00:00:02 ◼ ► this is hypercritical weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► about by my co-host John siracusa I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/12">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► Dan Benjamin today is December 9th 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► this is episode number 45 we would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/19">TS</a>]
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00:00:24 ◼ ► software and Squarespace we'd also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/24">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► to mention that this episode is brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/29">TS</a>]
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00:00:36 ◼ ► five thousand other great podcasts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► demand and on the go the stitchers free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► mobile app I love this app here's goto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► stitcher dot-com / 5 fi ve download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/43">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► today and you might even win a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► bucks John sir is a Jonathan or John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► siracusa just John just don't wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► so if I were to if we were to go pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► out your birth certificate jail it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► alright it's what you would see on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/61">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► not jail win that's right I'm a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/62">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► the jail in spelling not me no need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► age just English hmm so I'm not a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/70">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► to 100% today do I sound ok oh you sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► great yeah oh this is this is me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► the stuffy nose and I still have a cough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► too so I will try to I'll try to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► muting what I COFF unlike certain other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► John's with an H instead he had his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► on the finger on the mute button and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/88">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► cough the whole time yeah something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► know if York office too bad sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► you just can't just can't make through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► the button you're just coughing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► alright I trust you yeah you ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► some follow-up I'm always ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► follow-up John all right we'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► with though I think this whole episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► actually is going to be follow up I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► some wow new topics here and there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► they're really kind of follow up type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/114">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► oh come on by the way my friend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► Jonathan it's not an alternate spelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► of Jo HN so if you see John jo n that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/122">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► an abbreviation for Jonathan if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► abbreviation for anything this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► my friend says do you trust him he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► pretty book smart Wow coming from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/137">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► man who reads a lot well I'm saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/142">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► as a backhanded compliment to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/147">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► he's not very street smart oh all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/148">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► some presuming so as I was saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► this is mostly going to be follow up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► they're gonna be long follow-up so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► anything at the tail end of this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► I know we're just going to go to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► these things that I have sure we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► start with the the bite-size follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► we got one more pronunciation follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► and it's game related just love the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► PlayStation handheld game console that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/176">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► Sony makes called the PlayStation VI ta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► several different times and several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► different shows and always waffled about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► how you're supposed to pronounce it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► Chris Moore writes to tell me that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/190">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► Vita the ITA is Brown's Vita and how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/191">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► I know he's right how do we know he's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► don't we wait what you do is you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► this on the show and then if someone if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► we're wrong 50 people write in and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► that Chris Moore does nobody's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/205">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► about and it's not actually betta it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► vitae or something else no it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/208">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► talking about factually which naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► would bug somebody but if we Eve you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► there's a slight mispronunciation even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► slight ah people just oh they lose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► they come apart at the seams well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/226">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► because the author just made up words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/231">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► and you're not sure how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► stuff like that with regular English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► words I think that's that's more valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► to call people on that sure but I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► want we strive for accuracy here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► actually going back to the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► that I had the pronunciation thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► the PlayStation game spelled ICO that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/248">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► always call ICO but the apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► correct pronunciation in Japanese is eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► I wondering like was it just me I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► happened to pick the wrong pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► for this game and never had occasion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► say the name of the game you know as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► with many of these proper nouns that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► you write it online you write it at IMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► and emails but you never actually say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► or if you do say it you know no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► cares you just use your pronunciation it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► just sails by well I was thinking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► to where I might have gotten ICO from or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► whether the pronunciation in the u.s. is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► supposed to be different or where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► world is wrong together and so I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► doing some Google searches for the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► pronounciation and stuffing to see lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/289">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► of people having different theories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► a couple different people coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► I go here's the Japanese characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► it's unambiguous in Japanese but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► the things you find doing searches are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► lot of walkthroughs on YouTube where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► see people playing the game and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► times the walkthroughs have a narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► describing what he's doing and or at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► beginning of the walkthrough they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► Here I am and I'm playing all those all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► those walkthrough say ICO doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► it's right it's just strange that the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► guess the American default pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► when they see ICO is ICO instead of Eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/317">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► alright moving on from pronunciation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► shoved in this follow up just is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► little tiny thing that I want to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/326">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► before I get to the other stuff add in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► there I think you talked about it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► talk show the new iBooks UI yes John was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► talking about that which now there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► option to remove the Chrome and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► just the entire expanse of the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► now taken up just by the the page so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► don't have the extra chrome around there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/349">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► yeah it's an option it's not a default I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► don't remember if I complained about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► iBooks UI at any point or if I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► it was so so terrible that it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► worth even talking about but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► I've always hated that stupid image of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► book inside an iPad it's it's an Akron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► is thick it's skeuomorphic it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► doesn't serve a purpose and they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► even go whole hog with like changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► thickness of the pages that you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► through the book it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► horrible it's taking up space right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► it's not you know but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► but the same same thing I said in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► line review so why does Apple do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► well it's whimsical and fun and reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► people a book so if you're demoing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► iPad in the store you want to go to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/389">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► thing lets you read books online you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► like oh wow looks like a book and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/392">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► it makes you comfortable with the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► that what you're doing is reading a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/396">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► quiz it looks just like the books you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► in that respects the same reason I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► it of course that this is not supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► to be the old medium is suppose to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/403">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► the new medium but that smooth kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► entry ramp and comforting feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► I bet sells a lot of iPads you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► you see on the ads on TV if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► showed a page with a bunch of text on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► that means nothing to anybody before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► show something that looks like a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► and with some text on today see the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► part like oh I can read books on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► thing ah okay right hang on hang on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► second that might make sense for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► iPad but what about for Mac os10 what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► what's the reason behind doing that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► iCal or address book then oh yeah well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► like I said it's the same the same ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► that uh well it's two separate things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► one is why did this come to pass and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► think the answer to that we all assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► is because that's how Steve Jobs wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► it right but that that doesn't say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► independent of how it got to be this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► does this way have any value and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► on the Mac it has the same type of value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► in that oh this is the nadar's book it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► looks like the address book I'm familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► with the calendar thing less so because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► calendar kind of but it's got buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► all over it or whatever on the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► side of that or all the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► bad about it and I think it's a net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► negative in both places a pretty big net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► negative in both cases but there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► there are reasons there are rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► reasons in the Pro column for this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► of look but it for reading it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► it's just hideous because after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► first five minutes that you sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► realize that yeah this is where you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► to read your books that's just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► visual noise you don't ever look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► edges they provide you know information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► they take up room that could be filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► with content or just just empty space to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► be you know visually more calming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► just not you read books it's thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► and thousands of screens full of text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► and that other stuff is just in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► so calling it calling it full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► mode is kind of one of those I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/514">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► know how they came up with it though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/518">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► it's already full screen iBooks always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► took up the entire screen they just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► to come up with a name for it that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► like stop showing the ugly crap mode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/524">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► expert mode or after the first five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► minutes mode or you know it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► like you should have call the other mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► demo mode like they have demo mode for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► brightness and saturation right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► everything looks like a funhouse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► that draws people to the things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► store they don't ship the TVs in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► you hope it's not in that mode and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► is I would hope that you change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► represent in the store they go into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► display mode or demo mode so that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► what iBooks is now the question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► should they change the default obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► on the in-store displays I think it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► everyone's interest to keep the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► crazy book look because I mean draws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► understandable to people who have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► idea that you can read books on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► flat screen thing that this is the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/570">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► where you go to read books and here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► book and isn't it cute and it's Winnie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► the Pooh it's a little image the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► reason they wish your demos with books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► with images and stuff like that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► going to read a novel they're most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► likely if you're going to read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► but they want to show them we need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► Pooh thing because all look it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► little title header and the drop cap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► the picture we need the Pooh and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► cute and looks like a little book really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► I don't get expert users I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► should get too upset about the faults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► defaults it may be a disservice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► regular users who will never know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► there's a way to change it that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► going to be staring at that weird book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► thing but in the grand scheme of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► up they'll probably get over it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► is the fact they called it full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► mode I would never have guessed they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► would have used that sort of language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► jiu-jitsu to try to give it a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► they'd like you know admit no fault a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► but provide a feature that obviously it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► you know they need and also iBooks I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► continue to get the impression that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► iBooks is not doing great like Amazon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► just eating their lunch now amazon seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► to have a better selection sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/636">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► everywhere if you ask anyone what should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► I get from my e-reader thing they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/642">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► Kindles got the mind share in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► books and it's like apples thing isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► also-ran which is not the position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► digital sales where iTunes is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/650">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► also-ran alright they're they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► dominant player in music and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► know how they're doing in video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► because it's tied to the iTunes name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► like they feel like yeah we're the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/660">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► dog where iTunes but iBooks is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► whatever will and so having this having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► the weird book looking thing is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► way to sell iPads and I think that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► it's serving apples interest but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► not a great way to become the dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► power or even a big player in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► market and I think the full-screen mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► is a recognition that we were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► apples behind on readers they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► this silly thing which is good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► sell iPads but it's not really a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/688">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► way to attract the readers the readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► know like the serious ebook reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► things I don't know any serious ebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/693">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► reader person who intentionally buys an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► iBook version rather than a kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► version or series ebook reader people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► are heavily invested in the Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/699">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► curiosity I can't remember less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► I've launched iBooks to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► other than perhaps look at a PDF because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► the thing prompts me and it wants open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► it in books and I say fine all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► know that well they're not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► there are a lot of people who very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► like that that effect you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► when they're in store and to them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► flipping the page and seeing it stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► right under your finger as you turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► page that's that's like the selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► point for them that makes you buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► iPad but it doesn't like they'll know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► they'll never read a book on it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► yeah well if you were to become an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► e-book reader like you know you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► never read books on the thing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► decide you're going to give it a try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► you find that you like the advantage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/739">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► review will very quickly find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/740">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► sliding into the Kindle world or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► Kindle ecosystem I imagine because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► will start connecting with other heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► eBook readers and they will suggest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► you that you are using iBooks so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/749">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► should try Kindle or you know just try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► the Kindle Regency which is if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► it and it's connected to your Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► account and you can put stuff on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► you know well you'll get sucked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► that ecosystem usually and I'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► fan of the Kindle reader either I've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► was a big fan of an e-reader which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► the reader made by friends of mine back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► at the e-book company that I worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/766">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► grudgingly added when the Kindle reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► first came out for iOS so like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► their reader it's got one-eighth of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► features you know across we're used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► this is a reader they've been developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► different fonts and it just customizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► color schemes and different schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► customization that we were all used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/787">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► you know if you're an expert user you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► want what I want it to be tap left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/790">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► right turn pages I wanted to be top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► bottom I want to be swipe to turn pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► I like this fun I have a custom color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► I have my sets of highlights and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► and I want those house to be preserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/799">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► when I updated you know all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► that Amazon is slowly gradually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► adding but the first Kindle app they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► came out was like you know barely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► to okay I can read books on that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► but this doesn't have one eighth of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► features so it took me a while to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► over to Kindle but inevitably as they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► come to dominate content distribution I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► buy Kindle e-books I read them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► Kindle reader and I suffer through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► ways in which the Kindle reader is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► up to the umpteen features that I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► an e-reader but now basically all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/827">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► Microsoft we talked about that a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► shows ago I got some follow up on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► Michael Anderson wrote something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► parentheses or you cannot have your cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► and I let the length of that will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/845">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► show notes it's a nice blog post and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► brings up a good point that I missed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/851">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► my whole discussion which was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/852">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► Microsoft's fear then and now may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/856">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► have in addition to I think it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► addition to being afraid that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► would eat their lunch that someone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► take all their customers that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► didn't serve them someone else would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► that the idea that Microsoft's biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► competitor is not another company but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► previous versions of Microsoft's own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► products so that the enterprise will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► go to a different vendor they'll simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► stick with whatever version of Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► they have and that's bad for Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► revenues they don't want people to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► for example Windows XP for five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► running they want you know upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► please upgrade you know so Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/890">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► kind of painted itself in this corner by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► not providing an upgrade to xp for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► long they had sort of regroup and do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► those big security patches to XP and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► then they put out Vista which was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► big hit so it wasn't until seven before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► Microsoft had a had a good answer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► why enterprises should upgrade but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/908">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► something that Microsoft also fears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► you can understand why because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/916">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► it's it's pinching off their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► revenue hose and so the point in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► article one the points in his article is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► that if Microsoft had focused on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► consumers instead of the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► regardless of whether it was the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► a big cost because even if no one took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► as I said I think their hand was strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► if no one else was going to take those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/935">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► customers someone else could take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► or wanted to take them it would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► hurt Microsoft because if they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► serve the customers the customers in be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► even less motivated to upgrade so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► was a good point longer upgrade cycles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► are actually worse too into Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/949">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► customers which is it you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► trying to make that point by saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► customers more weren't going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► somewhere else but even they did go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► someone else that would have been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► other scenario I described which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► Microsoft really needs to slim down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► before it can rise from the ashes as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► more consumer focused company long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► upgrade cycles are the worst of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► worlds because you have you have most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► the drawbacks of someone else taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► their customers but none of the benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► you're still on the hook you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/979">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► like trying to get those customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► you're still tied into the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► and trying to serve you just doing a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► job of it so you don't get the freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► of saying oh well someone else took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► those guys we can go off and focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► something else right and I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/989">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► Microsoft still had a good hand there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► you know they can't stay on Windows 95 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► or 98 or NT right they can't stay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► that forever right they were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► going to upgrade you never had that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► no one was going to take them yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► upgrade cycles would be longer but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► should just you know there you get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► eventually and Windows 7 you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► can have a big delay to shore up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► existing operating system then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► have a complete flop like like Vista but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► eventually you know people upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► Windows 7 so Microsoft's continuing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► prevented the big disruption that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► have sped this process along so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► didn't leave those customers behind they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► continued to serve them they did suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► through some lock upgrade cycles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► was really of their own doing no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► else was interested in oh so customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► no one else took them right but is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► the the meta point I want to get to here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► is that this workers in IT the trend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► away from 80 as gatekeepers and towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► so even today you have workers kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► want to use what they want to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► that that let's start with the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► where iPhone wasn't supported the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► enterprise you're supposed to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► blackberry but people like the iPhone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► you know especially you know rich top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► level executive to get that first iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1078">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► for six hundred bucks not and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► well these things in great I want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► this at work in the IT department now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► you got to use blackberry we are all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► contracts blah blah now like well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► getting the iPhone anyway I'll try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► figure it out of your in the network and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► at the exact is high enough they say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► don't care what our policy is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► care what you tell the other employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► do you're going to get my iPhone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► network which I like playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► iPhones and it's a fun little toy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► I'm in charge and you also see that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► Max is harder but but if an executive on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► a Mac laptop or iPads and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► right so regular computers like pcs used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► to have gatekeepers to used to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► bring your stack of punch cards and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► old enough to have done this but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► father is to bring your stack of punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► protector and the lab coat and you hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► him the cards and then he takes your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► cards and feeds them into a machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► printout of how your thing ran and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► you had a bug or whatever right then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► there was men to be like priests of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► computer world and you would go to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► with your offering and they controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► the computer filled the room with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► know false floors on it it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► there's not something that you had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► front of you and eventually a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► came to be on your desk now octi a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► corporate IT is still stuck in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► gatekeeper mode the computer is on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► desk but it's not your computer you IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► controls it they want to control whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► you're large install any software on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► there they are pushing updates to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► without you know you having any say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► it they're running virus scanners on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► your stuff they're they're upgrading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► your operating system when they say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► time to upgrade you know no there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► continuum between a guy with lab coat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► accepting punch cards and complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► anarchy right but IT is way over into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► the gatekeeper side of the spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► especially as compared to how we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► computing in our in our daily life so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► computers become more like appliances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► like a toaster you know the post PC era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► or even the Mac was suppose to be of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► second appliance it's not like a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► PC things I think will loosen up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► corporation's general they don't dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► for the most part what kinds of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► pens and paper you can use you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► go to the staples catalog and bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► to the office manager and say I need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► couple of black markers and a sparkly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► silver marker because I want to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► stuff on the whiteboard or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► they'll order this stuff for you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► the the office manager in most cases is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► not the gatekeeper of pens and papers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► know sorry you can't buy that paper we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► only buy this kind of paper and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► reason that's different from IT is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► because like whatever it's a pen so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► a piece of paper you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► going to need any support we all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► don't support that kind of pen in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► company you're going to take off the cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► and you're going to use it right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► more something is like an appliance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► something we assume that anybody can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► and you don't need support and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► there'll be this centralized corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► control of things now there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► still legal and financial implications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► like the same reason that corporations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► generally don't want you to buy your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► equipment and use it because they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► you know well we will supply we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► purchase and own the equipment and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► will be part of the company whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► well let you pick whatever you want so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► they'll buy the pens for you they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► want you to go out and spend your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► money on pens and then use them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► getting some lawsuits that will I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► all the pens this project so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► know the legal implications of this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► not a lawyer but in general they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► be the ones to buy the supplies but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► they're not going to dictate right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► all this is say is that regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► customers or their upgrade cycles got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► longer or whatever Microsoft in long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► term is going to need to change to focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► on making the users happy and not the IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► department happy because increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► the users are going to be the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► making decisions about what gets used as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► computers become more like appliances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► you know iPads are certainly way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► you don't need centralized control that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► you know the the app store is locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► down and you know this they can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► corporate app store that pushes their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► applications so that say I bet and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► like that but it's much less of a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► know I I have got a virus on my iPad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► accidentally clicked on a link and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► my iPad is really slow and you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► those things that don't happen on iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► do happen on PCs we're moving more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► inevitably this is the direction the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► trend