Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► this is hypercritical weekly talk show [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► the world of Apple and related [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► technologies and businesses nothing is [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► so perfect that it can't be complained [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► about by my friend and yours John [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► siracusa I'm Dan Benjamin today is [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► Friday November second 2012 episode [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► number 92 far beloved hypercritical we [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► would like to say thanks very much to [TS]

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00:00:36 ◼   ► month november my note and into dove my [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► mapping app for mac and iOS whether [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► you're brainstorming for your next [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► project organizing your life planning [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► your vacation no matter minor lets you [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► collect structured expand your ideas god [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► I'd cloud sharing built-in have your [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► mind maps with you wherever you go check [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► them out at mind node dot-com good [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► afternoon hello how are you doing this [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► fine day how is the weather how is your [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► power situation how are things holding [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► up in the Northeast uh everything's fine [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► here there we never even lost power I [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► noticed that your you're sort of [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► grandstanding a little bit uh by talking [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► about how your your kids were playing [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► through all sorts of video games and [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► like grandstanding well yeah we've got [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► power that kind of thing showboating is [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► that a better word I don't think either [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► one of those are proprio k and no I did [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► a lot some trees down in the [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► neighborhood but nothing bad happened to [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► my house and we didn't lose power good [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► was that the topic of the building to [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► analyze you talked about New York [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► whether things did you not listen I did [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► not listen I intentionally did not some [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► Hall uh I will go on record and say I'm [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► prepared to be surprised but I think we [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► covered every possible topic you could [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► possibly cover if it has to do with [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► anything that's happened in the last [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► couple weeks well that's why I didn't [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► listen because you know I assumed there [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► was going to be [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► lots of overlap and it's much easier for [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► me to talk about them it you know [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► without feeling self-conscious if I [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► hadn't actually heard what other people [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► said so hmm well Marcos and my entire [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► goal of the show was to cover every [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► topic that you could possibly bring up I [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► think we did it high five all right well [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► but I didn't hear it I know that's all [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► right now this is all new to me and you [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► have to you know do the little men and [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► black Mindwipe things so that you can [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► now come to these topics again fresh cuz [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► you gotta do both shows yeah and I did [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► the frequency new show this morning so I [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► this will be my third current events [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► show today that's right well like each [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► time you feel like you're getting closer [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► to the truth of the matter right now [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► that no absolute I feel like if there's [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► any doubt about getting to the heart of [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► the matter by the end of this show will [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► have definitely done it here yeah let me [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► just get my I didn't think you would [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► actually finish so soon and since I [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► wasn't listening I didn't know when [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► you're gonna end let me just get mine [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► I'd hate to keep you waiting I've [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► learned my lesson you've not learned [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► your lesson I have learned it you [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► learned nothing I learned something but [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► not much does it ever occurred to you [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► Dan you like that movie I don't see that [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► a long time well it's a very good [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► Halloween movie matter to you all your [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► point the owners place their complete [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► confidence and trust in me that I've [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► signed a letter of agreement a contract [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► you're so obsessed with that one little [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► passage that one scene it now like when [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► I watch it again it'll be it'll be a [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► letdown ya know he does that's not how [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► Dan does it he must want some dude trust [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► me he does it better all right let's see [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► what we got here we all said that [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► already gotta get my chat windows [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► arranged so I can see all the people all [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► other people who kept mentioning me [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► during the chat and I was trying to [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► ignore them know he resized my window [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► from the top see see what happens did [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► you find a stranger in the alps like i [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► did that thing where you try to move the [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► though and you accidentally grabbed it [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► accidentally grabbed the top edge of it [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► yeah and cited now my windows the wrong [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► side ah there's no one do for window [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► resizing I just burned the computer to [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► the ground now start all over [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► alright I have a lot of notes you're on [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► fire today very disorganized I like this [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► this new siracusa same old all right [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► follow up let's dive in dive in all [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► right on the last show we discussed the [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► Microsoft Surface a bit and has it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► relates to the ipad mini both of which [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► came out around the same time or [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► announced 11 ship timon was announced [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► and at one point we're discussing [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► storage sizes and how the mini comes in [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► 16 but the smallest surface is 32 and [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► I'd mentioned that someone said [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► something about the OS on the surface [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► taking up like 12 gigabytes so that 32 [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► gig model really you only got 20 left [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► after everything's in there so Karsten [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► sills and a couple of that people wrote [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► in with more concrete numbers on how [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► much room is taken up this is pulled [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► from the anon tech review of Windows RT [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► and the surface and all that stuff link [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► is in the show notes and on says that [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► between 6.5 and 7.5 gigabytes are taken [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► up with the OS and then another 750 to [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► 850 megabytes for office which comes [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► with the thing so it's not 12 total [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► taken up I said it he had about 25 gigs [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► left on a 32 gig surface not much [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► alright no no that's actually wrongly [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► said it said 25 gigs have started to [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► start with so after Windows and Office [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► well it's 17 gigs left for programs and [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► documents ah sorry the general idea that [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► the OS and office take up a lot of room [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► on the shipping service is true and [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► that's probably why like on a 16 if you [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► had seven or eight dedicated to that [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► then it's down to like 10 you know [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► anyway the general idea that the surface [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► software takes up more room than does [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► the ipad is still valid but the numbers [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► from last week were incorrect and [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► according to non tech these are the [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► numbers he actually saw on his devices [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► something else from last week discussing [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► and now we're I guess we're talking [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► about new hardware or maybe in the past [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► about the macbook pro screens where [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► they're fusing the glass to the display [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► for the retina right models [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► as opposed to having an LCD panel and [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► then like a small air gap and then just [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► like a piece of glass so that I was [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► saying if you you know dropped your keys [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► on your screen or scratched it or [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► something you haven't actually scratched [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► the screen with the old way you could [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► just replace the glass on the front and [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► the LCD panel itself is protected by [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► this sacrificial glass and they're not [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► fused together apparently even on those [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► old models where it had the piece of [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► glass and then the screen if you were to [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► do that like scratch it up or and get a [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► thing replaced they always replaced it [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► as a single module anyway like they [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► replaced the screen and the glass at the [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► same time that's that's from stephen [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► hackett on twitter and then Thomas brand [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► on Twitter explained it because I asked [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► why why would they why wouldn't they [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► just replace the glass he said it's [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► because the glass is glued to the lid [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► and the two can't be removed without [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► heat and so they don't do that repair in [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► the Apple stores you know in the back [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► room with like a heat gun or whatever [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► it's just like they just sorry just give [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► them a whole new thing so that's why [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► they replace it as you mentioned I don't [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► know I mean I guess I don't want them [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► removing it or maybe the type of thing [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► where if you use a heat gun to like [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► loosen up the glue and you pull it out [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► like it's never the same again and it'll [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► never get glued back right so they just [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► replace it as a unit and finally on the [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► topic also from Twitter Tanner Silva [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► said that he got his screen replaced on [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► his 15-inch retina MacBook Pro and the [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► total cost was eight hundred and [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► forty-six dollars hmm so not cheap be [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► careful with those screens on the topic [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► of the imac the new iMac which we [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► discussed last time we were talking [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► about why is that chin still there that [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► why doesn't just look like you know the [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► monitor the chinky smaller and [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► de-emphasize but is still there it's got [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► the apple logo on the front of it which [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► seems weird for Apple who's on their iOS [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► devices any not all about shoving the [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► apple logo in your face but here on the [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► imac berries do it and what was your [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► speculation as to why laughing seemed [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► like just to differentiate it from being [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► a monitor and just to make it more clear [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► that it's a computer right and the chin [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► has been de-emphasized a couple theories [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► about why the tuna there some people [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► said this stuff in the chin i said [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► they're like there's nothing in the chin [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► there is stuff in the chin you know like [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► the ram and the speakers and stuff like [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► that but I mean that stuff could all fit [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► behind monitor like maybe they couldn't [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► have a five millimeter edge on the [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► bottom if that was the case but it's not [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► like it's not like there's not room [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► behind [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► giant monitor for all the pieces of the [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► imac but a couple of other theories from [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► this one from jack / on twitter and a [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► couple other people had similar feedback [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► is that there's stuff behind the apple [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► logo on the front of the thing he says [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► that the bluetooth antenna is there we [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► just got to have somewhere working radio [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► signal out and so if it's trapped inside [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► this metal case hmm if you can't get [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► through the screen you know cuz the [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► screen will be blocking the signal so we [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► can't get back out the back because [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► that's metal you need some sort of radio [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► transparent region on the case for the [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► signals come out and I think someone [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► else said that they thought the Wi-Fi [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► stuff was in there so using it as a [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► window for a wireless stuff I think [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► that's happened before on iOS devices it [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► was in the apple logo on one of the [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► iphones used for like or maybe was the [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► ipad i did they put wireless stuff in [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► behind the apple logo I didn't I didn't [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► I don't recall that but I bet you're [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► right and we well I yeah I don't [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► remember I know they had like that the [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► 3g model always has the plastic stripe [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► on the ipad and that's like oh you know [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► the non 3g one doesn't have that then [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► the question okay on the non 3g one [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► where you don't have the big plastic [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► stripe on the top where does the Wi-Fi [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► come out of in the answer to that i [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► think was at some point in the past if [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► it's not currently true the plastic [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► apple logo so there you go so maybe [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► that's one of the reasons they keep that [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► stuff in there it's just kind of like [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► well we got a place for the stuff again [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► no reason they couldn't just get rid of [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► the chin and make a little stripe of [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► plastic on the bottom edge that you [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► wouldn't see that would take care of [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► that for them uh one more from Michael [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► stark we were talking about the thing [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► where the iPad Mini is supposed to [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► ignore your thumb when you're just [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► holding it and supposed to know like is [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► he trying to use his thumb to use the [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► device or just holding it there to [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► happen to go over the edge because the [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► border on the left and right side is [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► there a term for that that whole process [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► what the process of ignoring it yeah the [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► the is there like a term for that [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► phenomenon of you have your thumb on the [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► device and we are going to ignore it [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► well there's a bunch of events in Cocoa [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► this is not from this piece of feedback [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► from other stuff that didn't have time [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► to pull into the notes with attribution [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► that there's a the event system for you [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► I kid has like a bunch of callback [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► events for like you know [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► they are not thumb but I touches our [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► stationary or touches is resting i'm [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► getting these names wrong but there's a [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► bunch of events that are supposed to [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► signal that something is happening in a [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► way that doesn't necessarily indicate [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► input i don't remember the exact names [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► but all of them are they're not names [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► like thumb totally didn't mean it [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► there's no event like they're not [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► they're not ascribing a motivation to [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► the touch they're merely saying you know [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► this touch is stationary or this touch [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► has become stationary then you can [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► decide what policy you want to do based [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► on that I'm sure that's you know part of [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► the mechanism they're using but it's [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► it's part of the public event system but [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► I don't know if there's some larger name [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► for unintentional input but well you [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► brought up the thing on the laptop [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► trackpad so ignore accidental trackpad [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► input yeah that used to have a checkbox [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► like on and off and you know you'd [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► always want that to be off because you [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► put it on it would decide they were just [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► start ignoring you and say oh looks like [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► you're probably just typing on the [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► keyboard and your hand brushed up [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► against the trackpad I'm going to ignore [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► that you and in reality what you've done [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► is changed from typing to quickly move [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► something move the cursor with your [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► thumb and then would ignore it and it [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► was incredibly frustrating uh so Michael [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► Stark tweeted to say that Apple has [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► removed the GUI for that setting I [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► remember you were looking forward in the [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► show yeah you find it nope so there's a [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► tech note that i linked in the a lot of [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► techno did say i don't knowledgebase [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► article from apple's website that i [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► linked in the show notes and it says are [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► you trying to locate the ignore [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► accidental trackpad input trackpad [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► option yes we were trying to look at if [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you're trying to locate it on your [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► macbook macbook pro or macbook air [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► computer with a multi-touch trackpad [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► that preference is no longer there and [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► that functionality to ignore excel [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► inputs is enabled automatically by [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► default for these devices i think the [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► reason that it no longer bothers us is [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► because the old track pads that had that [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► option were not multi-touch i don't know [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► how many touch they sense maybe they [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► only sent two or whatever but they [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► weren't like the current glass trackpad [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► switch to probably do five points 10 [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► points i don't even know how many points [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► that multi-touch they do but there was [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► like a dividing line between the the [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► quote-unquote non multi-touch trackpad [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► even though i think they can handle more [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► than one touch and then the multi-touch [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► ones and it's much easier to figure out [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► what's intentional from unintentional if [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► you can sense all the sort of things [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► that are touching where you know versus [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► a trackpad that can only sense one or [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► two points of touching and it has to [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► decide which one of those is the real [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► one so if you accidentally brushed up [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► against a non multi-touch trackpad with [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► like five fingers the hardware is only [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► going to send like two of those to the [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► device and it's got to figure out what's [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► going on so it seems that once they went [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► to multi-touch now they have enough [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► information from all the touches and a [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► much more sensitive touch interface to [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► be able to turn that policy on by [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► default so they can better determine [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► what's accidental so that I guess [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► probably bodes well for the the iPad [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► minis implementation of this if we hit [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► both of us didn't even notice that this [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► is now on by default on on laptop track [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► pads and the multi-touch error right did [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► you get before we get off that topic did [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► you get your ipad mini yet I know you [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► just said it was like on its way through [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► the distribution center blah blah blah [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► you've been tracking an effect right it [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► is on fedex vehicle for delivery [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► delivering to our you corporate [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► headquarters UPS store so it will be [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► here at some point today it's not been [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► delivered yet they say by 3pm i believe [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► them so i will have it sometime later [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► today I'm sure all right it's not going [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► to arrive while record it will not test [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► no even if it is delivered that's not [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► here so no chance no chance all right [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► first sponsor good idea I mean why not [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► right Shopify calm hosted e-commerce [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► solution allows you to set up and run [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► your own online store in minutes they [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► say minutes i say moments you just pick [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► a template you add your products you [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► pick your payment processor could be [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► paypal stripe authorize.net whatever and [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► you just ship your stuff just a few [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► clicks it's easy to sell online there's [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► no software to download nothing to host [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► nothing to upgrade nothing to maintain [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► they do everything you can pick from [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► over a hundred professionally designed [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► ecommerce templates or you just create [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► your own make it look exactly the way [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► you want make it look exactly like your [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► own website you get full control over [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► the HTML and CSS there's no bandwidth [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► limits you have to worry about scaling [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► they handle redundancy failover [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► everything [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► and they're pci level one pci DSS [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► compliant totally secure all you need is [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► something to sell special URL Shopify [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► calm / 5 x 5 first of all just go there [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► and check out what they have to offer [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► look at their examples page look at what [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► you can build a lot of the sites that [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► you're already using when you go and you [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► buy stuff there Shopify sites and you [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► have no idea because they look exactly [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► like the site that you were you're at [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► good example this is the book apart site [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► that's all Shopify look how they've [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► handled it look how they've stopped it [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► Shopify com such five by five you get [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► three months free instead of just our [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► usual 30 days free go check them out [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► support the show thanks very much for to [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► them for making show possible all right [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► ready yeah before we get off the topic [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► of the apple logo chin thing yes on [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► Twitter like Michael ago Mike the goat [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► he says they do it in a goat voice yeah [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► I can't duck into a goat okay yeah this [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► is this piece of feedback was also sent [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► by a lot of people but he's good to [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► remind us of that it's not just [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► bluetooth and Wi-Fi also the IR think [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► maybe we forget that these things have [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► you know I are now that they don't come [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► with your remote anymore I don't think I [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► think I stopped shipping that remote but [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► at one point they shipped a little [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► cruddy plastic remote that's stuck to [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► the side of the imac with a magnet [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► remember that yeah there's a that was [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► funny little little white plastic and it [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► had the little I'm an infrared remote [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► band across the top of it yeah chiku [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► things but anyway the n ir receiver [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► obviously has to be its line of sight so [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► you can't just put the little strip on [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► the back but i still have full [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► confidence that Apple could find a place [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► to hide the IR receiver like behind the [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► black border of this screen or something [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► you know like it doesn't I don't think [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► it has to necessarily be Annapolis it's [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► not like they have to keep the apple [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► logo just for the IR think there's [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► plenty of other front-facing things for [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► example they have a front facing camera [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► on these things and they're pretty darn [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► good at hiding that one doesn't that you [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► know our receivers don't have to be the [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► size of the apple logo they can be those [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► little tiny things all right I'm sure [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► you talked about this on build and [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► analyze this week someone in the chat [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► room just asked about it but this week [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► Disney purchase Lucasfilm and i'm sure [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► people want to hear what I have to say [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► about that [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► as it happens I beat marco to the punch [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► on this and i did an hour-long episode [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► of being comparable it was episode 114 [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► titled when you wish upon a star wars i [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► will put that into the show notes it's [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► already there a little oh no oh no yes [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► yeah so people who want to hear what I [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► have to say about the Star Wars stuff [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► that episode is already sitting in [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► itunes for you just go over to your [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► incomparable fee but you all subscribe [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► to write and pull up when you wish upon [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► a star wars and you can hear all about [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► it ah and now I don't have to talk about [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► it in the show because I have lots of [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► other things to discuss unless there's [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► any specific thing that you need to know [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► I don't know if you listen to that [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► something horrible but is there anything [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► specific that you're dying to know about [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► my take on the Lucas stuff there are [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► lots of things and I recommend this show [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► I recommend this episode of the show I'm [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► not done listening to it yet but [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► intentionally because I wanted to be [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► somewhat surprised for for you on your [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► responses and things on this show the [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► main question I think that folks have [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► you we have talked which which episode [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► did we discuss George Lucas and what he [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► has done to Star Wars let me see if do [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► you remember the episode number no I [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► never remember the episode numbers in [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► fact I was trying to find episode [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► numbers for like when we talked about [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► Windows 8 and I had difficulty even [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► finding madam I'm doing a bad job for [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► Star Wars is not a blog post that sounds [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► likely the People vs George Lucas yeah [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► that was probably is that the one okay [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► so this is episode number 45 of this [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► show let's see then there was another [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► one yeah that's it so I'll put that and [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure that's it i'll put that [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► in the show notes is first my first [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► question for you is is this a good thing [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► or a bad thing not because there's a [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► that's a loaded question first of all [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► you have George Lucas stepping back [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► stepping away and other people coming in [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► to do things with Star Wars first of all [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► second of all the announcement that [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► there will be new Star Wars movies [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► coming out every three or four days [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► there'll be a new Star Wars movie made [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► is that a good thing or a bad thing what [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► are your thoughts on this [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► as I said I mean comparable I think this [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► is a good thing completely a good thing [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► uh I always assumed that we'd have to [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► wait for George Lucas to die right [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► before well we all hoped that wouldn't [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► come to that but we answer that was that [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► was the assumption that he would have to [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► die before anyone would be able to start [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► fixing things because he was such a [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► control freak about it when you know [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► yadon but he was able he was able to [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► give it up and that's good and it's good [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► because it frees star wars from is his [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► control he had such strict control over [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► the the prequels and they were so [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► terrible being free of that control is [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► great because it gives other people more [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► talented people younger people hungry [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► people a crack at the franchise so I [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► think I think it's a good thing it gives [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► us a chance to possibly have the [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► unadulterated versions of the movies be [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► released all sorts of things that you [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► know all the dissatisfaction that star [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► wars fans have had with the franchise [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► all that potentially is cured by [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► bringing the franchise elsewhere so I [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► give I give it a thumbs up and I'm happy [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► and optimistic about what will happen it [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► could very well be that some terrible [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► things come out of that this terrible [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► television program is more terrible [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► movies but the fact that it's out of [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► control that one person means that lie [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► so it so you make some bad ones give [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► someone else a chance they can make some [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► good ones there's lots of things you can [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► do with the star wars franchise and now [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► that things like the movies which are [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► like okay well you can make you know [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► expanded universe novels and video games [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► and stuff like that but George Lucas is [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► the guy who says okay for the movies [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► like those were you know now now it's [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► not gated by one guy's whims like George [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► Lucas didn't feel like doing Star Wars [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► movie for a decade or two there was no [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► Star Wars movies for decades that snot [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► gonna happen anymore so I am optimistic [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► and I think it's a good thing I'm very [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► optimistic I think anything that gets [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► this away from George Lucas's personal [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► thoughts and opinions and feelings is it [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► is a good thing I think the further away [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► this is from George Lucas the better I'm [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► grateful that he had the idea for Star [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► Wars and then he was able to execute the [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► star wars empire star [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► back in to some degree that third one so [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► well and good let's get it away from him [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► and let's anything that I I can't [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► believe that they're going to do [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► anything that'll be worse than I think [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► what I think you can make things worse [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► as I said at the end of the maybe I'm [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► just more optimistic as I said at the [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► end of the uncomfortable I I can [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► definitely see movies being worse than [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► the prequels but nothing that they do [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► with the star wars franchise will feel [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► worse than the prequels felt because you [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► know it's not you know the and absolute [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► quality yeah you can make worst movies [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► and that no lots of ways but nothing [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► will feel that bad because we waited so [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► long and just it was inconceivable these [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► movies could be anything other than [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► awesome and they were terrible and it [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► was just the biggest letdown ever now [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► we're all we all bear those emotional [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► scars and have severed our relationship [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► with the franchise in some fashion in [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► order to move on with their lives and [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► now now we're free to enjoy the fruits [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► of other people's Labor's in this [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► universe without the expectations and [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► anticipation that accompanied the [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► prequels mm-hmm all right uh oh yeah it [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► wasn't the incomparable you won't hear [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► more about that I would have probably [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► didn't hit a dollar show to it if we had [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► not had that in copper but we did but so [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► do you feel people should just go and [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► listen that if they if they want in that [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► get leave Z room to stretch out this [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► episode that's right because I grab lots [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► of other things to discuss here so this [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► this next bit is follow-up but kind of [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► also the half topic for this show and [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► that is more about apples fusion drive [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► stuff we talked about last week mostly [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► just speculation because all we had to [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► go on was vague sort of slides in a [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► presentation and a couple of fact I [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► Tamannaah post uh but no nitty-gritty [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► technical details about the thing and [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► last week my guesses were that this was [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► implemented with course storage ah and I [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► mentioned on the show like Korra storage [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► has been around since the lion and you [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► could as of even lion just make two [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► disks and join them together into a [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► single volume and I mentioned I was [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► trying to do a demo like [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► for my lion review but it wasn't quite [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► working i was using disk images and it [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► was really buggy and stuff like that but [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► I that capability has been there in the [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► man page for you know disk your till [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► since 10-7 as I said you can do that [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► today you know just far as I presumably [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► it's less buggy now but I didn't [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► understand how that would how to square [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that all with course start with uh with [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► fusion drive because fusion drive was [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► always described in terms of like oh and [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► these applications we use them alot will [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► end up on the SSD but this stuff you [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► know they talk about applications and [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► files but course storage works at the [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► block level it's not at the file level [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► so I didn't understand in Mike well [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► course towards just an umbrella term [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► they could have just implemented [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► something new that shuttles files back [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► and forth and works at the file level [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► and even though it's called core storage [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► it's not the same as the you know the [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► block based logical volume manager thing [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► that they use her foul ball to you know [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► we just didn't know because it wasn't [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► enough technical details released well [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► since last week someone named Patrick [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► Stein or jolly jinx on Twitter put up a [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► series of posts on his tumblr where he [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► did just want to describe last week [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► which is all right let me just take [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► course storage disk utility to disks [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► together into a single volume only what [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► he did was he took out my two discs [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► selling a drawing one is going to be an [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► SSD and one is it gonna be spinning disk [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► so I'm making my own fusion drive now [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► the underlying assumption for all these [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► posts is that what he's doing here with [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► disk utility core storage is what fusion [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► drive is uh and unless he has some [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► information that I don't or rather I [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► didn't really before during this week [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► he's just assuming they're like okay [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► well course storage is a fusion drives [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► gotta be done with course storage and [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► many that was my assumption as well and [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► basically more or less got that [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► confirmed from Apple but that doesn't [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► mean anything because like I said core [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► storage could be an umbrella term and so [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► and so forth and the reason I was so [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► skeptical of this being what Fusion [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► Drive is is because like I said [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► everything they described about fusion [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► drive was like oh it moves your files [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► for one place the other all your [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► applications or someplace else it never [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► talked about like you know blocked base [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► wear something you know just the disks [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► blocks that you read or on half on one [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► thing and half on the other like [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► block-based doesn't mean file system [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► blocks like 4k blocks and doesn't mean [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► disk blocks like you know sectors and [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► blocks it means the units of storage [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► that are managed by cora storages [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► logical volume manager and they have [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► nothing to do with file boundaries right [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► there just implementing it a block [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► storage device and the file system goes [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► on top of that but those the core [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► storage blocks it's shuffling around [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► have no idea what files they belong to [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► like you know they could span files and [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► stuff like that that's that they're [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► there just presenting a block device so [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► that didn't seem to square at all with [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► something that moves files and [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► applications around and it certainly [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► didn't square with the idea that as of [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► lying you could make a volume at of two [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► other things and put stuff on it but [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► Korra storage does the thing where I [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► move stuff from one to the other like it [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► reshuffle stuff based on usage in like [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► well surely course storage doesn't do [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► that like why would it be moving stuff [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► back and forth but the thing is as of [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► lime when I was playing with this it [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► there's a couple possibilities one is [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► that back then all core storage did was [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► you know join two physical disks [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► together into a single volume and put [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► some you know some data and one some [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► date on the other but it didn't like [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► move stuff around based on usage that's [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► one possibility the other possibility is [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► that it did move stuff based around [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► based on your usage and I just never [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► noticed because who would have think [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► thought to look for that because like a [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► logical volume manager like that wasn't [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► a selling point it wasn't in the man [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► page four different ill course storage [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► like maybe it was moving stuff and we [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► didn't even know right uh so in this [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► experiment that the Patrick did is he [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► did that he's got the little command [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► lines up here but if you do man disk you [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► till you can look at the core storage [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► section now disk utility s create you [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► know a logical volume group and he makes [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► it out of two disks an SSD in a spinning [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► disk and then he creates a volume on [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► that new you know he's now created what [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► looks like a single disk but has really [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► made up of two physicalist and he [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► creates a volume on and they just says [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► make a volume make a journaled hfs+ make [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► it 500 gigs and this is okay fine now [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► you've got a volume and underneath it [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► are two physical things now the next [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► things he did was he's trying to [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► determine okay is this what fusion disk [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► is so he's using DD and observation of [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► data transfer speeds to say okay I'm [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► going to write enough data where I know [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► this couldn't possibly all fit on the [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► SSD so he write some more you know more [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► than enough data and it's now it should [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► be spilling over into the hard drive and [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► he does a series of experiments with [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► reads and writes of files [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► and if he gets like you know 200 [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► megabytes a second it reads he's like oh [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► that's coming from the SSD but if he [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► gets a lower read rate he's like oh [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► that's coming from the hard drive [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► because they really are vastly different [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► rates and he has tried to experimentally [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► prove to himself by eliminating things [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► like