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00:07:06 ◼ ► system and unique hardware features like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► this needs a GPS or this needs camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► you can't say like this works on a 3G [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► but not on a 3GS so and also he says he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► suspect an app would be rejected for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► trying to exclude devices based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► hardware feature that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► need like if you check the box for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► needs a front-facing camera just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► reviewers might get cranky about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► anything with the camera while you check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► and I like oh well I'm checking it cuz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/452">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► want to exclude the iPad one from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► requirements or whatever so that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► unfortunate situation I understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/458">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► Apple's trying to do is saying don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► build your piece of software for a set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► features but especially with things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► games where they're so sensitive to CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► and GPU speed if you make a game and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► turns out that it can't run on a 3G but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► can run on a 3GS it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► express that apparently with the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► you're allowed to specify in your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► metadata so that's kind of shame you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► think by now would have been addressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► like I don't think this is a unique or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► new issue maybe Apple's position is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► you make something that runs on a 3G [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► banana 3GS either bump your iOS version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► so that you exclude 3G or don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► your game like that I don't know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► make your game run faster yeah so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/502">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► that's unfortunate but I'm glad to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/506">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► developers like it's not a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► mistake you know the developers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/514">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► really as in many things their hands are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► tied they what can they do they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► game that runs on the 3GS and on a 3G [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► they and it does run on iOS 3.1.3 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► later but if you got an iOS 3G with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► you got an iPad iPhone 3G with iOS 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► you're out of luck and all they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► big yelling letter saying warning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► carefully nicholas friedrich wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/539">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► talk about mac app store upgrades and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► gave another interesting angle last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► I talked about they whoever was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► wrote in and said do people even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► what upgrades are like the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► upgrading software is that a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► thing we all know about because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► done it for years but if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/562">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► coming into this brand new and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► report pouring into computers before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► know about upgrading software doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► really have a lot of analogs in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► parts of life mmm and his Nicholas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► Friedreich's question is what if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► truth of the matter is that most users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► don't care at all that upgrades free or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► otherwise and his example is his mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► and her peer group with 38 pending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► upgrades sitting on their iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► you ever pick up someone's iOS device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► the App Store icon has a badge on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► with like double digit numbers I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► do you know what this is do you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/591">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► you know you have all be like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► friends from three years ago look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► these updates and so that is it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/596">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► the number of people who argue for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► updates and the people who want paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► upgrades are combined but vocal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► ultimately small number of users and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► upgrade functionality exists at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► simply is the most convenient way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► update software so maybe it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► we're all complain about upgrades and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► computer is wanted but maybe everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► else just just never updates anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► know that when I look at my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► devices they have iOS devices and Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► software updates despite the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► encourage them to upgrade most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► time now one of the things one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► great leaps forward of iOS is how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► easier it made buying and installing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► upgrading and uninstalling software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► again they even they've popularized a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► new more friendly name they call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► apps even though we all know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► short for applications that it's become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► like a new word apps like people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► talk about programs or applications in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► branded and popularized popularized this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► word apps and some short before we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► call them programs or applications our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► application wasn't a term that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► see in a late-night you know monologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► comedy monologue threshold for like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► expect everyone to get it but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► start throwing jokes about apps like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► everyone knows what those are what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► know and people are using it also to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► refer to web applications also I built a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► new app oh you know iOS f no no no web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► app well I don't know if that's broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► through websites and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► kind of but I still think people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► know what the web is I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► that is I think people are more familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► with the concept of phone apps than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► websites but then maybe they just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► about the Facebook Facebook certainly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► in the Santa molix but anyway the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► thing is it made people less afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► install software like before this if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► had a computer regular people like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► I'm going to touch it don't to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► software that sounds complicated it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► like it's tall it's like installing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► air conditioner and installing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► in my car's engine bay it's like I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► be an expert do that but now with iOS it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► made everybody like you know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► fiddle my thumbs around tap this tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► already have an account with iTunes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► the credit card is already in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► they were did on the computer it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/727">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► oh now I've got the app look there it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► and this means that there's more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► for developers because you're making so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► many more people who are not afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► buy software basically they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► they're buying software they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► they're installing apps for a fee but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► it's great for developers and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► customers because you can do more with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► them and you buy this little thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► don't just get what you get with it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► you get this whole world of apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► you know you're going to install and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► so it's great that I always did that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► at a certain point you know you can lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► a horse to water but you can't make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► drink like if that badge says 38 pending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► upgrades if they're not not upgrading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► because they think it's too difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► either they don't know what that badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► means and don't care or they do know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► what it means and don't care so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► it's not an ease of use issue maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► kind of an awareness issue but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► sure how you work on that you certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► don't want some big thing popping up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► the US and say hey did you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► 30 appending updates and you can update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► to newer versions of these apps why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► would you want to do that newer versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► are cool and blah blah blah you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► you don't want to go up the interface of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► that so I think Apple has done a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► good job making it easy and problem free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/791">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► applications but if people don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/795">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► do it they can't be beyond maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/796">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► forcing upgrades like oh you just always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► we're just going to push it down on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► which is appropriate for some kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► applications like maybe a web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► where the security concerns and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► you want to be able to force or even OSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► for security updates on people like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► don't have a choice just you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► get the security update but that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► careful that you're not hosing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► person by forcing them an update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► breaks something and then they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► cranky about it so I'm not sure how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► more you can do to encourage people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/825">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► update but the point beyond that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/826">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► computing right like that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► bothers us we want to be on the cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► edge and everything but if you give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► versions of the applications you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► work and you like them you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► anything that goes people could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► annoyed and say why do I look that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► I'm never gonna upgrade my my iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► works exactly like I want it to and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/846">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► perfectly happy with it and there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► downside stop grading these applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► you know so we're going to talk more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► about upgrading or is not upgrading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► little bit but I thought that was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► interesting point nurse girl rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/859">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► not only people supply their real names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► maybe nurse girl is a is they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► in the not always a lot frequently in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► the chat room well he or she we do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► know if they are actually a nurse or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► female gender we know we don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► they're simply a person going by nurse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► girl has contacted us that's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► saying that's right she says this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► about the force upgrade stuff well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/890">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► agree the paid software upgrades are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► friend choice I think the month two most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► non-geeks there's only one type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► software that they've ever paid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/897">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► upgrade and for naima wasn't much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► choice and she's referring to word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► processing software Microsoft Word in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► particular which is awful for changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► file formats between versions and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► a new file format automatic for saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► this is one instance of a common refrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► I got was that you're forced to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► by programs that are in common use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/916">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► incompatible ways so if you just stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► with like word 95 eventually when all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► your friends got word 97 they'd start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/928">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► passing on word 97 documents because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► word 97 saves in word 97 format by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► default you can't open those in Ward 95 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► and then you have to like email them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► back oh can you please save us in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► old format the same thing I'd like doc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► versus doc vs. dot docx where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► switch to like the zipped up XML tree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► file format instead of the big binary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► blob format lots of people wrote down by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► Photoshop the same type of deal Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► cloud Monro entire blog post about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► put it in the the show notes and he what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/954">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► he calls it is social lock-in where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► have to have the highest version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► application that the people you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/962">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► working with have because if everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► you're working with has cs5 or earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► you have to at least have cs5 because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► the guy who has cs5 saves it in some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► know Photoshop cs5 form and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► open the file make sure it looks exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/974">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► like it did when the person created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► everyone has to be kind of on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/977">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► version and the other thing he puts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/978">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► here which is appropriate for his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► being Jim cloud man what a name that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► hmm is the cloud applications that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/986">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► a cloud component to it because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► stick with your old version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► program there's a chance that down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► road the thing that your cloud syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► with like the network service that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► that your application is connecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► so you can't just sit there and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► using the old version forever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► eventually the entire world moves on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► they are just fine I don't collaborate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► with the entire works just me using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► if these the server-side service that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► you're using fades away then you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► of luck there and cloud services being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► kind of an increasing part of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► applications work like you're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► buying a piece of software you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► into an ecosystem even something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► know simple like instapaper which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► one-man application there's a server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► side component that you're basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► buying it you're paying for the client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► side of the application but without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► server side component Instapaper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► almost entirely useless so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► getting you're getting those two parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► of the product that you're buying there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► individual users in the past could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► maintain a working Mac with a fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► version of an OS and a bunch of apps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► a long time like you know you have a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► SE and you're running Mac draw on it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► some FileMaker database that keeps here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► or whatever for your business right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► right Anna last show until that computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► breaks and you can't find any parts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► fix it it can continue to work fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► using system 6 and FileMaker and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► know whatever doing its thing as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► it keeps humming along and you can last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► long time like that because computers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► properly taken care of do last a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► long time but this changes with cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► software because software plus Hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► combination stops being useful when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► cloud service goes away your hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► still fine your software so exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► way you got it it still works exactly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► it did but when it tries to connect over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► the network to that cloud thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► cloud thing is gone and the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► that people who run the cloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► aren't motivated to keep them up as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► as that individual might be motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► keep his FileMaker database running you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► know with the is on his Mac se to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► his flour business running keeping track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► of his orders right