00:00:01 ◼ ► the Intolerable number 166 November 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► podcast I'm your host Jason smell and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► hope we haven't disappointed you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► you said to yourself you know about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► uncomfortable I stopped listening after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► like a hundred because it it just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► know it didn't work for me anymore well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► I'm glad you somehow turn you into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/25">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► episode disappointments i think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► particularly in books we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► talking about authors and series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► have disappointed us in some way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► may have made us say I'm gonna I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► walk away and then why we would we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► we would say those things and i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/48">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► topical reference that I'm gonna drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► that's the other part of this subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► introduce my panel of lovely people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/55">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► sunshine of my life mr. happy himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/63">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► it's scott McNulty high sky hello Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► club man i'm applying hi already I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/71">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► uncomfortable all of a sudden okay fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► enough fair enough and Morgan is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► here the morons like my security blanket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► he's on every podcast so that i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► it's a podcast hi dan I'm the Linus of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► this i guess now you're not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► I rely this and you're like it let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► I'm more of a wet blanket i Jason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/95">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► I'm Snoopy's will be very quiet tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► network this is not the peanuts episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► don't be clear about that and Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/109">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► well mr. Mizer maybe this is the peanuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/119">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► someone had to be the adult so bad great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► yeah it's a it's lisa of course now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► all go cook kick a football it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► no we don't we try to kick a football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► then I got tired of kicking the football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► after about the seventh time I gave up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► alright so I want to start with talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► about Orson Scott Card only because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► this game is coming out and every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► bring up Orson Scott Card people give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► various reactions one of them is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► they don't like you know he's outspoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► about he donated money to go to prop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► eight in California he's a he's a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► of the mormon church but he's also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► outspoken in lots of ways against sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► of gay rights and a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► really down on him for that may want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► boycott the movie and they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/171">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► boycott his books i've also got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► undercurrent from a lot of people which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/174">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► is just like I loved ender's game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► maybe speaker for the dead and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► just kept writing you know he wrote like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► a whole other trilogy of books said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► that universe ecology JC yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► Rolla g2 diminishing returns and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► wrote he wrote some other series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► people dropped out so so I i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► start with him not only because like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► said entered under steam is coming out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► I mean really for the first time since i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► read it and whenever 1991 ready for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► first time and I've read a dozen of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► books probably and you know I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► mean people give up on writers and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/211">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► different reasons with with card it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► more complicated because who the guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► as opposed to just the quality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► work overtime but in some ways I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► that's just a valid that that are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► ideas of who this person is who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► you're taking this journey with who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/231">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► that the writer that you're replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► you know that that that can be relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► to its not just not knowing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► about the writer and just judging them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/241">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► on the page so i just want to start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/242">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► mentioning him and saying that i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► ender's game and you know what I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► liked it when I reread it I i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► i think it's a fascinating interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► weird really weird but good a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► and in some ways I think it's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► shame that all of the stuff that Orson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► Scott Card has done have turned so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► people off on him since then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► rightly or wrongly I'm not even saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► that just because you know i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► that work and actually speaker for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► dad were pretty good and the movie looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► definitely syfy it up a lot so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► know if you guys have read at red card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► and what your takes on understand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► card in general are but I thought we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► what do you think the selfish part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► brain always wonders if there's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► for me to read these authors it in such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► financially from my attention it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/297">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► yeah well yes because um water library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► library mostly i'm still in if i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/305">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► kind of trying to unpack it and tease it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► because this goes beyond science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► conflicted feelings about enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► michael jackson's music as much as I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/317">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► I'm really uneasy about everything down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► and pay attention to roman polanski film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► for much of the same reason and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/328">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► separate an artist from their work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► should you even want to I and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► answer i've been able to come to with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► that is that it helps to know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► artist is coming from or what might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► driving their work but at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► it's a two-way relationship so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► choose to take things from it that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► may not have intended for you to ahhhh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► the thing that I get out of speaker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► the dead for example is the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► repent it a lot of speaker of the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► is about the concept of repentance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► right in the right way to do intensely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► moral things and the wrong way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► intensely more things and I think in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► sort of weird funhouse way it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► come back onto the card where he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► these convictions that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► are going to find repellent but it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/382">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► you know he's acting like on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► convictions and whether or not you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► it's wrong it's up to you but I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/390">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► conversation from whether or not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► should read orson scott card or or or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► I think I think you kind of have to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► the work and the the crater formed on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/402">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► ok what do you think can we separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► yard from the artist should we I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► just going to say leesa's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► it's for me it's a case-by-case thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► you know i can look at card you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► I've never read ender's game i've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► exactly one or skirt Orson Scott Card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/422">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► book and it was the abyss and partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► that was because i was interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► movie didn't see the movie but when hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► a real science fiction author did this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► name science fiction author to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► so I right you know I'll read it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► was good you know is fine but he's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► know he's working from Cameron's script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► and so I thought well you know what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► is he written know I've heard of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► number this but I you know I'd kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► burnt out on syfy at the time and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► time I came back to syfy I knew much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► more about him and went yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► really need to read his stuff but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► there i mean there are other artists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► you know like Michael Jackson it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► hard now for me to listen to him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► even in the midst of when he was alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► and on trial and all those things was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► still there is there's a thing of oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► it's still good music you know well I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► when I go to art galleries and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► these are the paintings by these amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► artists i mean III went to the vanco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/489">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► exhibit in the Rijksmuseum and in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► amsterdam and my god but he did his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► brother 50 the end you know we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/498">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► Picasso and invited but Pingo is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/503">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► amazingly just a amazing artist but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/507">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► illness and he was miserable to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/514">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► people around him and you know at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► point I don't know do they have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► dead and gone before you can finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► accept the art is what it is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► doesn't really matter is it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► adjust that they're out there and alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► and benefiting from your patronage or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► is it more insidious than that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► to think that you know every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► look at the van Gogh painting are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► are you thinking about you know this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► be pretty but it's also