58: No More Numbers For You / The Four Tuners


00:00:00   evacuate evacuate b-b-b evacuate you're [TS]

00:00:06   listening to hypercritical weekly [TS]

00:00:07   talkshow ruminating on exactly what is [TS]

00:00:09   wrong in the world of Apple related [TS]

00:00:12   technologies and businesses nothing is [TS]

00:00:14   so perfect that it can't be obliterated [TS]

00:00:16   by my co-host John siracusa i'm dan [TS]

00:00:20   benjamin today is Friday March 9th 2012 [TS]

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00:00:41   much anything hello john siracusa hello [TS]

00:00:48   dan bentrim how are you doing today [TS]

00:00:50   today's Friday it is an exciting week [TS]

00:00:53   and has been a lot of stuff a lot of [TS]

00:00:56   stuff happened [TS]

00:00:59   that's true anything you want to talk [TS]

00:01:02   about I think there is why why you lower [TS]

00:01:05   volume today I could be louder if you'd [TS]

00:01:08   like oh maybe it might just be my [TS]

00:01:10   computer you're not you haven't changed [TS]

00:01:12   anything on your end not a thing [TS]

00:01:13   but I can I can boost the signal if [TS]

00:01:15   you'd like should I edit this Audi when [TS]

00:01:20   we leave this in it's part of the show [TS]

00:01:21   it's up to you I'm just I like it it's [TS]

00:01:24   real fascinated when things change the [TS]

00:01:28   more the more things change the more [TS]

00:01:29   they stay the same [TS]

00:01:30   alright we got a lot of stuff to get to [TS]

00:01:31   let's do it I'm actually going to start [TS]

00:01:34   with a bunch of follow up on file [TS]

00:01:37   systems I know it usually try to keep my [TS]

00:01:39   topics that might have minority interest [TS]

00:01:41   let's say to two shows or fewer usually [TS]

00:01:44   one show on the topic and then maybe one [TS]

00:01:45   show full of follow-up and then try to [TS]

00:01:47   cut it off kind of like a dip with the [TS]

00:01:49   video game controllers but there's still [TS]

00:01:52   too much you could follow up on the file [TS]

00:01:54   system stuff so yeah we will eventually [TS]

00:01:57   get talking about the iPad don't worry [TS]

00:01:59   but I do want to go through the last [TS]

00:02:03   batch of file system follow-up before I [TS]

00:02:05   get to that I can't believe there was a [TS]

00:02:06   any follow up there was lots lots of [TS]

00:02:11   them alright so first one is from this [TS]

00:02:17   is a email from Adam milky I talked [TS]

00:02:22   about ZFS deduplication I think in the [TS]

00:02:24   last episode and I mentioned the show [TS]

00:02:27   that I didn't know whether it happened [TS]

00:02:28   at the time you did i/o [TS]

00:02:30   or at a later point and it was some job [TS]

00:02:32   that went deduplicated lots of [TS]

00:02:34   enterprise storage products do that [TS]

00:02:36   after the fact deduping well they will [TS]

00:02:38   just crawl over your disk and find the [TS]

00:02:39   blocks that are common and discard all [TS]

00:02:41   but one of them ZFS deduplication [TS]

00:02:44   actually is synchronous so what happens [TS]

00:02:47   when you do the i/o and there's a [TS]

00:02:49   significant memory overhead to it [TS]

00:02:51   because it has to keep track of all the [TS]

00:02:53   different check sums and everything to [TS]

00:02:55   be able to quickly determine if there [TS]

00:02:56   are duplicates and it happens [TS]

00:02:59   differently the rationale given on on [TS]

00:03:01   the on the blog entry area this is that [TS]

00:03:05   they assume that CPUs have many cores [TS]

00:03:08   and the CPU cost of searching through [TS]

00:03:10   that table and finding people you get [TS]

00:03:11   blocks [TS]

00:03:13   they'll have plenty time to do that [TS]

00:03:14   because IO is always going to be much [TS]

00:03:16   slower than CPU and then the number of [TS]

00:03:18   CPU cores keeps proliferating and he [TS]

00:03:21   also had a point about that Solaris has [TS]

00:03:25   a sort of time machine like mechanism [TS]

00:03:27   that uses ZFS the last shot we talked [TS]

00:03:29   about how Time Machine could be made [TS]

00:03:30   more efficient by using some of the [TS]

00:03:32   features of ZFS and Oracle has done [TS]

00:03:35   something very similar to that they have [TS]

00:03:36   something they call time slider I've [TS]

00:03:38   linked it in the show notes that is a [TS]

00:03:41   typical kind of Unix Linux II interface [TS]

00:03:44   so there's no big fancy starfield and [TS]

00:03:46   windows going back into the distance but [TS]

00:03:47   it's like a slider control for going [TS]

00:03:49   back in time to look at all of your [TS]

00:03:51   different files and it's built on ZFS [TS]

00:03:52   snapshots and all the stuff we talked [TS]

00:03:54   about on the last show we also discussed [TS]

00:03:59   on the last show in the context of SSDs [TS]

00:04:02   the idea of this distinction we have [TS]

00:04:05   between memory and disk and how as disks [TS]

00:04:08   stop becoming actual spinning disks and [TS]

00:04:11   start becoming memory chips how they're [TS]

00:04:13   the storage hierarchy could be unified [TS]

00:04:16   into one model and I mentioned this [TS]

00:04:19   wasn't a new idea and Hugh Fischer wrote [TS]

00:04:21   to tell me that a specific instance of [TS]

00:04:23   this being done in the past in the 70s [TS]

00:04:28   IBM developed a series of machines and I [TS]

00:04:32   think they're still selling them called [TS]

00:04:33   system 38 and the as400 line I've only [TS]

00:04:36   ever heard of as400 system 38 looks [TS]

00:04:37   vaguely familiar [TS]

00:04:39   they do do this that have a unified [TS]

00:04:41   memory filesystem type of model so there [TS]

00:04:45   you go it's happening it's happening [TS]

00:04:47   long ago and it continues to happen but [TS]

00:04:49   certainly not in the PC space [TS]

00:04:51   Sean Cohen writes in that palm OS of all [TS]

00:04:54   things actually had a unified memory [TS]

00:04:55   model back in 1.0 mostly because they [TS]

00:04:59   all they had was Ram this is from the B [TS]

00:05:02   palm wiki palm OS 1.0 does not [TS]

00:05:05   differentiate between RAM and filesystem [TS]

00:05:06   storage applications are installed [TS]

00:05:07   directly into RAM and executed in place [TS]

00:05:10   so that's that's neat that actually kind [TS]

00:05:13   of went away when pomalyst 4.0 was [TS]

00:05:15   introduced and it started to look more [TS]

00:05:16   like a file system in RAM there was also [TS]

00:05:18   ROM in the original palm you don't hear [TS]

00:05:20   much about ROM these days but the [TS]

00:05:22   original Mac and many older computers [TS]

00:05:24   had some read-only chips they can [TS]

00:05:27   like based version of the operating [TS]

00:05:28   system or some routines that are always [TS]

00:05:30   going to be used by the operon system [TS]

00:05:32   just so they'd have to take up precious [TS]

00:05:33   ram with that information because the [TS]

00:05:35   RAM was more expensive than Rome ah Rick [TS]

00:05:40   Faribault writes to tell me that modern [TS]

00:05:43   hard disk drives do have their own error [TS]

00:05:46   correcting mechanism built into them so [TS]

00:05:48   they use a ECC fields on the sectors on [TS]

00:05:50   the disk and try to detect and correct [TS]

00:05:53   errors of various kinds he apparently [TS]

00:05:57   began his career in the 70s at IBM and [TS]

00:06:00   worked on the disk drive group worked on [TS]

00:06:02   the Winchester family of drives remember [TS]

00:06:04   that name from Shirley sure of course [TS]

00:06:07   yeah uh and he worked on making disk [TS]

00:06:10   drives work with the IBM 370 / 135 I [TS]

00:06:14   love IBM's product names it's always [TS]

00:06:15   letter a number / other letter and [TS]

00:06:17   number Oh [TS]

00:06:19   he also says his son listens to the show [TS]

00:06:21   so hello Rick son your dad is pretty [TS]

00:06:23   cool [TS]

00:06:27   Andrew Richard pointed me to a talk by [TS]

00:06:31   Abby Miller of Oracle at the Linux conf [TS]

00:06:34   au the Australian Linux conference in [TS]

00:06:36   2012 in January this is a very recent [TS]

00:06:38   talk the title of the talk was I can't [TS]

00:06:42   believe this is butter at or btrfs but [TS]

00:06:45   it's not btrfs it's butter FS but I keep [TS]

00:06:47   saying BTR I don't feel so bad about [TS]

00:06:48   saying btrfs because I watched this [TS]

00:06:50   video and in the video the presenter [TS]

00:06:53   frequently is typing at the command line [TS]

00:06:54   and the command line tool for fiddling [TS]

00:06:57   with butter FS is called btrfs so he's [TS]

00:07:01   speaking as he's typing trying to say [TS]

00:07:03   okay and I'll just type it put his buddy [TS]

00:07:05   you think he would say I'll just type [TS]

00:07:06   butter FS space list space - whatever [TS]

00:07:10   you know is but he says btrfs because [TS]

00:07:13   he's actually typed in the letters BTR [TS]

00:07:14   you can't bring himself to say butter so [TS]

00:07:16   i don't feel so bad about flubbing the [TS]

00:07:18   name so much but the reason I bring up [TS]

00:07:20   this video and it's in the show notes is [TS]

00:07:21   one I think it's pretty neat and the guy [TS]

00:07:23   is this has a fun personality it's not a [TS]

00:07:28   very dry presentation and at the end of [TS]

00:07:31   it they did something that I had never [TS]

00:07:32   heard of that I thought was a phrase [TS]

00:07:35   that I can't use in this program but [TS]

00:07:37   let's say pretty neat [TS]

00:07:39   he had an ext2 file system and he said [TS]

00:07:43   I'm going to show you how you can [TS]

00:07:44   convert this to butter FS and the way [TS]

00:07:47   the conversion works he didn't go into [TS]

00:07:49   technical details so I'm going to make [TS]

00:07:50   some speculation about the actual under [TS]

00:07:51   the technical underpinnings but the the [TS]

00:07:53   end effect is what he demonstrated the [TS]

00:07:56   the way it does this is it initializes a [TS]

00:08:00   BTR but RFS file system on top of your [TS]

00:08:03   existing the xt2 file system by making [TS]

00:08:07   all the metadata structures to point to [TS]

00:08:08   the data on disk but the data that it [TS]

00:08:10   points to is all the data where it [TS]

00:08:12   existed in ext2 file system so it [TS]

00:08:14   doesn't modify your ext2 file system at [TS]

00:08:16   all it just makes a bunch of new [TS]

00:08:18   metadata that says ok this is over here [TS]

00:08:20   that's over there this piece of this [TS]

00:08:21   files over here this is the information [TS]

00:08:22   about this file and when it's done doing [TS]

00:08:26   that and you reboot and then you reboot [TS]

00:08:29   to tell you at the edit the HDFS tab and [TS]

00:08:32   tell it that your file system is now but [TS]

00:08:34   er FS it's not ext2 anymore because had [TS]

00:08:36   already written information so you can [TS]

00:08:37   boot from this and when you boot it [TS]

00:08:38   looks like you have a brand new but er [TS]

00:08:41   FS file system with a snapshot and the [TS]

00:08:44   snapshot points to the exact state it [TS]

00:08:46   was before you did the conversion and [TS]

00:08:50   you know and then he you know he [TS]

00:08:52   installed a bunch of stuff and showed [TS]

00:08:53   how because this is butter FS we can [TS]

00:08:54   roll back because we have a snapshot and [TS]

00:08:56   all those other stuff but what you can [TS]

00:08:58   actually do is roll back to the very [TS]

00:09:00   first snapshot and in the very first [TS]

00:09:02   snapshot your file system was the XD to [TS]

00:09:04   us you can roll it back to the exact [TS]

00:09:07   point at which you converted the volume [TS]

00:09:08   and it will become an ext to file system [TS]

00:09:11   again it doesn't actually do this in the [TS]

00:09:13   video but the point is that you've [TS]

00:09:16   non-destructively changed your entire [TS]

00:09:18   file system and the reason you can do [TS]

00:09:20   that of course is because but our FS is [TS]

00:09:22   copy and write is never going to [TS]

00:09:23   overwrite the the blocks that make up [TS]

00:09:26   that ext2 file system leaves all of it [TS]

00:09:28   exactly as it is on the disk and just [TS]

00:09:29   writes new data to different locations [TS]

00:09:31   and so it's it's kind of you know once [TS]

00:09:35   you go back to the very very last nap [TS]

00:09:36   shot and you remove all the all the [TS]

00:09:38   butter FS stuff what you're left with is [TS]

00:09:39   a valid ext to volume that you can boot [TS]

00:09:42   from I thought that was amazing and a [TS]

00:09:44   really fun consequence of copy and write [TS]

00:09:46   like look we're not actually going to [TS]

00:09:48   modify any of your data and suddenly one [TS]

00:09:50   file system can look like it's another [TS]

00:09:53   one [TS]

00:09:53   because we will just point to all the [TS]

00:09:55   same data in the same location so that [TS]

00:09:57   was cool so thank you Andrew for [TS]

00:10:00   pointing me to a video [TS]

00:10:02   Boyd waters asks if I ever played with [TS]

00:10:05   FreeBSD s dragonfly hammer file system [TS]

00:10:08   I've heard of it I have not ever read [TS]

00:10:10   much about it I put the link in the show [TS]

00:10:12   notes to the page on the dragonfly bsd [TS]

00:10:14   org site that describes it it has a lot [TS]

00:10:19   of the similar features that we've been [TS]

00:10:20   talking about snapshots file system [TS]

00:10:22   multi volume file systems integrity [TS]

00:10:26   checking mirroring a file history all [TS]

00:10:31   the things you would expect it doesn't I [TS]

00:10:32   didn't look into the tech specs enough I [TS]

00:10:34   assume it's kind of like a copy-on-write [TS]

00:10:35   buzzes and because that's the only [TS]

00:10:36   reasonable way to support all these [TS]

00:10:38   features but it didn't say explicitly [TS]

00:10:40   but that is another option of the free [TS]

00:10:42   option for if you're trying to set up a [TS]

00:10:44   sort of home storage area network with [TS]

00:10:47   multiple volumes and you want it to be [TS]

00:10:49   reliable and redundant take a look at [TS]

00:10:52   dragonfly bsd s hammer filesystem were [TS]

00:10:56   you a big freebsd user you never never [TS]

00:10:59   never I mean at least love FreeBSD we [TS]

00:11:02   used to use that for all of our non [TS]

00:11:04   Solaris four systems like four one two [TS]

00:11:09   four one three four one two four time [TS]

00:11:11   period before when they were starting to [TS]

00:11:13   switch the Solaris to remember that I do [TS]

00:11:17   not remember that but we're all using [TS]

00:11:18   France beat FreeBSD now and if there are [TS]

00:11:20   then we know it or not underneath there [TS]

00:11:22   a lot of the same code whether you like [TS]

00:11:24   it or not yeah Steve Schreiber writes in [TS]

00:11:28   to tell me that he listened he listened [TS]

00:11:30   to the whole show by file systems and [TS]

00:11:32   got all upset about HFS boss the but [TS]

00:11:34   then he said he we never told him what [TS]

00:11:36   steps we take to mitigate this problem [TS]

00:11:38   of HFS getting corrupted and stuff like [TS]

00:11:41   that so for all people who are wondering [TS]

00:11:43   what should I do about it now that [TS]

00:11:44   you've heard all these bad things but [TS]

00:11:45   HFS+ I would direct everyone to episode [TS]

00:11:48   number two hyper critical way back when [TS]

00:11:50   called backup vortex the summary of the [TS]

00:11:53   advice in there is have multiple backups [TS]

00:11:56   in different physical locations [TS]

00:11:58   I do time machine to onedrive SuperDuper [TS]

00:12:00   to another plus I use a cloud backup [TS]

00:12:02   service I use Backblaze for one of my [TS]

00:12:04   computers and use CrashPlan for the [TS]

00:12:06   other [TS]

00:12:06   that takes care of having your data [TS]

00:12:08   backed up for combating H of s file [TS]

00:12:12   system corruption I run Disk Utility [TS]

00:12:16   pretty regularly not on a fixed schedule [TS]

00:12:18   or anything but every once in a while [TS]

00:12:21   when I get that feeling I'm not going to [TS]

00:12:22   be in front of the computer for a while [TS]

00:12:23   I will fire up Disk Utility and run [TS]

00:12:26   repair disk and I'll run repair disk on [TS]

00:12:28   my time machine volume I'll run it on my [TS]

00:12:29   SuperDuper volume and then I'll run [TS]

00:12:31   verify on my boot volume and verify [TS]

00:12:33   finds an error I'll reboot from one of [TS]

00:12:34   the other ones and repaired just doing [TS]

00:12:37   that you know people ask is that [TS]

00:12:38   something you should do regularly I [TS]

00:12:39   wouldn't do it every day or maybe not [TS]

00:12:42   even every week because it is highly i/o [TS]

00:12:43   intensive and you could be you know [TS]

00:12:44   wearing out here drive with all this [TS]

00:12:46   extra i/o and it takes forever and [TS]

00:12:48   especially when you do your boot disk it [TS]

00:12:50   locks things up for a long time [TS]

00:12:52   but I would put that as one of your [TS]

00:12:54   regular maintenance things unlike some [TS]

00:12:56   voodoo like resetting your pee Ram or [TS]

00:12:58   repairing permissions or stuff like that [TS]

00:13:00   like you want this to find no errors you [TS]

00:13:02   want this to be a no op but I suggest [TS]

00:13:04   running it because pretty frequently I [TS]

00:13:06   run it and it finds a little problem and [TS]

00:13:08   fixes it and it's much better to fix [TS]

00:13:09   those little things as you go than to [TS]

00:13:12   wait until they accumulate and maybe [TS]

00:13:14   they can't be repaired or I've caused [TS]

00:13:16   some problem already and of course what [TS]

00:13:19   can I do about the bits actually [TS]

00:13:20   flipping on the disk because of cosmic [TS]

00:13:21   rays or other you know or just things [TS]

00:13:24   going bad it's not much I can do about [TS]

00:13:25   that it's not much anyone can do about [TS]

00:13:27   that [TS]

00:13:27   until we get the quote-unquote end end [TS]

00:13:30   data integrity oh and speaking of Rick [TS]

00:13:34   Faribault's comments about the the ECC [TS]

00:13:36   things on drives that's all true with it [TS]

00:13:38   but one of the points of ZFS is that its [TS]

00:13:40   end-to-end data integrity that's their [TS]

00:13:41   slogan which means that all that the the [TS]

00:13:45   error correcting on the drive itself [TS]

00:13:46   means is that the drive can tell well I [TS]

00:13:48   was presented with this data and I wrote [TS]

00:13:51   it to disk and I can try to be sure [TS]

00:13:53   about that but there can be bugs in [TS]

00:13:55   other layers of the storage stacked like [TS]

00:13:56   for example just the disk controller or [TS]

00:13:58   a crimped SATA cable or anything like [TS]

00:14:00   that [TS]

00:14:01   that will affect what appears to the [TS]

00:14:02   drive so if bad data gets the drive and [TS]

00:14:05   the drive dutifully records that bad [TS]

00:14:07   data it's that's not helpful to you so [TS]

00:14:09   ZFS is trying to say if there's any [TS]

00:14:11   problem anywhere in the chain of the [TS]

00:14:13   storage stack we will detect it that's [TS]

00:14:14   the intent data integrity promise of ZFS [TS]

00:14:16   so that's why I responded him and said [TS]

00:14:18   that the error correcting codes on [TS]

00:14:20   this drives are good but not sufficient [TS]

00:14:23   to ensure that your data actually is [TS]

00:14:25   what you expected to be all right that [TS]

00:14:27   was pretty quick but that was the file [TS]

00:14:28   system follow-up I had four and [TS]

00:14:31   hopefully we the last of it [TS]

00:14:34   it's not so bad yeah that's actually [TS]

00:14:38   some of the shortest follow-up and maybe [TS]

00:14:39   you've ever done kudos a lot of entries [TS]

00:14:41   but I went through it quickly I think so [TS]

00:14:45   ready to talk about the Apple event I [TS]

00:14:48   would love to talk about this event did [TS]

00:14:50   you I know that you have a people may [TS]

00:14:52   not realize this but you are neither [TS]

00:14:54   full-time doing this show nor are you [TS]

00:14:57   full time as a writer for four Ars [TS]

00:15:00   Technica you are full time in a mystery [TS]

00:15:02   company you're a big big come your [TS]

00:15:04   company man corporate stooge and dude [TS]

00:15:07   well I'm it's the polite term that's the [TS]

00:15:11   plight when I don't know that he'd be [TS]

00:15:12   impolite one oh you go to your you're a [TS]

