they're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► terribly but in the Intel vs AMD war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► which it once looked like AMD might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► getting the upper hand now it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► poor AMD right so yeah I mean Intel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► got its own problems too but AMD may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► a bargain so thinking about this I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► first of all Apple certainly has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► of a 100 billion or more in cash and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► know AMD they could buy for only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► couple billion so yeah it's bargain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► it would be a way to get some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► great CPU and GPU town because remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► AMD bought a TI and so they've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► all the people from ati are part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► that deal and those guys really no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► high-end GPUs and that's some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► talent and as much as I'm loath to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► think about things like this I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► they have tons of patents from a TI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► AMD is probably got its own patents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► AMD as we noted before is the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► invented x86 64 and yeah so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► valuable assets in AMD I don't but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► thing about it is I don't think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► really wants to continue making CPUs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► GPUs so if they bought AMD it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► probably mean the end of selling x86 CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► to PC clone makers and it might even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► the end of selling discrete GPUs to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► know PC makers like they would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► become oh this is our new cpu and GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► team and i don't even know how you swing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► that because they're all geographically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► I you know diverse and located in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► different offices all over the place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► there's tons of weird redundancy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► apple and it seems to me that a buyout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► would mean the end of AMD as we know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► Apple would get the patents but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► know how much of the staff they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► retain it would be like an expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► ugly unreliable way to buy talent but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► the other hand I this article points out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► and as Apple said itself and its press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► release about the big mens rea move shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► reshuffle to be talked about a few shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► ago Apple did say it has quote ambitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► plans for the future unquote for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► semiconductor teams so that would sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► be ambitious you know by AMD and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► make your own stuff using all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► talented teams it just it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► like a not a particularly easy business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► deal to me and part of me is like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► wait long enough they might go out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► business and you can scoop those guys up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► for a lot less money you know yeah or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► Intel would just hire them all I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► with hiring people people like to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► it's like oh if we if we get AMD we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► all those people are we can hire all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► those people's like no because they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► live all over the country and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► apple doesn't really like people to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► like they like to have you in California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► if they can help but especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► you're you know working on some mage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► part of their product strategy they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► different campuses in other places and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► telecommuting and it would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► difficult to sort of take all of AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► scattered people from AMD proper and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► TI and somehow make remote campuses or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► research facilities that contribute to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► is just I don't you know you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► those people say oh well we're all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► to move our families to California and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► live right near and cheese yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► it's very difficult to hire people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► because you can't pay them enough or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► they don't like you but because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► want to live where they live like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► is a big factor in hiring people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► you're raising a family a certain place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► you know it's very difficult for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► reasonable lot of money to uproot your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► entire family move someplace else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► alright next story is from semi accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► which is a clever website name and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► what glean from reading couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► stories there it is accurate yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► the title d sensational title is Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► kills off the desktop pcs go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► this is an article from someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► obviously does not like this decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► bemoaning the fact that broadwell will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► not come in an LG a package so that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► more removable CPU so broad whale is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► 14 nanometer shrink of Haswell coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► you know after as well uh and intel has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► said that they're not going to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► one of those on an LG a package LGA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► stands for land grid array and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► a mounting mechanism for the cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► this kind of mounting mechanism has pins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► on the motherboard and then you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► that's why it's called like a land grid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► i guess give the little pins are on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► land and you put the chip on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and sort of clamp it down and the chins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► the chips got little contacts and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► push down on the pins so the pins are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► the socket and not on the little chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► motherboard makers make a motherboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► and they just have a little square hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► where are you you by the cpu separately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► pick whichever one you want from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► certain compatible range and stick it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► here MSD know it's killing the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► introduce I all we all are all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► things are going to be soldered to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► logic board that means the only people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► who can make logic boards or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► that you can all have to buy the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► unit you can't you know shop around I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► gonna buy this motherboard and cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► this video card and plug it all together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► I obviously don't care about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► because i don't like building pcs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► way and intel obviously either doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► think that's the future is just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► to rest more control over we talked two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► before a last show about trying to intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► trying to get more control over its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► products by making a system where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► controls more of the components so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► can make it all them low voltage and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► power-hungry and to do that it's rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► than trying to coerce everyone else into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► doing is making like a speck and say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► must use this you must use that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► motherboard and solder the cpu wander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► and this is what you get and tough luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► which is a big change from the old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► where everyone would do their little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► business and stick to their knitting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► this guy would make the cpu and this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► would make the motherboard chipset in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► motherboard and then assemblers would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► build them all together yeah and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► that sort of interchangeable parts type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► thing is definitely falling by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► wayside in favor of deeply vertically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► integrated products all the way down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► everything squished onto his few chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► as possible and then one company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► responsible for building the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► system and it's not like a mix-and-match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► thing piece mix-and-match leads to mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► and match as we talked about I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► a show a while ago leads to devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► look like typical dell laptops from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► few years ago and they do not look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► MacBook Airs of today where every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► soldered on including the RAM and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► the battery is non-removable and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► just a a custom-designed thing from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► ground up like a phone and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► clearly the way things are going so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► know I'm not surprised by the change I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► don't have a problem with it but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► people are upset alright next few bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► here are about what the heck Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► going to do for its next series of CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► both for max and for handheld stuffs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► first story is more estetica headline is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► apple may tap TSMC to move the a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► mobile chips to 28 nanometer process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► TSMC is Thailand Taiwan Semiconductor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► Manufacturing Corporation and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► stories about how currently Samsung is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► the sole source for the a5 the a6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► the a6 s processors right and Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► and Apple don't particularly get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► they're busy suing each other or patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► Samsung is busy aping the look and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► of apples devices and stores and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► know who knows maybe they're giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► their employees haircuts the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► apples and blight haircuts they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► definitely copying Apple talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► this in the show where I called their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► behavior dishonorable whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► it's illegal or immoral and I thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► that it's certainly dishonorable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► Samsung is the only other big player in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► the market that's making profit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► smartphone business and so Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► Samsung are going head-to-head here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► kind of bad when you're paying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► competitor billions of dollars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► manufacture the critical components of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► your most popular product so I upholster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► looking for a way out there but so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► Samsung has you know it's the best been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► the best bet the best game in town for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► manufacturing these parts and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► the earlier parts like the a foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► stuff used samsung technology samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► design samsung resources to get done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► the a6 is moved much farther away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► that where apple's doing design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► house and trying to use sams lima like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► fab so they're trying to extricate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► question is who else out there can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► the number of chips that that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► needs at the process they want and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► article speculating about them moving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► TSMC which is just a fab they'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► your thing you give them the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► possibility that's one of the places I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► go I think we mentioned this a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► shows you as well the article points out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► that TSMC a recently rebuffed attempts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► from both Apple and Qualcomm to gain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► exclusive access to its fab capacity so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► Apple and Qualcomm have both been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► courting TSMC to say sign an exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► contract you will only make stuff for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► at this process note in this factory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► they don't want to do it because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► like hemming them in they want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► free agent you know everyone comes to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► will will fab for the highest bidder but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► we don't want to get locked into just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► one bidder there so it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► dance there and the other question is do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► they have the capacity are they going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► be able to compete again they're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► about 28-nanometer here they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► talking about 22 which Intel's currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► fab again that's certainly not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► about 14 which Intel is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► fabbing out by next year so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► trying to make a deal for next year to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► do 28-nanometer having the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► thing about this article and why part in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► the show notes is that it has one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► those great promoted comments that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► mote one of the better ones so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► appears alongside the article because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► normally on our Zhou comments are hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► entirely unless you click on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► so this one is from Sur Omega ours he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► a commenter and not an arse writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► he says it will happen meaning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► Apple's going to go to TSMC but TSMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► needs to beef up capacity they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► get on board with apple style vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► financing that goes with most of apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► suppliers were apple fronts the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► 28-nanometer fab and then the vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► pays them back over time for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► chips that are made so that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► Apple does business with these things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► that it will put it's something we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► some is tremendous capital to fund the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► creation of these things or to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► machines like for the aluminum machining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► and stuff like that and enter into sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► of financial dear