00:00:01 ◼ ► until the needle comes down but you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► to make sure the needle is all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► down before you grab it then you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► you have to start and stop a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► machinery from moving it's there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► operate this is hypercritical weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/11">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► talk show ruminating on exactly what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/16">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/20">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/21">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► Friday November 16 2012 this is episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► number 94 of our beloved hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► show we would like to say thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► much to our sponsors today squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► com hover com and lynda.com who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► collaborating to make this show possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/42">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► we also want to thank mutual mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► these guys are super passionate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► iOS as a platform they have a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/48">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► dedicated team all these guys do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/49">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► conceived deliver and support mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► solutions for global brands and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► what they want some help they want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► help they trust your engineers freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► to make technical decisions by hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/60">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► smart talented people to their team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► that's you they want you you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► come in and once you do iOS work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/66">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► meetups they do hackathons to do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► cool stuff and just by going and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► at this job you can support this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/78">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► five-by-five go there to learn more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/84">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► of course we'd be irresponsible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► potentially liable if we did not mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► the bandwidth for November's brought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/91">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► you by mind node mind mapping app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► mac and iOS and brainstorm your project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► you can organize your life you plan your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/97">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► vacation don't matter they late collect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► structure expand your ideas they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► icloud sharing keep your mind maps with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► you very very cool app beloved mind node [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► dot-com how are you doing today John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► siracusa I'm just fine you still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► same end time we got to be out of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► by noon well what time is our thing over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► to Evernote 1145 and we need to prep for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► it a little bit and I'd say fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► minutes to get over there yeah I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► we go if we go 15 minutes past it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► so 1215 all right well we gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► started then let's do it boom yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/129">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► one major topic of follow-up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/134">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► one main topic for the show so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► we'll fit it in we'll see first let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► start with some little tiny follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► first one is from one canepa CA and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/142">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► EPA okay I did on that while back we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► talked about the microsoft surface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► how much free space was available on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► right up because the OS and bail office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► took up a lot of room yes and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► have a 16 gig model daily up 32 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► last show I think I mentioned that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► Microsoft services that it's got or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► surface RT anyways you got a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► plug in an SD card and SD cards are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► cheap by third-party SD card shoved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► there by 64 gig SD card and suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► your surface has tons of space well one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► writes in to tell me and the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► that's all well and good but apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► you can't install applications on the SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► card so you can put photos and videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► and things that are actually big but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► applications have to be on the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► limiting factor but it does explain how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► they manage to deal with like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► happens if I yank up the SD card do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► bunch of my apps disappear well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► because you can't put any apps on uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► so that's interesting compromise and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► believe is only applies to the RT when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► the surface pro comes that I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/210">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► will be able to put apps there but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► see alright another little tidbit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/212">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► Ali Hawkins last week he talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► putting music behind ads you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► talked about this on build and analyzed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/224">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► to how you had put the music track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► behind that ad read you did when Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► had the ad on Howard Stern Show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► asked you what the name of that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► was called you didn't quite know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/234">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► couple people wrote in including Ali to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► say that that's called a bed apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► yeah I that's just something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/240">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► should have been able to respond to I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► different things bed is the correct term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► music bed if you want to get specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► about it there you go but there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► now the world knows all right now on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/255">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► believe it or not actually shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► surprising as one of the small things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► talked about last week was a voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► this is not a political show John that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► right I was happy to see that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► get any feedback as far as I saw from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► people who are angry about politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► because we didn't talk about politics we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► just talked about voting technology but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► there were lots of people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/282">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► angry but engaged on the topic of voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/283">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► technology I'm going to read a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► snippets of feedback here and you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► me if you would notice a theme mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► because I cherry picked these and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► makes it look like this a theme but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► this really was the theme of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► feedback to the first is from andreas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► hartl he says paper-based method without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► anything more high-tech than a ballpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► pen does work vote counting can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► sophisticated technical or mathematical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► skills it's only downside is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► have to wait a little bit longer for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► result and he gave me a link to the 25th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► chaos communication congress website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/319">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► presentation on a voting technology i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► put them both in the show notes so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► can read the paper and also watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► video which is kind of long and boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► but it's all there and the the paper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► avoiding after any da p which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► german voting system and digital pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► which is another kind of electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► voting and subtitle is why cryptography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► might not fix the issue of transparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► elections and is a little bit from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► abstract these methods introduce a level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► of complexity into elections which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► prevents most voters from understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/352">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► currently controlled by the people trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► in the ability of experts is required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► introduced the next bit of feedback is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► from Leonard if I'm pronouncing isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► incorrectly because it's felt a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► bit differently there's one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► paper voting system has going for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► no computer system will ever get it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► entirely comprehensible observable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► persons this is essential for trust in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► the voting process what are you saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► is that that anybody with just the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► understanding of making a mark on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► paper in a certain place can verify this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► cryptographic ones require master's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► level computer science degree of you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► figure it out all right he says contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/397">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► this to making a cross in a circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► counting the votes and two piles it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► simple that even a six-year-old can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► it a six-year-old could observe me doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► it and testified cheatham a six-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► can verify my result he does not need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► trust me and he said any computer system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► has the problem that is basically magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► to normal people he also says they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► a word in German about this but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► going to try to pronounce it I'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/419">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► on no come on out but apparently is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► means roughly that a ruling group has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► now it has a knowledge advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► they could use to control the uneducated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► let's see next one from john berg mayor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/430">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► any system needs to be capable of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► recounts a lot of the theoretically very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► secure systems you mentioned doing do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► you have audible papal trails but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► point is this but this point is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► amazingly important that many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► tech nerds talk about voting misted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► computers without electricity even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► no system ever to the end of time no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► matter what technology is ever invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► that does not have the capability the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► capability doing a recount that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► computers is a suitable choice next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► is from Mike Musel I talks about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► they have in Germany is that in Germany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► in 2009 our highest court ruled that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► voting computers we had up until then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► constitutions elections have certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► requirements that must be fulfilled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► manganese is the need for the election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► to be transparent to the voters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► verifiable with our good old crosses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► paper ballots even a ninety-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► non-tech lady can stay at the polling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► station after the election is closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► counted and note the sum of the votes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/494">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► voting's computer setup how could that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► nine-year-old non-tech lady know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► everything is correct she can't she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/503">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► would have to trust the tech people how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► can she know that those people one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► competent again she can't there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► let's see if there's anything more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► this one I just about up anyone can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► and count the votes she has a good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/518">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► about smartphone voting remotely or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► whatever it says even for technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► feasible it would pose a risk that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► example husband trusts the control house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/528">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► wife boat pilot the security print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► if you're not doing it in a controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► pulling place anonymously people who try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► to control across your boat so we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► remote voting Omri our Beave rights in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/539">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► with a link to NPR on the media podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/545">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► segment about online voting and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► short segment like five minutes long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► it's about how is the country of Estonia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► has been has been doing online voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► since 2005 they have government issued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► identification cards with the password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► measure taken when they just basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► you know over the internet do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► votes so you want to hear how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► working out in a country that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► doing it and the pros and cons of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► approach take a look at that also in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► show notes so show notes five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► dot TV such hypercritical / 94 yes many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► many links we've already just burned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► through in this quick follow-up so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► theme here as you can see is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► that you need to have a you need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► a way to both understand like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► non-technical birth needs to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► understand what's going on the voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► system and also the boring system still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► needs to work ah by candlelight with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► electricity hmm now the first thing imma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► say on this topic is that a secure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► know and inaudible electronic voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► system doesn't preclude any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► things in fact some of these systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► that were linked in that in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► shows show notes showed that yes the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► know just because you use cryptography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► and electronic things to make the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► auditable and secure and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► doesn't mean that you don't also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► okay so say the power was out no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► any computers because it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► terrible premise of the show revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► you still end up with a bunch of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► artifacts that you could then hand count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► manually right so it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/638">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► various voting systems passed or failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► this thing but there's nothing inherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► cryptographically secure voting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► doesn't say also you have you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► auditable paper trail right ah so most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/651">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► of these feedback you know acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► that but the other thing is to said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/658">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► know all right so you can make it secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► an electronic or whatever better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/660">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► also have to sort of degrade gracefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► artifact in the ability to do a Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► count but that aside I don't think any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► of these requirements you know eliminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► electronic voting another thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► Germany Bailey had to eliminate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► cruddy electronic voting machines they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► had and by the way several people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► different countries wrote in to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► they have similar problems the US where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► when electronic voting machines were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► possible ways than the things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► were replacing we have the same problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/685">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► the United States pointed last showbiz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► that that doesn't need to be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/688">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► that we have the smarts to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► better but it is important to recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► it just making electronic usually seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► to go terribly wrong because of just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► know corruption and competence and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► government but I want to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► this idea that the the election both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/703">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► these idea is that that an election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► system needs to work by candlelight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► the people need to understand so first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/713">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► the candlelight one people I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► people fearing comforted by the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► that if a giant EMP goes often destroys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► all electricity producing things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► whatever crazy scenario you want to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► out with