00:00:00 ◼ ► I thought this would be a magic elephant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► my computer and it's not and I'm sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► this is hypocritical weekly talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► we love apple and related technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► and businesses nothing is so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► that it cannot be complained about by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► friend and yours host of the show John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► episode number 94 me like to say thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/22">TS</a>]
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00:00:36 ◼ ► designed by Jory Raphael using a does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► Ollie cool artwork here for the shows at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/38">TS</a>]
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00:00:53 ◼ ► them here and there but they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► distinctive very very nice there's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► a thousand icons available go check them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► out at symbolic ons com and if you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► the code dan loves icons at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► percent off your order go check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► symbolic on scom we also want to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► the bandwidth for november's brought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► mapping app for mac and iOS all month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► long brainstorming for your next project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► organizing your life planning vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► doesn't matter check out my node you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► even got integrated iCloud sharing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► have your match with you wherever you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► my node dot-com how are you doing today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/86">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► John Siracusa little warm today believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► it or not no kidding warm is meaning all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► over 40 40 degrees Fahrenheit so the 50s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► was sunny yeah wow that is very warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► unseasonable yep no forgot to close the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► door in here no it's closed alright that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► just means we won't hear your AC but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► might still hear your lawn do they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/114">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► don't I didn't launch my what my AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► don't you have an AC that runs in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► oh I do have yes I'd ever I've like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► window unit but no I don't need that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/122">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► variety show today oh I love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► yeah considering you were out Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► at last week by Marco this week you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► out of strong I was out what by Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► I'll never be out sir cuted by Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► that's like by definition impossible ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/143">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► his name's not even siracusa no yeah all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/148">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► right i'll start with some follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► cammalleri Camilleri so I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► with him with Camilleri this is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► the exact executive reshuffle that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► sort of the main topic of the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► the executive reshuffle an apple scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► forstall out Bob Mansfield elevated role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► responsibilities reshuffled and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/176">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► talking about early on how if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► fancy-pants executive like once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► reach a certain level within a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► they don't they don't fire you the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► way as they would if you were below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/189">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► whatever that invisible line is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► know they never say that you're fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► you you get to sort of go out with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► dignity intact and they give a vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► press release like oh you know he'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► leaving the company and blah blah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► know whereas if you're just below that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► line they'd aspire you and you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/205">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► and they call it a firing and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► that right so he offered some reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► for why this might be beyond the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► like once you're sort of in with the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► crowd there's a certain minimum level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/217">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► powerful rich person and called out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► the stuff he works for a law firm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► Australia so obviously their laws of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► different in Australia the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/227">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► worthwhile and what he does with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/232">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► occasionally at the executive level he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► says so he's got some direct knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► of this least in Australia and when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► says is that executive level contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► provision in gardening leave I I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► this might have been a made-up term but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► gardening leave I put the link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/252">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► show notes that allows the company to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► continue employing and executive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► prevents the employee from coming into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► the office so you're still working for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► us but don't come in seriously you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► and you still get your salary and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► and so forth but you're otherwise cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/269">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► off from the company and michael says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► you typically want to do this with fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► detailed knowledge about the plans of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► the company at least up until the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► of firing and the longer the executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► is on gardening leave the staler this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► knowledge becomes and less useful it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► to a competitor so he said gardening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► leave provisions are usually included in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► addition to employment restraints to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► seek that seek to restrict the executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► from going to work for a competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► confidentiality agreements and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► non-competes and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/295">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► they're those can be very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► enforce particularly in California which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► non-competes I don't think they're valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► at all in California ah so that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► would be one reason why I mean that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► will find out if this is the case it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► will see how long's got forestalls at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► Apple if he's on gardening leave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► means he'll be with the company for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► long time and they're basically keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► him trapped there you know as part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► provision provision of his executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► contract says you know we can fire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/322">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► basically make you not come in anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► and let you stew while still paying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► you don't have to do any work you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► can't come in and learn anything so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► by the time you do go on the free market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/330">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► maybe you don't know about what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► super secret plans are or you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► never mind they you know the laws are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► probably valid laws restriction all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► can't tell you can't go to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► company let me tell you what Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► planning the next two years because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► know like that's surely against the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► but you know how these things are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► yeah tell them but you can go to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► company and say I think we should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► do this so didn't do with Apple know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► nothing do with Apple I just think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► would be a good idea if you entered this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► market or didn't end you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► mean so gardening leave is a good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► protect against that again we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► knowledge of whether such a clause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/362">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► existence got four stalls executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► offered here is it this is a thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► guess we'll see like you said New Year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► Day you know Scott forestalls out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► street I mean it's cardboard box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► he's walking out of the building right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► getting into his Ferrari with a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/376">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► depressed but if we see that like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► not on the free market like you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► doesn't go any we don't see like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/387">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► God Forrestal now they doesn't work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/388">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► Apple he's you know hanging out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/389">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► cafe or he goes to work with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► and then mold it could be that he's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► gardening Li and the next point he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► is the reason why I company rarely at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► ever admit that an executive was fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/400">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► he says he doesn't know again that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► enough about California law to be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► but his guess is that it has nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► do with respect for the former employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► and everything to do with fear of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► sued a statement that a person was fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► beacon could be considered defamatory or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► libelous depending on what was said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► the circumstances in which was said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► you know he says this is true of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► employee but it's usually not such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► deal with jr. love our employees because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► resources to sue basically meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► they're not rich the and it costs a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► of money to sue anybody and even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► did sue it would be difficult for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► because the peon employees don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► much of reputation to be damaged those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► means both of these things kind of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► back to the yet because you're when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► you're an important person hey you rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► and be you know you can make you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► enough money to sue and you can say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► everybody knows about this now and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► a big deal and you know you can't say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► was fired and all that stuff so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► many reasons why top-level executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► what the rich are different than us as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► they say Dan why they don't get fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► practical reasons reasons that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► sense the gardening leave totally makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► sense to me especially in a state like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► California where non-competes are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► powerful at all where are they powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/470">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► I think Massachusetts has i mean i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► know like I've had plenty of non-compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► to my employee agreements and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► always like they're there that'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► you I've always heard they're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► like they're not really enforceable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► yeah California has explicit laws that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/486">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► non-compete superior right whereas every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► other state or at least every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► state that I've worked in there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/493">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► yeah but if you actually tested this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► a court of law it you know they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► wording in there that's much too strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► and it would never hold up completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► but do you really want to find out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► all one of those I don't know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► would call it but like things that exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► that are you know agreements that exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► this is a power imbalance like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► have the money to pursue this legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► even your if you're a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/514">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► the right kind of like patents where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/515">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► you are a little person trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► software startup and in doing so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► unknowingly violate bazillion patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► because it's impossible not to you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► don't have the resources to prove that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► these patents are invalid or to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► non-compete like you know if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► you know all these issues to court you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► theoretically but you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► kind of money or time and so it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► used there as a no as a cudgel to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► you to do what the more powerful richer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► corporation wants you to do I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► tested any of the non-compete ssin that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► I've signed over the years and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► want to test any of them and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► wants to test any of them but it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► than in California that's one thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► don't do worry about they're just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► of putting the threat out there saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/557">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► you know what like we don't really trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► you but we want you to work for us so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► science document that that'll make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► just for the lawyers the lawyers make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► give you this and the things they say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► crazy like some of the ones i've signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► of like you can't work in this industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► for two years I can you know what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► anything having to do with computers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► just like you know I mean really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► care p an employee goes off work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► someone else that are not gonna be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► you your you're not going to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► it's it's kind of silly and stupid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► wish they didn't exist at all but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► know if it's something the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► lawyers can get away with doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► it's not illegal to make someone sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► one then they'll do that you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► you can just refuse and see if the will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► you still hire me if I refuse depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► on the company maybe they'll star you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► maybe they won't you know I'm gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► standing on firm ground do that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► you know you just make your choice like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► is it important enough for me to not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► this job that you know please that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► that's a you know that's a very likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► outcome depending on the company then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► just you know make your stand and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► another criteria you have to use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► finding employment but if you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► executive I like I think I would sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► the thing with the gardening leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► because that's like hey you pay me my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► humongous salary and I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► come into work it's like paid vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► for rich people because you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► needs paid vacation it's rich people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► right they needs more than more than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/639">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► do thanks to Michael for Australia for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/643">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► gardening leave which I had never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► before I wonder if Scott will do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► gardening the next bit from Jay Andrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► yang all one word I don't think I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► found his real name from but I bet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► jay and rehang from twitter about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► imac and i cant couldn't remember if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► this in any of the past shows I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► through the notes and I didn't see it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► forgive me if this is double follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► but you might you maybe you'll remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► we talked about the imac and i said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► oh they're just using laptop parts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► slapping on the back that I correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► myself about that already I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► I don't think you'd you did make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► comment about it but what is there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► correct that's true I'll do it quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► again like they use desktop CPUs in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► imax they're not laptop CPUs they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► tend to use mobile GPUs but that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► been true and not true various points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► but the point is it's not Mac Pro stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► back there it's not Zeon's it's not Ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► with ECC it's not yeah this was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► context of cannon and imac replace a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► pro for some people and certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► GPUs have not been like gigantic double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► with full-length pci you know those type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► top-of-the-line GPUs so my points about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► it Stan but I incorrectly said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► was completely laptop parts back there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► it's you know CP using storage usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► sometimes the optical drives as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► because their skin here are laptop parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► but when do you think the distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► between laptop parts and desktop parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► not talking just CPUs but when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► that distinction will be blurred away so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► we won't have to talk about it anymore I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► don't know if ever because like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/740">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► if so anything anybody needs can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► be you know that tops are all anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► needs so why would anyone make a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► thing well if you have a bigger power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/752">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► budget you and and more physical space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► you can make a more capable thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► that will always be true no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► the technology advances and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► think we're anywhere near the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► where a more capable more powerful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► is not incrementally more useful than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► less powerful thing right so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► whether the terms we use to describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► to the same that the distinction between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► know something you can fit in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► pocket something you can carry one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► something you can carry two hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► something that's plugged into the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► those distinctions will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► exist or something that is sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► plugged in you know that continuum will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► continue to exist so I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► gone away okay next bit is from jared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► williams who gives us it gave us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► definitive link on the available disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► space in the microsoft surface this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/795">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► from microsoft com itself he sent it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► bye bye Twitter and then that same day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► saw it linked around all over the web so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/803">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► this is kind of old news but i just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► it in the show notes for completeness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► phrasing is so weird and this