ones like we buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► stuff for you and then you pay us back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► in the product you create I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► why they structure the deal this way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► shirts some sort of business thing cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► ism thing that I don't understand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► the two his two points are one the TSMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► needs tons of capacity because can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► very difficult to to fulfill apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► orders and to TSMC needs to get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► this kind of financial arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► because apparently it's what Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► and he says see the purported investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► in sharps new igzo LCD facilities are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► also getting pulled into 2012 IGZO is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► indium gallium zinc oxide show link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► the show notes to the Wikipedia page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► explaining it's a process for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► lcds but is another type of investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► where Apple will front the money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► then you get paid back in parts that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► made Cyril mega RS continues based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► migration to 20 nanometers I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► expect that Apple to get it here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► year Apple does a cute three launch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► the next iPhones and iPads we could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► an a7 chip built on 28 nanometer for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► 2013 products and a8 chip built on 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► nanometer for the 2014 product so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► in this speculation he's saying in 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► Apple could be on 20 nanometer but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► kind of depressing if you consider that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► Intel's on 22 nanometer now and by 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► is going to be on 14 nanometer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► anyway continuing waiting another full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► year for 20 nanometer is no big deal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► Apple since the biggest power drain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► out of their control the LCDs and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► cellular radio is consumed far more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► that's kind of true but like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► out of their control like that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► they're trying to invest in LCD things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► they're trying to get the the power the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► power consumption of the LCD is now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► cellular radio stuff I wouldn't assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► that so out of their control because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► of the things that I thought about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► semiconductor is what if Apple starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► get into the cell radio business to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► to make super low power stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► commenter continues switching to IGZO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► and I wonderful is the way you pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► that without reading the letters anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► especially to IGZO we should we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► Qualcomm's third gen LTE chips will cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► power usage enough to make a red an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► or ipad many thin again so you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► that just by getting the lower power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► screens and and new LTE chipsets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► qualcomm or whoever and a lower process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► size that will cut power usage enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► for her you know things like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► mini to go retina or four to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► the big ipad thinner again even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► they're only on 20 nanometer by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► point so that is one commenters opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► there i thought it was interesting next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► article is a similar vintage it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► fortune if samsung doesn't supply apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► processors who will so here is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► analyst i meet dari jaani jaani dari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► jaani jaani like that it's a nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► bullet point list of all right who if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► it's not going to be Samsung who can fab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► for Apple and he gives a couple choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► one is Intel and here is this the quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► about this intel has fat has three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► foundry partners including a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► names of companies that i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► try to pronounce until is currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► generations plus FinFET FinFET as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► arrangement a physical arrangement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► the stuff on the silicon chip the 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► transistor type thing which is a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► making transistors with a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► different layout of layers on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► each other anyway comparing 22 nanometer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► x86 SMI chips to apples arm-based 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► nanometer this gap could widen is until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► moves to 14 nanometer production in 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► a notable dynamic would be by becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► foundry for Apple it may dilute its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► mobile ambitions blah blah blah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► there's Intel's one option we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► about that last time the next is a TSMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► they would have to expend a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► to get their capacity up to apples needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► and then GlobalFoundries is another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► there apparently working on 20 nanometer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► process but again questions about if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► they have the capacity to fab that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► and the final option is go vertical what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► have apple decides to do their own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► build their own fabs he says this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► unlikely but you know you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► anything out when a company has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► hundred billion dollars and says it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► ambitious semiconductor plans so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► knows so there are some shopkins there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► and finally the most late-breaking one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► elmer-dewitt also it for any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► friend of the show yes in our enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► Apple 2 point 0 section of their site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► says RBC Intel and talks with Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► build iphone processors so here you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► this is another person from the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► analyst group saying a speculation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► speculation about until fabbing here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► how such a deal might work and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► know if is one of those things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► here's how this such a deal might work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► int int like it's based on information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► on that you can't say or if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► plain old speculation like I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► this is how it could work it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► that this type of story wouldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► underlying seed of truth like someone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► Intel mentioned that they had proposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► this or that they might consider it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► who knows but anyway the deal is it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► possible fantasy speculated deal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► preferred architecture for the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► meaning they would fab ARM chips in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► return Apple would agree to switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► x86 in the iPad we talked about last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► show how intel has a roadmap of chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► that will eventually be in a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► envelope that can fit an iPad scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► device so maybe that's the deal maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► until the locate look will fab your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► chips for your little tiny phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► iPods and stuff and we'll fab your arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► chips using our awesome process in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► return you agree to put x86 in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► iPad's huh I don't know if Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► agree to that because it would be weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► you have to start building fat binaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► for the App Store and I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► there you go and according to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► analyst what's his name something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► Friedman apples demand for 12-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► system-on-a-chip wafers could be not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► that they're 12 inch chips but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► could approach 415,000 outstripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► Samsung's ability to supply so be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► question keeps coming up not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► because apple hates Samsung but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► like Samsung doesn't even have the fab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► capacity to manufacture as many chips as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Apple's going to need in 2013 so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► obviously Samsung could increase its fab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► capacity but seems like apples looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► for a way out and so they're looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► someone with more capacity and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► we believe that intel has the upper hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► due to limitations of capacity at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► alternative sources chiefly TSMC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► GlobalFoundries so this is why he's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► analyst is leaning on the Intel can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► was like look no we don't think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► else has the capacity no matter how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► money Apple spends on it i guess if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► build them new fabs and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► the apples best bet is Intel because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► intel has the capacity we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► in LA intel has been expanding its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► capacity of its 14 animator things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► seemingly far beyond what it needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► manufacture its own stuff perhaps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► preparation for to say hey Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► know we're not only we have the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► process we also have the most capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► let's do a deal but those x86 trips in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► the iPad and we'll fab your arm chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► more stuff to watch and finally on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► Intel topic finally on the Intel top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► this is our good old anonymous source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► from last show back with some more all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► right bits yes love this guy or Guzman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► we don't know it we're just gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► anonymous choice right now um last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► i talked about how as well was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► slightly wider architecture than the Ivy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► Bridge chips it wasn't a big radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► change he replied back with some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► additional changes that he thought were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► significant I still say they're not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► significant as like you know the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► from netburst decor or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► they're worth noting as well adds fused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► multiply ad or f MA as it's often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► abbreviated which is the feature the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► PowerPC chaps I think altivec had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► ages ago was one of those things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► set out as an advantage of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► PowerPC architecture but anyway fuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► multiply ad is where it was what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► products two numbers together and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► take the product that multiplication and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► you add it to an accumulator and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► doing like lots of 3d math and vector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► math and stuff like that and if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► hardware for it where you can say do do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► a fuse multiply ad and it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► single instruction instead of having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► multiply the two numbers together take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► the resultant edge or another one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► common enough that it's worth being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► built into hardware and so as well has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► that and I think it's part of a VX to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► VX is there vector extension that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► you know we had SSC one two or three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► four now they've got a B X and avx2 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► you can see how that's going and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► high-performance computing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► probably true and also there's software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► trent not software to the actual menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► hardware support for transactional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► memory transactional memory is confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► and esoteric I've put a link into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► show notes for Ars Technica article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► titled transactional memory going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► mainstream with intel has as well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► I'll try to summarize transactional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► memory the gist of transactional memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► is rather than the old way of when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► have multiple threads modifying the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► data structures in memory of like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► a lock were some guy grabs and locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► Sissoko everyone else I've got the lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► structure and it fiddles with it secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► that no one else could possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► fiddling with it because they would all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► try to grab the lock and he has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► thinks it's nope you can't grab block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► I've got it when he's done he releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► the lock and then someone else goes oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► modifies the memory and so on so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► lock based you know resolving contention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► with the lock is all well and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► except this is problems about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► granular do you make the locks like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► you put a lock on an entire giant data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► structure you just put locks on little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► parts of it and is you know does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► lock block out everybody in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► universe or just blocks out people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► want to my brother by this one section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► so lock granularity is a problem also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► writing lock based code like writing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► code for it if you if you have someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► forget to grab the lock and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► modify it accidentally you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► everyone grabs lock make sure locks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► grabbed on the right order or else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► get deadlock and all the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► that are difficult to deal with so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► transactional memory is supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► so it's sometimes called like lock free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► programming where you don't try to grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► a lock and what happens that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► just tries to do everything at once with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► the