is maybe he's highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► motivated to just not change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► anything new he doesn't want to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► anything new right but the cloud service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► provider as soon as all of its customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► have either stopped using the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► you know or most of the customers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► moved on to the newer version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► service they're not motivated to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► the service running go store that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► guy to keep paying for the the Rackspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► or even just a little vm that that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► so this entirely changes the equation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► all these are reasons why you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► forced to upgrade but the the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► lock-in from file format one you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► really blame the software maker for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► one like you may be complaining like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► Microsoft why did you make the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► and we're 97 to save we're documents at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► Ward 97 formula it kind of makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► if you made a cool new format that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► some new features wouldn't you want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► thing to saving it by default and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► Microsoft had all these builds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► compatibility warnings at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► Mac version like warning you realize by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► saving this people who have versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► explains that you might not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► do it do you run over not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► compatibility check and make sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► know they try to do the right thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► at some point you got to say look we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► you know file formats or not we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► application and we're going to extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► the file format to support our new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► features and yeah it's going to save in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► that form of my default like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► way it works and if you don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► it don't blame us for making a fancy new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► version of the program blame all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► friends it's a social lock-in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► people you should be blaming are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► everyone you're collaborating with if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► everyone you're collaborating with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► always upgrades from cs5 to cs6 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► whatever every time adobe comes out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► a new version well it that's the circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► of people you're working with and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► find it unacceptable working out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► them because if you guys all agree we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► going to stick to in cs4 and until cs8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► comes out and that's a feasible strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► for you then you guys don't have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► it's it's deciding amongst yourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► you know and if you're in a business if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► you're in a business we're all like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► the service bureaus that you work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► keep changing formats that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► you got to keep up with but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► developer for that particular thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► they're not the one forcing everyone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► upgrade I mean yes they're encouraging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► them to buy new versions of the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► but there's nothing stopping everyone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► a particular circle of interrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► businesses to decide they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► to push every update this happens within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► the single corporation all the time IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► will often say well yeah well there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► lot of companies skip the Windows Vista [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► so we'll stick with XP and we'll wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► for Windows 7 to come out and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► all decided that within a company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► that and that's how it worked for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► there's no reason that a service bureaus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► can do the same thing now eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► may be forced upgrade because like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► this your service bureau or the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► you talk to say you need at least cs5 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► you don't need to have the latest latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► but if you're still using cs2 then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► you're kind of out of luck so is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► it's you are eventually if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► to interact with other people forced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► keep up to date in some way but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► not forced to do it by the people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► the new versions of the software you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► interoperating with now for the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► services that's where you can blame the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► vendor because they're the one deciding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► that it's no longer financially feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► to keep his cloud service up and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► kind of that's something I'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► application with an associated cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► service you're necessarily getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► something that is dependent on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► software developers continued goodwill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► towards that particular version and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► yeah they if they sunset this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► cloud service or this particular version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► of this cloud service you're they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► shortened the pot they have shortened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► the lifetime of your application versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► what it would have been if it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► standalone app but that just may be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► way things go in the future like it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► to be applications or software lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► hardware and other software Prasad ware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► for services and that's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► buying into and I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► economically feasible for these services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► to have the same kind of lifetime that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► the software plus the hardware good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► because the solver and hardware was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► of unchanging but the service does like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► an ongoing cost about hosting that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► bandwidth and whatever depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► service like if you really want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► friends out of your customers and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► every old version of your API up forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► but very few companies do like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► they just read the new API and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► about clients or client software or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► our version you upgrade to new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► Twitter how many times is Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► changes API if you were using like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► original Twitter clients or like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► if it for like version one it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► wouldn't work at all with the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► Twitter and they change the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► service neat and you have to download a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► new version of that application I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► basically been free except for major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► upgrades but I think we'll see more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► that type of problem that the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► service problem and the social problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► has been with us forever and that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► but again I don't blame the vendors for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► that can we do a sponsor break quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► you can't FreshBooks calm painless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► billing it's the fastest way to track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► time organize expenses invoice your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► clients I use them have been for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► time and I think you should try it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► to the guys that work with me they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► it when they send their invoices shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► up right there in on in my fresh books I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► can pay them from there it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► because when people come to pay you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► can use things like PayPal they can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► your favorite authorized.net effete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► store they can just cut you a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► professional-looking invoice it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► your logo on it and you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► they've checked your email I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► know when they've checked your invoice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► because you see it you see the day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► email has been sent to them then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► they click that link that they get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► email it registers it on the website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► then you know oh they've seen my invoice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► they can automatically send them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► reminder one thing I haven't talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► about a lot is recurring invoices so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► you do regular work for somebody or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► let's say somebody's advertising on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► website and you want to send them an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► invoice on the first of every month you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► can customize it it will do that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► automatically invoices them they pay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► late to give them a notification tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► and tons of really great add-ons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► available for your favorite websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► whether it's Zendesk or Basecamp or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► really anything I mean all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► sites exist out there they have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► open API as they really encourage people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► to connect to it their blog always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► use their services they have a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► cool newsletter that has tons of tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► I'm speaking of newsletters it'll plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► into a handfull newsletter platform so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► if you have a customer you want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► automatically get your newsletter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► can do that tons of really great stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► here I love these guys they make billing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► and invoicing and getting paid really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► really easy and straightforward try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► free for 30 days full access at fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► books calm I was going to move on to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► next bit of follow-up here with high end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1498">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► you in the chatroom said something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► want to respond to he says it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► disingenuous to imply that a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► software having new features implies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► that they have to change the file format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► each time the implication being I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► that software makers are maliciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► changing the file format to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► upgrade you know like oh we didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► incompatible way but we're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► anyway just to make you all the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► motivated because we know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► social locking thing we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► certain people are on contracts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► they're going to get the new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► word 97 and we're going to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► format because we know the pressure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► will apply to everyone else to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► I'm not sure if that's ever happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► like if if for absolutely no technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► reason the format was Rev just to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► people upgrade I'm sure someone did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► somewhere but I don't think it's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► widespread as people think is the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► user frustration is like oh you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► got upgrade I know these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► doing this on purpose this kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► the how do you vent your frustration you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► assume malicious intent on the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► the software maker because it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► feel better and you know lets you vent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► your frustration but there are tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► legitimate reasons to change the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► format when when you add features or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► even if you added 0 features for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► application anyone's ever written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► program knows that like by the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► get to breathe and look at the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► version you could say man this file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► format every time we have to modify this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► type of entity or ABS of entry we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► to extend the file by this number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► bytes and it's really inefficient and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► we tried to recom packed it sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► it's hard to hook things back up when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► you don't have the code to reattach all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► the entities come you know and so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► just if I just rearrange this file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► format and put things in a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► or made a better extensible system they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► would make us have less of a chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► creating a corrupt file if you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► certain features it would make our file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► smaller like this tons of programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► erased reasons to rev your file format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► into a format that's not readable even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► to add 0 features but major versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► and those features presumably are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► way of adding entities to to a file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► that's going to manifest itself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► change in the file format even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► just a new different entity type or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► whatever use it well they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► forethought and make a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► extensible file format that can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► be read in a backward compatible way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► old version just ignore the new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► and like this is all hard stuff I being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► a programmer I come down the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► thinking that pretty much all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► you know except for like some very rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► exceptions when a file format is ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► it's done for technical reasons not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► business reasons not to for health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► grades because almost anything you do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► an applications whose job it is to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► documents almost anything you do to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► features to that application will result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► in the file format having to be tweaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► distant right now by the time these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► programs mature personally they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► container format with typed entities in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► which they can add new things without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► having to read the file file but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► that just getting to that point it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► many years and many tries and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► this false starts where you think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► in the middle it's like all right we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► got a generic format now it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► it this will be fine forever will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► have to wrap the format and just new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► versions of the program all versions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► program will just ignore entities they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► don't understand and then you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► you kind of screw that up and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► technically true because here's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► kind of entity that is so essential that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► if it's ignored the program is not sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► the file is nonsensical and you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► I don't I don't assign malicious intent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► to we're having file forms even I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► though I'm probably it sure is happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► once or twice most of the time I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► it's for real tactical reasons all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► Joe Fiorini writes in to say that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► listened to our episode about the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► TV and the HDMI output settings in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► RGB high RGB low and my conclusion was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► that after discussing this that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► probably just leave it on auto because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► it's probably doing the right thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► if you mess with it it could screw stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► up well he was in a situation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► picture coming out of his Apple TV on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► his CRT television didn't look good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► they were trying to like look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► Netflix things they had a real difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► time reading the titles under the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► art and things didn't look right to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► so this is a little follow up to say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► you if you're having issues with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► image on your Apple TV like even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► you should just leave it in auto if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► you're actually having visual problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► right to you that's the time when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► should go into the settings and fiddle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► with it he says he turned it on RGB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► lower now his titles are completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► readable Netflix and blacks look better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► so his situation where someone solved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► problem by going to that menu so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► was railing against before was like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► idea of if you're a nerd you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► everything looks fine but couldn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► it look better if I