that we can you know you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► bunch of old ladies could do the recount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► anything you just need to look at pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► of paper and put them into piles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► then count the things in the pile and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► you have 20 different people do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/740">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► it's completely comprehensible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► comfort of that is obvious like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► don't like something that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► understand but the comfort of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► think is mostly theoretical because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► there's no way that any single person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► going to be able to hand count all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► votes for any country or a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► size all right a group of people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► hand count them in a distributed manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► and then they add up their sums and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► have people repeated or whatever but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► general it you know you can never have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► every single person in the country get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► their hands on all the paper ballots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► like say you took all the paper ballots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► and the country the size of the US and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► each person the entire country got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► chance to hand count them to verify for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► themselves well that's just obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► not going to work right so in all cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► you're trusting that some group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► people that is not you is trustworthy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► some way or at least it there that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► biases are counter to each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► balance each other out or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► but people like to just think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► know okay well I'm not going to hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► the ballots and no 10 is going to Hank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► out the balance but I do though that 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► people hand counted the ballots and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► of them were for party a and half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► them from a party B and if they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► coming up with the same numbers i trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► those number right I don't quite see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/813">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► connection between that distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► trust where you didn't do it your friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► didn't do it but eventually there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► encountered the things and anyone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► volunteer to count them liking all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► countries like Jeremy and stuff anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/825">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► can go down there and count them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► satisfy themselves but everybody can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► go down account so there is some remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► trust and the idea that okay but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► understand what they're doing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► just looking at pieces of paper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► counting them sorting them into piles I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► understand that process I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► those things are as connected as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► seem to think they are ah that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► you understand the system therefore this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► indirect trust is more trustworthy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► because indirect trust for set work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► when you're saying I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► these mathematicians assure me that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► mathematicians right that indirect dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► is no good but the indirect trust of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► seven people away from you a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► people counted a piece of paper that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► better because you're like okay not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► am I trusting these people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► me but I understand what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► therefore I feel like I'm less likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► be cheated my argument would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► it's much easier to like if those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/878">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► were cheating or there was some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► organized cheating conspiracy there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► there is nothing that anyone else can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► to verify that they're not cheating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► except for count them themselves whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► and this is I think you know this is may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► come back to people not understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► cryptography and stuff like that or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► mean I don't understand the mathematical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► details but just like the consequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► of it if you can imagine a system where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/901">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► uh you add up a bunch of numbers and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► come up with a total like 12 or 13 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► and what you want to know is did my vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/912">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► contribute to that number 12 it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► impossible because you just thought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► with the number 12 you have no idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► your vote was part of that 12 right how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► can how can you ever know that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► it was just 12 was made up of a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► votes maybe one of those was yours maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► was counted maybe it wasn't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► know number 12 will imagine the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/930">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► where you could come up with a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/931">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► mathematically assured that your vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► contributed to that total this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► getting into the magic thing it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► what do you mean that makes no sense you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► can't tell if your number contribute at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► all that's impossible well there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► things that you can do mathematically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► make that so that you can confirm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► your vote really did contribute to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► total and that if your vote wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► counted towards a total in the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► manner the total would not validate in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► particular way uh this is going to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► complicated but if you ever go read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/962">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► on Bitcoin which is this distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► fiat currency / scam / whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/966">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► you know I don't know how you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► talk about wait why are you calling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/973">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► scam that's not a scam but like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► it's an economic thing where it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► of like gambling but not really but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/980">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► currency and the imaginary nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► money is a topic that's beyond the scope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► of this podcast we're talking right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► but the one thing Bitcoin does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► going for it is that it has the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► whereby everybody who's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/993">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► transaction is valid or not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► can't sneak in an invalid transaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► that you know puts more money into one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► account that it took then it took out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► the other or whatever because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► consensus type of algorithm and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► things will be invalidated and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► basically possible to tell whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► money that you put it in correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► mathematically and so that's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► know that ignores all the whether it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► good idea to get into Bitcoin and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► how much it's valued and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► just simply the foundation of being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► to tell that these inputs produce this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► output in this particular way and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► everybody in the system has to agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► it for the system to move forward agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► sounds like it's something anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► it's basically a much more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► version of the thing that I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► where if you have a total number you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► want to know that your vote counted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► towards it and that's something you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► do with math there's always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► a secret somewhere of some secret key or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► some other things being corrupted or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► stolen but trusting that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► mathematical foundation to proving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► whether something happened or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► I i think is better than trusting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► people you don't know and never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► meet have hand counted these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► simply because you think they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► know balancing each other off and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► they were cheating they would catch each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► other whatever like there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► there's nothing to hang your hat on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► mathematically that you can use to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► prove that those guys did the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► thing you basically just have to trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► cryptographically secure assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► whether you understand it or not uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► there should be enough smart people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► the world assuring you on both sides of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► the coin that like look if you do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► you'll be able to tell whether your vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► was counted and I do get the wrong ansel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► your note you know your vote wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► counted and the things required cheat on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► this you know would be you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► they can lay out the exact parameters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► there's no there's no spy craft you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► could do to corrupt the system in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► that wouldn't be detectable except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► something uh now just because I I I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► more trust in mathematics combined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► this remote trucks than people doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► other things like they'd rather have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► comfort doesn't mean that this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► these people all don't have points that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► this is all well and good and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► try to like and put it on a blackboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► and explain to people how it works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► stuff but the bottom line is if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► don't trust it it's not good because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► know you want a system that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► trusts whether people trust it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► necessarily connected to whether it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► more or less trustworthy so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► their their point on it being able to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► counted by candle light stands not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► much on the merits of the technology but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► on the fact that most of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► probably agrees with them and in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► this is a system that everyone has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► agree is fair for things to work well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► if that's if that is unchangeable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► you cannot convince the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► you're secure voting system actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► secure and you cannot convince them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► you can show them how to secure it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► alternatives it doesn't matter if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► really more secure not all it matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► what they think of course that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► ultimate election hack the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► doesn't really matter what actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► happens in the election all that matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► is that everyone involved or almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► everyone involved agrees that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► fair whether it was really fair not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► almost immaterial if you were the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► way to cheat an election is to do it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► such a way that everyone agrees that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► so that's kind of depressing but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► anyway I think their point stands like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► cryptographically secure voting system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► will also and must also include a paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► trail and all the things that to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► to be hand countered and if the security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► is just extra on top of it oh and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► want to get back to one of the piece in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► the feedback of like the only thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► get from an electronic auditable roading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► record is that it's uh it's faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► depart to tabulate the results that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► not one of the goals of these systems or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► shouldn't be ready shortly speed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► should be accuracy or not just accuracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► verification like you've got all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► same old verification with pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► paper and people can hand recount them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► do a lot stuff but also this is extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► layer of security on top of that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► gives you that you didn't have before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► like for example before you didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► the ability to like go to a website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► enter in some secret code that you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► in your little paper receipt and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► out whether your vote was counted or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► you may not understand that you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► think it's all a lie and it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► fabricated and not given you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► credence whatsoever that's fine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► it's just on top of the existing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► that you do trust but in general I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► you know that that's the case where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► your disbelief the sort of Luddite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► disbelief that electronic scan cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► possibly add in the extra security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► doesn't mean that it doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► add extra security and make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► difficult to to corrupt and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► that so I think that's like a bonus type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► system yeah I think I basically combine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► the two whether whether you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► understanding it and having the paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► trail or two separate things for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► they kind of meld into each other uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► yeah III don't want to call people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► luddites because they don't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► electronic voting because if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► the history of electronic voting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► including you know everything's happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► in the US we've just done it so terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► reputation I mean it's got a deserve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► terrible reputation and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► people who don't understand it all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► know is every time someone tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► introduce electronic voting it ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► being a giant disaster therefore we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► should never do anything electronically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► and that's it I was also trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► of other things in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► average person doesn't understand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► less people trust it's difficult to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► with straight through analogies but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► there are plenty of them I the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► is they're not exactly the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► like people understand how airplanes fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► but they have faith that they'll be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► the air and that you know something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► they have really have no idea like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► you know and people don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► government works in general and how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► government works in actuality but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► trust that all this law was passed and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► trust it was passed in a way that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► involve just a bunch of guys in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► room chomping cigars and saying let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► this you know there are many things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► the world that people don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► that nevertheless put their trust in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► I'm not of the opinion that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► impossible to get human beings to trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► an end an auditable cryptographically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► secure electronic voting system I'm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► the opinion that it would be possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► it maybe you have to wait for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► generations people die off and gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► introduce it and actually do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► for once and stuff like that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► could happen and I think the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► are against it would eventually die off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► and everyone else would think it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► to do it in any other way I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► voting is unlike every other part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► human condition where it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► technology and but voting we have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► with rocks until the end of my voting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► different in some fundamental way than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► anything else human beings do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► again out it cannot be improved upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► with modern technology it must be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► same that it was you know right hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► and hundreds and hundreds of years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and there are many ways you can shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► down any analogy flying a plane is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► like an election don't you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► electron is how we govern ourselves it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► like meta system it's so important ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► blah but there is you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► nothing in in life that is so special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► that technology cannot touch it ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► it almost sounds like the intro TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► no nothing is so perfect that it yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► don't know it's it's kind of similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► thing but anyway uh like I said I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► I'm not arguing against paper trails I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► think they have to be there and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► there's no reason they shouldn't be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► I am arguing for electronic voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► systems done right and done right means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► you have all of the benefits of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► existing system plus many extra benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► on top of that that people may not care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► about or anything but as long as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► superset of the existing security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► mechanisms then so what people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► pretend that's all magic and BS and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► is equally secure to the best you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► the hand recounts in all its stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► all right that went a little long I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► think I was rambling there but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► it's alright sponsor sure hover com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► simplified domain management you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► probably registered a domain from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► company that they tried upsell you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► stuff you go there you register domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► name and the next thing you know you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► signed up for it for five years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► you've bought all kinds of additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► you know back ordering things and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► you didn't want or even if you are smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► and savvy enough to disable all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► things as you're going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► checkout process they're still there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► there's still kind of a nuisance well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► hover com does not do that these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► their goal is to provide you with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► straightforward minimal clean honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► process that makes it easy to go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► register the domain that you want and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► away that's what they do there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► search box you type in the domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► you want if it's available you register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► it if it's not available they'll show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► you some alternatives and that's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► get out there's a checkbox do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► to have the free who is privacy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► believe that checked then you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► into your settings and make it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► there's like a checkbox in there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► says that never never contact me you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► do that if you want i don't mind them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► contacting me because they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► pretty cool stuff like their domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► transfer valet service where if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► transfer your domain from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► registrar they'll do the entire thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► like a human being that works there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► free will do the whole process for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► they have email hosting if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► they have built-in free dns which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► what i'm pretty much using for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► everything now go check these guys out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► hover com / dan sent me this will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► you ten percent off everything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► do or you can just use the coupon code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► dan sent me when you're buying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► like if you're an existing customer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► transferring more domains there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► limit on how many times you can use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► and i actually use that myself for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► domain name registration problem my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► addiction and you can go there hover com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► such dance let me get ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► hopefully you liked the experience as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► much as I do thanks very much to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► for making the show possible what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► got next John and before we move on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► point that a lot of these bits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► feedback oh I got a turned off all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► a lot of these bits of feedback about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► voting kind of matter of factly state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► that the way they're voting system works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► in their country the voting system do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► they like usually it that involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► government-issued ID right and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► coming from a u.s. perspective the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► of the world probably thinks we're crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► but this just goes to show it like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► know and in the same way that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► think that the average person needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► understand the math involved for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► eventually be considered secure people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► and the rest of world don't think twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► about having government-issued ID and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► having to show it at the polls to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► whereas an America that is a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► big issue and some of the same people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► that you know don't you understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► has to be a paper ballot has to be hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► candid and of course you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► government issue date I'm turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► said don't you understand you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► require government issued ID and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► well what how can you vote without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► government issue lady how do we even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► know who's what it again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► everyone has their personal hang-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► culturally personally then not all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► them are based on logic so in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► in the same way that I'm saying to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► people that owe you know you you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► doesn't need to be done with rocks when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► that they would say to us you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► have to have a government ID to vote how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► can you vote without that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► stupid and I can't talk about this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► much without getting into politics or US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► politics we just go show that the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► of the world is different like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► don't think most of the feedback even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► acknowledge that they were just like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► me explain how it works in the civilized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► world we use rocks and pieces of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► and a government-issued ID it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► that's not gonna fly in the US that's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► ah people are strange when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► stranger is that it yes that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► correct Jim arson doors lyrics okay all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► right so let's move on to the main topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► today and this could be short how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► more sponsors do we have we have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► more so we'll space them out alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► don't let me go too long alright gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► finish this topic is as teasing the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► show it's about using ARM processors all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► caps a RM instead of Intel processors on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► max right and it is spawned by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► from that a week ago titled Apple said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► to be exploring switch from Intel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► Mac that is bad headline because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► awkward right here's a little synopsis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► thing Apple exploring ways to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► Intel processors in its Mac personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► computers with a version of the chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► technology uses in the iphone or ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► according to people familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► company's research people familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► Apple engineers have grown confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► that the chip designs used for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► mobile devices will one day be powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► enough to run its desktops and laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► said three people knowledgeable of with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► knowledge of the work drank who has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► remain anonymous because the plans are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► confidential alright so typically Fuzzle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► esource thing and mostly gonna use as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► articles a jumping-off point for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► discussion about this idea and i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► to give sort of a cliff notes background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► on what i think are the important issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► behind this if you know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► cpu technology and none of this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► to be new information and i apologize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► but most of the time i do a show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► this i get positive feedback from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► people who may not be you know nerds in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► this particular section of the topic so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► if you're a tech nerd you can tune out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► for a while and just wait till the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► when i get to some conclusions and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► if you're not i hope i will at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► teach you something in broad strokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► that you may not have known too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► about before alright so let's start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► the risk versus sisk you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► stand for damn i do not remember i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► to know and back in college I there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► go you'll be one of those people I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► getting value out of the section that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► round all right so these are all caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► are is C and C is C rse is reduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► instruction set computing on complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► instruction set computing yeah you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► pulling stuff up all right no as you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► remembered second yeah this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► those i think it's pretty much like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► backronym where the the acronym Sisk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► didn't invent didn't exist until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► acronym risk was invented someone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► send me reckons it out but it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► like oh I have an idea and I've given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► name and I'm also going to give a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► to your idea because my idea is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► than your idea and I without contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► introduce anyway this was a hot debate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► know decade ago longer yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► couple other i would say longer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► i remember the well this came this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► the whole spark vs intel thing its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► the 90's yeah mid late nineties even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► before that does there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► articles from ARS technica that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► great to look at this prism the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► notes one is called risk versus sisk the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► post risk era by John Stokes from 1999 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► that's a really old one and there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► risk versus Sisk in the mobile error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► also by John Stokes in 2008 if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► nerdier backgrounds on this stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► suggest reading those articles all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► but I'm going to give you the cliff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► notes version so first let's start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► instruction set instructions that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► basically the list of things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► can ask a processor to do like you build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► this little piece of hardware and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► have to talk to it and what can you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► it to do it is the API for the processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► using the parlance of our time yeah cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► there's only you know what can you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► a processor to do this limited set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► things you can tell it to do and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► have to define them can you it can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► tell the process of dad two numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► together probably right so how do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► that while you tell this instruction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► you put this number here in this number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that you know there's a list of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► that you can tell it to do did you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► get assembly I sure did okay surely did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► yes too much assembly so how it works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► that you know these days is source code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► is compiled the machine code which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► like a list of instructions for the CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► and the CPU reads those instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► from memory and execute them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► machine code is a turd term you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► hear thrown around too much today mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► because not that relevant but what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► what it comes down to is just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► numbers right it's going to read a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► of numbers from memory and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► interpret them in a certain way that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► like oh when I see the number five that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► means the add instruction and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► next number is the one thing I'm adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► in the next number is the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► it's not really like that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► that's the idea ah almost nobody writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► machine code in the end these days uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► maybe people who would like me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► undergraduate course had to design their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► own CPUs and then program with machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► code ended up writing machine code where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► you just literally write a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► numbers it is like the least human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► friendly way to program I guess toggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► switches we worked so if you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► even type the numbers in you had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► them their binary representation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► toggle switches that would be worse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► no one does that right assembly which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► a term you may have heard assembly code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► is kind of like a symbolic version a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► machine code instead of having my number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► five you decide to if you type a DD the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► word ad we're going to tell us the ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► instructor so you don't have to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► that the add instruction is number five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► you just type in a DD and then the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► thing you type in a bunch of letters it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► says where it's getting one number from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► and you know whatever it's much nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► for human beings to not have to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► just a series of numbers they want words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► or and so they just basically map the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► words two numbers you take that assembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► code you run it through an assembler it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► reads the little words it converts them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► into the actual numbers and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► Machine execute those numbers and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► little words or those numbers that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► your instruction set about you've got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► add obstruction or subtract instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► and compare instructional also the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► they have numbers assigned to them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► write an assembly code the CPU is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► executing assembly code your assemblers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► looking at the assembly code converting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► them pretty much one to one into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► equivalent numbers putting them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► memory than getting the CPU to slurp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► those instructions out of memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► then go through each one execute it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► so and so forth right now people used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► write programs in assembly a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► than they do today now almost no one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► writing a machine code in our lifetimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► button assembly you know people used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► write programs that huge parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► original mac operating system were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► written in assembly not just the drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► or you know anything you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► it's like low-level code but just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► huge parts of the actual operating is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► like parts of the mac toolbox that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► the GUI like buttons and dialogues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► menus big parts of that were in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► assembly a lot of the reason they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► written assembly is because assembly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► like you know that's you talking almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► directly to the cpu granted you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► writing in a symbolic language thick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► converted into numbers but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► close to one to one correspondence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► what's going on inside the CPU so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► want to wring every last piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► performance out soon as I look CPU I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► gotta