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0:00:00the Intolerable number 167 November's

0:00:09welcome back to being comfortable

0:00:10podcast I'm your host Jason snow and

0:00:12this is our second edition of our old

0:00:14movie clip we travel back in time and

0:00:17laundry and watch movies that are very

0:00:20old in this case 61 years old and that

0:00:23we may or may not have seen before i had

0:00:26seen none of these movies they're all

0:00:29from 1952 they were selected by our old

0:00:32movie so Mellie a fill-up Michaels who

0:00:35is here with me now hi Phil hello

0:00:38I let me introduce our panel before we

0:00:40get to these three movies

0:00:41yes it's an epic it's an epic cast

0:00:43almost like a Selby didn't film it's

0:00:46practically a sensibility milk

0:00:48production

0:00:49I can't wait to see who the killer clown

0:00:51is it's probably Steve let's hi Steve it

0:00:55biggity Jason always dignity

0:01:01uh you heard the laughter of Lisa

0:01:03speiser there hi Lisa

0:01:05hi it's a pleasure to be here good to

0:01:07have you here David lower is also here

0:01:08hi David hi this is like a clown car you

0:01:12just panelists keep coming out this is

0:01:14great

0:01:15mahdi ash we also joins us haimanti draw

0:01:19partner haha theres another movie

0:01:23there's another movie good reference and

0:01:27Erica and sinus back on the podcast hi

0:01:29Erica

0:01:29hello welcome back thank you

0:01:33so okay Phil tell me your your-your-your

0:01:35you suggested this premise it's all

0:01:37based on the Academy Awards of 1952 can

0:01:40you explain a little bit about what we

0:01:41did I want to take you back in time to

0:01:43see you're not not all the way back to

0:01:45nineteen fifty-two now let's let's just

0:01:47go back to the nineteen eighties when I

0:01:49was a little kid and well medium-sized

0:01:52alright and getting into movies and

0:01:54thank you know i'm going to learn all

0:01:56that I can about movies and I'm gonna do

0:01:58it by watching the very best movies I

0:02:00can obviously the very best movies are

0:02:02the ones that when the best picture

0:02:04oscar course and one Sunday afternoon I

0:02:09think channel to up in the bay area was

0:02:11showing the greatest show on earth and

0:02:13so I decided to sit down and and and

0:02:16watch this epic sprawling sesame the

0:02:19middle story of loves and life's lost on

0:02:21the circus

0:02:22five hours later with commercials five

0:02:24hours later in fact I believe they

0:02:26actually broken up into two consecutive

0:02:28weekends is how long aired on commercial

0:02:30TV and I got it through and I that was

0:02:35when sort of the scales fall off the

0:02:37eyes and you realize you know maybe

0:02:39films that may be the best picture

0:02:41doesn't always win the best picture

0:02:42award and over the years I've seen other

0:02:46movies that that came out that year and

0:02:49you know you get your years like crash

0:02:51winning the the best picture that's

0:02:53often cited as the most recent example

0:02:55and who knows if the movies that came

0:02:59out that you will stand the test of time

0:03:00like a brokeback mountain or for capote

0:03:04i think was nominated that year but we

0:03:06we do have a pretty good track record of

0:03:081952 where the movies sort of fit in the

0:03:11pantheon there and other movies that

0:03:13came out that you're included two that

0:03:15were what that we watch this part of

0:03:16this exercise

0:03:17singing in the rain quite possibly the

0:03:20the greatest musical ever made i would

0:03:22argue and high noon which is certainly

0:03:24one of the iconic westerns and actually

0:03:28a movie with something to say about the

0:03:29human condition and the Academy looked

0:03:33at both those movies didn't even

0:03:35nominate singing in the rain and said

0:03:36hey let's get to the circus movie and so

0:03:39so here we are now having this

0:03:40discussion in 2013

0:03:43alright so we watch singing in the rain

0:03:44high noon and the greatest show on earth

0:03:47some of us watching I made that sort of

0:03:48optional because I didn't want to be I

0:03:50don't want people to hate me

0:03:52basic you're not cruel yeah I brought it

0:03:55on yourself you need to block out a good

0:03:57chunk of your evening to watch the

0:03:59Creator show hundred because it is it it

0:04:01feels like it's a thousand years long

0:04:02it's only 800 the life I had to break it

0:04:06up over two nights

0:04:07yeah I didn't hack it got to the first

0:04:10musical number and I said that's enough

0:04:11for now

0:04:12it took me three days to get through it

0:04:13i gotta say but we gotta remember the

0:04:16greatest show on earth is just it is

0:04:17just a title not a description which

0:04:21they were on earth

0:04:23yeah it was worth it that way to show

0:04:25their children

0:04:27it wasn't freaking mean large that it

0:04:29would convene a few things I guess yes

0:04:31exactly let's just look at great as

0:04:33meaning large in the sense the largest

0:04:35show

0:04:35that was the longest of the three films

0:04:38that we watched that was the greatest

0:04:40and links for shy for you could fit like

0:04:42three high Noons into that it's alright

0:04:44it's more description of volume that

0:04:46high 2pm hi 430 yeah that would that be

0:04:51exactly right it would have been the

0:04:52high 3 325 actually be low side 420 all

0:04:58right we should start with we're going

0:05:00to start with the from the outside going

0:05:02in for the Oscars which means we're

0:05:04going to start with singing in the rain

0:05:06which is generally regarded i think is a

0:05:10movie classic and it was not even

0:05:12nominated for best picture this is a

0:05:16film actually directed by Gene Kelly and

0:05:21co-directed yeah so directed and Stanley

0:05:23Donen yeah

0:05:24mhm I and starring of course Gene Kelly

0:05:28a musical comedy Hollywood oriented a

0:05:34lot of songs lots of dancing it set it

0:05:38said in the nineteen-twenties just as

0:05:40the movies are going from the silent

0:05:42film era to the talkies it's it's it's a

0:05:46big vibrant let's put on a show type

0:05:49picture the origin story on of singing

0:05:51in the rain is i believe the studio but

0:05:53a whole catalog of songs and and

0:05:56basically said let's make let's tie

0:05:58together a movie based on these based on

0:06:00these songs which have really nothing to

0:06:02do with each other when they haven't had

0:06:03a guy named freed or something right who

0:06:05Arthur Arthur freed wasn't sure if the

0:06:08mirrors and division of that those are

0:06:10all his songs

0:06:11yes right those and i think most of the

0:06:13most of the songs in this film had been

0:06:15used several times already before this

0:06:18film never came out so it's like a chick

0:06:20body and musical in a way especially I

0:06:24not to get ahead of ourselves but

0:06:25especially towards the end where there's

0:06:27that moment of like oh and then we'll do

0:06:29a scene that set in the present day and

0:06:31it'll be like this and then there's a

0:06:33random musical number that just

0:06:36interminable is really yes

0:06:39so that is the obligatory in every gene

0:06:42kelly movie there's there's a scene

0:06:44where he discussed i'm going to dance

0:06:46now select a Broadway

0:06:47the good news is you can get up and go

0:06:49get a snack or go to the bathroom to

0:06:51clean something and you can come back

0:06:52and you've just got the end of it you

0:06:54feel super productive i think i think is

0:06:56that the one where where it ends with

0:06:57the they cut back to the producer and

0:06:59he's like well I can't picture it can't

0:07:01quite yeah yeah that was good that was

0:07:03good that was a good joke I i was so i'm

0:07:08not a big i'm not a big dance aficionado

0:07:09i'm just going to admit that and I know

0:07:11that that there are some people on this

0:07:13podcast know Erica enjoys dance stuff

0:07:16and I ate like I feel like dancing

0:07:18illiterate it's just I don't get it

0:07:20it's not that I hated I just don't

0:07:21understand it I didn't I did notice

0:07:24because my wife likes musicals and in

0:07:29advanced stuff and she was pointing out

0:07:31how hard it was because they had to do

0:07:32all the like fully of the tap dancing

0:07:36and and and i totally broke the spell by

0:07:40saying well you know you can tell

0:07:41because there's this most famous dancing

0:07:43maybe in film history where he's out in

0:07:45the rain and and I'm i am totally taken

0:07:49out of it by the fact that the tap

0:07:51sounds don't match where his feet are

0:07:53which means i'm a horrible human being

0:07:54and I'd like to apologize to get out

0:07:56right now

0:07:57that is correct also the tapping off the

0:07:59podcast which i understand it doesn't if

0:08:01you're actually trying to tap-dance in

0:08:03giant bubbles like he was

0:08:04oh yes either you now since so there

0:08:07I've said I've had my say so Jason what

0:08:09does it feel like to have no soul yeah

0:08:11and what do you put the mission is to be

0:08:13reduced or comic books there is what I

0:08:18actually really enjoyed this movie

0:08:21because although like i said i'm sort of

0:08:23dance illiterate I thought it was funny

0:08:27and light i love the idea that we are

0:08:31its people processing that the

0:08:33transition to the talkies and of course

0:08:36you get was Lina Lamont yes who is doing

0:08:41great the great chain Hagen all she's

0:08:42fantastic glamorous glamorous stars of

0:08:45the screen until you she opens her mouth

0:08:47and you discover that

0:08:51yeah so uh you know really funny

0:08:54uh so I I even although i have no soul

0:08:57and cannot appreciate the sheer joy of

0:08:58gene Kelly's dancing I actually I I

0:09:01really I i was entered I was very

0:09:03entertained by this movie and I thought

0:09:05that there were lots of funny funny bits

0:09:07and you know you look at movies at 61

0:09:09years old and you don't expect it to

0:09:11have a meeting with the fact that there

0:09:14was a Hollywood satire aspect to this it

0:09:17was you know a little more modern than i

0:09:19would I was going to give it credit for

0:09:21i guess i would say one of the things

0:09:24that I I I kind of pick up on over the

0:09:27years and maybe I'm seeing things that

0:09:29aren't there

0:09:30there's a real you can kind of spot the

0:09:33influence this film might have had on

0:09:35someone like the Coen brothers because

0:09:37there are just the shots of these kinds

0:09:39of grotesque background people that that

0:09:42pop up like at the the movie premiere

0:09:44and though the party at the producers

0:09:47house and it

0:09:48where where is people just pop onto the

0:09:51screen for kind of comic effect and

0:09:53feels like early coen brothers in that

0:09:54way there's there's use of a lot of a

0:09:56zoom shots and and I I kind of wonder

0:10:00how much influence that had on them

0:10:02early on maybe none whatsoever but it's

0:10:05something that I've always kinda

0:10:06appreciated about singing in the rain

0:10:09yeah I've never seen this before either

0:10:11and in fact I've never actually seen a

0:10:13gene kelly film before they're not all

0:10:15like this

0:10:16no no God no back in fact I thought that

0:10:19I thought Fred Astaire was in this

0:10:21originally before i turn it on

0:10:22no no friends Jael nightmare diamond

0:10:24answer guy yeah yeah Fred Astaire I've

0:10:27never really cotton to Fred Astaire

0:10:28movies but I I enjoy watching Gene Kelly

0:10:30features in my name is pretty

0:10:32prominently whereas I'm the opposite

0:10:34see the thing is Fred Astaire so

0:10:35disturbingly boneless that it's all its

0:10:37supernatural not know not in a good way

0:10:39it's kind of a also one killed a dancer

0:10:41and buried in a pet cemetery now let's

0:10:42come back find away it's like Slenderman

0:10:45the musical and what this is exciting

0:10:46people who like dancing disagree about

0:10:48dancers fight fight it out dance it out

0:10:52there's much more artistic dancers Gene

0:10:55Kelly is a very physical dancer

0:10:57well that's good i was impressed with is

0:10:59he's just show started

0:11:01he's very is staccato and precise

0:11:03whereas Fred Astaire is more fluid and I

0:11:06prefer sort of the more fluid kind of a

0:11:08dancer and I like it looks more relaxed

0:11:11whereas Gene Kelly looks like he's

0:11:12working for it and he's excellent

0:11:14it's fun i think of West Side Story

0:11:16style rumbles about to break out here

0:11:18I've seen that I've seen that this movie

0:11:20maybe want to go back in time to take

0:11:22the branch where I become a dancer