went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► settings that you shouldn't do but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► you're having problems I would suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► visiting that menu and trying the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► different settings there and seeing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► any of them help you make your things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► look better so I'm glad we were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► help somebody ah David wheeler Road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► readability middleman thing and he the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► contrast he was drawing was that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► for a lot of the other middlemen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► App Store in some the App Store the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► software developers have to opt in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► that and the distinction readability is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► whether you're allowed if there's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► to opt in or opt out and in readability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► there's you don't have to opt in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► even opting out seems like it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► complicated do I contact them and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► please stop collecting money on behalf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► and hope that they respond and do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► you ask and the reason I bring this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► it's because the most recent back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► park episode bold with scissors bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► with the scissors episode 63 Merlyn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► talked a lot about this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► aspect of middlemen and on the topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► agency where his big peep was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► people claim to be representing you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► claim to be your business partner when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► they have no actual prior relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► with you and he expanded this not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► from readability from all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► things that go on on the web involving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► him and his experiences as a speaker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► example with speaking bureaus you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► you know who just contacted you and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► hey I'm trying to get you a speaking gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► relationship with you what you don't oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► we've already agreed on a price for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► so I encourage everyone to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► that episode of back to work I put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► the shownotes episode 63 because it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► relate to the readability stuff that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► talked about the last show and David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► wheelers comment about opt in versus opt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► out can you choose to participate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► this middleman or is this middleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► choosing to be part of the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► whether you like it or not so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► not so bad yeah I could have done more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► readability follow-up but I really I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► many other things to get to your two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► topics today okay two topics and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► but I'll skip the change I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► a little bit about possible future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► iPhone screen sizes a topic that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► also discussed on other shows this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► week and then I want to talk a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► bit about gaming or probably a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► gaming so I'll try to get through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► iPhone stuff quickly so I think the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► show talked about iPhone screen sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► the most value talked about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► buildin analyzed - this is based on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► rumors that are floating around that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► first saw linked from Derrick fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► about a new iPhone having a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► sized screen than the current one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► actually I want to build an analyzed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► Marco said about and build my eyes first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► so the rumor was that the screen would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► be taller but not wider and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► things that Marco addressed was does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► that help like the this story is like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► it's going to be taller but not wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► and that makes it easier for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► to deal with because it's the same width [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► they just make it taller and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► have to fiddle with your app as much now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► a Marco said was that changing any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► dimension means developers have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► revisit and possibly revise their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► layout like there's no free lunch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► know sell because we only changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► height it's like practically nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► have to do if they change the width or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► if they change the height you got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► through all your screens and all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► controls and make sure they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► everything works and looks right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► depending on how much taller they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► maybe you need to move stuff around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► because now things are out of reach or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► whatever and so his you can correct me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► if I'm misinterpreting it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► listened to that show a while ago but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► seemed like he was saying that changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► height changing the width six of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► half a dozen of the other it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► this big like all the genius they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► changed the height of this will be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► much easier than if they had for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► change the width or change the width and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► the height it's worked no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► that your impression of what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► saying yeah mostly and yep go on but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► so here are my contentions on that issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► supporting my conclusion that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► slightly better to change the height and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► not the width first is that vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► horizontal scrolling in iOS applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► scrolling where one screen replaces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► other and it appears to slide in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► left to the right I mean like scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► content where you're staying on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► screen but you're moving the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► around to see more on the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► bottom vertical in my experience is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► more common than horizontal right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► what that means I think is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► much more likely for an application to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► have UI elements that are created for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► fixed width then for a fixed height and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► an example would be like say you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► made like a static image type header [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► it's going to be poised a fixed header [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► or fixed hütter they're going to foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► are they're going to be poised at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► top or bottom of your scroll bore region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► which is a common type of thing I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► the controls that apple provides stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► nicely to different widths but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► think that iOS developers are not beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► either using fixed pixel widths for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► things in there such that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► look right if they get stretch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► gaps open up or doing their own custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► header header and footer toolbars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► especially in stuff like games where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► they have where they basically done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► custom UI that looks kind of like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► UI but really is made up of a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► interlocking images or maybe just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► big static image right and those images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► are for a fixed width so if you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► the width of the screen even by a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► I think developers be more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► have to revise static content pieces to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► fit into width than height because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► height they're already it's a scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► region you're already expecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► scroll you know stuff up and down so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► you can see a little bit more of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► you've already you know that's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► think you would get for free you're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► likely to get that for free than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► would for this stuff and again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► Apple standard controls probably have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► problem getting a little bit wider but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► think that an app is much more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► have some sort of horizontal elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► that add up to the screen width exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► and we need to be revised then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► would have vertical elements they'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► to the screen with exactly simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► because vertical scrolling is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► common than horizontal so I give a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► slight edge to the amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► required to revise your application if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► it only changes and height vertically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► not so much that it's like oh now it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► slam dunk and we're sure this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► they're definitely going to do when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► whatever like that's an obvious huge win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► but I do say it's slightly better just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► to change the height now let's see do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► have all these links in here I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► have the mayor I link to all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► Gruber linked to from daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► which are all these blog posts the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► one I think was on the verge where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► somebody mocked up what they thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► would look like is that here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► current resolution at three by two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► here's the new size nine by five the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► width is the same the height is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► increased and they did a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► mock-ups showing the home screen hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► look at the home screen you can fit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► new row of icons on it you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► instead of being what I said you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► four rows now you've got five rows of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► icons and you showed a bunch of typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► applications like look how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► room there is once the keyboard slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► up you have a bigger viewport that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► can look through at least in land in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► portrait mode landscape I think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► actually get worse and look how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► nicer the webpage looks like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► look how much more you can see on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► maps all sorts of screenshots basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► showing how a taller screen would book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► and and I have to make it looks pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► good and then there's another one here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► called the Russians used a pencil the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► Gruber also linked to and he linked bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► to borrow is posting these topics as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► well it's showing what the phone might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► look like so they've taken the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► little pictures of the phone and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► here's an iPhone 4s and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► iPhone with the screen stretch to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► taller and they just basically took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► picture of the iPhone 4s cut it in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► pulled the parts part and add it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► know and put the larger image in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► and then he also showed a 3x2 version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► that's also larger where you just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► the entire screen larger so what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► all reminded me of was a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► when I had the original 22 inch Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► Cinema Display that I was reviewing did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► I get to keep that I think I bought my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► own eventually yeah I did have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► original 22 inch Apple center display I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► put a link to in the show notes who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► most people probably remember what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► look like but it was the one they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► clear feet camera that yeah I had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► yeah I think it's still in my attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► somewhere it was and had the DVD not DVI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► connection was a prior to the DVI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► connection it was a a DC a DC chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► yeah that's right it was it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► amazing product still not quite equalled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► because when it came out of the box you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► ridiculously large screen like 22 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► LCDs were not common when this thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► and the only thing that came out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► thing was one cord there was no power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► cord it was just one cord with a plug on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► the end of it looked kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► weird exactly connector thing and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► plugged that cord into the back of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► Mac and that was it yeah the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► everything was great and USB and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► didn't firewire to I don't remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► think it was a port of some kind I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► might have had fire work that's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► think it had firewire think of just USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► I look for this in my and I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► I'm looking at now at the page finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► opened and it just lists USB doesn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► fire war alright so but anyway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► there was tons of stuff running over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► that cable that's why everyone hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► proprietary connectors that nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► has and if you want an extension cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► it was difficult to find and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► there are many reasons why this was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► but there were some reasons why it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► good to so this was an amazing piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► technology at the time and I remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► reviewed it as and the Power Mac g4 cube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► for Ars Technica that wasn't mine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► was a loaner that it just got to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► and it was in the forums or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► was looking for this forum post but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► couldn't find any people were asking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► to make some predictions about future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Apple Harbor what do you think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► gonna do next they done is crazy cube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► they've done this this weird flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► monitor thing everything looks all cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► prediction about the future of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► hardware and I was trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► something that I was 100% sure would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► true like the most sure I could possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► be but not but not based on any inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► info or anything right and my response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► would be that Apple's next line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► displays will have a thinner frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► around the display area like so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► look at that picture of the Apple Cinema [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► Display which think was already posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► to the chat room there's a there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► black of the screen when it's off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► surrounding white frame like a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► frame right and you know the clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► little feet and my prediction which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► completely obvious to me was that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► awesome as this display looks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► futuristic and amazing and it's huge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► people would come to my house and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► whoa what is that I would say then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► next line displays will have a thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► frame around the screen portion and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► was like the stupidest stupidest person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► ever who cares that's you know oh and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► people said that's like a 50-50 chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► that might be why would they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► thinner makes no sense well from from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► aesthetics perspective it was obvious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► also agree that like things with thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► frames that you're not holding your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► technology is to shrink that extra stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► so think of like a CRT television where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► so they just IV built in two pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► furniture it's like a wooden cabinet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► then a bunch of stuff and then your TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► okay and then it was just a plastic TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► but it was huge like everything getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► thinner smaller thinner smaller and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► the screen is the only part that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► anything that's not the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► unnecessary so the trend over time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► you were to look at time-lapse of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► televisions that look like is the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► screen portion of the television has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► been rapidly disappearing to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► now where like some Samsung models were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► like edgelet backlit displays that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► they're ridiculously thin it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► it's like a 60 inch diagonal thick piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► of cardboard and everything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► same thing you've seen in