The Incomparable

167: Space Wizard Musical


00:00:00   the Intolerable number 167 November's [TS]

00:00:09   welcome back to being comfortable [TS]

00:00:10   podcast I'm your host Jason snow and [TS]

00:00:12   this is our second edition of our old [TS]

00:00:14   movie clip we travel back in time and [TS]

00:00:17   laundry and watch movies that are very [TS]

00:00:20   old in this case 61 years old and that [TS]

00:00:23   we may or may not have seen before i had [TS]

00:00:26   seen none of these movies they're all [TS]

00:00:29   from 1952 they were selected by our old [TS]

00:00:32   movie so Mellie a fill-up Michaels who [TS]

00:00:35   is here with me now hi Phil hello [TS]

00:00:38   I let me introduce our panel before we [TS]

00:00:40   get to these three movies [TS]

00:00:41   yes it's an epic it's an epic cast [TS]

00:00:43   almost like a Selby didn't film it's [TS]

00:00:46   practically a sensibility milk [TS]

00:00:48   production [TS]

00:00:49   I can't wait to see who the killer clown [TS]

00:00:51   is it's probably Steve let's hi Steve it [TS]

00:00:55   biggity Jason always dignity [TS]

00:01:01   uh you heard the laughter of Lisa [TS]

00:01:03   speiser there hi Lisa [TS]

00:01:05   hi it's a pleasure to be here good to [TS]

00:01:07   have you here David lower is also here [TS]

00:01:08   hi David hi this is like a clown car you [TS]

00:01:12   just panelists keep coming out this is [TS]

00:01:14   great [TS]

00:01:15   mahdi ash we also joins us haimanti draw [TS]

00:01:19   partner haha theres another movie [TS]

00:01:23   there's another movie good reference and [TS]

00:01:27   Erica and sinus back on the podcast hi [TS]

00:01:29   Erica [TS]

00:01:29   hello welcome back thank you [TS]

00:01:33   so okay Phil tell me your your-your-your [TS]

00:01:35   you suggested this premise it's all [TS]

00:01:37   based on the Academy Awards of 1952 can [TS]

00:01:40   you explain a little bit about what we [TS]

00:01:41   did I want to take you back in time to [TS]

00:01:43   see you're not not all the way back to [TS]

00:01:45   nineteen fifty-two now let's let's just [TS]

00:01:47   go back to the nineteen eighties when I [TS]

00:01:49   was a little kid and well medium-sized [TS]

00:01:52   alright and getting into movies and [TS]

00:01:54   thank you know i'm going to learn all [TS]

00:01:56   that I can about movies and I'm gonna do [TS]

00:01:58   it by watching the very best movies I [TS]

00:02:00   can obviously the very best movies are [TS]

00:02:02   the ones that when the best picture [TS]

00:02:04   oscar course and one Sunday afternoon I [TS]

00:02:09   think channel to up in the bay area was [TS]

00:02:11   showing the greatest show on earth and [TS]

00:02:13   so I decided to sit down and and and [TS]

00:02:16   watch this epic sprawling sesame the [TS]

00:02:19   middle story of loves and life's lost on [TS]

00:02:21   the circus [TS]

00:02:22   five hours later with commercials five [TS]

00:02:24   hours later in fact I believe they [TS]

00:02:26   actually broken up into two consecutive [TS]

00:02:28   weekends is how long aired on commercial [TS]

00:02:30   TV and I got it through and I that was [TS]

00:02:35   when sort of the scales fall off the [TS]

00:02:37   eyes and you realize you know maybe [TS]

00:02:39   films that may be the best picture [TS]

00:02:41   doesn't always win the best picture [TS]

00:02:42   award and over the years I've seen other [TS]

00:02:46   movies that that came out that year and [TS]

00:02:49   you know you get your years like crash [TS]

00:02:51   winning the the best picture that's [TS]

00:02:53   often cited as the most recent example [TS]

00:02:55   and who knows if the movies that came [TS]

00:02:59   out that you will stand the test of time [TS]

00:03:00   like a brokeback mountain or for capote [TS]

00:03:04   i think was nominated that year but we [TS]

00:03:06   we do have a pretty good track record of [TS]

00:03:08   1952 where the movies sort of fit in the [TS]

00:03:11   pantheon there and other movies that [TS]

00:03:13   came out that you're included two that [TS]

00:03:15   were what that we watch this part of [TS]

00:03:16   this exercise [TS]

00:03:17   singing in the rain quite possibly the [TS]

00:03:20   the greatest musical ever made i would [TS]

00:03:22   argue and high noon which is certainly [TS]

00:03:24   one of the iconic westerns and actually [TS]

00:03:28   a movie with something to say about the [TS]

00:03:29   human condition and the Academy looked [TS]

00:03:33   at both those movies didn't even [TS]

00:03:35   nominate singing in the rain and said [TS]

00:03:36   hey let's get to the circus movie and so [TS]

00:03:39   so here we are now having this [TS]

00:03:40   discussion in 2013 [TS]

00:03:43   alright so we watch singing in the rain [TS]

00:03:44   high noon and the greatest show on earth [TS]

00:03:47   some of us watching I made that sort of [TS]

00:03:48   optional because I didn't want to be I [TS]

00:03:50   don't want people to hate me [TS]

00:03:52   basic you're not cruel yeah I brought it [TS]

00:03:55   on yourself you need to block out a good [TS]

00:03:57   chunk of your evening to watch the [TS]

00:03:59   Creator show hundred because it is it it [TS]

00:04:01   feels like it's a thousand years long [TS]

00:04:02   it's only 800 the life I had to break it [TS]

00:04:06   up over two nights [TS]

00:04:07   yeah I didn't hack it got to the first [TS]

00:04:10   musical number and I said that's enough [TS]

00:04:11   for now [TS]

00:04:12   it took me three days to get through it [TS]

00:04:13   i gotta say but we gotta remember the [TS]

00:04:16   greatest show on earth is just it is [TS]

00:04:17   just a title not a description which [TS]

00:04:21   they were on earth [TS]

00:04:23   yeah it was worth it that way to show [TS]

00:04:25   their children [TS]

00:04:27   it wasn't freaking mean large that it [TS]

00:04:29   would convene a few things I guess yes [TS]

00:04:31   exactly let's just look at great as [TS]

00:04:33   meaning large in the sense the largest [TS]

00:04:35   show [TS]

00:04:35   that was the longest of the three films [TS]

00:04:38   that we watched that was the greatest [TS]

00:04:40   and links for shy for you could fit like [TS]

00:04:42   three high Noons into that it's alright [TS]

00:04:44   it's more description of volume that [TS]

00:04:46   high 2pm hi 430 yeah that would that be [TS]

00:04:51   exactly right it would have been the [TS]

00:04:52   high 3 325 actually be low side 420 all [TS]

00:04:58   right we should start with we're going [TS]

00:05:00   to start with the from the outside going [TS]

00:05:02   in for the Oscars which means we're [TS]

00:05:04   going to start with singing in the rain [TS]

00:05:06   which is generally regarded i think is a [TS]

00:05:10   movie classic and it was not even [TS]

00:05:12   nominated for best picture this is a [TS]

00:05:16   film actually directed by Gene Kelly and [TS]

00:05:21   co-directed yeah so directed and Stanley [TS]

00:05:23   Donen yeah [TS]

00:05:24   mhm I and starring of course Gene Kelly [TS]

00:05:28   a musical comedy Hollywood oriented a [TS]

00:05:34   lot of songs lots of dancing it set it [TS]

00:05:38   said in the nineteen-twenties just as [TS]

00:05:40   the movies are going from the silent [TS]

00:05:42   film era to the talkies it's it's it's a [TS]

00:05:46   big vibrant let's put on a show type [TS]

00:05:49   picture the origin story on of singing [TS]

00:05:51   in the rain is i believe the studio but [TS]

00:05:53   a whole catalog of songs and and [TS]

00:05:56   basically said let's make let's tie [TS]

00:05:58   together a movie based on these based on [TS]

00:06:00   these songs which have really nothing to [TS]

00:06:02   do with each other when they haven't had [TS]

00:06:03   a guy named freed or something right who [TS]

00:06:05   Arthur Arthur freed wasn't sure if the [TS]

00:06:08   mirrors and division of that those are [TS]

00:06:10   all his songs [TS]

00:06:11   yes right those and i think most of the [TS]

00:06:13   most of the songs in this film had been [TS]

00:06:15   used several times already before this [TS]

00:06:18   film never came out so it's like a chick [TS]

00:06:20   body and musical in a way especially I [TS]

00:06:24   not to get ahead of ourselves but [TS]

00:06:25   especially towards the end where there's [TS]

00:06:27   that moment of like oh and then we'll do [TS]

00:06:29   a scene that set in the present day and [TS]

00:06:31   it'll be like this and then there's a [TS]

00:06:33   random musical number that just [TS]

00:06:36   interminable is really yes [TS]

00:06:39   so that is the obligatory in every gene [TS]

00:06:42   kelly movie there's there's a scene [TS]

00:06:44   where he discussed i'm going to dance [TS]

00:06:46   now select a Broadway [TS]

00:06:47   the good news is you can get up and go [TS]

00:06:49   get a snack or go to the bathroom to [TS]

00:06:51   clean something and you can come back [TS]

00:06:52   and you've just got the end of it you [TS]

00:06:54   feel super productive i think i think is [TS]

00:06:56   that the one where where it ends with [TS]

00:06:57   the they cut back to the producer and [TS]

00:06:59   he's like well I can't picture it can't [TS]

00:07:01   quite yeah yeah that was good that was [TS]

00:07:03   good that was a good joke I i was so i'm [TS]

00:07:08   not a big i'm not a big dance aficionado [TS]

00:07:09   i'm just going to admit that and I know [TS]

00:07:11   that that there are some people on this [TS]

00:07:13   podcast know Erica enjoys dance stuff [TS]

00:07:16   and I ate like I feel like dancing [TS]

00:07:18   illiterate it's just I don't get it [TS]

00:07:20   it's not that I hated I just don't [TS]

00:07:21   understand it I didn't I did notice [TS]

00:07:24   because my wife likes musicals and in [TS]

00:07:29   advanced stuff and she was pointing out [TS]

00:07:31   how hard it was because they had to do [TS]

00:07:32   all the like fully of the tap dancing [TS]

00:07:36   and and and i totally broke the spell by [TS]

00:07:40   saying well you know you can tell [TS]

00:07:41   because there's this most famous dancing [TS]

00:07:43   maybe in film history where he's out in [TS]

00:07:45   the rain and and I'm i am totally taken [TS]

00:07:49   out of it by the fact that the tap [TS]

00:07:51   sounds don't match where his feet are [TS]

00:07:53   which means i'm a horrible human being [TS]

00:07:54   and I'd like to apologize to get out [TS]

00:07:56   right now [TS]

00:07:57   that is correct also the tapping off the [TS]

00:07:59   podcast which i understand it doesn't if [TS]

00:08:01   you're actually trying to tap-dance in [TS]

00:08:03   giant bubbles like he was [TS]

00:08:04   oh yes either you now since so there [TS]

00:08:07   I've said I've had my say so Jason what [TS]

00:08:09   does it feel like to have no soul yeah [TS]

00:08:11   and what do you put the mission is to be [TS]

00:08:13   reduced or comic books there is what I [TS]

00:08:18   actually really enjoyed this movie [TS]

00:08:21   because although like i said i'm sort of [TS]

00:08:23   dance illiterate I thought it was funny [TS]

00:08:27   and light i love the idea that we are [TS]

00:08:31   its people processing that the [TS]

00:08:33   transition to the talkies and of course [TS]

00:08:36   you get was Lina Lamont yes who is doing [TS]

00:08:41   great the great chain Hagen all she's [TS]

00:08:42   fantastic glamorous glamorous stars of [TS]

00:08:45   the screen until you she opens her mouth [TS]

00:08:47   and you discover that [TS]

00:08:51   yeah so uh you know really funny [TS]

00:08:54   uh so I I even although i have no soul [TS]

00:08:57   and cannot appreciate the sheer joy of [TS]

00:08:58   gene Kelly's dancing I actually I I [TS]

00:09:01   really I i was entered I was very [TS]

00:09:03   entertained by this movie and I thought [TS]

00:09:05   that there were lots of funny funny bits [TS]

00:09:07   and you know you look at movies at 61 [TS]

00:09:09   years old and you don't expect it to [TS]

00:09:11   have a meeting with the fact that there [TS]

00:09:14   was a Hollywood satire aspect to this it [TS]

00:09:17   was you know a little more modern than i [TS]

00:09:19   would I was going to give it credit for [TS]

00:09:21   i guess i would say one of the things [TS]

00:09:24   that I I I kind of pick up on over the [TS]

00:09:27   years and maybe I'm seeing things that [TS]

00:09:29   aren't there [TS]

00:09:30   there's a real you can kind of spot the [TS]

00:09:33   influence this film might have had on [TS]

00:09:35   someone like the Coen brothers because [TS]

00:09:37   there are just the shots of these kinds [TS]

00:09:39   of grotesque background people that that [TS]

00:09:42   pop up like at the the movie premiere [TS]

00:09:44   and though the party at the producers [TS]

00:09:47   house and it [TS]

00:09:48   where where is people just pop onto the [TS]

00:09:51   screen for kind of comic effect and [TS]

00:09:53   feels like early coen brothers in that [TS]

00:09:54   way there's there's use of a lot of a [TS]

00:09:56   zoom shots and and I I kind of wonder [TS]

00:10:00   how much influence that had on them [TS]

00:10:02   early on maybe none whatsoever but it's [TS]

00:10:05   something that I've always kinda [TS]

00:10:06   appreciated about singing in the rain [TS]

00:10:09   yeah I've never seen this before either [TS]

00:10:11   and in fact I've never actually seen a [TS]

00:10:13   gene kelly film before they're not all [TS]

00:10:15   like this [TS]

00:10:16   no no God no back in fact I thought that [TS]

00:10:19   I thought Fred Astaire was in this [TS]

00:10:21   originally before i turn it on [TS]

00:10:22   no no friends Jael nightmare diamond [TS]

00:10:24   answer guy yeah yeah Fred Astaire I've [TS]

00:10:27   never really cotton to Fred Astaire [TS]

00:10:28   movies but I I enjoy watching Gene Kelly [TS]

00:10:30   features in my name is pretty [TS]

00:10:32   prominently whereas I'm the opposite [TS]

00:10:34   see the thing is Fred Astaire so [TS]

00:10:35   disturbingly boneless that it's all its [TS]

00:10:37   supernatural not know not in a good way [TS]

00:10:39   it's kind of a also one killed a dancer [TS]

00:10:41   and buried in a pet cemetery now let's [TS]

00:10:42   come back find away it's like Slenderman [TS]

00:10:45   the musical and what this is exciting [TS]

00:10:46   people who like dancing disagree about [TS]

00:10:48   dancers fight fight it out dance it out [TS]

00:10:52   there's much more artistic dancers Gene [TS]

00:10:55   Kelly is a very physical dancer [TS]

00:10:57   well that's good i was impressed with is [TS]

00:10:59   he's just show started [TS]

00:11:01   he's very is staccato and precise [TS]

00:11:03   whereas Fred Astaire is more fluid and I [TS]

00:11:06   prefer sort of the more fluid kind of a [TS]

00:11:08   dancer and I like it looks more relaxed [TS]

00:11:11   whereas Gene Kelly looks like he's [TS]

00:11:12   working for it and he's excellent [TS]

00:11:14   it's fun i think of West Side Story [TS]