00:15:14   working stiff stiff isn't it's not [TS]

00:15:17   getting better okay yet so and so how [TS]

00:15:20   did you see did you watch it when you [TS]

00:15:22   got home were you there were you [TS]

00:15:23   following along online did your boss [TS]

00:15:24   know you were doing this I do wonder [TS]

00:15:27   though sometimes if people assume that I [TS]

00:15:28   have three full time jobs or two full [TS]

00:15:30   time jobs is even two of those it seems [TS]

00:15:32   like look how could you possibly I don't [TS]

00:15:33   know anyway yes are you right that's not [TS]

00:15:35   I was at work during the day [TS]

00:15:37   I followed along tangentially in the [TS]

00:15:39   live blogs you know like the little [TS]

00:15:40   streaming thing of text but I didn't get [TS]

00:15:42   to actually watch the video until I came [TS]

00:15:44   home and the kids were in bed and so on [TS]

00:15:46   and so forth [TS]

00:15:47   so that that's how I watched but getting [TS]

00:15:51   the news is enough you know and speaking [TS]

00:15:53   of the video but a lot of people have [TS]

00:15:54   asked that I tweeted several times about [TS]

00:15:57   my trials and tribulations trying to get [TS]

00:16:00   a high quality version of the video [TS]

00:16:03   because Apple will post it on its [TS]

00:16:05   website but I usually put like a web [TS]

00:16:06   friendly bird and it's not so big and [TS]

00:16:08   and sometimes they have the super ultra [TS]

00:16:10   high def high quality version hiding [TS]

00:16:13   somewhere and I always try to ferret it [TS]

00:16:15   out so I put links in the show notes to [TS]

00:16:19   the embedded video on Apple's website if [TS]

00:16:21   you haven't seen this presentation and [TS]

00:16:22   you want to watch it you can just go and [TS]

00:16:23   it's on the website you can watch it if [TS]

00:16:25   you want a higher definition version of [TS]

00:16:27   it and you want to be able to download [TS]

00:16:28   it not just stream it in your browser [TS]

00:16:30   Apple has video podcast [TS]

00:16:34   feeds for its keynote presentations and [TS]

00:16:38   they recently reintroduced in HD one so [TS]

00:16:40   I provided a link to the Apple keynotes [TS]

00:16:43   HD video podcast feed it's still not as [TS]

00:16:47   high-quality as occasionally you can [TS]

00:16:48   find when they're like streaming it live [TS]

00:16:50   and you can you know dig into the [TS]

00:16:51   QuickTime files and find the actual [TS]

00:16:54   things that they're referencing in the [TS]

00:16:55   CDN and pull down the dot TS files then [TS]

00:16:58   cat them together there's a whole I've [TS]

00:17:00   done some crazy things because I like to [TS]

00:17:02   have high quality archived version of [TS]

00:17:03   this video but the HD video feed is what [TS]

00:17:06   I suggest if you want to just have a [TS]

00:17:07   nice downloadable copy that you can [TS]

00:17:08   scrub around and peek it stuff and [TS]

00:17:12   before we talk about the products in it [TS]

00:17:14   is this was this the first major product [TS]

00:17:17   announcement without Steve being there I [TS]

00:17:18   can't I don't remember anymore well then [TS]

00:17:20   now I mean major in the sense that it [TS]

00:17:23   was new I I guess so I mean there was [TS]

00:17:25   the iPhone 4s wasn't that announced [TS]

00:17:28   while he was still alive and and toward [TS]

00:17:31   the end there my memory so bad I don't [TS]

00:17:33   know but did one of the things I noted [TS]

00:17:35   it from watching in his house you know [TS]

00:17:37   is the first time it struck me about how [TS]

00:17:39   the presentation is different with Steve [TS]

00:17:41   not here and the main difference was [TS]

00:17:43   that I'll be his portions of the keynote [TS]

00:17:49   presentations were imbued with his [TS]

00:17:52   personality that's true of all the [TS]

00:17:53   presenters out there it's just that his [TS]

00:17:56   personality was different than their so [TS]

00:17:57   you know Phil Schiller his personality [TS]

00:17:59   is kind of you know goofy and fun and [TS]

00:18:01   he's always been like that in his [TS]

00:18:02   section of the presentation is like that [TS]

00:18:04   and Tim Cook is very professional and [TS]

00:18:08   he's all business and he's very serious [TS]

00:18:09   and he's you know intense when he talks [TS]

00:18:12   about the stuff that he's going to talk [TS]

00:18:14   about and now Tim Cook has taken over a [TS]

00:18:17   lot of the same stuff the jobs has done [TS]

00:18:18   including the ending thing where he [TS]

00:18:20   comes back on stage and puts the palms [TS]

00:18:22   of his hands together and says something [TS]

00:18:24   meaningful about the company as a whole [TS]

00:18:27   the thing I really missed about jobs [TS]

00:18:29   being there is that he was always just [TS]

00:18:32   so kind of snarky about competitors like [TS]

00:18:36   there was never there was never the [TS]

00:18:38   moment in the presentation where he's [TS]

00:18:41   got some formal formal things where he's [TS]

00:18:42   talking about the slides and you know a [TS]

00:18:43   great display and we really think this [TS]

00:18:45   is a great blah blah and there's always [TS]

00:18:47   that part [TS]

00:18:48   where he goes let these competitors [TS]

00:18:49   things that crap I mean he doesn't say [TS]

00:18:51   that but like his tone of voice that's [TS]

00:18:53   like hey they're doing this thing forget [TS]

00:18:55   it you know he always wants to jab the [TS]

00:18:57   other guys he's always wants to get in [TS]

00:18:59   that little thing there and it was like [TS]

00:19:00   peeking underneath the the the polished [TS]

00:19:03   presentation to the guy who's just got a [TS]

00:19:07   chip on his shoulder or just it is [TS]

00:19:09   things to stuff is so much better than [TS]

00:19:10   all the guys mad they even exist and no [TS]

00:19:13   one in the current lineup of presenters [TS]

00:19:15   has a personality that's like that or if [TS]

00:19:18   they do they don't let it show on stage [TS]

00:19:19   and one of the one of the reasons Jobs [TS]

00:19:21   did is because who's gonna yell at him [TS]

00:19:23   like who's gonna complain about this [TS]

00:19:25   little unprofessional outburst same [TS]

00:19:26   thing on earnings calls when jobs is on [TS]

00:19:27   earnings calls everyone else is so [TS]

00:19:29   controlled and careful on earnings calls [TS]

00:19:30   but occasionally you could get jobs to [TS]

00:19:31   go off on some sort of little rant and [TS]

00:19:33   say something sort of not in the PR [TS]

00:19:37   Handbook or a little bit too revealing [TS]

00:19:39   or a little bit childish or vindictive [TS]

00:19:44   nobody can be relied upon to be like [TS]

00:19:47   that in Apple presentations anymore [TS]

00:19:49   everyone is still very professional the [TS]

00:19:50   closest you get is like you know Phil [TS]

00:19:52   Phil's just I don't think that's Phil's [TS]

00:19:53   personality period or if it is it's [TS]

00:19:55   totally his personality in private but [TS]

00:19:57   like when Phil Schiller was demoing the [TS]

00:19:59   iPads connecting together with Bluetooth [TS]

00:20:01   and having a GarageBand thing with four [TS]

00:20:03   people jamming together Phil at the end [TS]

00:20:05   is like I just wanted that guy at the [TS]

00:20:06   end to take his iPad and smash it on the [TS]

00:20:08   ground like you're smashing a guitar you [TS]

00:20:10   know that's as close as you'll get to [TS]

00:20:12   have something sort of off script alone [TS]

00:20:14   sir that was scripted too but you know [TS]

00:20:16   someone's personality showing through [TS]

00:20:18   but that's a very different kind of [TS]

00:20:20   personality than jobs and I don't see [TS]

00:20:22   Tim Cook Tim Cook will tell you how [TS]

00:20:24   everything is doing wonderful and how [TS]

00:20:26   how it's better than what the [TS]

00:20:27   competitors are doing but not in it in a [TS]

00:20:29   childish taunting way and a little bit [TS]

00:20:32   of child is taunting is fun so I missed [TS]

00:20:34   that and I miss Steve ikg healing the [TS]

00:20:37   chatroom points out the Forrestal has a [TS]

00:20:39   little bit of that you can help work [TS]

00:20:40   stalls got a little bit of a an attitude [TS]

00:20:42   and wants to slam the other guy's a [TS]

00:20:45   Forrestal gets gets a lot of I don't you [TS]

00:20:50   say bad press but a lot of people say [TS]

00:20:51   he's just trying to be a little Steve [TS]

00:20:52   like he's imitating his personality he's [TS]

00:20:55   looked at what Steve did and he wants to [TS]

00:20:57   be like him I don't I don't know enough [TS]

00:21:00   to know that's the case I'm willing to [TS]

00:21:01   say that [TS]

00:21:01   it just so happens that forestalls [TS]

00:21:03   personality is very similar to jobs its [TS]

00:21:05   personality and he's not doing an [TS]

00:21:07   imitation or trying to is just being [TS]

00:21:10   himself and and his personality is [TS]

00:21:13   closer to what Steve was like but he [TS]

00:21:15   wasn't on stage people saying where's [TS]

00:21:16   Forrestal don't worry when I OS X is [TS]

00:21:18   announced he'll be there you'll see [TS]

00:21:19   plenty of for us though so enough [TS]

00:21:23   meta-commentary it's perfect time after [TS]

00:21:26   your metaphor for sponsor good idea [TS]

00:21:28   because you nailed it twenty minutes [TS]

00:21:30   you've got this down it's like you're a [TS]

00:21:31   scientist I'm a machine you are your [TS]

00:21:33   machine harvest it's our first sponsor [TS]

00:21:37   it's a painless time tracking and [TS]

00:21:38   invoicing application some of the most [TS]

00:21:41   innovative teams in over 100 countries [TS]

00:21:43   use this we use it happy cog uses it you [TS]

00:21:46   heard of them you ever heard of [TS]

00:21:47   Volkswagen they use it and it will use [TS]

00:21:51   it because it's great it's the simple [TS]

00:21:53   reason why and I want you guys to try it [TS]

00:21:54   they just came out I mean you can even [TS]

00:21:56   first of all before I tell you what they [TS]

00:21:57   just came out with you can you can use [TS]

00:21:59   this on the web I mean that's really how [TS]

00:22:00   they started they were a website but [TS]

00:22:02   they've got an iPhone app I'm going to [TS]

00:22:03   Android up and they've got a brand new [TS]

00:22:05   native Mac App harvest format so you can [TS]

00:22:08   track the time right from your desktop [TS]

00:22:10   so here's the here's the thing you sit [TS]

00:22:11   down you start working and then you know [TS]

00:22:14   what a client comes in the office you [TS]

00:22:16   get up you walk out yeah oh man I forgot [TS]

00:22:17   forgot to stop because there's this [TS]

00:22:20   global hotkey where you start recording [TS]

00:22:22   when you're tracking your time right you [TS]

00:22:24   forgot to hit stop you come back your [TS]

00:22:25   desk like great now how am I gonna fit [TS]

00:22:27   it's smart and it gets it it knows what [TS]

00:22:29   you're trying to do it knows your [TS]

00:22:31   machine was idle it can take away the [TS]

00:22:33   idle time so you don't accidentally over [TS]

00:22:35   bill your client and of course you can [TS]

00:22:37   switch back to your browser and get [TS]

00:22:38   features like invoicing visual time [TS]

00:22:40   stuff the project budget reports here's [TS]

00:22:43   the thing you go in there you get a 30 [TS]

00:22:45   day trial it's free you don't give them [TS]

00:22:47   your credit card you don't give them [TS]

00:22:48   anything you just create a sign-in and [TS]

00:22:50   you're in and you're using but if you go [TS]

00:22:51   to get harvest calm slash 5x5 it's very [TS]

00:22:55   important very important to use that URL [TS]

00:22:57   after your trial period here's a coupon [TS]

00:23:01   code 50% off your first month coupon [TS]

00:23:03   code is five by five very important so I [TS]

00:23:07   offer expires April 21st I'd really love [TS]

00:23:10   for you guys to try this out we use this [TS]

00:23:11   app and it really is great and proud to [TS]

00:23:13   have these guys as a spawn [TS]

00:23:14   get harvest calm such 5:05 the last week [TS]

00:23:22   talked about what we thought our would [TS]

00:23:26   be in the presentation yes and I think I [TS]

00:23:30   did pretty darn well considering my [TS]

00:23:32   complete lack of inside info I guess I [TS]

00:23:35   was a little bit cheating by being close [TS]

00:23:36   to the event so let's go over some of [TS]

00:23:40   the things I said last week you asked [TS]

00:23:42   about the Apple TV that I think there [TS]

00:23:43   would be something else something not [TS]

00:23:46   alluded to on the invitation [TS]

00:23:48   specifically about a TV thing I thought [TS]

00:23:50   the emphasis would be on the iPad and if [TS]

00:23:52   they had anything about Apple TV would [TS]

00:23:54   just be a new one of those little black [TS]

00:23:55   boxes with bumps specks and maybe some [TS]

00:23:57   1080p content to play on it and lo and [TS]

00:23:59   behold that's what we got a new black [TS]

00:24:01   box 1080p support and as I think I've [TS]

00:24:05   said on past shows I was gonna wait to [TS]

00:24:07   get an Apple TV until the new one came [TS]

00:24:08   out the no one is out I ordered one it [TS]

00:24:10   will be coming on 16th now 10 10 were [TS]

00:24:13   you were you specifically waiting for [TS]

00:24:15   1080p or you were just you were just [TS]

00:24:17   hopeful or you just said you know what [TS]

00:24:19   if I if I get a new one now I know this [TS]

00:24:22   will be what they're going with why why [TS]

00:24:23   now why wait I was not going to buy one [TS]

00:24:26   that only did 720 because I my [TS]

00:24:28   televisions are all 1080p why would I [TS]

00:24:30   buy something like that 720 I wanted as [TS]

00:24:34   I also wanted as a Netflix box because [TS]

00:24:36   well Netflix doesn't even scream 1080p I [TS]

00:24:38   don't think anyway it's just on [TS]

00:24:39   principle why would I ever buy something [TS]

00:24:41   doesn't do 1080p I don't think it's out [TS]

00:24:43   of the realm like even the cheapest [TS]

00:24:45   Costco you know television sets [TS]

00:24:48   bargain basement things do 1080p these [TS]

00:24:51   days there's no excuse for something not [TS]

00:24:53   to do 1080 subs no I was never gonna buy [TS]

00:24:55   a 720 only Apple TV I really hope they [TS]

00:24:59   would add a Bluetooth remote they didn't [TS]

00:25:01   but the up-res stuff is enough for me so [TS]

00:25:03   I ballin and I plan to use it as a [TS]

00:25:06   Netflix box basically because I have so [TS]

00:25:08   many things that stream Netflix but this [TS]

00:25:10   one has no fans in it and the TiVo the [TS]

00:25:13   TiVo Netflix streaming I was now [TS]

00:25:15   unusable for me because it's just so [TS]

00:25:18   slow and unreliable and crashy so I [TS]

00:25:20   would like to be able to stream Netflix [TS]

00:25:22   without turning on the ps3 and I use the [TS]

00:25:24   Apple TV do then and now I can finally [TS]

00:25:26   do airplay stuff and also the [TS]

00:25:28   things that you get with the appellee [TS]

00:25:29   view that I thought were neat but [TS]

00:25:30   wouldn't be reason for me to buy it [TS]

00:25:32   alone something John our friend John [TS]

00:25:33   Gruber pointed out is that you can now [TS]

00:25:35   sign up for Netflix all on the Apple TV [TS]

00:25:39   that you're in the past you have to go [TS]

00:25:41   to their website sign up create it and [TS]

00:25:42   then you'd go and you take your username [TS]

00:25:44   and password go to the Apple TV enter it [TS]

00:25:47   in there you no longer have to do that [TS]

00:25:48   you can create your account and my [TS]

00:25:50   understanding is that it actually will [TS]

00:25:52   bill you through your iTunes account [TS]

00:25:53   that you're not it's it's not like [TS]

00:25:56   you're now going to get a separate bill [TS]

00:25:57   that Netflix is billing through that and [TS]

00:25:59   that you can do the same thing for those [TS]

00:26:01   of us who are baseball fans you can do [TS]

00:26:04   the same thing with the MLB at bat and I [TS]

00:26:06   believe there's a couple other [TS]

00:26:07   subscription services that you can now [TS]

00:26:08   access and sign up right through the [TS]

00:26:11   Apple TV and have billed through your [TS]

00:26:13   iTunes account can you imagine what kind [TS]

00:26:15   of deal Apple must be getting for [TS]

00:26:16   Netflix like what cut of the of the [TS]

00:26:19   subscriptions or some sort of per [TS]

00:26:21   customer fee because man like Netflix is [TS]

00:26:24   asking Apple I know you have your own [TS]

00:26:26   service where you you know provide video [TS]

00:26:29   for money over this box so we'd like to [TS]

00:26:31   be on there too and you know customers [TS]

00:26:32   like us so can we get on your thing and [TS]

00:26:34   use your billing system because it [TS]

00:26:35   really reduces friction Apple Ike all [TS]

00:26:38   right but we're going to take who knows [TS]

00:26:40   what that business deal is but I'm [TS]

00:26:41   Netflix is getting the short end of that [TS]

00:26:43   it monetarily but it's still probably [TS]

00:26:45   worth it to them to get access to those [TS]

00:26:47   customers I definitely think and I think [TS]

00:26:49   it I think Apple should be very pleased [TS]

00:26:52   whether they are on the better end of [TS]

00:26:55   that deal or not simply because there [TS]

00:26:57   are people like you who you know for [TS]

00:27:00   whom Netflix is a huge selling point in [TS]

00:27:02   fact we have we have two Apple TV's [TS]

00:27:05   right now and one of them is is pretty [TS]

00:27:08   much dedicated just for my kid to watch [TS]

00:27:10   the Netflix stuff on it like that's it [TS]

00:27:12   is a Netflix box for that for that room [TS]

00:27:14   and no fans no fans it doesn't even get [TS]

00:27:18   warm and I'll tell you what else the [TS]

00:27:21   airplay you're really going to enjoy [TS]

00:27:24   airplay with games if because you can [TS]

00:27:27   you can simply project your games right [TS]

00:27:30   up there on the screen now there's a [TS]

00:27:32   little bit of a delay in a lag but if [TS]

00:27:34   you've ever had your kid wanting to [TS]

00:27:35   watch you play a game like maybe the [TS]

00:27:36   game is too advanced for your kid [TS]

00:27:38   although that that seems reverse mostly [TS]

00:27:41   kids are better and stuff but there's a [TS]

00:27:43   few games that I have that my [TS]

00:27:44   four-year-old likes to watch me play as [TS]

00:27:46   opposed to playing himself you just put [TS]

00:27:48   those right on the TV you can sit next [TS]

00:27:49   and watch it's great [TS]

00:27:50   I think I'll mostly try using it for [TS]

00:27:53   like showing photos and videos because [TS]

00:27:56   right now I can do that in ten different [TS]

00:27:57   ways I can show them from the ps3 I can [TS]

00:27:59   you know I have to go to the computer [TS]

00:28:01   and set up iPhoto and then I folk export [TS]

00:28:03   them and then various things can read [TS]

00:28:05   them on the TiVo or on the ps3 it's so [TS]

00:28:07   much easier if I could just do that [TS]

00:28:08   wirelessly oh yeah in the same room with [TS]

00:28:11   an iOS - by sitting in front of the [TS]

00:28:13   thing - just put up some pictures and [TS]

00:28:14   from a different room John if you want [TS]

00:28:16   yeah or car now with like with photo [TS]

00:28:18   stream and the new iPhoto for iOS now I [TS]

00:28:20   actually have access like my actual [TS]

00:28:22   photo so this this will be great I think [TS]

00:28:24   will be a good addition to the this set [TS]

00:28:26   of stuff I've have in my house so the [TS]

00:28:28   iPad my predictions on that were [TS]

00:28:31   pregnant displayed I knew that I thought [TS]

00:28:34   it would have the same case a little bit [TS]

00:28:35   thicker that was heavily rumored also [TS]

00:28:37   true we talked a little bit about the [TS]

00:28:38   dock connector whether they replace it I [TS]

00:28:40   said same dock connector that was right [TS]

00:28:41   on pricing I said I thought the pricing [TS]

00:28:44   would be the same and they would push [TS]

00:28:45   down by continuing to sell the iPad - [TS]

00:28:47   that's exactly what they did I said that [TS]

00:28:49   I thought Apple should push upwards but [TS]

00:28:51   they were afraid - and lo and behold [TS]

00:28:53   they didn't there is no 128 gigabyte [TS]

00:28:55   model top end price is the same as the [TS]

00:28:57   previous top end price the CPU I thought [TS]

