Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► evacuate evacuate b-b-b evacuate you're [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► listening to hypercritical weekly [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► talkshow ruminating on exactly what is [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► wrong in the world of Apple related [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► technologies and businesses nothing is [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► so perfect that it can't be obliterated [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► by my co-host John siracusa i'm dan [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► benjamin today is Friday March 9th 2012 [TS]

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00:00:41 ◼   ► much anything hello john siracusa hello [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► dan bentrim how are you doing today [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► today's Friday it is an exciting week [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► and has been a lot of stuff a lot of [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► stuff happened [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► that's true anything you want to talk [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► about I think there is why why you lower [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► volume today I could be louder if you'd [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► like oh maybe it might just be my [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► computer you're not you haven't changed [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► anything on your end not a thing [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► but I can I can boost the signal if [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► you'd like should I edit this Audi when [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► we leave this in it's part of the show [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► it's up to you I'm just I like it it's [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► real fascinated when things change the [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► more the more things change the more [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► they stay the same [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► alright we got a lot of stuff to get to [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► let's do it I'm actually going to start [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► with a bunch of follow up on file [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► systems I know it usually try to keep my [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► topics that might have minority interest [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► let's say to two shows or fewer usually [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► one show on the topic and then maybe one [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► show full of follow-up and then try to [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► cut it off kind of like a dip with the [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► video game controllers but there's still [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► too much you could follow up on the file [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► system stuff so yeah we will eventually [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► get talking about the iPad don't worry [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► but I do want to go through the last [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► batch of file system follow-up before I [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► get to that I can't believe there was a [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► any follow up there was lots lots of [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► them alright so first one is from this [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► is a email from Adam milky I talked [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► about ZFS deduplication I think in the [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► last episode and I mentioned the show [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► that I didn't know whether it happened [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► at the time you did i/o [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► or at a later point and it was some job [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► that went deduplicated lots of [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► enterprise storage products do that [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► after the fact deduping well they will [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► just crawl over your disk and find the [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► blocks that are common and discard all [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► but one of them ZFS deduplication [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► actually is synchronous so what happens [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► when you do the i/o and there's a [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► significant memory overhead to it [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► because it has to keep track of all the [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► different check sums and everything to [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► be able to quickly determine if there [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► are duplicates and it happens [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► differently the rationale given on on [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► the on the blog entry area this is that [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► they assume that CPUs have many cores [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► and the CPU cost of searching through [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► that table and finding people you get [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► blocks [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► they'll have plenty time to do that [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► because IO is always going to be much [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► slower than CPU and then the number of [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► CPU cores keeps proliferating and he [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► also had a point about that Solaris has [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► a sort of time machine like mechanism [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► that uses ZFS the last shot we talked [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► about how Time Machine could be made [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► more efficient by using some of the [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► features of ZFS and Oracle has done [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► something very similar to that they have [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► something they call time slider I've [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► linked it in the show notes that is a [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► typical kind of Unix Linux II interface [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► so there's no big fancy starfield and [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► windows going back into the distance but [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► it's like a slider control for going [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► back in time to look at all of your [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► different files and it's built on ZFS [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► snapshots and all the stuff we talked [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► about on the last show we also discussed [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► on the last show in the context of SSDs [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► the idea of this distinction we have [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► between memory and disk and how as disks [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► stop becoming actual spinning disks and [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► start becoming memory chips how they're [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► the storage hierarchy could be unified [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► into one model and I mentioned this [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► wasn't a new idea and Hugh Fischer wrote [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► to tell me that a specific instance of [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► this being done in the past in the 70s [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► IBM developed a series of machines and I [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► think they're still selling them called [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► system 38 and the as400 line I've only [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► ever heard of as400 system 38 looks [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► vaguely familiar [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► they do do this that have a unified [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► memory filesystem type of model so there [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► you go it's happening it's happening [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► long ago and it continues to happen but [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► certainly not in the PC space [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► Sean Cohen writes in that palm OS of all [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► things actually had a unified memory [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► model back in 1.0 mostly because they [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► all they had was Ram this is from the B [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► palm wiki palm OS 1.0 does not [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► differentiate between RAM and filesystem [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► storage applications are installed [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► directly into RAM and executed in place [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► so that's that's neat that actually kind [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► of went away when pomalyst 4.0 was [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► introduced and it started to look more [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► like a file system in RAM there was also [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► ROM in the original palm you don't hear [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► much about ROM these days but the [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► original Mac and many older computers [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► had some read-only chips they can [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► like based version of the operating [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► system or some routines that are always [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► going to be used by the operon system [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► just so they'd have to take up precious [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► ram with that information because the [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► RAM was more expensive than Rome ah Rick [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► Faribault writes to tell me that modern [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► hard disk drives do have their own error [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► correcting mechanism built into them so [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► they use a ECC fields on the sectors on [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► the disk and try to detect and correct [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► errors of various kinds he apparently [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► began his career in the 70s at IBM and [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► worked on the disk drive group worked on [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► the Winchester family of drives remember [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► that name from Shirley sure of course [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► yeah uh and he worked on making disk [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► drives work with the IBM 370 / 135 I [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► love IBM's product names it's always [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► letter a number / other letter and [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► number Oh [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► he also says his son listens to the show [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► so hello Rick son your dad is pretty [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► cool [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► Andrew Richard pointed me to a talk by [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► Abby Miller of Oracle at the Linux conf [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► au the Australian Linux conference in [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► 2012 in January this is a very recent [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► talk the title of the talk was I can't [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► believe this is butter at or btrfs but [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► it's not btrfs it's butter FS but I keep [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► saying BTR I don't feel so bad about [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► saying btrfs because I watched this [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► video and in the video the presenter [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► frequently is typing at the command line [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► and the command line tool for fiddling [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► with butter FS is called btrfs so he's [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► speaking as he's typing trying to say [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► okay and I'll just type it put his buddy [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► you think he would say I'll just type [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► butter FS space list space - whatever [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► you know is but he says btrfs because [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► he's actually typed in the letters BTR [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► you can't bring himself to say butter so [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► i don't feel so bad about flubbing the [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► name so much but the reason I bring up [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► this video and it's in the show notes is [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► one I think it's pretty neat and the guy [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► is this has a fun personality it's not a [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► very dry presentation and at the end of [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► it they did something that I had never [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► heard of that I thought was a phrase [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► that I can't use in this program but [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► let's say pretty neat [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► he had an ext2 file system and he said [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► I'm going to show you how you can [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► convert this to butter FS and the way [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► the conversion works he didn't go into [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► technical details so I'm going to make [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► some speculation about the actual under [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► the technical underpinnings but the the [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► end effect is what he demonstrated the [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► the way it does this is it initializes a [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► BTR but RFS file system on top of your [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► existing the xt2 file system by making [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► all the metadata structures to point to [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► the data on disk but the data that it [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► points to is all the data where it [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► existed in ext2 file system so it [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► doesn't modify your ext2 file system at [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► all it just makes a bunch of new [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► metadata that says ok this is over here [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► that's over there this piece of this [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► files