devastating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► mental illness and it destroyed his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► relationships with other people i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► know i think it depends on why you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► engaging with the art I mean if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► engaging with the art because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► hoping to use it to build a better sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► of who you are and what your self is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► like you're expecting the art to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► you clarify your moral or intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► framework for your help looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► tow to reaffirm or flush out who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► think you are then yeah maybe it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/563">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► matter why this person created what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► created because you're using that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► build your own value system but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► perceived literary artistic value in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► other words you're like I want this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► try and open my mind and provide me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► insight into the human condition or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► world at large outside of outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► confines of my head I I i need i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► searching for a way to look at the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► or a way to reframe the way I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► the world because I I can't just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► looking at things in the same way then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► you could argue that doesn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► the person is like who makes the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► what matters is how your what matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► how you perceive it and what and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► you take away what person how your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► perspective has shifted and what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► taking away from that because if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► because the thing is if you go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/613">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► life thinking of the human cost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► you'll never be able to step into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► cathedral in Europe because then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► thinking oh my god generation upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► generation of surface that that limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► mud and crap and all they did was spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► the entire life carving freezes its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► horrifying you can look at like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► recognizing that the human effort or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/631">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► Virginia you can admire how beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► it's laid out and you can take a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► what Thomas Jefferson made and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► remember this is the guy who mortgage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► slaves and refuse to free them upon his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► death because he managed his estate so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► poorly and the method lessons you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► away from that just depend on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► you're looking for i think right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/652">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► it's it's funny you mentioned van Gogh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► because a couple years ago I wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► play about Van Gogh and so I ain't grid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► way too many of his letters and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► it's interesting because you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► time the rest of the art world looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► him and went you can't paint what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► outright as being art it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► conversations go again and you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/679">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► these impressionist since is on and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► know and so I mean tempt me his history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► is really tragic i don't look at his art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/689">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► and worried about his life because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/694">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► everything about his life was tragic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/698">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► because of the mental illness and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► because of the way people were reacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► to him but you know someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► intentionally going out and harming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► others or is espousing beliefs that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► exclusionary to others you know tip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► me that that's more of an intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► thing on their part and so it's harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► for me to look at their art and separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► that out it's like okay what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► trying to say with the art that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► making are you trying to send a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► or are you truly be no objective and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► separate from the artwork of the art you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► know the book or the movie or music or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/737">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► interesting interesting distinction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► you know whether it's in their lives or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► whether they're actually trying to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► their artists Enda a message is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► message questionable dan and Scott you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► have been silent I i consider you i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► you guilty i was waiting quietly yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► well as it i think Lisa hit the nail on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► the head with a sort of what what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► you trying to do with this and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► questionable motivations associated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► it i mean i'm not suggesting everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► go out and read mine comp but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► valuable thing to read it just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► perspective or from a you know incisive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► you know looking at what is what goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► into the construction of AP work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► this or you know the films of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► right install be whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► sort of the truth there's plenty of art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► that has been made but nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► dammit i also had a Nazi reference and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► was going to make so I ch3 ch2 the Nazis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/798">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► yeah first one to the Nazis terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/804">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► first one the Nazis losses I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► don't have card it's interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► i obviously i read him at I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/817">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► 13 or 14 or something before i had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► idea of who he was as a person i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► afterwards and I stopped reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► first series because I just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► thought it was dull like I read ender's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► game I loved ender's game that's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► my mind one of the first examples I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► sort of remember of like the twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► ending you know and waiting and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► surprised by an ending but I went on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► red speaker for the dead and look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► isn't like ender's game this is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/844">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► and I never went on to the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► books in that series because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► didn't i didn't really care for speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► I did however read that entire second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► series of Enders books in the shed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► beam and roxrite the a shadow the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► what and and basically I Alec Baldwin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► was a strange choice to play being but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► in my mind like those always sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► slotted in somewhere below ender's game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► but someone above somewhere above maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► the rest of the original Ender's Game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► trilogy even though I didn't read all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► i I just I like they're not great but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► entertaining in the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► might read like a Tom Clancy novel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► know and and to me that's you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► had a value in that any tom clancy's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► even a bad point himself like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► there are plenty of writers who are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► don't politically agree with I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► which is you know maybe a step and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► not as serious from like someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► actively espousing beliefs that are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► are hateful right but I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► lot of Peter you certainly read a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► writers who you would disagree with on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► many issues and so the question becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► where to draw that line you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/911">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► i'm not going to read anything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► know by anybody who doesn't agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► me because you're not only doing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► doing yourself a disservice among other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/918">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► things right your not exposing yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/919">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► to other ideas whether they be awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► ideas or not we're not saying they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► certain extent it's not good to wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► yourself off because in many ways that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► what those people are doing right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/930">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► know if your spouse completes their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► beliefs their openly hateful and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► rejecting these other things out of hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/935">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► you're in some ways no better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► then if you're just saying i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► read things that I agree with or authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► who is your perspectives i agree with so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► I I think for me I try really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► divorce the author I mean it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► going to inform it to a certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► but i'd rather judge the work on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► merits of the work so that way when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► watch like a Michael Bay movie can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► like this is awful and I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► that cuz i disagree with michael bay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► rather because i think this is bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► you know to me that's where it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► comes down to is I i think it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► knowing of you know the author's opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► but and and perhaps letting that color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/973">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► your analysis of it print potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► but i don't think we should necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► say we're going to boycott everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► that we don't agree with because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► know that does sort of a head down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► well-intentioned fashion similar gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► I mean that that's not the point I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► always made about any boycott is at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/996">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► because you could draw that line in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► sorts of ridiculous places there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► people who are like I I heard you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► there's some people we work with dan who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► ever i heard you say something bad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► this political group that i like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► therefore i'm