how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► hard disk space do you have available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► your surface hard disk space like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► just the term they use I can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/816">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► understand because I try to explain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► my parents about you know I get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► like a yeah then you got a 32 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► ipod touch what is that 32 gigabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/825">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► understand I have to say that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► your hard drive like to distinguish it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► explain this I think I've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► it before my mother in particular was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► obsessed with the idea that by deleting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► applications it would allow like she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► an old ipod touch and modern games were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► like crashing on launched on it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► probably being killed by the low memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► killer because it just wasn't enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► memory to support these things for maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► they're just buggy or whatever I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► the problem is you don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► memory and she would say oh I can fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► that by deleting some applications i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/855">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► don't use never mind the fact that half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► of the you know 32 gigs were free anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and i tried to emphasize know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► deleting things from your quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► hard drive on your ipod touch is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► going to give you more ram like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► two separate things was there for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► age-old confusion going back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► beginning of time yeah and like at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► we before we have like well one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► size of you know one is like a big metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► box with a spinning thing and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► one is chips that don't move right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► now they're all chips though they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► distinctions because you're so microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/888">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► refers to the store the internal flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► storage of and now we use flash to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► like well flash is different than ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► because you know when you turn the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► off all your data doesn't leave flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/897">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► but does Leibrandt you know all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► increasingly nuanced distinction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► microsoft says forget it we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► calling it a hard disk hard disk space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► this it's it's hard i guess there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► disk okay so notice page says the 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► gigabyte version has 16 gigabytes free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► hard disk space and the 64 gig version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► has forty five gigabytes free and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► dozen more detailed breakdown so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► link is in the show notes right from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► horse's mouth see where Microsoft has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► say about the hard disk on your surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► and the other point that lots of surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► fans and other attentive people brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/927">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► up is yeah the surface OS and install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► software might take up a lot of room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/935">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► more room than the equivalent if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► is an equivalent thing on the iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► iOS devices do but the surface has an SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► card slot so if you're like oh I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► the 16 gigabyte surface well go buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/947">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► yourself a 64 gigabyte SD card for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► you know 50 bucks or whatever they cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/951">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► and you know if you just given yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► more storage than any iOS device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► you can buy at any price can ever have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► alright it has a micro SDXC card slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/958">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► this is getting to be kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► alphabet soup of resolutions it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► vga you mean you might notice these from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► your pc days what's a lot what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► most obscure letter combination for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► resolutions that you know i'll stop your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► head i don't know any of them anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► it's wqx you BGA yeah like they just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/976">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► great anyway so SDXC is not getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► bad but I had to look up what I meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► secure digital extended capacity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► exes or extended and those cards go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► to two terabytes in size loyal you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► buy two terrified SD card and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► think the surface would support it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► anyway and the sdhc which is the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► alphabet super standard before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► stopped at 32 gigs so yes you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► 64 gig SD card and go nuts that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► the microsoft way give you an SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► slot and that you know if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► about that that would be nice to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► an ipad like everyone would get a 16 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► ipad and by the SD card but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► Apple way because you know the Apple way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► is don't provide a device where a naive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► user can while using the thing yank out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► the SD card and not understand what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► does machine like what happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► do that the half your apps go right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► gets put on the SD card vs anywhere is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► are you manually manage storage does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► use it like a fusion drive an iOS like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► it's yeah probably you can imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► that feature not coming to iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► constraints and really up well and I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► Microsoft should be pushing that harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► but I don't know how Microsoft Surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► OS manages space either so you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► want to say oh you can manually manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► where your stuff is by copying it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► criticism as Apple received initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► you know things that essentially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► iOS that essentially changed the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► to say yes you have files but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► don't worry about where these files are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► you know I think in a way looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► these issues with the surface kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► say well this maybe is why well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► Microsoft obviously not taking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► right but that makes like in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► respects that it makes it gives it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► the SD card he gives the user of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► surface more control but is thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► said I want this over here and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► that over there and these are on this SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► card and that's not all right on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► other hand Apple Apple is the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► with the flexibility to later on say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► know we know holographic cube supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► you plug in a holographic cube in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► transparently manage what stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► stored on the holographic cube and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► can we do that because you never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► control over where stuff was anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► right we've always managed it right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► we can make sure that like entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► applications on all their data are over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► holographic cube that you know certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► apps disappear in their entirety you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► not left with like half of a nap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► missing files and stuff you know never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► allowing direct access to the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► gives you the most future flexibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► how to manage storage whereas allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► access to manage files like Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► does gives you the most current day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► practical flexibility for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► know how to manage that stuff I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► apple is in the right here but Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► strategies always been a contrast Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► strategy you know that entire product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► and with their OS so it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► appropriate for them some fusion drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► stuff I asked some questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► fusion driving people answered on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► Twitter this is it should practice his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► last name Hinrich one headin I'm killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► that one I'm sorry I probably killed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► pronunciation because it's like German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► anyway I asked if you could boot from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► fusion drive you know some people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► the fusion drives that attached to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► other random acts so he's like you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► a fusion drive for his mac pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► Buddha promo it works fine and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► read and write the fusion partitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► issue committal is HC ABI TT le says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► that homebrew fusion drives do support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► installation of OS 10 he provided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► to Apple fusion drive on late 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► macbook pro someone's little diary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► them taking their macbook pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► they've got an SSD and a hard drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► there and get a fusion drive and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► boots just fine so this you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► appears to be at all these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► configurations and I would not recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► this but for people who want to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► a try it seems you know everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► having success whatever thing they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► think up that they think might work it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► working for them Alexander Torres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► tweeted something in Spanish that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► tried to translate with google translate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► but it doesn't matter because the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► he tweeted as a picture of a dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► with sin English it shows what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► if you have a fusion drive and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► looking at it connected to a mac that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► running something earlier than OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► 10.8 point2 and the dialog box is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► good so we're talking about before of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► how Apple handled the transitioned hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► and by the way I had since looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► some of that stuff either i looked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► connected an h press + drive to a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► that didn't understand that volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► format that you know that with an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► that existed before hfs+ it would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► like an h FS volume and it had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► readme file like it was it wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► the readme file explained what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► situation was so it the hrs + drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► masts itself as an h of a tiny HFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► volume with a single readme file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► opened liked each text or whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► current version of the apples text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► editor was so that was those cute anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► the dialog box for fusion drive says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► this is in the Charlotte's to the disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► use the disk instead of this disk maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► this agree translation the disk uses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► format that your current version of OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► 10 does not support to use this disk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► newer version of OS 10 is required or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► all your files are still on the disk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► it's a pretty good error message like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► it doesn't just totally unrecognized it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► and say you want to initialize it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► recognizes it must have been enough even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► back in whatever version this is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► this isn't totally alien but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► work with this version maybe they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► some version information of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► whatever so it says you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► broken you just need a newer version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► OS 10 and this is an older version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► saying that so that's likely forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► compatibility thing that I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► talk about before where old software can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► make intelligent observations about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► things that didn't even exist when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► some metadata or whatever or just clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► engineering and the reassuring thing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► your files are still on the disk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► your stuffs not gone you just can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► it from here oh that's pretty good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► on that message Lee hutchinson and ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► has been doing good job of breaking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► stuff down yeah yeah learning more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► fusion drive he's got this big article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► achieving fusion with the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► training doc ours tears open apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► fusion drive so you got like the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► store service manuals for like how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► stuff when people bring in their max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► that have fusion drive how does he get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► have someone get that stuff leaks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► it that's how it works okay someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► who's an apple store employee your nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► and apple store employee you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► things get leaked I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► groundbreaking it you know if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► to see what their service guys look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► or what their instructions are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► tells you it's very you know it here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► how you work with someone who brings in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► a fusion drive it's actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► complicated and like if you just gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► someone those instructions who didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► know what they were doing you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► they wouldn't follow them right or would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► be confused by a certain point like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► know seeing how people in these stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► are expected to follow these fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► complicated instructions and not screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► them up that's not easy to do I course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► we all expect them to not screw up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► brought out of the apple store and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► destroyed everything but yeah anyway uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► you can take a look at that articles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► the show notes there's another one from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► Tom who all lowercase whose name I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► up trying to find this is a BYOD fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► there's a couple of things with BYOD I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► assuming so bring your own disk he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► an article about his experience of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► fusion and finally there's someone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► something from tripod tech tryb ODT ACH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► has a video on youtube of do-it-yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► fusion drive so basically if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► interested in fusion drive and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► 10 82 but you don't have one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► new max there are many many resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► potentially destroy all your data but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► also have a lot of fun so I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► tried any of these things I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► can't to watch other people stuff than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► you know I don't have a spare SSD to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► to the mix or whatever but like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► I'm looking forward to using fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► drive and whatever our next new mac i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► buying 2013 but for now it's not for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► but if you want to tried many resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► to our first sponsor you know to pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► follow up first sponsor squarespace com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► everything you need to make an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► website fully hosted completely managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► you make any kind of website we use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► for like our news blogs things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► but you can make full-fledged websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► portfolios image galleries and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► cool is that you can decide within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► Squarespace what you want to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► these sub pages you can give them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► URLs that you want to give them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► have a blog you can have a gallery you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1498">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► can have all of this stuff and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► super easy to create it there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► drag-and-drop interface it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► super easy and I was messing around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► some of the advanced settings in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► because they're always improving stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► they're always changing things behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► scenes they don't always I mean I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► you could read there like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► developer notes and things like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► I notice the other day that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► now and I don't know how long they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► had it maybe they've had it for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► but I just saw it they have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► default preference it says when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► create a new post when you start typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► something new do you want to use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► cool WYSIWYG editor well it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► cool but you know what me no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► want to use that I want to default to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► preference all of these little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► they've thought about all of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► they have built in you know if you view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► the source on a site it's clean all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► templates that they have are responsive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► so that you can look at it on an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► device and you see a really nice version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► of the site not one of those garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► mobile versions of sites you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► everything's integrated depending on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► long you sign up for if you I mean first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► of all this and it's not free you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► gonna spend ten bucks a month you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► their unlimited plan you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► spend 20 bucks a month you sign up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► year you get twenty percent off you sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► up for two years you get twenty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► percent off and neither of those you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► get a free domain name registration with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► it or you just use your own no credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► squarespace com / 5 by 5 that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► best way to support the show to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► started with squarespace and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► stuff squarespace.com / 5 by 5 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► you're there use the code dan sent me 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► because it's the eleventh month dan sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► me 11 we get ten percent off whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► you sign up for so go check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► getting direct messages on Twitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► people need to tell me whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► things that direct messaging me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► listening to can be spoken about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► show and like it would like of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► knowledge i can just can't talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► so thanks for sending me live feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► please tell me whether i can convey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► lied