Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► oh that is a snarky comment about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01 ◼   ► show that i'm watching this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► hypercritical weekly talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► the world of Apple and related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► so perfect that it cannot be obliterated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► by my co-host and your friend John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► siracusa I'm Dan Benjamin today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► Friday October fifth 2012 this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► episode number 88 of our beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/24">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► hypercritical we have three sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► that we would like to thank and tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► more about as a show continues Shopify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► calm shutterstock.com and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► squarespace.com I'm also like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► our friends over cash fly also done come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► for sponsoring bandwidth for this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► month of October the best month of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► year they're the fastest most reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► CDN in the business and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► listening to me right now it means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► are using cash fly because that's who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► delivers all of our content check them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► out cash fly calm and let them know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► heard about them from us good morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► John siracusa you'd mentioned right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► before we started that you have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► kind of cold going I do I am under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► weather today but I will soldier on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/70">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► sounded like a little you know you sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► like yourself but just maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► gravely yeah a little extra foghorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► right in the mix that's exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/79">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► was all right we're on a schedule today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► let's do it let's hit it we got it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► got to get through different time today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► nobody and people who are downloading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/89">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► the show they don't they don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► don't care yeah but starting early today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/91">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► because we gotta end early now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► probably going to truncate some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► follow up just so we can get to the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► topics okay the first bit follow up is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/100">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► year-long follow up this is as most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► people know by now the anniversary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► Steve Jobs is death last year the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/109">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► note I want to do I make here is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► talked about this on episode 37 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► hypercritical entitled a story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► triumph it's five behind that TV / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► hypercritical that / 37 the link is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► in the show notes so if you would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► to hear some discussion of that topic i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► recommend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► download that show I'm not going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► about it again but it's sad and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► apple com has a little tribute today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► didn't put it in the show notes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► you know we will expire as soon as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► pull down that tribute but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► listening on Friday and I assume maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► saturday or sunday take a look at apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► com I've got a neat little tribute video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► up there alright next item the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► we talked about the iphone 5 had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► follow-up about the internals of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► iphone 5 and one of them was about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► thing that holds the Lightning connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► inside and I had mentioned that uh two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► shows ago that I thought the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► dents inside the Lightning connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► were perhaps gripped by spring-loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► ball bearings that the balls would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► push into those little dents and hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► the thing in and that would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► neat but right in the ifixit teardown it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► showed that it was just like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► metal clip we're just kind of less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► exciting in a little bit more lame and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► was corrected by a non mouse who I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/187">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► is anonymous but also a mouse telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► that those little balls those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► theoretical balls that I was imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17 ◼   ► that would be on Springs and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19 ◼   ► push into those little dents those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► just called metal balls an actual ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► bearing is the balls in with the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► metal rings that are called races I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► think so I everyone I mean I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/207">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► knew this in the back of my mind but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► think this is total idiot correction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► this is something we should all strive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► to be correct about ball bearings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► not little metal balls they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► called metal balls I guess they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► have a special name it's only a ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► bearing if it has those noble arranged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► in a particular way with metal rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► around them sliding around really yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► believe I knew that back from my remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► control car days because they use ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/232">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► bearings actual ball bearings not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► little metal balls so thank you a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► mouse for that correction also in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► iphone 5 topic last week we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► pondering the new iphone 5 wall wart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/244">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► charger thing and since you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► have an iphone 5 you said that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► what my iphone 5 came with yours came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► with the much smaller like a vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► thing with the USB plug on the back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► many listeners send us email to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/259">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► this mystery that we should have thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► of this ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► course we didn't because we're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► us-centric apparently in other countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► that have 240 volt power yeah they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► the big one yeah they get the big fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► ones we get the the rinky dink ones now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► did it to the big fat ones charge faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► have you heard this I don't know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► know like you said like you said on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► show like the ipad comes with the fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► one I've got an ipad 3 it came with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► little fat one and i do know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► ipad 3 charges faster from that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► fat thing that it does if you plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► into a computer wife soon I assume it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► this the same charging speed if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► if you plug it into the wall regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► of what size the adapter is but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► know so there you have it u.s. and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► rest of the world did we did we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► clear up what was inside the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► prongs that were inside of the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► rinky-dink one yeah well you sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► sent me a picture of yours and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► here's my small one came with the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► 5 and the place where the USB plug goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► in is still surrounded by metal right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► not surrounded by plastic wood metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► contact right yeah and I mean that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► sense because they want them to be small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► they want to be light and yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► they'll revise that smaller one and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► actually I actually think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► smaller one assuming that it charges at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► the same rate I think the smaller one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► far superior to the the big fat one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► I wish that the ipad 3 would charge with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► this moment oh yeah apple is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► making these wall wart smaller smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► do you remember that I think the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► one they ever made and in this shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► like the little rounded corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► rectangles the one for like that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► was the original macbook pro intel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► was just gigantic was like 85 watt or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► something it's huge and now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► that for the iphone they've gotten them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► down to being barely bigger than just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► plug would be you know barely bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► than just a two prong plug with little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► thing for you to grab so apples making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► good progress in that area and all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► things being equal you but you'd want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► the smaller one right why not yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► feel bad for our our friends overseas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► they they suffer make many indignities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► did you know some of them don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► speak English that's what I heard how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► they use the I'd have fun if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26 ◼   ► speak English I mean who's gonna talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► him I don't know how they talk to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► other or though they talk to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► yeah now that's cute all right at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► next bit is about what you get when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► you go into an apple store and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► replace something for you so we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► about this two shows ago and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► couple of anonymous current and former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► apple geniuses wrote in to clarify and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► read some of the clarifications and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► a little bit confused by how they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► to contradict our first theories and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► this week tons and tons of people former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► apple geniuses current apple geniuses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► apple authorized dealers current and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► former just tremendous amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► feedback i kept looking for the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► golden piece of feedback that would give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► me like a bulleted list of exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► goes on i try to try to kind of merge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► them all together but anyway here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► here's what I've got this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► attributed to any person I think almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► everybody who wrote in wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► anonymous anyway so this is a melange of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► feedback and my attempt to put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► thing to bed maybe it's a foolish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► attempt but here we go all right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/447">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► this I'm just going to read these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► off it Apple will attempt to perform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► hardware repairs on Macs and replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► them with new product if unable to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► apple were rarely attempt to perform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► hardware repairs on mobile devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► accessories and will replace them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/462">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► refurbished products when unable to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► unable to repair them defective mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► devices are sent back to a central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► repair facility where the devices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► refurbished and sent back to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► stores to be used as a replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► devices so you got that like if you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► in with a mobile device and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► something wrong with it and it can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► repaired in the store it's sent to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/480">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► refurbished someplace else and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► those refurbished ones are sent back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► the Apple stores to be used as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► replacement devices defective max that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/487">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► can't be repaired our return and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► returned by a customer and also sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► back to the Central Depot these macs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► refurbished but not sent back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► Apple stores all right so if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► Mac they can't fix it as whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► send it off to be refurbished depot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► doesn't send them back the Apple stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► you cannot purchase used or refurbished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► products at apple retail stores so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► know when we talk about refurbished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► macbook pros and stuff like that i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► buy them retail starts to have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► online refurbished macs ipads and ipods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► are only sold in apple's online store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► apple never never sells refurbished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► iphones anywhere all right they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► anywhere and that's that's this that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► according to this melange your feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► here all right so when they say went