00:29:00   I thought that the a6 wasn't ready and [TS]

00:29:02   it wouldn't be quad-core and lo and [TS]

00:29:04   behold it is the a 5x as rumored it is [TS]

00:29:06   dual-core but they wanted to have [TS]

00:29:08   quad-core somewhere in the presentation [TS]

00:29:09   and on the spec stage so they said [TS]

00:29:10   quad-core GPU we're really core counting [TS]

00:29:14   is not the way GPUs tend to be measured [TS]

00:29:16   these days but but that was an [TS]

00:29:19   interesting bit of marketing needed [TS]

00:29:20   their cameras I said I thought they had [TS]

00:29:23   to find some way to try to get some of [TS]

00:29:26   their markings back so I did not think [TS]

00:29:27   they would have the iPhone 4s camera in [TS]

00:29:30   the iPad in fact I said I thought I [TS]

00:29:31   wouldn't be surprised they didn't change [TS]

00:29:32   the cameras at all [TS]

00:29:33   well they didn't change the front one [TS]

00:29:35   it's exactly the same VGA FaceTime [TS]

00:29:37   camera there was that and the back one [TS]

00:29:39   has the 4s [TS]

00:29:40   optics the optics from the iPhone 4s [TS]

00:29:42   camera but not the same sensor it's 5 [TS]

00:29:45   megapixels instead of 8 megapixels so [TS]

00:29:47   they sort of split the difference there [TS]

00:29:49   so I'm feeling pretty good about what I [TS]

00:29:52   thought was going to happen and what [TS]

00:29:54   they actually did what the [TS]

00:29:55   my big miss was the one I walked about [TS]

00:29:57   in the beginning I said that previously [TS]

00:29:59   I was so sure that they were not going [TS]

00:30:00   to do LTE but that in recent weeks I was [TS]

00:30:03   feeling more doubtful about that I stuck [TS]

00:30:05   to my guns and I said I think no LTE [TS]

00:30:07   well I was wrong on that one and I was [TS]

00:30:10   right to doubt it because they have LTE [TS]

00:30:14   and I find it a little bit surprising [TS]

00:30:17   mostly because I thought the power [TS]

00:30:20   consumption would just be too much but [TS]

00:30:21   that battery that they jammed in there [TS]

00:30:23   is supposedly a 70% higher capacity it's [TS]

00:30:26   not like you know like they made it like [TS]

00:30:28   less than a millimeter thicker so you're [TS]

00:30:29   like oh how much bigger could the [TS]

00:30:31   battery be how much more capacity could [TS]

00:30:32   possibly have you know 10% 15% [TS]

00:30:34   apparently has 70% more capacity so [TS]

00:30:36   those chips in that screen really are [TS]

00:30:38   sucking juice and they they solved that [TS]

00:30:40   problem by just jamming in more battery [TS]

00:30:42   it makes me wonder I guess for the next [TS]

00:30:46   year for the next model you would assume [TS]

00:30:48   they're going to go back to starting to [TS]

00:30:49   get thinner again and the way they'll do [TS]

00:30:51   that is not by increases in battery [TS]

00:30:53   technology because battery technology [TS]

00:30:55   increases very slowly but by new [TS]

00:30:57   chipsets that consume a lot less power [TS]

00:30:59   than the current LTE chipsets and maybe [TS]

00:31:02   reducing the power of the screen if they [TS]

00:31:03   possibly can [TS]

00:31:04   but not so much by saying ah now we have [TS]

00:31:06   a battery that's the same size but twice [TS]

00:31:07   the capacity that doesn't happen really [TS]

00:31:09   that would be quite a breakthrough in [TS]

00:31:11   battery technology so Apple is running [TS]

00:31:13   up against physics with the amount of [TS]

00:31:14   stuff they're jamming in here which is [TS]

00:31:16   another reason I think they should [TS]

00:31:17   consider going up scale to possibly have [TS]

00:31:22   I don't know I don't know how this I've [TS]

00:31:24   thought about this a lot I don't really [TS]

00:31:25   see a way out for them but I I think [TS]

00:31:28   long term the idea of an iPad is larger [TS]

00:31:31   than 10 inches starts to become [TS]

00:31:34   something Apple has to consider and do [TS]

00:31:36   and at that point you can fit all sorts [TS]

00:31:39   of things in there and battery life can [TS]

00:31:40   expand greatly and now you're talking [TS]

00:31:42   about like a professional pad we're not [TS]

00:31:44   there yet we're not even close to there [TS]

00:31:46   yet and we the real problem is how would [TS]

00:31:47   software work you know considering if [TS]

00:31:50   you try to keep similar sizes for [TS]

00:31:53   everything now a regular iPad app is [TS]

00:31:56   smaller in the center of the screen you [TS]

00:31:57   have to have these iPad pro apps that [TS]

00:31:59   are bigger that I think this will happen [TS]

00:32:00   someday but not this year not next year [TS]

00:32:02   and maybe not the year after that we did [TS]

00:32:05   talk about the name briefly you asked me [TS]

00:32:07   what I thought the name was I [TS]

00:32:09   went back to the podcast and listened to [TS]

00:32:10   see exactly what I said what I said [TS]

00:32:12   my first reaction of the name is I'm not [TS]

00:32:14   really interested in that because it's [TS]

00:32:16   not going to change the product that's [TS]

00:32:17   right [TS]

00:32:18   apparently Apple's not really interested [TS]

00:32:20   in the name either because they they [TS]

00:32:23   pumped it on that uh when press was you [TS]

00:32:27   essentially not going to commit to a [TS]

00:32:28   name I said that I thought if the case [TS]

00:32:29   was thicker than they would go with [TS]

00:32:30   three but it was exactly the same case [TS]

00:32:32   they get away with two s they decided to [TS]

00:32:35   go with no name at all and what I [TS]

00:32:37   tweeted during the presentation was like [TS]

00:32:38   the Apple in in the jobs two era has [TS]

00:32:42   been very anti speck where they didn't [TS]

00:32:48   want to compete on specs anymore because [TS]

00:32:49   they kept getting burned competing on [TS]

00:32:50   specs they would and the PC world was [TS]

00:32:52   all about the numbers and if if you show [TS]

00:32:55   all your numbers you are sort of [TS]

00:32:59   accepting that this is how products are [TS]

00:33:01   compared you put them in a big table you [TS]

00:33:03   say how many megahertz how many [TS]

00:33:04   megabytes you know battery life screen [TS]

00:33:06   size you just do the specs and say oh [TS]

00:33:08   well for the ascent and then the price [TS]

00:33:09   is the big number you say well for that [TS]

00:33:11   same price I can get a PC that has [TS]

00:33:13   better this better that better that [TS]

00:33:14   because the numbers are bigger and if [TS]

00:33:16   you keep playing that game apples always [TS]

00:33:18   going to lose there because they they [TS]

00:33:21   value different things and they put [TS]

00:33:22   their money towards different things [TS]

00:33:23   like yeah you know does this laptop a [TS]

00:33:25   case yes checkmark case case seems like [TS]

00:33:28   they're equal right well the Apple would [TS]

00:33:29   spend all this money on these cases made [TS]

00:33:31   of titanium or whatever and that is not [TS]

00:33:33   represented by a checkmark and so yeah [TS]

00:33:35   their CPU was slower the batterer your [TS]

00:33:37   life was worse but the other parts were [TS]

00:33:39   unaccounted for so Apple said you know [TS]

00:33:40   we're just not going to talk about that [TS]

00:33:42   anymore [TS]

00:33:42   starting specifically with the iOS [TS]

00:33:44   devices we're having to tell you what [TS]

00:33:45   CPU is in it Ram yeah they have RAM but [TS]

00:33:48   that's all we're going to tell you or I [TS]

00:33:49   can tell you how much RAM is in them [TS]

00:33:51   they really only wanted to focus on the [TS]

00:33:53   spec so they think matter to consumer is [TS]

00:33:54   like battery life or how long will the [TS]

00:33:56   battery last they don't tell you what [TS]

00:33:58   battery technology they're using or [TS]

00:33:59   anything like that when it suits them [TS]

00:34:02   they will tout specs that they think [TS]

00:34:04   they're ahead on hey the Retina display [TS]

00:34:06   look this resolution is bigger than HD [TS]

00:34:08   quad-core GPU that's meaningless quote a [TS]

00:34:11   quad-core GPU means nothing to anyone [TS]

00:34:13   but it sounds fancy and they need some [TS]

00:34:15   way to talk about the fact that the a5 [TS]

00:34:17   has fewer doesn't have four cores [TS]

00:34:20   because they touted the a5 dual-core [TS]

00:34:21   bits like hey this is [TS]

00:34:22   back we camped out twice as fast dual [TS]

00:34:24   core whatever but they just don't want [TS]

00:34:27   to play that spec game at and you know [TS]

00:34:29   they only want to they only want to play [TS]

00:34:31   it when for any specific narrow [TS]

00:34:33   instances where they can win uh and that [TS]

00:34:37   philosophy is served them well moving [TS]

00:34:39   the conversation from you know don't buy [TS]

00:34:42   that iPad because you can buy a Zune [TS]

00:34:44   that has more megahertz you know I think [TS]

00:34:46   it's silly conversations like that and [TS]

00:34:48   even in the PC space talking less about [TS]

00:34:50   the specs on the PCs and more about the [TS]

00:34:53   the intangibles well as it turns out [TS]

00:34:55   there's one other number that Apple [TS]

00:34:57   needs to expunge from their product line [TS]

00:34:59   and that is the number after the product [TS]

00:35:01   iPad 2 [TS]

00:35:02   iPhone 4 iPhone 4s iPhone 3G that one [TS]

00:35:08   little place where they let in eighth a [TS]

00:35:10   number that you need to increase that [TS]

00:35:12   they let that creep into their product [TS]

00:35:14   lines and they learned I think a hard [TS]

00:35:15   lesson with the 4s where they said you [TS]

00:35:17   know we're not going to call us the [TS]

00:35:18   iPhone 5 we're going to call it the 4s [TS]

00:35:20   same thing with 3G and 3GS and I just [TS]

00:35:22   kept getting slammed because the number [TS]

00:35:23   wasn't one bigger it's like well last [TS]

00:35:25   year was a four and now it's still a [TS]

00:35:27   four but there's a letter shouldn't it [TS]

00:35:29   be a five you know it's a spinal tap [TS]

00:35:31   well that's one louder isn't it but this [TS]

00:35:33   one isn't one louder it's just got an S [TS]

00:35:35   on the end and so Happold head you know [TS]

00:35:37   what fine if you guys can't handle you [TS]

00:35:39   know that if that suddenly becomes how [TS]

00:35:41   we're judged and how public perception [TS]

00:35:43   of our products is influenced by the [TS]

00:35:45   stupid number at the end of proc game no [TS]

00:35:47   more numbers for you iPad 2 and then the [TS]

00:35:48   new one is just called the iPad so you [TS]

00:35:51   know you're gonna happen how about the [TS]

00:35:53   fact there's no numbers but at least [TS]

00:35:54   you're not going to say well it should [TS]

00:35:56   have been the iPad 3 but it's the iPad [TS]

00:35:57   2s and we're all sad now and as many [TS]

00:36:01   many people have pointed out on the [TS]

00:36:03   internet like this doesn't phase me at [TS]

00:36:06   all and I don't understand how like [TS]

00:36:08   maybe your initial reaction it's like oh [TS]

00:36:10   no numbers that's weird but the second [TS]

00:36:12   someone reminds you because everyone [TS]

00:36:14   knows this isn't like people knows [TS]

00:36:15   reminds you that the MacBook Air doesn't [TS]

00:36:17   have numbers the the MacBook doesn't [TS]

00:36:19   have numbers the iMac doesn't have [TS]

00:36:20   numbers and somehow we all survived year [TS]

00:36:22   a year with IMAX coming out with what is [TS]

00:36:24   just the iMac 7 the iMac 28 I don't know [TS]

00:36:27   how can I tell that this iMac is but [TS]

00:36:29   it's just the iMac it and once someone [TS]

00:36:31   reminds you of that people it amazes me [TS]

00:36:33   that people persist in saying ok [TS]

00:36:36   but I still think it should be iPad 3 [TS]

00:36:37   why but don't what don't you understand [TS]

00:36:40   how these people are so okay with the [TS]

00:36:42   iMac not having a number on it [TS]

00:36:43   and yet still when they've gone back and [TS]

00:36:47   thought about it are upset about the [TS]

00:36:49   fact that the iPad doesn't have a number [TS]

00:36:50   on it if if you need more if you need [TS]

00:36:53   more convincing that that why this [TS]

00:36:57   dropped the numbers is how the iOS [TS]

00:37:00   devices are different than PCs well it's [TS]

00:37:02   clear that Apple thinks that the iPad is [TS]

00:37:04   the successor to the PC this whole post [TS]

00:37:06   PC thing and the beginning of the [TS]

00:37:08   presentation about this is a post PC [TS]

00:37:09   world and Apple's the leader in this [TS]

00:37:11   space and all the stuff that we already [TS]

00:37:12   know but that's clearly apples pitch if [TS]

00:37:14   the iPad is the thing that succeeds the [TS]

00:37:16   PC why should it have to have numbers [TS]

00:37:18   when Apple's PC products don't doesn't [TS]

00:37:22   make any sense to me of course the [TS]

00:37:25   situation we have in all the the Mac [TS]

00:37:27   around is that we have these I was [TS]

00:37:28   calling the support names some people [TS]

00:37:30   call them Apple care names but they the [TS]

00:37:31   products do have names and for the real [TS]

00:37:34   nerds we know that it's like you know [TS]

00:37:35   Mac Pro for comma one there are specific [TS]

00:37:38   model numbers that are completely [TS]

00:37:39   unambiguous that tell you exactly what [TS]

00:37:41   your machine you have but then there are [TS]

00:37:42   the support names like you know uh well [TS]

00:37:48   I booked what does some of the name so [TS]

00:37:49   she could look something up like a there [TS]

00:37:51   used to be like mirror drive door Power [TS]

00:37:52   Mac g4 or a primary key form your Drive [TS]

00:37:54   door or white eye book late spring 2003 [TS]

00:37:59   like they'd have all these weird phrases [TS]

00:38:01   that would uniquely identify Apple [TS]

00:38:04   support system the particular machine [TS]

00:38:05   you had and they weren't the part [TS]

00:38:07   numbers with it with the numbers and the [TS]

00:38:08   comments and everything so there were [TS]

00:38:11   two unique ways to identify your think [TS]

00:38:12   one of them was techie and nonsensical [TS]

00:38:14   you know the MacBook Pro 8 comma 2 is [TS]

00:38:16   someone just pasted it into the chat [TS]

00:38:18   room uh and then there were the longer [TS]

00:38:21   names that had some parenthetical phrase [TS]

00:38:23   about the time of release or the color [TS]

00:38:25   of the thing or the dual USB iBook all [TS]

00:38:28   sorts of weird phrases to differentiate [TS]

00:38:29   it from the previous one and then [TS]

00:38:32   finally was is the product name itself [TS]

00:38:34   and even on the iPad even though it was [TS]

00:38:36   called the iPad 2 and they use iPad 2 to [TS]

00:38:38   the marking material when you bought one [TS]

00:38:39   in the store it comes in a package that [TS]

00:38:40   says iPad on it doesn't say iPad to any [TS]

00:38:42   or on the package and same thing with [TS]

00:38:45   the iPods the iPod Nano gap applied a [TS]

00:38:47   note to the iPod Nano 3 the iPod Nano 4 [TS]

00:38:49   they just can't make [TS]

00:38:50   new iPod nanos and they didn't put [TS]

00:38:52   numbers on them and they were you know [TS]

00:38:53   they had product numbers and names and [TS]

00:38:55   all this stuff where they could be you [TS]

00:38:56   could identified - so the name thing [TS]

00:38:58   just boggles my mind that I I'm not [TS]

00:39:01   surprised that people have the distil [TS]

00:39:03   reaction of all where's the number like [TS]

00:39:04   that's natural it's natural to have that [TS]

00:39:06   immediate reaction but once you've had [TS]

00:39:08   the 5-10 minutes to talk about it and [TS]

00:39:10   once you've seen the obvious rebuttals [TS]

00:39:11   I'm amazed that people don't find those [TS]

00:39:14   convincing and it continued to go well I [TS]

00:39:16   think it's Jap numbers really really [TS]

00:39:17   done let's see what else we have here [TS]

00:39:23   Ram we never talked about RAM when we [TS]

00:39:26   were talking about predictions to the [TS]

00:39:27   show Matt or maybe we did in a remember [TS]

00:39:30   I don't think we did actually [TS]

00:39:31   so Apple does another spec that Apple [TS]

00:39:33   doesn't talk about they don't they don't [TS]

00:39:34   obey Ram in the pressroom room [TS]

00:39:36   afterwards when the press goes in there [TS]

00:39:38   and gets to talk to the Apple people are [TS]

00:39:40   stacked nigga and other publications who [TS]

00:39:41   are read by nerds dutifully ask every [TS]

00:39:43   time how much RAM does it have and the [TS]

00:39:46   Apple people do beautifully today we're [TS]

00:39:47   not talking about that today or whatever [TS]

00:39:48   the hell they're you know polite no [TS]

00:39:52   comment answers that's that's so silly [TS]

00:39:55   and strange like the fact that they [TS]

00:39:57   don't talk about it fine they don't they [TS]

00:39:59   don't think that's something I'd [TS]

00:39:59   emphasize don't don't talk about it in [TS]

00:40:01   the event but afterwards in the press [TS]

00:40:03   room when some nerdy publication is [TS]

00:40:05   asking you just tell them how much [TS]

00:40:07   friend has it's not like they're not [TS]

00:40:09   gonna find out on March 16th they're all [TS]

00:40:11   gonna get the machines or I'm gonna fire [TS]

00:40:12   them up and load the little dinky piece [TS]

00:40:13   of software that measures the RAM and [TS]

00:40:15   say and tell us how much ram it has and [TS]

00:40:17   you know we have a pretty good guess now [TS]

00:40:19   anyway everyone seems to think it's one [TS]

00:40:20   gigabyte why not just tell us for sure [TS]

00:40:22   why I leave this you know what what does [TS]

00:40:25   Apple gain by obstinately refusing to [TS]

00:40:29   tell us this when asked don't listen I [TS]

00:40:32   respect Paige don't advertise don't put [TS]

00:40:34   it in the presentation but when asked [TS]

00:40:35   directly by a practicin for some obscure [TS]

00:40:37   nerdy publication just tell them it's [TS]

00:40:39   not you know it's not telling us does [TS]

00:40:42   not make this information not known it's [TS]

00:40:44   just like a spiteful two-week delay in [TS]

00:40:48   us finding out for sure and similarly [TS]

00:40:51   there was a another weird thing where [TS]

00:40:53   apparently in the press room people were [TS]

00:40:55   asking about the weight like is this [TS]

00:40:57   weigh the same as the previous iPad and [TS]

00:40:58   the Apple people kept saying that it did [TS]

00:41:01   weigh the same but it doesn't weigh the [TS]

00:41:03   same [TS]

00:41:03   I mean on Apple's own speck on that if [TS]

00:41:05   you were to go to their website I think [TS]

00:41:07   and look it up you can get a spec that [TS]

00:41:08   says that it doesn't weigh the same up [TS]

00:41:10   but in the pressroom people were saying [TS]

00:41:11   it weigh the same so why would Apple's [TS]

00:41:14   press people be saying something that's [TS]

00:41:16   contradicted by their own spec sheets [TS]

00:41:17   and that and again as soon as people get [TS]

00:41:20   them they can put them on a scale and [TS]

00:41:22   it's not like we're not going to know [TS]

00:41:23   which one weighs more and somehow by [TS]

00:41:25   Apple not telling us that weighs [TS]

00:41:27   slightly more than the other one that [TS]

00:41:28   you know so I was thinking about that [TS]

00:41:30   one is they could just be mistaken and [TS]

00:41:31   they didn't know about the weight [TS]

00:41:32   difference the second one is that there [TS]

00:41:35   is no real downside for them telling you [TS]

00:41:37   it weighs the same because telling you [TS]

00:41:38   weighs the same even if they know it to [TS]

00:41:40   be not true is good because it deflects [TS]

00:41:43   the story for the for the publications [TS]

00:41:45   that don't that aren't read by nerd like [TS]

00:41:47   USA Today asked at an apple spokesperson [TS]

00:41:49   does this weigh the same as the iPad 2 [TS]

00:41:51   and the Apple spokesperson says yes the [TS]

00:41:52   USA Today person publishes that case [TS]

00:41:55   that I don't care I asked the Apple [TS]

00:41:57   representative they said wait that [TS]

00:41:58   becomes an on point in their stories [TS]

00:42:01   even like the New York Times The Wall [TS]

00:42:02   Street Journal if the apple spokesperson [TS]

00:42:03   say weighs the same maybe maybe Walt [TS]

00:42:05   Mossberg would be picky about that and [TS]