00:11:16   style rumbles about to break out here [TS]

00:11:18   I've seen that I've seen that this movie [TS]

00:11:20   maybe want to go back in time to take [TS]

00:11:22   the branch where I become a dancer [TS]

00:11:24   actually it was so impressed with the [TS]

00:11:27   dancing and the Donald O'Connor is [TS]

00:11:30   diagnosed as well [TS]

00:11:32   oh yeah walks away with this movie in my [TS]

00:11:34   opinion in fact his facial expressions [TS]

00:11:36   are enough to sell me on the movies he's [TS]

00:11:37   utterly fantastic but yeah gene kelly [TS]

00:11:40   kind of blew me away i was surprised [TS]

00:11:41   that the counters dance for make him [TS]

00:11:43   laugh is amazing because he put so much [TS]

00:11:46   energy to it is practically all in one [TS]

00:11:48   shot and then you go on the internet [TS]

00:11:50   find out who's smoking four packs of [TS]

00:11:52   cigarettes a day and had to be [TS]

00:11:54   hospitalized after that didn't have to [TS]

00:11:57   do it twice because the camera had a [TS]

00:11:58   malfunction and so he probably had yeah [TS]

00:12:02   you do produce that he had to perform [TS]

00:12:03   that whole punishing sequence twice and [TS]

00:12:06   make it look like it was nothing [TS]

00:12:07   and I like the the Blythe witty element [TS]

00:12:11   that he brings to the film it's a smart [TS]

00:12:12   film and there's a lot of women back and [TS]

00:12:15   forth to it but I i think that O'Connor [TS]

00:12:18   nicely undercuts the treacle that [TS]

00:12:20   develops between the gene kelly and [TS]

00:12:23   Debra Debra Reynolds characters [TS]

00:12:25   temporary extension very formal the show [TS]

00:12:28   is going to properly i haven't been [TS]

00:12:30   properly introduced do you happen to [TS]

00:12:31   know princess Leia's mom had no idea [TS]

00:12:34   that Debbie Reynolds was ever so cute [TS]

00:12:36   oh yeah social button in this movie [TS]

00:12:38   whatever she never stopped being cute [TS]

00:12:40   what are you talking about she's the [TS]

00:12:41   jennifer aniston of the nineteen fifties [TS]

00:12:43   and like several different although she [TS]

00:12:45   has absolutely no chemistry with Gene [TS]

00:12:47   Kelly whatsoever not out all they did [TS]

00:12:49   not get along apparently on the set the [TS]

00:12:51   King James Kelly was a difficult person [TS]

00:12:53   to work with and for Biola can't don't [TS]

00:12:56   you understand he made fun of her lack [TS]

00:12:59   of dancing skill [TS]

00:12:59   yeah everybody in this movie was [TS]

00:13:01   miserable the whole time but you can't [TS]

00:13:03   tell at all from the movie everybody's [TS]

00:13:05   smiling and cheerful and dancing their [TS]

00:13:08   little hearts out [TS]

00:13:09   yeah it's called acting if the smiles [TS]

00:13:11   are almost too big that we almost too [TS]

00:13:13   much i think it's a little like like yes [TS]

00:13:15   I'm happy because i have to be I think [TS]

00:13:18   they're a little bit i think it's your [TS]

00:13:20   paper reality of the whole because the [TS]

00:13:21   fashions are so vivid the dialogue is so [TS]

00:13:24   stylized the colors are so saturated I [TS]

00:13:26   think the whole point of the movie was a [TS]

00:13:27   little bit of high [TS]

00:13:28   a reality where because you're dealing [TS]

00:13:30   with something as filled with hyperbolas [TS]

00:13:32   the entertainment industry you have an [TS]

00:13:34   aesthetic that matches the outside sense [TS]

00:13:36   of reality and the slight untethering [TS]

00:13:38   from from the aesthetic that we have an [TS]

00:13:40   everyday life and and I think that's why [TS]

00:13:42   it holds up on as opposed to other [TS]

00:13:44   musicals yes i was jumping back to the [TS]

00:13:47   dancing for a second Jason it's [TS]

00:13:48   interesting that you [TS]

00:13:49   you mentioned that you know that I like [TS]

00:13:50   dancing because i believe i mentioned [TS]

00:13:52   that when we were talking about the [TS]

00:13:53   matrix yes video and one of the reasons [TS]

00:13:56   i was talking about it then is because i [TS]

00:13:59   was saying that i'm not a huge fan of [TS]

00:14:00   action sequences but I like dance [TS]

00:14:02   sequences and then somebody went on to [TS]

00:14:04   point out that action sequences that [TS]

00:14:06   don't have any that aren't furthering [TS]

00:14:08   the plot are the ones that are the most [TS]

00:14:09   boring and I actually feel that way [TS]

00:14:11   about dance sequences if there's a bit [TS]

00:14:14   if it's just dancing for the sake of [TS]

00:14:16   dancing I get bored and there's a lot of [TS]

00:14:18   that in this movie which is why is it's [TS]

00:14:20   not my favorite musical [TS]

00:14:21   how dare you whiteboards fighter yes i [TS]

00:14:26   think probably my favorite would be top [TS]

00:14:27   hat i think i think that's more like it [TS]

00:14:29   more because i like the plot of top hat [TS]

00:14:31   it's paper thin but what it is [TS]

00:14:34   yeah you could get my God we're getting [TS]

00:14:37   into musical snobbery ya up all these [TS]

00:14:40   are actually going i'm here for comics [TS]

00:14:42   and sci fi I don't understand what's [TS]

00:14:44   happening oh I don't know what's going [TS]

00:14:45   on i'm going to start with the [TS]

00:14:47   stormtroopers begin dancing because i'm [TS]

00:14:49   really confused i would watch them movie [TS]

00:14:51   i quite like singin in the rain is just [TS]

00:14:53   it i don't love it i have a weird [TS]

00:14:54   ambivalence to it because there are bits [TS]

00:14:56   and pieces of it that i just adore and [TS]

00:14:58   then there are the parts where i do look [TS]

00:14:59   at what you said we don't want to get up [TS]

00:15:01   to go clean the house instead [TS]

00:15:02   oh my god Lu come join me we will rule [TS]

00:15:06   the universe together but first we dad [TS]

00:15:09   that there was the Flash Gordon from [TS]

00:15:13   1980 what I like about singing in the [TS]

00:15:15   rain the most is that it's actually [TS]

00:15:17   about one of my favorite areas in movie [TS]

00:15:19   history which is right after they [TS]

00:15:20   started having sound they knew they had [TS]

00:15:23   to have musicals but they didn't have [TS]

00:15:24   any idea what movie musical should be [TS]

00:15:26   like yeah see we had like the broadway [TS]

00:15:28   melody movies which are just ziegfeld [TS]

00:15:30   follies and what yeah it's just a [TS]

00:15:32   cavalcade of people's terrible [TS]

00:15:34   vaudeville acts and then you suddenly [TS]

00:15:36   had Busby Berkeley making a leica [TS]

00:15:39   footlight parade with James Cagney [TS]

00:15:41   which just allegedly it's about somebody [TS]

00:15:44   who puts on stage shows that go in front [TS]

00:15:47   of movie screens while they're changing [TS]

00:15:48   the movie over but then when they start [TS]

00:15:51   all the sudden it takes up like three [TS]

00:15:54   football fields and there's waterfalls [TS]

00:15:56   and stuff missing it lasted on fire and [TS]

00:16:00   spangled ingrained what's when the the [TS]

00:16:05   opening of Temple of Doom where they do [TS]

00:16:07   anything goes in Mandarin and and that's [TS]

00:16:10   a real really nice tribute to that kind [TS]

00:16:12   of thing where you have this really [TS]

00:16:14   simple stage show in a club that all of [TS]

00:16:16   a sudden the camera zooms in and you've [TS]

00:16:18   got you know all these fields worth of [TS]

00:16:20   space where they have all the fabric [TS]

00:16:23   that they're flying around and that I [TS]

00:16:25   mean that's my favorite part of Temple [TS]

00:16:26   of Doom you but it won't release his [TS]

00:16:28   mind [TS]

00:16:29   I don't remember this way to bring it [TS]

00:16:32   back to a movie I've seen David you know [TS]

00:16:35   I'm here for you [TS]

00:16:36   I don't remember I don't remember this I [TS]

00:16:38   I now have to go watching HSN just [TS]

00:16:40   judges have watched the first 15 minutes [TS]

00:16:41   you know what Stan Aykroyd shows up you [TS]

00:16:44   can physically get off [TS]

00:16:45   yeah your wkn a crisis i haven't seen [TS]

00:16:49   this since it wasn't the theater who [TS]

00:16:52   think it clearly made an indelible [TS]

00:16:54   impression of pointless mother today I [TS]

00:16:56   remember being very very angry that that [TS]

00:16:58   was the film that her daughter was [TS]

00:16:59   family winter season with musical number [TS]

00:17:01   up eating and quickly descends into [TS]

00:17:04   eating monkey brains much like any [TS]

00:17:06   friends here his greatest works well are [TS]

00:17:08   you saying it's good until shortround [TS]

00:17:09   shows up oh no it's but it'sit's great [TS]

00:17:11   until they land in India that's when it [TS]

00:17:14   falls apart without you [TS]

00:17:15   ok so you're including the rubber raft [TS]

00:17:17   flying through the air [TS]

00:17:18   no no when they jump out of the plane [TS]

00:17:20   that's yeah jump out of the plane really [TS]

00:17:22   you know if it's worth be catching up on [TS]

00:17:24   the Indiana Jones wants the first 51 [TS]

00:17:25   making of your families so that is like [TS]

00:17:28   singing Lorraine Temple of Doom was also [TS]

00:17:31   not nominated for an Oscar nothing have [TS]

00:17:33   two very similar good time together so [TS]

00:17:37   let's talk about this real fast at the [TS]

00:17:39   the whole Oscar element here [TS]

00:17:40   alright yeah what what is the cause I [TS]

00:17:43   frankly don't give two craps about Oscar [TS]

00:17:45   most of the time for sure hot cast what [TS]

00:17:48   is the record for musicals as far as [TS]

00:17:51   being nominated or or winning best [TS]

00:17:53   quickly they do pretty [TS]

00:17:55   well in fact yeah the year before [TS]

00:17:56   singing in the rain a gene kelly musical [TS]

00:17:58   an American in Paris won best picture [TS]

00:18:00   really know did that win best picture [TS]

00:18:03   good lord Oscar what you see [TS]

00:18:05   yeah I I that's pretty much the same [TS]

00:18:07   time so it could very well have just [TS]

00:18:08   been Kelly one last year so let's skip [TS]

00:18:11   over this year and Chicago one recently [TS]

00:18:14   took John recently in the 1960s you [TS]

00:18:16   would think the 1960s would be this wild [TS]

00:18:18   experimental time for the movies but [TS]

00:18:20   Oliver and hello dolly I think my one [TS]

00:18:24   day they talk about higher lady [TS]

00:18:26   well they talk about how hello dolly [TS]

00:18:28   gonna list a claim it was showing how [TS]

00:18:29   out-of-touch the Academy was with the [TS]

00:18:30   forces that were overtaking filmmaking [TS]

00:18:32   right [TS]

00:18:33   hello dolly and Barbra Streisand are [TS]

00:18:34   pretty much used as your haha the [TS]

00:18:37   Academy doesn't get it and at the time [TS]

00:18:39   you know American Paris was seen as this [TS]

00:18:41   you know really great gene kelly film [TS]

00:18:43   and it had the huge ballet sequence and [TS]

00:18:46   then he comes back with this spoof of [TS]

00:18:47   Hollywood [TS]

00:18:48   yeah it was it was seen as a very [TS]

00:18:50   lightweight film in 1952 yeah well it is [TS]

00:18:53   it and it is [TS]

00:18:54   yeah infection but there's nothing wrong [TS]

00:18:57   with that because it's really well-made [TS]

00:18:57   yeah it's a really nice confection like [TS]

00:19:00   this movie we have a rear about circuses [TS]

00:19:02   yeah god no it's not an infection that [TS]

00:19:04   is that is like that's like a TGI [TS]

00:19:06   Fridays like cookie skillet sunday with [TS]

00:19:09   five scoops that's like having a whole [TS]

00:19:10   wedding cake jammed down your gullet the [TS]

00:19:13   toilet plunger I saw situations in the [TS]

00:19:16   in the creditors like oh well I wonder [TS]

00:19:17   what part she'll play and the answer is [TS]

00:19:19   i drop into dance scene all she's the [TS]

00:19:23   legs i enjoyed the i believe i turned to [TS]

00:19:27   Lauren and said I'm sure that's exactly [TS]

00:19:29   how the Hollywood story meetings go when [TS]

00:19:31   they're like hey let's let's add a plot [TS]

00:19:34   here it is little called the dancing [TS]

00:19:36   cavalier it's like in in like two [TS]

00:19:37   minutes they come up with this whole [TS]

00:19:38   asinine modification for this the silent [TS]

00:19:43   film to turn it into a into a talkie [TS]

00:19:45   I've gotta to DVD set of like a hundred [TS]

00:19:48   musicals some of which are only 40 [TS]

00:19:50   minutes long [TS]

00:19:51   that's like a pretty much certainly how [TS]

00:19:53   they made those movies [TS]

00:19:54   yeah it well it's like they will patton [TS]

00:19:57   oswalt routine about dr. Scott's about [TS]

00:19:59   how he's brought in to do script [TS]

00:20:01   doctoring work on animated movies and [TS]

00:20:03   they put a lot of terrible jokes in the [TS]

00:20:05   background too [TS]

00:20:06   mask the fact that nothing interesting [TS]

00:20:08   is happening on the screen and that's [TS]

00:20:09   that's kind of your your 1920's 1930's [TS]

00:20:12   musical planning in a nutshell [TS]

00:20:15   so in the famous singing in the rain [TS]

00:20:16   seen one of the things I liked about it [TS]

00:20:20   is at the end i love I've actually love [TS]

00:20:22   that he's dipping his feet in the water [TS]

00:20:24   in the deep water by the by the gutter i [TS]

00:20:26   think that's pretty cool and i love that [TS]

00:20:27   it ends with with the cop and he's like [TS]

00:20:31   oh I've been dancing in the street like [TS]

00:20:33   a crazy person and a cop has noticed did [TS]

00:20:38   nothing to see here I'm just gonna [TS]

00:20:39   continue my walking now and here you [TS]

00:20:41   here sir enjoy this umbrella i like that [TS]

00:20:44   touch [TS]

00:20:45   yeah that's it I'm done left how that [TS]

00:20:47   scene like many of the Dancing's is done [TS]

00:20:50   in a wide shot that's held continuously [TS]

00:20:52   so you can actually see the person [TS]

00:20:53   dancing and what they're doing [TS]

00:20:55   I mention that because i saw battle of [TS]

00:20:56   the year recently which is a dance movie [TS]

00:20:58   where you can see no dancing [TS]

00:21:00   let's that's awful people jumping around [TS]

00:21:04   it's all people starting to do a [TS]

00:21:05   backflip and they cut to a different [TS]

00:21:06   angle and somebody else starts to do a [TS]

00:21:08   backflip and you continue that for five [TS]

00:21:09   minutes and they say that's a damn you [TS]

00:21:11   you just doing gymnastics except that [TS]

00:21:13   all you do is you show the girl with the [TS]

00:21:14   ponytails sprinting down and jumping on [TS]

00:21:16   a springboard and then you show them [TS]

00:21:17   losing the landing you do that because [TS]

00:21:19   you're making a dance scene where no one [TS]

