00:00:00 ◼ ► this is hypercritical a weekly talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:10 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/13">TS</a>]
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00:00:21 ◼ ► I'm Dan Benjamin today is Sunday what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/21">TS</a>]
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00:01:03 ◼ ► about it here on five by five hello John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► how are you today didn't just fine on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► the Sund it's Sunday you like this don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► you'd rather do it sunday wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► we're recording on a lazy sunday lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► Sunday afternoon sending some light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/76">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► sounds of smooth jazz some smooth jazz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► can't do the smooth jazz guy's voice no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► can you do it no that's gotta be in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► bag uh I could probably do it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► this is not the time or the place oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/93">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► this is not the time okay it's too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/94">TS</a>]
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00:01:40 ◼ ► smooth jazz voice yeah we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► said anyone I would laid back sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► she'll lay back I mean you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► probably already drunk me no know me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► never yeah uh I wouldn't mind sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► recording I think my wife mines it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/113">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► because now she's gotta wrangle both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► kids yeah well I do this whereas on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► Fridays they're off at school fridays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► they're at school you're home alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/121">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► activities in your house sure better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► your family will keep recording friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► that's a good idea okay and yours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/132">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► mine and they don't have to go turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► the AC in the office yeah so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► we're starting a few minutes late is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/139">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► that here on the weekends and this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/140">TS</a>]
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00:02:30 ◼ ► the weekends it turns off and you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► to go all the way across the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► with your little key card and wave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► key card over a little panel in a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► corner of a wall and that makes the AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► come on in theory i'm waiting for taxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/161">TS</a>]
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00:02:47 ◼ ► it's actually warmer than it sounds all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► right I think I have to try to take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► show this week not slowly let's do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► long it will be relaxed today I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► know like long because I don't have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► of any topics really do tell sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► like a lazy you know like drifting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► the river on an inflatable raft yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► like without the hepatitis or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► you get in those water parks oh and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/188">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► not supposed to be the germaphobe I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► or you're not man enough of those lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► river water poses that they kind of keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► me out of hepatitis in those great now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► can't go to those either what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► waterborne illness that you get in water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/203">TS</a>]
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00:03:32 ◼ ► talking about toxoplasmosis freeze cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/212">TS</a>]
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00:03:36 ◼ ► it goes up your nose and then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► goes in your brain you die cat like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/218">TS</a>]
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00:03:43 ◼ ► episode we gotta we gotta focus let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► bring this back in talk about some tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► so technology this is a big tech show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► yeah maybe we'll start with follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► that sounds like something that we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/231">TS</a>]
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00:03:56 ◼ ► listeners who listen not only to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► week's episode number 88 but also to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► after dark after episode 88 you may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► noticed that the show ended abruptly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► I just wanted to reassure everyone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► it show ended abruptly because I last we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► get a cold and I was once again reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/251">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► for the mute button so i could blow my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► nose or cough or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► instead i grabbed the disconnect button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► which is about a centimeter to the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► of it in my little floating palette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► thing and since that was the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► reconnect so we could have a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► goodbye said I don't worry about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/268">TS</a>]
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00:04:32 ◼ ► not upset or any more upset than usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► exactly that's my secret dan I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► angry yeah so I just I was a Miss click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► and it wasn't worth reconnecting to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/281">TS</a>]
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00:04:52 ◼ ► continue recording and usually and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► have a discussion and those can be found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► at five by five TV so after dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/296">TS</a>]
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00:05:14 ◼ ► those feeds you got think of your feeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/314">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► all sorted out now with the feedburner I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► don't think so we I mean if this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► be on this would be non show specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/319">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► feedburner happened and feedburner does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/326">TS</a>]
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00:05:39 ◼ ► people are are having a problem with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► I don't think it's specific to downcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/341">TS</a>]
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00:06:15 ◼ ► not gotten it to have a problem on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/375">TS</a>]
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00:06:19 ◼ ► some people have so I apologize for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/379">TS</a>]
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00:06:23 ◼ ► already but for some reason if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► haven't just resubscribe to it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► will it will be happy and now that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/387">TS</a>]
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00:06:32 ◼ ► probably always have done we'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/392">TS</a>]
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00:06:36 ◼ ► indeed indubitably as you would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/396">TS</a>]
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00:06:42 ◼ ► internet okay first bit of follow-up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► couple weeks ago we discussed the iOS 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/404">TS</a>]
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00:06:55 ◼ ► pointing out that google is not afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/415">TS</a>]
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00:07:02 ◼ ► will also say well it looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► only way to get pictures at the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/423">TS</a>]
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00:07:07 ◼ ► cars drive on every single Street in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► entire United States so let's just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► that or it sounds crazy it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► one of those you know boil the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/433">TS</a>]
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00:07:15 ◼ ► we'll just do it so that was the smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► and harder without the title the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► I think smarter and harder yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► work smarter and they also work harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► they just bit the bullet and that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► not to be in Apple's DNA so a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► people have sent in feedback giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► examples of where they think Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► actually employed a brute force type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/452">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► solution I mentioned on the show I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► the data centers where they just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► look we need this I cloud thing is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► to be big and we're doing the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► store and we have also stuff we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► just get let's just get make the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► data center we possibly can and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► multiple ones of them apples on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► public about that stuff but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► been trying to do stuff there but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► in that case a couple of people wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► to point out that like as has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► discussed on past shows they don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► what Google or Facebook does where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► decide they're going to build their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► hardware and write their own software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► they're still using you know commodity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► not commodity things like you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► don't know what they're using but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► looks like they're using expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► commercial products like emc storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► maybe one point they were using Sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► servers and now who knows what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► using but they're certainly not as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► Facebook do which is like we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► build our own yeah server hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► certainly not what Google does which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► we're going to make our own server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/502">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► software almost our own operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► not quite i think actually google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► its own build of Linux with its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► kernel and everything but still is Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► so that is still is a little bit of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► quite going the google route to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► recognize that server operations are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► core competency of the company and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/518">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► should be doing it all ourselves of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► you're doing the feeds yourself you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/521">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► somewhere else could do feeds for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► but it's real bummer when that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► drops the ball and then like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► maybe you feel like well it's in speeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/528">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► podcasting maybe we should control that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► arson yeah so I apologize for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► trouble but that's a that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► analogy yeah I mean like it's is works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/536">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► in the case of Apple because they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/540">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► hundred billion dollars and they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► have no excuse whereas your were various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► points running a one-man operation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► you know kind of makes sense for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► not do everything yourself but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► you're expanding anyway another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► people sent in was retail stores that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► bowl was having problems of retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► because you'd go into compusa back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► the day and there would be a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/560">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► max off in the corner covered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► disgusting dirty fingerprints but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► hundred folders name who did you fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► eligos to go on the desktop from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► kids bang in their hands on the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► randomly pressing command n back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► that would make a new folder oh such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► days and no one was looking at them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► if you went over and looked at them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► salesperson quickly came over and sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► you Adele sbox I can't it almost comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► out of my mouth automatically but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► can't say that on the show but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► you know what I'm saying I do or compaq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► s box or whatever you want to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► and so they made well we're gonna try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► do like a an apple store within a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► and we'll talk to the corporate bigwigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► and throw money in their direction until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► they decide they're they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/600">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► sell apple stuff the right way and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► kind of improved matters a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► but not really and they said all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► fine we'll make our own star because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► that's what they were trying to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► they were trying to be like we're not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► the retail business we're Apple we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► computers but we're not a retailer we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► don't want to be best buy or compusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► that's a terrible business to be in why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► we're going to do that but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► they came kicking and screaming to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► realization you know are probably Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► Jobs fit was behind this said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► what why don't just make our own stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► I'm sick of dealing with these bozos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► these clowns trying to sell our stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► doing a terrible job we just made our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► own stories we'd make awesome stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► we'd sell her stuff really well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► try that and you know so they rolled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► McDonald's or walmart it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► there's an apple store in every corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► and they just blanket the entire birth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► but that is you know it I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► this is an example of Apple learning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► take the brute force approach or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► occurring to Apple do that until they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► exhausted every other possibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► like trying to work with partners in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► store within a store thing and years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► years of just terrible retail and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► long did they suffer before actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► biting the bullet whereas it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► goes to it first like they didn't suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► for years and years of trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► out how to do Street View in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/668">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► way they just went right to it instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► we're just going to start this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/671">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► going to take a long time let's just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► it let's not try to do some clever way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/673">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► smartphone photos and assemble them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► together or something like that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► that's cheaper and easier than paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► cars to do it ourselves but retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► stores i think is a pretty example but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► the biggest review the biggest review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► the biggest example everyone sent in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► a preview and that i think is an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► of where Apple didn't try to be clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► at first thing it dragged kicking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► screaming into the brute force solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► right they said we want to control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/699">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► quality of the things we in our App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► Store to be good we want to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► control over the quality there so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► just look at every single application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► with the human like that was their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► there in their initial strategy it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► like they tried other things Brenda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► royal Gordon has a nice email here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/714">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► decided they want to curate an app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► they didn't try the engineer their way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► out of the problem they didn't design a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► language that makes it impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► call private api's they didn't implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► uikit in a way that would make hige [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► violations impossible pig is the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► interface guidelines or port over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► garbage collector and banned pointers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► prevent crashes or require developers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► get their artwork from apple approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/734">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► graphic