00:00:09 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► the world of Apple related technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► and businesses nothing is so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► that it can't be complained about by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► co-host John siracusa I'm Dan benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► this is episode number 61 it's March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► 30th 2012 we have two sponsors we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/25">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► like to thank very much for making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► show possible the first one the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► studio studio neat dot-com these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► guys who make frame Agra fur cosmonaut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► the glyph tell me more about them as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► show goes on I also want to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► that we thank our second sponsor apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► feiyr.com these guys make it possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► for iOS developers to get their apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► discovered it's true we also want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► thank you very very much to joint comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► these guys are making the bandwidth for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► this show possible cloud software the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/63">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► software stack you don't know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► means you should go to joint comm check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► him out hello Jon siracusa I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► hear the ringing sound this time sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► stealth ring I didn't think I was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► hear you I saw the dialog appear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► clicks answer but then Eric and is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► why you were completely silent instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/92">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► Preferences window and making sure I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/96">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► the rings at the right audio thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► don't like Skype y'all right now i root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► every week it's something new that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► doesn't work it's a good theme for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/106">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► show every week it's something new mm-hm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► that doesn't alright are you ready I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► already recording that's great this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► all part of the show all edited out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► is the show follow up a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/126">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► and then collection of small topics one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► or more which may metastasize into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► something larger we'll see all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► first one I have my list here is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► talked a little bit about the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► remote and now I didn't like it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► last week that guy wrote in sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► don't have the notes in for me to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► whose name was the defending it saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► how it was a constructed and interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► solid piece of aluminum with no seams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► and I pondered when reading that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► where are the seams on this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► then you know like maybe it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► those if the seam is so small you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► even see it because otherwise how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► they get the stuff inside and a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► bunch is like it's like a Twinkie how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/175">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► they get this stuff inside the toy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► you got the hole in the bottom Twinkie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► only if you look really close so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► assuming you look really close at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► well summon a bunch of people send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► the URL of some person who disassembled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► the Apple remote and basically it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/187">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► of like mummification I guess where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► everything inside this this remote comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► through the circular battery door on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► bottom so the little motherboard inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► there is round so it fits just barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► fits through that hole and all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/205">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► parts are like shoved in there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► really is basically a solid piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► aluminum that's been hollowed out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► all the parts are shoved in through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► hole at the bottom so that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► clever very clever interesting way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► make a very solidly built remote that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► terrible in all ways the term remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► could be terrible but as a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► sculpture and a curiosity that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► so put that link in the shows Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► Springer's was the first person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► write in to tell me that Apple actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► sold two generations the iPod Touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► generation at the same time for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► entire year I vaguely remember this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► when he brought it up but I looked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► in Wikipedia as well you remember like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► when the new third generation iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► came out they kept the the 8 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► model around and it was the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► generation so you had to be careful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► oh when you buy one don't buy the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► gigabyte because you're getting last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► generation thing that was like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► around nerd circles but I bet lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► people bought the 8 gigabyte one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► didn't know they were getting last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/261">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► generation and still don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► don't care so once again with you the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► numbering issue they just won't die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► somehow we all survived selling to iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► Touches to different generations for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► entire year and I bet most people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► including the Nerds listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► Josh Bader was the first person to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► GarageBand has those same giant pop-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► tooltip things we talked about for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► iPhoto for iOS where the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► Apple's decided the user interface is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/291">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► something you know a question mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► button they can tap and then tooltips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► appear all over everything saying click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► this to do this thing and this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► does that and if you want these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/304">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► they're over here and sweat you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► I haven't played with GarageBand so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► iPhoto for iOS was the first application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► where I found myself looking for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► question mark pressing it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/314">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► actually reading all the tooltips but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► apparently it's been a thing for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/317">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► I think it's pretty reasonable way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► have an interface it's not gummed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► with a bunch of instructions and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► that you're only going to need the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► time but also providing an obvious way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► for people who have no idea what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/330">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► looking at to to figure it out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► they're not going to read documentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► you're not going to send them off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► like a webpage or where they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► read about the thing or a paper manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► or anything that this is right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/341">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► screen in the moment showing you exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► what they're talking about if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► only interested in this one button you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/345">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► just look at the one yellow thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► pointing to it I think it's a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► approach but I also think if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► possible to get all the benefits of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► UI without requiring that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► would be good too that may just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► matter of building up traditions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► what would you call them idioms where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► all sort of become familiar with like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► know now we all know well now when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► see that gear icon the little circular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/366">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► gear that it's going to be some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► like settings or menu or something not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► that it's very well defined but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► that gear first came around like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► was the first person to use that gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► like what the heck does a gear have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► do with anything that's lurking under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► that menu but eventually we come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► associate certain symbols with certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► things so that may happen on iOS if all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► these different UIs can converge on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► few idioms besides the basic ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► apples already done with like on/off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/392">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► switches and buttons and scroll regions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and stuff on the topic of the continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► mystery about RGB hi RGB low and Auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► these settings in the HDMI output menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► for the Apple TV dance term who wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► last week clarified wrote in again one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► particular scenario that can happen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► you decide to go with RGB hi-nrg below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► and you guessed wrong we talked last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► week about that that's you know sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► a certain signal to the television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► there's two different families of signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► one uses the entire 8-bit range from 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► to 255 to map from black to white or 0% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► red to 100% red or whatever and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► other video format which at which 16 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► black and 235 is white and the extremes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► are just chopped off well if you force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► the Apple TV to send whichever we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► don't know by the way whichever one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/443">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► those things is the 0 to 255 if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► force it to send that one and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► televisions not expecting it it could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► the wrong thing but even if it does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► right thing like say you send a 16 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► 235 and your televisions is all getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► 16 - 2 to 35 but really I want the 0 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► 255 so let me expand that out so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► takes the range and stretches it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► then it goes through another device the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► that takes the range and so I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► shrink this and it shrinks it and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► have these things like expanding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► shrinking taking a limited range and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► doing it longer or some of them like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► chopping off the ends of the range as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► you go through more and more devices if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/476">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► any one of those devices makes a wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► decision you're sort of accumulating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► errors and degrading your video signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► quality not at an analogue way but in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► digital way where like if any device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► discards everything under 16 and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► shouldn't have you've lost that data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► then if the next device in the chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► gets the 16 to 235 and expands it to 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► to 255 now not only have you lost that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► data but you've taken the remaining data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► and stretch it over a long range you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► start to get banding stuff like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► once again reinforcing the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► Auto is probably the correct setting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► most people and Tom goossens wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► tell me why he thinks that those menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► items were added apparently they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► added in version 4.3 be - I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► if that's true or not of the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► software uh and they he thinks it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► added because some European televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► suffered from some bug that caused the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► colors to invert after like five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/527">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► of watching and it was a suspected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/528">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► BCP like handshaking thing that goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► according to this theory is that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► puts in menu items that say look if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► television like gets confused and starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► guessing wrong about the input its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► receiving you can force it you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► are autonegotiation thing turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► whatever the heck RGB high nerd to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/550">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► experience that bug he's saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► probably don't ever need to force it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► do that but that may be the explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/558">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► of why those settings are in there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► negotiation is not working for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► reason whether it's the fault of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► Apple TV or these Sony television sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► in Europe or whatever I should have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/568">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► sup in the iPad section still people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► talking about products being having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► having awareness of product generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► and products being sold at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► counterparts and I was mentioning how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► like it than the BMW product line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► most luxury cars when they developed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► new platform they don't immediately push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► that platform across their entire range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► so the example he gave was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► convertible usually isn't on the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► platform until like the very end that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► the last one they put on and someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► has a Twitter handle but no long name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► associated with it so I'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► Andy Norman CX his name is probably and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► a Norman I'm guessing says that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► past Volkswagen sold a convertible Golf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► there was two generations behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► can you imagine Apple doing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► that would basically be they would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► be selling ipad ones right now as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► the $99 iPad or something crazy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► that although they don't really drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► prices that much on the the convertibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► because they're still considered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► luxury car so this thing happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► other markets I'd never heard of a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► being sold it was two generations behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► but apparently that happens as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► david mcintosh it's not spelled like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► computer but it's spelled like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► is going way back to what episode with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/645">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► timestamp except asad 48 at one hour 36 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► minutes and two seconds where apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► we begin discussion of what the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► word that parents use to refer to video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► game systems will be and went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► the kids are on the Atari in the 70s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► then I guess that the next one would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/669">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► like they're playing the Nintendo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► then they're on the PlayStation all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► PlayStation and now they're all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► Xbox and this is regardless of whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► you actually had an Xbox of PlayStation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► and Nintendo or when I was just a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► that people used as the catch-all phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► for that infernal videogame box that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► kids seem to be spending all their time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/690">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► with even if it was a you know a Sega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► Genesis instead of calling the Tendo so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► I was I was pondering what will the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/696">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► even though Xbox is isn't the dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► console this generation it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► the Wii it sold more than both the Xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► and the PlayStation so I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► what what is it what is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► next name we're going to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► PlayStation is it going to stay on Xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► for two generations is we finally going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► to become to prominence with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► high-definition Wii and David has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► suggestion that I think is very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► and may actually be true he says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► the next name the pants were member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► alene game consoles is ipad and that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► be the case like if you think about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► know think about how much your son plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► with his iPad now and you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► gonna be accurate but you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► telling I'm like it's always on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► thank you telling people that now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► that's the thing that we're complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► about that our kids are always on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► as soon as I get in the room he's taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► the iPad from either kids are always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► that iPad and it's true my son - he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► plays with the iPad as well maybe we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► the parents and the thing that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► complaining about that our kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► always on playing games it could very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► well be the iPad uh when people what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► when I would say that to people I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► the idea they get is that whole so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► can have iPads hooked up to our TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► that's gonna be the game console and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► that's not powerful enough and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► thinking in the old school but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/774">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► that's the way it always is the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► previous one so well we'll see how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► turns out but I you know this I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► it had a show stewing in my mind about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► Apple and gaming but I don't it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► nebulous at this point but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► that's a topic worth discussing at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► point in the future to figure out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► that becomes the case in evapo really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► does come to dominate all of gaming not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► dominating now what does it mean to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► seemingly so disinterested in gaming is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► uninterested in gaming I was good those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/806">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► nice well here but but take a step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► for one moment you as a highly technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► person you're not going to refer to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► kid if your kids are playing a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► that isn't an iPad you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► refer to as an iPad no that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► like the reason one name comes to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► of dominate that realm is because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► like overwhelmingly popular in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► culture