feedback to the listeners otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► i won't maybe they could use a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► like a capital y or capital n to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► that determination always do it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► preface that's my tip for when providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► information to somebody either that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► do or don't want them to make public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► start start with start with the what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► about to tell you should or shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► blah blah blah blah and then tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► don't do the reverse cuz then they read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► it and then quickly you know especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► when you're talking to somebody who's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► the air live what if i just read it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► you know in my excitement right anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► topics today i don't know how many will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► get to depends on how long they go i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► have a lot of them and the notes get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► longer as the topics go on but who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► so we'll just maybe maybe we'll cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► off after a couple of topics go by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► it decide that that's it because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► had a lot of long shows lately I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► know what this one's going to people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► so the first thing I want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► is usually the third rail for tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► podcast is to talk about anything having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► related to politics i'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► actually talk about politics i gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► talk a little bit about tech just a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► little bit ah specifically about voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► technology i assume you voted in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► presidential election everybody's should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► exercise the right to vote and whether i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► voted and how i voted is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► she'll be a mystery whether you voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► whether i voted and how i voted shall i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► can ask us how you do not even see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► do not discuss politics i did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► religion i will talk about buddhism as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► philosophy with Merlin man on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► to work show and those are the only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► rules i have you can say shit which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► will not say if i voted i will not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► how i voted on that say where I voted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► look like it's a Maya I do not like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► this is that this is the there are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► two rules that I have and those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► two now you have so many more than two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► wrong no not not when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► alright well so what I want to ask about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► let's say you can draw on your past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► experience if you've ever heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► implies that I've ever voted oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that's too much so anyway like voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► technology like how the mechanics of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► people pick you know who this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► the way it works for those who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► never voted in the United States you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► you walk into a booth there's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► large lever or lever and you you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► take a small mallet and you tap the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► of a little stick to punch out a card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► through this block of a hole through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► block of wood and then you pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► lever and it the card falls straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► down into a big you know like open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► opening in the floor there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► different things that people use to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► and the thing you're talking about were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► you going with a booth and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► lever and stuff I never actually used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► one of those but I remember seeing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► when I was a kid like in my elementary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► school and they would be better if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► have ever voted I would have definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► used one of those as well and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► however I will say that I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► having no knowledge of the voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► process because I cannot say if I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► ever voted or not I can say that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► never used a computer system to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► yeah so another common system that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► standardized testing things you take in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► school where there's like little bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► and you fill them out scantron with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► pencil or pen yet I can't drop optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► scanning a bunch of empty circles and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► you film one of them with darkness then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► you set it through a machine it finds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► the one little circle that is filled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► reflective than the ones that weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► because the paper is white and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► how it registers your votes that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► I had this year I did vote and they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► you I explained on Twitter that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► gave us little pins like sharpie markers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► to fill it in we like to fill in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► bubbles and then it bled through to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► other side like you'd fill in the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► thing not like I'm not going crazy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► trying to make it a darkest serpent just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► you know minimal filling in of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► circle so that you know and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► bleeds through the other side I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► think it's an issue because the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► side where I bled through is not an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► that would be scanned like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► that's not where the answers were on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► other side but that's that's just sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► there were some videos but of touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► screen voting machines where someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► would tap one choice and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► choice would get selected of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► partisan political people are like aha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► is sabotaging the machines but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► problem worked in both directions there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► you know tried to vote for at Canaday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and B was selected and then other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► touchscreen voting machines tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► vote from Canada B and a was selected so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► that's not that's obviously it's either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► the worst kind of political hacking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► it's just you know bugs in the system of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► course we had the butterfly ballot swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► it was hard to even in Florida from 2000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► it was hard to even tell who you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► voting for I just bad you I just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► know there's lots of articles around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► 2000 about the user interface of voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► and how like hanging chads it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► yeah that the hanging chads are punching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► out paper like it should you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► qualities of a good voting system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► technologically speaking are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► clear like the person voting has to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► shouldn't have to puzzle over this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► like it shouldn't be like when most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► people figured it out but something will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► be confuse like there it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► connectors like it's your job to design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► connectors are certain criteria for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► if it's your job to design voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► technology there it mean I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► it would be is rocket science for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► come up with criteria I should know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► I'm voting for it should be clear who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► I'm voting for it should be easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► count an automated mannered you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► these other qualities about it and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► the voting technology that we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► using and it changes because like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► these things are controlled I guess by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► the states or the counties or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► there's no like big federally mandated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► this is how we voted in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► States well everyone's using different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► machines you know filling in bubbles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► things pulling levers punching things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► out using various touchscreen electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► voting devices and stuff and over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► years there have been stories and a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► press about these electronic voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► machines and how incredibly terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► they are like you know they they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► government contracts because of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► connections with the government but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► machines themselves are terrible they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► not secure their buggy they're not easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► to understand like most people say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► you know those electronico machines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► terrible we should stick to the tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and true technologies like the lever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► the pencil things I filling in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► bubbles because those are in and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► electronic things are worse in almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► all possible ways in the old ones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► that doesn't mean that better voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► technology is impossible and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► continue to be fresh grated every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► time there's an election at the dismal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► state of the technology used for voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► mostly because this is like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► problem that we know we meaning like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► humanity humanity knows how to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► technology to make something fulfills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► all the criteria that a rational person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► would lay out for voting user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► is still a little bit hard because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► that's not it's more a little bit of art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► more than science in there but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► testable like find out if this ballot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► clear to everyone who's using it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► just make it until it's like super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► extremely clear so the technologies I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► talking about it there's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► Wikipedia entry on like this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► concept not even to specific things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► page i linked is end-to-end auditable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► voting systems which it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► racketeering ZFS but this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► property that you can this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► you can do with electronic voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► systems that you can't do or can't do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► easily with a paper type system so their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► definition is and and auditable voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► stringent integrity properties integrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► properties and strong tamper resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► and they often employ cryptographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► methods to craft receipts that allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► voters to verify that their votes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► not modified without revealing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► candidates they voted for so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► basically I don't get into the Mathmos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► because I don't understand it myself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► cryptography where with with a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► like this every aspect of it can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► should be completely open completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► open source the implementation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► completely opened everything about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► like everybody come look at it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► no secret black box where you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► behind you can see how this thing works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► anybody can make a machine that worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► in this way uh and we can mathematically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► proved you can mathematically prove to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► yourself that your vote was counted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► it wasn't changed and no one else can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► tell who you voted right so like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► gives you all the benefits of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► anonymous voting and stuff like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► mathematically secure system if anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► tampers with it you'll know and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► citizen if they have any doubt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► their vote was not counted or was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► changed and correctly can verify to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► verification couldn't be faked without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► you know access to the ability to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► humongous prime factors beyond our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► current technologically like any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► cryptographic system will have to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► pace with technology because it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► get like quantum computers and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► sudden are our secure voting system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► insecure because in theory you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► could use their NSA supercomputers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► fake your authentication make everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► think their votes counter and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► they didn't write you have to keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► technology to do this now to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► voting system that does not stink that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► is way better than all the paper systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► and that is verifiable in ways that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► matching and also we we know have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► technology to make user interfaces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► don't confuse people like this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► it's not like we're asking them to uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► fill out a you know it parts list for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► 747 you're just voting for you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► guy or that guy or that guy this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► that is not or gal it's not a it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► as far as you I problems go this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► seem like rocket science to me not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► I'm saying you couldn't have a great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► you know we and in this country we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► people who understand this technology we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► have we even have government agencies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► understand cryptography understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► everything about obviously you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► themselves for variety of reasons but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► and yet maybe you don't want the federal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► government forcing you to do it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► technology exists out there and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► don't see it anywhere all you see are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► increasingly crappy electronic voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► machines that make things worse and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► old systems that are bad in their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► ways and the you know so I'm frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► by this mostly because it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► whatever our system of government is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► here whatever you want to call it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► makes it really really hard to get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► the things we have to the things we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► we should be able to have like what why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► is it that we can't get you know change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► the voting machines is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► they're not federally controlled would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► it be worse if they were federally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► controlled and be like mini tell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► we've got this boo be stuck with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► know the lever machines forever I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► picking on mini tell sorry France people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► yeah I don't know what the solution is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► know is that it is insane to me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► went on election day and filled out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► scantron thing with a pen and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► may or may not have done something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► similar no way to know what I did no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► waiting yeah so anyway that the levant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► disappointing to me it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► you know it it's not like sound like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► the other areas where we all knew we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► electronically and people were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► dragging their feet but at least that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► solved itself voting stuff it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► she's never you know it's moving so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► slowly every every state is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► every place you go is different what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► they all want to do is different the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► that they tabulate the results is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► different the way they count the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► is different the way the report the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► results is different and it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► it's complicated you can even say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► a strength being crazy the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► technological biodiversity if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► to call it that of all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► things because it makes more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► for someone to systematically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► change the vote on a wide scale if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► had sort of a technological monoculture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► verifiable voting system if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► broke that and they've just broken the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► bank I'm not even saying that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► to have some centralized thing it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► that you would expect at least some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► the individual places there that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► changing their voting system to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► electronic form would do it right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► impossible to find the people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► how to do this for you and get like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► seems like you know the people who get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► these government contracts for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► electronic voting machines they do bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► work the electronic voting machines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► bad they're bad in obvious ways than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► anyone remotely skilled on the art can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► look at that and say no you're an idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► this is wrong I don't even understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► why you're doing this and that's why evo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► ting like that phrase e-voting has such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► a bad rap because year after year when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► anybody with a clue looks any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► machines are like this thing is a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► it is the most incredibly hackable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► insecure doesn't give us any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► benefits that we could be getting under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► what you guys are doing but oh i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► you got the government contract to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► this since you know corruption or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► incompetent serve some combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► them it's just depressing this is yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► another opportunity by the way for nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► to make the world better again not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► partisan issue nerds if you are a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► nerd out there could i listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► show grow up and make better voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► something that you do with your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► this seems like a way that nerds can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► help our country it you know is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► partisan at all it's not about any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► technology to do good voting let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► do not say everyone has to vote from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► their cell phones but like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► you if you picture the future like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► you're a kid like on the year 2000 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► communicators like on Star Trek there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► no reason we couldn't all vote from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► here we have a technology to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► we're just so far from that in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► you know actually getting that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► implemented you know in a way