designer those are all examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► solutions oh well we want to have an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► store where we have just safe apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► means we have to make a new language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► forbid people from calling Pratt no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► we're just going to you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/749">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► call private api's we're gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► human being look at them and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► automated tools of course that they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/752">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► your app through with it check to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► whether you've done these things but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► bottom line is that a human being is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► involved in the process of every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► application getting on to the store that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► also reminds me of something from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► don't know this is still true but back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► in the early days of Google every person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► hired to Google at some point came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► across the the desk of or the notice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► a one of the two order that Sergey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► Larry is it Sergey or Sergey I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► it's Sergei Sergei yes sir gaer larry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► like they would personally approve every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► single new hire not that they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► interview process right there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► whole hierarchy of things behind them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/787">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► but so at some point it went across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► their desk yeah and they would say go no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► go every single person crazy yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► it's it's similarly crazy too I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► it's not like every app went across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► steve jobs is desk but similar the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► every application goes the App Store a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► human being has to look at that possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► multiple and so that is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► best example so especially since Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► didn't try all these weird engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/807">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► only solutions first they went right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► let's just hire an army of people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► course they probably underestimated how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► big and how knowledgeable that army has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► to be and if we continue to have growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► pains now where they pulled all the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► applications in bigand for iOS 6 for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/822">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► tall screen nah I OS X for the iphone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► for the tall screen and so the wait time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► for submitting a Mac application was up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► to like 41 days average or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► like that something crazy like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/836">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► they continue to struggle with it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/837">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► solution first and they're sticking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/841">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► feedback on that topic I still say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► not in Apple's DNA to do what Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► does especially when it comes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► specific things that Google does like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► the mapping things and just about one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► the other brute force examples again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► from google was where they said bushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► let's just scan every book in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► universe which sounds crazy you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► can we get the information on all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► books will just scan every page how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► we going to scan every paper will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► person sit there and turn every page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► then put the thing on the scanner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► Justin Masterson wrote in to tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► that in the smarter and harder vein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► Google did brute force that solution but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► they also did it smarter they worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► harder which means you have to literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► scan every book you know or get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► eventually scan every book but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► smarter part was they created a rig with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► a camera that points down of the pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► of the book that sort of like detects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► the 3d shape of like the curled pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► you know you open a book out the eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► pages curl and you have to have it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► like an IR camera or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► detects the shape so we can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► how to read you know how to OCR the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► it's like basically to unworn at a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► the texas curves inward toward the spine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► the lines are all warped and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► is weird and if you try to feed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► image as is to an OCR application I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► won't figure it out so they figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► the 3d shape of the book and flatten out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► the image and feed to the OCR software I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► put a link in the show notes that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► sent this is the the secret of Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► book scanning machine revealed and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► the patent they got and of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► got a patent on this device that scans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► in book so there's an example of Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► smarter and harder alright the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► that we talked about app.net and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► introduction of net bot yes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► explained dentists don't like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/948">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► calling it that and that sounds wrong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► me it sounds like felon mispronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► tetanus and that's that doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► good doesn't sound good most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► folks should have replied and written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► or tweeted about us I think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► appreciative however you pronounce it of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► your detailed explanation and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► a number of people who said I did I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► Siracusa correctly explained it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► actually part of the final topic AB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► later in the show how did I know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/981">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► 10 20 which is a domain name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► protocol tent itself I think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► remember that things are on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► don't remember everything comes but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► assuming I know about it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► probably talked about at the net on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► show and then someone either tweeted at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► me or emailed back to the show to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► hey have you heard of this 10 thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► maybe use the tent people themselves so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► by me doing this podcast and having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► lot of followers and Twitter and talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► about this stuff a related information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► comes to me because people like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► heard you talk about this you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► this and then i expel it back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► through subsequent podcasts so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► people who hadn't heard of tent before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► listening to the podcast you heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► it because you listen to my show and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► was on my show because I have a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► because I talked about something related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► so this is sort of cycle of influx of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► information and then output again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► repeating is a something i'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► in the later topic the end of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► but anyway during that discussion of net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► bot and app.net said that because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► introduction of net bot which is the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► that port of tweetbot which is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► popular twitter application from tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► pots lots of bots i said it seemed to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► that the introduction of net bot didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► so much cause a big influx of new users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► thirty-six dollars a year or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► whatever but it reactivated all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► people who were already there they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► you know a bunch of people I knew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► most of the people you know the people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► was following they'd been on app.net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► since the funding period like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► part of the funding experiment the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► of pseudo kicked starter thing but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► had stopped posting like they talked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► lot about then at clients for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► and then stopped posting and then net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► bot came along it seemed like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► people tripped up again well Alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► Dubinsky wrote in to say that uh app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► netizens calm is tracking the activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► on app.net and he said it actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► cause a big influx of new users so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► you look in the link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► that links this app netizens dot-com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► thing if you look on october third in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► October fourth you have to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► scroll in the sidebar couldn't figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► out how to get a direct link what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► the total users on app.net and october [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► third and October fourth all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► October on September 30th there were 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► new users added and then on october [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► first there were 278 and a second 512 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► then on the third and fourth there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► 1300 1200 this is a big hump in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► graph right around the introduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► twenty-five thousand users but having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► couple of 1000 you know 1.5 k days that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► is a bump in the graph so it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► that it made new people talk that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► it seemed to me i guess because i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► immediately fall the new users but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► was a big bump there too so ab dot net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► must like that in in the discussion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► decentralized protocol for doing similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► things to what app that netted twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► do i reference to daniel i'm an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► titled something like is a federated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► twitter even possible that discusses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► challenges that have federated and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► that tent auto ins federated but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► basically a decentralized protocol would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► face in providing something like twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► any of us did a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► attributes and I discussed each of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► were giving feedback from Daniel ciders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► of tent and then wrote me and to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► that he wanted to clarify that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► article was not so much here of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► things that that you need to have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► and if you don't have them you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► you're gonna fail therefore blah he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► really trying to emphasize how these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► different qualities are in tension with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► each other and you can't have all them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► decentralize protocol so for example if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► you're sorting your posts or tweets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► whatever by the time they received and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► that time varies from node to node in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► decentralized system that means that two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► users on different servers posts might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► appear in different order and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► violates the chronology requirement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► because the times and the servers aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► right and stuff like that maybe you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► to fix this by simply sorting them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► the time they were sent rather than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► time stamp on their on their systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► like then you might have some newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► received things inserted into the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► of your timeline and you can't have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► of those things you either you either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► accept that you're gonna insert things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► in the middle or you sort them based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► something different than the order that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► they were actually created because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► times might be different and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► he was mostly was getting at that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► decentralized system the client can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► decide what policy you want to have but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► you still might have some weird behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► now I think this behavior still exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► even in Twitter because maybe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► the Twitter clients I've used but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► Twitter clients will do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► show me all of my things in my stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► and then also find me my ad mentions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► it will do it in two separate requests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► and by the time it makes a set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► second request it could be the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► the @ mentions it receives needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► inserted into the timeline if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► unified timeline for example and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► though it's a centralized service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► because the two pieces of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► you want need to be interleaved and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► make requests for them not exactly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► parallel and even if you did you'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► get into line up exactly right I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► it's not so much of these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► impossible to achieve in a decentralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► system it's that they're mostly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► possible to achieve in a centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► system just do the nature of the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► pull information unified timeline was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► big topic of discussion in the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► i'm still getting people replying to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► tweeting to me and sending email that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► they don't understand what if I timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► is I don't think I want to re-explain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► I've tried to reply to people directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► on Twitter and on app.net to clarify to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► them usually telling them he download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► this client and see how it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► one has unified one doesn't but I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► that many people apparently don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► replies from people they don't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► right so as far as they're concerned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► two things look identical they don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► summarize I guess again when you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► reply from someone you don't follow if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► that reply appears alongside all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► tweets for the people you do follow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► means you have a unified timeline and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► it appears in a separate place you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► have a unified timeline so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► where that comes in mentions and replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► from people you do not follow they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► mention anybody you follow in a unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► timeline those appear alongside all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► other stuff in a single chronological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► stream that's basically what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► unified timeline in your client you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► go to one big list then you just scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► and scroll and scroll you never go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► anyplace else unless you want to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► accounts or do a random search or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► something like that you just have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► thing you look for with a non unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► timeline you have your stream and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► you have a separate place where you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► for those replies and mentions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► people you don't fall and this by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► way is very important to you as