idea that in most cases there won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► be a conflict because the lock thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► like always preventative like oh if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► conflict with each other so I better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► grab this lock and maybe it's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► that there would have been no conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► in the car it's like cars going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► an intersection with no traffic light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► maybe they do subtle will sail past each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► other and no one would have hit each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► other would have been fine why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► everyone always have to have this lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► transactional memory is like no box just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► try to do what you were going to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► then the CPU keeps track in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► hardware transactional memory the CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► keeps track of whether there actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► was a collision so everybody just tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► to do what they're going to do and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► the end of it says all right everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► did what they were going to do did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► someone else try to do something at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► same time you were doing it and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► did they'll say oops oh that didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► out we had a collision it will roll back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► everything you did and say you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► collision it's sort of like optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► locking but not really but anyway it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► way for you for the programmer to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► their programs without having to grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► locks and everything as long as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► handle the fact that in there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► hopefully rare case where there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► collision they will just be asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► retry their operation it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► basically the opposite is expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► there not to be a conflict and handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► when there is instead of expecting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► to be a conflict in preventing it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► ever happen and so this as well has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► as hardware support with this feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► and it does it in a particularly clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► correctly on both ships that do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► don't support transactional memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► features so they have like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► prefix on their instructions and Haswell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► processors will honor the prefix and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► the transactional memory stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► rollback stuff but other processes will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► ignore the prefix and just treated as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► locked command so you can write the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► code and an old process it just runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► like lock code like all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► crowd to grab grab the lock and wait if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► they can't get it and you know works the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► old way but has well process it will try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► to do the transaction of everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► you know roll everything back of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► conflicted but if it didn't it'll sail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► right through so i have my own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► doubts about the practical usefulness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► transactional memory as do many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► people because it's been implemented in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► software before and has not set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► world on fire despite the theoretical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► usefulness of it may be implementing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► hardware will help but i'm not sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► many people use these features or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► contention bound or that actually maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► the locking code as annoying it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► the right maybe it will actually still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► perform better or maybe it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► difficult to handle the conflict cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► transaction ah don't know but it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► so that's a speculative feature and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► may turn out to be significant and may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► just be like oh well I didn't quite work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► out and also the cache bandwidth on as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► well has doubled without any latency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► penalty this person like to point out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► I put a link in the show notes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► anonymous recommended to the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► architecture you can read all about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► oh and one more thing about I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► else unless show about has well being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► able to wake up and sleep really quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► as a way to save memory by keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► mentioned how until was you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► people but voltage regulators and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► like that why voltage reg goes keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► coming up but I must have read this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► had it in the back of my mind why was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► such an issue is that Intel's Haswell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► has an on divulge regulator and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► allows it to wake up and sleep even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► quickly because I'm die but also it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► allows it to make sure that the chip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► only using the voltage that it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► needs to do whatever its being asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► you so if half the chip is shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► because you know you don't need those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► execution units for this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► micro second or whatever it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► shame if the voltage regulator is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► sending the chip like the full voltage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► it would normally need if everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► turned on so that source says the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► benefit is that it allows Intel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► throttle voltage very quickly so we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► operate at the most efficient voltage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► for the for the given workload and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► vaulted has a quadratic effect on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► power consumption it's great that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► know it's not just linear if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► the voltage you have not just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► power as also you know a nice savings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► having thing on die instead of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► separate chip or whatever so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► another advantage of has well there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► interesting part of this anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► feedback last show I spent a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► while talking about tick tock and how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► thought it was weird like one thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► a tick when I thought it should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► talk because it seemed to me that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► like tick the important thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► talk and then tick and then the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► talk and I expected tick to be like Oh a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► brand new architecture and then talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► would be just be shrinking and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► people sent me mnemonics to remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► saying well tick has an eye in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► shrink has an ISO tick is the shrink or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► just remember is the opposite of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► you think it is or whatever but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► source says the reason in dell has tick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► first is that it thinks it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► was a manufacturing company first and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► design house second so the reason tick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► is the important thing like they agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► apparently agree with me that tick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► like the big important thing and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► important part look at us we're Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► we've shrunk process again now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► smallest feature size has gone down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► talk is yet we'll make new architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► or whatever but tick you know we'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► another shrink at another example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► source says is that intel says tape in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► instead of taping out we heard the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► taping out never heard that never come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► on no you build pcs yours know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► heard now tapping out yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► different so taping out is when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► done designing a processor I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► has to do with in that use actual tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► to sort of lay out how the chip was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► going to be laid out but anyway the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► holds on it so you're done designing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► the process is going to do you tape out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► and you send this design to your fab and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► they build the thing that you've taped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► out right an Intel calls it taping in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► the source so this is probably help it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► at healthy attitude because Intel didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► have a process advantage there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► much the design team could do to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► x86 competitive with the arm ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► at this point so taping inverse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► taping out it's a difference in mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► there's no different than what actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► happens like they still you know send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► the design to the fabric Intel design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► files are converted to fab file formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► verified by the fab and then the masks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► are created the difference is in mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► in design shops they tape out to the fab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► when the fab receives them they tape in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► so Intel calls it tape in as a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► making teams understand how until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► identifies itself it's taping in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► get you know Intel gets the design from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► all those designer guys who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► make the chip taping in to us Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► Intel doesn't tape out to anyone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► tape in from the people who designed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► chips so it's interesting and I had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► would not have guessed that Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► thought of itself this way I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► thought of thought that Intel probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► found itself as a great designer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► chips that happens to have great fabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► and this source seems to say that Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► manufacturer that just happens to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► team of people who design chips it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► then manufacturers after they tape in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► the designs tap it out and and this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► didn't plan this but here you go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► miscellaneous follow up about tape cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► scotch tape I thought we'd put this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► bed no not possible apparently some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► follow up on the bed oh I'd mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► the sticky back plastic and that some TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► show was ridiculed for using sticky back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► plastic this clarification from Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► Richmond says sticky back plastic refers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► to fab lon I think it's a name brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► it's the generic name for the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► the brand name is fab lon it's think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► about plastic as a generic name the BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► show that was infamous for using sticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► back plastic was called Blue Peter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► it seemed to require it for almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► day Aug that implement shows yes it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► the frequent usage of sticky back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► derision and parody not the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► they were using the term to mean sticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► tape biggest Iggy back plastic is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► big clear plastic sheet that happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► be sticky it's not tape and so I googled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► apparently the wikipedia page says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► first broadcast in 1958 is the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► longest-running children's television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► program but then they spelled program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► with an e because you know it's British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► yeah they're fancy over there yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► there you go stinky back plastic not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► same thing as sticky tape or sellotape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► show that used it not ridiculed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► using the term but because they use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► material all the time and apparently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► name brand is fab lon babe blonde fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► blonde battlin sure yeah and finally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► last people's piece of follow-up boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► this is a follow-up heavy shower I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► like to wish happy birthday to joshua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► jones AKA mine fat who was in our chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► room right now Wow maker of nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► icons uh uh that i collected way back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► my youth and i saw him in a chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► and asked if he was the guy who made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► them and he said yes and he sent me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► big archive of all his icons and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► icons i love nintendo and i know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► his birthday fix his friend emailed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► and told me his friend did not provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► pronunciation guide for his name but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► i'll go for it anyway achille kenyatta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► sent me an email and said that joshua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► jones really appreciate it we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► happy birthday greeting even though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► is not as he noted a radio call-in show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► where we have birthday shoutouts to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► that would i have like a little like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► little thing for that yeah it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► too late in the history that showed us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► to add that though that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► morning zoo yeah i know you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► the mornings if I do will you be on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► don't be i won't be on the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► anything ok ah but there you go happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► birthday to mine fat all right we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► take a breather here how why don't ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► you do need one why don't we do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► second is it time was it appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► time it's it's time it is the right time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► everything's a little turned around tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► you about shutterstock.com where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► find over 20 million stock photos they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► got vectors they got you they got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► illustrations they got your video clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► but