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00:00:00 ◼   ► it was like a bunch of guys like on the [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► side like looking at you but now looking [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► at you but listening to you but looking [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► like they're not listening to you and [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► that happens in real life right this is [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► hypercritical weekly talk show ruminate [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► on exactly what is wrong in the world of [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► Apple and related technologies and [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► businesses nothing is so perfect that it [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► cannot be complained about by my friend [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► n yurs co-host of the show John siracusa [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► I'm Dan Benjamin today is Friday October [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► 19 2012 to episode number ninety 90 it [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► likes to thanks very much to our three [TS]

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00:01:05 ◼   ► please let them know that you heard [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► about them here on five by five hello [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► John siracusa of Massachusetts how are [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► you today I am just dandy let me ask you [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► a quick question before you before you [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► dive in mm-hmm this packs thing this [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► Boston packs thing yes you go to that [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► right I do all right I'm gonna go this [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► year you are well I will see you there [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► if you are willing to sit on long lines [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► or visit me wha set on Long alliance [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► because that's what I do it packs as I [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► sit online oh yes let's let's do it or [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► in line I don't know which one is the [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► one that people from New York are [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► supposed to say I don't know in mine or [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► online what are you going to be doing [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► that just visiting for your own [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► amusement or are you going to be doing [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► some sort of business related stuff I [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► have never been to any kind of packs and [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► this this seems like a good opportunity [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► to both hang out with John Siracusa and [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► the Syracuse ins as well as going to a [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► really cool thing [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► is this the good one to go to or do you [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► a my supposed to go to pax West I go to [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► this one Union you know I go to this one [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► cuz it's in the same city where I live [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► and I hate to travel yeah so it's not [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► the good it's not really the good one [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► yeah pax prime is the west coast one it [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► was the first one I'm sure that they [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► will say the first is the best and blah [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► blah blah from what I've never been [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► dating them except for East and having [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► but having read a lot about the other [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► ones it seems like East has the best [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► convention center because we have this [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► new gigantic Convention Center and there [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► there's actually enough room for 60,000 [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► people where you don't feel like it's [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► completely overwhelmed and I think the [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► west coast one like they've maxed out [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► their convention center there but it's [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► not quite as nice or spread out that is [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► my impression from what I've read okay [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► but it seems like the same people are at [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► both things so you're not like missing [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► anybody by going to use to Wes although [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► last year Scott Kurtz wasn't at East but [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► that was even on vacation in Australia I [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► think you would have missed West for the [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► same reason all right but anyway I think [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► I think you will enjoy it somebody will [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► get some tickets if you like waiting in [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► line you better hurry up you know that [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► are the tickets did you were to get them [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► because I think thority the three-day [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► passes already media passes are gone but [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► that's just a steel you just save you [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► save like 30 bucks yeah but if I'm [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► flying out there anyway I'm in 30 boxes [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► I'll just I just won't eat one day well [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► you better hurry up and get the one-day [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► passes I'm saying they sell out [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► eventually as well I'll get them before [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► before the end of the day so what do you [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► want to see when you go like besides [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► like seeing people other people you know [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► waiting in line which isn't that [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► exciting what do you want to see at the [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► the convention itself well I mean there [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► are so many cool things that are going [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► on there that they haven't really [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► announced what the official schedule is [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► but everything I've heard about [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► especially from you you talk you've [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► talked about this but they have a well [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► you know they have one in uh well I [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► guess yeah yeah Australia now they're [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► going to have one in Australia yes that [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► was announced at PAX East or no I PAX [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► Prime I believe this year you're [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► supposed to have one here coming here [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► maybe to texas austin texas i heard i [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► think they're doing probably gonna do [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► England first or somewhere in Europe [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► first cuz the international people are [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► tired of traveling to different [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► countries to go to these things yeah so [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► South anywhere in the south is a is a [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► stretch and I like that the first [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► question in the [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► general faq is can I bring my nerf gun [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► lightsaber other weird thing that's the [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► very first question in the fact so these [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► are my kind of my kind of people I feel [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► like I need you know I need to connect [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► go to connect with the folks that done [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► that I love I don't know if they're your [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► kind of people like I didn't touch you a [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► lot of people touch each other one no [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► and they then they're my kind of people [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► they don't recognize me at all which is [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► refreshing from in some ways and you [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► know so it's a different it's a [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► different crowd in that respect but [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► they're my people in that they're mostly [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► gamers and I identify as a gamer so [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► that's why I feel at home but no [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► identifies as a game identify as gamer I [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► do ah yeah so as we get closer I can [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► give you some advice on the on how to [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► get in to see the things you actually [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► want to see and what you will have to [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► sacrifice to do that right okay your [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► sanity your your well-being right eating [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► or drinking crash it's been a while [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► since I've been a Logan though I don't [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► know if I can stomach it just may [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► remember that you will not get your [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► luggage until an hour after you have the [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► part of the plan let's just assume that [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► going in don't don't like get all mad [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► about it just like get out of play and [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► say well I luggage will be here an hour [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► what should we do while we wait all [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► right bringing board games one time I [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► was at Logan that's a long story forget [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► it it's one time at band camp all right [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► let's get into the show here let's do it [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► yes time for some follow up follow up a [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► few I had a number one with a bullet on [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► the last show talked about the magazine [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► Marco's new publishing venture and I [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► mentioned he had something called the [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► feature which was selected items from [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► instant paper and things that have been [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► Instapaper ah and something else called [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► the brief and I said that was part of [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► Marcos the empires and I you know what I [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► thought that it was too and it turns out [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► it he he says it's not yes it's not so [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► like I that's what I get for trying to [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► do show notes links like in the the 15 [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► minutes before the show starts he posted [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► about it and the brief is a site by [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► Richard dumb dunlop Walters who is the [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► designer and editor of the feature right [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► so Marco pause on his side and right [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► those words I'm like oh this must be [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► some affiliate thing but it's not it [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► just happens to be the same guy who [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► designs and edits the feature but the [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► brief is his own thing so Marco is in no [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► way affiliated with the brief other than [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► he knows the guy who made it so full [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► credit to Richard Dunlop Walters who has [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► a hyphen in his last name and the [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► description of this to remind people is [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► a daily briefing of technology news [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► worth caring about edited by Richard [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► Dunlop Walters so there you go i will [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► put that in the show notes if it's not [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► already there and I apologize for Miss [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► tributing that but you can see how i [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► would get confused with the the Empire [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► the Empire yeah yeah second thing I was [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► confused about which I was surprised you [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► didn't catch ah was that I was talking [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► about your visit to the verge and stuff [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► when you went to New York yes oh yeah [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► yeah and I said that you had taken a [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► picture yourself trying to look like a [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► meal dash but yes and it was neil patel [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► and i missed it