if and usually also in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► like the tons of people bought Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► Entertainment System so all the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/836">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► were on the Nintendo and yeah lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► Sega Genesis sold and some parents did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/839">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► say Sega but I was my contention this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► whole entire theory is that there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► word that comes to be the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► touchstone for video gaming and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► usually the console that sells the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► copies but not necessarily as in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► case of the Xbox where Xbox became the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► associates with get always their kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► are on the Xbox even when it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► Xbox even his PlayStation simply because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► it was a new name and people had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► PlayStation for two generations so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► though technically savvy parents would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► be technically accurate it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► the place this current generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► kids who are now like it's still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► single-digit ages the place where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► will play most of their games may turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► out to be on an iOS device and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/878">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► an iPad you know seems likely I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/879">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► only certainly in volume I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► just because like casual games has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► become a thing in the we already won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► last console generation which was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► or less still you know they were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/893">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► and Nintendo for years dominated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► portable game space with its gameboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► line of products but this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► the iPad is just broadens the base even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► farther so it could be that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► split here and that the iPad comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► dominate gaming but the hardcore gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► like retrench in their little world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► the PlayStation 4 and the Wii U you me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► also whatever the heck they call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/919">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► next the next next generation of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► and the Xbox 720 Xbox 960 or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► right but it credits a david mcintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► channel he made that up himself but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► the word I was may have been looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► that episode was iPad so we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/936">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► to the end of the last show about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► weird limits in iOS for displaying JPEGs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► like super high resolution JPEGs within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► webpages in WebKit saying if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► put this mostly for photographers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► Duncan Davidson mm-hmm was put up a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► post like I'm trying to show my awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► super high-resolution photos that I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► sees a professional photographer right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► don't want them to show on a web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► you can show them off and it seems when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► I put up images of that are like too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► or whatever that they start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► subsampled and it's not showing the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► resolution on my new Retina right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► would think if you send out the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► resolution thing possible that it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► going to display on that device at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► highest possible resolution the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► can display but in fact there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► kind of threshold there that where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► something completely unexpected and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► wrong yeah and this was a breaking story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► at least for me at the time of last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► recording and I said ahead and read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► too much on it right so we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► it a little bit and people have written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► me in and I've done my research and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► most pertinent piece I think and I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► in the show notes is a link to Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► developer documentation that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► outright JPEG image is larger than 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► megapixels are subsampled that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► subsampling allows the user to view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► images from the latest digital cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► that's a nice way to spin it so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► documented feature that basically to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► device may not have the resources to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► display your humongous 55 megabyte you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► know what is the thing of the Canon 5d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► Mark 3 images or whatever uh because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► just don't have the capacity to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► so anything that's beyond our threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► and I'm assuming these thresholds were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► set based on memory or decoding CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► whatever they're going to subsample it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► and show a smaller version and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► spin on is that this allows the user to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► view images from latest digital camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► the implication being that if we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► do this the machine would not simply not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► be capable of displaying images of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► resolution because it would be a RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► issue or CPU issue for decoding or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► whatever autodidact spelled in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► strange way on Twitter tells me that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► thinks it might be because uh and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► way this limitation doesn't apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► Energy's only applies to JPEGs he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► might be because PNG compression has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► gotten faster on the the newer iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► hardware but JPEG compression has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► advanced at the same rate so it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► that they have some sort of CPU or GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► feature that helps them decode JPEGs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► like four times faster than they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► be able to you know on this new hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► but the JPEG decompression has not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► keeping pace with that and if they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► know if they just let you use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► giant JPEGs even who wasn't a RAM issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► that the decoding time would start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► interesting theory as well but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► the mystery of whether this is a bug or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► a feature it is apparently a feature and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► presumably one that will be loosened up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► as either as Apple figures out a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► way to do it or as the devices get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► whatever and related to that Mihai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► I'll get rise par par par are pirate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► that I don't know sorry I did I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► got me high right I look that one up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► before the show writes in to point me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► a post from someone an apple to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► triple W style mailing list which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► the w3.org mailing list for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► discussing CSS basically all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► who are members of the I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► which call it consortium of companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► that are members of this committee that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► specifications and on an ongoing basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► Apple loves to do this and has done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► representative who is on those lists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► participating in this process right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► list with the proposal and say here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► what we're thinking we're thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► doing something like this what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► guys think of that to try to open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► discussion and usually what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► the discussion on the notice happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► people debate the pros and cons but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► Apple just goes off in implements it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► sometimes the Apple people will emailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► list after they've already implemented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► and say here's what we're thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► the way we already edited WebKit so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► which probably annoys the people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► isn't it supposed to be collaborative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► and we have a consensus or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► as we've talked about in past shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► Apple really does not want to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► any sort of consensus to form it thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► it has an idea it will implement that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► the standards body comes up with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► equivalent or better standard then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► Apple will adopt that as well but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► meantime Apple just wants to get stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► done and so that is relevant to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► press discussion because what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► proposing here is a new CSS thing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► image - set that lets you specify in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► you know CSS rule instead of just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► you know like background image whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► or just giving you the URL to an image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► you can give you can set the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► image to something that is a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► image so you can say here is the one X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► version of this image and here's the - X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► here's the three X or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► you're trying to express the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► these are all the same images but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► they're all in different resolutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► this is a as opposed to using a media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► query or something where you say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► well if the device has a device pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► ratio of two use this style sheet or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► it has a device pixel ratio of three use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► this rule so you can say okay well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► the device pixel ratio of two devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► show the two X version of this image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► versus the other one so media queries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► applied to the entire page and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► post of the man list which is linked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► the show notes there's a little FAQ at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► the bottom and say why do it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► why not use a media query and the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► is that media queries are claim about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► the state of the user agent whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► they're trying to make a claim about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► relationship between image assets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► themselves so they're not trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► anything about oh this is a device for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► the device pixel ratio of two therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► all these new things apply this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► saying that here is associated set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► images in various resolutions and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► that allows is for the user agent - for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► example in this example to give read on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► document you use a lower res version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► that asset if the page loads into view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► where they're way zoomed out right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► even though you're on a retina iPad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► you're seeing a big a big web page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► zoomed all the way out don't load the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► two X version of that image until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► zoom in to save bandwidth for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► and if you did a media query that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► work with the media queries a solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► device pixel ratio is 2 therefore unload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► the two X versions of all these images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► and it will take a year in a day eat up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► your bandwidth cap and all that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► stuff and this also keeps the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► about the images together so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► have like a media query you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► vise pixel ratio - and then a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► CSS and then somewhere else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► document the same same rules repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► but with a different media query prefix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► this keeps the related images together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► on a single line here's an image set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► this low res version the high resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► or whatever so I like this proposal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► think it's a good idea and I what I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► like to and that me I also sent me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► link to as well I'm printing the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► is the change set in track for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► WebKit nightly builds where of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► changes added to WebKit so I don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► at the date on that and think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► mailing list post was in February of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► this year and the check in fro to WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► was from March 21st so maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► proposed it and then implement it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► now it landed there so if you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► WebKit nightlies I suspect by now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► can try out this rule and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► really good idea to me and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► it solves a lot of the problems that web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► developers are having with how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► correctly serve images to iPad threes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► I would expect it to be adopted out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► pragmatism and if the CSS working group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► wants something better they should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► moving fast because people are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► going to end up implementing this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► to get their webpages to look nice in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► the meantime you get cranky about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► doing its own thing with web stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and you're trying to get out of the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► games Mazin effect it was trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► out of it I just think it did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► there's a the reason why I feel people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► get upset about this kind of thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► because the companies especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► Microsoft in particular who've done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► I guess you could look at Adobe in flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► but companies that come out and do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► own thing historically have a history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► not executing it very well and or doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► it in such a way that it's closed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► that right rightly bothers a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► people and I think that's the concern it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► was Joe when I when I redid this 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► site I had this as this scrolling div [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► that contained the the artwork for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► most recent shows up at the top I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► have it but I was getting contacted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► sluggish on an iOS device and I saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► and indeed it was a little bit sluggish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► it shouldn't be it was just a scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► div but it turns out there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► special funny little WebKit declaration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► just for iOS devices that you knew about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► that you told me about that fixed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► made it beautiful works beautifully and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► it's that kind of thing of course that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► supported universally Mozilla isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► going to add that chrome isn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► add that declaration because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► there is no Mozilla or Chrome for an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► device so they don't need to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► that kind of thing really they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► but if Apple builds this culture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► people who are developing and learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► all these special things why isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► the same as what people had to do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► years for Internet Explorer that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► concern is that the more that they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► off and do their own thing the more they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► different things like that and another's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► kind of veering in a different direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► where you were going that's the concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► dude do I worry about that to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► your question and no and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► because I'm moving away from the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► design stuff I still do a lot of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► it's that I feel that building building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► something that targets a certain device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► something custom you know you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► it if you want to look up that WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► declaration to make the iOS browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► experience better you're doing this in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► conscious way and it's not like doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► for a browser that a certain percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► platform that's shared by everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► you're building something that's custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► and unique just for a device for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► targeting and if you've chosen to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► that and said this is something extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► that I'm going to put in that rides on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► experience then I think it's OK and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► long as that's kind of the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► company's head and in particular saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► hey you want to make this better for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► users do this then I'm alright with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► anything that kind of infringes and goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► to the next step and says this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► way it should be across the board and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► that makes me a little uh a little leery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► yeah I think web developers are usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► of two minds about this there's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► level that that you were just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► about it on it's like look you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► site there's something that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► perform better like it's not you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► spend time agonizing over whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► should add that rule once once if it saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► that it worked yeah of course you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► gonna head not gonna go oh well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► that fixes my problem for my customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► but I really don't want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► because it could hurt the future of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► blah blah blah know you add it like cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► that's the one level of operating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► second level operating is people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► this for a living and constantly have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► do these pragmatic things that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► their websites better for customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► start to think at a level higher and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► oh that's well well and good but what am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► by what kind of environments is creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► and if I extrapolate from this does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► make things worse down the road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► that's kind of the zelban level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► thinking about the web as a larger thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► at the same exact time again I'm at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► know Sheldon himself is was using all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► these crazy tricks to get stuff to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► for customers but at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► saying I would really not like to use I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► would like not to have to use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► tricks at all and it would be good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► make something standard yeah I pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► for the most part with it's stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► this I I feel pretty good about what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► does mostly because for now I truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► believe that it's not its intention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► embrace extend and extinguish because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► it's