Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► when I touch you you move the cursor [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► this is hypercritical a weekly talk show [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► remaining on exactly what is wrong in [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► the world of Apple and related [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► technologies and businesses nothing is [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► so perfect that it cannot be annihilated [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► by my co-host John Siracusa I'm Dan [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► Benjamin today is Friday October 26 2012 [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► this is episode number 91 of [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► hypercritical we would like to say thank [TS]

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00:01:03 ◼   ► heard about it here on five by five [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► hello John Siracusa how are you this [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► fine friday afternoon or morning really [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► I'm just fine good sound good today [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► would you change nothing okay got stuff [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► to talk about today don't say that man [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► let's go whoo a little tiny bit of [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► follow-up and then we'll dive into what [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► must be discussed okay last show we [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► talked about microsoft surface for a bit [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► and there was one point that i had in my [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► notes that i somehow missed when we were [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► discussing the memory size of you know [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► the surface versus the potential ipad [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► and stuff like that sure and how the [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► surface start at 32 I believe anyway um [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► the the salient point that I was missing [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► is that someone interviewed I think it [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► was actually on a reddit I am one of [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► those interview things someone from the [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► surface team is interviewed there and [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► they're asking how big like the OS [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► install is on the surface and apparently [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► the surface uses 12 gigs for the OS or [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► something like that how really so on the [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► 32 gig model you know you got you got [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► nothing you got 21 20 20 left all right [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► so [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► if you can imagine a 16 gig if iOS took [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► up that much room a 16 gig ipad would [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► that really be a four gig ipad so iOS [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► seems to have a big advantage in OS size [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► and that actually should factor in it [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► when you buy like one of these devices [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► 16 gigs 32 gig or whatever you don't get [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► all that space you know it's going to [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► come pre-installed with apps and also [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► pre-installed with the OS but you [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► assumed it like yeah mostly it'll be [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► free right but in the case of windows 8 [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► on the surface be aware that it may be a [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► little bit bigger than you think and the [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► final bit here is from jared williams [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► who notes that the Microsoft service [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► will only be sold online and at [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► Microsoft stores not in traditional [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► retail stores like best buy and that's [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► news to me that's interesting that [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► they're not even bother selling it [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► through a reseller this could be a move [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► to promote their own stores it could be [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► something to make a third-party tablet [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► makers feel better oh hey we're not [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► competing with you guys you'll you know [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► would result in our own stores and like [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► these little kiosks in the mall but you [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► know we're not going to try to compete [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► with you in the big box retailers so I'm [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► not sure with the strategy is there but [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► it's interesting that's all the fall [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► that's it one video I didn't go through [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► and do all my right I have a bunch more [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► follow-up but I figure have so many [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► things to talk about on this show I [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► didn't want to overwhelm it with [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► follow-up otherwise the thing would go [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► long as I have fall upon the f-15 and [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► all sorts of other stuff but no time for [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► it today ok so today we're going to talk [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► about the apple event that happened was [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► it yesterday day before Tuesday it was [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► on Tuesday yeah the 23rd the 23rd of [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► October 2012 yeah and there was a lot in [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► this event a lot more than many of us [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► thought they would be I don't know what [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► order you want to discuss things in in [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► my notes there in the order that they [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► were presented I like I like that I like [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► that because i actually think some of [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► them will have more to say about then [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► than others and then if we go in the [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► order that they went then people can [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► follow along by watching and pause it [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► know if that's going to happen but all [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► right so we'll start with the new [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook pro [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► which was your darling that you [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► predicted for the the previous event and [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► didn't show ran this this time it showed [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► up Oh are you surprised when you fun it [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► showed up or you're like a Pepsi I know [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► it was gonna be well I mean I'd heard I [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► had heard the rumors leading up again to [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► this one I I mean what's interesting is [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► for a while there Apple was having [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► product specific events and they would [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► have and famously the iphone you know [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► they would have a specific product they [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► did it with the iphone they did with the [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► ipad and I it's interesting that they [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► had so many different device [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► announcements at this one and what was [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► also interesting was he they even talked [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► about I want to get too far ahead of it [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► but they even talked about like the Mac [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► Mini which really just received just a [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► little bit of a speed bump in storage [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► bump and there was really nothing much [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► to talk about and yet they still [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► announced it so I don't know to me that [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► would that was a little interesting but [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► I I think they just had the 13-inch [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► ready so they announced it so I was not [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► really surprised um but I think I felt [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► like it was overdue I felt like they [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► wanted to announce it last time and for [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► some reason maybe supply or whatever but [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► couldn't yeah that tension between like [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► those two kinds of events that it used [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► to be like when they were at macworld [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► expo and in WABC in some respects is [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► like oh they'll there's going to be a [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► smorgasbord of stuff here it's not just [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► gonna be one thing but then these [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► special events that you're right they [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► started doing these things where it's [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► like this is going to be all about the [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► whatever and even if they have other [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► stuff to announce they be like our we're [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► not going to talk about on stage will [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► silently bump it or maybe they'll give [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► it one slide briefly but this felt more [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► like an old Mac world keynote where they [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► just they had a whole bunch of stuff and [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► they sort of built to the one the big [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► one that they wanted to talk about but [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► the other things that came before were [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► not insignificant I mean if you think [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► about this announcement versus the wwc [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► keynote this year they were similar in [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► volume maybe there was even more and [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► more important stuff in this one [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► hardware-wise anyway not software that's [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► also why it felt like an old one because [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► the old ones used to be like all about [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► hardware at least in the beginning when [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► their software wasn't really anything [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► they wanted to brag about the beginning [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► of the jobs to our before Mac os10 had [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► sort of settled in so the 13-inch I mean [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► it's what we expected it's the it's like [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► the 15-inch retina macbook pro but [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► 13-inch so it can be a little bit [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► thinner the screen is smaller there's [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► some disappointing aspects of it some of [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► the chat room is already complained [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► about the fact that the eight gigs ram [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► is the max that you can get on this [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► thing which is really is kind of like is [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► that a pro that is that a macbook pro [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► you know it seems like you should be [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► able to Jan I didn't edit and [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► double-checking this like I'm going to [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► you know configure your macbook pro [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► 13-inch on the store and I must I'm [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► going to the wrong page that let me see [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► me see if that's actually the case [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► because I have trouble even believing [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► this no I don't that Ram option no it's [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► like a sealed I've got this thing here [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► and I'm looking at it now there's a [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► macbook pro with retina display and now [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► that's when you got a macbook pro let's [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► see what you can do if you buy now I now [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► 13 inch yeah look at that yeah you can [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► pick cpu you can pick storage and [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► accessories but nothing about ram and [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you know obviously it's soldered onto [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► the board and Rayla stuff like it is a [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► 30 inch but 15 inch gave you a choice 8 [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► or 16 right the 13 inch here it comes [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► with four gigs of ram at the 2.5 [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► gigahertz speed and then at the 2.9 [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► gigahertz it which is 1499 it is eight [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► gigs and that's that's it numbers gigs [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► now are you looking at the right thing [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► yeah i'm looking at the right thing for [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► four gigs hang on no come on i'll hang [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► on