what they are they're really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► independent content creators all around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► the world whether they're photographers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► or people who draw stuff and they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► all of this stuff available to you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► very very easy to search for the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► that you're looking for why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► want this maybe get an iOS app maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► you're building a website maybe you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► something for your mug or your tote bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► doesn't matter they have something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► presentation maybe you're about to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► pitch your your new idea buildings you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► building one of those decks and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► the VC sitting there you want to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► them some cool tons of reasons why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► might want to look at this stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► make it really easy to find everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► and organize it into these light boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► and then you can take these light boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► and you can share them and share them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► with other people on your team you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► share with your friends whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► they can all work together they'd all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► work together to come up with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► that'll be perfect then you put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► together as a package then you buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► resolution stuff it's just one price for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► everything they don't nickel and dime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► you and it's more affordable than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► might think they have an iPad app by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► curation stuff really easy then they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► 24 hour support during the week you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► don't need to give them anything so just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► go there and browse and check it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► doing that will help support this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► to help support the whole network so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► go do shutterstock.com and browse around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► when you figure out the thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► want to get use the code Dan sent me 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► dan sent me a lemon and you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► thirty percent off which is big so go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► check it out shutterstock.com dan sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► me 11 thanks very much to shutterstock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► for making these shows possible you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► saying you know you used to build your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► deck I'm like why would you need stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► photos to build a deck like oh okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► all right not it not a wooden deck back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► at your house so the kids call it these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► days you get to build your deck now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► isn't the kids say yeah I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► clarify that joshua jones his birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► is on december third it's not today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► hey who knows maybe what time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► listening to this it will be december [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► third if you were thinking of sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3355">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► anything because he does like Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► and I'm not sin all right just track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► just you all right so the topic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► today's show the one and only lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► topic hmm I could be long and it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► be a short one okay I know it's not blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► peter know that is a funny name it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► funny no it's not blue peter although a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► lot of things a lot of British things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► sound like unintentional innuendos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► American people this is the times like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► this when you wish from are one of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► here I knew to riff on blue peter north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► yeah no one no one does it better no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► one does need sexual innuendo dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► better than better than Maryland does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► yes sir if only if only saying his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► three times made him appear less or made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► him go away it's that doesn't work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► non one smelled to go no one does know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► once you call him out he's there to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► it's like Bill juice yeah now John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► Roderick is there to help Merlin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► there to help John who's there to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► plus it's complicated relations yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► that's the drug diagram alright so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► is going to be you know like in sitcoms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► in the 80s sitcom would start and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► be funny and you'd watch it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► like somewhere around I don't know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► season two and a half they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► they would have a very special episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► love those it'd be like you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► can different strokes like you'd watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► this funny show about these adopted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► children and their rich snooty father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► and the clash of cultures or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► and it would be funny and then they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► a show about sexual abuse right never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► like out of nowhere so and then it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► well here you go this this is the man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► can't do the boys this week on a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► special hypercritical we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► talk about sexual abuse but it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► to be more of a touchy feely topic then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► pass shows or indeed about the then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► follow up about chip-making and fabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► wii u accelerometers and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► ah and i thought of this topic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► not because it's new because anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► is read any of these things that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► going to cite and putting the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► notice that many of them are like half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► year old or older but because there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► just one more article like I always put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► these in mines to paper queue and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► happen to read it the other day and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► said you know what this is this is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► talking about on the show even if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► you know a very special episode maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► that will be the title this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► maybe more so we're gonna start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► where this is going cuz you seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► show notes yeah the people in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► room don't I'm going to start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► something from the ever handy know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► meme site which is good for old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► yeah I was just gonna say like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► like us we really need this this site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► that's right cuz now I mean not just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► people i find it even young people young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► people don't know the old people's memes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► and vice versa so anyone you unknown to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► me means you can look it up here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► then the description this mean makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► feel old maybe you'll agree this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► fake geek girl meme which is not a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► me amiss product link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► to know your main page it's listed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► idiot nerd girl but it's you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► description from the site idiot nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► girl is an advice animal image macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► series yes all those words are in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► order on the site featuring a photo of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► teenage girl wearing thick-rimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► glasses with the word nerd written on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► the palm of her hand the upper caption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► often contains a reference to geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► demonstrates a lack of knowledge or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► expertise in the subject and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► say it bears many similarities to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► technologically impaired duck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► musically oblivious 8th grade by seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► now i had never heard the term advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► animal image i had neither advice animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► image macro series sounds like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► some sort of a random text generator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► using a spam email but they call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► advice and I'm sure if I you looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► advice and I'm sure if I you looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► know your meme that would explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► exactly what advice animal is and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► that comes from but I didn't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► that but if you have once you see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► you'll know what they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► like oh those things with the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► background with the bright colors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► the spirals and it shows some probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► give you a template on a site to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► your own yeah it is even if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► know these terms you know what the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► of thing they're talking about and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► the idiot nerd girl is it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► picture of this poor girl whoever she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► actually is uh is making fun of girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► who uh seem to be nerds but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► actually know anything about the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► know don't actually know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► comparison to pretty much are almost our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► entire lives yours in mine and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► many of our listeners being a nerd or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► acceptable but it was not cool now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► cool it's cool to the point that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► will have a girl like you're saying who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► connection to any kind of geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► posing posing is the word right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3655">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► that is what this meme is doing its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► trying to make fun of people this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► type of person who is a girl who is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► seems to be a nerd but isn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► because they don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► that aren't stuck right so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► mean the next article have in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► notes is by Tara Tiger Brown it's titled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► dear fake geek girls please go away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► described in this meme here's a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► from the article pretentious females who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► have labeled themselves a geek girl in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► quotes figured out the guys will pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► lot of tension to them if they proclaim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► their reading comics for playing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► games celebrities dressing up as geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► to reach larger audience Richard Branson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► labeled himself a geek for crying out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► loud how do we separate the geeks from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► the muck this is also related to Patton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► Oswalt's piece in Wired magazine from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► while ago I called wake up geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► time to die about the dilution of geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► culture by people who aren't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► incomparable way back in episode 28 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► entitled bed at high school I put a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► in the show notes if you'd like to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► a discussion of this Patton Oswalt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► geek culture by people who don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► all the things the geeks are supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► know that is kind of a superset of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► fake geek girl thing which specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► about girls diluting geek culture there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► aren't really geeks they don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► know anything about comics they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► like to pretend they're geeks okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► that's the that's the context those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► the memes here the Mary Sue is a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► dedicated like yeah eat girl type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► things and they had a response to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► fake geek girl I'm gonna try to advise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► animal Nikki girl advice animal name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► they did their own meme for the geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► girl meme which sort of like counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► meme using the same images but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► changing the text on the top I put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► link in the show so this is well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► quote from it memes are hard to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► it's basically their definition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► easiest way to deal with them is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► trying to ignore them but this one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► wouldn't mind eradicating from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► internet it would be the idiot nerd girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► advice animal meme it's emblematic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► persistently idea that it tells people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► it's okay to nestle call women out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► not being quote authentically geeky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► unquote enough it's basically the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► that you can use the old middle school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► tactic of calling people posers which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► the way you just did then a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► ago and describing this because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► don't adhere to your own particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► rules as to what qualifies as a geek or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► because they happen to have boobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► read comic books so this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► counter meme which is a clever way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► counter this type of thing using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► same imagery with different text to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► fun of the people who are trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► fun of the idiot nerd girls basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► you know pointing out that the idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► nerd girl meme is very similar to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► calling people and posters in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► school cafeteria which was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► popular thing to do I can attest I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► they still do that I assume I posers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► that's evergreen right I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► holders I think so yes maybe let less of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► it now no no find out when I could to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► get the middle school unfortunately I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► sure all right uh so there's some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► context up for the meme now finally this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► is the article that made me want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► about this topic it is by alex hern this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► one is actually a recent article i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► it's been in the past few weeks or so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► entitled oh god I gotta drink gotta