so much it'd be much more logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► explanation as far as I'm concerned is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► that they simply want to move faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► than the w3c process moves you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► even setting aside whether they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► their proposal is better than the w3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► comes up with as a group or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► like they're good they want to ship an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► iPad 3 they want people to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► make web pages and absolute look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► something they need something at ASAP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► they simply can't wait for the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► and I think a lot of people think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► rude to like oh well why don't you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► know do your proposal let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► it'll just implement don't land the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► commit into the WebKit thing two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► later and say well you guys took too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► long like apples got products to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► and customers to satisfy and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► most of its proposals are reasonable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► aren't crazy and don't involve like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► well this extension you know will only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► installed and only Apple has access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► that GPU like some sort of weird locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► type thing I think they just want stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► that works and this is the case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► there's no like - WebKit on the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► it so clearly they're there it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► little bit more bold and they usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► are what like the WebKit touch whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► scroll like I never remember these names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► but the little hack to use that edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► there when you when you add this to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► thing it's not clear that it's a WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► only thing or maybe I should look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► check in I didn't look at the disk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► see maybe they edit it with a - WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► to begin with even though the proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► edit without but I think Apple is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► good about backfilling in it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► when there's a standardized version a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► way to do this they will backfill and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► say we'll support that eventually as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► three people are unsatisfied with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► speed at which that happens like WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► will continue to support the WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► border-radius whatever it's like we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► come on WebKit when are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► support our official border-radius money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► you know there's always that lag where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► standardized everyone wants to see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► the browsers that have vendor specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► extensions to immediately roll out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► support for the standardized version and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► deprecated the old one but that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► more slowly than people would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► but let's just say you know I feel okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► with it but I'm keeping my eye on I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► my eye on you Apple I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► everybody is everyone is so wary of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► and they're held to a very high standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► so I think I think it's wise to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► your eye on extensions like that hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► let's do our let's do our first sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► good idea you ready for that yeah all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► right it's what I love to tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► studio neat calm have you got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► cosmonaut yet no I wish I had it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► I'm using lesser reportedly lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► styluses or I really like this by lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► stylist is do you mean your finger my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► finger no we do have two styluses in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► house I don't even know the brands in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► them I just know I'm not satisfied both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► them at everybody raves about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► cosmonaut gotta get it okay so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► guys the studio neat calm guys is two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► guys that founders of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► they're the ones that came up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► glyph do you remember the glyph this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► the little stand slash tripod mount for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► the iPhone 4 and 4s and this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► sparked and created what what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► dubbed the the indie hardware revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that is come up with a cool idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► some cool piece of hardware get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► started on Kickstarter and and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► and make millions of people happy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► invented that well they didn't invent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► but they were the first to do it so in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► way they did invent it and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► came out with his cosmonaut same concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► this is the coolest stylus it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► it's like an adult crayon for an iPad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► guess you could use an iPhone to love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► this thing this thing is is awesome this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► is why I'm doing so much better than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► by the way Jon and draw something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► they they have a new product out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► called frame agra fur and this lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► do stop motion picture stop motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► when you were kid didn't you always want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► to get some Legos together or some clay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and like make a stop-motion movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► you realize that you would need several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► thousand dollars of equipment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► experience as a photographer to even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► you don't need that anymore you go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► your iPhone you and you get free MOG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► refer on it and now you're making some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► motion picture movies and they show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► how easy this is it's great you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► studio neat calm and you enter five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► five coupon code five by five at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► checkout 20% off 20% off so go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► them out studio need calm love them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► should because they should become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► longtime sponsor I'm just going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► that shame on them if they don't I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► no idea that the cosmonaut was from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► company that made the glyph or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► I thought it was a product from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► established big company I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► they were kicker I miss this frame Agra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► think I'm gonna buy this head to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► show for my son because it looks awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► in July did I did try to do that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► times it's a child and failed miserably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► because was it 16 millimeter film yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► what was that the film format used when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► we were kids does not lend it 35 600 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► 16 went in the little the little cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► that we could have right no no this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► video video thing instead of still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► cameras it is it eight millimeter 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► only the really skinny film that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► fit it's like the equivalent of a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► camcorder exactly needed that gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► light that would like burn people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► eyeballs out the bad thing it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► light insensitive eight millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► people are saying in the chat room I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► don't know how many millimeters elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► converting all that old 8 millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► film to two DVDs it doesn't look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► when you convert it but it's nice nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► to try to preserve digitally all our old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► movies of us when we were kids yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► go get that I'm sure I'm sure that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► I'm sure that the the they would send on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► here's the coolest thing about the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► don't know if I should spoil it I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► in fact I won't I won't spoil it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► packaging but I won't wait see for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► yourself when you get this thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► gonna love it the way that it's packaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► up I'm not gonna ruin it for it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► it's very cool packaging these guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► great shame on them for not if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► don't sponsor again alright let's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► back to the show I'm actually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► eventually that's in my list of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► stock today yesterday oh great so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► user-agent stuff and all the image set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► that was last the follow-up and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► we're into my three small topics that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► start with a late-breaking topic which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► is seem to have a lot of love like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► I'm getting ready to record stories fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► through on Twitter or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► piqued my interest and I said that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► happened earlier this morning did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► see these stories moving around a Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► link to it and Horace had a story on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► about rim focusing on the enterprise yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► this is and this is something that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► the way John grew relates it he its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► title is rim to give up that is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► title and he links to Horace's article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► and yeah it's it's interesting what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► your thoughts on this so this is a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► that Horace has at the top of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► article and it says quoting from rims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► new CEO now they've got rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► co-ceos nigga this new job out for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► long did we give that did it last longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► than we thought it would last I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► so Thorsten Heins is name i think says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► we plan to really thirst and howl I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► think you're thinking of very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► yes we plan to refocus on the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► business and capitalize on our leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► position in this segment we believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► BlackBerry cannot succeed if we try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► be everybody's darling and all things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► therefore we plan to build on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► strengths I like the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► strength Sigma singular there is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► over so they got more than one strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► right you that are Horace miss the s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► money copied him now there's a peridot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► all right so what Horace says in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► in his article is that at one point he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► says you know focus is a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► that's great and all but you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► succeed if you focus on the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► and horse says that enterprise is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► he's an enterprise support is a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► not a product he's channeling his Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► Jobs dismissal of Dropbox there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► thing I wanted to focus on about this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► that's apt I think I've talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► distinguishes that from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► markets what makes what makes Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► different what is enterprise what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► that mean and a distinction I drew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► whatever show this was I could find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► you know people should transcribe all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► our shows so I can do a text search that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► would be nice to everyone do that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► that's tough job but anyway when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► talked about last time I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► enterprise means the people who use your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► products or not the people who buy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► incentives is poison because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► don't have to make the people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► your products happy you get you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► end up making your products optimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► for the wrong things and BlackBerry had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► had both going for a while when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► like the king of people love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► BlackBerry's the CrackBerry thing and IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► departments loved them too because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► gave IT departments all the power they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► need to you know control people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► devices and provision them and like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► were they were serving their cut their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► enterprise customers well but the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► who use them also liked them as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► because RIM wasn't just a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► sold to the enterprise it sold to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► customers if we go into the year Verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► store whatever new to come with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► Blackberry and also work would give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► one right so this is like kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► mostly because as customers abandon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► BlackBerry's because they want iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► or Android phones or whatever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► departments don't abandon it as quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► because IP departments have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► requirements that IT departments don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► care as much that newer phones are nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► to use they like the idea that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► all their you know infrastructure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► BlackBerry's and changing anything in IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► takes a long time and they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► change so the last bastion of rim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► strength is in the enterprise because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► that it's harder for them to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► there's a customer just like when their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► contract comes up they don't get a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► but enterprise big companies don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► overnight say well blackberry stinks now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► let's not use them next time then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► get everybody new phones you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► figure out all new infrastructure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► forget how your vendors going to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► goals of the stuff so they stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► I think it's the wrong place to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► because if you focus soley unsatisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► the enterprise you're basically saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► we don't care how much people like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► products we're not even going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► make a product that people like dudes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► enterprise likes to use we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► give up selling you know forget it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► never going to convince individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► people that this is that our products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► are good our only shot is to convince IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► departments that they should to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► selling with us and is absolutely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► worst thing to focus on because you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► shooting your own products in the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► it's saying that if we're not even going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► to put it as a goal in our efforts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► make people like our products we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► cared the IT department likes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► products and Horace points out is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► thing and who else poses a danger jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► talked about it on Twitter that flies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► the face of the trend which I think else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► talked about in the last show that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► eye deep IP departments power is waning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and that the new trend is to empower the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► individual employees of companies more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► to say you pick what kind of device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► you want and we will support for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► versus we dictate what everybody uses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► the company and the example I gave last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► time is like companies dictating what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► kind of cell phone you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► because they support it but they tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► not to dictate what kind of pen you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► use because pens don't require support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► it's like well if you want a pen just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► tell us you want BIC rollerball blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► blah blah model and give it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► office manager person and he'll order it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► from the stable catalog and you'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► it we don't really care about that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► if you say had like an iPhone like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► whoa well you can't have this strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► device on our network and you've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► all these things before the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► that trend is sliding because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► the important top level executives say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► important person so I'm getting one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► you IT department you work for me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► support it and that trend away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► individual choice about computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► Hardware all the way down to the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► they have in their desk and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► department that's that's not helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► that train is not helping rim because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► enterprise that makes those guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► work in those jobs are clearly happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► even though all their users hate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► phones in which they could use iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► that the power of that group the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► of their customer that they're aiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► for the enterprise ID people their power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► is waning too so this is not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► several shows ago talking about who else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► could challenge I remember when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► talking about was saying who were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► mobile space challenge we've got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► Android and you've got palm but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► dead and then I said rim and I said dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► soon well they continue along that path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► to death and also I think someone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► that wasn't the CEO or someone important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► in rim when asked is the company for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► sale he said like we wouldn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► we're open to that which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► yes something please buy us please buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► us now save us from ourselves bias and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► bias for our patents and fire all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► employees but please give me a golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► parachute you know so things not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► good for rim and I think this plan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► terrible and no one should ever focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► the enterprise for anything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► you're right and less and less these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► days is there an enterprise more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► there are startups there are freelancers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► there companies I mean look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► studio you get two guys that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► what it takes their IT department is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► like them and more and more with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► smaller and smaller companies it's today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► it's a great it is a great environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► to create a small company and do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► start-up and I don't even want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► the term startup scratch that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► a great time to start a company and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► for yourself and have that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► more so than it's ever has been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► infrastructure that we have just as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► it's amazing compared to what we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► five