00:00:00 ◼ ► when I touch you you move the cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► this is hypercritical a weekly talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► remaining on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► so perfect that it cannot be annihilated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► by my co-host John Siracusa I'm Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/17">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► Benjamin today is Friday October 26 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/21">TS</a>]
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00:00:52 ◼ ► in the business how do I know because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► use them and if you downloaded the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► you used them check them out at cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► flow calm and let them know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► heard about it here on five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► hello John Siracusa how are you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► fine friday afternoon or morning really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► I'm just fine good sound good today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► would you change nothing okay got stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► to talk about today don't say that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► follow-up and then we'll dive into what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► must be discussed okay last show we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► talked about microsoft surface for a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► and there was one point that i had in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► notes that i somehow missed when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► discussing the memory size of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► the surface versus the potential ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► and stuff like that sure and how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► surface start at 32 I believe anyway um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► the the salient point that I was missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► is that someone interviewed I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► was actually on a reddit I am one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► those interview things someone from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/114">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► surface team is interviewed there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/115">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► they're asking how big like the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► install is on the surface and apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► the surface uses 12 gigs for the OS or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► something like that how really so on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► 32 gig model you know you got you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► nothing you got 21 20 20 left all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► if you can imagine a 16 gig if iOS took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► up that much room a 16 gig ipad would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► that really be a four gig ipad so iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► seems to have a big advantage in OS size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► and that actually should factor in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► when you buy like one of these devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► 16 gigs 32 gig or whatever you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► all that space you know it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/149">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► come pre-installed with apps and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► assumed it like yeah mostly it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► free right but in the case of windows 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► on the surface be aware that it may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► little bit bigger than you think and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► final bit here is from jared williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► who notes that the Microsoft service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► Microsoft stores not in traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► retail stores like best buy and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/172">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► news to me that's interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/173">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► they're not even bother selling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► through a reseller this could be a move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► to promote their own stores it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► something to make a third-party tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► makers feel better oh hey we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► competing with you guys you'll you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► would result in our own stores and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► these little kiosks in the mall but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► know we're not going to try to compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► with you in the big box retailers so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► not sure with the strategy is there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► it's interesting that's all the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/196">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► that's it one video I didn't go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► and do all my right I have a bunch more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► follow-up but I figure have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/204">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► things to talk about on this show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► follow-up otherwise the thing would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/208">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► long as I have fall upon the f-15 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► all sorts of other stuff but no time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► it today ok so today we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► about the apple event that happened was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► it yesterday day before Tuesday it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► on Tuesday yeah the 23rd the 23rd of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► October 2012 yeah and there was a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► this event a lot more than many of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► thought they would be I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► order you want to discuss things in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► my notes there in the order that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/240">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► were presented I like I like that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► that because i actually think some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► them will have more to say about then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► than others and then if we go in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► order that they went then people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► follow along by watching and pause it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► know if that's going to happen but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/255">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► predicted for the the previous event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► didn't show ran this this time it showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/271">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► up Oh are you surprised when you fun it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/272">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► showed up or you're like a Pepsi I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► it was gonna be well I mean I'd heard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► had heard the rumors leading up again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► this one I I mean what's interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/283">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► for a while there Apple was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► product specific events and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► have and famously the iphone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► they would have a specific product they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► did it with the iphone they did with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► ipad and I it's interesting that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/302">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► announcements at this one and what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► also interesting was he they even talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► about I want to get too far ahead of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► but they even talked about like the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► Mini which really just received just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► little bit of a speed bump in storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► bump and there was really nothing much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► announced it so I don't know to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► would that was a little interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► I I think they just had the 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► ready so they announced it so I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► really surprised um but I think I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/337">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► like it was overdue I felt like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► wanted to announce it last time and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► some reason maybe supply or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► couldn't yeah that tension between like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► those two kinds of events that it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► to be like when they were at macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/352">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► expo and in WABC in some respects is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► like oh they'll there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► smorgasbord of stuff here it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► special events that you're right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► started doing these things where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► like this is going to be all about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/362">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► whatever and even if they have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► stuff to announce they be like our we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/366">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► not going to talk about on stage will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/367">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► silently bump it or maybe they'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► it one slide briefly but this felt more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► like an old Mac world keynote where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► just they had a whole bunch of stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► they sort of built to the one the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► one that they wanted to talk about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► the other things that came before were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/381">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► not insignificant I mean if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► about this announcement versus the wwc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► keynote this year they were similar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► volume maybe there was even more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► hardware-wise anyway not software that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► also why it felt like an old one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/394">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► the old ones used to be like all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► hardware at least in the beginning when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► their software wasn't really anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► they wanted to brag about the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► of the jobs to our before Mac os10 had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► sort of settled in so the 13-inch I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/405">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► it's what we expected it's the it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► the 15-inch retina macbook pro but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/410">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► thinner the screen is smaller there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► some disappointing aspects of it some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► the chat room is already complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► about the fact that the eight gigs ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► is the max that you can get on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► thing which is really is kind of like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► that a pro that is that a macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► you know it seems like you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► double-checking this like I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► you know configure your macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► 13-inch on the store and I must I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► going to the wrong page that let me see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/439">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► me see if that's actually the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► because I have trouble even believing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► this no I don't that Ram option no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/446">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► like a sealed I've got this thing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► and I'm looking at it now there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► macbook pro with retina display and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/455">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► that's when you got a macbook pro let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► see what you can do if you buy now I now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/462">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► 13 inch yeah look at that yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/467">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► accessories but nothing about ram and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► you know obviously it's soldered onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► the board and Rayla stuff like it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► 30 inch but 15 inch gave you a choice 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► or 16 right the 13 inch here it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/482">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► gigahertz speed and then at the 2.9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► gigahertz it which is 1499 it is eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► gigs and that's that's it numbers gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/495">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► now are you looking at the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► yeah i'm looking at the right thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► four gigs hang on no come on i'll hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► on a click the wrong one you take eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► gigs on both of them yeah you're right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► was looking at the non right now sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► alright 1699 1999 with Retina Display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► eight gigs both can't configure yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► that and that is that is disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► like I'm happy that all the minimums are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► now eight but I'm not happy that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► maximum is eight on this thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► really thin it's about point seven five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► inches which is like twenty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► thinner than the old one right the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► interesting about is really light like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► 3.5 pounds they lost a pound like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► starting to push down into not into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► macbook air territory quite yet but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► starts to change how that machine feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► like we're all waiting around for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► retina MacBook garum and as we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► on past shows my theory as to why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► can't do that is because it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► enough room and it's getting a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► package for a battery big enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► power retina display so don't get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► sorted out eventually but while while we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► wait if you you know pump a little iron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► this 13-inch MacBook Pro could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► reasonable proxy / 13 inch macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► it's not super light and super skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► like the air is but still I bet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► crosses some threshold from feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► you're hanging around a big brick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► feeling like you're carrying around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► something that's pretty thin a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► even the 15 inch now 15 ish feels too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► much like a lunch tray to to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► feel like it's small but this one this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► looks like a really nice machine except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► for the RAM thing yep USB 3 is now going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► everywhere on the Mac line so this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► is you know it's going to Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► ports USB 3 the dual mics which they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► also throwing everywhere on the line i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► guess for mountain lions dictation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► features i can do noise cancellation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► stuff to make the speech better not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► microphones are super high quality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► they're actually in kind of a weird spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/608">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► on the side of the machine but to Mike's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► is better than one and hdmi out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► all the modern things we expect it mazes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/615">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► me kind of that the SD card slot keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► hanging on you know like they never put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► CF slots and their thing so just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► picked a winner it's like OSD I don't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► is SD like the big giant winner in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► camera space like who's using SD cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► people with cameras I don't see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► people using them like we see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/635">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► using USB thumb drives as they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► little solid-state storage they carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► around ah but I was under the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► at least last time I was looking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► this that CF is still has some reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► for pro people to use it and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► macbook pro but anyway it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► surprising to me but surprisingly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► SD card slot slot started to appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► max it's kind of surprising to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► they continue to be there because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► is so ruthless about removing ports that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► no firewire or anything on this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► fire wire is done we've got sundar bolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► now and USB 3 God every time I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/666">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► these machines I think about the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► that you could buy which does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► USB 3 does not have Thunderbolt that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► depressing alright the retina display is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► exactly what you saw just a double the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► old display 2560 by 1600 and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/683">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► say like I've seen lots of 15 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► retinas a friend of mine at work had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► SAT right next to me for a while so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► look it is and I've seen a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► other ones and that really is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► nice screen like you've seen it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► like you said is the only screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► actually give you eye strain desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► laptop anything and I'm I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► that screen it has all the aspects of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► that that I wish the desktops is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► everywhere we all complain well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► retina is has far less glare the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► ones it doesn't have the glass over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► top of it and I don't know if it has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► anti-glare coating this one I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► does but if there's less glare like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► on the 50 inch there's just less glare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► there's no air gap between some glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► thing covering the display it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► does look like the pixels are up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► surface they said that about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► laminated that thing and I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► see it there but I see it on the 15-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► macbook pro retina I'm assuming you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► see it on the 13 as well the downside to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► that is the durability issue is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► scary if you drop your keys on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► screen of your old macbook pro and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► scratches that glass they can replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► that front glass for you but if you drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► your keys on the screen of one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► retina models that screen that glass is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► laminated to the screen and if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► that scratch to go away you got to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► for an entire new screen which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► going to be cheap so that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► price you pay for having a much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/772">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► nicer looking screen you got to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► little bit more careful with it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► thing about these screens is that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► use like one of those hacks when those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/780">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► resolution hacks to put it into sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► native 1x mode where one point is 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► pixel on a Retina display which Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► wisely does not allow you to do but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/788">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► microscopic and you think boy now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► all blurry I can't see anything but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► lean really close to the screen or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► get like a run of the jeweler loupe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► things or whatever you can see it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► that it's blurry is that your vision is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► blurry if you go put your nose right its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► screen you can see oh yeah there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► are all the little fine details crisply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► drawn in tiny pixels that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► it's too small for the eye to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► really is amazing um and yeah whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► where is my desktop display it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► this where where is it ends in a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► lab somewhere deep in the bowels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► Apple yeah mac pro 2013 Tim Cook says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► once again not that there will be a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► mac pro 2013 but that people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► disappointed that there is no mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► apple will have something for them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► 2013 i could just could just be faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► cpu could be the middle finger yea vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/843">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► contained wait and so they show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► little thing here's the macbook lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► now they've got the heir of the pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► the pro with retina display like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► lumped it into those three bins the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► heirs and the pros are all basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/859">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► know by implication non-retina because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► they're still selling the 13-inch non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► non-retina mac or probably guessed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► people who want optical drives or for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► people who can't afford the the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► that have the retina display but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► pretty good spread of price like the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► started a thousand the macbook pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► without retina start at 1200 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► with retina started 1700 and the visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► identity is like there's black frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► around the pros retina and non-retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/887">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► like around the screen and the air is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► still have like the aluminium color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► around the screen and much thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► border around the air so it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► makes them look older and cheaper you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► know they're getting kind of long in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► tooth but uh I i said it's there if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► is I think a very intentional I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► that's the distinction it's if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/904">TS</a>]
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00:21:23 ◼ ► Mac Mini they Rev the Mac minion I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► like I know we complain about the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► pro with the mac mini if you were like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► big mac mini fan I guess Mac Mini Colo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► probably is it's like when are we gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► get a mini update what Apple feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► it like cool your jets man you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► is the macbook pros every year and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► like the laptop line every year they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► gonna do something with the laptop line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► because those are their bread and butter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► but the mac mini yeah you know but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► the thing with Mac Mini is like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► it's at the end of its life time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► really don't want to buy one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► when it gets revved it's a big leap from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► the past one and this is an impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► little machine alright so first the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► 3 of course for you as beasley 3 slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► firewire 800 still hanging on there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► what you got a weird that's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► bolt port the Mac Mini has a Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► port Mac Pro not so much hdmi you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► with the acknowledgement of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► who want to use it attached to a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► really fast CPUs I put a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► show notes of showing the benchmarks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► this thing and how depressingly it beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► some of the older mac pros in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► benchmarks the mac mini beating them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► back pros i think was like a 2009 mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► pro it is now faster than in some cpu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► benchmarks up to 16 gigs ram 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► retina MacBook Pro can have it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► mac mini can and you know one terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► hard drive or 256 gig SSD and an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► for the fusion drive which we'll discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► later these these minis I've thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► about getting a mini for just two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► attached to my TV for a while the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► that keeps stopping is one these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► pretty expensive like the mini I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► guess it's kind of stayed the same price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► so it probably is going down but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► not like you're getting a mini for 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► bucks you know once you get the men you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► want you're pushing up close to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► thousand so it's not and it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► insignificant investment and second is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► I'm still a little bit worried about fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► noise I don't have something always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► attached to my TV in my TV room adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► more fan ever hear that i have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► mac minis you never hear the fans those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► I'd be happier if it had no fan because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► i love the apple TV yeah but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► think the fan maybe the Jackals on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► chat room can corroborate this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► dispute it but I unless I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► something with flash I never hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► fan of that thing yeah I'll bet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► quiet but anyway I continue to to I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► mac mini warily maybe I can consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► getting one to attachment I just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► hoping that like newer Apple TVs will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► come out with no fans that do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► that I would would be doing with the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► mini oh right way that's cute it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► nice little update thumbs up on that add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► that extra how do you have any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► anyone minis yeah no no I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► avoided them what what if the update to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► the mac pro is that they get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► mac pro and they have a mini that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► just some kind of thing where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► like a drobo