I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► think about this I mean let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► about something do you ever do you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► do online banking you trust that enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► you're a credit union guy aren't you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► am a crazy I knew it so here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► some of these banks have these apps out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► there where you can deposit a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► without taking the check to the bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► have you seen this you take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► it now right and this is so this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► this typically works you take your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► take your check you put it down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► desk I'm assuming you still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► endorse the back I did I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► you take a photo of the front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► check with all within the app photo of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► the back of the check and then you enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► in the amount and then this this goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► away and then usually a number of hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► could be 12 could be 24 later it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► up on your on your online statement you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► know you can log in and see that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► there and the deposit went through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► then I guess you're supposed to dispose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► of the checks after 14 days or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► if you're aware of this yep you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► you can't admit to whether you ever have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► or have not used it I which I respect I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► don't think we've ever used this this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► me my guess is that a human being is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► looking at these photos right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► know about that like that can't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► just read like this there's OCR Bowl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► routing stuff on checks right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► definitely is I'm just wondering if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► foe if the photograph is like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► imagine there has to be human at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► stage because what if the photograph you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► take was in bad lighting I intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► took one of them one of the photos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► less-than-ideal lighting to see if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► would throw it back or complain about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► or if I would get an email or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► nothing it went through and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► correct I bet there's people looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► them but like that that all doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► strike you as a talk about skeuomorphism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► I guess it's not quite the same things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► like we're gonna send you a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► paper that says that you were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► get money and if you show this piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► paper to your bank then they'll take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► money from my bank account and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► into yours and so and so forth and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► you take a picture of this piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► paper that we sent in the mail and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► right the wire we have wires connect me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► everybody converges in a direct deposit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► is how I do most of my things cuz like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► why you know I I like that that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► more like the future than taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► picture of your check but in the end if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► technology look you would be similarly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► depressed about what are the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► security and checks and balances how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► many things are in there they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► like well it's just tradition in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► it's been done in like rules of decorum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► and manners we're holding our financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► system no that's exactly that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► it and when you think of the two sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► oldest systems in in the world in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► at least you know when it come to you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► think of like voting and banking would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► be in that list of things that involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► paper and Trust and it's the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► about voting is it really there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► much trust that's involved in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► process which is something that is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► our right and arguably responsibility on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► the one hand and then banking which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► frightening and and there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► trust involved that I mean this is think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► about this I was visiting South Korea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► this is gosh I don't know eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► ago 10 years ago something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► we were we were checking our luggage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► they at the time they didn't have it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► were just walking with earlier a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► walked up and he looked at our tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► and he said okay and he took that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► took the luggage I'm like wait like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► don't get a receipt for this there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► barcode is there something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► nothing and I and he's like no no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► fine and he walked away with all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► luggage and our handler over there who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► was a retired colonel from the South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► Korean army very distinguished position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► I very fluent in English cases no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► it's fine i'm like like i did a guy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► appreciate that thank you I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► want some kind of receipt fine he's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► just sort of laughed because this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► the guy who took our luggage you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► this is a young guy the white gloves on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► the it would be unthinkable for him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► not get that luggage to us wherever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► was going yeah it would be dishonorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► he might have to commit suicide if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► happened it was like it was it was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► that I was even asking to these guys it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► think about it and here in the US you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► got guys chucking iPads around in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► back of walmart you see that video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► it's so it's like it's so different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► yet there's still so much trusted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► them that was not an issue of trust that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► was an issue of honor and like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► question that but here it's like please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► count my vote please let me make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► deposit that's legit and that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► really add an extra zero to the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► this thing on the check you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► I'm saying like it's it feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► different here and you're in that Korean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► airport no one said you care and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► one's going to take that here right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► was just weird no one's gonna get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► one I know that's right uh yeah so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► thing about that is that if he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► handed you a piece of paper that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► have made you feel better if yes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► weird way like yeah it makes it legit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► like the Jersey that piece of paper you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► can wave that in hell you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► papers not gonna make them come back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► but I have a piece of paper right great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► Abby's a bit well you do you admit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► feel a little bit better if you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► something that's what I'm weird about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► those checks and that's what's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► about the voting they don't give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► receipt when you vote but the piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► paper is the same that piece of paper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► what you needed to make you feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► you were in a trusting scenario that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► you're familiar with right and the lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► of the piece of paper like it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► difference in what mate you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► you're used to in what makes you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► better so they said oh I don't need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► piece of paper to feel safe you say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► I need the piece of paper she'll say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► right both with without that piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► paper in fact I've taken your bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► they're gone they're still gone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► it's just a question of what you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► then that's the thing with a voting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► like you know the general sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► resistance to change and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► Luddite ISM of like technology scares me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► and I don't trust it and like people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► much more comfortable with like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► person corruption like actual theft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► actual fraud and you know election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► workers doing bad things then oh no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► scary computer hackers are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► change all our votes so Mickey Mouse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► going to be president right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► systemic kind of stuff that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► once things are connected with computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► like a one individual is not empowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► to you know change hundreds of thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► and millions and billions of votes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► I mean even if like the guy who has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► power to change every vote in california [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► he can't change those in texas as easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► because they're not connected and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► but whereas one computer hacker if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► or if it's you know the danger of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► computers is like I don't trust that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► like I'd rather have the little piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► paper even though I know it's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► secure than the computer things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► I don't understand computers I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► know what hacking is I don't know how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► happens I just know that it does once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► got my credit card stolen online and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► never trusted electronic voting and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► networking does empower an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► definitely true but it also that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► technology also empowers us to have way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► more security than we ever had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► right like you know this cryptographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► systems with you know public algorithms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► and public keys like this still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► private key somewhere and what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► someone gets that and you know it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► don't know that the reasons this is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► so many different levels on a gut level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► it's on like you know not able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► our acts together level but i just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► even he went in the realm of like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► trying to make a cryptographically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► secure voting system for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► country just the amount of level doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► competent job of equaling or bettering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► scantron we're not we're not able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► that as a society it said and the check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► thing that I think banking will move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► faster than voting I God effing Utley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► because you know easily your check is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► it's something like they did direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► deposit they want to they want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► all more automatable and have less human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► interaction and they also actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► want more security and they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► they're empowered to change things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► within their bank more than it seems we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► are all empowered to change our various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► voting systems yeah change happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► reconvene when were 80 years old to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► if Odin technologies improved at all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► know if we're still playing out freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► scantron hover com simplified domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► management you probably registered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► domain with the company just wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► sell you stuff you're not interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► to not so with hover John Syracuse I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► know you registered domain sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► can transfer your domains to hover using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► their transfer valet services is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► cool speaking of human beings behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► scenes that's that's what goes on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► when you use their transfer service this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► valet service it's free it doesn't cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► anything but the price you're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► paying for the domain when you transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► will oversee the process which can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► very weird process it's not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► with different registrar's it involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► as weird i can email and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► they'll handle the whole thing for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► they'll make it super simple for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► use it's the best thing ever and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► their service i love the folks behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► the scenes here they get a toll-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► number you can just call them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► can do it all talk to a person if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► don't want to use the computer or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► can use a computer for everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► amazing what these computers can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► type the domain that you want in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► little search box it's available click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► plus you're done pay for it and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► whatever if they don't find it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► enter in that they will suggest a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► bunch of different alternatives for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► they'll show you other domains that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► similar and available you can even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► due the auction stuff through there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► it's super simple elegant clean check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► them out hover com / dan sent me you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► ten percent off you can use that code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► dan sent me for renewals you can use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► for their email hosting you can use if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► you're already customer hover com sludge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► dan sent me check it out did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► that someone tried to paste an SVG into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► the chatroom and it's gone nuts Duan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► Duan Daniel Duan he's a young man here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► in town I is what I assume happened this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► happens to me a lot to within modern OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► 10 and most desktop operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► application and you just like copy ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► yes like you see it happen regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► what actually happens then like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► is like oh I've copied this thing and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► you were looking at it and it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► like it was text right you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► just copied that text but you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► surprised to find that when you paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► that into an a text application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► understands different typefaces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► colors that it's reproduced exactly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► it was when you copied it so like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► copy something web page and paste into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► text edit and on the web page it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► like pink Comic Sans it'll be pink Comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► Sans you know 24 point in the thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► it didn't just copy the text it copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► all the styling information as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► the same goes for images where a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► web browsers when you copy you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► you're copying an image or even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► copying the URL of an image or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► like that if you paste it into a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► editor you get the URL but if you paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► into an application that claims to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► understand for example SVG it will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► oh this recipient of the pasteboard data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► says that understands SVG so i will give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► the SVG incarnation of this thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► copied and I don't know if that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► actually happened but it it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► frequently to me when I copy like a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► from an application I just want the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► URL but I try to paste it and like beeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► at me so though I don't understand links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► like because it copied it is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► bookmark link or something and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► application says i can receive you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► that type of format but really can't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► clipboard depending on what operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► system you want to take the terminology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► from is usually sort of a multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► multiple incarnations of a piece of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► and which one you end up getting depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► on what the recipient of that paste said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► it was going to accept so maybe Duan can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► fill us in on what what the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► malfunction was there but he said he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► dead atang an SVG file yeah I maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► didn't know he had that on the clipboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► and he thought he had something else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► it was just plain text so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► and Swilley amez now we're gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► few weeks of follow-up on your mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► how right he is yeah yes I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► wasn't deliberate him we all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► mistakes I've I've done it many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► pasted the wrong thing in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► place all right one small one and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► guess will they find a larger topic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► today will do and yeah maybe that won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► last that long but I have a humongous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► not humongous it's two equally large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► topics and I don't think they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► going to fit in this show so i'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► the second one but first a small topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► small topic is google voice search have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► you tried that out i have tried it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► side-by-side comparison between google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► voice search and built in serie and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► in my own experiments with it it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► seem to mirror those expressed in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► video that the guy took running each on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► the iphone five it is faster and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► it's i think it's better i put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► show notes a link to oh god I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► have to trim the show notes who'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► someone tailing trimming off that second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► topic have a million show notes on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► this is a feature request that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► should put into the CMS I'd like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► able to just move all those aunts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► next show I know I can I mean I can do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► can do that for you and like one line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► but i would have to you would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► tell me they do never directly update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► the database in production have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► learned nothing as a web developer I oei [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► back the thing up nightly so big deal oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► yeah rollback yeah the worst ones where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► you don't notice you did you know update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► without a where clause and there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► executed fine and then six weeks later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► you go was titled every story the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► hmm all right uh anyway this link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► show notes is a