00:21:21   can actually dance whereas when you [TS]

00:21:22   ought at gene kelly and a dozen other [TS]

00:21:26   people can dance I've seen them do it [TS]

00:21:27   they can at least do backflips you don't [TS]

00:21:29   get to see all of those are just the [TS]

00:21:32   same thing is dancing though it is now [TS]

00:21:35   alright let's step away from old-time [TS]

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00:23:20   incomparable I have a question for you [TS]

00:23:22   musical historians out there [TS]

00:23:24   yeah what percentage of early musicals [TS]

00:23:26   are about making a musical for like [TS]

00:23:29   sixty to ninety five percent roughly the [TS]

00:23:32   first five or six years practically all [TS]

00:23:34   of them certainly all the broadway [TS]

00:23:37   melody and big broadcast movies are i [TS]

00:23:41   want to say that Oklahoma was kind of [TS]

00:23:43   unique in the fact that it was actually [TS]

00:23:45   a musical that was that told a story [TS]

00:23:48   that wasn't innately about putting on a [TS]

00:23:51   show but i might be wrong on the time in [TS]

00:23:54   there even the ones that aren't innately [TS]

00:23:55   about putting on a show are often and [TS]

00:23:57   have that sort of like thrown in there [TS]

00:23:59   like top hat it's not about putting on a [TS]

00:24:01   show but there's a bit of that in there [TS]

00:24:02   even like the sound of music that's not [TS]

00:24:05   about putting on a show but they sure [TS]

00:24:06   put our show yeah right i think Oklahoma [TS]

00:24:09   is considered to be important because [TS]

00:24:11   the first one where the songs are [TS]

00:24:12   actually advancing the plot and so we [TS]

00:24:15   have somebody stops sings and then three [TS]

00:24:17   minutes later picks up their [TS]

00:24:18   conversation where I assume they were [TS]

00:24:21   Broadway musicals before this is it that [TS]

00:24:24   certainly can't have been a new [TS]

00:24:25   innovation for musicals in general while [TS]

00:24:28   you're all the way back to nineteen [TS]

00:24:29   twenties and back then as far as i can [TS]

00:24:32   tell from [TS]

00:24:33   reading PG Wodehouse musicals back then [TS]

00:24:36   they were very much like reviewed by [TS]

00:24:39   media and they bring out the girls and [TS]

00:24:42   then you keep the girls there cause [TS]

00:24:43   that's all anyone wanted the kind of [TS]

00:24:44   stuff that plays an oatmeal Nebraska [TS]

00:24:46   yeah right you want you to be able to [TS]

00:24:49   dip things in and out and go okay this [TS]

00:24:50   doesn't work at all let's put in a [TS]

00:24:52   different song and it was it wasn't in [TS]

00:24:54   the early thirties when they started to [TS]

00:24:57   say okay let's there's there's a shape [TS]

00:24:59   of a story to the show and you know like [TS]

00:25:03   now with anything goes the actual [TS]

00:25:04   musical Cole Porter was sick and tired [TS]

00:25:07   of people coming late to his shows [TS]

00:25:09   because that was the fashionable thing [TS]

00:25:11   so we'll come five or ten minutes late [TS]

00:25:12   so he knew that I get a kick out of you [TS]

00:25:15   is going to be the hit from the show and [TS]

00:25:17   he said that's the first song in the [TS]

00:25:19   show and so all his friends came 15 [TS]

00:25:22   minutes late the next morning everyone [TS]

00:25:23   is talking about this great songs are [TS]

00:25:24   like what song was that we didn't hear [TS]

00:25:27   that song what's that hold that and then [TS]

00:25:29   and then you know current and [TS]

00:25:31   Hammerstein and Rodgers and Hart started [TS]

00:25:34   to make story and then you know from [TS]

00:25:38   their kind of went on and then when [TS]

00:25:39   Rodgers and Hammerstein got together [TS]

00:25:40   then they said hey we can make a story [TS]

00:25:42   that doesn't actually involve show [TS]

00:25:44   people putting on a show [TS]

00:25:46   I like this the fact that it had to be a [TS]

00:25:48   paradigm buster is is is kind of sad [TS]

00:25:51   yeah well the meat the musical is such a [TS]

00:25:54   strange onra and I say that as a fan of [TS]

00:25:56   music gasps where where you're just sort [TS]

00:25:57   of walking down the street and then [TS]

00:25:59   suddenly you to do I fear and I throw do [TS]

00:26:02   it just grew out of oven music hall [TS]

00:26:06   yeah yeah yeah I actually headed to drag [TS]

00:26:09   my spouse kicking and screaming to watch [TS]

00:26:10   this with me he hates musicals for that [TS]

00:26:13   very reason he doesn't understand he can [TS]

00:26:15   he can totally get behind some space [TS]

00:26:17   wizard fighting another space wizard [TS]

00:26:19   with a sword made out of light but you [TS]

00:26:21   can't handle somebody's stopping in the [TS]

00:26:23   middle of the street and suddenly [TS]

00:26:24   singing a song [TS]

00:26:25   are these filthy revolutionary singing [TS]

00:26:27   about to France great Ally every time a [TS]

00:26:31   song came on i had to be like see it's [TS]

00:26:32   diegetic they're actually singing that [TS]

00:26:34   song there's a reason for it and then [TS]

00:26:36   there were a couple of numbers where it [TS]

00:26:37   was like I got nothing i'm sorry they're [TS]

00:26:38   just paying for no reason and and how [TS]

00:26:40   did the Albatross ultimately enjoy [TS]

00:26:41   singing in the rain actually in this [TS]

00:26:44   case I think he lifted it up because he [TS]

00:26:46   had a lot of fun looking at the just the [TS]

00:26:48   filming techniques and the fact that [TS]

00:26:50   when you'd be the camera would move from [TS]

00:26:52   one room to the other you see the edge [TS]

00:26:54   of the wall and this that if you said [TS]

00:26:56   yeah fascinated by that he complained [TS]

00:26:58   about the badly time fully and the dance [TS]

00:27:00   numbers he actually did mention the flat [TS]

00:27:03   all right oh yeah yeah you're right also [TS]

00:27:06   not enough space wizard related musicals [TS]

00:27:08   by the way in hell Hollywood hello don't [TS]

00:27:10   give them ideas [TS]

00:27:12   Oh God so I i was inoculated a with the [TS]

00:27:16   King and I at a young age because that [TS]

00:27:17   was my mother's favorite movie and and [TS]

00:27:19   then I remember seeing that prevents [TS]

00:27:22   mom's right yeah it does it does and [TS]

00:27:24   others but not for the king he doesn't [TS]

00:27:26   even it's very cute guys [TS]

00:27:27   yeah really support horn yeah where's [TS]

00:27:31   the cake and I know this is your brother [TS]

00:27:33   I die at the end of the king and i [TS]

00:27:35   please do not smoke off my daughter [TS]

00:27:38   yeah yeah anyway is why I saw that and [TS]

00:27:42   then west side story obviously when I [TS]

00:27:45   was probably 14 or something like that [TS]

00:27:46   and and then so I get it I I don't find [TS]

00:27:49   it as maybe as totally nuts as a as [TS]

00:27:54   Erica's husband does but I I it's not my [TS]

00:27:57   favorite genre but i like so I mean what [TS]

00:27:59   I'm saying is hey I like singing in the [TS]

00:28:01   rain especially then later I watched [TS]

00:28:04   other movies made this year huh and I [TS]

00:28:07   really like singing in the rain and [TS]

00:28:08   wished i could watch it again and again [TS]

00:28:09   instead of other movies but you know [TS]

00:28:12   that much more likely referring to [TS]

00:28:14   well he certainly isn't referring to [TS]

00:28:15   high noon no no which was nominated for [TS]

00:28:18   a there was too much singing in high [TS]

00:28:21   noon know as far as I'm yeah well yeah [TS]

00:28:23   that's actually my my least favorite [TS]

00:28:25   part about High Noon is focus on [TS]

00:28:27   Freddie's yeah continuously it that's my [TS]

00:28:30   favorite part of the Mad Magazine parody [TS]

00:28:32   of high new not for shake Muriel mod or [TS]

00:28:35   we could only afford one song you think [TS]

00:28:37   there's a lot of zipper in the third man [TS]

00:28:40   oh but there is no that texture that I [TS]

00:28:44   like how that texture song sets the mood [TS]

00:28:47   and then it never stops playing which is [TS]

00:28:51   kind of crazy like I said ever it [TS]

00:28:53   actually did remind me of the relentless [TS]

00:28:55   scissoring of the third band where it's [TS]

00:28:58   like we got we're gonna go with this is [TS]

00:29:00   it [TS]

00:29:00   music yes let's do that here it's like [TS]

00:29:02   hey Tex Ritter he's great play it it's [TS]

00:29:05   like fight the power [TS]

00:29:06   yeah I did me actually of I've never [TS]

00:29:09   seen I've never actually seen the doctor [TS]

00:29:10   who cereal the gunfighters but from [TS]

00:29:12   everything I've heard about it the last [TS]

00:29:14   chance saloon if the song that plays [TS]

00:29:16   over and over again in that story it it [TS]

00:29:19   seems like it must have been that same [TS]

00:29:20   experience because people say they hate [TS]

00:29:21   that sign from hearing it so many times [TS]

00:29:23   I was like I finally know how they feel [TS]

00:29:25   we've got we've got one song we do you [TS]

00:29:28   want us to do play the song initially [TS]

00:29:31   that some kind of bug me but after a [TS]

00:29:33   while it was actually serving to sort of [TS]

00:29:35   ratchet up the tension wraps it around [TS]

00:29:37   yeah i think it's the Stockholm Syndrome [TS]

00:29:39   kind of spoilery that really i like to [TS]

00:29:41   imagine the text later played [TS]

00:29:43   continuously throughout the movie like [TS]

00:29:44   he's just off off the off-camera just [TS]

00:29:46   put keep singing text [TS]

00:29:48   yeah so okay so high noon AKA one hell [TS]

00:29:52   of a crappy day for will Kane yeah just [TS]

00:29:55   what i would call it [TS]

00:29:56   yeah yeah so so the he's it's and it's [TS]

00:29:59   and it's is his wedding day it's [TS]

00:30:00   supposed to be a good day and he's [TS]

00:30:02   retiring isn't town marshal he's leaving [TS]

00:30:04   new marshals coming tomorrow you can [TS]

00:30:06   tell how excited he is with that kissy [TS]

00:30:08   plants on his new wife to it is [TS]

00:30:11   passionate Grace Kelly I yeah but the [TS]

00:30:15   bad guys are coming on the noon train [TS]

00:30:16   and when they get there they're gonna [TS]

00:30:18   come and find the old Marshall and [TS]

00:30:20   they're gonna they're gonna take the [TS]

00:30:22   revenge [TS]

00:30:23   that's right and and the movie is [TS]

00:30:24   essentially told in more or less real [TS]

00:30:27   time as the clock [TS]

00:30:29   oh by the way this town is a town where [TS]

00:30:31   there are lots of clocks visible and [TS]

00:30:33   lots of Cour at all times [TS]

00:30:35   yes and and that woman that's the that's [TS]

00:30:37   the very cool thing about about this [TS]

00:30:39   movie is that it's it's it's sort of [TS]

00:30:41   setup as the standard Western and it [TS]

00:30:43   turns out the bulk of the running time [TS]

00:30:44   is him trying to put together a posse to [TS]

00:30:47   fight these bad guys we're going to [TS]

00:30:48   cover the town and kill him and the the [TS]

00:30:51   people of the town or unmoved and [TS]

00:30:53   they're like well thanks for imposing [TS]

00:30:55   order and making sure that we were safe [TS]

00:30:57   but you're on your own now we got two [TS]

00:31:00   things in this town clocks and Tex [TS]

00:31:02   Ritter but we don't got it is a lot of [TS]

00:31:04   courage know so so having never seen [TS]

00:31:07   this movie before I want to say up at [TS]

00:31:09   the top here this movie was shot in [TS]

00:31:13   on a back lot in LA and on location [TS]

00:31:16   where I grew up and in fact parts of the [TS]

00:31:19   town are columbia state historic park [TS]

00:31:21   where i went to elementary school to [TS]

00:31:23   where I grew up and I the countryside is [TS]

00:31:27   absolutely the countryside outside the [TS]

00:31:29   town that I grew up in and the train [TS]

00:31:31   that pulls in bringing the bad guys at [TS]

00:31:34   the end of the movie is actually the [TS]

00:31:35   same train that's in back to the future [TS]

00:31:36   three and it is admin at the rail town [TS]

00:31:39   historic park in jamestown California so [TS]

00:31:42   this uh i watch this movie almost as a [TS]

00:31:45   mean it was I grew up in high noon [TS]

00:31:49   essentially with cower ask as it turns [TS]

00:31:52   out he was 60 was almost crushed by a [TS]

00:31:54   clock no wonder you're sick of the song [TS]

00:31:55   so now you know why there's no sheriff [TS]

00:31:57   in your home terrorism o'clock downtown [TS]

00:31:59   so I noticed that Jason also didn't help [TS]

00:32:02   Marshall I didn't so but what he's [TS]

00:32:05   saying a lot but anyway I i really [TS]

00:32:07   enjoyed that because the high noon at [TS]

00:32:09   Grace Kelly stayed at the at the Senora [TS]

00:32:12   in town centre when they were filming [TS]

00:32:14   this movie it's a I think they actually [TS]

00:32:15   have it like on a sign somewhere so yeah [TS]

00:32:19   I grew up I grew up in high noon but uh [TS]

00:32:21   but uh i love that this movie supports [TS]

00:32:24   that expectation that you know the first [TS]

00:32:27   thing we see are our hero do after he [TS]

00:32:28   gets married is is run away right before [TS]

00:32:30   he thinks better of it turns around and [TS]

00:32:32   realize that they'll just gotta find the [TS]

00:32:35   right word [TS]

00:32:36   well well okay so so in the end like the [TS]

00:32:40   town gets shot up and um he could have [TS]

00:32:44   just left right I guess they would have [TS]

00:32:45   I guess they would have a you know gone [TS]

00:32:49   wild the bad guys would have gone wild [TS]

00:32:51   in the town or something but they would [TS]

00:32:52   eventually tracked him down because he [TS]

00:32:54   was having sure you're coming back right [TS]

00:32:56   so it really wasn't entirely brave move [TS]

00:32:58   for him to turn around and come back as [TS]

00:33:00   he says there's more stubborn as they're [TS]

00:33:02   rolling away but it's also partially [TS]

00:33:04   clearly because he feels like he's he's [TS]

00:33:06   on the hook for the town still even [TS]

00:33:08   though he's technically retired right [TS]

00:33:10   and there's there's some talk that you [TS]

00:33:12   know some people were very much looking [TS]

00:33:14   forward to the bad guys coming back at [TS]

00:33:15   ya [TS]

00:33:16   as things things was lively then and [TS]

00:33:19   there was a lot of money to be made so [TS]

00:33:21   that's one of the things I liked about [TS]

00:33:24   the film was the fact that they didn't [TS]

00:33:25   draw a hard line as to whether it was a [TS]

00:33:28   good idea for him to come back or not he [TS]

00:33:30   had this idea that they were gonna run [TS]

00:33:31   run roughshod over the town but then you [TS]

00:33:34   know that the fellow with the church was [TS]

00:33:36   saying you know if you leave we probably [TS]

00:33:38   won't have any trouble at all they think [TS]

00:33:39   they're really never makes it clear if [TS]

00:33:42   if it's good or bad and I think that's I [TS]