tell you do this then you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► you're going to put the result there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► the next instructor not going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► that result from there and put it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► here like very low level direct you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► not not a big layer of abstraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► between you and telling the CPU what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► do and assembly code can be very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► and very clever and do interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► things so and memory was very tight back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► then so large parts of the back-up rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► is written in assembly and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► writing anything in assembly what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► want is a a processor that has lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► powerful instructions for assembly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► you wanted to be able to write an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► something useful for you all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► here's an example of what later became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► computer single command that says take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► piece of memory from location a and move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► that piece of memory into a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► place in memory location B that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► like the simplest possible instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► you can do but it's not it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► pretty complicated because you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► telling the CPU go into Ram fine address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► 57 take the stuff that's there take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► bite take a word dick a bubble or take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► some piece of memory and then move it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► a different place in memory address 122 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► right that is actually relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► complicated because there's no way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► know it's it has to you have to the CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► have to pull the thing out of memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► hold it for a second and then stick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► into another place but if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► assembly you would want to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► write that you wouldn't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► write take the thing that's in memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► location 57 pull it into the CPU take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► out of the CPU and stick it into memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► location 256 you just want to say just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► move it from 56 to 27 or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► just one instruction right that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► example of a complex instruction set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► it's you can imagine the the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► steps that you want to do but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► want to have to write those individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► step you just want to sell cheap cell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► super you look let's move this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► from one place to the other because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► you didn't you have to write three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► instructions every time you just want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► to move something from one thing it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► the race back then was to make CPUs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► had really fancy instructions so that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► you're writing an assembler or even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► you're writing a compiler or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► you're like I don't need to handhold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► here's what I want you to do you figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► out how to do it I don't care how you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► complicated instruction and you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► the way you want it that's complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► instruction set computing because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► they all the CPU makers are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► make you know my CPU has an instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► and lets you you know compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► strings to see whether they're equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► just making this up but like like wow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► don't even have to go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► individual steps of that the CPU will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► just do it itself that's a great CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► it's powerful it's awesome right who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► wouldn't like that John right alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► here's here this kind of thing falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► down and I'm going to go into a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► analogy that's not even remotely close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► to being correct but hopefully give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► just what's going on right so I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► to say that this the complex instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► set computing having very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► instructions I can tell the computer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► do this complicated thing is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► like a sewing machine and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► particular sewing machine animated gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► that I tried to find on the web I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► like eight thousand versions of it I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► one in the chat room here I have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► seen this one you're looking at chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► room I am looking let me see oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► this is very essence old one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► great there's a glier ones too but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► machines work or have never used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► sewing machine take a look of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► animation you see all seen sewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► machines it's like a big machine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► like a needle and you put fabric down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► a table and you slide it into needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► needles up and down really fast up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► down up and down up and down you feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► the material through it and so does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► things together this animation shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► explains the mystery of the bobbin yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► like when the needle goes down in a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► machine it's not just just punching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► string through and pulling it back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► because that wouldn't work we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► make a series of holes all right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► a thread threaded through the needle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► when it goes down through the fabric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► into the table below it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► bobbin that basically takes some thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► that's on the bobbin and weave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► through the thread that came down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► the needle and you get stitches so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► you stare at this gif animation long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► enough you should get an idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► the basics of how a sewing machine works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► and it's actually you see what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► doing it's like you know if a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► probably do it in this exactly this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► but you end up getting a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► interlocked stitches with one set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► thread going down the needle and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► other set of thread on the bobbin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► the interlock with each other and so two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► pieces of fabric together and so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► a pretty ingenious machine I also put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► two links to a very old show called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► life of machines oh yeah which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► british show most notable to my young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► American self as the program where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► learned what sticky tape is as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► to non sticky tape i guess that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► they call scotch tape and Scotch is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► name brand anyway put a link to that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► the show notes it's like The Secret Life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► machine is a sewing machine part 1 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► part 2 I actually encourage you to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► these things yes they look like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► on terrible video from the 70s or 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and the people have British accents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► they're blurry but really watch it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► think by the end of watching these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► programs unlike by the end of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► podcast you will actually understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► sewing machines work and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► important because you can see you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► how how they figured out how to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► how to take this very complex series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► motions having one piece of thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► threaded through a hole in fabric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► take another piece of thread and loop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► through that and then come back out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► can you do that like without having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► human being threading things through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► little hole and guiding it through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► the Machine they came up with to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► looks almost nothing like it would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► like if your hands did it but it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► you know basically the bobbin is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► passed through not literally but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► know effectively the threat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► bobbin is being passed through a loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► brought down by the other needle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► it's quite an interesting little machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► philosophically what Sisk is like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► if you had to explain someone how to sew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► two things together uh with a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► locking stitch that holds two pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► fabric together you can do it but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► a lot of steps and you'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► wouldn't it be better if I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► sort of feed a piece of fabric through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► machine I say it machine look just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► that stitch thing I don't wanna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► tell you all the individual steps so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► basically comes down to is you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► punch needle through and then something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► grabs little thing and then you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► have a little bobbin it tucks its thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► through there but I don't have typed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► just want to have instruction called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► stitch and I hit a pedal on the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► anything goes stitch and I'm I just hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► down that pedal go stitch stitch stitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► stitch stage so I can feed the fabric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► through and I've made a sewing machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► is awesome sisk processors were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► sewing machines and the cooler steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► they could do the more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► stitches that they could do the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► powerful those CPUs were but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► sewing machine like there's a limit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► how fast the sewing machine can do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► it does if you stare at that animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► you're like okay how fast can this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► just a second ten stitches a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► maybe tonight of 20 maybe but now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► know my 20 stitches a second that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► pretty darn fast can you make a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► that performs a series of complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► stitches a second probably not someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► someone from the industrial sewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► machine world will send me some feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► on this show and tell me how fast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► fastest sewing machine in the world can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► go go but like at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► pressing the pedal to do one stitch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► it's like you told me to do one stitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► and I got into this series of 27 really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► complicated steps and the steps depend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► on each other the kind of interlocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► and you know you get into issues of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► physics of things hurtling past each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► other and you can't thread this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► through until the needle comes down but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► you got to make sure the needle is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► the way down before you grab it then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► but you have to start and stop a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► of machinery from moving it's there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► limit how fast a sewing machine can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► operate compare that limit of how fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► can I make this little sewing machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► thing go compare that limit to how fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► an electric motor can spin just plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► old straight barrel electric motor a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► sewing machine you know a thousand rpm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► 100 rpm and you know stitches per minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► rotations from it or whatever how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► stitches can you make per second doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► come close to an electric motor electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► motor can do tens of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► rotations per minute a electric motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► can spend very very fast you just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► know it you put it in some really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► ball bearings you have some magnets in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► coil of wire and electricity maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► even magnetically levitates spindles so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► there's no friction except for air that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► you could suck the air out of it to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► it a vacuum you know you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► electric motor spin really fast because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► all does is spin there's no oscillating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► parts there's no thread going through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► piece of fabric and one piece of thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► being shoved through a nose but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► just spinning that's all does it rotates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► around again and again and you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► that really really really fast and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► you want to make that luxury motor go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► really fast you know right where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► have to concentrate what are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► stopping me from going too fast friction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► uh that the force inside of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► I'm making it spin apart if it goes too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► fast you know that isn't the centripetal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► force on the outsides of the piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► metal causing to disintegrate but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► limits are way higher than the limits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► a sewing machine if you had a contest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► between the best engineers in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► how fast can you make a sewing machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► go versus how fast can you make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► the electric motor guys would destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► the sewing machine and sew the risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► philosophy was that they figured this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► out you know they said all right we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► making these awesome cpu's with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► really complicated instructions but geez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► every time we try to make these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► go faster like how fast can we make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► instruction to do some complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► operation I guess of all these steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► involved and they're all interlocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► with each other and this limit how fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► I can go with that what if we make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► CPU equivalent of that electric motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► where what it does is really stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► simple but we can do it really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► fast uh and so that's that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► definition of risk here from the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► Wikipedia article CPU design strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► based on the inside that simplified as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► opposed to complex instructions can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► simplicity enables much faster execution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► of each instruction so an example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► architecture it's a emergency for acorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► risc machines i believe and i forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► senate-passed show I'm not gonna look it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► up again there's only the second we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► feedback about if any way is a risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► machine and they use called like load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► store architectures and the reason load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► store architecture comes up is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► given that complex instruction operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► from before take a piece of memory from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► location 57 and move it to 128 on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► risc cpu that would be read the location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► 57 into register one right location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► right register one out into location in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► 256 so it would be two operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► instead of one I may have gotten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► wrong with the details so basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► can take any complicated operation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► decompose it into simpler operations so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► the move from one place member to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► another it's going to have to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► the CPU anyway there is no instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► that says move it from the settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► occasion the other one you have to issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► the two taken from here put it to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► take a rear porter there and that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► like a loss like wasn't it much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► when you could just tell it to move from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► one place to the other but in actuality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► because those those risk instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► are so simple you can make them go much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► faster and you can interleave them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► each other and duels all sorts of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► themselves are small and so everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► about risk machines was designed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► more like the electric motor and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► won't have any special hardware special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► registers that only serve a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► purpose when you divide two numbers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► result