style insert some drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► and and pci cards i'll be very upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► with Tim alright if you did that or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► her same basis and I'd say you know Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► you said in 2013 you'd have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► for the people who are just wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► reiterate the reason you can't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► fantasy scenario is because at least for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► me and I suspect for other people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► well that the reason I want to Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► is because i want the fastest available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► video card in there and the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► available video cards cannot run over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► Thunderbolt because Thunderbolt does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► have enough bandwidth it's equivalent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► like what is like for pci express lanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► or something like that I remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► exact numbers but the top end video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► cards use more PCI Express Lanes than is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► available in the current version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► Thunderbolt so everything else aside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► you know possible expensive having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► external breakout boxes and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► bad ball is just not it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► possible with current technology to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► the machine that I want and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► the other people want mac pros you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► they want to put in big full-length pci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► express cards again they probably need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► more lanes even if you had a breakout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► box it couldn't you know it's just less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► convenient to have this big spaghetti of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► boxes you know we don't want a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► neck mini and then connect to you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► thunderbolt drive chassis where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► put for hard drives and then connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► to another chassis where you can put two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► pci cards for your video capture you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► up with this big spaghetti of boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► connected with wires you like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► just package that in one really nice box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► and give it to me now I fully expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► new mac pro you know the optical drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► go away the case gets smaller SSDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► feature prominently in the pre-installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► hardware again we'll get to the fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► drive in a little bit that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► expect of a new mac pro replacement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► by the way give me retina display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► some crazy video card that can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► drive it over some kind of bus I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► whatever you got to do make it happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► right let's look we're all signed up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► for 2013 so um fingers crossed but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► now on the desktop realm we've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► new imac with yes they said was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► people consider the imac the flagship of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► the neckline it's like you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► you're just rolling over in your grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► when they said that I me it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► psychologically like if you if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► the general public name a Mac they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► like the imac is that a Mac like that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► come up so they know that it like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► you know the flagship does that mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► is a faction well wait a minute the hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► on hang on ever since the day the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► came out i would argue that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► been their flagship mac that i'm at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► imac has always ever since that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► day that has been the mac and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► if you had a Steve Jobs and today if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► you'd asked him cook and if you'd ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► most folks on the street if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► said imagine in your mind a Mac what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► you think of they're going to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► an imac now you might not think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► imac but i think most most people still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► Sam Mac they're probably not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► think of a laptop I think the thing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► laptop at this point it's fun yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► know what you mean you may have you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► have a good point there but I bet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► that there's more people on the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► who don't even know that Apple makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► tower anymore oh yeah I'm sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► sir you know but like it uh it depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► on what you're different hey wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► minute where where the where are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► towers in the in the apple store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► still there are they still there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► I remember you could walk in the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► store and fifty percent of what you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► where the towers sitting up on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► the thing with the cinema displays next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► to them and now it's all ipads iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► and laptops and I wonder if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► there's more than a couple of the towers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► and they're jackals Andy you've been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► a i'm gerry only to apple store recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► you've been in there recently I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► shocked if there was more than two i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► remember say i think there might be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► I'd be surprised there's two yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► one does definitely one because I saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► last time i was there which is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► week ago right and if there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► they're right next to each other I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► they used to be too and I think now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► that's probably just one and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► thing next to it is TV with a mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► connected to it or TV with an apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► connect to do or something but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► still one I mean I don't care what's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► the apple store on the blind from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► apple store just you know do they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► what I want yeah but anyway in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► meantime imac they have a cool imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► evolution picture they showed the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► seven generations of imax all lined up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► yeah and that was it was good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► getting across the message they want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► because you know there's the CRT ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and it's like you know what can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► transitional form where it was like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► didn't want to shove all the guts in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► back of the display because that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► it all fat don't lampshade stop yeah yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► that you have a lampshade I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► myself I had one and I should have kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► it on a wide and keep that thing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► that was a great machine I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► that design came out I saw it in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► you can buy this computer for the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► of money they were selling it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► because it looks so expensive like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► ridiculous arm thing and the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► worked and looked and it just looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► like an incredibly expensive product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► like it look like oh this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► some crazy bang and olufsen thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► can't afford something business it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► like 1,200 bucks or whatever was I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► not believe that you could get it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► that price and so they were like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► let's let each element be true to itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► so that we don't want to shovel the guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► in the back of the monitor because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► that's you know the guts they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► squatted note to the ground and so had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► the little dome thing it was like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► matt finish that's one of the only times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► i can remember apple doing intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► like a very matte finish like matte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► finish white very strange uh and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► the monitor let's let the float in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► air its essence is that it's thin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► free you know and so then they evolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► it in the very next revision after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► lampshades I didn't do as well as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► had hoped they would do uh they said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► know we have the technology now to shove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► the guts on the back of the monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► because then it's not that thick so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► show of the guts in the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► monitor and it was thicker than the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► floating monitor on the lampshade but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► they got progressively thinner they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► that little one i like the little brak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► little black dress model or you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► car in black where they changed the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► of the imac to black and in profile it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► slimming the girl you see is the silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► and the black disappears alright optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► illusions it's like when you hold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► fingers up in front of your eye and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► make a really really tiny little pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► hole in it improves your vision that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► not not the coalition but yes that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► something you can do yeah alright then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► they made the back back to all the minim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► it's pretty thin on the current models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► alright so then I said nay let's show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► you the new iMac and they put up a slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► that did this very careful reveal of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► edge of the imac coming up on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► video on the slide it was super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► thin and they showed the picture of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► which is also from that strange awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► kind of angle showing look at this thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► edge it's five millimeters thin ah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► phil was very excited about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► kept showing it in the show notes i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► linked to an image from our technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► article which i also linked that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► picture taken by the arse guys when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► are at the apple sort of meet and greet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► play with the hardware type thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► is not from that very careful angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► chosen to show only the thin edge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► not the back and you can see the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► back end of this thing I tweeted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► thing earlier it's like does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► aluminum back make me look fat because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► many angles it looks like there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► sort of bulge or tumor or you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► junk in the trunk in the back of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► imac and the the thing about that thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► edge it's like what does that buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► it's not a laptop dude do I really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► how thin the edge of the imac is if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► have to see this big lump in thing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► any angle where I happen to see the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► now Phil's right he brought up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► picture the old ways like look here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► the old one doesn't look humongous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► thick and ridiculous monks you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► new one and is true it does you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► it from the side you're like oh my it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► starts to look like the old white imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► with everything on the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► monitor like man that thing just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► like a giant battleship now compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► this new one but at a certain point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► compromise the the insides of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► just to get the this the thin edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► because like I again beyond aesthetics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► just don't see what that buys you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► it's purely sort of as a vanity feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► it's purely a dozen less of a cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► thin now if the whole thing was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► thin like then we're getting somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► like because then it's like oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► it's getting crazy really is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► elemental but speaking of the elemental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► stuff the next part of this which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► actually addressed on the thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► chin lots of people are talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► this and apples like we love the chin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► the question is why the hell does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► imac have a chant at all yeah it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► there's no physical reason like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► could put all the guts in the back of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► there's nothing in the chin like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► chin is health then at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► there's nothing of significance in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► you could put everything that's in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► I'm a completely behind the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► it would look like a really cool display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► yeah do you think that's why they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► so it does not look like a display so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► this is the distinction between the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► and and display yeah it's kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► distinction because for their iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► devices they don't do that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► say we've got of an apple somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► the front of this device right they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► like the whole front is just like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► you all you see is the screen and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► they could you know if they only put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► edges on there for you to grip and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► course you've got the home button but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► there's no place like dedicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► branding and the chin is dedicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► branding is that it is a differentiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► you're not just looking at a monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► this is an entire Apple computer see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► apple logo or in the middle there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► an apple computer then chin keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► getting smaller thinner less prominent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► all that's all good things but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► they feel like if they take that away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► there's not enough left to brand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► thing as an apple computer or as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► think iOS and the devices themselves are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► iconic enough I might just start to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► like a monitor but anyway they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► emphasize that the back panel and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► chin are now like fuse together with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► this what is it friction-stir welding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► some crazy thing to basically make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► one piece which leads me to believe i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► haven't seen not the ifixit teardown yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► actually they're not out yet so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► can't do one but it leads me to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► that you've got to suction cup the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► display part off and that's how you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► it all the insides like the back doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2038">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► come off the front comes off and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► not glass it's fused to the right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► display comes out and then you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► all the guts of the thing now these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► things are though to some degree a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► little bit less well the the larger the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► 27-inch one can go up to 32 gigs which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► is the first time in the history of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► imac unlike the the disappointing to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► 13-inch MacBook Pro which can be only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► retina which can be only eight this can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► go up to 32 gigs in a supported Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► configuration and apparently this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► first time that Apple has supported such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► a configuration that you could have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► with like third-party RAM and upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► your imac to 32 gigs but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► supported by apple now it's sank fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► sanctioned yeah I think that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► keeping pace with like current Ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► requirements like it is ridiculous for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► any desktop machine to max out at 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► especially like the top of the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► because once you get a top-line imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► that's starting to get pretty expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► this has led some people as I see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► that there the thing that replaces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► mac pro for you is just going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► really really fancy iMac I hope that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► not the case because I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► there's room in the back of a display to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► put a extremely high-powered full length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► of video card and you know these imacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► their laptops with the giant screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► motherboards laptop CPUs laptop GPUs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► the most part except for maybe like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► very top end one is probably too hot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► alienware gaming thing but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► it's not desktop caliber stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► it's certainly not the crazy server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► caliber stuff that's in the Mac Pro's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► you know ECC ram and server CPUs and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► that stuff um still the 21.5 inch on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► 27-inch i think that the resolutions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► the same 2560 x 1440 for the 27-inch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► 13-inch macbook pro retina has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► pixels than the biggest imac you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► again you know reten I maks-2013 we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► still waiting we're talking about that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► couple shows ago I didn't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► would be here this year looks like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► won't be not really surprising the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► 27-inch is still a nice monitor even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► when it's not retina but we're all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► waiting all right the anti-reflective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► coating Leah this is the one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► emphasize the ID reflective coating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► with plasma deposition I like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► anti-reflective coating this this imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► really is the how Mike really has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► getting better and better the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► ignoring the bulge and the thinnest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► silliness you sit in front of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► you just see a big display in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► you it's all one piece it's light yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► it's a laptop slap to the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► monitor but it's a really nice laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► slapped to the back of a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► money I think I'll have to see in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► person to decide how much the Bulge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► bothers me aesthetically how are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► gonna be looking at the Bulge depends if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► you're in an office you know see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► sitting around in the office and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► walking around the office they see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► backs of these machines a lot I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► Apple makes the backs of them very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► look like I have a 24 inch of Apple LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► display at work and most people just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► the back of it and the back of it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► nice I think the back of this straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► arm will look nice but from the angle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► starts to look lump and I'll have to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► when a person I don't know and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► bothers me because I'm I worry that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► you're gonna make compromises for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► aesthetics make sure the aesthetics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► good right and I'm not sure they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► compromising much for the aesthetics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► I worry that's the trend like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► someday they're going to say let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► next one let's make it like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► thing five millimeters thick well to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► that we have to make you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► silly compromises yeah I don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► at this point also i feel like the leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► that holds it up can we should shove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► internals into the five millimeter thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► legs that holds it up like what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► like doing there seems like wasted space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► can we get this this screen to levitate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► it like they're really trying to boil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► most essential like even the leg they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► tapered the front of the leg like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► sitting in front of a 23 inch apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► cinema display now in the front of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► Littlefoot the little input is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► tapered it's just as thick but the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► edge as it is throughout the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► thing and they several years ago they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► tapered them all the tapered their the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► imax and all the monitors stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► that because they just like how can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► reduce this DB even less than their it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► continue to execute on it the dual mics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► appear on this one you got the USB three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► two thunderbolt gig Ethernet SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► still there still rocking the SD card of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► course no optical i don't i wouldn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► all they had to get rid of the optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► isn't it so thin no they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► really have to call no matter what don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► don't kid yourself and if it was it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► those of you who are stuck in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► this is quoting phil schiller yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► pussyfooting around that if you're stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► in the past you can pay apple $79 for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► fifteen dollar drive mechanism and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► aluminum case gotta love the margins on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► that one that's us be your super drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► but i mean with the desktop i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► reasonable like that's what i said to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► mother like you know they're getting rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► probably gonna be your last machine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► an optical drive I said you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► sell an external one just like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► going to do that because then if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► have laptops you like uses it on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2338">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► pillow on her lap on the couch in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► of the TV you can have this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► dangling off of it off to the side it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► just silly but with the desktop if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► really need an optical drive you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► have to get the Apple one for 80 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► likewise another one I'm sure you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► something that works but or just get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► Apple on for 80 bucks it looks nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► matches the machine but that is reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► but you just put it down next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► machine there's nothing else on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► desk like this is just what looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► the monitor their wireless mouse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► keyboard it's a very clean environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► keyboard because of the half-size arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► keys lack of home and end blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► but we and you know you're stuck you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► stuck with a keyboard you can't possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► replace it yeah well I like what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► saying is I wish they had a full the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► Apple you know aluminum keyboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► full-size one yeah just make a wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► version of that that's exactly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► they used to have that the others right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► they when they were white and plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► curtain yeah yeah but you didn't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► like those as much as aluminum no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► never liked those keyboards in fact my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► macpro can't the whatever keyboard my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► macpro came with my keyboard and mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► I didn't have not used for I think any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► of my tower Macintosh that look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► cheese grater I always just leave them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► in the box and I use my own keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► mouse maybe maybe this one I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2404">TS</a>]