0:11:24actually it was so impressed with the

0:11:27dancing and the Donald O'Connor is

0:11:30diagnosed as well

0:11:32oh yeah walks away with this movie in my

0:11:34opinion in fact his facial expressions

0:11:36are enough to sell me on the movies he's

0:11:37utterly fantastic but yeah gene kelly

0:11:40kind of blew me away i was surprised

0:11:41that the counters dance for make him

0:11:43laugh is amazing because he put so much

0:11:46energy to it is practically all in one

0:11:48shot and then you go on the internet

0:11:50find out who's smoking four packs of

0:11:52cigarettes a day and had to be

0:11:54hospitalized after that didn't have to

0:11:57do it twice because the camera had a

0:11:58malfunction and so he probably had yeah

0:12:02you do produce that he had to perform

0:12:03that whole punishing sequence twice and

0:12:06make it look like it was nothing

0:12:07and I like the the Blythe witty element

0:12:11that he brings to the film it's a smart

0:12:12film and there's a lot of women back and

0:12:15forth to it but I i think that O'Connor

0:12:18nicely undercuts the treacle that

0:12:20develops between the gene kelly and

0:12:23Debra Debra Reynolds characters

0:12:25temporary extension very formal the show

0:12:28is going to properly i haven't been

0:12:30properly introduced do you happen to

0:12:31know princess Leia's mom had no idea

0:12:34that Debbie Reynolds was ever so cute

0:12:36oh yeah social button in this movie

0:12:38whatever she never stopped being cute

0:12:40what are you talking about she's the

0:12:41jennifer aniston of the nineteen fifties

0:12:43and like several different although she

0:12:45has absolutely no chemistry with Gene

0:12:47Kelly whatsoever not out all they did

0:12:49not get along apparently on the set the

0:12:51King James Kelly was a difficult person

0:12:53to work with and for Biola can't don't

0:12:56you understand he made fun of her lack

0:12:59of dancing skill

0:12:59yeah everybody in this movie was

0:13:01miserable the whole time but you can't

0:13:03tell at all from the movie everybody's

0:13:05smiling and cheerful and dancing their

0:13:08little hearts out

0:13:09yeah it's called acting if the smiles

0:13:11are almost too big that we almost too

0:13:13much i think it's a little like like yes

0:13:15I'm happy because i have to be I think

0:13:18they're a little bit i think it's your

0:13:20paper reality of the whole because the

0:13:21fashions are so vivid the dialogue is so

0:13:24stylized the colors are so saturated I

0:13:26think the whole point of the movie was a

0:13:27little bit of high

0:13:28a reality where because you're dealing

0:13:30with something as filled with hyperbolas

0:13:32the entertainment industry you have an

0:13:34aesthetic that matches the outside sense

0:13:36of reality and the slight untethering

0:13:38from from the aesthetic that we have an

0:13:40everyday life and and I think that's why

0:13:42it holds up on as opposed to other

0:13:44musicals yes i was jumping back to the

0:13:47dancing for a second Jason it's

0:13:48interesting that you

0:13:49you mentioned that you know that I like

0:13:50dancing because i believe i mentioned

0:13:52that when we were talking about the

0:13:53matrix yes video and one of the reasons

0:13:56i was talking about it then is because i

0:13:59was saying that i'm not a huge fan of

0:14:00action sequences but I like dance

0:14:02sequences and then somebody went on to

0:14:04point out that action sequences that

0:14:06don't have any that aren't furthering

0:14:08the plot are the ones that are the most

0:14:09boring and I actually feel that way

0:14:11about dance sequences if there's a bit

0:14:14if it's just dancing for the sake of

0:14:16dancing I get bored and there's a lot of

0:14:18that in this movie which is why is it's

0:14:20not my favorite musical

0:14:21how dare you whiteboards fighter yes i

0:14:26think probably my favorite would be top

0:14:27hat i think i think that's more like it

0:14:29more because i like the plot of top hat

0:14:31it's paper thin but what it is

0:14:34yeah you could get my God we're getting

0:14:37into musical snobbery ya up all these

0:14:40are actually going i'm here for comics

0:14:42and sci fi I don't understand what's

0:14:44happening oh I don't know what's going

0:14:45on i'm going to start with the

0:14:47stormtroopers begin dancing because i'm

0:14:49really confused i would watch them movie

0:14:51i quite like singin in the rain is just

0:14:53it i don't love it i have a weird

0:14:54ambivalence to it because there are bits

0:14:56and pieces of it that i just adore and

0:14:58then there are the parts where i do look

0:14:59at what you said we don't want to get up

0:15:01to go clean the house instead

0:15:02oh my god Lu come join me we will rule

0:15:06the universe together but first we dad

0:15:09that there was the Flash Gordon from

0:15:131980 what I like about singing in the

0:15:15rain the most is that it's actually

0:15:17about one of my favorite areas in movie

0:15:19history which is right after they

0:15:20started having sound they knew they had

0:15:23to have musicals but they didn't have

0:15:24any idea what movie musical should be

0:15:26like yeah see we had like the broadway

0:15:28melody movies which are just ziegfeld

0:15:30follies and what yeah it's just a

0:15:32cavalcade of people's terrible

0:15:34vaudeville acts and then you suddenly

0:15:36had Busby Berkeley making a leica

0:15:39footlight parade with James Cagney

0:15:41which just allegedly it's about somebody

0:15:44who puts on stage shows that go in front

0:15:47of movie screens while they're changing

0:15:48the movie over but then when they start

0:15:51all the sudden it takes up like three

0:15:54football fields and there's waterfalls

0:15:56and stuff missing it lasted on fire and

0:16:00spangled ingrained what's when the the

0:16:05opening of Temple of Doom where they do

0:16:07anything goes in Mandarin and and that's

0:16:10a real really nice tribute to that kind

0:16:12of thing where you have this really

0:16:14simple stage show in a club that all of

0:16:16a sudden the camera zooms in and you've

0:16:18got you know all these fields worth of

0:16:20space where they have all the fabric

0:16:23that they're flying around and that I

0:16:25mean that's my favorite part of Temple

0:16:26of Doom you but it won't release his

0:16:28mind

0:16:29I don't remember this way to bring it

0:16:32back to a movie I've seen David you know

0:16:35I'm here for you

0:16:36I don't remember I don't remember this I

0:16:38I now have to go watching HSN just

0:16:40judges have watched the first 15 minutes

0:16:41you know what Stan Aykroyd shows up you

0:16:44can physically get off

0:16:45yeah your wkn a crisis i haven't seen

0:16:49this since it wasn't the theater who

0:16:52think it clearly made an indelible

0:16:54impression of pointless mother today I

0:16:56remember being very very angry that that

0:16:58was the film that her daughter was

0:16:59family winter season with musical number

0:17:01up eating and quickly descends into

0:17:04eating monkey brains much like any

0:17:06friends here his greatest works well are

0:17:08you saying it's good until shortround

0:17:09shows up oh no it's but it'sit's great

0:17:11until they land in India that's when it

0:17:14falls apart without you

0:17:15ok so you're including the rubber raft

0:17:17flying through the air

0:17:18no no when they jump out of the plane

0:17:20that's yeah jump out of the plane really

0:17:22you know if it's worth be catching up on

0:17:24the Indiana Jones wants the first 51

0:17:25making of your families so that is like

0:17:28singing Lorraine Temple of Doom was also

0:17:31not nominated for an Oscar nothing have

0:17:33two very similar good time together so

0:17:37let's talk about this real fast at the

0:17:39the whole Oscar element here

0:17:40alright yeah what what is the cause I

0:17:43frankly don't give two craps about Oscar

0:17:45most of the time for sure hot cast what

0:17:48is the record for musicals as far as

0:17:51being nominated or or winning best

0:17:53quickly they do pretty

0:17:55well in fact yeah the year before

0:17:56singing in the rain a gene kelly musical

0:17:58an American in Paris won best picture

0:18:00really know did that win best picture

0:18:03good lord Oscar what you see

0:18:05yeah I I that's pretty much the same

0:18:07time so it could very well have just

0:18:08been Kelly one last year so let's skip

0:18:11over this year and Chicago one recently

0:18:14took John recently in the 1960s you

0:18:16would think the 1960s would be this wild

0:18:18experimental time for the movies but

0:18:20Oliver and hello dolly I think my one

0:18:24day they talk about higher lady

0:18:26well they talk about how hello dolly

0:18:28gonna list a claim it was showing how

0:18:29out-of-touch the Academy was with the

0:18:30forces that were overtaking filmmaking

0:18:32right

0:18:33hello dolly and Barbra Streisand are

0:18:34pretty much used as your haha the

0:18:37Academy doesn't get it and at the time

0:18:39you know American Paris was seen as this

0:18:41you know really great gene kelly film

0:18:43and it had the huge ballet sequence and

0:18:46then he comes back with this spoof of

0:18:47Hollywood

0:18:48yeah it was it was seen as a very

0:18:50lightweight film in 1952 yeah well it is

0:18:53it and it is

0:18:54yeah infection but there's nothing wrong

0:18:57with that because it's really well-made

0:18:57yeah it's a really nice confection like

0:19:00this movie we have a rear about circuses

0:19:02yeah god no it's not an infection that

0:19:04is that is like that's like a TGI

0:19:06Fridays like cookie skillet sunday with

0:19:09five scoops that's like having a whole

0:19:10wedding cake jammed down your gullet the

0:19:13toilet plunger I saw situations in the

0:19:16in the creditors like oh well I wonder

0:19:17what part she'll play and the answer is

0:19:19i drop into dance scene all she's the

0:19:23legs i enjoyed the i believe i turned to

0:19:27Lauren and said I'm sure that's exactly

0:19:29how the Hollywood story meetings go when

0:19:31they're like hey let's let's add a plot

0:19:34here it is little called the dancing

0:19:36cavalier it's like in in like two

0:19:37minutes they come up with this whole

0:19:38asinine modification for this the silent

0:19:43film to turn it into a into a talkie

0:19:45I've gotta to DVD set of like a hundred

0:19:48musicals some of which are only 40

0:19:50minutes long

0:19:51that's like a pretty much certainly how

0:19:53they made those movies

0:19:54yeah it well it's like they will patton

0:19:57oswalt routine about dr. Scott's about

0:19:59how he's brought in to do script

0:20:01doctoring work on animated movies and

0:20:03they put a lot of terrible jokes in the

0:20:05background too

0:20:06mask the fact that nothing interesting

0:20:08is happening on the screen and that's

0:20:09that's kind of your your 1920's 1930's

0:20:12musical planning in a nutshell

0:20:15so in the famous singing in the rain

0:20:16seen one of the things I liked about it

0:20:20is at the end i love I've actually love

0:20:22that he's dipping his feet in the water

0:20:24in the deep water by the by the gutter i

0:20:26think that's pretty cool and i love that

0:20:27it ends with with the cop and he's like

0:20:31oh I've been dancing in the street like

0:20:33a crazy person and a cop has noticed did

0:20:38nothing to see here I'm just gonna

0:20:39continue my walking now and here you

0:20:41here sir enjoy this umbrella i like that

0:20:44touch

0:20:45yeah that's it I'm done left how that

0:20:47scene like many of the Dancing's is done

0:20:50in a wide shot that's held continuously

0:20:52so you can actually see the person

0:20:53dancing and what they're doing

0:20:55I mention that because i saw battle of

0:20:56the year recently which is a dance movie

0:20:58where you can see no dancing

0:21:00let's that's awful people jumping around

0:21:04it's all people starting to do a

0:21:05backflip and they cut to a different

0:21:06angle and somebody else starts to do a

0:21:08backflip and you continue that for five

0:21:09minutes and they say that's a damn you

0:21:11you just doing gymnastics except that

0:21:13all you do is you show the girl with the

0:21:14ponytails sprinting down and jumping on

0:21:16a springboard and then you show them

0:21:17losing the landing you do that because

0:21:19you're making a dance scene where no one

0:21:21can actually dance whereas when you

0:21:22ought at gene kelly and a dozen other

0:21:26people can dance I've seen them do it

0:21:27they can at least do backflips you don't

0:21:29get to see all of those are just the

0:21:32same thing is dancing though it is now

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0:23:20incomparable I have a question for you