is going Microsoft will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► change its focus it will have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► who it's making happy and if it weights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► someone else's can either lunch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► Apple for example is already so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► heavily focused or the past 10 years or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► whatever on making the user happy not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► making that tea department happy so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► could be the marketing oh this one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► like my girls can get the lunch eaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► because they're going to say oh we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► eventually you have to make the customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► happy and if you don't Apple will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► they're going to lose out not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► they didn't serve the IT customers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► because they did serve the ID customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► it's like the opposite reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► someone's going to take all their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► sales away they thought well if we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► if we don't do exactly what I tease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► we're going to lose that market you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► going to lose that market if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► exactly what I do says Keefe Selby had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► another point on here is complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► that I'm saying that everyone should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► like Apple I'll read a couple of short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► passages from his email to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► Microsoft and say they should be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like Apple's little short-sighted not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► very creative they meaning Microsoft has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► never been an idea company they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► been innovative they serve the corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► sector and are good at that would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► suggest that IBM Oracle should be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► like Apple and Apple is unique and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► that comparison one should look in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► nearly every company out there and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► they should be more like app this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► tendency they know because we like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► and we say like why why can't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► company that makes my tires be more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► Apple like in my car account even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► like Apple blah blah but it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► sort of fanboy ism and saying I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► therefore this company should be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► like Apple in the specific case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► Microsoft that trend and I tea away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► centralized control is that's an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► factor in the potential future success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► of Microsoft and that there's a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► that they should be more consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► focused not just bigger just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► apples more consumer focus but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► that's the way the wind is blowing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► so it's not an arbitrary Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► should be like Apple there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► specific case as for IBM and Oracle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► companies that you know Oracle is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► serving the enterprise individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► customers are not choosing to use Oracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► and have all their column names in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► caps with 32 character limits sir yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► the Oracle Oracle is a very enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► companies there's always something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► can learn from another successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► Oracle should be just like Apple just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► I wouldn't say Microsoft should be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► like Apple but the lessons of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► success should be taken and incorporated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► into the way you do businesses and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► closer your business is to Apple I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► say Microsoft's business is much closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► to apples than Oracle's is for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► the more lessons you should take from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► Apple I think that's it for the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► ails Microsoft follow up and say I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► that was a that was a very controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► show that divided divided the audience I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► don't know I got it did not really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► the feedback was pretty fair like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► the people who disagreed ii thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► miss points were mostly like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► the point about vaanga bread that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► point that I missed that was valid but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► don't think there was a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► negative feedback it was just kind of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► mostly what I saw was a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► saying here's what else is wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► Microsoft a lot of people had their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► uh you know John listed what he thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► was wrong with my croissant what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► did wrong I think they did this wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and I think that a lot of times they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► were right yeah you write all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► you listed they also did wrong at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► particular moment in time when I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► they could have done things differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► and and it was a long time ago and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► fairly recently so people did like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► vent about Microsoft and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► disliked about it now I have a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► I I know you probably have an order for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► your follow-up and you're probably you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► know there's an arc and a story but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► there was an email that we got that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► wanted to read to you this may even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► part of your follow-up why did you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► me the topic so I can tell you whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► I'm actually going to call this the TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► question Jay I don't remember this okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► so well before we do let's do our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► sponsor on smile' software I love these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1560">TS</a>]
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00:26:08 ◼ ► today we're talking about PDF pen though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1568">TS</a>]
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00:26:14 ◼ ► to use when you have to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► other than just view a PDF that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► think of it does somebody sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► something and you need to sign it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► lets you do that somebody sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► something and you need to sign it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► modify it or maybe you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► paperless and you want to OCR something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► or maybe you just got a fax that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► this is the the multi tool for PDFs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► today you can add signatures you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► modify the PDFs without having to print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► and scan and fax and all that garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► if you go the pro version you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► create cross-platform PDF forms and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► can do other cool things I could build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► table of contents for longer PDF so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► can merge you can do all this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► stuff so how do you do this you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1619">TS</a>]
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00:27:10 ◼ ► functional demo they're not the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► that oh well you can't do this you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1632">TS</a>]
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00:27:31 ◼ ► or you can just use the coupon code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1651">TS</a>]
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00:27:45 ◼ ► know I I don't know how old PDF pen is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► think it's a pretty old application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► because I remember just a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► probably years where I'd have a PDF and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► it would be like that type of thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► have to put a signature on or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► like that and I don't have a commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► version of Acrobat and preview couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► do this anything about this back then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► you do Google search for like Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► modified PDF you know you're just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► to figure in some apps that you just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► just wanna get something done like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► faxing some stupid thing that they sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► you as a PDF that you have to sign and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► print and put you don't want to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► real fax machine right so I would always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► come up with PDF pen and then I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► downloaded I don't know if they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► time-limited demo or feature limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► demo or I would just you know I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► coming back to PDF and every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► needed to do this and I always be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► just want to do is one thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► want to buy this application right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► just eventually use it like the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► time that happens to like look this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► obviously an application I need for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► work and I should just buy this thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► I would I would encourage people to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► look at it as if you encounter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► application in that context you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► keep saying oh I don't think I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► that's eventually you should buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► thing once the third or fourth time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► application saves your bacon you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► I should pay them money for it otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► the next time I wants application to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► Larry said oh sorry we can't sell pdsn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► anymore or or we can only sell to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► enterprise and it's $3,000 per copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► PDF yeah you this application has uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► and when you need it you will know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► need it and you should buy it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► hey God someone on Twitter says that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► middle name is John J land and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► short for anything yeah but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► middle name they screw around with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► well the point with names I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► that your parents can name you whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► the heck they want so whatever rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► there are historically for what Jo HN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► and Jo Ann is short for and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► that there is a historical president and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► tradition but all bets are off of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► people can do whatever that day yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► that's very well sad all right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► had some Tebow thing you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► about well it's it's just an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► topic and I feel like I saw more emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► than just this one uh and and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► there were people maybe even in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► room discussing this over the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► weeks this email is from Chris corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► and he asks why doesn't Apple buy TiVo I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► can imagine all kinds of great outcomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► from that what is holding them back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► acquisition I know that ah John Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► mentioned on the last talk show episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► number 70 I believe I he he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► about what the Apple TV could become and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► said if Apple wanted to create a DVR in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► other words if they were going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► television that had DVR functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► integrated into it he would say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► then they would just buy TiVo and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► not sure if Chris is referring to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► but he did direct this at you so it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► know it's it's something I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► other people ask and mention why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► an apple just buy TiVo and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► could kind of step in and own that space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► gonna run long today you know so hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► you're prepared for that well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► because we had no yeah you know we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► no show last week for a variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► reasons including the fact that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► no voice and now you know but that we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► owe it I think to listeners to go a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► alright we're only thirty minutes in no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► I know I'm just I'm just giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► prepared so on the TiVo thing well first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► as people in the chatroom are moaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► about yes we have discussed this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► and as far as Apple is concerned when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► Steve Jobs was at the helm he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► said in public we don't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► cautionary tale yeah but he also said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► and he also said nobody wants to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► you know I know Wow but like but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► more specifically just saying that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► deep he didn't say the DVR is a dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► thing to have like kind of like no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► wants to watch a video on a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► handheld right what he said was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► there's no way to make money doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► which is a different thing it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► not saying that customers wouldn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► this product it's saying that it sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► like what are you saying was that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► looked into to creating something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► this because we agreed that the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► like this has value to consumers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► there's just no there's no go to market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► strategy as he said because of the cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► companies and how the box is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► be subsidized and it just that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► different reasons why they didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► they can make a product like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► what he basically said was that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► was not interested in making a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► like that until he could figure out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► go-to-market strategy and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► enough has changed in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► television that Apple has a better way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► to make money than they did in 2008 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► whatever he said this all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► number one while Apple isn't by TiVo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► that Apple does not want to make a DVR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► Apple doesn't want to make a box it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► doesn't want to make the box that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► always want them to make which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► omnivorous box that it consumes all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► input provides unified basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► Google TV says it's supposed to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► if Apple made it it would actually work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► and be user-friendly and right yeah not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► just this horrible thing that loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► millions of dollars where the company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► like the first Google TV did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► but Apple just doesn't to make this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► reason number one why they don't bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► evil if that ever changes say they a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► politicized Evo mix which I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► will ever happen I think they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► leapfrog that whole thing and just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► out of that you know not be consuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► being consuming network television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► they're recording it in time shifting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► that's like a hack but I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► think they want to leapfrog dad to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► something else all right but if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► decide they did want to make a DVR the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► only reason they would have to buy TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► is for the customers and for the patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► because their software and hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► crap even though it's still the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► still think it's the best available out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► there Apple I think apples crew could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► interface for television that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► massively better job than TiVo does in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► terms of performance features ease of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► use everything is patents the TiVo might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► hold on stuff like that the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► experience making better faster good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► performing small I look at the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► the Apple TV box compared to the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► the TiVo box and you know the tebow has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► no expertise there the Apple wants the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► people there might be good people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► TiVo who have experience in this area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► and they would probably make good Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► employees but I think Apple I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► that actually I'm going