00:00:02 ◼ ► this is hypercritical a weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► the world of Apple related technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/6">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► and businesses nothing is so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/9">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► that it can't be complained about by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/10">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► co-host John siracusa i'm dan benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► today is Friday February 17th 2012 this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/17">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► is episode number 55 we would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► squarespace.com hover.com I'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► more about them as the show progresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► we also mentioned that bandwidth for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► this episodes is provided by Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► Cola cost high-performance the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► mac server check out Mac Mini : @ / 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/41">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► for very special deals happy Friday to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► you mr. John siracusa happy Friday to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/49">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► have you already begun writing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► review of mountain lion didn't we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► about my writing process once I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► begin writing writing but I've begun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/64">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► working towards it because now they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► yearly release cycle and what this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► is that you are going to be writing 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► non-stop and your reviews will will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► to because it takes you there to power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► over a year to write one yeah like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► it's not the writing though it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► really begins when I create a note and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► tag collection in your Jimbo for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► operating system and traditionally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► don't do that until I know the the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► of the operating system the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/97">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► cat no yes I have I have my mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► lion note it has text in it and yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► process has begun so speaking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/103">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► name of the cat you whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/107">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► you don't even let me do follow-up which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► I just want to jump right into it but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► can do your follow-up of course I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► want to but this is the one thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► it it all comes out of this you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► prophesized that lie I heard you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► that a Marco show I dis are you not oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► no not everybody it listens to Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► right away already degree you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► prophesized that lion being the king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/133">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► the jungle this this should signify the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► end of the big cat names because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► have reached the biggest of the cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► with lion the king of the jungle it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► not actually the biggest but yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► yeah metaphorically speaking the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► but you're right there is the Thai is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► the liger biggest I don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► some other cat the way is more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► the liger is the biggest anyway you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/161">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► you believe that this should indicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► the end of the cat names we should move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► on to something else I believe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/171">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► suggestion was the rodents no that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► or what you know wombat or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► we didn't good didn't mountain lion yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► you want you know that I said it's last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► time one of the reasons that I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► wished they would get off the cat names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► ah is that it would be a nice stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► point for me writing his reviews because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► you would have done all that's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► all the big cats you know now someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► else has to take it from here yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► room in a natural stopping point all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► right well anyway I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► mention that and plant that seed in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► it was not on your list yeah I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► didn't predict that they would I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► that they should I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► should have but they didn't yeah I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► they don't listen to you and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► show yes shocking one small piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► follow up and then we can get to it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► my apologies for interrupting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/217">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► follow-up in because the this is a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► that more listeners sent me than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► other link in history of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► it's the link to an article by Timothy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► Messer Cruz called the undue weight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/239">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► I think people see see you on the tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► too didn't you see this this link about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► yeah maybe it seems even longer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► we didn't to the show last week so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► got two weeks of people sending this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► link so I felt compelled that I must put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► this link in the show notes and briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/258">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► discuss it okay this is an article from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/259">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► historical event and writes academic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► papers on it and was in the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► writing a book about it and happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► go to the wikipedia page and saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► there was some information that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/273">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► correct on there the main thing he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► found objection with is that the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► said that the prosecution didn't offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► any evidence connecting the defendants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► with this this crime that had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► committed and he said oh no they totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► did and it was it was a long trial they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► presented lots of evidence and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► I've studied all about it I've written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► papers about it and I'm writing a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► about it now so we corrected it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► got reverted and they said you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► provide reliable sources blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► the whole nine yards Amy says well I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► had cited things I cited the Library of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► Congress and cited some of his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► peer-reviewed articles on the topic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► they didn't like it and so that was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► first encounter with Wikipedia not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► requirements and the other thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/314">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► where the title comes from is that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► of the Wikipedians cited the undue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► weight policy which states and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► quote from the article although I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► know if it's quote from the policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► articles should not give minority views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► as much or as detailed the description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► as more popular views so the Wikipedian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/333">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► said you should not delete information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► supported by the majority of sources to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► replace it with a minority view so his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► view that evidence was presented was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► minority view because they had tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► sources citing the fact that evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► wasn't presented and the undue weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► thing is I mean he's adding the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► part the undo way of truth it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► every historian says X and you say Y you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/352">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► you can't just delete X and put in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Y even if it's actually true so this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► waited two years until his book on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► historical event was published and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/366">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► Wikipedia leg to stand on because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► could cite see his book was published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► write a book on the topic of his event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► now he can cite that and so he did a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► update citing his own book on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► and it got reverted again pretty quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► and the Wikipedian says as a by way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► explaining why this is reverted if all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► historians save one say that the sky was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► green in 1888 our policies require that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► we write most historians write that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/394">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► sky was green but one says the sky was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► as individual editors we are not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► reporting what reliable sources right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► and so you should follow the link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► show notes if you want to read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/405">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► entire article it is a pretty close echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► of my experience albeit but much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► academic rigor and importance than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► know some little thing about the finder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► and many people sent it to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► it's such a echo what we talked about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► so there you go that's my only follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► and I had to say that because the sheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► weight of pointers to that article is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/422">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► overwhelmed yes okay that's a nice your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► only follow that's it and I have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► topic right before we get the mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► line which is mountain lion related it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► actually is a mountain lion topic so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► someone named Kenneth REITs REI TZ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► apparently involved in the homebrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► project the thing lets you compile UNIX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► software mac OS 10 without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► everything right very handy it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► better than other attempts like Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► ports were at putting this together you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► install homebrew you type brew space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/458">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► utility that you want installed it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► does it it's genius it's perfect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► obfuscates all of the tutorials that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► wrote over the many many years on high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► villages it's a genius I wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► called it something else but it's grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► on me and I just edit it obfuscates your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► well mother obviates the need for yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► that's a better way to say it thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/484">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► several people I can imagine being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► annoyed by the fact that if you want if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► you want to do any of this stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► want to compile software for Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► you need to have the compiler the Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► traditional way to install the compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► according to Apple is I'll just install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/501">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► the development right which is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► terabytes of stuff it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► 1.3 gigs worth of Xcode and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► stuff that comes with it and just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/510">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► huge amount of stuff like geez I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► want like GCC in the headers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► though you know it's like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► download the entire Internet onto your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/517">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► back just to be able to compile you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► W get and I mean personally I I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► a little absurd to but I tend to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► have the dev tools because I like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/527">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► able to just fire up a project or open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► someone else's source code or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► for people who aren't into that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► see how it's annoying so he made his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► little OS ten GCC installer which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► command line parts and wrap that up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► an easy to install package so say oh if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► you just want to use homebrew to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► install some little open-source piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► software right you don't need all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► xcode just get my little installer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► like you know 100 Meg's or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► it will put all that stuff in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► it was a little bit sketchy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/553">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► there's some files that he couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► distribute that were part of xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► restrictions you know they weren't GPL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► then he was mixing with GPL all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► actually Apple contacted him and talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► to him about that tool and then didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► mountain line suddenly Apple has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► official command-line tools for Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► download which is 171 megabytes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► officially from Apple totally supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► and if you just want to use homebrew to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► install some UNIX software you no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► have to download gigabytes of Xcode just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► go get this free download link is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► show notes and it's directly from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► and great there's even there's even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► supported way now to uninstall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► developer tools I'm not sure if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► around before but he's suggesting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► link that in the story that he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/597">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► developer tools I'll tell you what I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/605">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► tell you where this is this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► useful or I'll tell you who this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► useful for and and and why I really am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► thrilled about this is we use a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► of Mac minis behind the scenes for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► 5x5 and I host them over at Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► Colo net and what a pain it is to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► to go and install Xcode you know remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► to the machine visually install Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► wait for it to download and all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► stuff when I'm never gonna launch Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► on a remote Mac Mini I just but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► need it to build a do need to build some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► of these tools that's a great thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► again for people who have no interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► running Xcode ever maybe their rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► developers but they need to install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► things locally or they wanted you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► who knows this is so great and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► great to see that Apple reached out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► the guy and integrated it instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/652">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► just doing something like it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► know they involved them it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/659">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► my mute key isn't working in Skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► anymore it started like two weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► you and Marco both wanting to mute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► constantly what's going on you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► me asking about the shuttle I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► cold now I'm blowing my nose that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► blew my nose hope you didn't hear it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► I did menu and do it all right on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► line uninstalling the dev tools with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► that tool from Apple that makes me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► good when they provided tool for because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► then you expect it to work very hot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► there's an interesting reason why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► might want to uninstall them because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► new