always goes in this register they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► wanted to have a big very uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► register file with lots of what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► call general purpose registers we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► like when you divide two numbers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► result doesn't always have to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► this register it can go in any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► registers in fact all the registers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► same and we have a bunch of them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► there's going to be a bunch of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► little tiny instructions and flight at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► once and maybe we can put more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► parallel and intro leave them with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► other we just want to make it regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► and uniform they did stuff like uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► know either discouraging or outright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► forbidding unaligned memory access you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► know old machines would be like we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► read memory anywhere you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► start from a particular location you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► just tell me you can read you a bite at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► a time from anywhere in memory and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► risk machines are more like now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► only do a line memory access you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► start on on a you know a multiple of 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► bits or multiple 16 bits or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► some of the trunk like that if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► inconvenient for you tough luck take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► the bigger piece bring it into the CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► chop it up how you want uh and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► basically you know making it much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► less pleasant to program an assembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► language because you're getting a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► much dumber simpler machine that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► much more limitations and so many ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► into assembly programming be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► don't want to program a risc cpu I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► to tell it how to do everything and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► instructions i wanted to aren't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► there I can't even pull a byte of memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► from here I gotta pull like 32 bits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► memory and mask it to get the bytes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► want and it's just this terrible right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► uh that's not what I was designed for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► was designed for an age where compilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► right that for you and optimize it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► you purely because like the electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► motor they could spin a risc cpu really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► really fast and in CPU world spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► really fast is the clock speed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► megahertz how many instructions per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► second or how many cycles per second can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► can happen oh the other thing that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► done these on risky p uses they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► instruction executes in a single clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► not everyone because this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► complicated division instructions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► stuff like that but they would want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► would not want to have an instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► like a one sis cpus where it's some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► complicated instruction like the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► machine it takes 17 cycles to execute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► you know adding two numbers here they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► wanted all their instructions to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► simple that every single one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► executed in a single cycle except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► maybe a couple of outliers so again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► entire instruction set the entire CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► architecture was designed to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► CPU go fast and not to make assembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► ye're and and or you know anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► that they've expected a compiler to spit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► out this stuff all right let me see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► up man these are there's some good rants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► for me today yeah I'm really revisiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► old territory all right let's do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2941">TS</a>]
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00:49:30 ◼ ► to everything that's in there so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► you can teach yourself stop from experts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► they have experts who are working in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► industry with real-world experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► creating these things teaching these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► things and selling them there and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► really really cool I love learning with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► screencast and of course I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► probably biased because I've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► screencast before I used to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► living doing screencast but I love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► stuff it's over on lynda.com that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/2992">TS</a>]
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00:50:04 ◼ ► videos out there they made a special URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► you can visit linda.com / 5 by 5 and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3007">TS</a>]
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00:50:16 ◼ ► free and you'll support the show you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► make John Happ you'll make me happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► Linda calm / 5 / 5 check them out so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► got some numbers on actual risk and CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► in terms of number of registers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► stuff just to reinforce the point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► the register whether they call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► register file how many differenter says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► you have so the PowerPC cpu used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► in max that's also a risc cpu and like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► said risks abused and have way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► registers and they're all kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► know no special purpose registers or few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► special purpose or mostly generate lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► of general-purpose registers so power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► busy had 32 general purpose registers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► and 32 floating point registers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► compared to x86 intel chips back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► had six registers which were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► sort of dedicated special purpose not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► all them are really general sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► I said you know when you did a divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► instruction the result always had to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► in a particular register and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► that plus a couple of other things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► like stack pointers and stuff 32-bit x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► had six general purpose registers plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► some extended versions of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► stack pointer registers and stuff 64-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► they added a few more you got 14 general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► purpose registers plus the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► and so you see like x86 has been trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► to add more registers but PowerPC from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► the day was born had this you know huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► number registered more registers than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► you would expect the human being to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► track of because if you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► assembling you got to keep track of 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► registers like I will tell that i put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► register 17 i want to add these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► numbers together was that in register 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► or 57 it's just you can imagine writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► assembly by hand and like it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► keep track of these things that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► all just called r 1 r 7 r 15 are three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► and they're all the same and how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► keep track of where anything is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► it's totally made for a machine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► registers to work with and I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► keep track of them and have sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► register allocation algorithm I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► out how to use them when I compile this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► code it's much better for a machine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► floating point is a good example to on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► x86 based have a separate floating-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► floating-point unit which was a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► dedicated separate little thing itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► would eventually moved on die but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► stack base where you put your number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► push another number and then push on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► multiplication would multiply the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► two numbers on the stack but you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► also reach down lower into the stack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► do stuff and I it's not really conducive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► to parallelization because when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► a stack it's like a stack of plates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► where you pushed push two plates on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► top and perform an operation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► combines those two plates into one plate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► and puts the result back on top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► stack and if you want have 17 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► operating at the same time on a stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► it's not really great because of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► a stack works you can have some guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► the middle yanking things in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► because what if the guy on the top was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► doing yet anyway stack-based floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► point was also a problem for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► because it was kind of designed in in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► different error when the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► thing wasn't like parallel execution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► simplicity of things now what all is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► article that is referred to at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► front of the article by John Stokes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► in reference to like Cisco versus risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► at the post ristic post risk era that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► I'll sort of rehashing this cisco stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► that I just talked about and explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► how although that was the origin of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► risk movement it's much less relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► today because these days when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► this x86 quote-unquote CPU have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► complex complex instructions the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► they work internally is they take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► complicated instruction that says move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► something from one memory address to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► another and RAM and they break it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► into what they call micro operations so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► they say okay even though you said move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► this data word from address here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► address there I'm going to break that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► single instruction into two smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► instructions one that says get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► thing from memory and put it into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► register and other that says take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► register and stick and into memory all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► right so they basically taken a sisk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► instruction set and inside the CPU break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► approximating a RISC instruction set and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► the actual CPU is built to execute these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► tiny little micro operations it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► executing you know it doesn't the CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► instruction that says to do 50 things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► sees a stream of tiny little micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► operations that were created from those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► single instructions so they build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► entire CPU internally to execute these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► micro operations very efficiently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► very quickly and they just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► decoder part on the front on the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► instruction see and it decodes it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► these simpler ones and that's the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► of getting at the post risk era where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► it's like all right so the instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► set itself how relevant is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► everybody inside is building basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► risk CPUs and if you have a complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► instructions that you just need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► decoder now part of the CPU and an x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► chip is dedicated to all the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► has to say okay I've got this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► complicated instruction coming in how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► many micro operations does that break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► hardware that automatically breaks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► down into the micro operations or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► a really complicated one but i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► have like a little software microcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► program that tells me how to break this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► down you need to dedicate part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► chip just to dealing with this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► by the way have to keep track of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► little micro operations you have to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► of reassemble the result in to like make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► instruction really executed like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► can't have things go out of order it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► to look to the assembly programmer just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► like those old x86 chips from Intel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► actually did implement this complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► instruction set internally despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► fact that inside is basically a risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► like CPU executing all the stuff so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► have all this the front-end hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► reassembling of things and making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► the exact timings and exact rules are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► maintained and they behave exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► same as they used to uh and the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► back in the 90s was that all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► Intel may have figured out that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► wrist thing is a good idea because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► can make their CPUs run faster but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► have to dedicate all this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► energy and parts of the chip and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► they have to you know they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► have to have this whole whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► gunk inside their CPUs to translate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► their crappy complicated instruction set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► into the simpler one and keep track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► everything and that's bad because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► know the PowerPC you guys don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► do that they don't have the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► section of the chip doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► exist to break down their instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► into micro operations and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► that is they already are micro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► everything's fine so therefore PowerPC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► is going to win and risk is awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► Intel drools and so on so forth and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► a technical perspective I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► feeling that way that like Intel looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► like the crusty crappy thing you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► well they may have clever engineers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► they may have figured out to break up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► their instructions to smaller ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► stuff but they gotta deal with all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► that you know making that stuff to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► up the instructions and keeping track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► them and reassembling the results and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► keeping the order or consistent that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► thanks x86 thinks it's ugly it's gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► right Intel also basically agreed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► it was ugly in gross and they trot have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► been trying for years and years to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► rid of the ugliest and grossest part so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► the stack based floating-point that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► not really great for doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► quickly or in parallel they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► deprecating that they have to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► supporting it but they're like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► don't if if you're writing a compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► for example I and someone's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► floating-point math don't generate x87 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► floating-point thing because that's slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► and it's always been slow and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► going to probably get much faster we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► still have to support it you just saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► all your old programs are running stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► something that they called SSE streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► simdi extensions cingulate single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► instruction multiple data it's a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► process lots of data in parallel once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► like if you have you know two sets of 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► numbers and you want to add the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► set of 50 numbers to the second set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► 50 numbers you're have instruction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► does it all at once and that may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► but it also operates on floating point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► numbers and they said look compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► writers even though you may not think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► you're doing like you know doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► single instruction on 50 pieces of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► the floating part hardware we have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► this in these SSE parts of our chip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► way faster in that stack based one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► can do stuff in parallel don't generate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► instructions for a stack-based floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► point if you see any floating point code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► in your you know high level you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► higher level bin assembly your C program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► or whatever just target the RSS see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► extensions and that will make your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► go faster so they have they had four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► versions of SSC so far i think is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► you know I just keep version them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► making