Gruber's take on this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► typical tourist form he's got a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► I think it's the same movie the you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► it was a gizmodo has a side by side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► thing it is gizmodo yes yeah and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► links to it and his you know one line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► commentary on it is how fast should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► Serie B this fast right anybody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► an iOS device with the microphone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► hasn't tried the google voice search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► thing it's just it's just the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► search app like it's not i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► it's a separate app right it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► google search app did a little blue g [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► and ask where it's free application when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► i heard everyone raving about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► before I'd even seen the videos i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► downloaded onto my cruddy ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► previous generation not particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► fast it does have a microphone on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► i tried it out and you know i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► shocked at how how much faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► better it feels then Syriana iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► iphone 4s like my wife's iphone for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► yeah there's a couple of aspects of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► right the first aspect is an area where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► Apple where Apple should be a contender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► and that is the area of make it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► fast it doesn't necessarily have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► fast but make it feel fast and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► reason google voice search feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► well i'm not fast but more responsive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► because when you start talking stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► happens on the screen stuff happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► immediately that and it shows it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► what you're saying it shows that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► understanding you and it's that instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► visual feedback and you know Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► been you know you got to give a Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► credit they get this concept if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► think about gmail you you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► hit Send in gmail it's not sent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► fast you know that anyone who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► about computers knows it's not sent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► fast but it instantaneously look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► it's been sent and what does that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► it's been sent good you're not sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► there waiting with a little spinner it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► sent then of course it's going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► Gmail's massive queue and it may take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► minute before it actually sends but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► that instantaneous visual response and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► this is this is the thing that strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► you if you just watch this video and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► need to install the app you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► instantaneous feedback that something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► happening where's was serious just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► little swirling around microphone thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► you're like I wonder if it even heard me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► yeah there's different levels of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► one is something happens like you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► want to see something happens because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► then you especially novice computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► just like did I do it is it is it doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► something for me like you want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► something's happening so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► first level and Siri mostly does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► like once you start talking something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► happens on the screen to let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► something is actually happening here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► right and the second level is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► is happening that exactly reflects what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► it is that you're doing so it like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► kind of like in fantastical when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► type in something you know and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► parsing your natural language of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► date and you can see it gives you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► little visual representation here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► figured out that I think you said a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► month and here I think you're saying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► day up you type something different now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► i misinterpreting it this way or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► quicksilver my my favorite launcher as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► I'm typing the first few letters I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► looking at the icons changing it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► nope not that one not that one that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► as soon as i typed enough for a tia to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► the icon i want my pinky it's returning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► them off right it's real-time visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► understanding what you're doing so not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► only are you sure that it isn't frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► you are sure as you're talking that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► getting things right or if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► getting things right you know you see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► what way it's failing right part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► reason I think Apple currently doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► do this in serious because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► have on phone recognition like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► packing everything up sending streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► it out to the server and the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► figuring out and sending your response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► like it's offloading the processing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► we said when seriouser was around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► you know it seems like there's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► horsepower on these handheld devices to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► do you know maybe not as fancy kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► recognition but a new some recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► here on the phone and Android does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► on phone recognition but the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► thing is I have no idea of google voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► is actually doing on phone recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► and why because google has the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► side chops to make it so that for all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► know it's sending the data as I speak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► they're incredibly responsive fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► servers it's giving me a response in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► like 50 milliseconds or some insane low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► leg you know amount of time and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► bouncing it back that is you know to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► things that one apples the decision not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► to do on phone recognition Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► decision to do so at least on Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► and to the uh you know Google's ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► to make a server-side architecture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► available reliable high performance than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► anything apples have been able to field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► so Cirie just takes longer to do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► and feels it feels even slower than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► really is because if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► side-by-side videos series sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► gives better results than the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► thing because Google just doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► the same infrastructure and doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► a nice appearance for all their stuff a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► lot of the Google stuff ends up doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► google search and you end up getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► mobile google images search which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► sometimes it's pretty good but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► syrian more likely to have custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► tailored responses and thought like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► but the the responsiveness and how fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► it feels is just you know is it's night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► and day it really is and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► the thing that you can watch the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► but when you're sitting there trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► do this yourself and you just want an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► answer I just give me an answer don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► and this is this is something else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► experience people said well isn't serum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► more elegant well no the faster answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► is more elegant for me like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► give me the answer I'm looking for right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► now the most killer one in that video I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► figure were the exact things it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► how many pints in a quart or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► and you want the answer to that now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► series like looking it up for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► alright alright here's your a no stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► talking seems like you're trying without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► without from spaceballs you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► give me the friggin ants and Google was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► like that was not only did it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► faster it was faster like it gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► up here is your answer it's not a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► question right Google Google's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► dislike Watson and jeopardy trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► figure out this it's you know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► pints in a quart if we can for what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► said they were this is the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► leveraging his it's a google calculator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► thing this is something that people may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► not know about I'm always amazed when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► people don't know about this but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► years and years and years now if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► type a unit conversion question or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► anything similar into a Google search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► box it will do a search yes but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► also just give you the answer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► yeah and that's that's the coolest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► and especially for little things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► you know even even us geeks forget like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► bid conversion type things all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Shin that you want to do from currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► to wait to volume you name it and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► type that in and give and it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► say it gives you the search but it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► you the answer and it's fast right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► and Cirie has the same ability i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► it's using it might be using wolfram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► alpha it might even be using google for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► but the bottom line is that google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► servers answer that question and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► answer comes up on your screen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► serious still like and holding you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► saying i'm checking this out for you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► are you having a good day like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► don't converse with me Siri just give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► the answer immediately and Google just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► crushes it I don't know if they went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► their server for that that's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► thing with google like that'sthat's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► Google's dream is like you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► know whether I'm doing this all locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► am i doing recognition locally do I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► all the unit conversion logically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► locally or am I just talking to a server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► that's close to you that has a low ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► and talking to one of our amazing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► services written and god-knows-what c++ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► optimized thing that gives responses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► under 100 milliseconds and apples like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► da da maybe make a connection to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► web service and send the stuff and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► it's just the kind of sort of again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► and the kind of end end discipline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► required to make any kind of server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► thing that responsive uh is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► company-wide effort you can't tack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► on you can't change it after the fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► needs to be put in through and through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► now I still think Siri is a better way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► to do voice stuff on your phone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► from what I've seen people who do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► see really use it for things that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► boys can't do like you know setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► timers and you know interacting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► plumbing of iOS and eventually maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► know cooking up the application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► stuff where is the google thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► mostly just a fancy way to use Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► existing web services and searches but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► really I don't think we should have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► choose between those two this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► example of Google once again flexing its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► muscles and showing its strength and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► once again making me feel bad about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► fact that Apple feels like it needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► do everything and it's you know just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► good at that server side part and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► this end it's also getting creamed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► the client-side experience for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► technical and cultural reasons yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► like Gruber said how fast should to beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► this fast or it should feel this fast or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► it should be this good you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► chopped apple and do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► response to this do you think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► will ever do and again listen I likes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► when I when I'm saying something to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► google search and it just shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► words that little thing that it hears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► you and it's making sense of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► accurate I doubt we'll ever see that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► serie because apples whole thing and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► you think about these commercials that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► they've done with Siri Siri is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► to be like your friend it's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► be like a little person it's the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► secretary inside your phone or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► it's not supposed to be the robotic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► Google search is very robotic it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► like there is I am a computer I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► what you say here are the words to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► it you know instead serious like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► listening to you hmm here's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► looking for it it would you be content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► John if Syria just got really accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► and really fast and never gave you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► kind of feedback like I said when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► first talked about Siri serious trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► to provide the illusion of a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► that's better than anything we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► actually make now commercials make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► seem like you know like like artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► intelligence or like something close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► it or like you're talking to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► implementation is more honest it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► limitations of the thing in real time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► and I don't know this happens for non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► tech savvy people maybe it does maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► this non tech savvy people just bail on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► comfortable period of time after you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► Siri especially if you're like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► demonstrate it to somebody where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► like I wonder if it understood anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► that I said or if it's gonna show me egg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► freckles now right like that that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► period when you're waiting you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► like you all you want to see is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► Siri what do you think I said and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► you know three milliseconds between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► time you finish saying what you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► to say and the time what it thinks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► said appears on the screen and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► worst is like when when what thinks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► said appears on the screen and its egg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► freckles me like oh god and just still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► freckles for you here you go you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► oh no you know as soon as you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► it thinks you said that it's wrong right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► and yet you have to endure the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► little spinny thing going off and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► some web service request to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► some bogus answers or offered to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► Google search or something whereas with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► time where you're wondering with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► fingers crossed come on Siri understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► what the hell i said is eliminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► because you see it in real time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► you're looking at it now again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► voice stuff like part of the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► series you're not staring at your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► like if you could stare at your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► why would you be using voice control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► it's like so you can pick up the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► and say you know remind me to call sue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► tomorrow and put it down without looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► at it right again that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► promise of series to do that and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► do that pretty well but for just general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► voice control when you can look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► phone Google's and validation is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► know it's just like Johnny I've it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► more true to to what it is then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► Serie 1 series is aspirational with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► that entails when it falls down you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► like I thought this would be a magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► elephant my computer and it's not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► straightforward like it is what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► you can see what it's doing it works it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► doesn't yeah it has less of a potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► to make people disappointed that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► not magical like in the commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► because if they did a commercial from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► google voice and for all I know they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► doing it because I don't see commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► anymore but if they did the commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► they showed someone talking into it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► disclaimer that says like sequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► shorten or whatever maybe they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► have did a long Google query but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► they could get away with doing an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► real time like no we're not making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► up no sequence is shortened this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3939">TS</a>]
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01:06:02 ◼ ► connection to the internet and when I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► real time talking and Dragon Dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/3964">TS</a>]
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01:07:33 ◼ ► demerits like Siri happened on his watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4053">TS</a>]
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01:07:41 ◼ ► and stuff like that but Siri like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► wasn't that good and I listed it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4063">TS</a>]
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01:07:52 ◼ ► the apple way and it's a change in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4072">TS</a>]
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01:07:56 ◼ ► gives it the reputation of like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4076">TS</a>]
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01:08:06 ◼ ► image that Apple have been so careful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4086">TS</a>]
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01:08:12 ◼ ► up trust in the consumer that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► ship something that's gonna do what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► say it does right and having to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► beta labels like this one not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► like it might kind of do what we say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4099">TS</a>]
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01:08:23 ◼ ► with a giant ad campaign that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► really emphasize the beta aspect of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4105">TS</a>]
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01:08:30 ◼ ► bad or a bad idea or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4110">TS</a>]