years ago and I saying that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► going to focus on IT on enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► rather and those IT departments those IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► groups it's just it it's crazy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► they're I sure there are still big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► companies but those companies really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► from inside out want to make the changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► that you're describing they want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► yeah our employees get to pick what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► of device they want or because our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► employees are going to do what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2518">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► anyway outside a government contracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► I mentioned this before I have a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► who until very very recently had to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► a blackberry because it was it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► only one we think we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► this on other shows they make versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► of them that don't have cameras on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► that the where they can go in and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► got you know some kind of secret clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► literally some kind of secret clearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► that he he cannot have a phone on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► that has a camera in it he can't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► phone on him that doesn't support a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► certain kind of encryption because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► the work that he was doing so he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► use a different kind of device well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► other than that I mean who who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► use you know who's for I know I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► know somebody who has it as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► client has room as a client had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► switch that phone what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► about that yeah I see the people at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► companies carrying their black way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► work and carrying their iPhone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► personal yeah I gave an even in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► actual current job when you come into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► meeting someone puts down their laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► and they put two phones on top of it put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► the BlackBerry on top but then put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► iPhone the top and one is the personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► phone and and to my company's credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► they realized this is an issue and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► want this to happen they don't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► to have your work self in your personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► self and carrying them ORM biz but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► it's you know and we're difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► companies to change the government is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► like the last bastion of that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► talk about difficult to change and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► in so many cases as you point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► they're actual legitimate reasons like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► the military is not particularly hasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► about qualifying new devices to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► know allowed to be used or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► but all these things where there's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► you're talking about starting up new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► companies and stuff like that any place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► where there's like a barrier to entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► you end up with aa drama I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► the economic terms you end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► imperfect competition where things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► actually kind of stink end up being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► quote unquote winner in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► because of these barriers and as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► barriers fall things are judged more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► the merits of what job they're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► actually like the black barrier we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► just picking it because they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► winners in the enterprise space and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► hard to start a company or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► now is we got all these you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► barrier to creating your own company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► even for anything that the Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► great thing about Kickstarter I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► has been and the interesting thing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► is that suddenly now there was a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► comfort for projects that had big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► capital investment and that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► affected the physical world like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► going to make the glyph I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► make a thing that attaches you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► a metal thing I'm not making software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► I'm not doing something I can do in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► basement just upload bits over the wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► my house and that's how I do my business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► fabricate things for me in a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► volume for the physical world I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► to make like I'm going to sell you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► thing and that was much harder to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► without initial funding whereas the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► in his part in his spare time and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► basement can start working on his cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► iOS app and Kickstarter funds those type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► of things as well but once you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► making physical things it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► geez that's the realm of the old school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► business like now you need you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► can't just make two or three of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► widgets you need a capital investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► like a real business you need a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► loan or something or whatever in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2698">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► internet says well we've got a way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► that too how about we just show people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► the thing and if they think it's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► they pledge money for it so all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► makes the things that used to determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► our choices for devices or whatever less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► relevant it's also also kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► disintermediation thing because where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► the bank in this in the Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► thing where is the bank or going man or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► no I don't know about to look at you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► don't know if I can trust you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► $10,000 you're gonna make a what for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► what you're gonna you're gonna make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► pin but it doesn't right you pointed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► you put it on a metal screen where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► don't but the pen has to act like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► finger that doesn't sound like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► loan denied and you know you're just out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► of college and you've never had a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► and you don't own a house and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► no credit that's type of stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► becomes less relevant and so you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► better better competition for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► versus you know instead of saying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► the Pens that are made or only pens by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► Belkin or other big companies not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► they make bad pens or anything like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► like the only people who can play in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► established businesses who have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► through all the hoops who have filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► out all the paperwork who have leases on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► office space who have employees and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► you know you wouldn't get the guy hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► I've got a good idea for a pen well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► that's great you have an idea maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► go work for Belk increments gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► no i'ma try to do it myself and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► gonna find a way to get money for so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► don't how we got to this from rim but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► it's a how it's all kind of of a piece I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► think I think you're right that focusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► on the enterprise makes bad products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► the enterprise the power of enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► IT is waning and the number of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► you could even call an enterprise see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► seems at least I don't know if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► say this definitively in our world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► the circles we travel and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► the more exciting interesting things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► coming from companies that didn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► or people just getting the wherewithal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► on their own and figuring out how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► it and us collaboratively figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► to do it you know it really does it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► seems like the support infrastructure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► finally where it needs to be and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► was the big change as I remember when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► all experience this amazing joy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► wonderment that a couple people or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► one person could create this website or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► web application and you always would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► hear these stories and you'd see the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► older generation the shaking our home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► add one one guy did that or five people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► did that and now they're millionaires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► and they sold - that's normal this uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► this oMG pop draws something which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► don't know if this is perhaps a segue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► into your next topic but those guys sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► - it was Zynga right for like 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► million bucks and it's like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► couple few people handful of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► that's not a that's the numbers a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► deal but the idea that a few people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► get together with a few computers build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► something and get acquired and become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► instant millionaires that's a brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► idea but we're so used to it by now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► know the old the old way to do it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► you get a startup you get tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► of investment money and you try to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► IPO that was the big thing a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► years ago and before that it was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► this old-school way of you know look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► look at the way that Steve Jobs and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► started out they had ideas well they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► to go work for company to get those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► ideas done they couldn't the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► they were going to go and build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► computer out of their garage it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► you'll never that'll never take off I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► mean everybody knows that's everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► listening to this show knows that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► that they had to work at Hewlett Packard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► they had to work at Atari they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► work at these other places to get stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► done and back then they would take their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► idea to their boss hey we've got an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► to build a computer do you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► would take this idea can I may I please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► work on this no nervous I'm gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► anything and move along I guess I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► we have to try this ourselves we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► choice now it's like screw the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► we're not giving them any of our ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► they get eight hours in my day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► that's too much you know and they're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► there trying to start their own thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► their spare time and of course that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► how you would do it and now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► Birkett some device in some physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► thing and that's the next generation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► applications even the companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► don't want to open their infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► and allow developers like Xbox you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► write a game for the Xbox I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► that the Xbox doesn't like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► don't want they are allowing you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► it but they would prefer to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► everything because that's the mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► maybe they're coming around maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► they're seeing further we're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► that this is a great way to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► when they started out you could tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► was with great hesitation now it's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► there great you build your cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► with the Xbox but the next generation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► being able to build and fabricate those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► physical things Kickstarter makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► possible a couple guys show up we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► neat idea here's the prototype do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► hey donate we get enough donations well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► we're going to do this thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► they do it and it's it's um it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► it's absolutely the next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► things is it that instead of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► building something that's really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► and neat that you can see on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► computer screen or on your iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► build something that's real that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► physical that people can use pretty soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► everybody will have what do they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► those dye-sublimation but though those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► three-deep everyone will have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► those you'll be able to create your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► gizmo right there your own houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► the thing about iOS apps and the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► that goldrush made sense is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► you in your basement in your spare time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► or whatever you write you not to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► your basement I guess you write you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► you write into the paper to help you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► your commute to work but you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► your regular job and if it takes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► like a I can switch over this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► viable business now no no neither the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► job now this is my job right and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► did you what did you put at risk there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► did you quit your job first no did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► take out a big bank loan no did you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► higher employees and get venture capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► it was like you can transition into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► without the big capital investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► physical things that I said are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► difficult to do that with but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► strange thing that's happening here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► it now you can do how should i phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► this I I want to get back to your idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► the getting acquired it versus doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► doing an IPO because I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► is an anti-pattern that exists and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► some people get upset about that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► this cool thing and you don't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► a big initial investment and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► get then you get acquired and you cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► out but then at the end of that what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► you really what did you really do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► succeeded in making yourself rich right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► like this is this get some losing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► think because everyone hit single for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► various reasons you succeeded in making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► yourself rich but then what did you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► did you really accomplish how did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► change the world versus something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► Facebook which is the other great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► example of Mark Zuckerberg making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► thing and steadfastly refusing to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► out right he didn't say what are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► Yahoo or Microsoft won like a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► dollar you know it so many offers he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► said no no I'm not going to sell this he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► could have he could have cashed out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► many times and been extremely rich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► been just fine but he kept it to himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► because he was trying to model himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► after like Steve Jobs Steve Wozniak Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► Gates where you don't sell because for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► them it wasn't you know no one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► rushing to buy Apple as soon as they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► a successful Apple to where as in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► day and age if you were in your garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► and made the Apple 2 so the equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► successful people would be clamoring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► buy you Google would want to buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► Microsoft want everyone want to buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► doesn't happen back then so they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► their big companies they became Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► they became Microsoft and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► other model where you you want to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► controlled and you don't want to cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► out so I think the the fact that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► get off the ground and beat and make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► company that people want to acquire is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► good and I don't think there's anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► wrong with that I'm people like all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► cash out that like that's perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► Who am I to complain about it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► what they want to do and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► they made the thing they want to sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► bully for them isn't that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► reward for hard work but some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► think that's not a girly as someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► posted a link to will Shipley's success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► and farming versus mining thing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► 2011 right I should put that in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► notes that's a good example this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► other thing I want to talk about is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► idea that for iOS apps and even physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► products for iOS apps you just write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► you send it to Apple they take care a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► lot of details again removing barriers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► to entry and her physical products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► with funding then you can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► contract out someone to to manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► these things for you and work out all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► the details they are not saying that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► easy but it's a thing I think the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► barrier to entry and I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► really really important one they exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► for everybody is say your goal is not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► make an iOS app or and not to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► small physical product or an iPad case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► or something like that what you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► do is make something that's closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► application for everybody to use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► you want to be the next Twitter or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► next Facebook and that's you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► that that's your goal so that path is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► not as clear because the barriers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► commoditized way for you to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► there's ec2 and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► they're still feeling that if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► to be the next Google you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► to become the next Google building on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► top of ec2 right because it's not easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► for with any amount of money even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► venture capital even with just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► know even with unlimited funds how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► make an internet scale application I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► think that's still more mysterious art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► then for example making an iOS app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► doing physical manufacturing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► like that and that's a barrier to entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► to the incumbents how do you I become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► the next Google how do I become the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► Facebook even if you get everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► right it's like well then how are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► going