way Xcode works which we might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► to depending on how we go all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► that's that's Mountain Lion related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► because that was released at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► time as Mountain Lion so now now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► lion feels like I just did our Maximus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► then review doesn't it feel like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► feels like I didn't I just do this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► still almost recovering yeah some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► haven't finished reading it yet it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► shows they got to the boring part it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► true couldn't recover I got people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► tweeted me this they must have like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► know got to a boring part and stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► reading and just that all go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► some other time and now there's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► OS announced yeah where do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► start with this there's so much ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► want to start I have the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► definitely do want to talk about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/727">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► gatekeeper but we can start any place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► you want ah gatekeeper is probably an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► excellent place to start if that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► you'd like one thing I would like to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► have you tried out messages in in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► of iChat I have oh I installed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► played with it a little bit I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► haven't been using it using it for I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► did you uninstall it no not yet I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► it for a day and I uninstalled it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► I'll tell you the only reason that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► this I loved the functionality that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► brought but there is something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► going on with it there's a little bit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► little bit jarring and I'm curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► know if you experienced this because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► know you have complained about similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/767">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► things there's a little there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► sidebar or if you want to call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► left-hand pane that has a list of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► people that you are chatting with if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► have multiple chats to three at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► and when you send or receive a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► message the person for whom you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► communicated just then with that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► name which is actually it's relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► tall kind of kind of block on the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/793">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► Lyde up above the other ones and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► happen to be receiving multiple messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► at one time or within closed time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/802">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► each other the this this left-hand pane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► is constantly shifting and sliding up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► and up and down and other things moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► around and you're like why is this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► moving constantly your click target to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► pick the person is constantly changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/817">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► and it's a sort of jarring activity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► seems to be happening by itself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► slightly disturbing way at now people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► have been quick to point out well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► is exactly the way that it works on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► iPad this is the same way the iMessage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► app works on the iPad and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► why I don't use it on the iPad because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► don't like seeing now it's a little less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► everything on iOS it's a full screen app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► using this in the full screen didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► really solve it it just kind of seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► so wondering if you notice that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► no way to turn it off apparently you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► should I think there's a prep because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► recall seeing a preference for reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► the sidebar thing I'm not don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► messages happen from me now so I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► preference for that I it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► possible that I missed it of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► could have missed there you uninstalled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► it by now see again well it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► put it back but I don't have it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► computer anymore because it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► crazy but here's here's the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/875">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► selected and went to the View menu went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► to the sort I thought it was for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► regular buddy list there wasn't anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► in there that I assignment well I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► join the chatroom I then see if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► shouting in there of course you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► change it they're not he's I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► how many people have used iMessage but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► could swear there was an option in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► I'd oh yeah animation like that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► like seeing things move out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► corner of my eye yeah I don't use I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► don't use iChat I use a diem for my I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► so that's that's why having installed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► not going to bother me because I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► use that but I don't like the UI so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/909">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► separate windows for people I like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► Adium remembers the size and position of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► my separate windows yeah you know so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► don't think I'll be using that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► what I was really hoping for is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/921">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► they would break out FaceTime from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► they're like oh now finally they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► gonna have messages which will just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► for text-based things that folds in SM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► SN aim and jabber and all that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► FaceTime which is clearly the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► beside chat was weird because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/935">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► like you did video there too but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► also have the FaceTime application so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► you know is this big consolidation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► mountain line like finally they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► they'll separate stuff out but no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► still this video so I'm confused how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/946">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► messages has anything to do with video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► or screen sharing but you know baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► steps I guess actually before we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/952">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► gate keeper I'll talk about two minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► topics one is the super weird release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/957">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► experience or at least weird for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► the idea that there's no no invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► that goes out in the mail with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► picture and some words and press doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► fly to California and stand in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► people and they get presented instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► they call individual people in the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► have them come in secret and give them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/976">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► keynote presentation and you're the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► one in the audience yeah I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► wonder if you feel like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► applaud like yeah hey good good chop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► fill but he needs the feedback or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► sit there stone-faced with your arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► but Gruber had a great post about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► experience doing that and as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► know he's the only one who's posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► about his experiences doing that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► that this is just it's just weird for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► Apple this is a change in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► they release things and as Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► alluded to the obvious question which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► she was too uncomfortable to ask is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► know we're doing things differently now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► now being like after Steve has gone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► don't want to bring that up obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► it's a little insensitive but it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► hard not to make that connection that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► differently and you know how many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► have Steve did we have from 1997 until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► 2011 and then he leaves and suddenly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► way they do things changes it could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► be a natural evolution this was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► and it also could just be an experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► that Apple's trying but that totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► caught me by surprise that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► not actually have an event for this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► know it didn't even get the homepage I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► didn't even get the Apple comm homepage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► the iPhone 4 I stayed there the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► time mountain lion just got like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► the three boxes and the bottom so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► was very surprising to me a mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► syllables too many syllables too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► record-holder for the largest number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► syllables a big cat name right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► previous record-holder was snow leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► with just three mountain minus 4 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► could slur together if you want uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► it does doesn't roll off the tongue by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► but they dropped mac from mac OS so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► maybe they have a quote they bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► yeah they had to they have to keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► syllables they were we afford speak over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► three syllables in the cat name we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► cut one off or I drop the Mac but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► were doing that the last time with lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► they were doing OS 10 lion all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► place but they were inconsistent some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► things that Mac some things as I was ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► seems like like the marketing department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► really wanted always ten lion but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► of the code and the developers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► all over the all over the actual OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► I'll be interesting see a mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► if the marketing department puts its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► foot down with the developers and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► every place that this operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► name appears in the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► itself get rid of the Mac part well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► have it is it is official it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► covered in some different places but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► Nilay Patel friend of mine over at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► verge has a little article which I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► put into the show notes that he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► here here's what he says there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► equally big change quietly afoot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► Mac the Mac in Mac OS 10 is no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► instead Apple's desktop operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► is now simply called OS 10 we confirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► the official name change with Apple who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► told us that the preferred full name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► OS 10 mountain lion and a quick look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► around the company's new mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► pages reveals that the tweak is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► well in effect that's not to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► the Mac brand has been demoted as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► still used throughout Apple site it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► appears that Mac is being used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► identify hardware products while OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► everything else about mountain lion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► matches the iOS naming scheme of calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► the iPhone and iPad by separate names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► than the other than the OS etc etc so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► yeah and that was probably the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► policy in line I don't know of anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► who's never asked that but having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► policy and actually expunging all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► instances of the capital m.a.c from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► strings that are part of the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► system are two separate things so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► see if they get that consistent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► seriously speaking what like why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► they leave Mac off the is did he say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► that Apple said that they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► for hardware is he just deriving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► from the fact that it's still attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► to the hardware but not attached to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► software I think the latter I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► is that is his what is he reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► yeah he's inferring that from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► they're saying I think he's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► right and it would make sense but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► he did I don't think that they told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► that yeah I could ask him I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► speculating just like he was but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► strikes me as a recognition that like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► or not having a Mac even in this day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► age is still there's like a stigma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► attached like you're not like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► have a PC you have a Mac and they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► the brand of the operating system not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► be tied to any of the baggage that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► be the bad baggage that comes along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► Mac as far as mass market penetration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► goes like I see it as trying to crank up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► the glass ceiling on possible Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► ownership because you know iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► sound like gangbusters and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► like that but it's like vote my one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► my favorite things to think about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► what is the glass ceiling on Mac market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► share in the PC market now it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► just the PC market become so unimportant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► that who that cares but still now even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► outgrowing the market for you know six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► what are they at like now single-digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► percentage is still the PC market maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► measuring it from I think it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► single but yeah and and you end so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► they're like look we need some Headroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► here now that the PC market is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► important clearly the future is in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► wouldn't it be nice to have everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► using a Mac and maybe they think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► the barriers there is the Mac name I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► don't know this is the type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► that they're not going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► they're going to tell you what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► doing and maybe give you a picture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► think you'll believe but I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► what the real reason is but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► that there's lots of extra syllables is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► just as a good enough reason as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► I'm concerned so the short one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► everyone is using is mul oh you're down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► with that Molo molo from mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► I haven't even turned yet I think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► JLo the first one to do is horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► you know like Malo people doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► tweets busy I don't have room and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► know why not this 10.8 I mean you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► text expander shortcut if you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► an article about it just you can type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► molo and then it's panda mole oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► terrible yeah so we continue it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► as for the yearly thing no more yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► yeah for everyone so for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► don't know what this is apple also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► announced that they are on now a yearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► schedule for OS 10 releases so the 10.8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► will be coming out and from from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► release of 10.8 every year we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► to have a new version of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► operating system they were not clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► whether that was going to be a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► in other words like we had lion which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► was big now we have mountain lion which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► even though it has the sub cat name the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► way that leopard had Snow Leopard if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► remember back to snow leopard Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► Leopard they really didn't introduce new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► features they just made everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► better faster and more stable and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► I've mentioned on the other shows in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► experience and most experience of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► i've talked with it has been one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► most if not the most stable bug-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► release of OS 10 in history Snow Leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► now mountain lion is not - Snow Leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► what you know it's not an acquits not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► bug fixes more stable I mean maybe we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► get that but it's plenty of new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► it's a lot of redesign it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► new stuff and the implication is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► they're moving forward they're plowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► ahead does that concern you at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► because I know you've expressed what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► what I have expressed also which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► lion is not always maybe as reliable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► stable as we'd like it to be well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► first concern is about uh writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► schedules can I write something as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► as I've used them in writing every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► and that's exacerbated by the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► that if they stick the summer releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► you know quote-unquote coming out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► summer whatever that that means and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► guess when WWDC is it's also summer none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► of them neither one of those things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► actual dates and I do rely on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► and a tremendous amount when writing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► reviews so it's it's the same place we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► were with line like oh geez are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► going to release it before the show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► which case that I'm screwed either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► are they going to release it at the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► I'm still kind of screwed if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► release it two weeks after the show then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► I'd still like to go because maybe if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► don't go to the W everybody see they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► talk about it and then two weeks later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► released the OS and then release the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► videos and so I won't have no time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► watch the stuff or say they release the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► videos right the day after watc and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► I have to watch them all you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► time to beat the release date so it adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► a lot of uncertainty for me about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► kind of volume I can produce and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► much detail I can go into and whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► can get the information I need because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► it really depends on when WWC Falls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► when the releases so I'm very nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► about that I now as for the content of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► the release you would assume that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► they're going to go yearly they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► put as much stuff in maybe that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► true I obviously you said you know snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► leopards and you know no new features ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► but they spent a long time on it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► not it when people think about did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► put lots of why should I buy it did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► plots of stuff and it's like they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► to see stuff they can seen screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► Mountain Lion has all much new stuff has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► interfaces for old applications you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► if you were just a look at screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► you see that look you say that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► nothing like line I don't have that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► line and that Sun you know but does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► take longer that take more time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► effort than Snow Leopard and do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► have as much time for internal changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► which I usually have a whole section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► dedicated to internal changes maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► there won't be a lot of internal changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► so I don't know how I'm going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► this in terms of getting the review done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► and how much how much is there actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► to write about in one year every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► year maybe maybe they still will do kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► of a tick-tock model in the Intel model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► they'll do lots of core OS changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► then they'll add a bunch of fancy apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► and then Correll has changed since bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► of fancy apps the line would be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► core OS changes and to fancy apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► they redid the address book and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► other stuff and they mangled Safari and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► you know but it wasn't like this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► like you know all those apps you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► and love that use all the time well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► we're just we're redoing them all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► yeah some of them we already redid in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► line so you already got the new mail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► we're not really going crazy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► and the new address book will trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► tweak a little bit but I chat is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► iCal is renamed we're adding you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► Notification Center and a new notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► application and just you know that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► lot of stuff but I don't know if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► stuff takes longer than creating a Grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► Central Dispatch or you know core image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► or something like that or one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► core features that came along and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► other big releases so we're in uncharted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► territory here I don't quite know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► it's going to go and I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► kind of beast mountain line is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► going to be in terms of writing review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► and actually what content is in the OS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► was very surprised that they released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► the the Developer Preview to at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► time although Velma stuff that stuff's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► under NDA right like they have videos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► their site and any reporter who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► briefing oh that's fair game but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► can't talk about like the stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► on the developer side right I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► don't know what the rule is on it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► think so I obviously I can't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► that but there are some internal changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► they've just started looking at them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► what's interesting though into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► point is gosh we get to do our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► sponsor too but to your point there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► seems like a lot of the attendees of WDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► for example there was a really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► article on panics blog yesterday we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► know and love panic that they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► have some deep familiarity with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► the things that were going on in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► mountain lion I didn't attend WWDC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► how much of this was common knowledge I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► mean it sound it sure did sound like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► mean maybe they went to the to the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► thing they were brought out there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► in brief I think I think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► reasons they got briefed is because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► made a lot of noise about sandboxing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► they're a prominent Mac developer and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► ah that's incidentally what when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► announcement came I knew that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► something coming but I didn't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► details and I also knew about mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► lion but I didn't put two and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► together I'm like well it's not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► a mountain lion cuz they always send out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► invitations for that so it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► something else so I was sure it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► going to be a sandboxing thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► developers have a wing for sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► like a decision from Apple and what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► do about the whole sandboxing thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► keep moving the deadline for enforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► sandboxing on all Mac App Store apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► that's the type of thing they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► without a press thing or announcement so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► I was very surprised when the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► Mountain Lion is is here but still no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► announcement on sandboxing and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► think panic was brought in because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► you know there are company that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► expressed a lot of opinions about both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► of these issues and I think Apple wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► to sort of I don't know why I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► don't know the rhyme reason how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► chooses who to brief like for example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► think mg Siegler got briefed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► Jason Snell said he saw him on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► campus of the day he was getting briefed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► mm-hmm but Ars Technica did not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► briefed against mg Siegler but why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► he rate getting briefed but ours doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► prominent blogger but I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► don't I don't understand how a boy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► you would think all Apple just wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► be people who always say nice things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► about them well mg says he's not a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► know uncritical of Apple well will we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► ever know will we ever understand I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► more questions for John Gruber today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► when when we do his show after this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► as far as how the sort of logistics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► that work were they all gathered in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► big room ahead of time where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► independently with a you know us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► burlap sack over there hey you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► Gruber points out that that uh Andy NACO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► didn't get briefed either I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► weird the PR people will call you day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► but who gets early access how do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► decide not that I begrudge the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► who got early access their their access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► but it just seems weird like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► like they're blacklisting people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► like look we just got a pic maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► take like one of each like we own one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► this type of thing one of this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► thing and obviously you know the New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► York Times The Wall Street Journal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► that that probably is still frustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► to people who are in this business it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► like what we feel like we're doing good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► reporting on Apple and they if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► going to be doing this thing where some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► people get early access why don't we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► it and you don't want to get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► game of like oh they only give it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► people who write nice things I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► think that's true I just think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► people they like and have people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► don't like and that's totally their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► right but it's got to be frustrating if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► you're in this bit because it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► they are well man I understand where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► Apple's coming from right and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► don't necessarily want to tell everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► but how why not Andy why not have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► people like you got in you got a brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► Andy I mean it's not he writes for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► publication and and he's got a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► big show macbreak weekly I mean it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► like he would be the right person now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► anyway yeah and the whole idea like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► reason you get early access in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► regular non Apple world is because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► want to give people who are in the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► lead time to actually write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► something so the day of all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► a bunch of articles appear about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► topic about and in the rest of in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► other industry that's normal like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► give the car magazines an early look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► your car so they come to your Center and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► do test drives and I go the whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► yards right and get and then they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► back and I write their big long article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► about the preview of the new car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► then like a month later it appears on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► newsstands all at the same time like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► know the embargo was lifted that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► that's how regular products always work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► apples has not been like that ever in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► the jobs to era and now they're starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► to be like that but they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► doing it weirdly like car companies for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► example invite everybody you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► have a car magazine you're invited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► come out and then it seems that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► would do it based on like prominence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► like who has a big audience so I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► don't know it's it's strange this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► said it's uncharted territory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► everybody and I'm not sure how they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► do it and as I think you pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► because it you want on a on a Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► thing why not just invite all the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► at once why do the keynote for one why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► have all the press in the same room do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► presentation once you know that each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► Coast you know or whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► do but individually seems like boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► prior to given that present right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► that's that's the John Gruber points out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► he says oh man you know this thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► rehearsed and prepared and it was well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► he probably gave it 20 times already you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► know that's why it was so prepared of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► her is not saying I mean not to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► anything away from the guy clearly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► took it seriously and I bet you anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► that the first time was as good as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► 20th time he did it but I mean it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► seems it seems very interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► weird to do it that way and it it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► think it's pretty cool in some ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► mean it's gotta me and maybe that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► they did it maybe they did it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► each individual person who is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► brought in and briefed felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► very very special and unique and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► for them and that's why they did it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► that each person felt like Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► saying to them we like you we trust you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► be our emissary be our PR department and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► we'll keep doing these really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► things for you it's like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► separate prisoners when you interrogate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► them that's what it is you know I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► like after the keynotes they would pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► in the press to give like you know each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► one goes individually talks to whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► Apple represented they don't let they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► don't