The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable 160 hey remember 2013 [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable i'm [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► your host Jason snail and i'm joined by [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► a a cast of people who have decided that [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► even other mom told them the TV rots the [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► brain basis they thought that lets a [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► little rots I could watch TV [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► it's that we're going to talk about the [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► fall TV season returning shows new shows [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► but we're liking what we're not liking [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► so that you can listen to the show file [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► it away listen to it in three years when [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► these things come on net six so or maybe [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► you can watch them right now joining me [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► are four gentlemen who all had let their [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► brains right by watching television [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► first off its he made you may know him [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► as the guy who writes things but he also [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► watches TV David Laura hi David hi [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► yeah I need something to sort of wind [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► down not the writing turn off your brain [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► exactly a little TV [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► yes people told me you know you know [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► kids who watch too much TV they're going [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► to be a literal they're not gonna be [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► able to write anymore which is why you [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► know I am illiterate and don't write [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► dan Morin is also here Dan also is known [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► for watching television most but [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► particularly supernatural but he does [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► watch other programs to hide and the TV [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► that's what I thought [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► finally the real day and I get can't be [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► on a show without you making fun of [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► supernatural cheese [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► nope they watch supernatural I have you [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► know this for a fact i have several [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► episodes of it [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► yeah i'll talk about it later okay Andy [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► and Nicole is also here at a Renaissance [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► man and even people in the Renaissance [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► had lower art that they watched as well [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► as higher art now Weekend Television up [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► and we can do not know who is here hi [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► Andy [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► I just want to say that I my rod is more [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► like mulch and that it's too late for me [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► but hopefully it will cause newer and [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► lively register register administration [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► to do to bloom sure sir you seem to be [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► that that's that's the condescending [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► tone of voice Jason's a very very poor [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► way to start date duration is a [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► difficult word well I've only had like [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► three coats over 90 x 90 let me read [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► those myself but watching TV right now [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► all my mockery of television which I [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► love and watch way too much of and have [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► watched historically way too much of it [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► is just a lead-in to the fact that Scott [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► McNulty is here [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► the man who's read every book and not to [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► be stopped he is also watched many TV [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► shows hi Scott [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► if there's one thing I love as much as [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► books its television [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► wow that's saying something that's [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► impressive is true and i love book TV on [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► c-span it's my favorite show [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► I'm sure we would have to be it's [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► inevitable strip it's got have you ever [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► used like your big big like living room [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► TV to read books on just like in that [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► AT&T TV the future commercial for like [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► 1998 yes and then I hear Tom Selleck in [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► my voice saying you will thats that's [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► just magnum p.i on the TV that's a deep [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► cut their wa tul and commercial and my [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► day television was called books [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► yes thank you Peter Falk thank you [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► Columbo TVs colombo oh just one more [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► thing Jason yeah [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► yes thank you TV Steve Jobs I can't [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► yeah alright so faulty I used to be all [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► the show started to fall now shows [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► around in the spring around the summer i [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► believe behind the change their on a [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► crazy time but still there are many [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► shows the debut in the fall and I think [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► that this is always a good time to talk [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► about kind of a grab bag here in the [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► incomparable instead of diving deep on [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► One Show we cover a bunch of the stuff [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► that's on and and it's that's been on [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► and that with this caught our fans in [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► some way so i think we should start by [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► talking about if there was an [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► anticipated geeky TV show for the fall [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► it was the joss whedon co-created and [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► produced ABC's Marvel's agents of sdhc [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► ID'd LD agents of shield Thomas musical [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► when you say like that [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► yes it is it is give me an S might be [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► better as a musical couldn't be worse [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► I how I feel so I i'm a huge just Whedon [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► fan [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► and I i like so much of what he does and [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► and buffy the vampire slayer is my [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► favorite TV show of all time and I was [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► excited to see him get a major Network [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► show with real support from the network [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► in the studio and he's got the clout to [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► sort of do this after the after the [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► success of the Avengers and then we got [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► this show that is like it's just not [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► very interesting and it feels at times [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► like like I'm watching an episode of [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► like the a-team what happened you had [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► created that charm out the blowing up of [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► as much stuff and the cool van and they [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► don't build stuff and really the [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► interesting characters [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► yeah and and the comedy so what's what's [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► wrong what's wrong with agents i'll [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► start and then maybe we can go around [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► because I think we'll have a a lot of [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► them to choose from here [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► what's wrong with agents of shield i'll [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► start and say I think one of the [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► problems with agents of shield is that [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► they took clark gregg as Coulson who's [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► this character that everybody likes from [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► the movies and he's a secondary [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► character and he's the every man and man [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► the star of the show which I thought was [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► a great move because he's a very [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► likeable character and for whatever [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► reason whether it's because they've got [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► this sort of story arc or because [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► they're just afraid of making him to [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► human he's really boring he's like wise [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► and he always he always knows what's [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► going on he's got he's got a you know he [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► doesn't feel like a regular character to [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► me he feels like this kind of archetypes [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► been dropped down is like will Colson [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► always knows everything and he's always [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► going to end up on there on the right [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► side here and he's and they made a [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► boring and and so we left when without [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► him [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► were left with the rest of the cast and [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► those characters aren't very interesting [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► either and I was hoping that that [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► Coulson would be the thing that would [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► allow us to really get access to this [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► world and as much as I like the actor [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► and I like the character in the other [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► movies in the show he's just sort of [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► passive and and and you know and again [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► he makes these kind of wise [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► pronouncements and things like that but [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► he's never he never gets really gets [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► dirty you never feel like you know [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► this guy's a real you know more [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► well-defined character he's just kind of [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► there so that's one that's that's the [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► one thing that jumped out at me as i [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► think that the whole Coulson thing which [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► i thought was an asset is actually a [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► liability [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► what other people think Scott you you [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► renounce the show after about four [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► episodes i did because the the fifth [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► episode i think i don't know which [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► episodes with the one with the guy who [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► had he was a street magician magician [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► scorch yeah i stopped watching that like [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► fire guys like this I've hit my limits [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► of crappy TV you were gone I deleted it [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► from my my tivo season pass and it was [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► gone made episode