also because I spent so [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► much time we had a had a great lunch [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► with the Neil out there and and like [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► that just it just I just messed up too [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► like I should have caught that so [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► apologies to both a Neil and Neil I for [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► mistakenly and they're nothing like each [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► other I mean except for the fact that [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► they live in New York both mostly [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► apologies to anneal because I don't [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► think he would ever dress that way with [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► the witness he like dark like that and [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► and this is the shades yeah he's much [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► too dignified here's an amazing dresser [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► I'll tell you what you if you're dude [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► and you want to look good the Neil dash [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► will set you straight he's the man all [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► right well quaffed as you would say some [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► tent follow up tent dentists not ten [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► Tostan through that's terrible ten [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► thought I oh the tent protocol [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► decentralized protocol for stuff that [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► looks kind of like a planet or Twitter [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► or whatever yeah and the eternal debate [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► over whether if someone has 30 million [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► followers do they have to send out 30 [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► million HTTP POST request when they make [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► a post all their followers see it or if [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► users are aggregated if like a whole [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► bunch of people are on the 10 is 10 [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► hosting server yeah you only have to [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► send one post request to some URL at 10 [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► that is and it will make sure that [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► everybody who is on [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► I ass gets and according to Daniel [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► ciders right now it is one post per user [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► so you would literally have to do 30 [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► million posts if you have 30 million [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► users follow certain running 30 million [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► followers regardless of how many were on [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► any individual server but he says a [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► future update a tent will optimize [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► multi-tenant server communication so [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► this is an optimization I have not yet [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► made but they are planning on it so [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► there you have from the horses now [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► actually circling back to the magazine [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► one little bit a follow-up on that I [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► don't know why didn't I think I did have [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► a something I was knighted skipton one [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► other interesting thing about the [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► magazine which I believe Marco will talk [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► about on this week's show because he [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► said like last week he talked about the [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► magazine and the launch and everything [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► and he said this week is going to talk [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► about already call it design or [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► something yeah and this falls under the [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► category of design I guess when you're [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► reading the magazine and there's a link [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► in one of the articles that you're [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► reading you tap it like i said it brings [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► up that little side of the last show [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► brings up the little one third of the [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► screen preview of the link or pop over [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► on the ipad but say you decide you want [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► to actually go to that link and you tap [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► on the title of the link inside the [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► little preview it will open the link in [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► a web browser ah but in version 1.0 and [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► 1.1 of the magazine reader application [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► if you have the chrome browser installed [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► the chrome for iOS browser and it will [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► open the link in chrome if you don't [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► have the chrome browser install it will [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► open in safari and i think marco was [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► very surprised at the number of people [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► who like me have the chrome browser [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► installed but do not use it or prefer it [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► right so soon as i go to follow a link [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► it's like why is this opening first I [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► thought is this some custom browser view [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► that he's like all right no that's [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► Chrome yeah like it's it's switched [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► applications on me uh so he's getting a [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► lot of complaints about that I think I [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► could have told me we get a lot of [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► complaints about that because I'm one of [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► those users and I'm like out you know I [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► can't be the only person who's like [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► crumbs that let me download it now just [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► leave it there case maybe I needed or [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► something only works in chrome or [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► whatever or safaris Mobile Safari is [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► crapping out on me yeah but I don't you [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► know there's no it's really iOS is fault [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► because there's no way for you to set [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► your default application for different [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► protocols or whatever right but that's a [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► shame and I think based on the [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► complaints that he's getting i assume [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► he's going to revisit this policy of [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► just [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► chrome is installed open your think rum [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► I think people who do like chrome and [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► try to use it as their main browser [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► appreciate this I can see what he's [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► going for like isn't that thoughtful it [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► knows that I had I use chrome and it you [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► know unlike all those other thoughtless [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► applications this one opens my links in [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► chrome is exactly what I want thumbs up [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► but seems like the flip side of that of [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► the people who just happen to have [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► chrome installed they have no recourse [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► except for to uninstall it which seems [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► you know right heavyweight oh let's see [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► next bit is on the f-15 believe it or [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► not did you see this bit of all I did [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► not what is tell me what's going on with [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► the f-15 the mcdonnell douglas f-15 [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► eagle strike eagles and a strike eagle I [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► don't know something like that anyway [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► Dave M rights in it says on [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► hypercritical 86 at some point for god [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► knows what reason thank you you asked me [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► what I thought the top speed of a Hornet [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► wasn't I totally blew it right and and I [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► guess something that was closer to what [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► the top speed for what would the f-15 [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► would be and then you look at the f-15 [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► and said okay you're right about the [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► f-15 like that must have been what you [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► were thinking out whatever and I think I [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► listed off like Mach 2 2.5 to be a 15 so [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► Dave M rights and to say that the author [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► James P Stephenson learned this is not [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► exactly true that the f-15s top speed is [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► a mock 2.5 in the preface to his book [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► which I have linked in the show notes [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► called the Pentagon paradox Stevenson [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► was told that the f-15 can theoretically [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► fly mock 2.5 but this is tactically [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► irrelevant and so here are the details [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► of this that he's gleaned from the book [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► when the air force flew and at 15 at [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► Mach 2 they had to make many [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► modifications to the aircraft that would [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► not be done in a tactical situation such [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► as removing all weapons including the [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► bombs missiles as well as the internal [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► God and its ammunition refueling [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► immediately before accelerating to mock [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► to landing immediately after reaching [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► Mach 2 because the aircraft was [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► literally out of fuel at that point in [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► addition to accelerate to Mach 2 the [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► pilot has to hit a button on the control [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► stick called V Max and the author learn [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► nothing nothing to do with emacs now the [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► author learned that whenever the vmax [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► button is activated piece times [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► regulations say that the engine can only [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► be run for five minutes of that setting [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► before they have to be replaced and [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► overhaul as two engines in 15 so the [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► conclusion is that the Mach 2 speed is [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► only good for air shows for beating [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► their Navy counterparts [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► for impressing non inquisitive members [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► of Congress of course the flip side [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► conspiracy theory of this is they'll [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► never tell you what the real top speed [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► is this is all sandbagging and really [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► they don't want that to the Reds the [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► Soviets to know what the real top speed [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► is but at this point with the Cold War [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► long gone I totally believe that this [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► type of thing would happen and that they [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► would list top speed for bragging rights [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► and he's kind of like it gives with cars [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► as well where well if cars is a little [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► bit different but like the the Bugatti [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► Veyron I figure the top speed is like [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► 158 or something like that it's [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► something ridiculously high but to [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► actually achieve that speed you have to [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► go into a special mode that involves [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► like parking the car stopping it putting [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► like it's not like putting like the two [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► keys like in the submarine thing and [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► never turn the two keys at the same time [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► and just you know