a click the wrong one you take eight [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► gigs on both of them yeah you're right i [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► was looking at the non right now sorry [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► alright 1699 1999 with Retina Display [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► eight gigs both can't configure yeah [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► that and that is that is disappointing [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► like I'm happy that all the minimums are [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► now eight but I'm not happy that the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► maximum is eight on this thing it's [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► really thin it's about point seven five [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► inches which is like twenty percent [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► thinner than the old one right the most [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► interesting about is really light like [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► 3.5 pounds they lost a pound like it's [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► starting to push down into not into [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► macbook air territory quite yet but it [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► starts to change how that machine feel [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► like we're all waiting around for a [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► retina MacBook garum and as we discussed [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► on past shows my theory as to why they [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► can't do that is because it's just not [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► enough room and it's getting a little [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► package for a battery big enough to [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► power retina display so don't get that [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► sorted out eventually but while while we [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► wait if you you know pump a little iron [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► this 13-inch MacBook Pro could be a [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► reasonable proxy / 13 inch macbook air [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► it's not super light and super skinny [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► like the air is but still I bet it [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► crosses some threshold from feeling like [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► you're hanging around a big brick to [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► feeling like you're carrying around [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► something that's pretty thin a lot like [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► even the 15 inch now 15 ish feels too [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► much like a lunch tray to to make you [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► feel like it's small but this one this [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► looks like a really nice machine except [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► for the RAM thing yep USB 3 is now going [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► everywhere on the Mac line so this thing [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► is you know it's going to Thunderbolt [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► ports USB 3 the dual mics which they're [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► also throwing everywhere on the line i [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► guess for mountain lions dictation [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► features i can do noise cancellation and [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► stuff to make the speech better not the [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► microphones are super high quality and [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► they're actually in kind of a weird spot [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► on the side of the machine but to Mike's [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► is better than one and hdmi out you know [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► all the modern things we expect it mazes [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► me kind of that the SD card slot keeps [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► hanging on you know like they never put [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► CF slots and their thing so just sort of [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► picked a winner it's like OSD I don't it [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► is SD like the big giant winner in the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► camera space like who's using SD cards [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► people with cameras I don't see a lot of [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► people using them like we see people [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► using USB thumb drives as they're like [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► little solid-state storage they carry [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► around ah but I was under the impression [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► at least last time I was looking into [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► this that CF is still has some reasons [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► for pro people to use it and this is a [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► macbook pro but anyway it is kind of [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► surprising to me but surprisingly when [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► SD card slot slot started to appear on [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► max it's kind of surprising to me that [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► they continue to be there because Apple [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► is so ruthless about removing ports that [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► they don't want [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► no firewire or anything on this like [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► fire wire is done we've got sundar bolt [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► now and USB 3 God every time I look at [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► these machines I think about the Mac Pro [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► that you could buy which does not have [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► USB 3 does not have Thunderbolt that's [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► depressing alright the retina display is [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► exactly what you saw just a double the [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► old display 2560 by 1600 and I have to [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► say like I've seen lots of 15 inch [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► retinas a friend of mine at work had one [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► SAT right next to me for a while so I [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► look it is and I've seen a bunch of [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► other ones and that really is such a [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► nice screen like you've seen it yourself [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► like you said is the only screen that [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► you've used in years that doesn't [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► actually give you eye strain desktop [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► laptop anything and I'm I really like [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► that screen it has all the aspects of it [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► that that I wish the desktops is why I [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► like when they went all glossy [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► everywhere we all complain well the [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► retina is has far less glare the other [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► ones it doesn't have the glass over the [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► top of it and I don't know if it has an [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► anti-glare coating this one I believe [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► does but if there's less glare like even [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► on the 50 inch there's just less glare [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► there's no air gap between some glass [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► thing covering the display it really [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► does look like the pixels are up on the [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► surface they said that about the the [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► iPhone 4 or 4s or whenever they [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► laminated that thing and I didn't really [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► see it there but I see it on the 15-inch [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► macbook pro retina I'm assuming you'll [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► see it on the 13 as well the downside to [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► that is the durability issue is kind of [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► scary if you drop your keys on the [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► screen of your old macbook pro and it [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► scratches that glass they can replace [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► that front glass for you but if you drop [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► your keys on the screen of one of these [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► retina models that screen that glass is [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► laminated to the screen and if you want [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► that scratch to go away you got to pay [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► for an entire new screen which is not [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► going to be cheap so that's that's the [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► price you pay for having a much much [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► nicer looking screen you got to be a [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► little bit more careful with it and the [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► thing about these screens is that if you [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► use like one of those hacks when those [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► resolution hacks to put it into sort of [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► native 1x mode where one point is 1 [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► pixel on a Retina display which Apple [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► wisely does not allow you to do but if [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► you do that everything becomes [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► microscopic and you think boy now it's [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► all blurry I can't see anything but if [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► lean really close to the screen or you [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► get like a run of the jeweler loupe [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► things or whatever you can see it's not [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► that it's blurry is that your vision is [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► blurry if you go put your nose right its [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► screen you can see oh yeah there they [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► are all the little fine details crisply [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► drawn in tiny pixels that are you know [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► it's too small for the eye to see it [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► really is amazing um and yeah whereas [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► where is my desktop display it's like [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► this where where is it ends in a secret [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► lab somewhere deep in the bowels of [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► Apple yeah mac pro 2013 Tim Cook says [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► once again not that there will be a new [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► mac pro 2013 but that people who are [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► disappointed that there is no mac pro [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► apple will have something for them in [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► 2013 i could just could just be faster [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► cpu could be the middle finger yea vote [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► anyway i patiently wait for 2013 [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► contained wait and so they show the [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► little thing here's the macbook lineup [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► now they've got the heir of the pro and [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► the pro with retina display like they [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► lumped it into those three bins the [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► heirs and the pros are all basically you [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► know by implication non-retina because [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► they're still selling the 13-inch non [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► retina macbook pro on the 15 inch [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► non-retina mac or probably guessed for [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► people who want optical drives or for [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► people who can't afford the the ones [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► that have the retina display but it is a [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► pretty good spread of price like the air [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► started a thousand the macbook pros [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► without retina start at 1200 and the [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► with retina started 1700 and the visual [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► identity is like there's black frames [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► around the pros retina and non-retina [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► like around the screen and the air is [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► still have like the aluminium color [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► around the screen and much thicker [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► border around the air so it kind of [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► makes them look older and cheaper you [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► know they're getting kind of long in the [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► tooth but uh I i said it's there if that [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► is I think a very intentional I think [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► that's the distinction it's if it's a [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► Retina Display currently if it's a [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► Retina Display it's going to get the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► beautiful black border and if it is the [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► air it's not but the non-retina pros [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► still have the blood more enjoy his [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► gambling lack is like is like pro pro or [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► it could be a transition what we'll find [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► out when the retina has come out if they [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► have suddenly have a black border around [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► them then there was just the new look [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► they were going to our [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► took a while to transition but thickness [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► order that makes it look cheaper kind of [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► John were you as surprised a little bit [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► by the fact that the macbook pros [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► non-retina are still there were you [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► expecting