0:23:22musical historians out there

0:23:24yeah what percentage of early musicals

0:23:26are about making a musical for like

0:23:29sixty to ninety five percent roughly the

0:23:32first five or six years practically all

0:23:34of them certainly all the broadway

0:23:37melody and big broadcast movies are i

0:23:41want to say that Oklahoma was kind of

0:23:43unique in the fact that it was actually

0:23:45a musical that was that told a story

0:23:48that wasn't innately about putting on a

0:23:51show but i might be wrong on the time in

0:23:54there even the ones that aren't innately

0:23:55about putting on a show are often and

0:23:57have that sort of like thrown in there

0:23:59like top hat it's not about putting on a

0:24:01show but there's a bit of that in there

0:24:02even like the sound of music that's not

0:24:05about putting on a show but they sure

0:24:06put our show yeah right i think Oklahoma

0:24:09is considered to be important because

0:24:11the first one where the songs are

0:24:12actually advancing the plot and so we

0:24:15have somebody stops sings and then three

0:24:17minutes later picks up their

0:24:18conversation where I assume they were

0:24:21Broadway musicals before this is it that

0:24:24certainly can't have been a new

0:24:25innovation for musicals in general while

0:24:28you're all the way back to nineteen

0:24:29twenties and back then as far as i can

0:24:32tell from

0:24:33reading PG Wodehouse musicals back then

0:24:36they were very much like reviewed by

0:24:39media and they bring out the girls and

0:24:42then you keep the girls there cause

0:24:43that's all anyone wanted the kind of

0:24:44stuff that plays an oatmeal Nebraska

0:24:46yeah right you want you to be able to

0:24:49dip things in and out and go okay this

0:24:50doesn't work at all let's put in a

0:24:52different song and it was it wasn't in

0:24:54the early thirties when they started to

0:24:57say okay let's there's there's a shape

0:24:59of a story to the show and you know like

0:25:03now with anything goes the actual

0:25:04musical Cole Porter was sick and tired

0:25:07of people coming late to his shows

0:25:09because that was the fashionable thing

0:25:11so we'll come five or ten minutes late

0:25:12so he knew that I get a kick out of you

0:25:15is going to be the hit from the show and

0:25:17he said that's the first song in the

0:25:19show and so all his friends came 15

0:25:22minutes late the next morning everyone

0:25:23is talking about this great songs are

0:25:24like what song was that we didn't hear

0:25:27that song what's that hold that and then

0:25:29and then you know current and

0:25:31Hammerstein and Rodgers and Hart started

0:25:34to make story and then you know from

0:25:38their kind of went on and then when

0:25:39Rodgers and Hammerstein got together

0:25:40then they said hey we can make a story

0:25:42that doesn't actually involve show

0:25:44people putting on a show

0:25:46I like this the fact that it had to be a

0:25:48paradigm buster is is is kind of sad

0:25:51yeah well the meat the musical is such a

0:25:54strange onra and I say that as a fan of

0:25:56music gasps where where you're just sort

0:25:57of walking down the street and then

0:25:59suddenly you to do I fear and I throw do

0:26:02it just grew out of oven music hall

0:26:06yeah yeah yeah I actually headed to drag

0:26:09my spouse kicking and screaming to watch

0:26:10this with me he hates musicals for that

0:26:13very reason he doesn't understand he can

0:26:15he can totally get behind some space

0:26:17wizard fighting another space wizard

0:26:19with a sword made out of light but you

0:26:21can't handle somebody's stopping in the

0:26:23middle of the street and suddenly

0:26:24singing a song

0:26:25are these filthy revolutionary singing

0:26:27about to France great Ally every time a

0:26:31song came on i had to be like see it's

0:26:32diegetic they're actually singing that

0:26:34song there's a reason for it and then

0:26:36there were a couple of numbers where it

0:26:37was like I got nothing i'm sorry they're

0:26:38just paying for no reason and and how

0:26:40did the Albatross ultimately enjoy

0:26:41singing in the rain actually in this

0:26:44case I think he lifted it up because he

0:26:46had a lot of fun looking at the just the

0:26:48filming techniques and the fact that

0:26:50when you'd be the camera would move from

0:26:52one room to the other you see the edge

0:26:54of the wall and this that if you said

0:26:56yeah fascinated by that he complained

0:26:58about the badly time fully and the dance

0:27:00numbers he actually did mention the flat

0:27:03all right oh yeah yeah you're right also

0:27:06not enough space wizard related musicals

0:27:08by the way in hell Hollywood hello don't

0:27:10give them ideas

0:27:12Oh God so I i was inoculated a with the

0:27:16King and I at a young age because that

0:27:17was my mother's favorite movie and and

0:27:19then I remember seeing that prevents

0:27:22mom's right yeah it does it does and

0:27:24others but not for the king he doesn't

0:27:26even it's very cute guys

0:27:27yeah really support horn yeah where's

0:27:31the cake and I know this is your brother

0:27:33I die at the end of the king and i

0:27:35please do not smoke off my daughter

0:27:38yeah yeah anyway is why I saw that and

0:27:42then west side story obviously when I

0:27:45was probably 14 or something like that

0:27:46and and then so I get it I I don't find

0:27:49it as maybe as totally nuts as a as

0:27:54Erica's husband does but I I it's not my

0:27:57favorite genre but i like so I mean what

0:27:59I'm saying is hey I like singing in the

0:28:01rain especially then later I watched

0:28:04other movies made this year huh and I

0:28:07really like singing in the rain and

0:28:08wished i could watch it again and again

0:28:09instead of other movies but you know

0:28:12that much more likely referring to

0:28:14well he certainly isn't referring to

0:28:15high noon no no which was nominated for

0:28:18a there was too much singing in high

0:28:21noon know as far as I'm yeah well yeah

0:28:23that's actually my my least favorite

0:28:25part about High Noon is focus on

0:28:27Freddie's yeah continuously it that's my

0:28:30favorite part of the Mad Magazine parody

0:28:32of high new not for shake Muriel mod or

0:28:35we could only afford one song you think

0:28:37there's a lot of zipper in the third man

0:28:40oh but there is no that texture that I

0:28:44like how that texture song sets the mood

0:28:47and then it never stops playing which is

0:28:51kind of crazy like I said ever it

0:28:53actually did remind me of the relentless

0:28:55scissoring of the third band where it's

0:28:58like we got we're gonna go with this is

0:29:00it

0:29:00music yes let's do that here it's like

0:29:02hey Tex Ritter he's great play it it's

0:29:05like fight the power

0:29:06yeah I did me actually of I've never

0:29:09seen I've never actually seen the doctor

0:29:10who cereal the gunfighters but from

0:29:12everything I've heard about it the last

0:29:14chance saloon if the song that plays

0:29:16over and over again in that story it it

0:29:19seems like it must have been that same

0:29:20experience because people say they hate

0:29:21that sign from hearing it so many times

0:29:23I was like I finally know how they feel

0:29:25we've got we've got one song we do you

0:29:28want us to do play the song initially

0:29:31that some kind of bug me but after a

0:29:33while it was actually serving to sort of

0:29:35ratchet up the tension wraps it around

0:29:37yeah i think it's the Stockholm Syndrome

0:29:39kind of spoilery that really i like to

0:29:41imagine the text later played

0:29:43continuously throughout the movie like

0:29:44he's just off off the off-camera just

0:29:46put keep singing text

0:29:48yeah so okay so high noon AKA one hell

0:29:52of a crappy day for will Kane yeah just

0:29:55what i would call it

0:29:56yeah yeah so so the he's it's and it's

0:29:59and it's is his wedding day it's

0:30:00supposed to be a good day and he's

0:30:02retiring isn't town marshal he's leaving

0:30:04new marshals coming tomorrow you can

0:30:06tell how excited he is with that kissy

0:30:08plants on his new wife to it is

0:30:11passionate Grace Kelly I yeah but the

0:30:15bad guys are coming on the noon train

0:30:16and when they get there they're gonna

0:30:18come and find the old Marshall and

0:30:20they're gonna they're gonna take the

0:30:22revenge

0:30:23that's right and and the movie is

0:30:24essentially told in more or less real

0:30:27time as the clock

0:30:29oh by the way this town is a town where

0:30:31there are lots of clocks visible and

0:30:33lots of Cour at all times

0:30:35yes and and that woman that's the that's

0:30:37the very cool thing about about this

0:30:39movie is that it's it's it's sort of

0:30:41setup as the standard Western and it

0:30:43turns out the bulk of the running time

0:30:44is him trying to put together a posse to

0:30:47fight these bad guys we're going to

0:30:48cover the town and kill him and the the

0:30:51people of the town or unmoved and

0:30:53they're like well thanks for imposing

0:30:55order and making sure that we were safe

0:30:57but you're on your own now we got two

0:31:00things in this town clocks and Tex

0:31:02Ritter but we don't got it is a lot of

0:31:04courage know so so having never seen

0:31:07this movie before I want to say up at

0:31:09the top here this movie was shot in

0:31:13on a back lot in LA and on location

0:31:16where I grew up and in fact parts of the

0:31:19town are columbia state historic park

0:31:21where i went to elementary school to

0:31:23where I grew up and I the countryside is

0:31:27absolutely the countryside outside the

0:31:29town that I grew up in and the train

0:31:31that pulls in bringing the bad guys at

0:31:34the end of the movie is actually the

0:31:35same train that's in back to the future

0:31:36three and it is admin at the rail town

0:31:39historic park in jamestown California so

0:31:42this uh i watch this movie almost as a

0:31:45mean it was I grew up in high noon

0:31:49essentially with cower ask as it turns

0:31:52out he was 60 was almost crushed by a

0:31:54clock no wonder you're sick of the song

0:31:55so now you know why there's no sheriff

0:31:57in your home terrorism o'clock downtown

0:31:59so I noticed that Jason also didn't help

0:32:02Marshall I didn't so but what he's

0:32:05saying a lot but anyway I i really

0:32:07enjoyed that because the high noon at

0:32:09Grace Kelly stayed at the at the Senora

0:32:12in town centre when they were filming

0:32:14this movie it's a I think they actually

0:32:15have it like on a sign somewhere so yeah

0:32:19I grew up I grew up in high noon but uh

0:32:21but uh i love that this movie supports

0:32:24that expectation that you know the first

0:32:27thing we see are our hero do after he

0:32:28gets married is is run away right before

0:32:30he thinks better of it turns around and

0:32:32realize that they'll just gotta find the

0:32:35right word

0:32:36well well okay so so in the end like the

0:32:40town gets shot up and um he could have

0:32:44just left right I guess they would have

0:32:45I guess they would have a you know gone

0:32:49wild the bad guys would have gone wild

0:32:51in the town or something but they would

0:32:52eventually tracked him down because he

0:32:54was having sure you're coming back right

0:32:56so it really wasn't entirely brave move

0:32:58for him to turn around and come back as

0:33:00he says there's more stubborn as they're

0:33:02rolling away but it's also partially

0:33:04clearly because he feels like he's he's

0:33:06on the hook for the town still even

0:33:08though he's technically retired right

0:33:10and there's there's some talk that you

0:33:12know some people were very much looking

0:33:14forward to the bad guys coming back at

0:33:15ya

0:33:16as things things was lively then and

0:33:19there was a lot of money to be made so

0:33:21that's one of the things I liked about

0:33:24the film was the fact that they didn't

0:33:25draw a hard line as to whether it was a

0:33:28good idea for him to come back or not he

0:33:30had this idea that they were gonna run

0:33:31run roughshod over the town but then you

0:33:34know that the fellow with the church was

0:33:36saying you know if you leave we probably

0:33:38won't have any trouble at all they think

0:33:39they're really never makes it clear if

0:33:42if it's good or bad and I think that's I

0:33:44like the gray in fact business in town