00:42:08   sale actually doesn't weigh the same but [TS]

00:42:09   for a lot of publications I'll just [TS]

00:42:11   print what Apple tells them so that's [TS]

00:42:12   upside for Apple because it deflects the [TS]

00:42:13   story from talking about how this is [TS]

00:42:15   slightly heavier and if you know and [TS]

00:42:18   when eventually people get the things in [TS]

00:42:19   weigh them or they go and look at the [TS]

00:42:20   spec sheet and see that it's different [TS]

00:42:21   and they call them on say hey Apple you [TS]

00:42:23   said these weigh the same Apple said [TS]

00:42:24   well come on it's like 80 grams it's [TS]

00:42:26   basically the same and that's true it is [TS]

00:42:28   basically the same which is why Apple [TS]

00:42:29   thinks it's a non-story and why they [TS]

00:42:31   don't want people to talk about it so [TS]

00:42:33   that could be a slightly evil PR [TS]

00:42:36   strategy to say look if we just tell [TS]

00:42:37   them it weighs the same it just makes [TS]

00:42:39   things easier that the Nerds you want to [TS]

00:42:41   know we're going to find out anyway and [TS]

00:42:42   so what and the people who don't know [TS]

00:42:43   it's basically the same anyway let's not [TS]

00:42:45   make this a story the other thing was [TS]

00:42:48   the thickness they in the presentation [TS]

00:42:51   they showed what the thickness was and [TS]

00:42:53   you can look up an Apple spec sheet what [TS]

00:42:55   this because of the iPad 2 was and [TS]

00:42:56   compare the two numbers but they didn't [TS]

00:42:58   make a big point out of it in the press [TS]

00:43:01   room they wouldn't allow any of the [TS]

00:43:03   press to take out their own iPad 2 as [TS]

00:43:05   which I'm sure all had and lay them down [TS]

00:43:08   next to the iPad 3 to do all those [TS]

00:43:09   pictures like let me take a picture with [TS]

00:43:10   my iPhone here's the iPad 2 is def ad 3 [TS]

00:43:13   from the press room you can look at it [TS]

00:43:14   from the side and see which one is a [TS]

00:43:15   little bit thicker everyone [TS]

00:43:17   going to do those pictures once they get [TS]

00:43:18   their units to do the real reviews Apple [TS]

00:43:21   I guess didn't want those pictures to [TS]

00:43:22   happen now and the excuse they gave was [TS]

00:43:24   like well the iPad 2 looks so much like [TS]

00:43:26   the iPad 3 and we don't want people [TS]

00:43:28   taking these things out of the room [TS]

00:43:30   which I seems like it makes sense it's a [TS]

00:43:34   good kind of PR II type excuse but if [TS]

00:43:37   you think about it for a couple seconds [TS]

00:43:38   just like well maybe if you're inviting [TS]

00:43:41   press to your events who you think might [TS]

00:43:44   steal the iPad 3 maybe don't invite [TS]

00:43:45   those guys next time that's a little bit [TS]

00:43:48   of a glib answer because you could say [TS]

00:43:50   well if we knew they were going to steal [TS]

00:43:51   that we wouldn't invite them but we know [TS]

00:43:53   we won't find out until the first person [TS]

00:43:55   steals one and then it's too late so [TS]

00:43:58   really we would rather not let you have [TS]

00:43:59   things like that so the test of this [TS]

00:44:01   will be next year when the iPad whatever [TS]

00:44:05   the new iPad comes out and it presumably [TS]

00:44:08   it is thinner than the current one or [TS]

00:44:10   maybe at least stays the same weight or [TS]

00:44:12   Apple does have anything to hide about [TS]

00:44:14   the thickness will then it become [TS]

00:44:16   acceptable for the press to put their [TS]

00:44:19   own iPad 3's next to the new ones and [TS]

00:44:20   take photographs of it as these are all [TS]

00:44:24   things you can ask Gruber about because [TS]

00:44:26   he's actually in that room but I'm just [TS]

00:44:27   going on you know reports that I've read [TS]

00:44:29   from other people who are in the room [TS]

00:44:31   but it's just weird Apple PR is weird [TS]

00:44:34   sometimes they're weird with a purpose I [TS]

00:44:36   think all the things they're doing here [TS]

00:44:37   I can imagine [TS]

00:44:39   reasonable purposes for it and not [TS]

00:44:41   saying the way it's the same not [TS]

00:44:43   allowing pictures side-by-side not not [TS]

00:44:45   telling people the RAM is the toughest [TS]

00:44:46   one that I had that I can you know [TS]

00:44:48   figure out and especially since you've [TS]

00:44:50   doubled the RAM like if it really is 1 [TS]

00:44:53   gigabyte going up from 512 answer that [TS]

00:44:56   question it's all there's only upside [TS]

00:44:57   really I know you don't want to [TS]

00:44:59   emphasize the RAM but I think just [TS]

00:45:00   telling publications in the press room [TS]

00:45:03   is ok you're not offering that [TS]

00:45:06   information but when they specifically [TS]

00:45:07   ask for it just tell them the answer [TS]

00:45:08   it's silly not to we're going to find [TS]

00:45:10   out as soon as we get the unit's anyway [TS]

00:45:13   face time versus eyesight did you notice [TS]

00:45:15   this in the presentation yeah there is [TS]

00:45:17   an iSight camera specifically something [TS]

00:45:20   identified as an iSight camera yeah and [TS]

00:45:22   this is the thing you miss like when I [TS]

00:45:24   was at work watching the live blogs go [TS]

00:45:26   by a window on the side these nuances [TS]

00:45:28   aren't expressed that [TS]

00:45:30   in one of the transcripts typed through [TS]

00:45:31   it I sighed and I thought it was funny [TS]

00:45:33   to use eyesight but when you watch the [TS]

00:45:34   actual presentation Phil Schiller says I [TS]

00:45:36   will read his exact words here even [TS]

00:45:39   though they're a little weird when the [TS]

00:45:40   camera that gets when when the camera [TS]

00:45:42   gets of such quality and capability that [TS]

00:45:44   you're proud to use it as your everyday [TS]

00:45:45   camera photographs we call it an iSight [TS]

00:45:48   camera so that sense is in the [TS]

00:45:49   presentation to explain to people who [TS]

00:45:51   are paying attention why they're calling [TS]

00:45:53   is eyesight when previously they were [TS]

00:45:55   calling you know that they didn't have a [TS]

00:45:56   name and they were calling things based [TS]

00:45:58   on so the implication there is that face [TS]

00:46:00   time means only suitable for video [TS]

00:46:02   conferencing so we just want to see your [TS]

00:46:03   face and send it to somebody over a low [TS]

00:46:05   bandwidth connection you use a FaceTime [TS]

00:46:06   camera but once the cameras cross a [TS]

00:46:08   certain threshold of quality that Phil [TS]

00:46:10   has defined as something you're proud to [TS]

00:46:13   use is your everyday camera that's [TS]

00:46:14   there's quite a bit of strange emotional [TS]

00:46:19   connection put up in there it's not [TS]

00:46:21   about quality it's about you being proud [TS]

00:46:22   of it I'm proud to use this as my [TS]

00:46:24   everyday camera what someone would be [TS]

00:46:26   proud to use a gigantic iPad as their [TS]

00:46:27   everyday camera I don't know but at the [TS]

00:46:29   very least it's clear that once the [TS]

00:46:31   quality crosses a certain threshold they [TS]

00:46:33   call it an iSight camera which to me is [TS]

00:46:35   really weird because the birth of the [TS]

00:46:36   eyesight brand was in a camera that sets [TS]

00:46:39   on top of your monitor and faces you for [TS]

00:46:40   the purpose of video conferencing but [TS]

00:46:41   now somehow FaceTime is the camera that [TS]

00:46:44   faces you for the purpose of video [TS]

00:46:45   conferencing and eyesight is the one on [TS]

00:46:47   the back of your devices that's the high [TS]

00:46:49   quality thing that you take videos with [TS]

00:46:51   and pictures with look bit weird you [TS]

00:46:54   know and finally I haven't read this yet [TS]

00:46:57   but I linked it because this stuff is [TS]

00:46:59   usually pretty good and nerdy and text [TS]

00:47:01   coverage of the new iPad is filled with [TS]

00:47:04   specs he for example he lists one [TS]

00:47:07   gigabyte and speculation and information [TS]

00:47:10   about the GPU and all sorts of other [TS]

00:47:11   stuff so I would recommend people read [TS]

00:47:14   that while they're waiting for their [TS]

00:47:15   iPad threes to arrive and yes the the [TS]

00:47:18   marketing name or the AppleCare name or [TS]

00:47:20   the support name not the marketing and [TS]

00:47:22   the support name of the iPad is iPad in [TS]

00:47:24   parentheses third-generation so not very [TS]

00:47:27   confusing if they really do release one [TS]

00:47:29   of these every year it will still be [TS]

00:47:30   very clear which model you have I don't [TS]

00:47:32   know what the the number comma number [TS]

00:47:35   version of it the thing is mary's ipad 3 [TS]

00:47:37   comma one or something who knows [TS]

00:47:42   so that's all I think I have on the iPad [TS]

00:47:44   introduction you or your order yours I'm [TS]

00:47:47   I'm still waffling on that hmm I'm gonna [TS]

00:47:51   get one probably I guess kind of what [TS]

00:47:54   I'm waiting for is to see whether I end [TS]

00:47:58   up going to WWDC because if I go I'd [TS]

00:48:01   like to use this as my main device I I [TS]

00:48:03   brought my wife's iPad last year and it [TS]

00:48:07   worked pretty well for me and it was [TS]

00:48:08   certainly easier to carry around the [TS]

00:48:09   MacBook Pro which I also brought so if I [TS]

00:48:12   go I will want to have my new iPad 3 [TS]

00:48:15   with me but if I don't go I don't know [TS]

00:48:20   maybe I'll wait a little bit longer I [TS]

00:48:21   also don't like to get the first batch [TS]

00:48:23   of devices there's some sort of problem [TS]

00:48:25   with them or the screens have some sort [TS]

00:48:27   of yellowing thing or the home buttons [TS]

00:48:28   get messed up I just let the early [TS]

00:48:30   adopters work that I know just get it [TS]

00:48:32   replaced under warranty it won't be a [TS]

00:48:34   big deal but I just want the hassle so [TS]

00:48:35   I'm gonna wait on that when I do get one [TS]

00:48:37   I'll probably get a 32 gigabyte black [TS]

00:48:40   Verizon 4G model that is my expectation [TS]

00:48:45   okay good model yeah that's that seems [TS]

00:48:49   to be all of our devices in our house [TS]

00:48:50   are 32 gigs black and if there's 3G on [TS]

00:48:54   them or any kind of cellular technology [TS]

00:48:56   its Verizon that's exactly what what we [TS]

00:48:59   got here there you go good choice yeah I [TS]

00:49:03   heard Marco getting his now he got the [TS]

00:49:05   miramare the millionaire model that's [TS]

00:49:07   what he got that's right [TS]

00:49:08   the millionaire millionaire model which [TS]

00:49:12   is basically the the highest end [TS]

00:49:14   everything max done everything I this is [TS]

00:49:15   the first one 18 t though he did because [TS]

00:49:18   where he lives in in Brooklyn ah-ha that [TS]

00:49:22   apparently service there on AT&T for him [TS]

00:49:25   is phenomenal I don't understand why he [TS]

00:49:28   would be using the I I didn't [TS]

00:49:30   disintegrate any to ask him why would he [TS]

00:49:31   be using the 4G at home but maybe when [TS]

00:49:34   he's out about in town it's better for [TS]

00:49:37   him but I think universally here in the [TS]

00:49:39   US people people report that Verizon [TS]

00:49:41   gets better coverage although maybe the [TS]

00:49:43   speeds on 18 T are better but I don't I [TS]

00:49:47   I don't know if that's the case here's [TS]

00:49:49   another question that that's come in do [TS]

00:49:51   you know if people and [TS]

00:49:53   this doesn't apply to an iPad because [TS]

00:49:55   you can't do calls on an iPad but do you [TS]

00:49:57   know if LTE it shouldn't have that [TS]

00:50:00   limitation for the CDMA users where they [TS]

00:50:03   can't do data and voice at the same time [TS]

00:50:06   again I know you don't do this on an [TS]

00:50:07   iPad but do you know what the status is [TS]

00:50:09   of that I would assume that limitation [TS]

00:50:11   is gone okay that was a believe in [TS]

00:50:13   limitation inheritance CDMA right and [TS]

00:50:15   will not be present at all on LTE and [TS]

00:50:17   that's the other thing like the Verizon [TS]

00:50:18   is like well you probably get better [TS]

00:50:20   coverage but 18 these speeds are better [TS]

00:50:22   when you're in some place with good [TS]

00:50:23   coverage of both but for LTE I don't [TS]

00:50:26   know what the answer is is Verizon's LTE [TS]

00:50:28   just as fast as AT&T is assuming same [TS]

00:50:30   signal strength I don't know I always [TS]

00:50:31   get Verizon because the whole purpose of [TS]

00:50:34   having cellular connection is you are [TS]

00:50:38   away from Wi-Fi and when you're away [TS]

00:50:40   from wipe I want a connection the most [TS]

00:50:41   important thing is not the speed of that [TS]

00:50:43   connection but whether you can get a [TS]

00:50:44   connection and I do not get good signal [TS]

00:50:46   from many cell carriers in my house but [TS]

00:50:49   the only time I ever use 3G on the iPad [TS]

00:50:53   that we have a 3G or my wife's eyes on [TS]

00:50:55   is when we are away from our house on [TS]

00:50:57   vacations come are mostly so we'll buy [TS]

00:50:59   we'll buy a month of 3G when we go on [TS]

00:51:00   vacation to the beach or whatever or if [TS]

00:51:02   we go somewhere I want to use the iPad [TS]

00:51:04   is like a big GPS or something or [TS]

00:51:05   getting from the airport to a hotel and [TS]

00:51:07   you're you know we're in a different [TS]

00:51:09   state we're nowhere near you know so the [TS]

00:51:10   coverage at my house is not that big a [TS]

00:51:13   factor so I just want to have the best [TS]

00:51:16   odds of wherever we happen to go getting [TS]

00:51:18   covered and so I'm going with Verizon [TS]

00:51:22   [Music] [TS]

00:51:23   don't do our second sponsor sure it's [TS]

00:51:27   Rackspace comm more than a hundred [TS]

00:51:29   thousand businesses trust Rackspace with [TS]

00:51:31   their hosting and cloud computing most [TS]

00:51:34   people think when they think of [TS]

00:51:36   Rackspace they think okay they have [TS]

00:51:38   these huge data centers well that's true [TS]

00:51:40   and you can go and you can get a [TS]

00:51:41   completely customized dedicated server [TS]

00:51:44   in there you can get that and you said [TS]

00:51:46   this I want this much RAM I want this [TS]

00:51:48   much hard drive I want raid I want [TS]

00:51:49   whatever and they'll put it in the rack [TS]

00:51:51   and and they'll they'll do this [TS]

00:51:54   fanatical support thing that they do [TS]

00:51:55   where anything you need help with [TS]

00:51:56   anything you want them to do they go do [TS]

00:51:58   you want to reboot it they'll reboot it [TS]

00:52:00   you want to install something I'll do it [TS]

00:52:01   whatever it is figure out what's wrong [TS]

00:52:03   with it make it faster that's what [TS]

00:52:05   people think of all that's true [TS]

00:52:07   man they've come a long way since then [TS]

00:52:08   that's that's old-school stuff they've [TS]

00:52:10   got cloud hosting so you get up and [TS]

00:52:12   running in minutes they've got you know [TS]

00:52:14   complete load balancing so that you can [TS]

00:52:16   spread your application your website [TS]

00:52:18   whatever it is across tons and tons of [TS]

00:52:20   the servers in the cloud they've got [TS]

00:52:22   this beautiful control panel with an API [TS]

00:52:24   interface that you can script it's [TS]

00:52:26   scales it's pay-as-you-go all the modern [TS]

00:52:29   stuff well they also combine these two [TS]

00:52:31   different things with what they call [TS]

00:52:33   hybrid hosting you get your dedicated [TS]

00:52:34   servers for performance intensive apps [TS]

00:52:36   you get cloud service so that you can [TS]

00:52:38   scale without paying an arm and a leg [TS]

00:52:40   unless you need it and they've got RAC [TS]

00:52:42   connect this seamlessly inner links and [TS]

00:52:45   interconnects both environments of [TS]

00:52:46   course all of this is supported the only [TS]

00:52:48   company out there doing stuff like this [TS]

00:52:50   and it's a great time to get started [TS]

00:52:53   with them they let you try it 25 days no [TS]

00:52:55   risk with their managed cloud server [TS]

00:52:57   stuff so go to rat it's very important [TS]

00:52:59   uses URL this supports the show you want [TS]

00:53:02   to support their show go to Rackspace [TS]

00:53:04   calm slash 5 by 5 and we love these guys [TS]

00:53:08   we appreciate their support really great [TS]

00:53:11   stuff for you go check it out that's it [TS]

00:53:17   blowing your nose or something no I I [TS]

00:53:20   was closing browser tabs and by closing [TS]

00:53:23   them I suddenly made the frontmost tab a [TS]

00:53:25   video that decided once I'm the [TS]

00:53:27   frontmost tab I should start playing the [TS]

00:53:29   video and now I can't find where that [TS]

00:53:30   video is I see I think it was the [TS]

00:53:32   presentation video and trade that when [TS]

00:53:34   you're sitting at a computer all sudden [TS]

00:53:35   you start to hear audio and it's like [TS]

00:53:37   which tab is this buried in they usually [TS]

00:53:39   means I'm on the air yeah it was coming [TS]

00:53:42   out of luckily I think I was muted so [TS]

00:53:43   you didn't get to hear alright defo I [TS]

00:53:45   just turned off my speakers so are you [TS]

00:53:49   how you using the new Safari by the way [TS]

00:53:50   I know this is a little off-topic might [TS]

00:53:52   not be on there but I'm curious to know [TS]

00:53:53   because you're mentioning tabs are you [TS]

00:53:55   using the news of the beta of Safari no [TS]

00:53:58   I'm not using I that I've you know I'm [TS]

00:54:00   still grousing about five one that came [TS]

00:54:02   with lion hmmm still suffering through [TS]

00:54:04   the pee we now need to reload all of [TS]

00:54:07   your tabs [TS]

00:54:07   sometimes they announce that sometimes [TS]

00:54:09   they don't sometimes I'll just be [TS]

00:54:10   sitting there using something and all of [TS]

00:54:11   a sudden all of my tabs are reloaded and [TS]

00:54:12   that makes me very very angry I believe [TS]

00:54:14   John that there was an update to Safari [TS]

00:54:17   since the since that came out I know for [TS]

00:54:20   sure that [TS]

00:54:21   latest update seems to have addressed [TS]

00:54:23   that problem it also brings to Safari [TS]

00:54:25   what I believe is one of the best [TS]

00:54:28   features of Chrome which is an address [TS]

00:54:32   bar that doubles as a search bar so that [TS]

00:54:34   you no longer need to hit command L to [TS]

00:54:36   get over to the search you just start [TS]

00:54:38   typing right in the address field and it [TS]

00:54:40   become it's quite smart and figures [TS]

00:54:42   things out and knows what you mean [TS]

00:54:43   you're talking about safari 5 - yeah [TS]

00:54:45   yeah no I haven't played with that beta [TS]

00:54:47   but it also has fat tabs [TS]

00:54:50   yeah I saw Gruber complaining about I [TS]

00:54:53   see I actually think the fat tabs the [TS]

00:54:55   only time when the fat tab looks silly [TS]

00:54:57   is when it's the only tab or maybe if [TS]

00:55:01   you have tunics always so tab bar though [TS]

00:55:03   that's not the main problem don't have [TS]

00:55:05   always show tab bar selected I don't [TS]

00:55:06   ever have that like I don't want to see [TS]

00:55:08   the tab bar when there's one tab and I [TS]

00:55:10   think you know in my in the real Safari [TS]

00:55:12   in five one three I don't have that [TS]

00:55:15   checked and when there is one only one [TS]

00:55:17   URL open there's no tab bar at all so [TS]

00:55:19   we'll never see one fat tab or one [TS]

00:55:20   skinny tab this is no tab just five [TS]

00:55:23   student remove that option to not always [TS]

00:55:25   show the tab bar uh no well so let's see [TS]

00:55:28   if we go under the tab options right now [TS]

00:55:30   it says I I do not I do not see an [TS]

00:55:33   option there under tabs it says open [TS]

00:55:36   pages and tabs instead of windows never [TS]

00:55:38   automatically always there's a checkbox [TS]

00:55:41   for command click opens a link in a new [TS]

00:55:43   tab and there's a checkbox that says [TS]

00:55:45   when a new tab or window opens make it [TS]

00:55:47   active but I uh I don't see a tab but if [TS]

00:55:50   I if well and hold on let me verify that [TS]