do the thing where there's a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► up there and a mic and a bunch of press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► waving their notepads but they're 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► style hats on saying mr. jobs mr. jobs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► wouldn't you know they don't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► environment where the press becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► mob and they're there they're beholden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► to the press times you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► briefing room in the White House that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► exactly the environment Apple never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► wants to subject itself to they like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► controlled environment and if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► bunch of Apple guys and one reporter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► that one reporter is clearly not the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► in control the situation but if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► 17 reporters and you get you give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► presentation fine give it to 17 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► they do that all time they come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► California for press event all the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► it's in there they get the presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► individually get pulled in to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► people about it it's not like they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► and now we will take questions because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that's a totally different dynamic yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► and Apple clearly favors the dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► where they are the one in control we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► now presenting you listen no talking no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► individually come to a bunch of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► people and talk to them with the PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► person present and there'll be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► Apple people there than you and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► other reporters in the room and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► start getting that you know start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► getting your reporter hat on and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► we're gonna ask about this what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► this yeah and what about you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► don't like that but and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► silly like for the briefings up I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► it's better to be brief than not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► brief but the real issue is early access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► like it's not so much the questions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► get to ask them because they're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► gonna it's not like well if I had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► briefed I could have asked this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► they would have answered it no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► gonna do if they don't want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► about they're going to deflect the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► professionals here they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► say hey when's the release date it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► like oh darn no one thought to ask that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► yeah I asked it then they told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► they're not going to tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► release date if they decide they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► going to tell you the release date but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► it's the fact that you get to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► thing home and use it for a week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► write about it while no one even knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► it exists so then the day comes out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► are there deign date with your review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► which must have been this is gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► strange change for Gruber too because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► just posted his review of the Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► bio so he's used to being able to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► leisurely pace if he's not ready to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► about it he's not ready that'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► interesting to give him an early look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► and then he doesn't post anything yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► all of a sudden no that's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► point and that that's something and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► said many times is that he likes to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► his time with stuff and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► there's the expectation from Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► hey we're gonna give you a private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► keynote and we're gonna send you away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► with a MacBook Air they do have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► difference between like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► reason Gruber doesn't want to feel rush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► is because if if you found out about at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► the same time as the rest of the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► populace the worst thing is to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► go and now like get something up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► day because it's going to be sloppy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► not to a depth at it like that's not his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► publication he has yeah but if you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► if you give you a week with it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► that's probably like enough time to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► get something significant like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► mostly he's trying to avoid and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► try to avoid too and I do try to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► with my reviews I don't want to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► have to come up with something day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► when I've just found out about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► because it's just I don't I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► it all settled in my mind at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► I don't want to have to write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► publication we are we got to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► something up like this plenty places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► that have to have something up report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► the news give a little bit of commentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► so a week maybe more than enough time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► to get something out Plus this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► review this is like a preview type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► thing I mean you saw this with line when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► I never wanted to talk about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► I want to save it all for my review I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► still kind of feel that but if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► going to go with yearly maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► doesn't fly anymore and maybe it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► to be I still just don't want to do one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► review I don't to do seven articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► about I just want to say look here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► review here it is but before leading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► to it I can discuss it a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► hash out I guess yeah alright usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► good at yeah we got to do our four way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► behind way behind John yeah we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► really good sponsor a new one I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► to tell you guys all about hover okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► however makes domain names symbol this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► this is like it's like a breath of fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► air for domain names that's how I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► you to frame this in your mind when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► think about it so I'll tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► some let me tell you first with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► customers of theirs are saying I went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► this you heard of Twitter these that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► have but I muted alright I went I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► on there use the Twitter here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► people saying moving to hover is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► walking through a dirty closet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► finding domain Narnia clean simple no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► tricks no upselling and that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► these guys they do not they do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► upsell and that's how you'll go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► you I don't want to name them the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► that do this but you know who I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► talking about they have it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► garbage you try to get in there you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► to register domain your ups are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► million different things oh you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► this you want to sign up for this click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► here to not sign up for these 20 service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► however com does not do that here's idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► they have smart simple tools their goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► renewing a domain name to changing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► password whatever it is is intuitive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► they have like a FedEx style tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► system so when you're doing your domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► name transfer it like it shows you where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► it is visually in the process I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► they're all about making this simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► they've got tons of helps and tutorials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► they've got a wonderful team that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► pride in solving problems if you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► them from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► rings a human being answers right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► and they know they get it they'll help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► thing fancy just good intentions and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► really great execution so here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► you do you go to hover.com slash dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► sent me and there's a special deal there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► use a coupon code dan sent me just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► you guys ten percent off so go check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► out hover calm and if you're still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► GoDaddy and didn't manage to get all her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► during the last big fit of everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► getting off GoDaddy yeah I was just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► good a time as any why not yeah why wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► I think I still have one that I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► get off GoDaddy I think I have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► dot name that I couldn't find somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► to take just see if Harper takes though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► get off of there man yeah no I got I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► stuff off when he died and instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► like consolidating I spread the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► around like all right take stuff off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► just put this one up as I didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► everyone says try this one try that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► yeah put a button now my domains are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► spread out across many providers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► they're all better than GoDaddy though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► all the ones that were recommended to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► Oh daddy I assume we'll never be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► sponsor of the show I I have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► honest um we do have some standards here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► and if they were to contact me with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► they are currently offering with what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► out there right now and godaddy.com if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► they were to inquire and say we'd like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► would say I'm sorry I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► a fit with with the audience if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► were to redo things change things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► stop killing elephants whatever I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► I would definitely talk to him about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► everybody can change Sean I've got open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► like a true businessman kind of is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► closed the door and going right ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► they can change you believe they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► change I believe everybody can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► its that if I believe in one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► fundamentally is that people everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► everybody can change and if they sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► that's her name maybe that would help it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► wouldn't hurt all right so gatekeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► gatekeeper yeah three modes well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► interesting because my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► from my my frenzied reading since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► yesterday is that this is another case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2513">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► influence over apples Directioners area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► of 2011 wrote an article called real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► security Mac os10 requires Apple signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► certificates it was a blog post right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► discussing sandboxing which is big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► that developers are worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► because many things that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► expect to be able to do are not allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► at your sandbox and he looked at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► supposed to do in the entitlements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► the you know you can do you're allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► to write files to disk but only in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► directory every single thing you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► have to have an entitlement for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► and and the second level is auditing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► where okay you have to submit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► application to the Mac App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► presumably they look to make sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► not harmful and the Wills point was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► entitlements and auditing are fine as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► far as the extent but they not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► are going to help you with malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► because first of all entitlements like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► something like needs to read from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► address book because it's an address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► book application if it's malware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► course it's going to masquerade as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► address book application and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► going to tell the Mac App Store people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► hey I need the read from address book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► entitlement I don't even know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► real entitlement by the way but I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► whatever entitlement because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► my app does and they go yeah that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► yeah you should have that entitlement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► you are an address book app or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► uh and auditing is you know you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► tell from a program whether it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► to do something harmful even if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► the source code it's very difficult it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► so both of those things can't possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► actually stop malware all they can do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► make it a little bit harder to sneak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► malware past and so oh well shepley's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► suggestion was that each developer be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► given an individual certificate such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► that when you load their application it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► is inextricably and cryptographically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► linked to their identity that's on file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► with Apple and if it turns out that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► have mount that you know you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► something bad or you're a naughty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► developer it turns out that malware or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► rendering in inert cross all Macs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► this was bullshit please suggestion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► you're saying like that sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► doesn't do this that the approval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► process doesn't do this what you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► a certificate authority controlled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► Apple that can nuke this app remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► and say we found this app is bad kill it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► because all the other things means like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► if you you know if your entitlements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► auditing stuff let's the malware get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► past then what do you do and like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► god one got passed you have no recourse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► you and and really same like like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► you actually need is the identity thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► because once something is malware will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► find out quickly because this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► internet and switch it off and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► different less severe and actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► suggested but it does hinge on the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► of connecting developers identities with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► applications that you can prove I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► application it is connected to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► then it Apple requires you know a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► and email address a real address like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► whatever they wanted that whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► do for their developer program so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► connect this back to a person all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► way to the point where you can say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► you did something illegal the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► take legal action against you because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► look this I this is not a mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► application we know the person who made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► this we can find them we have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► tax records for them because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► like that is not some sort of anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► thing that we don't know where it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► right but the key difference with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► gatekeeper versus what will Shipley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► suggest it is the gatekeeper doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► have that remote kill switch doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► everywhere