00:33:44   like the gray in fact business in town [TS]

00:33:46   was better when the bad guys were [TS]

00:33:47   hanging around right so a lot of people [TS]

00:33:48   are waiting for my comeback [TS]

00:33:50   they say that but the first thing the [TS]

00:33:51   bad guys do is start smashing windows [TS]

00:33:53   and stealing bonnets [TS]

00:33:54   yeah but the guy who makes the windows [TS]

00:33:55   loves that guy makes the bonnets lot of [TS]

00:33:58   fat [TS]

00:33:58   yeah good for some it's now my favorite [TS]

00:34:02   kid my favorite character in the movie [TS]

00:34:04   among the ancillary characters is the [TS]

00:34:05   sneering hotel clerk always man cursor [TS]

00:34:09   to EB Farnum on you know what [TS]

00:34:11   yeah I love that they flush out the [TS]

00:34:12   hotel clerk is this really smarmy [TS]

00:34:14   bastard i mean it's it's it's not you [TS]

00:34:15   know Western it's to have the incidental [TS]

00:34:18   characters have real personalities seems [TS]

00:34:20   really unusual to me and all of these do [TS]

00:34:23   it and i also really like the way this [TS]

00:34:25   with this movie is structured it it [TS]

00:34:27   doesn't give you a lot of exposition [TS]

00:34:29   upfront kind of lays out the back story [TS]

00:34:32   in dribs and drabs and it's kind of like [TS]

00:34:34   we're seeing the end of a much longer [TS]

00:34:35   story and Aaron are standing what [TS]

00:34:38   happened before is just sort of being [TS]

00:34:40   meted out bit by bit I think that's [TS]

00:34:41   great because there's some mystery about [TS]

00:34:43   why you know all of his deputies are [TS]

00:34:46   gone and what happened between him and [TS]

00:34:47   Helen Ramirez and all the other things [TS]

00:34:50   why is lloyd bridges so bitter [TS]

00:34:52   yeah was he tipped off about so yeah I [TS]

00:34:55   thought this was really cool [TS]

00:34:56   no Lloyd Bridges why does he sound the [TS]

00:34:58   same in this movie is he does 30 years [TS]

00:35:00   later theme playing the whole time I was [TS]

00:35:03   just like Oh Lloyd Bridges come on Lloyd [TS]

00:35:05   Bridges by this time my lungs were [TS]

00:35:07   aching for air i like i love the Helen [TS]

00:35:09   Ramirez character that's that that's a [TS]

00:35:11   really nice nice thing and she's got her [TS]

00:35:14   she's got her business she's like all [TS]

00:35:16   right I'm gonna sell them getting down [TS]

00:35:17   how young is one tough customer which is [TS]

00:35:19   nice and she's like I hate that I hate [TS]

00:35:21   this pit [TS]

00:35:22   I'm getting out and getting out of seven [TS]

00:35:24   eat my dog you people disgust me I've [TS]

00:35:26   taken everything from you I can sign or [TS]

00:35:29   a circle [TS]

00:35:30   yeah i did like her I like the fact that [TS]

00:35:32   this was a Western with two very [TS]

00:35:35   a strong prominent female characters i [TS]

00:35:37   mean it still doesn't quite pass the [TS]

00:35:38   bechdel test but i like the fact that [TS]

00:35:41   they were they were right in your face a [TS]

00:35:42   lot of the time yeah the Grace Kelly's [TS]

00:35:45   character is is she's interesting I mean [TS]

00:35:48   she's had she's headstrong I like that [TS]

00:35:51   she goes to the train and she's like [TS]

00:35:53   well alright i have stormed off in a [TS]

00:35:55   huff and i'm at the train station [TS]

00:35:57   I'm it's hot i'm gonna go way back boat [TS]

00:36:00   oh it's hot in there is three ruffians [TS]

00:36:03   staring at me lewdly but you can tell [TS]

00:36:05   this movie was made in the fifties as [TS]

00:36:06   opposed to now when the ruffians would [TS]

00:36:08   probably make be making life really [TS]

00:36:09   uncomfortable for her [TS]

00:36:10   um there's there's a more genteel code [TS]

00:36:12   at work even though the whole film is [TS]

00:36:14   about we're going to kill this man once [TS]

00:36:15   our friend gets to town the fact that [TS]

00:36:18   they don't think to go after any any of [TS]

00:36:20   those civilians is pretty notable but i [TS]

00:36:22   think they didn't want to commit any [TS]

00:36:23   crimes until everybody got their right [TS]

00:36:24   because they did that was part of why is [TS]

00:36:26   he going to punish them somehow tell [TS]

00:36:28   them they can't attend that will know [TS]

00:36:29   that will give him the ability to lock [TS]

00:36:31   in the impetus to lock him up and then [TS]

00:36:33   it's then there's any you have only has [TS]

00:36:35   to shoot one guy instead for half the [TS]

00:36:37   reason that that Helen Ramirez is [TS]

00:36:39   leaving town is because she's afraid of [TS]

00:36:41   what he's gonna do when he gets back but [TS]

00:36:43   he sees her on the way she's getting on [TS]

00:36:45   the train and does nothing which i think [TS]

00:36:48   is interesting [TS]

00:36:48   she's second on his list state bigger [TS]

00:36:50   fish to fry but do you think maybe [TS]

00:36:52   that's also commentary on the railroad [TS]

00:36:53   is being one of the civilising [TS]

00:36:54   influences that was beyond like the idea [TS]

00:36:57   that the railroad and the infrastructure [TS]

00:36:58   was bigger than the law or anyone town [TS]

00:37:00   and the cloak locks other the Glocks [TS]

00:37:03   well no because that's actually one of [TS]

00:37:05   the big themes in American frontier life [TS]

00:37:07   is the idea that even when you have [TS]

00:37:09   people who try to go to the small to try [TS]

00:37:12   to you know homestead or or start [TS]

00:37:14   civilizations would have them there is [TS]

00:37:15   inevitably some sort of entity whether [TS]

00:37:17   it's the government or some corporation [TS]

00:37:19   or something that ultimately infringes [TS]

00:37:22   on their autonomy and imposes the will [TS]

00:37:24   and i'm not saying that [TS]

00:37:26   High Noon did that explicitly but I [TS]

00:37:27   think it's kind of telling that the the [TS]

00:37:28   train is seen as some sort of Governor [TS]

00:37:31   Burrell authority that shapes people's [TS]

00:37:33   lives [TS]

00:37:34   it's sort of reflects the subconscious [TS]

00:37:35   of recognition that even these tiny [TS]

00:37:38   frontier towns which are perceived as [TS]

00:37:39   being laws into themselves art you know [TS]

00:37:42   they're all part of a vast web that [TS]

00:37:44   somebody else's problem controlling from [TS]

00:37:45   a boardroom back east [TS]

00:37:46   well I actually clocks are synchronized [TS]

00:37:48   the railroads and high noon may have [TS]

00:37:52   just been in this town noon is when the [TS]

00:37:54   train gets there i mean it's it's [TS]

00:37:55   entirely possible but that's true so the [TS]

00:37:57   trip the train is this force of nature [TS]

00:37:59   that's bringing in this this change to [TS]

00:38:01   this town with this guy who got you know [TS]

00:38:04   another comment in this movie is boy the [TS]

00:38:06   laws in Texas stink they like this guys [TS]

00:38:08   coming back [TS]

00:38:10   it's stupid texas which we call that a [TS]

00:38:12   documentary Jason there's also you can [TS]

00:38:15   accuse texted being easy on criminals [TS]

00:38:17   yeah that's true yeah i was impressed [TS]

00:38:19   that this is probably one of the most [TS]

00:38:22   tense films i've seen in quite a long [TS]

00:38:23   time we headed [TS]

00:38:25   it's just very as time is sort of taking [TS]

00:38:27   ever away and and you're slowly [TS]

00:38:29   realizing that no one's gonna come to [TS]

00:38:31   this guy's rescue and you know he's [TS]

00:38:33   getting increasingly worried and sweaty [TS]

00:38:35   and it towards the middle to fill me [TS]

00:38:37   just looking genuinely pants crapping [TS]

00:38:39   Lee terrified which is great that I was [TS]

00:38:43   surprised i mean i don't think i've seen [TS]

00:38:44   a movie this old that really kind of [TS]

00:38:46   ratchet things up for me quite that bad [TS]

00:38:48   it's an expertly written movie and its [TS]

00:38:51   really well shot by by Fred Fred [TS]

00:38:54   Zinnemann yeah it's super compact to [TS]

00:38:56   there's not a minute of it that's wasted [TS]

00:38:57   I mean that every gallery gene is when [TS]

00:38:59   you don't see any dissolves from from [TS]

00:39:01   scene to scene it's all just straight [TS]

00:39:03   cuts which is sort of adds to that the [TS]

00:39:04   speed and the tension I think the fact [TS]

00:39:06   that this is in real-time really helps [TS]

00:39:08   here [TS]

00:39:08   yeah it's it's a masterclass I think and [TS]

00:39:10   how to in how to write a good tense film [TS]

00:39:12   without the extra fat not an acting [TS]

00:39:15   showcase though now we were talking [TS]

00:39:17   about that where it's probably the best [TS]

00:39:19   work Gary Cooper's down but that's not [TS]

00:39:20   saying a lot because this is Gary Cooper [TS]

00:39:22   and his job was really ever to act his [TS]

00:39:23   job was to be stalwart and and and look [TS]

00:39:26   vaguely feeling about things I think [TS]

00:39:28   he's fairly terrific in this though [TS]

00:39:29   because he's called to look pained a lot [TS]

00:39:31   yeah oh yeah no it'sit's right in his [TS]

00:39:33   wheelhouse the character being sad about [TS]

00:39:36   what he has to do but well i like i like [TS]

00:39:38   to the mean one of the themes of this of [TS]

00:39:41   this is I mean we can talk about the [TS]

00:39:43   people in the town being cowardly and [TS]

00:39:47   how hard it is to get a nucleus of [TS]

00:39:49   people together because nobody wants to [TS]

00:39:51   go first but I think also it's the [TS]

00:39:53   alienating nature of being the the law [TS]

00:39:56   on the frontier I think it's a part of [TS]

00:39:59   this to it they're all kind of remove [TS]

00:40:01   from him as the marshal he's he doesn't [TS]

00:40:03   seem like he's one of them he's the guy [TS]

00:40:05   who was the marshal he was kind of their [TS]

00:40:07   town employee for a while and nobody [TS]

00:40:09   really needed to like him and the people [TS]

00:40:11   the person's the fun of all the guys in [TS]

00:40:13   the bar [TS]

00:40:14   yeah the person who didn't like him you [TS]

00:40:15   know she's you know you once she's [TS]

00:40:18   getting out of town at the same time [TS]

00:40:19   right with Helen Ramirez so I think [TS]

00:40:21   that's really interesting that you know [TS]

00:40:23   this is like a guy who is trying to call [TS]

00:40:26   in all his chips at this incredibly [TS]

00:40:27   dramatic time and realizes he has no [TS]

00:40:29   chips he is he just he doesn't nobody [TS]

00:40:32   knows him [TS]

00:40:34   there's the one guy the one guy who's [TS]

00:40:36   like yeah sure I'll stand with you and [TS]

00:40:37   then he comes back at the end and says [TS]

00:40:38   what you didn't get anybody else [TS]

00:40:40   well you know I got a family and that's [TS]

00:40:42   it that's it [TS]

00:40:44   it's a nice it's also nice commentary on [TS]

00:40:45   the selfishness of the public to and [TS]

00:40:47   while you're a public servant service [TS]

00:40:49   yeah you dancing we hate they paid you i [TS]

00:40:52   love that moment where one of the [TS]

00:40:53   townspeople says you what do we pay you [TS]

00:40:55   for all this time [TS]

00:40:57   yeah yeah well I was just I mean that [TS]

00:41:00   that's something you could hear today [TS]

00:41:01   and it's just this amazing amazing [TS]

00:41:03   entitlement that the these people have [TS]

00:41:06   to this guy that it's like you know we [TS]

00:41:07   paid you what do you want from us just [TS]

00:41:09   do you know do whatever do your job [TS]

00:41:11   we're not we're not going to get [TS]

00:41:12   involved and i gave at the office yeah [TS]

00:41:14   yeah yeah yeah man meanwhile the clock [TS]

00:41:17   ticks down no one gave me a hand out it [TS]

00:41:20   does become tense and then ok so then [TS]

00:41:22   we've got the the shootout and and i [TS]

00:41:25   would say it did it delivers like the [TS]

00:41:28   the end of this movie [TS]

00:41:30   there is action and there's like burning [TS]

00:41:32   barnes and jumping on horseback and lots [TS]

00:41:36   of shooting and you know the one thing [TS]

00:41:39   that I knew for sure is that his wife [TS]

00:41:41   would never get involved because she's a [TS]

00:41:42   Quaker and therefore is opposed to [TS]

00:41:45   violence so I knew that she wouldn't be [TS]

00:41:47   involved later if convenience that is [TS]

00:41:50   neat because when they talk about why [TS]

00:41:52   she's a Quaker it's not like while I was [TS]

00:41:54   raised in the SEC know she's a genius is [TS]

00:41:56   a conscientious objector [TS]

00:41:57   yeah it was my brother got shot and so [TS]

00:41:59   as a result I veered to this [TS]

00:42:00   philosophical creed that i'm going to [TS]

00:42:02   discard when my conscience friend lyrics [TS]

00:42:04   up and so I feel like the quicker thing [TS]

00:42:07   is more of a plot complication than [TS]

00:42:08   actual here is a code of non-violence [TS]

00:42:11   and the consequences that that has [TS]

00:42:12   because she she decides she doesn't like [TS]

00:42:15   consequences so she rejects the code you [TS]

00:42:17   have what they did to save her to save [TS]

00:42:19   her husband she does yeah yeah yeah it's [TS]

00:42:22   a nice i mean that's that's I think a I [TS]

00:42:24   mean it's intended as a plot twist like [TS]

00:42:26   she's forced into this corner and she [TS]

00:42:28   needs to do this what twists yes I i [TS]

00:42:30   really love that that sequence so i [TS]

00:42:32   think it's i think it's a lot of fun i [TS]

00:42:33   really like that I like I left like when [TS]

00:42:35   he's in the barn and they throw the [TS]

00:42:37   first thing in and it's like well that [TS]

00:42:39   didn't work and then they throw the next [TS]

00:42:41   thing hits the hay was like oh crap ok i [TS]

00:42:43   got a lot of that a lot of that shoot up [TS]

00:42:46   shootout is filmed from Cannes [TS]

00:42:47   perspective yeah he's trying to find the [TS]

00:42:49   guys where they can they see me oh jeez [TS]

00:42:51   the shoot me now [TS]

00:42:53   wala wrap up here comes a lantern maybe [TS]

00:42:56   i shouldna picked the hayloft I did ya [TS]

00:42:57   bring a lot of shootouts of westerns of [TS]

00:43:00   that era were kind of the the phrase was [TS]

00:43:02   the Chuck and duck shootout where it's [TS]

00:43:04   it's just guys behind barrels with a [TS]

00:43:08   pop-up and shooting each other in that [TS]

00:43:09   and then eventually someone would go you [TS]

00:43:11   got me yeah it a gunfight at the ok [TS]

00:43:14   corral with kirk douglas and Burt [TS]

00:43:17   Lancaster is I I think kind of like this [TS]

00:43:19   like whack-a-mole [TS]

00:43:21   yeah just keep popping up and then [TS]

00:43:22   eventually one of them is gone and the [TS]