disk caching and stuff like that [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► but unmounting the drive to clear the [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► disk cache that something you know he's [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► determined okay these files are on the [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► SSD and these files are on on the [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► spinning disk and then he would see [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► after he stopped doing his activity the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► disk activity would still be going on [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► behind the scenes because like Quora [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► storage and his estimation was moving [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► stuff and then he would do in a [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► subsequent tests and say oh now that's [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► not that I was accessing that was slow [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► before you know something behind the [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► scenes has put that onto the SSD [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► physical volume and now when I read from [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► those exact same things it's fast ah so [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► he's sort of experimentally determining [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► that plain old core storage that you [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► just make a logical volume out of two [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► physical volumes it's moving stuff [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► around based on your activity so that [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► that was an important point to saying [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► that this is what this is what fusion [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► drive is uh the next bit was like the [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► question of okay well you know is it [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► block based or file based because again [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► all the descriptions you know that the [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► marketing descriptions are like all [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► about files and applications but core [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► storage you know logical volume [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► management is working with you know [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► blocks that did don't have that aren't [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► the same thing they don't respect file [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► and they're independent of file [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► boundaries right because you're putting [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► a file system on top of this block [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► storage this virtual block storage [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► device right so then he was trying to [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► say okay I won't read or write entire [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► files I'll read and write just like the [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► first megabyte of a big file and he saw [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► the like just reading writing that first [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► megabyte would cause just that first [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► megabyte to go on to the SSD like you [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► know course towards remove them over [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► there so their support for the idea that [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► this arrangement of volumes and course [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► storage moves data and doesn't move [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► entire files it just moves blocks which [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► makes perfect sense in terms of the wake [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► or storage works and the final thing [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► they tribe was like okay can I make this [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► logical volume group out of to a logical [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► volume out of two physical volumes and [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► formatted as something other than H of S [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► Plus so he formatted a ZFS like he's got [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► this logic volume looks like just an [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► unusual eyes hard disk is really made up [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► of two hardest behind the scenes and he [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► you know dizzy pool [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► create blah blah and he's got ZFS on top [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► of it which again makes sense if it's [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► has nothing to do with files what it [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► shouldn't care what file system on top [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► it was just was just working with blocks [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► and again he did his tests and saw that [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► after he stopped messing with the file [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► system I owed activity continued he said [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► it always kept going for like 10 minutes [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► were copy stuff and he didn't know if 10 [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► minutes was like a fixed limit I think [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► it's just because that's how long it [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► took to move the amount of data he had [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► fiddled with and then he did a read [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► after that and like all of a sudden the [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► data he'd been reading before is now [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► coming back much faster because him it's [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► been moved to the SSD so he's using this [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► as evidence that core storage is you [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► know works at the block level just like [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► full disk encryption uh and has nothing [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► to do with the file system its file [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► system diagnostic and that what he was [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► doing in his experiment here again he's [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► doing this not unlike a fancy new iMac [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► and not on one of the new mac man he's [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► just on a random mac that happens to be [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► running 10 8 2 i'm assuming right that [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► this is what core storage is and [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► everyone else who passed these stories [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► around assumed as well as I hey cor [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► storage on your Mac you can do coerced [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► or not core storage fusion drive on your [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► Mac you can do fusion drive on any Mac [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► you'll be fine you can put external [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► drives until you can do anything you [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► want the underlying assumption that this [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► is how fusion drive works well in late [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► breaking news which Mark who could not [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► possibly have had what do you think of [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► that Lee hutchinson of ours who's [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► written a couple of articles in fusion [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► drive and who has one of the new mac [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► minis with the fusion drive option [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► moments before the show began pulled out [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► his mac mini with Fusion Drive and ran a [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► couple of commands for me and got the [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► output of it so when he just runs disk [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► you to list what it shows is dev disk 0 [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► disk 1 and just to disk 0 has a whole [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► bunch of different sections that's got [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► the g yd partitioner map efi and then [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► it's got apple core storage and apple [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► boot OS 10 disc 1 is 1 terabyte volume [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► it's got the g yd partition thing efi [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► core storage and the recovery hard drive [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► and dev disc 2 is the macintosh HD and [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► it is a 1 point 1 terabyte disk and that [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► one point 1 terabyte disk you can [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► surmise by knowing the amount of [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► physical storage that's installed [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► here there's only a one terabyte [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► spinning disk and a 128 gig SSD so how [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► could there ever be a volume that's 1.1 [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► terabytes well that's your fusion drive [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► dev just two is the fusion drive made up [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► with loathing so you see you know it's [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► still got the recovery a hard disk [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► partition I'm assuming that's carved out [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► of the spinning disk and it's got the [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► little you know boot OS 10 partition [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► thing for going in recovery mode when he [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► does info on disk 0 which was the the [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► one that just has the Apple boot thing [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► it says no file system on it at all is [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► that it's an apple the device is the [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► Apple SSD it's got a new volume name and [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► no file system on it all when it doesn't [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► on disk one which was the one terabyte [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► spinning disk thing you know this is [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► apple HD blah blah blah no file system [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► on it at all not mounted when he runs it [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► on just to dev just to says though this [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► is Mac another HD it's jerald hfs+ [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► volume and it's you know at one point [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► one terabytes in size this is the [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► logical volume that's been created out [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► of those two physical things so to [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► answer the question we had last week of [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► what would happen if you pulled out the [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► SSD or pulled out the other thing and we [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► just put one of the things in the output [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► of disk you till here on this actual [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► fusion drive Mack says those things [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► which show up is having no file system [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► whatsoever like you would say this disks [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► uninitialized do you want me I'm [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► assuming it would say that because it [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► doesn't even have a file system on it as [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► far as the computer is concerned it just [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► looks like you know random garbage only [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► Deb disc 2 which is the logical I'm [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► shows up as an actual volume with the [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► size that couldn't possibly exist on any [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► single disc with that's you know that's [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► what we thought so when he does discute [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► LCS lists and lists the output of the [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► core storage out but shows one logical [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► volume group with two physical volumes [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► got the you know the SSD on the physical [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► disk one logical volume family and out [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► of that has made one logical volume [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► called Macintosh HD that's you know that [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► ends up being disk too ah and this [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► exactly matches the output of the stuff [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► that Oh Patrick Stein was doing he is [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► his output of his logical volume groups [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► in the physical volume stuff like that [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► it looks like this so this is pretty [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► conclusive evidence that what Patrick [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► was doing is what fusion drive is and [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► you know unless I mean the only thing we [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► don't know is how did Apple create this [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► core storage volume is there some new [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► special flag that they added to say i'll [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► make this fusion drive thing it seems [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► like there probably isn't because [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► Patrick didn't use any special flag that [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► says you know join these two discs into [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► a single logical volume oh and by the [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► way do that thing where you watch how [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► much I use them in shuffle data around [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► like it seems like that happens no [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► matter what so this is some finally some [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► actual concrete technical information [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► about how this stuff works I would [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► discourage people from immediately [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► following it firing up the terminal