and it sounds like well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► wasn't that the whole point the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► point was if malware slips through you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► need this remote kill switch it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► interesting they didn't do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► they could have you know it's a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► type of thing like all this will nuclei [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► but I think they actually have that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► the app store I'm not sure but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► gatekeeper does is block the the install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► or launch process there's no kill switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► to kill the application you already got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► it so when they revoke the certificate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► of bad company bla application bla that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► turns out to be malware it will only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► stop new people from installing it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► you already have that application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► have already launched it you are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► cured of them al where now they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► separate process for detecting malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► and they know the thing that didn't Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► Leopard in line where it will say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► is malware because you recognize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► signature of Allah ah that seems worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► is like what if I'm already infected I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► not being helped well look once you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► it's malware from reading the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► you don't know like you've already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► infected by that point so apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► application everywhere and it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► like heavy-handed of like this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► application that somebody has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► they've launched it and run it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► awhile then all of a sudden the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► it doesn't work it's kind of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► thing Amazon did with the 1984 book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► where they change the version of it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► revoked it or whatever people like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► it's creepy where something you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► using is fine and then they the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► it doesn't work people are pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► in the chat room that I guess maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► don't have a for iOS it's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► malware but things like I'm my copy of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► mean still works just fine you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► works fine too and my understanding is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► that if you have if you bought it and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► I mean if it's free but they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► consider free like purchasing if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► have purchased an app even if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► later subsequently removed from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► store you can still get it like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► put my name on any of my iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► that I buy until they change this rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► forever if I get a new I a new iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► today or when the new iPad three comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► out in March I go get it I can put on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► Mon that because I already got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► that's not malware that's just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► we don't approve there right but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► something that was that was in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► and then got rejected later a remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► polled later so they can do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► different with them on a malware all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► right but so the the point of gatekeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► is it seems like it leaves people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► lurch but the analogy that we'll simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► made on Twitter what's great is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► it's like it's like a virus like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► virus you don't need to cure people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► virus you just need to stop its spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and that's what gatekeeper does like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► second they flip that switch you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► quarantined it that will no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► spread anymore because anybody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► not already downloaded and launched this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► application will not be able to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► because were they to do so they'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► the certificates revoked involved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► they'll get the warning and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► that right ah now the three the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► radio buttons you were talking about are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► the different modes that you can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► your Mac in right one mode is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► you just run whatever the heck you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and this you know it's it's exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► same is in line you know when you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► Safari or something you download an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► application the first time you launch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► it says this application was downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► infinitely sure yeah yeah so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► already is like that Barry's been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► since I think just nut up Snow Leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► but that's the that's one mode that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► the opposite end of the spectrum Oh tis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► only run things from the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► and that's straightforward to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► it's like look anything is not from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► Mac App Store sorry not going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► and many people were afraid this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► happen because it would really kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► third-party market for applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► outside the Mac App Store and it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► option on mountain line but that is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► not the default the default is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► allow Mac App Store applications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► applications that are signed for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► applications that we can trace back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► record-keeping and that we can revoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► those certificates for it's different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► that right now individual developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► don't have a way to sign applications I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► mean you can you can do it with a code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► signature yourself and just sign it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► make sure the application hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► tampered with and it's lets you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► things like provide an update to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► application that doesn't ask you for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► keychain warnings again because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► prove that it's a set from the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► developer as before but really you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► just be a fly-by-night thing and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► your own little certificate and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► that you know it all does is help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► prove that your application hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► tampered with somebody else it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► protect you against malware because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► have no way to find you and hunt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► down and hold you accountable certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► in a way to revoke that certificate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► disable that application but the under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► mountain line the certificate would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► an Apple issued certificate they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► say ok you have proven to Apple that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► or this person here is a certificate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► please use this design your applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► instead of like that your you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► own sort of self signed certificate Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► as they guess the equivalent of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► if you know about SSL self-signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► certificates there's a third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► vouching for you saying you are who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► are sign your apps with this and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► the default mode the default mode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► anything for the Mac App Store is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► and anything you download off any place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► on the Internet as long as it's signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► certificate will let that go through - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► ah and again the idea is that if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► turns out to be malware Apple rogue so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► should you forget the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► infected or infected but we stopped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► spread so it's very deferential to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► almost to a fault to not stepping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► people's toes because you would assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► that every single reputable developer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► going to I mean they're already signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► up for the developer program probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► development tools or anything they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► not going to submit to the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► say they're not into that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► going to put it up on their own website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► they're going to sign it with the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► certificate so they can show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► they're up and up you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► and that being the default all it stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► people from running are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► aren't signed up what wouldn't be signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► weird open-source stuff which probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► people shouldn't be playing with anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► maintained like and that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► may be unfair to them was like a hug now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► I got to get a tip again I gotta sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► this ID just like having this free app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► there's lots of apps that run fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► they're not maintained for you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► haven't updated this version because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► runs fine it does some simple thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► it's made by developers who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► really Mac developers primarily this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► sound still like a grim scenario but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► realize that all this that I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► about is just a series of dialog boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► on the first launch that say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► about do you want to run this or not ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► and there's even a bypass where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► right-click and select open which nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► ever does if you ever don't do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► application and doesn't never yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► you right-click an application icon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► the finder and select open it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► as doing a double click but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► same on mountain lion in one particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► way if you do that it doesn't even put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► up the dialog box and says hey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► thing hasn't been signed or blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► blah like in other words people power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► users and people just want to run stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► will not be prevented from doing so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► this this is a series of dialog boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► that are making sure that you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► this and the reason requiring explicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► action like that that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► because malware you can imagine wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► to like auto launch or run itself by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► putting in your login items or do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► other thing that's not initiated by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► back that's like an extra level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► malware on top of like it just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► something bad when it runs so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► know what you're doing even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► default mode I mean I might actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► leave it in the default mode depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► on how well all this works even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► default mode where it says I only accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Mac App Store applications and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► that have been signed by an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► certificate you can still run all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► other stuff you just the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► run it right-click and select open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► it off it goes some of the chatroom says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► you sure that's not a bug no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► sure that's not a bug but uh like it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► pretty confident that power users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► people who just want to run stuff aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► going to be impaired by the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► amount in line but that it will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► almost everything that will should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► stopping malware not by nuking it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► remotely but by simply stopping its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► spread if there ever is any kind of app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► alright I'm brick nuke it from orbit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► only way I'd be sure so this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► nice compromising I think everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► pretty happy was compromised most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► developers I've seen and you know talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► to personally or read interviews with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► like you know the nightmare scenario was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► Mac App Store only and that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► compromise incorporating a concept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► was not really present in line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► earlier which is the idea of a trusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► apple developer being able to stake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► their reputation on you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► application like good good developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► want this good developers want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► able to say look I'm willing to say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► willing to stand behind what I produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► let my my inherent goodness and my good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► intentions be worth something and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► treat me the same way you treat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► would treat someone who is just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► to scam people or produce malware or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► frustrating for people who are longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► reputable solid Mac developers being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► subjected to the same rules as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► who are keyword spamming the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► and putting a bunch of crap apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► have malware hidden in them and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► like that that some way to connect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► reputation with your application and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► exchange for that connection to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► benefits and the benefits here are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► you continue to sell your application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► outside the Mac App Store there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► approval process that Apple does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► application has given higher standing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► operating system then some random things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► someone compiled into name and sign now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► on the issue of those dialog boxes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► come up Dustin Curtis had a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► complaining about the particulars of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► those dialog boxes and I kind of don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► blame him so once we do that we better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► we better do our second sponsor just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► because other you know I don't wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► slam them altogether and here's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► you can go blow your nose good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► second sponsor Rackspace comm a longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► sponsor but they've got some new stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► want to tell you about here's I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► to think about them they do they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► three things a cloud hosting to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► hybrid hosting those are the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► things that they do and they do them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► better than anybody else so let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► that you'd go and you just want a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► VPS you just that's all you want right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► now that's it that's all that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► you can go you can get that they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► there's your server ready to go then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► later on you get a client a client says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► oh man you know we want our own server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► we want two dedicated but we want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► department to surround this server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► just make sure that it's running we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► guess what managed hosting Rackspace has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► that oh you get you you want to combine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► all of these things you want dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► intensive applications you want cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► servers for on-demand scaling so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► when you get linked up from one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► biggest sites on the internet you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► handle it