them to be replaced because [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► there's not much difference in price [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► there's only in the case of the 13-inch [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► I think there's only maybe 150 to 200 [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► bucks difference in price I'm not saying [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► that's not a lot of money to spend a [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► difference on a computer but do you [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► think that the non retina macbook pros [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► are selling well would you buy if you [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► were buying a laptop today and you [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► decided it wasn't an air is there really [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► much of a decision for you like wood [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► could you see people buying a 13-inch [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► MacBook Pro without retina and my [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► impression right now is the non-retina [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► pros are still around for the same [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► reason the 17-inch was still around with [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► that with the pc card slot for such a [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► long time remember those years though [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► he's like and if you still want a pc [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► card slot you're forced to get the 7th [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► like that battleship hung around for it [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► seemed like a really long time and we [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► just stopped paying attention to it but [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► i think there was a class of customer [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► who wanted that machine an apple was [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► giving them an extra year or two or [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► wherever it was for them to phase out [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► and i feel like this is the same way but [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► in this case it's with the optical drive [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► like it's the only reason you would [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► really buy those not not because they're [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► cheaper like you know i think it's [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► because the optical drive because as you [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► said if someone is buying a pro a couple [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► hundred dollars like as they need it for [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► their work a couple hundred dollars [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► isn't a big deal and if you don't need [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► it for your work well an error is [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► probably a better machine for you [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► because who cares if it has all this big [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► fancy power and everything and the [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► larger screen stuff like that so uh [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► who's going to be still buying those [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► it's like well it is people who are both [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► price conscious and still want the [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► optical drive one important person who's [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► like this is my mother who loves the [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► optical drive and she has a current 13 [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► inch or a pre retina 13-inch MacBook Pro [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► and she uses the opp to drive all time [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► she rents audio books from the library [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and puts them into her drive there and [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► she gets netflix movies on disk and puts [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► them in and watches them on her laptop [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► I've all my dad watches sports or [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► cooking shows and without that optical [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► drive it's you know you've got a problem [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► like I've told her them going away she's [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► like well just gonna keep using this one [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► until they all go away you know I'm [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► there they're slowly going away so if [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► if she was in the market for a new and [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► she's not her thing is working fine but [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► if she was she would definitely buy the [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► ones that with the absolute drive [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► because they're a little bit cheaper and [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► you know she doesn't to spend too much [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► money and they had the optical drive so [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► these those pro still serve a purpose [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► for some period of time to sort of [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► transition the the people who really [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► want an optical drive of it and I think [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► it does help them flush out there the [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► price points even if people end up [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► bouncing to the lower or higher end and [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► don't actually land on a little middle [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► and it's nice to have a range you don't [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► want to jump right from the air is to [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► like a seventeen hundred dollar pro with [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► retina right yeah you're getting one of [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► these 13 inch ones right I hate laptops [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► I don't like laptops ah but it's yeah [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► that's nice machine looks where can we [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► do our first sponsor before you continue [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► go for it shutterstock.com 20 million [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► stock photos vectors illustrations video [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► clips that the best stuff they have a [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► really cool thing when you go there you [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► want to put to get a little package of [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► images have you spent any time on the [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► site John I do you can say no I have not [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► you have not well you're not right now [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► creating anything new that would require [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► images or vectors or illustrations or [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► video clips but if you are this could be [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► an iOS app could be a website you could [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► be want to make some swag for you you're [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► going to run a booth over at the [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► macworld right not me you're not running [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► the booth no no booth all right well if [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► you are you may want to get some artwork [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► you may want to have some things on [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► display this is the place to go you get [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► a global image collection they're adding [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► ten thousand images a day from folks who [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► are all over the whole world you have [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► truly international image library to [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► choose from you can download them in any [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► size you pay one price you get the [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► highest quality images for one price and [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► nickel and dime you and even have an [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► ipad app that you can use to help [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► collect and manage your light your [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► lightboxes you're going through this [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► thing you're saying I want this one I [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► want this one this one you put them in [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► your lightbox you organize them you [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► create a package and you buy it you just [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► get one image if you want or you can get [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► a subscription it's whatever you want [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► your design shop you always need stuff [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► like this subscribe it's cheaper or you [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► just want one image because it's a [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► coming up on Halloween you get a blog [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► and you want a cool Halloween header go [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► here check it out why because I'm giving [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► you thirty percent off use [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► dan sent me ten number ten you'll get [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► thirty percent off any package you put [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► together once you find images you like [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► do it all over at shutter stock dot-com [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► dan sent me ten is the code thanks very [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► much them for making this show possible [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► go check it out you'll like it all right [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► please continue sir this is the day of [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► construction trucks driving about my [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► house I don't know where they're going [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► but what's going on in your neighborhood [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► they want to go somewhere at least [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► they're not stopping the D [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► gentrification of your neighborhood has [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► begun it could be street cleaners I [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► haven't checked okay but they're noisy [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► all right Oh Mac Mini the mac mini I'm a [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► big fan of the mac mini John let's play [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► the this would never have happened to [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► Steve Jobs was a lot because that's such [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► a fun game to play it is a fun game and [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► in case to be absolutely clear to the [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► people at this a game is ridiculous I [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► don't like I haven't yet to read a [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► single intelligent thing said in the [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► context of this wouldn't have happened a [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► Steve Jobs is a lot I don't not not sure [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► anything children can be said in that [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► context but ah I'm doing mrs. joke when [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► Phil Schiller said you knew there'd be [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► something called many in this [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► presentation didn't you ah they never [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► would have spoiled the surprise of some [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► announcement later in a presentation of [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► Steve Jobs was alive that is the perfect [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► example that phenomenon because i'm [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► pretty sure Steve hub is it exactly that [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► same thing when he was alive which is [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► sort of the pattern for all these stupid [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► things but anyway that was cute um so [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► Mac Mini they Rev the Mac minion I'm [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► like I know we complain about the mac [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► pro with the mac mini if you were like a [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► big mac mini fan I guess Mac Mini Colo [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► probably is it's like when are we gonna [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► get a mini update what Apple feels like [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► it like cool your jets man you know this [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► is the macbook pros every year and I [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► like the laptop line every year they're [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► gonna do something with the laptop line [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► because those are their bread and butter [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► but the mac mini yeah you know but so [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► the thing with Mac Mini is like when [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► it's at the end of its life time you [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► really don't want to buy one because [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► when it gets revved it's a big leap from [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► the past one and this is an impressive [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► little machine alright so first the USB [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► 3 of course for you as beasley 3 slots [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► firewire 800 still hanging on there yeah [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► what you got a weird that's really good [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► bolt port the Mac Mini has a Thunderbolt [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► port Mac Pro not so much hdmi you know [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► with the acknowledgement of the people [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► who want to use it attached to a TV [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► really fast CPUs I put a link in the [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► show notes of showing the benchmarks of [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► this thing and how depressingly it beats [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► some of the older mac pros in some [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► benchmarks the mac mini beating them