take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► a drink of water you have one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► sponsor do you want to do yeah and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► right now and do whatever what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► whatever you want to do whenever you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► ready source that's huh mobile app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► development house they help you develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► and design your next application or game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► be instantly put over 300 dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► programmers and interface designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► behind your project full time how's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► possible John siracusa would say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► they're full development shop and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► take lots of projects so when you show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► up and you say this is my this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► idea this is the thing I want to build I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► want a website that ties into a mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► app on for iOS and another one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► Android they can build all of this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► maybe you're an iOS developer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► don't want to do the website you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► want to do the database back-end you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► not interested in that because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► outside of your wheelhouse right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► that's fine they'll do the parts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► everything and they've got a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► applications they built for mobile web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► desktop platforms I can do everything 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► of which have reached top 10 in global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► application marketplaces they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► strategy you show up with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► sketch on a napkin doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► they'll do whatever you want and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► really they can scale up and they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► small projects to you don't have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► fortune 500 company to work with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► guys figure to source bits calm they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► just redesign this and looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► there's a big button in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► sis work I guess it's a button looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► kind of like a honeycomb you click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► the work one and you can see all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► stuff that they've built they build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► games at the web stuff consumer mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► enterprise mobile you name it just click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► around and see some of the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► that they build I bet some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► on your phone right now go check them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► out longtime sponsor VARs out in sunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► California San Francisco source bits com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► please do check them out they make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► shows possible John people in chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► have pointed out some things that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► not put into my notes I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► would work them in maybe it will do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► in some follow-up for this uh related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► this area that we're about to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► and cited before those memes is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► show Big Bang Theory you watch that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► have not watched it to the dismay of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► pretty much everybody who's ever met me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► but i'm going to start watching it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► it's done I mean it's all done I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► know son so big bang theory is a sitcom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► I don't watch it either I saw like part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► of a couple episodes to know people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► talking about at like you many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► this including my own mother tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► this one also oh I don't watch a show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► have read many articles about the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► and most many of the articles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► arguments amongst geeks as to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► represented in a way that celebrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► them or that is a that ridicules them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► it the term that keep coming keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► coming up with big bank there any part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► of the reason I'm not evening that going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► to talk about it goes off an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► other tangent that's probably offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► to many people and I will emphasize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► I did not make up this term nor have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► spoken and written it or endorsed it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► any way but it is repeatedly referred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► on the web is that big bang theory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► nerd black face and you can imagine why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► that is offensive and makes no sense in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► many different ways but you can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► figure out what what are they trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► communicate through their indelicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► communicate as they think the big bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► theory uh does it disservice to nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► that it's not a celebration of thirds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► conversation but it's definitely related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► but I'm not going to talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► here because we're on something else um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► so anyway the article by alex hern nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► stop hating women please this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► starts by introducing Tony Harris who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► have you heard of Tony Harris before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► looking at this article not before this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► article yo you may actually know him or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► his work so the arca says he's in no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► a household name but he's artist behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► some of the most critically acclaimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► comics of last 20 years notably Starman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► with james robinson for DC and ex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► machina with bryan cave on the wildstar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► you know if any of those properties i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► know of them they're not things that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► mean vol not you're not into but aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► slate so maybe comics people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► notice but Tony Harris is probably one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► of the artists I assume he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► writer based on what their his writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► that is copy and pasted into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► article because surely this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► not a writer ha if you don't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► yeah I'm gonna read a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► portion of it but you were to really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► the feel you have to really see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► gigantic crazy person wall of text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► filled with misspellings and capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► punctuation but that's not what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► offensive that's not the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► about this that's offensive that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► going to talk about it's the content so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► here is a rant that Tony Harris posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► since been removed apparently because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► follow the link and it's gone and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► can kind of understand why it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► removed once I read you some passages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► from it so start with a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► his intro he says I appreciate a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► gal as nuts as much as the next hetero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► male but I'm so sick entirely gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► capitalized H capitalized him head I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► don't want I don't want if I have to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► the Sun all miss phone just I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► people to get the flavor of the way he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► going on about it as yet another me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► would say this text passage has a flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► and it's not good anyway I'm so sick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► tired of the whole cosplay chicks chicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► spelled wrong cosplay in all caps here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► a statement i want to make based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► rule all caps hey Kwazii pretty not hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► girl you are more pathetic than the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► nerds who you secretly think are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► pathetic but we're onto you some of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► are aware that you're ever so average on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► a daily basis but you have a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► things going your way you're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► become almost completely naked in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► and you're skinny well some of you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► you are or you have big boobies notice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► didn't say great boobies you are what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► refer to as khan hot you can see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► this rant is going cosplay by the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► when people dress up in costumes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► their favorite characters and go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► convention or not to go to convention a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► characters from some fiction thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► you're interested in comic books movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► or whatever yeah so he's referring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► these people as khan hot and says one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► the things that i'll have in common all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► these geeky boys of these conventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► they're being preyed on by you you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► this really awful need for attention for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► people to tell you you're prettier hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► and here's the reason why all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► sickens us because you don't know s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► which i can't say on the show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► comics beyond whatever google image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► search you did to get the ref on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► swimming humans reference on the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► mainstream character with most revealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► costume ever if any of these guys do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► hang out with try to talk to you outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► of that con you wouldn't give them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► effing time of day shut up your damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► liar no you would not you're not you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► not comics you're just the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► all comic book and mainstream press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► the real reason for the con and the damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► costumes you're parading around and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► would be the comic book artists in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► comic writers who make all this stuff up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► I remove parts of that rant but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► that's the gist of it I think you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► get the feel for where this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► coming from and how it relates to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► fake geek girl meme with a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► focus on cosplay in this point you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► these people dressing up this way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► they're not you know real geeks so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► this is leaving me into what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► article is about and this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► strain of fake geek girl Nina stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► leading me into is the section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► show or which I call let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► misogyny dan is that a good recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► segment yes I'm it maybe you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► reoccur at all maybe this will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► only one but let's talk about misogyny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► alright and if you're listening you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► don't know what misogyny is that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► hatred of women by men right from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► West End dictionary very succinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► definition but let's also talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► geek culture because I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► actually is on topic for the show so our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► geek culture or something I'm observer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► of but I'm also part of as a geek and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► think it's on topic of the show because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► you could subtitle this section what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► wrong with geek culture we haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► one of those what's wrong with for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► while no and as part of this I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► talk about one of the causes of misogyny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► there are many causes of misogyny as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► there are causes of any you know many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► causes of any kind of hatred but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► one in particular that's relevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► incoherent screed that I just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► passages from but before I get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► I want to say I'm not going to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► a cause of misogyny as a way to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► away or excuse or justify the behavior a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► lot of times people trying to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► like let me explain to you why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► someone does something the explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► is either seen as or really as meant as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► a justification is like no you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► understand yes this person did this bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► thing but let me tell you why they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► this bad thing and when they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► explain to you feel like osu are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► understand why they did that it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► like now all I see why they do now make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► sense to me and whether the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► not that's kind of feeling so on ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► that often say my explanation of why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► this exists is not meant as an excuse or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► like oh now I get it now makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► me that was perfectly justified I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► going to describe it because I hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► will help the people who behave this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► to stop behaving this way it's not aimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► at the outside world who observe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► behavior it's aimed at the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► perpetrate it and this is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► sort of you know you met a point for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► this in this entire show and my original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► hypercritical article and ARS technica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► understanding why you do something is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► pretty important first step in stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► doing it because if you don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► you're doing things you're just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► things and you don't understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► causes of how are you ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► change your behavior you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► understand what's causing the behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► in the first place and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► figuring out what's wrong with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► what's going wrong what's causing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► to happen not just within yourself with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► anything is you know and a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► strain of criticism self-criticism so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► that's why I'm gonna try to explain this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► shattering or whatever but but here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► go so nerdy geeky guys of which there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► are probably many listening to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► and