0:33:46was better when the bad guys were

0:33:47hanging around right so a lot of people

0:33:48are waiting for my comeback

0:33:50they say that but the first thing the

0:33:51bad guys do is start smashing windows

0:33:53and stealing bonnets

0:33:54yeah but the guy who makes the windows

0:33:55loves that guy makes the bonnets lot of

0:33:58fat

0:33:58yeah good for some it's now my favorite

0:34:02kid my favorite character in the movie

0:34:04among the ancillary characters is the

0:34:05sneering hotel clerk always man cursor

0:34:09to EB Farnum on you know what

0:34:11yeah I love that they flush out the

0:34:12hotel clerk is this really smarmy

0:34:14bastard i mean it's it's it's not you

0:34:15know Western it's to have the incidental

0:34:18characters have real personalities seems

0:34:20really unusual to me and all of these do

0:34:23it and i also really like the way this

0:34:25with this movie is structured it it

0:34:27doesn't give you a lot of exposition

0:34:29upfront kind of lays out the back story

0:34:32in dribs and drabs and it's kind of like

0:34:34we're seeing the end of a much longer

0:34:35story and Aaron are standing what

0:34:38happened before is just sort of being

0:34:40meted out bit by bit I think that's

0:34:41great because there's some mystery about

0:34:43why you know all of his deputies are

0:34:46gone and what happened between him and

0:34:47Helen Ramirez and all the other things

0:34:50why is lloyd bridges so bitter

0:34:52yeah was he tipped off about so yeah I

0:34:55thought this was really cool

0:34:56no Lloyd Bridges why does he sound the

0:34:58same in this movie is he does 30 years

0:35:00later theme playing the whole time I was

0:35:03just like Oh Lloyd Bridges come on Lloyd

0:35:05Bridges by this time my lungs were

0:35:07aching for air i like i love the Helen

0:35:09Ramirez character that's that that's a

0:35:11really nice nice thing and she's got her

0:35:14she's got her business she's like all

0:35:16right I'm gonna sell them getting down

0:35:17how young is one tough customer which is

0:35:19nice and she's like I hate that I hate

0:35:21this pit

0:35:22I'm getting out and getting out of seven

0:35:24eat my dog you people disgust me I've

0:35:26taken everything from you I can sign or

0:35:29a circle

0:35:30yeah i did like her I like the fact that

0:35:32this was a Western with two very

0:35:35a strong prominent female characters i

0:35:37mean it still doesn't quite pass the

0:35:38bechdel test but i like the fact that

0:35:41they were they were right in your face a

0:35:42lot of the time yeah the Grace Kelly's

0:35:45character is is she's interesting I mean

0:35:48she's had she's headstrong I like that

0:35:51she goes to the train and she's like

0:35:53well alright i have stormed off in a

0:35:55huff and i'm at the train station

0:35:57I'm it's hot i'm gonna go way back boat

0:36:00oh it's hot in there is three ruffians

0:36:03staring at me lewdly but you can tell

0:36:05this movie was made in the fifties as

0:36:06opposed to now when the ruffians would

0:36:08probably make be making life really

0:36:09uncomfortable for her

0:36:10um there's there's a more genteel code

0:36:12at work even though the whole film is

0:36:14about we're going to kill this man once

0:36:15our friend gets to town the fact that

0:36:18they don't think to go after any any of

0:36:20those civilians is pretty notable but i

0:36:22think they didn't want to commit any

0:36:23crimes until everybody got their right

0:36:24because they did that was part of why is

0:36:26he going to punish them somehow tell

0:36:28them they can't attend that will know

0:36:29that will give him the ability to lock

0:36:31in the impetus to lock him up and then

0:36:33it's then there's any you have only has

0:36:35to shoot one guy instead for half the

0:36:37reason that that Helen Ramirez is

0:36:39leaving town is because she's afraid of

0:36:41what he's gonna do when he gets back but

0:36:43he sees her on the way she's getting on

0:36:45the train and does nothing which i think

0:36:48is interesting

0:36:48she's second on his list state bigger

0:36:50fish to fry but do you think maybe

0:36:52that's also commentary on the railroad

0:36:53is being one of the civilising

0:36:54influences that was beyond like the idea

0:36:57that the railroad and the infrastructure

0:36:58was bigger than the law or anyone town

0:37:00and the cloak locks other the Glocks

0:37:03well no because that's actually one of

0:37:05the big themes in American frontier life

0:37:07is the idea that even when you have

0:37:09people who try to go to the small to try

0:37:12to you know homestead or or start

0:37:14civilizations would have them there is

0:37:15inevitably some sort of entity whether

0:37:17it's the government or some corporation

0:37:19or something that ultimately infringes

0:37:22on their autonomy and imposes the will

0:37:24and i'm not saying that

0:37:26High Noon did that explicitly but I

0:37:27think it's kind of telling that the the

0:37:28train is seen as some sort of Governor

0:37:31Burrell authority that shapes people's

0:37:33lives

0:37:34it's sort of reflects the subconscious

0:37:35of recognition that even these tiny

0:37:38frontier towns which are perceived as

0:37:39being laws into themselves art you know

0:37:42they're all part of a vast web that

0:37:44somebody else's problem controlling from

0:37:45a boardroom back east

0:37:46well I actually clocks are synchronized

0:37:48the railroads and high noon may have

0:37:52just been in this town noon is when the

0:37:54train gets there i mean it's it's

0:37:55entirely possible but that's true so the

0:37:57trip the train is this force of nature

0:37:59that's bringing in this this change to

0:38:01this town with this guy who got you know

0:38:04another comment in this movie is boy the

0:38:06laws in Texas stink they like this guys

0:38:08coming back

0:38:10it's stupid texas which we call that a

0:38:12documentary Jason there's also you can

0:38:15accuse texted being easy on criminals

0:38:17yeah that's true yeah i was impressed

0:38:19that this is probably one of the most

0:38:22tense films i've seen in quite a long

0:38:23time we headed

0:38:25it's just very as time is sort of taking

0:38:27ever away and and you're slowly

0:38:29realizing that no one's gonna come to

0:38:31this guy's rescue and you know he's

0:38:33getting increasingly worried and sweaty

0:38:35and it towards the middle to fill me

0:38:37just looking genuinely pants crapping

0:38:39Lee terrified which is great that I was

0:38:43surprised i mean i don't think i've seen

0:38:44a movie this old that really kind of

0:38:46ratchet things up for me quite that bad

0:38:48it's an expertly written movie and its

0:38:51really well shot by by Fred Fred

0:38:54Zinnemann yeah it's super compact to

0:38:56there's not a minute of it that's wasted

0:38:57I mean that every gallery gene is when

0:38:59you don't see any dissolves from from

0:39:01scene to scene it's all just straight

0:39:03cuts which is sort of adds to that the

0:39:04speed and the tension I think the fact

0:39:06that this is in real-time really helps

0:39:08here

0:39:08yeah it's it's a masterclass I think and

0:39:10how to in how to write a good tense film

0:39:12without the extra fat not an acting

0:39:15showcase though now we were talking

0:39:17about that where it's probably the best

0:39:19work Gary Cooper's down but that's not

0:39:20saying a lot because this is Gary Cooper

0:39:22and his job was really ever to act his

0:39:23job was to be stalwart and and and look

0:39:26vaguely feeling about things I think

0:39:28he's fairly terrific in this though

0:39:29because he's called to look pained a lot

0:39:31yeah oh yeah no it'sit's right in his

0:39:33wheelhouse the character being sad about

0:39:36what he has to do but well i like i like

0:39:38to the mean one of the themes of this of

0:39:41this is I mean we can talk about the

0:39:43people in the town being cowardly and

0:39:47how hard it is to get a nucleus of

0:39:49people together because nobody wants to

0:39:51go first but I think also it's the

0:39:53alienating nature of being the the law

0:39:56on the frontier I think it's a part of

0:39:59this to it they're all kind of remove

0:40:01from him as the marshal he's he doesn't

0:40:03seem like he's one of them he's the guy

0:40:05who was the marshal he was kind of their

0:40:07town employee for a while and nobody

0:40:09really needed to like him and the people

0:40:11the person's the fun of all the guys in

0:40:13the bar

0:40:14yeah the person who didn't like him you

0:40:15know she's you know you once she's

0:40:18getting out of town at the same time

0:40:19right with Helen Ramirez so I think

0:40:21that's really interesting that you know

0:40:23this is like a guy who is trying to call

0:40:26in all his chips at this incredibly

0:40:27dramatic time and realizes he has no

0:40:29chips he is he just he doesn't nobody

0:40:32knows him

0:40:34there's the one guy the one guy who's

0:40:36like yeah sure I'll stand with you and

0:40:37then he comes back at the end and says

0:40:38what you didn't get anybody else

0:40:40well you know I got a family and that's

0:40:42it that's it

0:40:44it's a nice it's also nice commentary on

0:40:45the selfishness of the public to and

0:40:47while you're a public servant service

0:40:49yeah you dancing we hate they paid you i

0:40:52love that moment where one of the

0:40:53townspeople says you what do we pay you

0:40:55for all this time

0:40:57yeah yeah well I was just I mean that

0:41:00that's something you could hear today

0:41:01and it's just this amazing amazing

0:41:03entitlement that the these people have

0:41:06to this guy that it's like you know we

0:41:07paid you what do you want from us just

0:41:09do you know do whatever do your job

0:41:11we're not we're not going to get

0:41:12involved and i gave at the office yeah

0:41:14yeah yeah yeah man meanwhile the clock

0:41:17ticks down no one gave me a hand out it

0:41:20does become tense and then ok so then

0:41:22we've got the the shootout and and i

0:41:25would say it did it delivers like the

0:41:28the end of this movie

0:41:30there is action and there's like burning

0:41:32barnes and jumping on horseback and lots

0:41:36of shooting and you know the one thing

0:41:39that I knew for sure is that his wife

0:41:41would never get involved because she's a

0:41:42Quaker and therefore is opposed to

0:41:45violence so I knew that she wouldn't be

0:41:47involved later if convenience that is

0:41:50neat because when they talk about why

0:41:52she's a Quaker it's not like while I was

0:41:54raised in the SEC know she's a genius is

0:41:56a conscientious objector

0:41:57yeah it was my brother got shot and so

0:41:59as a result I veered to this

0:42:00philosophical creed that i'm going to

0:42:02discard when my conscience friend lyrics

0:42:04up and so I feel like the quicker thing

0:42:07is more of a plot complication than

0:42:08actual here is a code of non-violence

0:42:11and the consequences that that has

0:42:12because she she decides she doesn't like

0:42:15consequences so she rejects the code you

0:42:17have what they did to save her to save

0:42:19her husband she does yeah yeah yeah it's

0:42:22a nice i mean that's that's I think a I

0:42:24mean it's intended as a plot twist like

0:42:26she's forced into this corner and she

0:42:28needs to do this what twists yes I i

0:42:30really love that that sequence so i

0:42:32think it's i think it's a lot of fun i

0:42:33really like that I like I left like when

0:42:35he's in the barn and they throw the

0:42:37first thing in and it's like well that

0:42:39didn't work and then they throw the next

0:42:41thing hits the hay was like oh crap ok i

0:42:43got a lot of that a lot of that shoot up

0:42:46shootout is filmed from Cannes

0:42:47perspective yeah he's trying to find the

0:42:49guys where they can they see me oh jeez

0:42:51the shoot me now

0:42:53wala wrap up here comes a lantern maybe

0:42:56i shouldna picked the hayloft I did ya

0:42:57bring a lot of shootouts of westerns of

0:43:00that era were kind of the the phrase was

0:43:02the Chuck and duck shootout where it's

0:43:04it's just guys behind barrels with a

0:43:08pop-up and shooting each other in that

0:43:09and then eventually someone would go you

0:43:11got me yeah it a gunfight at the ok

0:43:14corral with kirk douglas and Burt

0:43:17Lancaster is I I think kind of like this

0:43:19like whack-a-mole