over here this is the information [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► about this file and when it's done doing [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► that and you reboot and then you reboot [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► to tell you at the edit the HDFS tab and [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► tell it that your file system is now but [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► er FS it's not ext2 anymore because had [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► already written information so you can [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► boot from this and when you boot it [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► looks like you have a brand new but er [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► FS file system with a snapshot and the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► snapshot points to the exact state it [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► was before you did the conversion and [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► you know and then he you know he [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► installed a bunch of stuff and showed [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► how because this is butter FS we can [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► roll back because we have a snapshot and [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► all those other stuff but what you can [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► actually do is roll back to the very [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► first snapshot and in the very first [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► snapshot your file system was the XD to [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► us you can roll it back to the exact [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► point at which you converted the volume [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► and it will become an ext to file system [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► again it doesn't actually do this in the [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► video but the point is that you've [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► non-destructively changed your entire [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► file system and the reason you can do [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► that of course is because but our FS is [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► copy and write is never going to [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► overwrite the the blocks that make up [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► that ext2 file system leaves all of it [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► exactly as it is on the disk and just [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► writes new data to different locations [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► and so it's it's kind of you know once [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► you go back to the very very last nap [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► shot and you remove all the all the [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► butter FS stuff what you're left with is [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► a valid ext to volume that you can boot [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► from I thought that was amazing and a [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► really fun consequence of copy and write [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► like look we're not actually going to [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► modify any of your data and suddenly one [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► file system can look like it's another [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► because we will just point to all the [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► same data in the same location so that [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► was cool so thank you Andrew for [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► pointing me to a video [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► Boyd waters asks if I ever played with [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► FreeBSD s dragonfly hammer file system [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► I've heard of it I have not ever read [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► much about it I put the link in the show [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► notes to the page on the dragonfly bsd [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► org site that describes it it has a lot [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► of the similar features that we've been [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► talking about snapshots file system [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► multi volume file systems integrity [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► checking mirroring a file history all [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► the things you would expect it doesn't I [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► didn't look into the tech specs enough I [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► assume it's kind of like a copy-on-write [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► buzzes and because that's the only [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► reasonable way to support all these [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► features but it didn't say explicitly [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► but that is another option of the free [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► option for if you're trying to set up a [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► sort of home storage area network with [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► multiple volumes and you want it to be [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► reliable and redundant take a look at [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► dragonfly bsd s hammer filesystem were [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► you a big freebsd user you never never [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► never I mean at least love FreeBSD we [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► used to use that for all of our non [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► Solaris four systems like four one two [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► four one three four one two four time [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► period before when they were starting to [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► switch the Solaris to remember that I do [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► not remember that but we're all using [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► France beat FreeBSD now and if there are [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► then we know it or not underneath there [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► a lot of the same code whether you like [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► it or not yeah Steve Schreiber writes in [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► to tell me that he listened he listened [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► to the whole show by file systems and [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► got all upset about HFS boss the but [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► then he said he we never told him what [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► steps we take to mitigate this problem [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► of HFS getting corrupted and stuff like [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► that so for all people who are wondering [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► what should I do about it now that [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► you've heard all these bad things but [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► HFS+ I would direct everyone to episode [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► number two hyper critical way back when [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► called backup vortex the summary of the [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► advice in there is have multiple backups [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► in different physical locations [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► I do time machine to onedrive SuperDuper [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► to another plus I use a cloud backup [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► service I use Backblaze for one of my [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► computers and use CrashPlan for the [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► other [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► that takes care of having your data [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► backed up for combating H of s file [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► system corruption I run Disk Utility [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► pretty regularly not on a fixed schedule [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► or anything but every once in a while [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► when I get that feeling I'm not going to [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► be in front of the computer for a while [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► I will fire up Disk Utility and run [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► repair disk and I'll run repair disk on [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► my time machine volume I'll run it on my [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► SuperDuper volume and then I'll run [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► verify on my boot volume and verify [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► finds an error I'll reboot from one of [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► the other ones and repaired just doing [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► that you know people ask is that [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► something you should do regularly I [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► wouldn't do it every day or maybe not [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► even every week because it is highly i/o [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► intensive and you could be you know [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► wearing out here drive with all this [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► extra i/o and it takes forever and [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► especially when you do your boot disk it [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► locks things up for a long time [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► but I would put that as one of your [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► regular maintenance things unlike some [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► voodoo like resetting your pee Ram or [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► repairing permissions or stuff like that [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► like you want this to find no errors you [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► want this to be a no op but I suggest [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► running it because pretty frequently I [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► run it and it finds a little problem and [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► fixes it and it's much better to fix [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► those little things as you go than to [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► wait until they accumulate and maybe [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► they can't be repaired or I've caused [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► some problem already and of course what [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► can I do about the bits actually [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► flipping on the disk because of cosmic [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► rays or other you know or just things [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► going bad it's not much I can do about [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► that it's not much anyone can do about [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► until we get the quote-unquote end end [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► data integrity oh and speaking of Rick [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► Faribault's comments about the the ECC [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► things on drives that's all true with it [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► but one of the points of ZFS is that its [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► end-to-end data integrity that's their [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► slogan which means that all that the the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► error correcting on the drive itself [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► means is that the drive can tell well I [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► was presented with this data and I wrote [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► it to disk and I can try to be sure [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► about that but there can be bugs in [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► other layers of the storage stacked like [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► for example just the disk controller or [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► a crimped SATA cable or anything like [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► that will affect what appears to the [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► drive so if bad data gets the drive and [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► the drive dutifully records that bad [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► data it's that's not helpful to you so [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► ZFS is trying to say if there's any [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► problem anywhere in the chain of the [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► storage stack we will detect it that's [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► the intent data integrity promise of ZFS [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► so that's why I responded him and said [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► that the error correcting codes on [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► this drives are good but not sufficient [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► to ensure that your data actually is [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► what you expected to be all right that [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► was pretty quick but that was the file [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► system follow-up I had four and [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► hopefully we the last of it [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► it's not so bad yeah that's actually [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► some of the shortest follow-up and maybe [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► you've ever done kudos a lot of entries [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► but I went through it quickly I think so [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► ready to talk about the Apple event I [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► would love to talk about this event did [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► you I know that you have a people may [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► not realize this but you are neither [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► full-time doing this show nor are you [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► full time as a writer for four Ars [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► Technica you are full time in a mystery [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► company you're a big big come your [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► company man corporate stooge and dude [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► well I'm it's the polite term that's the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► plight when I don't know that he'd be [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► impolite one oh you go to your you're a [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► working stiff stiff isn't it's not [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► getting better okay yet so and so how [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► did you see did you watch it when you [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► got home were you there were you [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► following along online did your boss [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► know you were doing this I do wonder [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► though sometimes if people assume that I [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► have three full time jobs or two full [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► time jobs is even two of those it seems [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► like look how could you possibly I don't [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► know