Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► this is hypercritical weekly talkshow [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► the world of apple introduces nothing is [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► so perfect that it can't be complained [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► about by my co-host John siracusa today [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► is Friday [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► it's March 23rd 2012 this is episode [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► number 60 we'd like to say thanks to our [TS]

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00:00:32 ◼   ► guise of bare-bones tell me more about [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► them as the show continues hello John [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► siracusa oh damn Enderman how's your day [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► going today it's hot hot day yeah [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► supposed to be in the mid 70s today Wow [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► oh how you stand it yep gonna have a [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► short show today that's what's gonna [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► happen what do you think of that well [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► I'll believe it when I believe it yeah [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► me too [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► that's the plan raiveer some follow up [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► absolutely [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► okay this show is mostly follow up this [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► one and one small topic at the end do [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► you feel like that you will clear out [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► all of the follow up and you'll be able [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► to start fresh now because they keep [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► sending more every week I see is that [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► the problem with if no one ever responds [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► the show with emails or tweets or [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► whatever then there'll be no follow up [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► so in a way it's it's very much a user [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► driven show it's a responsive show [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► responsive and at least at least the [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► first half of each one is because what [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► they're responding to is usually not [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► follow up from the previous show it's [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► whatever I talked about whatever new [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► stuff I talked about alright first bit [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► is about I'm the iOS version of iPhoto I [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► talked about how the app was little the [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► UI of the app was a little inscrutable [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► to me and I couldn't quite figure out [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► how to do everything and one of the [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► things I talked about was my inability [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► to discover that you could take the [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► thumbnails and change them from one side [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► to the other I couldn't figure out what [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► gesture did that and someone in amnon on [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► Twitter said that the only way that you [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► can drag the thing for one side to the [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► other is [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► to grab the little titlebar handle thing [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► on the thumbnails and move it and you [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► know that's not a difficult gesture why [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► was I not grasping that and so I looked [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► at it and he's right and the reason I [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► was confused by it was that when I saw [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► the video it looked just like this big [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► sweeping gesture so I just make this [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► grand sweeping gesture with my finger [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► and it would work sometimes because if [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► you start the drag in the little handle [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► area but then quickly leave it it still [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► works [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► so I was fooling myself into thinking [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► there was a complicated gesture to do [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► this when in reality is a very [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► constrained gesture you have to start in [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► a little grippy area after that you can [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► leave it I guess so part of the iOS [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► thing is without mouse cursor to see in [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► a demonstration is not only clear what [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► the person is doing to the iOS [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► application that's why I kind of like [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► those screencasts where they have the [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► little circle that shows where the [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► person's finger is and like this little [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► I know what you call it little rings go [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► out from it but you can see with when [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► they tap with their finger or something [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► those are very useful so thanks I am [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► known for that direction [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► and speaking of iOS for iPhone mere [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► minutes before the show began today [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► steven frank co-founder of panic made [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► two tweets he said this is Saturn Oh [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► who's talking - he's talking to the [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► Twitterverse in general he says I [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► thought you were exaggerating but iPhoto [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► for iOS really is bizarre the cloud [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► slider amuses me though I have no idea [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► what it does I think he's referring to [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► some of those little slider controls [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► there it has like a cloud background and [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► you slide the little cloud back and [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► forth on this weird colored field but [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► it's interesting looking but he has no [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► idea what it does and then he followed [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► that up right after a couple seconds [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► later saying but whenever I criticize [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► weird I owe s you why there's always a [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► nagging concern that maybe I'm just too [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► old and everyone else understands [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► immediately I don't know is that the [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► case I seen a lot of people puzzled by [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► the iPhone or iOS UI upon first seeing [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► it and I think Apple acknowledges that [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► with the with the prominent help and [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► tool tips I can't think of another Apple [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► iOS app I've seen that has a button that [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► springs up little yellow explanations of [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► what everything on the screen does now [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► they didn't have to do that for mail or [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► Safari or [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► any of the other out even even iMovie [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► design but we have that I don't know I [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► haven't played with it so I don't think [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► it's just me and Steven and the other [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► old people I think that it really is a [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► weird UI but again I don't think that's [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► necessarily bad it's just [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► there's a steeper learning curve I think [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► once you get used to it and know what [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► everything does it will be okay [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► Connor Porter says that I have a total [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► misunderstanding of a smart cover when I [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► was discussing I don't know which [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► particular here's what he says is in a [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► tweet so it's compressed removed smart [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► cover fold into a triangle pinch metal [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► bar between fingers and wipe screen have [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► you ever have you ever heard of this or [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► done it yourself I have not done I've [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► never heard of this I've never heard of [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► anyone doing it but as soon as I started [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► googling around sure enough you can find [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► lots of people taking their smart cover [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► off folding into a triangle shape using [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► the metal magnetic spine thing to hold [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► it and using it like a like a squeegee [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► or a chamois to zoom out a chamois a [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► challenge with Shannon it was like a [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► claw yeah it absorbs the liquid from [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► after you dry your car and you're like a [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► squeegee though because a chemise uh you [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► know it's like a squeegee but I think [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► it's like a chamois squeegee pushes the [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► water off of a flat surface the chamois [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► absorbs the liquid and I think this [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► thing is absorbing your finger grease [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► and just microfiber terrible yeah so I [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► responded that I thought that was [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► ridiculous that you would remove your [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► cover and fashioned it into a cleaning [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► device and use it to wipe your screen [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► down that's how you get rid of lines do [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► you find that there you're creating a [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► lot of smudging on the screen is this a [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► problem for you or for people do you [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► think I don't think it's a problem in [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► general because first of all you've seen [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► like the general population if you [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► divide the population into screen [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► touches and on screen touches this is [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► before touch space devices and I think [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► there are more screen touches than on [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► screen touches yeah the picky geeks like [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► us didn't want people touching our [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► computer monitors but if you just went [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► through the average office and looked at [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► all the computer screens their cover [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► with fingerprints so even screens that [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► you didn't have to touch people had no [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► problem touching and smudging up now [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► that you were supposed to touch the [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► screens I I rarely see people [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► complaining about it and it doesn't [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► bother me that much on the iPad it [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► bothers me more on the iPod touch and I [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► don't know why maybe it's because like I [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► hold it closer to my face and I can and [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► I catch more of it on an angle or [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► whatever or maybe maybe there's a Smart [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► Cover mostly keeping the screen clean [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► people's fingers produce different [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► amounts of oils and different types of [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► oils so I think it all comes down to [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► who's using it and then what their [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► tolerances for smudges but in general I [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► don't see this as a problem and should [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► you know how much press any possible [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► problem with any of Apple's iOS devices [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► gets so surely if this was actually a [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► concern someone would have written a [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► sensational story about it Apple's iOS [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► device is rendered useless by finger [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► spoo I don't think that is the headline [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► that I've seen so I think it just [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► doesn't bother people Chris Porter also [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► says that he agrees with me that the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► hinges the little little hinges on the [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► Smart