to make a quote-unquote web-scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► application can you can you you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► to write an application that 500 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► people can use it once nobody knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► to do that basically everybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► sort of like you know they stumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► through Facebook just figures out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► you know they've got a problem solve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► got a problem solved but in the end they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► end up with this weird crazy customized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► conglomeration of stuff that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► really repeatable anyone else if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► the people at Facebook like I'm I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► to make the next Facebook should I model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► my infrastructure exactly on yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► they'd be like well ours looks like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► for reasons XY and Z and if we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► do it all over again starting today we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► wouldn't do it this way but blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► blah and the commoditized approach of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► ec2 and stuff like that it exists but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► don't think it's not to the point like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► where we're like iOS app development is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► where you can say I'm gonna make an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► app and Apple's gonna sell it for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► I'm not going to lose sleep over how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► they sell it like they know how to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► credit card money they know how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► if you're making a web scale gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► you better be losing sleep over geez how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► do we deal with success how do we end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► how do we divide what Twitter had where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► you had those you know months or years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► where nothing worked right and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► horrible is it impossible to avoid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► is everyone have to go through that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► is I think a big big barrier to entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► even as all the other types of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► that I talked about at the barriers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► entry lowering and I guess it's lowering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► in web-scale applications to it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► still bothers me that seemingly even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► with infinite money witness Apple it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► not it like there's no nobody knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► to make a service that's reliable all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► the time as reliable as you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► should be just look at Siri Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► probably tons of smart people and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► half the time Siri is down and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► are cranky about it well how could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► not get that right if they can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► what chance to two guys in the room have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► to get something off the ground and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► infrastructure problems and not have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► like figure out on their own for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► umpteenth time just like Facebook had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► figure out just like eBay had to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► out just like Apple's figuring out just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► like Microsoft figures out everyone does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► everyone have to do it on their own and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► figure out what do we have to do to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► our application to scale it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► we should be converging towards some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► application but we're very very far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► that and that that I think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► remaining barrier to entry of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► want to be the next Facebook what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► preventing me from doing it is it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► ideas this is my skill no it's the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► succeeded you'd be doomed because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► have no idea to make an application of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► that scale and basically nobody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► that kind of depresses me that was quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► a tangent that was well let's do our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► second and last sponsor for today if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► you'll all out go for it uh it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► you're talking about it's actually ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► in somewhat with this topic conveniently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► you come out with an iOS app you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► get discovered you want to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► thing out there you want to get this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► in front of the world so how are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► going to do it you come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► really cool game right and and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► you get gets submitted they prove it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► you say oh I want this thing to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► and you pick the day and that same day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► that very same day Angry Bird space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► and within moments that thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► number one paid app in the entire store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► it's all anybody's ever talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► and your app comes and goes nobody ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► notices it and you you don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► start your own company you don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► say no to Zynga when they offer to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► because nobody ever finds your game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► that's the end of the story right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► happens to people all the time is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► anything you can do maybe there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► is where apps fire comes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► picture because finding things as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► consumer finding things in the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► no matter whether it's iTunes App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► or whether it's this Google Play or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► it's very difficult apps fire changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► all that they have these really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► guides they're designed to help people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► find the best apps games everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► will help you find them and if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► developer if you're creating this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► want a service like this you want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► how is my app getting get found tons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► millions of people uses these they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► got this 148 apps award they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► nominated to the top 50 must-have apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► for Android they're people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► Android apps John should be telling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► tomorrow not me all right and I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► him in any case their philosophy their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► belief is that every good app deserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► to be discovered and and they'll help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► you get your app promoted and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► this is it's a great service I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► know what more to say about it you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► if you're making an app and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► looking at this shame on you so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► the deal 10% off use a coupon code 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► 10% off and the first developer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► contacts them they have a set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► special email address five by five at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► campaign will be free so you get apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► fire calm slash five by five and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► you're there you sign up 10% off with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► coupon code five by five thanks very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► much taps fire for supporting the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► and before I forget I also want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► mention about the these show nuts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► John takes hours of his time he should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► finding links submitting them to our CMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► or if painstakingly organizing them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► you can find those at 5x5 dot TV slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► hypercritical and and in this case / 61 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► it's episode 61 you can see all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► links that he is collected there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► they are there in the show notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► people are off and email me I get at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► least an email every day or two about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► this is there any way that I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► these show notes without having to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► the website and the answer is yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► can just subscribe to the to the feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► with your favorite RSS reader and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► the links and things will show up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► there so we can say thanks very much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► the the burly men of help spot com who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► create the best helpdesk software in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► business for making that possible I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► also tell the people who are using RSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► for that to be careful if you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► an RSS reader that aggressively catches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► occasionally I'll add one last show no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► it's linked like right after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► finish airs or whatever and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► using Google Reader you're never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► see that link because Google Reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► caches seemingly forever and cannot be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► convinced not to cache it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► the RSS articles like I had I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► said that before but I had like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► tumblr spam that I deleted it's still if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► you go to the Google Reader feed for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► tumblr blog you still see that spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► there even though it's been gone for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► know months no way to flush that out no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► no way to do it so anyway that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► complaint about Google Reader but do be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► careful and I would encourage people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► actually put the website oh and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► apparently are not sure what the sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► code is for studio need do can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► repeat that again yes it is very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► remember for people so I apologize it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► the number 5b why and the number five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► yeah they said they tried that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► here's something else you're missing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► this in the chat room this is what go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► there and too much negativity I'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► Sinai our vacation from it that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► that's why I'm there for you I'm your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► proxy so here holy cow says and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► know what this is related to but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► thought it was worth repeating oh man if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► I had a dollar for every time I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► impress a girl by buying a domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► that's that's the five by five chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► in a nutshell and desk so they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► the coupon code doesn't work I will I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► has been working maybe they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► inundated and they've they've that 20% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► has come back to bite them and now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► owe people money I don't know I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► says they worked for him he was 5x5 just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► ordered a cosmonaut it worked so really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► yeah so it may be an unrelated problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► will also say that somebody who had last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► sponsoring last week and that the parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► leads person is a big 5x5 fan a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► listener they they went out and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► hearing was it you and I who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► talking about I was talking to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► in one of the shows about the cosmonaut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► and they went out and bought one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► then hours later they heard though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► they're sponsoring they wrote him an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► email they said listen I just bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► this thing is there anything you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► for me and they said oh we'll give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► they gave him 20% off very nice I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► there was a you know I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► everybody can make that happen but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► did on the while we're on the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► just see bring ask me I'm still ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► the abun to review are you referring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► the Joe Perillo thing where he tries out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► of bun 2 and that video ha right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► actually started watching that and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► only like a quarter through it it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► not holding my interest obviously I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► not really that interested in every I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► think the reason is not holding my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► interest is that regardless of how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► or how badly this attempt to use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► particular Linux distribution goes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► know what lies beneath in Linux and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► know how thin the shell is between ok I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► don't know you could argue that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► shell is just as thin - Mac OS 10 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► like at a certain point you fall off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► cliff on Linux there is the GUI they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► provide for you which is certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► as support not supported as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 GUI and then beneath that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► Linux which I we all know is not viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► for regular people to deal with at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► in any way shape or form so I'm I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► I don't know I'll watch it anyways you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► can learn stuff about using direction by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► watching and I will eventually watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► entire thing but nothing and it is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► to convince me that therefore Linux is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► the next mass-market consumer platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► is Linux and you could say like Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► is an example like if you give someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► an Android phone you're not afraid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► at some point they're gonna going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► have to like you know install an RPM or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► like edit edit a file at C or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► like it's not going to happen even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► though it's quote-unquote Linux but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► Ubuntu and Linux on the desktop has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► still not quite reached that threshold I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► think of well it's Linux but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► have to know it's Linux all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► maybe it'll get there someday and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► know that's the perennial joke the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► of Linux on the desktop when did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► 1998 right like for whatever reasons it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► hasn't happened we all agree it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► happened and you know I if it did happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► I would be open to it like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► Android no one is saying oh you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► use Android because it's Linux and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► regular people can't use Linux it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► even a fact or not even brings that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► like it's clear to everybody when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► have successfully hidden the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► UNIX that has actually lying beneath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► a particular thing I think Mac OS 10 has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► clearly done that Android has clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► done that there are probably other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► examples was webOS Linux based ooh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► just assume everything is these days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► guess webOS was a believe a Linux based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► I don't know yet do you know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► exactly what flavor of it but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► their own thing but yeah I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► was in all of the apps in that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► JavaScript yeah but it like Ubuntu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► the lint the desktop Linux distributions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► are still kind of in an old world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► like no this is real Linux okay what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► that means to me is the Linux will show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► through eventually and there we it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► bad seen all right I actually have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► more small things here but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► everyone fit them both in I have will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► shepley's post about the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► and then I have draw something should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► do both of them one of them your choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► tell me them and them again you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► going so quickly I always do will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► Shipley's host about the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► but I did like that I did like that post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► and then draw something we got to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► draw something though right so I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► both or just one so your choice based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► time constraints how about this we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► start with draw something and we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► how how deep we go into there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► rabbit hole okay so draw something for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► people don't know is a game that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► out on the App Store a couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► maybe a month I don't know and it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► wrong picture you get a word in draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► picture and then you send that picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► to somebody else and they have to guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► what word you were drawing that picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► in response to and then you know so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► a asynchronous multiplayer kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► words with friends or the other Scrabble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► type things be drawn to be online at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► same time to play with each other it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► seems like such a natural fit for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► devices that it mazes me that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► made this game before it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► this is one of those things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► first time you play like how I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► this before and then you realize no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► you haven't or maybe you have maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► games like this had existed on how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► episode is like 500,000 apps for all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► know there could be you know but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► for whatever reason whatever combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► of like awareness and serendipity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► marketing and critical mass and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► this became popular and it just does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► that viral thing where it spreads or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► eventually like we're all playing draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► something at this point I'm playing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► you're playing it everybody is playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► with it I'm still playing Words With [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► Friends by the way so you know some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► these trends seem I like asynchronous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► multiplayer because I like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► just like if I want to have two seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► of fun and thought and then it goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► and I don't have to be online at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► same time is somebody ah but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► everybody every tech nerd who played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► draw something and maybe also every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► artist but I don't know immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► things like bar this game is popular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► it's got critical mass and everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► playing it but within five minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► using it I can think of a hundred things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► that they should know differently in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► this application that would make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► better application and that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► one of the other sort of non merit-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► factors that leads success that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► people angry and that one is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► popularity and critical critical mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► like we all hate Facebook or a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► people hate Facebook but Facebook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► where all the people are same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► eBay so like when something that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► has a network effect gets critical mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► it becomes frustrating to people who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► like well if I was to judge this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► on its quality