00:55:54   I've got another machine here to check [TS]

00:55:56   the the new one running so that's the [TS]

00:55:59   current one now the new beta let me get [TS]

00:56:01   this thing going here you know these [TS]

00:56:07   these little uh these little errors they [TS]

00:56:10   really do start up fast don't they so [TS]

00:56:12   the options on the new the new one are [TS]

00:56:14   identical yeah I don't see they used to [TS]

00:56:16   be a thing that said oh you show tab bar [TS]

00:56:18   yes no and I always turn that off I said [TS]

00:56:19   of course I don't want to see the tab [TS]

00:56:21   bar with only one tab so that option is [TS]

00:56:23   gone and maybe they just changed the [TS]

00:56:24   behavior in five two so now that it does [TS]

00:56:26   show the tab it does it I'm not seeing [TS]

00:56:28   it and and when you open a new window [TS]

00:56:31   there's no tabs if you hit command T to [TS]

00:56:33   start a tab [TS]

00:56:34   you get two tabs one is closed closed [TS]

00:56:37   one of them though and then they both go [TS]

00:56:38   away all right oh so that's normal then [TS]

00:56:40   yeah I've seen the fat tabs the two time [TS]

00:56:43   I've seen it [TS]

00:56:44   Mountain Lion mountain line is Safari [TS]

00:56:45   five - so it has the same behavior III [TS]

00:56:48   think it is you have just the one or I [TS]

00:56:51   guess the two tabs there that does look [TS]

00:56:52   a little silly but really I think it's [TS]

00:56:55   great it you can see the full titles and [TS]

00:56:57   they just get smaller and smaller and [TS]

00:56:59   why would you not want them today you [TS]

00:57:01   don't want because it means that [TS]

00:57:02   clicking on the second tab is a longer [TS]

00:57:04   distance for your cursor to go if you've [TS]

00:57:07   only got your chitters next to the first [TS]

00:57:08   tab and you want to go from the first [TS]

00:57:10   head to the second time you've got to [TS]

00:57:11   travel all across this vast expanse of [TS]

00:57:13   probably empty first tab aha [TS]

00:57:15   that's why and that feels worse if [TS]

00:57:18   you're used to not having to move your [TS]

00:57:20   mouse as much obviously the obvious [TS]

00:57:22   advantages now you can see more of the [TS]

00:57:23   title and that's why you know compromise [TS]

00:57:25   is just shrinking the tabs to contain [TS]

00:57:27   the title plus or minus some some [TS]

00:57:30   fudging that at the title is [TS]

00:57:31   ridiculously long truncated anyway I'm [TS]

00:57:34   sure they'll tweak that stuff I'm not [TS]

00:57:36   too concerned about it I do like that in [TS]

00:57:38   five one they change to the chrome way [TS]

00:57:41   of opening new tabs I really like this [TS]

00:57:44   far away because I was used to it but [TS]

00:57:46   then I use Chrome all the time - and [TS]

00:57:47   then I'm using one browser they pay one [TS]

00:57:49   way one browser behave the other way but [TS]

00:57:51   now my both of my browsers are behaving [TS]

00:57:52   the same way that is opening when you [TS]

00:57:54   open a new tab it opens to the right of [TS]

00:57:56   the tab that spawned it instead of [TS]

00:57:58   always opening at the far out of the [TS]

00:57:59   full list of tabs now that both of my [TS]

00:58:01   browser's do that I find it more [TS]

00:58:03   convenient so I don't have to go all the [TS]

00:58:04   way to the right to find that tab that [TS]

00:58:05   just open that's it's just to the right [TS]

00:58:07   of the one that I opened it from but [TS]

00:58:11   that's that's off topic I do actually [TS]

00:58:13   have a second topic here besides the [TS]

00:58:15   iPad if you think we're done with the [TS]

00:58:16   iPad there was anything else you want to [TS]

00:58:17   talk about I think I think we've one [TS]

00:58:20   thing [TS]

00:58:21   do do you anticipate using a case or [TS]

00:58:24   cover free our pen I'm just or anything [TS]

00:58:25   with the listeners life yeah my wife has [TS]

00:58:28   a smart cover for hers I think the smart [TS]

00:58:30   cover has problems the most annoying one [TS]

00:58:33   for me is when I flap it around to the [TS]

00:58:35   back of the thing that the very last [TS]

00:58:37   little bit of it doesn't stick well [TS]

00:58:39   because the back surface of the iPad [TS]

00:58:41   curves away from it and the magnets [TS]

00:58:43   don't quite hold it so I hate that [TS]

00:58:44   little back flap falling down I've tried [TS]

00:58:46   all sorts of other schemes of [TS]

00:58:48   according up the accordion accordion [TS]

00:58:51   hang up the case so it's also crunchy [TS]

00:58:54   underneath your hand I don't like doing [TS]

00:58:56   that either occasionally the magnets [TS]

00:58:59   aren't up to the task of holding the [TS]

00:59:03   thing on when I have an arrangement [TS]

00:59:04   wrangle but for the most part I think [TS]

00:59:06   the Smart Cover has way more pluses than [TS]

00:59:10   minuses so I probably will get a smart [TS]

00:59:12   cover for my iPad but I still also want [TS]

00:59:14   a sleeve to stick it in for further [TS]

00:59:16   protection when I'm not using it so that [TS]

00:59:18   my plan is get a smart cover and then [TS]

00:59:21   find some sort of sleeve that I can slip [TS]

00:59:24   the thing into that will give an extra [TS]

00:59:25   minor protection and then take that [TS]

00:59:27   sleeve and smart cover covered iPad and [TS]

00:59:28   stick it inside you know a bag a laptop [TS]

00:59:30   bag or whatever messenger bag whatever I [TS]

00:59:32   happen to be carrying more likely a [TS]

00:59:34   backpack this is the second topic for [TS]

00:59:37   the show if you think we have time yeah [TS]

00:59:39   let's hit the second time second topic [TS]

00:59:40   second topic is all my new electronics [TS]

00:59:44   purchases which I will now complain [TS]

00:59:46   about Wow how do you think we have [TS]

00:59:50   enough time for that could be that could [TS]

00:59:51   be huge I could just have one the [TS]

00:59:53   highlight but at one of the thought [TS]

00:59:55   lovers was a upgraded by [TS]

00:59:55   lovers was a upgraded by [TS]

01:00:00   wireless now my wireless my internet [TS]

01:00:01   connection at home so now I am thirty [TS]

01:00:04   five megabits up and down you're on the [TS]

01:00:06   for those who don't remember these [TS]

01:00:07   conversations you have FiOS or feet feos [TS]

01:00:10   as you say mm-hm and this is provided to [TS]

01:00:14   you by what company is it as Verizon yes [TS]

01:00:18   and that means you have 35 up and down [TS]

01:00:21   simultaneous yes it's like a paradise [TS]

01:00:24   it's like living you you literally live [TS]

01:00:26   in heaven it's pretty good but you could [TS]

01:00:30   go up to what a hundred 100 by a hundred [TS]

01:00:32   right well it's all I'm sure they will [TS]

01:00:34   keep cranking it up like this is the [TS]

01:00:36   same price as my old 25 15 because they [TS]

01:00:38   just for because of competitive pressure [TS]

01:00:40   because I can also get Comcast here and [TS]

01:00:41   I can also get RCN I believe so there is [TS]

01:00:43   competitive pressure I can get more [TS]

01:00:45   download speeds from Comcast but Comcast [TS]

01:00:47   connections are comically asymmetrical [TS]

01:00:51   where it's like 72 megabits down and to [TS]

01:00:53   up and that's no way to live it's no way [TS]

01:00:55   to live so yeah I do this and Verizon [TS]

01:00:58   not that good about capping you either [TS]

01:00:59   because I do those speed test sites I [TS]

01:01:01   don't know accurate those are maybe [TS]

01:01:02   they're maybe they're fudged but I [TS]

01:01:04   always get more than 35 I get like up to [TS]

01:01:06   45 megabits down just because there's [TS]

01:01:09   probably too much work for them to [TS]

01:01:10   accurately cap the download speeds in [TS]

01:01:12   some situations but I do like having [TS]

01:01:14   good although speed but anyway as part [TS]

01:01:15   of that was part of a big reshuffling [TS]

01:01:17   that I did and my big reshuffling was [TS]

01:01:19   finally getting rid of the standard [TS]

01:01:20   definition television in the bedroom [TS]

01:01:22   which had built-in DVD player and like [TS]

01:01:25   the kids would watch movies in there [TS]

01:01:26   occasionally and it had my old series [TS]

01:01:28   two dual tuner TiVo attached to it [TS]

01:01:31   recording standard def programs and I [TS]

01:01:34   had one of those giant Verizon standard [TS]

01:01:37   definition cable tuner things attached [TS]

01:01:39   to it and then the TiVo would have to [TS]

01:01:42   talk to the giant standard definition [TS]

01:01:43   cable tuner thing either through an IR [TS]

01:01:45   blaster or through a serial cable and we [TS]

01:01:49   use serial cable because I thought it [TS]

01:01:50   would be more reliable but occasionally [TS]

01:01:51   the Teva would fail to correctly change [TS]

01:01:53   the channel on the tuner and record the [TS]

01:01:55   wrong channel and it's just it was just [TS]

01:01:57   a mess and we knew you know it was only [TS]

01:02:00   a matter of time before that all got [TS]

01:02:01   replaced with HD so I got a new HDTV up [TS]

01:02:03   there I moved the the TiVo HD XL from [TS]

01:02:08   downstairs to the upstairs I bought a [TS]

01:02:10   blu-ray player for the upstairs and it's [TS]

01:02:12   like Christmas in your house [TS]

01:02:13   so now it's now the kids can watch the [TS]

01:02:15   movies on their still because you know [TS]

01:02:17   once the TV goes with DVD player at Matt [TS]

01:02:19   meant that I needed to get a new Tebow [TS]

01:02:20   for downstairs and rather than talking [TS]

01:02:21   about all those other things that I did [TS]

01:02:23   and by the way I did this in a one giant [TS]

01:02:26   thing where I had to get the Verizon [TS]

01:02:29   change to the service the new cable card [TS]

01:02:31   the new Internet service limits it also [TS]

01:02:35   changed my phone system changed the [TS]

01:02:37   channel lineups that I was receiving an [TS]

01:02:38   HDTV bought a new television bought the [TS]

01:02:40   blu-ray player they replace the TiVo [TS]

01:02:44   with a new TiVo all the new cabling the [TS]

01:02:48   new wireless connection for the upstairs [TS]

01:02:49   TiVo because there's no wire thing I had [TS]

01:02:50   to get all that stuff arrived at the [TS]

01:02:51   house at the same time so that I could [TS]

01:02:53   sit down when the weekend actually came [TS]

01:02:54   and do everything at once while everyone [TS]

01:02:56   was out of the house in like two or [TS]

01:02:57   three hours without saying oh I missed [TS]

01:03:00   the cable or all this doesn't work or [TS]

01:03:01   this thing didn't arrive in time and it [TS]

01:03:02   was pretty successful basically had [TS]

01:03:04   everything arrived at the house within a [TS]

01:03:05   day or two of each other [TS]

01:03:06   all that was ready and waiting on the [TS]

01:03:08   Saturday the kids and the wife leave the [TS]

01:03:10   house to go on their their morning [TS]

01:03:12   activities and then I just descend on [TS]

01:03:14   the living room and bedroom and tear [TS]

01:03:15   everything up the only thing I was [TS]

01:03:17   missing was a right-angle HDMI connector [TS]

01:03:20   so that the cable doesn't poke out of [TS]

01:03:22   the side of the upstairs I can't believe [TS]

01:03:24   that all you forgot that I mean come on [TS]

01:03:25   like who does that though that that's [TS]

01:03:27   one of my minor complaints about the [TS]

01:03:28   television which I don't won't talk [TS]

01:03:30   about today but there's four HDMI inputs [TS]

01:03:33   on it and it didn't think to look where [TS]

01:03:34   they were and so one HDMI input is on [TS]

01:03:37   the back and I goes to the TiVo but then [TS]

01:03:39   the blu-ray player has to go into one of [TS]

01:03:40   the all three other inputs were on the [TS]

01:03:42   side you know and like so one or two on [TS]

01:03:45   the side is for when you want to just [TS]

01:03:46   connect something up temporarily but who [TS]

01:03:47   puts three inputs on the side and one on [TS]

01:03:49   the back because then you have this [TS]

01:03:51   cable poka straight out of the side and [TS]

01:03:52   you try to bend it so it doesn't you [TS]

01:03:54   know then you look at the TV and can [TS]

01:03:55   always see this little curve of a cable [TS]

01:03:56   poking out of the side so I had to buy a [TS]

01:03:58   right-angle HDMI adapter so that the [TS]

01:04:01   cable wouldn't poke into the side does [TS]

01:04:02   the one thing I didn't have arrived in [TS]

01:04:03   time but everything else I had [TS]

01:04:04   everything all together and it all [TS]

01:04:06   worked [TS]

01:04:06   no Verizon still had to come to the [TS]

01:04:08   house the cable card activation worked [TS]

01:04:10   nicely but the main thing I want to talk [TS]

01:04:12   about is the new Tivo for downstairs [TS]

01:04:14   which I had been putting off buying for [TS]

01:04:16   a long time and that is the TiVo premier [TS]

01:04:18   elite I didn't want to buy a new TV [TS]

01:04:20   premier because as I talked about on the [TS]

01:04:21   very first episode of the show many [TS]

01:04:23   complaints about TiVo and [TS]

01:04:25   I couldn't believe that the Tebow [TS]

01:04:28   products user interface and experience [TS]

01:04:31   of using continues to get worse even as [TS]

01:04:33   time progresses and in theory hardware [TS]

01:04:35   gets faster and the premiere in [TS]

01:04:37   particular changed its interface I [TS]

01:04:41   believe they're using flash for it but [TS]

01:04:43   whatever they're using it was way slower [TS]

01:04:45   to navigate the menus you'd hit down [TS]

01:04:46   down down and thing would go down oh you [TS]

01:04:49   want to go down again down did you sit [TS]

01:04:51   down I don't know that he sit down I'll [TS]

01:04:52   check all you sit down [TS]

01:04:53   it was just maddeningly slow so slow it [TS]

01:04:56   was unusable so recently the premier [TS]

01:04:59   elite came out which is a permit Evo [TS]

01:05:01   premier but instead of having two tuners [TS]

01:05:03   it has four tuners and a big giant hard [TS]

01:05:05   drive and all sorts of other fancy stuff [TS]

01:05:07   and as part of that release they [TS]

01:05:08   released a software update initially [TS]

01:05:11   only for the premiere leap I think now [TS]

01:05:13   you can get it on any premier that [TS]

01:05:14   supposedly made things faster made the [TS]

01:05:18   menus not seem so horrendously slow [TS]

01:05:20   because I'd used a friend of Mines TiVo [TS]

01:05:22   premier when he first got it and I said [TS]

01:05:24   oh this is so horrible I I can't buy [TS]

01:05:25   this I have to wait until they address [TS]

01:05:28   this in some way so the premier elite [TS]

01:05:29   and the software update the company it [TS]

01:05:31   seemed to address it in some way and I [TS]

01:05:33   think I talked about in a show sometime [TS]

01:05:36   in the middle of the run of this show [TS]

01:05:38   about about that software update and [TS]

01:05:40   said well and the TiVo premiere elite [TS]

01:05:41   saying is the elite does the elite have [TS]

01:05:42   a faster CPU does it have more RAM we [TS]

01:05:46   know it has a bigger hard drive but is [TS]

01:05:47   there anything about it other than the [TS]

01:05:48   software update that makes it faster I [TS]

01:05:50   think in my research I determined [TS]

01:05:52   basically that it's all the software [TS]

01:05:54   update that makes this thing faster but [TS]

01:05:56   either way I like the fact that the [TS]

01:05:59   menus wouldn't be so like unusable slow [TS]

01:06:02   and I had to buy a new TV and I can't [TS]

01:06:04   buy the one I have upstairs the TiVo HD [TS]

01:06:06   and that one angers me greatly anyway [TS]

01:06:08   because the name of the product is TiVo [TS]

01:06:10   HD but it doesn't have a high definition [TS]

01:06:12   interface a user interface not that [TS]

01:06:14   drove me not so here here's the the list [TS]

01:06:16   of the good and the bad about this new [TS]

01:06:18   product a lot of people knew I was [TS]

01:06:19   getting the TiVo premier lead wanted to [TS]

01:06:20   hear what I thought of it [TS]

01:06:22   the good it's got four tuners and he can [TS]

01:06:27   record four shows at the same time that [TS]

01:06:29   really works it works fine is to to [TS]

01:06:31   cable cards for that no one cable card [TS]

01:06:34   one cable card one multi-stream cable [TS]

01:06:36   card activation was pretty darn [TS]

01:06:39   let's just plug it into the back of the [TS]

01:06:40   thing fall there's it's getting this [TS]

01:06:42   thing I I feel bad for anybody who's not [TS]

01:06:45   a nerd who it would have the the amount [TS]

01:06:47   of stuff arrived at their house that are [TS]

01:06:49   out you know because you get the cable [TS]

01:06:50   card and that comes in a package with [TS]

01:06:52   extensive incredibly detailed [TS]

01:06:54   instructions that how to set it up and [TS]

01:06:56   then you get the TiVo which also comes [TS]

01:06:58   with like a giant fold-out post their [TS]

01:07:01   card instructions a link to your elf [TS]

01:07:03   instructions a giant manual of [TS]

01:07:04   instructions just really detailed [TS]

01:07:06   extensive instructions and step-by-step [TS]

01:07:08   how to set things up and then of course [TS]

01:07:10   you have a television which has similar [TS]

01:07:11   instructions all those instructions can [TS]

01:07:13   flick with each other none of them agree [TS]

01:07:15   in any way it's up you were presented [TS]

01:07:17   with a like well if I follow the the [TS]

01:07:19   instructions that came with the cable [TS]

01:07:21   card I can't also follow the [TS]

01:07:22   instructions came with the TiVo but I [TS]

01:07:24   follow the instructions come with the [TS]

01:07:25   TiVo at some point I have to do the [TS]

01:07:26   things it's on if I didn't know what to [TS]

01:07:29   do I would have been entirely lost [TS]

01:07:31   because everyone wants to help you and [TS]

01:07:33   they want to do they want to provide you [TS]

01:07:36   with incredibly detailed instructions [TS]

01:07:37   but none of them know about each other [TS]

01:07:38   because Verizon doesn't know that I have [TS]

01:07:40   a TiVo premier and Tibor you doesn't [TS]

01:07:41   know that I have Verizon [TS]

01:07:42   you know I feel bad for the people who [TS]

01:07:45   have to set this up themselves it is not [TS]

01:07:47   simple at all so but the four tuners one [TS]

01:07:52   multi-screen cable card no problems [TS]

01:07:54   records for shows can watch another one [TS]

01:07:56   absolutely no problem I'm in the good [TS]

01:07:59   section so I won't say what's bad about [TS]

01:08:00   for tuners way too that Dan and the next [TS]

01:08:03   good item is that it does have an HD [TS]

01:08:06   interface that means the menu screens [TS]

01:08:07   are rendered in high-definition [TS]

01:08:09   previously believe it or not the menus [TS]

01:08:10   were rendered in standard definition and [TS]

01:08:13   stretched to fill a sixteen by nine [TS]

01:08:15   screen so one of the major interface [TS]

01:08:18   elements in the TiVo user interface is a [TS]

01:08:20   colored circle next to your program that [TS]

01:08:22   indicates the age of that program and [TS]

01:08:24   whether it's about to be deleted or [TS]

01:08:25   whether it's been permanently saved and [TS]

01:08:26   so every program had a little circle [TS]

01:08:29   along the side of it well if you take a [TS]

01:08:31   standard def interface and stretch it to [TS]

01:08:33   a 16 by 9 HD screen all the circles [TS]

01:08:35   become ovals and it looks silly and [TS]

01:08:38   stupid and so now finally finally TiVo a [TS]

01:08:42   product from TiVo and the premiere had [TS]

01:08:44   this too not just the premiere elite [TS]

01:08:46   program Pivo has a high definition user [TS]

01:08:48   interface in which these circles are [TS]

01:08:50   actually circular [TS]

01:08:51   this ends the good portion of because [TS]

01:08:55   this review I guess I should also say [TS]

01:08:58   the implied thing and all this is that [TS]

01:09:01   for all the complaints I'm about to make [TS]

01:09:03   about TiVo the reason I keep buying them [TS]

01:09:05   is because I know of no better DVR [TS]

01:09:07   product and what I want is a DVR [TS]

01:09:09   I want a DVR that does these things they [TS]

01:09:11   can record many shows at once that [TS]

01:09:12   accepts my you know cable subscription [TS]

01:09:15   all my premium channels and records them [TS]

01:09:16   for me and TiVo is the best product I [TS]

01:09:19   family does that so for all these things [TS]