okay I'm going to go [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► to top speed run then of course you need [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► a fairly straight flat road with no [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► potholes that runs for miles and miles [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► for you to get up to 258 but technically [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► yes the Bugatti Veyron can go over 250 [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► miles an hour if all these conditions [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► are met oh and I believe that the Veyron [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► runs out of fuel like 10 or 15 minutes [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► that speed as well it runs listing the [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► the Veyron speeding km/h because of the [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► top gear episode yeah we don't we don't [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► do that it's miles per hour miles per [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► hour King miles are king they always [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► will be all right um so I think that's [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► it for follow up today that's it yeah [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► does you think of something I'm missing [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► on the hall and do it's your show no [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► let's say I mean 15 minutes is [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► reasonable for all up is it not 14 [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► minutes yeah sure it's gonna be a short [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► show you know the drill now right yeah [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► will be a short show I do have a sponsor [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► before we go on topics I yes I always [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► have a sponsor ready to go at a moment's [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► notice in the first one today is harvest [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► let harvest take care of the back office [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► tasks so you can focus on delivering [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► your best to your clients what does that [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► mean it means they handle things like [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► time tracking that's one of the toughest [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► things especially if you're you know [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► you're in business for yourself or you [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► have a bunch of folks who work for you [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► you have a team that you want to manage [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► their there and in in the office with [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► you or their remote doesn't matter you [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► know if time tracking was easy everyone [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► would do it well that's kind of [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► Skol they want to make it easy they want [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► to make it something that is simple and [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► straightforward so what do they do you [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► can start a timer from your web browser [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► or bowser you have a desktop they've got [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► a mac OS 10 client you can even run it [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► on your mobile device so obviously you [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► can use a website there you can use the [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► iOS app they'll get an app for [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► everything these guys and then if you're [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► the person who's in charge of keeping [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► track of what those people are doing [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► they have stuff like visual time reports [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► that will help get your project done on [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► time and I'll help you keep track of the [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► budget how much you're spending what [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► you're spending it on you do all this [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► stuff and they have professional [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► invoices you can send to your clients [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► and if you have payment processing stuff [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► whether it's paypal or authorize.net [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► whatever you can tie it in you can [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► accept payment right on your website now [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► and is that it's very handy that's how I [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► any let you tried three free for 30 days [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► if you don't love it you just let the [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► trial expire you don't even have to give [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► them a credit card I love that too but [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► if you do like it and I think you will [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► then there's a code for you first of all [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► go to get harvest calm / 5 by 5 to [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► create your trial when the trial expires [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► you want to keep using harvest enter the [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► code 5 by 5 a check out you'll get fifty [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► percent off your first month no matter [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► what plan to pick and that's good [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► through the middle of November so do [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► this soon go try it out get harvest calm [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► / 5 by 5 the chat room has been [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► discussing the veyron David Smith no [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► underscore today this is the how do we [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► know it's the same dude it's not the [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► same dude I think the same one that the [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► the veyron super sport does 267 miles [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► per hour and the regular 253 in kc list [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► says it based on his recollection the [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► secret sequence to achieve top speed of [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► the Veyron is it likely there's a [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► keyhole in the door jamb and you have to [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► put the key into there and twist that [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► first and it lowers the suspension and [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► prevents the spoiler from just deploying [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► does all sorts of other things that [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► right important for top speed run hey [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► you're on boy that's an ugly cars and [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► you know what you know what that looks [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► like mmm no not off the top but I rayner [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► it's ugly take my word for okay it's a [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► shame that the fastest car in the world [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► should be so ugly mere decades ago [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► mclaren f1 [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► was not ugly it was also the best card [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► now we didn't now we just had the veyron [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► it's a shame all right so I had I want [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► to talk about Twitter and app.net usage [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► and stuff today but to other topics have [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► snuck their way in ahead of it oh I [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► think the first one wants to talk about [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► the October 23rd apple event I don't [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► know how much you've talked about this [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► on other shows only little we talked [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► about an unamplified and I was you know [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► I was trying to kind of get out of gym [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► what what it might have what else might [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► be happening besides the ipad junior but [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► he was not really it was not really [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► willing to say yeah we should talk about [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► that all i'll talk about being the ipad [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► mini not junior first and then impede [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► other things okay so close it oh noes [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► october twenty third this is the apple [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► event that we're all expecting to happen [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► in october biz like they're going to do [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► one for the iphone 5 and then in october [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► there's gonna be another event and [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► that's what they're going to introduce a [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► little ipad so people were getting [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► worried that like you know we haven't [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► heard anything and it's getting into [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► october now when are they gonna announce [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► it and then there was the you know maybe [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► this just not going to be an October [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► event which I have to say I was starting [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► to get on board with that because as [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► October wore on and there was no [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► announced I'm like maybe they just [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► didn't make it for the holidays and [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► they're just gonna have to wait till [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► next year and then at the ridge next [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► year would be like march or something [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► you know because you have to like you [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► have to give a grace period around [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► Christmas so that people don't hate you [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► because they you know i got an ipad 3 [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► for christmas and then like in january [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► they replace the whole line of ipads and [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► you feel terrible about this this [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► paperweight you got of christmas is [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► useless might as well just smash it to [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► bits right but it looks like they're [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► gonna make it and I can't imagine that [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► they can have an october twenty third [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► event and say and this stuff isn't [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► shipping until the new year because that [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► would be death and it would be [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► incredibly stupid an apple does not do [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► that so they've got something to [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► announce that's going to show up for the [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► holiday season this year we all assume [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► one thing is going to be a smaller iPad [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► which we've been calling the iPad Mini [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► or the ipad junior or whatever this is a [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► 10 a.m. pacific time in san jose some [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► people talk about why the heck is it in [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► san jose because they usually have their [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► events in San Francisco but you know I'm [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► is just booking for venue or something [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► so this is another case like the iphone [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► 5 where we've talked about this little [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► thing for just just months and months [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► now right we have spyshots speculation [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► about the specs for just every maybe [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► it's even been more than what seems like [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► forever we've been talking about this [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► and it's another case where it seems [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► like we know everything about it going [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► in right just from like all of us [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► obsessing over it and rehashing the [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► specs and the price point and stuff like [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► that that we're like we've converged on [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► something and we all expect to see this [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► event on the twenty-third and not be [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► surprised right do you do you expect to [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► be surprised no anybody know it seems [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► like we've all got it nailed down now [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► that could be a time for Apple to [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► surprise us but you know all right so [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► anyway to review what we all think the [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► specs are going to be 7.5 inch diagonal [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► display at 1024 x 768 which is the [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► original iPad and the iPad tues [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► resolution that is not retina is 163 DPI [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► instead of 264 DPI for the ipad 