television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► everything about it is going with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► because what's important about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► screen is just the screen now the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► this comes up in the context of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► iPhone is that all these mock-ups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► discussions of like what if you made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► screen taller they take the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► iPhone and they and they just stretch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► out so it's longer and it's been pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► obvious to me starting from iPhone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► iPhone one that these if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► front of the device the screen is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► part that you care about and anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► that's not the screen is basically waist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► area now it's not wasted because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► gotta have the microphone you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► speaker and you have the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► like there's a central components that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► you have to have there but do they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► all that room does the home button need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► to be that big and have that much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► around it it seems like there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► been room to make them thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► they've been a similar size for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► entire history of the iPhone through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► 1 and 3G and the for the there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► begin a little bit smaller but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► pretty big so I look at those things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► I think that's where you can gain some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► room but not by changing the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► actual phone but by making the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► encroach on those blank regions right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► and I was even think of like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► know obviously have to have the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► you have to have the mic and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► the speaker can any of those things be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► buried under the screen maybe both with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► the mic work under a screen or would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► too muffled but could you use the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► can a camera see through the screen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► was it be too much backlight I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► know what the tekmoto shoes are but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► that's one of the fantastic building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► something of like maybe you just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► the whole front of the thing a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► screen and bury everything underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► the door off on the side could Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► pull that off and if not then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► shrink those areas a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► Gruber said exactly the same thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► his post he said that he thinks when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► people keep talking about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► saying how it looks silly it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► a long skinny phone they're assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► that that you know quote unquote empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► blank space is going to be exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► same size and they'll merely make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► screen bigger and he agrees with me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► he thinks it's more likely that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► will make the screen bigger and make to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► the extent technically possible make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► non screen portion smaller and the out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► the most obvious places is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► area around the home button if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► the home button squished or make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► smaller or just you know compress that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► you can get a little bit of room by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► home button I think you can get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► bit room on the top part too if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► press up like the camera the microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► you know obviously this is a technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► Patrick packaging consideration and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► have to rearrange components but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► that's what Apple's for the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► with the width I say too I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► if they wanted to they could also shave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► off a little bit of the edges the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► has been getting closer to the edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► probably a little bit more room there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► this idea of a taller screen iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► would just be another kind of like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► so there's some rumors and people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► some mock-ups like so what right except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► as you noted on the talk show with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► Gruber what he said after he linked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► the original thing this was this mock-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► by Timothy Collins on the verge he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► he thinks Collins wasn't merely guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► or idea idly speculating right his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► Gruber's way of saying that he may or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► may not have some inside info that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► or does not corroborate what he heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► cutting cutting through that it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► sounded to me like John was saying he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► and maybe John knows something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► yeah but and normally he doesn't drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► hints like that like well normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► doesn't even link to stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► there's how many mock-ups are like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► here's a mock-up of the possible iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► 5 member all the tapered ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► everything like that there were a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► those and to have them linked it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► either going to be like here is I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► say from his editorial point of view he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► would link to something to say here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► trend that's going on tons of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► talking about this wedge-shaped iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► so I'm going to link to what I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► storing comment on the phenomenon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► linking to an individual speculation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► then saying that I'm guessing this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► just isn't pulling us out of his but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► guessing it's based on some inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► information because it basically says to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► me that he has heard some of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► things from sources that he consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► reliable not to the part where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► going to say definitively this guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► or I have heard exactly the same things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► but that's what makes this entire thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► rise up and make me take notice and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► made a lot of good points about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► manufacturing economies of scale keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► exactly the same density of the LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► displays because his assumption was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► you could keep the same fabrication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► things to just sort of cut the displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► into different sized chunks I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► enough about flat panel manufacturing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► know if that's true but it seems logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► to me that making making screens at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► slightly more expensive than making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► screens of the exactly the same pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► density but just a different size but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► that that made me start to give up on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► idea for a differently sized screen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► an iPhone which was that the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► would the resolution were maintained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► remain the same but the DPI would drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► in 365 to 300 or whatever is like 364 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► now something so the dots per inch would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► go down which means the screen would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► larger and what it would mean is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► you would have an iPhone with exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► the same screen ratio I also think you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► get make the regions above and below the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► screen smaller but make the screen wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► and taller not in terms of resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► but in terms of size just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► bigger because I think you're getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► the point now where the iPhone next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► other phones like these gargantuan giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► Android things and even some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► windows phones the iPhone is looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► kind of small in fat and I think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► slightly wider and slightly thinner uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► it would it would fit in better with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► current line of phones that are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► there and I think that's like all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► just want to look like everyone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► phone I think that they've proven that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► advantageous not a gargantuan screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► think they've also proven that making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► the screen too big it's ridiculous but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► think the iPhone screen can get just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► little bit bigger especially if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► a trade-off in terms of more battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► life or thinner form factor or both how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► important though do you think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► to Apple that their developer is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► their own developers but iOS developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► are transitioned well in other words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► would Apple come out with a screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► is of a different size whether it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► in one dimension or both do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► Apple is going to say anything other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► than hey developers this is the new size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► deal with it fix your apps or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► think that they would provide a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► gentle transition to it somehow I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► Apple is very aware of trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► good transition for its developers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► think there would have to be a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► darn good reason to change the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► size and I think that pretty darn good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► reason is that you can see more stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► the screen like that that it makes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► things possible that phones with larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► screens are nicer people use even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► you're just thinking about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► majority of the population that's above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► the age of 30 now you know for an aging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► it's easier for them to see things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► are just a little bit bigger not giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► not you know the things with a stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► and these giant phones that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► holding up to your head look ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► but just like four millimeters bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and with three millimeters bigger in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► height and at the same time like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► all implying stretching the screen out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► if they decide the only way we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► this so you think this is an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► product change we need to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► screen area slightly bigger and to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► that we also need to make the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► slightly bigger too not entirely we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► going to try to do all that by making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► you know by minimizing the non screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► area that's mostly how we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► make it bigger but we also have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► the case a little bit bigger and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► decide the only way we can do this is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► changing the screen resolution then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► would go to developers and say look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► is the way it's going to be they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► not stop doing it because the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► would have problems but I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► going to try very very hard either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► to have to tell developers to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► change their apps or to have some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► of story for them or yeah you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► change your apps but it's not that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and I think only changing the hype and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► not changing the width is a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► compromise that we want to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► thing bigger for a variety of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► you want to see more information we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► think people like bigger screens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► whatever and we've decided the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► to get it to get a meaningful gain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► that regard like we can't just change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► the size we also have to change the res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► because we really need to get that extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► information on the screen so our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► apps don't look cramps compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► everybody else's we don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► gargantuan but we just want a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► more and we're that I think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► say to developers uh and to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► this not so bad for you we only change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► the height so I don't think Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► going to not do something say like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► ideas are getting shot down in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► developers but I totally think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► everything that comes up there's an okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► here the benefits can we do this in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► way that doesn't hurt developers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► badly so I I put a lot of weight into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► gruber saying that he doesn't think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► person's idly cycling all that convene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► is that they've done tests with screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► of the size but it makes sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► from an apples perspective then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► things that make sense to me are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► overall idea that the screen on the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► on the iPhone is too small both in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► of physical size because people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► hard time seeing that little tiny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► information that can put on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► so resolution and size I think that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► real live problem that Apple's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► address and of the ways that I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► of them addressing it the two I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► the best are just make it taller or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► the screen bigger but don't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► amount of information on just help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► people with poor poor eyesight and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► these things I'm talking about are tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► changes and most of them are gotten by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► removing the non screen area so it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► a delicate balance and that's not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► how I see our Apple balancing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► developers needs and the customers needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► but overall like the with Apple always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► decision that I'm also speculating about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► that this screen needs to be bigger on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► the iPhone and that that's driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► everything it's just as like how can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► get this done but if they would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► it for any other reason then they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► it will make a better product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► there's just a matter of how best do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► bring this to market so we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► eventually if an iPhone 5 ever comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► but I'm rooting for I'll make my same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► prediction I do it at cinema display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► less non screen area on the next iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► possibility that the screen will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► exactly the same size as the 4s that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► will be larger in one or both dimensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► go to our second spot good idea hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► calm simplified domain management this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► is thing we all have domains heard me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► talk about these guys all in all week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► registration process simple for once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► that's their whole motivation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► what these guys are all about you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► hover comm there's a search box you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► in the domain you want you hit search is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► it available great it shows up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► there it's not available they'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► you that and they'll come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► whole bunch of other suggestions for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► you pick one you want you click the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► button to register and you're done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► that's it I mean this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► everybody wants to have a.com domain or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► dotnet or whatever it is that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► like everybody wants and you can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► of different reasons you get one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► your family get one for your kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► have a business idea you want to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► website I got to go get that the dot-com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► register where am I going to go I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► saying tri hover because we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► more than what you don't buy one domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► in your life you buy it doesn't probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► maybe if you're like Merlin he told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► at a hundred and fifty isn't that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► he said I mean he's got more domains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► than most people should probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► but this is the thing you go here you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► to hover calm and the process is simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► it's clean it's straightforward it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► you're not constantly prompted to opt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► out of paying for additional