you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► discussed on previous shows this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► you you rely on this and that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► primary reason why you you like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► client I'm still using that bot as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► app that net client because it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► it's really great you know those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► have lots of experience making a twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► client and even though I'm not a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► fan of their aesthetic it works really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► well it has a lot of features i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► gestures for pulling up the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► and stuff like it's a good it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► client and i'm using that if I found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► unified app.net client for iOS I may try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► replacing that but for now i'm using net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► pod and it still it still bothers me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► go back and forth i'm surprised a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► people after i explained what it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► pointed them to wedge which is a unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► timeline client for OS 10 frap net or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► Twitter effort for Twitter even a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► people are applying and saying hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► download it either wedge or twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► and I tried it and this unified thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► great and it could be that people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► don't know about it and just assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► the way you use twitter is you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► some place that you tap to see your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► replies from non followers in some place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► that you tap to see your other stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► once it's all folded into one they say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► like it i don't have to go to two places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► i just go to one place and see my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► and then of course they can fortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► tried to add mention the net bot skies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► of tap bots guys and say hey you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► should add unified ads if they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► heard that no that's new to them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► they're brand new to this exactly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► you know as I said to the tap bot people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► doesn't mean the net thought has to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► a unified timeline I just want someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► out there to make a good client with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► unified timeline because I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► are people who would like it yep of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► course the tap pods guys can edit if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► they want it doesn't change there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► other people who would like to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► the way they're using it now just leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► that is the default it would just be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► patiently for an iOS I think this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► coming out what was it called I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► have it in as this where everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► everything is instapaper like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► a unified climb line iOS client coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► out and I want to remember what it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► I throat an insta paper that makes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► sense but that's where it is and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► go there and I search for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► apologize to the people who sent me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► information about this client I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► save it but I don't remember it offhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► all right now and one more thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► app.net we're talking about how a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► descent and tents we talked about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► the challenge of a decentralized system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► doing search how do you do real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► search with a decentralized system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► real-time search by feeding Google a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► stream that called the firehose about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► all the tweets as they happen in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► time and so Google hood index them very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► very quickly just feeding off that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► giant fire and this is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► they do just just for google this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► something that a regular person can grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► access to yeah well someone else used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► have the I think some eyes used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► the fire house 2's um mi ze which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► search service for Twitter just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► Twitter just researching Twitter but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► think Twitter bought some eyes many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► years ago and so that went away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► there's probably used them to do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► internal search but Bruno grande or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► grand one of those two wrote in to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► me that Google's real-time Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► search was shut down in July of 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► after the deal with Twitter expired and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► i have a link to that in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► so i guess google doesn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► anymore and probably the last time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► used it was way back then I it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► tempest they will want to control their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► search in-house and blah blah blah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► that's a shame but anyway on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► of the centralized service is doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► there's still confusion in my mind as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► well as kind of many readers saying what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► is the how does something like 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► scale for people with lots of followers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► over a real-time search and the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► point of confusion is getting back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► the Lady Gaga example if Lady Gaga has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► 30 million followers does Lady Gaga's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► tenth server need to send out 30 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► post requests or is that only the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► case scenario theoretically worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► scenario every human being on the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► has their own tent server yes or would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► obviously as discussing last show we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► would assume that tent would shake out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► little bit like email as shaking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► where most people are on one of four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► five big servers like an email most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► people have a gmail or hotmail or yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► mail or something like that or a mac com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► mail or whatever like there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► big services that have most people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► then this corporate mail with your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► little corporate mail servers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► of course the very fringe there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► individuals in the long tail who run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► there who do run their own mail service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► right so you would assume tint if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► ever became very very popular protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► would be similar and that would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► mean the lady gaga if you can just send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► to serve an update to whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► equivalent of gmail is for tent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► okay I'm going to send one update to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► you know the tmail also numbers make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► sense I was trying to think of a Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► Gmail analogy anyway I'm gonna send one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► response to this tent server that houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► like twenty percent of all people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► are on tent and there I've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► covered twenty percent of my 30 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► followers right and I'm another response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► to this other big server and then slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► degrade and so you wouldn't have to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► 30 million have to send some much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► smaller number than that because once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► you send a post request to the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► server that hosts lots of people you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► done I'm still not sure if that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► case i looked at the documentation a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► little bit maybe the 10 people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► clarify it seems like that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► efficient right from an engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► point of view oh I'll just send it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► that server and it's that service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► responsibility to make it visible to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► the people who are on that tent server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► for example if every single person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► followed me was on 10th is and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► my nan 10th is 10th server I could maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► just send one update to 10th is and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► it makes sure that everybody's on 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► a/s gets it but on the other hand I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► know that 10 people are identified by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► their sort of URL so mine is Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► attend that is and someone else is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► to be a different name that tent that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► and so it seems to me that even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► they're all happened to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► that tent that is when you make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► update and you want to tell all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► followers it's not like you go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► your list of follower URLs and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► find common substrings do you like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► all these people are on tent that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► have to set in a post request to to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► exactly just tent Dada ass with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► without the name on the front of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► seems to me that if everyone has a URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► you have to make post requests to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► single one of those URLs and yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► may all be virtual hosted on a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► you know cluster node instance of 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► is but as far as you're concerned as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► as the other nodes are concerned they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► can't make it any assumptions about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► those things are served if everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► a different URL doesn't it have to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► 30 million post requests so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► implicitly asking people to come in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► explain it to me I just I'd be just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► happy to see what the results are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► action like have a bunch of people set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► up a bunch of 10 servers and see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► they behave in reality between each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► other but if any ten people can clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► that send it again and that's what most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► people have been telling me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► tense scaling solution is the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► email scaling solution a bunch of big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► servers have most people and only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► long tail do people have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► servers and the final bit of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► is related to that i mentioned email as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► my analogy for what tent is like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► saying how nobody leaves email and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► can't kill email because if you can kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► gmail or you kill hotmail email still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► exists is the thing with or without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► those services those people would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► go elsewhere right you can't kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► protocol and that's for nolan leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► email everyone wrote and tell me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► donald knuth left email famously have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► people can quit the internet and was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► was a mark pilgrim who quit the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► one of the high-profile tech nerds yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► did money was injured anymore that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► right so anyway news is the if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► pronouncing his name correctly knuth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► panoz Knuth i don't like saying McKay no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► he's not on the internet so he won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► hear this i canna pronounce his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► you will know say it any way you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► yeah i'll donald knuth like kunafa bunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► vs. Knuffle Bunny anyway they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► similar Knuffle Bunny and i'm by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► i am Knuffle Bunny i apparently unlawful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► bunyan knuth not kanaha buddy in knuth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► right but he quitting now but on email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► being unkillable because of gmail goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► way it's not a big deal steve schreiber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► wrote in to tell me that during his few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► years when he was at hotmail there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► the equivalent of a red phone hotline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► between AOL yahoo and hotmail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► eventually gmail was added in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► says of any of the any of the providers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► were experiencing an issue that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► cause them to slow their acceptance rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► of incoming mail this hotline are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► actually a conference bridge she calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► it was invoked each of these providers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► accepted billions of inbound messages a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► day if any one of them saw internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► problems that caused them to delay let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► alone decline inbound messages for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► time the messages would begin to queue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► up on outbound mail servers or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► intermediary store-and-forward systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► so once even if you have a decentralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► system what what steve saying here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► that amongst the big guys amongst the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► concentration of population of email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► among these three or four big servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► that if any one of them has any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► trouble because the email is storing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► forward where you pass the message along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► if any one of them stops accepting email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► or slows its acceptance of email the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► whole system can get clogged up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► terrible catastrophic way and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► the hot line between the jailer say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► know they would call up and say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► hotmail we noticed your your incoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► separate is slowing down you're causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► a huge backlog because if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► billions of messages and if where are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► accepting them you have to just like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► store and forward you store them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► then forward them and store just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► unlimited right so you have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► here like if you could draw that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► plumbing type diagram there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► flood of water coming and if it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► continue down to the next pipe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► backing up in your current pipe and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► could have a big tank to fill the once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► that tank fills you know you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► catastrophic problem eventually so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► in decentralized system it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► like a too big to fail type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► alright thanks even though there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► one thing that controls email when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► players get big enough if one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► big flares has problems it's almost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► if you destroyed email like if yahoo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► gmail and hotmail all stopped accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► their arms you have like 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► before the basically the end of email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► yeah pretty bad I can send my email just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► fine to my friend that his domain well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► you better hope it doesn't hop through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► one of those things along the way there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► and the spillover of the back up on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► system could you know cause problems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► this this doesn't mean decentralized is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► bad it's much better than centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► and we're managing to do with email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► email as a proof that it can work but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► shows that you have to be careful once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► things start getting big you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► red hotline phone is not part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► 10th protocol but