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01:08:34 ◼ ► it had more severe downsides than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► typical apple launched right like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► wasn't just like benign or neutral like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► it had parts of it that that caused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► backlash or the didn't work is described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► or that you know that when the servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► for those people who first got their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► phones the early adopters they did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► have a good experience with Siri because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► the servers were constantly slammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► because everyone was taking out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► phones and trying to talk to it uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► you know and Game Center the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► not this is forestalls problem but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► you know I let her press slamming game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4143">TS</a>]
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01:09:09 ◼ ► just got this great game like it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► have been a halo effect finally a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► becomes popular in our little nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► circle that uses Game Center and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► all think the game center is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► because we love the game that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► been a halo effect we got the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► we like the game but Game Center is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► falling down there for now games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► has a bad rap in all our minds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4164">TS</a>]
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01:09:28 ◼ ► the task well Siri and voice recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► an apple there's a little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► you know bad reputation going on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► where I'd be you know late night talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► show host doing jokes about Cirie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4177">TS</a>]
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01:09:41 ◼ ► for very for a very narrow band of tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4181">TS</a>]
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01:09:48 ◼ ► of Siri can reverse that how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► improvement of Game Center can make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► forget about that like even Twitter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4191">TS</a>]
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01:10:16 ◼ ► difficult to come back from that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4216">TS</a>]
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01:11:46 ◼ ► them out you can send twelve thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► emails a month to two thousand scribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► subscribers for free forever it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► great they've got tons and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► really cool resources books that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► put out that are free great tools that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► will help you see exactly what the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► that you're composing is going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► like and pretty much every single email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► humankind you can learn more by going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► MailChimp calm / 5 by 5 even just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► to that URL will show your solidarity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► your Syracuse Ian solidarity malcham com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► / 5 by 5 please go check them out done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► tell group says it says it was Nicaragua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► cross then Scott Newcombe and EU km [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► shames himself in front of the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► world by incorrectly typing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► Contra code the konami code they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► know if anyone didn't when the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► catch it and and shame him scott duke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► nukem yeah my problem with it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► konami code is that the poland storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► song about Frogger tends to intercept it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► in my mind and I'm avid do you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► one no I don't know that one find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► for the show notes and throw it in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4378">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► and move all the other things in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► it's not call is it called the Frogger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► storm the Frogger song I bet if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► do Paul and storm Frogger song you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► find it and we should put that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► show notes don't let me forget that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► alright but about this article written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► by contrib with a que who is mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► a veteran design and management surgeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► parentally perennially in search of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► complex problems to operate on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► one of those few anonymous people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► web who I don't actually know who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► are ah but anyway he nobody no nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► knows oh sure I'm sure everybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► no nobody knows no people no oh people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► know he doesn't post frequently but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► something to say what he but the dials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► article is as Apple's design problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► aren't skeuomorphic talked last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► about Forrestal and the skeuomorphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► design and not just gear morphism but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► treatment of elements being more heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► weight than they used to be and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► reportedly Steve Jobs was heavily into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► that kind of design and so was Forrestal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► and jobs has gone and then Forrestal was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► the one in charge of iOS it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► he was heavily in favor of it too most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► of the people out in the tech world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► don't like it as much and wish there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► less of it and wish that it would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► skeuomorphism flat blowback of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► finally a forcible begun and in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► but all this bad stuff we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► will go away and Johnny Apple save us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► all and conscious article is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► what was wrong what's wrong with apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► he's mostly fucking outstanding iOS here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► but you know in general what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► with apples software and user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► is not there all skeuomorphic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► problems are deeper than that so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► lists a couple of things here like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► may seem like small things but I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► focus on one of them in a bit but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► lists well here's a line of focus on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► on the Notification Center yeah there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► are lots of jailbreak hacks that make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► so when you swipe down with your thumb a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► notification center you don't just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► you notifications you also see a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► set of other items that you want quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► access to and so Congress has six items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► that drain mobile battery devices GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► Wi-Fi cell radio bluetooth and screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► brightness still require laborious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► multiple clicks in multiple places not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► immediately obvious to non 70s just turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► on and off without any simple thematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► or geofence grouping right so anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► traveller just just that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► like I want to turn GPS off because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► cellular data off because I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► it now we're in turn bluetooth codes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► never used i went from the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► brightness up screen brightness down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► doing all those things with a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► jailbreak iphone requires going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► Settings app and filling around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► stuff and it's you know you're like boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► if you know it's one of the reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► people jailbreak like I know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► jailbreak stuff where I just swiped my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► thumb down from the top of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► bluetooth on and off the flip side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► that is like people saying how often do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► you really turn bluetooth on and off why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► are you always turning Wi-Fi on/off we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► just leave everything on the OS will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► manage the battery for you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► do it or whatever but in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► jailbreakers and android are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► like the things i talked about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► that you know the paths in the grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► like if you don't if you don't constrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► people if you give people a green field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► to do whatever they want like jailbreak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► people are like Android people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► something you know trends become clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► paths start getting worn into the grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► from everybody going and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► bluetooth on and off and her Wi-Fi off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► and maybe you know that maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► not right maybe they shouldn't be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► that may be the solution is to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► OS manager better but they're clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► voting with their feet that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► something that they want and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► gonna do with skeuomorphism a contour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► less iCloud desktop integration and file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► sharing among Apple devices we all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► how to pain that is like things get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► iCloud and you edit a text document with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► text edit but it's not visible on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► phone at all because there's no doc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► there's no application from apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► otherwise that reads the iCloud sandbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► for text edit and how do you share among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► document he says the iwork suite is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► begging to be updated preview text at in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► contacts desperately need of you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► overhauls you know says that he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► core functionalities like dictionary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► iOS keyboard layout and auto correction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► not best-of-breed I don't I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► because I don't spend enough time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► other things but apparently those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► are better on other platforms I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► organization of just using folders like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► we're lucky we even get folders versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► just a grid of icons then okay now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► can get a grid of icons nested with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► sub grid of icons navigating among apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► not as not as a fancy or as interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► as it was on like things like webos or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► this may sound like just an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► list of one person's peeves about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► how iOS isn't the same as Android and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► you may be thinking I like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► apple's decisions here all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► that that people want are actually bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► things and Apple is correct to hold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► line on them I'll have more on that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► bit but first I want to get back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► notion from last show about Forrestal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► that like as in all things we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► how many of the things from this list or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► from any of the lists are a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► that forest all is to blame for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► because he's the guy who got forced out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► doesn't mean that everything you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► like was his doing and now that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► gone it will change and I actually got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► right before the show one completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► anonymous tidbit from somebody who heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► this directly from forestalls mouth so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► it's I guess this is what secondhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► information well that if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► trust the person and Mario no i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► don't know this is the anonymous tipster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► i don't know them and they even if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► are a hundred percent accurate which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► think they are cuz like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► upside to blend with us they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► conveying something that forced all said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► directly to them yes direct all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► right so it's at second hand write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► a second where we are saying it died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► hands go anyway take it all set it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► this person's ears this person said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► to me and here it is uh he says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► Steve Jobs and Johnny I've didn't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► home button on the iPhone and forest all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► had to fight them for months before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► finally decided to have a home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► alright and this source says assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► this is true and he says it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► rings true knowing what we know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► dives and jobs like doesn't that sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► like something that I haves and jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► want no no buttons at all just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► screen it's pure it's just the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► like that totally sounds like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► that fits in with a personality but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► anyway this is assuming that Forrestal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► story is true an iphone created at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► time with I've in charge might not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► been the device it might have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► device without a home button on it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► now you know it I think we all agree at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► this point that having that one button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► like it's been touted by many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► like contemplate the design of iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► like no you don't understand like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► not you know when they were rumors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► like you don't understand the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► button is genius having the one button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► is a genius because almost everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► has to be on the screen but there has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► be an on-screen escape hatch for like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► don't know what's going on just forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► about this stuff and rescue me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► that's the physical home button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► mechanically hooked up to anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► a software control button if your think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► freezes the home button does nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► anyway or whatever it's reassuring to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► able to have a physical button it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► be that ives and jobs at the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► accurate we're right and an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► without the home button would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► better but all of us are looking at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► we do have and it's very difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► anyone who's an iOS aficionado not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► come down the side of saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► that home button was one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► decisions they ever made so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► how listeners feel about this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► the home button was a good idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► there is some aspect of it of like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► being able to envision how it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► without the home button but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► this story is accurate here's yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► another example where forestall who none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► of us probably know personally you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► is doing something that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► would agree was a good thing Frankie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► that was down at least one good thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► his tenure now oh yeah other thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► that's the meta point is we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► which things forestall like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► you just want to do all the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► he's responsible for those well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► don't know how you don't know what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► did at all we none of us know he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► have done all hundred percent good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► things or all hundred percent bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► or a 50-50 mix we don't know we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► know he was in charge and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► regardless of whether he's responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► for let me get some responsibility like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► the buck stops here if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► iOS 6 and you want to blame one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► you could blame the CEO of Apple and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► can blame Forrestal he was in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► right so that that is legitimate but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► an individual basis you don't know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► here's yet another example of a story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► the left one from last week was choosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► OS 10 instead of like Linux or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► for their phone OS and I think that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► I can much more heavily defend that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► being the right move in retrospect right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► uh the home button I can go either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► on but I mostly of the opinion that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► was a good call and so if he was four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► Souls behind that that's another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► for all the people out there who think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► the Forrestal just did terrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► like like I said in the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► history is written by the winners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► that means that all the stories you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► out of Apple and stuff about what a tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► all these terrible things that for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► all did well of course it's the entirety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► of the company that fired him versus him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► who is basically probably being quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► has to be quiet so who knows when we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► know the real story but I would say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► everybody regardless of personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► issues and all this stuff like that who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► knows don't be so quick to decide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► forest all responsible for all this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► bad stuff alright so you know all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► is to say we don't know that things will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► get any better you know all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► that that you know contra is talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► about here not just give you a morphism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► but all the things that he's complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► about we don't know that any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► things will be better now the forest all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► is gone one thing I think we can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► confident about is that things will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► different because different people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► in charge like it would be shocking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► me if with this huge reshuffle of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► oh now Federer he's in charge of iOS iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► 10 and now I was instead of in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► user interface the things didn't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► like we don't know what little bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► for worse but we I do think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► gonna change like how could they not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► change right unless there was some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► you know if Steve Jobs was still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► charge I can imagine them not change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► because he sort of exerted his taste on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► the entire company but Tim Cook doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► seem to do that so I would think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► this executive reshuffling things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► going to change now getting back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► the you know easy way to turn on and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and cell data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► stuff like that uh if I had to pick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► word to describe apples handling of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► evolution of iOS would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► intransigence like they have shown over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► the years of especially the later years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► a general unwillingness to to bend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► everyone thinks they're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► you got to have flash on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► apple says no actually we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► have flash and no matter how much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► complain over how many revisions then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► right how many news stories come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► say the iphones great except if only it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► ran flash we're just not going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► right whether it was forestall