anyway yes are you right that's not [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► I was at work during the day [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► I followed along tangentially in the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► live blogs you know like the little [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► streaming thing of text but I didn't get [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► to actually watch the video until I came [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► home and the kids were in bed and so on [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► and so forth [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► so that that's how I watched but getting [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► the news is enough you know and speaking [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► of the video but a lot of people have [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► asked that I tweeted several times about [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► my trials and tribulations trying to get [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► a high quality version of the video [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► because Apple will post it on its [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► website but I usually put like a web [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► friendly bird and it's not so big and [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► and sometimes they have the super ultra [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► high def high quality version hiding [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► somewhere and I always try to ferret it [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► out so I put links in the show notes to [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► the embedded video on Apple's website if [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► you haven't seen this presentation and [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► you want to watch it you can just go and [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► it's on the website you can watch it if [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► you want a higher definition version of [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► it and you want to be able to download [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► it not just stream it in your browser [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► Apple has video podcast [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► feeds for its keynote presentations and [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► they recently reintroduced in HD one so [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► I provided a link to the Apple keynotes [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► HD video podcast feed it's still not as [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► high-quality as occasionally you can [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► find when they're like streaming it live [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► and you can you know dig into the [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► QuickTime files and find the actual [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► things that they're referencing in the [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► CDN and pull down the dot TS files then [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► cat them together there's a whole I've [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► done some crazy things because I like to [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► have high quality archived version of [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► this video but the HD video feed is what [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► I suggest if you want to just have a [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► nice downloadable copy that you can [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► scrub around and peek it stuff and [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► before we talk about the products in it [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► is this was this the first major product [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► announcement without Steve being there I [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► can't I don't remember anymore well then [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► now I mean major in the sense that it [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► was new I I guess so I mean there was [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► the iPhone 4s wasn't that announced [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► while he was still alive and and toward [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► the end there my memory so bad I don't [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► know but did one of the things I noted [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► it from watching in his house you know [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► is the first time it struck me about how [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► the presentation is different with Steve [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► not here and the main difference was [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► that I'll be his portions of the keynote [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► presentations were imbued with his [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► personality that's true of all the [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► presenters out there it's just that his [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► personality was different than their so [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► you know Phil Schiller his personality [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► is kind of you know goofy and fun and [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► he's always been like that in his [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► section of the presentation is like that [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► and Tim Cook is very professional and [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► he's all business and he's very serious [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► and he's you know intense when he talks [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► about the stuff that he's going to talk [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► about and now Tim Cook has taken over a [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► lot of the same stuff the jobs has done [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► including the ending thing where he [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► comes back on stage and puts the palms [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► of his hands together and says something [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► meaningful about the company as a whole [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► the thing I really missed about jobs [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► being there is that he was always just [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► so kind of snarky about competitors like [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► there was never there was never the [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► moment in the presentation where he's [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► got some formal formal things where he's [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► talking about the slides and you know a [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► great display and we really think this [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► is a great blah blah and there's always [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► that part [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► where he goes let these competitors [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► things that crap I mean he doesn't say [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► that but like his tone of voice that's [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► like hey they're doing this thing forget [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► it you know he always wants to jab the [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► other guys he's always wants to get in [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► that little thing there and it was like [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► peeking underneath the the the polished [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► presentation to the guy who's just got a [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► chip on his shoulder or just it is [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► things to stuff is so much better than [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► all the guys mad they even exist and no [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► one in the current lineup of presenters [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► has a personality that's like that or if [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► they do they don't let it show on stage [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► and one of the one of the reasons Jobs [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► did is because who's gonna yell at him [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► like who's gonna complain about this [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► little unprofessional outburst same [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► thing on earnings calls when jobs is on [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► earnings calls everyone else is so [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► controlled and careful on earnings calls [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► but occasionally you could get jobs to [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► go off on some sort of little rant and [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► say something sort of not in the PR [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► Handbook or a little bit too revealing [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► or a little bit childish or vindictive [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► nobody can be relied upon to be like [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► that in Apple presentations anymore [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► everyone is still very professional the [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► closest you get is like you know Phil [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► Phil's just I don't think that's Phil's [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► personality period or if it is it's [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► totally his personality in private but [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► like when Phil Schiller was demoing the [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► iPads connecting together with Bluetooth [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► and having a GarageBand thing with four [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► people jamming together Phil at the end [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► is like I just wanted that guy at the [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► end to take his iPad and smash it on the [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► ground like you're smashing a guitar you [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► know that's as close as you'll get to [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► have something sort of off script alone [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► sir that was scripted too but you know [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► someone's personality showing through [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► but that's a very different kind of [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► personality than jobs and I don't see [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► Tim Cook Tim Cook will tell you how [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► everything is doing wonderful and how [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► how it's better than what the [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► competitors are doing but not in it in a [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► childish taunting way and a little bit [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► of child is taunting is fun so I missed [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► that and I miss Steve ikg healing the [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► chatroom points out the Forrestal has a [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► little bit of that you can help work [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► stalls got a little bit of a an attitude [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► and wants to slam the other guy's a [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► Forrestal gets gets a lot of I don't you [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► say bad press but a lot of people say [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► he's just trying to be a little Steve [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► like he's imitating his personality he's [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► looked at what Steve did and he wants to [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► be like him I don't I don't know enough [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► to know that's the case I'm willing to [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► say that [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► it just so happens that forestalls [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► personality is very similar to jobs its [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► personality and he's not doing an [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► imitation or trying to is just being [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► himself and and his personality is [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► closer to what Steve was like but he [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► wasn't on stage people saying where's [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► Forrestal don't worry when I OS X is [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► announced he'll be there you'll see [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► plenty of for us though so enough [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► meta-commentary it's perfect time after [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► your metaphor for sponsor good idea [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► because you nailed it twenty minutes [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► you've got this down it's like you're a [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► scientist I'm a machine you are your [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► machine harvest it's our first sponsor [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► it's a painless time tracking and [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► invoicing application some of the most [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► innovative teams in over 100 countries [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► use this we use it happy cog uses it you [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► heard of them you ever heard of [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► Volkswagen they use it and it will use [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► it because it's great it's the simple [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► reason why and I want you guys to try it [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► they just came out I mean you can even [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► first of all before I tell you what they [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► just came out with you can you can use [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► this on the web I mean that's really how [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► they started they were a website but [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► they've got an iPhone app I'm going to [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► Android up and they've got a brand new [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► native Mac App harvest format so you can [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► track the time right from your desktop [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► so here's the here's the thing you sit [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► down you start working and then you know [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► what a client comes in the office you [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► get up you walk out yeah oh man I forgot [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► forgot to stop because there's this [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► global hotkey where you start recording [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► when you're tracking your time right you [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► forgot to hit stop you come back your [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► desk like great now how am I gonna fit [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► it's smart and it gets it it knows what [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► you're trying to do it knows your [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► machine was idle it can take away the [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► idle time so you don't accidentally over [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► bill your client and of course you can [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► switch back to your browser and get [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► features like invoicing visual time [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► stuff the project budget reports here's [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► the thing you go in there you get a 30 [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► day trial it's free you don't give them [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► your credit card you don't give them [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► anything you just create a sign-in and [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► you're in and you're using but if you go [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► to get harvest calm slash 5x5 it's very [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► important very important to use that URL [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► after your trial period here's a coupon [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► code 50% off your first month coupon [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► code is five by five very important so I [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► offer expires April 21st I'd really love [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► for you guys to try this out we use this [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► app and it really is great and proud to [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► have these guys as a spawn [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► get harvest calm such 5:05 the last week [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► talked about what we thought our would [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► be in the presentation yes and I think I [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► did pretty darn well considering my [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► complete lack of inside info I guess I [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► was a little bit cheating by being close [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► to the event so let's go over some of [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► the things I said last week you asked [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► about the Apple TV that I think there [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► would be something else something not [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► alluded to on the invitation [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► specifically about a TV thing I thought [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► the emphasis would be on the iPad and if [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► they had anything about Apple TV would [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► just be a new one of those little black [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► boxes with bumps specks and maybe some [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► 1080p content to play on it and lo and [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► behold that's what we got a new black [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► box 1080p support and as I think I've [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► said on past shows I was gonna wait to [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► get an Apple TV until the new one came [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► out the no one is out I ordered one it [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► will be coming on 16th now 10 10 were [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► you were you specifically waiting for [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► 1080p or you were just you were just [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► hopeful or you just said you know what [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► if I if I get a new one now I know this [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► will be what they're going with why why [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► now why wait I was not going to buy one [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► that only did 720 because I my [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► televisions are all 1080p why would I [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► buy something like that 720 I wanted as [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► I also wanted as a Netflix box because [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► well Netflix doesn't even scream 1080p I [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► don't think anyway it's just on [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► principle why would I ever buy something [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► doesn't do 1080p I don't think it's out [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► of the realm like even the cheapest [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► Costco you know television sets [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► bargain basement things do 1080p these [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► days there's no excuse for something not [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► to do 1080 subs no I was never gonna buy [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► a 720 only Apple TV I really hope they [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► would add a Bluetooth remote they didn't [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► but the up-res stuff is enough for me so [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► I ballin and I plan to use it as a [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► Netflix box basically because I have so [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► many things that stream Netflix but this [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► one has no fans in it and the TiVo the [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► TiVo Netflix streaming I was now [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► unusable for me because it's just so [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► slow and unreliable and crashy so I [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► would like to be able to stream Netflix [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► without turning on the ps3 and I use the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► Apple TV do then and now I can finally [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► do airplay stuff and also the [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► things that you get with the appellee [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► view that I thought were neat but [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► wouldn't be reason for me to buy it [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► alone something John our friend John [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► Gruber pointed out is that you can now [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► sign up for Netflix all on the Apple TV [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► that you're in the past you have to go [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► to their website sign up create it and [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► then you'd go and you take your username [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► and password go to the Apple TV enter it [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► in there you no longer have to do that [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► you can create your account and my [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► understanding is that it actually will [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► bill you through your iTunes account [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► that you're not it's it's not like [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► you're now going to get a separate bill [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that Netflix is billing through that and [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► that you can do the same thing for those [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► of us who are baseball fans you can do [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the same thing with the MLB at bat and I [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► believe there's a couple other [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► subscription services that you can now [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► access and sign up right through the [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► Apple TV and have billed through your [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► iTunes account can you imagine what kind [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► of deal Apple must be getting for [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► Netflix like what cut of the of the [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► subscriptions or some sort of per [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► customer fee because man like Netflix is [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► asking Apple I know you have your own [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► service where you you know provide video [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► for money over this box so we'd like to [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► be on there too and you know customers [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► like us so can we get on your thing and [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► use your billing system because it [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► really reduces friction Apple Ike all [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► right but we're going to take who knows [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► what that business deal is but I'm [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► Netflix is getting the short end of that [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► it monetarily but it's still probably [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► worth it to them to get access to those [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► customers I definitely think and I think [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► it I think Apple should be very pleased [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► whether they are on the better end of [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► that deal or not simply because there [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► are people like you who you know for [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► whom Netflix is a huge selling point in [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► fact we have we have two Apple TV's [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► right now and one of them is is pretty [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► much dedicated just for my kid to watch [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► the Netflix stuff on it like that's it [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► is a Netflix box for that for that room [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► and no fans no fans it doesn't even get [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► warm and I'll tell you what else the [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► airplay you're really going to enjoy [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► airplay with games if because you can [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► you can simply project your games right [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► up there on the screen now there's a [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► little bit of a delay in a lag but if [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► you've ever had your kid wanting to [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► watch you play a game like maybe the [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► game is too advanced for your kid [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► although that that seems reverse mostly [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► kids are better and stuff but there's a [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► few games that I have that my [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► four-year-old likes to watch me play as [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► opposed to playing himself you just put [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► those right on the TV you can sit next [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► and watch it's great [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► I think I'll mostly try using it for [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► like showing photos and videos because [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► right now I can do that in ten different [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► ways I can show them from the ps3 I can [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► you know I have to go to the computer [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► and set up iPhoto and then I folk export [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► them and then various things can read [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► them on the TiVo or on the ps3 it's so [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► much easier if I could just do that [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► wirelessly oh yeah in the same room with [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► an iOS - by sitting in front of the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► thing - just put up some pictures and [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► from a different room John if you want [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► yeah or car now with like with photo [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► stream and the new iPhoto for iOS now I [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► actually have access like my actual [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► photo so this this will be great I think [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► will be a good addition to the this set [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► of stuff I've have in my house so the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► iPad my predictions on that were [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► pregnant displayed I knew that I thought [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► it would have the same case a little bit [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► thicker that was heavily rumored also [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► true we talked a little bit about the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► dock connector whether they replace it I [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► said same dock connector that was right [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► on pricing I said I thought the pricing [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► would be the same and they would push [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► down by continuing to sell the iPad - [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► that's exactly what they did I said that [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► I thought Apple should push upwards but [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► they were afraid - and lo and behold [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► they didn't there is no 128 gigabyte [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► model top end price is the same as the [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► previous top end price the CPU I thought [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► I thought that the a6 wasn't ready and [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► it wouldn't be quad-core and lo and [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► behold it is the a 5x as rumored it is [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► dual-core but they wanted to have [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► quad-core somewhere in the presentation [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► and on the spec stage so they said [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► quad-core GPU we're really core counting [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► is not the way GPUs tend to be measured [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► these days but but that was an [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► interesting bit of marketing needed [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► their cameras I said I thought they had [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► to find some way to try to get some of [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► their markings back so I did not think [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► they would have the iPhone 4s camera in [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► the iPad in fact I said I thought I [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► wouldn't be surprised they didn't change [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► the cameras at all [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► well