as a game as compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► say there was an alternative it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► better or even know if there is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► can see that this actually isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► great but it's got this other advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► that we think it's quote unquote unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► that well everybody's on it therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► it's a barrier to entry to competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► that we think is not based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► quality of the product but it's based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► other factors based on its popularity or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► whatever I definitely get that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► one caveat I will say is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► possible to explain away a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► complaints or try to explain them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► by saying yes that would make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► application easier to use or better or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► it would make drawing more efficient or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► application is not to be a drawing app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► it's not Adobe Illustrator it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► know it's not anything it's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► just be fun so this you know this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► that makes drawing more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► actually that's part of the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► like it's because it's a game and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► think that's part of what makes it fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► is you know oh you know that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► that's not us being and not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► to make good drawing tools that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► so I mostly don't buy that but I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► put that out there and say that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► the goal of this thing is not to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► people draw very well the goal is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► make a fun game but I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► even judge based on the fun factor it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► falls down because especially for tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► nerds and people who use lots of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► and stuff interface inefficiency is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► fun right like game play where they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► barriers in your path and have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► people shoot fireballs at Mario and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► pits in his path and every like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► this is Mhairi level be much easier just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► bottomless chasms if you just get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► them I could just run in a straight line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► but that clearly wouldn't be fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► when you keep ratcheting it back to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► oh now this is just a really bad drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► app and I don't find that fun because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► I've used lots of drawing apps and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► know how you can make this better so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► other aspects are harder to justify I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► haven't talked about the particular ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► there's categories other aspects are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► harder to justify in terms of fun game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► play type thing and those are those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► things that everyone is knows repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► repeated words is the biggest one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► word list from which it chooses seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► be very limited so in the 19th time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► have to draw poop or you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► drop poop it's just easy to draw as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► as you start drawing it the other guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► like all these guys cleared your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► poop I've seen poop like nine times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► before and I've drawn the same word to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► the same person multiple times I drew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► password for somebody twice like within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► a day and a half alright so what lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► you just not pick that word if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► repeated it on both ends it's annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► because you do always want to pick like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4258">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► the three coin word or whatever the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► uh and when you're guessing you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► want to guess it based on the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► I've already had this word so I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► what it probably is even before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► start drawing you just look at the set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► of letters you know like up I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► that is a skateboard or whatever uh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► but that's not a fun factor that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► add to the fun of the game it decreases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► the fun of the game so that is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► and everyone complains about repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► contribute to the fun factor if you load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► up the thing and you don't get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► what the person guessing you're drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► which is part of like taking your turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► you get to see them trying to guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► your word is yeah that's competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► sometimes it just doesn't show it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► like where the hell was that up sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► bug you know any kind of bugs like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► in there are bugs is not as buggies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► worthless friend was and its worst all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► days but it's still got bugs when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► see someone like when you guess the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► successfully it fast forwards the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► their drawing like say you guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► halfway through the drawing you guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► the word successfully says hey you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► correct and then it shows and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► this guy drew for ten more minutes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► here's the final version of the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► and then you get one two and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► disappears and you can never see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► again so my example is I always wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► to show like my wife hey look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► here's the this person's final drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► of whatever isn't it cool or isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► ridiculous or whatever by the time I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► turn my ipod over to face her it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► already gone and there's no way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► back and look at that that seems super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► dumb it's not easy to switch accounts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► a single device if you have like one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► iPad and someone's using it like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► well I want to play my games oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► know it's not this should be like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► switcher on top like the idea that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► is partially due to the fault of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► it's not recognizing the shared nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► of iOS devices but I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► have this thing but like on an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► device like okay these are the apps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► the kids and these are mom's apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► these are dad's apps and god forbid like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► you both want to use Instapaper on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► iPad if you have one shared iPad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► I'm it's like who's logged in since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► we're constantly logging out signing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► everything is just a waste of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► especially for games like this if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► have a single iPad where everyone's have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► drawn the iPad because it's big make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► easy way to say okay now mom's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► do her game now dad's going to do his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► without going back through the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► and entering stuff make a switcher in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► there and the big one the big one this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► kind of falls into the oh it's making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► more difficult category but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► that's not a valid justification is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► terrible because the drawing tools are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► not particularly easy to use and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► stake it with no one do you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► painstakingly erase that bad line by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► trying to match it with some other line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► no one do seems crazy to me like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► doesn't seem like a fringe featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► seems like it should have been in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► on day one night in time I'm multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► levels undo just 1 undo and the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► really annoys me is this this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► iOS bug that haunts me is that when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► battery hits the run 20% it puts up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► Oh 20% battery remaining and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► dialogue will come up like 19 times an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► Axman for some results dismiss it I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► do stuff and it'll come up again will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► come again each time that comes up if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► I'm in the middle of drawing when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► comes up I know that when I tap the ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► button it draws something is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► draw a line from wherever my finger was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► when in a straight line to where I tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► the okay terrible and with no one do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► now have to erase that one and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► was underneath it yes and then redraw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► that in last and so the drawing tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► themselves like the sizes of brushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► they give you it's like you know tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► and then the next one up is way too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► sensitivity but that's not their fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► really although if they really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► go whole hog having a support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► styluses the support pressure with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► Bluetooth or something would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► neat now - oMG pops credit they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► blog post that tried to address all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► these concerns and they say here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► things they have planned for upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► versions they want to be able to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► drawings and Twitter and Facebook what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► the idea of being able to see drawings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► again put drawings into your photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► library undo for your last brushstroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► is prominently featured on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► divided of features that they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► to add more words that's a bullet point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► so that's good better performance and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► bunch of fixes for bugs and stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► it's frustrating to me that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► features don't exist but you can I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► of have some sympathy of like oh so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► make this drawing game you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► the version won out you just want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► the simplest thing that possibly works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► and all of a sudden becomes a wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► popular and then everyone's yelling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► you for not having all the features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► you plan for 1.1 and you thought ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► people use 1.0 and then 20 people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► 1.1 and then like by the 1.5 then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► would be successful but somehow you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► successful 1.0 and everyone's yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► about your application so I do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► sympathy there but I feel like undo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► particular I wouldn't ship the 1.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► without that because it just makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► game frustrating instead of Hart now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► Zynga comes in is the in-app purchase of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► crap of buying more colors buying what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► else can you borrow the bombs that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► eliminate when you're guessing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► person's word you don't have a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► in front of you have a set of letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► that are jumbled you won't use all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► letters that are there but the letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► that make up the word you're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► guess are in that mix and by hitting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► bomb button it deletes a bunch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► letters delete all of them except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► the ones you need I don't even know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► ran into bombs long ago but you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► these things either with it with in-game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► currency and every time you correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► guess something you get one two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► of these little in-game coins but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► can also buy these in-game coins with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► actual real live money through and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► that purchase and then you spend these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► coins like tokens in an arcade to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► more colors and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► in-app purchases cuz there's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► love/hate relationship with these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► people do feel nickeled and dimed buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► in-app purchases but there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► separate things here the feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► being nickeled and dimed like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► individually any individual person may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► say I don't like applications where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► have in app purchases for stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► that because I feel like I'll did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► just buy the game that I gotta buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► now I gotta buy that I gotta buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► extra thing I just want to pay and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► the game right that's one thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► second thing is the actions of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► aggregate and they are opposed to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► other because I think if you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► everybody don't you feel nickeled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► dimed when you have to do a bunch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► that purchase everybody says yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► then if you look at all people not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► one person and say what does in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► developers it's like a money fountain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► makes tons and tons of money so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► all say they hate it but people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► doing it and everyone's like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► not me I would never do that I'm not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► person who does is in that purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► right it's it's the other people but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► you're a company it's very it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► hard not to do something that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► that will produce lots of money because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► the decisions that people make and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► things they say about how they feel are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► - are so opposed in this particular case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► internet purchases work on like basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► pricing psychology like the sunk cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► fallacy like well I already bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► game now spending one more dollar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► the fancy colors I can justify that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► because like well if I don't it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► waste that I even bother buying the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► right instead of just walking away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► more money into it and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► there's a desire to win once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► into that like he did match and words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► with friends I hear words of friends is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► some way for you to buy an advantage too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► that's why a couple people I know stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► playing it when you know when you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► to get that you want to win you like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► need more colors I got I got a I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► have more colors cuz I keep losing to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► friend in this because I can't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► have orange or something I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► seen uh the competitive gets going like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► ah it's a dollar fine and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► frictionless and so easy to do in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► purchase that you'll find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► buying it there's another app I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► actually gonna do a whole section on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► this but didn't want to be unfair to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► them but I'll mention now anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► paper application did you see that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► brand-new paper app yep a Gruber link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► it and it's a great they're unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► electronic version of those notebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► that hipsters carry around like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► really precious beautiful moleskin you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► know it's like I'm in it this is it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► the video shows like if you are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► like an arty person who spends your day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► walking the city looking for interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► scenes and then you sit down and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► sketch the scene with your with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► creativity you are a beautiful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► unique snowflake and all that stuff ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► that's the that's the image they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► going for and I don't want to seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► I'm making fun of hipsters because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► think that's perfectly valid but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► application itself which looks gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► by the way like these these notebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► look awesome and they're customizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► and you know all the drawing tools look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► great it looks like a beautiful website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► beautiful application everything that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► looks awesome but when you get it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► want to paint you have to spend in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► show whatever it is da 99 and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► want to write you have to spend like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► it's it's kind of like opendoc the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► division of opendoc where you buy kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► of a container and then tools you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► additional items only now it's been it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► with in-app purchases one way to looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► at is it saying well we could have sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► your $30 owing out but we'll send you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► sell your one dog drawing app and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► just buy the tools that you need right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► but the other way to look at it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► I was making jokes when it came out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► so you can buy paint and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► buy right I'm like well well of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► when you start they have the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► you have to buy view otherwise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► screen is blank the entire time so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► purchased view and now I can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► paper okay now I'm going to purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► draw and now I can mark the paper I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► going to purchase right and now I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► make words but if you try to draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► detects them and tells you you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► know it sounds like I'm down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► application I think whoever developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► it looks awesome I didn't buy it myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► so I haven't actually tried it but from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► all the videos and everything it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► like a great job doing an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► and also I think the people who buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► well for the most part be very satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► with it because their target audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► hits all their buttons you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► beautifully designed elegant application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► it's fun to use and makes you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► creative and matches something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► already liked in the physical world if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► you like those little notebooks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► cost a bazillion dollars if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► notebook fetish which I shouldn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► fun of because we all have our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► fetishes of things that we like to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► for way too much money having electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► version of that is cool too right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► think this will hit its target audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► but it bothers me that like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► had to go this route that it was