mid episode even i [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► would say the first quarter of the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► episode of what I couldn't understand [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► watching this show was a white was so [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► bad would be it just under expert on how [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► to make a TV show look good but this TV [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► show just looked cheap to me I don't [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► know why he was lighting and something [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► about it just makes me I watched like [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► the black list that looks like a little [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► movie that they shot for TV and i watch [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► Marvel agents of shield and it looks [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► like a sitcom with boring characters and [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► somebody sets things on fire [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► it's surprisingly it feels surprisingly [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► cheap and I've heard lots of theories I [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► heard somebody say that they think it's [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► the way it's shot in the end the way it [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► Sal it is that it's this sort of like [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► sitcom me everything is really well-lit [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► when it could be more moody and I think [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► there's some truth to that that it that [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► it doesn't feel cinematic in any way it [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► feels really flat and and and bright and [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► you know II III think that's one reason [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► it does feel cheap it feels like they [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► got they went so far down the well we [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► can't do a superhero every week because [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► we don't have the budget and they ended [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► up with something that's just like like [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► I said the a-team it's like a no-budget [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► action show it will have to make it [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► super it doesn't take that much budget [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► to do a superhero every week I feel like [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► even there's plenty of shows that our [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► special effects heavy but don't have to [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► rely on the crutch of special-effects I [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► mean yeah that's like saying but he [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► didn't have enough budget to do a [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► monster every great like you there's [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► clever ways to get around that if you [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► here are willing RL into narrow you know [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► the psychological aspect of it rather [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► than just the you [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► look flashy special effects right and I [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► mean it's clearly a stylistic choice is [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► sooo but i don't know why they would [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► pick it because it just looks like crap [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► specially because a lot of people point [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► out there's you know there's like a [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► really deep bench in marvel that you hit [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► like all right you know hey there's all [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► these characters were never going to use [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► for anything [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► let's not use any of them yeah the the [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► big problem is that this the show just [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► does not have a reason to exist [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► corporate synergy is a reason that it's [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► exactly it's like you start on it's like [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► we it's like somebody's really really [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► like bad like American International [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► pictures from the sixties we can see [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► that the premise of the movie is some [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► guy knew another guy who could get them [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► access to the sets from this really [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► really expensive Egyptian movie and so [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► they said what can we do with like an [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► interior pyramid set a car and a [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► restaurant set and that's the movie they [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► made it's like I think this movie [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► started off because they have this [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► practice popular pop property the [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► avengers from the movie [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► let's find a way to take everything that [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► everybody already knows about that and [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► basically transplant that into a TV [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► series and will have the character that [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► people are familiar with and the basic [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► premise that people are familiar with [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► but no other reason for this thing to [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► exist and there are better decisions [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► that he could have made right i mean [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► I'll unless the studio very specifically [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► said we want this concept I sort of got [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► the had the assumption that Joss Whedon [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► was asked to deliver a TV series in this [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► world and he chose this [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► well they're on a plane and their agents [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► and all that but it's carpet women's [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► that's what it is [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► well and even there that I've seen [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► shield ish stories there was a marvel [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► comic and I wish I remember the name of [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► it but it was it was a it was a sort of [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► a SHIELD agent keen up team up but they [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► like fought you know giant monsters and [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► things like that it was a really fun [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► kind of thing or you take yes some other [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► group you do you know the Runaways or [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► you do set which Joss Whedon wrote some [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► issues of but instead there's the it's [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► this bizarre kind of like flavorless [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► premise inside this this universe and [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► then Marvel just recently announced the [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► deal with Netflix we're gonna make [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► daredevil and jessica jones and and Luke [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► Cage and Iron Fist mini series on [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► netflix and and I look at agents of [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► shield now and I think wow [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► no really why does this show exists in [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► this kind of flat boring format you [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► could even done it in a different way I [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► mean like you know looking at the [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► trailers like the upcoming captain [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► america would be like there's like you [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► could do the intrigue angle like I think [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► to a certain extent they try to do too [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► much like hey we can do superheroes and [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► spy stuff yeah all this and it's like [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► you know what you need to pick an idea [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► and go with that right and then the [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► other and the other thing is also the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► one the other thing that really annoys [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► me about it was that it presumes that [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► well of course this person has seen [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► every single Marvel movie and they've [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► read all the comic books we don't have [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► to give them a self-contained [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► entertainment unit because if they're if [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► they don't know what extremists [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► technology is or if they don't know who [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► that dude is that's just an excuse to go [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► and spend twenty dollars to buy this DVD [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► or blu-ray that's it will win [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► I don't know I i think that i think [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► actually that they're not leaving if [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► you're going to leave me and lean all [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► the way the fact that you say well this [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► is extremists like well okay and if you [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► don't get it i is a great sapphire guys [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► a lame guy with fire in his hand [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► it doesn't really matter that that's [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► tied in iron man 3 and and yeah the the [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► one thing I i look at this you know this [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► is marvel but it's ABC and it's disney [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► and solve for the same company right [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► I i I'm interested by the fact that [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► agents of shield is I think other than [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► Doctor Who the only hour-long show on TV [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► right now drama series that i actually [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► feel like I could watch with the entire [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► family [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► it feels like it's the seven o'clock on [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► sunday wonderful world of Disney almost [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► kind of level where the violence like [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► the a-team actually the violence isn't [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► too violent and every not really scary [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► nobody gets really hurt and in some ways [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► I think it's kind of interesting that [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► that that if you view it that way it's [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► like their attempt to make a family show [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► the problem is is that it's not that [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► interesting that the end if they got [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► renewed for the whole year there's all [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► this corporate synergy maybe they can [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► find a way [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► my hope is that the producers realized [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► it's not working and they've got a year [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► to sort of got till the end of the year [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► to figure something out here because as [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► it is it's just a bore [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► I mean that's the thing that's most [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► offensive to me about is that not that [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► it's i don't i don't know if i would say [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► that it's bad i would say that it's just [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► boring it's like there's nothing [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► interesting in it at all [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► it's a waste of potential for the first [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► episode we [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► watched it and my older son is sitting [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► there