or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► behind that the dynamic has been that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► users and developers like clamor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► something an apple mostly just says no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► and sticks to his guns and holds firm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► the dynamic in this relationship is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► Apple is the stern adult that knows best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► and we are out there going and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► who we as we is just like consumers tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► pundits gadget reviewers saying Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► you got to do this Apple you add to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► happy good an apple just says calm down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► we know what we're doing we're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► the app store policies are another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► example where everyone was screaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► about what the app store policy should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► everything or whatever and what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► from Apple has been we're just we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► adjustments true some minor backpedaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► but for the most part it's been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► we know best we're gonna stick with or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► doing same thing with the UI simplicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► like I know you want all these fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► features I know you want to have gadgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► on your home screen and all these sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► of things that Android has or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► we're just saying a grid of icons is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► way to do and trust us long term this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► the right thing to do and again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► this intransigence is frequently cited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► by Apple fans as boy is an apple great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► see how they are able to hold strong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► the face of demands for features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► you might think you want but if you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► going that direction eventually you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► end up with a big complicated phone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► one likes and that you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► doing the right thing right ah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► intransigence is the spread of fanciful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► interfaces and skeuomorphic interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► and things with like fake materials and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► you know just both of those aspects both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► in terms of actual skeuomorphism where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► you're trying to have a knob on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► computer screen because people know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► knobs are but you don't actually need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► knobs anymore and a slider way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► and just in terms of it works just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► a regular application it's got buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► and scroll the region's only the buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► look like they're made out of leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► for no reason like a very heavy weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► visual that thing is another example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► something when Apple started doing it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► all went what are you doing Apple this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► is big mess like I don't like it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► ugly doesn't make sense I learned a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► world quote skeuomorphism and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► proves that you're bad and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► we all just like that's enough yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► another example of a place we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► Apple is going wrong uh in this case I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► think there is more weight behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► because it's not just that we want what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► something fancier you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► folders exist at all because of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► complaining about things and even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► is pretty simple you know I want my easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► buddy turn bluetooth on and off they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► holding a line on those and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► more easily supportable than the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► where there they you know usually make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► these fanciful defensible whimsical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► sometimes schemer interfaces because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► those tend to those interfaces tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► happen at the you know to the detriment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► of functionality and usability like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► not like you know they're holding fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► and they haven't been proven right so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► great example this is the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► contests yeah yeah with a purple icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► yep beautiful eve you have purple I yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► and it's got like this is about blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► right the reel-to-reel tape thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► there which is not really skeuomorphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► because it's really just you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► candy you don't really manipulate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► with your fingers and who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► you can but like it's you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► a perfect example this type of design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► and and it appen typical apple fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► they're like you know we like podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► we're sticking with it like this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► we know that's like the culmination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► everything they've done leather address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► book yep we love that we're sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► with it everything looks like tomato [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► plastic and stuff like that up we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► that too we're doing that it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► have a wood title bar in OS 10 it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► know we're sticking it like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► not in fact they've doubled down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► from line to mountain lion that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► justice just spread even farther and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► farther right and so again they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► sticking to their guns and then podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► app was like look see this is just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► know what how could it have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► different when podcast come out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► were you picturing your head at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► point we're like it's gonna be like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► disembodied microphone or a reel-to-reel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► bag of course it has to be of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► right and the proof is in the pudding go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► look at the reviews on the podcast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► on the App Store it's got two stars this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► is a written by a you know the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► company in the world with supposedly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► most talented engineers and it just gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► it's just gets slammed it gets trashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► right it's gotta out of 15,000 total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► ratings about 10,000 of them are one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► star like people don't like it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► don't it doesn't work well it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► look good it's hard to use it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► it has so many bad things but every end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► is not just because it looks like a tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► recorder because 10,000 people out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► 15,000 would not give it one star for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► looking like a tape recorder if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► if this thing worked great and was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► to use and you know how it was good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► all aspects nobody cares that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► skeuomorphic or anything like that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► application fine but as you know contra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► points out in an article they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► just falling down in some esoteric kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► of philosophical way that we disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► with they're just making bad apps it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► bad application it's not good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► don't like it you know people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► deleting it off their phone because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► background and burning through their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► cellular day that things like i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► deleted off one of my devices so far I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► definitely true and it's not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► the first version with bad they fixed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► if you look at the current version the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► rating is still two stars and out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► current version is 710 ratings and 480 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► of those are one star uh so this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► case where you know this dynamic between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► us complaining and Apple not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► anything is taking the turn for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► worst because for the first time Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► is like unquestionably not in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► like it's not a matter of opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► they're making bad software software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► that people don't like software that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► doesn't work right and you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► because it looks like a tapir order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► recorded just you know they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► doing the wrong thing you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► that the development time spent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► podcasts some portion of it had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► spent making that stupid tape recorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► stuff work and that's time that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► have been spent making an actual good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► application or some portion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► design process was short-circuited by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► someone deciding oh I know let's make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► a real tree tape recorder and then out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► the window go tons and tons of possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► interfaces that would have been more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► friendlier easier to use my talk I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► phone call with the developer shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► after came out and I asked him I asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► him about some of this and and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► that the way that it was described to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► was that the there was one person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► interface design stuff and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► another person who was in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► writing the code and of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5398">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► worked as a team they collaborated I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► don't know how much but my impression my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► strong impression was the two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► created the app and they they worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► hard on it they had a vision for it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► did it they were supported and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► choices were supported but the distinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► impression I got was not from on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► know from on high saying this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► this app is going to work it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► like hey we're gonna we're gonna build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► cool app and they built it and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► got it out there and my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► again I could be wrong was that this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► like a two-person team who built this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► app together I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► top-down thing where they're forcing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► know their developers to make it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► this it's it's the opposite it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► Apple had created an environment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► the type of applications they give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► thumbs up to our applications like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► developers either working for apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► not making an application that looks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► behaves like this like it you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► classic mac OS like you know if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► inside Apple and it was your job to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► application it's your job to make like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► the keychain a manager keychain existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► application where you messed with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► they decided to make it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► something like with like a padlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► metaphor that uses you know physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► keys stuff like that if you went to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► superiors as a two-person development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► teams that we're thinking of making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► they'd be like what no use a scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► table view with sortable columns like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► officially from Apple right it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► counterexample there from the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► mac OS days is the CD player remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► that Apple CD player yes yeah first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► hints of like those guys said we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► make it look kind of like an 80s Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► plastic thing can we do that like a CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► player it's kind of ok but see player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► also you know kind of worked ok that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► like a balance between those things as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► you get more fanciful getting into games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► where the UI can look like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► there's a bounce so key change shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► look like that CD player can look it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► mostly like a regular you I but it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► a little bit different but it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► was you know podcast is way on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► side of it and as it turns out unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► something like garageband podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► application has utilitarian functions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► that need to be fulfilled and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► is over the line and it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► people's fault for proposing and wine to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► do that it's apple's fault for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► creating an environment where this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► of application is given a thumbs up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► that it fits perfectly and it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► aberration it's not like those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► crazy guys made the apple CD music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► player thing Apple CD audio play or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► whatever it's called they're not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► aberration they are in the mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► this is how Apple does development now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► and that's what we're talking about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► not so much to pick on these particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► people doing this one application but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► this is how Apple has decided this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► what software development is for iOS in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► the Mac you make these crazy high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► concept very art heavy things uh and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► it looks awesome in it and it demos well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► on a stage and the graphics of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► things are great you can't complain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► that's not a good looking real the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► thing was just like that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► what's important about an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► you know that's that's what countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► his article here he has this strangely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► worded section at the bottom I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► know if this passive voice or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► flipping around of object and subjective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► anyway says a serious mistake would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► functional expert experiential software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► aesthetically unifying display layer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► this is like what would Johnny I'd do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► fix everything right and she says such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► as a more modern less cheesy looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► game saying a game center redesign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► doesn't have a social layer so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► complained myself about Game Center how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► it's insulting the gamers and gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► looking and just terrible and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► like that so Johnny I've swoops in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► he says I'm gonna fix this and he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► game center not look like green Felton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► and all that stuff or whatever but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► hasn't actually fixed it because one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► the you know that's surface level what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► you know what's really wrong with game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► center well it's not as good as xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► live it's not as good as like steam or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► services that provide similar functions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► just functionally like where's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► social layer wow how easy it is it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► find and add friends and and you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► matches and find out what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► compared to you and stuff like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► know it's not just how the thing looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► ah and aesthetically unified itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► without appreciably better content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► discovery what's wrong with iTunes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► not just that it's ugly and buggy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► stuff like that but it should be easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► to find stuff that you like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► Assyria app without the background linen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► but still lacking much deeper semantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► integration with the rest of iOS right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► is what's wrong with Syria it stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► Linden background no we just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► about this many things that are wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► with Syria have nothing to do with how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► it looks and with a little metal button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► that looks there and whether is Linden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► behind everything a Maps app without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► ungainly surreal visual artifacts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► still missing a robust search layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► underneath you know what's wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► maps is not the ugly graphics and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► were three 3d flyover like that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► gravy we're willing to accept that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► the data that's bad in iBooks app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► without the wooden shelves are in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► spine shadow but still with subpar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► typography and emic hyphenation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► justification I books I complained about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► it looking like a book it's stupid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► pointless whatever but that's not what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► wrong with ibooks it's not a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► reader doesn't you know do hyphenation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► while you can't do floating images it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► like you know the store experience on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► how you update think we have the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► show complaining about I book stuff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► not like people will focus on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► looking like a book and I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► a problem and they've addressed it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► having non-book looking the modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► much deeper things wrong that Jony ive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► or anyone else can't fix by putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► new coat of paint things or he ends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► a podcast app without the tape deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► skeuomorphism but with all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► navigational opaqueness wise podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► are difficult to use you can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► where you are and your catalog and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► and you know your list of things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► it's difficult to find where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► ignoring that the tape deck thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► entirely there are deeper things wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► so he's in conclusion here at the end in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► the end what's wrong with iOS isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► dark linen behind the app icons at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► bottom of the screen but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► interaction management and navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► than users fiddling with tiny icons I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► fairly sure most Apple users gladly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► continue to use but there what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► challenge calendar notebook apps for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► thousand years apple can only solve more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► far more vexing problems software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► problems of applied the unification when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► performance and reliability of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► like the the point of this article is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► that there are much much deeper problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► then what these things look like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► metaphor is they use even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► not you know if not saying those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► aren't problems in many cases those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► things are problems in many cases those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► decisions cause other problems but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► problems