services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► you know what I'm talking about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► just the way it should be simple single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► focus and it comes with things like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► is privacy built-in it has DNS so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► you can go ahead and redirect the domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► somewhere else you can have full DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► control if you want to manage it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► they do email to and their transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► process is super simple it couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► easier they even have a valet service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► they'll handle the whole thing for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► if you don't understand how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► because it can be complicated go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► hover.com slash dan sent me or just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► the coupon code dan sent me you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► 10% off check these guys out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► they're really great hover.com I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► disappointed in the chat room that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► counteract my assertion that the frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► around the screen gets smaller by citing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► the current line of cinema displays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► saying how they have actually a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► non screen area than the aluminum ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► they replaced why do they have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► imparted up well but what I would say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► that the non screen area on the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► line of displays is almost invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► because I count the entire glass as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► screen even though it's not lit up what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► they basically done is made the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► which is the glass area go from edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► edge and you can barely see on some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► the old ones the little tiny rim of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► aluminum around the thing right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► speaking that they want it to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► there's no frame like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► infinity pools that just goes off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► edge right that the screen just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► edge to edge now we know it doesn't when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► you turn the thing on we see the lit up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► region doesn't go edge to edge but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► think this was a transition they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► from material that doesn't look like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► screen whether it be aluminum or plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► in a different color that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► opaque and then there's a screen inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► it they made a transition look it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► it's all screen and we know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► really all screen it's all glass it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► all glass over and behind that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► LCD panel right they'd only take up some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► of that region but that's they made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► transition I think they will now start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► iterating on that and making the lit up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► area behind the big giant seat of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► keep moving out and out and out and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► and of course you know as they put up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► the iPhone thing all right that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► what they bring up but I'll bring up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► the iPhone they've like fuse the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► to the glass which makes the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► seem like closer to your finger right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► if that technology becomes feasible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► desktop displays I'm sure they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► that as well so I think the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► continuation of the theme I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► about but then now they'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► continue iterating making the lit up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► area go from to the edge I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► that showing iPhones true and iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► like a look I went back and looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► the picture the iPhone one to remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► myself of how much region there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► above and below the screen it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► pretty big I don't know how that regions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► changed from the original iPhone to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► 3G form factor to the 404 mark there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► it's probably got a little bit smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► but as people pointed on the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► that iconic image of the iPhone is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► rounded rectangle upright facing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► with a dark part on the bottom a dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► part on the top and then like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► circle for the home button I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► silhouette can continue it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► the screen will slowly start to shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► at some point they may be faced with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► like what do we do about the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► and what do we do about the microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► and speaker but they got a while to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► before they do that all right talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► gaming a little bit here now Diablo 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► that's not what I'm going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► but yes it's true yeah I'm not even into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► Diablo but I just want to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► game looks like so I downloaded it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► it's just sitting on my hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► waiting to be tried out because I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► the art style but they've gone with I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► wanna see what the game looks like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► not very much of a gamer so I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► tell me is this out for mac or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► have to boot in you know use your boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► camp set up to play this Blizzard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► very good about making mac versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► the software it's out for mac and pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► that's not welcome talk about ok how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► how did I get to this I think I came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► this through something I mentioned back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► when we were talking about mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► and Game Center and how Game Center was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► off-putting to me as a gamer and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► was weird that Apple was having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► great success with iOS gaming but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► doesn't seem like as a company they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► particularly into games or that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► particularly get gamers and that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► cascaded into my pondering of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► world is like after the advent of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► gaming an apple and a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► people in gaming industry are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► about that and so here here's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► wanna start with this I'm gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► with a penny arcade comic strip which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► not surprised people who know me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► I'm going penny arcade fan this is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► 2001 I've been reading penny arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► since basically the very beginning so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► remember reading this and it just stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► with me and I think it's one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► better known strips I put the link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► the show notes let me put in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► room for all our helpful chat people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► today so the strip I remember this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► 2001 so you have to rewind that's a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► time ago it sounds like not a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► ago but over a decade ago this trip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► about a original crop of PlayStation ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► which actually predated 2001 right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► so it's showing a picture of do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► this comic up by the way down I put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► link in the chat rooms yeah I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► link opening right now alright it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► showing a picture of some cool looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► dude with sunglasses and blonde hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► holding a PlayStation controller like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► stars behind and the narration about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► is when we saw the first commercials for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► the PlayStation glitz the MC mtv-style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► Affairs that spoke to the sort of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► we weren't we began to worry they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► selling our heritage to the same effing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► guys who used used to beat us up in PE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► all right so he this is the voice of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► obviously they're talking from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► perspective of gamers right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► they're saying that our heritage is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► these video games that we played we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► stuck inside we were the Nerds were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► playing our video they were for us yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► and now they sign them to the guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► the jocks basically the big popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► good-looking kids they're trying to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► popular good-looking cool kids playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► with the PlayStation they're selling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► know our heritage to these people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► second panel shows a younger version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► the protagonist in the video in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► comic strip being harassed by bullies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► narration says they'd never been turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► into an eggplant in Kid Icarus they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► friends and girls and sports why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► they need games it's like why are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► taking this away from us like we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► miserable life we're you know we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► popular this was our one thing yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► one thing we have is games and now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► got to take that away and give it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► these jerks right and then the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► panel really is completely non sequitur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► and it's a it shows the character from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► these common strips standing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► table with no pants and he says I am the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► king of no pants and the other guy says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► Lord why couldn't he be the king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► pants what does that have to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► first two strips well let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► Penny Arcade uh the folks who make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► have been developing their skills for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► many years and this was a decade ago so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► perhaps not as well-connected as you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► want to be but so this idea that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► expressing here and I think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► Penny Arcade has become popular is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► because they tend to express the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► that everyone else was in their peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► group was feeling at the same time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► that gaming was something that belonged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► to these nerdy guys like kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► hipster not an even hipster this is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► before hipsters just like these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► people in the world have everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► and gaming is supposed to just belong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► us but now here's Sony marketing gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► too maybe not to everyone but to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► you're in that peer group of just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► high school kids it seems like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► they're marketing to everyone really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► they're just marketing to people your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► age but you liked it better when games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► were just for the seven people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► your age were also nerdy outcasts loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► your age were also nerdy outcasts loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► video games and now they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► market it to your whole high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► class and that seems like a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► dilution of gaming culture like no they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► can't have that that's ours that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► that's not for regular people alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► and this this phenomenon of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► that was popular with nerds like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► hadn't happened quite yet with Dean deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► maybe kind of a little bit but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► particular interest that nerdy people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► are into that they really have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► connection with and seeing it sold to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► quote-unquote the masses now little did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► Penny Arcade or any of us know in 2001 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► that if we fast forwarded to the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► year those guys those like jocks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► first panel we've got cool guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► sunglasses and the good-looking guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► the girlfriend and and the hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► playing stuff you know who those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► are now those are the quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► hardcore gamers hmm those are the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► saying we don't want gaming sold to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► other peoples just for us is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► hardcore cool totally solid gamers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► forget about the original nerds they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► have been so marginalized that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► current hardcore gamers are the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► this strip was complaining or take going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► to be taking over the world of gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► like the popular people right it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► ten years later this strip you you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► to swap all the characters you'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► put the jocks saying they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► sell gaming to my mom Gaming is for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► man's for the cool dudes we like to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► you know those first-person shooter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► games should be selling gaming to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► people it's not what gaming is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► right it just shows how far gaming has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► gone from this little tiny narrow thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► to being sold to everybody so those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► are now the hardcore gamers and casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► gaming or like people who are not quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► unquote real gamers now it's your mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► your mom's mom your aunts and uncles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► your friends who have never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► computers that they're playing bejeweled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► they're playing Facebook games that prey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► on Angry Birds the base of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► play games it's now so incredibly broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► that the people we were scared that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► gaming would broaden out to are now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► narrowest of the narrow super hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► gamers right so into this world I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► trying to think how Apple fits as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► new king of gaming basically if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► in terms of like a number of games sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► of users all sorts of measures in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► Apple looks pretty darn scary and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► bigger than all the traditional gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► companies combined in some respects so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► Apple is kind of the new king of gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► along with Facebook and stuff but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► are definitely not the new king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► gamers however you define gamers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► guess I the definition has changed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► the definition is those jock guys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► the nerdy people are kind of a subset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► like now it's just teenage boys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► really know how to play video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► count themselves as gamers and subsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► of them are you know the frat boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► playing Halo or whatever but inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► they're also these these nerdy guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► right but the eggplant nerds as I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► call them the people people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► changing to an eggplant from the waist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► up and kid kid icarus those are within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► the hardcore gamers as a subset now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► those guys are the guys who are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► the game equivalent of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► like those arthouse movies now they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► like independent games they like games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► being criticized I'm including myself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► this category like games created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► authors they like their like journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► right like limbo Bray their experimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► flash games like passage if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► what any of those things are especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► passage you're probably in this tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► subset of a tiny subset of a tiny subset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► of gamers and outside its this wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► world of other people doing other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► and most of them don't call themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► gamers and yet they're the ones playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► the vast majority of the games so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► is a difficult position for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► you know thought of themselves as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► unique owners of a particular piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► culture and how its broadened out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► everyone else it how do we think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► ourselves did we take comfort by just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► saying okay well now we're just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► be like the arthouse movie guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► we'll just turn up our nose at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► mainstream and we'll just enjoy our uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► extremely high quality games for gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► the stuff though like the titles I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► listed which I should put in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► it's like I have them my notes here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► I haven't put them in the show notes yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► that we should be content with that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► like just like the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► totally into art house movies they turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► their nose up at the blockbuster Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► Bay movies but they're happy to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► on their little subset watching you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► foreign films and independent movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► stuff like that but on the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► is well shouldn't you be happy that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► past time that you love has now become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► so popular that everybody is a gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3870">TS</a>]