at [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► back pros i think was like a 2009 mac [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► pro it is now faster than in some cpu [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► benchmarks up to 16 gigs ram 13-inch [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► retina MacBook Pro can have it but the [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► mac mini can and you know one terabyte [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► hard drive or 256 gig SSD and an option [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► for the fusion drive which we'll discuss [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► later these these minis I've thought [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► about getting a mini for just two [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► attached to my TV for a while the thing [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► that keeps stopping is one these are [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► pretty expensive like the mini I mean I [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► guess it's kind of stayed the same price [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► so it probably is going down but it's [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► not like you're getting a mini for 300 [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► bucks you know once you get the men you [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► want you're pushing up close to a [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► thousand so it's not and it's not an [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► insignificant investment and second is [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► I'm still a little bit worried about fan [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► noise I don't have something always on [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► attached to my TV in my TV room adding [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► more fan ever hear that i have a lot of [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► mac minis you never hear the fans those [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► I'd be happier if it had no fan because [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► i love the apple TV yeah but i don't [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► think the fan maybe the Jackals on the [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► chat room can corroborate this or [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► dispute it but I unless I'm doing [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► something with flash I never hear the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► fan of that thing yeah I'll bet it's [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► quiet but anyway I continue to to I the [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► mac mini warily maybe I can consider [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► getting one to attachment I just keep [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► hoping that like newer Apple TVs will [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► come out with no fans that do everything [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► that I would would be doing with the mac [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► mini oh right way that's cute it's a [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► nice little update thumbs up on that add [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► that extra how do you have any of those [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► anyone minis yeah no no I've always [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► avoided them what what if the update to [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► the mac pro is that they get rid of the [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► mac pro and they have a mini that has [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► just some kind of thing where you can [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► like a drobo style insert some drives [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► and and pci cards i'll be very upset [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► with Tim alright if you did that or on [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► her same basis and I'd say you know Tim [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► you said in 2013 you'd have something [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► for the people who are just wonder [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► there's no mac [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► this is not it and once again to [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► reiterate the reason you can't have this [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► fantasy scenario is because at least for [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► me and I suspect for other people as [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► well that the reason I want to Mac Pro [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► is because i want the fastest available [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► video card in there and the fastest [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► available video cards cannot run over [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► Thunderbolt because Thunderbolt does not [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► have enough bandwidth it's equivalent to [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► like what is like for pci express lanes [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► or something like that I remember the [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► exact numbers but the top end video [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► cards use more PCI Express Lanes than is [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► available in the current version of [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► Thunderbolt so everything else aside the [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► you know possible expensive having [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► external breakout boxes and stuff like [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► bad ball is just not it's just not [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► possible with current technology to get [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► the machine that I want and of course [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► the other people want mac pros you know [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► they want to put in big full-length pci [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► express cards again they probably need [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► more lanes even if you had a breakout [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► box it couldn't you know it's just less [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► convenient to have this big spaghetti of [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► boxes you know we don't want a little [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► neck mini and then connect to you know a [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► thunderbolt drive chassis where you can [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► put for hard drives and then connected [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► to another chassis where you can put two [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► pci cards for your video capture you end [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► up with this big spaghetti of boxes [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► connected with wires you like I can't [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► just package that in one really nice box [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► and give it to me now I fully expect the [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► new mac pro you know the optical drives [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► go away the case gets smaller SSDs [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► feature prominently in the pre-installed [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► hardware again we'll get to the fusion [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► drive in a little bit that's what I [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► expect of a new mac pro replacement and [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► by the way give me retina display and [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► some crazy video card that can actually [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► drive it over some kind of bus I'd like [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► whatever you got to do make it happen [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► right let's look we're all signed up for [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► for 2013 so um fingers crossed but for [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► now on the desktop realm we've got the [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► new imac with yes they said was like the [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► people consider the imac the flagship of [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the neckline it's like you're just [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► you're just rolling over in your grave [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► when they said that I me it is like [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► psychologically like if you if you ask [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► the general public name a Mac they're [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► like the imac is that a Mac like that'll [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► come up so they know that it like but [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► you know the flagship does that mean it [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► is a faction well wait a minute the hold [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► on hang on ever since the day the imac [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► came out i would argue that that has [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► been their flagship mac that i'm at the [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► imac has always ever since that first [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► day that has been the mac and then [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► if you had a Steve Jobs and today if [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► you'd asked him cook and if you'd ask [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► most folks on the street if you if you [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► said imagine in your mind a Mac what do [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► you think of they're going to think of [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► an imac now you might not think of the [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► imac but i think most most people still [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► Sam Mac they're probably not going to [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► think of a laptop I think the thing your [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► laptop at this point it's fun yeah you [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► know what you mean you may have you may [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► have a good point there but I bet you [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► that there's more people on the street [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► who don't even know that Apple makes a [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► tower anymore oh yeah I'm sure that's [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► sir you know but like it uh it depends [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► on what you're different hey wait a [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► minute where where the where are the [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► towers in the in the apple store is [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► still there are they still there because [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► I remember you could walk in the apple [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► store and fifty percent of what you saw [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► where the towers sitting up on top of [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► the thing with the cinema displays next [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► to them and now it's all ipads iphones [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► and laptops and I wonder if you if [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► there's more than a couple of the towers [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► and they're jackals Andy you've been to [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► a i'm gerry only to apple store recently [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► you've been in there recently I'd be [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► shocked if there was more than two i can [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► remember say i think there might be one [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► I'd be surprised there's two yeah this [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► one does definitely one because I saw it [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► last time i was there which is like a [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► week ago right and if there's two [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► they're right next to each other I think [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► they used to be too and I think now [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► that's probably just one and then the [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► thing next to it is TV with a mini [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► connected to it or TV with an apple TV [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► connect to do or something but there's [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► still one I mean I don't care what's in [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► the apple store on the blind from the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► apple store just you know do they know [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► what I want yeah but anyway in the [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► meantime imac they have a cool imac [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► evolution picture they showed the the [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► seven generations of imax all lined up [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► yeah and that was it was good for [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► getting across the message they want it [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► because you know there's the CRT ones [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► and it's like you know what can you do [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► CRT and then there was the the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► transitional form where it was like we [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► didn't want to shove all the guts in the [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► back of the display because that makes [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► it all fat don't lampshade stop yeah yes [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► that you have a lampshade I did not [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► myself I had one and I should have kept [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► it on a wide and keep that thing yeah [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► that was a great machine I remember when [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► that design came out I saw it in person [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► I'm like I can't [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► you can buy this computer for the amount [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► of money they were selling it for [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► because it looks so expensive like that [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► ridiculous arm thing and the way it [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► worked and looked and it just looked [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► like an incredibly expensive product [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► like it look like oh this is you know [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► some crazy bang and olufsen thing and I [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► can't afford something business it was [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► like 1,200 bucks or whatever was I could [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► not believe that you could get it for [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► that price and so they were like let's [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► let's let each element be true to itself [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► so that we don't want to shovel the guts [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► in the back of the monitor because [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► that's you know the guts they should