it would have to be if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► tempt ever got as big as email you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► doing a first sponsor it's good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► because we're at the end of the fall end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► of the fu so our first sponsor is help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► spot calm his friends of friends of ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► I was you know I think he was up in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► York I didn't get to see him when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► so I was up there but that's alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► because help spot is still pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► it's a lifeline for your customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► service what does that mean means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► business when it comes to supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► your customers or working with the folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► who use your service or your product how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► because you can instead of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► chaotic email interactions and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► figure out who's doing what or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► you're helping one person with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► problem in another person with another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► problem you convert all of this and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► structured help desk tickets they can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► managed they can be tracked you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► let your customers help themselves by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► using their integrated service portal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► companies I worked at back when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► corporate stooge you don't have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► corporate stooge to use them and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► you should try this for your own service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► why because it will save you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► time you'll know exactly what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► with the folks that you're supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► you'll know exactly if there's a trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► ticket and you get someone who's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► your support and they don't know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► do they escalate it right up to you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► only get bugged about the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► you actually need to help out with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► you can get a really great perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► on everything that's going on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► they have real-time integrated reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► lets you keep tabs on what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► anyway they're doing something special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► for five by five listeners you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► hundred bucks off your purchase if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► use the offer code five by five and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► do you do that you go to help spot calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► / 5 by 5 and get a hundred bucks off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► they got everything you don't host it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► yourself you don't to download and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► install it yourself they'll do it I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► a hosted solution it's really great good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► folks over there using these guys for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► years help spot calm / 5 by 5 check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► out Henrik codone in the chatroom hope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► got that right hello Ike and Mike yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► like mentions like a Vulcan word which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► I'm sure you familiar with pad XMPP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► apparently uses dns to do this they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► a SRV record in the dns so for any given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► hostname you can look it up and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► that record and find out what 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► communicate with whatever dot 10 thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► is would list 10 thought is as it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► know tenth server so then as he says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► requests but those would be cached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► locally and all that other stuff oh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► jabber does that and I guess that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► possible illusion maybe that's what tent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► does maybe that's what we'll hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► as people are furiously typing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► filling out the feedback form right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► to tell me this alright topic for today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► to time I got two topics today one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► them is inspired by listening to back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► work I just let's do it yesterday and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► said no i actually want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► that on my show so i'll do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► that's my second topic okay five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► show with merlin mann and me we do a do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► weekly show you do when you listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► and you're a big for your big fan i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► i'm a big fan um and by my first topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► can you guess what my first topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► nothing really interesting or exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► has happened for anybody that we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► over the last week so I i would guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► you're going to talk about toasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► guessing cry you already looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► show I was like you're forgetting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► didn't I actually didn't this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► around I oh I always do but this time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► didn't look but I can look right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► going to you don't have to because going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► there it is clicking the links link oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► you are gonna talk about it I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► you're gonna talk about Oh Dan sarcastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► interesting in anyone's life do we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► about he's referring to Marco of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► host along with with me of a show called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► build and analyzed that we do here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► mondays yes and at this point I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► like it's kind of surprising that builds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► and analyze has not called the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► because people may may or may not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► Instapaper as part of Instapaper he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► the thing called the feature which is us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► you know selected an editor selects the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► best of the things that people put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► Instapaper or whatever and there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► something called the brief which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► of like a very succinct roundup of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► week's important tech news yeah so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► got the feature the brief something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► that's not called the podcast but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► week i forgot what not launched it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► you think he regretted that by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► calling it the podcast i doubt it and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► the way there there are a lot of shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► out there called the show lots the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► attack of the renee or even just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► show if you were to google the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► would find hundreds and hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► places and that's because you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► can't copyright or protect the name that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► way yeah and then interesting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► like can't copyright font see there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► got to give a different name right only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► the opposite but these all the same name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► anyway ah this past week he introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► something called the magazine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► magazine and this is issue one that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► been talking about on his show for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► long time he's like I'm working on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► new app I can't tell you what it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► would send very signs it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► a floor wax it's not dessert topping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► it's not a Twitter client it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► podcast app even though he said he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► playing with that too what was it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► kind of a misdirect because that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► kept thinking what kind of app would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► be the app part of it I that part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► of course is an essential component but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► it's not you know the important part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► that it's a publication right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► app enables the publication to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► but that's what it is it's a magazine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► the Internet age it is a publication and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► the introducing of publication not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► the app isn't difficult but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► like that's not the heart of it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► heart of it is this stuff that you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► through the application the content so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► yes he wrote an application it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► newsstand application actually so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► the many of us who have nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► newsstand suddenly we if you subscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► something a newsstand finally for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► first time right the real benefit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► this is that we now finally have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► reason to potentially use newsstand yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► and you will find it's infuriating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► use newsstand because you can't put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► in a folder and every time you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► read the magazine even though it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► only thing in newsstand you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► first tap the newsstand I can manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► open and then tap the thing and then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► you happen to go back to the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► you realize how it's stuck in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► expanded newsstand thing and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► all apples problems not Marcos problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► but yeah so he's created the magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► it's a 199 per month with a free 7-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► trial I don't know what free 7-day trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► means in the context of a newsstand app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► so i will let Marco explain that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► key parts this is from his article about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► the magazine that link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► all subscriptions even during the fryer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► even doing the free trial include access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► to all back issues so if you were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► start your free trial you can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► backwards at all the passages of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► there's only one issue so far the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► this magazine was launched it launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► with issue number one what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► magazine the magazine is a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► articles that Marco believes would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► interesting to tech nerd type people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► technology he likens it to the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► build and analyze is is not a show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► development it's a show for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► filled with things that Marco believes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► that people who are into iOS developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► a Mac development would be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► whether they be developed or related or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► not and I would I would take that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► step back and say very much that five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► five is a network of shows for for geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► as opposed to necessarily shows that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► always about those topics it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► people who enjoy this kind of this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► of thing in the magazine i think is uh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► mean look at look at they get a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► roundup of articles this first issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► it's pretty good györgy english as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► say Jason Snell a friend Alex Payne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► michael la all have an article an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► number one yeah you may or may not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► guy English uh he's another uh Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► Developer nerd kind of guy also I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► he's back from the next days as well he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► has his own blog that we've quoted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► the show frequently all-around good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► he's got his own conference in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► on right now as we record this is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► it called the singleton conference it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► and the sea has a little like leach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► hanging from it that's why it's Canadian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► or something yeah anyway Jason's now of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► course is the editorial director of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► macworld or whatever his title is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► head pooh-bah macworld I think it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► title Alex Payne hey wait hey boo by our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► grand pooh-bah one of those two I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► it's grand yeah Alex Payne first I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► I first became aware of him when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► talking about alternate like programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► languages like esoteric programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► languages all these esoteric some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► and he joined what was a first called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► bank simple and changed names are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► simple right it's like it was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► try to do an online bank the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► he recently left that company yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► he wrote about that not that process but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► part part of what caused him to leave or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► I don't know you read the article you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► say but it's he talked about it he talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► about a life change that's an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► programming languages that he's into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► that you know how to manage an engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► organization or the development process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► he's talking about a change of life it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► just happens to be written by someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► who is a developer nur but it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► widely applicable than michael lop which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► you may know from his rands in repose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► website blog so and so forth is writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► about how do you wrangle engineers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► how do you make a successful tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► company and what are the forces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► work there he talks about the same type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► of stuff on his blog so these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► about a thousand words each summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► longer some are shorter but that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► articles are and there was five of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► are now four of them plus the forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► for in this first issue and for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► dollars a month that's what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► every believe it's every two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► there's another issue and i believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► is auto renewing as well so if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► to sign up for new stand every two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► you would go into newsstand it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► a new issue of the magazine and you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► read four or five whatever however many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► articles handful of articles about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► thousand words in length from thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► nerdy type people about thoughtful or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► topics part of the the FAQ or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► mentions that he is not currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► accepting advertising but does not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► to close the door on it but for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► basically how does the magazine work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► pay money to read it and that's how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► make money like it's a very traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► business model it could be that some day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► he also takes money from advertisers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► did not want to close the door on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► but right now that's not how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► advertise yep and he pays the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► write the articles this is radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► business plan amazing you all the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► articles then you collect their works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► into a thing and then people pay to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► it the most and then he distributes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► yeah it's crazy and you read it in Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► yeah the most interesting thing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► from a writer's perspective is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► you write something for the magazine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► can also post it to your own blog or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► wherever you want after like a month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► something I figure what the waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► period is seems fine so that stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► people I'm saying okay well I have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► great idea for a thousand word article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► and it's really interesting and I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► to write it but if I write it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► magazine only