00:43:24   game trope the other thing about that [TS]

00:43:25   shootout is I just being versed in the [TS]

00:43:28   standard Western I keep expecting that [TS]

00:43:30   the town's full gonna rally at the last [TS]

00:43:32   minute I know and they don't i like that [TS]

00:43:35   they don't I do too [TS]

00:43:37   oh yeah no it would ruin the film if [TS]

00:43:38   they had me I'd be a bit be a BS message [TS]

00:43:42   and I like Kathy and he throws the [TS]

00:43:43   started yeah alright know the iconic [TS]

00:43:46   endings of West man you people can suck [TS]

00:43:48   it the next comes with that glare at the [TS]

00:43:50   end that's that that's all to come up [TS]

00:43:52   and see me yeah they come out of the end [TS]

00:43:54   they don't come out until it's all said [TS]

00:43:55   and done he drops his tin star and he's [TS]

00:43:59   out of there that's the incision great [TS]

00:44:01   the next day a new marshal is coming and [TS]

00:44:03   he's gonna be really confused however [TS]

00:44:05   when ax ya know ya gonna give him the [TS]

00:44:07   star and the third avoiding his gaze yea [TS]

00:44:10   high noon to the next day would be a [TS]

00:44:11   very interesting movie in 1980 CBS did a [TS]

00:44:16   high noon part to turn god Kane and [TS]

00:44:19   white with guess who [TS]

00:44:22   Lee Majors guys are all came it's all [TS]

00:44:25   coming back to me now like a horrible [TS]

00:44:27   nightmare and if it does well see that's [TS]

00:44:29   like the murder isn't around perhaps I I [TS]

00:44:32   didn't see it at the time because i was [TS]

00:44:33   nine but I watched it a couple years ago [TS]

00:44:36   just because I figured it was gonna be [TS]

00:44:37   awful it's you know like 15 minutes [TS]

00:44:40   longer than the original so of course [TS]

00:44:43   it's going to be good and it's not awful [TS]

00:44:47   I mean it's not very good but I present [TS]

00:44:50   mr. quite awful put that on the DVD [TS]

00:44:53   cover not awful [TS]

00:44:54   maybe it's david Lord the script is by [TS]

00:44:57   Elmore Leonard and if you just if you [TS]

00:45:00   sort of ignore the fact that it's a [TS]

00:45:01   crappy TV movie with nothing good [TS]

00:45:03   actress the script isn't that bad [TS]

00:45:06   soft a grave let this become that this [TS]

00:45:12   decode an infant yeah I i had forgotten [TS]

00:45:14   about the return of well can I do know [TS]

00:45:16   that they did a remake in the nineties [TS]

00:45:19   with tom skerritt in the will can roll [TS]

00:45:21   and it will not know it will not shock [TS]

00:45:24   you to to know that the part of the [TS]

00:45:27   lloyd bridges part of the callow deputy [TS]

00:45:30   was played by read diamond I come on the [TS]

00:45:33   edge from homicide life on the street if [TS]

00:45:35   i want to see a high noon remake i will [TS]

00:45:38   go with Sean Connery and outland yeah [TS]

00:45:41   yes no that was essentially high noon [TS]

00:45:43   which is a pretty good movie actually [TS]

00:45:44   for a you know early 80 sci-fi movie [TS]

00:45:46   it's and it is the the bat the assassins [TS]

00:45:49   are coming on the on the shuttle from [TS]

00:45:50   Jupiter or something and he knows [TS]

00:45:53   they're coming and he's got a very [TS]

00:45:55   limited amount of time to figure out [TS]

00:45:56   what he's going to do before they get [TS]

00:45:57   there it's very much i knew he throws [TS]

00:46:00   his star into the ground but it floats [TS]

00:46:01   up influence away mrs. its base location [TS]

00:46:04   should have known things are going to go [TS]

00:46:05   bad the minute that he realized that [TS]

00:46:07   uncle Billy was in town before we move [TS]

00:46:09   on I want to say how greatly Van Cleef [TS]

00:46:11   is you have lines but he's such a cool [TS]

00:46:13   creepy leering figure that I just know [TS]

00:46:16   he's gonna do something as he never say [TS]

00:46:18   anything that as as as this movie is in [TS]

00:46:20   Gary Cooper's wheelhouse not saying [TS]

00:46:22   anything and looking community is just [TS]

00:46:24   about the van cleef skill set yeah and [TS]

00:46:26   that he opens his mouth and that's the [TS]

00:46:28   end that's why he didn't open his mouth [TS]

00:46:29   yeah exactly rate [TS]

00:46:31   I got to get another drink before we go [TS]

00:46:34   on to the next movie [TS]

00:46:35   yeah i'm going to go out and we get some [TS]

00:46:39   ginger let's uh ok so let's fill what [TS]

00:46:43   was the best picture winner for 1952 [TS]

00:46:47   well Jason and the perfect world it [TS]

00:46:49   would have been high noon I i think we [TS]

00:46:51   can say I yes you know yes I would [TS]

00:46:54   prefer we all we've all rented and raved [TS]

00:46:56   about it but unfortunately it was a [TS]

00:46:58   thinly-veiled allegory for McCarthyism [TS]

00:47:01   which was certain going strong at the [TS]

00:47:02   time and indeed I believe the [TS]

00:47:04   screenwriter was blacklisted you know [TS]

00:47:05   it's time you see what about the time of [TS]

00:47:07   the academy awards coming out so just a [TS]

00:47:10   reminder that artists always stand for [TS]

00:47:12   moral clarity and courage [TS]

00:47:13   remember that's what they tell you every [TS]

00:47:14   year the Academy what about ivanhoe Ivan [TS]

00:47:17   how we didn't watch ivanhoe i did not [TS]

00:47:19   what I have not I have not seen [TS]

00:47:20   Eisenhower I've seen some other movies [TS]

00:47:22   that came out that year the quiet man [TS]

00:47:24   um we already seen all of us subscene of [TS]

00:47:28   lavender I want that you know year [TS]

00:47:30   actually i have not you missed you mean [TS]

00:47:32   you were not on that old movie club when [TS]

00:47:34   you should go watch it's funny [TS]

00:47:35   yeah exactly is the cary grant monkey [TS]

00:47:38   business is this year and i think my [TS]

00:47:40   point is that all of those movies would [TS]

00:47:41   be better than the actual winner of the [TS]

00:47:45   greatest show on earth says will be the [TS]

00:47:48   mill sesame the mill produced produced [TS]

00:47:51   and directed aerated narrated yes [TS]

00:47:54   edited ruined mill doing that over our [TS]

00:47:57   marinara yes that is something that [TS]

00:47:59   accessibility milk as he does the same [TS]

00:48:01   thing in the Ten Commandments to and [TS]

00:48:03   it's every bit as effective there as it [TS]

00:48:06   is here that he was in charge of turning [TS]

00:48:08   the knob to make it more technical is [TS]

00:48:10   sinews of sawdust and blood [TS]

00:48:13   yeah at least at least in the Ten [TS]

00:48:15   Commandments though he's like doing is [TS]

00:48:16   talking about a biblical epic as opposed [TS]

00:48:19   to you and then you go to the circus [TS]

00:48:21   circus clowns any peanuts [TS]

00:48:25   did you ever think of the people who [TS]

00:48:27   rigged the tents spun sugar on paper [TS]

00:48:31   cones [TS]

00:48:32   yeah it was like half documentary half [TS]

00:48:34   yes yeah again that but yeah I wrote [TS]

00:48:37   down that if they hadn't had all that [TS]

00:48:38   stock circus flitted footage and [TS]

00:48:40   overwrought narration this movie would [TS]

00:48:41   have been 10 minutes long yeah and and [TS]

00:48:43   far better so we were trying to [TS]

00:48:45   it out and over the best that I can come [TS]

00:48:47   to get the idea here was people will [TS]

00:48:50   experience the spectacle of the actual [TS]

00:48:52   circus but also behind-the-scenes the [TS]

00:48:55   human drama that occurs and I guess why [TS]

00:48:59   I greater than any trapped is a kind of [TS]

00:49:01   get the idea but then you're just [TS]

00:49:04   watching a crappy circus for 20 minutes [TS]

00:49:08   on end [TS]

00:49:09   you didn't like the Disney parade is [TS]

00:49:11   that what you're saying like Oh with the [TS]

00:49:13   way to run down [TS]

00:49:14   Wikimedia costume like this it's [TS]

00:49:17   generally a pretty good circus as such [TS]

00:49:19   things go except we see it from the [TS]

00:49:21   cheap seats have yes yes he's wide shots [TS]

00:49:23   from way back in the back i actually [TS]

00:49:25   liked a lot of the circus teens better [TS]

00:49:27   than I like the scenes of the [TS]

00:49:28   quote-unquote characters interact and [TS]

00:49:30   well yeah yeah I met Kelly is a hell of [TS]

00:49:32   a clown i watch this documentary on PBS [TS]

00:49:34   a couple years ago called circus which [TS]

00:49:36   was about the big apple circus and [TS]

00:49:38   actually delves into the [TS]

00:49:39   behind-the-scenes stuff and I really [TS]

00:49:43   think whoever made the greatest show on [TS]

00:49:44   earth like all of their instincts were [TS]

00:49:45   completely off maybe just the topic [TS]

00:49:48   matter the narrative structure all of it [TS]

00:49:51   because I who wants to know that clowns [TS]

00:49:53   commit murder or more that that reaction [TS]

00:49:56   actually expected haha its you think [TS]

00:50:00   excuses [TS]

00:50:02   it's just this movie is just a sustained [TS]

00:50:05   marathon and lunacy beginning to end and [TS]

00:50:08   not the the only the argue the one [TS]

00:50:10   argument i can make a favor this movie [TS]

00:50:11   is Gloria Grahame kind of rises above [TS]

00:50:13   the material and I have my love [TS]

00:50:15   everything that she's in oh my god she's [TS]

00:50:17   I was excited to see violet Bick in [TS]

00:50:19   there she actually took the the Best [TS]

00:50:23   Supporting Actress Award away from g [TS]

00:50:25   negin for a different movie of course [TS]

00:50:27   that's right yeah yeah but the bad and [TS]

00:50:29   the beautiful but yeah she won this year [TS]

00:50:30   if if you go to Amazon you can see the [TS]

00:50:33   trailer for the movie which is like a [TS]

00:50:36   six-minute thing of sesame the middle [TS]

00:50:38   talking about the movie and saying we [TS]

00:50:40   traveled 6,000 miles following the [TS]

00:50:43   circus you all the step then he goes [TS]

00:50:45   through you know it's again it's got [TS]

00:50:46   charlton Charlton Heston we call him [TS]

00:50:48   Chuck and you know Gloria Grahame and [TS]

00:50:51   and clowns world-famous clouds and then [TS]

00:50:54   he starts listing the clowns in each [TS]

00:50:55   clan has [TS]

00:50:56   the shot you know just a full head shot [TS]

00:50:58   in the screen and it keeps going it's [TS]

00:51:01   like no one will be seated during the [TS]

00:51:03   dramatic Charlton Heston drives a [TS]

00:51:05   tractor seat is like and john higgins [TS]

00:51:09   and peanuts and you know the rules and [TS]

00:51:12   so much a clown and it well it finally [TS]

00:51:15   gets to and of course Emmett Kelly and [TS]

00:51:18   here's a special crown we want to [TS]

00:51:20   introduce to you [TS]

00:51:21   buttons i bet you can't recognize who [TS]

00:51:23   that is beneath the makeup [TS]

00:51:25   he never takes off that makeup for a [TS]

00:51:27   mysterious reason will remove it you [TS]

00:51:30   know [TS]

00:51:31   oh god you're painting quite the word [TS]

00:51:34   picture there if you weren't scared of [TS]

00:51:37   clowns before seeing the trailer you [TS]

00:51:39   will be actually i have to say i am [TS]

00:51:42   generally scared of clowns but I'm not [TS]

00:51:44   scared of sort of the classic clowns [TS]

00:51:46   because back in those days people still [TS]

00:51:48   like them and thought they were fun and [TS]

00:51:50   funny I don't know where along the line [TS]

00:51:52   constantly became scary but I was [TS]

00:51:54   alright with these ones until this movie [TS]

00:51:56   maybe this was a button says very [TS]

00:51:59   cheerful cheerful clown smile there but [TS]

00:52:01   he's the crying on the inside kind [TS]

00:52:03   things until that Higgins plays a clown [TS]

00:52:06   episode of Magnum where things really [TS]

00:52:08   turned around so look we want to I mean [TS]

00:52:12   what what what there's a so so this is [TS]

00:52:14   as the Ringling Brothers Circus it's [TS]

00:52:16   being run by Charlton Heston he's an [TS]

00:52:18   expert at every aspect of the circus as [TS]

00:52:20   we learned at the very beginning he [TS]

00:52:21   knows he he has sawdust in his veins [TS]

00:52:24   Judas Priest that's right all the tricks [TS]

00:52:26   give the give the elephant's gin and [TS]

00:52:28   ginger a giraffe has a sore throat just [TS]

00:52:30   Rama pool cue down yeah give that [TS]

00:52:32   gorillas some more lettuce and he'll be [TS]

00:52:34   fine [TS]

00:52:35   people say he's circus more often than [TS]

00:52:37   McNulty gets told he's good police you [TS]

00:52:40   know ya got sawdust to his veins i tell [TS]

00:52:44   you i want to be circus and those fake [TS]

00:52:45   circus peanuts he's got those in his [TS]

00:52:47   veins too that's why it's a very sick [TS]

00:52:49   meant anyway he running log he runs the [TS]

00:52:51   Ringling Brothers Barnum base or circus [TS]

00:52:53   and the and the business types wanted to [TS]

00:52:55   reduce show because the economy is not [TS]

00:52:57   very good but he demands that they do a [TS]

00:52:59   full show and they say well okay as long [TS]

00:53:01   as it stays in the black and his his [TS]

00:53:03   great scheme is to bring in the amazing [TS]

00:53:06   Sebastian the great Sebastian but not [TS]

00:53:09   amazing Jason know he's the great [TS]

00:53:11   Sebastian is a decent really what he's [TS]

00:53:13   artists / lothario [TS]

00:53:16   Oh Barry yeah but he's got that he's got [TS]

00:53:20   some good blood wheelers laid by he's [TS]

00:53:22   played by Cornel Wilde and i always want [TS]

00:53:24   to say played by Cornell west which [TS]

00:53:25   would be a totally different than it [TS]

00:53:28   would be under mirror [TS]

00:53:30   yeah I'd watch that movie anyway he's [TS]

00:53:32   got a girl he's got a girlfriend and [TS]

00:53:34   she's a trapeze artist and she's very [TS]

00:53:36   upset because the great Sebastian comes [TS]

00:53:38   in [TS]

00:53:39   ok so can I interrupt here just because [TS]

00:53:41   I'm never really sure if holly is [TS]

00:53:44   actually Brad's girlfriend or if she's [TS]

00:53:47   just kind of declared by Fiat that she [TS]

00:53:48   is inbred hasn't bothered to correct her [TS]

00:53:50   because he certainly doesn't show her [TS]

00:53:52   any any that's because he's a retired [TS]

00:53:55   circus [TS]

00:53:55   yeah he can't show favoritism no he [TS]

00:53:58   can't he's trying to keep the circus [TS]

00:54:00   alive [TS]

00:54:01   the circus is his mistress is dating [TS]

00:54:04   lady circus and just sold a weird [TS]

00:54:07   stalker it's it's it's it's almost like [TS]