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00:44:05 ◼ ► storage in a way that makes the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2645">TS</a>]
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00:44:12 ◼ ► of storage or more than it would if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2652">TS</a>]
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00:46:23 ◼ ► is on the SSD so you're starting off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► with like that first that first launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► experience is going to be really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► fast because everything is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► SSD you might as well it's as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► bought just a plain SSDI mac and then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► if you don't use some application that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► on the SSD it will be migrated back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► the spinning disk and if you do install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► some new software and constantly use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► that will be migrated to the SS Dean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► don't have to do this and you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► to say oh I've decided this always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► to be there and that owes has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► another place the operating system does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► note what you do and and you know keep a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► certain amount of available free space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► and not overflow the SSD and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► shuffle stuff around and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► a really great experience in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► performance and what you get for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► money because like we're all brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► and pass shows were all just waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► you know affordable one or two terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► as steel like that would hold all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► stuff but our stuff keeps growing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► even though the price of SSDs keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► coming down or just it's taking a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► time for them to match up in the end by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► the way the size of hard drives keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► going up and the price keeps going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► and hard drives as well so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► well maybe maybe it's just never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► to turn that corner or Never but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► know maybe that turning that car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► going to take longer than we thought so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► let's do something in the interim to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► have some sort of hybrid solution this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► is definitely looks like a feature that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► you would expect to wait for a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► operating system update but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► that it's being released now makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► think that they wanted it to be ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► for mountain lion and it just wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► yeah and the the evidence in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► direction is that the wdc session on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► file systems I think I told this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► before when I was like coming into it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► I was coming from lunch or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► everyone told me all in the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► this thing they said something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► they said they had something that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► wished I could talk about that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► couldn't then they did the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► presentation and i went back and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► the WIC video and they do this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► tease in the beginning like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► so the file system there's some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► stuff that we can't really tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► about but here's like a review of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► stuff we talked about last year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► presumably that this was the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► they couldn't talk about and that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► me think like those guys like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► wish that they had it ready for mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► lion because then they could have talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► about at wwc but at by the time WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► rolled around they said you not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► make it you're going to get pushed off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► oh god dude we gotta wait for 10.9 no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► you don't we'll do a mid you a major OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► feature and a mid-year OS update tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► a single machine or two machines in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► unprecedented but it just shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► Apple if it's important enough Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► will not hold its features for major OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► revision just say you know what forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► from the imac the imax coming out we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► wanted to have fusion drive same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► with the mac mini let's just ship it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► with presumably ten point eight point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► three or whatever they're going to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► the ten point a point to has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► support for it baked into it already uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► now the question on everyone's mind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► all right so that's the high-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► overview of how this works that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► experience the user gets fine but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► does this actually work internally there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► have been lots of other solutions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► try to combine cheap big capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► expensive smaller capacity solid-state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► storage to give you sort of a hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► solution one of the early ones is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► these hybrid hard drives it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► like a regular spinning hard drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► looks just like a regular spinning hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► drive but on the little circuit board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► that's attached to the top of the hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► drive there is some amount of flash yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► yeah not a lot like the one the one i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► heard a lot about and read reviews of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► back in the day was the seagate momentus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► xt comes with four gigs of flash on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► thing is a review i linked in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► notes from an antec from 2010 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► when this drive came out at least when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► it was reviewed and on this drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► the flash memory the little SSD on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► circuit board acts like a reed cash so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► any time you read some information it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► goes in that read cache and it read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► again it doesn't have to go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► spinning disk it's already in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► little cash there and it's a persistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► cash so like you could turn the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► off and turn it's not like just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► something a ram buffer that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► know 16 megabytes 13 mega for gig SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► that will hold your most recent reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► but rights avoided that s is the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► leap you wrote it just went directly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► the spinning disk it did not write into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► the the flash memory so your rights were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► just as slow as they would be on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► spinning dish but your reads for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► stuff that you read often in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► would be faster I was kind of surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► when I read the sign and tech review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► because the original reviews i had read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► for back in 2010 we're like yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► it's all right but it's not like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► really want good performance get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► actual SSD and it's kind of expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► and like it didn't seem like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► compromise like the four gigs isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► much and you kind of have to do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► with it's sort of prime the pump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► there are times when you can knock out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► contents of that four gig cash if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► not careful or if your ass isn't savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► or the firmware isn't good where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► just read some big file like they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► they do things to try to make it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► have these bad conditions but it's app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► it's a dedicated piece of hardware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► like as far as your computers can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► it just looks like a hard drive that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► weird performance characteristics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► there's no operating system involvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► it so there's only so much you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► and you're sort of at the whims of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► managing that little 4 gigs of NAND [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► flash on the thing of something I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► and tech review that I wasn't robe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► that if you defrag your hard disk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► resets all of the the knowledge about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► what should be in the flash memory kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► probably done at a hardware level like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► which you know logical addresses are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► cached on the cash and which or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► if you fiddle with all those logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► addresses since rights don't go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► the flash memory now you're screwed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► their cash and it resets things but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► never liked that I looked into those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► when they were available and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► this is not a good compromise for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► terms of price versus performance the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► next thing that came along this is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► May of 2011 is that Intel's chip set I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► don't keep up with Intel chipsets but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► for the PC world if you're into you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► building your mother boards are worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► about what motherboard you think has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► until z68 chips that include something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► called Smart Response technologies SRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► which does not stand for street racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► technology or the car fans out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► again I'll link to the antec review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► this and this is unlike seagates thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► because both reads and writes go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► the the SRT system SRD system would let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► you hook up like an actual SSD and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► actual hard drive and they would try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► like use them both to make your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► faster so rights would go through there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► and so would reads but this was more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► like a cash rather than what fusion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► apparently doing so it had two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► modes one of the modes was it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► behave like a right through cash where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► every time you write you have to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► to the SSD and you have to write to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► hard drive the spinning disk before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► before you're done so that would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► your rights all exactly it slow as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► hard drive because that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► the gating factor but it would mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► every time you did it right if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► subsequent to read you could read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the SSD because it was put there when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► was written and what does the other mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► the other mode is like a ripe right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► thing we're able do the rights to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► SSD and then eventually those rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► will go on to the spinning disk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► that's slightly more dangerous because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► what if you do it right to the SSD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► then something happens before work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► written back to the disk then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► you've lost that data because if the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► is dead or something like that in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► these scenarios described so far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► size of the storage you have is equal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► the size of the spinning disk so on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► SRT thing since it's just used as a cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► if you have a one terabyte hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► and then like a you know SRT excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► lets you use 64 gigs of some SSD or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► something you have a one terabyte of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► storage it just uses 64 gigs of your SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► as cash up to 64 gigs so if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► much bigger SSD you can divide your SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► 64 gigs is used for caching for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► spinning disk and the rest of the SSD is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► use just plain old SSD that shows up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► a different volume and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► maximum you can use there but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► increase the size of your thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► any data that's on the SSD in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► with the right back mode you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► eventually but in the other mode always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► will be on your spinning disk your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► spinning disk is where your date is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► is adjust the performance enhancement in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► no time do you need this SSD for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► system to work provided every right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► that's on it has been written out to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► the spinning disk now the fusion drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► combination of the two things if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► a fusion drive and you get 128 gig SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► plus a one terabyte hard drive your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► total volume size is one point two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► terabytes it it's the union of all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► storage the stuff that's on the SSD is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► not on the spinning disk and the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► that's on the spinning disk is not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► the SSD plus or minus any ferrying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► between all right ah and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► different scenario than both of these uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► that an attack was the only one to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► the first one to get any details out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► this visit like Apple didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► reveal any details there weren't any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► white papers up but they talked to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► people in the press room afterwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► he found enough people to give them some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► the most interesting technically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► hell he got is that there's a 4 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► write buffer on the SSD so that anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► anything is written to the the fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► drive the union of these two things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► written into that right buffer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► means that your rights are really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► right and eventually those rights to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► that buffer get either spilled over onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► the spinning disk or kept on the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► according to whatever policy that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► thing is using to decide what stays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► the SSD and what doesn't so this has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► advantage of that right back mode of SRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► where your rights aren't gated by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► speed of the spinning disk you can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► really really quickly because all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► rights just go to the SSD that data may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► eventually ends up on the spinning disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► due to whatever policy they use but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► doesn't necessarily have to be and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► course the reads if you're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► something that's on the SSD you get fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► as these read speeds if you're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► something that's on the sping disk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► get the speed of the spinning disk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► many people speculated that all Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► doing is using this is a 68 chipset and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► and i'm using srt and i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► that's the case it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► sense to me that they would do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► fact Apple has a history of using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► chipsets from Intel and you know its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► yeah integrated circuits on its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► motherboards did it they're made in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► past and it simply does not use all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► features of them like there'll be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► sort of you know SATA raid support in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► some controller chip on some apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► motherboard but that's not you can't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► that that's not exposed maybe even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► pins aren't even connected like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► dolby digital 5.1 sound is embedded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► some chip that they happen to use as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► part of some Intel chipset and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► don't use it right so even if Apple use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► chipsets that have this SRT stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► think it'll be perfectly within Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► usual pattern so does not use it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► they're doing their own thing here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► this is not SRT the description of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► it behaves is different than how SRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► behaves even in the right back mode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► different this is the union of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► drives what are the details are there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► this from the antec article oh you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► a sound bite for this one I should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► have a sound bite for this one he asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► them if there was any any user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► for managing the fusion drive within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► operating system and they said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► I'm assuming eventually the command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► tools that deal with this type of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► will be there but no GUI for it the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► bit of information i saw that had real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► sourcing was from LG e RB arg it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► technica article i've linked to the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► to the ARS technica hour ago as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► that as a description of fusion drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► with more details and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► comments feature like ARS technica has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► some really good commenters people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► really know what they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► but to see their stuff you'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► like wade through a seven-page comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► thread and like find the one guy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► good and now that the editors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► authors at arstechnica have the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► to say oh that's a great comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► promoting that so right underneath an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► ARS technica story there'll be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► box that calls out the one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► comments that actually are worth reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► you know there actually are good and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► this is a he gives some confirmation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► I think what everyone suspected he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► I am a hundred percent certain this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► hfs+ sitting on top of course storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► based on comments made to me by certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► former co-workers who are still at apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► mmm yeah I think he used to broken up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► alright so course storage did I put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► link to than the Shone's I should course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► Torridge is Apple's a logical volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► manager kind of thing it was introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► in lyon they used it to do FileVault 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► which is their file their whole disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► encryption thing and it's sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► layer you say on TV says hfs+ sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► top of course storage i would say core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► storage hiding hfs+ behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► but bottom line is this is not a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► file system core storage i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► talked about in a line review if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► read the man pages back in line you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► oh I can make a union volume out of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► I can I can take one disk and others can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► make them look like a single disk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► is the equivalent of both of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► that sounds like raid 0 but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► like an entirely software based thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► it's it's logical volume management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► logical volume management is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► from the UNIX worlds from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► decades ago where you could take but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► physical spinning drives but as logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► entities that may contain like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► logical physical thing was separated you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► may have for physical drives but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► may split that up into three logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► volumes each of which span the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► different drives like it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► than raid it's different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► strategy for spreading your data in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► regimented pattern it's more flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► dealing with storage in a more flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► manner so with FileVault 2 they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► used it to say okay well we need we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► something in between hfs+ which has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► knowledge of how 5 volt to works right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► and and the rest of the system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► intercept all the data blocks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► encrypt them and as far as applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► are concerned they have no idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► they're running on an encrypted disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► they just see you know a regular disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► all the data is decrypted to them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► don't have to change hrs + thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► la-dee-da I'm just doing my thing core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► storage is the magic that intercepts all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► those blocks and decrypts and encrypts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► thumbs on reads and writes that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► can like magically encrypt your disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► while you're working in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► because it's just sort of course towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► gone shuffling stuff around and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► it all over the place and H of the H of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► applications are all unaware and it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► happens behind the scenes and I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► my Mountain line review were somewhere i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► talked about how what cord storage has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► to do to do its current job of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► doing the encryption stuffing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► single volume is be able to manage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► allocations of blocks of data across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► physical storage and keep track of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► they all are and efficiently handle them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► and stuff like that and how that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► that far off from what a file system I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► need to do so I you know I feel that H [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► of S Plus it's terrible it's old it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► needs to go if Apple has a new file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► system in the offing we don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► it yet they looked at ZFS that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► work out if they have a new one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► knows but like course storage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► technology used to make course storage a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► lot of that same technology would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► applicable to making your own file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► system not the core storage currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► become a file system but that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► technology in it could be used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► develop your own file system and so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► this comment he el lugar berg says is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► very explicit about that he says if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► disassemble the existing course toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► driver and by the way court like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► core storage has been around since line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► it's on your disk and now it's used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► do FileVault 2 you can read the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3718">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► pages and learn about concatenated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► drives and see how buggy and incomplete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► the implementation is but he says if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► disassemble that driver of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► don't have the source code to up so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► do and run disassembly on the library's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► you will see a complete copy on write b [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► based on a paper that he links a paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► from usenix ah what's this guy's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► but I head in the show notes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► somebody well I gotta look it up no show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► notes where are you it is bad ohad road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► however I thought it look it up he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► going to mangle his name Oh a JD that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► his first name it's like his last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► is ro d eh and he wrote this paper about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► how to make b-trees amenable to copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► right and we had a whole show about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► in the past it was hypercritical episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► 56 computational skeuomorphism where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► talked about ZFS butter FS which i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► like to prance btrfs block-level dips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► the duplication time machine all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► of file systems stuff and the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► breakthrough the mix butter FS possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► is are these copy and write be trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► like the entire thing is based on that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► why it's called btrfs be tree file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► system like they decided they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► one really awesome data structure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► is suitable for many different needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► based on some very recent breakthroughs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► in computer science theory and build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► whole file system off of it so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► listen that episode of you want to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► about butter FS but I course storage has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► an implementation of those kinds of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► structures and it uses it to do its job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and it says a continuing the comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► they use that in order to implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► their the logical volume manager to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► things like reshuffling data around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► disk between different representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► and additionally supports transactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► discussed on hypercritical 56 where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► either all your changes to the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► system are committed or none of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► support for that in the data structures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► themselves you can safely update things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► continuing the comment there are enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► tools there to build all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► from simple read write caching to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► through caching which is transactionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► aware and would survive an SSD fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► you're only losing the data on the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► that you would not yet made it back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► the hard drive but leaving the hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► drive and coherent state additionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► could extend the existing hotfile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► support to hit things into car storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► and it includes if I had to guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► would assume the current implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► is not super ambitious while car storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► itself is quite complex it is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► designed to support some impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► storage needs that Apple has been quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► deliberate and cautious about rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► that's my assessment as well that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► fusion drive and the things Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► with the file system are very sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► pragmatic low-tech and cautious even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► though course storage may have all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► of interesting advanced possibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► and technology and stuff they like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► things kind of dumb reliable predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► way at least initially before diving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► into something complicated so hfs+ is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► still there they're not going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► do this with the file system all at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► they're going to do this with a logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► volume manager it's going to happen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► the OS level the OS is going to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► you know it's going to keep track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► what files use frequently decide when to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► transactional be trees and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► that they may be using that to say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► when I move things but I need to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► I can just say look when I want to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► something from one disk to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► copy it completely to the new location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► and don't delete it off the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► completely to the new location that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► that way they can move data from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► drive to the other behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► without disturbing you with safety but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► you know any mentions because the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► thread and the ARS technica I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► is this working like SRT is it working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► like those those hybrid drive mechanisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► is that the right through cash is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► doing this is doing that I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► that anyone anyone could come to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► conclusion because we don't know with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► hundred percent uncertainty but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► believe everything that I've read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► speculation that I've read that it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► as I described it it's the union of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► two pieces of information and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► example if you've lost the entire SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► you lost all the data that's on that SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► that data is not on the spinning hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► drive and at same by the same token if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► you lose the spinning disk obviously all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► the data that's on there you lost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► well it's not acting as a cache you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► either one of these things it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► it's gone and that's like not a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► high-tech fancy solution that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► it's just like raid0 between the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► things over 800 people know where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► stripe data across different disks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► it's not nice nothing like right 0 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► anyway it is like raid 0 in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► respect that if you lose one disk you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► lost your whole thing and people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► like that because when you have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► thing and it has some chance of failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► if you add another component even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► has the equal or lesser chance to fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► your overall chance of failure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► increased because all you need used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► have just one thing that go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► if either one goes wrong you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► get a failure so adding components to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► system non redundantly increases your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► chance of failure possibly by just small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► amount but it's there I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► trade-off is worth it in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► because I have you know raid is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► backup and neither would it be if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► was like a write cache you actually need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► a backup because you know you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► well if it's just used as a cash I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► wouldn't need a backup yeah you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► need a backup this scenario you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► back up even more but I think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► have a background matter what anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► I don't ding the solution for being more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► fragile at an error-prone ah then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► would be if it was just uses cash simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► because I think you need to back up no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► matter what and I will gladly take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► increased performance of this setup in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► exchange for having to have a backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4046">TS</a>]
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01:09:00 ◼ ► all right more technical details also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► getting our poor back to the low-tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► implementation the the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► sees two drives connected your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► if you go to like the system information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► thing it doesn't look like those just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► you know it looks like one on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► desktop but if you go to the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► information thing it sees SSD connects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► disconnected as well they're treated as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► a single disk in a software layer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► it's not like here the OS is not fooled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► by this one question that hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► answered is say you're not you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► want this fusion drive thing like aah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► that's not for me can you like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► reformat both of them and end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► just a separate 128 gig SSD and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► separate spinning disk I assume you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► because i think that is connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► directly and if you don't want that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► don't want it Apple itself posted a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► note whatever thing about the mac mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► and the imac about fusion drive that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► a fact that answers a bunch of questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► one of them is can you take an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► drive and add to the fusion drive uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► writers external drives cannot be added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► to fusion drive that strikes me as one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► of those limitations that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► they're being really cautious they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► rolling us out slowly the core storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► itself again from the command line now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► you can make a bunch of disk images and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► attempt to join them together into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► single volume that appears to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► operating system and mount it sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► the kind of work sometimes doesn't last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► time I tried it I have to confess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► think was background lion that i tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► it and it was super buggy but sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► it would sort of work maybe it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► better now maybe we'll continue to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► better this course storage has a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► purpose system for joining drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► together but the user interface exposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► this is going to be like no we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► we're not ready for that yet all we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► willing to support at this point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► these specific drives that come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► configuration we QA those we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► works there anything else all bets are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► off so the fact says no you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► add an external drive I suspect if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► tried to enforce it too might sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► work but might not but it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4258">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► supporting configuration so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► their answer is just no no you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► that can you partition a fusion drive if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► what does it mean to partition it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► do you what are you partitioning are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► part like are you shaving a bit off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► SSD or something like that the answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► partition to the hard disk part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► fusion drive only and again this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► type of thing like what what's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► this limitation the GUI probably like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► you if you wanted to use the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► line tools try to something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► you probably could and it would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► not quite work the way you wanted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► all your data would be hosed and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► would be sad but but again these are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► underlying limitations the underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► technology they're kind of limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► of the implementation or just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► little fences to keep you from hosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► yourself running into buggy code so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► Disk Utility you can add a partition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► the hard disk and that's it in just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► partition and that's it if you create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► hard disk partition is that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► fusion drive nope it's the separate disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► no participation in the fusion drive SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► thing or whatever you take a partition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► of your hard disk it's just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► normal partition of your hard disk can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► you add a windows partitions like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► does this always has to do with boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► camp can i still do boot camp yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► can you you know you can create a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► one partition you ready to use the boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► camp assistant you will have bootcamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► boot again you're when you reboot from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► that boot camp partition it will not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► the SSD part of the it's not part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► fusion drives just a regular spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► disk because Windows has no awareness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► that confusion drive be mounted another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► system and target disk boat so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► reboot your iMac and target disk mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► and connect it to another Mac can it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► your imac show up as a hard drive on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► that other mac that's target disk mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► yes you can do this but only if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► machine that you're using to mount the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► drive is running 10 82 or later so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► shows that n82 has some awareness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► this course storage fusion drive stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► to be able to see that imac as a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► hard drive that is made up of the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► and the other thing and angus because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► you know that that's the reason you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► this is some sort of course storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► feature and not like oak some crazy no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► file system because 1082 doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► crazy new file system but it does of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► course storage and it's had it for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► you know can third-party disk utility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► be used with the fusion drive the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► to that question is they should have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► one word maybe that the longer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► utilities may or may not with fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► work with Fusion Drive thanks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► Apple check with your third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► software vendor for compatibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► yeah so I would not buy one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► autumn acts with Fusion Drive and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► just take your favorite disk utility and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► run it on it blindly ah because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► bad things might happen I mean how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► before some mean like you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► about like diskwarrior or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► that yeah it really depends on how low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► level these things are because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► anything that gets down and dirty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► says all right step aside operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► system I I'm gonna do some disc work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► here and I'm gonna look at this disc I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► know all about H of S Plus now don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► bother me I know all about it let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► just check it out and I can repair your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► thing right that is not going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► the way you expect because step aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► operating system means Africa's like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► wait no you don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► looking at it's not an actual it's a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► then you know you hoes your disc it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► intervening layer of course storage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► important in the scenario now obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► drive and disk utility renders I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► we'll update their disk utilities to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► aware of fusion drive and do not hos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► them and do all the right things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► could be something as simple as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► it appears like the boot sectors on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► spinning disk or incorrect I'll fix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► for you and you know now you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► screwed it up because Tunisian drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► look a little bit different and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► host it because you use all your being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► helpful and repairing it to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► you could boot from them but really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► boots from this union of the two drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► it's not quite the same thing I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► video capture software and it reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► captures what could be wrong there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► another example of a great apple faq the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► answer this question is uh the drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► too slow that's what's wrong yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► projects capture requirements may exceed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► this sustained capture it available to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► restatement of the problem yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► what he's saying I'm trying to capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► video is not working it's not working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► because you can't capture video cuz it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► too slow yeah try captioning a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► segments source or reduces resolution or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► try buying a mac pro who doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► and connecting a thunderbolt drive to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► that has enough through but I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► you can't do that either yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► like again this is a consumer level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► thing if you had pure SSD maybe it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► its capture rate would be better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► then you can't store as much well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► bigger question here done is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► something this technology is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► something that's here to stay do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► think that whoa this is something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► going to just like we saw the SSD drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► and of course it makes sense why the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► drives would but they crept into a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► bunch of different configurations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► now they're pretty much the sealed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► the all of the laptops obviously you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► still by the way you can still get I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► gosh I think it's a lot more money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► you can get a 768 gig flash drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► that high end Mac Pro is a configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► option if the SSD drives were big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► and affordable enough would they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► technology or is this something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► think they're they're just the is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► stopgap in other words I I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► something around for longer than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► think it will simply because like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► said before I SS these are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► cheaper and bigger and better but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► same time spinning this are also getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► cheaper and bigger and better and yes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► these are gaining on the necesitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► growing much faster than spinning disks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► spinning hardness they're keeping up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► pretty well so like we thought if hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► drives had just stayed still when SSDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► appeared on the scenes we'd already just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► be using us as these but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► hard drives didn't stay still so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► yeah there's probably some calculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► equation you can determine to say when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► will it what when will it be that ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► that s is these surpass spinning disks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► but it's not going to be for a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► think and so we're all kind of tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► waiting we all want that SSD type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► experience but we also want those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► terabytes spinning this that you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► for like you know 150 bucks or of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► heck they are now they're so cheap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► they're so huge like you said oh seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► sixty eight gigabytes that's your three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► terabytes you can get cheap like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► are not except I have one in my Mac Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► Pro right now spinning storage is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► cheap but also so slow so I expect this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► fusion solution to be on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► Mac where they can put it obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► laptops it doesn't make sense they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► small they're getting smaller the SSD is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► they've always had compromised storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► so i don't think fusion is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► appear on the laptop but the the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► the mac mini and the eventual thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► we're supposed to get for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► like mac pro's guaranteed dev fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► drives and i think they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► happen for years this is just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► take a long time for the dist to sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► that crossover to finally happen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► researching spinning disks but don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► doing that no one's doing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► still keep keep on keeping on so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► distribution dr solution once it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► shaken out and everything i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► Apple is glad that like I said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► we played that clip from that show all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► those years ago or one year ago at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► one and a half years ago that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► wanted I i wanted i wanted the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► both worlds i knew i couldn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4678">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► because of technology like I can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► get SSD everywhere it's gonna take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► compromise and do and you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► make me manage it and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► what they're giving you through through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► operating system handling the shuffling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► happening at the file level not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► block level which is also kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► time machine is not it's kind of a lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► solution if you just did the block diff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► so it'd be much more efficient and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► is true but they're like you know we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► do the file based one it's simple it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► low-tech it's kind of cruddy but it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► us most of the benefit without lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► the hassles and so it seems like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► doing the same thing here the there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► wrinkles though so it is one wrinkle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► from the back my fusion drive can not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► see time machine backups my every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► to restore what could be the issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► the issue is fusion drive images must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► the first ones written to a time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► backup drive so that's kind of weird so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► if you have an existing time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► backup and you start trying to backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► your fusion drive to it like you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► an additional thing that won't work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► have the fusion drive has to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► first thing that hits that time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► disk so if you have a disc that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► currently use for time machine and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► existing data on it you got to wipe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► out and say okay now I'm backing up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► mac with my fusion drive for my mac men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► usually drive to this empty time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► disk it's the first one in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► probably like sets that lays things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► additional information so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► actually see it when you reboot and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► blah like but that's a kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► unavoidable due to the weird way things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► work and you know i'll tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► i'll tell you what some people are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► miss some people are going to miss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► fact that like right now if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► you can before this fusion drive stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► you can pull a drive out of a mac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► connected and you remember funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► remember firewire mode how you can hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► down the target desk my target this mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► and that would still work I imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► TARDIS once the work but the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► just being able to pull out a drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► checking into any Mac is that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► going to be possibility or just the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► how this drive is working in other words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► if you pulled this out and connected it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► to an older Mac Mac OS 5 and dot 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► what's it going to see is it going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► see two separate partitions one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► has like a few apps on it and one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► data on it or one I would assume