0:43:21yeah just keep popping up and then

0:43:22eventually one of them is gone and the

0:43:24game trope the other thing about that

0:43:25shootout is I just being versed in the

0:43:28standard Western I keep expecting that

0:43:30the town's full gonna rally at the last

0:43:32minute I know and they don't i like that

0:43:35they don't I do too

0:43:37oh yeah no it would ruin the film if

0:43:38they had me I'd be a bit be a BS message

0:43:42and I like Kathy and he throws the

0:43:43started yeah alright know the iconic

0:43:46endings of West man you people can suck

0:43:48it the next comes with that glare at the

0:43:50end that's that that's all to come up

0:43:52and see me yeah they come out of the end

0:43:54they don't come out until it's all said

0:43:55and done he drops his tin star and he's

0:43:59out of there that's the incision great

0:44:01the next day a new marshal is coming and

0:44:03he's gonna be really confused however

0:44:05when ax ya know ya gonna give him the

0:44:07star and the third avoiding his gaze yea

0:44:10high noon to the next day would be a

0:44:11very interesting movie in 1980 CBS did a

0:44:16high noon part to turn god Kane and

0:44:19white with guess who

0:44:22Lee Majors guys are all came it's all

0:44:25coming back to me now like a horrible

0:44:27nightmare and if it does well see that's

0:44:29like the murder isn't around perhaps I I

0:44:32didn't see it at the time because i was

0:44:33nine but I watched it a couple years ago

0:44:36just because I figured it was gonna be

0:44:37awful it's you know like 15 minutes

0:44:40longer than the original so of course

0:44:43it's going to be good and it's not awful

0:44:47I mean it's not very good but I present

0:44:50mr. quite awful put that on the DVD

0:44:53cover not awful

0:44:54maybe it's david Lord the script is by

0:44:57Elmore Leonard and if you just if you

0:45:00sort of ignore the fact that it's a

0:45:01crappy TV movie with nothing good

0:45:03actress the script isn't that bad

0:45:06soft a grave let this become that this

0:45:12decode an infant yeah I i had forgotten

0:45:14about the return of well can I do know

0:45:16that they did a remake in the nineties

0:45:19with tom skerritt in the will can roll

0:45:21and it will not know it will not shock

0:45:24you to to know that the part of the

0:45:27lloyd bridges part of the callow deputy

0:45:30was played by read diamond I come on the

0:45:33edge from homicide life on the street if

0:45:35i want to see a high noon remake i will

0:45:38go with Sean Connery and outland yeah

0:45:41yes no that was essentially high noon

0:45:43which is a pretty good movie actually

0:45:44for a you know early 80 sci-fi movie

0:45:46it's and it is the the bat the assassins

0:45:49are coming on the on the shuttle from

0:45:50Jupiter or something and he knows

0:45:53they're coming and he's got a very

0:45:55limited amount of time to figure out

0:45:56what he's going to do before they get

0:45:57there it's very much i knew he throws

0:46:00his star into the ground but it floats

0:46:01up influence away mrs. its base location

0:46:04should have known things are going to go

0:46:05bad the minute that he realized that

0:46:07uncle Billy was in town before we move

0:46:09on I want to say how greatly Van Cleef

0:46:11is you have lines but he's such a cool

0:46:13creepy leering figure that I just know

0:46:16he's gonna do something as he never say

0:46:18anything that as as as this movie is in

0:46:20Gary Cooper's wheelhouse not saying

0:46:22anything and looking community is just

0:46:24about the van cleef skill set yeah and

0:46:26that he opens his mouth and that's the

0:46:28end that's why he didn't open his mouth

0:46:29yeah exactly rate

0:46:31I got to get another drink before we go

0:46:34on to the next movie

0:46:35yeah i'm going to go out and we get some

0:46:39ginger let's uh ok so let's fill what

0:46:43was the best picture winner for 1952

0:46:47well Jason and the perfect world it

0:46:49would have been high noon I i think we

0:46:51can say I yes you know yes I would

0:46:54prefer we all we've all rented and raved

0:46:56about it but unfortunately it was a

0:46:58thinly-veiled allegory for McCarthyism

0:47:01which was certain going strong at the

0:47:02time and indeed I believe the

0:47:04screenwriter was blacklisted you know

0:47:05it's time you see what about the time of

0:47:07the academy awards coming out so just a

0:47:10reminder that artists always stand for

0:47:12moral clarity and courage

0:47:13remember that's what they tell you every

0:47:14year the Academy what about ivanhoe Ivan

0:47:17how we didn't watch ivanhoe i did not

0:47:19what I have not I have not seen

0:47:20Eisenhower I've seen some other movies

0:47:22that came out that year the quiet man

0:47:24um we already seen all of us subscene of

0:47:28lavender I want that you know year

0:47:30actually i have not you missed you mean

0:47:32you were not on that old movie club when

0:47:34you should go watch it's funny

0:47:35yeah exactly is the cary grant monkey

0:47:38business is this year and i think my

0:47:40point is that all of those movies would

0:47:41be better than the actual winner of the

0:47:45greatest show on earth says will be the

0:47:48mill sesame the mill produced produced

0:47:51and directed aerated narrated yes

0:47:54edited ruined mill doing that over our

0:47:57marinara yes that is something that

0:47:59accessibility milk as he does the same

0:48:01thing in the Ten Commandments to and

0:48:03it's every bit as effective there as it

0:48:06is here that he was in charge of turning

0:48:08the knob to make it more technical is

0:48:10sinews of sawdust and blood

0:48:13yeah at least at least in the Ten

0:48:15Commandments though he's like doing is

0:48:16talking about a biblical epic as opposed

0:48:19to you and then you go to the circus

0:48:21circus clowns any peanuts

0:48:25did you ever think of the people who

0:48:27rigged the tents spun sugar on paper

0:48:31cones

0:48:32yeah it was like half documentary half

0:48:34yes yeah again that but yeah I wrote

0:48:37down that if they hadn't had all that

0:48:38stock circus flitted footage and

0:48:40overwrought narration this movie would

0:48:41have been 10 minutes long yeah and and

0:48:43far better so we were trying to

0:48:45it out and over the best that I can come

0:48:47to get the idea here was people will

0:48:50experience the spectacle of the actual

0:48:52circus but also behind-the-scenes the

0:48:55human drama that occurs and I guess why

0:48:59I greater than any trapped is a kind of

0:49:01get the idea but then you're just

0:49:04watching a crappy circus for 20 minutes

0:49:08on end

0:49:09you didn't like the Disney parade is

0:49:11that what you're saying like Oh with the

0:49:13way to run down

0:49:14Wikimedia costume like this it's

0:49:17generally a pretty good circus as such

0:49:19things go except we see it from the

0:49:21cheap seats have yes yes he's wide shots

0:49:23from way back in the back i actually

0:49:25liked a lot of the circus teens better

0:49:27than I like the scenes of the

0:49:28quote-unquote characters interact and

0:49:30well yeah yeah I met Kelly is a hell of

0:49:32a clown i watch this documentary on PBS

0:49:34a couple years ago called circus which

0:49:36was about the big apple circus and

0:49:38actually delves into the

0:49:39behind-the-scenes stuff and I really

0:49:43think whoever made the greatest show on

0:49:44earth like all of their instincts were

0:49:45completely off maybe just the topic

0:49:48matter the narrative structure all of it

0:49:51because I who wants to know that clowns

0:49:53commit murder or more that that reaction

0:49:56actually expected haha its you think

0:50:00excuses

0:50:02it's just this movie is just a sustained

0:50:05marathon and lunacy beginning to end and

0:50:08not the the only the argue the one

0:50:10argument i can make a favor this movie

0:50:11is Gloria Grahame kind of rises above

0:50:13the material and I have my love

0:50:15everything that she's in oh my god she's

0:50:17I was excited to see violet Bick in

0:50:19there she actually took the the Best

0:50:23Supporting Actress Award away from g

0:50:25negin for a different movie of course

0:50:27that's right yeah yeah but the bad and

0:50:29the beautiful but yeah she won this year

0:50:30if if you go to Amazon you can see the

0:50:33trailer for the movie which is like a

0:50:36six-minute thing of sesame the middle

0:50:38talking about the movie and saying we

0:50:40traveled 6,000 miles following the

0:50:43circus you all the step then he goes

0:50:45through you know it's again it's got

0:50:46charlton Charlton Heston we call him

0:50:48Chuck and you know Gloria Grahame and

0:50:51and clowns world-famous clouds and then

0:50:54he starts listing the clowns in each

0:50:55clan has

0:50:56the shot you know just a full head shot

0:50:58in the screen and it keeps going it's

0:51:01like no one will be seated during the

0:51:03dramatic Charlton Heston drives a

0:51:05tractor seat is like and john higgins

0:51:09and peanuts and you know the rules and

0:51:12so much a clown and it well it finally

0:51:15gets to and of course Emmett Kelly and

0:51:18here's a special crown we want to

0:51:20introduce to you

0:51:21buttons i bet you can't recognize who

0:51:23that is beneath the makeup

0:51:25he never takes off that makeup for a

0:51:27mysterious reason will remove it you

0:51:30know

0:51:31oh god you're painting quite the word

0:51:34picture there if you weren't scared of

0:51:37clowns before seeing the trailer you

0:51:39will be actually i have to say i am

0:51:42generally scared of clowns but I'm not

0:51:44scared of sort of the classic clowns

0:51:46because back in those days people still

0:51:48like them and thought they were fun and

0:51:50funny I don't know where along the line

0:51:52constantly became scary but I was

0:51:54alright with these ones until this movie

0:51:56maybe this was a button says very

0:51:59cheerful cheerful clown smile there but

0:52:01he's the crying on the inside kind

0:52:03things until that Higgins plays a clown

0:52:06episode of Magnum where things really

0:52:08turned around so look we want to I mean

0:52:12what what what there's a so so this is

0:52:14as the Ringling Brothers Circus it's

0:52:16being run by Charlton Heston he's an

0:52:18expert at every aspect of the circus as

0:52:20we learned at the very beginning he

0:52:21knows he he has sawdust in his veins

0:52:24Judas Priest that's right all the tricks

0:52:26give the give the elephant's gin and

0:52:28ginger a giraffe has a sore throat just

0:52:30Rama pool cue down yeah give that

0:52:32gorillas some more lettuce and he'll be

0:52:34fine

0:52:35people say he's circus more often than

0:52:37McNulty gets told he's good police you

0:52:40know ya got sawdust to his veins i tell

0:52:44you i want to be circus and those fake

0:52:45circus peanuts he's got those in his

0:52:47veins too that's why it's a very sick

0:52:49meant anyway he running log he runs the

0:52:51Ringling Brothers Barnum base or circus

0:52:53and the and the business types wanted to

0:52:55reduce show because the economy is not

0:52:57very good but he demands that they do a

0:52:59full show and they say well okay as long

0:53:01as it stays in the black and his his

0:53:03great scheme is to bring in the amazing

0:53:06Sebastian the great Sebastian but not

0:53:09amazing Jason know he's the great

0:53:11Sebastian is a decent really what he's

0:53:13artists / lothario

0:53:16Oh Barry yeah but he's got that he's got

0:53:20some good blood wheelers laid by he's

0:53:22played by Cornel Wilde and i always want

0:53:24to say played by Cornell west which

0:53:25would be a totally different than it

0:53:28would be under mirror

0:53:30yeah I'd watch that movie anyway he's

0:53:32got a girl he's got a girlfriend and

0:53:34she's a trapeze artist and she's very

0:53:36upset because the great Sebastian comes

0:53:38in

0:53:39ok so can I interrupt here just because

0:53:41I'm never really sure if holly is

0:53:44actually Brad's girlfriend or if she's

0:53:47just kind of declared by Fiat that she

0:53:48is inbred hasn't bothered to correct her

0:53:50because he certainly doesn't show her

0:53:52any any that's because he's a retired

0:53:55circus

0:53:55yeah he can't show favoritism no he

0:53:58can't he's trying to keep the circus

0:54:00alive

0:54:01the circus is his mistress is dating

0:54:04lady circus and just sold a weird

0:54:07stalker it's it's it's it's almost like