3 and [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► based on our previous hashing this out [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► it's like well one all the buttons be [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► too small if you take the original iPad [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► screen and squish it down to from you [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► know 9.7 27.8 so 85 and it reality is [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► they won't be too small all will do is [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► make the touch targets 44 pixel tall [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► touch targets exactly the same size as [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► they were on the original iphone it's [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► smaller than they are on the current [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► crop of iPads but it's not smaller than [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► things are on the iphone so it's still [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► within apples on self mandated [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► guidelines that don't make anything [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► that's smaller than 44 points on the [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► screen and of course Apple itself [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► violates that all the time like the or [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► at least visually violates that i'm not [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► sure what the actual activated touch [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► target areas are for things like [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► Notification Center when you swipe that [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► down in iOS 5 or 6 the little clear [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► targets of revisions or like I found in [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► the new in iOS 6 in the new version of [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► the app store there's lots of touch [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► targets there we did like you want to [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► disclose more of a description of a nap [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► and you have to tap the word more with [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► like a little triangle hanging down from [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► any can't like maybe that touch target [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► is 44 pixels but big is very real time [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► to nail [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► I feel like if they are 44 pixels it's [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► it's psyching me out to seek to not see [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► some 44 pixel tall point tall box that I [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► have to hit and I have to like you know [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► I came just for that word yeah but [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► anyway basically we've all agreed months [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► ago that this screen that we're talking [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► about if it is a reality fits within all [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► the guidelines it doesn't doesn't change [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► doesn't make things too small to hit [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► it's not ridiculous to assume that an [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► iPad could be pushed onto a screen this [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► size people won't have to write rewrite [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► their iPad applications that work as is [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► like you know everything's a go there [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► there's been some debate about whether [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► we'll have Wi-Fi and 4G or just Wi-Fi I [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► guess I guess this is my last chance to [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► make prediction so I have to give my [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► predictions about I believe that screen [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► rumor I believe there will be a Wi-Fi [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► model and there will be also a model [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► that also has 4g why do I think that [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► because they've got the chipsets to do [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► it and all the ipad line has always had [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► this and I think it's great advantage [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and I really hope it has this so it's [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► it's fifty percent me hoping that it has [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► 4g because I love that feature of the [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► ipad line I wish the ipod touch hasn't [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► had it in fact and the other 50 [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► percentage has always been that way and [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► they've got the parts to do it right [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► pricing is the real like the only [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► remaining mystery because of course you [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► know pricing we don't have much to go on [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► there we can't it's not going to be [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► there's going to be parts leaks and [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► we've seen leaks of the pieces of the [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► case in the screen and all sorts of us [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► stuff but pricing you know according to [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► all these stories we've heard from [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► inside Apple can happen really at the [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► last minute like nothing you need to [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► prepare for you don't need a factory [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► forward or whatever someone just decides [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► this is the price point then you just [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► update all your databases and push it [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► out at that price point ah the easy [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► answer for pricing the one that getting [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► the most supportive it if you just pull [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► the entire Mac nerd community is that it [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► will be 2 99 for a 16 gigabyte Wi-Fi [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► version that I think is the easy answer [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► like I don't want to have to put my [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► stick my neck out in any way it seems a [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► little bit too expensive but then again [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► this doesn't apple stuff always seemed a [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► little bit too expensive Apple can [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► command a premium blah blah blah right [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► like this this device presumably [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► would be able to command a premium over [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► the other devices that are similarly [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► sized the nexus 7 the kindle fire stuff [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► like that my answer is my conservative [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► answer is 249 for a 16 gigabyte Wi-Fi [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► model that that's my conservative answer [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► because I feel like 299 the whole point [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► of this product as far as I'm concerned [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► is to hit a price point it's not to make [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► something smaller it's not to bring new [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► features or anything that it's to hit a [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► price point and you know if that's its [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► reason for existence Apple can totally [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► support a 249 price for the 16 gigabyte [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► model and I think that would that would [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► make more of a splash that's my my [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► conservative answer my optimistic answer [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► is 199 416 can go by Wi-Fi I also think [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► Apple can at that price that's [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► optimistic because just because they can [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► hit that price it's like don't we get [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► most of the benefit at 249 that we would [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► have won 99 because realistically all [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► these models have been talking about the [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► bottom of the line 16 k by Wi-Fi the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► apples going to upset you know people [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► are going to buy the 32 right there you [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► know or they're gonna buy with 4G or [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► like this this is to get you in the door [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► I would love to see a breakdown I don't [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► think Apple gives us breakdown cuz its [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► competitive info but I would love to see [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► a breakdown of how many of the [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► SuperDuper low-end do they sell versus [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► how many people are they able to upsell [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► into like a 32 gig or the 16 gig with 4G [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► or whatever right like that gets you in [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► the door to say oh you're shopping [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► around for Kindle Fire well did you know [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► there's a new iPad app it's the same [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► price it's not your you're gonna walk [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► out with with the iPad it's gonna cost [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► you way more than you would have spent [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► on it on the kindle fire but it'll get [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► you into the store once you see it maybe [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► you can you know figured that out some [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► people in the chat room and I've seen [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► some other people asking about it in a [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► gigabyte model I just don't see that [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► like the apples getting out of the egg [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► egg business and I there would be a [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► terrible shame if it did 19 298 gig like [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► that's that would be an apple move to [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► give you to try to put the low-end [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► machine to be a crappy one that no one [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► should ever really buy you know like the [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► he's holding wouldn't Apple I mean just [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► think about this wooden Apple rather [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► have something in people's hands even if [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► it even if the experience is aunt and [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► you know the experience would be fine [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► with an eight gig fine what if you're [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► you know for a student for afro a junior [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► high kid eight gig is gonna be fine I [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► disagree i think the [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► a gig is just fine i think apple should [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► absolutely make one especially [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► especially if it gets it into that price [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► point because then they can come out and [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► say you know what we have a device here [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► and the device is good and it works well [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► and it's under 200 bucks like that night [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► come on it can't happen though because [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► like you're right that it's gotta have a [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► device for apps and everything but you [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► can't do anything with me and it you [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► can't have your ID ruins collection on [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► there you can t use about a season of TV [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► shows modify you know a place to eat [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► that's a geek solution there I don't [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► feel like people want media like one [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► movie blows you and the reason I think [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► this is because like we said in the past [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► shows storage management on the ipad or [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► an iOS is still kind of a pain and geeky [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► like there's not a nice experience when [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► you fill up your iOS device there's not [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► an easy way for you to figure out what [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► to do right I can imagine people just [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► being like just just fumbling and [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► feeling frustrated or whatever and since [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► they drop the eight gig models of the [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► phones like now the minimum phone is 16 [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► I've got to think that that wasn't there [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► it wasn't their time where the minimum [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► ipad was below the minimum phone I made [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► me remember i may be misremembering that [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► maybe the Jackals can can tell us now [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► just like that didn't they duel in a gig [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► 3gs or something hmm like yeah then i [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► think a gig is is it as a non-starter [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► and really how much more money do you [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► think it costs Apple to get 16 gigs or [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► has eight gigs of flash like just in the [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► component costs like it's not they don't [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► have to put it this way they don't have [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► to go eight gig to hit 199 swilling [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► onsets Williams says all ipads have [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► started at 16 yeah i'm just saying i [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► think i think there is still room for an [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► eight gig i would not buy this no one [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► should buy it no one but you never know [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► and didn't it Horace dead you put up a a [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► chart about this that you met did you [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► mention that if not we should put that [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► in and I thought you mentioned that but [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► they came up with a he came up they it's [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► a he iOS portfolio price distribution [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► and he does in his chart have you seen [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► this out well I have not seen how a [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► message this to you he tweeted but [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► sometimes I don't know if you tweeted it [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► but it's going to be in the show notes [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► i'm also dropping it into the chat for [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► the Jackals [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► and I'll put this into the show notes he [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► basically just kind of kind of goes over [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► all the variants and what he thinks the [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► ipad minion he lists an ipad mini with [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► eight uh the the W next to the eight [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► represents whether it's Wi-Fi there's a [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► w-4 Wi-Fi only in ac4 cellular he lists [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► an ipad mini eight gigs with Wi-Fi only [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► and he prices it at 249 I'm guessing as [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► it's mid between the two hundred three [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► hundred so 250 bucks is his guess at the [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► entry level I mean like I know I'm calm [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► almost kind of contradicting myself [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► because if I say this is really about [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► hitting price point like isn't it [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► important trampled to get down as low as [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► they possibly can and if they just if [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► they just feel like we've just got to [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► have those fat margins and we you know I [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► just I'm still I'm still an TI I think [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► they shouldn't make one and I think they [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► won't make one with a date I think [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► they'll start a 16 but I could be wrong [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► but anyway regardless of the storage [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► size those are my pricing predictions [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► 249 is my conservative answer at 199 is [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► mathematic for the bottom line whatever [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► the bottom line happens to be I really [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► don't think the bottom line is going to [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► be 300 even though that seems to be the [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► way that everybody is leaning because I [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► really truly believe that the purpose of [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► this product is they at a price point [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► now as we've discussed some past shows [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► and people keep turning up you can't [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► sell it for 249 or 199 the the the [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► entry-level good ipod touch is 299 let [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► me just double check this to keep [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► getting the price around but that's [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► right isn't it that does sound right to [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► me he goes what's look it up ipod the [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► chat room the Jackals are irate that [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► there be that an eight gig would even [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► exist yes I'm irate of the day by the [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► way you can see the shows as show notes [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► and links by going to five by five TV [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► such hypercritical / 90 that will show [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► you all of the links and stuff that we [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► are referencing so if you want to follow [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► along at home you can do it that way [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► yeah so the big modern ipod touch the [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► one that comes in colors with the tall [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► screen and everything like that it [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► starts at 299 and that's for course for [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► the 32 gig on they still sell the old [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► ipod touch 4 199 which the small screen [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► and and stuff like that so the question [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► you possibly sell this bigger thing [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► you're selling an iPad a seven point [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► eight five inch iPad and you're going to [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► sell that for it in my optimistic case a [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► hundred dollars less than the cheapest [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► modern ipod touch you can get isn't this [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► small ipad isn't that just an ipod touch [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► with a much bigger screen and battery [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► how do you take a device put a bigger [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► screen and battery on it and then sell [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► it for fifty or a hundred dollars less [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► than something else so there's a couple [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► of answers that first is we've all been [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► talking debating whether the ipod ipad [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► mini is going into the bottom line one [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► is going to come with eight or sixteen [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► but certainly no one thinks at the [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► bottom of the line ipad mini is going to [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► come with 32 right but the bottom line [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► ipod touch does come with 32 so right [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► away you got half the memory chopped off [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► their right and the memory price doesn't [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► increase like linearly it's not like [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► when you go from eight to 16 it costs a [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► certain amount and then when you double [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► again from 16 to 32 across the same [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► amount it you know you're adding 16 [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► verses adding eight so going from 16 to [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► 32 is a much bigger jump in terms of [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► component costs especially since then [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► you're starting to push up into the [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► maximum size of the individual chips [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► that can give you I forget how many [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► chips these four 32 is a one-chip not be [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► one chip at this point but one 32 gig [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► chip is way more expensive than then 116 [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► and it's also more expense than 216 and [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► you know there's space constraints [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► inside the ipod touch and stuff like [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► that the second thing is the screen on [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► the ipod touch i assume will cost more [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► than the screen and the ipad mini [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► because the screen the ipod touch is [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► retina first of all it's really really [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► good quality second of all uh and you [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► know it's it's it's basically the iphone [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► screen and it's a new product like they [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► no one has made this screen before in [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► these particular dimensions the stock [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► pitch with this quality with the [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► integrated touch sensor this screen was [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► created for the iphone 5 and also the [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► ipod touch whereas the screen we're all [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► assuming is going to be in the ipad mini [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► uses the same display technology as at [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► least the same you know pixel size as [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► many many press I OS products doesn't [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► necessarily mean that this screen wont [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► also include an integrated touch sensor [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► like it doesn't have to be the same [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► exact screen as was in the 3gs or in one [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► of these other non retina things just [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► scaled up but I have to think that [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► they're not going to say you know [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► the ipad mini means the iphone 5 quality [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► screen they said that about the current [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► line of ipod touches they're not going [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► to say about this so i think the screen [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► even though it's bigger that component [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► will actually cost less than the ipod [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► touch screen or the iphone 5 screen the [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► battery in the mini has to cost more [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► just because it's bigger i'm assuming [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► there is some premium for [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► miniaturization getting a battery a [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► small bag or whatever but you know i [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► think just because it's going to be so [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► much bigger battery has to cost more the [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► motherboard the chipset the camera all [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► those parts etc I assume they're going [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► to be the same as they are and the ipod [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► touch i guess they could cheap out by [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► making the camera cheaper then they're [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► not they're not above doing that they've [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► done it with the the ipod and the ipad [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► lines in the past right there got to be [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► some kind of compromises but i think [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► their main compromises that they're [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► going to be willing to have much lower [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► margins than the low end model and hope [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► they sell people the higher end one but [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► the main reason that this is not a [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► problem for this thing to be fifty or a [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► hundred dollars cheaper than the current [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► you know best uh you know the colored [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► ipod touches i hate the fact that it's [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► keep saying that but they keep selling [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► the old one the main reason is known as [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► cross shopping these devices no one is [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► going in and saying i don't know do what [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► like if you want a tablet you're not [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► shopping the ipod touch and if you want [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► the ipod touch you are not shopping that [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► tablet you're not going to go in looking [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► for an ipod touch and say oh did you [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► know for a hundred dollars cheaper you [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► can get an ipad you like