00:54:10   she's this unhinged remember him like [TS]

00:54:11   Wayne's World Laura flynn boyle is the [TS]

00:54:13   deranged ex-girlfriend follows waiting [TS]

00:54:15   around like that's kinda / got off of [TS]

00:54:17   Holly following brown around the [TS]

00:54:18   greatest show on earth it's it's it's [TS]

00:54:20   almost like it's over Holly he would [TS]

00:54:23   have said and she's off Brad and then [TS]

00:54:25   you know flung herself around on the [TS]

00:54:27   trampoline song a few songs and it would [TS]

00:54:29   have gone out of her pea brain so she [TS]

00:54:31   really kind of reminded me of sean young [TS]

00:54:32   so yeah stalker you get ya [TS]

00:54:35   not really not really grounded in [TS]

00:54:37   reality the Betty hunter character now [TS]

00:54:39   of course she's not grounded she's [TS]

00:54:41   attractive because she's on ya I want to [TS]

00:54:44   thank everybody hot and really quickly [TS]

00:54:46   and that she at least has shoulders that [TS]

00:54:49   imply she could be a trapeze artist [TS]

00:54:51   yes she did a lot of her own stunts [TS]

00:54:53   actually I learned that in the six and a [TS]

00:54:55   half minute trailer [TS]

00:54:56   she's a great shape a lot of movies [TS]

00:54:59   would just cast East girl and say [TS]

00:55:01   pretend she's a trapeze artist but she [TS]

00:55:04   looks like she could actually do some of [TS]

00:55:06   the thing our character WMC she I think [TS]

00:55:08   this is the first time in history that [TS]

00:55:11   someone has defended and actresses work [TS]

00:55:14   by saying she has the shoulders first [TS]

00:55:16   shoulders [TS]

00:55:18   so she gets kicked out of the center [TS]

00:55:21   ring by the great Sebastian and that [TS]

00:55:23   makes her very upset with Charlton [TS]

00:55:25   Heston but not with the great Sebastian [TS]

00:55:27   who she turned absolutely her affections [TS]

00:55:29   to including the line that was the one [TS]

00:55:32   that Lauren and I had to stop the movie [TS]

00:55:33   for a little bit which is where she says [TS]

00:55:35   the great Sebastian you can hit me if [TS]

00:55:37   you like that it won't change how I feel [TS]

00:55:39   about you [TS]

00:55:40   I wow yeah [TS]

00:55:45   low self-esteem much there oh no it's [TS]

00:55:48   when it's when it's when angel goes to [TS]

00:55:49   make bread coffee inches lol you know do [TS]

00:55:51   you feel like you want to bite someone [TS]

00:55:53   who says yes and you as well pick your [TS]

00:55:54   spot and feel like I'm like codependence [TS]

00:55:57   and the circus freaks they love [TS]

00:55:59   wow there's there's a great moment in [TS]

00:56:02   that scene to where the the wisdom of [TS]

00:56:04   actually hiring circus performers to be [TS]

00:56:06   actors is questioned where Holly yet [TS]

00:56:08   here's yells Tuffy tear down my rigging [TS]

00:56:12   and Tuffy just cheerful as the day is [TS]

00:56:14   long goes ok yeah it almost see the [TS]

00:56:18   thumbs up its off-screen but you can [TS]

00:56:20   totally feel it it's too cold Tuffy love [TS]

00:56:30   that Tuffy now I understand why this [TS]

00:56:32   movie was this picture now me now you [TS]

00:56:34   get it now your job is the glue that [TS]

00:56:36   holds this movie or at least tears its [TS]

00:56:39   ringing okay we missed an important plot [TS]

00:56:48   point here which is that there's a [TS]

00:56:50   there's a shadowy criminal who Charlton [TS]

00:56:53   Heston refuses to let sully the [TS]

00:56:57   reputation of the of the circus played [TS]

00:57:00   by Lawrence Lawrence Durrell back by [TS]

00:57:02   lawrence tyranny of reservoir dogs fame [TS]

00:57:04   yeah yeah and so they he cleans up the [TS]

00:57:06   the Midway there's like thieves out [TS]

00:57:08   there and there's a guy who's robbing [TS]

00:57:09   people in one of the one of the little [TS]

00:57:11   booths and he kicks them out and he's [TS]

00:57:13   like oh I'm gonna get you child neston [TS]

00:57:15   and and in the end they uh.they he [TS]

00:57:19   employs the services of Klaus the [TS]

00:57:21   demented elephant trainer who jealous [TS]

00:57:24   control system because angels [TS]

00:57:26   changed her affection to Charlton Heston [TS]

00:57:28   because EML anyway [TS]

00:57:31   yeah because it's all Sebastian's fault [TS]

00:57:32   totally likes class for his elephants [TS]

00:57:34   there's a lot of Love's lost and [TS]

00:57:37   craziness [TS]

00:57:38   it sounds way more intriguing than it [TS]

00:57:40   actually yeah I'm actually kind of liked [TS]

00:57:42   the story if something this was written [TS]

00:57:44   out as a novel with West circus stuff [TS]

00:57:47   and more character development [TS]

00:57:49   I probably would have enjoyed it is just [TS]

00:57:51   sort of like a fluffy beach read but as [TS]

00:57:54   it was the performances were so bad that [TS]

00:57:56   there's a movie i mean if you said hey [TS]

00:57:58   what if we did a movie that showed you [TS]

00:58:00   backstage at the circus and they're [TS]

00:58:02   surprising drama and there's human you [TS]

00:58:04   know human emotions and and you know all [TS]

00:58:08   this stuff it's gonna be really great [TS]

00:58:09   material I'd be like okay I could see [TS]

00:58:10   that I don't love circuses but I could I [TS]

00:58:12   could totally see that it would not be [TS]

00:58:14   this movie though this would not hear be [TS]

00:58:17   you can't not have the circus [TS]

00:58:19   performances in this film though because [TS]

00:58:20   without that you don't get the best part [TS]

00:58:22   of the movie which is the audience [TS]

00:58:23   reaction shots [TS]

00:58:24   Oh with Bob Hope and Bing Crosby I just [TS]

00:58:29   really wanted ice cream after watching [TS]

00:58:30   all this gravity oh yeah fact I eat ice [TS]

00:58:33   cream [TS]

00:58:33   oh yeah thats why it on the ice cream he [TS]

00:58:36   is riveted and he's got a whole big dome [TS]

00:58:38   of ice cream and he takes like two bites [TS]

00:58:40   and it's gone and it's a kid sitting [TS]

00:58:43   next to him just totally unimpressed [TS]

00:58:45   yeah it's it's funny you should say that [TS]

00:58:47   the the story itself separate from the [TS]

00:58:50   movie would be good [TS]

00:58:52   back in 1952 1953 they actually had [TS]

00:58:55   categories for Best Writing of a story [TS]

00:58:58   and best writing of the actual movie and [TS]

00:59:01   this one food for the best story and the [TS]

00:59:05   best screenplay went to the Lavender [TS]

00:59:07   Hill mob mm go figure [TS]

00:59:10   yes I don't think this is the best story [TS]

00:59:12   of anything I heard but that either but [TS]

00:59:15   it was yeah yeah so anyway the bed that [TS]

00:59:18   the gangster well what else we have your [TS]

00:59:19   own so there's Jimmy Stewart he's the [TS]

00:59:21   clown right buttons a cloud button a [TS]

00:59:24   clown and turns out and fill your fill [TS]

00:59:29   four years has been telling me about [TS]

00:59:30   this movie and I've never seen it [TS]

00:59:32   I made the mistake of agreeing to this [TS]

00:59:34   topic so now I've seen it and the only [TS]

00:59:36   thing I know but she gotta kill the [TS]

00:59:38   things you like that's it only thing I [TS]

00:59:40   knew about this movie yeah you know what [TS]

00:59:42   they say [TS]

00:59:43   who says that buttons who says that [TS]

00:59:45   unless you kill the thing someone who [TS]

00:59:47   killed the 51 mm yeah so that was the [TS]

00:59:51   only thing I knew about this movie was [TS]

00:59:52   was that and at that moment comes and [TS]

00:59:54   I'm like who this is but the clown is [TS]

00:59:57   that yeah sometimes you gotta kill the [TS]

00:59:59   things you love [TS]

00:59:59   things you love [TS]

01:00:00   there's something I think is really cool [TS]

01:00:01   about the buttons story which is that [TS]

01:00:04   even though they never show us buttons [TS]

01:00:06   outside of his makeup we are expected to [TS]

01:00:08   recognize him in the photo right because [TS]

01:00:11   obviously we know that Jimmy Stewart I [TS]

01:00:13   recognized his voice [TS]

01:00:15   so here's a picture of Jimmy Stewart you [TS]

01:00:17   guys know who this is right for all the [TS]

01:00:20   hand holding this movie does this one [TS]

01:00:21   moment that they said hey we don't [TS]

01:00:24   really need to show an offside that make [TS]

01:00:26   that it's jimmy stewart come on [TS]

01:00:27   well at the time he was probably the [TS]

01:00:29   biggest actor in the in the movie [TS]

01:00:32   because this was Charlton Heston's like [TS]

01:00:34   one of his first film's was certainly is [TS]

01:00:36   for starring role and Betty Hutton was [TS]

01:00:39   sort of big at the time but not you come [TS]

01:00:42   off of annie get your gun right brand [TS]

01:00:44   this is this is the best decade for her [TS]

01:00:47   program [TS]

01:00:47   yeah but did Jimmy Stewart who was by [TS]

01:00:50   far the superstar of the movie which is [TS]

01:00:53   why he gets the but the title at the end [TS]

01:00:55   and James Stewart as buttons a clown [TS]

01:00:58   clown SC he apparently agreed to do it [TS]

01:01:01   on the condition that he never took the [TS]

01:01:04   makeup and the makeup off that you'd [TS]

01:01:06   never see his real face seriously and [TS]

01:01:10   that the check cleared before focus on [TS]

01:01:12   him [TS]

01:01:13   I've seen that I think the last I think [TS]

01:01:15   the last 20 minutes of this movie is [TS]

01:01:17   actually not bad [TS]

01:01:18   or at least it's it's like a release [TS]

01:01:20   from the boredom that comes before it [TS]

01:01:23   and and that's the moment where so [TS]

01:01:25   Sebastian falls he he's horribly injured [TS]

01:01:29   teammate Falls roughly two feet into the [TS]

01:01:31   ground to the ground you passed out as [TS]

01:01:33   though he landed on a waterbed strangely [TS]

01:01:35   enough I what I like is how you can see [TS]

01:01:36   that the little canvas for this stunt [TS]

01:01:38   guy and you can see and just gently [TS]

01:01:40   sinking into the mat that's a completely [TS]

01:01:41   different textures generally sinking he [TS]

01:01:43   disappears around a lot of give there in [TS]

01:01:47   that second house hot a few frames [TS]

01:01:49   earlier anyway so Sebastian it turns out [TS]

01:01:52   though buttons the clown notices that [TS]

01:01:54   sebastian has some feeling in his [TS]

01:01:57   extremities and then his kalai and [TS]

01:01:59   buttons is a doctor which is how is able [TS]

01:02:01   to recognize what this is its own FBI [TS]

01:02:03   agents looking for a doctor who killed [TS]

01:02:04   his wife or yeah because he also does [TS]

01:02:06   the doctor had these strange hobby of [TS]

01:02:08   clowning and the only reason we know [TS]

01:02:09   this because Philip I actually stopped [TS]

01:02:11   and red [TS]

01:02:12   the prop newspaper that Betty Hutton is [TS]

01:02:14   reading the fishes [TS]

01:02:15   look here the doctor killed the thing he [TS]

01:02:18   loved well then the FBI band says that [TS]

01:02:22   he always dreamed of growing up and [TS]

01:02:24   leaving and taking all the trainers [TS]

01:02:25   around as you can so on a hunch I'm just [TS]

01:02:27   gonna follow the shortfall of my own [TS]

01:02:29   expense account what the hell right [TS]

01:02:30   exactly [TS]

01:02:31   I'm the only government work can you [TS]

01:02:33   imagine the razzing he got from his [TS]

01:02:34   co-workers like you know they're busy [TS]

01:02:36   busting speakeasies or-or-or [TS]

01:02:39   segregationists or whatever and they're [TS]

01:02:41   like how is the clown detail going buddy [TS]

01:02:43   looks like the reporter in the in the [TS]

01:02:45   incredible hulk TV series he was on the [TS]

01:02:47   Hulk beat ya he was not well regarded [TS]

01:02:50   his paper it's just expense account [TS]

01:02:52   abuse is what's happening both of these [TS]

01:02:53   cases to get on the train and there's an [TS]

01:02:57   end a scene with between Charlton Heston [TS]

01:02:59   and James Stewart where where he [TS]

01:03:01   basically discovers that he has medical [TS]

01:03:03   knowledge and points out that there is a [TS]

01:03:05   an FBI guy who's going to be looking for [TS]

01:03:07   for taking fingerprints so you might [TS]

01:03:09   want to make himself scarce however [TS]

01:03:11   ar-ar-ar villainous underworld thug has [TS]

01:03:15   has a headset is the developer who do [TS]

01:03:20   just teamed with Klaus the same blouse [TS]

01:03:23   decision he and clouds like set the [TS]

01:03:25   rigging on the on the train so the net [TS]

01:03:27   raise that there are two trains there's [TS]

01:03:29   the the train that has all the equipment [TS]

01:03:31   on it and then there's the follow train [TS]

01:03:33   yeah and this is more thought than [TS]

01:03:35   anyone has ever given this so I [TS]

01:03:37   apologize in advance so they stopped the [TS]

01:03:39   early train because that has all the [TS]

01:03:40   money and they're going to Robert and no [TS]

01:03:41   that's gonna that's gonna get Charlton [TS]

01:03:43   Heston where it hurts accept that excuse [TS]

01:03:46   geniuses didn't account for the fact [TS]

01:03:48   that the other train would be right [TS]

01:03:50   behind shortly and what happens is that [TS]

01:03:54   a train wreck of a movie becomes a [TS]

01:03:56   little tree is the first time I've ever [TS]

01:03:58   seen a train wreck inside another train [TS]

01:04:00   wreck which i will give that there is [TS]

01:04:02   that wonderful moment where you're [TS]

01:04:03   looking on [TS]

01:04:04   there's the actual trade wreck their [TS]

01:04:05   this yes you're overlooking the [TS]

01:04:07   important moment where Klaus realizes [TS]

01:04:09   that his beloved what's her name is Joe [TS]

01:04:12   only screams at 20,000 times in the [TS]

01:04:15   movie Monty yeah so he has to save her [TS]

01:04:18   and doesn't my driving the car directly [TS]

01:04:19   at all yeah the rocket scientist [TS]

01:04:22   payments on that turn and [TS]

01:04:24   angel hasn't spent most of the her [TS]

01:04:26   circus going life moving about the US [TS]

01:04:28   entry and here's the thing that the [TS]

01:04:30   money is exactly right [TS]

01:04:31   his instinct to stop the trade is to [TS]

01:04:34   drive his truck right in front of the [TS]

01:04:36   Train and wave hit anyway dramatically [TS]

01:04:39   oh I can't you see the lights [TS]

01:04:42   why you're not stopping horrible train [TS]

01:04:44   crash happens that car gets flipped good [TS]

01:04:47   to the Lions all escape but it does lead [TS]

01:04:51   to my favorite shot at the end of the [TS]

01:04:52   movie which has just closest boot [TS]

01:04:54   sticking up from the record and a [TS]

01:04:56   monkey's ER doctor already know for him [TS]