01:09:20   I'm going to complain about which are [TS]

01:09:22   all entirely true I don't leave the [TS]

01:09:25   product or not buy it or buy something [TS]

01:09:26   different because everything else I've [TS]

01:09:28   looked at has been worse in some way to [TS]

01:09:31   me so for example setting up my own [TS]

01:09:33   media center PC I don't want to deal [TS]

01:09:35   with that stuff I want it to be like [TS]

01:09:36   TiVo where it's an appliance and I don't [TS]

01:09:38   have to worry about I just want it to be [TS]

01:09:39   good and not bad the the DVR that comes [TS]

01:09:43   with it you know the FiOS TV are the [TS]

01:09:45   ones that come with Comcast or any of [TS]

01:09:46   the cable company DVRs I've used them [TS]

01:09:48   18t u-verse I've tried them all out at [TS]

01:09:50   other people's houses I do not like them [TS]

01:09:52   they are much worse if I had to do a [TS]

01:09:53   review of any of those products it would [TS]

01:09:55   be even worse than what I'm about to say [TS]

01:09:56   about the TiVo premier elite so don't [TS]

01:09:59   take this as saying I'm not a fan of [TS]

01:10:00   TiVo I've been user people forever they [TS]

01:10:03   are the best that a thing that does what [TS]

01:10:06   I wanted to do they just have so so far [TS]

01:10:08   to go so the bad what's bad about this [TS]

01:10:13   the menu UI though it is not unusable [TS]

01:10:16   slow is still SuperDuper slow and is [TS]

01:10:18   still slower than the TiVo hd's menu [TS]

01:10:21   system and the TiVo HD menu system in [TS]

01:10:24   turn was slower than it's your TiVo [TS]

01:10:27   series - I don't remember long enough [TS]

01:10:29   ago to say whether the TiVo series one [TS]

01:10:31   had slower men had faster menus in the [TS]

01:10:33   series - but I wouldn't be surprised if [TS]

01:10:35   that was the case as I think I said on [TS]

01:10:38   the first show there's some I can [TS]

01:10:40   imagine some kind of allowance for the [TS]

01:10:42   fact that when the TiVo product line [TS]

01:10:44   went from recording standard definition [TS]

01:10:47   television to high-definition television [TS]

01:10:48   it's a tremendous increase in the [TS]

01:10:49   processing power required to do that and [TS]

01:10:52   the storage space and the i/o and [TS]

01:10:54   everything it's just it's a big leap to [TS]

01:10:56   go from standard def to HD it's like I [TS]

01:10:57   don't know if it's 10 times as much but [TS]

01:10:59   is it a huge amount of extra data and [TS]

01:11:01   complexity and computation [TS]

01:11:03   so I will give an allowance for during [TS]

01:11:05   that transition period when they're [TS]

01:11:07   changing from aged from standard-def to [TS]

01:11:08   HD that it's okay for that first HD [TS]

01:11:13   machine to feel a little bit slower but [TS]

01:11:14   the overall trend over the 10-year life [TS]

01:11:17   of the company or whatever should be [TS]

01:11:18   that the user interface gets faster as [TS]

01:11:22   as time marches on because as time [TS]

01:11:24   marches on Hardware gets better and [TS]

01:11:26   things should get faster the iPad 2 [TS]

01:11:29   feels faster than the iPad 1 the iPad 3 [TS]

01:11:32   I imagine will fail faster than the iPad [TS]

01:11:33   2 certainly when the iPad has been out [TS]

01:11:35   for 10 years comparing the user [TS]

01:11:37   interface speed of the iPad 2 to the [TS]

01:11:39   iPad 17 the iPad 17 should not feel [TS]

01:11:42   slower am I crazy but every time I bring [TS]

01:11:45   this up someone says what are you [TS]

01:11:46   talking about Craig who cares how it's [TS]

01:11:47   chip is fine it's not bad you should get [TS]

01:11:50   faster shit crazy right it should it's [TS]

01:11:53   just like it flies in the face of of [TS]

01:11:56   logic and it's just crazy so the user [TS]

01:12:00   interface is slower it's slower than the [TS]

01:12:02   TiVo HD I don't like that I bought a [TS]

01:12:04   more expensive machine presumably with [TS]

01:12:07   more powerful hardware it shouldn't feel [TS]

01:12:08   slower I should be able to go down down [TS]

01:12:10   down down down and be down that number [TS]

01:12:12   of items not wait for the thing to catch [TS]

01:12:14   up not see it miss my my particular [TS]

01:12:16   click J Flynn wrote in to tell me that [TS]

01:12:18   the Bluetooth remote tiwa does sell [TS]

01:12:21   Bluetooth remote with like a slider [TS]

01:12:22   keyboard on it feels faster because I [TS]

01:12:25   guess it takes the IR a recognition out [TS]

01:12:27   of the loop right I don't like the [TS]

01:12:29   Bluetooth remote because it's shorter [TS]

01:12:30   and squatter so I haven't tried it but I [TS]

01:12:33   ought that my friend of mine has it [TS]

01:12:35   maybe I'll try his remote and see if [TS]

01:12:37   that makes it feel faster but it's my [TS]

01:12:40   impression that it's not just like the [TS]

01:12:41   IR signaling because it's the series 2 [TS]

01:12:43   in the series one had IR 2 and they felt [TS]

01:12:44   much faster you go you as fast as you [TS]

01:12:46   can hit that little button down it would [TS]

01:12:47   move move down and speaking of the [TS]

01:12:49   remote one thing they changed in the [TS]

01:12:50   remote it looks same on the outside but [TS]

01:12:52   they switch from four triple-a batteries [TS]

01:12:55   the two double-a batteries and the four [TS]

01:12:57   triple-a batteries were arranged in like [TS]

01:12:59   a grid - on top of two the two double A [TS]

01:13:02   batteries are side-by-side and that [TS]

01:13:05   shifts the center of mass backwards on [TS]

01:13:07   the remote a little bit and makes it [TS]

01:13:08   feel less balanced to me I'm getting it [TS]

01:13:10   - superb nitpicking but I over refer [TS]

01:13:12   everyone to the title of the show I did [TS]

01:13:15   like it better when the weight was more [TS]

01:13:17   evenly distributed [TS]

01:13:17   through the remote maybe I get more [TS]

01:13:19   battery life out of these other two [TS]

01:13:20   doublea's but we'll see so the second [TS]

01:13:23   thing with the menus is that despite the [TS]

01:13:25   fact that they put a high definition [TS]

01:13:26   menus in the circles and now actually [TS]

01:13:28   circles the old menu system is still [TS]

01:13:32   there lurking very near underneath the [TS]

01:13:35   surface so if you go into like settings [TS]

01:13:37   or something or one of the other screens [TS]

01:13:39   suddenly you're back into the old menus [TS]

01:13:40   the old-style menus I I don't think [TS]

01:13:44   they're standard def or maybe our [TS]

01:13:46   standard Devon stretch but it's not [TS]

01:13:47   there's a there's a new look for the [TS]

01:13:48   menus of a side by side thing of like a [TS]

01:13:50   primary and a detail view in this header [TS]

01:13:52   and if you do anything out of the [TS]

01:13:55   ordinary your switch back into the old [TS]

01:13:56   menus this kills me because TiVo the [TS]

01:14:01   first high-definition TiVo came out in [TS]

01:14:02   2006 which was six years ago and right [TS]

01:14:04   we're close to six years ago how long do [TS]

01:14:07   you think it should take the company to [TS]

01:14:08   convert this entire product line to to [TS]

01:14:10   have the user interface in HD how long [TS]

01:14:13   before we don't see those old menus any [TS]

01:14:15   more certainly for example the new Apple [TS]

01:14:18   TV that's coming out they've redid the [TS]

01:14:19   menus there is renewing the menus in the [TS]

01:14:21   Apple TV I suspect that when you go more [TS]

01:14:24   than two menus deep you won't suddenly [TS]

01:14:25   seen the old Apple TV man you know they [TS]

01:14:26   redid the whole thing and by the way the [TS]

01:14:28   whole thing is in HD [TS]

01:14:29   somehow Apple can do this on a yearly [TS]

01:14:30   basis and it was six years time people [TS]

01:14:32   can still not expunge the standard [TS]

01:14:34   definition or old style menus from its [TS]

01:14:36   system can you reason out what why can [TS]

01:14:38   you reason it out from a software [TS]

01:14:40   developer standpoint return on [TS]

01:14:42   investment maybe or like that maybe they [TS]

01:14:45   invested in like because they think who [TS]

01:14:47   cares about this only people like me [TS]

01:14:48   care about the menus are NHD or you care [TS]

01:14:52   about the jarring transitions do they [TS]

01:14:53   say well if we had to dedicate we have [TS]

01:14:54   these menus that work we have this whole [TS]

01:14:56   system that works why don't we just redo [TS]

01:14:58   the menus most people see most of the [TS]

01:14:59   time but leave the more obscure menus in [TS]

01:15:01   the old style because that's a better [TS]

01:15:02   returner it's just it's bad [TS]

01:15:04   prioritization I think it's not it's not [TS]

01:15:06   as if the engineers are at fault here [TS]

01:15:08   it's management deciding what we're [TS]

01:15:09   going to pay money to fix and what [TS]

01:15:11   they're going to do is make a fancy new [TS]

01:15:12   UI and their only going to hit the the [TS]

01:15:15   seven screens that people are most [TS]

01:15:16   likely to see and the old obscure ones [TS]

01:15:18   just use the old UI and the other thing [TS]

01:15:20   might be that they use flash for the new [TS]

01:15:21   interface and found out that it was not [TS]

01:15:23   great performance wise and one of the [TS]

01:15:26   options on the TiVo both in the premiere [TS]

01:15:29   and merely is you can say [TS]

01:15:31   let me use the old menu so you can [TS]

01:15:32   switch the whole thing back to the old [TS]

01:15:33   ugly user interface with the ovals and [TS]

01:15:35   the stretched standard F stuff that is [TS]

01:15:38   like a vote of no-confidence in your UI [TS]

01:15:39   saying we made this fancy new UI but if [TS]

01:15:42   you don't want to use it you can totally [TS]

01:15:43   switch back to the old way which by the [TS]

01:15:45   way is still not standard F and so it [TS]

01:15:49   does really amazed me that like maybe [TS]

01:15:51   that's your thing for your first HD [TS]

01:15:53   product well we'll just add it the [TS]

01:15:54   highlights let's not you know for the [TS]

01:15:56   first HD procs didn't do the redo the [TS]

01:15:58   main usability both series 3 use the [TS]

01:15:59   standard def menus that was in 2006 the [TS]

01:16:02   TiVo HD which is like a more affordable [TS]

01:16:03   version of the the fancier season 3 in [TS]

01:16:06   2007 use the standard def menus only in [TS]

01:16:09   2010 four years after they made the [TS]

01:16:11   transition to HD they put the very first [TS]

01:16:13   high definition menu anywhere in their [TS]

01:16:15   product 2010 four years later after the [TS]

01:16:18   transition to HD the very first High [TS]

01:16:20   Definition menu appears and then at that [TS]

01:16:22   point it still not all the menus and [TS]

01:16:23   here we are in 2011 the premier elite [TS]

01:16:26   still standard menu and by the way when [TS]

01:16:28   it changed the standard F menus if you [TS]

01:16:30   don't have if you have the thing set to [TS]

01:16:31   do native output because you want your [TS]

01:16:33   television to do the scaling for you [TS]

01:16:34   like I would set the Telos to do native [TS]

01:16:36   output so it's a 720p sense 720p to my [TS]

01:16:39   TV because I have more conference than [TS]

01:16:40   my fancy TV can display 720p then I do [TS]

01:16:44   to that allow the TiVo to do the [TS]

01:16:47   conversion for you like you can tell [TS]

01:16:48   TiVo always output 1080i no matter what [TS]

01:16:50   the signal is that the show is 720p [TS]

01:16:52   converted to 1080i and put it and send [TS]

01:16:54   it to my TV or convert attend 1080p and [TS]

01:16:57   send it to my TV I would rather have my [TS]

01:16:59   television decide how to display 720p [TS]

01:17:02   content how to display 1080i how to [TS]

01:17:04   display 1080p cuz my television cost [TS]

01:17:07   more money than my TiVo and I have more [TS]

01:17:08   faith those people know what they're [TS]

01:17:09   doing but that means that when you [TS]

01:17:12   change menus and it changes from like [TS]

01:17:14   you know a 1080i menu in the hi-def to [TS]

01:17:17   the 720p which is a stretched version of [TS]

01:17:19   the standard def menu you get this [TS]

01:17:21   flickering and the whole screen goes [TS]

01:17:22   black and it changes then terrible it's [TS]

01:17:25   it's it's you know if you showed TiVo to [TS]

01:17:27   Steve Jobs he would his head would [TS]

01:17:28   explode everything wrong with it you [TS]

01:17:32   could possibly imagine [TS]

01:17:33   yeah so the new UI does say okay we've [TS]

01:17:40   got a wider screen now so now we're [TS]

01:17:42   sixteen by nine and we can put things [TS]

01:17:43   side-by-side but [TS]

01:17:44   good take advantage of the wider screen [TS]

01:17:46   but they did move some stuff down the [TS]

01:17:48   lower level in the sort of menu stack so [TS]

01:17:50   one of the items that I use a lot is to [TS]

01:17:52   keep until thing where you go into a [TS]

01:17:53   show and you tell it out I have this [TS]

01:17:56   season pass set for you to delete the [TS]

01:17:58   shows if you need space but actually [TS]

01:18:00   this particular episode I really want to [TS]

01:18:02   watch so keep this show until I delete [TS]

01:18:04   it and that changes the little circle [TS]

01:18:05   next to the thing - a green circle so [TS]

01:18:07   blue circle means that we just recorded [TS]

01:18:08   yellow circle means is getting kind of [TS]

01:18:09   old in yellow circle the exclamation [TS]

01:18:12   point means I was going to get deleted [TS]

01:18:13   soon and then green means will never [TS]

01:18:15   automatically delete this will keep a [TS]

01:18:17   trip and so I frequently go through like [TS]

01:18:19   you know we have these kids programs [TS]

01:18:20   recording for my children and [TS]

01:18:21   occasionally my son or daughter will say [TS]

01:18:23   I really liked that episode I don't say [TS]

01:18:25   it they'll keep asking for it and I'll [TS]

01:18:26   realize oh geez I better I better keep [TS]

01:18:29   the Martha speaks episode where they go [TS]

01:18:31   camping because it seems like the kids [TS]

01:18:32   asked for it all the time so let me mark [TS]

01:18:34   it as green let me mark it - to keep it [TS]

01:18:36   forever so the other episodes will just [TS]

01:18:37   go off the end in turn or whatever but [TS]

01:18:39   any time they want to see the camping [TS]

01:18:40   episode I'll know I have it and that's a [TS]

01:18:42   frequent ask that I do on a per show [TS]

01:18:44   basis not saying keep every single [TS]

01:18:45   Martha speaks you record forever but [TS]

01:18:47   just the particular episodes the kids [TS]

01:18:48   wants I mark now that that's two more [TS]

01:18:50   menus deep in the menu structure I would [TS]

01:18:53   really like a shortcut for that there is [TS]

01:18:55   a shortcut for delete if you highlight a [TS]

01:18:56   program and hit the clear key it will [TS]

01:18:58   delete the program amelie instead of you [TS]

01:18:59   having to go into the program select [TS]

01:19:01   delete from the menu or whatever there's [TS]

01:19:03   no shortcut for keep until I delete [TS]

01:19:06   which is like well fine you can't have a [TS]

01:19:08   shortcut for everything but the tebow [TS]

01:19:10   premier remote adds four buttons to it [TS]

01:19:12   or four or five it's like it's got a [TS]

01:19:14   color buttons like red green yellow blue [TS]

01:19:16   whatever those buttons you normally see [TS]

01:19:18   on on a blu-ray remote control and maybe [TS]

01:19:21   you don't have a blu-ray player I don't [TS]

01:19:23   but I've seen ya the colored buttons [TS]

01:19:25   they put on they have a green button [TS]

01:19:26   it's not being used for anything you [TS]

01:19:28   push the green button when the program [TS]

01:19:29   is highlighted and nothing happens it [TS]

01:19:31   seems like if that should be the thing [TS]

01:19:33   they should make to make the little [TS]

01:19:34   thing green stuff like that it makes me [TS]

01:19:38   think that that someone's not paying [TS]

01:19:40   attention details the other one another [TS]

01:19:41   example they would probably make Steve [TS]

01:19:42   Jobs head explode is actually I don't [TS]

01:19:45   even have this in my notes beche talk [TS]

01:19:47   but anyway so when I got the new dinner [TS]

01:19:49   TiVo as you can imagine of someone who [TS]

01:19:51   lives their life on TiVo and has two [TS]

01:19:53   kids we have a tremendous number of [TS]

01:19:56   season passes season passes are where [TS]

01:19:57   you tell [TS]

01:19:58   TiVo that I will want you to record [TS]

01:20:01   every episode of this program instead of [TS]

01:20:04   me having to manually tell you every [TS]

01:20:05   week to record it that's called the [TS]

01:20:07   season pass and we have many many many [TS]

01:20:09   of those we have ones for kid shows ones [TS]

01:20:11   for the shows that we watch and you can [TS]

01:20:12   put different options on you can say [TS]

01:20:13   record only only the new episodes record [TS]

01:20:16   repeats and the new episodes how long [TS]

01:20:18   should I keep them should I keep them so [TS]

01:20:19   you watch them or should I delete them [TS]

01:20:21   if you don't watch them for a while all [TS]

01:20:22   sorts of options and then you prioritize [TS]

01:20:25   them it's like a big long list and you [TS]

01:20:26   reorder them so that there's a priority [TS]

01:20:29   order saying okay well these two shows [TS]

01:20:30   conflict let me see which one is higher [TS]

01:20:32   in the priority stack and I will pick [TS]

01:20:34   that one to record so as you can imagine [TS]

01:20:36   after it must be like 10 years of using [TS]

01:20:38   steve-o's or maybe not that long but a [TS]

01:20:41   pretty long time we have a big [TS]

01:20:43   complicated stack of season passes in a [TS]

01:20:46   particular order so that we get the [TS]

01:20:47   shows recorded that we want to be [TS]

01:20:48   recorded and when I get a new device [TS]

01:20:51   unlike you know your iOS devices and [TS]

01:20:53   with iOS 5 and iCloud you don't just [TS]

01:20:56   enter your username and password then it [TS]

01:20:58   sets it up for you it comes to you as an [TS]

01:20:59   empty device that has no idea who you [TS]

01:21:01   are or anything about you and used to be [TS]

01:21:03   that was that was it like when I set up [TS]

01:21:05   my my dual tuner series 2 I plugged in [TS]

01:21:07   and what I had to do was before I [TS]

01:21:09   disconnected the series 1 write down on [TS]

01:21:12   a piece of paper this was a long time [TS]

01:21:13   ago folks we had Pittsburgh the names of [TS]

01:21:17   all the season passes noting in me of [TS]

01:21:19   the options in the order that they were [TS]

01:21:21   and then I would sit there with the [TS]

01:21:22   remote control in front of the series 2 [TS]

01:21:23   entering all these season passes again [TS]

01:21:25   with a with a five-way control up down [TS]

01:21:27   left right and select up down left right [TS]

01:21:28   and select it takes a long time so I was [TS]

01:21:31   excited to see on the TiVo website which [TS]

01:21:34   they've been slowly trying to add [TS]

01:21:35   features to that there's a thing to [TS]

01:21:37   transfer your season passes for one [TS]

01:21:38   device to another through with a web [TS]

01:21:40   interface now ignoring the fact that in [TS]

01:21:43   this day and age should be more like iOS [TS]

01:21:45   5 where you just enter something in and [TS]

01:21:46   it syncs a lot for you I'm like you know [TS]

01:21:49   don't look a gift horse in the mouth [TS]

01:21:50   just go to the go to the mouth go to the [TS]

01:21:52   website and do this transfer thing I [TS]

01:21:56   mean it doesn't hurt like how could it [TS]

01:21:57   possibly cause any problems because when [TS]

01:21:59   you get the thing out of the box it's [TS]

01:22:00   got nothing on it so even if it doesn't [TS]

01:22:01   work you have nothing to lose because [TS]

01:22:03   you're starting with an empty box if it [TS]

01:22:04   doesn't work well you got an empty box [TS]

01:22:05   or whatever so I hope the thing up get [TS]

01:22:08   everything ready go to the website go to [TS]

01:22:10   the season pass [TS]

01:22:12   thing pick you know the TiVo HD XL from [TS]

01:22:16   the source thing pick TiVo from years of [TS]

01:22:17   destination select all the bunch of [TS]

01:22:19   checkboxes select all the checkboxes and [TS]

01:22:21   say transfer please I click the button [TS]

01:22:23   it goes grind grind grind shows me a [TS]

01:22:25   little spinner thing or whatever and [TS]