you want RAC connect that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► what you need seamless linking of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► environments the only guys that do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► the only ones that do this and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► got fanatical support they're amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► I've met these guys in person I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► love talking to them they're doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► really cool thing things at South by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► Southwest to support the community can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► tell you about it yet a secret go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► Rackspace comm to learn more about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► guys absolutely love them I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► be doing some more cool things with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► so check them out thanks very much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► their support Rackspace comm the dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► so you download a DM which is an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► source application sure as heck not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► going through the Mac App Store does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► subject any approval process GPL I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► I mean you download that on that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► and you try to run it okay in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► default configuration the dialog box you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► get says and it depends whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► running it raw or running it from a disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► image or anything like that it says Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► has not been signed by recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► distributor and may damage your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► you should move it to the trash that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► pretty harsh yeah move that's telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► you what to do with it yeah and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► buttons I think there actually is a move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► trash button the default button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► dialog box I see and Dustin Curtis this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► thing is eject disk image but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► that's only because it's from a disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► image had you just had the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► you know when they completely expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► just the application ends up in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► downloads folder yeah I think then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► default button would be moved to trash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► so has not been signed by recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► distributor that's true like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► that's what Apple wants to get banned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► applications for people who stick their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► application so that you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► screw you I'll never download software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► from this recognized person again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► it's up to Apple to maintain like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► know the identity system and make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► they don't keep trying to get new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► identities or whatever uh and may damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► your computer it's like whoa whoa okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► not signed by a recognized distributor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► but it's going to damage my you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► make that conclusion just because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► especially in the transition when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► going to take people a while especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► people who are not accustomed to doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► any kind of code signing like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► applications that are not updated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► frequently to get on board say okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► guess if we don't want to be put in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► in this ghetto like this is the flipside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► of the trusted great triple-a developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► preferential treatment because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► willing to go through these hoops it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► means that everyone else who was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► kind of like well we've been going along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► fine we got this app it's pop it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► this thing now now they have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► something they didn't have to do before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► to get in to that good camp and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► saying it may damage your computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► guess that's true it may but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► vast majority of software is not malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► it seems kind of harsh uh and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► should move it to the trash it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► even like like they're gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► then you know may damage your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► in case it's not clear to you we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► you should just chuck this thing down so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► this is a pretty big stick to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► anybody who's on the up-and-up get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► get an Apple certificate sign your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► applications no approval process no cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► of profits just get the certificate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► sign it so you don't won't be subjected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► to this Dustin calls it a fear mongering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► dialog it is kind of fear mongering but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► like if you want the benefits of I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► trusted developer I you know I want all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► the benefits that come with me doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► right thing the flip side of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► that the people who aren't willing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► those things get get dinged so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► the dialogue is kind of harsh but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► it's the it's the flip side of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► that everybody wants you can't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► good part without the bad part and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► is the bad part and I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► will take that long for developers to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► this and especially since like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► installs software you know you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► knowledgeable about computers you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► them to buy from the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► and if they're you maybe don't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► applications now maybe you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► install IDM for somebody and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► say okay you know cancel you can click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► through that dot it's not stopping you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► from doing it's just a scary message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► like you know Adam is fine I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► using it for years you know and go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► this ugliness is motivation for the atom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► developers to get a certificate in sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► and I'm assuming they will assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► restrictions or whatever they will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► that now the other issue that related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► the sort of the haves and have-nots the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► good guys and the bad guys split that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► you know starting to happen here is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► and this continues to be a source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► contention for even the good developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► Apple has been introducing api's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► are only available to applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► are in the Mac App Store and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► continues in mountain line so the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► applique P is alclad is neat you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► you want to use it you got to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► why no technical reason just that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► that's apples carrot and stick approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► all over again like the carrot is hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► cut api's the stick is and you better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► get in our App Store if you want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► because I don't know because they want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► couple of profits because I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► Mac App Store is a better experience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► all users and they want to encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► people to go in there using every tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► in their disposal to try to get you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► the Mac App Store Notification Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► reportedly reportedly from the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► I don't even remember who said it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► also you know it's a headline feature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► a mountain line you can look at it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► Apple's website it's very similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► growl and Notification Center on iOS 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► you want to use that apparently you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► to be in the Mac App Store and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► obvious question for all the Triple Aim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► AG developers is hey well if we do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► certificate and we put the Apple stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► reputation with this application can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► use iCloud then can we use Notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► Center and people who have asked that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► their briefings to Apple Apple has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► nothing to announce no Bob you know wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► you watch like they don't have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► clearly Apple is getting the feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► I'm sure they're getting an earful of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► now that's what people want they say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► know we don't want to be subject to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► approval process we don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► to be sandbox like the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► ones do especially if you can't resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► this untenable issue where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► transmit the FTP application literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► cannot exist with the sandboxing as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► currently exists now because it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► whole point is that it writes reads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► writes arbitrary locations and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► the file system you know we would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► would like to be as good as citizen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► we can be but we just can't be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► Mac App Store because our application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► doesn't fit in your definition of what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► proper Mac App Store application is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► we do want to use the iCloud API we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► want to use Notification Center why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► in terms of feature parity and API use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► simply because we're not in the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► Store it so it's that's still a rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► situation in the middle there and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► a place where developers I'm sure are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► sending Apple their feedback and should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► be sending it and saying hey if we sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► if we if we connect ourselves to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► app let us use all the api's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► really hope Apple does the reverse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► decision you're upset yeah I like it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► upsetting time like I can't yeah any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► time I think apples making a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► because I can't think of like what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► what is the what is the motivation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► keeping iCloud Mac App Store only if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► think Apple is evil it's like well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► want to cut up your money they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► have control they want to they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► control your destiny completely they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► want you under their thumb and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► you in the Mac App Store does that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► don't think Apple is cartoonishly evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► so you have to what else is it the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► side thing is they really believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► the Mac App Store experience as proven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► by the iOS experience is such an enabler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► of more people buying applications more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► people using them people having fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► problems that a controlled experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► installation of installation is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► for the customer and what's better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► the customer is better for Apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► eventually is better for the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► like everyone hated the iOS App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► where they had such tremendous control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► and approval process and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► but the benefit is that people are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► afraid to install apps on their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► right and if you're a developer you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► going to complain about the approval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► process until a bazillion people install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► your stupid tilting beer-drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► application on day one of the iPhone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► would have never gotten eight million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► beer-drinking application the day of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► applications and on Mac OS was scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► and installing it in iOS was tap-tap-tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► look good you tilted it looks like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► that that experience you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► light side explanation that Apple really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► believes this is good for everybody yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► it's super painful and annoying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► developers and his issues to be worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► out but it's good for Apple because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► get some of your money everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► platform it's good for users because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► applications and eventually eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► applications that cannot exist on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► Mac App Store as the rules currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► apply like SuperDuper which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► awesome application or transmit which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► everybody loves for file transfer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► that's something has to be fixed there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► that's like a problem to be addressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► because what are they going to say oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► think file transfer is not important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► anymore or we think disk cloning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► something that should only be handled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► the OS vendor and we don't care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► billions of users love that product you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► know that's something that needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► worked out and that's that's a source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► frustration and the fact again that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► sandboxing stuff like the people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► like panic or asking about transmit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► didn't even know if Dave is asking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► super duper but they would like to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► so what's the deal with a sandboxing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► said we all have to be sandbox by such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► literally cannot cannot distribute our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► application sandbox so we cannot be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► the Mac App Store or say they're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► Mac App Store now and have to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► themselves out we've got to leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► Mac App Store if you enforce this rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► so they move the deadline and still no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► word in sandboxing so we're all still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► waiting on that Apple loves to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► about these things long and hard kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► like they presumably thought long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► hard on gatekeeper and I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► good sign that gatekeeper uses a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► suggested I think we'll Shipley was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► briefed actually a mountain lion and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► would he be briefed well because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► said hey you know that thing you wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► the big lock blog post about which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► re-read because you're a prominent Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► developer well let's show you what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► did what do you think of this it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► of like what you suggested but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► actually a different and better and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► interesting ways that's I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► why you briefed real shipley on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► that's the new kinder gentler Apple they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► don't just implement your thing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► you find out with everyone else they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► come in and say hey we like that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► take a look I don't know what the cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► and effect relationship is they may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► been working on something like that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► a while but clearly Apple is a being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► not above acknowledging that fact he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► used to be that you know Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► read a bunch of stuff and be influenced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► by but they would never come out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► oh because we'll Shipley suggested this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► they were just never do that it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► it wasn't done but you don't admit where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► our inspiration comes from you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► can draw your own conclusions but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► they were just by you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► they're coming out and saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► we we're going to brief you and we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► what you did and check this out isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► this cool and that's nice to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► stingy with the with the praise or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► anything it could be some sort of legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► thing where they don't want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► so Apple took my idea I'm going to sue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► you but that's the kind relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► people want to have with Apple's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► they they they can call will Shipley and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► show him what they did and not think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► he's going to go home get a lawyer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► sue them for stealing it Lydia you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► that's not the world we want to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► Squarespace what is it this is a fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► hosted completely managed environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► for creating and maintaining a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► website blog portfolio who's it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► for anyone who wants to create an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► amazing website ok blogging business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► stuff photography whatever it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► doesn't matter they can power sites of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► all sizes and and what's amazing is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► give you full control over your content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► and site customization you could build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► website you can create a blog and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► can do it ten times faster with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► something that's totally awesome I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► it Merlin Mann has a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► example of this and basically what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► is a called slideshow - and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► added tons and tons of options so you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► seen these really cool slideshows out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► there that have rode you know they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► they slide they have links they do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► that anything man this stuff is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► complicated it's not if you use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► stuff and it's all built in you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► to check these guys out squarespace.