01:04:59   over his ill-gotten money because it's a [TS]

01:05:00   big stack of money next to his boots to [TS]

01:05:02   death with dignity [TS]

01:05:04   the monkeys are counting now angel is [TS]

01:05:10   the best part of this movie so anyway [TS]

01:05:11   that the beauties but the doctors [TS]

01:05:13   knocked out the circus dr. Charlton [TS]

01:05:15   Heston is is believed that wounded and [TS]

01:05:18   bleeding out all the while continuing to [TS]

01:05:20   bark orders about how to handle he knows [TS]

01:05:23   how to handle a train crash and save the [TS]

01:05:26   circus which is really really terrible [TS]

01:05:28   at delegating Authority because the next [TS]

01:05:29   train that's undoubtedly coming along a [TS]

01:05:31   few hours from now is not to be [TS]

01:05:33   concerned but no no no we have to make [TS]

01:05:35   the show the show must go on show must [TS]

01:05:37   go on so he as he's bleeding out he's [TS]

01:05:39   giving these orders and and but the [TS]

01:05:42   doctor is knocked out so who's going to [TS]

01:05:45   save him and he's gonna need a blood [TS]

01:05:47   transfusion and it turns out that that i [TS]

01:05:49   can raise a clown the great Sebastian [TS]

01:05:51   has the right blood type and buttons a [TS]

01:05:54   clown is dr. and reveals himself there [TS]

01:05:59   by doing himself to going to prison in [TS]

01:06:01   order to save charlton well he reveals [TS]

01:06:03   himself only after only after Holly begs [TS]

01:06:05   him and MPs reasons that pass beyond [TS]

01:06:08   understanding in any form [TS]

01:06:10   he's a sucker for Holly I mean God knows [TS]

01:06:13   why because she spends the entire movie [TS]

01:06:14   hysterically proclaiming all of her [TS]

01:06:17   wants and needs to anyone within [TS]

01:06:18   striking distance and yet was cool of [TS]

01:06:20   course Holly maybe her voices in the [TS]

01:06:22   exact frequency response to like a dog [TS]

01:06:24   whistle guys it's because he wants to [TS]

01:06:26   kill her [TS]

01:06:27   yeah you are [TS]

01:06:28   did they really really like the great [TS]

01:06:31   Sebastian's attitude during the blood [TS]

01:06:33   transfer yeah oh yeah where he he's not [TS]

01:06:35   gonna be lucky with the ladies now it's [TS]

01:06:37   being Noble and donating his blood to [TS]

01:06:42   his romantic rival out of spite and he's [TS]

01:06:44   still saying things like when you have [TS]

01:06:46   babies [TS]

01:06:47   now let me be me looking up into your [TS]

01:06:49   left yeah he didn't turn it off [TS]

01:06:54   I don't know about yeah i know i thought [TS]

01:06:56   that i actually think we train wreck and [TS]

01:06:58   thereafter is actually really great it's [TS]

01:07:00   just that you've got to go two hours and [TS]

01:07:01   20 minutes to get there [TS]

01:07:03   yeah it's it's the longest episode of [TS]

01:07:06   The Fugitive ever [TS]

01:07:08   yeah it's so anyway the FBI man shakes [TS]

01:07:11   buttons a clown's hand and then put the [TS]

01:07:14   cuffs on and takes away and what did [TS]

01:07:17   dark ending for that character I mean he [TS]

01:07:20   was like the heart of the film for my [TS]

01:07:22   way through i was just like i love sighs [TS]

01:07:24   which do you know what they do to do [TS]

01:07:25   this in clown makeup in the state pen do [TS]

01:07:27   you suppose they strapped in the [TS]

01:07:28   electric chair he's got his clown makeup [TS]

01:07:30   on but i think what they do to child [TS]

01:07:32   molesters is bad you should see how they [TS]

01:07:33   treat guys who show up in greasepaint [TS]

01:07:35   let me put on a show they put him in a [TS]

01:07:36   really crowded cell with a whole bunch [TS]

01:07:38   of other clans it's a much more [TS]

01:07:42   enjoyable movie if you view it as the [TS]

01:07:45   the origin story for Pennywise the clown [TS]

01:07:47   from we kill the things we love down [TS]

01:07:51   here down here at all for doubts hopple [TS]

01:07:56   so i think i think that isn't child has [TS]

01:07:59   to Charlton Heston is a hoping that the [TS]

01:08:01   show go on but this terrible thing and [TS]

01:08:03   and and all wrapped up here eei he [TS]

01:08:05   attempts to the tents gone they put up [TS]

01:08:07   the flag pole for the tent but there's [TS]

01:08:09   no tent and what's going to do how can [TS]

01:08:11   you be a circus without a tent but they [TS]

01:08:12   still have the stands in the whole town [TS]

01:08:14   that they're going to comes and watches [TS]

01:08:16   the circus with presumably like the you [TS]

01:08:19   know the bear with the broken arm and [TS]

01:08:21   the Lions who ate some of the elephants [TS]

01:08:24   and all the monkeys we could catch the [TS]

01:08:26   entire town came to the circus peak us [TS]

01:08:29   it was either that or they had to help [TS]

01:08:30   the town marshal with the with a guy who [TS]

01:08:33   was coming back on the train [TS]

01:08:34   actually the recent at the town came to [TS]

01:08:36   the circus is because they were fleeing [TS]

01:08:38   the liens that are running [TS]

01:08:40   they were going to sell tickets to see [TS]

01:08:44   the train wreck which i think is a [TS]

01:08:45   pretty good idea for 1951 I hear the [TS]

01:08:49   train wrecks are fascinating and you [TS]

01:08:50   can't look away look away yeah well I [TS]

01:08:52   watching all two hours and 33 minutes of [TS]

01:08:54   this movie and proof of that [TS]

01:08:55   oh ok here's my here's my review of the [TS]

01:08:58   greatest greatest show on earth [TS]

01:08:59   you guys can tell me if this equates [TS]

01:09:01   with you it's so bad in so many [TS]

01:09:03   different ways i would say it's one of [TS]

01:09:06   its it's one of the worst prestigious [TS]

01:09:08   movies every day i'll say that yes I've [TS]

01:09:10   seen Frankenstein island [TS]

01:09:12   I you know I've seen many terrible mst3k [TS]

01:09:14   movies pound-for-pound this movie has [TS]

01:09:17   stars and a budget and sisal B DeMille [TS]

01:09:21   and won the Academy Award and it's bad i [TS]

01:09:24   mean it's it's like painful bat like [TS]

01:09:26   steve was it got me very excited when he [TS]

01:09:28   was talking about how he was sort of [TS]

01:09:29   mst3k through the first 15 minutes and i [TS]

01:09:32   watch the first 15 minutes I was like [TS]

01:09:33   yeah I can see that [TS]

01:09:34   well you know after about an hour i was [TS]

01:09:36   like no no the reason that rifftrax [TS]

01:09:38   hasn't done this movie is that you can't [TS]

01:09:40   go back about more than 40 minutes in [TS]

01:09:42   before you have to shut it off and walk [TS]

01:09:43   away [TS]

01:09:44   it's not unlike Batman and Robin in that [TS]

01:09:46   respect we manage that one [TS]

01:09:47   Lisa and I've always talked about doing [TS]

01:09:50   that with ten commandments which is [TS]

01:09:51   another sessle bj movie except it's like [TS]

01:09:53   foot four hours long i want to say it [TS]

01:09:57   probably easily cut out an hour and a [TS]

01:09:58   half and also you will go to hell I I do [TS]

01:10:01   it every year on Twitter and and I did [TS]

01:10:03   it years and years before that it's just [TS]

01:10:05   there was my Easter tradition just do [TS]

01:10:07   the 10 commandments it's wonderful that [TS]

01:10:09   the problem with trying to rip this [TS]

01:10:10   movie is because is that you'll run to [TS]

01:10:12   the interminable circus scenes and [TS]

01:10:15   there's only so many things you can say [TS]

01:10:16   about oh look it's another stupid clown [TS]

01:10:18   look Dorothy Lamour is singing her [TS]

01:10:20   contract early mandated song [TS]

01:10:22   yeah the disney parade was stupid and [TS]

01:10:24   the disney parade just keeps being [TS]

01:10:25   stupid and no let's set that what they [TS]

01:10:28   do the Marie Antoinette parade part that [TS]

01:10:30   I yeah baffling and confusing like I I [TS]

01:10:33   was like two people really want to see [TS]

01:10:34   what was that I enjoy the the two women [TS]

01:10:39   sitting in the little car waving and [TS]

01:10:42   smiling to the crowd while they say [TS]

01:10:43   horribly caddy things to 12 and Holly [TS]

01:10:46   yeah what the one thing I shame as you [TS]

01:10:48   this favor is that it has the most [TS]

01:10:50   delightfully caddy dialogue [TS]

01:10:52   you will ever find in a motion picture [TS]

01:10:54   it outside of say the women or uh which [TS]

01:10:58   we should watch for the officer watch ya [TS]

01:11:00   the money it is Oscar it's like you're [TS]

01:11:03   nervous a tooth there's just a lot of [TS]

01:11:05   backbiting and always a global circus [TS]

01:11:07   people you know [TS]

01:11:08   yeah no angels angels great she just [TS]

01:11:10   keeps swinging just keep swinging the [TS]

01:11:11   lines left right and Slattery rolls [TS]

01:11:13   right off me call it tight [TS]

01:11:16   although she does have the absolute [TS]

01:11:17   worst come online i think i have ever [TS]

01:11:20   heard in form of I used to fill my dad's [TS]

01:11:23   pie piya o let's get to me that like [TS]

01:11:25   kind of like my closest you get to be [TS]

01:11:27   speaking some horrible abusive past that [TS]

01:11:29   she ran away from and she's like a super [TS]

01:11:31   circus is better than this horrible [TS]

01:11:33   Truman Capote gothic small-town [TS]

01:11:35   nightmare i'm living [TS]

01:11:36   yes Steve that's her that's remove is is [TS]

01:11:38   yeah she could fill a pipe but we're [TS]

01:11:41   going to make it really set the mood I [TS]

01:11:42   thought [TS]

01:11:43   except for Charlotte intestine didn't [TS]

01:11:45   think a woman could know we didn't if [TS]

01:11:47   you know what he likes didn't even know [TS]

01:11:49   I don't [TS]

01:11:50   the only thing that will keep me warm as [TS]

01:11:51   if I'm wrapped in a marriage license why [TS]

01:11:53   not it would be something new [TS]

01:11:55   yes it's perfect look it actually in the [TS]

01:11:58   war I Drive a tank is probably a better [TS]

01:12:01   come on them to tell my dad that is a [TS]

01:12:03   good come on there's a steal [TS]

01:12:05   steven spielberg influence with this [TS]

01:12:07   movie because this was apparently the [TS]

01:12:08   first movie I ever watched over remember [TS]

01:12:10   going to see ya horse uh Charlton [TS]

01:12:13   Heston's look with the fedora cap and [TS]

01:12:15   the and the leather jacket very [TS]

01:12:17   reminiscent of the of another steven [TS]

01:12:19   spielberg character Oskar Schindler all [TS]

01:12:22   this bug-eyed reaction shots that he [TS]

01:12:24   loves so much are just people watching [TS]

01:12:25   the greatest show on earth [TS]

01:12:26   yeah that's his direction every time [TS]

01:12:29   lookup I'm gonna put this light on you [TS]

01:12:31   imagine you're watching the greatest [TS]

01:12:33   show ever mention the circus and [TS]

01:12:35   actually as I was watching the train [TS]

01:12:36   crash I was like well super 8 was better [TS]

01:12:39   but in the future I am you know train [TS]

01:12:41   crash was actually not bad [TS]

01:12:43   yeah yeah I was I mean you could tell [TS]

01:12:44   that they were little train cars but no [TS]

01:12:47   it was just it was a the last 20 minutes [TS]

01:12:50   of this like I said I I i have no issues [TS]

01:12:53   with that because that was when all of [TS]

01:12:54   the it's ago now we need to end our [TS]

01:12:56   story so now it's like to be steward and [TS]

01:12:58   the doctor and the FBI guys on the train [TS]

01:13:00   and they're they're gonna plot in this [TS]

01:13:02   but elephant handler and he's very angry [TS]

01:13:03   and there's that you know and it all bit [TS]

01:13:06   pays off and then somebody's gotta save [TS]

01:13:08   Charlton Heston that all you know that [TS]

01:13:10   all was a quite watchable I just you [TS]

01:13:13   know I must admit I I recognize that [TS]

01:13:15   this is a terrible terrible terrible [TS]

01:13:16   film but I i quite enjoyed it [TS]

01:13:20   oh that's sort of wrap around the good [TS]

01:13:22   way yeah I enjoyed it too [TS]

01:13:24   it might just be because I like terrible [TS]

01:13:26   movies about circuses I like the Elvis [TS]

01:13:28   movie roustabout and yellow face that's [TS]

01:13:30   not a circus that's a carnival mr. quite [TS]

01:13:35   close and I we're gonna have a circus [TS]

01:13:36   cardiff right this is great [TS]

01:13:38   oh we're not there 10 shots okay and [TS]

01:13:41   he's out the dancing fight was bad you [TS]

01:13:43   know i didn't i didn't hate this movie I [TS]

01:13:45   I never ever ever want to have to watch [TS]

01:13:48   it again but i'm very glad that I saw it [TS]

01:13:51   oh yeah it's a badge of honor just have [TS]

01:13:53   seen it at the very least [TS]

01:13:55   yeah and I mean I liked I like I said I [TS]

01:13:57   i quite liked the story I just hated all [TS]

01:13:59   the characters except for buttons whom I [TS]

01:14:01   like a clown and then yeah an angel [TS]

01:14:04   angel was also good to yes he was there [TS]

01:14:06   are a couple of shots in the movie i [TS]

01:14:08   thought were actually pretty cool [TS]

01:14:10   there's one I can't remember where it [TS]

01:14:11   happens in the movie which is probably a [TS]

01:14:13   problem but they're outside the tent [TS]

01:14:14   arguing about something but the big wall [TS]

01:14:18   of the tent is open and you can see the [TS]

01:14:19   circus going on behind them [TS]

01:14:21   I thought circus makes a good backdrop [TS]

01:14:24   to a movie [TS]

01:14:26   I feel like this entire film was filmed [TS]

01:14:27   in one take you've got you've got circus [TS]

01:14:31   performers were clearly flooding their [TS]

01:14:32   lines you've got the shot of the kid in [TS]

01:14:36   the audience digging into his nose [TS]

01:14:38   detect very sure that you intend to [TS]

01:14:40   capture bad guys with your screw it just [TS]

01:14:43   it just the whole thing seems like it [TS]

01:14:44   was just thrown together [TS]

01:14:45   oh you know the one scene where she's [TS]

01:14:48   doing the flips around she's trying to [TS]

01:14:51   set a world record in the audience is [TS]

01:14:52   counting along with her [TS]

01:14:54   yeah yeah no I forgotten about that [TS]

01:14:56   15-minute seed I would be pretty bored [TS]

01:14:58   sitting in a circus tent counting to a [TS]

01:14:59   hundred i was impressed that the crowd [TS]

01:15:02   as a whole [TS]

01:15:03   could could do like a hundred 200 300 [TS]

01:15:06   for those actors lots of syllables for [TS]

01:15:08   them to keep in unison and they managed [TS]

01:15:10   to do it [TS]

01:15:11   this was before fun was invented that [TS]

01:15:14   was fun you guys [TS]

01:15:15   haha [TS]