for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► iPods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► iPads and iPhones and mobile devices any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► whole unit swap the part may be new or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► remanufactured and for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► remanufactured means that every external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► part that can be seen or felt by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► customer is actually brand-new as is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► battery internal parts like speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► memory board stuff like that may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► refurbished and reuse from a prior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► device so that's what when you go in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► they give you a replacement iphone what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► you're getting is something that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► remanufactured or may be new but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22 ◼   ► everything that you touch it is like new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► brand new never been touched by another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► person is just that the inside parts may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► be refurbished except for the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► which is always know which makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► because batteries wear out you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► really remember refurbish those all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► right and another note here any unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/575">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► that the apple store receives that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► any liquid contact of any sort is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► completely recycled no parts from it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► ever refurbished so as soon as liquid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► enters the pictures those parts will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► never go into another iphone so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► not going to get a remanufactured one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► like that there are circumstances where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► you would replace your mobile device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► not end up with a remanufactured one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► example if Apple hasn't started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► remanufacturing so if you go in with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► iPhone you like get a defective one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► you drop it or whatever and you i phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► 5 on me and you go back in you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► to get a brand new one because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► haven't probably remanufactured on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► iphone 5s left so you get you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► you know Polly new because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► have any remanufactured ones if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► customer is offered a crew CR you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► stands for customer replacement unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► this is where the geniuses decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► you've had far too many repairs on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► machine in order to restore your faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► and Apple he's decided to give you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► entirely new unit from the shelf and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► replace it this can happen at any time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► in your warranty so this is dino just at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► the discretion of the Apple Genius if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► looks like you're just going around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► circles stuff like that they can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► give you a new one customers never liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► hearing that their phone has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► remanufactured it's a difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► conversation that they ask I mean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► if you can explain to them I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/646">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► like okay well you know the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► brand new or the outsides are brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► everything is remanufactured and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► tested it and it's all fine they may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► cranky about it right we were this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/652">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► the Apple Store person we would often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► say that all the service parts were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► remanufacturers when in fact if a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► of the genius team wanted their phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► be replaced we would always search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► through the piles to see if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► find one that had a serial number that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► be a new phone so I guess if you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► the know if you're one of the geniuses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► when you want to get your thing replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► you can sort through which ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► remanufactured insides of which ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► aren't now I don't know if that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► rational thing to do and if you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► better luck with the one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► remanufactured insides at vs new but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► apparently there is a way for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► on the inside to know so let me let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► ask you this let's say you let's say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► you bring an iphone in as a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► let's say bought it the day before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► it's it's a lemon it's got major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► problems you rollin you say like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the whole thing doesn't work and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► genius men's a few minutes with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► says you know what you're right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► since you just bought it we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► swap yeah this happens all the time yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► you're saying just for total clarity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► here you're saying that that we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► get a brand new phone or we might get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► phone that is remanufactured right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► the remanufactured means anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► would touch or feel is brand new and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► insides might be old except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► battery which is also except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► battery now here's a question do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► maybe this came out in in your feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► is there like a special pile of phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► that should be used for replacement in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► other words do they have a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► storehouse of this somewhere in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► that they go or they just grab a new the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► remanufactured phones like or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► like that that's you know that it sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► off to be to the remanufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/736">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► facility and those come back not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► necessarily assume to the same store but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► those come back and that's like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► please use these as your replacement son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► hmm right so it's not you know and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► it doesn't there because you may they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► may have none of that so then when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► need to replace like if you drive home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► was bomb on the first day we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► a brand new one because there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► remanufacturing remanufacturing takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► time right and so and of course there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► the the customer replacement unit thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► so it's difficult to tell like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/763">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► people said they always just say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► they're all remanufactured which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► necessarily true you may be getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► brand new one you may not but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► supposed to be you should make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/774">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► difference you know what I mean like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► it should look and feel brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► because the outsides definitely are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► brand new and so is the battery and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► should work as well as a regular one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► fact it's many people only the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► sent feedback said that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► remanufactured problems have a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► chance of being good than a brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► one because only a small percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► the iphones that come off the assembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► line are like extensively tested you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► know and every possible and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► can't you just can't test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► five million um to the degree that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► can retest these Mary manufactured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► phones so you know you can get a dead on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► arrival thing whereas the chances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/805">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► very low that our remanufactured phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► going to be dead on arrival because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► had all its insides had were tested to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► death to see if they could be used as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► remanufactured parts power adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► batteries headphones and cetera are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► always brand new period no exceptions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41 ◼   ► guess they're just too small and cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► like it's not worth it three manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► them computer boards is a mixed bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► new memory furbished and you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► them are tested and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► and all parts are warrantied the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► remainder of your applecare warranty or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/833">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► 90 days whichever is longer so there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/836">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► have it I hope we have put this issue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► bed entirely it is a complicated process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► and by the way I'm sure these policies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/845">TS</a>]

00:14:06 ◼   ► change and I'm sure all these policies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► are subject to the discretion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► store manager or whatever like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► you can always make exceptions so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► actually feel a little bit better about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► you know if my phone was bad and I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► remanufactured when I wouldn't feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► bad about it because really what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► care about is like the outside looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► nice and everything and certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► battery is new but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► remanufactured insides probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► bother me that much yeah I know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► know you and I know that they bother you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► a lot I'm not like because I'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► same like I want something that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► to be reliable and like how much human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► attention has been paid to the insides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► of a brand new iphone to make sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42 ◼   ► a hundred percent reliable versus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► remanufactured wonder you're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► saying that you feel that maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► remanufactured ones are better yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► if you know again if there's no such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► design flaw in the products already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► obscure thing that like at least at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► least I know a human has totally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► I'm sure people were gonna feedback said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► oh well you know in the assembly line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► every component is tested and so on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► forth it just seems to me that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► have enough time to dedicate the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04 ◼   ► human attention to testing the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► that come off the assembly line as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► compared the time you have dedicates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► remanufactured phones I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/911">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► haven't had a problem with any of my iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► devices not even a bad home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► although the home button on my current i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► buy that is a little wonky but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/923">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► enough for me to go to replace it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► it's out of warranty anyway so so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28 ◼   ► you have it and I still haven't brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► my thunderbolt spray display back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► can we do our first sponsor so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► times yeah you go cough or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► you're gonna you don't sound as bad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► when you first started you sounded awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► I'm muting all I cough oh okay our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► sponsor today is squarespace.