01:22:27   after a couple minutes of that it pops [TS]

01:22:28   up a thing that says the following [TS]

01:22:30   season passes could not be transferred [TS]

01:22:31   and it shows the entire list of season [TS]

01:22:34   paths it's another very bottom it says [TS]

01:22:35   this could be because the this may be [TS]

01:22:38   because the channel lineups are not [TS]

01:22:39   identical on the t-bo's or at some [TS]

01:22:43   obscure message like that and so what am [TS]

01:22:45   I supposed to do with this information [TS]

01:22:46   the channel lineups are not identical [TS]

01:22:48   they're connected to the same cable did [TS]

01:22:49   I set up the channel lineups differently [TS]

01:22:51   am I going to go to the upstairs TiVo on [TS]

01:22:53   the downstairs TiVo and compare their [TS]

01:22:56   channel by Janet because you can turn [TS]

01:22:58   channels on and off like you can say I [TS]

01:22:59   don't want to see the standard F [TS]

01:23:00   channels or I don't want to see you know [TS]

01:23:02   HBO Latino or whatever because I don't [TS]

01:23:05   understand Spanish like you can turn [TS]

01:23:06   them on and off do I have to get and by [TS]

01:23:08   the way I have like a thousand channels [TS]

01:23:10   on my FiOS subscription so I would have [TS]

01:23:12   to go a list oh through a list of a [TS]

01:23:13   thousand things and match up for each [TS]

01:23:15   one so they're identical if I was to [TS]

01:23:16   take that error message at face value [TS]

01:23:17   but as a long time TiVo customer I know [TS]

01:23:20   enough not to take that message at face [TS]

01:23:21   value and I assumed maybe it's just not [TS]

01:23:23   ready for me to transfer season passes [TS]

01:23:25   because it's only been a day or [TS]

01:23:27   something or something hasn't been [TS]

01:23:28   updated in system or god knows what I'm [TS]

01:23:30   just like whatever I tried it a few [TS]

01:23:32   times same error message every time I [TS]

01:23:34   said forget it I'll do it manually so I [TS]

01:23:36   go and I start doing it manually with my [TS]

01:23:38   little written list this time on you [TS]

01:23:40   know and iPad so I don't have to write [TS]

01:23:42   it with a pencil and paper and enter the [TS]

01:23:45   season pass is manually in the order [TS]

01:23:46   that used to be accounting for the fact [TS]

01:23:48   that now I have four tuners no probably [TS]

01:23:50   fewer conflicts and I get them all [TS]

01:23:51   arranged and by the way this is another [TS]

01:23:53   adorable feature of TiVo when you're in [TS]

01:23:56   the season pass list and you are [TS]

01:23:58   rearranging season passes we have over [TS]

01:24:01   100 season passes that sounds crazy but [TS]

01:24:03   there are many things that cause us to [TS]

01:24:05   have over 100 one of them is that TiVo [TS]

01:24:07   has no way to know that the show will [TS]

01:24:10   never air again or that the program info [TS]

01:24:12   change so for one season of Survivor you [TS]

01:24:14   set up a season pass for it when the new [TS]

01:24:16   season of Survivor comes that is a new [TS]

01:24:18   season pass it does realize that this is [TS]

01:24:19   Survivor again right it has [TS]

01:24:21   has no notion of that but that's that's [TS]

01:24:23   across the board [TS]

01:24:24   yeah and and also doesn't realize that [TS]

01:24:26   the old season of Survivor is never [TS]

01:24:28   going to air again you know what I mean [TS]

01:24:30   so that's why we end up with 100 and and [TS]

01:24:32   and it's like why don't you just clean [TS]

01:24:34   them out while I'm getting to that so [TS]

01:24:35   you have this big long list of 100 [TS]

01:24:37   season passes and you wanted to be in a [TS]

01:24:38   certain order so here I am entering them [TS]

01:24:40   and sometimes rearranging them and [TS]

01:24:42   moving stuff in the right place if you [TS]

01:24:45   move one of those season passes in my [TS]

01:24:47   season pass list and say okay please [TS]

01:24:49   move this from slot 4 to slot 5 the [TS]

01:24:51   thing will tell you please wait for five [TS]

01:24:53   minutes sometimes longer go walk away [TS]

01:24:57   you will not be able to use your TiVo [TS]

01:24:59   again for a long long time as you can [TS]

01:25:02   imagine if that's how long it takes to [TS]

01:25:03   move one in one position rearranging the [TS]

01:25:06   entire list would take forever now there [TS]

01:25:08   is a trick where if you go over to the [TS]

01:25:10   moving around thing and you never say [TS]

01:25:12   okay this is where I want it but stay in [TS]

01:25:13   the little moving around column there's [TS]

01:25:15   like little arrows you can go on the [TS]

01:25:16   right side of each item you go up up [TS]

01:25:17   down down if you just stay over there [TS]

01:25:19   and don't accidentally hit left don't [TS]

01:25:22   accidentally hit right and don't [TS]

01:25:23   accidentally hit select but just hit up [TS]

01:25:24   and down you can rearrange all of them [TS]

01:25:27   then say at the end okay now commit and [TS]

01:25:29   then go walk away and and find something [TS]

01:25:31   else to do for five or ten minutes but [TS]

01:25:34   of course you are severely punished by [TS]

01:25:36   accidentally hitting the wrong way and [TS]

01:25:37   the five way pad so here I am carefully [TS]

01:25:39   rearranging this list of things and [TS]

01:25:40   entering stuff first I have to enter [TS]

01:25:42   them all and then I have to arrange them [TS]

01:25:43   all in one step and while I rearrange [TS]

01:25:45   them I can't accidentally hit the arrow [TS]

01:25:46   because I've just lost five minutes of [TS]

01:25:47   time minimize what is walk away [TS]

01:25:49   incredibly frustrating why does it take [TS]

01:25:51   this long to rearrange them I don't know [TS]

01:25:52   is there's some sort of you know [TS]

01:25:54   quadratic algorithm that's that you know [TS]

01:25:57   scaling exponentially inside so that you [TS]

01:25:59   can rearrange one of them in in you know [TS]

01:26:02   one second but you can rearrange 50 of [TS]

01:26:04   them and you have to wait for the heat [TS]

01:26:06   death of the universe I don't know what [TS]

01:26:07   algorithm you see there it's like but [TS]

01:26:10   it's bad maybe they don't expect you to [TS]

01:26:11   have this many season passes maybe I'm [TS]

01:26:13   an outlier or something but it seems to [TS]

01:26:15   me that I'm one of their best customers [TS]

01:26:16   because I'm really using their products [TS]

01:26:18   maybe I'm using it too much but this is [TS]

01:26:20   horrible so I do all this work get [TS]

01:26:22   everything arranged as much as I [TS]

01:26:24   possibly can this is exhausting to sit [TS]

01:26:25   there in front of it you're not being [TS]

01:26:26   entertained I'm not being entertaining [TS]

01:26:27   while I'm doing this I'm just moving [TS]

01:26:29   stuff around getting things set up [TS]

01:26:30   making things so gonna record then go to [TS]

01:26:31   bed wake up the next morning come [TS]

01:26:34   downstairs [TS]

01:26:35   what do I find I find that in the night [TS]

01:26:37   something in TiVo's back-end system [TS]

01:26:40   perhaps their website had decided ok he [TS]

01:26:42   wanted transfer a bunch of season passes [TS]

01:26:43   let me do that for him and shoved some [TS]

01:26:46   crazy subset of season passes not all of [TS]

01:26:48   them mind you but some of them and then [TS]

01:26:50   scrambled the auto randomly so the new [TS]

01:26:54   rule was ok let's never touch that [TS]

01:26:57   website again does the season pass like [TS]

01:26:59   migration thing obviously is pure evil [TS]

01:27:02   we can never go to that page again don't [TS]

01:27:04   even load that page because if we [TS]

01:27:05   actually load that page for all we know [TS]

01:27:07   it's going to scramble our season passes [TS]

01:27:08   again is the whole process all over [TS]

01:27:10   again of rearranging everything not not [TS]

01:27:14   a good user experience Tebow no but and [TS]

01:27:16   yet you're still loyal but yeah I but [TS]

01:27:18   I've got one more this is the one more [TS]

01:27:20   thing but there's one more thing like [TS]

01:27:23   all the stuff I kind of knew what I was [TS]

01:27:24   going to get going to I new season pass [TS]

01:27:25   this load rearranged I figured the [TS]

01:27:27   rearrangement thing was going to be a [TS]

01:27:28   dud and it was it had one little sneaky [TS]

01:27:31   trick where it totally destroyed all my [TS]

01:27:32   work because I dared try to use it and [TS]

01:27:35   it figured out that the channel apps [TS]

01:27:36   weren't the same and tried to do it but [TS]

01:27:39   amazingly amazingly there's one thing [TS]

01:27:42   that even I and my pessimism and [TS]

01:27:43   crankiness could not have predicted it [TS]

01:27:45   would have been worse about this TiVo I [TS]

01:27:46   totally do not predict this so on the [TS]

01:27:49   TiVo there's a little button on the [TS]

01:27:51   remote control called I don't know what [TS]

01:27:55   it's called but it's the 30-second skip [TS]

01:27:57   button that's what a long time TiVo's [TS]

01:27:59   users call it out of the box it wouldn't [TS]

01:28:03   skip for 30 seconds the first TiVo's [TS]

01:28:04   what it would do is skip you to the end [TS]

01:28:06   of the program it's a little picture on [TS]

01:28:08   the button is an arrow with a vertical [TS]

01:28:10   line narrow touching a vertical line [TS]

01:28:12   that sort of universal symbol for goto [TS]

01:28:14   end but there was a secret code you can [TS]

01:28:16   enter in your remote not so secret that [TS]

01:28:18   on the classic old TiVo's would change [TS]

01:28:20   that button from go to the end of the [TS]

01:28:22   program to merely jump forward 30 [TS]

01:28:24   seconds and this button is great for [TS]

01:28:26   skipping commercials because commercials [TS]

01:28:28   tend to come in multiples of 30 seconds [TS]

01:28:30   or close to it anyway and if you entered [TS]

01:28:33   the secret code that button became [TS]

01:28:35   jumped forward 30 seconds and the button [TS]

01:28:37   to the left of it on the other side of [TS]

01:28:38   the remote became go backward [TS]

01:28:40   eight-second so the little sequences [TS]

01:28:42   select play select 30 select that any [TS]

01:28:44   long time TiVo owner can memorize it's [TS]

01:28:46   like the Contra code 41 thinks that and [TS]

01:28:48   that enables 30-second skip so and [TS]

01:28:51   luckily TiVo supports this and remembers [TS]

01:28:53   that even if you reboot the thing or [TS]

01:28:55   unplug from the power it's kind of like [TS]

01:28:57   a nudge-nudge wink-wink supported [TS]

01:28:59   feature of TiVo and has been for many [TS]

01:29:00   many years so when this TiVo came I [TS]

01:29:04   tried the 30-second skip button to see [TS]

01:29:06   what the default was and the default [TS]

01:29:08   does not jump all the way to the end of [TS]

01:29:09   the thing the default is kind of like a [TS]

01:29:10   30-second scan where it moves forward 30 [TS]

01:29:13   seconds but does it in kind of a really [TS]

01:29:15   really fast fast forward even faster [TS]

01:29:16   than the fastest fast-forward that you [TS]

01:29:18   can do with the fast-forward Scan button [TS]

01:29:19   it kind of goes bit into 30 seconds and [TS]

01:29:22   when it does this it does his weird [TS]

01:29:23   animation with the playhead on the [TS]

01:29:25   scrubber on the progress bar where it [TS]

01:29:27   jumps away ahead of where it's supposed [TS]

01:29:28   to be then back and then ahead then back [TS]

01:29:29   does some strange visual stuff I'm like [TS]

01:29:32   ok I don't like that it's better than I [TS]

01:29:33   guess jump to end maybe which you can [TS]

01:29:35   still do with some other sequences of [TS]

01:29:36   inputs but I like I want my 30-second [TS]

01:29:39   skip back so I did it's like place like [TS]

01:29:41   30 select and realized it didn't work I [TS]

01:29:43   wasn't even looking at the screen but I [TS]

01:29:44   realize it didn't work because when [TS]

01:29:45   you're watching you have to type this [TS]

01:29:46   when you're watching television when you [TS]

01:29:49   hit select when you're watching [TS]

01:29:50   television with the new HD interface it [TS]

01:29:51   brings up a menu thing like that [TS]

01:29:53   actually does something unlike on the [TS]

01:29:55   previous TV O's where select did nothing [TS]

01:29:56   and you were just entering your code and [TS]

01:29:57   it was like watching your remote input [TS]

01:30:00   to accept this code so then I'd to go [TS]

01:30:03   back to the computer and say oh surely I [TS]

01:30:04   would have heard about this this was [TS]

01:30:05   actually a problem so a little bit of [TS]

01:30:07   googling around found okay so the secret [TS]

01:30:09   way to enable select place like 30 [TS]

01:30:11   select on your TiVo premiere for all [TS]

01:30:12   those people out there who might be [TS]

01:30:13   wondering how to do this you have to [TS]

01:30:16   switch to the old UI hey finally a use [TS]

01:30:18   for the old for keeping the old UI [TS]

01:30:20   around go to the interface say please [TS]

01:30:22   use the old menus start watching a TV [TS]

01:30:24   program and lo and behold now select [TS]

01:30:25   does nothing and you can do a select [TS]

01:30:26   place like very select done then I [TS]

01:30:29   changed back to the new menus because I [TS]

01:30:31   do actually like them better for for [TS]

01:30:32   finding programs and stuff and hit the [TS]

01:30:35   button and it jumps toward 32nd like yay [TS]

01:30:36   fine turnoff done for the day then when [TS]

01:30:39   I was actually watching TV with it maybe [TS]

01:30:40   it was that night or some other time the [TS]

01:30:42   first commercial break comes along and I [TS]

01:30:43   do my typical thing to pick up the [TS]

01:30:45   remote and go tap tap tap tap tap maybe [TS]

01:30:47   usually like six times or whatever I [TS]

01:30:48   just got how kind of having a two to [TS]

01:30:49   feel for how many multiples of 30 [TS]

01:30:51   seconds so I think this commercial break [TS]

01:30:52   is going to be and as I get down to like [TS]

01:30:55   the six or seven tap look up at the TV [TS]

01:30:56   see if I can see a frame from the from [TS]

01:30:59   the program that I was watching [TS]

01:31:00   the button or maybe go back eight [TS]

01:31:02   seconds the forward thirty back eight [TS]

01:31:05   equation it's kind of hardwired into my [TS]

01:31:07   brain after all these years of doing [TS]

01:31:08   this now what they've managed to do on [TS]

01:31:11   the TiVo premier elite the highest at [TS]

01:31:13   high-end the most expensive the [TS]

01:31:14   presumably most powerful box at TiVo [TS]

01:31:16   sells is that now when you go tap tap [TS]

01:31:19   tap tap tap on a 30-second skip button [TS]

01:31:21   the video does not change it freezes on [TS]

01:31:25   the frame that you are watching before [TS]

01:31:26   the first time you hit the button if it [TS]

01:31:29   doesn't have time between your taps to [TS]

01:31:30   change the frame of the video so you [TS]

01:31:32   have no idea when you should stop [TS]

01:31:33   tapping if you go tap and then wait a [TS]

01:31:35   second then you'll see a frame of video [TS]

01:31:36   then tap and then wait a second oh then [TS]

01:31:38   I see it for any video gotta go more and [TS]

01:31:39   tap and then wait a second they've made [TS]

01:31:43   the performance a 30-second skip worse [TS]

01:31:45   with their more powerful elite super [TS]

01:31:48   expensive highest end product it is now [TS]

01:31:50   basically unusable because how can I [TS]

01:31:52   skip come on like if I wanted to tap in [TS]

01:31:54   and wait for their show frame I might as [TS]

01:31:55   well just scan that's what I'm doing now [TS]

01:31:56   I'm hitting the fast-forward Scan button [TS]

01:31:59   three times like an animal just [TS]

01:32:02   commercial that's no way to will live I [TS]

01:32:04   don't want to see the commercial scan [TS]

01:32:05   past me as a series of little fuzzy [TS]

01:32:08   images and the thing is like how is that [TS]

01:32:11   different what do you care if if it's [TS]

01:32:13   the image of scanning past you first I [TS]

01:32:15   just find that visually uncomfortable [TS]

01:32:17   because what I'm trying to do is watch [TS]

01:32:19   to see when the program is on again I [TS]

01:32:22   don't like seeing the snuggle fabric [TS]

01:32:23   softener bear going dancing by really [TS]

01:32:25   fast or something else it just is it [TS]

01:32:28   just made you that you find that like [TS]

01:32:29   visually uncomfortable to watch [TS]

01:32:31   something in a fast-forward scan with [TS]

01:32:33   the intent that you're trying to see [TS]

01:32:34   when you should stop like you're trying [TS]

01:32:35   to watch you to see when should I stop [TS]

01:32:36   when do the commercials end in the [TS]

01:32:37   program I don't like seeing that which [TS]

01:32:39   is why I love 30-second skip because I [TS]

01:32:41   know that the commercial is gonna be at [TS]

01:32:43   least you know one minute or two minutes [TS]

01:32:44   or three minutes like you get a feel for [TS]

01:32:46   how long the commercial breaks are I [TS]

01:32:47   don't even have to look at the screen [TS]

01:32:48   till the fourth or fifth app when I know [TS]

01:32:49   me near the end and then I just see [TS]

01:32:51   frame frame frame frame thirty seconds [TS]

01:32:53   apart [TS]

01:32:53   as soon as I see the first frame that [TS]

01:32:55   looks like fringe I let go of the button [TS]

01:32:56   or maybe hit back eight you know it just [TS]

01:33:00   verses the scan thing where you do scan [TS]

01:33:02   scan scan stands in and see the program [TS]

01:33:03   and when you hit okay I see the program [TS]

01:33:05   hit play it does this back off thing [TS]

01:33:07   where it realizes you probably overshot [TS]

01:33:08   so it backs off but backs off way [TS]

01:33:10   farther than I need it to because it [TS]

01:33:11   assumes I have the reflexes of an 80 [TS]

01:33:13   year old or something [TS]

01:33:14   so now you really back something off way [TS]

01:33:16   into the in like okay this must be the [TS]

01:33:17   middle the last commercial so just let [TS]

01:33:19   it play and the commercial ends and [TS]

01:33:20   there's another commercial you like it [TS]

01:33:21   pushed me back past two commercials so I [TS]

01:33:23   gotta wait until I see lots of it's just [TS]

01:33:24   incredibly fresh I never would have [TS]

01:33:27   imagined and never would have imagined [TS]

01:33:29   that they would have made 30-second skip [TS]

01:33:32   performance worse in their fancy highest [TS]

01:33:35   and most expensive premiere elite [TS]

01:33:37   product please tube they saw somebody [TS]

01:33:40   somebody send them a hardware engineer I [TS]

01:33:42   think like they're using some sort of [TS]

01:33:44   CPU in there that's probably about [TS]

01:33:46   similar to the CPU that's in my washing [TS]

01:33:47   machine in the basement now it is a [TS]

01:33:49   ten-cent part they cost them nothing and [TS]

01:33:52   they have you know their h.264 encoder [TS]

01:33:54   decoders and stuff whatever my you know [TS]

01:33:57   my wife's MacBook Air as I don't know [TS]

01:34:00   what kind of CPUs and my Mac Pro you [TS]

01:34:02   know probably has like a $250 CPU the [TS]

01:34:04   MacBook Air however much that cost I'm [TS]

01:34:07   saying to TiVo I will give you an extra [TS]

01:34:10   $500 for you to put it 250 dollar Intel [TS]

01:34:13   CPU in my Tivo for me but whatever CPU [TS]

01:34:15   have in there now must cost $20 please [TS]

01:34:18   take my money I will give you 50% profit [TS]

01:34:21   margin here's $500 buy a 250 dollar CPU [TS]

01:34:25   and make it so that I can hit 30 second [TS]

01:34:27   30 second 30 second 30 second and it [TS]

01:34:30   doesn't freeze the video for the entire [TS]

01:34:31   course of me doing that it just it [TS]

01:34:33   bought this saw I know this is all a [TS]

01:34:35   repeat of my very first episode major [TS]

01:34:37   icing this you didn't hear the first [TS]

01:34:38   episode but TiVo please I'm begging you [TS]

01:34:41   you are still the best in the business [TS]

01:34:42   but only because your competitors are [TS]

01:34:44   our cable companies and they have no [TS]

01:34:46   idea what they're there they're doing I [TS]

01:34:49   don't want them to go out of business I [TS]

01:34:51   want them to get better I I want them to [TS]

01:34:53   progress with the rest of society with [TS]

01:34:55   the rest of civilization how we get [TS]

01:34:57   better Hardware as time goes on how [TS]

01:34:58   things get faster TiVo can take part in [TS]