I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► know if there was a debate of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► application or should we sell the cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► one and then have the in-app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► and if you're a business I I would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► have trouble of saying here's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► shouldn't do in that purchases because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► of their saying it's a free download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► it's even better like it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► charge money for this or should we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► it be a free download into everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► through in-app purchases and you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► the one hand you're gonna say well make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► it'll make customers feel better like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► the Instapaper velocity of like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► want to buy one thing like you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► want to do in app purchases for fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► because it just just doesn't feel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► principled stand because truth be told I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► think you can make a lot more money by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► basically annoying people by doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► in-app purchases that practice has shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► that the freemium model especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► anything that has that is in remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► game-like the freemium model of give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► away for free or cheap as possible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► then charge for add-ons that makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► tons of money wait like all these online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► multi you know multi user MMORPG games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► role-playing games and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► they used to be I'll give us 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► and you can play World of Warcraft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► there's a monthly fee on top of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► then you know the model and the far-east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► was always or it was the game is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► free or very cheap and then you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► stuff in-game and Western developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► like oh you can't do that we get in 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► bucks for everybody buys this game we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► gonna think we were to give them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► game for you know for hope they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► buy horse armor it's intense you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► that's stupid those guys are suckers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► eventually the Western developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► we're becoming not popular like oh geez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► not a lot of people are playing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► Lord of the Rings Online or Dungeons & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► Dragons online we're like we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► the critical mass and we're the worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► crushed us again and we split all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► millions of dollars making this game uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► you know we gotta do something all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► I guess we'll go free-to-play and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► that okay you can download this for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► other than we'll sell you stuff in-game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► and suddenly their revenue is quadruple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► and then everyone you know notices like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► wait what's that what's that going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► Western developer did that and it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► and so now everybody has figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► that this this works like gangbusters it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► makes you tons of money it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► shame that most of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► consider themselves you know hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► gamers and connoisseurs of games don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► like it and I bet if you even ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► people who are being nickeled and dimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► by this type of thing like you feel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► feel like you're this is a nice thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► do that would say no but they'll say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4978">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► just as they're buying like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► special bomb bird that blows up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► whole thing or buying the bombs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► dying the new colors or buying the bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► to kill things a word with friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► so I think all game developers all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► developers in general are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► strike a balance but Jesus hard to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► away from that money so if you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► can quadruple your revenue and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► guy at the table saying yeah but won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► we feel kind of sleazy and the other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► says quadruple revenue who's gonna win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► that argument you know it's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► luckily Marco does not have a board of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► directors that he has to talk to he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► just got to make a decision for himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► in-app purchase for fonts er everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► gets the spots everybody gets the fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► executive decision no vote needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► taken you know even though he does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► that one employee but it is his wife so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► I think he can persuade her possibly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► you know messes before childbirth maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► after he will lose some some credibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► but it this this is a challenge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► everybody and Draw Something does okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► but this not great I personally will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► something like this and if there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► things I could not do in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► without spending more money I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► do it I would be much happier to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► five dollars more for the game then to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► have to buy colors and have to buy bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► and that's about all that stuff now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► can get bombs without paying a cent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► simply by playing the game but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► pricing structure is set and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► another trick of these games the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► structure is such that you will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► play a long long time to get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► money to do this so you get like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► coins every time you get the hardest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► and the like a new new set of bombs cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► like 400 coins so you're gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► play a hell out of this game or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► plunk down a few bucks and get like 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► coins to begin with right mm-hmm so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► balance of like well you never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► have to pay everything you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► if you spend 8,000 hours playing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► that's that's something that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► agrees it's not good so I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► like this trend towards in-app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► but I don't know what to do about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► because I totally see the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► bucket this is what makes you more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► you know what people say and what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► do to different things and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► way to reconcile that like how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► be a successful company and make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► awesome applications if if this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► way you make money the only sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► silver lining I think is the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► Android model where all the apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► free and they all have ads in them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► the iOS model of most of the time people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► would rather just pay two bucks for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► app and not have the ads in it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► shows that it is possible for for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► the light side to win out even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► seems like only on the Android side no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► one wants to buy anything and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► much more distribution if they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► angry birth was free on Android is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► Angry Birds most popular app in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► entire universe was free on Android with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► ads because they didn't think that he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► get Android people to pay whatever few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► bucks for it whereas on on iOS they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► always had the paid version so iOS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► the white knight in this realm of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► don't know some somehow holding the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► on making people pay for a product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► they enjoy instead of giving them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► free and then trying to suck more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► application and specifically and draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► something I would like to apologize to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► you for not getting Aladdin correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► obviously I do not know how to spell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► word Aladdin I lived I thought there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► were two L's very frustrating well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► saw afterwards I'm sure that it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► that was a good one wasn't it how's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► dream perfectly fine I immediately got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► that it was supposed to be Aladdin I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► first you type lamp you type lamp fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► yeah yeah which is there because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► hadn't you were just watching but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► were clearly more letters than lamp I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► know so I hope that was gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► lamp something lamp or about it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► anyway when I went for Aladdin and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► one letter short and I thought there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► were two elves and there was not another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► L I just moved on to other letters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► could not figure it it's almost comical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► to me how I'm almost immediately it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► - an automatic thing that as as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► the drawing begins you start tapping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► little shuffle of letters some people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► and some people don't occasionally I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► but sometimes I just want to give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► chance if people draw different speeds - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► like when you have the slow drawers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► know they're gonna take a year and a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► before they draw this the words just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► guessing you just like wait like they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► run the grass that drawn the sky during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► trolling you like and Markos troll did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► oh no the drawing he did for me the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► was starfish and he drew an entire beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► scene and incredible detail like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► water and the person laying on the towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► under the umbrella and the sidewalk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► the banana smoothie stand from Arrested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► Development I'm assuming that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► that was and then at the very end drew a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► little star next to the seashore and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► an arrow towards it and that was like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► minutes into this drawing so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► intentional troll but other people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► that unintentionally I can start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► that now I didn't know that was it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► that was a thing it is a thing sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► I do it unintentionally - alright that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► all I haven't draw something I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► I think we get a wrap but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► because your other the will Shipley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► topic yeah that's probably that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► bigger topic it's a great topic oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► astronaut got one more thing to add in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► here we can do it after dark if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► to whatever you'd prefer I think I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► to try squeeze it in here but I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► let's close it in this is it a thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► comfortable converse an uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► conversation that we have to have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► Marco or that someone has to have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► Marco and it could go one of two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► either he already knows everything I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► uncomfortable conversation is geez you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► knew all this already and still your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► your position has not changed or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► didn't know this and it's going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► uncomfortable that you're making him sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and it revolves around his dream car the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► BMW m5 that was discussed many time all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► right I don't know if he knows this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► not but I've known this for months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► months and I think everybody knows this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► but he's never brought it up to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► knowledge I listen to all his shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► maybe I missed it or forgot it but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► has not brought this up and it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► think either he doesn't know it or is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► denial about it this BMW m5 4-door sedan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► high-performance expensive version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► BMW is the ultimate driving machine as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► you all know that's their their slogan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► it's all about the driving experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► the thrill and joy of driving and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► joy of driving involves all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► that kind of gearheads like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► going fast good handling not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► body motion to the wind in your hair if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► it's a convertible the roar of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► everything involved with the driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► experience well the BMW m5 is moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► little more towards the luxury side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► where luxury cars don't want the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► to be getting in so much on you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► cruising on the highway you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► smooth cruising experience you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► want to hear a lot of road noise or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► things slapping against the tire or wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► noise going like that so it's sealed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► very tightly and it Lexus for example is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► a manufacturer that concentrates in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► we want complete isolation I want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► feel like you're in a serene cocoon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► concerned about handling that's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► been there you know there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► things starting with the Oz 400 oh they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► do have sporty cars as well but BMWs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► always been the opposite but BMWs being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► pushed more towards the luxury side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► simply because everybody's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► reduce wind noise road noise vibration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► stuff like that well with the m5 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► platform that's built on BMW has managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► to seal that sucker up so well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► sometimes you can barely hear the engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► and hearing the engine roar is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► high-performance car like people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► know love to drive on top gears will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► this all the time any time you drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► Ferrari through a tunnel you roll down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► the window and you just wail that engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► you just hear echoing off the walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► that's part of the experience of driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► well the m5 is so well sealed up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► even when you're just like flooring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► it sounds kind of distant like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► too much isolation you can't get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► engine sound so what BMW has done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► they play engine noises over the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► stereo in response to what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► with the throttle they don't and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► compartment playing you know relaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► the sound which would be bad enough so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► you're saying it this is it's not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► engine that you're hearing it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► it's a pre-recorded engine it they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► a series of pre-recorded engine samples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► that they play in through the car stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► in in response to you using your pedal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and I don't know how any self-respecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► easiest can a wouldn't know this by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► because it's been in all the the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► press of car magazines for months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► months and months and be how do you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► do you square that with the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► ultimate driving machine and performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► cars to know that what you're hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► are pre-recorded samples of an engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► that they're mixing the other data based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► on throttle position and all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► types of things I just don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► anybody who's having kids would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► would even consider that vehicle it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► it just a what what mindset well it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► enough room for so what lots of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► have enough room and and it's it's a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► car drive the performance is great and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► thought who cares though well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► if you're a car guy you care and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► thought of it because I saw this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► YouTube video of someone showing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► let's compare the engine note of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► recording it outside the cars behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► them where the exhaust is and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► made me think again like when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► that car you're gonna be hearing an mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► recorded in Stuttgart and they're mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► you know that's so Marco I'm sorry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► break this news to you if you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► know and if you didn't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► how you can continue to put that car as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► your your pinnacle car that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► probably not going to buy anyway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► it's very expensive and too impractical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► but really okay just he'll get it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► pre-recorded engine sounds this I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► that's just it's crazy I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► think of a good analogy I spent a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► time don't think a good analogy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► could not come up with one I for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► reason I kept going back to like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► like adding a laugh tag to Arrested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► Development but that's only probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► only because Marco did that supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► rested development reference and whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► troll drawing to me and draw something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► but whatever the equivalent is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► it's like playing pre-recorded engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► sounds in a BMW that's my analogy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► you and elicit it eats an analogy before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► people who are listening to this who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► BMW aficionados email me I used to own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► BMW I test drove I think 20 or 25 cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► before I bought it I you know ordered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► custom ordered it so it was built just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► for me ah I've been in that place and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► totally get I was not the car enthusiast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► John that you are and I never could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► been but I'd sure did love that car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► and I look back if I could go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► time and just tell myself like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► this is going to cost you a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► and a lot of time in the dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► everything else and like helping me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► understand that that it didn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► what it was all about was like your kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► and family and like having fun and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► I wish I could go back in time and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► detail D get that money back but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► you think like that's an appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► diversion for that time in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► what you know what