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► everything you need to make an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► website fully hosted completely managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► doesn't matter what kind of sight you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► going to make I've told you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► features a lot so today I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► tell you about their features well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► i'll mention it it's like drag and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► stuff you don't need to know CSS or HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► or if you do you can become a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► and you can SFTP or use get to tweak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► modify and customize the templates or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/967">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► build your own but that's not what i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► going to tell you about the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► we use square space in the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► you might want to use Squarespace is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► it's basically foolproof because I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/974">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► rather spend my time doing shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/977">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► building this business then building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► software to do something that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/981">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► solved problem and they've done a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► really good job at solving this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► and they're gonna save you a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► you need to worry about scaling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► don't need to worry about downtime you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► don't need to worry about design even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► and if you're building something for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► customer or client that you have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► want to deploy it you want to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► they're not going to screw it up that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► what customers sometimes do you can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► this to them and you can put it in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► of them and you know that they will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► mess things up because they can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► great software really great company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► behind it and they've been a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► support to us here love it if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► go and check them out but you get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► you pay for i say that all the time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► like to understand completely my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► relationship with a company i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► don't think things should be free if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► they're really good and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► Squarespace is not free i mean it's free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► to start out and try but it's 10 bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► month for a standard playing twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► bucks for the unlimited plan if you sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► up for a year you get twenty percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► you sign up for two years to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► twenty-five percent off and in either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► case you get a free domain name with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and if you use my code you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► get an additional ten percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► whether you do the month-to-month thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► or not code is dan sent me ten because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► there's october tenth month dan sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► ten you can go to squarespace com / 5 by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► 5 and even just going there will support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► the show that's all you have to do is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► visit that URL supports the show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► consider signing a boy in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► squarespace com such five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► what's next shot you know I think I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► do one more follow-up by them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► we'll be then we'll move on okay could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► we do this one quickly this is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► ipod touch wrist strap we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► one last show why does it have a wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► strap why doesn't the phone never wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► strap is it because kids used ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► and kids drop it more will they will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► strap because it can you imagine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► strap ever coming to the phone what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► people use it all sorts of questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► like that and so here the lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► theories we got the number one piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► feedback and i guess we didn't mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► this on the show is that the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► the wrist strap is on the ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► because cameras typically have wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21 ◼   ► straps and it's emphasizing the improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► camera on the ipod touch are emphasizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► it's used as a camera and so here are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► couple of variations in that theory Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► I wrote in to say that the camera theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► is corroborated by the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37 ◼   ► ipod touch page on the apple website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► shows the strap only in the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► promoting the improved camera so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► go to the ipod touch page just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► new taller screen and faster cpu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► blah blah in a little section i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► better camera that's the only one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► shows it with the strap and it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► that you know horizontal like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► point-and-shoot camera be with the strap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► Oh insane may also many people send us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► feedback but Sam I did as well that we I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► said the wrong price for the ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02 ◼   ► on the show it's not two hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► fifty dollars it's actually 299 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► that's only because only 32 and 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► gigabyte models are available and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11 ◼   ► those are the same prices they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► worth is just no more 16 gig model so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► it's still I mean the bottom line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► still to get the good quote unquote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► good new ipod touch the starting price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► is higher than it was before but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► actually three hundred not 250 but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► aren't in kudos aren't you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► those aren't technically increases in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► prices because they're the same as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► 32 and 64 although i'm still fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► cranky about the memory sizes of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► ipods like how many years can you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► keep going with 16 32 and 64 and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► say oh like that's you know your Flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► RAM never gets cheaper mmm isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► curious right like the 16 I'm glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► get rid of the eights I feel like the 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► should all be gone and there should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► 128 there you know they just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► shift them up a year maybe they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► double them a year maybe they stay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► same for two years and crank up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► Apple is notoriously bad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► that their previous really bad habit was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► putting a ridiculously low amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► stock ramener max which always boggled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► my mind because I know their margins are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► big on the RAM especially the for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► crazy prices they charge and they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► up all their money in that you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► it like it makes you it makes your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► product look worse it makes your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► operating system look worse it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► your apps look worse to have a ram star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► Mac like when they were coming with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► now 22 gigs of RAM it's painful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► even know someone it's like hey I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25 ◼   ► new mac and you help me come set it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► and you go to their house and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► like oh god you have two gigs and RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► and so all these cool things that I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► I could show you you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► grinding or crappy 5400 RPM like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► old technology but you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► grinding here 5400 rpm laptop drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► everything's gonna be really slow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► you're gonna be disappointed and boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► this machine would really fly if it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► four or eight gigs of ram and replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► those numbers with whatever the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► equivalents are Apple used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► terrible about ran they're getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► little bit better these days and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► this what do you think the thinking was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► behind that John why why have such small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► allotment of RAM music is that I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► lot of the margin would be in the RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► because you'd be like uh you know anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► who knows anything would be like oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► I'm not buying the stock Ram I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► gonna add more and if you're lazy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► sell I'll have apple add more and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► would charge you crazy markup on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► additional RAM and you know even nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► are susceptibles that like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► always buy my own third-party ran but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► sometimes like I'm just doubling it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► four to eight on my wife's laptop i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► just order from apple i know i'm losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► like 50 bucks but just you know you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► you just you know want to do it like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► my mac pros i always buy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► minimal not a ram in the by third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► Rambis it was crazy to buy it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► Apple daram was tremendously expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► and they fully buffered dims that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► these mac pros were you know incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► expensive to begin with and then apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► were twice that price and so that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► would start to add up but sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► just get lazy and I think Apple knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► that I think Apple knows that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► going to get talked out of the bargain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► basement bottom line get the one with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► little more ram but I just I still see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► lot of people with the bargain-basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► one that's not this is not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► machine and make this makes apple look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► bad they're making themselves look bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► so I'm glad to see them crank that up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► little bit I think they have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► exact problem with iOS devices that n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► eight gig device just makes apple look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► bad because you put like three apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► there with the stupid retina graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► now your host right and even a 16 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► I got a season of you know my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► TV show and nothing else yeah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► feel then it's not so easy to manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► storage on iOS devices we all know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► like even experts have like I have how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► do i free up some space it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► you you know that they try to keep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► from hosing yourself we just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► randomly delete stuff I guess you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► delete apps but it's like well go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► storage management which no one knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► where that is and see which apps taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► up more room and people might think oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► my god this this application is huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37 ◼   ► it's not the applications just all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► files associated with that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► are lumped into that application if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► just delete the files but maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► no UI to do that you have to use itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► and it's it's a problem so i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► behooves Apple to crank up that flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► memory a little bit faster than they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► all right I Jim lipsy says that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► didn't add the wrist strap as a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► of the ipod touch they added an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► accessory mount point and included a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► demo of what you can do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► accessory not point and he likens it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► the Kensington security slot like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► know what the he's saying the feature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► not the strap the feature is the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► bump out thing and hey you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► could do whatever you want with that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► apple says for example you can use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► strap I think that's interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17 ◼   ► if other you know third party accessory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► manufacturers start releasing all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► of other things you can attach to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► that thing I'm not sure quite how sturdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► that is I don't know if it's Kensington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► security slots derby but someday I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► see 1 i'll check it out barbour tada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► tada says in Japan it's very common for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► ladies to have multiple little charms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► attached to their phone by the loop for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► the wrist strap right so there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► maybe that was partially influenced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► that the idea of what you want to attach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► dangly things to it and by the way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► not a dangly key person and it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► me I don't want to be sexist here but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► seems to me that if you were to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► the key ring or keychain of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► males in the United States and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► females there would be more dangly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► things on the females key chains on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► averages yeah absolutely absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► right and my producer how do you shaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► your head yes and and it's it's true her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► keychain is like 20 30 feet long with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► things looped on and she doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► have a bad one if I mind is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15 ◼   ► minimum i have like one ring and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► idea that i have to have like my office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► keys i even have a separate ring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► those because i don't want to schlep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► that around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► need it yeah like what's your key ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► look like John I love to see that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► a single I have a good key ring story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► but I'll savor for the after dark okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► but I just have a single metal ring with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► the only the keys that I need on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► there are no accessories there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► additional things it's as small as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► could possibly make it even that's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► you know that's too much I bet you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► george costanza wallet don't you little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► remote door opener thing for