and he's 11 he still hasn't seen [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► iron man 3 and they get to the whole [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► extremists thing and he immediately goes [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► that's cheating because i haven't seen [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► the movie and I need to know that what [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► the hell [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► so they already pissed him off in the [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► pilot and then the second episode is [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► basically a bottle episode there on the [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► plane for almost the whole thing that's [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► like you you're doing a bottle episode [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► is your second episode [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► wow yeah the first one didn't look that [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► expensive either it was not one of the [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► items like lost or something where they [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► pay they I I thought that pilot was like [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► let's show you what the show will look [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► like when we do it on a week-to-week [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► budget and then yes episode 2 was like [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► cheaper and you know some-some watching [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► it and and I get to the one I think was [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► called I spy and it's it actually you [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► know that the teaser started out kind of [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► interesting and you've got all these you [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► know this what this metro station in [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► stockholm and all games figures in red [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► masks with briefcases and they're all [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► walking and no one's really paying [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► attention to them in your watching this [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► going [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► wow this is really interesting what's [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► gonna happen and then you immediately [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► have all of the people in red masks [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► massacred by this one person and then [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► the story goes off in a totally [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► different direction and it never [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► addresses the fact that they're all in [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► these red masks and they're all during [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► this thing and it's like you took the [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► most interesting most visually exciting [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► thing you've done and you got rid of it [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► in the first four minutes and then you [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► went off and told this really stupid [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► story [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► what is wrong with you people I'm glad [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► you mentioned that episode because that [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► was that episode is the best example but [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► there are lots of them were one of the [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► problems I have with agents of shield [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► it's meant to be this globe-trotting [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► kind of like group of people who are [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► members of a secret organization and [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► they have to solve these things I've [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► seen the show I saw it a decade ago and [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► alias from 10 years ago did agents of [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► shield double as well as agents of [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► shield for two seasons [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► well okay three two maybe three but but [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► actually i would say Dan 10 [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► alias its entire run did better than HR [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► sealed okay yeah take that [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► yeah I'll go with that that's a [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► below-the-belt there was there they had [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► they had their you know green-screen [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► fake you know yes we're in Stockholm now [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► it's the only true did very well no I [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► mean I feel like there are there are a [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► couple shows that i've seen that one [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► comes to mind and the USA Network covert [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► affairs which is also a spy show does a [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► good job of like you know what I [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► actually believe that you are like you [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► know in this city [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► it doesn't matter like you know it's you [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► whatever you've done for your production [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► you know job there [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► it's enough to suspend my disbelief [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► right so with alias it really worked for [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► me and I was like yeah everybody's happy [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► had you know characters and it had some [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► some sort of dynamism was never boring [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► even when it was just like I mean it [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► when in doubt Jennifer Garner's got a [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► lot of charisma you put her in a in a [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► weird outfit and a strange way again [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► she's walking through some Eurotrash [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► cocktail party somewhere and there's a [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► bomb somewhere and it moved and they [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► have the crazy music and and then [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► there's agents of shield which is just [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► like eight a flat pale replica I mean [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► it's been done ABC has done it better [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► than this [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► they need to put Agent Coulson and crazy [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► dress and Senator company and i would [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► pay for that [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► well they got to do that episode by the [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► end of the year that he's trying to get [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► out of field by point of section 8 like [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► going out exactly four clear after I [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► want to get out of this show it's too [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► late [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► agents of mash what's like people keep [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► saying no Joss Whedon you know shows [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► shows the first season is kind of rocky [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► yeah you know know that time and you [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► know what maybe Buffy was rock no it [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► wasn't it wasn't it was little great it [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► was exactly was legit and grand you know [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► angel was fun [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► yeah and and I reply was the only had [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► one season and it was good from they [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► basically dollhouse had a bad season [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► right look [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► yeah another bad just this isn't just [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► we'd know right i mean it is Joss Whedon [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► wrote a pilot and his put his brother [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and sister-in-law in charge of our [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► writers room and it's got some good [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► people including people who worked on [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► angel but it's not you know he's I gotta [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► he apparently was like rewriting parts [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► of Thor and he's you know prepping [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► Avengers 2 and he's not it's not here [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► show he was he was consulting on Captain [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► America 2 and I think that's the issue [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► is like I think he puts potentially has [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► like a lot of passion for that idea but [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► then he's like all right I got this [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► great idea i love it uh well I'm Way too [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► busy to do it though and hands it off [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► and i think the you know that he handed [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► off to people they trust but I think [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► also people who maybe don't have the [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► same level of enthusiasm for this [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► particular idea that he did it that's [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► what it kind of feels to me like it [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► falls flat when they on the execution it [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► feels like what he does is he has the [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► salt shaker full of joss whedon's magic [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► pixie dust and it feels I'll see I've [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► just sprinkle the just waitin magic [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► pixie dust over the script now just [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► don't ruin it [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► here you go you're welcome where's that [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► check you can see the lines in the pilot [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► that are the you know ironic humorous in [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► and kind of enjoyable like Coulson's got [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► his whole thing from the shadows he's [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► like think there's a bulb out over there [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► you know that was funny and all but [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► there's nothing to there's nothing [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► around and honestly you know the irony [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► and and the dialogue while enjoyable and [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► joss whedon's things is not the thing [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► that makes them good that that annoyed [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► right I gotta say that it would be [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► that's-that's-that's self-aware anything [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► I'm way cooler [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► I the screenwriter and way cooler in the [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► script I'm writing but here's the here's [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► the thing in Buffy you can get away with [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► that because the fact is the characters [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► were practicing an ironic remove from [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► what was going on but the characters [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► were there and the situation was there [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► to support it and in this we've got is a [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► scaffolding for corporate synergy and [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► insert witty dialogue here and insert [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► you know beefcake character over here we [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► call them Kendall ok I feel like we've [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► beaten the beaten this agent handsome i [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► think is what we call him David I think [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► we've beaten this one to death [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► suffice it to say agents of shield we [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► don't like it alright let's step away [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► from the boob tube for just a minute to [TS]