yes it was it was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► sure but the amount of stress that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► car caused me of like not wanting to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► it scratched always wanted getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► washed and getting the RIC tires for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► and and the money that it costs to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► replace the brakes and the time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► cost of one tire on that car I could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► my current vehicles all four tires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► the last twice as long - and I just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► I have driving I was spending a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► and this is the other thing this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► I justified it to myself at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► John I was in that car a lot I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► long commute so I wanted to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► wonderful little cocoon for myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► because there were no podcasts for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► for me to just didn't enjoy in and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► that but now if I can load all my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► and my whole family and all the crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► that comes along with them and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► somewhere it comfortably and safely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► not spend too much money on gas like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► that's all it's really about all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► are the little details that that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► you know think about in life like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► that just seems to fall away when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► there and your kids are smiling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► doesn't nothing else seems to matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► yeah it's true when I on the m5 by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► way I want to clarify in case into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► someone was thinking of setting me free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► m5 and yeah well you will accept one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► right the m5 is an awesome car the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► problem with it it's not this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► make the m5 a bad car it's just a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► decision like this what's a what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► solution to this problem my solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► would be to not play pre-recorded engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► sounds in the car can you disable here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► okay so here's something I remember from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► from my BMW days if the you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► customize a lot of the behavior for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► example when you put the car into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► you park what should happen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► should should the doors unlock should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► just the driver's side door unlock like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► you can completely customize all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► maybe this is oh you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► driving away if you reach five miles an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► hour then the door should automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► lock no I want it to happen at 10 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► an hour they can program that for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► maybe this is something you can simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► say turn that off I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► prominent switch turning off I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► think the whole idea like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► they even suggested doing that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► followed through with it just strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► is wrongheaded and like a it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► the car manufacturer equivalent of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► something's like how does that even come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► out I think is actually just a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► whatever active blah blah blah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► I guarantee they'll be a way to turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► there always is I'm just saying like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► know this is a symptom of something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► and anytime you see someone at m5 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► know the car nerds are going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► how those pre-recorded engine sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► like even if you turned it off like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► a mark of shame it's like a scarlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► letter that you bought it can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► imagine like you're gonna buy Ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► and say well your sorority listen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► engine well actually it's pre-recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► it you can not hear the entire press is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► strapped to the engine you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► it's and that's like where BMW has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► decide what it is I can't even believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► this happened like the first time I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► it I hope they were joking surely they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► won't do this and then sure enough the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► cars are shipping and it actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► this this is a terrible mistake on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► bangl levels i'm i pronouncing his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► correctly car people in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► the BMW stylist who took over styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► incredibly hideous cars that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► hated and everyone complained about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► this is I think a mistake on that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► where you just don't do this it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► not it's not appropriate so feel free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► send me that in five it is fantastic car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► I actually like how it looks - but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► pre-recorded engines sounds snow it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► good so that was it that was my mark oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► that's it uncomfortable conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► with Marco and I hope this doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► that he won't give me a ride in his m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► course when he drives it across country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► safe cars that was the one thing I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► good car to have for that reason it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► true better be safe for what you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► only exactly I say if you have the means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► that how they recommended here both that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► what movie was that can you get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► melon I can't it it is uh I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► believe I can't believe that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► know I have many things in my head from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► the 80s but not always associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► metadata this is this is a definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► movie for our generation of people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► are Gator yes a fair in villa rent are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► you reading the chat room or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► know my friend B to beat the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► to it I am it sits in the scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► they are - speaking of Ferraris they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► taking the Cameron's Ferrari out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► this is after he's you know he's driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► and he's talking about how wonderful the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► car is and if you have the means I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► highly recommended it's true so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► true BMW as well but the key is if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► have the means and part of your I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► part of your paranoia about parking far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► away and getting scratched is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► you weren't a billionaire if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► billionaire I think your your concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► about scratches on your BMW would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► greatly diminished I certainly agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► with you and that was the thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► I I did I knew I knew that anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► would happen with that car from just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► from having a you know before that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► having a Volkswagen that which we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► like my wife is driving it and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► I don't even want to say rear-ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► because that implies any kind of speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► at all they were in a parking lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► and I think they were going like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► about a mile an hour and just gently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► bumped the back of the car almost didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► notice it but then looked at it and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► that that was you know that was $1,200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► worth of damage for you know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► minor like that forget what happens in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► BMW let me forget it just simply forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► it you have to have you have to have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► much spare cash just it just to keep one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► of those things going and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► thing as you look at the and this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► was fooled into this because I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► you look at the cost of the car and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► say well it's not that much more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► you know and an Acura it's not it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► isn't the 3-series that I had it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► hold that much that much more and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► look at any sell that for what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► getting the comfort to safety the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► the wonderful experience of driving it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► not that much more but it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► expensive all along the way and my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► focus over the years has been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► simplify my life and eliminate things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► and get one thing that's going to last a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► very very long time with the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► amount of maintenance the least amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► of care the least amount of concern and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► you know what last week our van sum is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► something happen is someone brushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► again you know like they were backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► out and you could see where they brushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► against like the bumper and left a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► little bit of their paint there left a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► little bit of paint it didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► scratch it but it was just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► rubbing and paint my wife comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► like something happened in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► that's all right I'll I'll see you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► get out and you know I took we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► what is a new finish or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► thing is a little orange now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► there's that there's like it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► version haven't you put that on a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► cloth wipe it it's gone it's good as new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► Oh is there scratch that maybe no we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► not gonna stress out about I got better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► things to do you know and and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► kind of like that had been to be and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► my god how could you let that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► while I was in the store with oh my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► what are we gonna do alright I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► it to the thing we'll get an estimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► you know because you want to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► car perfect you can't drive your BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► around with a scratch on it you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► that with minivan it's gotta scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► scare ya all our cars are beat to hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► well you also you also live up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► Northeast which is that's normal and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► don't want to impugn the person who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► caused many of these things so I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► not name this person but it is not me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► then nobody else in you and your kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► are not of Drive sure honey she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► listen this show yes but but yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► the thing like you know I'm I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► into cars and I read all these car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► magazines and have my whole life but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► not a millionaire like Marco so what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► actually drive is a 2002 Honda Civic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► with many many scratches and dents on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► the bumpers all of which I never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► considered repairing that's right why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► you know like those plastic bumpers one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► piece of plastic and it's like even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► the Honda Civic it's like 500 bucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► the piece of pie flavored install it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► is having a scratching you remember I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► going with the scratch my bumper every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► time and the end result of that after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► decade of driving is tremendously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► scratched bumpers yeah we've got my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► my car my my wonderful pilot when in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► of our first weeks here in Austin we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► were driving somewhere and somebody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► they improperly actually we were driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► straight they didn't turn correctly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► went and they were trying to get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► a bus and kind of brushed against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► side of our car that it has you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► there's there some little indentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► dent crumpled mark thing on the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► the car land so what are you gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► car door door opens you get that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► gonna get the door panel fixed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► and what are you getting out of it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► nice you're looking door like functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► thing is one thing a pop a tire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► gotta get a fix yeah who's the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► anymore the engine has a problem that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► going to cause it to die you have to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► it even if it costs a lot because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► want the engine to keep working but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► cosmetic damage is repairing cosmetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► damages they realm of people with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► disposable income than I have and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► know what else if you lease if you lease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► the car a lot of people listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► show lease it is not they charge you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► that stuff oh yeah oh you've got to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► you better hope the you and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► carry full full coverage which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► should probably do anyway but you you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► got it and then you get a going you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► could be inconvenience because you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► to go and drive out to the auto repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► the the body repair shop those body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► shops are not located in nice places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► near the shopping mall so you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► know go to Barnes & Noble while you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► it's it's in like the whatever the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► part of town even if you think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► don't have a bad part of town where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► live that's where you'll have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► the body shop and you'll go to impugn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► the reputation of body shop owners know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► the owners are probably nice people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► just they just have to they just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► locate their things way out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► middle of nowhere behind that the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► iron gates so you go there and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► sit down you wait and a guy comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► and then he has to write up the estimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6238">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► the estimate takes forever and it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► out as twice as high and you say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► I'm paying this out of pocket oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► let me do another estimate for you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► and they come what do you want do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► want real parts or do an aftermarket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► parts or what are aftermarket parts well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► they're basically piece-of-crap parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► that are just like the originals but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► spray-paint them here and they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► perfectly match but we'll paint other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► parts of your car to make the match and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► you better even better not like we'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► through a regular car wash because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► paint will come off but no no it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► fine and then you have that and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► back of your mind you know that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► going to be as good but you go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► aftermarket parts because they're less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► than half as much as the regular parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► so of course you go with them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► can get them much much sooner and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► insurance company gets you a loaner car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► maybe they get you a rental car which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► going to suck and it's not going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► the car seat in it and it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► fit right and you're not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► able to do all the things you normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► do and then they're going to take two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► three times as long to get the repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► actually done on your car then then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► ever thought it would possibly take and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► the insurance money isn't going to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► everything because see when they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► that bumper off they found underneath it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► there was more damage and they can try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► to send it back to the insurance but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► you do that it's going to take an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► week so do you just want us to do it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► yeah okay fine we'll do it I'll pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► difference then they do it it comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► it looks pretty good but now the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► creaks and it didn't used to creak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► you know you have your car back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► you've lost you know weeks and hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► hours of your time and you've driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► around a crappy car or you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► leave the dent well you can't leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► down on a BMW Canyon I probably could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► not I wouldn't be able to I never was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► able to a Ferrari maybe not but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► willing to be tested like I say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► the rule for driving is like the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► for peas and potatoes on child's play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► which what is the rush the cars don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► touch all right this thing if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► about this if you dwell on this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► while it really is mind boggling that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► have thousands and millions of metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► machines hurtling through our streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► and pretty much all the time would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► don't touch it's like the unwritten law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► of driving everywhere except for maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► sorry Indian listeners they think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► the term is Native American now down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► valga the cars don't touch they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► touch each other no touching of the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► anywhere at any time no touching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► when they do touch it's it's a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► it's an accident don't you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► like an invisible barrier that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► maintain in our minds like no touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► cars no touching and that's the rule I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► try to live by and driving cars no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► touching this if you don't touch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► repair story that you just went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► there yeah but of course if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► billionaire you just throw that car when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► you buy brand new one right or you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► your people take it for you and you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► one of your several other cars that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► appropriately detailed we've morphed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► this into an after dark though yes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► anyway we will let this go now people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► can follow John siracusa on Twitter s I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► on twitter i'm dan benjamin on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► this has been hypercritical share your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► thoughts and comments with john go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► 5x5 TV slash contact and to please rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► the show in itunes that we don't ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► that a lot but it really does help this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► show it helps new people find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► and that means more sponsors which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► we can keep doing the show so thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplUn6GM/6441">TS</a>]