be [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► squatted note to the ground and so had [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► the little dome thing it was like it was [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► matt finish that's one of the only times [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► i can remember apple doing intentionally [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► like a very matte finish like matte [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► finish white very strange uh and then [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► the monitor let's let the float in the [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► air its essence is that it's thin and [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► free you know and so then they evolved [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► it in the very next revision after the [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► lampshades I didn't do as well as they [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► had hoped they would do uh they said you [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► know we have the technology now to shove [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► the guts on the back of the monitor [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► because then it's not that thick so they [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► show of the guts in the back of the [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► monitor and it was thicker than the old [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► floating monitor on the lampshade but [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► they got progressively thinner they had [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► that little one i like the little brak [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► little black dress model or you know the [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► car in black where they changed the back [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► of the imac to black and in profile it's [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► slimming the girl you see is the silver [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and the black disappears alright optical [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► illusions it's like when you hold your [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► fingers up in front of your eye and you [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► make a really really tiny little pin [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► hole in it improves your vision that's [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► not not the coalition but yes that's not [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► something you can do yeah alright then [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► they made the back back to all the minim [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► it's pretty thin on the current models [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► alright so then I said nay let's show [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► you the new iMac and they put up a slide [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► that did this very careful reveal of the [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► edge of the imac coming up on the the [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► video on the slide it was super duper [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► thin and they showed the picture of it [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► which is also from that strange awkward [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► kind of angle showing look at this thin [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► edge it's five millimeters thin ah and [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► phil was very excited about that and [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► kept showing it in the show notes i have [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► linked to an image from our technical [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► article which i also linked that is a [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► picture taken by the arse guys when they [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► are at the apple sort of meet and greet [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► play with the hardware type thing and it [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► is not from that very careful angle [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► chosen to show only the thin edge and [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► not the back and you can see the the [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► back end of this thing I tweeted the [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► thing earlier it's like does this [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► aluminum back make me look fat because [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► many angles it looks like there's some [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► sort of bulge or tumor or you know this [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► junk in the trunk in the back of that [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► imac and the the thing about that thin [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► edge it's like what does that buy you [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► it's not a laptop dude do I really care [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► how thin the edge of the imac is if I [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► have to see this big lump in thing from [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► any angle where I happen to see the back [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► now Phil's right he brought up the [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► picture the old ways like look here's [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► the old one doesn't look humongous and [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► thick and ridiculous monks you see the [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► new one and is true it does you look at [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► it from the side you're like oh my it [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► starts to look like the old white imac [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► with everything on the back of the [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► monitor like man that thing just looks [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► like a giant battleship now compared to [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► this new one but at a certain point I [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► wouldn't want it to continue to [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► compromise the the insides of this thing [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► just to get the this the thin edge [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► because like I again beyond aesthetics I [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► just don't see what that buys you but [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► it's purely sort of as a vanity feature [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► it's purely a dozen less of a cool and [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► thin now if the whole thing was that [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► thin like then we're getting somewhere [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► like because then it's like oh that's [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► it's getting crazy really is completely [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► elemental but speaking of the elemental [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► stuff the next part of this which was [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► actually addressed on the thing is the [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► chin lots of people are talking about [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► this and apples like we love the chin [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► the question is why the hell does the [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► imac have a chant at all yeah it is not [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► there's no physical reason like you [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► could put all the guts in the back of it [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► there's nothing in the chin like the [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► chin is health then at this point [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► there's nothing of significance in there [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► you could put everything that's in and [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► I'm a completely behind the screen and [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► it would look like a really cool display [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► yeah do you think that's why they do it [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► so it does not look like a display so [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► this is the distinction between the imac [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► and and display yeah it's kind of weird [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► to me that they insist on that [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► distinction because for their iOS [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► devices they don't do that they don't [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► say we've got of an apple somewhere in [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► the front of this device right they say [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► like the whole front is just like it's [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► you all you see is the screen and if [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► they could you know if they only put [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► edges on there for you to grip and of [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► course you've got the home button but [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► there's no place like dedicated to [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► branding and the chin is dedicated to [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► branding is that it is a differentiation [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► and branding [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► you're not just looking at a monitor [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► this is an entire Apple computer see the [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► apple logo or in the middle there it's [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► an apple computer then chin keeps [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► getting smaller thinner less prominent [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► all that's all good things but maybe [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► they feel like if they take that away [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► there's not enough left to brand the [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► thing as an apple computer or as they [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► think iOS and the devices themselves are [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► iconic enough I might just start to look [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► like a monitor but anyway they did [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► emphasize that the back panel and the [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► chin are now like fuse together with [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► this what is it friction-stir welding [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► some crazy thing to basically make that [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► one piece which leads me to believe i [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► haven't seen not the ifixit teardown yet [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► actually they're not out yet so they [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► can't do one but it leads me to believe [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► that you've got to suction cup the glass [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► display part off and that's how you get [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► it all the insides like the back doesn't [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► come off the front comes off and it's [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► not glass it's fused to the right so the [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► display comes out and then you get it [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► all the guts of the thing now these [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► things are though to some degree a [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► little bit less well the the larger the [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► 27-inch one can go up to 32 gigs which [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► is the first time in the history of the [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► imac unlike the the disappointing to you [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► 13-inch MacBook Pro which can be only [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► retina which can be only eight this can [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► go up to 32 gigs in a supported Apple [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► configuration and apparently this is the [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► first time that Apple has supported such [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► a configuration that you could have gone [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► with like third-party RAM and upgraded [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► your imac to 32 gigs but it's not [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► supported by apple now it's sank fully [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► sanctioned yeah I think that's just [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► keeping pace with like current Ram [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► requirements like it is ridiculous for [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► any desktop machine to max out at 16 [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► especially like the top of the line [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► because once you get a top-line imac [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► that's starting to get pretty expensive [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► this has led some people as I see like [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► that there the thing that replaces the [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► mac pro for you is just going to be a [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► really really fancy iMac I hope that's [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► not the case because I don't think [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► there's room in the back of a display to [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► put a extremely high-powered full length [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► of video card and you know these imacs [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► their laptops with the giant screen [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► attention exactly using laptop [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► motherboards laptop CPUs laptop GPUs for [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► the most part except for maybe like the [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► very top end one is probably too hot to [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► put [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► any laptop except for some crazy [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► alienware gaming thing but they're not [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► it's not desktop caliber stuff in there [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► it's certainly not the crazy server [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► caliber stuff that's in the Mac Pro's [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► you know ECC ram and server CPUs and all [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► that stuff um still the 21.5 inch on the [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► 27-inch i think that the resolutions are [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► the same 2560 x 1440 for the 27-inch the [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook pro retina has more [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► pixels than the biggest imac you can buy [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► again you know reten I maks-2013 we're [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► still waiting we're talking about that a [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► couple shows ago I didn't think they [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► would be here this year looks like they [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► won't be not really surprising the [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► 27-inch is still a nice monitor even [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► when it's not retina but we're all just [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► waiting all right the anti-reflective [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► coating Leah this is the one they [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► emphasize the ID reflective coating on [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► with plasma deposition I like that I [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► like the lamination I like the [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► anti-reflective coating this this imac [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► really is the how Mike really has been [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► getting better and better the you know [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► ignoring the bulge and the thinnest and [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► silliness you sit in front of this thing [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► you just see a big display in front of [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► you it's all one piece it's light yes [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► it's a laptop slap to the back of the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► monitor but it's a really nice laptop [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► slapped to the back of a really nice [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► money I think I'll have to see in a [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► person to decide how much the Bulge [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► bothers me aesthetically how are you [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► gonna be looking at the Bulge depends if [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► you're in an office you know see people [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► sitting around in the office and people [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► walking around the office they see the [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► backs of these machines a lot I mean [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► Apple makes the backs of them very nice [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► look like I have a 24 inch of Apple LED [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► display at work and most people just see [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► the back of it and the back of it looks [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► nice I think the back of this straight [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► arm will look nice but from the angle it [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► starts to look lump and I'll have to see [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► when a person I don't know and it just [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► bothers me because I'm I worry that if [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► you're gonna make compromises for [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► aesthetics make sure the aesthetics are [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► good right and I'm not sure they're [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► compromising much for the aesthetics but [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► I worry that's the trend like that [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► someday they're going to say let the [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► next one let's make it like the whole [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► thing five millimeters thick well to do [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► that we have to make you know these [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► silly compromises yeah I don't know and [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► at this point also i feel like the leg [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► that holds it up can we should shove the [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► internals into the five millimeter thick [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► legs that holds it up like what is that [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► like doing there seems like wasted space [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► can we get this this screen to levitate [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► it like they're really trying to boil [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► these things down to the [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► most essential like even the leg they [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► tapered the front of the leg like I'm [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► sitting in front of a 23 inch apple [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► cinema display now in the front of its [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► Littlefoot the little input is not [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► tapered it's just as thick but the front [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► edge as it is throughout the entire [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► thing and they several years ago they [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► tapered them all the tapered their the [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► imax and all the monitors stuff like [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► that because they just like how can we [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► reduce this DB even less than their it [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► so that's their mission and they [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► continue to execute on it the dual mics [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► appear on this one you got the USB three [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► two thunderbolt gig Ethernet SD card [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► still there still rocking the SD card of [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► course no optical i don't i wouldn't say [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► all they had to get rid of the optical [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► isn't it so thin no they're getting [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► really have to call no matter what don't [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► don't kid yourself and if it was it for [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► those of you who are stuck in the past [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► this is quoting phil schiller yes you [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► can get an optical drug so no [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► pussyfooting around that if you're stuck [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► in the past you can pay apple $79 for a [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► fifteen dollar drive mechanism and an [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► aluminum case gotta love the margins on [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► that one that's us be your super drive [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► but i mean with the desktop i think it's [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► reasonable like that's what i said to my [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► mother like you know they're getting rid [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► of all the optical drive so this [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► probably gonna be your last machine with [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► an optical drive I said you know they [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► sell an external one just like I'm not [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► going to do that because then if you [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► have laptops you like uses it on a [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► pillow on her lap on the couch in front [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► of the TV you can have this thing [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► dangling off of it off to the side it's [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► just silly but with the desktop if you [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► really need an optical drive you don't [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► have to get the Apple one for 80 bucks [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► likewise another one I'm sure you get [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► something that works but or just get the [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► Apple on for 80 bucks it looks nice and [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► matches the machine but that is reason [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► but you just put it down next to the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► machine there's nothing else on your [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► desk like this is just what looks like [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► the monitor their wireless mouse and [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► keyboard it's a very clean environment [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► even though I hate that wireless [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► keyboard because of the half-size arrow [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► keys lack of home and end blah blah blah [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► but we and you know you're stuck you're [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► stuck with a keyboard you can't possibly [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► replace it yeah well I like what I'm [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► saying is I wish they had a full the [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► Apple you know aluminum keyboard the [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► full-size one yeah just make a wireless [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► version of that that's exactly you know [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► they used to have that the others right [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► they when they were white and plastic [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► curtain yeah yeah but you didn't do you [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► like those as much as aluminum no I [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► never liked those keyboards in fact my [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► macpro can't the whatever keyboard my [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► macpro came with my keyboard and mouse [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► I didn't have not used for I think any [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► of my tower Macintosh that look like [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► cheese grater I always just leave them [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► in the box and I use my own keyboard and [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► mouse maybe maybe this one I guess the [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► aluminum keyboard i'm using now must [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► have come with this mac pro but i never [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► used those white ones and yeah not not [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► what I like but I think most people like [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► the little tiny wireless keyboard with [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► the half-size our keys maybe they miss [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► home an end of their pc user and or [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► maybe they just figure out the FN key [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► combinations which I also hate but [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► anyway I think it's a reasonable default [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► and I believe you can still choose give [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► me a wired full-size keyboard that's the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► thing when you have a friend buying an [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► imac and you know they're not going to [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► like that thank you little keyboard [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► don't forget when you order it from [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► online change the option for the [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► keyboard what people don't think to do [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► and they end up with this keyboard they [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► have to buy second one I feel sad all [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► right but the most interesting feature [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► of the za of the iMac which maybe you [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► want to responsibly where we talk about [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► is the fusion dry fusion drive I was [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► hoping you would talk about the fusion [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► drive and our next sponsor is hover com [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► simplified domain management John this [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► is your kind of domain name registrar [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► this is your kind of thing it's clean [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► just a simple white page it's got a [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► search box you enter in the domain name [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► that you want the internet phrase in a [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► few key words it will it will tell you [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► if the domain name you once available [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► and make suggestions based on the [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► keywords or other domains and it's as [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► all artificial intelligence stuff they [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► got robots they get all of that behind [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► the scenes that will help you come up [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► with it you find the domain name you [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► want you just click the little plus box [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► and you check out you register your done [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► it's not going to try and sign you up [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► for a whole bunch of different things [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► you don't want now though sometimes send [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► out an announcement and you just uncheck [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► the box in your settings when you're [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► done and you don't never see that again [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► somebody emailed me well how come they [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► sent me an email well once in a while [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► they'll give you an update I like the [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► update some people don't turn them off [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► that's not the point the point is this [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► is the simplest most straightforward way [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► to register a domain ever I love these [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► guys use and constantly have a little [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► domain problem I don't think it's as bad [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► as Merlin's but I i do ready to start a [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► bunch of domains all the time they make [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► it simple free who is protection they [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► have this amazing domain name transfer [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► valet service so that if you're [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► transferring [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► from another registrar you keep the time [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► you already have over the other [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► registrar when you transfer which is [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► nice and when you're done with that [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► transfer you get the whole new year or [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► whatever that you signed up for and [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► they'll handle the whole process for you [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► seamlessly highly recommend these guys [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► you get it you know they have all the [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► dot-com net org all that stuff they also [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► have a whole bunch of the other tlds as [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► well of course my favorites ad on TV you [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► can go to hover com / dan sent me you'll [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► get ten percent off your order whether [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► it's for the email hosting just regular [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► domain name registration transfer [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► anything you name it hover com / dan [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► sent me or just entered an sent me [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► you'll get ten percent off thanks very [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► much to accom all right let's talk about [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► fusion oh I i sent you anything no [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► yelling before the show d I'm ready I [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► got it ready alright so I'll google [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► entry so on hypercritical episode 17 [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► mysteriously titled intruding gooseneck [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► this was from may of 2011 we talked a [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► lot about storage and hard drives versus [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► SSDs and mandles whole thing about SSD [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► rely reliability and at one point in the [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► show we were discussing how you can like [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► manually set up storage to divvy it up [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► between whether you want put everything [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► just like your iPhoto library and a big [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► disk could put the OS on an SSD and [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► stuff like that and so here's what I had [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► to say it's some point during that [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► conversation what you would want I mean [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► if you had to just describe the ideal [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► situation what you want is look I want [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► to install these two things I can get [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► lots of storage cheaply on a spinning [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► disk and I can get lots of fast storage [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► or you know less fast storage on an SSD [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► so I want to stick both these things [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► into my computer because I feel like you [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► know it's economically feasible and what [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► I want to happen is to the computer to [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► put the things that I frequently use on [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► the SSD and the things that I less [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► fescue me use on the other drive and I [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► don't want things to be spread across [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► both of them I wanted to just manage my [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► storage in a way that makes the overall [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► the net effect is my machine feels [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► faster than it would have had just had a [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► spinning drive but has the same amount [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► of storage or more than it would if it [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► had an SSD yeah so in that clip i just [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► go i have my ideal scenario and what [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► apple has shipped today are is going to [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► ship one [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► fusion drive imax are available is [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► pretty much what i described from you [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► know i didn't talk about specific [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► implantation but from a practical [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► perspective what you want is that [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► solution that people who know how to use [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► some links and are you know computer and [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► ernie can already make for themselves [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► like they'll get a mac that has an SSD [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► and attached spinning hard disks to it [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► and they'll figure out what do i want on [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► the SSD what I want on the hard drive [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► and I'll use symlinks to make it look [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► like one volume and that's kind of [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► annoying to do and you got to be careful [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► that you don't anger any programs that [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► really don't expect those some links to [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► be there one of the common scenarios is [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► if you like update a program that has [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► some symlinks internally inside it and [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► its data files that when you upgraded it [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► overwrites your symlink with a new [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► folder and it loses the connection and [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► there's all sorts of nuances and details [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► that are specific to the applications [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► whose guts your sim linking that you [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► have to be aware of and it's definitely [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► a nerd endeavor and even then even if [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► you're willing to put in the time and [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► energy to do that type of setup which [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► historically i have not been willing to [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► do this is just too much of a hassle for [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► me even if you do all that it's still [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► kind of like you're at the mercy of your [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► own decisions uh and so if you [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► continually use something off the [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► spinning disk it's like ah I wish this [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► was me SSD but now you know you just use [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► a week after week in like oh I got to go [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► i can remember to get set the symlinks [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► that's not there anymore but my SSD is [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► getting full so maybe you have to move [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► something else that i don't use that [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► often it's just a humongous hassle you [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► want the operating system to do this for [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► you and that is the promise of fusion [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► drive you can order an iMac and a mac [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► mini and it will come with a 128 gig SSD [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► like one of those little stick SSDs that [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► are in the same connector they use in [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► the heirs and the other laptops and [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► stuff like that not like a 2.5 inches is [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► the kind of drive replacement thing and [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► also a one terabyte or 3 terabyte [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► regular spinning hard drive and the [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► operating system will make them look [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► like one disk to you and it will move [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► your frequently used stuff onto the SSD [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► when it comes out of the box everything [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► is on the SSD so you're starting off [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► with like that first that first launch [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► experience is going to be really really [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► fast because everything is going to be [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► SSD you might as well it's as if you [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► bought just a plain SSDI mac and then as [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► you use your other software [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► if you don't use some application that's [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► on the SSD it will be migrated back to [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► the spinning disk and if you do install [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► some new software and constantly use it [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► that will be migrated to the SS Dean you [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► don't have to do this and you don't have [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► to say oh I've decided this always has [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► to be there and that owes has to be [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► another place the operating system does [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► note what you do and and you know keep a [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► certain amount of available free space [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► and not overflow the SSD and your [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► shuffle stuff around and I think that's [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► a really great experience in terms of [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► performance and what you get for your [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► money because like we're all brothers [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► and pass shows were all just waiting for [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► you know affordable one or two terabyte [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► as steel like that would hold all my [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► stuff but our stuff keeps growing and [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► even though the price of SSDs keep [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► coming down or just it's taking a long [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► time for them to match up in the end by [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► the way the size of hard drives keeps [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► going up and the price keeps going down [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► and hard drives as well so it's like [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► well maybe maybe it's just never going [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► to turn that corner or Never but you [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► know maybe that turning that car is [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► going to take longer than we thought so [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► let's do something in the interim to [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► have some sort of hybrid solution this [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► is definitely looks like a feature that [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► you would expect to wait for a major [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► operating system update but the fact [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► that it's being released now makes me [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► think that they wanted it to be ready [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► for mountain lion and it just wasn't [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► yeah and the the evidence in this [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► direction is that the wdc session on [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► file systems I think I told this story [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► before when I was like coming into it as [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► I was coming from lunch or whatever and [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► everyone told me all in the beginning of [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► this thing they said something that they [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► they said they had something that he [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► wished I could talk about that they [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► couldn't then they did the rest of the [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► presentation and i went back and watch [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► the WIC video and they do this little [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► tease in the beginning like oh you know [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► so the file system there's some new [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► stuff that we can't really tell you [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► about but here's like a review of the [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► stuff we talked about last year and [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► presumably that this was the stuff that [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► they couldn't talk about and that makes [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► me think like those guys like really [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► wish that they had it ready for mountain [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► lion because then they could have talked [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► about at wwc but at by the time WC [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► rolled around they said you not going to [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► make it you're going to get pushed off [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► oh god dude we gotta wait for 10.9 no [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► you don't we'll do a mid you a major OS [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► feature and a mid-year OS update tied to [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► a single machine or two machines in this [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► case so that is pretty weird an [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► unprecedented but it just shows that [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► Apple if it's important enough Apple [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► will not hold its features for major OS [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► revision just say you know what forget [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► it would just work [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► from the imac the imax coming out we [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► wanted to have fusion drive same thing [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► with the mac mini let's just ship it [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► with presumably ten point eight point [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► three or whatever they're going to all [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► the ten point a point to has some [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► support