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00:21:33 ◼   ► let's move on I wanted to bring up show [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► that I i was aware was on the air when [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► it came on the air called Sleepy Hollow [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► and it turned out to be a hit in the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► ratings and because a lot of people for [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► some reason inexplicably found [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► themselves tuning into sleepy hollow on [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► the day that it premiered I was one of [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► those people and i gotta say at the [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► Sleepy Hollow is ridiculous [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► it's insane and i have watched [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► episode and I like it a lot I concur [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► yeah hello Scott we're together on this [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► one it's true it's this is like national [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► treasure the TV series it is and it is i [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► think this is better than national [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► treasure I'm sorry but it's actually [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► good but it's actually well i think it [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► in the sense that it's like George [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► Washington knew there was a secret [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► conspiracy to end the world and that was [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► the secret untold tales of the American [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► Revolution and now a chabad cranes been [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► sent to the present day fight the Four [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► Horsemen of the Apocalypse one of whom [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► is the Headless Horseman of course of [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► course it makes so much sense [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► it'sit's national treasure accept it [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► realizes how insane it is sure no one's [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► got the whole little more supernaturally [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► stuff going on [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► yeah yeah but there's always that it's [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► that sort of level of in ridiculousness [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► that you're like all right just go with [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► it right it's crazy [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► of course itself but it buys in and [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► that's that's what in some ways that's [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► what you know agents of shield is [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► missing like it feels like the people [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► who are this especially I think the guy [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► what's-his-name Tom Mison is that [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► missing [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► I don't know you're probably around yeah [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► the guy who plays jacob eye cream you [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► keep pretty much I think he throws [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► himself into that [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► yeah really greatly well yeah he's great [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► everything about both the leads on this [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► on the show are very enjoyable i like [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► their report together [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► I like those two characters i think that [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► you know casting goes a long way I [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► haven't casting a couple of really [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► winning actors in your lead roles can [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► can pat spackle over a lot of [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► difficulties especially at the beginning [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► of a series and sleepy Hollow's got the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► casting then they did some weird casting [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► decisions in the like John show hope [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► ears and then comes back I was like if [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► we could get him again like Clancy Brown [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► who is playing right basically shows up [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► and all like flash bad he's yeah he's [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► killed and then they're like but we [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► could bring back in flashbacks but the [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► two main characters are real are really [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► enjoyable and I like this kind of crazy [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► mythos they've got about the end of the [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► world and and it's it's toggling between [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► the x-files kind of like here's a weird [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► thing that's happening in this town [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► because it's on a Hellmouth essentially [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► and and then the story arc parts of it [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► and they go back and forth and it's an [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► end and they've gotta like a layer [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► that's in a like boarded up old part of [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► police station that's from the seven [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► which is ridiculous but varies i have to [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► say it would be really funny and like [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► you know after the show runs like seven [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► seasons and is like a huge it or [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► something you have to tell people that [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► Orlando Jones started his career as a [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► you know its spokesperson for 7up [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► basically know what he was best known [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► for its like I mean poor guy you know [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► how terrible you know career choices i [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► think in between then and now he's come [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► back as a straight man which is very odd [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► those of us who remember him from [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► earlier rolls it's very strange to see [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► it is a very always liked the chief he's [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► like keep me informed [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► I am amused that they his name is Irving [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► well of course is the yeah the writer of [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► Omega by crane although that apparently [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► doesn't exist in this universe [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► no because that Ichabod Crane is a [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► totally different character than this [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► guy who's a revolutionary you know [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► soldier for it fighting against the [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► British and then he gets thrown forward [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► in time and it sounds just as crazy as [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► we're making it out to be it is it is [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► for fun though [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► yeah there's which is a 10-day got the [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► salem witch trial in there there's an [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► episode where they tossed in a row knows [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► throw everything in and that the [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► disappeared Colony of Roanoke and [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► explained that it all makes sense now I [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► was I was on board when i watch the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► pilot and they took care of the whole [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► you know you know everyone knows the [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► Headless Horseman story so they did that [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► in the first two minutes [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► yes and then they changed it and then it [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► was that was it nevermind it's not that [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► at all [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► okay in that there's a nice joke where [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► they where the the sort of the horseman [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► or whatever cut off the top of a sign [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► and it's a sign of a guy you know a [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► little stick figure guy so that helo the [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► sign has lost its head and she let them [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► hang in the captains office they do in [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► about 30 seconds later yeah yeah it's [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► good it's it is mode it's a fun show [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► it's silly and fun and and the [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► characters are nice and the actors good [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► and and i'm looking forward to where to [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► where it goes [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► it's a yeah it's our i was surprised at [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► how much I enjoyed it really surprised [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► its kind of wonderful to that it's it's [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► a really diverse cast except at no point [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► in going hey look we have a really [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► diverse cast its it's just the server [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► matter-of-fact hey look this is the real [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► world [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► yeah other than other than that they do [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► that mom [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► and with Ichabod Crane and abby i think [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► is the name of the the woman who's the [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► in the Sheriff's Office is the other [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► lead and there's a moment just like [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► there was when docked in Doctor Who when [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► the Martha went to Shakespeare's time [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► and there's that moment of life you know [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► not exactly white if there's a [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► difference is this could be an issue and [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► he has that moment cuz he's like you [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► know he's obviously from revolutionary [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► times and and there's that there's a [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► moment of like there were slaves and [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► that was I didn't like that sort of [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► thing and all that but other than that [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► it's kind of yeah it's not relevant you [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► had to do it like i like it had to be [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► ignorant because otherwise it would you [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► you know it would strike as folks i [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► think but yeah and they got it out of [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► the way they're like they're not like [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► dwelling outright it's not like [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► everybody was about that and they're [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► they're embracing the show and braces [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► its own ridiculousness so yes I have no [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► problem with the like all of the clearly [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► ridiculous things that you and it makes [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the parts where they kind of acknowledge [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► the fact that Ichabod Crane is out you [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► know outside of his time even more [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► amusing to me like when he was there [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► there's the scene where he was running [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► in like a tunnel and he got a gun and [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► shot at once oh yeah and then he threw [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► it away [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► yeah and she was like why did you throw [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► your cut away he said what I shot it she [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► said you can't shoot more than once news [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► like really and I thought that was like [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► that followed up when she was trying to [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► explain that gun to him he's like i [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► dunno how the gun works many yeah III [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► fires and tosses it away [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► why I like that in a ride I've