to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► customers the patents and maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► employees because it is really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► get good employees with experience in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► technology although I think t-bo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► engineers probably have little or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► experience with apples technology stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► maybe there would be some good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► there you'll get them up to speed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► it's not like they would buy TiVo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► then put an Apple logo on to you was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► interfacing ship a product that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► what Apple does right you know it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► hardware products anyway with software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► like they'll buy logic and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► massage it and put out logic you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► mean but even in those cases they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► buying a product that I did logic look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► Apple like before Apple bought it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► supposed to know trying to I didn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► logic back down use Pro Tools but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► would say I would say no I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► that uh just based on what they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► when you know they created this strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► Pro app look they have their their pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► look for things that that they change so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► I'm gonna guess they probably didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► probably didn't but who knows I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► same thing with like shake and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► things they acquired from elsewhere at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► the software they're more inclined to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► slap a coat of paint on and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► version is just kind of like the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► version but maybe there's no windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► version and it looks kind of a plea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► for hardware and software combos like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► device I just don't see that happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► so so yeah so that's why I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► they're going to buy TiVo and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► really think there's any reason for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► to buy Tebow except for reasons that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► nothing to do with the quality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► TiVo product everything to do with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► stupid legal system and perhaps possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► to do with the difficulty of finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► talent on the west coast these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► because of competitors so my next topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► which I think you'll enjoy this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► way back maybe three shows ago on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► anak ko Almanac mmm or shows ago okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► Antonakos show he was talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► people vs. George Lucas yes which I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► saw I think I mentioned that show many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► many episodes ago that I was I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► see it and I couldn't I couldn't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► because it was only showing in in film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► festivals and it wasn't available online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► and you couldn't get into Netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► you couldn't buy a DVD it was just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► available well finally it is available I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► think I how did I see I think I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► on Netflix maybe disc only I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► if it's streaming it but I did watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► as I mentioned when we were discussing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► this this movie with some other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► that the title the people versus George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► Lucas if you tell somebody you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► see this documentary called the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► vs. George Lucas if you have to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► to them what that movies about the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► is not for them because the title should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► be self-explanatory and people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► going to like this movie the title will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► be self-explanatory if people hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► documentary with that title could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► about they probably shouldn't watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► so as Andy discussed that the movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► about people's experience with Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► increasingly at odds with the creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► decisions made by George Lucas and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► whole grudge match about the prequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► and stuff blah blah so Andy on his show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► I shouldn't have waited so long before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► discussing this but I can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► every detail of what he said but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► the points he was making is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► against the people who are complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► that George Lucas changed Star Wars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► any way I don't want to pin down exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► what he said or try to quote him or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► with my imitation of Andy not cause boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► because I really don't remember a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► more the more general the the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► the fanboy idea that the star war should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► not be changed at all and anything Lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► does is bad and he has no the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► extreme he has no right to change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► you know those kind of complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► specifically I think and II did bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► this up a lot of people quote the 1988 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► address of Congress by George Lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► where he was complaining about I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► know if it was a Turner is a ssin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► movies Ted Turner colorizing old movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► or was just in general protections or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► artist protections for their works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► against future modification so George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► Lucas gave his big speech in Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► and many people who don't like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► George Lucas did the Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► will quote this speech to show how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► hypocritical George Lucas is or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► not not a credible perhaps like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► what George Lucas says he used to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► but here's what he actually has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► later in his life obviously he's changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► old George Lucas wouldn't like new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► George Lucas that type of thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► believe and II kind of poo-pooed that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► well saying that it's it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► that there's no inconsistency that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► George Lucas was arguing for to Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► in 1998 was an artist's right to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► have his work modified by somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► but the Lucas is the creator of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► work and he did I remember this part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► did bring up people will say though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► Lucas didn't write or direct the Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► Strikes Back so how can you say it's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► but really he's the creator of Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► as Andy pointed out you know there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► time before Star Wars and then he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► it you know wouldn't exist without him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► artistic control over his work even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► he wasn't the one who actually sat in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► the director's chair for Empire who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► actually wrote every word of the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► or whatever and so that it there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► inconsistency with the speech that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► had he is the artist and he maintains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► artistic control and that's what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► arguing for he was arguing against other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► people modifying an artist's work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► altering that artistic vision but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► perfectly within the bounds what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► so after hearing all this most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► things that Andy said I agreed with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► main that the main thing I disagreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► with was that all these things therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► invalidate the anger that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► against what George Lucas has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► to Star Wars because I think he missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► the thing that I'm most upset ago maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► there are people who are upset about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► things he was talking about but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► thing that I'm upset about was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► addressed by handy and I'd like to dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► that now by quoting yes from the 1988 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► speech to George Lucas Congress I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► read a couple passages here this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► George Lucas in 1980 the destruction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► our film heritage which is the focus of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► concern today is only the tip of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► iceberg American law does not protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► our painters sculptors recording artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► authors or filmmakers from having their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► life work distorted in their reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► ruined so this is getting back to what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► was saying he he doesn't you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► artist can change his work but say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► artist produces something and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► else changes it but his name is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► attached to it he wouldn't want his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► reputation ruined by someone else making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► some crappy version of Star Wars but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► associated with George Lucas he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► creator of Star Wars right so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► that's that point I was getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► there later on a copyright is held in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► trust by its owner until it ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► reverts to the public domain American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► works of art belong to the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► public they are part of our cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► history so this is the point I've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► several times about Star Wars that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► made in the people versus George Lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► that a work of art belongs to the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► but then it eventually reverts to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► public but when he was he had a naive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► view of copyright well the idea the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► copyright would ever actually expire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► because copyright as the is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► Constitution some part of our maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► an amendment or maybe just copyright law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► copyright is for a limited time I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► what it is anyone in the chat room know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► with the term of copyright now is 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► years 97 I think it is looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► Wikipedia page which is always right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► to find out how many how many years it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► is let's see if the chat room can beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► 75 they're guessing dad's death plus 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► people yeah after the death of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► whatever uh the sunny boat Sonny Bono [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► copyright extension cover it is now life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► plus 90 Horatio B says in the net robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► Ernie right so in the copyright law of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► the United States it says for a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► time and there was this big case several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► years ago where maybe was lawrence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► lessig argued this but anyway he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► always associated with this fight where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► well I think would always do the Supreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► Court and they said it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► but every time the limit comes up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► game house basically right they extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► it so if they keep extending it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► really limited and these you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► almost argue it's not limited at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► yeah so Supreme Court a true to form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► being pigheaded literalist idiots many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► times they are said well they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► limited and there's a limit it's limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► you lose your case you know not seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► that like great with they found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► loophole all we got to do is extend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► by 10 years every time the limit comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► up on Mickey Mouse and it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► perpetual copyright even though the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► is technically limited we just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► changing a limit every time we hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► limit and why Mickey Mouse because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► know Mickey Mouse owned by Disney which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► is a big company and they have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► political campaigns and our political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► system is entirely corrupt and blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► that's for petrol copyright but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► theory the the spirit of the law if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► the letter is that the ownership is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► supposed to revert to the public alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► so here's another passage from George to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► Congress people who alter or destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► works of art and our cultural heritage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► for profit or as an exercise of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► are barbarians and if the laws of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► United States continue to condone this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► behavior history but surely classify us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► as a barbaric Society so he's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► all high and mighty on we just can't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► people be you know defacing an artist's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► work right now we start getting closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► to closer to the metal in Merlin man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► parlance of his misinterpretation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► my discussion of Copeland 2010 okay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► will soon be possible to create new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► original and scare quotes negative he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► means and they FL negative kids with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► whatever changes or alterations the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► copyright holder of the moment desires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► the copyright holder so far have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► been completely diligent and preserving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► the original negatives of films they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► control in order to create reconstruct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► old negatives many archivists have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► to go to Eastern Bloc countries where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► preserved so what is complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► here is that even though an artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► creates the work the artist may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► the copyright holder because the studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► owns it or whatever right and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► those copyright holders although within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► the letter of the law to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► change it because they are the copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► holds they're not the original artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► so they may alter a work to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► or whatever and not be concerned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► preserving the original work any saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► you know people reconstructing negatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► of old movies have had to go to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► countries where they just found like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► negative and a can somewhere in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► of some you know theater in Yugoslavia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► this is definitely you know unaltered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► preserve it Lucas again in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► negatives to become lost and and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► replaced in scare quotes again by new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► altered negatives this would be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► loss to our society our culture history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► must not be allowed to be rewritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► later on he says the public's interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► is ultimate ultimately dominant over all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► other interests so what he's saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► that regardless of whether the copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► holder feels it has the right to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2698">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► these alterations the public's interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► in the original version of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► dominant over all other interests and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► here's some summation of what he said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► Congress talking to the AP I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► concerned about our national heritage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► and I'm very concerned that the films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► that I watched when I was young and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► films that I watched throughout my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► are preserved so that my children can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► see them this everything I've read has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► gotten increasingly to the heart of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► objection to what George Lucas has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► to Star Wars and I think the the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► objection of the non fanboy right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► people it's this that if you create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► copyright holder and the artist