Cover can crack glass because his [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► dad did that ooh so that's bad and the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► aluminum does get scratched I knew that [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► because I've done that all right well [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► mark booth is the stand-in for the [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► ongoing angst over the iPad name you [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► would think this would die but no I [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► continue to get lots of feedback about [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► it and I put him as a stand-in because [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► he covers all the bases I'll cover them [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► ah um I read the wrong name that's not [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► what Marc booths problem is rewind reset [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► okay Marc booth wrote a blog post about [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► the iPad particularly about the Smart [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► Cover and he discovered that his a smart [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► cover or some smart covers that were [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► purchased before the introduction of the [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► iPad the new iPad don't work the right [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► way with the new iPad because they don't [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► do the wake-sleep thing correctly and so [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► he investigated this and found that some [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► iPad 2 customers were having issues with [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► their iPads entering sleep mode when [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► they flipped the cover around to the [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► back like they're opening the smart [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► cover and just wrapping around to the [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► back and the thing would go back to [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► sleep and that was because the theory [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► goes that the magnets in the smart cover [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► were like sort of reaching around and [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► activating the little sleep magnet [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► trigger that's on the front of the iPad [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► so sometime in 2011 sometime last year [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► Apple changed all its smart covers and [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► change the polarity of the magnets that [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► make the thing go to sleep so that when [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► it's wrapped around on the back it has [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► less of a chance of activating it and [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► the iPad 3 apparently is sensitive to [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► that polarity [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► if you have one of the old Smart Covers [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► that doesn't have the reverse polarity [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► magnet in that particular thing it won't [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► put the thing to sleep and wake it up so [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► what he did was ripped open his Smart [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► Cover and flipped around the magnet [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► thing so it's upside-down in that last [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► panel to confirm his hypothesis that [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► reversing the polarity of the magnitude [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► works you thought reversing the polarity [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► was something I only did on Star Trek [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► but here's an actual legitimate use of [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► reversing the polarity that actually [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► solved the problem so I put a link to [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► his blog post in the show notes and he [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► is not the one who complained about the [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► name but we will get to that later in [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► the follow up let me read what these [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► people say before I read their name so [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► Robert Mooney was the first person to [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► tell me that the Apple TV has a feature [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► that allows it to learn a different [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► remote I blast sure I complained a lot [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► about the Apple TV remote and we'll have [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► more on that later in the follow up but [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► he was the very first person to respond [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► to me by Twitter that if I go in to [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► Settings General remotes learn remote [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► there's a really cool interface where [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► you get the different functions of the [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► remote like up down left right and [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► select you go through them one at a time [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► and you basically point the remote that [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► you want to use and it says please press [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► the button that you would like to be up [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► so you hold down the button that's [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► supposed to be up in a little progress [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► bar fills then it goes to the next thing [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► says press the button that you want to [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► be down so you hold the down button the [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► progress bar fails so what I did was I [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► pulled out one of my many old TiVo [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► remotes and because I wanted to use that [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► to control the Apple TV and I just set [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► it up to use the Apple TV that it has a [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► five-way thing so I used up down left [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► right and select and as another screen [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► for a setting what do you want to be [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► fast-forward rewind skip forward skip [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► backwards stop play pause the only one [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► was stopped because it's not really a [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► stop button on the TiVo remote there's [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► just a pause so that worked great and it [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► allowed me to take my take the Apple TV [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► remote out of the room and not have to [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► have it there at all and not have to [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► worry about all the things that I didn't [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► like about it the only wrinkle what my [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► setup was that I actually configured the [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► same TiVo remote two times because I [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► wasn't I couldn't decide which button I [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► wanted to use as the Menu button on the [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► Apple TV remote the menu button is like [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► down into the left from from the center [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► of the the 5y pad back into the left [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► down into the left oh I see and there is [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► a button down into the left on the TiVo [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► remote [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► it's the aspect button I think and I [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► said one I just use that once then it's [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► like muscle memory for like where the [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► thing is on both remotes but but the [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► button that I tend to use to go back on [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► the TiVo remote is the TiVo button the [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► very top center button so I wanted to [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► program both of them to do menu and I [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► had to set up the same remote twice to [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► do that because you go through the setup [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► once and pick one of the buttons then go [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► through the whole setup again a second [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► time with the exact same remote but [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► simply make a different choice for the [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► menu button so now I have my TiVo remote [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► working with my Apple TV and two [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► possible buttons I can use to go back [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► the only thing I had to do is label this [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► remote so it's distinguishable from the [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► actual TiVo remote by the people who are [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► how did you label it my wife has a label [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► maker thing I just wrote Apple TV on a [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► little label and stuck it on it so the [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► kids can tell the difference the adults [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► could tell because the that there are [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► different buttons on the two TV remotes [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► the one for the premiere has like the [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► colored buttons and this is an old one [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► from the terminal TiVo HD and it doesn't [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► have the colored buttons umm the only [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► tricky part for the TiVo thing and I [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► already went through this so I didn't [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► have to relearn it is of course I have a [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► TiVo sitting in front of the TV and in [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► general any TiVo remote will control any [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► TiVo so first thing I had to do was [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► convince one of my spare TiVo remotes [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► not to are convinced my tebow not to [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► accept signals from this TiVo remote and [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► if you google for that there's this [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► crazy procedure that is very confusing [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► and the most most confusing thing is [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► that when you're on the screen there's [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► like the the TiVo information screen [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► when you're on that screen almost [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► anything you do with any TiVo remote [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► will tell the TiVo oh I better listen to [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► this one and I guess that's so people [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► don't lock themselves out of their TiVo [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► like if you if you accidentally do [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► something with TiVo remote and then [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► you've convinced your TiVo not to listen [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► to it how do you convince it to start [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► listening to it again like you have no [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► way to input this there's not many [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► buttons on the front of the thing so [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► that screen is it errors on the side of [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► not locking you out so if you touch a [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► TiVo remote at all the T that the TiVo [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► goes oh I better listen to that remote [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► so you really have to follow this [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► regimented procedure of like set the [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► number on this thing but this thing by [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► blocking you you know don't allow the IR [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► to go out shove the thing behind the [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► couch cushion and do the buttons but [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► then you know so it can be done and I [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► encourage everyone to Google around for [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► how to do that TiVo site has [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► instructions your TiVo manual itself has [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► instructions but [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► it is possible to configure a TiVo [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► remote not to control one or more TiVo's [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► actually if you have a remote that has a [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► little switch on it is like a one-two [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► switch you can use the same TV remote to [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► control two different things but believe [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► it or not the Premier Li remote does not [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► have a switch on it so I had to actually [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► have to TiVo remotes down here so [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► finally here we are [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► James Scout yadi he's the one who I'm [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► using as my standing for complaining [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► about iPad numbers a lot a lot of people [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► have the complaint that they think this [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► works for Macs like iMac doesn't have a [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► number at the end of it or whatever [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► because they don't sell multiple [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► generations of hardware alongside each [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► other so the model that's currently on [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► sale