they didn't change the front one [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► it's exactly the same VGA FaceTime [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► camera there was that and the back one [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► has the 4s [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► optics the optics from the iPhone 4s [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► camera but not the same sensor it's 5 [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► megapixels instead of 8 megapixels so [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► they sort of split the difference there [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► so I'm feeling pretty good about what I [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► thought was going to happen and what [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► they actually did what the [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► my big miss was the one I walked about [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► in the beginning I said that previously [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► I was so sure that they were not going [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► to do LTE but that in recent weeks I was [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► feeling more doubtful about that I stuck [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► to my guns and I said I think no LTE [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► well I was wrong on that one and I was [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► right to doubt it because they have LTE [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► and I find it a little bit surprising [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► mostly because I thought the power [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► consumption would just be too much but [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► that battery that they jammed in there [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► is supposedly a 70% higher capacity it's [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► not like you know like they made it like [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► less than a millimeter thicker so you're [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► like oh how much bigger could the [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► battery be how much more capacity could [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► possibly have you know 10% 15% [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► apparently has 70% more capacity so [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► those chips in that screen really are [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► sucking juice and they they solved that [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► problem by just jamming in more battery [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► it makes me wonder I guess for the next [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► year for the next model you would assume [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► they're going to go back to starting to [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► get thinner again and the way they'll do [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► that is not by increases in battery [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► technology because battery technology [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► increases very slowly but by new [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► chipsets that consume a lot less power [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► than the current LTE chipsets and maybe [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► reducing the power of the screen if they [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► possibly can [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► but not so much by saying ah now we have [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► a battery that's the same size but twice [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► the capacity that doesn't happen really [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► that would be quite a breakthrough in [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► battery technology so Apple is running [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► up against physics with the amount of [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► stuff they're jamming in here which is [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► another reason I think they should [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► consider going up scale to possibly have [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► I don't know I don't know how this I've [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► thought about this a lot I don't really [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► see a way out for them but I I think [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► long term the idea of an iPad is larger [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► than 10 inches starts to become [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► something Apple has to consider and do [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► and at that point you can fit all sorts [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► of things in there and battery life can [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► expand greatly and now you're talking [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► about like a professional pad we're not [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► there yet we're not even close to there [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► yet and we the real problem is how would [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► software work you know considering if [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► you try to keep similar sizes for [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► everything now a regular iPad app is [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► smaller in the center of the screen you [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► have to have these iPad pro apps that [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► are bigger that I think this will happen [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► someday but not this year not next year [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► and maybe not the year after that we did [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► talk about the name briefly you asked me [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► what I thought the name was I [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► went back to the podcast and listened to [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► see exactly what I said what I said [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► my first reaction of the name is I'm not [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► really interested in that because it's [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► not going to change the product that's [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► apparently Apple's not really interested [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► in the name either because they they [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► pumped it on that uh when press was you [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► essentially not going to commit to a [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► name I said that I thought if the case [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► was thicker than they would go with [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► three but it was exactly the same case [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► they get away with two s they decided to [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► go with no name at all and what I [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► tweeted during the presentation was like [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► the Apple in in the jobs two era has [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► been very anti speck where they didn't [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► want to compete on specs anymore because [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► they kept getting burned competing on [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► specs they would and the PC world was [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► all about the numbers and if if you show [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► all your numbers you are sort of [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► accepting that this is how products are [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► compared you put them in a big table you [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► say how many megahertz how many [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► megabytes you know battery life screen [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► size you just do the specs and say oh [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► well for the ascent and then the price [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► is the big number you say well for that [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► same price I can get a PC that has [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► better this better that better that [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► because the numbers are bigger and if [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► you keep playing that game apples always [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► going to lose there because they they [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► value different things and they put [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► their money towards different things [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► like yeah you know does this laptop a [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► case yes checkmark case case seems like [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► they're equal right well the Apple would [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► spend all this money on these cases made [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► of titanium or whatever and that is not [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► represented by a checkmark and so yeah [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► their CPU was slower the batterer your [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► life was worse but the other parts were [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► unaccounted for so Apple said you know [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► we're just not going to talk about that [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► starting specifically with the iOS [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► devices we're having to tell you what [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► CPU is in it Ram yeah they have RAM but [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► that's all we're going to tell you or I [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► can tell you how much RAM is in them [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► they really only wanted to focus on the [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► spec so they think matter to consumer is [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► like battery life or how long will the [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► battery last they don't tell you what [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► battery technology they're using or [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► anything like that when it suits them [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► they will tout specs that they think [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► they're ahead on hey the Retina display [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► look this resolution is bigger than HD [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► quad-core GPU that's meaningless quote a [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► quad-core GPU means nothing to anyone [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► but it sounds fancy and they need some [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► way to talk about the fact that the a5 [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► has fewer doesn't have four cores [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► because they touted the a5 dual-core [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► bits like hey this is [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► back we camped out twice as fast dual [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► core whatever but they just don't want [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► to play that spec game at and you know [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► they only want to they only want to play [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► it when for any specific narrow [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► instances where they can win uh and that [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► philosophy is served them well moving [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► the conversation from you know don't buy [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► that iPad because you can buy a Zune [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► that has more megahertz you know I think [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► it's silly conversations like that and [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► even in the PC space talking less about [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► the specs on the PCs and more about the [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► the intangibles well as it turns out [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► there's one other number that Apple [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► needs to expunge from their product line [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► and that is the number after the product [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► iPad 2 [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► iPhone 4 iPhone 4s iPhone 3G that one [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► little place where they let in eighth a [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► number that you need to increase that [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► they let that creep into their product [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► lines and they learned I think a hard [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► lesson with the 4s where they said you [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► know we're not going to call us the [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► iPhone 5 we're going to call it the 4s [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► same thing with 3G and 3GS and I just [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► kept getting slammed because the number [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► wasn't one bigger it's like well last [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► year was a four and now it's still a [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► four but there's a letter shouldn't it [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► be a five you know it's a spinal tap [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► well that's one louder isn't it but this [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► one isn't one louder it's just got an S [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► on the end and so Happold head you know [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► what fine if you guys can't handle you [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► know that if that suddenly becomes how [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► we're judged and how public perception [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► of our products is influenced by the [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► stupid number at the end of proc game no [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► more numbers for you iPad 2 and then the [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► new one is just called the iPad so you [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► know you're gonna happen how about the [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► fact there's no numbers but at least [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► you're not going to say well it should [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► have been the iPad 3 but it's the iPad [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► 2s and we're all sad now and as many [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► many people have pointed out on the [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► internet like this doesn't phase me at [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► all and I don't understand how like [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► maybe your initial reaction it's like oh [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► no numbers that's weird but the second [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► someone reminds you because everyone [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► knows this isn't like people knows [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► reminds you that the MacBook Air doesn't [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► have numbers the the MacBook doesn't [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► have