are much deeper they all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► way down the software stack all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► through the wires into the server all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► the way to the company policies just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► know everything uh so Johnny I've does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► have his work cut out for a minute too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► I'm not saying he doesn't he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► understand it's like we're giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► something that you know you're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► John you have something doesn't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► know I think he understands how deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► usability goes and how it's not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► coat of paint like no it certainly has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► shown that he understands that hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► right but people out there thinking if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► iOS 7 comes out and linen texture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► gone and it looks nicer it's like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► Johnny I saved us all no I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► he will have unless he's addressed all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► federighi have addressed these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► intransigence will start you know fading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► where it's like finally is iOS freed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► evolve again to say we want to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► not just do a toe dip into data sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► but like let's solve the data sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► problem once and for all and let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► more bold with what springboard looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► like like adding folders was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► concession and it's not like a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► concession it's like what can we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► kind of fits with the because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► what they want like is there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► beyond springboard someone should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► thinking you're working about that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► the iPad came out I remember thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► like well it's not just going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► grid of icons because a tablet interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► require you know you have more space a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► different metaphor will be appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► and they just stuck with springboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► way it was which works it's not terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► it's better than doing something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► bad but I still feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► something beyond the grid of icons they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► can go to and again as people will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► like you don't understand apples right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► here sticking with the Civil grid icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► this was genius about you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► it has to be this simple like in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► areas Apple is right I do applaud them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► for holding fast but things do need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► evolve an apple does need to recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► the difference between when it's holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► fast in a case where it turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► right and when it's holding fast in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► where it turns out to be wrong and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► the user interface stuff in the past two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► versions of both Mac os10 and iOS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► think they've been conclusively proven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► themselves to be on the wrong trap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► applications both look and feel and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► they work to make users happy and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► applications I think well this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► this is one of those things where when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► you look at the history of the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► people have felt about this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► vocal people who are like contra you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► really don't know who he is I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► don't i don't think anyone knows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► know he one of the points that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► that he's making here that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► you know one of the the points a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► people have been trying to make is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► want to see changes you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► saying and that's part of why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► people get upset about this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► changes that we know are coming or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► always one that we're hoping for we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► going to see progress not well yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► that's a better way to say progress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► we don't know nasty stagnation yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► there's a balance between not giving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► to every stupid user whim and ending up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► with something looks like windows with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► stickers all over it and sticking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► something past it's expiration date and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► then the war so who's going to determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► what that expiration date really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► well you mean that's that's as we pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► apple for right that's that that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► job to you know that up until like up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► until maybe lion and mountain lion Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► os10 both evolved and changed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► tremendously in big dramatic ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► pretty much universally in positive ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► and only with lion and mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► have things come in that the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► impression of them was that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► off pudding or you know that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► like them doesn't mean that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► wrong but like then it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► change from like you know every version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► had something for someone to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► about her pet feature didn't get done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► but in general we all felt like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► moving in a positive direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► here's this thing that goes in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► unexpected direction and an unexpected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► direction can be amazing like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► come up with the phone with no buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► on it like that was unexpected and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► people are uncomfortable with it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► seemed like it was a terrible idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► turned out not to be yeah well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► trend with you know changing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► applications like this like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► beginning like could be cool but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► kind of uncomfortable but let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► keep an open mind but they just to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► executing on this thing and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► worst part is that it works great in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► some contexts like garageband which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► practically it's not it i'm gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► it's a game like that'll make Merlin mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► application but like the skeuomorphism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► they're actually serves a role because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► the people who are able to use this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6058">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► application to do anything worth a damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► probably at this point in history are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► familiar with the devices that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► they're mimicking maybe there's kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► growing up and they've never seen like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► wah pedal and they don't know why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► thing looks like a little box with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► with knobs on it they don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► what it's emulating whatever but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► that I feel like a creative application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► has more leeway to do that type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► but GarageBand on the Mac where it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► multitrack Audio Editor maybe it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► need the wood title bar like but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► didn't really mind that much but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► just they keep going down this path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► despite all of the negative signals from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► from users and everything that maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► you shouldn't paint everything with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► same brush and maybe it's not the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► go and losing sight of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► used to be on track without getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► blinded by the incredible high quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► of the visuals they have in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► pictures are pretty like you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► Apple give Apple credit when they do ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► you a morphic application where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► make something out of fake real-world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► materials they look really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► even if you hang their ugly you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► resolution and that can blind you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► application right and what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► wrong with it is if you did the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► wireframe information architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► diagram it would be you know it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► cumbersome to go from here to there or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► that's you know too much of a pain or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► whatever so all this is all mixed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► interface malaise right like the visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► malaise of like just too heavy witness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► hurting my eyes and like Windows 8 is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► breath of fresh air right and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► malaise of like even I've just ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► application because I can't get it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► work and do what I wanted to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► right you're upset yeah all right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► not that hopeful like I because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► haven't been totally against this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► you read my line the mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► reviews like you know I great pains to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► point out that like it could be that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► know a lot of the feeling against like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► the leather calendar and stuff is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► application is this what the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► is that the leather or the stitching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► like people don't like it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► think it's ugly and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► legitimate thing using something ugly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► not fun but like the real problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► the calendar application we're like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► you know didn't have features to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► wanted it was cumbersome to use or and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► skeuomorphism as like if you're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► that that's not helping if you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► visual promises you know these graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► interface can't cash the graphics say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► one thing the interface says no sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► right and they're closer to that balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► in iOS but you know it's that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► mostly on board with this thing but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► I feel like uh we've done we've run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► experiment and this school of design has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► its limits Annapolis crossed has Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► has crossed over them and it needs to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► needs to regroup and pull it back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► focus less on the visuals and more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► what the thing exactly to do and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► that means you get to keep these visuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► fine keep the cool appearances and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► concentrate on making it also like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► took this application removed all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► textures and just made it wireframes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► would still be an awesome application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► like a recent example letterpress that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► basically is that yeah but that severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► that's a very special case I mean how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► many apps are gonna be like that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► they're gonna be awesome if you removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► everything fifty percent well think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► male male is basically it's like an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► wireframe yeah right like it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► simplest possible controls and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► if it's fast and responsive especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► in the early days when this was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► you know people liked male like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► maybe people are grumpy because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► quite as feature rich as they want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► be but really any great application you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► should be able to completely remove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► fancy visuals and just keep it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► wireframes and it should still be useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► and pleasing to use maybe not doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► delight people as much as you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► like a cool shredding animation or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► even letterpress makes things explode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► when you remove the game stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► yeah like that's that's icing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► like progressive enhancement but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► got to be a solid you know solid user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► interface design in terms of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► know enough its law applies to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► things with like touch target size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► location obvious navigational model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► mental model like that's all got to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► and then you make it look awesome on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► of that you can't start from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► direction you know just to kind of take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► this off uh on a tangent a little bit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► assume that because you know we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► either confirm nor deny that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► anything to do with voting this year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► if you were watching any of the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► on television after after voting in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► it was closing and things like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► have on an NBC was especially bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► this you know when NBC would go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► commercial you'd have to an unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► task of switching over to the CNN which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► is worse you they would play very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► especially CNN in the background the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► whole time to do to hold while they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► talking while they're talking about poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► results they would have the picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► Obama come up and it would have liked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► little highlight move across the square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► box around him framing his picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► it would flip out and roll out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► there'd be little like explosions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► fading things in and fading T who needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► that garbage and that to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► exactly what's going on with these apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► like just show you know what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► have liked a screen that just showed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► on it here's a picture here's a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► the other dude here's information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► the dude that's all that I want need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► see I don't need to see little flyovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► and call outs and weird little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► like that it's all extra it's all crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► stuff I mean it's bad enough that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► have little scrollers are going across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► the bottom of the screen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► I don't need a lens flare happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► real time over a picture of a candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► like it's it's not necessary having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► you know it's almost like hat like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► you watch a TV show from the 70s or 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► it's got a laugh track on it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► painfully obvious that it was a laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► track and not done in front of a studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► audience this is the laugh track of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► apps that we have today these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► I hope at some point people realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► none of this garbage is really necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► just give us a nap now fine you pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► out games like games great do cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► with the game because it's a game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► usually it's a full screen interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► like you've identified but you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► stay wat why why do companies feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► they need to do this stuff there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► there people out there who like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► think it's cool i think there are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► think there are people how did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► the interface looks just like paper it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► looks just like paper like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► people who love that John well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► some room for that I think like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► artistic application or even just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► the metal dock which I actually I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► I'm staring it now I'm mountain lion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► my mac pro here and I as I said in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► review I was gonna try to keep this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► metal slanty dock thing and I kept think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► is I think it looks I think it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► nice like I would like to own an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► physical thing that was made of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► cool shiny metal thing uh there's room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► for that like that it's like icing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► the cake you know I I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► everything needs to be completely plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► even straightforward applications uh can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► make you feel better about using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► experience making right better to click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► I mean even just the OS changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► buttons to be like aqua colored and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► making them flat or whatever like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► want things to look cool and nice or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► whatever but never to the detriment it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► always got to be an enhancement never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► the detriment and never to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► distraction and speaking of the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► background thing two things in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► first it reminded me of closer to home I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► don't know if you ever listen to these I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► think you tried to do this like once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► don't remember but you know the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► thing where there's light background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► music kind of like the stuff you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► imitated yeah throughout the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► podcast array or does it sometimes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► Howard Stern used to do it no drive me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► crazy like Howard you do not need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► music behind you yeah but either during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► the ads he would do it sometimes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► well I don't know what that is is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► a term term of art for that background i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► admittedly I don't know that did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► ever do that I thought I was right i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► at one time as a as a joke on Marco show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► after he had done his he did his spot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► howard stern show and had it had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► music behind it and as a joke I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► we should do that on this show we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► have you know music behind the ad reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► during the spot and and talk over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► and and so put it on there as a joke for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► that show and boy you should have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► the emails and tweets I got from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► who didn't know that it was a joke that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► you know they're there was like One guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► like I really like it it sounded cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► and then everybody else was like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► do this again I'm unsubscribing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► every show and I will never listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► any of these people again and I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► listen to these people so please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► do it or I'll kill you like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► almost death threat kind of thing it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► really a joke it was just a joke hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► Indian says it's wallpaper music and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► always bothered me as well as like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► do that on TV as well you know that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► also like the lens flare later oh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkwNQeI/6570">TS</a>]
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