hosting the show uh are so many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► hosts many listeners yes are often you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► know socially isolated or ridicule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► during childhood to varying degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► would you say this this is an accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► assessment very childhood yes absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► and so you know this happens sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► because of our awkwardness or interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► or you know just a combination of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► it's not it doesn't have to be one type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► of thing and in sort of the Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► Flies world of middle school in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► school this usually means greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► decreased desirability to the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► sex I think you would agree with that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► can mean that is yes alright so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► leads to the following situation so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► heterosexual male right and he's a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► all right but like any other adolescent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► heterosexual male that geek boy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► really really really interested to girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► trust me it's it is an all-consuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► thing that happens at that time in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► young boy's life right mm-hmm inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► yes but he doesn't get what he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► he's wants girls but because of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► mixers to mention about the geeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► and you know it's just generally being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► ostracized and awkward and strange and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► interested in weird stuff uh he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► get no as the man says right yes hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► that was the widest reading of yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► fine by whatever but there you go uh he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► doesn't get what he wants all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► so this this formula can easily lead to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► anger the you know geek boy really wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► this thing and you can't get it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► time tries to get it he fails and feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► toddler's tantrum something that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► sure you and I are both very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► with way too familiar with at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► where you know like you have a three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► four year old if they want something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► know they want the cookie or they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► the toy or they don't want to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► bath or whatever and you and you deny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► them the things they want they throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► tantrum to stamp their feet they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► scream and yell yeah I want the bus like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► the end of the way just in coherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► flail out with anger all right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► kind of tantrum response we associate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► that with a toddler because you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► you saw an adult do that if you did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► if an adult didn't get a raise in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► office and he goes in the floor lies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► the floor and stomped his feet in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► hands and yells and screams and cries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► that he really wants that raised we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► behavior for an adult right but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► pathways and our brains are still in us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► even as adults and certainly certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► as pre teens and adolescents like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► though we know that you're not supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► to throw tantrums or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► connection I want something I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► getting it I'm angry now incoherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► tantrum all that is still there so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► kind of like mashed by civilization and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► learning you know the correct way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► accent partly matched by shame because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► you know if you did actually throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► tantrum in the middle of lunch room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► because the girl doesn't like you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► would not be good idea right and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► have this anger right but where is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► anger directed well it's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► directed into a tantrum because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► that's not viable for even a preteen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► whatever they know that's not the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► way to do it you that anger may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► initially directed against you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► self the board start to be angry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► himself for you so stupid why you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► weird and geeky you know blow blob is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► can't he can't get again let's get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► if he can't get what he wants he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► not even understand why he wants girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► but he's definitely does and he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► get them to talk to him pay attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► him like we're not saying this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► self-actualized person he just knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► girl want yes and he knows not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► girl bad right it's definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► high-minded it's very great and but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► know so he could be angry himself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► this can also eventually lead to anger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► against females they can start to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► seen as the enemy that's refusing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► give you what you want so the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► it's like you're not gonna throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► tantrum and you're done hating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► yourself maybe you have some sort of ego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► that likes us know you know it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► fault you know whose fault this is 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► it's the girl's fault nothing else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► want and they're they're refusing to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► know it can get with me and but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► they understands is what I want their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► their evil there they are denying me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► this thing that I want right now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► nonsensical yeah and effed up in but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► makes this weighs very high grow kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► angry you know but this makes sense if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► you're a guy listening this this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► kind of in a sad way this makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► yeah like if your girl is saying to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► you know how crazy this sounds right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► if your guy listening to this I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► also know how crazy it sounds but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► probably also have felt this at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► point in your life but things like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► you think of a two seconds it makes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► sense like the these the first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► these girls as if they're one homogenous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► species right there there I think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► one mind like a high of mine females [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► right miss the people that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► be with and how can you ever expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► opposite sex if you've come to view them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► happened right that they are the enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► because they are denying you everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► in life and I want to get into whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► crazy fruity and other issues and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► focusing on this one thing simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► adolescent boy geek wats girls can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► there for girls are enemies right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► this is all very obvious to most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► but I think it is not obvious to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► people who perpetrate the worst acts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► misogyny certainly Tony Harris seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► completely unaware of this connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► that I've just drawn here while he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► symptoms in his little essay I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► you look at that essay how can you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► see somebody who is angry at women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► because of his failures with women uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► don't know anything about him maybe he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► got a you know he's happily married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► maybe he has healthy well-adjusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► relationships but everything he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► screams I am angry at women in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► yeah not you know I don't like women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► I don't like them for because I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► rejected by them so let me insult them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► in all the ways that then denigrate them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► along the axes that I care about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► know you're not as hot as you think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► eyes if being hot is the you know the be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► all and end all these women you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► have used them only as a things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► in this thing that he wrote have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► always like personal miss thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► wrote it's entirely about how you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► not fulfilling my desires and how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► know and the worst insult I can give to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► you is how you do not fill my criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► adequately that that's how I carry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► down and that's why I hate all females [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► here so I would say that if you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► adolescent heterosexual male nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► listening to this which I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► imagine there's some fears yeah this 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► maybe in our audience well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► adolescent I'm sure there's plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► heterosexual metal nerds listings us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► adolescent sudden out there into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► right uh but if you are if you happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► be a young person I guess if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► you're an adult as well uh now is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► time especially for that'll essence let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► slides and now is the time to start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► be vigilant I don't like think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► this connection that it is made and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► sort of observe it dispassionately try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► to disconnect yourself from it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► know realize how absurd it is and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► let yourself fall into this trap and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► do that by understanding how and why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► could start to feel this way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► like you said Dan even though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► sounds ridiculous and absurd almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► every male is in this where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► going to MIT it publicly or not has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► feelings like this and hopefully has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► examined them and said wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► this is idiotic it makes no sense this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► is not you know this anger is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► directed to the wrong place right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► understand why this happens and why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► makes no sense as a wise man once said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► Dan don't give it to hate that leads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► the dark side right I think I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► understanding this is an important step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► understand it and so if ever if ever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► feel that way you have the rational part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► of your brain intervene cut it off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► think about it so getting back to Alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► Hearns a nerd stop paying your women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► please thing he continues this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► America the views expressed by Harris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► misogynist instead they're depressingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► common in geek culture on the lads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► scare quotes of images too many nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► friendless losers and decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► anyone who doesn't fit that stereotype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► particularly women is a fake geek taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► advantage of the fact that being a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► is now cool so he's brought this back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► around to you know I guess kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► relate to the big bang theory / tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4978">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► nerds don't cling to this image of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► yourself as as friendless and terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► and saying well someone who doesn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► that mold is in a real geek right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► because that's another pathway to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► complaining all women for your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► problems right I'm becoming a misogynist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► so here is a sa relating to this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► susana polo I think it's also on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► Mary Sue it's called on the fake geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► girl with fake and scare quotes finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► appropriately in this case I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► the desire to weed out posers out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► your personal life and interactions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► I've never actually in the phret in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► flesh made a fake geek girl or guy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► don't think this people actually exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► outside of painful daytime news segments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► and occasional job interviews and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► internet memes but I understand who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► you to say that a stranger someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► you're never likely to meet is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► genuinely interested in the thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► appear to be interested in as it is Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► services here at Mary Sue when an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► describes her personal affection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► involvement and join Minh and fandom for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► geek properties we take it at face value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► why because we don't actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► reason not to because all alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► the alternative reads a closed community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► of paranoid elitist jerks who just lash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► out at anyone you our summer here is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► great this this should've been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► bullet points in the end the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► content of the article right the proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► response this to someone who says they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► like comics and is only ever read scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► pilgrim is to recommend some more comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► for that the proper response is someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► curious to be faking enthusiasm is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► ignore them not to project their actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► onto entire gender or community the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► proper response to someone who appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► to want to be a part of your community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► is to welcome them in end of story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► is a very good summary of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► should be doing instead of the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► things that many people are doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► experience most often does define geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► culture