numbers the iMac doesn't have [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► numbers and somehow we all survived year [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► a year with IMAX coming out with what is [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► just the iMac 7 the iMac 28 I don't know [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► how can I tell that this iMac is but [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► it's just the iMac it and once someone [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► reminds you of that people it amazes me [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► that people persist in saying ok [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► but I still think it should be iPad 3 [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► why but don't what don't you understand [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► how these people are so okay with the [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► iMac not having a number on it [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► and yet still when they've gone back and [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► thought about it are upset about the [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► fact that the iPad doesn't have a number [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► on it if if you need more if you need [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► more convincing that that why this [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► dropped the numbers is how the iOS [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► devices are different than PCs well it's [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► clear that Apple thinks that the iPad is [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► the successor to the PC this whole post [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► PC thing and the beginning of the [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► presentation about this is a post PC [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► world and Apple's the leader in this [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► space and all the stuff that we already [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► know but that's clearly apples pitch if [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► the iPad is the thing that succeeds the [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► PC why should it have to have numbers [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► when Apple's PC products don't doesn't [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► make any sense to me of course the [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► situation we have in all the the Mac [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► around is that we have these I was [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► calling the support names some people [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► call them Apple care names but they the [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► products do have names and for the real [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► nerds we know that it's like you know [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► Mac Pro for comma one there are specific [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► model numbers that are completely [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► unambiguous that tell you exactly what [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► your machine you have but then there are [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► the support names like you know uh well [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► I booked what does some of the name so [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► she could look something up like a there [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► used to be like mirror drive door Power [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► Mac g4 or a primary key form your Drive [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► door or white eye book late spring 2003 [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► like they'd have all these weird phrases [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► that would uniquely identify Apple [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► support system the particular machine [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► you had and they weren't the part [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► numbers with it with the numbers and the [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► comments and everything so there were [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► two unique ways to identify your think [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► one of them was techie and nonsensical [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► you know the MacBook Pro 8 comma 2 is [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► someone just pasted it into the chat [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► room uh and then there were the longer [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► names that had some parenthetical phrase [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► about the time of release or the color [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► of the thing or the dual USB iBook all [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► sorts of weird phrases to differentiate [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► it from the previous one and then [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► finally was is the product name itself [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► and even on the iPad even though it was [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► called the iPad 2 and they use iPad 2 to [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► the marking material when you bought one [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► in the store it comes in a package that [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► says iPad on it doesn't say iPad to any [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► or on the package and same thing with [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► the iPods the iPod Nano gap applied a [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► note to the iPod Nano 3 the iPod Nano 4 [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► they just can't make [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► new iPod nanos and they didn't put [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► numbers on them and they were you know [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► they had product numbers and names and [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► all this stuff where they could be you [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► could identified - so the name thing [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► just boggles my mind that I I'm not [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► surprised that people have the distil [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► reaction of all where's the number like [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► that's natural it's natural to have that [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► immediate reaction but once you've had [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► the 5-10 minutes to talk about it and [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► once you've seen the obvious rebuttals [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► I'm amazed that people don't find those [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► convincing and it continued to go well I [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► think it's Jap numbers really really [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► done let's see what else we have here [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► Ram we never talked about RAM when we [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► were talking about predictions to the [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► show Matt or maybe we did in a remember [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► I don't think we did actually [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► so Apple does another spec that Apple [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► doesn't talk about they don't they don't [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► obey Ram in the pressroom room [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► afterwards when the press goes in there [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► and gets to talk to the Apple people are [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► stacked nigga and other publications who [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► are read by nerds dutifully ask every [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► time how much RAM does it have and the [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► Apple people do beautifully today we're [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► not talking about that today or whatever [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► the hell they're you know polite no [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► comment answers that's that's so silly [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► and strange like the fact that they [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► don't talk about it fine they don't they [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► don't think that's something I'd [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► emphasize don't don't talk about it in [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► the event but afterwards in the press [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► room when some nerdy publication is [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► asking you just tell them how much [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► friend has it's not like they're not [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► gonna find out on March 16th they're all [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► gonna get the machines or I'm gonna fire [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► them up and load the little dinky piece [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► of software that measures the RAM and [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► say and tell us how much ram it has and [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► you know we have a pretty good guess now [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► anyway everyone seems to think it's one [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► gigabyte why not just tell us for sure [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► why I leave this you know what what does [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► Apple gain by obstinately refusing to [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► tell us this when asked don't listen I [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► respect Paige don't advertise don't put [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► it in the presentation but when asked [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► directly by a practicin for some obscure [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► nerdy publication just tell them it's [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► not you know it's not telling us does [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► not make this information not known it's [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► just like a spiteful two-week delay in [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► us finding out for sure and similarly [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► there was a another weird thing where [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► apparently in the press room people were [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► asking about the weight like is this [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► weigh the same as the previous iPad and [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► the Apple people kept saying that it did [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► weigh the same but it doesn't weigh the [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► same [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► I mean on Apple's own speck on that if [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► you were to go to their website I think [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► and look it up you can get a spec that [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► says that it doesn't weigh the same up [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► but in the pressroom people were saying [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► it weigh the same so why would Apple's [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► press people be saying something that's [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► contradicted by their own spec sheets [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► and that and again as soon as people get [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► them they can put them on a scale and [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► it's not like we're not going to know [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► which one weighs more and somehow by [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► Apple not telling us that weighs [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► slightly more than the other one that [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► you know so I was thinking about that [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► one is they could just be mistaken and [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► they didn't know about the weight [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► difference the second one is that there [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► is no real downside for them telling you [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► it weighs the same because telling you [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► weighs the same even if they know it to [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► be not true is good because it deflects [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► the story for the for the publications [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► that don't that aren't read by nerd like [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► USA Today asked at an apple spokesperson [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► does this weigh the same as the iPad 2 [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► and the Apple spokesperson says yes the [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► USA Today person publishes that case [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► that I don't care I asked the Apple [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► representative they said wait that [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► becomes an on point in their stories [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► even like the New York Times The Wall [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► Street Journal if the apple spokesperson [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► say weighs the same maybe maybe Walt [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► Mossberg would be picky about that and [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► sale actually doesn't weigh the same but [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► for a lot of publications I'll just [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► print what Apple tells them so that's [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► upside for Apple because it deflects the [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► story from talking about how this is [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► slightly heavier and if you know and [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► when eventually people get the things in [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► weigh them or they go and look at the [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► spec sheet and see that it's different [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► and they call them on say hey Apple you [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► said these weigh the same Apple said [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► well come on it's like 80 grams it's [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► basically the same and that's true it is [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► basically the same which is why Apple [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► thinks it's a non-story and why they [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► don't want people to talk about it so [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► that could be a slightly evil PR [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► strategy to say look if we just tell [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► them it weighs the same it just makes [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► things easier that the Nerds you want to [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► know we're going to find out anyway and [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► so what and the people who don't know [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► it's basically the same anyway let's not [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► make this a story the other thing was [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► the thickness they in the presentation [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► they showed what the thickness was and [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► you can look up an Apple spec sheet what [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► this because of the iPad 2 was and [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► compare the two numbers but they didn't [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► make a big point out of it in the press [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► room they wouldn't allow any of the [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► press to take out their own iPad 2 as [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► which I'm sure all had and lay them down [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► next to the iPad 3 to do all those [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► pictures like let me take a picture with [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► my iPhone here's the iPad 2 is def ad 3 [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► from the press room you can look at it [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► from the side and see which one is a [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► little bit thicker everyone [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► going to do those pictures once they get [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► their units to do the real reviews Apple [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► I guess didn't want those pictures to [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► happen now and the excuse they gave was [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► like well the iPad 2 looks so much like [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► the iPad 3 and we don't want people [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► taking these things out of the room [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► which I seems like it makes sense it's a [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► good kind of PR II type excuse but if [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► you think about it for a couple seconds [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► just like well maybe if you're inviting [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► press to your events who you think might [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► steal the iPad 3 maybe don't invite [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► those guys next time that's a little bit [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► of a glib answer because you could say [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► well if we knew they were going to steal [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► that we wouldn't invite them but we know [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► we won't find out until the first person [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► steals one and then it's too late so [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► really we would rather not let you have [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► things like that so the test of this [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► will be next year when the iPad whatever [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► the new iPad comes out and it presumably [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► it is thinner than the current one or [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► maybe at least stays the same weight or [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► Apple does have anything to hide about [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► the thickness will then it become [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► acceptable for the press to put their [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► own iPad 3's next to the new ones and [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► take photographs of it as these are all [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► things you can ask Gruber about because [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► he's actually in that room but I'm just [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► going on you know reports that I've read [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► from other people who are in the room [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► but it's just weird Apple PR is weird [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► sometimes they're weird with a purpose I [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► think all the things they're doing here [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► I can imagine [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► reasonable purposes for it and not [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► saying the way it's the same not [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► allowing pictures side-by-side not not [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► telling people the RAM is the toughest [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► one that I had that I can you know [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► figure out and especially since you've [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► doubled the RAM like if it really is 1 [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► gigabyte going up from 512 answer that [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► question it's all there's only upside [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► really I know you don't want to [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► emphasize the RAM but I think just [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► telling publications in the press room [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► is ok you're not offering that [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► information but when they specifically [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► ask for it just tell them the answer [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► it's silly not to we're going to find [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► out as soon as we get the unit's anyway [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► face time versus eyesight did you notice [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► this in the presentation yeah there is [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► an iSight camera specifically something [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► identified as an iSight camera yeah and [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► this is the thing you miss like when I [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► was at work watching the live blogs go [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► by a window on the side these nuances [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► aren't expressed that [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► in one of the transcripts typed through [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► it I sighed and I thought it was funny [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► to use eyesight but when you watch the [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► actual presentation Phil Schiller says I [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► will read his exact words here even [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► though they're a little weird when the [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► camera that gets when when the camera [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► gets of such quality and capability that [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► you're proud to use it as your everyday [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► camera photographs we call it an iSight [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► camera so that sense is in the [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► presentation to explain to people who [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► are paying attention why they're calling [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► is eyesight when previously they were [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► calling you know that they didn't have a [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► name and they were calling things based [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► on so the implication there is that face [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► time means only suitable for video [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► conferencing so we just want to see your [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► face and send it to somebody over a low [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► bandwidth connection you use a FaceTime [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► camera but once the cameras cross a [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► certain threshold of quality that Phil [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► has defined as something you're proud to [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► use is your everyday camera that's [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► there's quite a bit of strange emotional [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► connection put up in there it's not [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► about quality it's about you being proud [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► of it I'm proud to use this as my [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► everyday camera what someone would be [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► proud to use a gigantic iPad as their [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► everyday camera I don't know but at the [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► very least it's clear that once the [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► quality crosses a certain threshold they [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► call it an iSight camera which to me is [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► really weird because the birth of the [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► eyesight brand was in a camera that sets [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► on top of your monitor and faces you for [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► the purpose of video conferencing but [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► now somehow FaceTime is the camera that [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► faces you for the purpose of video [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► conferencing and eyesight is the one on [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► the back of your devices that's the high [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► quality thing that you take videos with [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► and pictures with look bit weird you [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► know and finally I haven't read this yet [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► but I linked it because this stuff is [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► usually pretty good and nerdy and text [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► coverage of the new iPad is filled with [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► specs he for example he lists one [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► gigabyte and speculation and information [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► about the GPU and all sorts of other [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► stuff so I would recommend people read [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► that while they're waiting for their [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► iPad threes to arrive and yes the the [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► marketing name or the AppleCare name or [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► the support name not the marketing and [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► the support name of the iPad is iPad in [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► parentheses third-generation so not very [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► confusing if they really do release one [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► of these every year it will still be [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► very clear which model you have I don't [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► know what the the number comma number [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► version of it the thing is mary's ipad 3 [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► comma one or something who knows [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► so that's all I think I have on the iPad [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► introduction you or your order yours I'm [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► I'm still waffling on that hmm I'm gonna [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► get one probably I guess kind of what [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► I'm waiting for is to see whether I end [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► up going to WWDC because if I go I'd [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► like to use this as my main device I I [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► brought my wife's iPad last year and it [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► worked pretty well for me and it was [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► certainly easier to carry around the [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► MacBook Pro which I also brought so if I [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► go I will want to have my new iPad 3 [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► with me but if I don't go I don't know [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► maybe I'll wait a little bit longer I [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► also don't like to get the first batch [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► of devices there's some sort of problem [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► with them or the screens have some sort [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► of yellowing thing or the home buttons [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► get messed up I just let the early [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► adopters work that I know just get it [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► replaced under warranty it won't be a [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► big deal but I just want the hassle so [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► I'm gonna wait on that when I do get one [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► I'll probably get a 32 gigabyte black [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► Verizon 4G model that is my expectation [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► okay good model yeah that's that seems [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► to be all of our devices in our house [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► are 32 gigs black and if there's 3G on [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► them or any kind of cellular technology [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► its Verizon that's exactly what what we [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► got here there you go good choice yeah I [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► heard Marco getting his now he got the [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► miramare the millionaire model that's [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► what he got that's right [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► the millionaire millionaire model which [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► is basically the the highest end [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► everything max done everything I this is [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► the first one 18 t though he did because [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► where he lives in in Brooklyn ah-ha that [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► apparently service there on AT&T for him [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► is phenomenal I don't understand why he [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► would be using the I I didn't [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► disintegrate any to ask him why would he [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► be using the 4G at home but maybe when [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► he's out about in town it's better for [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► him but I think universally here in the [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► US people people report that Verizon [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► gets better coverage although maybe the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► speeds on 18 T are better but I don't I [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► I don't know if that's the case here's [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► another question that that's come in do [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► you know if people and [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► this doesn't apply to an iPad because [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► you can't do calls on an iPad but do you [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► know if LTE it shouldn't have that [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► limitation for the