that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► Apple's usually pretty good about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► clever I don't know if you call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► forward compatibility well here's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► example from memory when hfs+ first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► out I believe this is when they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► HFS existed and then they introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► hfs+ and if you formatted a disk as hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► and then took that disk in it's an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► noticed took it back to an old Mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► had no idea to page best plus was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► running a version the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► the predates HFS plus it has no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► what the heck hfs+ is and you connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► this drive to it like oh it's just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► to ask to initialize this disk isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► because I'll this is crazy instead part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► initially might still be there was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► put this little guardian volume thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► that when a Mac that just understood HFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► read this disk it appeared to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► tiny little read-only disk that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► something like you can't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► there's nothing on this extension best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► Plus this you know it wouldn't offer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► erase it it would appear to be like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► empty read-only tiny little Drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► that's pretty clever engineering because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► when the mac that is showing that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► empty thing was created hfs+ didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► exist and wasn't even developed so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► I think they call that I don't not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► call it forward compatible it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► backward compatibility but it's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► able to with your future development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► make a product that if brought to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► older machine still does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► sensible so it's possible that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► that type of solution where they said ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► there's no way you're going to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► to see this or read this on an old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► so let's put something in there to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► sure that it doesn't offer to initialize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► the thing that's one option is tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► probably technically possible the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► you talked about is like do I just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► half a disk this just looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► Disqus got like a bunch of stuff in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► and it looks like a sparsely populated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► regular desk that's a possibility as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► well because then core storage could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► just treat you know yeah it could under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► the covers hide that but that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► exactly might start thinking it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► your full disk but it's not that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► you what if you mess with it like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► wouldn't want anyone to touch that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► that would probably be bad as well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► possibility that you stick it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► says this is unreadable I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► initialize it that would be again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► because it like 20 this doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► have the right you know information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► about the block maps with the boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► sector or for example the entire catalog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► file is on this SSD which I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► probably is all that I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► guess they could have to catalog files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► one for each volume on there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► questions by this implementation and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► the people who wanted me to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► this is it explained to me how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► I don't know nobody knows it's outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► of Apple and attempts to get information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► out of Apple about this technical nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► information have not been successful not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► big as Apple is trying to keep it secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► but because they just don't care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► then that you know they want to give PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4978">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► about the new products they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► PR to be diluted by talking about nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► things so eventually i'm assuming we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► will have a good technical explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► of how this works but we don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► know yet but yeah so it all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► possibilities are possible the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► line is Apple does not much you taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► one of these drugs yes is there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► otherwise out and stick in any place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► else first of all it's inside an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► you know regular people aren't opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► that thing up I think it probably voids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► the warranty the mac mini same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► deal you're allowed to replace the ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► but you're not supposed to pry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► spinning disk and stick it somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► that is way outside the realm would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► Apple thinks you're doing with this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► non-existent Mac Pro that we use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► technology now we're getting into ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► what you're supposed to pull the drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► out of the mac pro pro the current one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► anyway they've got little sleds what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► you doing for me here by that point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► think Apple has to have a solution for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► this is the solution to market drive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► read-only is the solution to put some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► little sentinel volume on it this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► looks like that may be the solution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► just to say okay it shows up as do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► want to initialize this that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► probably be the worst possible solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► possibility that you know the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► technology like this is there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► be bumps in the road like the they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► to work the kinks out of this obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► they probably thought that it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► they thought they could get it out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► time for mountain lion and they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► that means there was kinks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► probably more kinks more caveats more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► correctly all starts it like it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► you're really cautious don't until Kate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► but if you want to live a little bit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► the edge try it out make sure your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► backups are good and you'll probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► okay because Apple is so cautious in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► rollouts because this thing is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► supported in these exact configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► does not a new general purpose flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► system for doing arbitrary storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► management with our great new logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► volume manager and cool new GUI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► command-line it's not what it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► like this exact configuration don't mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► with it it'll probably work okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► like this is the optimistic success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► story is look at FileVault 2 5 volt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► was you know the first thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► implemented on top of their fancy new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► logical volume management storage layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► course storage right out of the box it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► nothing had ever shipped before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► line introduced this entire new layer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► the storage system and he used it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► reimplement a feature that had gotten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► really bad rap for being implemented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► very poorly and FileVault 2 is worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► without a hitch I've used it since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► day it was released I've been running at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► least one mac with FileVault 2 turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► zero problems perfect no bugs background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► encrypt decrypt no problems whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► beautiful so that shows that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► really cautious approach and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► storage stuff can pay off this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► complicated then than just encrypting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► single volume but it's done by the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► team I'm assuming the core storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► people and so I think it will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► be okay watch watch the macworld on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► when these stories start coming out see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► if you see like a story from a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► themselves because they don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► how fusion drive worked or some actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► bugs and I'm sure it'll be updates to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► help with this I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► how to andy capp this what i do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► this has a lot of things going for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► terms of that the caution Apple usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► uses with doing its storage stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► the limited configurations of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► they're supporting for now I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► there will be more information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► fusion drive coming out of Apple at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► very least at this year's WWDC I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► there'll be a technical session on it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► we have to wait that long it'll be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► disappointing people asking if I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► review or do a review in between just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► talking about fusion drive well I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► going to update the mac OS 10 review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► that it is what it is now plus or minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► typos I'm probably not going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► separate story about fusion drive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► in the middle you know in between OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► release is simply because I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► anything my fusion drive I know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► know like I don't have any contacts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► the information Apple's not releasing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► and once Apple does really sit just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► the information they release I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► someone does one out button would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► buy would you buy one of one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► drives in it you personally you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► your new map primack you know in a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► pro let's say they come out they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► this technology's worked so well in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► imac and the mac mini over the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► that we're proud to introduce it as our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► premier technology in the mac pro are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► you happy about this Johnny you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► unhappy about this yes I would win 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► if a mac pro like thing comes out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► has fusion drive i will be getting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► fusion drive but that will be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► year you know half a year later or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► something right so it's had a half year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► to get the kink shaken out of it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► you know even if it was the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► thing on a mac pro i would probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► it as i said look if it ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► flaky or something i can just stick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► couple more drives in there and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► those and keep the flaky fusion drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► until they work the kinks out like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► theoretical Mac Pro that has all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► different drives in it that I would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► it with this hybrid thing because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► want these like I said yeah I set it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► an episode 17 that's what I want and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► gonna get it and I'm willing to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► with the flakiness especially on a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► pro where I haven't out where I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► all right so if it's flaky I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► couple other drives you know or I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► wait until they get the kinks work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► you because you have so many so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► options with so much internal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► external storage on a theoretical new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► Mac Pro that it's barely a risk so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► would definitely get this on my mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► I'm not even sure it will be an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► not to get it on the mac pro that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► always been my my vision of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► next Mac Pro is going to be it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► it's not going to ship with like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► spinning disk it's you know SSD is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► to be the option and it is it going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► be an SSD boot drive a bunch of SSD bays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► in the area where the obstacles were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► new case that's designed around only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► point 5 inch storage with any of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► want like that's what I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► imagined this thing looking like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► fusion drive to cement it like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► even sure you'll be able to get a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► oh so I'm getting mine with can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► for you to get this thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► thing that doesn't exist we just yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► hypothetical thing I'm very nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► about it and i'm especially nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► because it's gonna cost so much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► like if this thing has threaten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► desktop display and some crazy a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► connector because current you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► displayport standards don't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► enough resolution to drive a true retin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► a 27 inch desktop display they just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► they don't they don't support that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► resolution so they need the combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► of video card and a new version of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► thing they used to pump the pixels out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► to their display like all that needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► be sorted out plus connected to what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► to be a fantastically expensive display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► with like 80 gazillion pixels on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► right ah that's gonna cost a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► it's gonna cost a lot so I'm so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► saving my pennies is there is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► way that you'll ever be content with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► with some kind of imac is there ever a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► day to you because you know what let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► say Apple does come out with with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► kind of mac pro in 2013 you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► we've talked about this it's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► matter of time before the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► release is just gone and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► not making them anymore you know 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► years from now there's not good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► guarantee you there'll be an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► there's not going to be a mac pro yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► you know that they're eventually going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► away the only things keeping it around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► our storage from video cards I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► their internet and cards right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► storage you would assume eventually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► takes care of itself because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► everything a solid-state on the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► graph that happens so those big bulky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► annoying spinning disks they go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► they look ridiculous we look back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► mail I can't remember when we use those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► things that's fine that takes care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► the storage thing video it's conceivable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► that you could fit the most powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► video card made by man for consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► applications behind a gigantic 27 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► display totally conceivable they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► do it now though but you could do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► me that's all I need for the other for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► the pro people who have to put the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► video capture cards or other sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► things in there that may sort itself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► by just the system is getting powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► enough to those capture cards like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► can all happen on the GPU or it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► done by the OS or I don't know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► range of things people use adding cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► for but you've seen the number of slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► in Apple's full side powers decrease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► over the years I forget how many like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► the mac order the mac to had like eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► slots or something crazy maybe just four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► slots I don't remember but the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► slots in the tower max in the modern era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► have decreased that you know they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► them out it like let's take out one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► you don't notice like yeah that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► annoys me because I was filling all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► slots of my previous one but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► it's okay I take it one more and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► know they're especially with a double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► with things like the video cards take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► two slots and everything it's I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► happy with a bunch of energy stuck to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► the back of a really big 30 inch Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► display yeah five years now I could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► Beulah because all i want is tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► amount of ram lots of flexibility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► storage and a really really really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► video card I don't know how long it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► take for that thing to appear but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► I like you said I'll eventually i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► forced to eventually no one's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► dehumidifier signify their desk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► it's just it's you know that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► way things are going but for now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► next year Tim you promised me something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► better be good alright what else you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► for today today announced anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► let me think hmm mm-hmm think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► something with the iPad oh yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► fourth-generation ipad with retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► display the in slightly updated innards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► as you say and the lightning connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► and they now call it the ipad with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► retina display and then they have of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► course the ipad mini which also has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► lightning connector will start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► ipad 4 as it will be known by people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► want to distinguish it from the 3 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► on we're not taking our foot off the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► as Tim Cook the previous imac the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► val got a previous ipad the ipad 3 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► released just what seven months ago or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► something yeah that sounds about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► yeah seven months ago so this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► pretty fast update and this is they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► not taking her foot off the gas we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► not going to wait for like you know wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► a grace period like let's wait a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► i pad ready to go it's twice as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► the other one we're putting it out we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► are not taking her foot off the gas as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► says Tim earlier in that thing he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► people love their iPads which reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► me once again as it always does of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► movie singles & wine people love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► cars people love their iPads did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► hear the clip that that came out earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► frequency by the way we have a new we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► have a new daily news show on five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► five called the frequency 50 52 TV / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► frequency did you hear this it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► a collection of all of the all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► really nice words that that they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► during was a collection in three minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► of all the beautiful amazing yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► think I've heard it if not that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► one very similar things before yes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► the superlatives all of it Apple loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► those yeah so this ipad for I I heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► couple people refer to it as the ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► s that's not too far off the mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► because I mean and people you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► that bills oh you're saying that as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► a joke of like the four it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► that much better than the three just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► should have been called the 3s but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► always been the opposite opinion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► the 4s was a tremendous step over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► for like they improved every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► thing about that thing it just look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► same on the outside like every part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► it winside was better I'm people like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► we just added an s and it looks the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► therefore it's not as good oh really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► want to trade me your iphone 4 3 or 4 s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► then it was a big update and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► thing here looks the same as the ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► ways the same plus or minus you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► it's 2 grams heavier in all models but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► you're not going to feel two grams same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► thickness obviously has a lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► instead of the big one so the big 30 pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► thing but it's twice as fast it's got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► a6 that's not you know if you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► released a new I can't use the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► visit my guess if it's stupid you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► if they released the new 15-inch retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► MacBook Pro five months from now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► whatever whatever seven months after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► introduction is ivory or when they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► out they came out like in the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► seven months after the 15-inch retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► MacBook Pro comes out they release one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► that's twice as fast people going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► like also what just speed bump this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► twice as fast I mean that doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► in the mag line anymore it still happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► in the iOS line to time and not like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► times fake benchmark II as fast actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► two times as fast and how they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► the a six cores are faster it's clocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► higher then the a 5x was this is day 6 X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► the X stands for that extra I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► what stands for but I like you referred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► to is the extra GPU core it's got four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► GPU cores probably the exact same for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► GPU cores that were in the a 5x but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► clocked higher there were 2 50 megahertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► megahertz in this thing the CPU was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► gigahertz in the a 5x it's probably 1.