0:54:10she's this unhinged remember him like

0:54:11Wayne's World Laura flynn boyle is the

0:54:13deranged ex-girlfriend follows waiting

0:54:15around like that's kinda / got off of

0:54:17Holly following brown around the

0:54:18greatest show on earth it's it's it's

0:54:20almost like it's over Holly he would

0:54:23have said and she's off Brad and then

0:54:25you know flung herself around on the

0:54:27trampoline song a few songs and it would

0:54:29have gone out of her pea brain so she

0:54:31really kind of reminded me of sean young

0:54:32so yeah stalker you get ya

0:54:35not really not really grounded in

0:54:37reality the Betty hunter character now

0:54:39of course she's not grounded she's

0:54:41attractive because she's on ya I want to

0:54:44thank everybody hot and really quickly

0:54:46and that she at least has shoulders that

0:54:49imply she could be a trapeze artist

0:54:51yes she did a lot of her own stunts

0:54:53actually I learned that in the six and a

0:54:55half minute trailer

0:54:56she's a great shape a lot of movies

0:54:59would just cast East girl and say

0:55:01pretend she's a trapeze artist but she

0:55:04looks like she could actually do some of

0:55:06the thing our character WMC she I think

0:55:08this is the first time in history that

0:55:11someone has defended and actresses work

0:55:14by saying she has the shoulders first

0:55:16shoulders

0:55:18so she gets kicked out of the center

0:55:21ring by the great Sebastian and that

0:55:23makes her very upset with Charlton

0:55:25Heston but not with the great Sebastian

0:55:27who she turned absolutely her affections

0:55:29to including the line that was the one

0:55:32that Lauren and I had to stop the movie

0:55:33for a little bit which is where she says

0:55:35the great Sebastian you can hit me if

0:55:37you like that it won't change how I feel

0:55:39about you

0:55:40I wow yeah

0:55:45low self-esteem much there oh no it's

0:55:48when it's when it's when angel goes to

0:55:49make bread coffee inches lol you know do

0:55:51you feel like you want to bite someone

0:55:53who says yes and you as well pick your

0:55:54spot and feel like I'm like codependence

0:55:57and the circus freaks they love

0:55:59wow there's there's a great moment in

0:56:02that scene to where the the wisdom of

0:56:04actually hiring circus performers to be

0:56:06actors is questioned where Holly yet

0:56:08here's yells Tuffy tear down my rigging

0:56:12and Tuffy just cheerful as the day is

0:56:14long goes ok yeah it almost see the

0:56:18thumbs up its off-screen but you can

0:56:20totally feel it it's too cold Tuffy love

0:56:30that Tuffy now I understand why this

0:56:32movie was this picture now me now you

0:56:34get it now your job is the glue that

0:56:36holds this movie or at least tears its

0:56:39ringing okay we missed an important plot

0:56:48point here which is that there's a

0:56:50there's a shadowy criminal who Charlton

0:56:53Heston refuses to let sully the

0:56:57reputation of the of the circus played

0:57:00by Lawrence Lawrence Durrell back by

0:57:02lawrence tyranny of reservoir dogs fame

0:57:04yeah yeah and so they he cleans up the

0:57:06the Midway there's like thieves out

0:57:08there and there's a guy who's robbing

0:57:09people in one of the one of the little

0:57:11booths and he kicks them out and he's

0:57:13like oh I'm gonna get you child neston

0:57:15and and in the end they uh.they he

0:57:19employs the services of Klaus the

0:57:21demented elephant trainer who jealous

0:57:24control system because angels

0:57:26changed her affection to Charlton Heston

0:57:28because EML anyway

0:57:31yeah because it's all Sebastian's fault

0:57:32totally likes class for his elephants

0:57:34there's a lot of Love's lost and

0:57:37craziness

0:57:38it sounds way more intriguing than it

0:57:40actually yeah I'm actually kind of liked

0:57:42the story if something this was written

0:57:44out as a novel with West circus stuff

0:57:47and more character development

0:57:49I probably would have enjoyed it is just

0:57:51sort of like a fluffy beach read but as

0:57:54it was the performances were so bad that

0:57:56there's a movie i mean if you said hey

0:57:58what if we did a movie that showed you

0:58:00backstage at the circus and they're

0:58:02surprising drama and there's human you

0:58:04know human emotions and and you know all

0:58:08this stuff it's gonna be really great

0:58:09material I'd be like okay I could see

0:58:10that I don't love circuses but I could I

0:58:12could totally see that it would not be

0:58:14this movie though this would not hear be

0:58:17you can't not have the circus

0:58:19performances in this film though because

0:58:20without that you don't get the best part

0:58:22of the movie which is the audience

0:58:23reaction shots

0:58:24Oh with Bob Hope and Bing Crosby I just

0:58:29really wanted ice cream after watching

0:58:30all this gravity oh yeah fact I eat ice

0:58:33cream

0:58:33oh yeah thats why it on the ice cream he

0:58:36is riveted and he's got a whole big dome

0:58:38of ice cream and he takes like two bites

0:58:40and it's gone and it's a kid sitting

0:58:43next to him just totally unimpressed

0:58:45yeah it's it's funny you should say that

0:58:47the the story itself separate from the

0:58:50movie would be good

0:58:52back in 1952 1953 they actually had

0:58:55categories for Best Writing of a story

0:58:58and best writing of the actual movie and

0:59:01this one food for the best story and the

0:59:05best screenplay went to the Lavender

0:59:07Hill mob mm go figure

0:59:10yes I don't think this is the best story

0:59:12of anything I heard but that either but

0:59:15it was yeah yeah so anyway the bed that

0:59:18the gangster well what else we have your

0:59:19own so there's Jimmy Stewart he's the

0:59:21clown right buttons a cloud button a

0:59:24clown and turns out and fill your fill

0:59:29four years has been telling me about

0:59:30this movie and I've never seen it

0:59:32I made the mistake of agreeing to this

0:59:34topic so now I've seen it and the only

0:59:36thing I know but she gotta kill the

0:59:38things you like that's it only thing I

0:59:40knew about this movie yeah you know what

0:59:42they say

0:59:43who says that buttons who says that

0:59:45unless you kill the thing someone who

0:59:47killed the 51 mm yeah so that was the

0:59:51only thing I knew about this movie was

0:59:52was that and at that moment comes and

0:59:54I'm like who this is but the clown is

0:59:57that yeah sometimes you gotta kill the

0:59:59things you love

0:59:59things you love

1:00:00there's something I think is really cool

1:00:01about the buttons story which is that

1:00:04even though they never show us buttons

1:00:06outside of his makeup we are expected to

1:00:08recognize him in the photo right because

1:00:11obviously we know that Jimmy Stewart I

1:00:13recognized his voice

1:00:15so here's a picture of Jimmy Stewart you

1:00:17guys know who this is right for all the

1:00:20hand holding this movie does this one

1:00:21moment that they said hey we don't

1:00:24really need to show an offside that make

1:00:26that it's jimmy stewart come on

1:00:27well at the time he was probably the

1:00:29biggest actor in the in the movie

1:00:32because this was Charlton Heston's like

1:00:34one of his first film's was certainly is

1:00:36for starring role and Betty Hutton was

1:00:39sort of big at the time but not you come

1:00:42off of annie get your gun right brand

1:00:44this is this is the best decade for her

1:00:47program

1:00:47yeah but did Jimmy Stewart who was by

1:00:50far the superstar of the movie which is

1:00:53why he gets the but the title at the end

1:00:55and James Stewart as buttons a clown

1:00:58clown SC he apparently agreed to do it

1:01:01on the condition that he never took the

1:01:04makeup and the makeup off that you'd

1:01:06never see his real face seriously and

1:01:10that the check cleared before focus on

1:01:12him

1:01:13I've seen that I think the last I think

1:01:15the last 20 minutes of this movie is

1:01:17actually not bad

1:01:18or at least it's it's like a release

1:01:20from the boredom that comes before it

1:01:23and and that's the moment where so

1:01:25Sebastian falls he he's horribly injured

1:01:29teammate Falls roughly two feet into the

1:01:31ground to the ground you passed out as

1:01:33though he landed on a waterbed strangely

1:01:35enough I what I like is how you can see

1:01:36that the little canvas for this stunt

1:01:38guy and you can see and just gently

1:01:40sinking into the mat that's a completely

1:01:41different textures generally sinking he

1:01:43disappears around a lot of give there in

1:01:47that second house hot a few frames

1:01:49earlier anyway so Sebastian it turns out

1:01:52though buttons the clown notices that

1:01:54sebastian has some feeling in his

1:01:57extremities and then his kalai and

1:01:59buttons is a doctor which is how is able

1:02:01to recognize what this is its own FBI

1:02:03agents looking for a doctor who killed

1:02:04his wife or yeah because he also does

1:02:06the doctor had these strange hobby of

1:02:08clowning and the only reason we know

1:02:09this because Philip I actually stopped

1:02:11and red

1:02:12the prop newspaper that Betty Hutton is

1:02:14reading the fishes

1:02:15look here the doctor killed the thing he

1:02:18loved well then the FBI band says that

1:02:22he always dreamed of growing up and

1:02:24leaving and taking all the trainers

1:02:25around as you can so on a hunch I'm just

1:02:27gonna follow the shortfall of my own

1:02:29expense account what the hell right

1:02:30exactly

1:02:31I'm the only government work can you

1:02:33imagine the razzing he got from his

1:02:34co-workers like you know they're busy

1:02:36busting speakeasies or-or-or

1:02:39segregationists or whatever and they're

1:02:41like how is the clown detail going buddy

1:02:43looks like the reporter in the in the

1:02:45incredible hulk TV series he was on the

1:02:47Hulk beat ya he was not well regarded

1:02:50his paper it's just expense account

1:02:52abuse is what's happening both of these

1:02:53cases to get on the train and there's an

1:02:57end a scene with between Charlton Heston

1:02:59and James Stewart where where he

1:03:01basically discovers that he has medical

1:03:03knowledge and points out that there is a

1:03:05an FBI guy who's going to be looking for

1:03:07for taking fingerprints so you might

1:03:09want to make himself scarce however

1:03:11ar-ar-ar villainous underworld thug has

1:03:15has a headset is the developer who do

1:03:20just teamed with Klaus the same blouse

1:03:23decision he and clouds like set the

1:03:25rigging on the on the train so the net

1:03:27raise that there are two trains there's

1:03:29the the train that has all the equipment

1:03:31on it and then there's the follow train

1:03:33yeah and this is more thought than

1:03:35anyone has ever given this so I

1:03:37apologize in advance so they stopped the

1:03:39early train because that has all the

1:03:40money and they're going to Robert and no

1:03:41that's gonna that's gonna get Charlton

1:03:43Heston where it hurts accept that excuse

1:03:46geniuses didn't account for the fact

1:03:48that the other train would be right

1:03:50behind shortly and what happens is that

1:03:54a train wreck of a movie becomes a

1:03:56little tree is the first time I've ever

1:03:58seen a train wreck inside another train

1:04:00wreck which i will give that there is

1:04:02that wonderful moment where you're

1:04:03looking on

1:04:04there's the actual trade wreck their

1:04:05this yes you're overlooking the

1:04:07important moment where Klaus realizes

1:04:09that his beloved what's her name is Joe

1:04:12only screams at 20,000 times in the

1:04:15movie Monty yeah so he has to save her

1:04:18and doesn't my driving the car directly

1:04:19at all yeah the rocket scientist

1:04:22payments on that turn and

1:04:24angel hasn't spent most of the her

1:04:26circus going life moving about the US

1:04:28entry and here's the thing that the

1:04:30money is exactly right

1:04:31his instinct to stop the trade is to

1:04:34drive his truck right in front of the

1:04:36Train and wave hit anyway dramatically

1:04:39oh I can't you see the lights

1:04:42why you're not stopping horrible train

1:04:44crash happens that car gets flipped good

1:04:47to the Lions all escape but it does lead

1:04:51to my favorite shot at the end of the

1:04:52movie which has just closest boot

1:04:54sticking up from the record and a