01:15:16   I like how Charlton Heston runs in and [TS]

01:15:19   you know is the killjoy and lowers her [TS]

01:15:21   down and she's so furious that he's [TS]

01:15:23   lowering her on her first sad now it's [TS]

01:15:26   like sad little rope tip to be fair he [TS]

01:15:28   does have clowns running around [TS]

01:15:30   underneath her like they're gonna catch [TS]

01:15:32   that just showbiz aspect of it is the [TS]

01:15:35   most of the people in the crowd liked [TS]

01:15:37   was that supposed to happen i guess [TS]

01:15:38   there are clouds yeah i'm getting again [TS]

01:15:41   not exactly a Death with Dignity when [TS]

01:15:43   they're not misunderstand little fool [TS]

01:15:47   only buttons can bring true death [TS]

01:15:50   dignity [TS]

01:15:52   he's the only climb with dignity don't [TS]

01:15:54   worry folks once we fished her out of [TS]

01:15:56   the water but she'll be fine [TS]

01:15:58   yeah Emmett Kelly's really kind of a [TS]

01:16:00   depressing clown [TS]

01:16:01   yes essentials great ukulele bit kind of [TS]

01:16:04   his stick [TS]

01:16:05   he appears without his makeup he appears [TS]

01:16:07   without his makeup in the movie there's [TS]

01:16:09   a very brief scene where he's like I [TS]

01:16:11   think it's on the train wreck where his [TS]

01:16:14   his face paint which he very rarely [TS]

01:16:16   allowed himself to be photographed doing [TS]

01:16:18   but apparently thought so much of this [TS]

01:16:19   movie that he guys this is it this is [TS]

01:16:22   what i'm going to do it because we will [TS]

01:16:24   finally bring dignity to my profession [TS]

01:16:26   the movie I've always wanted to make and [TS]

01:16:28   makeup for Jimmy Stewart never taking [TS]

01:16:30   his office but it's ready to clown world [TS]

01:16:32   has to balance out clown karma this will [TS]

01:16:35   be my legacy this in the velvet painting [TS]

01:16:37   have to admit that Emmett Kelly actually [TS]

01:16:38   raised a smile once or twice which is [TS]

01:16:41   more than I can say for any other clown [TS]

01:16:43   ever [TS]

01:16:44   well yeah yeah it was a movie yeah sort [TS]

01:16:49   of i think you'll probably spend longer [TS]

01:16:51   editing this podcast then they did [TS]

01:16:52   editing this but i guess i devoted for [TS]

01:16:56   high noon [TS]

01:16:56   yeah if you really can't be awarded [TS]

01:16:58   better I don't even like westerns and i [TS]

01:17:00   still would have voted for hanging yeah [TS]

01:17:01   that wasn't a Western though it was it [TS]

01:17:03   was a human drama within Western [TS]

01:17:06   backdrop yeah it'sit's don't Western [TS]

01:17:08   almost westerns were just kids [TS]

01:17:10   shoot-'em-ups this was about man mature [TS]

01:17:13   decisions [TS]

01:17:14   ok then I don't like movies with Western [TS]

01:17:16   backdrops but they still have taken ok [TS]

01:17:18   not forsake merica and so I don't like [TS]

01:17:23   movies set in california i always need a [TS]

01:17:25   drink of water i don't like I don't like [TS]

01:17:26   movies near deserts I like movies that [TS]

01:17:29   were shot where I grew [TS]

01:17:30   so you know pretty much of its high noon [TS]

01:17:31   or back to the future part 3 i'm sure i [TS]

01:17:34   grew up not too far from the source of [TS]

01:17:36   the Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey [TS]

01:17:38   Circus so i can't i have to say that no [TS]

01:17:41   just because I grew up close to they're [TS]

01:17:42   still in saying that one yeah no you [TS]

01:17:45   don't need to take credit for the no one [TS]

01:17:47   needs to take any more credit [TS]

01:17:49   I apologize for showing her and I [TS]

01:17:51   apologize from mccarthyism while I'm at [TS]

01:17:53   it I'm sorry behalf of Wisconsin I [TS]

01:17:56   apologize [TS]

01:17:57   how much of this movie was just financed [TS]

01:17:59   by the Ringling Brothers the whole thing [TS]

01:18:00   is like an ad for them so um yeah really [TS]

01:18:03   and John and John Ringling north appears [TS]

01:18:05   in it he does as himself as himself what [TS]

01:18:09   range it's strangely they actually feel [TS]

01:18:11   that he's got enough name recognition [TS]

01:18:12   that they have Charlton Heston saying [TS]

01:18:14   get me John north [TS]

01:18:15   well this is a docudrama this all really [TS]

01:18:17   happened [TS]

01:18:18   it's just you know it's a recreation of [TS]

01:18:21   the great train circus train wreck of [TS]

01:18:23   1948 right all of the people who [TS]

01:18:25   survived and were eaten by the lion it's [TS]

01:18:28   a their City told their stories and [TS]

01:18:31   lived to tell their thai really that is [TS]

01:18:32   the moment that like that I keep coming [TS]

01:18:34   back to is that they they have like [TS]

01:18:35   there's the lions are like jumping out [TS]

01:18:37   of their cages that one line the kind of [TS]

01:18:39   struggles to get out of the cage looks [TS]

01:18:40   kind of like my cat if you know he's [TS]

01:18:42   trying he's trying to get up on the [TS]

01:18:43   couch and he's very old neighbors like [TS]

01:18:45   Kelly come online you can get out there [TS]

01:18:47   and I'm thinking what happens now that [TS]

01:18:49   there's probably like because he says [TS]

01:18:51   check out the guerrillas my glass [TS]

01:18:52   probably shattered and I'm imagining [TS]

01:18:54   like gorillas with shards of glass and [TS]

01:18:57   meanwhile the lions are always pieces [TS]

01:18:59   incontinent gorillas incidentally [TS]

01:19:01   because they need enough lettuce yeah [TS]

01:19:02   the good clients around the sink honest [TS]

01:19:05   which is blocked up those poor straining [TS]

01:19:07   girl is are now sitting on the shards [TS]

01:19:09   and elephants all lit up on gin the fat [TS]

01:19:15   guy who had to hang out with the hippo [TS]

01:19:17   because he couldn't fit on any other [TS]

01:19:18   part of my god that was the one [TS]

01:19:20   pissed-off giraffe shattering all the [TS]

01:19:22   pool cues in the local pool hall yeah [TS]

01:19:24   they said the fact that would be with a [TS]

01:19:25   hypocrite make me ride with this ship [TS]

01:19:27   all it seems weird that they didn't have [TS]

01:19:29   a plan for that they've always got a guy [TS]

01:19:31   whose entire actors he's pretty fat [TS]

01:19:33   that's a good line though agenda [TS]

01:19:35   elephants just who's nate pink humans [TS]

01:19:41   ladies thank you i liked the bit where [TS]

01:19:43   somebody asks Dorothy Lamour who's that [TS]

01:19:45   and she responds oh that's the china and [TS]

01:19:47   the fat boy [TS]

01:19:48   just so you know that was that was also [TS]

01:19:50   CBS drama in the nineteen eighties [TS]

01:19:51   children in the fifth [TS]

01:19:53   anybody want to wager as to what the [TS]

01:19:55   Academy was smoking when they came up [TS]

01:19:57   with this as the best picture circus [TS]

01:19:59   peanuts and probably really expensive [TS]

01:20:00   cigars provided by Cecil B DeMille I [TS]

01:20:05   think it just felt really big it's a [TS]

01:20:06   long movie it's super Technicolor it's [TS]

01:20:09   got animals and it just feels epic i [TS]

01:20:11   think that was the Oscar bait of the day [TS]

01:20:14   like it now it's certainly not this type [TS]

01:20:16   of filming here back then the giant [TS]

01:20:18   extravaganza it's a spectacle thing you [TS]

01:20:20   know now it's movies that nobody saw but [TS]

01:20:22   had their hearts in the right place [TS]

01:20:23   quality aside this is the movie it's [TS]

01:20:25   like you will be in the circus and you [TS]

01:20:27   will see the whole circus and the [TS]

01:20:29   stories around the circus I mean I get [TS]

01:20:31   it [TS]

01:20:31   it is a big idea yeah which raises the [TS]

01:20:34   question of why I would want to do that [TS]

01:20:35   trainwreck was in innovative for its [TS]

01:20:37   time the the shooting of them [TS]

01:20:39   it's not often you can make a toy model [TS]

01:20:41   look that spectacularly but mostly they [TS]

01:20:43   were smoking the we don't want we don't [TS]

01:20:45   want the house and American Activities [TS]

01:20:47   Committee to come out let's give the [TS]

01:20:49   statute to the nice old man who makes [TS]

01:20:51   circus movies [TS]

01:20:52   yes a couple years later the winner was [TS]

01:20:54   around the world in 80 days which is [TS]

01:20:56   also not a very good movie that is [TS]

01:20:58   certainly Technicolor and spectacular [TS]

01:21:01   and and a quick cast of thousands you [TS]

01:21:03   like the fact that their vote against [TS]

01:21:04   High Noon kind of makes the whole point [TS]

01:21:06   of that film [TS]

01:21:07   yeah yeah yeah we're not standing with [TS]

01:21:09   him either [TS]

01:21:10   how about that yeah he should've left [TS]

01:21:13   shouldn't have been a movie no irony [TS]

01:21:15   here [TS]

01:21:17   alright I Phil what it would say you [TS]

01:21:20   have we have we covered this topic to [TS]

01:21:23   your satisfaction i think i think it is [TS]

01:21:24   done and dusted I think we have said [TS]

01:21:26   more words about the greatest show on [TS]

01:21:28   earth in it then it merits and I that I [TS]

01:21:30   can only hope that we have stoked [TS]

01:21:32   people's interest in watching the other [TS]

01:21:34   two movies which are very good yes and [TS]

01:21:38   very peppy and on evening well spent i [TS]

01:21:41   agree with that and if we have brought [TS]

01:21:42   just a little joy into your otherwise [TS]

01:21:44   humdrum lives we know all our hard work [TS]

01:21:47   it been in vain for nothing as the [TS]

01:21:50   trailer for the greatest show on earth [TS]

01:21:51   said I think this podcast is quote [TS]

01:21:53   unquote [TS]

01:21:54   for the happiness of the world yeah wow [TS]

01:21:58   yeah wow so what you're saying is this [TS]

01:22:01   podcast is the greatest show on earth [TS]

01:22:02   that is that what I think but the [TS]

01:22:05   transitive property yes indeed [TS]

01:22:07   I'm all raised me into the air again [TS]

01:22:09   because you are circus m2 and [TS]

01:22:13   comfortable the greatest podcast on [TS]

01:22:15   earth the tiger podcast running through [TS]

01:22:17   my veins you not forsake me oh my [TS]

01:22:19   darling didn't do i have to say i have [TS]

01:22:26   not taken off my clown makeup is I'm [TS]

01:22:30   sorry that you played music throughout [TS]

01:22:31   things when they were coming to a close [TS]

01:22:33   David feed those gorillas Phil not [TS]

01:22:36   forsake me or my podcast got a tight you [TS]

01:22:39   gotta tighten up the Riggin over there [TS]

01:22:41   Lisa those uh those monkeys [TS]

01:22:43   I need some lettuce and sugar i only [TS]

01:22:47   like you for your elephant is the ginned [TS]

01:22:52   up my clown face will be the last thing [TS]

01:22:56   you see before you die [TS]

01:22:58   haha sometimes you gotta kill the things [TS]

01:23:04   you love film i just realized something [TS]

01:23:09   you know you know why Holly wasn't [TS]

01:23:10   concerned about being killed by buttons [TS]

01:23:12   a clown what because clowns are funny [TS]

01:23:14   people they only love once that's [TS]

01:23:17   righted that's true that is actually the [TS]

01:23:20   only funny thing about clouds all right [TS]

01:23:24   we're gonna close up the old movie club [TS]

01:23:26   1952 I think we rated rated the wrong of [TS]

01:23:30   the Oscars now take that Senator [TS]

01:23:32   McCarthy that's right [TS]

01:23:34   Hollywood Hollywood fat cat sitting in [TS]

01:23:38   their homes i like to imagine this kid [TS]

01:23:40   coming home saying mom I got arrested he [TS]

01:23:42   gave me a puppy can I keep it all part [TS]

01:23:49   of the greatest show on earth to board [TS]

01:23:52   the greater show on earth when the Lions [TS]

01:23:54   came to live in our town the greatest [TS]

01:23:56   show on the move [TS]

01:23:57   so what we'll wrap up old movie club [TS]

01:24:02   here i wonder what field will have for [TS]

01:24:04   us next time i'm a little scared after [TS]

01:24:06   this this go-round but again we got we [TS]

01:24:08   saw again like we did last time to good [TS]

01:24:09   movies and then we also saw nothing that [TS]

01:24:13   was that was fun and it's so weird maybe [TS]

01:24:16   it's a 667 average and that would get [TS]

01:24:18   you into the Hall of Fame like that [TS]

01:24:20   yeah it's a hall-of-fame kind of thing [TS]

01:24:22   definitely [TS]

01:24:23   alright i would like to thank my guess [TS]

01:24:24   for for participating in the silliness [TS]

01:24:27   and watching these movies which was a [TS]

01:24:29   lot of fun [TS]

01:24:30   Monty Ashley thank you for being here ok [TS]

01:24:32   David Laura thank you insert claim joke [TS]

01:24:39   here [TS]

01:24:39   Oh fair enough Steve what's thank you [TS]

01:24:42   it's all for nothing Jason it's all [TS]

01:24:45   Erica and sign thanks for coming back [TS]

01:24:52   thank you you know i just wish that [TS]

01:24:54   podcast guest appearances paid because [TS]

01:24:56   then i'd make more money than Calvin [TS]

01:24:58   Coolidge put together [TS]

01:25:00   Oh what am I dama some moisturizer you [TS]

01:25:08   did Lina Lamont in our radio drama you [TS]

01:25:11   basically did that voice I did yes thank [TS]

01:25:13   you for being here if he should thank me [TS]

01:25:16   for not document lil mama hope I yeah I [TS]

01:25:18   stands and you know she actually does [TS]

01:25:24   get better at talking throughout that [TS]

01:25:25   movie like she does issues rounded vowel [TS]

01:25:28   she just can't change your voice I think [TS]

01:25:30   that's a great time around low tools and [TS]

01:25:34   that leaves five so goodbye to everybody [TS]

01:25:36   except for Michaels fill at earlier on [TS]

01:25:38   you said that you would be in my Posse [TS]

01:25:40   and stop these guys when the train comes [TS]

01:25:42   but I couldn't get anybody else can hear [TS]

01:25:44   you still with me I've got a wife and [TS]

01:25:46   family I'm out of here [TS]

01:25:47   Oh angel is not that trade oh well [TS]

01:25:51   there's nothing to be done [TS]

01:25:52   thanks for putting together the old [TS]

01:25:53   movie club but you're very welcome i [TS]

01:25:55   regret nothing yeah thanks Phil [TS]

01:26:00   all right everybody out there listening [TS]

01:26:03   to this we're uh very happy if you've [TS]

01:26:06   decided see high noon or singing in the [TS]

01:26:08   rain and if you watched the other one [TS]

01:26:11   well wait for the rifftrax your own [TS]

01:26:14   fault [TS]

01:26:15   no refunds until next time I remain just [TS]

01:26:19   until your host alone at the train [TS]

01:26:21   station waiting for the men to shoot me [TS]

01:26:22   goodnight goodnight [TS]