your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► those those are huge I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► you've got a george costanza wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► though five bucks says I do not know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► about you do I keep I keep it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► tight that will sit I'll be the judge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► that all right and finally Tom in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► says it doesn't matter which devices get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► dropped the most what matters is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► the purchaser thinks will be dropped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► most adults buying themselves iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08 ◼   ► probably think themselves competent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► safe but when buying touches for kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► maybe they want to strap so it's a sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► time feature that's another interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► angle on it doesn't matter what gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► dropped more because I was we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► pondering that last show do ipod touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► get dropped more like Apple would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► based on like their repair rates maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► they could say percentage of iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► that come back with damage from dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► and maybe the ipod touch is way higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► than the iphone but he's saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► doesn't matter what actually gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► dropped all it matters is what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► think we'll get dropped more so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► you're going to buy your kid knight pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► touch the strap is a sales feature to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► say oh don't worry it comes to the strap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39 ◼   ► whether the kid will ever use the strap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► or whatever it's it's to get you over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the hump and buy the thing so i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► that was an interesting angle I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► it's all we have on straps time to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► to today's topic we're doing pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► I think so far they are doing good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► today's topic is saved over from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► week I want to talk about app net and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► saved over from many many weeks ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► want to talk about 10 20 that was in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► notes friend remember how long ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► it's just I've just been dragging it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► along and now finally the time is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► to talk about these two things again we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► talked about apt than that on past shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► about their funding model about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► Kickstarter like project we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► actually use Kickstarter about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► funded it but had my doubts about it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► sorts of stuff like that the reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► comes up again or came up again last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► week is because app.net started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► something called the app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► developer incentive program the link is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► in the show notes this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► system whereby app.net disperses money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► to developers of app net clients and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► for this first thing that they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► to be dispersing at least twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► thousand dollars per month to eligible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► app that net developers and it starts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► october first so that was a couple days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► ago and here's the interesting parts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► the dollar amount will be allocated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► participating developers based on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► scores in relation to the total score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► among participating developers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► basically if you are a user of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► app.net service you know and you paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► some money to be user of the app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► service you have like a little slider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► type thing as it shows all hero the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► you used for this month the client apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► are at the net that you use adjust these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► sliders based on how valuable you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► they are to you so it's not based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► like how much you use them whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► just have sliders in sight you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► application number one that was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► valuable to me i put the slider all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► way to the right application number to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► maybe do it halfway or whatever it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► don't think they have to add up to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► total it just like adjust the sliders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► based on how valuable they think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► are obviously you didn't use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► application it won't show up on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► list of things that you used and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► assuming you get to do this after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► month is over so you can't retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► actively go back and use an app that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► forgot to use or something so based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► how many people you know if I just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► down to a ratio they add up all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► scores and see who what the number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► most valuable and was the number two in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► the number three and figure out how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► break down percentage wise and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► divvy up the pot of money amongst the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► applications according to the percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► and right um so a couple of the points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► in this this program is entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► optional at you if you are a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► out of apt on that clients and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► want to participate you don't have to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► just ignore it goes away developers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► free to monetize their applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► through their own mechanisms so this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► no effect on how you want to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► from your app than that client you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► to sell it on the app store you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► give it away for free you want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► open source you want to sell it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► your website you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► subscription like whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► do with your app that net client make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► money however you want app then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► doesn't care you don't to participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► this program you don't have to they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► this should we thought it was a bonus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► for building software that app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► number members use in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► and the final point on their little back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► here I think is really important one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► says is important that users do not feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► pressured bullied or guilted into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► providing feedback anyone who's used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► ebay notice how this goes you must send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► me feat five star feedback send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► feedback I need you to say I'm awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► because John terrible right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► cannot do that is that they say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► for developers who attempt to influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► the incentive program by directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► soliciting votes from the users will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► suspended from the program so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► even try to say hey guys don't forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► you know put my slider all the way up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20 ◼   ► the end and say I'm super valuable at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► the end of that's it you're out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► program all right and I think these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► all excellent rules and this system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► definitely structured in a way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► doesn't mess with anyone else's stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► and you can totally ignore it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► don't think it's important now what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► surprised me about this like since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► last week when this came out is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► lots of people have come out against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► this program and that surprises me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► because it seems like you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► don't like it I don't don't use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► like a dick and it doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► affect you one way or the other but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► like the mere existence of this program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► like poisons the well in some way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► makes it makes the ecosystem for app net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► client applications worse in some way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► just don't see that but I have put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► link to something written by Charlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► Kindel called ping developers is a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► idea that is actually referencing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► idea of like rim and Microsoft and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► like that trying to pay developers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► write for their sort of beleaguered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► mobile platforms legitimate use of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► term against non-apple companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► achievement unlocked hey write write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► write your application port your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► application to rim you know and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► pay you ten thousand dollars guaranteed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► and bubbles so like so here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► courtroom think paying developers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:31 ◼   ► target your platform is a sign of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► desperation doing so I mean developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► have no skin in the game a platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► were developed or not do not have skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► in the game is artificially propped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► and will not succeed in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► like I agree with all this like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► if you can't get people to write apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► for your platform and you're a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► is I'm going to pay you to do it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► seems bad to me but I feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► a difference between that and what app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► that is doing because it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► they're it's not like app that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► company is taking a lot of its own money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► that came you know there's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► part of their budget and paying people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► out right please make an application for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► us we'll give you ten thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► instead what they're doing is taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► some small portion of the money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► their users pay to use the service which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► right away is totally different than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► know these companies who I guess maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► they're taking money from people who buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► rim playbooks or something but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► seems different to me because it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► direct line and they're giving it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► people who are already like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► already making applications and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► giving it based on how much the users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► like those applications so if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► makes them alright fine we'll make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► stupid part of our application to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► rim playbook and it's a crappy port but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► we don't care we get our money thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► see you later all right if you make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► cruddy app that net application you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► not going to get any of this money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► because no user is going to mark it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► valuable or even use it at all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► i think the incentives are pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► correctly aligned and i also kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► like the fact that it's a at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► initially a pretty small amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► twenty thousand dollars split among how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► many possible applications it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► going to make you rich or anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► just like a nice little bonus yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► think i think all of the incentives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► correctly aligned make an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► that people's like don't bug them about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► it and if they actually like it to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► the little slider up you get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► money the end of the month like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► what's so bad about that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► and let them make their money however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► they want let them sell through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► after like this this does not affect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► their business at all right it remains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► to be seen hat just how low profile will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► be maybe no one will ever vote and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► like three people will vote and give and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► the whole pot will go to like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► those three people liked maybe being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► prompted to vote for which applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► you like to be done an intrusive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► annoying way and it might annoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► people who use the service i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► at this point i think all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► involved in app net are kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► participants like me and you and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► other people it's all kind of a kumbaya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► we're a bunch of nervous we don't love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► each other type of thing and so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► all like be enthusiastic you'll be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► oh i love this app let me put my slider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► up and I'm you know you know give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► feedback