people who subscribe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► magazine will ever see it and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► know how many people that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► so I feel like I'm limiting my audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► writing for the magazine and Marco says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► is you can post this to your blog just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► give it a month we'll put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► magazine you wait until month is passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► then you can put it on your blog you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► retain copyright on your work right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► so that's the best of both worlds get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► paid to write something interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► also be able to have it at a permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► URL on your own blog that you still own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► so the entire world can read it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► is a novel concept that I haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► any publications that I've ever written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► for although various times I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► requested it like I remember way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► when I requested that any blog post I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► made to my old fat bits blog I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► also republish on my own blog if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► wanted of course I haven't but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► if I wanted so I think that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► idea and the second great idea is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► same great idea that that a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► indymac iOS developers have or a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► the people who we talked about or people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► or down ripple or all these other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► is that the way you make money is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► spending less money then comes into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► that's the secret to profit what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► there's some equation that you can point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► out like that it's like income minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► expenditures all right that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► works so he has low overhead he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► have a staff of 800 people working like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► the daily or whatever Barack's thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► right he hasn't commissioned 25 iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► developers to make an application with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► the 3d rotating carousel for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► paying them each 200 grand a year plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► their health insurance and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► for a year to develop this application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► right he does not have a staff of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► reporters going out and collecting news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► he doesn't have photographers on staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► he doesn't have like he has very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► over it he wrote the application himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► right the application shows articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► right it's not it you know not that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► was not difficult to do but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► not there's no fancy 3d carousel let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► say that alright I don't think he even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► has the 3d page curl animation thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► just because that would be pained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► implement so that was low overhead as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► well what do you have to do to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► something into here you write an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► he puts it in there I bet the CMS for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► this thing is not you know the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► amazing thing that made but doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► to be it's you know for Little articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► a week so how many subscribers to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► profitable probably not as many as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► all think because his overhead is so low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► his the biggest expenses as was his time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► to develop the application and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► biggest recurring expenses the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► paying the writers and in in the forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► what he says is if it doesn't turn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► profit within two months which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► for issues I'll shut it down so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► his business plan he decided is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► solve two bucks a month it's issue every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► reasonable amount of money he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► make a little pro to profit above that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► and if he doesn't get enough subscribers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► to start turning a profit in two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► then he'll stop and you know failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► experiment right this sounds like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► low-risk way to try something out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► he is interested in he would I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► he's making something that he would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► he would like to have something a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► newsstand it's useful right it shows him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► articles that he likes collected by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► somebody who's tasty trust and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► once while you go and read it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► cheap it's cheap enough you can go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► alright so it's not really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► doesn't take a million years to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► they're not big giant are because a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► of my Mac os10 review is going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► there filled with images and movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► you know secret tool tips and stuff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► like you know it's type of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► you would expect from some of them made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► Instapaper you just want to sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► anyone to read something and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► text and it's nicely rendered text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► and doesn't seem like you need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► staff of thousands and huge overhead to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► do that and so if you can just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► enough like-minded people to subscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► for two dollars a month the sudden that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► becomes a profitable business and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► it grows from there and gains reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► he becomes a publishing mogul someday or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► subscribe and he stops it but what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► he lose during that time you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► lost his time he lost a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► money but not that much right um of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► course his biggest I think his big as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► ace in the hole here is that he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► have the pain he went to write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► application like he already knows how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► do that and I bet probably leverage some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► of his code and exit expertise certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► Instapaper because what it's Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► for doing make it's a nice way to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► text it's got an iOS version that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► on the iphone you know ipod touch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► ipad and he's making another application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► that works on those same platforms the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► best example is in typical Marco fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► it looks like a simple application but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► there are clever things in there so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► you go to an article in the magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► which I'm assuming you can pull up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► Dan because I'm assuming you subscribed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► obligated to mm-hmm by Marco you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► and find you I I don't have an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► devices near me while I record but I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► theory yes I could do what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► alright so I've got it up here so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► you're reading an article I'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► or whose Ark my looking at now guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► English's our first are clear and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► it's hypertext it's got links in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► right it's not the New York Times where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► they forget to put links into things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► they you know they mention a website but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► that you can't click on the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► website to go there because of the New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► York Times anyway it's written in HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► hypertext so if you have a link when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► tap on that link what you see on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► the the phone or iPod version of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► that a little pain slides up over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► covering about a third of the screen yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► on the bottom it's black and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► the white text on it very readable yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► and it what it shows is the title of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► that thing that you clicked on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► title of that page and like a byline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► then some introductory text not the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► text of the article but a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► interactive test and if it doesn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► you can scroll this is on the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► version of it right and it doesn't cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► up the entire thing that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► reading so you can kind of get gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► what it's going to say and I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► he's using insta papers like text afire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► because it's taking a big giant web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► and just showing you like you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► inch of it on your screen and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► didn't use something like Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► sexta fire all you would see was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► the top banner ad like the navigation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► something like that he's he's extracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► the the content portion of the page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► showing you just that so you can go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► know you click on that link to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► it is but you don't you're not committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► to followed to really follow that link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► yet it's showing you a small preview and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► the first paragraph or so of text from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► that thing and if you really want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► it then click on the link in the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► there and go to the full article ah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► instead of just saying oh I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► put a web view and I'm going to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► article content in it and then I'm done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► right he's done more than that he's made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► it you know and the first time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► happened it just felt natural to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► then I thought about it wait a second he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► had to implement it that's not some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► built-in feature right when you tap on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► link I just want to see what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► thing should I read this or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► he since he's someone who reads things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► in Instapaper probably has a sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► or by the way I like it it shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► little preview let's see what else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► on the I iPad iteration of this thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► does a popover which is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► bigger and doesn't slide up and cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► the whole bottom of the page but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► similar type of idea so that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► example of him leveraging his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► expertise in doing this in probably his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► own code you can talk about that on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► show is he actually using the Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► text extractor I would assume he is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► of course I don't know I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► I don't even need to ask him of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► he's right so that's that's his that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► his uh what do you call it as he heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► you would say his ace in the hole his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► bread-and-butter golden Hank the golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► goose goose laid the golden egg right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► this is a very people were trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► think of what is Mark we're gonna do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► his next step if they were thinking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► he's gonna make like he's gonna make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► massively multiplayer online game or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► he's gonna like just totally crazy sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► of things you were thinking of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► retrospect like many moves it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► all it's obvious he would do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► that if he's gonna do something like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► an experiment he can mitigate risk by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► doing something Queen we kind of knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► what he's doing on the other hand it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► singleton I'm judging judging by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► tweets that I'm staying marco by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► conference this week I believe his talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► had something to do with uh being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► audacious I think one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► saw quoted on Twitter was that authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► is not given it has to be taken and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► he that's the Klingon way is that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► yeah you know about that you've lived it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► yeah I can't I can't wait to see his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► talk because uh for one he did the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► brilliant because this is totally in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► independent Mac Developer way of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► things which seems like it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► totally motivated by laziness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► partially it kind of is but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► secret is that doing less work is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► if you're a one-man operation so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► better for Marco not to have to wrangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► a staff of thousands but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► better for the product because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► simplifies it and clarifies it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► lot of the things that you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► need you don't necessarily need he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► references the louis ck story and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► forward i believe we're louis ck kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► asking his agent do we need to do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► stupid radio PR hit promote my right my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► comedy club near like all this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► you do you go into a city you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► comedy show you got to go on stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► radio station it's like yeah but do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► need to do that as such something we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► always do I said you know what let's try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► not doing that and he didn't do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► didn't make a difference and so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► like going out around to do that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► well so can you do a presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► without slides my kind of slides that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► what a presentation is but do you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► to have slides or can't just not do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► part and it works just as well uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► that's the experiment that he ran and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► for the taking authority thing Marco has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► gone from a guy who works at tumblr and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► is you know developer doing their web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► back in two and then he wrote like a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► in his spare time and then he became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► guy who has a very popular success for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► iOS application so he's like oh I'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► iOS developer right and now he and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► he became you know i have a blog that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► write stuff on and yeah I review light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► bulbs and do all sorts of crazy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► like that and talk about coffee beans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► and stuff right ah now I'm a writer why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► am I writer cuz I have a thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► write on it i'm declaring myself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► writer so now he's he's not just an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► developer now he's a writer and now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► okay well I'm an iOS developer so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► write an application and i'm a writer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► he's also a podcaster how did it become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► a podcaster he has a podcast and i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► wat phnom a podcast just go and do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► right and now he's a publisher and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► editor he's editing these articles those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► things so he's a publisher a knitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► why is he a publisher never known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► anointed him a publisher and editor he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► a publisher and header because he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► publication that he publishes and edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► all right so I mean this is kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► way it works no one else externally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► going to just declare that Marco