never going to read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► stuff again it's like okay I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► could do whatever you want but at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► point it's just ridiculous and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► right you know you should we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► tolerant at least your point of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► people who have got different reason I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► understand that at some point it crosses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► a line and that line is very is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► hazy you could choose not to read things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► that you really like make you I mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► make you uncomfortable or you that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► just don't like i mean i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► that's perfectly valid you know it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► in the interesting thing is always to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► like there are plenty of books in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► there are think on tent that people find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► directly objectionable like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► I don't know you know I've know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► little about like Stig Larson and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► was a person but I know plenty of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► who can read his books because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► thought that it was just a warrant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► kind of stuff that he detailed yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► level of detail of the computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► books as quick update some whore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► raizy offense Scott I know you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► very detailed rubric that you use when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► determining what books are going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► and whether the authors can pass your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► strict ideological tests right i well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► know I i go about judging authors much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► I seen that everyone is awful because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► you know the more you find out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► the less you like them gently in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► experience the Raymond Chandler but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► you like the book don't meet the author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► exactly so I don't I don't I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► to know anything about the authors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► i read about because it invariably I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► will find out like some book that i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► is written by some giant racist who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► hates everybody that will just ruin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► book for your against Giants I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► really devastated when I found out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► marion zimmer bradley had been married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► to a pederast and defended him for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► I i was very sad about the whole laura [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► ingalls wilder and how she's arranging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► libertarian yeah i got i was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► my parents about that the other day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► I still now I just feel ya you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► want to know about it and it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► too much information you're right Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► it's um i would recommend people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► interact with authors whose books a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► treasure on Twitter that's no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► good advice you might say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► negative about a well-known sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► writer who's also books in a series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► kind of didn't go as well later on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► then it then you interact with him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► discovered that he's kind of a mean jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► it happens which is a pity because I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► like one of his books very much should i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► yeah and again it's like let's just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► those separate I can't i mean i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► think anyone can go through life without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► separating the author from there or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► artist from their work in some degree or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► another because awful people make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► beautiful things just happens and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► can appreciate the beautiful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► without agreeing with what the awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► person does and and vice versa right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► I mean so sure i don't agree with Orson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► Scott Card's views on many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► but i also think he wrote a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► book that people should read I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► know if the movie will be any good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► i'm not going to not see it because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► don't agree with what Orson Scott Card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► things right here we got paid he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► probably got very little in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► royalties beyond the option for the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► so you're not actually financially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► harming him by not going and seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► right he's already been paid that I once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► went to see Orson Scott Card talk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► people should be happy to know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► said he is unhappy writing science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► fiction and he wants to direct plays so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► just writing these books to cash it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► so all right let's take a minute away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► from disappointment to talk about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► disappointment into excitement over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► very cool sponsor its warby parker they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► are the rebels of quality I where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► make really cool vintage inspired I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► glasses regular glasses and sunglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► Warby Parker believes that glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► should not cost as much as an iphone as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► a brand new iphone their prescription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► glasses start at $95 that includes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► prescription lenses they're super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► lightweight titanium collection starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► at only 145 including the lenses every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► pair you get from warby parker has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► anti-reflective in anti-glare coating no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► they don't charge you another hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► bucks for that or anything like that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► additional charge for Parker makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► buying glasses online easy and risk-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► this is how they do it they have what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► called the home try-on program it lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► you order five pairs of glasses as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► as five different pairs that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► now maybe I look good in that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► ship them to you and you can try them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► at home you can show them to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► friends you can show them to your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► you get to keep those 45 days and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► send them back free using the prepaid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► return shipping label and then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► place an order for your final pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► the one that you like the best out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► those five let's say they get started on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► them right away you'll have them within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► 10 business days so it's internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► shopping without the risk which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► warby parker cool vintage inspired I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► they started $95 including the lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► you can get them to call your eye doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► and get your prescription if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► so here's what you do go to warby parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► com wa rby parrkerr warby parker calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► smell my name and select your five home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► try-on frames use that promo code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► once your glasses ship you'll get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► glasses within three days by using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► offer code smell so again warby parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► the rebels of quality I we're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► internet no risk to you try at home up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► to five pairs go to warby parker calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► smell and check it out and thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► warby parker and they're very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► uncomfortable so ender's game you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► Scott mentioned it I i just read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► again it's it's good it's really good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► think the themes are interesting i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► interesting future time eight there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► there's some subtle things in it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► didn't really get when I was you know 19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► or 21 i read it that I got this time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► he doesn't he doesn't very good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► in it in terms of setting the stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► giving you you know not telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► everything about the state the worlds in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► but you you very slowly realize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► messed up this world is because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► been invaded a couple of times by aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► it's got a lot of interesting themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► yeah there's stuff in it that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► knowing something about the author you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► look at i highlighted align that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► talking about Battle School there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► few girls they don't often passed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► test to get in too many centuries of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► evolution are working against them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► yes that's right ladies you've evolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► to not be in Battle School sorry its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► what can you do something in there about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► all the all the generals in the military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► forces being Jewish which I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► bizarre but there's also some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► I you know the fact that it ends but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► fact that it ends not with the rousing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► victory but with the fact that it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► been a trick and start spoiler horn for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► ender's game which was released a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► million years ago I 1985 what I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► what I really like about the way it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► is that it ends up being you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► committed genocide Venus or Serena sighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► yeah and he and him dealing with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► and like realizing that he can't stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► around earth anymore and I I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► thought it was you know fascinating in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► that way too so that I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► lot of it and you could do an entire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► know you could do an entire episode the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► uncomfortable you could do it an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► book club at your house invite some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► people over and talk about the themes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► the book at it I i really do it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► bad that it's gotten caught up in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► ways because although I I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► it's perfect and I do think there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► be things that people could have jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► to in it automatically it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► entertaining to read and it's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► lot in it so that's a shame because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► is i mean he card didn't just shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► himself in the foot you know he shot his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► his catalog in the foot by