to the apps we like that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► change if the the service ever becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► really popular and this may seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► an annoyance is like I don't care which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► perhaps get money I'm just never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► to look at that I just won't vote like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► voting is not mandatory I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► so I got actually got a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► feedback about this from Dalton Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► the app that net founder and I asked him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► there bro yeah I asked him if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► quote him to quote his email on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► but haven't heard back from so i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► really quote can you paraphrase it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► mean basically he agrees with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34 ◼   ► thing that paying developers to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► for platform is a bad idea but he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40 ◼   ► that's not what they're doing oh and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► actually tells a story about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► previous company where her rim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► Microsoft were actually wanted to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► them to port their stuff over but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► turned him down because it just seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► to get oh and this is not the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► is it's more of a a way to reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► developers who build applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► users like like that's the whole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► know everyone's incentives are aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► we want users to be happy we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► developers to be happy if developers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► not making users happy then they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► get anything no and presumably if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► developer is making a cruddy application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► they would have trouble selling it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► well right what's the next part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► I think the next thing I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► about is did I put this in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► notes this week was kind of a big weep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► week for app net for an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► reason related to this now let's keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► them in suspense let's let's do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► second sponsor and then all right sighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► I'm I'm I'm this is a good topic all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► right I mean they're all good John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► shutterstock.com is over 20 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► stock photos they do vectors at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► illustrations a new video clips you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► looking for something if you're building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► something you're building a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► you're building a presentation you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► to put something on some swag that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► want to you know give away in a show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► just need some color for your website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► whatever it is go check these guys out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► they've got photographers artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► illustrators all around the world it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► not like it's you know Western centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► we got a lot of listeners over in Asia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► did you know that young and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► photos and stuff from all corners of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► earth it doesn't matter you need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► need an image for a mock-up you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► working on go check these guys out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► doesn't matter then what I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► about them is they don't nickel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► diming they basically everything out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► there it's one price it's always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► highest best quality you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► extra for that like many other sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► it's one deal and as you're browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► around you don't have to open up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► million tabs which I don't really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► they have a really cool lightbox you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► just say oh I like this one checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► your lightbox and at the end you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► what you want to keep what you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► buy what package you want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► together and done and even have an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► app for all of this stuff because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► like like the iOS people they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► kinds of Licensing to that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► question somebody's ask me they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► enhanced licenses so that if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► put something and print it or put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► swag or use it and yeah you can get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► they offer that so here's what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► for our listeners John you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► thirty percent off any package once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► find the images you'd like and decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► purchase again all they're all on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► with the stand sent me thing dan sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► ten it's all you got to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► shutterstock.com dan sent me ten thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► percent off and go check them out thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► very very much there a new sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► shutterstock.com go check him out good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► job correctly surmising that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► blowing my nose when you yeah tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► ask me outside your death I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► something was going on so this thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► percent the record for highest discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► offered on the show that's my baby that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► is big alright kudos so the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► app.net happenings this week was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► won net bot was really hot and as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► might guess from the name if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► familiar with tap BOTS makers of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► fine iOS products whose name and in bot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► net bot is sort of an app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► version of tweed bot which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► extremely popular Twitter client for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► ah great your first of all this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► this is my iOS Twitter app of choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► it's also the app that I use on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► application that I use them OS 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► when this thing came out now in cuz just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► just yesterday somebody started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► complaining saying Dan for someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► talks about app done that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► sure don't use it well she has haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► had a good iOS app no offense to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► people have been making them but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► the one this is the one I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► waiting for yeah i've been using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34 ◼   ► app.net more than some of you other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► people who are extremely widely followed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► on app.net i might add anyway I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► using it anyway that i can and before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► there were iOS clients out there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► web clients that you could use an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► with a little you not just html5 web app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► and make a little home screen icon for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► it like short message with like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► vowels removed right that was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► not bad it was actually pretty good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► was using it that way in iOS for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and then i started using river riv are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► because that was a fairly recent maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► like a week ago iOS client and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► goddesses it was pretty good it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► than the web one but the reason net bot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► is such a big deal is because tweetbot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► is so incredibly popular and tap BOTS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► you know I top-tier iOS developer not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► that I'm saying any of the people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► the you know app that net was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► opportunity for people who are not well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► known developers to make a name for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► themselves like hey the very best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► app.net client is blonde you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► heard of these guys but they make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► bet it's kind of the same way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► icon factory made its name with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► twitterrific or tap box for that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► with tweet bot like you come onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► scene in and enter a space that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► it hasn't isn't that crowded or you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► the head and shoulders above everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► else and you become a name right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► then maybe like the next time some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► social networking comes along people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► want you to port your thing over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► the interesting thing about net bot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► that net bot has been in development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► long before this developer incentive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► program was announced and you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► if you look at the like they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► services that log which application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► using to post to app net and there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► very popular client whose clients string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► was alpha my understanding is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► was actually net bought in disguise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► know during the beta testing period so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► that's been going on for a while like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► they didn't jump in here when they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► oh $20,000 divided amongst ten different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► client applications we got to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► of that know they sell the application i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► think it's like three dollars or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► dollars or something they sell it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► iOS App Store and that's how they plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► on making their money and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► they're doing pretty well if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► the stats i wish i could find this page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► with the thing of like what percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► of post app that are made by which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► clients and number one with a bullet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► net bot and its previous incognito alias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► alpha and everybody who is doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► paid money to get net bought and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► good thing about app that net is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► everybody who's on app.net paid money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► be on app.net so they've proven they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► willing to pay money for the service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► what's you know a couple more bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► now I'm bought net bought as well I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► a tremendous number to our clients I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► have tweetbot I have twitterrific I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► a bunch of other ones that have long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► since been deleted off my phone that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► bought back in the day all I back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► like twinkle do you remember that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► mmm vaguely they would be so not within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the the developer guidelines to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► because they were like trying to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► their own social network on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► twitter anyway i buy lots of Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► clients but and I buy them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► they're a couple bucks and I want to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► them out but I have not ever really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► truly left my first love we just were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► terrific on both the mac and on iOS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31 ◼   ► I've had tweet bottom my phone forever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► just don't use but net bot is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:37 ◼   ► the at least the most polished app.net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:42 ◼   ► client I was about to say twitter client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► on the phone available now I would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► love to have twitterrific available um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► on the iOS instead of net pot I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► they were called a peripheral something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► like that operation there you go that'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► be a good one hey I'm gonna put that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► there apparition good name for an apt on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► that client go for it serious run yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► someone I'm just nice guy John I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► someone did avian a dia n which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► play on eight the letter a letter D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► letter n for appt net that was a cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► name oh I was using was it rhino or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► something like that before that yeah III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► this is the magic of the iOS app so do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► you think about it like you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► that go you know if they know me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► Coheed you only use twitterrific yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► but I buy all the other applications cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► they're like three bucks and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30 ◼   ► huh you know you never know how are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► gonna know like there's no trials so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► makes you go alright well buy it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► you know it may seem like i'm only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► supporting twitterrific but i buy every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► other half anyway and they don't i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► those people enjoy me buying their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► applications than not using them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► i don't bug them with with feedback but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► speaking of bugging with feedback people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► may be wondering this is a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► a tangent here but why what what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► difference between a net bot and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► theoretical twitterrific thing why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► use Twitter Africa not and not tweet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► when I for Twitter what's the