but i want a [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► thing that I listen to music of mine I [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► jog or I want a thing that fits in in my [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► purse or in my pot like no one is cross [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► shopping those devices like it I don't [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► even think people will notice it as a [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► difference in price and if they do like [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► it won't make a difference it's not it's [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► not as if this causes some sort of [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► consumer confusion and outrage over [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► pricing this outrageous how how can this [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► ipod touch be so expensive when this [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► bigger other thing that is totally not a [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► replacement for this product you know so [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► I I have no people asked me on Twitter [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► and stuff like that how do you think how [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► will this affect the pricing of the ipod [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► touch how will people react where I [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► think the two things have no relation to [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► each other in the consumers minds and it [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► just won't affect anything and no one [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► will care and in in reality like when [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► you buy the ipod touch the bottom line [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► one is 299 if you buy that that's it [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► you're all set like you don't have to go [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► okay well really [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► double the memory and really I should [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► think about getting 3g and you know all [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► this other stuff and I should buy a [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► smart cover for it and I should do all [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► like the ipod touch at 299 that's it [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► you're all set that is a very excellent [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► device which I'm probably going to get [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► you don't need to buy anything for it [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► you don't need to think about upgrading [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► it where is when you go into the store [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► looking for your 1990 249 ipad mini [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► first you're gonna be like well maybe I [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► should get 3 to negative like well I [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► gotta go smart cover forward and what [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► should I think about the 3g model the 3g [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► is about a hundred bucks more hundred [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► twenty-eight well that might be handed [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► like you're not walking out of there [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► like i think most people are going to [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► walk out of the average selling price to [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► use a sum a simcoe stuff here is going [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► to be higher for the ipad mini despite [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► the fact that starting price i think [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► will be lower than for the ipod touch [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► the name there's another thing that is [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► really not that important it's not even [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► less important than the price but it's [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► one of those things we can't guess that [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► because that's something that Apple [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► totally can't keep under wraps and they [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► do I know you like ipad junior I'm [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► hopeful it's not gonna happen but I know [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► it's not gonna happen but it won't stop [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► me enjoy it for enjoy while you have it [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► do you think the mini if you had to pick [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► one would you say right now it looks [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► like mini is going to be the one that [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► people pick I'm more comfortable [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► eliminating names and so I'm eliminating [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► junior I'm i think i'm gonna eliminate [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► air I Gruber just posted that he thinks [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► its air I I believe in his philosophy [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► like we all agree that like he's more [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► about this thing being thin and light [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► and I'm sure they will emphasize that I [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► still think it's all about price point [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► but that's not that's not really what [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► you make your ad campaign on ipad the [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► new iPad Mini now super cheap like you [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► have to say something about and they're [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► gonna say look it's light you can hold [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► the one hand and read your book and it's [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► great for your kids cuz or whatever uh [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► but I don't think they'll use the air [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► name well here's what here's what he [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► says that his guesses in order number [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► one ipad air number two i pad number [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► three ipad mini yeah i'll get back to [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► air uh ipad with nothing that seems like [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► a bridge too far to me but you know like [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► we guess that just taking it out of the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► ipad is fine because [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► huh I don't know it could happen right [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► ipad nano was his third one uh no he [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► says the first one is ipad air second [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► his ipad 3rd his ipad mini yeah many [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► even though i keep calling it that it [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► just seems natural for me to call it [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► that I have trouble believing the apple [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► with naman that so here i have just [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► eliminated i think every possible name [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► we could think of I don't think is going [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► to be the name uh if I had to circle [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► back the air I have to think that like [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► my feelings about air have a lot to do [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► with me not liking the name and not so [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► much Apple not doing it and if I think [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► about how they're planning on marketing [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► it obviously like they can't market it [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► as a price point thing because that's [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► not good marketing they have to think of [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► some quality of it that sets it apart [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► and if they go with the lightweight [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► thinness and just how you know then air [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► is their name for that but that does [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► seem confusing to me i don't like that [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► the suffix is crossing over from the the [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► world of the symphony has the same [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► problem crossing over from the world of [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► the mackie got the mac mini right nano [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► is the obvious choice that wasn't on [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► that list it's like it's from the ipod [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► around my ipod nano right ipad nano no [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► name i could think of rings out to me as [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► like that's the name they've got a pic i [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► think every name we listed except for [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► junior can work just plain ol ipad mmm a [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► good awake at work i mean people figure [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► it out right because like again getting [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► back to imac i'm at comes in two [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► different sizes and it's not called the [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► imac mini it's just called the imac and [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► you can get it in different sizes so why [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► not just have it called the ipad right [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► is there a hang on it is there a chance [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► that they one of the things that we've [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► heard discussed and it makes perfect [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► sense is that the new ipad whatever it's [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► called is going to have a lightning [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► connector do you think it's possible [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► that they will also announce the larger [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► size ipad without any changes except now [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► it comes with lightning connector [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► instead we should create I should admit [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► that i have not that we have not have [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► productively discussed the name we [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► should move on to what you're asking [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► about which is all right we assume [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► there's going to be as little ipad mini [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► we've all this does connect this does [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► connect to the name and i'll tell you [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► why i'm asking it is this would be an [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► opportunity for them to sort of reen [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► name the ipad the larger iPad probably [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► not the ipad senior although I would [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► very much enjoy that as well the ipad [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► junior and senior we can hope but this [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► this could be an opportunity for them to [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► say hey you know what we love the [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► Lightning connector and so do all of our [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► so to all of our customers so we're [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► switching to the Lightning connector so [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► here is the new iPad and let me show you [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► the two new models or sizes of the ipad [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► we have the 7 inch ipad and we have the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► 10 inch ipad both of them now with a [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► lightning connector here you go and look [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► under your seat everybody gets one do [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► you think they're ready to replace the [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► ipad 3 only with the only change be i'm [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► just saying this the only change being [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► again what if i don't know i'm not [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► saying yes to this i'm just saying what [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► if they did it then this this could be a [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► way that they just say let me introduce [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► is the the ipad and there are two sizes [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► for the ipad and which size ipad do you [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► want do you want the ipad 7 or the ipad [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► 10 or what it you know whatever but this [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► the I I just don't know i think you know [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► again and you're you just making a [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► comparison to the imac III think that [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► you know when you get an imac your which [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► imac are you getting well what size [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► screen and that's the way that they [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► referred to them well the wooden that [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► makes sense to kind of unify the brand [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► of the ipad as well and say what size [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► screen you don't get a macbook pro light [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► and that's the 13-inch you just get it's [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► a macbook pro 13 or is it a 15 or 17 [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► they don't do they make the Seventeen's [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► who knows how long ago to the three come [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► out the ipad 3 i will find that out yeah [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► so it would be so much cleaner for them [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► just