Arment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► creator instapaper is now a publisher uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► he declares it by publishing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► right he may be a failed publisher if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► this doesn't work or he could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► massively successful publisher and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► people say Marco army that's the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► behind the magazine it's like did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► know he had he also used to write an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► application called instapaper did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► know he worked for tumblr once did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► know that like I believe his talk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► about scaling a career because the theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► of singleton is scaling and so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► trace Marcos career he's been many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► different hats this is going to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► into a back to work episode again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► you've done the same thing right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► weren't you know just a couple few short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► years ago you weren't Dan Benjamin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► podcast network mogul your den venchan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► am I am I've had no thank you well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► understand your point what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► is how do you create a publishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► company start publishing stuff how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► you become a writer I start writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► right was like it if you how do you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► in san francisco and and drive a jet car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► ease let's move to san francisco there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► you go yessuh and you were that guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► talks at rails conferences or that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► who the corked guy was that you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► know when people your name would come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► with so many different things they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► have associated with your name now of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► course your name comes out the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► think five by five but if I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► didn't exist right many years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► just merely by doing it but you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► should you should give it talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► scaling a career because you demarco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► have good stories to tell about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► of course the timing of this you'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► to Marco I'm sure about the timing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► the timing it was almost perfect because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► the magazine comes out and then he jets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► off to Canada to talk at this conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► and I'm assuming if like say is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► magazine application had not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► maybe a hold maybe a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► talk maybe gives the same talking says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► I'm now announcing an application but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► course hasn't gotten through a brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► yet but that that was quite a chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► race with the app approval process that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► he was running there and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► it was pretty close so I'm sure he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► some good stories to tell about that um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► so yeah one more one more note on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► the the one point 0 version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► magazine it had a bug in it the Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► knew about of course before it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► approved because that's just the nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► of approval so he's got to be sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► there seething going uh there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► thing I've got the thick sport ready but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► I need to get the one point 0 through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► be approved and the bug was that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► had two different devices like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► got an iphone and an ipad and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► subscribe to it on your iPhone when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► went to your iPad and tried to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► subscription and fail and he just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► bug in there because for subscribing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► multiple devices and you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► submitted the one point 0 point on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► version and he used his expedited you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► know developer thing to put that out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► then it came out like the same day was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► it the same day I don't remember I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► it might have been the on the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► launch day by night time the new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► was out so this was just a tiny glitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► but uh that was another chicken rice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► work you know he could have I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► pulled the one point O and say oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► is this is a showstopper I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► people to try to subscribe into devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► and have it fail instead he just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► know damn the torpedoes plow ahead one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► point no one get it shoved through get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► it to come out as quickly as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3553">TS</a>]
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01:05:40 ◼ ► you look in the magazine app they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► like they've already been Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3942">TS</a>]
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01:05:50 ◼ ► know if there's a choice of font thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► just like font size up down a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► limited options for the one point now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► i'm sure that will flush out sec to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► but anyway it looks like it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► means the paper but then i can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► publishers going out Oh Marco how you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► trying to sell this publication how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► would you feel people go and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► Instapaper your Oracle's well in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► application I think it's in that let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► look at it now oh but the magazine oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► poor slow ipod touch what do we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► here you need to get new on those maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► it's not in here another it is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► top yeah there's a share button in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► upper right hand corner of every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► article you look at and the options are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► the typical iOS you know iOS 6 share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► things mail message twitter facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► raping quote-unquote of his publication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► it's in the application to his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► entirely sure why you would do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► it does something because like I said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► looks there's no reason there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► on this page that makes you want to oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► can't read this here I gotta look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► instead of a ver it already looks nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► right but it's integrated into the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► because that's taking advantage of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► feature that instapaper has that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► services don't which is that it can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► the content to something that isn't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► the public web like you can only see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► these magazine articles least until a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► month later by subscribing right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► since it's the paper doesn't just send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► the URL Instapaper it takes the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► page content and sends it and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► paper can accept the page content you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► can send this stuff to instapaper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► all by the way you can also select and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► copy and paste the text which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► infuriating thing that these in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► newsstand applications would do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► you'd get this new same application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► would download 700 megabytes of crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► images and image based text and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► can't copy and paste from any of up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► oh no you can't select text that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► violate our copyright like that so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► walking the walk all the the exact the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► key and lock fit between how Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► works and how he believes the public aid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► like if you made money by selling your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► publication with login the only people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► who pay money can see those articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► instapaper will let you send them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► instapaper in that way as well but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► you make a publication that is nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► formatted that there's no reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► anyone descended Instapaper uh a they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► already giving your money anyway and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► why not let them because no skin off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► your back now in his little faq he's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► of the faq items is are you gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► support for readability and pocket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► stuff like that like not just send Vince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► to ever send a readability sent two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► pockets right that right and his answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► on the fact I believe it still this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► I don't remember if he's changed it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► LOL all caps it's like haha you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► I'm going to send to my competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► application those are his competitors by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► the way readability and in pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► formerly known as something in RM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► what I tweeted when he mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► strategy tax article I wrote a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► years ago about how the fact that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► runs the App Store but also has its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► bookstore means that there's a tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► possible platform for say the kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► application versus Apple trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► store successful so kindle in the kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► iOS application you can't buy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► within the kindle application they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► even like you to link out to a web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► to buy them i don't even know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► allowed to do that anymore if Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► just a vendor of mobile applications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► they were trying to be the best vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► of mobile applications they would try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► have the best mobile applications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► it's much better for the user for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► be able to buy your kindle books right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► mentioned on the show where I talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► this that I think it's more about money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► than about publication but there still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► is a tension between Apple as platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► owner and apfel as someone who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► feel its own bookstore its own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► movie store its own streaming video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► service you know competing with Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► and stuff like that and the strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► multiple things which are kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► conflict with each other your your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► iBooks thing can't be the best it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► because they would squish step on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► toes of the people on your platform and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► your platform can't be the best it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► be because you don't want to you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► like help out your ibook store a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► bit because hey you are the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► owner so here's an instance where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► got a publication and the LOL attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► is like I would never put those guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4201">TS</a>]
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01:10:06 ◼ ► and so I think that's a little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► in this case the decision is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► justified because those other services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► as far as I'm aware can't do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► Instapaper does you can't send them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► content of the article they will stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► it in there and you can't send them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► URL or whatever so it could be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► technically speaking the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► really not lol but even if I wanted to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► couldn't but the LOL implies that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► if I could I wouldn't and why wouldn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► because they're my competitors so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► there's a tension between you're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► me an application that i can read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► magazine on right is this the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► reading experience i could possibly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► well for me if I'm a user a readability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► or pocket and like that's the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► that I use I would like your application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► to support the service that I use and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► that's all you did is all I do is I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► an application through which you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► read monthly publications you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► sure that he would support like the pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► the most popular read it later services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► he wouldn't just support one but since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► he's not just making the magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► application he's also making instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► he's inclined or just human nature to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► say uh the only read it later sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► Instapaper and why well mate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► instapaper now again the situation here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► may just be simply that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► technical limitation but his answer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► limitations it was you know laughing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► could have just been a joke you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► sure you'll talk about to him about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► on his show but that tension totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► exists that i'm sure he's aware of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► and managing that tension is not easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► apple has trouble with it and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► Marco will eventually probably have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► face it in various ways as well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► he is doing two different things can he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► experience without supporting other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► related services or is he short changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► his customers by not supporting those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► other read it later services you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► that synergy or is that a strategy tax I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► should put that strategy text article in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► the journal ins and there's no there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► no easy answer here except for now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► it's a technical impossibility that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► the easy answer I'd love to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► those services but I can't well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► know if you would love to so I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► you can discuss that with them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► interesting part of going into a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► line of business that is in some ways a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► complement to your first line but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► other ways it's you know the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► of the fence from Instapaper is taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► content collecting it and now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► producing content do you do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► that this could eventually become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► something that is bigger for him than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► Instapaper I'm i don't know i'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► trouble handicapping us i think his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► secret weapon in this entire thing as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► said is the secret weapon of all indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► developers neighbor who writes their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► blogs and stuff is low overhead that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► subscriptions to this for it to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► profitable right uh he has a fixed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► low overhead for each issue of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► thing at all he's got to do is get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► know enough people to cover that cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► and then maybe double that number now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► he's making a good profit maybe double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► it again and maybe you know like at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► point he can start folding that money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► back in and paying more money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► content that cost more money to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► right and there's increasing paid to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► people may be having more articles may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► be having longer articles i'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► manage that but seems to me that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► based on the nerds who like know