making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► claims that he made in the and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► himself unpopular and it's too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► because I I'm interested in seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► movie and the book was really great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► so that's my there's my book report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► that's the yeah yeah it's too bad even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► even even that's that sort of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► like even people who arguably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► terrible views can produce a work of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► great beauty which this you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► the sad truth of what I hit the nail on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► the head there you know it is there lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► of awful people who made amazing art and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► I i feel like the one thing I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► is people being reluctant to compensate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► awful people who are still alive for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► aren't they made because they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► to give them money even if the art is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► what it is they don't want to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► their this awful person's life i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► that i guess but i don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► there's a terrific story by harlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► ellison I anything of wonderful big yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► at once it's in the book strange wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► and it's called Hitler painted roses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► visits he'll basically and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► he goes in but the gates crack open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► little bit and at the end of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► he just sees the most beautiful painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► his ever seen and it's just gonna roses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► all over this wall and he looks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► artist is you know chart and horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► and any and that turns and he realizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► yeah and it's the most beautiful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► he's ever seen as the gates of Hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► clothes and that's the end of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► and it was like well Harlan would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► how how I I say that with a shelf of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► Harlan Ellison and yet but your feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► yep this is why I never follow any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► favorite authors on Twitter don't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► no no no do not do it the only authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► that I fall I follow I I do follow Neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► game and john scalzi on Twitter and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► like I feel like what they're doing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► Twitter so divorced from their actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► work that I can do that but if it was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► I even then i get some some trepidation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► about it's like do I really wanna spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► a lot of time thinking about neil gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► and and his wife and and all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► different projects and how peculiar I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► think his wife is the more I learn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► your game in the the more the more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► don't want to know that the more warped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► the lens to the job because I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► to know I i enjoyed him when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► yeah I mean oh oh for the days when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► would get a book and you would see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► name on the cover and you would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► nothing about who this person was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► you just read the book and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► yeah I didn't know it was an expert or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► who this is why i love it when TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► runners leave twitter is is I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► it's best for Ike I think it's best for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► professionals don't engage with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► audience on that level because I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► that it creates the kind of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► contemptuous of of this person oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► this this person whose work I analyzed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► has feet of clay burnham he's a witch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► and I feel like it also introduces a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► professionals process we're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► changes their voice and it changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► and so I don't want that i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► feel like there should be any need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► find out what Neil Gaiman amanda palmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► up to on any given sunday morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► yeah it's like when Damon Lindelof lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► Twitter the other week smart in there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► was very smart of him but he he did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► with a tweet that's unfinished right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► he's just stops in the middle of a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► kind of the sopranos that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► oh my god that's great but I saw a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► bunch of people go me and he couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► even end that well it's like what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► point that was the point because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► guys know I recap sons of anarchy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► yeah and this is the reason I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► follow Kurt Sutter on twitter is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► want to know I don't I i actually do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► feel the need to to find out what any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► those cats associate with the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► thinking or how they're interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► fans because on Twitter their job is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► present a persona that sells their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► product and I'd rather just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► look at the show on its own merits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► instead and we hate p sub tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► another TV critic friend of mine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► other week another one in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► have to work because he yes and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► here's the thing and I say this and next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► thing you know I'm gonna be like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► never ever said anything about word that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► I've written so I think he's not aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► of my existence and that's like under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► the readers gonna follow him is to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► sure that like I never I never come I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► never crossed the kurt sutter radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► that's kind of sad in some ways because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► you know i was just i followed Damon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► Lindelof you're just talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► and like he was actually hilarious for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► reasons that had nothing to do with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► purple yes work and like that's the sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► thing is that we never do his his awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► reply stream which was full of jerks all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► i can hear you that's not entirely true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► because actually he retweeted oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► right a bit but you know there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► thing about that there is a you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► issue with that where it's just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► like what do you do you know how it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► an author or creator be on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► just be like talking about their mundane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► stuff or just even that develop grit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► sand and Scott and I try very hard not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► to follow Sean Maguire on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► because I might have my humanize her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► then we wouldn't we would be sad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► saying mean things about all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► well as we're recording this a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► mirror grant book was released released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► parasite so get ready i'm not really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/1855">TS</a>]
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00:38:27 ◼ ► like say 12 and 14 year olds having sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► with adults and that's just a cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► thing and i was looking back you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► head explodes because I'm 16 or 17 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► he also explores the notion that gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► is fluid and you should have the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► of changing your biology to reflect you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► feel like you're inside and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► remarkably for forward-looking treatment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► of gender in the seventies and eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► and he had a lot of pretty caustic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► interesting things to say about society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► building Rolling Thunder just made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► sad because again it feels like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► after after years of sensitive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► intelligent assessments of the wage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► gender and society are our bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► feedback loop it turns into oh she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► she's a 6-foot Martian who hates to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► he's an idiot savant wonder who invents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► hyperspace travel together they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► yes bring their way through 3rd web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► ya know it was just it was just it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► like a betrayal of everything that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► had done in his earlier work where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► had had these very nuanced picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► pictures of the weight of why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► choose to have relationships and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► reduced and said his titular heroin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► this this this bouncy sex object I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► really kind of offended by that at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► incredibly generous person who gives to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► charity and notice people at the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► wonderful person how dare you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► terrible things about no wait wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► second that's not that's the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► podcast Scott do you have anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► well author really haha in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► I have to redo a lot of worry and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► say I know the first five pages or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► an overdose show you this is a creepy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► I well I think that there is a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► classic one that I know I'm not the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► person who thinks that Frank Herbert oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► yes he has written a masterpiece in doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and whatever you do read nothing else by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► him or else you will be very sad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► thought as my met my recollection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► that the second doing book is ok that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► yeah and then I tried to read the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► one and I'm so I guess technically I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► still trying and I never finished it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► a book ever really don't give up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► no reason I i got about halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► God improve doing which is the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► one and you know after about a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► pages from the point of view of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► his name turned into a sandworm i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► I god no but let's be clear to dune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► although classic the first what 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► pages three other pages is pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► hard rowing 02 right before really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► starts to pick up after that they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► really mr. to move after 3 h 300 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► don't yet don't stick up there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► other one that i think i've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► before is a the wheel of time i'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► you so mine so I know