read the whole line yeah right [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► because you know they're like they kind [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► of did with the phone it's kind of easy [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► with the fungus is only one right so now [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► all I phones come with lightning [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► connectors much like large 16 2012 yeah [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► that's the release date for the [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► third-generation iPad which is just [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► called the new iPad if if the here's [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► what I think I think obviously lightning [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► connectors are coming to every single [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► product that has that you know it's just [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► a matter of time right so if they you [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► know option one is [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► just bringing out the ipad mini whatever [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► they call it hey that's lightning tigra [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► obviously nothing else does and they get [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► revved on a different timeline and then [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► eventually everyone has lightning [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► connectors less option one option two i [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► think is rev the whole line I and either [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► drop the two which I and replace it with [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► the mini which i think is very likely uh [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► and then bring out a new three with [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► lightning connector but how else you [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► also have to have other changes is not [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► just that it has lightning connector [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► some other changes even if it's just [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► like you know a die shrink a 5x or [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► something like it has to be different [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► beyond just the connector just has to be [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► yeah you know they want to make it [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► thinner if they can or make it lighter [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► maybe that's not possible maybe when [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► they do the die shrink in the 5x they [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► get away with I'm a smaller battery then [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► it's back to being thinner like I do not [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► think your option of like having just [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► the lighting connect range I don't think [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► it's going to happen I see no worries to [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► me which is that shoot too much work for [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► not enough change yeah I like but I [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► agree that it is really weird like can [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► you imagine buying something in in in [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► February of 2013 and like you go into [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► the apple store and you see all these [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► devices with the Lightning connector [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► like all the new ipods and all not the [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► classics i guess but no the ipod nano [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► ipod touch and the the iphone 5 have [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► these beautiful little lightning [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► connectors which are really neat i [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► flayed with them now and then it's like [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► an hour top of the line ipad as this big [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► gaping maw on the bottom of it that you [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► jam this horrible looking printer [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► parallel port type thing into and like [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► and that's our top-of-the-line ipad like [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► how long can you sustain that you know [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► it you know all it's got so much a much [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► nicer screen and it's fast with all this [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► is true but like if right so i really [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► hope they read the three die shrink [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► smaller battery lightning connector [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► alongside the mini but i think they're [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► just going to introduce the mini and let [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► those two one sail off into the holiday [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► season as is and replace them in march i [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► didn't think that makes the most sense [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► what if they call it the ipad 7.85 [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► snappy snappy name very catchy yeah as [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► for anything else retina macbook pro [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► 13-inch and now you had that bee in your [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► bonnet about that last time at the [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► iphone 5 event didn't materialize [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► you know it's just it could happen you [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► know there's nothing preventing it last [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► time you know they have the technology [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► to do that it's just a question of like [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► their priorities and whether they think [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► it's worth bringing out and you know all [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► the other stuff I still wonder how much [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► they're going to want to confuse the [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► focus of the show because if you saw the [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► little invitation advertisement it looks [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► just like the advertisement or the [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► original ipad launch with the paint [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► splatters seems pretty clear I was like [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► we have a little more to show you or [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► something some pun on the thing being [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► small right so the phone one of these [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► iPad little ya know I don't like if that [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► happens we know that Apple's officially [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► entered the we stayed up its neighbor [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► product strategy naming a product naming [TS]

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00:47:04 ◼   ► I had seen the ipod touch and everything [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► yes I've been to the apple store I've [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► seen that many iphone 5 is both in and [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► out of the store my wife has an ipod [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► nano now because she run to replace our [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► old now despite the fact that i don't [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► like that device think it's gross it's [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► actually a little bit less gross in [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► person because it's so darn small a lot [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► of the things that like they're zoomed [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► in on certain design features on the [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► apple website but the actual thing is so [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► small that like oh well that's kind of [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► fades into the background now that the [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► entire thing is small and I'm not [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► staring right at a horrible volume [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► rocker but yeah I don't particularly [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► like the design but it's much better [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► than her extremely buggy old man oh i [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► found that but then i was like it start [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► to get flaky after a while I don't know [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► what it is about them shuffles to I [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► guess I don't know they just wear nanos [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► the nanos are the worst for that they [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► just stopped working it's very weird [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► strange software glitches yes on won't [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► play at the hard reset the thing yeah [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► there you know like it doesn't read the [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► screen doesn't rotate yeah those [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► interesting to see the reviews of that [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► who's at the gay burger I was it was [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► Paul Thurrott I don't know how to [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► pronounce his last name like good Oh [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► Edwin supersite or something a Windows [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► site he loved the new ipad ipod nano [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► thinks it's awesome and then you know [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► the mac nerd sites are like me pain like [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► it's expensive maybe this maybe this one [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► was actually intended for windows users [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► yeah i don't know if i don't but anyway [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► she has a little lightning connector [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► thing and so for the ipod touch and the [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► iphone 5 now that i've spent more time [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► with both of them here's my design [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► complaint about both of them about this [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► new design access more of an aesthetic [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► complaint so the the iphone 4 design [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► with the two sort of Oreo cookie pieces [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► of black glass or white glass [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► sandwiching the that steel antenna band [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► that look and also that feel was [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► expensive to me like it felt it looked [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► felt expensive because the glass was [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► nicely curved around the edges and that [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► the metal was just kind of uniformly [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► colored and you know it just it seemed [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► like something that was expensive right [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► and the iphone 5 people talked about [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► like if you zoom in on it but like a [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► microscope is amazing that these these [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► tiny little details in the amazing [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► precision like that the gaps between the [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► little pieces and a little chamfer [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► around the edges and everything I agree [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► all that is amazing and it's very solid [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► because it's a solid back piece and [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► everything but the fatal flaw [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► aesthetically speaking and feel wise in [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► both this and the the ipod touch with [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► just as a metal back is the seam that [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► goes all the way around the top front of [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► the device right so in both cases you [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► have kind of like a a one-piece back [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► that you know includes both the sides [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► and the back and the iphone has the [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► glass readings on top and bottom but [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► basically for the most of the length of [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► the thing a one-piece back that comes up [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► and then you have a front plate that's [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► put on it and that seam between the [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► front plate and the rest of the device [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► it's microscopically small like there's [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► no gaps in it it's not doesn't it [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► doesn't look cheap or anything like that [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► but it makes like they're as particular [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► on the iphone 5 and even on the touch a [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► little bit like the edges of those two [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► things that meet those are sharp edges [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► they're not rounded and this tiny little [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► sharp it like you'd have to look at [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► under like a you know a credible macro [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► photography to see the tiny right angle [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► ledge that exists between the back and [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► the front but the result for me is when [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► I put it in my hand I find myself [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► fingering that seem title in it and it [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► bothers me like it