of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► follow marco and you like signed up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► day one and they're just going to be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► lazy to ever unsubscribe right uh as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► long as the content continues to be high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► quality uh it seems like a slam dunk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► me I think Marco thinks this is slam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► dunk to he said in the in the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► like you know it doesn't print a profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► I'll shut it down but he says but I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► it will and like he literally bets he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► betting by like putting his time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► energy into this and that is the bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► he's making and like I'm I have far less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► experienced in this demarco but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► that same feeling like a gut feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► you're like you don't need to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► many people to read this for it to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► a profit right uh it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► should work and if it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► interesting to talk about why it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► not work like maybe he can come on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► show and give like the actual numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► whether it did work or didn't and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► like how close was it the working but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► just it seems like it's a slam dunk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► it's gonna work does not a slam dunk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► it's going to be this hugely profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► business to rival Instapaper right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► I think remains to be seen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► running a publication you know he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► declare himself a publisher and become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► publisher but as you learned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► declaring yourself a podcast the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► guru and doing that it's really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► challenges and he's got to meet those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► challenges I know wrangling writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► getting people to write interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► things doing the editorial process just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► keeping it all together like you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► fixed calendar based schedule you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► to get those articles in on time you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► got to keep finding people to write them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► for you've got to pay the people enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► to make them on the right you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► whole nine yards it's not easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► that I see them on a big scale with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► people who run ours and that is that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► difficult job right this is much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► scale than something like ours but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► the only right now he's the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► doing it all right and that's a new set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► of things you have to do so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► danger of him being spread too thin this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► decisions early amelie doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► experience and how to run a publication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► or maybe he just won't like what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► like the run of obligation maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► likes the idea of some of being somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► successful publication more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► actuality of what it takes to run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► successful publication so there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► possible ways this can end but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► to me that that for issue thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► it's probably already turned a profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► that's my guess like on day one all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► people subscribe to the anyone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► they follow Marco like that's it he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► set for four issues already yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► then then see me just up to him to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► this turns a profit but it turns enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► profit for like me to get extra coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► every month like it's not i'm not losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► money on it i'm spending all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► and it's not turning a lot of profit uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► or maybe you know maybe it's more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► that maybe it's an you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► one tenth of instant a pers income but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► it's still taking like thirty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► my time and I think that's not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► trade-off or maybe he's in it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► long haul and says you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► you know I'm just going to stick to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► even though I'm putting in way more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4558">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► than you know then I'm getting out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► because in long run I think it'll turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► out to be a big business that's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► an apple model where in the beginning it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► seems like a loser buddy just stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► it you know it starts to do a hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► stick can you get going ah but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► it is interesting because it's it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► newsstand has been designed for which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► it's not take all the old world models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► and try to cram them into the ipad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► find a new model that works in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► world don't be dumb allow people to copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► and paste text allow people to send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► to their reading later services don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► have humongous overhead will take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► of all the publication you know renewal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► subscription stuff for you so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► have to worry about that don't base your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► business on harvesting user information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► even though as a newsstand application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► it presents this dialogue with a firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► sure Marco can complain to you once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► again about that says the magazine would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► like your like email address and zip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► code and blah blah blah magazine would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► not like it like that's mandatory he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► can't get rid of the dialog if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► wanted to do you have an auto renewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► subscription it always puts that up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► um you know that that's a shame but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► that's not his business model he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► harvesting your information to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► their advertisers and the model that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► he's come up with a couple people pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► few bucks a month and that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► the simple model that feels like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► should work doesn't it like that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► we're all that when we ever we make fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► of these other people like keep picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► on the daily but any of these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► publications that you know try to shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► the wired magazine at 700 megabytes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► try to show up there print world into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► electronic version and then complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► when they lose money it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► you're doing it wrong like this it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► much overhead there's too many people it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► doesn't work out you got to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► something different and you can't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► all our subscriber information and sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► its advertisers you know so I'm the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► of like app net this is kind of it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► like app that net in that I'm rooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► for it to succeed because it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► make sense it's unlike apt the net in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► that initially I thought apt on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► there was no chance that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► succeed this I'm saying I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► at least pass this does it turn a profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► definitely pass that a notice be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► question of Marco deciding whether he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► in it for the long haul or if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► making enough money to justify it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► whatever so I'm a fan I like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► four articles I give a thumbs up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► idea and to the content I mean of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► I do because like I'm these are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► whose blogs I'm reading anyway and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► perfectly happy to have them sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► and really think and try to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► something of a medium link that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► going to get every two weeks in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► nice little application to read it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► if it is buried in the newsstand folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► which again Marco can't control now let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► me ask you another question other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► the simplicity of newsstand and being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► the newsstand folder I mean do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► folks are surprised about that that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► different way and used in that purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► I mean it makes sense to me but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► I've saw some people on Twitter saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► standalone thing just to get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► those limitations of newsstand um I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► not surprised about it I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► reason you're not surprised by it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► other people who know a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► Iowa the iOS platform is the newsstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► things can do things that regular apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► can't exactly they can download issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► in the background Apple handles all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► ordinary subscription stuff for you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► it's a no-brainer to anybody who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► about the implementation that yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► is if you want to have low overhead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► not worry about all the stuff this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► how you do it and in many respects if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► you want certain features is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► way you can do it on the iOS platform so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► that doesn't surprise me and if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► are surprised maybe they're not familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► with the limitations and I think Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► has talked about them at length when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► complaining about things that Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► can't do that you could do if you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► probably not as big a deal because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► not like he would like you to download a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► seven hundred megabyte thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► background like these things are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► issues are small he could probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► away with not having a be newsstand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► subscription stuff alone to have an auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► renewing subscription and have apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► handle all that stuff for you instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► having like a new in app purchase every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► comes out of something like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► this is the appropriate fit in the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► platform for what he wants to do is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► clearly this is what you're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► do this is what he is doing it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► perfect fit and I think Apple should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► very happy that someone is doing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► think Apple probably was more happy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► Rupert Murdoch was trying to foist this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► big giant thing on there with the daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► because that seems like a high-profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► thing or you know Wired magazine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► something but I think those are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► great fits for this platform and Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► thing is a better fit the other thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► saw people complaining about is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► can't it read this on Android why can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► I read it on the web you're making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► publication that only people who who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► iOS users can read those are all valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► concerns if it weren't for the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► this publication if ever there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► publication tailored for iOS users it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► this one it's not like he's making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► gardening as I crawley why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► limit a gardening publication just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► people who use iOS that you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► that doesn't make sense but why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► you limit an article by and for mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► apple nerd people to iOS well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► they're all gonna have iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► anyway right now I think he's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► thinking about how to handle the web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► their web incarnation can you sign in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► with like your newsstand subscription on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► the viewer on the web how does that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► I don't know how that if you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► magazine org I believe you can see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► previews of all the articles and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► just links you to like if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► read the rest this article subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► the thing or whatever um I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► what he's gonna do on the web there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► particular publication and in the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► of his business plan and having lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► overhead and not having to make a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► version not having to make an android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► version all that stuff it makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► sense for this to be iOS all me um for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► now anyway what do you think I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► talking about the magazine I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► do you want to talk about some more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► want to I want to make sure we cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► everything so that Marco is not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► luck tomorrow when when Mark when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► talked that he that literally he's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► says I wish there was something I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► add oh there's so much he can add I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► trying not to actually spill all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► beans I've actually probably mistakenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► said too much already but I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► Marco will have many many more things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► any many more things talk about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► this thing certainly about you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► presentation which I've only seen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► three tweets about he could talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► the actual presentation he gave well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► there's only like eight or nine people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► go to that conference seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► right now they all fit in a little room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► that's one little room it's up in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► is it Toronto or Montreal or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► it's all the same up there and media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► yeah and I mean there's like five people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► in medicine just SAT you know put a use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► this a macbook camera to do it streamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► it yeah they will although singleton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► videos will be up on the web eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► so ah i look forward to seeing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► mean it I'm just trying to imagine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► situation you described earlier where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► the app doesn't come out in time do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► think you would have had like a fallback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► plan like showing screenshots of it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► would he had just he didn't have slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► there was nothing today she had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► to show that sure I think he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► gone up there was was he gonna do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► think he would have got there and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► uh I have a new thing it's called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► magazine the plan was for you to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► to download it today but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► because of whatever the reason think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► would have done that or he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► just pivoted no I think he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► talked about it you can ask him I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► that's the only question I'm gonna ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► him well you gotta ask my more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► but yeah I'm sure he will have a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► talk about then and a lot of people said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► oh you know this the schedule shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► with you know your your jet setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► around we had to move the show to Sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► and everyone shows got move because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► were traveling and it's like Oh Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► can't catch a break now he's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► gonna get to talk about his own thing uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► is previously I'd been talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► lot of topics that both of us would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► to talk about our shows when my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► happen to come first and once again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► get to talk about ver I me know who knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► this time slot was so fortuitous such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► boon a boon for you yeah and it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► make sense and people like how'd you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► know John's gonna steal your topic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► as he pointed out like why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► complain about someone else you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► giving basically free publicity to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► publication it's gonna make tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► people who had never heard of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5038">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► magazine go and look into it and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► download it and maybe subscribe right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► now he's gonna talk about it in his show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► and it's double publicity so I encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► everyone to go check it out you can ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► him the other thing you should ask him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► is what seven day free trial means I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5051">TS</a>]