big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► what's the big is like just because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► graphics like a lot of people the bots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► you know the tap BOTS graphics are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► sort of they do a custom ui's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► really nice but is kind of heavy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► not like a minimalist interface you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► they they do their own thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► make their own widgets and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► just look really cool but they are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► of heavy and some people don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► heaviness so they don't like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► doesn't look native like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► look like apples other application looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► like it looks like a tweet bot advocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► or a tap wats application so you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► that are you doing that's kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► aesthetic choice but that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► keeps me away from tweetbot what keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► me away from tweet pot and what makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► wish I had twitterrific frap net is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► I want what I call for lack of a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► term a unified timeline and for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► people who are making app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► clients since day one I've been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► okay guys like I know you're all making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► apps I net clients I would like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► your clients but i would like a unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► timeline so the first person to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► client with the unified timeline is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► going to get my you know my business if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► they sell it or my enthusiastic support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► if they don't sell it all just say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► you know people use people ask me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► what client are using to readapt net and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01 ◼   ► if you make me one with unified timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► i will use your client and so I used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► series of app.net clients for the mac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► the beginning but none of them offered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► unified timeline and then finally wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► did and that's the one I'm currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► using on the Mac I should put it get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► URL for that like is like wedge net Nate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► sm com here asking me I don't know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► wedge dot Nate Steadman calm Nate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► Steadman why would I know that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► handles Nathan o course named Aiden made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► Steadman yeah well you make it make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► name for yourself I'd never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► Nate Steadman before uh but now who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:38 ◼   ► doesn't know Steadman I mean he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40 ◼   ► nice and he made an app that neckline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► which is you know interesting and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► looks like a lot of the other clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► but the big feature it has the unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► timeline now what do I mean by that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► I mean by unified timeline is on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► Twitter and app.net and I these similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► services I many applications I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► most application at this point let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► choose what you're viewing so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► view what they usually call your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► timeline which is the the posts from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► people you follow and also includes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► posts that you make all right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► there's another usually a tab or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► button or a view or some other screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► that you change to that shows replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► and or mentions where these are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► you don't follow but they wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► at whatever your handle is in the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► or they reply directly to you sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► those are distinguished like a direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► reply versus someone that just mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► your name in the middle of a post it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► so hard not to call these tweets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► that that is what i say is a non unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► thing so a unified timeline is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► twitterrific has and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► twitterrific was i believe the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► first twitter twitter client application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► that wasn't a website i could be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► on this but if it wasn't the first it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► was surely the first prominent one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► it ad from day one what I call unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► timeline which is that the post from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► people you follow and also the post from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► the people who mentioned your name are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► replied to you are in a single list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► sorted chronologically and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► color-coded and stuff so you could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► like oh this is a reply so you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► it why am I seeing this is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► someone mentioned my name versus this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► a post from somebody who I follow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► anytime I mentioned a unified timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► lots of people say I don't like unifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► timeline I please don't listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► person because I just make requests you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► know anyone who makes a cool client like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► hey I'd love it if you had a huge fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► timeline guys and then other people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27 ◼   ► don't listen to him I don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► unified timeline don't put that in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► I mean you know we all we all can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► petition developers to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► application we want and the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► decide what you're doing is fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► it's really not an either-or proposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► because a lot of these applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► wedge included have like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► sidebar thing that is icons like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► little @ sign that shows your replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► and like a little house icon that shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48 ◼   ► like your timeline and there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► another icon that has a house with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► little adnate that shows them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53 ◼   ► combined like it's just an additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► view on the stream of things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► happening in iOS kinds it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► harder because sometimes it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► we don't have a room for another button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► there and so we have to choose do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► include replies in the single stream or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► not and so maybe they might not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► add that me knows I developers can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► the applications they want to make and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► if you look at the the Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► applications out there I believe most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► them do not have unified timelines but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► the thing I'm always stressing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► people in discussing is a unified Taman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► is not some crazy thing that I made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► it's what twitterrific did since day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► the the grandfather of all Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► clients and I've been using it since day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► one and I like it and so this is big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► this just reflects the way that you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► particular have always used Twitter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► use twitter yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► almost like a it's an email client of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37 ◼   ► sorts for you yeah that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► questions from from developers is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► Oh asking me because I'm the prominent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► person complaining about it what what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► it about a unified timeline that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► like I think you've actually mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► this on past shows and it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52 ◼   ► simple answer for me I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► check one place for stuff it drives me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► crazy to to read you know Twitter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► wrap the nut or whatever and say I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► look at my timeline then I gotta look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► my replies they don't look at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► timeline I gotta look at my replies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► want to see one list of stuff that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► working my way through like 1q it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► why why separate your York you into two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► separate things uh it's one place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► check right and the other part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► since I tend to get a lot of replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► from people who I don't follow mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► because I followed very few people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► you know second because I have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► followers and so they'll reply to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► I converse with them like I'm I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► just looking at the replies with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► curiosity I reply back to them and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► it with a split timeline my replies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► them show up in the timeline but their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► replies to me show up on this other pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► like they're not interleaved so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► hard to keep track of the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► if they were all on one thing i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► see i say this then you say that then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► say this then you say that and you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► that then i said this right it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► conversation in a single place instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► of being split up into two panes then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► have to reconcile them by date stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► which is hard because they we say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► to em for two minutes ago or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► and you have to you know which one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► refreshed at the right time and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► those numbers updating real it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► making to me now when I think about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► talked about this originally on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► I said that the only not the only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► general reason but a reason that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► see that you would definitely want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► split things if you have tremendous no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► deliver falls like I have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► followers but not like you know famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► person number of followers like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► have like a hundred thousand followers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► or a million followers or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► you've got to have those replies on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► separate tab and those mentions on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► separate n because otherwise you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► never be able to read anything than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► people you follow and maybe lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► famous people don't read anything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► the people they fall anyway but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► the Gruber was my example he's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► have his replies on a separate tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► because anytime he post anything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► thousand replies and he would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► destroy his timeline for him like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37 ◼   ► every time you post anything 500 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► may contain replies to you or not or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► not a name even you know thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► replies you can't read your timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► anymore because it's just totally filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► with reply so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► I feel is a very legitimate reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► absolutely want to have replies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► mentions separate there are there many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► other reasons including just personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55 ◼   ► preference that you want them separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► like that's just the way you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► it but that is a strong reason but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► still seems weird to me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► dominant metaphor has become two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► separate places because i see i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► imagine all these people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► checking the two places for each thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► like it you know people don't like have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► the check both twitter and app.net and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► i'm getting annoyed by that too right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► but Twitter is Terms of Service don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► allow unified client and blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► anyway but now you're making yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► how to check for places you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► drek your Twitter timeline your Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► mentions and replies then your app then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► at timeline then your app that mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► in replies and one of them highlights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► but the other one doesn't and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28 ◼   ► switching back and forth them adjust I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► do not like it so I'm very happy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► wedge provides a unified timeline and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► would love it if an iOS client would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► provide a unified timeline it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► mean that that client has to provide it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► is the default it doesn't mean that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► has to remove any of the other views you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► know I'll take what I can get make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► make it a preference make it a another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► button on a toolbar you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► you want to do you know for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► twitterrific has a separate view for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► mentions as well I never use it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► there if that's what you want