been [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► catching up so I'm a couple episodes [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► behind but like there's an episode i [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► just watched where they're fighting off [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► the Hessian the heavens i like i love [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► that they work the heavens into this but [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► like she gives him a gun again and he [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► liked stands out there with like one [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► hand behind his back like he's doing [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► like the dueling is nothing it's just a [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► little thing but I was like that's a [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► whole area because like he's not going [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► to use whatever you know he's not going [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► to shoot a gun like a trained police [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► officer with you to go and he's still [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► wearing his his crazy old timey close [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► and that their graduates gradually [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► becoming more of an issue where she's [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► like you're gonna wear those clothes all [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► the time because they look cool they [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► want to keep him in those clothes but [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► why does he not wear the clothes so yeah [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► he's a hipster yeah clearly [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► yeah you know actually jason with this [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► the show reminds me most of is a super [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► bitch [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► Oh supernet it's true it's true I knew [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► that was coming [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► I'm just saying that there's a lot of [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► the lot i watched the episodes watch [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► with the husband's also has the way they [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► try to summon the demons or something in [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► the church and its got like that weird [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► crazy baptismal font with all the demons [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► crawling out of it which was cool [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► special effect but yeah it's nice it's a [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► it's a [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► yeah interesting show and I grew up very [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► near tarrytown which is actually sleepy [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► hollow and rename itself sleepy hollow [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► several years back so in order to tie in [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► with this show which they knew was [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► coming [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► exactly i'm pretty sure they do not [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► shoot in the actual symbiote know it's [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► yeah it's North Carolina they have that [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► fringe thing where it's like oh [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► something happened in you know Virginia [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► that two seconds later to hear ya [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► Matt well you know match I know it's a [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► TV show but it's like you don't know [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► what it takes a little while to get [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► there I want to see people driving out [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► to say goodbye train on a plane crane on [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► a plane back to this mother bleep [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► incorrect him you know [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► alright so what else what else do we [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► have what else what else to talk about [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► you mentioned so someone just met with [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► Scott you mentioned fringe because then [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► the black list also kind of reminds me [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► of fridge and alias sometimes too [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► yes is that there's a show with many [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► many parents James Spader's the black [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► list because it is his show it's clearly [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► designed around him he is he is a red [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► Reddington the like world's most famous [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► villain or something and he like walks [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► into the FBI and says that he'll only [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► talk to this one agent and so they it's [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► her first day so they get her and bring [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► her over and no she doesn't know him and [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► nobody knows why they're connected and [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► so there's your story arc and then he [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► says I will bring you criminals you know [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► from your most wanted list who I don't [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► like and i will i will say it's i'm not [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► sure the premise really make sense but [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► hold even a little bit of water because [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► i like is in the second episode he's [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► like in the Bahamas or something like [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► wait wait [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► they let him go in the first episode [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► easily in like a Hannibal Lecter kind [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► contraption I guess they gotta let him [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► go because otherwise have its wingspan [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► her in a box for like yeah I would watch [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► that that's a game show James Spader in [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► a box [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► he's gotta keep active or else right or [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► else like criminals will know he's a [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► traitor in the in the first episode he [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► said if you don't let me go I will not [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► give you all this right delicious [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► information right so he's like there's a [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► long game and there's a and there's that [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► story arc but week-to-week he is he's [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► like here's somebody you can take down [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► and then there are episodes that are [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► more kind of like action e the one that [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► I just watched uh the other day was like [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► it was like an episode of alias it was [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► like there you know let's swap this [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► thing in and there's a camera here and [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► we'll and there's a party that we're [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► coming it was very very alias like that [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► and then also have like the guy who [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► buried somebody alive and there's the [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► particular rock and all that business so [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► there's so many different things that [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► they tried but you know James Spader is [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► really interesting the the the female [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► lead is good although they've done some [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► interesting things with her in the pilot [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► she's but she's played much younger and [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► they make her like she's mean she's [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► essentially Clarice Starling she's like [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► it's right it's my first day on the job [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► and I'm completely innocent and in the [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► second episode suddenly she's dressed [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► like a like a much like a [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► thirty-year-old and now it's explained [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► that it was her first day on that job [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► but she's had many other jobs and it's [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► been doing this for a while now and they [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► like I Dobbs yeah try to back it off a [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► little bit but i enjoy the show you know [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► James Spader goes a long way to make it [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► palatable but its body but i think it's [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► a good show i think they do a I liked [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► the bit that they sort of introduced at [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► the end of the first episode with her [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► husband with you know is he [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► he says he is is he part of this unite [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► plot in some way and even though they [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► have quote-unquote resolved it like they [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► still have left just enough wiggle room [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► area like let James Spader sort of not [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► sure about it every once in awhile it is [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► really hard to watch them be like I [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► can't [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► wow I cannot trust him like even if [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► they've sort of absolved him like I feel [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► like is [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► I don't know you can he reminds me of [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► aliens because i remember how in the in [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► the pilot of alien she's got a boyfriend [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► and he's murdered by the by by the sd-6 [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► and and then she joins you know and then [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► she joins up and I i thought you know [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► this guy isn't murdered but he's [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► immediately called into question about [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► whether he's a trustworthy husband or [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► not because they're the you know the [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► weird passports and things like that and [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► is was he you know is he a double agent [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► or a single agent the sleeper agent we [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► have and we just we just don't know but [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► it's very an agent of shield know dad's [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► now that's a different kind of sleeper [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► agents going to gradually just a sleepy [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► agent yeah he's Hydra I think I enjoy it [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► most because james spader is just kind [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► of not going on any piece of scenery [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► that he can get in this character which [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► I find very amusing doesn't go a little [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► bit will go a long way [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► it's aight i think that this is probably [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► the third james spader rolling movement [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► that I've seen that that really just [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► made me think I wish you'd go back into [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► comedy I wish that's not know about [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► Betty it's like it's like it's like he [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► saw it's like he saw Christopher [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► Walken's like how how how playing that I [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► want to just be really really funny [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► creepy [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► I'm gonna develop that persona and I'm [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► gonna ride that into 10 years with those [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► SML appearances and like background [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► characters and major movies [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► well