that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► made that I could not read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► book i got like a hundred pages in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► some kid was walking through a village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► it's like I don't care and I stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► freaking i read seven of them and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► was like up to the point where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► like I think i read them when I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► 15 or 16 or something and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► was the most recent one that I come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► Christmas gift never read it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► what they're like 13 14 in total i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► sanderson after robert jordan passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► yeah well not so hostile the robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► jordan thing for me part of it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► the inertia of it like I got to the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► finished seventh 1 the eighth one came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► out like years later and it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► moment of oh my god i will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► reread those first seven books to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► no it wasn't that good yeah I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► can sort of piece together where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► whole series was going so yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► that was one of mine for sure the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► one I had was a charles stross actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► I read the first book of his a merchant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► Prince's series is actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► entertaining you know has to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► like parallel universes and people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► jump between these parallel universes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► and then there's one that's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► medieval and one that's more colonial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► and like the first book was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► and kind of it ended where he like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► killed a character what i thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► characters which you know sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► can get away with and then I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► reading the next few books like kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► hate everybody else in this room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► then it just kind of goes off the rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► and like they're like they're finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► more parallel universes and I'm like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► right you need to be like a wrapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► this up not quite like expanding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► scope so I'm fortunate I've read i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► some stuff I've enjoyed by him but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► that series just to me just took a sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► well that's not the crazy to have cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► off you have to make with hard left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► otherwise you go straight to go off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► it's confusing because it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► forget it Jake it's crazy hey David you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► have a any examples of those who series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► well a couple I mean you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► these books like dune and and wheel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► time and and game of thrones I I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► the control right now I now take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► george RR martin I wasn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► invested in themselves are like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► alright they're just not for me but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► there are some things where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► what's the old Dorothy Parker line this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► is not a book to be tossed aside lightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► great force yes that would be got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► improve dude but is the the authors who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► disappointed me and this might be heresy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► to anne mccaffrey Oh give a choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► yeah I you know I love the first 3 / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► novels and I you know the Harper all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► books were in all right i didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► you know but I read the mother for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► compare yeah the dream yeah I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► and they just kept going and going you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► know number words when they do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► discover the AI and he has them invent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► you know this is silicon glass and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► he hasn't reinvent spacesuits and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► ah if I thought that was an awesome know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► I that was the 1i think that's the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► one that for me it really has been light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► generating here's how you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► microphase don't wait what the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► with dragons and that he has a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► here's how you manufacture insulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► spaces for dragons and wait wait yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► i I can't talk about but then again i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► read it like 15 minutes of continued as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► like I got so I think it was for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► again it was really when she started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► like often characters know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► focusing on characters that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► care about and really yeah the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► one sadly the last few that she wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► which I think we're mainly written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► her son i believe oh I tried to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► what i resigned over just they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► really boring like it's you're like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► you know the same for character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► exactly the same plots is the same plots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► swishing filmic fiction which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► worst type of fiction it's I i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► when Rita dragon lady of Pern came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► on and that that was such a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► because it had been so many years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► she put out a prayer novel right since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► it was like this big event right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► yeah the more they just went on was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► oh well I still love the first well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► that's factors involved here I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► mentioned it the age to some of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► you discover something as a kid and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► love it and it and it literally is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► not you it's me it's like I grew up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► you're the flaws of these this series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► I was no longer that impressionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► starry-eyed thirteen-year-old was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► reading them or you know and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► going on and then simultaneously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► know you're not no longer reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► first or second book in the series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► you're reading books seven and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► may be kind of their they're patting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► out because this is serious become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► profitable and then so that's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► against it too so it means that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► suppose that really happens all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► I can remember being a teenager and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► picking up the mall or e ad which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► the David reading books that following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► reading books about the belgariad and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► remember reading through the malaria and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► the first one being like a repetitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► characterizations kind of flat like 15 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► well I understand if you create this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► fictitious world i understand that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► know you've built this world and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► invested in it and maybe you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► them for you and for your own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► gratification as much as you are for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► money they bring in um for example one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► of my favorite series stopped after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► three books written by very very heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► hey Artie and he starts the first 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► think it's called the bridge of birds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► alternate alternate medieval china for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► under medieval china isn't the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► word but it's basically one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► Imperial dynasties and it's about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► ancient sage and his his young dominance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► of an incredibly compassionate companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► and how they outwit magic and tricksters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► and Dragons and Larry since i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► pronounce his last name is dr. after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► stopped reading after book 3 because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► he explained to the press it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► renew motive I wasn't selling enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► research i was putting into them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► screw you i said i'm now a bookseller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► because it's a lot more money than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► then when I was wrong and author you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► know my kids love the ricky ricardo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► series by Dave pilkey and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► a book for every planet in the Solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► System and and in the the I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► Jupiter book or the saturn book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► promises what the next book is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► be and what happened is that captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► underpants which day pilkey also does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► became a wild hit and and and then four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► years what they would say and and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► have my wife the library they'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► where's the next week here accounting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► book we did all the research too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► it said there was another one said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► Neptune book it's coming and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► turns out that the Assad answer that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► don't want to tell a child who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► know where the next Ricky Ricardo book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2938">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► that they were promised is is Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► profitable and therefore these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► will not be written and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► they actually will they're going back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► print with an illustrator and that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► definitely one of those things with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► Commerce came and it was like I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► have a more popular series over there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► screw you guys I'm going over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► alright that's sad but you know I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► see I can see where it's really nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► mean in a way i really like the JK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► Rowling the weight i love the way she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► personally potter and that she spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► five years just planning her world she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► brought her seven books she's knocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► off like a few you know mythical beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► or whatever as as you know supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► projects but she's not coming back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► increasingly gnarly lon project her or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► whatever it would be like harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and the vagaries of middle-aged yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► yeah she's like I'm gonna happen i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► done and I hope it doesn't happen but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► like that she wasn't and it helps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► she's made like frilly unless he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► and she doesn't need any more money so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► she can but I like that she had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► beginning