so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► really hope that in the diversity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► developers out there making clients wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► that knot that somebody on iOS does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► and I would encourage the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► like who do it the other way to give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► unified timeline a try because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► it's not going to be as crazy as i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► it's going to be especially if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► get a ton of replies it like it just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► know it just makes it have one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► that you're going to check I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► certainly tried the other way for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► like basically every other client that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► try is it has split and like a now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► using net bought as my main app.net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► client right split like so I'm doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29 ◼   ► that way I'm not like I'm basing this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► like fear of the unknown I have many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► many years experience using the split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► timeline so i would encourage people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► use a split time when to give a unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► want to try and where can you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► well twitterrific on the mac or on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► or if you're not done that try wedge do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► you have any predictions on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► possibility of a twitterrific type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► app.net client from our friends over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► icon fat gun factory well that's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► thing about net pot coming in like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► we've had these app that net accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► like me you just mention people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► oh you're on at the net but you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► use it right and one thing is like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► I'm not using it because they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► find a client that alike or just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► worked it into my workflow or it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► annoying to check to place like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► already on Twitter to have to check two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► places but someone is prominent as tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► BOTS coming in with such a well-known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► property as the you know net bot tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► but type brand that says all wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► second this app that net thing might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► be a joke it's not just a bunch of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► nerds and a bunch of like first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► developers trying to hack stuff together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► here some serious stuff was going on uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► and the interesting thing is I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► imagine that doesn't cause a flood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► new users all it does is make all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► users who page 50 bucks like a month ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► like wake up and go what bring a pots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► made a client paramedical alright i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► guess i can use this service now oh I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► put it on I'll put it on my phone I note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► at lies i use tweetbot i love it i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► just put it next to the tweet by now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► got the the blue nightmare duck and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► gray nightmare done nice man i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► terrified by that icon i think it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► think it's horrifying uh it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► beautifully drawn my objection is to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► to the concept of giant robo duck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► big orifice anyway and it great and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05 ◼   ► middle the orifice uh and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► activity on that that has exploded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► like the past couple of days I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► you've noticed that oh yeah totally it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► it's great and I'm like it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► that I would look at at that end they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► be like to post since yesterday now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► keeping up with that but net sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► is more activity there than in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► Twitter for you now granted you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► the microcosm of my nerd world yeah all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► my nerd friends and the people i follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► were like over enough net whereas just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► Joe random person has never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► that the net and none of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► follow her over there but in the nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► world activity really picked up and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► got to think it's not because a flood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► new people decided to pay thirty-six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► bucks or five bucks a month for app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► net I think what it is is people already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► paid woke up and start using the account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► they already had and I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► tremendously important milestone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► history of app net is that they got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► a top-tier developer to bless their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► service now her icon factory get back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► your question I'm sure liked at BOTS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► they had decided what their plan was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► trapped on that long ago before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► developer incentive program and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► certainly like before the new with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► other developers I don't think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► talking to each other and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► factor you can do that net because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► might do it like I don't I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► they don't have that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► communication but who knows but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► the calculus for tap BOTS probably was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► we've got a well factored application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► making a version of it for app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► would not be too difficult we've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► done like most of the work if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► your application if you factor it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► well and you don't mix your UI with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► you know networking and content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► generation stuff you can't you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► not so bad to make an application point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► to different service and they figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► you know what the heck it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► that probably do the same calculus we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► just talked about like all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► showed a willingness to pay money we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► know people like our products on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► maybe we'll make some money off of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► and I'm sure when they saw the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► and center program they're like oh hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► you know bonus will probably get some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► that too so thumbs up right icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► factories got to be doing the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► I mean I can factory unfortunately my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► understanding is there in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► I mean they're always in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► like they're they're working on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► if eclair flagship product and they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► some post to say despite all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► Twitter things that are happening we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► still committed to twitterrific working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► hard on the next version like they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► these blog post on our website you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► all systems go we're still doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► this could be a distraction but on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► other hand of their app is also well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► fact or not they figured hey I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► know give it a try maybe the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► version of two terrific when it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► out we'll have a companion application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► that works in app net I would not expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► a version of the existing twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► like ported tap net i would say whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► the new version is whatever that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► to look like for the mac and iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► ipad and you know all that stuff there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► may be a version of that that appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► app then i guess based on no inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► information i'm just speculating Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► speculating / hoping you know because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► love that application but it isn't hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► wedge is coming along nicely and as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► one developer who is most responsive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► my incessant whining about features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► bug reports I give a Nate Steadman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► application I thumb up and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► free right now so I just need something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► like that on iOS so I think it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► good week trap net yeah very good week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► for them best maybe best week since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► got their funding even yeah i mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► they've gotten stages one was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► curiosity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► that I felt bad about even like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30 ◼   ► to support it because I really want what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► they're doing to succeed but I just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► like it's not going to a Marco had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► same feeling like God just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► they're not going to make it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► really endorse what they're doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► and the second one was holy cow they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► made their goal right twice over right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► and then it's like now what like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► two days where we all talk about app.net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► on app.net there we go all right so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► what we do this is it anyway back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► twitter right right and but now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► like all right now this is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► serious the people over there the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► is there the client app is there and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► people are talking and they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► talking about the fact that net bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► is there they're not just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► bugs in app that net clients they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► just having you know totally unrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► conversations about you know the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► stuff that you you converse about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► don't know what they were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► you know the singleton conference in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► follow stream and what else would I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► some question about whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► capitalize bullying and documentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► that's nothing to do with app that net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► and that spawned a big conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► there like people are using it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► talking about podcasts talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► five by five stuff you know people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► using it as a real service now so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► know there's it's this a stair-step type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► thing the next big hype i post i posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:42 ◼   ► today i was going to say i tweeted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► posted an app that net today that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► next big step in app thought nets rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► to power Fame and success is they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► to have crippling performance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► reliability problems because that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► like one of the stepping stones right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► you have to go through that phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► otherwise you haven't you haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► made it that was half a joke but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► kind of half because what that means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► that people you know what it means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► you're on a hockey stick now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► like your usage has gone up to such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► degree that you just can't keep up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► it like you thought you were prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► you thought you had you know a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► that would handle you're scaling but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► just didn't anticipate like the huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► ramp up in activity and like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► goes down and we see your fail whale and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► we complain about it and hopefully we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► stay with the service and you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► maybe that's the next stair step what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► stores i sponsor John before you jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► into your next speaking right thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► a Shopify com a hosted e-commerce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► solution these guys are the really i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► in my opinion the best e-commerce store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► around this is who we use whenever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► sell our t-shirts and anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► we've ever sold in fact going back way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► to the old days of Hiva logic when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► used to sell t-shirts back there I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► always used Shopify to do this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► it's the simplest way to do it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► most straightforward way to do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► they really just handle everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► can make their store look exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► way that you want it to just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► customizing their templates you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► full control over the HTML over the CSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► and in fact if you go to Shopify calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► well go to shop 5.com / 5 by 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► you'll support the show and you'll also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► get a discount I'll tell you about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► once you're there click examples there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► are over 30,000 stores powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► shopify and most of them look completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► different from one another and on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► examples page you can go