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01:24:13 ◼ ► actually spent any money and if seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► days you cancel the description doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► charge you anything I'm not too I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► familiar with newsstand as you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► notice that with magazine being my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► lonely thing and yeah I have you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► read anything else in New stand before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5063">TS</a>]
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01:24:29 ◼ ► I did a I bought a single issue of edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► magazine which is a newsstand thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► my iPad because edge magazine is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► gaming magazine and it's from the UK and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► it costs a tremendous amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► for me to get paper versions over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► it's probably the most expensive yearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► subscription I have and I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5084">TS</a>]
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01:24:48 ◼ ► like paying that much I'm like maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► could try the digital version it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5090">TS</a>]
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01:24:54 ◼ ► usually digital versions are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► cruddy so I tried one out a single issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► for like five bucks and that is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5097">TS</a>]
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01:25:01 ◼ ► images and hundreds of megabytes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► movies and stuff like that and I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► of on the fence about it i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► probably get if it was free with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► other stuff was so anyway my ipad i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► to newsstand things i have this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► issue of edge magazine that I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► through now as you know testing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► waters and I have the magazine in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► so I'm not familiar with the process in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► the ends of at a newsstand so Marco can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► talk more about that but yeah at a 199 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► yeah this seems like it not a big risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► for me to just subscribe to that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5130">TS</a>]
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01:25:35 ◼ ► all the articles one of the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► suggestions is a boon for siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► County coming in from time you guys not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► time the Jackals in the Chairman third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5146">TS</a>]
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01:25:58 ◼ ► this is that this is what I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► build and maybe it's an iOS app maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► it's Android I maybe it's both maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► has a web backend doesn't matter they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5163">TS</a>]
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01:26:07 ◼ ► developers interface designers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► can put as many of these folks you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► access to the mall and put as many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► them as necessary on your project that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► up well 300 these guys must only take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► giant prod know they take things of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► sizes you have a tiny little app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► has one little function they can build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► integrated as a web back and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► time two million things and you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► website they'll do it they've done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5188">TS</a>]
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01:26:35 ◼ ► got 20 of those that have reached the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5195">TS</a>]
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01:26:52 ◼ ► can take a sketch that you've come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► with and you say I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► build this thing but here's how I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► it to work they can turn that into a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► they can turn that into a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► apparently they know all the ins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► outs of this because they have some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► the best developers in the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► doing it go check them out at sorts bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► calm that's the place to go let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► know you heard about it's here on a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► by five you know John I used to say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► you don't want a couple college kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► like you don't hire a couple college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► kids who are gonna you know tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► they can build something and take some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► six months to build it then I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► getting emails from college kids who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► were saying why are you banging on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► college kids to the ageist and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► you know I mean you could be you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► be 60 years old in college I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► can still be a kid at 70 that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► told mmm you're only as old as you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► them but so I said you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5261">TS</a>]
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01:27:47 ◼ ► not just college kids these guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5267">TS</a>]
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01:27:50 ◼ ► business they've been doing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► years and they're great so check them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5271">TS</a>]
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01:27:57 ◼ ► the chat room here somebody linked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► the actual tweet where someone where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► Marco replied to his LOL faq entry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► how pocket readability he says I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► think pocket or readability can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► save non-public links with HTML so I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► like that tweeting the show notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► someone in the chat room shinohara says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► that of somewhere Marco apparently said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► he's already got enough readership to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► make a profit but he can't find where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► said that so it could be that my guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► that he's already in the black is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► actually true but I didn't see him say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► that on Twitter or app.net so maybe i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► missed it somewhere yeah I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► excited about the the magazine thing got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► like whoa Cain so did he did he go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► detail about how like is he reaching out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► to the writers and saying I will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► know write a piece or can you get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► touch with him to submit I think both he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► has reached out to people and I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► you do want to write for the magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5335">TS</a>]
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01:29:03 ◼ ► don't know who I'm allowed to say what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5343">TS</a>]
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01:29:15 ◼ ► heard that he was doing this why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5355">TS</a>]
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01:30:42 ◼ ► just weeks back to work I think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► the pre-show part of the show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► doesn't have a name but should like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► part where you talk about things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► are not the topic of your show but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► not follow up what do you call that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► of back to work ah the beginning dan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► Merlin special time and Terry quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► special alone time together yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and then this one in that way before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► get in that from the chat room we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► sayonara I'm sorry if i'm pronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► wrong and djuan who's i believe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► Daniel dawn who have each submitted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► link the first one is a twitter link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► that says thanks for an amazing first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► day everyone the magazine is number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► in newsstand today even beating the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► york times for new downloads yeah i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► that too and he has the same thing on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► alpha dot app.net jerra is that worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► putting the show notes I already did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► cross posting l don't like cross posting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► the name of the same thing I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► anyway yeah I did see that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► not the same as saying he's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► turned a profit show notes it five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► five TV / hypercritical slush 89 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► yep okay all right so Merlin was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► about in his special time with you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► week was a bit about Twitter and app.net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► and he Marilyn had been cranky but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► done it for a while he doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► have the second service a thing and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► talked a little bit of this week about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► how he uses Twitter and his frustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► with it and frustrations with checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► multiple places and what he doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't do on Twitter and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► think we may have talked about the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► same thing so this topic may actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► a repeat but I think at least some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► of it will be fresh because app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► exists now and didn't exist when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► last talked about it maybe we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► talked but i don't know i'm old i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► remember I apologize to this is a repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► but I wanted to talk about how I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► Twitter because I think that topic like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► that was like a topic for like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► thousand eight when people like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► have you heard about this twitter thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► and then you'd go like well I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► using Twitter over a year now here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► I use it and you try to explain to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► what Twitter is and why they might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► some value out of it and why they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► want to use it now that conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► goes away because everyone just knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► where Twitter is but now app.net is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► i think the topic is fresh again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► it's like well now what do we do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► what are you doing a nap net it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► different than you do on Twitter what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► you want app that that to be do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► to be different than Twitter you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► just be a better Twitter do you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► Twitter to go to app that net I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► have probably a whole shows worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► discussion especially don't want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► into it 90 minutes into this show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► I'll leave this out there for a teaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► for next week to think about how anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► listening the show I'm assuming most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► the people seem to show either have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► Twitter account or have an app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► how you do or don't use those accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► in why that's your homework for for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► show and we'll come back next week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► assuming something or shattering doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► happen we'll talk about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► magazine thing we're like I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► screen full and then this twitter thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► is like for screen folds of stuff so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► i'm probably going to ramble on a quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► extensive length about had a good value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► out of Twitter or how i get value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► twitter an app that net and how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► differ from each other but i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► to give it short shrift so we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► going to stick it in today I know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► but now that I'm being so disciplined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► about the shorter show stripling she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► shouldn't feel like he has to keep them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► shorter I don't do it in our account we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► love the long shows I know you do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► this is for me some things have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► for me this is I need to tighten unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► your time that's right and I and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► record I've never said to you John I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► like to do a shorter show a vial nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► never not once now because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► believe that I believe that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► do the show that's as long as the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► that you would like to do and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► great words of a great man you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► been thinking about this and if I'm here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► and you're here isn't this our time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► yes it is can you name that then hmm to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► secure it to obscure for you someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► the chat room is gonna get it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► that'll be fine what hat what do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► get if they get it did you do they get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► dinner dinner with certain in Siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► county get respect Dan think it respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► it was out of respect this one time yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► you got that one city I know where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► going we're all bro I know all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► that one i just rewatched that again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► know it seems like a sound constant loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► in your house were you worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► age-appropriate but I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► that the hell you don't know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► understand that oh they understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► everything the baby understand just wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► yeah first word I'm gonna be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► we can't say we after dark yeah before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► four letters no not mama alright so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► think we can wrap this up alright if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► wish yep princess bride so you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► five by five TV / hypercritical / 89 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► you can see all the show notes and links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► that John is mentioned for this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► on both Twitter and alpha dot net as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► siracusa SI RAC u.s.a i'm dan benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► appreciate you listening we appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► you visiting those sponsors and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► course it really really helps us out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► you were to take a moment and rate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► show on iTunes you do that just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► searching for hypercritical in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► iTunes Store and it will come up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► can give it some stars you can write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► long lengthy review as John would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► you to do if you want to get in touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► with us you go to five by five dot TV / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► contact like hypercritical from the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► type your thing will get it John will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► probably not reply but he may read it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► the air and that's uh that's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► business I have to do hear anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► John you covered it all right have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► good one talk to you in a little less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► than a week oh my god yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipmjq4hI/5781">TS</a>]