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► in the a6x they improve the facetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► camera so it's HD it's got that dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► band Wi-Fi thing which may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► help you depending on what access points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► excellent excellent iPad uh and I see no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► reason they should have waited i made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► tweet that like you know I used to love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► my ipad 3 but i know i guess i can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► it to level piece of furniture or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► something that was a joke you know based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► on the idea that people think oh my ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► 3 stinks now i still like my ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► right i would rather have a 4 but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► not upset at apple for obsolete in me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► anything like that they're keeping they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► will not take their foot off the gas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► i don't think they should uh people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► saying all they had to release the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► 3 with its crappy GPU i'd still love my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► i buy three still works right in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5818">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► i've heard people say i don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► anything to be faster on my ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► obviously you know that's not my answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► i want to be faster but it shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► for regular people the ipad 3 is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► like dog slow it doesn't have a bad rep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► even though it actually it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► problems because it has to push so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► pixels around with games and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► like that the ipad 4 is like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► one that is like grown into its retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► display it's going to be the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► when the Haswell macbook pros come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► intel's new you know cpus and associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► chipsets because the current crop of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► retina macbook pros can barely handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► all those pixels and king like chug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► certain situations like simple tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► like scrolling and putting it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► they're just could can barely handle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► the same thing with the ipad 3 in games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► and stuff like that it's borderline like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► 2 with his non retina display performs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► better on the same games in the ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► because it's got to push four times as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► many pixels you know this this ipad 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► has finally grown into the retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► appropriate it's balanced in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► way that the next crop of retina macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► pros will be balanced and nice and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► give this machine a thumbs up I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► about the past show like would they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► ever just put out something with just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► lightning port on it but the same i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► had three insides that didn't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► would they haven't this you know i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► even more conservative i said maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► they'll just do a die shrink well of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► 5x and then they can make thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► lighter but it would be the same speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► they haven't done that though so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► not taking that for all the guests they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► could have put they could have filled of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► that died shrunk a 5x sinner same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► battery life as the ipad 3 but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► wouldn't be any faster right that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► not be pushing the ball forward so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► said no we're going to say 2x faster is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► more important than making this think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► thinner more important than making it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► lighter because it's not like ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► percent faster it's two times faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► this is the a6x and improving the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► and stuff is nice as well ah so i give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► that a new ipad thumbs up I'm kind I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5935">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► mean my brother was asking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► like I had my parents buy an ipad a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► couple months ago and Rose I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► think I should wait there's think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► they're gonna revise the ipad thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► they probably got time right mmm because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► who expects a new ipad in seven months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► right yeah it's wait a bit and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► some people who are saying well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► too soon but like I would love it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► they just continue to increase the speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► of these things and performance of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► things as often as often as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► write like and because what I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► you know and most would be like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► maybe the revised they put a lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► connector on they may put ad I Shrunk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► five-axis thinner my parents don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► if it's a little bit thinner and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► know a little bit lighter it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► big a deal it'll be fine with an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► through and I think they are fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► an ipad 3 but if I had known this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► coming like if this had been a year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► know if there had been a year gap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► would have said just wait wait a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► months they were in town so I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► to be able to buy the ipad with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► show them how to use and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► but i think my parents are fine with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► ipad 3 that they have they certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► won't notice the speed difference as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► they play like their crossword puzzles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► and and read email on the on their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► finally this is what the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► doing it in order is that now 40 in we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► finally get to talk about the ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► the whole point of this announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► that's what I'm saying in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► like this was like oh this give me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► new iPad Mini announcement look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► this stuff they introduced before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► even get to the ipad mini it's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► stuff like they could have stopped now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► and it would have been like this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► good Apple event they're like reb to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff in their line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► there's a new flagship iPad that's twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► as fast everything's great but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► we all expected dad pad mini was teased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► in a thing uh they did the cool like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► rotation reveal where they just turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► around the ipad part look who's hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► behind it is little ipad mini isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► cute and we've been talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► on this show you've been talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► on all your other shows for just weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► and weeks maybe even months have we been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► talking about this for months yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► think seems like a half a year talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► about this Oh apples gonna make smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► iPad all we all know it's common when is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► it gonna come and this whole time we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► been discussing the least on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► every time we talk about this I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► say you know well in some theoretical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► ipad mini that Apple comes out with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► in a hypothetical ipad mini they produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► blah blah blah i was forced to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► name for this thing in order to discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► it right Apple coincidentally was forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► to pick a name in order to ship it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► don't know why it's a shocking we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► have thought it's the last show why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► bomb it why wouldn't they pick the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► thing I've been calling it ipad mini for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► four weeks and weeks and yet in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► show we're like what about the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► gonna be ipad to play an ipad ipad air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► ipad mini now they won't called that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► was like we dismissed it because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► that's what we're calling it like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► in our discussion but like what will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► the real name well the real name is I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► had mini is so obvious like them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► constantly at least I've been calling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► you've been calling it ipad mini two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► until you got on your junior kick no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► mean it I think um I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► the only thing the only name that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► could have picked for it I just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► want it to be that yeah and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► that's why a lot of the speculation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► especially like that name I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► many I don't like mini I'll see plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► old iPad totally still I say was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► have been totally plausible and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► ipad air uh I like I said I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► like to keep the air to that sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► desktop line of very lightweight things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► but I think that could have worked as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► well but many like in hindsight is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► obvious choice like I've been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► ipad mini myself why have I been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► mini because it just fits the minis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► already in there yes it's on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► line but it's also been on the ipod line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► and you know so i don't mind it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► nice so that I don't have a backlog of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► shows where I talk about this product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► that people understand i'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► its ipad mini always talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► i I like the same way I liked it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► iphone 5 what did I call the iphone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► for the weeks and weeks before we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► talking about i called the iphone 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► then got flak bored i'm saying i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► referring you know what I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► about when I said when they called it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► iphone 5 so thumbs up tap on naming now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► I should just believe whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► that I say in the weeks before and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► be the name so their pitch for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► what what can you do with the mini that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► you can't already do with an ipad 4 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► can think of all sorts of unsavory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► lewd things that could fell in there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► what they choose to go with was hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► with one hand or hold it in one hand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► so yeah the pitch for this thing is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► tucked around the past show like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► always said this they're building this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► thing to meet a price point and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► get to that in a little bit but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► can't say that they can't say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► building this to me to pry point they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► advantages and what they're gonna say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► then it's like you can hold one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► getting back to Gruber's theory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► calling it air because it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► pitch with the air look how light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► airy it is they didn't go with the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► name but yes that's their their features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► and benefits pitch is like look what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► can do for you it's it's lighter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► you know it's not especially since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► didn't reduce the weight of their big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► iPad like this is going to really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► very Airy it's super thin as thin as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► pencil as they said the thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► physical design it's like it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► aluminum back right oh it's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► thing is aluminum it's a unibody type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► thing and they carve it all out which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► this thing's got to feel incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► solid though I haven't seen one yet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► person but that means it's also got as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► far as I can tell from the picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► I'm pretty sure aluminum power button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► volume buttons and mute rotation lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► switch thingy right that's nicer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► flagship model the ipad 4 on the ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► have these terrible plastic buttons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► volume and for a rotation lock and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► the power button with incredibly sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► edges the edges of the plastic on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► the volume rockers and switches it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► like that's like a Razors Edge know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► something like I think you're on who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► decided on that like it's just cruel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► when you have like metal buttons that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► why people like to think the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► everything it's better than the plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► ones the iPhone 5 has metal buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► again I believe it just feels higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► quality and they have the edges cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► diamond-cut chamfer they love it or sham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► ferraz would Johnny I would say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► confirm with someone from the UK that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► how they say it there he doesn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► has a lisp yeah so this is this thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► a like I think a higher higher end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► physical appearance and probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► higher and feel then the iPhone the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► 4 then their flagship with just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► you guys hey what is your flagship iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► it's the big one it's ipad 4 right i pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► with retina display or whatever and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► that's the thing still has the plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► buttons so that's a shame I hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► update the big iPad to use this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► nicer design I do kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► rocker as opposed to two separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► buttons so maybe what I would ideally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► what I would like is a metal rocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► switch with an edge that doesn't cut me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► and all right so I haven't actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► cut by yep but damn it it's really sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► the thickness it's what is it 7.1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► millimeters so it's a 10 millimeter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► was it yeah 6.1 7.3 versus 6.1 so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► it's almost as thin as the ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► which is pretty amazing when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► about it cuz that ipod touch is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► think so this thing will really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► airy it's about half the weight of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► ipad 3 ipad 3 is pretty chunky and or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► ipad 4 so you know again there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► have been an appropriate name for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► thing the physical design wrinkles is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► that the black one has a black back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► like oh we have to go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► scratching thing again like with the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► like with the iphone 5 because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► black coating is probably the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► process they put the black coating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► the back of the thing it's just a coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► you entry scratch through it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► going to get to the silver aluminum may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► be able to look weird this is a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► Millennium Falcon zone in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► aesthetics are probably lower because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► it's going to take a heck of lot scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► more scratches to fill the area in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► pleasing manner than it would on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► iphone 5 so I don't I I'm still thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► about getting one of these I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► not like the white front but I sure do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► Apple if you're listening black front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► silverback it's what we all want someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► someone's got the idea that they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► the monochrome black things for both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► phone and the pad to convince that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► person that they're wrong plz black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► front silverback it's what we all want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► they did the really kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6416">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► comparison during the presentation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► was it the Nexus 7 I was up on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► they didn't refer to it by name no they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► did not they did not call it out by name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► they simply had it sort of there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► identified and they were comparing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► for the purpose of saying that just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► making it seven point I believe 7.85 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► being a little bit that there was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► much more room there was what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► gymnastics to two things here one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► they're trying to emphasize the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► real difference in area because length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► differences in length you know 2d versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► 1d and intuitively to people it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► make any sense that if you increase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► diagonal by a couple inches that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► double the area of the that you double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► the square you know inch area of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► screen like so that that none intuitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► thing the does the screens not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► bigger it's like an inch bigger it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► inch is the unit of length like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► not what they mean so they kept doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► multiplication for you and show you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6478">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► just by you know even though this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► seven point nine inches versus whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► that the Nexus 7 is it's a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► amount more area because they're 16 by 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► and we're about four by three like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► they're just doing the math for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► try to emphasize an actual real benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► having this thing here but not referring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► to it by name was something before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► get into the what they said in that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► the thing is like people like oh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► shows weakness if you're not afraid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► the other guy you should be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► mention them by name and then some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► people say not chunk not mentioning them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► by name that shows strength because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► you know you you can do that and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► don't care about that other thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► don't think you're being wimpy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► I kind of come down the side that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► mentioning it by name I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► weakness or strength I think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► less bold let's put it that way does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► I don't know if it reveals anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► about what Apple believes its position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► is but it is less bold than naming than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► calling the guy out here is the nexus 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► 2 inch android out android tablet we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► going to show you how r thing is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6538">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► better and they used to not be shy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► naming things they'd show like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► the whatever the most popular model of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► thing and sometimes they would say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► is just a popular model but i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► naming names is more bold and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► like we don't know like that's why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► feels kind of like timid i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► why they decided on to me up by name but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► it definitely feels less bold so i give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► a thumbs down to that opinion regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► of that decision regardless of whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► it actually reveals or communicative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► strength or not I wasn't think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► it just it definitely communicates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► timidity so when they were compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► things like look this thing is made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► plastic it's thicker it's heavier it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► got a smaller display can you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► that like our thing is thinner it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► lighter it feels more expensive it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► a bigger display seems like it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► comparison but of course they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► mention this thing is eighty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► cheaper or 130 dollars cheaper if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► get the 8 gigabyte model but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► that save the price for the end and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► will to ipad mini thirty five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► larger screen and then they went and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► said but that's not all that's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► measuring with it when things are off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► when you turn it on and show the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► browser let's just take out all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► chrome pun intended around this web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► browser and see how much content area is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► there in Safari versus the the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► the browser and Android on this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► fifty percent larger on the ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► when you take out all the chrome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► when you go landscape because the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► is sixteen by nine and it cuts out these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► huge strips from the top and the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► like it's sixty-seven percent more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► content area and landscape so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► really wanted to hammer on our screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► bigger in reality and in practice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► even bigger because of our aspect ratio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► and because we are a little bit more we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► have less chrome I mean like it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► least the Android thing had a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► software buttons up on the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► were taking up a big stripe of area so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► you know that they're getting into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► you know in that specific app so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► maybe they'd what they didn't do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► let's see how big of movie isn't us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► because the movie will fill the 16 by 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► screen but will be more letterbox than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► the four by three like it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► of Voodoo but they they had some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► points to make their the next section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► that level part they you have ready more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► and some really good points it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► look it's all about software ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► why would you buy as I've had many and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► not these other smaller tablets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► going to be less expensive but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► know that yet in the presentation we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► have tablet apps they have stretched out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► phone apps right people change their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► websites to to detect that you're on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► iPad and make them look awesome and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► you go on so the thing you get like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► phone thing right and that's agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► thats a real advantage and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► damning present a yeah because it i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► so many examples like look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► looking you believe this crap just slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► after slide can you like and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► that's not you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► convincing you you want to be in the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► ecosystem not just because of her apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► but like just everything you do it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► centered around iPad and I think river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► posted sometime this week a good URL or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► someone else tweeted the URL of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► website they were going to it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► if you go there on a tablet you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► was like a movie promotion website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► the host name was like ipad dot whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► the movie name is calm and that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► generic tablet website that if you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► connecting to ipad that's something calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► like it's so clear that people aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► designing for tablets they're designing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► applications as well so that that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► great part of the presentation really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► emphasizing their advantage in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► that embarrasses their competitor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► they wouldn't name cuz they're wimpy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► internals of this thing that their pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► maybe not the strongest pitch equal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► or better than an ipad 2 and every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► and ipad to what you know i hope it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► better than that i've had to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► everybody was pretty old it's got the a5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► in there you don't need the x cos it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► does not have a Retina display you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► the specs are what we expected it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► sad i shrunk a5 1024 x 768 lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► connector is nice that it got the faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► Wi-Fi and stuff like that also nice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► it got the the HD front-facing camera I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► guess the economies of scale make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► good but you could have cheap downton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► done the crappy camera they didn't 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► megapixel back camera 1080p video 720p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► front-facing camera 10 hour battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► would you expect it but it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► pretty impressive given something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► then every inch and iPad great slogan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► good job apples copywriters there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► really