at its best it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► people who maybe had difficult childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► them or ostracized and excluded taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► those experiences that they had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► childhood and learning from them not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► like seek revenge by treating other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► people the way they were treated but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► learn the opposite lesson by learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► how hard is to be treated like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► then vowing never to make other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► feel the way that they felt that I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► taking the high road it's not the hi-res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► likes to path dark side light side right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► because you can see how the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► can lead you to the dark side and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► the light side is the opposite side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► that having this just terrible miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► experience and and just like vowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► saying you know sort of as God is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► witness I'll never be hungry again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► like as God is my witness I will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► make anyone else feel the way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► feeling right now a geek culture as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► at its best is welcoming we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► if you're awkward ugly fat smelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► inarticulate or yes even female plus any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► of the above combined right do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► to talk about the nuances of Pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► strategy I'm interested in that to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► theoretically come welcome let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► about that right and yes also even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► you're female cosplaying and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► scantily clad thing and attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► welcome you know will relate to you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► human being who wants to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► Legend of Zelda or league of legends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► Wow or whatever you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► we'll treat you like a human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► regardless of your appearance social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► skills interests you know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► because we know what it's like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► treated badly based on who we are not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► who we are but in how we look or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► we're interested in wien that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► whole point like we did we experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► that these people don't know who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► they're down on me because I'm into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► Dungeons and Dragons progress I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► know how to dress or because I'm awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► and you know inarticulate or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► thing about you we know what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► to be treated that way in the same exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► way when some super hot beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► person scantily-clad comes up to you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► econo wants to talk to you relate to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► as a human being who's interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► wherever the heck she's interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► and ignore who cares what she looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► you know or you know it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► that's the lesson we should learn not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► like oh we should all hate all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► females because they're not like us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► because they you know ignored us in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► school or whatever tax is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► example this packs with the penny arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► expo which you are going to this yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► am it's at its best and it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► often at its best is a judgment-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► zone that's what i would call nice if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► all come there because we all love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► gaming and of some stripe board games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► video games whatever it is we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► gamers we just happened also a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► time be you know awkward in our tequila [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► geeks and we all come together uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► and it's like it's kind of like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► of an example going somewhere where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► can finally relax like now I know no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► here is going to be judging me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► I'm a geek maybe you're in your job you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► don't feel that way because you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► like I have to hide the fact that I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► larper in a weekend right don't I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► we make fun of that ourselves like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► all all right like that's right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► yeah that's the one so even even we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► make fun of flour well no but packs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► like pax is a judgment-free zone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► matter what you're interested we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► this place and this time we're gonna set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► aside to say we are not going to we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► not going to care everyone is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5278">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► everyone is welcome no one is judged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► based on whatever the thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► they're interested in as long as they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► not hurting other people right and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► extends far far outward from like gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► and geek stuff or whatever all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► out to things like sexual orientation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► transgender everything like that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► it's about relating to people as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► not according to what the labels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► what their appearances are what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► what their weird interests weird you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► be and I think this is also why we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► so many geeks myself included feel such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► a visceral connection to homophobia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► gay rights I don't know if you feel this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► as well but I realized this several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► years ago i'm like why is it that i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► like you know like my my adrenaline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► starts pumping it's like I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► flight or flight response anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► anything having to do with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► anything you know sort of hate crimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► and homophobia and all that gay right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► stuff is like why I'm having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► reaction I realize I'm having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► reaction because it's exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► thing as you know being treated badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► uh unfairly right it doesn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► the part of who you are is it just it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► injustice is injustice yeah and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► exactly and it's a it makes it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► growing up a geek and being subject to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► that makes you you know I can do several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► things you can make you into a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► misogynist yes but it can also turn you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► over to someone who is like keenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► attuned to other people who are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► like you know that person is feeling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► way you felt maybe even a hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► worse and but like you know that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► right like that's terrible that must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► stopped right in my sight you know it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► triggers the fight-or-flight response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► just adrenaline pumps induce us know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► right now i know i tried political stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► on the show or whatever but in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► opinion this is a then this is a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► rights issue not a political thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► if you've decided now to write off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► entire 96 episode run of this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► ignore all my future work I'm sorry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► certain things are worth standing up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► and this is one of them so anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► lesson of this very special episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► hyper critical or very similar is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► moral or a lesson I don't know what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► you can decide I'll say in the immortal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► co-starring I don't know who's featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5398">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► in a movie that may be older than some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► people listening to this podcast right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► now be excellent to each other dan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► think that's the lesson okay kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► like an eye for an eye no not that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► that's a totally different treat others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► how you would like to be treated yeah in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► that the golden rule is the reason I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► all worked about this inside to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► in the show is like I read all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► things you know these geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► related things with the fake geek girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► and everything and it seemed like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► were losing the thread it was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► don't you understand guys like I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► it seems to me that there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► vast agreement on this like when I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► pax I feel like yes we all understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► son spoken everyone here understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► this is the place where we can all come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► and be at our best and that our best is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► not judging anybody for anything not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► making anyone feel the way some of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► may felt for whatever reasons no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► what they're into you know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► everyday life and everywhere but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► this is a safe place where you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► and look like don't we all agree on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► and then the fake geek girl thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► like no that is the exact opposite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► is going to that convention and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► somehow this little berylon strain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► virus gets in there it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► here except for those fake geek girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► who give me funny feelings and wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► outfits they're not really into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► anyways I know it's the opposite if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► want to come and they want to dress like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► some they've never heard of who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► like you're supposed to welcome them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► know that's the whole point and it kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► me that that happens in this venue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► the one venue you know he's convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► that things were it's supposed to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► supposed to act the best of the best and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► this comes in and it's just the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► opposite of everything that we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► supposed to be about so it just pissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► me off it pissed me off that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► threads are bouncing that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► arguments about this well you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► understand fake geek girls real are fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► and they need you and it's not just from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► you know misogynist males like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► the articles I read here cited was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► written by by a female saying yeah these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► fake geek girls stop trying to be a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► or whatever I get back to the bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► points that what was that authors names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► I gotta get out here again oh where was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► that Susan what was her name susana polo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► you know it just lays off with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► proper response just you know if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► someone who is like it falls under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► scatter all their a fake girl they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► know about to tell them about other cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► stuff don't assume like you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► like it you're just posing for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► crazy know that like if they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► posing for attention like who cares like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► everyone is welcome if they want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► part of your community they're welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► that's the whole that's the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► no one comes and said well you can come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► and sit down play a board game with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► character and you know you're weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► pimply narrow tequila and smelly so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► have to go someplace else that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► should never happen at you know in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► life a but if we can't do an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► world then the very least at pax and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► then our conventions so it's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► place you're safe yeah and real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► really should be everywhere but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► what can we start with can we start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► conventions can we not have you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► just it just pisses me off what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► brought all this on I just seeing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► articles like if there's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► like you know I don't want to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► political stuff rights but I see it see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► that there's a this is a debate like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► this is the topic we need to debate we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► had that pro and con against fake geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► girl know this there is no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► there's no pro for that meme there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► there's no there there there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► reality that mean it's not like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► real thing no the whole point if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► come to the show they dresses somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► that you know they're welcome they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► not less welcome because they happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► be you know a beautiful woman then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► horrible ugly trolled adolescent pimply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► bought like everyone is welcome no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► faking no posing know anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► that's the point and it just drives me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► nuts that their articles bouncing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► the web over the course of an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► year debating this as if it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► like people are people just losing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► know what the whole point is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► seems crazy to me like I figured it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► just go away because if you ever attend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► packs you you feel that you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► everyone pretty much agrees you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► that this is the way it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► but there's this little apparently this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► little tiny thread worming its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► people's minds and it's screwing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► up and needs to be it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► corrected and stamped out and