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► and when you go there use the code dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► sent me to the number two and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► get a 15% off for your first six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► amazing service thanks very much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► Squarespace comm for making this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► possible it's got one more thing on molo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► you know like the meloa you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► like I like the beans growing on me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► it still seems a little silly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► unnecessary it is but when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► say it I like it I like Singh mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► lion mountain lion yeah if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► notice it you just swallow up a mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► I don't know so this is something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► were getting up earlier in the show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► mountain lion could potentially keep us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► in the region of pain of Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► versions either for a longer period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► time or perhaps perpetually and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► region of pain has traditionally been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► defined as 10 point X point zero through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► five ish so those are the versions where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► you're like alright so 10 point X point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► Oh everyone's like okay the point one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► going to be out in like a few weeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► there's going to be bugs or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► we'll get over it but it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► take these releases a while to settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► down you mentioned how ten point six was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► so great in stable and ten six zero was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► not that great and ten six like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► early ten six versions I would I avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► upgrading some computers because I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► upgraded other ones and seen a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► problems I'm like no I don't wanna deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► with that an app incompatibility and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► sorts of things where you know app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► having to battle you some of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► can control but it's like look if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► bunch of my applications don't run right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► on Snow Leopard yet I'm not going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► to Snow Leopard yet so I wait a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► bit ten six 110 62 then those app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► developers get around to okay here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► Snow Leopard native you know not in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► awkward native but here's one that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► with Snow Leopard we resolved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► annoying bug and you know the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► so by the time you pull the trigger when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► it's up to ten six three ten six four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► something all your apps are ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► apples worked out the worst of the bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► and then you get into like the salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► days ten six five ten six six ten six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► seven ten six eight but time you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► 1068 man ten six is solid right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► that's what you're running on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► little minis that are running headless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► somewhere right it's the latest version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► of United States that's what you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► what you want because you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► yeah and like but you know ten five when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► it's like 10 5 9 w got 10 5 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► remember like by the time you get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► those late dots you know they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► adding features anymore and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► stamping out bugs and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► it's a confidence builder yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► there's no reason you have to upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► a new operating system either you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► say well if you're happy with that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► but Apple has just been so aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► about encouraging people to upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► sticking like for example sticking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► ten six that's really tough like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► one machine left in my house that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► ten six and like not a week goes by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► I don't download an application and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► a little circle with a line through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► over the icon telling me oh this is ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► seven only like I don't even think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► it I just download it and I didn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► at the fine print and I get in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► Applications folder yep sorry ten seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► only like why is this ten seven only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► this thing has doesn't use any ten seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► specific API is you know because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► is so good and incurred you know it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► be sin seven only because just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► they wanted to use like some Objective C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► feature that only this in ten seven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► is easier to use in ten seven they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► didn't have to worry about tens like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► there's so many reasons to follow apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► lead it very quickly your ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► stand an old operating system and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► continue to participate in the community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► of people developing new applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► and updating existing applications is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► impaired so when the releases were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► longer and you had ten six five through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► eight or whatever then you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► like that's nice that the OS is changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► much everybody's apps have been updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► to be it's not to be you know Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► Leopard compatible and it's just there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► a smooth sailing for a while before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► next big disruption ah now what is Lian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► going to be up to before mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► comes out a lion is on ten seven three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► now is it even going to get to ten seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► five before it's rudely replaced with 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► 10 8 zero yeah and then we're back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► and that's exacerbated by the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► some basic stuff that work that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► work right in ten seven didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► right in ten seven zero fine were used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► to that but we're on ten seven three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► Safari is still blanking out my tabs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► going all white and my mouse still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► occasionally you wake the computer up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► the mouse won't move anymore I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► plug and unplug and that didn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► on Snow Leopard and we're up to ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► seventy three all right so maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► just before mountain lion comes out ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► seven four or five issues out and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► problems disappear but then I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► whole new crop of problems like well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► ever will be perpetually be in a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► where we're in the immature wringing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► period of an operating system if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► going to do you really releases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► that's why I really hope Apple takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► churn rate and says we've got to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► conservative with what we change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► these OS is we can't do you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► maybe they go to a tick tock model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► because if they don't go to tick tock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► model I think users will tick tock model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► is you do one big radical change then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► you refine and you do one big radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► change and then you're you're fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► it doesn't have to do with how much new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► wizzy stuff on this is on the screen has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► to do with like little annoying bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► like oh we changed the way Wi-Fi works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► and now Dan can't get his Wi-Fi work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► consuming only do that in I forget if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► it's the ticker the talk do that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► every other release it's not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► headline feature like the little airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► you know everything looks the same like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► they change but underneath it so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► had to rip out the guts and totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► replace it because they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► revising the operating system fine good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► do that but only do the the totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► overhauling Wi-Fi and one release and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► then the next release do not overhaul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► Wi-Fi again just hammer out the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► right because no matter how an operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► system is I'm respective of like do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► like how the apps look do I like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► they did to Mission Control versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► expose and stuff like that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► even though I'm talking about I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► talking about the basic functionality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► like can't wake from sleep networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► not reliable a little annoying niggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► bugs that are like I'll come on do I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► I even want to think about this anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► I don't want to think about Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► working it's just supposed to work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► when it doesn't you feel just betrayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► by the entire experience you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► don't even have time to get mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► Mission Control some other thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► scrolling or whatever your pet peeve is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► UI wise because you I I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► roll with the punches let them change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► because that stuff can change but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► Wi-Fi doesn't work right man that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► me think oh I shouldn't have I shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► have up grid I don't know I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► lot of these problems of the blind but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► like the Safari one drives me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► because they even backboard that to 10-6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► its downgraded experience in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► reliability I held off on safari 5-1 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► a really long time and you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► by 1073 that I would earn doubt nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► they do not so if they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► that intend you know if they can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► type of cycle if if they keep doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► like if ten eight is just like ten seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► has been then what people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► stabilized to ten seven seven like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► some security patch or you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► because they do continue to update them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► after the new one comes out with most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► people security updates right I'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► well I'm not gonna upgrade a 10-8 I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► wait for ten nine like skip every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► that will be users voting with their not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► so much but their wallets but with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► you know with their point releases to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► say I can't be on the cycle I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► every single summer totally destroy my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► computer's ability to base to do basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► functions and wait for two more point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► releases and if I say oh I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► to upgrade to ten eight until I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► ten eight four well then like ten nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► is just being announced then all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► so Apple really needs to if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► going to increase this like like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► they really need to nail down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► reliability otherwise either adoption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► reputation it's going to suffer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► if they keep up the adoption curve by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► really encouraging everyone to just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► upgrade and upgrading people are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► to start to think of max as being less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► reliable you know because these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► you know point-o problems will still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► there and and if they don't keep up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► adoption curve then they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► in a situation where people are waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► and like well we just released ten eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► why isn't everybody upgrading well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► because ten seven is finally settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► down they don't want to go through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► again so they're just going to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► ten nine because they know it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► next year you know I mean so this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► be this is a puzzle for them and this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► the way some people complained about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► that in my line review like why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► you complain about all these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► things that don't work every point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► is like that and when I write my review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► I'm writing off the dev free use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► maybe I get to see the point zero I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► don't like to in an OS review say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► is super buggy so you shouldn't buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► operating system because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► expiration date on that statement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► usually pretty short and in in a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► or a week or whatever when the point 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► to point 2 comes out history is showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► the most those things get ironed out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► couldn't have predicted the future that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► 10-7 was going to have these problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► and they wouldn't be ironed out by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► point one the point two or the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► three right so I in all these ruse I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► have to say I don't even discuss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► topic really I say look it's as reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► as I expect 2.0 to be and these minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► issues are going to ironed out now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► acknowledge the fact that didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► out