you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► some responsibilities until the rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► of that thing turn over to the public to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► preserve that work as it existed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► does not mean that you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► derivative works you want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► special editions you want to recast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► entire movie with puppets you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► dub over it with with gangster rap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► whatever you want to do is fine but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► original thing that you made that stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► becoming yours and becomes the cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► almost as soon as it comes out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► becomes just a cultural phenomenon Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► Wars was a cultural phenomenon in 1978 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► Eunos comes out in 77 78 it's a cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► George Lucas has the right to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► million different versions of Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► changing everything about it making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► grito shirt first you know second third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► fourth whatever he wants to do but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► one that he released in 1977 culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► speaking that's no longer his he owns it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► and can make it make money from it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► derive work from it and do whatever he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► the main argument of in the People vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► George Lucas who don't like what Lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► is done is that do whatever you want we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► want the 1977 version the OVA version we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► we want I disagree with that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► description of anime but I don't again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► after that we want the the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► version it happened it was released and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► it's it's your responsibility as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► artist to your responsibilities to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► culture to preserve that which means do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► originals 1977 Star Wars do not claim as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► Lucas has at all the original negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► is gone we can't get that back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► justice special editions there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► history eraser button this is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► thing you'll hate Lucas for it yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► hate him that he made some crappy Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► Wars movies later the prequels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► crappy movies it was a shame right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► the main thing is like you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► to keep that old stuff that you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► that existed that happened and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► what we want to see and it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► preserved now someone could say well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► he's not going out there and destroying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► all the negatives right despite his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► claims that there's no copy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► original negatives he will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► remember some theaters would find like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► an old negative the original Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► and try to show it and Lucas doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► like that and would try to stop them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► from showing it that's that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► the this stuff that I'm getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► where people hate him right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► other responsibility I think is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► old movies like this like say movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► were shot in the 20s or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► are classics right and the artists are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► long dead and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► responsibility of the people who own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► those things to bring that content to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► preserve it in the same way like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► books be preserved in the library and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► put into like a you know a nitrogen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► whatever but just to preserve the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► you know it transcribed them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► another form it's it's the owners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► the artists and everyone involved Nets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► preserve that content in the best way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► possible and in the case of film that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► means at a certain point like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► negatives are going to go bad negatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► rest really long time depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► film stock and there was a bad batch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► film stock that the the process I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► used in maybe was the 70s was not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► so actually some of the films they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► worse off than films that were made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► the 20s or 30s right at some point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► have to scan that negative get it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► digital form preserve it that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► this is going a bit beyond the letter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► the law but I think culturally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► where the guy who made and owns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► control Star Wars to ensure that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► is now a pristine digital non decaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► version of the original 1977 Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► as it released is it your responsibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► to you know make sure that's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► something no you know you can sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► that or you can sell it for a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► responsibility to preserve it all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► someone in the chat room thinks I'm off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► responsibility solely to preserve it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► the copyright support shall out others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► to do it as well he's going farther than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► I have and saying that having him have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► complete control this movie is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► really fair and that it should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► someone else who has this concern should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► be able to preserve that content even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► though they're not the owners all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► and Aaron Pressman says library Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► is doing this right but the main thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► we're so pissed off about Lucas is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► he wants to everything he says and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► makes us think that he wants to pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► that that stuff never happened mmm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► no you can't show the original stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► of you if you want to that stuff doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► exist and all of his statements many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► which have been maybe people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► they're are bogus saying actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► original negative n'existe NIEM or which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► abdication of artistic and cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► responsibility to say yes I physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► damaged the only one actual original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► negative Star Wars and you can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► reconstruct it I think that's not true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► think it could be done but at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► point if we you know if we wait until 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► years after Lucas is dead maybe all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► negatives will be gone then and he will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► have succeeded in making it seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► those original Star Wars versions never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► existed this is the core complaint and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► think that core complaint is well voiced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► shouldn't be allowed to make special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► editions not that altering any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► movies in any ways sacrilege and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► original versions are part of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► and should be preserved and he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► doing that I don't know I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► Andy would disagree that but he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► address it but maybe he would agree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► say but that's not what I hear most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► people complain about most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► complaining that he made a version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3058">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► Greedo shoots first right mm-hmm I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► that's kind of true but like at the root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► people they're whining would be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► kind of like they'd get over it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► of like the defaults and I booked early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► talking about earlier in the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► right you don't like the stupid book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► thing as soon as you find the feature to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► turn it off you stop complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► it if nobody liked the special editions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► they'd say well I'll just buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► blu-ray version of the originals or I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► original or whatever it is that you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► complaining you're like fine it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► for me I just want to see the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► I saw I was when I was a kid other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► people like the other ones let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► decide whatever as long as you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► the originals or as long as we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► originals would would be there for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► someday like that they were had there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► was a good steward taking care of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► originals right the same way that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► would be upset if like the original Gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► with the Wind negatives gone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► only one was left was the one that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► CG added all right people would be upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► by that people assume that someone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► taking care of Gone with the Wind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► someone is making sure that our kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► will be able to see our grandchildren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► will be able to see Gone with the Wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► in the version that was originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► released into the guard 'less of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► many remakes or drew two versions exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► right and we just take that for granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► over Star Wars many people who highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► prized those versions of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► aren't sure that's happening and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► scared that actually the opposite is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► happening the George Lucas is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► everything is powered to make those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► words disappear despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► for example he released like here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► theatrical releases as a hidden extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► heavily compressed on the DVD version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► Star Wars which she did do that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► what we want we want it to be preserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► with the same love and attention that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► seems to be preserving like the prequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► for example you know as they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► originally released it just it seems it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► seems weird because when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► the way that most I probably shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► say that because I've never made a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► but you would think the way that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► people who are out there making movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► is that they're they're so focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► making the movie right now that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► not necessarily thinking well when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► becomes a huge cult phenomenon in in 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► 30 years from now we'll have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► sure that everything we're doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► preserved I mean I understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► you're saying understand what Andy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► saying I think that it seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► that somebody could do in this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► as a as a movie director producer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► whatever it is would be to say we felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► there were some things wrong here's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► updated version yeah you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► still get this older version we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► gonna we're not going to update it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► anymore it's the same thing that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► like this this app that that I have here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► if I don't want to pay for the upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► version the the manufacturer the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► makes these apps I won't name the amp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► he's nice enough to say well you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► still you paid for the old version you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► can have version three you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► version three up to the very last point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► release we're not going to be doing any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► updates to it anymore if there are bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► then then you've got upgrade version for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► that that will fix those bugs but we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► supported version three now for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► of years and you bought it you've used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► it you can continue to use it forever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► will not update it anymore we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► to be updating version four so come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► and download version four and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► what for you special upgrade price you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► know apps are kind of a weird example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► and that's actually a hole there shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► where the topics at because like so say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► someone wants to see you know mosaic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► original version of mosaic the ran on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► the Mac you can find a copy of mosaic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► the problem it you know you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► those binaries the main problem is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► all right so how do I run it alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► say you want to use the old version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► some app on your iPhone forever well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► you never upgrade your iPhone you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► that but eventually your iPhone is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► to break and the new versions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► eventually that that's not going to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► the new version the operating system we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► don't have finding a way to preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► pieces of software that may be equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► part of the culture like the version the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► Netscape or whatever or you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► first version the Mac operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► we haven't really got that figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► yet I'm sure it has eventually we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► you know VMware and stuff from the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► generations from now the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► there's currently no way no officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► Apple sanctioned way to run old versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► with operating system like the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► system version is kind of a crime and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► hadn't yet learned how to preserve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► stuff but for for audio-visual medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► the the media is the medium is old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► enough that we we have that kind of down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► we understand like to preserve a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► preserving the film stock yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► want to preserve or the images there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► we have ways of you know alright the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► negatives not going to ask whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► you're the transfer to negative but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► that's lossy event what we've learned is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► you have to make a digital scan of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► right same thing with audio recording so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► it was originally on a wax cylinder well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► that wax cylinders not gonna last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► together if you want to preserve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► you got to make it digital we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► audio in the video stuff kind of figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► out and yes not quite the same because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► it's not you don't get the the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► it's not the same frames per second you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► don't get them the shake of it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► through the shutter and yeah we do our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► best to preserve it I think we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► much stronger handle on how to preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► audio and video than we do on how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► preserve applications so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► think the counter example of like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► no one's taken away your laserdisc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► version you know so once you just watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► well my laserdisc player Brooke well a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► tough luck you know it's not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► responsibility to make it I'm saying yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► it is their responsibility to to somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► preserve that movie into the future that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► their responsibility doesn't end by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► saying well well you know you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► laserdisc you want to be a just tape our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► work is done it's not our responsibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► to to move that along now the another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► counter example is like so what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► make a blog post and then you shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► your blog or you make a blog post and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► then 10 minutes later and you change a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► word in it well you never