01:35:01   that join us in civilization I don't I [TS]

01:35:07   don't understand for a while there I was [TS]

01:35:09   thinking that the the cable DVR was bad [TS]

01:35:12   but I actually think maybe TiVo is worse [TS]

01:35:14   now it's not though because I've used [TS]

01:35:16   these cable DVRs they are they are worse [TS]

01:35:18   there uglier they are slower they have [TS]

01:35:21   far fewer features they have they are [TS]

01:35:24   terrible and they're the reliability of [TS]

01:35:26   like I said that the record but it's [TS]

01:35:27   like it didn't and I don't know why or [TS]

01:35:29   where did that chef go it they are worse [TS]

01:35:31   and like that's a low bar like your [TS]

01:35:34   cable company isn't if that's what [TS]

01:35:36   you're competing with for hardware and [TS]

01:35:37   software products this we've talked [TS]

01:35:39   about it before I would've loved for [TS]

01:35:40   Apple to make a DVR they're not going to [TS]

01:35:41   do it that that's an old technology [TS]

01:35:43   I like DVRs I like what TiVo does for me [TS]

01:35:46   I would rather have my Devo DVR than not [TS]

01:35:49   have it is just frustrating to me that [TS]

01:35:50   they seem outside the the laws of [TS]

01:35:55   physics time for some crazy reason yeah [TS]

01:36:01   and have one more bonus item even though [TS]

01:36:03   I'm not gonna talk about all the other [TS]

01:36:04   stuff I bought maybe we'll do that in [TS]

01:36:06   the show I have one more bonus I'd okay [TS]

01:36:07   that's vaguely related so we can smoke [TS]

01:36:11   alarms all over the house as you have to [TS]

01:36:12   have one of the ones we have is at the [TS]

01:36:14   top of the stairs and this was a smoke [TS]

01:36:16   alarm that was in the house before we [TS]

01:36:18   bought it it's not one of the new ones [TS]

01:36:19   that we put in and it was really could [TS]

01:36:21   look at it it was kind of like a you [TS]

01:36:22   know an 80s or 90s style plastic smoke [TS]

01:36:26   detector and we do like every six months [TS]

01:36:28   or whatever go around the whole house [TS]

01:36:29   with a bunch of nine volts and replace [TS]

01:36:31   all the batteries because these are [TS]

01:36:31   battery-powered they're not they're not [TS]

01:36:32   wired in because when the batteries get [TS]

01:36:34   low in a smoke detector it does this [TS]

01:36:35   little beep little piercing beep once [TS]

01:36:38   every you know 60 seconds or something [TS]

01:36:40   and then you like where'd that come from [TS]

01:36:41   Chris to be especially and it always [TS]

01:36:44   happens like in the middle of the night [TS]

01:36:45   where's that beep and you wait for it [TS]

01:36:47   again beep yeah where's fresh it always [TS]

01:36:48   happened when whenever we would have a [TS]

01:36:50   houseguest it would happen yeah and you [TS]

01:36:53   gotta find it's very difficult to sort [TS]

01:36:55   of locate where a high-pitched single [TS]

01:36:57   noise is coming from beep twice you have [TS]

01:36:59   like better odds was you could like turn [TS]

01:37:01   your head and compare did that you know [TS]

01:37:03   your brain is doing this for you but [TS]

01:37:04   like did I hear more of that in the [TS]

01:37:05   right ear lifelike directional sound [TS]

01:37:07   very difficult is you hunt it down and [TS]

01:37:08   that's why you replace the batteries on [TS]

01:37:10   a regular schedule every six months so [TS]

01:37:11   you want to deal with that it's like [TS]

01:37:12   they're all fresh and when you know in [TS]

01:37:14   six months we'll just replace them all [TS]

01:37:15   again even if they're not dead or [TS]

01:37:16   whatever just easier that way but this [TS]

01:37:18   one we recently did a big replacement [TS]

01:37:20   this one was still doing like weird [TS]

01:37:21   chirping and occasionally making louder [TS]

01:37:23   noises like BP people like it's going [TS]

01:37:25   off and like what's going on with that [TS]

01:37:26   you know is it because it's like smoke [TS]

01:37:29   from the kitchen or steam from a shower [TS]

01:37:30   why is it you know and turns out we're [TS]

01:37:32   just like look it just must be old and [TS]

01:37:34   broken it's making too many beeps we [TS]

01:37:35   know the battery's not dead we just put [TS]

01:37:36   a freshman's just got a new smoke [TS]

01:37:38   detector so down comes the old one [TS]

01:37:41   get a new smoke detector from my wife [TS]

01:37:42   water and know where she picked it up [TS]

01:37:43   it's just you know you knew it's a smoke [TS]

01:37:45   and carbon monoxide detector because [TS]

01:37:47   they usually combine them these days so [TS]

01:37:49   I can take it out of the box this takes [TS]

01:37:51   a double ace instead of nine volts fine [TS]

01:37:53   shove them in there push the battery [TS]

01:37:55   compartment closed and this is a talking [TS]

01:37:57   one so it says welcome set room name is [TS]

01:38:01   this the bedroom living room got anyone [TS]

01:38:05   you wait have to wait for it it has like [TS]

01:38:06   spoken instructions which by the way the [TS]

01:38:07   instructions are spoken at the same [TS]

01:38:09   piercing volume it's the alarm [TS]

01:38:10   if the klaxon it sounds when there's [TS]

01:38:12   smoke and so you hold down the little [TS]

01:38:14   button when it gets to the thing you [TS]

01:38:15   want ours was at the top of stairs was [TS]

01:38:16   hallway so it's like you have selected [TS]

01:38:18   hallway you know then it says testing [TS]

01:38:21   fire in hallway evacuate evacuate bpp [TS]

01:38:25   evacuate you know fine whatever the [TS]

01:38:28   voice I guess helps you know it still [TS]

01:38:30   had the regular siren type noise they [TS]

01:38:32   would wake you up is very very loud and [TS]

01:38:35   and then at the end it says car monoxide [TS]

01:38:39   detected event great beer at the end of [TS]

01:38:41   the test it says previous carbon [TS]

01:38:43   monoxide level was zero ppm you know [TS]

01:38:46   it's just the test thing like alright [TS]

01:38:48   fine so now we know what that's going to [TS]

01:38:50   sound like it's all set I bet it will [TS]

01:38:51   probably I think I read the instructions [TS]

01:38:52   and like it will talk to you when the [TS]

01:38:53   battery is low will say battery low in [TS]

01:38:56   smoke detector in hallway I'm like [TS]

01:38:57   that's much better than the single beep [TS]

01:38:59   because then it will tell me where it is [TS]

01:39:00   and we only have one talking one in the [TS]

01:39:01   house anyway but it'll be clear when the [TS]

01:39:03   batteries bit put it up in the ceiling [TS]

01:39:05   make little new screw holes for its [TS]

01:39:07   clicking in there all set that was like [TS]

01:39:09   in the morning sometime in the evening [TS]

01:39:12   we hear the little thing going off beep [TS]

01:39:15   beep wording evacuated beep beep warning [TS]

01:39:17   now by the way this is really hurting my [TS]

01:39:19   parenting because when we're getting [TS]

01:39:20   this new thing when the kids are in the [TS]

01:39:21   house and trying to say wow kids what [TS]

01:39:23   are you doing here the smoke detector [TS]

01:39:24   now like don't hide in your room don't [TS]

01:39:27   stop looking all over the house for [TS]

01:39:28   mommy you go out of the house you don't [TS]

01:39:30   go on the street you go to the neighbors [TS]

01:39:31   you you know call the firemen like [TS]

01:39:33   teaching kids what to do when they hear [TS]

01:39:34   a fire alarm and I get this at school [TS]

01:39:35   and take care to you know that I'm [TS]

01:39:37   basically trying to avoid them getting [TS]

01:39:39   scared hiding under their covers and [TS]

01:39:40   staying in their room because you want [TS]

01:39:41   kids when they hear a fire alarm to get [TS]

01:39:42   out of the house even if they can't find [TS]

01:39:44   you or perhaps especially if they can't [TS]

01:39:45   find you get out of pass I don't know if [TS]

01:39:47   that's where you're supposed to tell [TS]

01:39:48   kids that's what I'm telling my kids [TS]

01:39:49   because that seems like the most logical [TS]

01:39:50   thing because I don't want them to hide [TS]

01:39:52   in their bedrooms assuming you know my [TS]

01:39:54   you know my wife and I are both dead in [TS]

01:39:56   our beds I don't want them to say well I [TS]

01:39:58   think go outside the house with mom [TS]

01:39:59   again it's all quiet under my covers but [TS]

01:40:02   if your thing goes off randomly and says [TS]

01:40:05   warning evacuate warning like you just [TS]

01:40:07   got through telling them they're [TS]

01:40:08   supposed to leave the house so you can't [TS]

01:40:10   tell them now like like you as an adult [TS]

01:40:12   know that nothing is actually on fire [TS]

01:40:13   but you have to - you know I almost okay [TS]

01:40:16   kids like this is not an actual alarm [TS]

01:40:18   but then you're telling them it's like [TS]

01:40:20   like that the smoke alarm that cried [TS]

01:40:21   wolf [TS]

01:40:22   well when you hear it ignore it because [TS]

01:40:24   most of the time is just a false alarm [TS]

01:40:26   it goes off for real live like out it's [TS]

01:40:28   just that thing going off again he [TS]

01:40:29   always tells me to ignore it right so [TS]

01:40:31   this is bad so it goes off in the middle [TS]

01:40:32   of the day I don't like what that what [TS]

01:40:33   is it doing up there it's like it I [TS]

01:40:35   think my wife had just taken a shower [TS]

01:40:36   likes it steam from the shower or [TS]

01:40:38   something or is it broken or defective [TS]

01:40:39   like I go up to it I hold on the little [TS]

01:40:41   button I'm trying to make it stop but [TS]

01:40:42   you you can't you know I hold on the [TS]

01:40:44   button it doesn't stop and I keep [TS]

01:40:45   pressing and pressing and some I think I [TS]

01:40:48   pressed it after he'd finished and does [TS]

01:40:49   the whole thing over again it says [TS]

01:40:50   fasting fire in hallway testing fire you [TS]

01:40:53   know so I'm like this must be the test [TS]

01:40:55   cycle but why is it testing itself and I [TS]

01:40:56   look up the little testing button it [TS]

01:40:57   says test weekly I'm like well maybe a [TS]

01:40:59   test itself weekly and like as an [TS]

01:41:01   internal clock and just every week it's [TS]

01:41:03   gonna do that sometimes the test I don't [TS]

01:41:05   know [TS]

01:41:05   so it was finally quiet and and I [TS]

01:41:08   couldn't quite figure this thing out but [TS]

01:41:09   I'm like I'm time to deal with it right [TS]

01:41:11   so we all go to bed and now you know [TS]

01:41:13   what happens it's like two am testing [TS]

01:41:16   fun think iron hallway evacuate evacuate [TS]

01:41:21   man BAM carbon monoxide detected a [TS]

01:41:24   baguette I got I jump out of beds you [TS]

01:41:26   know what the kids to wake up at 2:00 in [TS]

01:41:27   the morning by the bed shove the little [TS]

01:41:29   button thing to make the thing silent [TS]

01:41:31   and my wife is like take that thing down [TS]

01:41:34   everything comes down now like I agree I [TS]

01:41:37   hate the thing down pull out the [TS]

01:41:38   batteries go back to bed this thing is [TS]

01:41:41   on this i would say is it unsuccessful [TS]

01:41:45   our alarm device right because I don't [TS]

01:41:48   I'm I'm kind of technically minded but I [TS]

01:41:51   don't expect to have to like read [TS]

01:41:53   extensive instructions on how to operate [TS]

01:41:54   a farm it was an operator error was I [TS]

01:41:56   doing something wrong did I not set it [TS]

01:41:57   up correctly so the next morning I said [TS]

01:41:59   I'm gonna read these damn instructions [TS]

01:42:00   because you figure with the firearms got [TS]

01:42:02   one button that's test slash silence [TS]

01:42:05   it's got batteries and that should be [TS]

01:42:07   and this one even talks to you so I [TS]

01:42:08   there shouldn't be this big setup [TS]

01:42:09   procedure so I find the manual which I [TS]

01:42:11   saved and I sit there and I read it and [TS]

01:42:13   I read had the setup instructions and [TS]

01:42:16   what you're supposed to do my get butt [TS]

01:42:17   did that yep I did that I did exactly [TS]

01:42:18   that I look to see if it's got a test [TS]

01:42:20   itself weekly says no I won't test the [TS]

01:42:22   bra test ourselves weekly yeah not [TS]

01:42:23   nothing about that nothing about self [TS]

01:42:25   testing or going off randomly nothing [TS]

01:42:27   about false alarms except it says you [TS]

01:42:29   know where you should put it yet but I [TS]

01:42:30   follow those instructions don't put it [TS]

01:42:32   near the stove don't put it in a [TS]

01:42:34   bathroom don't put it in play in all [TS]

01:42:35   this true and especially senses that you [TS]

01:42:37   know it would always say 0 ppm at the [TS]

01:42:39   end so it's not detecting carbon [TS]

01:42:40   monoxide like it's like are you sure [TS]

01:42:41   you're not being poisoned by it was [TS]

01:42:43   telling me 0 ppm every single time so [TS]

01:42:45   it's not carbon monoxide that was [TS]

01:42:47   setting the thing I'll feeder and it [TS]

01:42:48   said the word testing in the beginning [TS]

01:42:49   so it was triggering the testing [TS]

01:42:51   procedure so finally I got the section [TS]

01:42:52   of the manual to explain what was going [TS]

01:42:54   on they said to test your bla bla bla [TS]

01:42:58   fire alarm press and hold the testing [TS]

01:43:00   button or use the channel or volume up [TS]

01:43:03   and down buttons on your remote control [TS]

01:43:05   to test it and I assume that it didn't [TS]

01:43:08   say this this is if you have a very high [TS]

01:43:09   ceiling in a room and the smoke alarm is [TS]

01:43:12   like like a cathedral ceiling or [TS]

01:43:13   something in a smoke alarm is up in the [TS]

01:43:14   cathedral ceiling and you can't reach it [TS]

01:43:16   that you can test it and silence it by [TS]

01:43:18   pointing your remote control at it so [TS]

01:43:20   this fire alarm has an IR sensor [TS]

01:43:23   somewhere inside it oh no now there's no [TS]

01:43:26   television is in the bedroom and totally [TS]

01:43:28   facing the other direction is not facing [TS]

01:43:30   you know so and we were asleep when this [TS]

01:43:32   thing went off it's like 2 a.m. right so [TS]

01:43:33   it's not our remote that's firing it but [TS]

01:43:35   there is a line of sight from the smoke [TS]

01:43:37   detector out the window through the [TS]

01:43:40   neighbors window into the neighbor's [TS]

01:43:42   house and I can imagine the neighbor [TS]

01:43:44   probably has oh you've got to be kidding [TS]

01:43:46   me [TS]

01:43:46   an IR blaster of some kind you know when [TS]

01:43:48   IR blaster is like you have some device [TS]

01:43:50   that's controlled by IR but you want [TS]

01:43:52   some other device to control it so you [TS]

01:43:53   take this IR blaster which is something [TS]

01:43:54   that sprays IR in all directions to try [TS]

01:43:57   to activate your device and that's why I [TS]

01:43:59   mentioned before the IR blaster for the [TS]

01:44:00   TiVo what's going on was that my [TS]

01:44:02   neighbor or something over there was [TS]

01:44:04   watching TV in the middle of the night [TS]

01:44:06   and just happened to point the remote in [TS]

01:44:08   the wrong direction or the IR blaster [TS]

01:44:10   came through there and they're [TS]

01:44:11   activating like my white smoke alarm in [TS]

01:44:15   the middle of the night and it was [TS]

01:44:18   unbelievable yeah so I'm going to say to [TS]

01:44:21   smoke alarm [TS]

01:44:22   companies I think the idea of having a [TS]

01:44:25   an IR sensor in your smoke detector for [TS]

01:44:28   places where it's up high that I think [TS]

01:44:31   that makes sense because you don't want [TS]

01:44:32   someone to climb in a tall ladder and it [TS]

01:44:33   would be nice to be able to test your [TS]

01:44:35   thing or whatever uh but there has to be [TS]

01:44:38   way to disable to disable that because I [TS]

01:44:40   can literally not use the smoke detector [TS]

01:44:42   because that's where it's all supposed [TS]

01:44:44   to be the hallway smoke detector we have [TS]

01:44:45   them in the bedrooms this is the hallway [TS]

01:44:47   one and the hallway has line-of-sight [TS]

01:44:48   apparently two sources of IR let's say [TS]

01:44:51   I'm not gonna blame my knee before [TS]

01:44:51   they're just watching TV or whatever or [TS]

01:44:53   whatever they're doing so that smoke [TS]

01:44:56   detector is gone and when I buy a new [TS]

01:44:58   smoke detector now I have a new thing to [TS]

01:45:00   look for on the box does this thing tout [TS]

01:45:02   any feature that allows it to work with [TS]

01:45:04   the remote control if it does I cannot [TS]

01:45:05   buy it so let this be a warning to [TS]

01:45:07   everyone when you the next time you have [TS]

01:45:08   to buy a new smoke detector you may not [TS]

01:45:09   know that many of them come with the [TS]

01:45:11   ability to detect infrared signals [TS]

01:45:14   consider not buying one of those if it's [TS]

01:45:16   somewhere that you can reach the end [TS]

01:45:20   that's terrible it's terrible terrible [TS]

01:45:24   terrible and and quite funny John it's [TS]

01:45:28   not funny at 2:00 a.m. let me tell you [TS]

01:45:32   not funny at all oh boy now it's your [TS]

01:45:38   wife just used to this kind of thing [TS]

01:45:40   with you you cannot blame this on me she [TS]

01:45:43   bought the smoke detector about me and [TS]

01:45:44   I'm the one who has to get out of the [TS]

01:45:45   bed because she can't reach the ceiling [TS]

01:45:46   how no one has to get another better [TS]

01:45:48   than it 2:00 a.m. and disabled the thing [TS]

01:45:50   she still will find a way to be mad at [TS]

01:45:52   me about it but that but it's not [TS]

01:45:53   actually my fault let's keep that does [TS]

01:45:55   think so yeah and I think she should be [TS]

01:45:58   very happy with the fact that more or [TS]

01:46:00   less within a two day window got this [TS]

01:46:02   whole big reshuffling of internet that [TS]

01:46:05   television phone in new television new [TS]

01:46:08   TiVo blu-ray player everything all set [TS]

01:46:10   up and she didn't have to worry about it [TS]

01:46:12   and that's that's something I should [TS]

01:46:14   talk about another show the effort the [TS]

01:46:16   effort required by me to get a wireless [TS]

01:46:18   connection to my TiVo in the upstairs [TS]

01:46:20   bedroom not beyond my means as a geek [TS]

01:46:23   but there's no way anyone who was not a [TS]

01:46:25   geek could have successfully done this [TS]

01:46:26   no way at all it was it intensely [TS]

01:46:29   complicated so I think I'm still earning [TS]

01:46:33   my keep and as I said she bought this [TS]

01:46:36   smoke detector on me I should put a link [TS]

01:46:39   in the show notes the smoke detector I'm [TS]

01:46:40   going to buy to replace this but I [TS]

01:46:41   haven't picked one yet but presumably I [TS]

01:46:43   will be able to find one that [TS]

01:46:44   emphatically does not have an IR [TS]

01:46:46   detector and I'll buy that so in a [TS]

01:46:51   little long talked about some stuff [TS]

01:46:52   that's not really iPad related to put I [TS]

01:46:55   think we're done now all right [TS]

01:47:00   the the chatroom is under the distinct [TS]

01:47:03   you know the consensus that this was an [TS]

01:47:06   epic episode for you an epic rant [TS]

01:47:08   mmm-hmm I agree with them it's just it's [TS]

01:47:11   just my life just slice-of-life that's [TS]

01:47:14   what this show is about I didn't fly out [TS]

01:47:16   to San Francisco to see in a [TS]

01:47:18   presentation [TS]

01:47:18   you didn't after you know walking at [TS]

01:47:20   2:00 a.m. by talking fire alarms [TS]

01:47:21   different strokes really that's right [TS]

01:47:24   all right well listen if you uh if you'd [TS]

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01:47:41   twitter siracusa si RAC u.s.a and he is [TS]

01:47:47   a frequent contributor to ARS technica [TS]

01:47:49   and read his stuff there you have a blog [TS]

01:47:52   now you have a well we'll do more of [TS]

01:47:56   this in the next maybe after dark but [TS]

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01:48:13   and his internet connections is dropped [TS]

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01:48:38   whoops I hit the wrong button [TS]

01:48:40   anyway thanks everybody thanks for [TS]

01:48:42   tuning in we'll be back next week have a [TS]

01:48:44   good one [TS]

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