I think they use some I mean I [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► think when this show is crafted for him [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► it's actually crafted for him in the way [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► where he's not always at the center it [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► too i think that's actually very clever [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► on the producers part that he's always [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► in it but right he's not just like a [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► little dab of Spader they don't drag [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► them along to all of these things right [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► like that they have the other characters [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► this hair again there there's harry [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► lennix doing the keep me informed Chris [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► skeptical chief and and then there's you [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► know Johnny square jaw agent and then [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► there's our our female lead who does [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► know why she's involved in this Johnny [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► square jaw agent Ethan incidentally is [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► was on homeland for the first two [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► seasons ah she was they gave him a [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► blonde hit like I don't know if that's [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► his natural hair color not but it's so [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► jarring to see him because he's really [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► really dark hair on Homeland he's got [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► this like almost golden blonde air [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► dreamy I guess what I'm saying is a [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► it is i get your I get your point is [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► that a little spider goes a long way but [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► I feel like he's modulated like I i get [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► enough of him that I enjoy it without it [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► being like if he was in every scene i [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► would wanna just throw something at the [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► TV but instead he comes in he's like oh [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► did that not work out for you well I've [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► got a new plan for you and then and then [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► he goes away again and i kinda it's like [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► I feel like they're deploying him really [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► well because it could be he could be [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► overused and I don't I and the blacklist [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► feel like they're using him just enough [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► and then yes [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► not more than that the central question [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► for me though I have I haven't watched [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► this movement of the show when the [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► reasons the company ways that anytime I [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► get the sense that they're just going to [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► tease us and tease us and tease us to [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► this about the central question without [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► ever making forward progress on it does [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► it sound as though we're gonna find out [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► what this really is all about origami [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► season 6 and they're going to realize [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► that oh it turns out that he thought [TS]

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00:36:13 ◼   ► think there's some forward motion i [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► would I i would imagine that these of [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► season one are yeah I imagine the [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► question of why he chose her as a season [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► 1 arc and then they would continue with [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► other you know complications after that [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► but I'm kind of watching because I just [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► want to be assured that it's not the [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► obvious answer right I think we all went [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► in kind of assuming like he must be her [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► dad or something right there dad is also [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► mentioned as mysteriously disappearing [TS]

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00:36:43 ◼   ► her dad right and there's clearly [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► something in some of the more reason [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► episodes they've hinted like he had some [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► you know clearly he has some motivation [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► for having this change of heart so you [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► know there's there is an interesting [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► question why did he decide to do this [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► but yeah it is it is I I kind of feel [TS]

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00:40:15 ◼   ► that after a couple of episodes of [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► shield by both of my children went can [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► we watch Brooklyn nine-nine and said and [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► we do the Brooklyn I great sitcom from [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► mike sure the the showrunner for parks [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► and recreation and it's a it's andy [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► samberg is the is the star and Andre [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► Braugher wonderful wonderful Andre [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► Braugher is here is the gruff but [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► lovable keep me informed police captain [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► in Brooklyn nine-nine I just enjoy that [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► nobody can read him with the whole like [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► the they have all these great stories [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► like they can't tell if he's happy or [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► upset with them because he's like the [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► same tone all the time he's just dead [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► under our for being a wonderful dramatic [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► actor he is whole areas in brookline he [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► was hilarious and homicide but that's [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► true though I have to say you you left [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► out the the to my mind the funniest [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► character in the show was Terry Crews [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► Carol sergeant he is my absolute [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► absolute favorite on that entire show [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► he's got that man has comedic timing [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► like nobody's business [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► one night Brooklyn nine-nine aired and [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► there was a tweet from muddy Ashley who [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► couldn't be with us tonight and and the [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► tweet was Terry Crews funny person [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► yep yep that's that's it [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► yeah a good cast a really interesting [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► group of characters obviously you know [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► they're trying to put the sitcom [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► ensemble together but I I felt like even [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► in the first episode I thought the first [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► episode was a winner it's very rare that [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► I've let I've laughed that much of the [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► pilot episode of the of a comedy [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► and it's got that it's good it's got [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► that old i mean ii Andy Samberg is [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► because he's basically playing a a an [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► adolescent who's now police detective [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► but he has the behavior of an adolescent [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► that adds maybe a little more modern [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► touch but otherwise I mean this is [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► basically a reconstituted Barney Miller [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► and I love that about it that it's got [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► it right down opening credits it's got [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► that old school cop kind of feel and the [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► characters are a rich collection of [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► characters in this in this precinct I i [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► think that they did that the one thing [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► that's nice that it has improved as I've [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► continued to watch it is that they world [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► it was a little risky in the beginning I [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► think they were starting to fall into [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► the problem that parks and rec and the [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► first season or some of it felt like the [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► characters didn't like each other enough [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► right but in the more recent episodes [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► they've done a better job of showing [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► that even at the time that these [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► characters are know each other that they [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► are actually friends and I think that [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► goes a long way to not ending up with [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► sort of just a very alienated feeling [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► like I've got all these people are also [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► idiosyncratic and annoying but they [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► actually you know there's got to be a [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► little bit of heart in there or else it [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► just it just drives you away i think [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► oh yeah and that the character who is [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► the equivalent I to anton what's her [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► name [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► I Aubrey Plaza on the on parks and rec [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► mom the the equivalent in this show [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► she's a she's mysterious but it you get [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► the sense that she doesn't she's she's [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► got a very strange way of approaching [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► the people but you don't get the sense [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► that she's antagonistic toward them [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► she's just a very strange private weird [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► kind of person but but not in a write it [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► but not in the way of like oh she [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► secretly hates the mall just like no no [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► she's called a colleague she behaves [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► normally with them you know a in some [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► ways and then in other ways not normal [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► at all but the right it doesn't it it [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► because in the pilot was like whoa is [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► she is there something wrong with her [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► and it's like well yes but she's not [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► mean she's just very strange [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► I i love the fact that I mean they've [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► said that Bernie Miller is a huge [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► influence obviously but also the wire [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► and homicide our big influences because [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► we even before they cast andy samberg [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► they described it as this is about the [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► comedy version of Jimmy or Jimmy's LT [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► out from [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► wire and i love the fact that you have [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► comedy McNulty facing off against comedy [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► Pembleton yeah from homicide I mean [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► that's just beautiful and the fact that [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► everything