emphasizes what it is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► getting here you're getting a real iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► it runs iPad applications you into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► ecosystem thumbs up on that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► have a little Johnny I've head leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► section where he says we started from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► I can't do his voice we started from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► very beginning and rethought yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► always start from the beginning Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► you know uh and they showed if we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► took the regular iPad and shrunk it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► yeah but what if you know we think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► we can make besides a little bit thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► and they did that I think there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► lot of a spy shots and presentations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► that are around around the web in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► weeks leading up to this that showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► something look very much like the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► thing and people like apples never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► to ship that you know why they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► big frame around the iPad it so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► grab it dummy they're not going to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► something that has like two millimeters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► around the sides Oh looks like they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► all right so the top and bottom chin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► forehead are much thicker than the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► and right sides at least it's uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► please take note kindle fire but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► it looks it's it's halfway between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► border on an iPad and the border on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► iphone which is kind of appropriate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► you think about it but the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► that enters everyone's mind and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► those same people who are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► naysaying the those spy shots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► mock-ups is cheese does that mean if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► hold this thing I have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► precariously perch my thumb unlike that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► edge and make sure it doesn't go on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► the screen and you watch the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► you're like oh god you know wait that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► guy's thumb is on the screen he's Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► screwing himself and he's scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► while his thumb is on the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► stuff like that and so if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► the the copy on their website they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► this little section says rethinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► screen meant we had to resync the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► memory and greeting in his stupid whore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► thing I'd like the voice read rethink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► intelligently recognize this but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► your thumb is simply resting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► display or whether you're intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► interacting with it the kind of detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► you'll noticed by not noticing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► it's a great example of how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6897">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► heartburn saw her work together blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► blah blah so they've thought of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► they think they have a software solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► which is ignore that thumb would when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► you're just holding it and they in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► videos they show in low commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► sometimes they show someone saying look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► he's he's he's a happy guy he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► happy model holding his ipad mini his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► thumbs on the screen no big deal it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► works fine like he's using it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► other hand but i'll just sections they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► show here's a dude with his finger just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► barely on that edge like if you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► oh god dude don't shake your aunt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► are you sure you have a secure grip on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► that thing because i know you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► to touch the screen like and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► what i worry about with this thing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► not having touch it is that even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► could put your thumb on there it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► big deal people will feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► shouldn't put their thumb there and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► to hold it by that little thin edge on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► the side in practice I think the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► that may save it is the same thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► saves the iphone and the ipod touch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► holding in my hand right now it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► small you can hold it with one hand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► once you get and on both sides of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► don't need an edge to grip like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► on the iPad right just put it in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► hand now for people with small hands or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► women younger people men with small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► hands maybe that's not comfortable maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► they do the thumb that the pinky perch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► on the bottom that you do the pinky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► perch yeah where you sort of use that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► the the rest if you will yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► they're there maybe this will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► complete non-issue and the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► gives me confidence about this it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► apple doesn't make these decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► arbitrarily uh they have people carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► these things around in the labs for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► tremendous amount of time whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► trade-off they think they're making here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► I you know I think they're comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► with it they're not going to be shocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► and surprised as like oh oh my god you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► know that it just because Apple can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► surprised I mean this may still be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► next manufactured controversy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► where they make up something like edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► are too thin people are dropping their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► iPad Mini that people may manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► that scandal but if you like Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► good idea of the trade-offs involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► they decided this is the correct one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► I'll have to see one in person to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► why they decided this was the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► one because you might say what's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► deal why not just put a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► bigger border on that the thing that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► thinking right now not seeing when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► person is that if you put the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► border on it it makes it makes it harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► to reach the far edge of the screen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► your thumb because they show you using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► this thing like you use a phone one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► with a thumb not that you can reach your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► thumb to every corner of the screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► you can get a lot done with just your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► thumb and a little hand shimmy and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► they have the full size borders it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► harder to get from to get your thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► from one edge all I do village because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► you've got to reach all the way over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► that that gap that's my guess for why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► they did this and you know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► they're trading off but like we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► this one hand thumb a bowl a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► easier to make those edges thinner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► the trade-off is we gotta feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► figure out how to deal with the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► touching thing my other caution by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► glass touching is how does it know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not interacting with or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► whatever is it because people tend not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► to put control is that close to the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► of the screen is it because you see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► where you see my film and it does move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► lots of people said iOS 6 already has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► this feature and on an existing iPad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► iPhone you can do the same thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7078">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► won't detect your thumb I when I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► that tweet I tried it in twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► and no matter how i touch my thumb to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► the edge of the screen twitterrific it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► accepted that input so it's obvious not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► not an OS wide feature that affects all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► applications in iOS 6 but there may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► something that I'm missing there so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► look forward to trying one of these out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► and learning how they work in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► with with a real real you situations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► I'm you're so great and compare this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► a way if you will to the setting in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 or OS 10 is no we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► supposed to call it and I'm looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► this let's see where this is these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► i think it is under isn't it under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► accessibility track bad track its I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► don't think it's is it under trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► where you can or yeah that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► pessimistic side of this every nerd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► know has that turned off because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► leave that it's the worst it's the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► infuriated by like because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► know what your intention is ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► unintentional touches and what it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► up doing is ignoring some legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► touches and you're like no you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► my touch when I touch you you move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► cursor and like you once you're like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► going to that preference and turn that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► thing off and that's like if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► apple tech notes and stuff they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► are you having trouble with input oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► just make sure you turn this piss like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► well why do you even have that feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7158">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► of all your like technical support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► genius doesn't help and every nerd us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► says you got to turn that off man so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► that is a you know scenario where I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► maybe they do made the opposite choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► maybe they like the air in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► direction on the iPad where it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► to have accidental or intentional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► touches then to ignore when you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► to and if they just switch that balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► it could end up being a nice feature but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► you're that's that's a good point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► bring up that we've been down this road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► before and it hasn't worked out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► well hopefully they learned from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► same experience and we'll see how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► works because that's the worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► scenario that you get this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► it's a it probably wouldn't be a setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► in iOS and then you're angry if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► not jailbreaking right and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7195">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► you're trying to I try to use the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► creating one it ignores my thumb's girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:02 ◼ ► because it thinks I'm unintentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7202">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► touching it that would be bad they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► have a new smaller smart cover for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► thing they ditch the aluminum hinge part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► and tried to pitch it as an advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► polyurethane was the magnets shoved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► inside it right the the aluminum hinge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► like the problem with it that I see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► practice have used a lot of them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► scratching scratching i scratch though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► she's very scratchy and you kid tears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► off accidentally which happens all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► time with these ipads and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► flapping it around you like oh geez no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► don't scratching isn't like it had mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► hasn't scratched yet and it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► pretty roughly abused by the kids and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► have an ipad 2 same deal but it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► more expensive didn't it like it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► more elegant than this you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► polyurethane wrap thing so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► probably apple doesn't think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► better solution they just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► cheaper to build and doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► scratching problem the real test will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► when the ipad ipad 5 comes out does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► smart cover use the same approach does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► it stick with aluminum or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► similar I'll finally price too much too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► expensive talked a lot about price too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► expensive to review what my predictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► expensive I believe that too based on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► product behind predictions were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► obvious choice is 299 but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► believe that ah 249 was my conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► choice but and my optimistic choice was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► 199 because I thought apple could hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► this price yeah they are they blew them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► all list 329 as cheap as you can get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► 20s driven we were always talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► the 16 gigabyte Wi-Fi model there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► a gig model that was as expected but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► cheapest one you can get is 320 on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:47 ◼ ► that is expensive as you said too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7307">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► expensive what what is too expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► mean the reason I was hoping for 199 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► that was my optimistic choices because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► believe Apple can make something with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► similar specs to these for 199 for 199 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► you'd probably have to downgrade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► cameras like don't make it HD front fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► downgrade the camera and the back camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► not as good uh maybe you know like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► get rid of a whole get rid of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► I don't care the dual-band Wi-Fi or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► whatever but like that would break the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► market open because I've always said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:21 ◼ ► apple the Apple is not making a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7341">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► iPad because they think small form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► factor is awesome it's because they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► to hit a price point and what I tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► in the the couple days before the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► was that this is a battle of two Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► tenants I called them the two tenants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► were uh I got to remember what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► arguing I thought I could do them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► memory but I don't remember what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► were one was we don't build to meet a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► price point and the second one was we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► will not leave a price umbrella for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► competitors and I got a lot of Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► feed back any arguments of like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► don't think that's an apple tenant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► because blah blah blah like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:53 ◼ ► make those up I'm not projecting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7373">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► dapple those are things actually said by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7375">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► tim cook and multiple earnings calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7377">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► those exact words in some cases we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► not leave a price umbrella for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► competitors right he said that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► analysts and unprompted in his own sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► philosophy is right and we do not build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► to me the price point during the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► netbook error and all that other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► he would they keep casting oh you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► have something cheaper you got it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► said look apple doesn't build to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► price point we build what we think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► good machine but at the point of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► philosophies are in direct conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► which is it do you not leave a price on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► brother if your competitors they do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► build to be in a price point uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:31 ◼ ► after this presentation say well I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7411">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► we know which one won huh it's the we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► don't build to meet a price point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► that 11 they said look wait you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► we're not building we're not seeing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► we can build for 200 bucks we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► to build the product we think we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► make and we're going to see how much we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► can sell that for given our our usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► margins right and that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► they did so those two points have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► been in conflict with apple and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► various times they have chosen different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► sides sometimes they do go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► cheaper price like you know we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► been surprised occasionally by how cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► something is an introduction we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► thought it would be more expensive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► iPad itself is a good example right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► other times they they go the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► so Apple continues to be internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► conflicted about this now the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► is regardless of what you hope you hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► it was 199 it really would have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► the market if it was 19 designed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► would have made it would invade android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► tablet makers cry bitter tears like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:22 ◼ ► that is true right the question for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7462">TS</a>]
02:04:24 ◼ ► pragmatic perspective is is it a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7464">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► you sell it for 329 and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► judging it by like business type metrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► the easy answer is that look Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► probably going to be supply constrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► through the holiday season or very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► to being supply constrained through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► holiday season because this is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► product using the a6 which is a new cpu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► the a6x but still the asics core you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► know all that stuff I it's cheap enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► that they probably going to sell out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► them would Apple be able to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► sell more iPads between now and the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:00 ◼ ► of the year if it was 249 or 199 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7500">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► if it was 199 and these were the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► that were you know it's not to a sec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► sorry stay 5 did I show gray thought uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► I think they might have trouble keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► up with demand if they made it 199 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► the demand is strong like I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► are pricing to meet the demand how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► of these things can we make before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► holiday season because it's a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► window as much as anything else like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► you know even if you don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7528">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► trouble manufacturing this and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► parts you're an expert at making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:32 ◼ ► dice trunk a5 as opposed to the a6 sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7532">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► about the mistake you hope you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► run the lines that they produce a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► certain amount per day and the only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► certain number of shopping days left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► till Christmas or whatever your metric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► you want to use is uh it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► as many people said if they had priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► at lower they would just be leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► money on the table but it's like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:49 ◼ ► you would have sold that many no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7549">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► what you're going to sell every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► one of these things you can make between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► now in the end of the year not no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► what you price them is obviously there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7554">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► wouldn't work out right or 600 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► whatever oh they are the high-end ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7558">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► the this starting price is just smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► intersection of supply and demand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► the holiday season for this product the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► second good business theory about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► that you know eventually like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► this will go retina and if history is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► guide they will leave the non-retina one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► around then you can sell the retina one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► for whatever the current probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► change the price like oh it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► exact price as the old laws but now its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► retina and the non-retina one something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► them too cheap one and then you hit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► $200 things those all make sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► as reasons that they wouldn't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► price at lower but I you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► rational and unfortunately for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:42 ◼ ► neither is the stock market and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7602">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► if you look at their stock now their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► earnings are whole separate thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7606">TS</a>]
02:06:48 ◼ ► want again to be even before their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7608">TS</a>]
02:06:49 ◼ ► earnings call when the pricing for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7609">TS</a>]