them more and more powerful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► these days if you compile a program for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► an Intel chip you would hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► there's no stack-based floating-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► stuff being sent to the chip despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► fact that it the chip is still able do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► that all the floating-point stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► parallelizable non stack base flowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► point Intel also went for 32-bit 64-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► and they took that while not Intel but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► AMD actually AMD came up with a x86 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► which is a 64-bit bunch of instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► that only work on 64-bit chips chips ba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► programs and they took that as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► opportunity to make a new instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► set that is more amenable to modern ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► designs than the old one because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► were no 64-bit instructions at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► before there was 64 bit chicks so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► don't have to just make like we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► have to stick with the old ways this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► an opportunity this is a discontinuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► to come up with a better instruction set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► they'd added registers they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► made the rules about how the the 64-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► instructions execute make it easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► tracking and parallelization a lot stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► Intel was off doing its own thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► the Itanium and another right I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► that day talk about a very long word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► instruction computing all stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► whole other topic but anyway so if I sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► decide that Intel's thing didn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► work out x86 64 caught on and now Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► makes chips with x86 64 but this wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► another opportunity for them to get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► of old crusty stuff say if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► targeting if your compiler writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► you're targeting 64-bit CPUs use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► cool new instructions and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► access to more registers and see isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► sir isn't our cpu architecture getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► to be more like those nice clean RISC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► architectures where you had just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► bunch of general purpose registers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► bunch of general purpose registers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► simple instruction set we're not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► yet but we're slowly trying to abandon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► our craft right so that that is the path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► that that Intel the the leading CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► vendor with its complex instruction sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► abused has been pursuing to try to reap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► the advantages of the risk revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► instruction set on it CPUs so hold this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► thought about risk versus cysts for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► moment that hopefully you have some at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► least sort of feel for and we do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► sidebar into one other topic that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► come back and turn out to be relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► all right so all the stuff we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► talking about is you know for processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► so what is a processor and how do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► make it that turns out to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► important you all know the process a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► little black chip that we see in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► diagram is the flat thing it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► little metal contact somewhere on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► inside that little black package is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► semiconductor it's like a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► silicon it's very flat and the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► make stuff on it is they use lithography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► to etch things onto it and with ography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► is just basically shining light or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► other light like thing through a mask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► that block some of the light and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► some through and they use materials and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► techniques so that when the light hits a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► certain area it changes the material in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► one way and like doesn't hit the area it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► leaves the material the other way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► they do this to make very small things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► basically by using different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► light and different ways to focus it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► you know other techniques they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► very small features that no machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► could ever edge like the little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► things that are on these chips but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► that they they can focus a light another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► I don't know what you would call it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► electromagnetic radiation into very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► small areas and so they can make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► mask actually relatively big and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► use lenses and stuff to focus it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► and make different features they do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► again and again until they wear away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► material on certain things and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► they're basically trying to make is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► transistor think thing they can switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► on and off and they do this by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► doing layers of material that allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► ektron electrons to flow through them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► not depending on if some current is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► applied to some other layer of material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► but the point is that these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► things that are etched on here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► lithography is called the feature size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► or sometimes the process node I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► look up a good definition to this we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► hear these numbers bandied about we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► talked about on this show when we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► like oh the they're using ad I Shrunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► version of the a5 in the ipad 2 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► new ipad 2 is it used to be about forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► nanometers alright so nanometers is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► they measure that's that's the scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► things are measured these days it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► to be was it a microns or micrometers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► and remember what it was before we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► down to nanometers but they it nanometer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► is very small right and what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► measuring is the call the half pitch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► the half that half the distance between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► identical features on the edge piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► silicon usually for a memory cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► because memory cells are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► regular doesn't mean that every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► thing on a 32 nanometer chip is 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► nanometers wide or 32 nanometers apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► but it's like it's a they need some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► to measure these things because larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► features are chunkier and smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► simpler features can be skinnier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► they've just come up with a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► standard for how we talk about how small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► you can make stuff and that number is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► marching down for all of our lives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► used to be you could not make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► that were you know very small at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► compared to what we have now and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► just keep getting smaller and smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and smaller and smaller every year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► that means the entire thing shrinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► because you can make every piece smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► than the whole thing gets smaller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► smaller and smaller right so Ivy Bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► processors that's Intel's processes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► in the macbook air is macbook pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► Intel's current crop of desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► laptop CPUs they are done at the 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► nanometer process note and they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► bunch of other features you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► their 3d transistors different ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► etch things onto the the silicon thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► so too can jam more stuff in a closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► the thing but bottom line is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► are 22 nanometers right uh and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► general as you shrink this feature size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► as you make everything smaller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► smaller almost everything improves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► cost improves tremendously because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► unit of cost is like how many of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► little chips can I fit onto a silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► wafer so looking way for some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► circular thing maybe the size of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► basketball or something you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► and if you can fit 10 chips on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► it costs you you know a hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► to make one of those wafers then each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► chip cost you ten bucks to make but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► you can get a thousand ships on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► same way for suddenly the cost per chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► goes way down so shrinking things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► good because your costs are like I cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► me a certain amount to etch a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► piece of silicon and that costs like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► dependent on a whole bunch other factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► but the point is if I can jam more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► more cpus onto that piece of silicon the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► cost of making it doesn't go go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► doesn't go up I would love to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► put more things on here so the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► things you can spit on to a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► silicon wafer you know the better it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► for you right the power required to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► these dinky little things goes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► because if you can make them smaller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► smaller if you can imagine if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► to run it chip the size of a dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► plate a single chip it would take a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► of power to run that thing when you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► them small you don't need as much power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► uh and the speed goes up for variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► reasons but even just like in it the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► the very high end of the scale look if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► the thing was the size of a basketball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► it takes a certain amount of time for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► electrical signal or propagate from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► upper left corner to lower right corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► whereas if the thing is the size of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► thumbnail that distance shrinks and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► you're going really really fast they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► seem like oh I'll don't the electrons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► travel close to the speed of light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► doesn't make that well it makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► difference when you're trying to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► know go billions of cycles per second or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► whatever how r this one thing that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► is a problem when you may think smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► you make them really really small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► suddenly it becomes really easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► electrons that you didn't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► somewhere just sort of just slip through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► like you make things so small that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► random electrons kind of rattling around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► end up sort of leaking through or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► didn't want them to go just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► everything is so small like when things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► are big and chunky you can put a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► wall between uh no electrons can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► through here I'm totally putting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► this big wall but when things are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► really really tiny that wall is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► skinny that occasionally maybe a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► electrons start floating through there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► and that's called leakage current and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► there are various techniques to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► control that but that's when you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► getting really small like down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► size of like you were you measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► feature sizes and you know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► atoms are there it between this area in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► that area then you have some problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► but in general doing shrinks is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► there's another article again by John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► Stokes also an older our goal talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► aw Moore's Law is the thing we hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► thrown around in the world of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► a lot that most light people i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► computers get faster and faster all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► time which is not what Moore's law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► actually says it's like a third level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► consequence of it but Moore's law was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► set as saying as he was just noting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► in the early days of semiconductors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► number of transitions we can shove on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► a particular area keeps doubling every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► 12 months basically he was noting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► they they keep being able to shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► their feature sizes so before on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► one silicon wafer we could fit 10 CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► then 12 months from now we can fit 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► and after that we can put 40 in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► 12 months after that we can fit ad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► it just keeps going up and up and he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► the graph means like wow soon we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► going to be able to shove huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► transistors on to yeah right now we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► thumbnail soon we'll be able to do chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► computing if you gave a chip designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► more transistors to work with they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► make a more powerful CPU beach like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► before I could I can only add two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► numbers together at once but now I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► double the number of transistors I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► just add another a door right nice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► and that they can both go at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► time and i can add four numbers together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► at the same time isn't that great and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► can add more memory and more cache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► memory and also the things that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► better with shrinking things so being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► able to have more transistors at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► disposal has led to you know for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► first couple decades of cpu development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► every year computers would get faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► and faster because those guys had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► cpus that they could deal with and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► know they could either make your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► thing your existing cpu cost half as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► much or they can make a new cpu that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► cost the same amount that goes twice as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► fast and that was a great run for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► long it lasted but not in general the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► number of transistors doesn't exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► equal speed but in the early days it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► now this was during the the risk versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► sisk wars we're like oh we've got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► increasing number of transistors but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► your instruction set is stupid and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► have a better one and you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► parole this decode hardware on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► everything and risk was technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► superior because it didn't you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► said we found a way to make you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► you're doing a sewing machine and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► got an electric motor and we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► this go so fast look at this we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► 1 gigahertz alpha processor you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► get the 1 gigahertz because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► run your sewing machine that fast and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► tell guys had to go back to the drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► board how how how the hell can we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► this thing go faster we've got to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► things things down into small pieces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4138">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► then do our little internal core that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► runs fast then have the external part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► track everything and like now the risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► guys were laughing at him right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► you guys suck you made a bad choice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► know you were there early we come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► later we have a better solution we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► going to crush you the dec alpha the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► PowerPC all sorts of killer chips from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► these risc cpu vendors in like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► 90s we're going to put Intel out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► business now Intel smart and they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► instructions and stuff like that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► real thing that saved Intel's bacon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► the aforementioned Moore's law that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► every year you could fit more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► transistors on to the same size chip ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► and that is relevant because as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► number of transistors per unit area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► increases and you know as the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► transistors available to given cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► increases the relative percentage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► total transistor count used by all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► ugly x86 decoding and tracking hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► becomes a smaller and smaller percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► of the total alright so you can do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► complete x86 implementation in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► 29,000 transistors like the 8086 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► 29,000 transistors right obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► modern CPUs need you know they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► more complicated stuff than the 8086 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► it goes goes to show the like how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► transistors do you need to take x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► instructions crack them into micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► operations track them as they go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► the machinery and reassemble them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4223">TS</a>]