else is sort of crystallizing [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► around it is wonderful i just love to [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► see that and I mean I'm a huge parks and [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► rec fan anyway yes partly because I [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► essentially live in Pawnee Indiana map [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► it's getting on candy I've been there [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► um yes you do but yeah it's it's really [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► interesting to see this taking shape and [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► sort of crystallizing a lot quicker in [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► some ways than parks and rec today [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► because it really maybe they learned [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► there was until the second season yeah [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► you know I think they learned their [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► lesson about about the balance that they [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► were trying to to serve here also i [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► should say anybody who who says well [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► this is that said come with andy samberg [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► as the lead now forget it's like hey [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► that sample I i think well here's the [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► thing is i think it is super exactly [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► greatness and I I'm not like somebody [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► who is particularly enamored with the [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► the collected works of andy samberg but [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► i think that because he's got these [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► other characters in here did though his [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► playing off of Andre Braugher is so [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► perfect because it's the by-the-book [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► police detective will also air police [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► sergeant he also wants to get as the [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► captain he wants to get get his goat so [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► there's that and that there's some nice [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► conflict there is it's enjoyable so yeah [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► even if if you were turned off by the [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► idea that this is some sort of post [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► Saturday Night Live andy samberg vehicle [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► it's um it's better than that and I mean [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► it's got this parks rec seal of approval [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► to ya if you if you move for me selling [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► some of the show to show the scene where [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► Terry Crews tries to assemble his [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► daughter's doll house that we thought [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► that was my favorite see I'm a grown man [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► with grown man hands by can put together [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► there's an episode i think last week [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► maybe where Terry Crews um can't go to [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► sleep [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► yeah and he's increasingly strange over [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► the course of the episode and that some [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► have even at the very end Andre Braugher [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► lips and black lady look lay down on his [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► couch i'll just turn off the light and [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► he's immediately asleep but after the [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► entire episode sped away [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► yeah they have that great bit in there [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► two words like my brother-in-law's [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► visiting and he thinks you know like he [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► thinks I'm a small guy you know and you [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► eat the one moment I think you see andre [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► braugher sort of break it like what [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► yeah because Terry Crews is normally a [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► linebacker right leg is huge but we [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► should [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► Andy I know you mentioned you want to [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► mention parks and rec why this might be [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► a good moment parks and recreation is [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► back for another season on NBC and it's [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► a it's a show everybody should watch [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► because it's great [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► yeah and it really did point out an [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► ongoing failing of mine and catching new [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► shows i I am so quick to judge a new [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► show based on the premise that there [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► before before it actually begins and [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► Parks and Rec it really did look like [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► another win not just another office like [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► fake documentary but fake documentary [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► that never ever explains why there is a [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► documentary crew that's that's that's in [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► every single corner of these people's [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► lives 24-7 and so that made me think [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► that ok well the problem and also the [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► jokes the program very good [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► it's gotta be sorry in there and every [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► time I'd seen him to do stand-up I [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► didn't like the character was doing [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► there and it wasn't really until three [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► truly like 3-4 weeks ago that I did this [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► thing that so many people do it i [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► started this sort of like both watching [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► on netflix having heard that they didn't [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► really figure out the show until season [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► 2i skip season one entirely gonna start [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► with season 2 episode 1 and then before [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► I knew it it's like okay well I need to [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► get back to work have now in the middle [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► of seas season three [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► damn it ok i'll be up until 4am but [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► still it was a good show and now i'm i'm [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► almost died i stay sort of skipped ahead [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► to season 6 and I've got like maybe one [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► more season ago but man i love this show [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► its it really just turned me into an [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► instant fan of it because I just a I [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► feel stupid for not having watched it i [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► love the fact that they can put in these [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► tiny tiny little lines that add little [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► bit of texture and looks a little bit of [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► information about the relationship [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► between all of these characters because [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► one of the things I don't like about [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► about so many sitcoms is that I think [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► that eventually most sitcoms devolved [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► into just like a singer transaction [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► mechanism between the characters [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► machine yeah it's like everything was [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► like yeah why are these four people [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► together and call themselves friends all [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► they do is like meet up for two hours [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► and insult each other and just like [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► laughing because I yeah you broke your [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► foot [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► mr. gimpy limping guy with a broken foot [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► okay what are you gonna pay for medical [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► care without a job that's how we express [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► low like I I'm afraid to let down my [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► walls and show genuine emotion and yet [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► there's obvious that there's this one [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► specific line that it's just a throwaway [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► line the writers did not have to put it [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► in there where level one of our lesson [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► notes that staff members has to ask the [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► police for the the the fall harvest [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► festival where they're asking the the [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► someone has to go to the policeman hey [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► can you like get some volunteers [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► volunteer police officers to run [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► security for us and they think this [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► person thinks it's going to be a big [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► negotiation but the chief of police [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► simply says leslie knope it always gets [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► whatever favorite she asked for because [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► she never asks for you always ask for [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► favors for other people and then they [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► move on to like whatever dialogue they [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► need to get into for whatever next plot [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► point is such a simple line that [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► indicates gives an extra layer of [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► texture to who this character Leslie [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► Knope is why people are ten ten to want [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► her to do things for what why that why [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► they like her why they stick around her [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► and again it was a disposable line for [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► the writers thought it was important and [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► the entire series is full of that and so [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► that's why I was such a great start love [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it you get these you get these [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► characters who don't seem like they [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► should get along like Ron and leslie and [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► it's again and he's totally right like [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► they do this this brilliant job of [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► coloring in the details are not just [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► caricatures right they actually are [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► people and to me the beginning of this [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► particular season has I think what is my [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► one of my favorite episode or season [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► openings ever in a TV show which has to [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► do with Ron getting married [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► yes which is just Isis is brilliantly [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► shot and it really just shows you the [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► whole like the relationship between [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► these two characters Leslie sort of like [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► you know like running around flustered [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► like but this is my friend is getting [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► married I need to do something but like [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► Ron being who he is is just like now I'm [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► just gonna do this my own way very very [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► straightforward we're gonna go to just [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► peace get there do you [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► reception will be held privately in your [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► individual