and [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► running man to scoop tail and figure out [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► how to do this themselves unless you're [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► doing on like a scratch Mac with disks [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► you don't care about because it is very [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► easy to accidentally hose yourself when [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► using tools like this none of this is [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► being done by the GUI this is all [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► command line stuff you have to know you [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► know device numbers and it's very easy [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► to get confused about what Deb disk 0 [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and disk 1 are and stuff like that and [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► just end up hosing yourself so i would [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► not recommend that you run out and do [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► this the one question that i had for lee [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► that he wasn't able to check it before [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► the show was if you use these [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► command-line utility a Drake did and [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► make yourself your own fusion drive add [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► a couple of specialist two questions one [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► is can you make a few here I've out of [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► like seven discs and I see no reason why [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► you couldn't because the whole point of [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► course storage is you could just add [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► physical volumes on there it doesn't [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► just have to be to right and the second [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► question is say you make your own little [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► fusion drive can you boot from is there [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► anything special you have to do to boot [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► from it so say I had my mac pro here and [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► I took two hard drives to let's say to [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► external hard drives and I joined them [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► into a fusion drive and I installed OS [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► 10 on it can I boot from basically boot [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► from to external hard drives and same [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► question for internal what if i use to [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► internal drives in a game though can i [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► boot from that obviously the mac mini [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► can boot from it but there may be some [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► weird procedure be like we're really [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► it's booting off like the recovery [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► partition and the curry partition is [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► looking at nvram or some other setting [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► and seeing okay well I'm really supposed [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► to boot from this other one and it [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► switches over like what is the bootstrap [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► procedure when all the attached disks [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► appear to have no file systems on them [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► like it's all it's all happening in [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► software so that's still an unanswered [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► question but I think that's the surprise [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► this week is that you know good old core [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► storage [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► they're all along or at least as of ten [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► 82 is doing this magical file moving [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► stuff and nobody knew it and so you know [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► before those imacs were announced you [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► could have in theory made your own [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► fusion drive and got these interesting [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► performance characteristics out of it [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► before I believe in announce this may be [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► the first time that Apple is shipping [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► something as a headlining feature in a [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► keynote it was really on all of our [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► discs oh no while we're watching it [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► creepy huh yeah i'm i'm not about to go [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► and try to experiment this myself [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► because I do have four internal hard [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► drives and one external on this thing [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► and then a couple of spare mechanisms [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► hanging around as well with no ways to [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► put them ah but they're all filled with [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► stuff so I don't really have time to [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► play so I would still recommend for [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► everyone who doesn't have a spare [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► machine spare drives to mess around with [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► only use Fusion Drive in its supported [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► configuration on the machines that say [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► they supported in the ways that are [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► supported Haitian your nerd you want to [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► you want to play around then i would say [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► fire up the terminal and type man space [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► disk you till all onward and scroll [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► until you see the section about course [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► storage and go to town and good luck [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► good night and good luck yes skj Haley [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► says in Shiro what could possibly go [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► wrong Yeah right what me worry you know [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► look possibly go wrong as you will wipe [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► your entire disk oops yeah be careful [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► guys that will never happen alright get [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► another sponsor I have two more I will [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► do lynda.com now they are an online [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► learning company with more than 77,000 [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► video tutorials they teach you things [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► like how to program they teach you [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► things like how to design they teach [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► tons and tons of things that you thought [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► maybe weren't teachable but they are [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► teachable web design programming [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► photography business audio video 3d [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► animation you name it they're adding new [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► courses every week the training like a [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► library and like Gary keeps pace with [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► today's fast-changing technical and [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► software skills you name it they've got [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► a course on it i love screencasting I've [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► done screencasting and I've learned a [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► lot from screencasting they have a [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► membership this is how it works you pay [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► 25 bucks per month you get unlimited 24 [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► by 7 access [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► to all of their video courses and these [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► things are taught by expert instructors [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► they're taught by people who know what [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► they're doing real world experts come [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► and they bust out of course go to [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► linda.com and spelled ly NDA Linda calm [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► / 5 by 5 you get a free 7 day trial [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► where you get access to tons and tons [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► and tons of stuff and you support the [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► show Linda calm / 5 by 5 it's a great [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► way to learn and they do really really [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► great work go check him out Linda that's [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► it that's all spot yeah I had some other [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► technical details Fusion Drive that was [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► in my head and now it it has departed me [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► oh yeah I guess there's despite all this [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► evidence a lot of it still seems [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► circumstantial to me in particular like [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► this this sort of trying to observe [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► course storage moving data from one [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► place to the other and experimentally [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► determining it by looking at the [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► transfer rates and the fact that [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► activity is going on with the mechanisms [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► even when you're not doing any like [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► that's ninety-nine point nine percent [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► sure but I would still really love a [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► real technical document or something [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► like straight from Apple's mouth like [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► this is how it works this is what [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► happens this is the underlying you know [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► implementation details of it instead of [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► having us to do all this guesswork stuff [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► I would still prefer that so but it [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► seems to me that all this is on the [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► right track and this is how it's done [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► and this much much less confusing now I [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► less confusing than their explanation [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► now now that it's like you know so its [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► core storage but you keep talking about [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► files and apps makes no sense now makes [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► so much more sense and and in hindsight [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► it makes sense that Apple said it is [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► Apple's not going to talk about managing [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► blocks of storage they're going to say [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► files and applications because that's [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► what people care about it they don't [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► really care that it could be that only [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► the first megabyte of that application [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► is on the SSD because only the first [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► megabyte of it is the thing that ever [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► gets rich or something like that yeah so [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► does it say in the chat room yes wdc you [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► next year presumably they'll talk about [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► this if only to brag because really it [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► probably has very few practical and blue [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► implications for people writing software [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► for OS 10 but they do tend to like you [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► know look at this cool thing that we did [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► everybody and they'll talk about it [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► there maybe there's like one or two new [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► API is about how to handle Fusion Drive [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► things and I use an excuse to have 17 [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► slides about the implementation of [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► fusion drive [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► I will enjoy that at least least I hope [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► they do all right so my main topic for [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► today oh is 41 minutes in can you guess [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► George Lucas and the now we already did [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► that ipad mini I would have interrogated [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► you about drive that many if you had one [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► but you don't it's still on the vehicle [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► for delivery you failed me for the last [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► time I'm pollen job but no today I'm [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► gonna talk about the Apple executive [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► reshuffle forestall is out yes i have is [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► ian sure been the title of their press [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► release yes so the actual title of their [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► press release was apple announces [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► changes to increase collaboration across [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► hardware software and services and they [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► do this weird thing where there's an [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► ampersand between software and services [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► so i'm assuming software ampersand [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► services is a single thing that is a [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► unit yeah anyway uh just kind of [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► euphemistic business doublespeak because [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► you know whenever a company announces [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► something that happened to them that [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► they didn't really plan for or that's [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► like could be interpreted as bad news [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► they are not direct with the the [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► headline yeah I mean yeah like they took [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► it's not like they trying to hide it but [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► their spin doctoring it as you would say [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► yeah at least in the title like they're [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► not gonna say we've just fired a really [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► important executive who's done you know [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► like that that's that's the headline the [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► wheel get from like you said forestall [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► out that could have been the two word [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► title of this thing and in fact was the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► the the URL of Gruber space with a [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► reference and a little bit for stall out [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► like that is the headline piece of [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► amanda berry they bury the headline [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► under we're going to increase [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► collaboration and people are going to [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► take the responsibilities and by the way [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► we fired this dude right and this is a [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► buried that in there right so I think [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► was like in the first paragraph but but [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► it was like apple also announced like in [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► addition to what we just told you about [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► these people get new responsibilities [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► apple also announced the Scott fallstowe [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► will be leaving next year and will serve [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► as adviser to CEO Tim Cook's nicely they [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► could do it in november so they can say [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► next year so it seems like i'll be [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► leaving but all the notes that's a month [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► right you know hilton [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► leaving next year I guess he could leave [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► anytime next year but it seems to me [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► people keep saying oh well Scott far so [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► we'll be there for another year now no [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► talking there talk in January one or the [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► stroke of midnight on January fun right [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► and and that's the interesting like when [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► you reach a certain pay grade when [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► you're working for the man or what is [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► here what is your expression corporate [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► decision that's you you're the you're a [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► corporate stooge I am my total am uh but [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► when you reach a certain level in [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► American corporations they'll they bend [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► over backwards to preserve the or that [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► you are an important good person who [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► should not be publicly insulted or [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► whatever right so if you're just like a [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► regular rank-and-file employee uh they [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► lay you off because the factory's [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► closing or something and you just get [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► laid off and all the stories about your [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► like these people got laid off if you [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► are a rank-and-file employee and you get [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► fired because people don't like you or [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► like fired with cause or something like [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► that you got fine you got yeah you got [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► fired like there's never any press [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► releases associated but there was that [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► if someone calls and say what happened [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► to blah blah blah like something you [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► could try to apply for next job and [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► someone calls up your old company so [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► yeah we fired him because you know uh he [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► was sexually harassing people or he was [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► always he stole out of the register oh [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► yeah he's still out of the register or [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► he never showed up on time or like they [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► say that they fired you but if once you [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► pass some certain threshold nobody will [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► ever say that they fired you even [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► they'll have a press release about and [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► they won't say we're firing Scott [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► Forstall they'll just never say it like [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► you know but everybody knows because if [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► you were leaving on good terms the press [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► release looks very different like we're [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► very sad to see like the Burt Ron so [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► late when he left he's done such great [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► things for us and we're sad to see him [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► go and he's leaving and it's totally [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► clear that he's he's leaving of his own [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► accord he's not being fired and there's [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► a middle ground more like you're kind of [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► being forced out or encouraged to retire [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► whatever but this one reads like this is [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► what happened this is what a firing [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► looks like here when you're when you're [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► a multimillionaire Ryan you're a [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► multi-millionaire this is how you get [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► fired they never say you're fired like [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► cuz they just don't want to don't want [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► to hurt your feelings I'm and I think [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► that's not necessarily a bad thing it's [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► not like I'm saying he should say he was [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► fired just like they do for the peons I [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► think if anything the river should be [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► true that [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► peons should get the same kind of [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► respect and kind of like you know you [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► don't have to be so rude about it just [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► because they're an underling and are [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► multi-millionaires and aren't powerful [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► everyone should get this kind of [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► treatment that's I'm not I don't think [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► it's unfair that it's got forestalls [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► firing is spoken about euphemistically [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► think they should they should do this to [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► everybody unless of course you did [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► something horrible like set fire to the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► building or you know whatever then they [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► can be more honest but I you know from [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► this announcement it appears that Scott [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► Forstall was fired like he did not [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► willingly go and the changes are Johnny [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► I will provide leadership in the [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► direction and direction for human [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► interface across the company in addition [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► to his role as leader industrial design [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► Eddy Cue is taking over Syrian maps in [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► addition to all the other stuff that he [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► does like iTunes map store and I [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► bookstore and iCloud federighi who was [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► in chart Craig federighi was in charge [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► of OS 10 is now also in charge of iOS [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► which was forced all sold job at Bob [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► Mansfield who had previously retired but [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► then came back is now going to be in [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► charge of the heat coming out before all [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► of this right yes he left before and he [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► came back before it but now he is being [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► assigned this new responsibility for the [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► technology group how much before had he [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► come back do you recall was it a couple [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► months or what I have a timeline later [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► in the night I apologize so we will get [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► to it yes I know you can't see my nuts [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► uh yeah and and additionally I think [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► this is I think this is in the order it [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► wasn't in the end of thing additionally [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► oh and by the way before we get out of [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► this spreadsheet John Brown is out is [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► leaving Apple that's what they say again [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► fired right he he's not leaving apple of [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► his own accord he didn't retire he [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► hasn't you know oh it's been a great run [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► here for the past seven years at Apple [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► but now I'm ready to try new things now [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► he was there for like six months now [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► he's out and a search for a new head of [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► retails underway he was the guy who [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► replaced Ron Johnson is the guy [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► responsible for the Apple stores and now [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► they're looking for new replacement [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► alright so that's the summary of the [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► news and now I want to dive into it in [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► more detail where we'll get to all those [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► dates and names and stuff like that ah [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► but as we said before the gist of this [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► like on the web you know where they cut [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► through all the BS and say there's a big [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► press release a bunch of things happen [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► in this press release but the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► headline the lead of this story is [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► forced all-out forestalls gone right and [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► and he's been fired and we all see that [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► that's you know that's clearly what [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► happened and all the stories have been [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► about what happened that this guy who's [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► been with Apple for so long and been in [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► charge of such important things how did [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► he get fire what did he do what was the [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► cause for firing naps and you know and [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► yes they're not if the nut if they're [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► not even gonna say he was fired they're [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► not gonna list in the press release what [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► he did if John for still goes to get [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► another job somewhere that that person [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► won't be able to call apple and say why [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► should you guys fire him was you know [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► can you tell they're never gonna say [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► that certainly not gonna say it in the [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► press release but all the stories have [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► been about that and we've all read the [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► stories maps you brought that up uh Siri [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► skeuomorphic design yeah uh and and but [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► the big one I see us at the undercurrent [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► of everything is like personality stuff [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► of like he was mean he didn't get along [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► with people he took credit for things [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► that you know that there weren't his [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► like all sorts of interpersonal stuff [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► about how you know like personality [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► issues not some like in other words the [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► ID