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01:16:58 ◼ ► percent off whether you do the month to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► month or the year it's all cumulative so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► go check them out support this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► squarespace com / 5 by 5 code is dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► at me 11 more details in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► all right Apple switching to arm meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► Apple stops putting Intel CPUs in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► macs and replaces would this be with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► this is the arm CP would this be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► bigger move John then switch to Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► back in what was it Oh 306 yes it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► be no I explain why so what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► challenges facing Apple if they decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► to do this first thing they have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► is they have to match the performance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► Intel CPUs maybe you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► exceed them but you at least have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► match it because if you have into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► cpus now and you're saying we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► them anywhere we want arm CPUs well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► don't want to make everything slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► right and you don't have to match the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► current Intel CPUs you have to match the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► upcoming Intel CPUs like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► have to look at intel's roadmap and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► well they say in this year they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► all with the cpu can we make something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► that's as has that kind of performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► Intel is really good at making CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► right Apple's asics is by all accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► very good and nicely designed everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► but Apple didn't have to design the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► instruction set itself it sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► licensed that from arm and the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► that is doing at CPU it's a smaller CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► it looks like it was hand laid out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► ambitious as the crazy stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► entailed does routinely to make its x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► chips fast because x86 is still ugly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► disgusting and they manage to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► go fast they've got serious skills there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► look at AMD the only other real viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► competitor to Intel back in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► desktop server CPU wars they am d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► invented the x86 64 instructions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► ball Intel was off screwing things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► with the Itanium AMD has lots of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► know has some skilled there for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► AMD was faster and better than intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► back when Intel was in the net burst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► concentrate entirely on clock speed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► the detriment of everything else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► turned out to not be a good idea so AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► was ahead for a while uh but these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► intel has come roaring back and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► their house in order and they've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► performance for many years now uh and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► you look at like the Geekbench scores of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► like you know people say what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► we'll just use the a6 in a macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► like I'm picking geekbench just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► it's a site that I could find you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► there's very difficult to benchmark CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► and say what makes one fast or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► but no matter how bad and synthetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► these benchmarks are at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► it makes a difference so like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► iphone 5 from the geekbench score is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► was like 1600 or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► under there their scores confuse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► ipad 3 someone said an ipad 3 with an a6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► but the ipad 3 doesn't have an asic so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► that's also computing but anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► ipad the fastest ipad score i could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► was like 5,000 the macbook air scores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► that I could find we're like 8,000 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► and then the Mac Pro scores for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► the mac pro at the top of 36,000 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► iphone 5 with an a6 at 1000 that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► an order of magnitude difference they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► in range between what what these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► arm CPUs can do no one's saying you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► going to put an a6 into a mac but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► just goes to show that Apple has yet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► build an arm CPU that is performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► competitive with it so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► they have something ready to go even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► like the a-15 which is a the reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► design from RM CPUs or whatever there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► a long gap between anything any actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► shipping Intel CPUs so somehow Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► would be it's their responsibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► now bridge that gap because again you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► not want to ship the next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► MacBook Airs that are slower than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► current generation so you have to match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► them that's hard to do right second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► this is the real killer you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► match their power consumption because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► supposedly going to arm is like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► use arm CPUs and our phones and they sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► battery and then we keep using these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► hot power-hungry Intel CPUs and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► MacBook Airs uh well you can't just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► the current crop of arm CPUs and stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► them to a Mac because they're way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► slow and if you can make them as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► now you have to make them as fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► make them you know and not make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► upcoming line of stuff uh and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► biggest factors not the biggest factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► and how much power your CPU takes is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► process size and as previously mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► Intel is an entire generation ahead on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► nanometer chips Intel's shipping 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► nanometer chips and that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► advantage when it comes to to power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► right so for desktops and laptops is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► possible to match or exceed Intel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► performance and its performance per watt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► at a bigger process node like can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► make can you make a cpu at 30 nanometers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► that has better performance and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► performance per watt than intel when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► they get to use 22 nanometers probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► not that's probably pretty much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► physical impossibility no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► awesome you are and how in company intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► is an intel is not incompetent right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► and even if you could what would your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► advantage be say okay i think that at 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► nanometers i can make a chip that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► better price performance than intel even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► though they get to make all the chips of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► 22 nanometers right ah say you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► lower costs you know because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► fit way more chips onto a wafer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► they've been doing it for longer and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► the way you have to find someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► manufacture this chip for you and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► the articles mentions I could use a TSMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► taiwan semiconductor manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► semiconductor foundry you give them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► design they manufacture it they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► in the process they're not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► business of making ships you just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► okay you've got a design fab it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► make these chips again they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► consistently a generation behind what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► Intel can produce an Intel does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► really rent out its boundaries to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► competitors oh yeah until it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► to say hey you want to make a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► Sierra will make your arm chips for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► 20 nanometers just give us a design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► we'll turn them out no that's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► what they're interested in for obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► reasons right when Apple switched from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► PowerPC to Intel i wrote an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► about this i linked in the show notes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► general it was a relief because finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► apple fans and Apple itself could stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► worrying about oh god Intel's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► new chips coming out and they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► awesome and their generation ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► process node and they're there really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► fast and we need power pc chips that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► compete with those and we have to go beg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► IBM to make them for us or big motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► role to do something that's just finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► it was really fly right we're off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► bandwagon whatever Intel comes out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► we get to reap those benefits now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► suddenly Apple users for the past I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► don't know how many years it's been for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► a long time now we've not had to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► about sea views we've not had to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► about Max or slow because they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► crappy CPUs they use the same ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► everyone else which also happened to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► the best ones in terms of price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► performance which are from Intel going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► back to arm would mean that you are back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► on the hook of like oh god oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► Intel's coming out with new chips we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► need to we need to make something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► as good as these new Intel chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► Apple hurry up and designed that arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► chip that's gonna you know compete with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► Intel chips and that horse race will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► back which would be exciting but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► depressing if Intel starts kicking our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► butts uh one obvious question here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► like okay so if Intel's always ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► process note and they're making 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► nanometer chips why don't all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► iphones and ipads use intel chips ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► that's a good question for the senior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► leadership at intel because part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► problem has been that thus far intel has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► not well first of all when you get down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► to small sizes suddenly that x86 burden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► becomes more relevant again because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► you're making a 1.4 billion transistor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► number of transistors you need to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► with x86 crap is a small percentage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► if you make a much much much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► smaller chip with far fewer transistors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► like the a6 suddenly the excess stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► there starts to count you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► geez I would really like if I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► have to deal with the x86 stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► arm chips don't have to deal with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► very simple very straightforward risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► machines that's why a 32 nanometer a6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► chip can even compete in the mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► space because the x86 burden is relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► they're like the best of both worlds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► would be take apples a6 design and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► Intel phablet at 22 nanometers but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► doesn't exist because until it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► going to do that for you and Intel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► trying to make wimpier and wimpy or CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► it's got its Adam line of processors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► they just keep going you know Intel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► going down down down scale and as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► goes down scale smaller chips fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► transistors the x86 stuff starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► become relevant again which must stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► and Intel's crawl but what else can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► do because that's what they've got until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► used to have holdings in arm and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► divested itself from arm and dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► itself to x86 and as you know that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► they show to about whether they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► the right move over there but the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► line is that you've got arm way down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► the low end with a very simple low power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► chip design but a generation behind in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► manufacturing not that our manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► stuff but like whoever they're fabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► them it's not Intel I mean you and Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► trying to bring it's it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► successful desktop products down market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► and mostly failing to do so and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► that's the pensioner that's the gap we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► explanation that I see it for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► floated rumor about Apple going to Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► and this is you know what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► thinks as soon as they see it it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► apples not ditching Intel there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► nothing viable they can move to this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► just a negotiating ploy so that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► can get good prices out of Intel for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► next generation of chips or so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► Apple can influence Intel and say until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► we really want you to do XY and Z and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► make him tell us into them because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► know they all ride we heard you might go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► to arm don't do that let's kiss and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► up right ah that's kind of like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► Apple was talking to Intel for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► years when he was shipping powerpc macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► part of us like oh they're just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► to Intel because they're trying to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► IBM or motorola or whoever was at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► time to make them the chip that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► wanted they're not actually going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► to Intel but they have to keep talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► with Intel because otherwise you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► IBM won't make the g5 for Apple right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► negotiating ploy apparently stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► working uh and I've actually did go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► phenomenon over the course of many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► years could happen here where these arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► you know bringing the next arm rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► keeps getting floated and floated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► they keep using it is negotiating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► leverage at a certain point until calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► they're bluffing says you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► we've got to take care of our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► business oh you know we've got to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► something and yeah the chips were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► to make are perfectly suited to you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► you're just gonna have to deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► maybe until it does leave them and go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► arm and starts up that race again uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► don't know final couple closing thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► here yes Intel's market cap is a as of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► the time of a these show notes 1.4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► billion Apple has more cash than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► like in its bank account at some of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► long-term you know not not immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► liquid or whatever but could Apple by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► Intel probably ever really wanted to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► you wanted to spend all it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► spending you know you get you you save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► money for years and years and years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► you spend it all in one spot yeah Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► antitrust would be a problem there or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► whatever but I don't know of a parolee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► wants to be in that business apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► doesn't buy like the people who make its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► products it you know contracts it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► and maybe buys hardware for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► funds the development of their thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► they don't want to be in the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► they want someone else to deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► the ugly low-margin part of the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► they just want the high Martin so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► don't think apples going to buy Intel ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► apple's market cap is currently five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► hundred billion and rapidly dropping uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► because of their stock being slam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► recently but there's this I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► yeah I know you're not a stock analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► analyst then you won't do an analysis on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► the show but uh is this a good time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► buy Apple stops I don't know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► gonna you won't even go into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► won't do it I I don't know if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► good time the stock market I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► underst no one understands the stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► market I don't know sorry certainly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► better to buy now than it was the by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► Mary was 700 dollars but I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► don't know I can I don't know why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► stock is going down I don't know why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► keeps going down so if you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► that's probably a bad time to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► anything if you don't understand what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► happened I don't understand what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► happening so I give you know advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► about whether you should buy it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► but so I'll take that as a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► yeah but anyway that's okay that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► situation Apple is in I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► can feasibly go to arm CPUs in its max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► unless it dedicates a huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► money and time over the course of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► next several years to coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► something that can compete with intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► intel has its own problems because many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► many more mobile cpus are being bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► then desktop CPUs and that ratio keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► getting worse and worse for them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► intel has to get into the mobile space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► somehow it seems to me though that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► two forces should lead to an arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► whereby Apple and Intel's interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► become aligned at some point until once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► processors a certain way Apple talks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► Intel eventually they come to some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► of agreement and this arm stuff is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► noise right but on the other hand like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► you know Bob Mansfield coming back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► have big plans for the semiconductor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► division or whatever it could just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► good business just like it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► business to constantly be talking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► Intel and constantly be having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► version of you know Mac OS 10 for Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► in the labs or whatever it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► good business for Apple to at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► investigate what would it take to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► arm CPU design they'll be competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5398">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► with Intel and how many years would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► take how much money would it take and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► let's let's have that project and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► also consider how much would it take if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► we just paid Intel to make our chips for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► us and can we convince in tell toofab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► our stuff at 22 nanometers can Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► itself invest enough money to suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► match Intel's ability to fab chips you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► know and their expertise probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► like many options are on the table but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► think this this entire story at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► point is like this is something to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► in the same way that you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► been watching those silly rumors about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► Apple talking to Intel or talking to AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► for years and years and years before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► they actually did the switch it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► it's easy to dismiss that stuff but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► think it's it's good idea just keep an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► eye on that because Apple has many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► options here and none of them are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► that good and same with Intel they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► many options and not really that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► either but I think what I think is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► eventually if Apple and Intel keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► along the current path their interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► will be sufficiently aligned such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► they will become be able to come to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► mutually beneficial agreement that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► not involve Apple 100% jilting them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► making its own arm processors ah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► I think that is a really really tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► order and the biggest thing against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► tells still ahead of everyone by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► generation and processed note if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► changes if suddenly everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► catches up the Intel and Apple can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► its chips fabbed at the same size as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► Intel can then that's a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► ballgame but like I said for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► years intel has been ahead and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► to be a sustainable advantage on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► on their part and they invest tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► amount of money billions billions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► dollars into maintaining that advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► very few other companies have the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► of money to invest in that or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► expertise or the people Apple probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► has the money but probably doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► the expertise and I don't think they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► hire away all of them tells people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► I'll let us say keep watching this space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► but for now don't worry next year's crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► of max will not have ARM processors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► them or at least all the moon anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► maybe one of them will who knows but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► yeah don't hold your breath all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► even if you say so I say so pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► argument it's not much of an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► there little background and then an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► to watch do you expect on arm max next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► year not next year ner max a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► pilot program arm Mac and experimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► one just one nothing behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► behind closed doors I'm sure but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► know here if you think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► everything that Apple has done as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► wanting to control their own destiny the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► move to Intel is in large part so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► they could have more control that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► the whole issue that they had with power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► anything fast they switched until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► get the day get the fast stuff right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► not so much because they controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► Intel but just because Intel's interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► was to make the best jede falsche stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► yeah right and so now they were never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► second leg Intel Intel will you please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► make us good desktop making good desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► processors right we can't let the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► them right but now it's getting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► point where Apple's like Intel please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► like I know you want to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► specific things we want to retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► display can you build in the GPU can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► drive a Retina display all this noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► i'm on the intel HD graphics 3000 just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► barely or 4000 we're just barely can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► drive a Retina display but we totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► reten everywhere can you please make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► your in ship GPU better and was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► priority for us right now yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► suddenly Apple's having to beg Intel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► little bit but yeah going away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► power pc is like finally we don't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► beggining one for a CBO they they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► by the way i will use the opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► get as much leverage as I possibly could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► an Intel like you know until is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► make chips just for us and we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► site member they made that crazy shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► version for the original macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► like they got Intel to make like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► custom chip just for them it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► jam a cpu I think it was the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► macbook air like Apple has been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► its leverage like you know at first it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► was like don't you want us we're like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► trophy brand you can say your stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► in Apple CPUs and then it was like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► sell a lot of intel cpus and your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► you know and now it's like apples like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► you know how you have any idea how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► mobile cpus we sell if you want any part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► of that business ever you better listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► to us I know you're not getting any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► it now but someday you know talk to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► maybe you can convince us to change all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► of our iphones and ipads and iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► to x86 if you've ever maked these an x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► chip you know like the negotiations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► getting more strained between those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► companies but i have to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► eventually they will their heads will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► come together and we'll get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► good out of this well let's say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► what I mean I think Apple like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► Apple would be thrilled if Intel would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► just do that kind of thing but then each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► if you think about it each of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► that Apple relies on for from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► vendors that it doesn't control that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► feels that it's like there's this rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► that just came out that the new imacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► are going to be delayed because of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► welding issue this is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► Apple pretty much can can control so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► that's their fault but if they can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► enough screens you know that that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► got a bug now we can't get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► screens if they can't get a cpu that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► gonna do what they want if they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► offload graphics to the cpu the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► they want these are things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► would think apple's gonna say well we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► got some money let's let's just do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► ourselves I don't like that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► mean Samsung as we haven't you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► like they don't want to pay Samsung now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► to make all the ASIC cpus and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► like that's why they've been pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► this stuff in-house like we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► I'm Jack may be five we want to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► custom design ship and we want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► think the ax is not just being fat by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► sams I may be wrong about this but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► but paying Samsung to make your cpu's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► that's bad Samsung is the only other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► person making money in the smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► market you don't want to be paying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► any money so yeah I can imagine Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► expertise but like they can't just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► can't just leave Samsung immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► there's a certain you know can you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► what Samsung gives you from someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► at the same price and if the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► no you got to grit your teeth and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5758">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► going to Samsung all the while Sam we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► got to have a plan to get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► Samsung like wooden tap beloved oocyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► pleat like if Apple can get in tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► toofab the a7 in its best process node [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► at that time that would be a humongous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► victory but it is not an Intel strategic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► interest to become like a fab four other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► people ship designs right so the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► know most in need to come together on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► technology we don't want your chips then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► tells like we want to sell our chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► because becoming a fab is a low-margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► business and we get much better margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► by making our own you know so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► know this I would love to beat see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► negotiations because they're happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► now like what is the a7 gonna be who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► gonna make it and where is it going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► be shipped like maybe that maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► too late for those and those discussions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► have already taken place right but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► the one after that for the a8 and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► any possible like arm and Intel arm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► Max type negotiations those have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► happening now like we need a plan we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► need to talk to people we know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► don't want to do we don't want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► Samsung any more money and we also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► want to use any of the chips that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► Intel's currently offering us because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► they're way too power hungry we want ra8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► manufacturing process in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► world uh at a really cheap price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► Intel doesn't want that they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► something different so yeah those they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► need to come together on something but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► you know the only the only way i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► imagine apple going full split off is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► they have like a concrete plan where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► they really believe that they can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► line of max that is not embarrassingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► slower or crappier than what they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► have been if they had intel cpus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► intel is going to do everything in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► power to make sure that apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► never even thinks that's possible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► they just need to make apple like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► despair for their ability to match intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► cpu so they won't even attempt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► because I until will show them their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► roadmap and say you're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► it's gonna compete with this look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► this do you this is art this is our road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► map that's what they did to get apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► business they said yeah current line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► CPUs suck but look at this upcoming lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► of core processors they are awesome they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► are really fast they're low power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► that was all true and Intel delivered on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► that commitment like they you know back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► then was like why doesn't happen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► AMD don't they make better CPUs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► stuff but Intel shows in their roadmap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► Apple said fine you're going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► that then go make that and Intel did go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► make that and until makes amazing CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► that powered you know you know decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► worth of great intel macs or ever many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► years has been but now we're coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► that point again and so intel does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► credibility here they come to apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► say look yeah don't even think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► trying to make your arm cpus can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► compete with this you can't match us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► just you know we need to come to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► agreement here don't even try you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► gonna you're gonna spend billions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► billions of dollars and it's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► work out for you just look out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► happened to AMD we crush them don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► attempt it but we're friends let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► friends business it's like war but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► money keep your friends close enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► closer yes and your frenemies i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► know where you keep them but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► guess somewhere in the middle all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► even wrap this up think we're done all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► right so you can go to five by five TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► such hypercritical sash 94 and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► get they will get all of the notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► links that jon is put there you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► learn about sisk and risk on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► things you can follow John on Twitter he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► is siracusa s I RAC USA USA and I'm damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► Benjamin on Twitter he is also on Alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► app.net at Siracusa I'm Dan over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► and I guess I said you don't wanted me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► to talk about the other one cuz you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► not using I used tent that is 10 thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► I oh whatever I do all right so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmk4Z-c/5979">TS</a>]
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