for it baked into it already uh [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► now the question on everyone's mind is [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► all right so that's the high-level [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► overview of how this works that's the [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► experience the user gets fine but how [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► does this actually work internally there [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► have been lots of other solutions that [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► try to combine cheap big capacity [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► spinning storage with much more [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► expensive smaller capacity solid-state [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► storage to give you sort of a hybrid [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► solution one of the early ones is the [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► these hybrid hard drives it would be [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► like a regular spinning hard drive it [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► looks just like a regular spinning hard [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► drive but on the little circuit board [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► that's attached to the top of the hard [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► drive there is some amount of flash yeah [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► yeah not a lot like the one the one i've [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► heard a lot about and read reviews of [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► back in the day was the seagate momentus [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► xt comes with four gigs of flash on the [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► thing is a review i linked in the show [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► notes from an antec from 2010 that's [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► when this drive came out at least when [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► it was reviewed and on this drive the [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► the flash memory the little SSD on the [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► circuit board acts like a reed cash so [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► any time you read some information it [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► goes in that read cache and it read it [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► again it doesn't have to go back to the [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► spinning disk it's already in that [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► little cash there and it's a persistent [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► cash so like you could turn the drive [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► off and turn it's not like just like a [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► ram cash because all drives have [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► something a ram buffer that's like you [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► know 16 megabytes 13 mega for gig SSD [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► that will hold your most recent reads [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► but rights avoided that s is the entire [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► leap you wrote it just went directly to [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► the spinning disk it did not write into [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► the the flash memory so your rights were [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► just as slow as they would be on a [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► spinning dish but your reads for the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► stuff that you read often in theory [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► would be faster I was kind of surprised [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► when I read the sign and tech review [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► because the original reviews i had read [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► for back in 2010 we're like yeah like [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► it's all right but it's not like if you [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► really want good performance get an [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► actual SSD and it's kind of expensive [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► and like it didn't seem like a good [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► compromise like the four gigs isn't that [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► much and you kind of have to do stuff [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► with it's sort of prime the pump and [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► there are times when you can knock out [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► contents of that four gig cash if you're [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► not careful or if your ass isn't savvy [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► or the firmware isn't good where you [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► just read some big file like they do [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► they do things to try to make it not [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► have these bad conditions but it's app [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► it's a dedicated piece of hardware that [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► like as far as your computers can start [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► it just looks like a hard drive that has [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► weird performance characteristics but [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► there's no operating system involvement [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► it so there's only so much you can do [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► and you're sort of at the whims of the [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► firmware to be intelligent about [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► managing that little 4 gigs of NAND [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► flash on the thing of something I read [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► and tech review that I wasn't robe is [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► that if you defrag your hard disk that [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► resets all of the the knowledge about [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► what should be in the flash memory kind [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► of makes some sense because it's [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► probably done at a hardware level like [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► which you know logical addresses are [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► cached on the cash and which or not and [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► if you fiddle with all those logical [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► addresses since rights don't go through [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► the flash memory now you're screwed with [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► their cash and it resets things but I [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► never liked that I looked into those [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► when they were available and I thought [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► this is not a good compromise for me in [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► terms of price versus performance the [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► next thing that came along this is in [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► May of 2011 is that Intel's chip set I [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► don't keep up with Intel chipsets but [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► for the PC world if you're into you know [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► building your mother boards are worrying [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► about what motherboard you think has [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► until z68 chips that include something [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► called Smart Response technologies SRT [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► which does not stand for street racing [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► technology or the car fans out there and [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► again I'll link to the antec review of [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► this and this is unlike seagates thing [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► because both reads and writes go through [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► the the SRT system SRD system would let [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► you hook up like an actual SSD and an [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► actual hard drive and they would try to [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► like use them both to make your thing [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► faster so rights would go through there [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► and so would reads but this was more of [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► like a cash rather than what fusion is [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► apparently doing so it had two different [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► modes one of the modes was it would [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► behave like a right through cash where [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► every time you write you have to write [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► to the SSD and you have to write to the [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► hard drive the spinning disk before you [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► before you're done so that would make [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► your rights all exactly it slow as your [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► hard drive because that's going to be [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► the gating factor but it would mean that [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► every time you did it right if you did [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► subsequent to read you could read that [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► the SSD because it was put there when it [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► was written and what does the other mode [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► the other mode is like a ripe right back [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► thing we're able do the rights to the [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► SSD and then eventually those rights [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► will go on to the spinning disk and [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► that's slightly more dangerous because [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► what if you do it right to the SSD and [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► then something happens before work is [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► written back to the disk then you know [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► you've lost that data because if the SSD [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► is dead or something like that in all [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► these scenarios described so far the [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► size of the storage you have is equal to [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► the size of the spinning disk so on the [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► SRT thing since it's just used as a cash [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► if you have a one terabyte hard drive [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► and then like a you know SRT excellent [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► lets you use 64 gigs of some SSD or [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► something you have a one terabyte of [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► storage it just uses 64 gigs of your SSD [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► as cash up to 64 gigs so if you have a [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► much bigger SSD you can divide your SSD [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► 64 gigs is used for caching for your [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► spinning disk and the rest of the SSD is [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► use just plain old SSD that shows up as [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► a different volume and that's the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► maximum you can use there but it doesn't [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► increase the size of your thing because [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► any data that's on the SSD in theory [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► with the right back mode you know [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► eventually but in the other mode always [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► will be on your spinning disk your [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► spinning disk is where your date is and [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► is adjust the performance enhancement in [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► no time do you need this SSD for your [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► system to work provided every right [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► that's on it has been written out to the [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► the spinning disk now the fusion drive [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► one is like what it says fusion [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► combination of the two things if you get [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► a fusion drive and you get 128 gig SSD [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► plus a one terabyte hard drive your [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► total volume size is one point two [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► terabytes it it's the union of all that [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► storage the stuff that's on the SSD is [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► not on the spinning disk and the stuff [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► that's on the spinning disk is not on [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► the SSD plus or minus any ferrying in [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► between all right ah and that is a [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► different scenario than both of these uh [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► that an attack was the only one to get [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► the first one to get any details out of [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► this visit like Apple didn't really [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► reveal any details there weren't any [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► white papers up but they talked to the [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► people in the press room afterwards and [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► he found enough people to give them some [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► information about the thing [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► the most interesting technically the [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► hell he got is that there's a 4 gigabyte [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► write buffer on the SSD so that anytime [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► anything is written to the the fusion [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► drive the union of these two things it's [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► written into that right buffer which [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► means that your rights are really fast [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► right and eventually those rights to [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► that buffer get either spilled over onto [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► the spinning disk or kept on the SSD [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► according to whatever policy that the [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► thing is using to decide what stays in [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► the SSD and what doesn't so this has the [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► advantage of that right back mode of SRT [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► where your rights aren't gated by the [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► speed of the spinning disk you can write [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► really really quickly because all your [TS]