since that Kurt runs underneath [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► everything it's like well yeah he had [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► problems with all these things and there [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► have been some issues with with products [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► but you know the real reason is cuz like [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► there was some sort of personality [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► conflict and people didn't like him or [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► whatever um and what I have to say about [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► all all that the entire idea is that [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► there's it's you can't talk about [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► Forrestal leaving Apple with any actual [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► knowledge or authority because basically [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► nobody actually knows what happened I [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► know all these stores in New York Times [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► and Wall Street Journal have like [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► sources close to or app people involved [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► there up employees and stuff like that [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► uh but i think it's and then like all [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► these articles will say we talked to [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► sources close to her and they said that [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► this person couldn't be in the same room [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► with that person and they had sort of [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► personality conflicts and blah blah and [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► then the rest of the article proceeds as [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► if the you know they make these [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► confident assertions well we have a [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► source or two sources and they say this [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► and therefore and then the whole rest [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► the article uses those assertions as [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► premises given this information that [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► we've already told you from these [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► sources which you will now serve as a [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► hundred percent true now let's discuss [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► what that means right and I don't think [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► that's a useful way to reason about this [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► because I don't think you could have any [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► confidence in in the assertions of your [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► sources about why he was fired as well [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► Shipley was saying on Twitter the other [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► day uh he he was fired from you know [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► forced out of or whatever because he was [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► he was at that level where you don't [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► stay fired but he himself said fire from [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► Omni group the famous next and then Mac [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► os10 software group that he co-founded [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► uh and he said I don't know why I was [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► fired found a group all he knows is his [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► side of the story even if you were to [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► ask scott forstall why do you think you [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► were fired you're still not gonna get [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► the whole story there because no single [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► person probably it's certainly no single [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► person who's not like tim cook or scott [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► first well maybe you got both of them [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► combined you could figure it out uh but [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► like as they say history is written by [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► the winners and that's definitely true [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► when it comes to corporate press [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► releases and corporate politics uh you [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► know it when you see stories leaked [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► intentionally leaked or not about oh he [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► had personality conflicts or whatever [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► those are the people who want and it's [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► got Forrestal to be gone and they're [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► gonna sell their side of the story is [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► not necessarily the objective truth of [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► course they're gonna say bad things [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► about him because they wanted him to go [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► but who's to say they're right in that [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► conflict we don't have any visibility [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► into the internal stupid personal [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► political situation inside Apple and you [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► just can't go by the things you hear [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► from people inside Apple because most [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► likely you are hearing from the people [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► who wanted him to go he doesn't get a [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► fair shot in that he he doesn't have any [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► say in the corporate communication about [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► it he doesn't get to influence who's [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► going to be in all these stories so I [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► think it's completely unfair to Scott [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► Forstall to assume that all those [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► stories about his personality are are [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► true and in any way really like because [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► it's just it's a complete and balanced [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► and a complete communication failure and [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► again i would say who got forced forced [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► all in person to be on this show and [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► interview him his side of it isn't [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► necessarily true it's somewhere in the [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► middle there right so I'm not interested [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► thinking about or dwelling on why it is [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► that he was forced out of the company [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► but I think there are lots of things we [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► can talk about about this change without [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► really caring why it happened [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► necessarily I mean we can look at you [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► know possible things that could have [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► contributed to basically I'm resigned to [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► never knowing and really don't care that [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► much about what is it that made this [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► they brought this over the edge what [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► made it go from some sort of internal [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► problem to the solutions this problem is [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► to get rid of force though does that [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► does that make sense yes and I'm I don't [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► know like I tried to put myself in the [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► shoes of one of these multi-millionaire [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► executives he's mean just jump right [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► into that you can get into that yeah cuz [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► I wouldn't want like if you were Scott [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► for the forest all the press has not [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► been fair to him I feel like I mean [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► maybe you know maybe like in his [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► autobiography come combined with like an [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► apple tell-all history like 10 years now [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► we'll start to get a picture of but now [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► you're not gonna so it's not useful to [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► uh to think about that so let me back [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► way up and take a look at this [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► reshuffling without trying to care so [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► much about personalities and stuff like [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► that ok let's look at let's look at the [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► the Tim Cook era of Apple such as it did [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► so far so when Tim Cook took over a CEO [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► is Apple and this was before Steve Jobs [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► died because he he sort of handed over [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► the reins as he left the company Apple [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► was on a hell of a winning streak at [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► that point and so cooks job first and [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► foremost was to keep a good thing going [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► right I and that's what everybody said [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► when the transfer of power happened it's [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► like they broke don't fix it oh okies [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► here you know don't mess anything up man [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► cuz like you know they're going [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► gangbusters everything everything was [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► roses iphone [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► had like you know just everything Steve [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► Jobs had done in his past you know it [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► last few projects would have been just [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► all all thumbs up everyone was loving it [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► great things were happening uh and all [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► the reassuring statements either about [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► Apple or from Apple we're like don't [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► worry Tim's gonna do just what Steve was [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► doing like yeah you know he's gonna be [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► his own man someone so forth but he's [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► not gonna screw up at stuff that Steve [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► day because we understand like you know [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► don't be afraid he's not gonna suddenly [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► decide that Apple's gonna go into you [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► know the health food business uh and [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► this is despite the fact that Jobs [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► himself insisted that cook should make [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► his own decisions about Apple like I put [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► a link in the show notes to our [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► technical articles course when I was [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► saying you know don't don't ask it jobs [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► who say don't ask yourself what I would [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► you just do what it is right you know [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► that's Steve Jobs own advice but [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► everyone else in the world is like yeah [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► ignore was steve said do what he would [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► do just do it he would do it because [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► everything he did was awesome and you [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► just got to keep doing that at least in [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► the short term so it's like all of us [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► out here on the outside totally wanted [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► Tim Cook to just be uh to be like I'd [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► proxy Steve Jobs like make make us feel [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► like Steve Jobs it isn't really gone and [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► then when he died same thing like just [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► Tim just do what Steve would do [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► disregard everything do what Steven dude [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► except that part where he told you not [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► to do what he would do do everything [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► except that um and that's what he wanted [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► you know that's what we all wanted on [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► the outside like no customers investors [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► everybody who is wanted that was like [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► just don't screw this up man because [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► it's been so awesome right and so what [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► that means is that cook didn't come in [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► on his first day CEO like clean house at [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► the executive level you didn't go okay [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► now I'm the new boss in charge steve is [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► out and I'm making some changes I'm [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► gonna redecorate I'm gonna change [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► everything here he did not do that and [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► that is very common for like when a new [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► CEO comes into a company look at like [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► the other tech companies which are [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► incredibly dysfunctional and terrible [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► but like you know get every every new [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► CEO that's come into HP and further [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► screwed up or even apples olds [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► executives they come in and say things [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► are gonna change around this place like [TS]