CDMA users where they [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► can't do data and voice at the same time [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► again I know you don't do this on an [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► iPad but do you know what the status is [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► of that I would assume that limitation [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► is gone okay that was a believe in [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► limitation inheritance CDMA right and [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► will not be present at all on LTE and [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► that's the other thing like the Verizon [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► is like well you probably get better [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► coverage but 18 these speeds are better [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► when you're in some place with good [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► coverage of both but for LTE I don't [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► know what the answer is is Verizon's LTE [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► just as fast as AT&T is assuming same [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► signal strength I don't know I always [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► get Verizon because the whole purpose of [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► having cellular connection is you are [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► away from Wi-Fi and when you're away [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► from wipe I want a connection the most [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► important thing is not the speed of that [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► connection but whether you can get a [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► connection and I do not get good signal [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► from many cell carriers in my house but [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► the only time I ever use 3G on the iPad [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► that we have a 3G or my wife's eyes on [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► is when we are away from our house on [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► vacations come are mostly so we'll buy [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► we'll buy a month of 3G when we go on [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► vacation to the beach or whatever or if [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► we go somewhere I want to use the iPad [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► is like a big GPS or something or [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► getting from the airport to a hotel and [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► you're you know we're in a different [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► state we're nowhere near you know so the [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► coverage at my house is not that big a [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► factor so I just want to have the best [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► odds of wherever we happen to go getting [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► covered and so I'm going with Verizon [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► don't do our second sponsor sure it's [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► Rackspace comm more than a hundred [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► thousand businesses trust Rackspace with [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► their hosting and cloud computing most [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► people think when they think of [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► Rackspace they think okay they have [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► these huge data centers well that's true [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► and you can go and you can get a [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► completely customized dedicated server [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► in there you can get that and you said [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► this I want this much RAM I want this [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► much hard drive I want raid I want [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► whatever and they'll put it in the rack [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► and and they'll they'll do this [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► fanatical support thing that they do [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► where anything you need help with [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► anything you want them to do they go do [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► you want to reboot it they'll reboot it [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► you want to install something I'll do it [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► whatever it is figure out what's wrong [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► with it make it faster that's what [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► people think of all that's true [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► man they've come a long way since then [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► that's that's old-school stuff they've [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► got cloud hosting so you get up and [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► running in minutes they've got you know [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► complete load balancing so that you can [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► spread your application your website [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► whatever it is across tons and tons of [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► the servers in the cloud they've got [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► this beautiful control panel with an API [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► interface that you can script it's [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► scales it's pay-as-you-go all the modern [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► stuff well they also combine these two [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► different things with what they call [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► hybrid hosting you get your dedicated [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► servers for performance intensive apps [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► you get cloud service so that you can [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► scale without paying an arm and a leg [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► unless you need it and they've got RAC [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► connect this seamlessly inner links and [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► interconnects both environments of [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► course all of this is supported the only [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► company out there doing stuff like this [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► and it's a great time to get started [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► with them they let you try it 25 days no [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► risk with their managed cloud server [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► stuff so go to rat it's very important [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► uses URL this supports the show you want [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► to support their show go to Rackspace [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► calm slash 5 by 5 and we love these guys [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► we appreciate their support really great [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► stuff for you go check it out that's it [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► blowing your nose or something no I I [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► was closing browser tabs and by closing [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► them I suddenly made the frontmost tab a [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► video that decided once I'm the [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► frontmost tab I should start playing the [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► video and now I can't find where that [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► video is I see I think it was the [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► presentation video and trade that when [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► you're sitting at a computer all sudden [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► you start to hear audio and it's like [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► which tab is this buried in they usually [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► means I'm on the air yeah it was coming [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► out of luckily I think I was muted so [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► you didn't get to hear alright defo I [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► just turned off my speakers so are you [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► how you using the new Safari by the way [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► I know this is a little off-topic might [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► not be on there but I'm curious to know [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► because you're mentioning tabs are you [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► using the news of the beta of Safari no [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► I'm not using I that I've you know I'm [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► still grousing about five one that came [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► with lion hmmm still suffering through [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► the pee we now need to reload all of [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► your tabs [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► sometimes they announce that sometimes [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► they don't sometimes I'll just be [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► sitting there using something and all of [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► a sudden all of my tabs are reloaded and [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► that makes me very very angry I believe [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► John that there was an update to Safari [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► since the since that came out I know for [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► sure that [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► latest update seems to have addressed [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► that problem it also brings to Safari [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► what I believe is one of the best [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► features of Chrome which is an address [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► bar that doubles as a search bar so that [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► you no longer need to hit command L to [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► get over to the search you just start [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► typing right in the address field and it [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► become it's quite smart and figures [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► things out and knows what you mean [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► you're talking about safari 5 - yeah [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► yeah no I haven't played with that beta [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► but it also has fat tabs [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► yeah I saw Gruber complaining about I [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► see I actually think the fat tabs the [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► only time when the fat tab looks silly [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► is when it's the only tab or maybe if [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► you have tunics always so tab bar though [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► that's not the main problem don't have [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► always show tab bar selected I don't [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► ever have that like I don't want to see [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► the tab bar when there's one tab and I [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► think you know in my in the real Safari [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► in five one three I don't have that [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► checked and when there is one only one [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► URL open there's no tab bar at all so [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► we'll never see one fat tab or one [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► skinny tab this is no tab just five [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► student remove that option to not always [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► show the tab bar uh no well so let's see [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► if we go under the tab options right now [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► it says I I do not I do not see an [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► option there under tabs it says open [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► pages and tabs instead of windows never [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► automatically always there's a checkbox [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► for command click opens a link in a new [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► tab and there's a checkbox that says [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► when a new tab or window opens make it [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► active but I uh I don't see a tab but if [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► I if well and hold on let me verify that [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► I've got another machine here to check [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► the the new one running so that's the [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► current one now the new beta let me get [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► this thing going here you know these [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► these little uh these little errors they [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► really do start up fast don't they so [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► the options on the new the new one are [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► identical yeah I don't see they used to [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► be a thing that said oh you show tab bar [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► yes no and I always turn that off I said [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► of course I don't want to see the tab [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► bar with only one tab so that option is [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► gone and maybe they just changed the [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► behavior in five two so now that it does [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► show the tab it does it I'm not seeing [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► it and and when you open a new window [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► there's no tabs if you hit command T to [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► start a tab [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► you get two tabs one is closed closed [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► one of them though and then they both go [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► away all right oh so that's normal then [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► yeah I've seen the fat tabs the two time [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► I've seen it [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► Mountain Lion mountain line is Safari [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► five - so it has the same behavior III [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► think it is you have just the one or I [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► guess the two tabs there that does look [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► a little silly but really I think it's [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► great it you can see the full titles and [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► they just get smaller and smaller and [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► why would you not want them today you [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► don't want because it means that [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► clicking on the second tab is a longer [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► distance for your cursor to go if you've [TS]