preserve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► original version that's showing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► typos or before you made your correction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► and the responsibility to preserve in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► perpetuity the original version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► something without alteration scales with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► the cultural significance of that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► my blog post and I shut down my blog you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► know as an artistic work and I wrote I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► wrote a short story there and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► shut it down and no and had that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► you know and archive did or didn't catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► it is my responsibility for that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► responsibility of preserving starwars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► are gone with the wind' right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► an absolute rule that you apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► everything and then you know it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► that you're inconsistent hypocrite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► because you think it's okay if you'd all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► tur your blog post star wars is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► logged post you know we have to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► use your brain when evaluating things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► like this and and Star Wars is not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► like an edge case you know it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► obscure thing it's not some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► it's not something that we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► how to preserve well like applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► and a I mean I think applications are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► kind of up for grabs or games you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► getting with our applications are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► like to talk about the are video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► art stuff you know the Roger Ebert thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► I want again to in the show and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► gamers course say yes and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► people say no how about applications you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► brought them up our applications art do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► they need to be preserved as part of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► cultural heritage I think they do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► think we just don't know how we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► know how to do it we haven't figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► the best way to do that you know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► which ones would be I mean who's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► to judge that obviously you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► say Star Wars and Gone with the Wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► well it what about that little menu menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► bar thing that lets you toggle Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► I mean is does that need to be preserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► forever yeah I mean it gets it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► difficult I don't think Star Wars is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► a gray era and I would say for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► like netscape 1.0 or some early web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► browser is probably also not in a grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► area because the web browser how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► the furry fur data but yeah but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► getting with this gets weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► then you need to say well we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► also preserve I know the operator system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► what about hardware you're not using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► the way it was used yeah it's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► same concerns it's just much worse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► applications because we don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► think people even agree that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► worth preserving or that they're art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► right let alone once even if we came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► consensus on that then what do you do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► preserve them how do we don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► handle on that as you know who we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► hardware running forever it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► saying the only way to preserve Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► Wars is to preserve forever the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► projector it was it was shown on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► projector because it's not the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► it's not the same in the original web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► browsers you like it like it technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► having it on DVD or blu-ray that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► really the way that it was sorry you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► not really they're not using you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► original web browser in my birthday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► you're using that little like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► house the two buttons is different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► using it in in in a virtual machine on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► your you know so we all have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► with film I think we've kind of agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► that preserving the projector is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► that important especially since it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► projected in so many different ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► preserving the negative for that film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► like quality it some sort of film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► projector should be preserved so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► later you know people can say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► what film projectors are like just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► we kind of preserve or recreate butter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► turns to say this is all they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► make butter right but that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► reserved as a separate thing but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► we've agreed that if they if we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► pristine digital copy of Gone with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► Wind and we did it made our best effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► to get every ounce of information out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► or they all disintegrated they were okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► preservation of the original Gone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► KJ Healey in the chat room brings up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► point about how artists themselves tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► to not want to look back at their at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► their old work right they want if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► want to look forward and one of spices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► The DaVinci painted his masterpiece on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► wet wall you know that they're artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► artists themselves are not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► particularly inclined to say what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► done here must be preserved for the ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► they just want to move on and they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► to you know it's part of being an artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► you you don't want to dwell in your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► work you want to go and make new work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► Steve Jobs himself has said many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► that affect you just got to look forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► right so that's an argument for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► point that my friend always likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► bring up that ours themselves are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► always the best stewards of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► material and that gets back to my point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► about how the eventual and Lucas's point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► that according framing at all that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► public's interest is ultimately dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► over all other interests which argues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► for the public to be the steward of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► things that are culturally significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► and not the artist because the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► may be like I never want to look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► again I'm moving on as ours but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3665">TS</a>]
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01:01:07 ◼ ► that means the artist should not be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► sole one who has the right to preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► this thing because they will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3670">TS</a>]
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01:01:15 ◼ ► think Lucas has proved it as being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3675">TS</a>]
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01:01:20 ◼ ► culturally significant Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3680">TS</a>]
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01:01:27 ◼ ► have an antipathy towards the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► versions he only wants the new versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3689">TS</a>]
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01:04:50 ◼ ► that to regular radio or TV forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3890">TS</a>]
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01:05:00 ◼ ► helped I don't know what is in the have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► room says someone in the chat room says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► how would my argument apply to a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► who only performs live or a ballet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► questions so like and as we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► with applications and you know computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► systems and operating systems depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► on the age of the medium the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► tends to come to some sort of agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► on how to best preserve stuff so live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► performances but we do record live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► audio-video type of thing it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► need someone to record every live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► performance but most people want to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► to be preserved in those cases we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► decided usually that if you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► recording people would want the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► recording of that song troopers aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► the one that was released on the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► or whatever so we kind of decided that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► the canonical version but also in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► performances but you know most artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► do record their live performances at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► sound board because you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► the time you're doing it whether this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► gonna be culturally significant for jam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► bands like fish and stuff that'd be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► question for Marco I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► their fish is taking the approach that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► they want everything to be preserved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► they're just giving it away free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► everybody and this this gets back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► scooter computers argument he clarified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► in the chatroom that what he's saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► that copyright should not be able to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► used as a club to stop other people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► preserving 1977 Star Wars this goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► to how the copyright owner and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► artists are not the best stewards of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► materials if the culture decides that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► it's significant and are clamoring as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► they are with Star Wars to preserve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► original version they shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► stopped by by these laws from doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► and for a ballet troupe I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► that I don't know much about dance so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► maybe maybe a faith when she comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► and talk about this but I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► that i don't know i don't know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► preserve carve like how what is the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► is the the mechanism for deciding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► it's one light gets preserved mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► preserve the music and the story do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► also preserve the choreography i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► know enough about that to know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► the mechanism for culturally preserving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► dance is but but yeah this the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► step active is that in each medium in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► each case of each thing we have to agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► that it's worth preserving which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► applications and then agree on what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► think is the best or most acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► available way to preserve that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► may change over time and also not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► laws that are preventing us from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► any of these things so there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► barriers to the way i think the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► should be next topic I really think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4045">TS</a>]
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01:07:34 ◼ ► movement in the in the fan base are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4054">TS</a>]
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01:07:42 ◼ ► you know then he's stirring things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► and getting into fights with people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► don't I think that's a little bit silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► Andy is the least likely person ever to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4067">TS</a>]
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01:07:53 ◼ ► start a fight with somebody but we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► differing opinions and and I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► know if I if Andy's opinion differs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► me on Star Wars it just seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► points that I brought up he didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► about so maybe he agrees with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► don't think they they lie at the heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► of most people's complaints about Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► Wars but they lie at the heart of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► complaints about George Lucas and Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► Wars so next topic Siri ooh let me talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► to I talked about Siri a while ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► did all this hemming and hawing about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► was afraid that that as as well as Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► works people will think it's human level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► artificial intelligence and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► expectations will go running away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► the reality of Siri there's just no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► then unless Siri literally is a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► intelligent person who you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► married to for twenty years who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► every thought and whim you will you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► be disappointed with it if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► act that way and so there have been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► oriented bits titled let's stop with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► C rebating and it was talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► whole ginned up controversy where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► ask Siri to find an abortion clinic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► can't and that shows that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► pro-life right this is a weird example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► that combines politics hot-button issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► with another thing what it comes down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► is not entirely this but a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► it comes down to is that since people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► don't understand that is not a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► person living inside there or the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► implementation the the first conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► they come to when they see a reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► like that where you know it seems to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► be able to find abortion clinics but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► can't find other things and it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► know about abortion clinics who I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► find them that is clearly an indication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► of a political stance of the creators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► and not just a book whereas any software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► developer if they saw that would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► jump to the conclusion that this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► a a political representation and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► did find that that would be the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► the story would be that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► sure just looks like a you know a bug or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► something that falls out of the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► thing is programmed but in reality we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► found out that there was a command from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► on high and Apple that did not be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► to find these things because Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► controversial or whatever uh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► possible but it's not the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► people would jump to the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► conclusion is to go to the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► first and not assume it's software issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► that's not a specific case of like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► intelligent assistant it's getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► thing I think any piece of software if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► web browser accidentally didn't let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► go to Planned Parenthood website because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► of some unrelated bug people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► assume that the web browsers and web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► browsers never been presented as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► intelligent agent so this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► story I don't think is a vindication of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► my idea that there will be that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► will have unrealistic expectations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► Siri it's what it actually is an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► of how people just don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4258">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► software and it would have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► exactly the same if a new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► Google Chrome came out and did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► thing they would say you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► Google Chrome if it means that Google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► pro-life or whatever although the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► baffling thing is like Apple is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► hippie dippie or historically was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► left-leaning liberal friend of Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► Clinton Obama supporting like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► not you know there what among what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► would imagine to be the most left-wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► companies culturally and it it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► weird that people jump to the conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► that they are pro-life and like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► like the liberals will get offended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► right you know that that's even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► even if you don't understand anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► about