in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► you can totally see what's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► these are customized templates these or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► unique designs and oh so what if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► not a designer pick one of the templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► there's also galleria templates you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► buy you can spend you know 10 20 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► for something that a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► designer has built and you can customize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► it and use it for your own store it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► really really cool and these guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► been a long time supporter and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► they are really really great these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► the guys again that i use and i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► believe in them what they're doing oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► and by the way the technical thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► do something called level one pci DSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► compliance well if you want to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► something there's a lot of government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► regulations you get to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► there's a lot of security measures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► you're supposed to take and they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► they do it all for you it's all secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► it's all ssl to everything you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► possibly want and if you if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► that that URL Shopify accomplished five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24 ◼   ► by five not only will you support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► show you'll also get three months free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► instead of the typical one month free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► three months free so you can open your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► store and sell stuff and it's on us so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► go check it out Shopify 2.com / 505 all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► right all right next bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► I guess I have to skip this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► little bit because running a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► long time so I want to talk about tent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► owe or just tint as they refer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► themselves like this tent dot IO is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► their domain because I'm sure tint comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► net and org we're all taken by domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► squatters / camping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► squatters / camping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► paraphernalia sellers so they've got 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► I 0 which kind of makes sense because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► it's nerdy and I Oh input-output all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► that 8d it's a say open decentralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► social network in protocol right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11 ◼   ► this comes up in the context of abnett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► because it its goal not its goals but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► like what the what you what would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► with 10 thought I do you kind of do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► similar stuff what you do with a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► and like app net there's the promise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► doing more than just Twitter like status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► updates with it and so this has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► around for a while like I said I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► it on my show notes for weeks what tent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► is is a protocol not so much a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► or a service and they do that's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► the decentralized thing so talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► centralized versus decentralized I'm try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► to explain it to the people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► understand what the difference is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► centralized is something like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► Facebook Netflix or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50 ◼   ► there's one owner of the service twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► is a corporation they own twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► facebook owns facebook netflix owns that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► and and that defines the service the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► owner defines the service twitter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► twitter and cooperated facebook is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► company Netflix is that company to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► you know to figure out what it is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► seeing what it's not it's as if gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► was the only place you could do email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► the gmail was email and we know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► not true gmail is an email provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► email is the open decentralized service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► but gmail doesn't define email female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19 ◼   ► goes away tomorrow email lives on if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► Netflix goes away tomorrow Netflix is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► gone streaming video isn't gone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► Netflix of the service is gone Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► the company goes away Facebook the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► service goes away and same deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► Twitter right and same deal with App net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► if app.net goes away that service goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► away as well because it is owned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► defined by the company decentralized you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► can think of Lee centralized as a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► not as a place or a company so email is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► a thing right gmail is like a place you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► go to do email and gmail is owned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► Google which is a company but email is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► the thing I'm an email is decentralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► nobody owns email so if gmail starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► doing evil things like putting ads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56 ◼   ► the middle of your outgoing mail or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► know whatever you pick another email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00 ◼   ► provider email doesn't go away you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► you just say okay I don't like Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► anymore they are a provider of the sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► centralized service called email but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► can go to yahoo hotmail make my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► hosting service you could run your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► mail server like email is an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► decentralized protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► by no single company right and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► kind of a pain to change emails so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19 ◼   ► owners of your you know your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► service provider whether sort of do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► matter a bit like for example if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► have a crappy owner of your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► service who won't allow forwarding to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► your new address i think hotmail did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► that for a while like if you want or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► yahoo maybe unremember which one if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► wanted to forward to a new address you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► had to pay money or whatever so you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► want to change the new email and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► all your friends hey everybody my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42 ◼   ► email address is going to be whatever at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► whatever service or my own server com or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► whatever start emailing me there but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48 ◼   ► also want people who don't have who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► didn't get that updater things going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► your old address to be forwarded to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► new place so it does make a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► who you pick as your email provider but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► email itself cannot be killed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► evil deeds of any single company by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► company going out of business or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► anything like that and in the end you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► can change your email like sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► is painful and you got to pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► forwarding or you gotta you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► sorts of shenanigans I i had an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► address for two decades or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► that I continued to pay for it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► because too much stuff kept going to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► and I did the conversion to gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► several years ago and I still find ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► that are going to that old email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► that I no longer have but it can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► done it can be done successfully uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► once you do that six you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► changeover you change from gmail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► hotmail to self hosted to whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► want but you never leave email nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► leaves email I don't think I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► seen anyone who does to leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► internet like you can leave twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► you can leave facebook but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46 ◼   ► really leave email because you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► in the same system as everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► right I thought I was out they dragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► me back yeah maybe Merlin's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► leave email but I look he's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► successful he doesn't that guy's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► used a computer in years that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► what this means is that no one bad actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► can kill email right bad actors can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► cause people to change services and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► have most most nerds fled yahoo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► gmail and hotmail for gmail because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► didn't like those people most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► left AOL mail but none of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17 ◼   ► could kill email so the next bit i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20 ◼   ► in the show notes is a story from dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:21 ◼   ► winer entitled this from while ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► tired protocols don't mean much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► because 10 thought I 0 is a protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► like the protocols that make up email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► and so Dave is weighing in to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► know it does anyone can write a spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► right it doesn't doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► how awesome your protocol is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► matters is the software supporting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► protocol what content is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43 ◼   ► through it and how compelling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► content is and his point is the RSS a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► protocol that he was intimately involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► in it became popular not because of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► great design but because there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► significant amount of valuable content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► flowing through it so RSS is popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► because people who have blogs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► people want to read put in RSS feeds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► you didn't you weren't interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► like oh I love the RSS protocol you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► interested in oh this guy whose stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► want to read I want to know every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► you post something new if I subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10 ◼   ► his feed this cool Mac application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► that's the software supporting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13 ◼   ► protocol is out there called netnewswire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► and it will tell me when all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► i'm interested in post new stuff and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► can read it that's why RS has succeeded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► certainly not because it's an austin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► protocol and i think anyone's work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► RSS might have some complaints about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► he points out sometimes the protocol is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► so bad that it can kill a chance of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► thing catching on like for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32 ◼   ► soap w SL did you ever actually do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► of that stuff yeah i did all that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► soap I did xml-rpc I did all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► garbage what is it w DSL I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► remember the other acronym one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► W yeah thus those are hideous protocols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► awful yeah and like they were so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► that I think that contributed greatly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52 ◼   ► that not catching on and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► rest and JSON they're like oh god like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► now we never have to look at soap again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► please just go away right so it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► really works as a negative if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► an awesome protocol it doesn't matter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► you don't have other things if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► a terrible protocol yeah I can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► sink right so he finishes with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► think of protocol as a road you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► have a wonderful road well-paved wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13 ◼   ► lanes great rest areas but if it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► from nowhere to nowhere it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► to be very popular no matter how nice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► is um so I think basically what he means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► is it a good protocol alone doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► you that much ah but of course at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► protocol doesn't meet some minimum level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► of sanity i guess like soap did not meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► that minimum level of sanity then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► can end up having big problems now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► getting back the email for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► emails protocols were not designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► today's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► emails protocols you know smtp pop IMAP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► to some degree were designed a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► ago in the very different world smtp and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49 ◼   ► pop have very little security and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51 ◼   ► security should be in like seventeen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► levels of scare quotes you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► pop security used to be you know user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► space username pass space clear text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► password going over and unencrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► channel that's not that's not great like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03 ◼   ► it was it was a kinder gentler world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► back then and people didn't really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► about security that much right uh and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► both cases smtp in pop there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmXIIQQ/4030">TS</a>]