1:04:56monkey's ER doctor already know for him

1:04:59over his ill-gotten money because it's a

1:05:00big stack of money next to his boots to

1:05:02death with dignity

1:05:04the monkeys are counting now angel is

1:05:10the best part of this movie so anyway

1:05:11that the beauties but the doctors

1:05:13knocked out the circus dr. Charlton

1:05:15Heston is is believed that wounded and

1:05:18bleeding out all the while continuing to

1:05:20bark orders about how to handle he knows

1:05:23how to handle a train crash and save the

1:05:26circus which is really really terrible

1:05:28at delegating Authority because the next

1:05:29train that's undoubtedly coming along a

1:05:31few hours from now is not to be

1:05:33concerned but no no no we have to make

1:05:35the show the show must go on show must

1:05:37go on so he as he's bleeding out he's

1:05:39giving these orders and and but the

1:05:42doctor is knocked out so who's going to

1:05:45save him and he's gonna need a blood

1:05:47transfusion and it turns out that that i

1:05:49can raise a clown the great Sebastian

1:05:51has the right blood type and buttons a

1:05:54clown is dr. and reveals himself there

1:05:59by doing himself to going to prison in

1:06:01order to save charlton well he reveals

1:06:03himself only after only after Holly begs

1:06:05him and MPs reasons that pass beyond

1:06:08understanding in any form

1:06:10he's a sucker for Holly I mean God knows

1:06:13why because she spends the entire movie

1:06:14hysterically proclaiming all of her

1:06:17wants and needs to anyone within

1:06:18striking distance and yet was cool of

1:06:20course Holly maybe her voices in the

1:06:22exact frequency response to like a dog

1:06:24whistle guys it's because he wants to

1:06:26kill her

1:06:27yeah you are

1:06:28did they really really like the great

1:06:31Sebastian's attitude during the blood

1:06:33transfer yeah oh yeah where he he's not

1:06:35gonna be lucky with the ladies now it's

1:06:37being Noble and donating his blood to

1:06:42his romantic rival out of spite and he's

1:06:44still saying things like when you have

1:06:46babies

1:06:47now let me be me looking up into your

1:06:49left yeah he didn't turn it off

1:06:54I don't know about yeah i know i thought

1:06:56that i actually think we train wreck and

1:06:58thereafter is actually really great it's

1:07:00just that you've got to go two hours and

1:07:0120 minutes to get there

1:07:03yeah it's it's the longest episode of

1:07:06The Fugitive ever

1:07:08yeah it's so anyway the FBI man shakes

1:07:11buttons a clown's hand and then put the

1:07:14cuffs on and takes away and what did

1:07:17dark ending for that character I mean he

1:07:20was like the heart of the film for my

1:07:22way through i was just like i love sighs

1:07:24which do you know what they do to do

1:07:25this in clown makeup in the state pen do

1:07:27you suppose they strapped in the

1:07:28electric chair he's got his clown makeup

1:07:30on but i think what they do to child

1:07:32molesters is bad you should see how they

1:07:33treat guys who show up in greasepaint

1:07:35let me put on a show they put him in a

1:07:36really crowded cell with a whole bunch

1:07:38of other clans it's a much more

1:07:42enjoyable movie if you view it as the

1:07:45the origin story for Pennywise the clown

1:07:47from we kill the things we love down

1:07:51here down here at all for doubts hopple

1:07:56so i think i think that isn't child has

1:07:59to Charlton Heston is a hoping that the

1:08:01show go on but this terrible thing and

1:08:03and and all wrapped up here eei he

1:08:05attempts to the tents gone they put up

1:08:07the flag pole for the tent but there's

1:08:09no tent and what's going to do how can

1:08:11you be a circus without a tent but they

1:08:12still have the stands in the whole town

1:08:14that they're going to comes and watches

1:08:16the circus with presumably like the you

1:08:19know the bear with the broken arm and

1:08:21the Lions who ate some of the elephants

1:08:24and all the monkeys we could catch the

1:08:26entire town came to the circus peak us

1:08:29it was either that or they had to help

1:08:30the town marshal with the with a guy who

1:08:33was coming back on the train

1:08:34actually the recent at the town came to

1:08:36the circus is because they were fleeing

1:08:38the liens that are running

1:08:40they were going to sell tickets to see

1:08:44the train wreck which i think is a

1:08:45pretty good idea for 1951 I hear the

1:08:49train wrecks are fascinating and you

1:08:50can't look away look away yeah well I

1:08:52watching all two hours and 33 minutes of

1:08:54this movie and proof of that

1:08:55oh ok here's my here's my review of the

1:08:58greatest greatest show on earth

1:08:59you guys can tell me if this equates

1:09:01with you it's so bad in so many

1:09:03different ways i would say it's one of

1:09:06its it's one of the worst prestigious

1:09:08movies every day i'll say that yes I've

1:09:10seen Frankenstein island

1:09:12I you know I've seen many terrible mst3k

1:09:14movies pound-for-pound this movie has

1:09:17stars and a budget and sisal B DeMille

1:09:21and won the Academy Award and it's bad i

1:09:24mean it's it's like painful bat like

1:09:26steve was it got me very excited when he

1:09:28was talking about how he was sort of

1:09:29mst3k through the first 15 minutes and i

1:09:32watch the first 15 minutes I was like

1:09:33yeah I can see that

1:09:34well you know after about an hour i was

1:09:36like no no the reason that rifftrax

1:09:38hasn't done this movie is that you can't

1:09:40go back about more than 40 minutes in

1:09:42before you have to shut it off and walk

1:09:43away

1:09:44it's not unlike Batman and Robin in that

1:09:46respect we manage that one

1:09:47Lisa and I've always talked about doing

1:09:50that with ten commandments which is

1:09:51another sessle bj movie except it's like

1:09:53foot four hours long i want to say it

1:09:57probably easily cut out an hour and a

1:09:58half and also you will go to hell I I do

1:10:01it every year on Twitter and and I did

1:10:03it years and years before that it's just

1:10:05there was my Easter tradition just do

1:10:07the 10 commandments it's wonderful that

1:10:09the problem with trying to rip this

1:10:10movie is because is that you'll run to

1:10:12the interminable circus scenes and

1:10:15there's only so many things you can say

1:10:16about oh look it's another stupid clown

1:10:18look Dorothy Lamour is singing her

1:10:20contract early mandated song

1:10:22yeah the disney parade was stupid and

1:10:24the disney parade just keeps being

1:10:25stupid and no let's set that what they

1:10:28do the Marie Antoinette parade part that

1:10:30I yeah baffling and confusing like I I

1:10:33was like two people really want to see

1:10:34what was that I enjoy the the two women

1:10:39sitting in the little car waving and

1:10:42smiling to the crowd while they say

1:10:43horribly caddy things to 12 and Holly

1:10:46yeah what the one thing I shame as you

1:10:48this favor is that it has the most

1:10:50delightfully caddy dialogue

1:10:52you will ever find in a motion picture

1:10:54it outside of say the women or uh which

1:10:58we should watch for the officer watch ya

1:11:00the money it is Oscar it's like you're

1:11:03nervous a tooth there's just a lot of

1:11:05backbiting and always a global circus

1:11:07people you know

1:11:08yeah no angels angels great she just

1:11:10keeps swinging just keep swinging the

1:11:11lines left right and Slattery rolls

1:11:13right off me call it tight

1:11:16although she does have the absolute

1:11:17worst come online i think i have ever

1:11:20heard in form of I used to fill my dad's

1:11:23pie piya o let's get to me that like

1:11:25kind of like my closest you get to be

1:11:27speaking some horrible abusive past that

1:11:29she ran away from and she's like a super

1:11:31circus is better than this horrible

1:11:33Truman Capote gothic small-town

1:11:35nightmare i'm living

1:11:36yes Steve that's her that's remove is is

1:11:38yeah she could fill a pipe but we're

1:11:41going to make it really set the mood I

1:11:42thought

1:11:43except for Charlotte intestine didn't

1:11:45think a woman could know we didn't if

1:11:47you know what he likes didn't even know

1:11:49I don't

1:11:50the only thing that will keep me warm as

1:11:51if I'm wrapped in a marriage license why

1:11:53not it would be something new

1:11:55yes it's perfect look it actually in the

1:11:58war I Drive a tank is probably a better

1:12:01come on them to tell my dad that is a

1:12:03good come on there's a steal

1:12:05steven spielberg influence with this

1:12:07movie because this was apparently the

1:12:08first movie I ever watched over remember

1:12:10going to see ya horse uh Charlton

1:12:13Heston's look with the fedora cap and

1:12:15the and the leather jacket very

1:12:17reminiscent of the of another steven

1:12:19spielberg character Oskar Schindler all

1:12:22this bug-eyed reaction shots that he

1:12:24loves so much are just people watching

1:12:25the greatest show on earth

1:12:26yeah that's his direction every time

1:12:29lookup I'm gonna put this light on you

1:12:31imagine you're watching the greatest

1:12:33show ever mention the circus and

1:12:35actually as I was watching the train

1:12:36crash I was like well super 8 was better

1:12:39but in the future I am you know train

1:12:41crash was actually not bad

1:12:43yeah yeah I was I mean you could tell

1:12:44that they were little train cars but no

1:12:47it was just it was a the last 20 minutes

1:12:50of this like I said I I i have no issues

1:12:53with that because that was when all of

1:12:54the it's ago now we need to end our

1:12:56story so now it's like to be steward and

1:12:58the doctor and the FBI guys on the train

1:13:00and they're they're gonna plot in this

1:13:02but elephant handler and he's very angry

1:13:03and there's that you know and it all bit

1:13:06pays off and then somebody's gotta save

1:13:08Charlton Heston that all you know that

1:13:10all was a quite watchable I just you

1:13:13know I must admit I I recognize that

1:13:15this is a terrible terrible terrible

1:13:16film but I i quite enjoyed it

1:13:20oh that's sort of wrap around the good

1:13:22way yeah I enjoyed it too

1:13:24it might just be because I like terrible

1:13:26movies about circuses I like the Elvis

1:13:28movie roustabout and yellow face that's

1:13:30not a circus that's a carnival mr. quite

1:13:35close and I we're gonna have a circus

1:13:36cardiff right this is great

1:13:38oh we're not there 10 shots okay and

1:13:41he's out the dancing fight was bad you

1:13:43know i didn't i didn't hate this movie I

1:13:45I never ever ever want to have to watch

1:13:48it again but i'm very glad that I saw it

1:13:51oh yeah it's a badge of honor just have

1:13:53seen it at the very least

1:13:55yeah and I mean I liked I like I said I

1:13:57i quite liked the story I just hated all

1:13:59the characters except for buttons whom I

1:14:01like a clown and then yeah an angel

1:14:04angel was also good to yes he was there

1:14:06are a couple of shots in the movie i

1:14:08thought were actually pretty cool

1:14:10there's one I can't remember where it

1:14:11happens in the movie which is probably a

1:14:13problem but they're outside the tent

1:14:14arguing about something but the big wall

1:14:18of the tent is open and you can see the

1:14:19circus going on behind them

1:14:21I thought circus makes a good backdrop

1:14:24to a movie

1:14:26I feel like this entire film was filmed

1:14:27in one take you've got you've got circus

1:14:31performers were clearly flooding their

1:14:32lines you've got the shot of the kid in

1:14:36the audience digging into his nose

1:14:38detect very sure that you intend to

1:14:40capture bad guys with your screw it just

1:14:43it just the whole thing seems like it

1:14:44was just thrown together

1:14:45oh you know the one scene where she's

1:14:48doing the flips around she's trying to

1:14:51set a world record in the audience is

1:14:52counting along with her

1:14:54yeah yeah no I forgotten about that

1:14:5615-minute seed I would be pretty bored

1:14:58sitting in a circus tent counting to a

1:14:59hundred i was impressed that the crowd

1:15:02as a whole

1:15:03could could do like a hundred 200 300

1:15:06for those actors lots of syllables for

1:15:08them to keep in unison and they managed

1:15:10to do it

1:15:11this was before fun was invented that

1:15:14was fun you guys