uh software or our bugs or stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► like that wouldn't you say kind that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► kind of weird because I would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► would be the other way and it would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► know not be showing me how to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► Garth Brooks concert because no one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► Apple likes country music because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► they're all bunch of loony liberals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► right it's just it's just weird so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► was kind of a you know silly non-story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► flare-up thing that happened we did get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► it at what I think isn't an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► Seri backlash thing from gizmo toes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► did you already put that in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► notes yeah all these things are okay hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► so oh by the way we asked them we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► to tell people how to get to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► notes you get a five by five dot TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► slash hypercritical slash 45 or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► subscribe to the show with RSS feed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► will see notes and links and things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► John and sometimes I have collected or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► the course of the week and we also want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► to say thanks to help spot calm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► making the show notes possible but did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► that's how you do it people always say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► what are the show this is what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► this is how you can participate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► show you can follow along John does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► painstaking work to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► they're in the exact order that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► mentions them or that they are mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► on the show and it and John gets very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► angry when they're not and I correct the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► titles and try to make a nice format I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► don't just leave is the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► appears in the pilot again HTML pages is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► wildly bearings when I look at like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► talk-show links which apparently no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► cares enough about to to uh results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► always me adding them that's why and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► and while you don't care enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► them to change macGruber doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► care that they're all messed up but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► got pipe symbols and they got the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► name first and they got double hyphens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and just all sorts of horrible stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► sometimes I fix all right anyway so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► story was more just straight up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► aisle exactly what I was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► that ciri was presented as this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► magical thing but when I try to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► it's not as smart as Apple seems to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► it out to be and many people have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► see this is what Syracuse are warned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► about it's you know it's people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► understand that it's not real AI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► they have unrealistic expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► another mad well I have to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► overall I feared that the backlash would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► be much much worse than it's been one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► follow-ups that link to it is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► compared to the worst case that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► thought would happen so I I also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► that you can't really say that I'm was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► vindicated in my nay saying I it does at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► least validate the concept that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► talking about that this could happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► like with anything popular there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► always the backlash story there's the oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► wow story there's the release and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► start your timer because the backlash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► stories will come it remains to be seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► I think about the wait a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► out if you ask somebody who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► listen to the show and doesn't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► Apple mine or anything but happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► have an iPhone ask them a year from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► what do you think is Siri and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► it's kind of me but I can't really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► it to work the way I want or I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► disappointed or whatever I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► would be a more vindication of my dim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► stance on Siri that it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► going to be it's not going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► they show on the commercial ah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► people are not going to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► experience with it whether or not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► continue to find Siri useful they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► well it doesn't work like doesn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► commercial but still use it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► for feature X Y & Z I think serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► still success then and at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► it will have helped Apple sell a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► of iPhones because it looks really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► but this backlash article is straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► saying did you know they said it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► awesome but it's totally not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► it's not an intelligent little human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► being inside there and and it goes on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► complain about it being in beta and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► there was some follow-up articles saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► well it's got to be in beta because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► it's very data-driven and the more you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► people have the more people you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► talking to it the better they can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► presumably Apple is honing over time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► you really need to launch it in beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► because you can't get a big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► to really tune this feature until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► got people from all the world talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► into it I don't know how much I buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► I think that Apple has enough money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► do a pretty big internal beta test but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► I pretty the way we all know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► listen to this we know how Siri where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► the story I like to talk about when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► think of things like this is many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► ago I was calling some customer support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► thing or whatever and it was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► time I'd ever gotten to a point in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► phone tree where it said instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► saying press 1 for blob us two for Bob a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► star for an operator right it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► please say the name of the department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► you would like to talk to or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► like that and regularly I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► that works in regular paper but since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► this as many years ago this is the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► first time I ever heard this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► right I froze on the phone because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► brain was going they can't possibly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► are they gonna well it is a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► vocabulary but no they can't they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► going to try to figure out with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► accent like I'm trying to figure out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► implementation and my mouth is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► moving because my brain is trying trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► possible to do what this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► claiming that it can do with reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► like what's the ROI on that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► actually cheaper than to hire John so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► brain totally fuse you know puzzling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► how this implementation can work and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► know the timeout goes and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► that's how the nerd brain works yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► you know so it's a good thing you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► do that at the stoplight no yeah no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► mean only happens the first time and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► know in the event I'm ever what year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► this was but it was a long time I was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4618">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► was back it was back before you'd ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► heard of this like yeah maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► like in the late 80s early 90s where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► very first super limited vocabulary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► phone tree type things came out they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► like you know a 90% success rate or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► whatever which would be completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► unacceptable today but so so people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► us are looking at Siri and seeing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► understanding the underlying mechanisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► with our expectations set correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► regular people I don't know it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► to be a long time before you can run run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► an app like apples ads and have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► experience and maybe people just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► expect that because it is an ad and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► well obviously this is the best case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► scenario and people will be able to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► off lots of the stuff in that ad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► there'll be stumbles and sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► won't work and then you'll get end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► the dark corner where nothing you say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► getting the correct response from Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► because you're just into a realm or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► phrasing or something that in that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► natural language processing just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► figure out what you mean by and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► will be experience it was totally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► represented in the ad where it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► not working at all now you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► wasting your time and it's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► and it would have been faster for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► just tap your fingers but but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► said in the original show on Siri I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► think that even regular people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► eventually find the three or four things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► that are actually way way way easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► do with Siri and they will decide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► Siri is the reply to text message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► without using my hands or that without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► looking at the screen feature or they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► say Siri is 100% the set a timer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► egg feature or Siri is the reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► feature remind me to call someone when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► get home like whatever those things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► you can you know you decide that Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► works well for you and that's your Nisha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► like a Gruber seems to have decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► it's kind of like a dictation so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► have to type things out while I'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► go feature even though that's not texted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► like Siri no dictation is just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► know if they lump it under the branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► but it's a it's different than the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► to figure out what I'm saying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► interact with other applications and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► stuff for them so I think see really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► success is a feature but it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► be a long time before that Siri ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► becomes a reality next follow-up I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► we only got two more we may actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► maybe get through all them in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► huh well because then I have one for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► after that all right well maybe I'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► this one quickly and then what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► start yours right you might not care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► about mine that's true so this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► I hope so hard for me to tell where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► things originally come from with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► content republishing stuff now I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► it's like you know so this apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► was written by Ridley Scott published on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► The Huffington Post as entitled the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► way to see a film and it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► love letter to blu-ray that's really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► don't even really see I wrote this or as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► PR people wrote about it so he wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► so this is quoting for your article for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► this got says the the blu-ray is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► closest we've come to replicating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► Racal viewing experience I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► so he does start by saying like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► movie should be shown is in the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► replicating that experience to which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► would say that's true because when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► go to the movie theater you're projected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► to about 30 minutes of ads that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► don't want to see before they will let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► you watch the movie which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► similar to blu-ray when you stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► disc in you have unskipable previews you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► fight with the stupid buttons to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► out well let me do pop-up menu will let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► me do frame advanced button what will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► get me to the movie at least the blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► you've got a fighting chance to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► play this game with the device to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► you know loading preview from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► internet no no no don't load the preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► from the internet you just want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► the movie and the movie theater you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► got no choice you just got to sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► I guess in the movie theater does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► the advantage that you can just show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► later if you know they're going to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► a half an hour of ads just show up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► sit down afterwards so you're at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► you can time manage there whereas I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► blue where you get to fight with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► thing and he goes on to say it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► made sense to me why those preoccupied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► with how movies are delivers for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► have written off physical media so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► doesn't understand what the whole big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► deal is with digital distribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► probably because he's old or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► because he's maybe he's just lying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► and and following the line for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► blu-ray industry which many people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► said the cynical thing is like hey buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► more blu-rays brought to you by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► blu-ray Alliance right it shocking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► he would have this opinion but it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► just be because you know like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► people just don't like digital delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► they want a physical thing in their hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► because they're old that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► used to technology will need to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► many more as this quoting frame again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► many more huge leaps before one can ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► view films the level of picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► sound quality many film lovers demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► without having to slide this can do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► player especially with the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► requirements of today's 3d movies this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► is another area where I agree with him i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► by 2 was disappointed when I've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► to others in past shows when music went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► from like you know audio cassette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► 8-track audio cassette LP CD it was with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► the exception of the hard 16 kilohertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► cut out on that so the 16 16 tour it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► 16-bit whatever the the resolution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► CDs are there are many people who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► that the limits imposed were even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► they were the theoretical close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► theoretical limits of human hearing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► or actually didn't exceed them at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► and that vinyl still had a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► dynamic range than CDs and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► the whole production thing where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► heavily compress the music so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► you're losing the highs and lows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► that's kind of a technique more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► technical issue but many people thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► that CDs were kind of did a stutter step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► on the road to improved fidelity that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► was clear that you know wax cylinder is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► not as good as vinyl and it was clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► that an audio cassette was not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► as CD because of the hiss and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► stretch