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01:05:04 ◼ ► very interesting not very deep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► they're missing out on what we believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3906">TS</a>]
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01:05:23 ◼ ► great Steven Spielberg movie right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► not just the Nerds like it's possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3925">TS</a>]
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01:05:31 ◼ ► has met the mass-market can appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► and that the the super nerdy are house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3933">TS</a>]
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01:05:38 ◼ ► Scorsese or whatever like the there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► exists this type of thing that satisfies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► both parties whereas in gaming it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► like you've got Angry Birds which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► what everybody loves but gamers turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► their nose up at and you've got braids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3947">TS</a>]
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01:05:55 ◼ ► blockbuster games that satisfy both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► groups why is it been sort of segregated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► into the real gamers and the non real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3959">TS</a>]
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01:06:07 ◼ ► tiny and seemingly ever shrinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► proportion of the world of gaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► we're worried that the things we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► will go away but unless there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► sort of crossover and so this gets D my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► little heading here is what's wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► gaming wrong in quotes why why is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3976">TS</a>]
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01:06:37 ◼ ► tremendous amount of experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► also without a tremendous amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► skills this is a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4002">TS</a>]
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01:06:48 ◼ ► anything like that where you really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► need to have like you can if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► want to appreciate film it helps to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► know the history of film and know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► the directors involved and all I can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► have seen many many movies like then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► can really appreciate this great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► same thing with wine you want to know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► lot about wine to have tasted a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► different things that I'm looking for in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► a wine and do I know that because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► tried them and I've read about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► I've tried that one as a yes identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► this is this wine that's that one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► this is a particular you know experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► is kind of you expect you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4038">TS</a>]
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01:07:26 ◼ ► become a film buff like you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► to do it you just have experience there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and wine if you're into wine go on wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► tasting by lots of wines to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► express ate these wines right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► it's a barrier to entry but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► surmountable that if you are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► interested in these things and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► to have a great appreciation for art or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► whatever learn about art read books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► about art visit museums talk to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► people about art merely by experiencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► it you can move yourself up the ladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► to being the quote/unquote hardcore film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► geek or wine aficionado or you know art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► connoisseur or whatever games have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► - if you haven't played the classic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► the s games or whatever all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► disadvantage so you say okay well fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► I'm just going to play every game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► starting from the beginning of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► I will become a gamer because I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► have all these experiences I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► able to appreciate these games but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► there's one extra thing that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► present for the most part in film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► wine and art and that's skill if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► know how to put something your mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► swish it around spit it out and swallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► it you can do the wine stuff if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► language and look at it look at a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► you can experience film but there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► actual skill component to gaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► there are many experiences in game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► you absolutely cannot have without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► minimum level skill and that level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► skill is in many cases pretty darn high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4123">TS</a>]
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01:08:49 ◼ ► team-based first-person shooters if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4129">TS</a>]
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01:08:54 ◼ ► you have no idea what you're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4134">TS</a>]
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01:08:57 ◼ ► facing you can't tell how to get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4137">TS</a>]
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01:09:02 ◼ ► you're a good first-person shooters you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► can move around everything there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► level of skill and if you don't pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► that threshold you can't be competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► with those type of people and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► missing out on that experience and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► now you are not able to understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► part of the gaming culture and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► parts of gaming culture I like that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► I'm saying you have to be the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4158">TS</a>]
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01:09:21 ◼ ► best first search and shooter player but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► there's a minimum threshold of hand-eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► coordination and spatial awareness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► really filters out a lot of people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► these quote-unquote hardcore gaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► here's some examples of this I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4171">TS</a>]
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01:09:35 ◼ ► wife to play portal and portal 2 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4175">TS</a>]
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01:09:38 ◼ ► play them right but she's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► that kind of a gamer so I sat her down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► in front of portal and a depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► amount of my time helping her to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► that game was helping her to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4187">TS</a>]
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01:09:57 ◼ ► how to navigate the world how to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► out at you know mean first-person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4200">TS</a>]
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01:10:02 ◼ ► that but just the basic stuff right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4202">TS</a>]
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01:10:11 ◼ ► would have no problem doing in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4211">TS</a>]
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01:10:15 ◼ ► pick a thing upright ever but in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► gaming world there are certain skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► you need to translate from you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► input into the coordinate system of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► screen and when I'm spending all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► time helping her like all you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► face this way or now move up just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► little bit know you can't really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► where your feet are you have to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► down I know you won't see your feet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► that's like where you are so don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► off the edge and okay now look back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► before you jump make sure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4235">TS</a>]
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01:10:38 ◼ ► experiencing portal that that part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► not the game she's missing the game we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► are both missing the game because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► spending all my time trying to tell her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► how to move around in the world right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► and for some people there's just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► chance that they're ever going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► able to operate a first-person shooter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► game at all either because of hand-eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► coordination because the controller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► Mouser are complicated and difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► use because of spatial awareness you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► know like I said translating the input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► the manipulations of the input device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► into the coordinate space of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► understanding what it's going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► all these things that feel so natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► for people who are quote unquote raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► as gamers can can be not not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► difficult to learn but sometimes just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► plain impossible to learn for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► people and it's not just an age issue so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► I'm like all old people can't play these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► games with all young people and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► plenty regenerations of people right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► growing up who are 12 13 14 15 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► or who grew up during the time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► Games existed who simply don't it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► develop or you know or couldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► developed if they tried the skills to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► successful in certain types of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► complicated games and I think these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► the vast majority of people like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► 20 year-olds running around right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► who can't operate an FPS and you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► that's not true anyone who's 20 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► grew up with games they must know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► everyone plays games you know or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► they just played Angry Birds and Tetris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► and bejeweled or even Tetris is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► bit more complicated that like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► they just played touch-based games maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► they have you know they just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► developed these skills for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► reason and if you try to teach them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► it either they won't be able to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► though they won't be motivated to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► because it seems like this is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► work why do I want to do that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► gonna go play Angry Birds that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► like better right I think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► vast majority of people who play game so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► these people without the skills that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► gamers think are the essential gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► skills now this is not a value judgment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► like oh those people are real gamers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► whatever or they can't appreciate games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► I think it is great the game to spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► out to everybody and and we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► enjoy these things but it does mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► there's something weird about gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► we're the connoisseurs of the very best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► the gaming has to offer that we believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► is the very best the gaming has to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► there's a barrier to entry that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► do with skill I guess maybe Sports is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► kind of like that but it's not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► like not like in baseball you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► not all professional baseball players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► but we can hit a ball we can run around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► the bases even if we stink we can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► appreciate the fun of baseball right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► you can absolutely not appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► fun of a first-person shooter if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► can't tell where anything is or how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► move like it's like playing baseball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► saying I don't know which direction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► face I can't find home plate after I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► the ball what do I do I try to run I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► just move vertically into the sky you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► know it's we don't have that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► problem in physical real world things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► but a lot of the very best games I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► it now the reaction of the gaming world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► to that even the hardcore gaming world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► has been too veldt to develop games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► de-emphasize skill that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► again this all sounds like a value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► judgment I'm saying oh that's not real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► it's not bad it is what it is it's they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► want to make games where if you put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► the time in other words if you do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► experience if you sit down and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► every movie ever made if you go on wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► tasting things every weekend you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► eventually be able to appreciate wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► more right you will eventually be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► to appreciate film more if you study art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► in your museum so if you if you play our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► game just the time investment it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► skill thing it's not like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► develop some sort of skill to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► just it just by putting in time we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► reward you and they do that by basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► making making the traditional skills of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► a gamer less important and everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► relative of course I'm going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► about world of warcraft as an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► that world of warcraft is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► hardcore gamer type game but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► definitely the emphasize skill in favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► of time spent or at least the types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► skills that are have to do with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► hand-eye coordination and spatial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► awareness and stuff like that and move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► more towards strategy type skills if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► put in the time a world of warcraft your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► character levels up right if you do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► things the game wants you to do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► character loves up your character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► becomes more powerful without you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► getting better at playing the game more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► or less your one hit does more damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► when your level sixty that it does when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► your level one and it's not because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► are better at hitting it's because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► in-game character is better hitting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► that type of levelling system where time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► investment equals power in the game not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► proportional to your physical skills or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► even your strategy or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► that makes a game accessible to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► people and world of warcraft wasn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► that they wouldn't have whatever umpteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► million subscribers they have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► they just simply aren't umpteen million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► people who can have fun playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► determining that an example that we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► quake 3 arena or any first-person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► shooter that is that has few empowering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► items other than your coordination you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► can't go on a quake 3 arena server at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► this point and play and have fun because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► everybody who's on that server is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► really good at first-person shooter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► games and you will die instantly and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► community of people who have that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► of skill is really really small even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► when quake 3 arena was popular you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► can't get like how many I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► people playing World of Warcraft like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► you know 10 million or whatever you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► cannot find 10 million people who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► play a competitive first-person shooter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► same time write it because they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► have fun like the good people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► dominate everybody everyone else will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► segregating and you know it and so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► in first-person shooters like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► call duty modern warfare and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► they either a leveling or simplify the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► game so that you can get you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► hand-eye coordination and spatial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► awareness and ability to you know jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► up in the air and flip around backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4558">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► and shoot somebody are less important or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► that people with those skills can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► dominate the game as much halo is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► amazingly good at Halo even with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► stupid controllers instead of a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► right but they didn't totally unbalance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► the game for everybody and this is built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► into game design now if you want to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► a game very popular you can't make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► basically hard to play because you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► limiting your audience to people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► have the skill and yet there is a there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► is this phenomenon that I think exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► where the very best games require not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► amazing skill but some certain a minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► amount of skill and that pains me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► think that like for example I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► never have uh my mother played journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► which I think she would really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► that game but I know she wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► actually enjoy it because she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► spend all her time trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► how to control the dude and knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► where she is and what you're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► do and just the language I mean half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► that is experienced because she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► know the language of game design like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► she doesn't there's a language just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► language of film there's a language that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► games speak to you in to let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► what the next thing to do is and anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► who has played games for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► recognizes that is a type of powerup or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► that is clearly where I'm supposed to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► or they're not communauté like gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► sit down in front of the game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► there's a two-way conversation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► game is speak to them they're speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► to the game and it flows in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► type of the games or the games to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► to the people the vast experience in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► games so you don't have to spell stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► out right so that's experience and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► can get that by playing lots of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► but the skill one is like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► there's a section of the game that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► just isn't doesn't have the coordination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► to figure out which direction she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► facing or she's flipping through the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► like dramatic exciting things happen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► the game and if she's spending the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► time going where am i I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► what's going on then she's not playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► the game anymore she's out of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► and she's frustrated and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► if you can't make a jump or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► like that and you're just stuck in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► part because you can't make some simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► jump it's frustrating as a gamer to go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► just give me the controller luckily I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► did the jump but she's out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► experience she's not playing the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► anymore and that doesn't happen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► with movies where you just sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► look at the screen you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► so this phenomena happens at every level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► obviously the world the world of workout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► level is like those are still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► hardcore gamers but even within hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► gamers if you want to get the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► de-emphasize skill and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► Angry Birds where anybody can play just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► flick the thing you do one little motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► and it's engaging your mind and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► engaging other parts of you and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► game that's trying to appeal to as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► people as possible but gamers would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► there are games that are that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► that offered the very best the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► has to offer that you just simply can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► experience and this also ties into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► idea games as art that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► frustrating to argue with anybody about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► that because it's like if you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► gamer and don't have that experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► skill you can't experience our art at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► the level we would like to express about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► so that's why we're like Roger Ebert was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► talking about games are an art people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► said all you really need to play you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► know eco or Shadow of the Colossus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► you know flower or surely we say journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► now then you'll see the games are no he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► wouldn't he would not be able to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► ridiculous frustrating experiences he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► would never get to experience the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► at all and he would not be convinced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► experience and I think probably because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► he also doesn't have the skills and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► that's that's weird a kind of art that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► you need a certain amount of skills to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► appreciate not just experience but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► skills that I find that weird and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► makes me uncomfortable the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► situation and Apple being the king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► that new kind of gaming doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► help or hurt or anything it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► reminded me of this topic someone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► chatroom is saying it does happen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► film there already films that normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► people wouldn't get that's true but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► not because of like a skill I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► you watched a whole bunch of already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► films you watch the entire history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► Italian or French cinema or you watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► every Japanese horror movie then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► could fully appreciate the next Japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► horror movie and it's not because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► had any particular skill you are not now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► better at watching now I really know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► to open my eyes really wide you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► it's not like watching you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► it's more of a mental than a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► and I say skill and think of a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► thing like it's it's a combination with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► this combination mental and physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► again doing stuff with your body to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► things happen on a screen in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► are just not natural to a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► and I and if you don't spend your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► becoming acclimated to that I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► good at it there are some things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► just can't experience and appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► is there another analogy is playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► sports and then later watching them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► if you're a retired baseball player and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► then you watch watch baseball do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► I would say you do appreciate it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► yeah that's an experience thing yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► because you just if you just watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► baseball games from the time you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► born and you wouldn't have no idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► you're watching up baseball games you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► come to appreciate the sport of baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► experience is definitely a factor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► it's not a skill thing again you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► getting better at watching and you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► have no idea how to play baseball but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► you can still experience it and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► are sports like tennis is my example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► where our golf was probably a good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► if you don't if you have never played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► golf I think it's harder for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► appreciate golf but you don't should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► good at golf like if you have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► played tennis I can imagine a tennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► match being born boring to you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► you don't know how hard is or what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► involved in the game so that gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► appreciation of tennis does not scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► with your skill in tennis like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► you've played tennis a little bit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► kind of appreciate the sport then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► appreciate everything there is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► appreciate about that based on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► just watching it or like if you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► Wimbledon every single year that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► will come to eventually appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► tennis you don't have to say I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► have enjoyed that match much more if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► had a much better forehand no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► there's not the relationship or like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► tried to watch it but my eyes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► deflected from the screen because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► forehand is tough that's what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► in gaming where it's like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► awesome game you spend all your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► trying to do the first jump you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► going to get to the game you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► be frustrated for reasons that the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► maker didn't intend it's just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► bounce off of you you know and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► that's upsetting me head says now of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► accomplishments via in-app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► yeah that's that's the final frontier of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► like not only no skills required but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► realize the time is a commodity too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► if you pay us you can skip the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► portion we go it's a great equalizer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► people like like me who's an adult I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► have I have some money I could spend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► know I have way more money than I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► time to invest in a game so therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► I'll just buy these couple upgrades and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► I'll be my guy will be as good as the 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► year old kid who doesn't have money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► does have lots of time and skill that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► never have I think that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► lessening the experience like but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► not like I think there are places for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► that I think it's okay to have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► type of purchases but it's so easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► developers to slip on to the dark side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► perception that their people will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► that trade-off if they've already bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► the game and they really and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► competitive and they want to win and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► they'll give money and eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► realize what are you doing here are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► having fun or now you're dumping money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► in here to try to be better like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► the ability to buy the correct moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► words with friends or whatever that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► right right like then what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► at that point a while aim are you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► like why not just just sit at home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► tear your money up and throw it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► right and just sit there contentedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► knowing that you're better than your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► friend because as you tear your dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► incinerator so that is a difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► balance and I tend to like if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► have the skills or time to play a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► particular game to the point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► enjoy it then don't play that game pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► a different game that fits your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► better because I think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► very hard for these massive corporations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► that make these million dollar games to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► resist taking advantage of you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► eventually getting you into a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► where you're paying for things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► not producing more fun for you but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► just producing more revenue for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► people involved all right we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► kind of a third sponsor to do all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► I got one thing about valve after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► yeah well I gotta ask you about valve I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► was hoping you were going to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► know if it's the same thing but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► have to assume it is but anyway so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► last thing I'm going to tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► this week is very cool it's the one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► Australia it takes place May 25th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► through 26th it is a conference for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► developers and designers but it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► traditional one you're not going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5047">TS</a>]
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01:24:12 ◼ ► method calls that will you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► you're not going to walk out of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► and learning things that will make you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► better developer or a better designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► that's not that's not you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► to do it it's much bigger than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► you're not going to learn something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► we're talking about skills you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► going to learn some kind of development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► you're going to learn things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► can only learn about iOS development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► about development in general and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► business that you would only learn from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► people like Lauren Richter the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► made Tweety the Twitter acquired from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► guys like Navin Morgan from panic from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► people who build Trainyard people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► built Flipboard these these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► people who will be there to talk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► you'll be able to talk to them and hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► what they have to tell you be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► hear what they have to say about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► experiences not oh I use this thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► make a to pain contraption not none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► that that's not what this is about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► is about sharing stories and information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► and advice from people who have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► from people who have gone big so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► are looking for a reason to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► Australia Melbourne Australia this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► this is a pretty darn good reason so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► check this out one more thing calm a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► it's where you go to find out about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► conference they've got little mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► conferences but it's Friday the 25th and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► Saturday the 26th of may be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► conference go check those guys out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► know they have spiders in Australia the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► snakes the someone in the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► posted up this morning someone from West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► Drive Hirst and it's just the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► don't don't let that keep you away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► the conference I'm pretty sure that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► one more thing conference will not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► snake eating spiders in it so camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► plus guy Karl von Rando RM er plus he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► be valve valve so there's his rumor out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► there that gabe newell recently said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► not true the rumor was that Tim Cook was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► at the valve offices for mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► purposes and Gabe Newell went on I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► he went on a podcast do we have was is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► absolutely not we are why he was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► here is this what you're hopefully going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► to talk about yeah so I would I link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► you joined me for an episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► conversation to talk to Gabe Newell I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► did and did you put that in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► notes no I think while I I'll add it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► I'll add it right now what I did put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► was a link to a dowel ramble site loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► inside calm because I didn't wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► link directly to the rumors and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► reason that he didn't wanted to link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► about it I was like I almost can't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► myself the link to this but here it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► so I'm linking to him and he will give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► you what I think is the proper mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► and then follow that link to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► links about these rumors I'm going that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► the reason that I put this in here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► because a couple reasons one valve is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► kind of the hardcore gamer type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► company they they cut their teeth doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► games back when gamers really were minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► subsets of people they make these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► of arty games that people really go gaga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► over people here in my gaming set like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► portal and even things like half-life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► like oh it's not just a mindless shooter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► there was an interesting premise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► story and done in a nice way and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► mass-market isn't it get if you can play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► a first-person shooter it's mass-market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► but there's no this whole groups of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► people I know I can never sit them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► in front of half-life 2 they would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► appreciate the experience who has spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► controls because they don't know how a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► first person shooter works or if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► as soon as they got to the first hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► fight even an easy mode they wouldn´t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► be able to make it