and an ending because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► sometimes our authors they've invested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► so much time and energy it's hard to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► go and say goodbye Harry Potter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► another one that I stopped breathing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► uh I i did stop after the 14 that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► got better and then she got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► more self-indulgent but I i enjoyed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► yeah we've had a podcast we have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► that one thanks if you can look back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► the archive for that one the the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► heresy that I have perhaps is speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► douglas adams yeah I got halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► life the universe and everything is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► you know I this the first one was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► the radio show was fun the BBC show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► fun i'm good i don't need anymore and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► kept trying to read the others you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► I'd be like alright i'll try this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► and even even the UN colfer one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► a man was like like the first 3i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► the classic trilogy I thought the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► one was a disappointment until the until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► the very last I think next to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► chapter was actually interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► then you know i would i would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► argue i think the douglas adams after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► whatever 1984 1986 or something didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► do anything because I know there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► people who defend those Dirk Gently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► books I thought they were terrible and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► pleasant worse they're worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► terrible they were actually just him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► rifling through his old doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► scripts for ideas and then putting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► into novel form so anybody who had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► or read about chadha or or city of death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► or any of those old doctor whose stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► he was just lifting those stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► he wrote and using them to see seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► have no new ideas so as as tragic as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► honestly I I at that point I he had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► had been a while since he'd written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► something that I thought was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► great hehe he did a lot of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► that interested him and he wrote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► his book about endangered animals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► things like that which I think had much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► hitchhikers was just sort of and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► yeah but I've gotta gotta got a few when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► we were talking about childhood authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► especially i read a lot of Piers Anthony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah autobiography of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► tyrant the split infinity blue a jet a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► depth juxtaposition trilogy is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► pretty good in that is this bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► sci-fi fantasy thing and if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► teenager in love sci-fi and fantasy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► kind of sticks all together and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► a game metaphor like ender's game kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► it or hunger games it's it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► reminiscent of that but it's so that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► a standalone work you know that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► but here's the thing so he did the sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► books which are still being published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► I know and if you go back spell for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► chameleon why would I read a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► these my wife read a bunch of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► first off you go back what you discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► is that keynote a he said hes a dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► old man even when he was younger own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► minds around and spell for chameleon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► it's got a lot of questionable things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► it and the sandbox do in general buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► that he had that they started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► ability to consent during sex oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► tyrant series which was also marketed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► adolescent themed writer in so many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► he that book is so dirty in so it in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► many wrong awful all these little wit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► not even like the kind of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► you pass it around the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► classroom with your friends and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► check out page whatever like we did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► you know i'm forever it was the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► thing where as you're reading about rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► involving people of inappropriate ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► yeah it's just there's there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► it'sit's really horrifying and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► know if this was supposed to be the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► statement oh you know terrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► depredation but I never got the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► well it was a deal with his statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► um it was it was the kind of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► even what because i read that series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► like middle school and I can remember oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► yeah feeling violated by it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► confused by what i had read and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► to figure out like how much of it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► own instincts say now now this is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► and and how much of it was me being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► over my head if you know it's i'm a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► believer that you should supervise too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► much of kids read because this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► they form them that their sense of self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► and their way of interacting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► world but man oh man that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► something where it was a big fat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► positive side at a relatively young age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► Lisa we learned about various sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► positions that can be done in zero-g so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► that I could never happen at this base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► pairs Anthony and I also bring up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► sanity because in terms of series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► disappointed you on a pale horse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► actually a really good book about death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► and then he proceeded to write that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► book like seven more times like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► the same book he would change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► characters and it was almost Russian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► like I guess in a sense it was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► same events from another perspective but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► hey that book was successful I'll write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► it again seven times and and and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► just heat he's on my list because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► like I appreciated when I was younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► that's part of it but he also squeeze as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► much out of a serious as he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► and continues to do so with sand and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► hindsight it wasn't that great but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► know all the inappropriate stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► in there and and it's only I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► gotten worse and yeah so he's on my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► Great Bear I who love music be blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► music a great novella turned into a ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► novel he wrote a couple books Darwin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► radio and Darwin's children i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► the second one and i have not had much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► more visceral reaction to a book as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► direct the sequel to Darwin's radar was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► Darwin's children I I like if if it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► been a paper book I would have thrown it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► across the room but it was on my kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► value my kindle so I didn't but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► with prejudice delivered price West well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► III guess what I'd say is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► people and people can enjoy what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► like but for a hard sci-fi writer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► suddenly turn on a dime and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► talking about like preaching about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► indefinable higher power messages from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► it was like oh yeah okay goodbye not why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► I know not why I read your book what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► what okay you know it's like whoa ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► whatever path you're on now good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► not what I signed up for when i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► your books so I felt that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► author betrayal there and I I he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► he's on my list i'm not going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► anything by him and i want to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► Robert Sawyer who is at eight a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► critically praised but i think actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► kind of a mediocre writer he's okay as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► his ideas are interesting but he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► Neanderthal parallax is what I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► talk about hominids is a book that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► some discussion and it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► it's about a parallel universe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► revolutionary battle and bridges created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► between the humans and the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► Neanderthal world and and it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► interesting and yet those books that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► No so I just a little warning there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► don't don't read more no more Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► Sawyer that Neanderthal parallax books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► because i thought they were really awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► and the first one was passable so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► think the turning the fellas in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► novels can be problematic period your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► blood music is a great example of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► with a fantastic moment Seacrest is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► bakers in Spain is another because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► was a great it was a great novella which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► is basically about what happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► engineer people who don't need to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► and and how are they treated by the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► of society and how did they react and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► respond return because that they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► they're essentially immortal because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► the that by the body chemistry tix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► make them not need sleep also happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► refresh rejuvenate ourselves and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► they're never going to age and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► resentful of society and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► forth and it was a great novella and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► turned it to novel which I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► kind of Dragon places and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► turned it into a trilogy and i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► say this i really enjoyed an Seacrest as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► a sci-fi writer and I think she's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► the few that actually I'm tackles issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► of of class and intellectual and social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► mobility as opposed to automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► hand-waving with and after the war there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► is prosperity and now we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► opportunity because its star trek um she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► doesn't