so well for ten seven if they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► something we need to think about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► terms of reviewing it I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► fair to to ding the OS and say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► shouldn't upgrade to this because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► kind of like implicit in all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► like look don't upgrade until all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► apps are ready until it's settled down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► or whatever but overall what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► trying to do with this OS gets thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► sideways you know so I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► think about that for ten eight I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► probably just judge the features and new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► applications on on their intentions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► their implementation and not get hung up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► on predicting the future of niggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► little bugs so what do you think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► nothing less than I expected for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► really wish I do could talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► internals because there are some talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► about them but now I can't do it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► do it it's under its under NDA why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► today was supposed to be they were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► talk about file systems remember that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► do remember that that's a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► I still have notes on that I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► looked so I can say this without fear of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► breaking NDA but my guess is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► nothing exciting happening on the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► system front tonight but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► that for a fact because I literally have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► not looked but I will be sad if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► true very sad and we can talk about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► perhaps on another show yeah I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► questions I guess that are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► related to the way that you will maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► be writing this review and using what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► are your plans then immediately will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► be confiscating your wife's computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► molo on it I installed it and ran it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► I mean I have many disks so I installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► it and played with it on my Mac Pro last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► night but when I'm writing my review I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► like to have like my environment on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► Mac Pro to do the writing sure and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► don't like to sort of and I like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► testing a pretty clean machine so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► a dedicated iCloud account just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► review writing so it's not it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► real contacts it's not my real stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► it's not the accumulated cruft of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► twenty-something years of me bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► high information around like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► want it to try something in the OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► have it not work because I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► corrupted preference file from ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► ago so I like to have a nice clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► install a new Apple ID and just get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► the experience that a new user would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► setting everything up and doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► so that's why I need a second computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► interview when I did me this deal my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► wife's computer to have hers running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► line next to me she's since gotten a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► computer she has 11 and Jer now with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► big Thunderbolt Display and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► so the old MacBook Pro that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► pre unibody MacBook Pro the one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► before that is completely free for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► use and not have to bother her computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► at all of course so that's what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► today I've installed mountain lion on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► booted up logged in and core image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► doesn't work so nothing draws the menus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► applications I can just sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► looking at the doc in the menus I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► even pull down a menu so some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► GPU driver bug in the previous is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► previous and the preview release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► mountain lion which means that I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► actually use her MacBook Pro until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► guess the next Developer Preview so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► was trying to install it in VMware I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► heard you say that people were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► installing mountain lion in VMware but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► I've heard from at least one person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► has had success instilling that mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► VMware so so the person I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► details of the person I had just seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► Arnold Kim who does the MacRumors stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► uh that's he doesn't he does the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► rumors right I yes I think so yeah so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► had retweeted somebody else who had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► screenshot of the kernel of a kernel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► panic when trying to give it who knows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► mean that was that was done near 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► hours ago a lot has happened since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► VMware is touchy like in preparation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► getting mountain lion on island update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► update my line VM 210 73 because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► on ten 72 because I hadn't run it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► while and by the way running lion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► VMware is actually officially supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► and allowed it's not some illicit thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► like VMware supports that you're allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► to do it it works without any hoops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► jumping through just straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► install and during the ten seven two to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► three update in VMware this progress bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► like stop the midway through I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► that time machine was grinding the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► so I saw all right stop time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► don't back up you know stop backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► let let VMware go and VMware would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► progress anymore and I'm assuming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► some sort of weird interaction of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► file locking or maybe there's some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► of deadlock or where VMware is waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► for permission from a lock acquired by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► time machine to continue its work if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► someone wasn't thinking along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► lines and wasn't running like FS usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► like I was from the command line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► whether you know DTrace type stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► figure out what the heck's going on they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► may just assume that it's impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► upgrade from ten seventy two to three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► and vmware but it's not true it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► they I'm assuming somewhere there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► sort of like deadlock situation so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► I did was totally shut down the vm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► machine quit the application to release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► all locks turned off time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► brought the thing back up redid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► update from from the last snapshot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► suddenly it worked so the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► tried to install mountain lion in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► kernel panicked you know maybe something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► else was going on that was angering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► vmware because it's you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► type of thing where it that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► think it's totally plausible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► somebody was successful in somebody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► not or that somebody was successful with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► their second try but not with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► first try so i maintain hope that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► will that i will be able to install it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► and I also hope that whatever the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4978">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► developer preview of mountain lion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► will install on my wife's old laptop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► I don't have to steal her macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► again which she has angrily forbidden me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► from doing but what's the other yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► know it's also actually I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► think I can do that because like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► I steal the air and I put it on the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► next to me obviously I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► actually install mountain lion on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► air like it's always on an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► drive but then how do I connect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► external drive to the air I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► any thunderbolt drives and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► external drives that are currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► connected are computer are done through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► the Thunderbolt Display and that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► in the other side of the rooms not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► movable so I'll have to figure something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► or I could just try to get a writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► environment up in Mountain Lion I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► suppose I could do that just it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► feel right to me like having a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► stuff but now that you're on a yearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► cycle for this I would think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► would need a computer that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► dedicate for this it's clearly something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► you're going to need it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► you're going to get you know three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► in between your reviews anymore you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► be you will be working on this on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5036">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► dedicated computer for this I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► think that you need to acquire one well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► in the natural cycle of recycling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► computers that should happen like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► wife's MacBook Pro which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► it's got four gigs of RAM it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► quality machine it's nothing wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► it it's it's perfectly capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► running a mountain line even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► not you know it's not even a unibody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► MacBook Pro so it in theory that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► be like oh she gets a new computer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► make new Mac Pros come out Ivybridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► Marco thank kill me if they ever produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► numerous a new Mac Pro I will buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► pretty quickly and then I'll have an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► Mac Pro this machine is still awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► that I'm using right now and that old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► Mac Pro would become the machine so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► don't feel like I need to buy a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► machine for it I should just have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► as a natural process of me constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► getting new Macs it's just for in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► weird situation here where the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► refuses to ever be updated and the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► machine that I have it's perfect for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► testing mountain lion on the particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► developer preview that we have available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► now is angry Cory Cory image is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► angry is the core image it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► been CL instead of C I couldn't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► from the font it could if it was CL it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► could be an open CL thing I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► graphics drivers angry there are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► angry on that machine so it's useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► Gruber says that I should end my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► early and sit in a talk-show I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► tell if he's joking um be great if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► want to but you you have to stop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► I'm trying to bring it and that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► that's hot job you got to tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► you said we got a hard stop at 1:30 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► like all you got to go somewhere be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► it's just Gruber that's not hard stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► come on like he's ever gonna be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► 1:30 exactly he says he's listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► right now he is that is that's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► strange he's actually here listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► live I don't think I don't know if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► ever does is maybe sick okay anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► all done so I will stop at 1:30 as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► requests you don't want to sit in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► don't wanna be part of the talk shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► I'll sit in for a little while I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► sit him for the whole show if he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► wants that I don't know if he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► straighten out with him if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► want to do it we're gonna end this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► first night yeah well end well so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► end this show so here's what you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► do you want to follow this guy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► Twitter follow Syracuse at nosy si RAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► us a nosy in there and you now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► blogging now you're writing recipes is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► pasta how to make pasta so maybe tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► that's Sark use that a tumblr calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► because I didn't come up with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► domain for it I think that is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► domain in 2012 that's whatever all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► kids have that yeah I like that almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► once a year can you put that into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► we'll do that even though we have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► discussed it I'll put in the show all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► right now we have discussed well we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► so the show notes five by five TV slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► hypercritical slash fifty-five and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► want to say thanks very much to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► lovely ladies at help spot calm the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► darn help desk software in the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► so go check them out to their supporters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► of this show you can follow me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► twitter i'm dan benjamin and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► we just wanted to mention one more thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► which is last week you could not record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► so we did a I don't know if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► authorized or unauthorized but you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► didn't want it in the hyper critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► stream which is understandable it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► a hyper critical show it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► critical yeah you can call it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► critical it's a different show kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► critical Marco Arment and Merlin Mann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► joined me for a tribute to you where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► criticize some things and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► episode 54 was not hypocritical is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► tribute yeah that was straight little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► Jack Black reference for those of you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► the audience so we had episodes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► hypercritical is actually just a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► service announcement it was a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► complaint about that somebody who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► it paraphrasing but I I was all ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► go and I hopped in the car and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► ready for my hypercritical and instead I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► got this crap you're telling me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► was no hypercritical shame on you and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► that person and anybody else who had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► similar experience I apologize that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► why I did want it to go into the stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► so that would not happen so I'm sorry if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► I let you down but if you have if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► want to complain to someone about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► complain to me because I will not let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► anything in the hypercritical feed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► does not feature me no not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► happen I think that's perfectly valid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► your show and for people who didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► subscribe to the after-dark subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► the special subscribe to at the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► they're low volume they're not there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► the time but you want to have them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► your iPod so just put them in there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► so shame on them yes alright well thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipm3-9FQ/5325">TS</a>]