through in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► doesn't exist anymore so that's the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► of company valve is and them talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► the idea that Apple and valve would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► combine forces that's kind of weird but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► you're like well so Apple is the king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► the new world of gaming which involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► you know casual games games that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► require these skills that so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► don't have you know opening up the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► of gaming to for people to enjoy games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► who don't have the experience skills are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► both like they didn't spend their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► childhood playing games they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► these skills and yet they can appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► games them combining force with a valve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► which is for the most part in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► direction they make games for hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► gamers for people who are experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► games there yeah they do sell more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► casual games but there's more of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► distribution type of platform so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► that's an area where I think Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► valve do match up valve made steam Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► store so they can have a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► meeting of minds they're like yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► did that thing where we distribute stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► directly to customers digitally to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► it's awesome and we get a cut of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► blah blah blah but on the gaming front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► Angry Birds is pretty darn far away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► portal or half-life 2 was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► flagship French are Team Fortress or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► flagship franchises of val ah so why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► heck would val be talking to a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► why would anyone make up that rumor if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► it's not true what does that make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► sense in any possible way and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► I thought of was a story from the Penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► Arcade report which is Penny arcade's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► new gaming news website run by Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► Kuchera the former editor of opposable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► thumbs which is the gaming section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► he's over there on his lonesome burn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► whole site by himself and doing a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► job and I put a link to this interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► we had with gabe newell very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► interview which is basically transcribes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► you get to hear uh exactly what gabe had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► to say and he talks a lot and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► more interesting aspects that has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► up a few times is valve talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► hardware like gaming hardware which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► seems weird was like you know note that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► probably doesn't you think about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► make software and they've had the steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► sore but they don't make gaming hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► like they don't make pcs or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► like that they forget about like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► gaming console what do you mean hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► and so here's what gabe newell had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► say was it quoting from him from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► article after talking about hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► stuff for while he says well if we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► to sell hardware we will we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► reason to believe we're any good at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► it's more like we think we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► continue to have innovation if the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► way to get these kinds of project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► starters by us going and developing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► sign the hardware directly that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► we'll do is definitely not the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► thought that crosses our mind we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► rather the hardware people that are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► at manufacturing distributing hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► do that we think it's important enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► that if what we end up having to do then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► that's what we end up having to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► he's basically saying that he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► there are innovations in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► gaming involving like wearable computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► or different kinds of input devices or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► whatever they you know he's vague about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► it but whatever they're talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► that if they have to make the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► themselves they'll do it but they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► hardware maker but at the same time he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► saying like valve as a company we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► want to be held back by like oh wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► it be great if oh well that requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► some hardware and we have no means to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► that and this reminds me of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► like lots of ideas that Apple has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► like you know we could have a digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► music player and you have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► songs on it and be connected up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► digital store and they'd be like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► but we don't have a digital store and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► have no relationship with music makers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► guess we can't make that Apple says no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► it's a good idea we're going to go start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► having relationships with music labels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► we're going to convince them then to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► give us a music we're going to start a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► music store we're going to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► hardware device we're going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► software on it we're gonna make iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► we're going to ship all out we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► to have digital music and valve is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► same type of company where it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► know just because it sounds crazy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► steam you know we make games why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► we make a store that sells games are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► saying we would sell other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► games through our store what are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► we a game company are we trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► like our retailer this sounds dumb no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► they just did it they thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► good idea they did it now you have steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► which doesn't just sell valves games it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► customers like it and it was a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► so here they are talking about hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► and saying the same thing but the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► time also saying we recognize we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► a hardware company we really have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► idea to make hardware we have to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► we will bud and now here's me inserting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► well if Apple is rumored to be talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► to them or you know even if they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► talk to them but the fact that rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► combination of like well thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► something about hardware an Apple makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► cool hardware wouldn't it be cool a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► valve an Apple got together and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► some sort of Apple gaming console that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► played valve software library and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► connected your iOS device to your TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► all sorts of crazy fantasy scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► coming up not at which by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► think is particularly likely but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► combination of like contrasting valve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► and Apple I find very interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► the final link I put on my show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► about this that I think I encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► people to read is a a blog post from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► valve employee Michael Abrash I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► how to pronounce his name after reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► his name for decades but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► how to pronounce it he is a longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► well-known game developing guru who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► development you may know him from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► participation in the effort to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► quake if you were gaming about gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► back then you know the significance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► quake and how it was a breakthrough in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► instrumental not he's written many books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► he works at valve now and he wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► here's me here's where I started my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► in the world of gaming and technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► and here's how I ended up at valve it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► a very very long post and he says how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► ended up at valve and then describes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► what valve is like as a company which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► I've read bits and pieces of before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► this is the biggest kind of like I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► at valve and here's what it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► like to work here it is not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► encourage I should send us link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► Merlin that you should have it back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► structured internally in the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► how is wildly different from the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► other companies are are constructed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► flat hierarchy very little command and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► control just almost almost anarchy even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► more so than Google but a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► heard a lot about Google and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► very end of this thing he says and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► currently working on wearable computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► and if you would like to come work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► valve and you think all this stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► interesting we're looking for people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► come on down so it's basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► world's longest job posting like usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► a wanted person with this experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► these bullet points five years in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► degree in this experience the blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► blah apply here this is like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► else at valve it's not your normal thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► so this link will be in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► or read it and think about how what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► would be like if a company like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► you know valves products hopefully you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► know that they have steam and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► and then you read about how this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► structure internally got together in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► possible way with Apple how would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► even work with the to repel each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► like like poles on a magnet is there no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► way they could ever work together or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► could they actually partner to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► something anything that is useful a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► significant I think it's fun to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► over in our minds even though I'll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► almost no credence to any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► I like the culminate the confluence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► events with gabe newell talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► hardware and wearable computing and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► of us talking about how apple's the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► king of gaming but doesn't have any real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► self-identified gamers the meeting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► those two companies could either cause a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► huge explosion or produce something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► interesting or just never happen that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► the boring alternative so that's all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► possibility of any partnership between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► these two companies well I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► very interesting and obviously in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► that kind of meeting you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► that Apple would come in as the stronger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► company kind of say if if something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► this were to happen you could imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► Apple coming in and saying well we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► to move into this space and we'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► what you guys have done here and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► what would it be what would the proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5758">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► look like from at because you imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► Apple would be the one proposing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► why would Apple be proposing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► though you know Apple is not big on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► partnering they're not a big committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► the proposal is it is a purchase yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► though you know I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► whatever so like that's what I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► to think of that's why I was saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► poles repel yeah because they're so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► valve doesn't think it needs Apple frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► right app probably doesn't you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► needs valve for anything it's just us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► look on the outside like no Apple yuzu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► king of the ass backwards into gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► and but but you're not you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► don't know us gamers but valve does know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► us gamers talk to them about it right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► we on the outside want to get these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► crazy kids together to do produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► something but apples like we don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► you were selling a million games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► really care about games whatever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► just other apps go away and valve was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► like we want to make cool games maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► valve would be like if we want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► some sort of hardware maybe they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► approach Apple and say we've got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► idea for hardware and Apple go yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► that's great yeah they're not doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► yet it's like yeah we're not a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► manufacturer you know it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► only wild card in this isn't in the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► steve job era I feel like I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► Steve would say to all these proposals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► but there is this real or perceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► pressure that after jobs is gone at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► certain point apples gonna have to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► up with the next big thing without jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► so jobs did the iMac which doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► like a big thing but it was people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► debate me about that an email the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► which sure as hell was a big thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► iPhone I think also an arguably a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► thing and the iPad that's a hell of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► lot of big things oh and by the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► original Mac and the Apple 2 right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► so what's the next big thing is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► the Apple TV that we keep talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► rumors maybe it is I don't know but in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► certain point five years ten years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► now people go yeah they did all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► great things but the odd tab is the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► one or but that TV thing was the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► one what have they done for me lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► right and so maybe Tim Cook feels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► kind of pressure to start putting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► fields for the next big thing is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► jobs would just decide Brunel he thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► the next big thing was you know he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► be influenced by other people talk to um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► but he would say you know I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► should do a phone let's figure that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► and it count with the damn phone well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► someone's got to be making that decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► at Apple now go home what about games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► so maybe Apple would talk to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► maybe that is you know not what Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► Jobs would do if you decided they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► to do a game thing they'd do a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► thing I wouldn't talk to bow forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► valve you know we're gonna crush valve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► whatever but I still don't think apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► into gaming and I don't think they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► think they need valve and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► reason valve would contact Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► maybe to try to put out feelers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► their weird hardware experiments but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► think they would be rebuffed so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► said I don't think any of this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► uh but I I think those two companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► could have things to offer each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► even if they don't think they do I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► we'll end it there we don't what I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► talk about the new Gmail UI I'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► that for next week and Instagram which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► is thought I'm talking about teasers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5935">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► so people can follow you you use Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► still I do Sarah at Syracuse is IRAC us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► a on Twitter I'm Dan Benjamin on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► you can hear previous episodes of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5953">TS</a>]
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01:39:24 ◼ ► number to the end / 64 we'll take you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► this show where we have all the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► notes that John has carefully curated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► over the last week organized curated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► ordered all there for you and thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► very much to the help spot.com guys for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5978">TS</a>]
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01:39:45 ◼ ► them and that's it Jon right anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► else anything else you want to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► think you've got it all alright thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnwIQsY/5989">TS</a>]