do that she talks about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► technology can bring about and how some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► people get left behind some people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► and she doesn't really engaging in funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► way I love her authorial voice but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► really wish like she had just stopped me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► like okay I had a novella called Biggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► in Spain it was pretty awesome got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► I'm going to move on to something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► oh because I made the mistake of reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► the the back the last two because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► this this perverse completest instinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► or if there's a series i always try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► read all the way through to see how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► going to work and by the third 1i mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► oh no oh no oh no and and i ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► kind of you doing that the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► equivalent of putting like the hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► over the eyes are watching a horror film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► just kind of skimming through and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► you I don't like the characters keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► this paragraph at rickhouse I i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► lot of artists who have one big success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► as always you know a the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► always can repeat it but one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► questions is are they going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► what got the mirror they are they going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► to do something new and say what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► like that wanted to try this and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► know the history is littered with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► you know make mediocre follow ups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► some of those are our because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► for and some of those are because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► tried to do exactly what they did before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► and they didn't show it and you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► writers was like I'm just gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► this into a series and so I i get y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► series exist because it's you know once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► you get somebody you build that audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► and you keep them on the hook but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► another level you know it ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► sometimes just turning into a cash grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► it's like you know III what do I do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► this great audience who liked this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► well i guess i'll just write another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► book and don't give me more money right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► so do you have a story to tell know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► yeah i remember back in the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► when white gold wielder by steven r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► Donaldson came out how I there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► there's a there's a series that gave up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► on all of us haha it was what the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► book of the second trilogy and as with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► Thomas covenant or whatever it was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► so so my dad got it and i was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► because he had the other five and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► know so so I start picking up the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► one and he sees me reading it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► afternoon and he just comes or goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► don't do it what do you mean you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► reading the sixth longest yes i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► life is too short i think it is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► that's just I mean that book i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► first book in that series and needless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► to say just because of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► happened in that first book I never went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► on from there because I was like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► just awful like it's just it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► painful painful to read now cuz now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► be honest i'm thinking of the authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► who haven't done it yet i'm all please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► don't do it yeah there are those so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► that's that's that's the good thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► that is is you've got the writers out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► there that you can count this is true if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► anything I was thinking you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► have the same feeling about like musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► artists where they have a new album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► comes out there's always that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► like what you know i'll i'll buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► next one I'll buy this album if I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► the last one but if the last 1i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► like then there's that moment like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► going to give you another chance or am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► going to just get off the train now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► that and that happens you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► happens all the time to or a TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► we're like that that's the last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► of that I'm gonna watch or you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► don't like this writer anymore i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► going to follow his his stuff anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► one of the ways that you selected but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► it's funny when that starts with love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► and then and manage it sort of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► can we recommend authors who have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► done this who have been impressed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► how they did their series or close them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► flophouse which always has a thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► the end to prove that they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► let's do that writers who have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► ok I i have 21 this may be controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► maybe not William Gibson because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► tends to switch gears every few books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► and move off in two different directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► and i like that you like that his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► curiosity keep some really fresh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► lively and if you think that he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► neuromancer and then he went away please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► read pattern recognition because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► oh my gosh there's there's a lot i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► the whole trilogy that actually I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► the bridge trilogy that centered around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► the bridge but the other offer i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► to bring up as one that doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► talked about a lot but should and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► julian may who obvious she did two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► series that i think are worth talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► about the first is the saga of police in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► exile which hinges on the premise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► modernity hop into a time wormhole ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► pleasing times where in theory they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► what they don't realize is they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► back there and being enslaved by race of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► telepathic aliens and the five books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► I can't remember um think it's boats for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► the four books in the series a center on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► how does humanity get out of this pickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► and and they do and she and boom she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► it but then a little bit later she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► launched a second series called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► Galactic milieu series which has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► five books and it's very loosely tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► the police in exile is and it's flung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► like 3,000 4,000 years in the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► it's this big fork in space opera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► she could have spotted out for 20 books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► because there's like four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► family dynasties to get into it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► eight different alien races and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► these all these wars and skirmishes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► go on but you know it was in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► certain five books and I admired her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► restraint for taking something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► spreading and epic as the story that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► told and picking three characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► these are 3 i'm focusing on i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► figured out what happens to them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► wonder about everybody else on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► time so I would urge people to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► Julian may we don't hear a lot about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► but she she cranked out a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► good work in the seventies and eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and then I think people should read him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► the other I I could I could name a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► i just wrote I wrote a bunch down we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3898">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► should say the I think dan would agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► with me here the four cosine series by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► it took when I was one of the ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► yeah I agree it's you know it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► those things where you look at your like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► wow she wrote you know she's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► over a dozen books and 15 books in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► series they're all pretty good i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► there are some that are not as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► others but like you're probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► read them all once you start reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► them and the most recent one by lois [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► mcmaster bujold in the most recent one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► is actually one of its good it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► what yeah it's really good through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► chart of quality it would not like have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► the fall off there were some tears even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► of Athos was early on that this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► crappy but she goes into things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► don't care about as much like she finds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► fascinating stories in things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► don't find it fascinating but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► you know everything will pop up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► like a memory or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► it's like this is amazing yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► that's a good series III was not let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► down by that which is why i read 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► freakin books in like two months and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► just about all series that was that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► of course mirror grants newsflash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► well you know it's just keep going yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► the i said i'd say neal stephenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► although his work is not to be serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► but it is a serious but but I i am i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► add the baroque cycle drag for me I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► continue to enjoy his work i stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► reading the Baroque so i kinda like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► blog cycle the baroque cycle that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► know that's through if that's a three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► thousand page novel essentially that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► lotta well there's an investment there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► but like I found that it really took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► like a halfway through the first book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► be like alright I'm into this which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► that engine like it's like 500 pages but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► like borough Hey Ya Ya paper oak I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► that's not reading i want to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► John Barnes has a series that's the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► started with a what a million open doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► I've plugged in before do yes yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► you gave me the first few books in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► right areas right that's the third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► yeah the third one is really depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► and then and then the the fourth one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► actually pretty good and has a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► breathtaking also depressing chapter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► it that's the single chapter that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► still think about that blows me away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► that so those those are that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► interesting series that has been you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► know slow to come out and he could stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► at any time it's not like he leaves you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► hanging but then he goes back into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► universe i like that and John Barnes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► also wrote an awful book called the Duke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► of uranium don't read the Harry that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► no no I jack mcdevitt who have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► extolled the virtues of before it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► slight fun sci-fi adventure novels into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► different series the Alex Benedict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► series which is about a sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► Priscilla Hutchins much series where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► she's a space pilot and there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► an adventure and people eat sandwiches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► I'm not kidding people always eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► sandwiches in those places and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► and there's always everything looks fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► and then somebody's got a gun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► there's a surprise there's some sabotage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► and it's adventure ii but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► they're all kind of there they all are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► enjoyable and I feel like they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► you know they never kind of tailed often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► in quality they're all just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► pleasant and I always pick them up when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► he's got a new one and then i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► mention John Scalzi who has gone back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► the old man's war universe time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► again now he's sort of what five books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► in that series now but I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► all they're all good and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► i-i-i I credit him for that because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► was a case where old man's war was a hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► and he's like all right I gotta do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► of this and I think he did a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► credible job with those books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► they're all different in a way which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► also kind of fun so yeah that's my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► all throughout to why a series which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► liked the ending the kind of classics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► but Susan Cooper's dark is rising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► I we talked about that reason reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► the darkness rising right now I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► quite like that's that's my favorite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► the series but i think the whole series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► Alexander's per day in chronicles which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► i also have very fond about that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► Lisa mentioned terry pratchett who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► amazing and just one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► despite having a series in that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► your many and many of his books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► contained in the discworld they go often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► totally random directions and he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► manages you know i think when i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► reading him it was because I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► Douglas Adams but i think he is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► better at that than Douglas Adams is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► terms of actually argue that describes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► kind of five series in one consensual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► universe because there's the Wizards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► there's the witches there's the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► there's their standalone Brooks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► all the standalone books to I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► need pictures and I mean all your beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► oh my god i love pyramid well just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► totally I mean he'll just think of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► like clever idea and it amazingly he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► been writing these books for you know 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► years and they're still hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► like I mean I right pick up new ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4198">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► I'm like still laughing out loud with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► them which is amazing to me after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► many years so kudos to him he's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► writer and then the other one which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► think i've mentioned on the show before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► is a mic carries Felix caster series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► which is a five book paranormal sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► noir set in London which I really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► and I think those are all those are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► great you know I'll second the Julian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► may and the terry pratchett because yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► dear god yes but i also love the john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► john d mcdonalds travis mcgee series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► which is interesting because he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► out as a kind of a pulp crime writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► the first couple books are you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► banged the first for out in one year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► know they're very short very fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► and then the series of wolves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► they're just they're all really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► good stories but just beautiful writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► all first person and he really like Carl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► highest and you look at his books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► going to talk about crime in florida and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► environmental issues and all and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► he'd say point-blank it's because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► John McDonald so those are beautiful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► I also really enjoy a Donald westlake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► and his both both as Donald West like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► doing the dortmunder novels part also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► Richard Stark is doing the Parker novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► because dortmunder actually started when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► a Parker novel didn't work and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► realized it was just too funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► somebody just went to change the names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► and so then he had like this really dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► greedy caper character and then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► bumbling group of thieves and both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► series just again beautiful writing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► them and number i mean just no drop off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► to the end so Scott you have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► nice to say very very rarely do I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► anything nice to say ah i will mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► someone who we spoken about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► oh yeah I I thought that was a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► and I've read The Killing Moon which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► start another series but i haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► the second one so i don't know it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► be disappointing could be setting myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► up for disappointment and I'll once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► again plug a KJ parker who i plug all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► the time with the the engineer trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► which i think is an amazing piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► writing that I think probably most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► people won't like but it is it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► good and I enjoyed it very much and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► can hear Scott talk more about AMI KJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► parker cast which is his know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► check me out yes it's a very quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► podcast it is just got its me reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► the books i just turned every step you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► hear the pay like here clicking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► kindle but I read those i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► bought the paint propria well decadent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4372">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► Gutenberg's after and I would I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► them by the light of many candles lined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► ok good use gadgets for ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► alright well this has been great we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► talked a little bit about artists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► art we talked a little bit about authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► and books series that wronged us in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► way and then we wrapped it up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► little positivity thanks to Lisa for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► suggesting we end on a positive note I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► appreciate that and so now we've come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► the end so i would like to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► guests for for joining me in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► slightly odd ball episode of our book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► dan morgan thank you very much for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► here always a pleasure thanks for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► always a pleasure you say now you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► cursing my name like the last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► okay good that's right it's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► inside David Laura thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► always a pleasure he said cursing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser thank you again for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► coming on again it was a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► yeah that was great boy you've got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► of books in your in your memory bank was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► that's not because he doesn't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► anything is really what i'm saying here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► Scott was gone thanks for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► I don't know what you said but I do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► all think about what my mother always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► Scott I'm not mad at you i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► well again get used to disappointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► that's right let's play anyway this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► not the princess bride podcast either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► thanks to everybody out there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► listening we hope we haven't been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► disappointment to you in this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► and if we were there's always the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► episode says come on back and try us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► again don't give up on us if we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► disappointed you just keep listening we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► can we'll turn it around it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► some things are looking up we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► going to hold on past our explorations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► definition we have been years after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► episode before we are solid ohmygod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► ohmygod he and on that note I say to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► goodnight goodnight your listener good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► just a reminder next episode we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► to watch three classic movies from 1952 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► well their movies from 1952 high noon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► start Gary Cooper the greatest show on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► earth starring charlton heston Jimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► Stewart cast of thousands directed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► subtle beauty mill it's all it's a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► and singing in the rain with Gene Kelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► so watch those movies or at least watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► high noon and singing in the ring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► join us for our next episode we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMar_tU4/4543">TS</a>]