we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► be conscious of it no you're upset I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► tell you're upset I am I know this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► could be this is you say this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► the show jump the shark when he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► to get another political stuff and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► these big rants about things and call me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► a misogynist I didn't like that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► well sorry guys the show's ending soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► anyway so you'll be safe yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► was saying that the final episode should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► be about free will yeah I'm go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► I'll go here though I'll go here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► like I think this is on topic geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► culture definitely on topic forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► critical the excellent to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► folks have anything to add damn from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► your experience I don't have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► add to this you cover it all I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► first of all you cover it all but second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► of all you know I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► I think it's different nowadays I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► to people today in in there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► like 20 s if you're in your 20s right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► now it's that you're growing up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► very different world at least from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► geek standpoint I can't I can't speak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► the other topics you brought up but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► the geek standpoint people who are who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► are in our generation who would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► been considered to be misfits or uncool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► like I remember I have a vivid memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► being i guess it was 11 years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► on there came out this is vinyl folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► and I had this album and i loved this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► album and I felt like Devo was speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► not directly to me in the sort of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► way but like these were my kind of guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► like they made music that I liked they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► were weird and they were unafraid to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► weird and they were unafraid to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► and I I couldn't couldn't verbalized it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► this way when I was 11 years old but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► authority and do unconventional things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► and and have fun with it and make it fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► and make it interesting and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► something that was different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► everything else that was out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► yet somehow go a little bit get get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► popular I don't say go mainstream but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► and I remember talking to somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► would you know was a quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► friend of mine I thought and like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► were talking about music or something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► in the classroom one day and I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► gee you know you have you ever listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► to devo you know that cool song wit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► have you ever listened and he's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► listen to devo I was like yeah he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► he'd like he did the little like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► take your forefingers you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► Ultraman the thing were you if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► Ultraman how you would shoot out the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► main attack like you cross your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► over run it well he made like the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► Christian cross with his two fingers one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► goes one way one goes the other like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► tea with your fingers and was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► what's wrong you know like get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► me but that's that was not an isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► incident that was like if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► like we're into weird stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► was normal you know that was the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► response that I ran into throughout like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► all of grain you eventually learn like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► oh I guess I can't talk about anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► like you know you find the one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► other kids or like like D&D and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► all kind of shamefully admitting to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► other you made maybe I kind of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► thing and then you find out the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► kid likes you like to die love Dean D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► know what I mean and and and it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► you had to almost like downplay you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► to do it was bad enough that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► know you couldn't play sports you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► but you didn't want to give the the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► show completely show your hand and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► you do this different thing that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► people don't do like now you're setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► a trend so I think I think that aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► of it has changed and I've talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► people about this and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► people's minds are open a bit more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► this kind of thing at least in major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► cities i was i like that i like to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► that the trend is positive but i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► think that just because the specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► things that may have been you'd been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► ridiculed for when we were kids are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► more accepted there's just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► else that replaces it like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► always a point that some kid is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► like you know think things are evergreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► like being ugly and awkward that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► never be cool right being ugly is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► worst thing in the entire world in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► middle school in high school right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► that's never going to change there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► trend it's not kind of knocking oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► you're a trendsetter your hideously ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► no it's not gonna happen being awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► like physically awkward socially awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► that is never going to be cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► something that people are being slammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► for and you know that's I'm trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► vigilant about that was like oh it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► a big deal I when I was a kid I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► admit I liked computers but nowadays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► it's cool that may be true and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► your kid is lucky and he happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► into computers and you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► big deal but there's always gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► something right as kids are animals yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► so I am vigilant to to I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► like say yeah I hope it has gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► better you know but I not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► better yeah I mean so I was gonna want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► make sure that I don't like oh you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► understand kid when I was a kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► couldn't play D&D now you got it so easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► maybe they don't have it easy me no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► they didn't know you're right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► replacing it but I'm just saying like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► lot of the things that I think I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► say we've it that I remember from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► childhood a lot of those things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► gone away and people it it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► they're more accepted like you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► they're more accepting of those kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► things and and some of those things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► kind of become cool but it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► interesting for me to wonder why they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► become cool and and other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► have replaced them it seems like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► things have gotten more intense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► almost worse well I feel like the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► works is that you know the generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► that was into those things became adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► and now like we control the world right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► damn you control it from your console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► there under the volcano sure all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► and we get to decide the computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5998">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► cool because we changed the world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► you're welcome right but and you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► we grow to it like just like the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► who are you know I maybe not diva but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► guess kind of like when that generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► grows up to adulthood and if they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► successful they can influence the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► the culture look so now you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► plus computer just become common so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► how can they be uncool like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► everywhere deal with it right so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► that's how I think that trying to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► but what happens is and this is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► call progress it sounds terrible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► this is called progress is when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► thing that was uncool becomes acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► you just pull from the bin that's down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► there the big black velvet bag with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► the green smoke coming out of it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► just reach your hand in there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► pull the next thing up when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► high school you know we had gay kids in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► our class but nobody talked about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► it was like totally in the closet type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► of thing now it's like all right so fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► it's okay to be a geek or whatever let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► reach into that bag look what we found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► homosexuality all right well now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► going to come up but we're gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► deal with that as a real thing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► next whatever you know the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► with you know generations whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► think you come from with all I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► calm through intolerant oh yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► gonna reach into the bag again oh look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► transgender people how do you feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► that and you're like oh wait wait it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► like I'm not comfortable with that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► there's always something in the bag for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► you to reach down to that's gonna test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► your you know tolerance right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► sounds terrible that each time we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► to deal with this new type of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► that's progress like it's good now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► know that that gay kids in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► have clubs and support groups and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► out in the open and you know any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► hatred towards them or whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► stamped down like that's progress right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► but they have to fight they had to fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► that fight and it's still not easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► them you know and and one once that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► done like three generations from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► when we have a gay president and it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► big deal and we look back on anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► thought of it as a big deal is barbaric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► right that would progress too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► they'll always be something else down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► the bag will pull up you know who it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► going to be a people with like alien DNA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► but and who knows but like them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► transgender it's a great example because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► lots of people who are you know totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► pro-gay rights and everything are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► uncomfortable with that but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6118">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► know there's always a more marginalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► group and then like I said the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► attractiveness into anti-intellectualism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► is another big one I felt that a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► school that like being smart was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► cool and that seems crazy to me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► definitely still there right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► depends in the school it depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► environment you're in stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► but yeah there's always something down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► there but yeah that I think that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► should be the hallmark of geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► is you know just picking the group that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► I happen to be in but like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► experience them and that's really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► hallmark of gay culture any type of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► experience any kind of discrimination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► and you know exclusion and ridicule in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► something that you know it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► your nature that is that should not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► condemned but is what you should bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► from that is like I said the the mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► in life to never make another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► feel this way and if you see someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► making someone else feel this way even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► if it's about something has nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► do with you you can say it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► matter I you know I'm not gay but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► what that gay kid feels like right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► and it's terrible it needs to stop right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► bringing out of this I think it's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► think it's what most geeks do bring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► I think that's what should define geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► culture and when it doesn't something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► going wrong this really was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► special episode underling man it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► very special this is a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► side of you you waited you know nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► ninety five episodes to reveal it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► the same side it's the geek side ya know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► is that issue Andy I think on said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► a short show 102 minutes all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► if you want to talk to john about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► he will engage with you best i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► on twitter which is a siracusa SI RAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► u.s.a on twitter he's also on Alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► app.net siracusa he's also in Siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► that is and if you would like to send an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► email john obviously does read those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► many times will read them on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► five by five TV / contact need to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6248">TS</a>]
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01:44:12 ◼ ► him and me and I think that's it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► damn Benjamin on Twitter show notes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► at five by five TV / hypercritical / 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmkkh6U/6261">TS</a>]