02:06:51 ◼ ► was announced that they had announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7611">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► 199 pricing I think they would have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► a stock bumper superb like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► competitors because they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7617">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► something that's obviously way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7618">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► and more desirable for the same price as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:02 ◼ ► competitors compete with this instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7622">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► they field is something that is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:08 ◼ ► expensive and i think the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7628">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► the markets didn't respond to that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► unbridled enthusiasm and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► earnings just you know continued it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► let's go look with their stock is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:20 ◼ ► how they doing today live back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7640">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► 500 they had passed 700 just mere weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► ago so they're like a 593 now that's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:27 ◼ ► mostly because the earnings call but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7647">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► know that's gonna make any rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► sense you're like don't you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:32 ◼ ► we're gonna sell as many of these iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7652">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► minis as we can make it would be dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:35 ◼ ► for us to sell it for 299 well we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7655">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► sell it for 320 and right guys right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:38 ◼ ► they're like now we'd really want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7658">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► you like it it's like they had the kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:42 ◼ ► shot and they didn't take it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7662">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► didn't take it because they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:45 ◼ ► preserve their margins um and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7665">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► earnings call they had one I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► enlisted the whole wineries call yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► I went to the Q&A just to hear this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► myself desire people talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► they asked questions about margins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:54 ◼ ► at one point they like look you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7674">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► ipad mini like any of our new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► has lower margins than usual we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7677">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► you know every time we have a brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► product starts out the margins are lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► and then we you know try to get on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► the cost curves and increase our margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:07 ◼ ► time goes on so what they're saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7687">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► we're selling this for 329 and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► lower margins than usual but then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► all their new products are like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:15 ◼ ► when the 15-inch retina MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7695">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► comes that doesn't have a forty-eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► percent margin out of the box but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► know a couple months six months later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► maybe it does you know Apple's margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► are gigantic right on everything I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► just just try to buy a friggin adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7705">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► accessory you'll see a big margins right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:31 ◼ ► uh and there they were not willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7711">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► give them up for this uh they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:38 ◼ ► willing to you know sell it costs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7718">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► amazon has admitted that they do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:41 ◼ ► want to make a profit on it and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7721">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► not even willing to sell it cost for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► little while to just crush the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► competitors like that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► strategy they've chose not to do its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► price umbrella versus not build to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► price point and they said we don't build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► to a price point i guess they believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► preserving their brand in the superior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► of their product is better than really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7736">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► crushing the other guys or maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7738">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► didn't think they would crush them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► don't know but I think this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► wrong decision long-term not short-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► short-term yeah they're going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► all their money this holiday season 3 29 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:07 ◼ ► it's good for them but long-term it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7747">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► would have been better to go in for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► killing blow kind of like they did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► price-competitive on on ipods terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► storage and features and they use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:18 ◼ ► volumes and wrapping up all the flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7758">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► supply and everything like when the now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► first came out they bought up all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► NAND and have that big contract they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:26 ◼ ► that to crush the competitors on price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7766">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► as well as features as well as cachet as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► well as ecosystem on all fronts that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:31 ◼ ► how you get seventy percent market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7771">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► I don't think they're going to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► reduce on market share of the seventh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► eighth inch tablet market and I'll Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:39 ◼ ► Cook may say I'll 7-inch tablet that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7779">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► whole other market we're an eighth inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► remember the last time I've seen someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► listening to a digital music player that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► wasn't an iPod but I see very frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:53 ◼ ► people using kindle fires people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7793">TS</a>]
02:09:56 ◼ ► you know any not so much the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7796">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► thanks but they think they can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7797">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► know I've seen regular non nerd people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:00 ◼ ► using small cheap tablets and if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7800">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► had been willing to go down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:05 ◼ ► somehow get down there and just shove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7805">TS</a>]
02:10:08 ◼ ► those guys out you know then that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7808">TS</a>]
02:10:12 ◼ ► would have that that's the time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7812">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► should have grabbed for you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:16 ◼ ► like the old Steve Jobs quote that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7816">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► people keep quoting oh you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► Apple did wrong so the marketing guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:20 ◼ ► sales guys came in and they went for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7820">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► profits over market share and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:24 ◼ ► mistake I mean Steve Jobs is all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7824">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► of self contradictory things at various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► times in history so chances are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► that you can find a Steve Jobs quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► that supports whatever your point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► view is but in this case I'm picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► that one because it supports my phone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:35 ◼ ► you I think they should have gone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7835">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► market share they should have gone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► price especially since this is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► just talking about the 16 gigabyte Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► point psychological because you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:47 ◼ ► the other ones fine go up in price range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7847">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► maybe make a bigger jump like get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:51 ◼ ► to buy the 32s with the 4g like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7851">TS</a>]
02:10:52 ◼ ► gonna make your margins like just I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7852">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► I get to sit down and talk with Tim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► say you're making the wrong move guy no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7857">TS</a>]
02:10:59 ◼ ► it's not catastrophic wrong move you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7859">TS</a>]
02:11:01 ◼ ► know they'll be successful this all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7861">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► ones they can make people say see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:04 ◼ ► they've gone cheap or they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7864">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► just lost 10 billion dollars is true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:08 ◼ ► they're making a mistake and I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7868">TS</a>]
02:11:10 ◼ ► you agree because you just said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7870">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► expect to expensive now I still bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:14 ◼ ► one of course he did we get your white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7874">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► one or black one well I wanted to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► white one but there was a delay on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:23 ◼ ► shipping November second is when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7883">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► apparently unless you ordered very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:33 ◼ ► very early the white ones are on like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7893">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► least right now as of the time of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► recording in two week delay and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► arriving on the second so my first order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► I actually put it through for a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► one and then said oh crap wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:50 ◼ ► that's two weeks out I want to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7910">TS</a>]
02:11:53 ◼ ► to talk about this thing on the day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7913">TS</a>]
02:11:54 ◼ ► arrived so cancelled it in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7914">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► black one then I believe it even at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7916">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► time of recording you can still get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7918">TS</a>]
02:11:59 ◼ ► black one right now and it'll show up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7919">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► November second which is a week from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:03 ◼ ► today right I think so yeah I liked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7923">TS</a>]
02:12:07 ◼ ► the show notes to a story from CNN it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7927">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► says apples white ipad mini sells out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► 20 minutes is that all of 20 minutes wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:15 ◼ ► yeah and so is it because they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7935">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► make as many white ones is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► that's exactly my question problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:20 ◼ ► the white ones is it because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7940">TS</a>]
02:12:22 ◼ ► really we don't we don't want to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7942">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► it it's because everyone wants the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:25 ◼ ► one because historically people have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7945">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► wanted the white model of like you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:28 ◼ ► you'd go in to get your iphone 3gs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7948">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► run 2 3gs coming right now whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► four or the 4s you're like oh sorry all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► we got like left are white 64 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► iphone feel like all right final thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► right you know if you're unwise yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► wonder but those are good questions is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► it because they thought did they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► make fewer white ones because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:48 ◼ ► anticipated more people would want black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7968">TS</a>]
02:12:50 ◼ ► ones did they make the same number and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7970">TS</a>]
02:12:51 ◼ ► the white ones are more popular did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7971">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► make more white ones and they still sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► out of them faster I mean Apple never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7975">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► reveals this kind of thing crucial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7977">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► waxman chat room is flip flopping in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:03 ◼ ► own position of what he thinks and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7983">TS</a>]
02:13:04 ◼ ► it is he's persuaded by the theory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7984">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► the one they switched to retina then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► they'll finally have the lower end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► then they can crush the other guys I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► saying you leave you've already left the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:12 ◼ ► door open for a long time but not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7992">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► fielding a smaller model right uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► the longer you let that go the more kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► of people I go I'd like my Kindle Fire I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:21 ◼ ► to maybe not so much for the nexus 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8001">TS</a>]
02:13:23 ◼ ► because still seems like kind of a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8003">TS</a>]
02:13:24 ◼ ► device but the kindle fire and app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8004">TS</a>]
02:13:28 ◼ ► amazon's explicitly stated strategy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8008">TS</a>]
02:13:31 ◼ ► will sell it costs we would break you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8011">TS</a>]
02:13:33 ◼ ► you know like that's your competitor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8013">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► people are buying those things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► they're not as good as your product but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:38 ◼ ► people are buying them and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8018">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► want people to get into like I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► the next kindle fire because I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► always get a kindle fire i love Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► Fire Kindle Fire Kindle Fire bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8024">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► Apple that is bad you want people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► only go with iPad and not go like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► someday i canna forma no I like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:50 ◼ ► Kindle Fire it's great now is the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8030">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► to strike so if you get if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:58 ◼ ► the pricing on these things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8038">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► whole range of things god they really go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:02 ◼ ► up like the iPad Mini 3 29 4 29 529 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8042">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► 16 32 and 64 gig Wi-Fi only look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:09 ◼ ► 4g 469 559 659 659 for an ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8049">TS</a>]
02:14:14 ◼ ► seems seems high like I mean that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8054">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► don't even know if you need to feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► 64 gig model of that but you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► that's quite a rain just one model goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:24 ◼ ► from 329 26 59 then the ipad 2 still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8064">TS</a>]
02:14:27 ◼ ► hanging around still with the ugly 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8067">TS</a>]
02:14:29 ◼ ► pin connector 399 529 to just two SKUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8069">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► two possibilities Wi-Fi or 4g big gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► between 130 buck gap between the Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:38 ◼ ► and 4g i wonder i would love to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8078">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► the mean where they come over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► number you know how much 4g cost we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► decided to cause 130 bucks why made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:44 ◼ ► number like that's not how much actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8084">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► cost cost one of them what's the margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► on just the 4g markup it's got to be big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► and getting bigger or maybe it shrinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► again when they went to fort when to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:55 ◼ ► know the 3g margin maybe started out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8095">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► like that's seventy percent margin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8097">TS</a>]
02:14:58 ◼ ► or that's fifty percent margin then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8098">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► went to 70 and then they the 4g chipsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► cost more so now it's like a fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:04 ◼ ► percent margin again that goes up to 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8104">TS</a>]
02:15:06 ◼ ► that's quite an expensive upgrade that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8106">TS</a>]
02:15:07 ◼ ► all I'm saying they could have made all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8107">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► this money off from the the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► have money buy the more expensive models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:11 ◼ ► and finally the ipad with retina display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8111">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► the ipad for 499 599 699 16 32 64 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► models the 4g ones 629 729 829 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► seems you know it's I'm not it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► correct that your top-of-the-line one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► would go stretch up into the hundreds it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► seems a little bit weird that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► like entry-level get people in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► it goes up to six hundred fifty nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► dollars and remember this is before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:39 ◼ ► buy the fifty dollar or seventy dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8139">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► cover before you buy you know any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► accessories that you want for this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► your your lightning adapter for your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► or your video though just everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:50 ◼ ► so expensive margins little accessories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8150">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► have to be great what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► Apple yeah I don't know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► it's going to be a disaster but I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► disappointed yeah so to wrap this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:01 ◼ ► because this is now I believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8161">TS</a>]
02:16:02 ◼ ► longest show I've ever done 137 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8162">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► I did not say this would be a short show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:06 ◼ ► because I knew it would not be and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8166">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► should have in that one and I really cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:09 ◼ ► that follow-up to really short anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8169">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► the meta point on all this thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► think I've talked about this on past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► shows when there have been Harper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:16 ◼ ► announcements but it's just it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8176">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► clear after this presentation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► they had so much Hardware pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:22 ◼ ► all of apple's hardware is in transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8182">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► the operating system i believe is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► in transition that was a big point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:28 ◼ ► not my review but their hardware it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8188">TS</a>]
02:16:29 ◼ ► just so in transition it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8189">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► like adolescence but you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► through multiple times because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:35 ◼ ► don't ever become an adult like progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8195">TS</a>]
02:16:36 ◼ ► marches on its that awkward stage it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8196">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► in transition to retina every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:40 ◼ ► product line they have is in some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8200">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► of in between each stage we're like we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► love everyone to have rat niggas we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► think it's awesome but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► expensive and it takes battery and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:47 ◼ ► can't you know it's in transition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8207">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► retina it's in transition away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► optical drives that is pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:51 ◼ ► ditching as soon as we can but i'll keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8211">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► those ones around because someone need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8214">TS</a>]
02:16:55 ◼ ► them but it's a transition right it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8215">TS</a>]
02:16:57 ◼ ► transitioning to lightning connectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8217">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► from the 30-pin that's pretty clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► sweep tube of the ipad do hangs around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► and there's a million other accessories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:03 ◼ ► and you know it's his awkward stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8223">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► you don't know what kind of accessories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:07 ◼ ► you're going to get and it's just a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8227">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► mess in transition to thunderbolt away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► from firewire also pretty clean but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► firewire ports still hanging around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► the mac mini I you know it's it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:17 ◼ ► between in transition to solid-state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8237">TS</a>]
02:17:20 ◼ ► storage we'd like to go SSD everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8240">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► but storage and it doesn't catch up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► you know they have three terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► spinning disks now and they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► cheap so we'll do this fusion drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► thing and this transitional phase all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► these Hardware transitions this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:31 ◼ ► to last a while it's already gone on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8251">TS</a>]
02:17:34 ◼ ► like a year or two and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8254">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► fast-forward to the sleek magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► lightning connector known remembers any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:42 ◼ ► interconnect besides a thunderbolt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8262">TS</a>]
02:17:45 ◼ ► USB and the USB increasing looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8265">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► parallel port sticking on the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► means you know when every other part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► getting smaller and a nicer and USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:52 ◼ ► remains gigantic we all wanted all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8272">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► retina displays we can't quite get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8275">TS</a>]
02:17:56 ◼ ► we all want a new mac pro right all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8276">TS</a>]
02:17:59 ◼ ► us anybody I want a new mac pro all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8279">TS</a>]
02:18:04 ◼ ► historically sometimes you'd look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8284">TS</a>]
02:18:06 ◼ ► a hardware line and they could put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8286">TS</a>]
02:18:07 ◼ ► like a diagram or a poster a slide and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8287">TS</a>]
02:18:09 ◼ ► be like damn they have their house in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8289">TS</a>]
02:18:11 ◼ ► order they've got awesome products at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8291">TS</a>]
02:18:13 ◼ ► every price point it looks like a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8293">TS</a>]
02:18:16 ◼ ► resemblance it's clear what you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8296">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► want this one that one you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► complicated by iOS and the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:24 ◼ ► everything and iPad and all that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8304">TS</a>]
02:18:26 ◼ ► like at various points they've had clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8306">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► Lonnie looking crossing said this makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:31 ◼ ► sense to me I see what you're doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8311">TS</a>]
02:18:33 ◼ ► you have an awesome lineup of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8313">TS</a>]
02:18:35 ◼ ► all of them are great you rev them on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8315">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► regular schedule they get better they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:40 ◼ ► get cheaper and there's no weird trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8320">TS</a>]
02:18:42 ◼ ► also now it's like no adolescent zitzer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8322">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► everywhere and you know compare new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:46 ◼ ► places and my voice is cracking and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8326">TS</a>]
02:18:49 ◼ ► don't know what's going on and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8329">TS</a>]
02:18:50 ◼ ► sweaty and nervous about girls and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8330">TS</a>]
02:18:52 ◼ ► their entire line is just weird looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8332">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► any slide you put up there's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8335">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► gotta explain well this has a Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8337">TS</a>]
02:18:59 ◼ ► display but what's that and why is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8339">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► why doesn't this one have that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:03 ◼ ► get this with retina and this one has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8343">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► spinning disk in message it's confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:07 ◼ ► it's awkward it's I you know I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8347">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► adolescence you just got to get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► it she know and hopefully they'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:16 ◼ ► adolescence we all know it's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8356">TS</a>]
02:19:18 ◼ ► other side we know what a dolt it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8358">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► like you know become more mature you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:21 ◼ ► get a real job you get out of school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8361">TS</a>]
02:19:23 ◼ ► like you become an adult to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8363">TS</a>]
02:19:25 ◼ ► responsible for yourself you stop using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8365">TS</a>]
02:19:27 ◼ ► your parents you know gas card at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8367">TS</a>]
02:19:29 ◼ ► gas station you buy your own car you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8369">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► your own job you know that's adulthood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► and we see what adulthood is for apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:34 ◼ ► hardware product lines we just you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8374">TS</a>]
02:19:36 ◼ ► picture it in your head right now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8376">TS</a>]
02:19:37 ◼ ► could mock them up you can give them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8377">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► an arse you know what they're all gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► be all is the all retina in all legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:42 ◼ ► ports gone uh maybe maybe no Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8382">TS</a>]
02:19:46 ◼ ► like we know what adults it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8386">TS</a>]
02:19:48 ◼ ► but it's just taking so long to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8388">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► there so i I'm I'm kind of uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:54 ◼ ► in this awkward stage I'm a comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8394">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► or Apple is uncomfortable for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8397">TS</a>]
02:19:59 ◼ ► involved but like like adulthood you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8399">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► through it to get there and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:06 ◼ ► computers with a single ps2 port that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8406">TS</a>]
02:20:08 ◼ ► colored half pastel green half pastel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8408">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► purple you know so those days are behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:14 ◼ ► us now it could be worse but we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8414">TS</a>]
02:20:17 ◼ ► we're still struggling through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8417">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► phase and this presentation more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:22 ◼ ► adolescent awkward phase were in here ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8422">TS</a>]
02:20:24 ◼ ► but we'll get through it i guess we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8424">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► get through it together friends helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:32 ◼ ► friends live together die alone dan yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8432">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► oh I know don't talk to me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► last two seasons though all right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► think I'm done all right so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:41 ◼ ► follow John as siracusa s IRA c-usa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8441">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► there is no Z in Siracusa he is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:50 ◼ ► Twitter he's on alpha dot net he is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8450">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► dentists by the name Siracusa and Janna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:58 ◼ ► did you do a new blog post somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8458">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► this week oh yeah I don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:03 ◼ ► let's pimp it pimp it out how to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8463">TS</a>]
02:21:04 ◼ ► blog post but issue two of the magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8464">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► Marco Arment that's right that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► it was sorry yeah newsstand publication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8469">TS</a>]
02:21:12 ◼ ► in iOS features a story by yours truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8472">TS</a>]
02:21:14 ◼ ► about can you guess yes that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8474">TS</a>]
02:21:17 ◼ ► more if you haven't heard enough for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8477">TS</a>]
02:21:19 ◼ ► about the video game journey for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8479">TS</a>]
02:21:21 ◼ ► PlayStation 3 not the band here is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8481">TS</a>]
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02:21:28 ◼ ► not read this article if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmyO5Ss/8488">TS</a>]
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