is always the new one by definition [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► now I kept trying to look this up and it [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► was difficult to tell from that I was [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► looking it up on like these you know [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► every Mac comm or low end Mac comm and [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► the Mac tracker application but my [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► memory is that they sold the white [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► MacBook alongside the aluminum MacBook [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► for some period of time and they were [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► both called MacBook and they would call [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► one of them white or whatever is that [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► your recollection as well that's mine as [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► well but they were different products [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► they were and they were all in the [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► MacBook family but they were they were [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► separate versions it wasn't like one was [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► old one was new although one might have [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► been older and newer [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► they were separate right but so I'm not [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► I'm not disagreeing with you I'm [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► agreeing with uh [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► yeah it's hard to say like it well the [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► thing is since they're so visually [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► different and since you could say well [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► like that one's just a white one you [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► know that what say the iPad 4 comes out [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► it looks exactly like the iPad 3 people [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► would say well that's different because [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► the white MacBook it's made of a [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► different material ones plastic and one [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► is metal so it was clear to tell [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► difference even though I think they're [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► both they both were called MacBook and [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► then maybe they had some stuff in [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► parenthesis I don't know it's it's a [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► it's a tough call on whether it's the [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► same situation or not and so he [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► continues this isn't the case with the [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► OTT with iPads or iPhones where they [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► keep the previous generation around the [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► lower price points and so they've done [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► this with three generations but you can [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► get a 3GS now a four and a 4s for [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► example with the phones [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► how will they differentiate next year's [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► new iPad from today's that's a a common [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► refrain from everybody [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► and how will they differentiate if they [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► have three models say they keep selling [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► the two then they keep selling the three [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► and then they sell before so you've got [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► one call two and then one call the iPad [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► one called iPad many people have pointed [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► out how this is unprecedented in many [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► other things not just Apple's hardware [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► but also cars and stuff cars is a little [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► bit fuzzier because when they make a new [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► platform like we talked about last time [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► with the new BMW 3-series platform what [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► they do with the 911 or whatever the [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► Porsche 911 they don't immediately don't [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► always immediately put every single car [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► onto the new platform so for example on [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► the BMW 3-series they make the 3-series [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► sedan they make the 3-series coupe they [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► make the m3 which is a sporty er version [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► they make it convertible and they also [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► make a convertible m3 and when the new [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► platform comes out say oh that you know [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► the f30 BMW 3-series is out you can't [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► run out and get a convertible at m3 [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► version of that car [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► they sort of dole them out so the first [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► thing that comes out as the four-door [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► sedan and then maybe the coupe and then [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► the m3 after that and and same thing [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► with the 911s you can't always get the [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► 911 turbo immediately when the new 911s [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► go on sale and so then you have a period [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► of time where if you were to go into a [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► BMW dealership they would say hot you [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► might say I'm interested in a small [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► convertible I said well here we have the [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► BMW 3-series convertible and you would [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► buy it and they would sell it to you [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► even though then it's not based on the [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► new 3-series platform because they [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► simply haven't come out with a [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► convertible version of that yet I don't [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► think they stopped making those and I [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► don't think they just say all sell our [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► old stock I think they continue to [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► manufacture the old 90 platform 3-series [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► convertibles I'm not sure someone who [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► knows more about BMWs can tell me but [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► certainly I do know that when they Rev [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► the platform which is sort of like they [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► did with the iPad 3 you know when it's [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► got a new screen and your CPU or you [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► know new GPU and the CPU more RAM all [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► that when they rev the platform for cars [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► they don't always rev the platform [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► across the entire board so there's some [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► period of time where old and new mix [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► together ah but with all these concerns [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► not only people tend water they can do [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► how are they going to differentiate I [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► still go back to my practical [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► considerations that I talked about last [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► time and the two practical [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► considerations that I haven't heard [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► anyone can test but few people actually [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► bring up [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► in their complaints about the name is [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► will this decrease sales and will this [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► decrease customer satisfaction and I [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► still come down and saying no I don't [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► think it will decrease sales if you want [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► an iPad you get an area an iPad will [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► decrease customer satisfaction any [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► confusion that comes from this I don't [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► think will make people say I don't like [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► to buy Apple products because it's so [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► confusing I think this will get sorted [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► out in the store in the Apple Store and [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► it will be very clear which ones they're [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► buying and I don't think anyone will [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► come away accidently buying the wrong [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► model and be disappointed by being [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► disappointed but then in fact I think if [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► someone really didn't knows totally [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► clueless and bought themselves an iPad 2 [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► now they would be completely satisfied [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► with it they would have no idea what [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► they're missing with the iPad 3 now [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► instead they know nothing about Apple [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► products and have no idea I just don't [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► think that this naming issue will hurt [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► them in sales or satisfaction I think it [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► helps them in the realm of perception [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► and in aligning their products without [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► having to worry about numbers you know [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► trying to make it more like the iMac for [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► example so people are free to disagree [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► and we will see when I guess next year [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► when the next iPad comes out depending [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► on what they name it if they were all [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► right and I was wrong on this this [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► person's name is Jay a and n is but [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► their German would you go with the [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► honest on that Yan egg with Yan name [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► with the G at the end do you speak [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► German is that what you know there's no [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► I I'm just guessing all right well Jay a [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► and n is kuchar's [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► is one of the many Germans to point out [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► that in Germany things are different yes [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► of course Urmi things are different and [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► their people the common people really do [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► know the the platforms of the carbon [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► many people bro the same example the [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► Volkswagen Golf everybody knows if it's [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► a golf two golf three golf court or golf [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► five and those aren't those aren't model [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► years those are generations so the golf [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► three will be out for a few years in the [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► hub like you know several different [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► years about think is that people around [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► there know what the platforms are of [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► their cars [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► Marcus henshin says exactly the same [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► thing the golf L he uses Roman numerals [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► golf one two and three Fujio models [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► there was an actual model number like [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► 205 206 207 and 208 so apparently in [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► Europe especially in countries where the [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► I'd imagine germinates because the car [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► makers that are in Germany are closely [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► tied with the national identity you've [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► got [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► volkswagen and BMW and Mercedes and I [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► think there's much more awareness of car [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► models in that country because it's a [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► smaller country and those car color car [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► companies are so much larger you know [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► those are worldwide brands that [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► everybody knows about that are a point [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► of pride our is in the US I guess I [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► don't think people knew what platform [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► you know they didn't know about the kei [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► cars and what platforms are underlying [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► forwards or Chevy's and stuff like that [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► maybe it's just because Americans always [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► expect to be at the top of everything [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► and it's not that part and when we were [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► the biggest car maker in the world until [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► all of a sudden we aren't and then it's [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► important so as always things are [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► different outside the US I talked about [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► in my Apple TV the last show my [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► confusion at the menu that was letting [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► me pick different kinds of HDMI output [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► and I didn't quite know what Auto meant [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► and what RGB Heineman why RGB low meant [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► but I also talked about this ycbcr [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► output and I'd said that I looked that [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► up somewhere and it was a way a [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► technique of compression where you'd [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► send the luminance but then send the the [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► color channels in a compressed fashion [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► because they weren't as important so [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► Alex trained writes in to say that my [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► implication that this might be a lower [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► quality source in RGB is untrue because [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► in general they're they're broadcast in [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► that same format actually they're [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► broadcast and WA Y UV which is similar [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► to Y C BC are the same anyway so if [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► they're broadcast in that format if you [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► were to straight through displayed in [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► that format you're not losing any [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► particular quality so that's not [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► necessarily wrong or only used for old [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► CRTs as I suggested in the last show [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► Chris Herbert made a good attempt to [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► explain it to me he tried to explain in [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► a tweet I can I suggested as I as I do [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► many times the people who send me things [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► in tweets I say write a blog post about [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► it I'll link it so he did write a blog [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► post about it and I linked it in the [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► show notes so his attempt to explain [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► this and his explanation was the first [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► one that started to make sense to me [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► about what the RGB high and low might be [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► so here's the important distinction on [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► computers total black is represented by [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► the value zero and total white is to [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► fifty-five so that's an 8-bit range for [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► going completely black boolie white or [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► you know completely red to get coolie on [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► red so you've got RGB values and each [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► one of them has value from 0 to 255 the [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► full 8-bit range is used for each [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► component but on television and in [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► digital video in general and I did not [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► know this black is 16 and white is 235 [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► did you notice I did not know that this [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► is news to me so the space above and [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► below these levels is what they call [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► headroom which is necessary when TVs [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► were analog and didn't respond well to [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► hard clipping at the bottom and top ends [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► of the video signal I'm reading from his [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► email here [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► some people even argue that this [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► Headroom is still useful even today even [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► for today's digital televisions and [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► there is in fact some additional picture [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► information in the wider than white [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► portion of the signal particularly when [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► showing very bright things like clouds [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► white shirts etc so he doesn't know for [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► sure what Apple is calling RGB high [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► analogy below but he's guessing that the [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► correct setting for most TVs will be to [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► use the standard video color space which [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► is at 16 to 235 which is likely he [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► thinks this is likely what Apple is [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► calling RGB high as this is what video [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► content is encoded with and what [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► properly designed televisions are [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► expecting the RGB low mode is expanding [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► the 16 to 235 expanding that into 0 to [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► 255 range that a computer monitor might [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► expect so for an example so a computer [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► monitor expects 0 255 expects 0 to be [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► black doesn't expect 16 16 to be black [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► so if you were to send if you were to [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► send 0 to 255 to your television set one [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► of two things can happen right first may [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► be that your television always expects a [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► 16 to 235 signal and it will just [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► discard all the data below 16 and all [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► the data above to 35 and then everything [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► will be all washed out because nothing [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► will be completely black because all [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► your complete blacks are at 0 and the TV [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► just discarded them because it discards [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► everything below 16 and you'll lose [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► stuff on the high end so this will have [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► a very negative impact on picture [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► quality you don't want this the second [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► is that your television will realize [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► it's receiving a 0 to 55 PC style signal [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► and will just readjust itself in which [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► case everything should be fine you might [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► see some kind of gradient banding if [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► your television does a bad job of taking [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► that range and changing it back to what [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► it expects or whatever so [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► really what this comes down to is and uh [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► all right here's another person written [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► to tell me that a dance termer and tell [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► me that really what you want to make [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► sure is that the incoming signal and the [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► television agree on everything so if [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► your television always expects a certain [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► mode you send it that mode but if you [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► tell you know you don't want to force it [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► to be into a 0 to 255 if your television [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► is not expecting that because bad things [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► will happen you really just want your [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► television expectations and the input to [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► agree which is why he suggests that [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► leaving in Auto was the correct decision [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► because presumably yes faith that auto [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► will find some way to negotiate with the [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► television and send it the signal at [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► suggesting so this isn't as complicated [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► as I I don't know maybe it is the same [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► thing because I know there's a similar [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► setting this is setting on my television [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► it says accept input values that are [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► outside the range of a normal the normal [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► television specification and there's [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► also a setting I think on the [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► PlayStation that helps to help put that [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► thing but for for this I'm I feel better [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► about leaving it on auto because it's [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► basically as I leave it up to the [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► television that a device to negotiate I [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► think most modern TVs will accept and [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► adjust all these formats but it sounds [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► to me like not sending a 0-255 value to [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► your television is the right thing to do [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► and hopefully that's what my device is [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► sorted out amongst themselves and I did [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► change the settings and look to pictures [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► and I couldn't tell a difference so I [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► imagine it's because my television says [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► oh I'm getting a signal in this format [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► and it senses it and does the right [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► Mike F from across the pond writes in to [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► tell us that the reason that the UK are [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► one reason he speculates that the UK [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► might have a bunch of amateur this is [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► recording from from him amateurish [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► looking DVRs you've never heard of is [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► that their television greatly simplifies [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► the job of DVRs so the video in the UK [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► apparently arrives already encoded in a [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► usable format so they can just dump that [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► right to disk so they don't need an [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► encoder at all for the video they can [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► just take the bit perfect stream and put [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► it right onto disk the program guide is [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► apparently sent with the video so you [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► don't even need a network connection so [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► the list of when the shows are on or [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► what time or whatever comes along in the [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► same signal as the video so you don't [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► need a network connection for your DVR [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► and channels are bundled into something [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► called multiplexes so a DVR with a [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► single tuner can record multiple [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► channels that they happen to be [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► multiplexing to the same stream [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► so that's interesting it's interesting [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► that they're their television [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► infrastructure is more conducive to two [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► DVRs then apparently ours is so for it [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► because certainly we need a program [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► guide we don't get the program [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► information along with our video signals [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► in general Anthony Johnson also in the [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► UK says that the humic machines that I [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► talked about last time are the least [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► worst option available in the UK just [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► like TiVo is in the u.s. so not not at [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► all big fans of these brands that I [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► talked about last time he also talks [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► about the awful weird brand names he [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► says he speculates that it might be [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► because in the UK they believe Asian [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► electronics are superior and they like [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the idea of bad fake English names to [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► make them seem nicer this is his theory [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► I have no idea whether that's accurate [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► or not I just dunno the hue max2 strange [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► name dole Frankel all right same to tell [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► me that I inspired him to go through and [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► turn all of his paper manuals into PDFs [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► I think couple shows ago I talked about [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► my smoke detector and how I had to find [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► the manual I had the paper manual but I [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► couldn't search it so I wanted a PDF [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► version of it and I said the PDF [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► versions of most of the manuals for your [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► appliances are available online so he [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► did a blog post that I linked in the [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► show notes where he showed his junk [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► drawer full of those paper manuals that [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► come with all your appliances and [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► devices and his wife was nagging him to [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► get rid of that and he wanted to clear [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► out that drawer but he says that his [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► monkey brain was telling him I might [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► need it someday so finally he couldn't [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► get rid of the manuals but he did [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► instead was found them all in PDF form [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► and put them all into iBooks on his iOS [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► device and he had things like his [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► manuals from his Sega Genesis and his [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► Nintendo 64 so obviously he's a little [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► bit of a pack rat here abdi says the [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► other day he was sitting in his car and [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► trying to pair his phone with his [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► bluetooth handset and couldn't remember [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► something about it and he just pulled up [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► his iphone pulled up his manual in PDF [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► and looked it up so here's a way to [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► declutter your life turning this into a [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► back to work episode take all of your [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► paper manuals that you have filed [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► somewhere and convert them all to PDFs [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► and then recycle all that paper it's [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► faster easier more searchable and it [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► will make you feel cool and high-tech so [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► good job doe Vaughn that and we have now [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► right now now we're into the [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► transitional period of the follow up we [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► have a question [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► from Justin bakes he asks why doesn't [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► the filesystem keep track of how much [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► data is in every folder and he's [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► complaining it like if he gets info on [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► his home directory and the little get [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► info window in the finder comes up it [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► grinds and grinds and grinds and takes a [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► long time to tell you how much data is [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► in the folder and he says D you from the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► command line takes a long time to why [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► doesn't the filesystem just keep track [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► of this as contents or change that would [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► be nice do you want to take this one why [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► doesn't the filesystem keep track of the [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► contents of folders in other words so [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► that you can very easily and quickly get [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► the size get other data out of it [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► without it having to do that calculation [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► every time that you ask yeah so I'm I'm [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► going to speculate I've never really [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► thought about this but I think my the [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► reason I haven't thought about it is [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► because I just sue my speculation is [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► correct okay but update if you had a [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► situation like that that would mean that [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► every time [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► io is done to any file anywhere below a [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► particular folder you would have to [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► update the those numbers that you [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► keeping track of for every folder in [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► that path so that for the so the first [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► thing means you'd have to keep track of [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► or repeatedly look up which directories [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► are in this files path and in the UNIX [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► file system once you get a file [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► descriptor is just an integer and in [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► general you're not retaining information [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► about that every directory along the [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► path will loop to the root of the file [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► system so you got to store that and [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► that's currently not being stored and [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► then of course there's contention for [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► the all these numbers so if any other [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► files are being modified that along the [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► same path anywhere along the same path [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► you would have to grab some sort of [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► mutex and say okay everybody else stay [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► out I'm gonna update that number because [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► I just added three bytes of data so this [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► directory has three more bytes and its [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► parent directory has three more bytes [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► and its parent directory has three more [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► bytes and all up to the top all right [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► I'm done I really saw my locks okay you [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► can go that seems like it would be a [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► massive bottleneck tayo performance if [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► you had to keep updating those numbers [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► because remember you can't update them [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► like when you're done or when a big file [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► is done being rewritten there is no this [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► is a waiting till done because what is [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► done you'd have to read it every time [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► you did IO right imagine if you were a [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► recording streaming video or something [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► like that yeah or like just untiring a [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► big tar ball you know splatting or [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► running an installer you'd spend all [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► your time you know and so maybe it [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► doesn't sound so bad hfs+ because [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► already [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► only one process can be modifying the [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► catalog at lunch but let's not drag [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► every file system down to be like hfs+ [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► and I believe actually HFS+ does keep [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► more track of this stuff than other [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► processes because like hey I'm locking [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► the whole catalog file anyway and only [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► one process can be modifying the file [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► system anyway but in general the answer [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► is that would produce too much [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► contention that's what I think why file [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► systems don't do that and so when you [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► get info on it then it grinds over [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► everything and looks it up at that time [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► and believe me you'd rather have it be [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► okay what was that in your house than my [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► house yeah I do not know the cat in [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► there or something no I don't nothing in [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► his room I heard that noise and I [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► thought it came over the loud so the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► headphones no it's on your track I'll [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► take your word for it now but nothing [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► nothing is crashed down in this room [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► maybe something is going on outside that [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► I don't know about I would go check [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► all right Hannah's like nah I'll do a [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► sponsor while you do that okay [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► sponsor today is a great new one it's [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► get box so most of you I'm assuming this [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► in the audience are probably developers [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► or designers or writers or you create [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► something so you've probably heard about [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► get to version control system everybody [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► should be using some kind of version [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► control system that matter what you do [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► the problem with git is it's very [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► command-line intensive and even people [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► like me who use get every single day [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► don't know all of the things that you [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► can do on the command line you [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► constantly have to look things up and [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► when it gets into the really tricky [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► stuff like rebasing commits or resetting [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► a branch I mean you almost always have [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► to go to terminal to figure this out [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► that means you have to look stuff up and [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► that slows you down it makes you not [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► want to use it takes away from the [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► benefit of it [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► the gift box will change all of that [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► imagine if your git client was really [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► really easy to use of course we're [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► talking about something for the Mac here [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► and it was really easy to use it work [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► just like Mail app but forget I mean [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► what if it could keep you from screwing [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► up things like committing new versions [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► outside of a branch full-text search [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► visual comparison of file differences [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► all of that stuff it's integrated all [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► these hard to do things that you wish [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► you were able to do more readily get box [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► lets you do them [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► I love get box I started using it when [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► they showed some interest in being a [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► sponsor and man I loved it I haven't [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► even touched the command line since I [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► started using it so here's what you do [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► you go to get box app comm you can [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► download the free trial and if you like [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► it well you should buy it they're giving [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► a 50% discount [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► right now it's $9.99 so go check this [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► out get box app calm when you want to [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► buy it you buy in the App Store it's [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► pretty awesome oh by the way command Z [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► undo how cool is that can't do that on [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► the command line check it out are you [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► back John I am back I investigated I [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► found nothing I went outside the house [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► the only brother person home is my wife [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► she's fine nothing appears to have [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► fallen inside or outside our house I [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► have no idea what that was and it gets [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► warm like you're talking about up there [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► I think the rats start to get active [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► there's been a truck driving by be some [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► in your walls [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► now the rats aren't that loud usually do [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► feed them or no only poison that's what [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► they get fed okay all right so there's [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► the keeping track of contents the file [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► system question now two to feisty bits [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► of follow up here all right need more of [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► these things [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► Alexander Hoffman writes to tell me that [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► the major barrier to statistical [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► significance is not sample size its [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► representativeness I think on some past [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► show I must have mentioned something [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► about statistical significance and how I [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► thought that because we had a small [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► sample size it was probably the Chris [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► Parrillo stuff because I had small [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► sample sizes is necessarily [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► representative and so on and so forth [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► and I generally try to use the right [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► language there but I'm sure I slip into [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► the common definition of statistical [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► significance which does not agree with [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► the real definition as in many cases [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► like the common understanding like off [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► you don't have a lot of people that must [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► not be statistically significant but [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► it's not the number of people that [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► counts it's how representative they are [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► of the large population so the example I [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► think is this Chris Parrillo thing [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► because he says for example you could [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► talk to a million non geeks and still [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► not have a statistically significant [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► sample if that million non geeks were [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► not represented about the larger [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► population of non geeks for example if [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► you're over sampled college grads or [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► understand both college grads or over [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► sampling of the moms of hardcore geeks [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► etc he says that the math we refer to [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► when we mean statistical significance [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► assumes random sampling it does not [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► assume any particular sample size and [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► virtually any effective size can be [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► statistically significant if you have a [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► large enough sample size that's what it [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► says here maybe just confusing the [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► lessons anyway he says you're probably [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► best not even bringing up the term [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► bringing the term up I think he's right [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► I am probably best not even bringing the [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► term up and yet I probably will so in [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► the future I will endeavor to use this [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► term in a correct manner and talk about [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► that the sample is not representative [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► and not that it's too small because [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► representative is what matters and not [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► size I did take several statistics [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► courses in colleges but I confess that [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► all of them have left my brain long ago [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► so here's here's the best one say the [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► best one for last [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► Nik Modesto writes and to say that I am [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► appalled by John's lack of attention to [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► detail when it comes to the Apple TV [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► remote there are no lines from molding [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► or where the manufacturer typically [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► glues two halves together appears to be [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► a sturdy solid piece of aluminum so I've [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► got the remote right in front of me here [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► he is correct I don't see any mo blinds [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► it appears to be I saw a piece of [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► aluminum which is pretty amazing when [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► you think about it like how did they get [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► the insides in they shove it all in [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► through the battery door or is it just [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► like if used together somehow very neat [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► also you don't mention how the menu [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► button is concave and the play/pause [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► button is slightly convex you're [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► constantly talking about having textures [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► or shapes to help you discern which [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► button of your your finger is on by how [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► it feels this oversight of such detail [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► surprises me especially on a remote that [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► only has three buttons and a d-pad the [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► Apple TV remote is not some massive [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► bulbous hunk of plastic you're not meant [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► to grab it grab this object and attempt [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► to strangle it in order to keep hold of [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► it like you do with a TiVo remote it's a [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► lightweight well bounce remote that just [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► lies in the hand I'm sure John sir [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► Johnny would say that it floats in the [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► hand [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► he says I'm almost positive that you are [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► holding it wrong now I can't tell if [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► he's just trolling me but because I'm [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► holding it right you're doing it wrong [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► yeah I'm holding it wrong very [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► specifically like the iPhone 4 [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► hold it like you would hold the golf [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► club or a drum stick lightly wrap your [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► fingers around their mode while it lies [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► in your open hand and then he has a [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► comment on the the white light from the [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► remote as well [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► finally hiding the Apple TV in order to [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► hide the piercing in quotes [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► white light means that you are moving [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► your ability to get visual feedback from [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► the Apple TV unit in the manual you will [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► see there are a series of different [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► patterns that the Apple TV device uses [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► to communicate back to the user [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► especially when things are not working [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► when properly do this at your own risk [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► don't complain in the future about a [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► lack of visual feedback from the system [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► when you're pounding on buttons and the [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► system isn't responding to your commands [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► so this is quite an angry email that me [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► not liking the Apple TV remote the [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► points he made about it being solid and [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► flakies loom are true it's a pretty next [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► little construction here one of them is [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► convex and one of them is concave and [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► the select button is actually concave as [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► well and then the ring is convex which [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► it didn't like but no I didn't note [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► those two things but I think this is a [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► teachable moment in terms of weighing [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► the relative importance of problems a [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► lot of the things I didn't mention like [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► how it's very solid and how the buttons [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► are shaped differently I never even got [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► to talk about or consider those because [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► right away the size was the dominant [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► factor for me the size and the comfort [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► of holding the thing he says is not a [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► big massive bulbous hunk of plastic I [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► apparently like big bulbous hunks of [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► plastic like the TV over remote it feels [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► more comfortable for me to hold it feels [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► more secure it feels more comfortable to [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► put in my hand the mold lines yeah they [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► exist on the TV remote it's not [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► constructed as well as this but I don't [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► feel them or notice them so all these [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► things that he likes about it I would [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► say they are good design you know having [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► the buttons be shape ba1 be convex and [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► concave that's a good idea although I [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► would say the position is more dominant [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► I could probably tell where they are [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► based on the position more than the [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► texture but that's not bad the concave [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► nature of the ring I think is bad [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► because it makes it look feel like my [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► finger is shedding off of it but really [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► the two things make me not like it as [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► two things that I talked about it just [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► feels too small hurt for me and [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► uncomfortable to hold because it's then [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► small and likea that you're holding it [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► wrong thing is a whole different matter [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► and in practical use like I was willing [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► to give it a try it introduced errors [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► into the process when using the remote [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► to do stuff I always found myself [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► hitting the wrong button or accidentally [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► inputting one I didn't want to so I you [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► know that's that's the the all the other [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► stuff falls by the wayside and in light [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► of that [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► now as for the holding I'm a hand the [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► wrong way this kind of came up with the [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► puck mouse to the IMAX puck mouse that [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► was exactly circular some people really [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► like that Mouse [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► I'm always make take pains to say that [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► whenever we talk about it because it [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► gets such a bad rap but some people [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► really liked it because it was very low [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► profile and it was circulant I think the [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► ball was dead center in the middle of it [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► so it felt kind of good to use but it [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► had this one problem that was you know [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► dominant over everything else and that [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► was when you put your hand on it without [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► looking it was sometimes difficult to [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► figure out which way is directly up and [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► then you would push what you thought was [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► directly up and the cursor eGolf on an [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► angle and people will get frustrated so [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► people came up with techniques of like [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► I'll drape your fingers over it so you [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► can feel what the chord is and they put [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► a little texture on the button where [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► they dug out a little piece on the [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► buttons you could try to feel which way [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► is up on the mouse so it's not [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► completely symmetrically circular or [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► people said even without the bump and [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► even route the cord you should be able [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► to feel which way it is but the bottom [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► line is that that one thing that the [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► frustration of grabbing that Mouse [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► without looking and pushing it and [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► having the mouse cursor not go the right [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► way that that overwhelmed everything [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► else that was good about that Mouse for [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► most people and Apple then show your [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► place didn't gave everyone free mice at [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► Macworld 2001 in New York so that's [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► where I come down in that if you like [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► the Apple TV remote bully for you [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► Apple putting in the thing that lets you [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► learn other remotes I think is great I [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► didn't know that feature existed it [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► makes me feel less bad about the remote [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► but I definitely do not like the remote [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► even though it has some aspects of it [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► that are well-designed I'm speaking of [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► concave versus convex I forget if you [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► mention this on the episode we talked [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► about video game controllers for two [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► episodes we talked about video game [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► controllers the SNES controller in the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► u.s. X&Y row concave an A&B or convex if [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► my memory serves I tried to look this up [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► in images and it's hard talent images [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► and I don't have an SNES so I can't look [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► and but in Japan they were not that way [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► so this idea of making some buttons [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► concave and some buttons convex gets a [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► big thumbs up for me and I wish more [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► remotes did it but if your remote is the [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► wrong size and the wrong shape and has [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► sharp edges and scratches my [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► grandfather's wooden end table then yet [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► you get booted out and I go for the [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► bulbous piece of plastic so thank you [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► Nick for your feedback [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► continue to enjoy your Apple around [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► that's my follow-up that was short right [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► shortish well I wouldn't say was it's a [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► record but not bad yeah want to do our [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► second sponsor and we can get into the [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► reality of real topic the real topic [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► there you go well you said that there [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► was a there's a small topic but would [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► you say that before and we talked for [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► hours I think this will be a short ones [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► that you should think of anything after [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► I'm done with it if you think that you [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► want to throw at me then I'll try to [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► tackle unprepared okay [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► well I'll work on something for you see [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► if I can all right come up with it [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► ballers our second sponsor today's [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► FreshBooks calm John Syracuse is it [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► recent fresh books confort it's true [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► painless billing so this the basically [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► what fresh books lets you do it lets you [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► focus on your work not your paperwork [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► it's the fastest way to most of all [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► invoice your clients it also lets you [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► track time can organize expenses I love [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► this service and this is this is the way [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► that it works you want to send your [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► client an invoice normally what's the [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► process you would launch your pages or [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► word you pick one of their awful [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► templates or templates as you say and [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► you fill it out with their information [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► you print it you put it in an envelope [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► and you cross your fingers and hope that [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► they actually get it there's no way to [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► know even if you email it to them [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► there's no way to really know we're not [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► using CC mail we don't get read receipts [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► anymore you just hope they get it and [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► then you hope they pay it fresh books [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► makes all this so much easier they [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► handle all of that you want to send a [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► physical printed invoice they can do [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► that for you you want to send it you [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► want to you know do the modern thing and [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► send them something via email the little [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► email that includes an option for them [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► to print it out or send a PDF you can do [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► that too that's how I invoice everybody [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► all of our sponsors including for I [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► invoice fresh books with fresh books and [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► if you happen to be invoicing somebody [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► who also uses fresh books it just shows [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► up right on their account and their [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► incoming they see it right there and [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► they can pay it all within fresh books [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► it supports all of your favorite payment [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► processing gateways like obviously the [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► PayPal but they'll do authorize.net [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► all the other big ones you do 1099s at [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► the end of the year they've got a plugin [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► for that lets you handle and automate [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► the process sending 1099s I wish you've [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► known about that last year you can try [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► it free for 30 days this is a way that [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► works you can try it free you can try [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► the maximum plan for 30 days you can get [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► it all of your employees using it [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► tracking their time you can do all your [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► invoicing with it if you like it after [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► 30 days you pay for it if you don't like [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► it obviously don't have to because [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► there's no commitment but I think you [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► will I would check it out fresh books [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► calm gonna be funny fresh books didn't [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► want you to invoice fresh books with [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► fresh books they said I'll please send [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► me your invoice is a Word document you [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► know I'd the first it the first time [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► that I invoice them I'd sent it in a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► more traditional way and they're like [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► come up why aren't you using fresh [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► reason and so I did and you know seen [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► the dog food that's right alright my [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► topic today you already talked about [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► this but I wanted to have some [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► discussion of it all right [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► it's Apple China and Mike Daisey I don't [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► think we've ever talked about Apple and [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► China on the show and a lot of people [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► have asked about it and I think the [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► confluence of the Mike Daisey thing and [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► everything provides an opportunity to [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► talk about a great great idea yeah [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► inside that I think the show you talked [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► about this the most on was the talk show [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► least the one that I've listened to so [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► far where you had a long discussion with [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► a John Gruber about the Mike Daisey [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► thing out on past shows you talked with [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► him about China in general and Apple and [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► China sure stuff yeah yeah now you've [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► actually been to China you visited these [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► factories so you have the first-hand [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► knowledge that a lot of us don't have [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► time dependent I've been to Canada once [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► as I count I've never been to China is [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► there a big difference I'm told yes [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► especially since I went to Newfoundland [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► Oh to pick up one of those hounds [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► no no that's the only other country I've [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► ever been to [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► ok unless Florida counts then I think [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► that's more like in a territory [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► yeah so Mike Daisey has this one-man [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► show called the agony and ecstasy of [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► Steve Jobs and this show has been around [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► for a while and I've known about it for [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► a while because these the kind of circle [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► light traveling and you might assume and [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► many people have asked me out [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► agony ecstasy of Steve Jobs or you heard [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► about that are you going to go to that [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► you mind assume since I'm the one who [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► reads all these books about Steve Jobs [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► even ones I don't like and you know a [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► big fan of him that I would be very [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► interested in this show but even before [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► I knew anything about Mike Daisey [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► anything about the show other than the [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► title right away I had no interest in [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► this thing because combined that title [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► with what I have in my mind as you know [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► what one-man show like monologue type [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► things are about and it just this is [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► unfair this is the first impression that [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► I have based just on the title and the [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► fact that it's a monologue knowing [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► nothing about Mike Daisey was that it [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► was gonna be a polemic it was going to [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► be at the agony and the ecstasy this was [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► all around the same time as the bios are [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► coming out and when he died and [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► everything it's like ah he makes such [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► amazing things but he was such a bad [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► person and um you know anything that's [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► on the stage is gonna be dramatic and [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► you know they're gonna focus on how he [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► was a big jerk in all besides I didn't [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► know his had anything to do but Chyna [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► stuff it was just like I'm not [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► interested in seeing that because I read [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► all these books about it I've [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► experienced all this stuff I don't need [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► maybe if someone never know who Steve [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► Jobs was this would be a way to [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► introduce them to it maybe see a one-man [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► show and it would be dramatic [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► interpretation of his life and to appeal [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► an entertaining way for people to learn [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► about Steve Jobs who are never gonna [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► read some you know dry biography about [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► or anything uh but I wasn't interested [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► in it at all and so I just basically [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► ignored it like all those guys doing the [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► show whatever I don't care about the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► show I'm not interested in someone [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► telling me what I should think about [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► Steve Jobs I feel like I have a grasp on [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► it so then there was the American This [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► American Life episode and Mike Daisey [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► was on this episode and he was on he was [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► on the episode both interviewed by the [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► host and also an excerpt from his live [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► show and the excerpt and the interview [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► were about labor practices in China [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► which by this point I had heard a lot [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► about from other news stories and stuff [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► the New York Times did a thing on it and [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► it's been covered everywhere and all the [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► tech press and so I figured even though [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► I'm not interested in this guy's show [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► why did I'm here I am interested in this [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► American life that's the show it's do [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► all the time why don't hear what he has [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► to say on that show and so I listened to [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► the episode and it was the most [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► downloaded episode of this American life [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► or whatever ah [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► and when I heard him on that show [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► I was like when I heard the sections [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► from his monologue I'm like yeah this is [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► pretty much about what I expected when I [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► heard him interviewed and everything I [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► figured yeah this guy's like what I [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► expected and I believe that everything [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► he said in that show and so now verses [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► come out that Mike Daisey has fabricated [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► a lot of the stuff I've asked myself why [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► did I believe everything he said in in [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► the excerpt of the show that was on in [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► this American life and why did I believe [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► everything he said in the interview so [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► the first reason is that I when [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► listening to this I didn't pay much [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► attention to the timeline so it seemed [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► to me when listening to the story that I [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► didn't think about like how long was he [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► actually in China was he there for three [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► days you know or was he there I just [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► assumed he was there for a good long [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► time to talk to all these different [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► people so one of the things that the the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► one of the people who debunked his [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► claims noticed was that hey this guy was [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► only in China for six days how could you [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► possibly have found all these people and [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► talked to all these people in a short [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► period of time so when I was listening [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► to this American life obviously in a [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► radio show everything is compressed and [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► they didn't discuss timeline that much [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► or if they didn't notice it so that did [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► not ring any warning bells for me that [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► it wouldn't be possible for this guy to [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► learn this much in this marathon second [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► thing is I don't know much about China [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► so when he says for example that the [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► security guards at the gates of Foxconn [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► have guns he says in this dramatic way [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► that they have guns and armory of course [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► they have guns so don't security guards [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► at every important factory in the Unites [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► like of course they have guns everybody [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► has guns it didn't you know I'm like [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► I'll roll in my eyes like oh they have [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► guns they're gonna shoot me dead because [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► they're mean right uh no like I said the [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► security guards all factory have guns [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► but if anyone knew anything about China [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► which the guy who de Munck this story [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► did that what was his name Rob Schmidt's [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► or something uh he said well security [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► cars in China can't have guns only the [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► military and the police have guns so his [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► story is suspect but I didn't know that [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► about China so one of the other reason I [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► believe them is that the things that [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► were there were warning bells to people [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► who knew about China didn't ring [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► anything for me because I just don't [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► know much that much about China and but [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► the final thing is that everything he [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► said in that show had been reported [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► elsewhere uh in terms of category so [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► underage children working we've seen [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► reports of that everywhere dangerous [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► chemicals hurting people seen reports [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► that before long were kerosene reports [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► without the suicides and the nets that [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► was like last year in year before all [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► all those things categorically like do [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► these things happen in China yes they do [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► do these things happen in China related [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► to technology manufacturing yes they do [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► so when he gave his specific instances [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► like that this person who was like this [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► then I saw these people and I did that [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► he didn't convince me that things were [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► worse than they expected because I was [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► already predisposed to think that [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► everything he was going to say it was [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► going to be overly dramatized and [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► exaggerated for effect so when he said [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► all these stories I'm like yeah alright [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► I'm sure you did meet some guy like that [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► yeah that sounds plausible yeah the you [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► saw underage workers yeah probably did [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► stuff like that all right so this week [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► or maybe last week or whatever was oh we [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► find out that he made up these things [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► that he didn't meet these people they [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► didn't sit outside the gates for ten [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► minutes and meet a bunch of underage [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► people that he didn't find some guy who [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► were just crippled by working on the [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► line [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► it didn't show an iPad to someone and [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► have this dramatic moment he says well [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► how it's magical I've never seen any [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► real he just made all that up he made it [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► all up [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► uh now despite when when I believed him [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► when you know before all this this stuff [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► had come out that he fabricated I had [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► also seen him on Real Time with Bill [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► Maher which is an HBO show that has a [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► bunch of political tight people on and [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► when I saw him on that show I already [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► went in having an opinion this is gonna [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► be a guy who was like making everything [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► dramatic and overblowing everything but [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► I thought you know maybe I'm just being [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► unfair I think this is the first time I [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► actually should just start this this is [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► the first time I saw him interviewed [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► this is before this American Life [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► episode are concurrent with it or I [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► hadn't listened to it yet so he sits [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► down in a chair across from Bill Maher [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► Hoopoe for people who don't know as a [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► comedian comedian in the United States [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► and he's on HBO which is a cable network [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► where he's allowed to curse and be lewd [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► into all these things so it's kind of [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► like an adult type show and he's [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► actually a pretty tough interviewer [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► because he will call people on their BS [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► and so he's sitting across from Bill [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► Maher and talking to him and listening [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► to that interview further reinforced the [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► idea in my mind that this guy is not out [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► to make sure he's fair to anybody [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► he has got an agenda he's got an axe to [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► grind he's not interested in balancing [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► when Bill Maher or pushback or asking [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► questions you would he would deflect he [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► his he had an agenda ah he had something [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► that he wanted to do and I'm like this [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► guy is not interested in the figuring [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► out what's really going on he's not a [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► reporter he's not a journalist obviously [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► he's an actor I should've thought that [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► he was [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► but some people can be fair-minded you [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► know like for example if you were to put [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► me on some sort of show and uh and I had [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► some sort of cause it would not be very [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► difficult to get me into a one-hour [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► monologue uh against myself you know [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► sort of telling you why my position you [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► know giving the counterpoint to all of [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► my points was that's just how my brain [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► works this guy was not interested in any [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► of the counter points to any of his [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► points he was only interested in selling [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► what he had to sell his his story of of [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► things and I think the story that Mike [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► Daisey tells himself uh is that he's [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► using his art to affect social change he [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► feels for the workers he empathizes with [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► them he thinks that what's happened to [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► them is an injustice and he wants to [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► write to that injustice any possible way [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► that he can now in Gruber show he points [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► out that even if you were 100 percent [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► cynical and thought Apple was yeah [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► totally in the wrong hair and you know [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► and it was motivated only by selfish [TS]