feels cheaper to me [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► then the you know much chunkier join [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► edge between the pieces of glass front [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► and back on the other thing and also [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► like the lack of symmetry because the [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► iphone 4 was always you know so [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► symmetrical the front glass the back [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► glass same thickness thing in the middle [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► obviously that was a much chunkier phone [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► but that kind of like a glass and metal [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► Oreo cookie of the iphone 4 design that [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► really did feel expense it's me and even [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► those when it's thinner and lighter and [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► you know better in all those ways that [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► one that once seemed and it goes all [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► around the front edge like i don't know [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► what else they could have done because [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► it's two pieces right they got away with [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► it with the iphone 4 because there was [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► three pieces it was the front piece and [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► it was all rounded big chunky smooth [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► glass and then [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► was the metal and then the thing on the [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► back and this like they've made that [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► same as small as they can possibly make [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► it it really is like you can't even [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► imagine a fingernail in there right but [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► it's just not pleasing to the finger to [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► run over that transition and in the [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► device i don't have you found this yes [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► very much like I don't know if I'm being [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► crazy and no no you always identified [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► these tiny little things that once you [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► talk about them though all of our [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► listeners will start to be irritated by [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► him yeah like I bet I have to think that [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► if you were to talk you know Johnny I've [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► or the people who designed this over [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► ever the this that like they would [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► acknowledge this trade-off in this [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► design like yeah the other design hat [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► was better in this particular regard in [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► terms of the feel of how it feels and [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► how it feels more expensive in that [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► regarding the iPhone 5 is you know so [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► beautiful and finely detailed and [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► precise and then you've made that part [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► so incredibly precise but like what else [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► are they gonna do here like to get the [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► old feel for make it a one piece phone [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► like maybe this maybe that's the future [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the thing is one piece and they slide [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► all the guts into it's sort of like how [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► they jam them into the terrible Apple TV [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► remote you know the shove all the gut [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► since you're the one little opening all [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► right maybe they make an iphone there [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► really is one piece because then you can [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► do all sorts of things like that's the [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► thing about the ipod the new ipod touch [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► it has the rounded back and the trim [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► around a metal back and that feels a [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► little better in your hands as well like [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► the curves feel a little bit more [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► pleasing that's why a lot of people like [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► the original iphone because it was [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► curved and some degree 2 3gs cuz it was [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► curved but i'm not totally saying you [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► have to be curved like that's why i'm [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► saying the iphone 4 design was [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► successful in feeling solid and [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► expensive even though it wasn't curved [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► even though was kind of awkward in [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► squarish or whatever just that the [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► transitions felt more expensive and the [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► ipod touch like the whole thing is a [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► little bit cheaper because it's just got [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► the one piece metal back and you can [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► tell it's not as beautifully finely [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► crafted as the iphone 5 but it's got the [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► same scene issue so for me this won't [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► make a difference because when i get my [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► ipod touch and I do plan to get one but [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► I don't have it yet I'm gonna put a big [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► silicone case on it that's gonna cover [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► up that gap and it's not going to be you [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► know I'm not saying this is a reason to [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► not get an iphone 5 or ipod touch and [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► just you know that's my assessment of [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► the design having handle the thing for a [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► significant period of time from you know [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► friends and families the iphone 5s and [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► the ipod touches in store multiple times [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► all that and i visited the tesla store [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► in our mall too it's very weird [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► something only [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► Janus cars yeah in a store they know [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► they have bad them the Model S there [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► they had bidden have the other one there [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► was at the Roadster and they had the [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► cool disassembled chassis things showing [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► like the battery on the floor [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► resurrection everything I brought my son [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► in there thanking he wouldn't it be cool [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► to see like a car disassembled like this [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► he was not interested why do you think [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► that was I don't know they requires some [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► you know maybe the intellectual [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► background of like electric cars versus [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► internal combustion and what will [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► colossally be cool about a car being [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► curious about any of these things is [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► like yeah I maybe had just been in the [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► mall too long at that point that's [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► another possibility so it's a family [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► picture day we've been there for a while [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► that point you do that Sears now I'm not [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► serious is a place in the mall they [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► should be sponsoring the shop portrait [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► simple why are they not sponsor it's [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► weird huh yeah but anyway that's one of [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► those places whether it's just it's not [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► like serious it's just a photographer [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► with the handheld camera and a series of [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► you know back route back drops and props [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► and lighting rigs and all sorts of stuff [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► like that we mostly go because we like [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► the individual photographer who takes [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► our pictures and we always get her to do [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► our things so it's more of a personal [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► relationship than a business really just [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► a trust thing yeah it's very expensive [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► to but you know at what price memories [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► right beyond sorry I suspect all right [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► you want to do our last sponsor you have [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► more I don't know how much you know you [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► threaten it's going to be a short show [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► or 55 minutes in I want to make sure [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► that we get that sponsor you tell me you [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► tell us they want to do it will do [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► whatever you want yeah you should do it [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► not just in case just in case hover com [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► simplified domain management love these [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► guys no regular people think of [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► about.com or net or whatever course you [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► can register those I like the dot CL I [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► like the don TV you can register them [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► all you have an idea for a domain name [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► you know the exact one you want type it [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► into the search box boom you got it [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► serious it's not available they'll show [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► you some alternatives it doesn't matter [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► what you want to do but here's what I [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► want to tell you about today because [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► obviously the whole experience is geared [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► at this place to be simple elegant [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► straightforward they do a lot more than [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► just the registration part a lot of [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► people have domains registered somewhere [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► else well if you use the code dan sent [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► me you'll get ten percent off a trance [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► they do the whole transfer process I've [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► seen a bunch of people on Twitter Santa [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► me oh I just transferred 10 domains and [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► they did the whole thing for me they did [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► the whole transfer for me because they [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► do that they have a domain name transfer [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► valet service you're already a customer [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► you still want to use the thing use the [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► dan sent me when you renew ten percent [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► off and these guys they don't they don't [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► hassle you they don't throw tons of [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► stuff at you and make you sign up for [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► things you don't want they give free who [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► is protection so ever you can preserve [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► your privacy they have a toll-free [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► number to call if you need have you ever [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► need help I use their dns I I do there's [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► another company that I sometimes use for [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► DNS stuff but I'm using them less and [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► less these days because the DNS [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► management that hover has is really [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► really great really easy to use built-in [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► free they also do email hosting not free [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► but you can still get ten percent off [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► dan sent me so check them out hover com [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► such dance sent me great sponsors up [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► there in Canada and thanks very much [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► them for making this show possible [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► however okay all right this is related [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► the next one is related to the October [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► 23rd apple announcement and is also an [TS]