homes [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► goodbye there are a lot of sitcoms where [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► the bulk of the comedy is coming from [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► character and it and you know it's not [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► going to give you that bang bang [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► I you know joke a joke every 20 seconds [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► kind of pace and if they may not even [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► give you the belly laughs that you might [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► get on something that is just hitting [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► you with those one-liners one after [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► another but you know parks and rec has [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► that you know it's a cut that's comedy [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► coming from a different place because [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► you know who these people are and you [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► know how they interact with each other [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► and yeah there are wacky wacky jokes are [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► plenty in this too but it doesn't it [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► doesn't rely on that same kind of rhythm [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► because it knows it's got these [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► characters and this setting and it can [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► use those to make you smile and make you [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► laugh in a a different way than a few [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► quick singer of a joke can there they're [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► not afraid to go to the emotional heart [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► and they don't over press that button [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► either they're not going for that moment [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► where a live audience would go [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► ah they just wanted they just want the [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► the last episode of season 5 or I'm [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► sorry whatever episode with the second [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► part of the two-parter Leslie go Leslie [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► goes to London and gives gives gives [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► around the red wedding gifts they just [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► follow these instructions read some [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► tickets and you'll be very pleased to [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► the very end of it and because ron has [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► this relationship with her and he [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► doesn't want to travel but he does it [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► anyway and the fact that it basically [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► leads him to the perfect spot to enjoy [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► European and give them this one line [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► where he has the annoying but [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► probability to care about people and [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► take and make you make you better [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► anyway it was it was again yeah [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► unnecessary unimportant but they weren't [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► afraid to be have cynical people accuse [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► them of being overly sentimental that so [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► that's that takes guts in a sitcom [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► oh yeah not to mention a show that [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► actually let Rob Lowe do something [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► successfully for the first time not like [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► you care [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► he's funny and he's funny as hell [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► because he's allowed to be a pretty boy [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► have a pretty boy fancy lad [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► well and and uh Adam Scott you know uh [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► oh absolutely great and you know well in [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► party down [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► and is great in this and and I think [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► puts the the whole fact that they that [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► he comes in and and and they fall in [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► love and get married and you've got your [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► main character getting married and you [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► know what it say there's plenty of [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► comedy in them falling in love there's [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► plenty of comedy and them getting [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► married and there's plenty of comedy and [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► being married and it you know series [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► that avoid those kinds of places in [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► somebody's life because they're afraid [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► that if they if they change their gonna [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► ruin things I this is another great [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► example but they do that with with [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► everybody I mean like that the another [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► episode that gets me for that is they go [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► they take an episode where you where [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► Andy and April are going to get married [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► yes and they started with the episode [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► thinking oh my god this is such an awful [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► idea but just because these two [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► characters are so you know terrible in [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► different ways and immature and that can [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► think and they totally win you over the [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► course of that episode to show you that [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► the yeah okay these guys are immature in [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► a little bit bizarre but they're also [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► you know in love and clearly you know [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► make a great pair and they've done a [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► great job with those two characters too [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► i really i love those can I love Chris [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► Pratt I think he's i think is a yes I [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► think he's a star basically and I think [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► he is going to get to the point i think [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► you got a couple starring roles coming [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► up the axe here and i think he is he [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► could be an a-lister like he's just he's [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► great he's fantastic you read about the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► formation of the show and you feel you [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► you really see the payoff of all these [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► actors they cast because we don't know [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► the the producers are some of the [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► writers are saying we don't know what [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► we're going to do with this character [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► yet but we really really like this actor [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► we figure if we just both have a walking [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► through some scenes we'll figure out [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► what to do with them later and I think [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► that that's exactly it [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► well let me tell you Andy Chris Pratt is [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► uh i would argue now you could say that [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► that that the character of Leslie Leslie [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► Knope is is not served well in the first [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► six episodes that you didn't watch [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► because Apple wisely [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► I mean and because she seems annoying [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► and that's actually what I think a huge [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► problem with it but as a sidenote Chris [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► Pratt in the first six episodes i have [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► not hated a character and more than [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► chris pratt and those absence [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► he's awful he is because he is and my [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► friend and he's an ear [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► he's a loser [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► sir he's dragging her down he's going to [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► live in the bottom of the of the pit and [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► he's he's just he's a failure who's [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► ruining it for somebody a character that [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► we're supposed to like and the fact that [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► they turned him around not just the show [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► but that character and redeemed him is [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► shocking to me because he was really not [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► well served in that first season one day [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► they you know that it's hard to even [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► think about that now considering how [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► wonderful and unlovable that character [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► is oh yeah i'll just assume like the [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► first season isn't the American versions [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► like the the Austrian license the engine [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► with a recast it i think the writers [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► didn't really understand the characters [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► the north korean version really i think [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► i think we can all agree that Jerry is [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► the worst though right now Gerald Hodges [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► chick Gary it's gonna fit Jerry that's [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► the only character trip over because [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► it's aight i guess that supposed to be [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► sort of an affectionate sort of blaming [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► everything on Jerry that there's so many [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► times for a single man it's actually [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► really it's like the Jerry should leave [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► at this point if if you weren't like two [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► years away from retirement hit it feels [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► like why they're being so maybe it does [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► retire then he comes back Jerry with his [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► beautiful wife and his beautiful [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► children [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► I love that that's the whole areas for [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► ya christie brinkley seriously yeah yeah [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► Jerry's Jerry's the one who's laughing [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► who's laughing now it's generally these [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► name is not agree it's gary it's never [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► corrected anybody all right with your we [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► rapidly running out of time so if people [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► would like to mention other shows let's [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► let's other new shows that have caught [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► your attention for good or for ill this [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► would be a good time to mention them [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► well I i gave a try to all the new [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► thursday night comedies both on CBS and [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► NBC and right now they're still you know [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► they're still kind of like this shape [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► and lumps of dough that are still baking [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► but so far i'm sticking with the crazy [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► ones on CBS that's the robin williams [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► and sarah michelle gellar in yes David [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► Kelly screen works and Buffy working [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► Buffy Buffy should not do comedy but but [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► i would watch Morgan Buffy [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► that actually be funnier I've only seen [TS]