1:15:15haha

1:15:16I like how Charlton Heston runs in and

1:15:19you know is the killjoy and lowers her

1:15:21down and she's so furious that he's

1:15:23lowering her on her first sad now it's

1:15:26like sad little rope tip to be fair he

1:15:28does have clowns running around

1:15:30underneath her like they're gonna catch

1:15:32that just showbiz aspect of it is the

1:15:35most of the people in the crowd liked

1:15:37was that supposed to happen i guess

1:15:38there are clouds yeah i'm getting again

1:15:41not exactly a Death with Dignity when

1:15:43they're not misunderstand little fool

1:15:47only buttons can bring true death

1:15:50dignity

1:15:52he's the only climb with dignity don't

1:15:54worry folks once we fished her out of

1:15:56the water but she'll be fine

1:15:58yeah Emmett Kelly's really kind of a

1:16:00depressing clown

1:16:01yes essentials great ukulele bit kind of

1:16:04his stick

1:16:05he appears without his makeup he appears

1:16:07without his makeup in the movie there's

1:16:09a very brief scene where he's like I

1:16:11think it's on the train wreck where his

1:16:14his face paint which he very rarely

1:16:16allowed himself to be photographed doing

1:16:18but apparently thought so much of this

1:16:19movie that he guys this is it this is

1:16:22what i'm going to do it because we will

1:16:24finally bring dignity to my profession

1:16:26the movie I've always wanted to make and

1:16:28makeup for Jimmy Stewart never taking

1:16:30his office but it's ready to clown world

1:16:32has to balance out clown karma this will

1:16:35be my legacy this in the velvet painting

1:16:37have to admit that Emmett Kelly actually

1:16:38raised a smile once or twice which is

1:16:41more than I can say for any other clown

1:16:43ever

1:16:44well yeah yeah it was a movie yeah sort

1:16:49of i think you'll probably spend longer

1:16:51editing this podcast then they did

1:16:52editing this but i guess i devoted for

1:16:56high noon

1:16:56yeah if you really can't be awarded

1:16:58better I don't even like westerns and i

1:17:00still would have voted for hanging yeah

1:17:01that wasn't a Western though it was it

1:17:03was a human drama within Western

1:17:06backdrop yeah it'sit's don't Western

1:17:08almost westerns were just kids

1:17:10shoot-'em-ups this was about man mature

1:17:13decisions

1:17:14ok then I don't like movies with Western

1:17:16backdrops but they still have taken ok

1:17:18not forsake merica and so I don't like

1:17:23movies set in california i always need a

1:17:25drink of water i don't like I don't like

1:17:26movies near deserts I like movies that

1:17:29were shot where I grew

1:17:30so you know pretty much of its high noon

1:17:31or back to the future part 3 i'm sure i

1:17:34grew up not too far from the source of

1:17:36the Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey

1:17:38Circus so i can't i have to say that no

1:17:41just because I grew up close to they're

1:17:42still in saying that one yeah no you

1:17:45don't need to take credit for the no one

1:17:47needs to take any more credit

1:17:49I apologize for showing her and I

1:17:51apologize from mccarthyism while I'm at

1:17:53it I'm sorry behalf of Wisconsin I

1:17:56apologize

1:17:57how much of this movie was just financed

1:17:59by the Ringling Brothers the whole thing

1:18:00is like an ad for them so um yeah really

1:18:03and John and John Ringling north appears

1:18:05in it he does as himself as himself what

1:18:09range it's strangely they actually feel

1:18:11that he's got enough name recognition

1:18:12that they have Charlton Heston saying

1:18:14get me John north

1:18:15well this is a docudrama this all really

1:18:17happened

1:18:18it's just you know it's a recreation of

1:18:21the great train circus train wreck of

1:18:231948 right all of the people who

1:18:25survived and were eaten by the lion it's

1:18:28a their City told their stories and

1:18:31lived to tell their thai really that is

1:18:32the moment that like that I keep coming

1:18:34back to is that they they have like

1:18:35there's the lions are like jumping out

1:18:37of their cages that one line the kind of

1:18:39struggles to get out of the cage looks

1:18:40kind of like my cat if you know he's

1:18:42trying he's trying to get up on the

1:18:43couch and he's very old neighbors like

1:18:45Kelly come online you can get out there

1:18:47and I'm thinking what happens now that

1:18:49there's probably like because he says

1:18:51check out the guerrillas my glass

1:18:52probably shattered and I'm imagining

1:18:54like gorillas with shards of glass and

1:18:57meanwhile the lions are always pieces

1:18:59incontinent gorillas incidentally

1:19:01because they need enough lettuce yeah

1:19:02the good clients around the sink honest

1:19:05which is blocked up those poor straining

1:19:07girl is are now sitting on the shards

1:19:09and elephants all lit up on gin the fat

1:19:15guy who had to hang out with the hippo

1:19:17because he couldn't fit on any other

1:19:18part of my god that was the one

1:19:20pissed-off giraffe shattering all the

1:19:22pool cues in the local pool hall yeah

1:19:24they said the fact that would be with a

1:19:25hypocrite make me ride with this ship

1:19:27all it seems weird that they didn't have

1:19:29a plan for that they've always got a guy

1:19:31whose entire actors he's pretty fat

1:19:33that's a good line though agenda

1:19:35elephants just who's nate pink humans

1:19:41ladies thank you i liked the bit where

1:19:43somebody asks Dorothy Lamour who's that

1:19:45and she responds oh that's the china and

1:19:47the fat boy

1:19:48just so you know that was that was also

1:19:50CBS drama in the nineteen eighties

1:19:51children in the fifth

1:19:53anybody want to wager as to what the

1:19:55Academy was smoking when they came up

1:19:57with this as the best picture circus

1:19:59peanuts and probably really expensive

1:20:00cigars provided by Cecil B DeMille I

1:20:05think it just felt really big it's a

1:20:06long movie it's super Technicolor it's

1:20:09got animals and it just feels epic i

1:20:11think that was the Oscar bait of the day

1:20:14like it now it's certainly not this type

1:20:16of filming here back then the giant

1:20:18extravaganza it's a spectacle thing you

1:20:20know now it's movies that nobody saw but

1:20:22had their hearts in the right place

1:20:23quality aside this is the movie it's

1:20:25like you will be in the circus and you

1:20:27will see the whole circus and the

1:20:29stories around the circus I mean I get

1:20:31it

1:20:31it is a big idea yeah which raises the

1:20:34question of why I would want to do that

1:20:35trainwreck was in innovative for its

1:20:37time the the shooting of them

1:20:39it's not often you can make a toy model

1:20:41look that spectacularly but mostly they

1:20:43were smoking the we don't want we don't

1:20:45want the house and American Activities

1:20:47Committee to come out let's give the

1:20:49statute to the nice old man who makes

1:20:51circus movies

1:20:52yes a couple years later the winner was

1:20:54around the world in 80 days which is

1:20:56also not a very good movie that is

1:20:58certainly Technicolor and spectacular

1:21:01and and a quick cast of thousands you

1:21:03like the fact that their vote against

1:21:04High Noon kind of makes the whole point

1:21:06of that film

1:21:07yeah yeah yeah we're not standing with

1:21:09him either

1:21:10how about that yeah he should've left

1:21:13shouldn't have been a movie no irony

1:21:15here

1:21:17alright I Phil what it would say you

1:21:20have we have we covered this topic to

1:21:23your satisfaction i think i think it is

1:21:24done and dusted I think we have said

1:21:26more words about the greatest show on

1:21:28earth in it then it merits and I that I

1:21:30can only hope that we have stoked

1:21:32people's interest in watching the other

1:21:34two movies which are very good yes and

1:21:38very peppy and on evening well spent i

1:21:41agree with that and if we have brought

1:21:42just a little joy into your otherwise

1:21:44humdrum lives we know all our hard work

1:21:47it been in vain for nothing as the

1:21:50trailer for the greatest show on earth

1:21:51said I think this podcast is quote

1:21:53unquote

1:21:54for the happiness of the world yeah wow

1:21:58yeah wow so what you're saying is this

1:22:01podcast is the greatest show on earth

1:22:02that is that what I think but the

1:22:05transitive property yes indeed

1:22:07I'm all raised me into the air again

1:22:09because you are circus m2 and

1:22:13comfortable the greatest podcast on

1:22:15earth the tiger podcast running through

1:22:17my veins you not forsake me oh my

1:22:19darling didn't do i have to say i have

1:22:26not taken off my clown makeup is I'm

1:22:30sorry that you played music throughout

1:22:31things when they were coming to a close

1:22:33David feed those gorillas Phil not

1:22:36forsake me or my podcast got a tight you

1:22:39gotta tighten up the Riggin over there

1:22:41Lisa those uh those monkeys

1:22:43I need some lettuce and sugar i only

1:22:47like you for your elephant is the ginned

1:22:52up my clown face will be the last thing

1:22:56you see before you die

1:22:58haha sometimes you gotta kill the things

1:23:04you love film i just realized something

1:23:09you know you know why Holly wasn't

1:23:10concerned about being killed by buttons

1:23:12a clown what because clowns are funny

1:23:14people they only love once that's

1:23:17righted that's true that is actually the

1:23:20only funny thing about clouds all right

1:23:24we're gonna close up the old movie club

1:23:261952 I think we rated rated the wrong of

1:23:30the Oscars now take that Senator

1:23:32McCarthy that's right

1:23:34Hollywood Hollywood fat cat sitting in

1:23:38their homes i like to imagine this kid

1:23:40coming home saying mom I got arrested he

1:23:42gave me a puppy can I keep it all part

1:23:49of the greatest show on earth to board

1:23:52the greater show on earth when the Lions

1:23:54came to live in our town the greatest

1:23:56show on the move

1:23:57so what we'll wrap up old movie club

1:24:02here i wonder what field will have for

1:24:04us next time i'm a little scared after

1:24:06this this go-round but again we got we

1:24:08saw again like we did last time to good

1:24:09movies and then we also saw nothing that

1:24:13was that was fun and it's so weird maybe

1:24:16it's a 667 average and that would get

1:24:18you into the Hall of Fame like that

1:24:20yeah it's a hall-of-fame kind of thing

1:24:22definitely

1:24:23alright i would like to thank my guess

1:24:24for for participating in the silliness

1:24:27and watching these movies which was a

1:24:29lot of fun

1:24:30Monty Ashley thank you for being here ok

1:24:32David Laura thank you insert claim joke

1:24:39here

1:24:39Oh fair enough Steve what's thank you

1:24:42it's all for nothing Jason it's all

1:24:45Erica and sign thanks for coming back

1:24:52thank you you know i just wish that

1:24:54podcast guest appearances paid because

1:24:56then i'd make more money than Calvin

1:24:58Coolidge put together

1:25:00Oh what am I dama some moisturizer you

1:25:08did Lina Lamont in our radio drama you

1:25:11basically did that voice I did yes thank

1:25:13you for being here if he should thank me

1:25:16for not document lil mama hope I yeah I

1:25:18stands and you know she actually does

1:25:24get better at talking throughout that

1:25:25movie like she does issues rounded vowel

1:25:28she just can't change your voice I think

1:25:30that's a great time around low tools and

1:25:34that leaves five so goodbye to everybody

1:25:36except for Michaels fill at earlier on

1:25:38you said that you would be in my Posse

1:25:40and stop these guys when the train comes

1:25:42but I couldn't get anybody else can hear

1:25:44you still with me I've got a wife and

1:25:46family I'm out of here

1:25:47Oh angel is not that trade oh well

1:25:51there's nothing to be done

1:25:52thanks for putting together the old

1:25:53movie club but you're very welcome i

1:25:55regret nothing yeah thanks Phil

1:26:00all right everybody out there listening

1:26:03to this we're uh very happy if you've

1:26:06decided see high noon or singing in the

1:26:08rain and if you watched the other one

1:26:11well wait for the rifftrax your own

1:26:14fault

1:26:15no refunds until next time I remain just

1:26:19until your host alone at the train

1:26:21station waiting for the men to shoot me

1:26:22goodnight goodnight