and all these other things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► but then we took a sharp turn an in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► arguable sharp turn to less than CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► distribution because the market decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► that the convenience of mp3s it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► important than having something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► better than CD quality so we had super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► audio CD and DVD audio but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► really go anywhere because they was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► of the dominant factors right and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► people like me who are sticklers about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► quality we were disappointed by that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► didn't want to listen to 128 kilobits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► files we wanted CD quality that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► continued to buy CDs and still continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► to buy CDs because it's the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► quality version of that song that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► get and the more I like a song the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► inclined I am to say I want the CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► version even the 256 kilobits you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► even though I can never actually hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► the difference just philosophically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► feel like I want the CD quality 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► because why pay was usually ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► being a similar price for an album for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► lower quality version and to the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► of Apple and all the other people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► have increased the quality and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► versions an Apple store anymore or now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► it's a good question I don't know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► there are losses things are infinite or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► dystrophy hands I think albums on CD but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► he also distributes them digitally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► you both you can pick what you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► can download an AAC you can download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► Aflac you can download apple lossless so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► I have Jonathan Colton's latest CD and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► also have apple lossless digital copies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► of it this you know true to form not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► being someone who is a record executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► from the Stone Age he's doing it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► else eventually I hope everybody gets on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► that bandwagon and realize this we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► the best possible version we can get but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► we took a detour there and so video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► the same way watching a movie in a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► but then VHS tapes were nowhere close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► it and DVD is like it's getting kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► close it's get looking pretty good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► then it's like okay now download it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► iTunes and you get all these compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► artifacts because we can't put like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► super HD version you know like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► watch it in 1080i broadcast on HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► that's higher quality due to you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► less efficient compression algorithm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► then you get if you download the iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► version because they got to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► iTunes version is kind of small and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► might be shown an iPad or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► the best version of television shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► can get is still often on television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► we took you turn there or a detour there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► into saying once again the convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► of being able to download them and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► whatever is more important than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► absolute best quality and so blu-rays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► have the absolute best quality you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► buy for seeing a movie in your home but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► people say that physical media is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► because they say well that's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► all but the convenience of being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► stream it is much more important the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► stupid physical discs and it's made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► worse by the things that any thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► person hates about blu-ray is that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► only is blu-ray and annoying you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► put the disc in and do all that physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► stuff but it's just it's a customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► hostile experience but all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► that you don't care about getting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► way of you watching your damn movie or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► when you stream it similarly starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► right maybe I'd rather watch a loading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► progress bar because the streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► server can't load me then have to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► there and actively fight with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► blu-ray player to try to get and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► know it's loading Java to load all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► applications the little progress but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► worst thing I think on these things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► that the menu screens which everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► so proud of and people thought were also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► wizzy on DVDs and stuff the worst thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► is is that the menu screens often have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► spoilers for the movies by showing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► the background yeah turn the movie if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► you haven't seen the movie before like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► in the background it's got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► Vader going Luke I am your father yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► you'd be pissed yeah I just wanna close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► your eyes and say I can't look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► menu screen you gotta gotta click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► through it real fast I'll tell you I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► tell you tempted to this day still I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► never owned or even used a blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► player I have there even a used one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► they're actually worse than DVDs because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► DVDs all did all the same thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► with blu-ray maybe they would learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► lesson if like let's not put into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► spec a requirement that you honor thee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► I'm sorry you can't skip this bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► you know if you want the D or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► official DVD player stamp of approval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► from the stupid short consortium that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► controls the rights of stuff you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► honor this this bit that says you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► you know this horribly consumer hostel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► bit says you can't skip this preview and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► so the player manufacturers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► they're a bunch of idiots they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► well whatever we want to sell players we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► want to have the logo they honor it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► only people don't honor it or like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► Asian manufacturers that are outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► law in other words the smart ones that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► just yeah the blu-ray format is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► and so here's really Scott again blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► for the foreseeable future remains the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► finest technology to preserve the impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► the enjoyment of watching movies at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► and someone I was complaining about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► article on Twitter and someone said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► what's here what's wrong with blu-ray I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► said everything except for the fidelity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► of the content because I'd continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► buy blu-rays I have Netflix subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► with the blu-ray option because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► the best possible version of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► movies that you can see at home and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► is the only good thing about blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► that it has the best possible version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► these things to do 1080p very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► quality audio and video better than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► can get over your television because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► don't know if any do any television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► services broadcast 1080p I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► best you get 1080i I'm not sure at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► in this country you know the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► amount of compression the blu-rays hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► lob everything else about blue ice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► just horrible so it when I read his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► article I said on Twitter this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► apparently Ridley Scott has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► actually tried to watch a blu-ray movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and many people said well he probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► has his assistant start 20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► beforehand and cue it up in his living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► room and it's flat right even like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► during the playing of the movie say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► pause it they have so every part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► blu-ray spec is that anyone who write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► makes a blu-ray disc can do custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► appearance for the progress bar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► shows how far you along you're on movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► so when you hit pause it brings up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► little Tibo like progress bar and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► in the Lord of the Rings the progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► where I'll be like all brown and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► I've stoned on it and like mine's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► you know they all draw their own stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► custom progress bars to be within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► theme of the movie like that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► waste of everybody's time no one wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► to see that it's stupid it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► everyone's got to spend time doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► they do all sorts of weird wizzy menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► animations and stuff like this that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► not what we want that someone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► that's like that's like a restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► websites where you show to the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► and say I want it to be this cool thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► where you fly into it and I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► everything and and you show it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► boss not like wow that's awesome make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► more things fly and that's what the boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► wants Missy is an idiot that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► customers want customers don't care what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► your progress bar looks like customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► don't care that your progress bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► matches the theme of your movie if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► progress bar takes a longer time to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► up or is jumpy or crashes their blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► player because some weird Java exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► because it's not yeah it's it's missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► you know that they give another Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► example Apple does not provide custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► items well progress bars for iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► content but if they listen to content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► grades disabled it would be great if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► when we distribute spider-man and iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► if Apple TV would show cool spider webby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► progress bar that would be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► executives would love that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► customers want we're not wasting our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► time on that stuff that's my Ridley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► Scott blu-ray rant what did what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► your topic to you I don't even want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► bring it I'll save it for next week just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► now dude I don't side of it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► interesting than what I have here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► have more I do but I mean we can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► what what tell me what your thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► I know I know I want to throw off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► game odd but there is a new recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► John Lassiter was interviewed on Charlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► Rose and he talked about Pixar a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► bit but he talked about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► upcoming movies he talked about brave he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► talked about the the the new dinosaur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► movie but then he talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► other movie that is it's I think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► know what they're calling it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► female sugar for you before you move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► the new dinosaur movie do you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► um a new dinosaur movie coming out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► Pixar yeah all right mr. Mehra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► monsters University now I will seek out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► this Charlie Rose interview all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► Anna so anyway this this I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► calling the movie mind or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► that's what it's the cook what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► calling it right now but in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► you have a a female protagonist because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► apparently the whole movie takes place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► inside her mind with her emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► thoughts as a character characters so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► this is also a Pixar movie yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► talking about Pixar alright you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► John Lasseter could be talking about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► sorts of things I'll take some Carter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► Mars is not a Pixar movie but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► imagine John Lasseter talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► no this is his stuff alright alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► uh so this movie minded it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► have these characters that are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► emotions and thoughts of the of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► character but the main character is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► girl brave for those who don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► so I wanted to see what you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► about these I figured you were up you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► on top of this no the upcoming Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► thing that I knew about is brave I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► tend not to be a the kind of person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► seeks out all possible news of upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► projects like just want to know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► what's coming out I used to be like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► last time I was like that was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► example about Star Wars prequels and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► see how that turned out so maybe that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► why I'm not so into but I basically want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► to be spoiler free but if this news this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► Pixar stuff tends to service and a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► of blog posts I'll eventually see it uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► well I have I have the article with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► article is over on what I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► assumed would have been your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► your favorite website with the Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► times.com and I also have the Charlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► Rose with the interview which took place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► a week ago today on Friday December 2nd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► I have both of those in the in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► notes I will check it out but so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► Pixar front people keep asking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► cars - I still have not seen it I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► many people continue to say the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► that I tried to counteract the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► time I talked about cars - which was hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► it's a flop that's what you wanted no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► I wanted a flop that flopped because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► was too ambitious I have not heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5578">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► anybody say that cars to was not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► movie because it was too ambitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► they say the opposite that it was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► good movie because it was too lazy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► whatever I still haven't seen it myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► so I don't have a particular opinion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► it yet I will eventually see it is it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► streaming it you would know this your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► I I don't know if it's as your son seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► cars - yeah yeah we we bought it how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► how you alright so your I for my so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► you have to you bought it alright you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► not even screaming I thought you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► have known if it was available but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► I'll eventually I don't like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► like it have to be honest my kids have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► seen it in the theater with like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► know school and camp and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► so and they haven't been begging me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► buy copy of cars too but in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► they're not like my son used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► heavily into cars and I guess he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► outgrew it and so now it's not begging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► me to but to get cars to and I just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► curious do you pronounce it gigawatts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► gigawatts if you're talking about back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► to the future you have to say gigawatts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► I know I know but I'm asking you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► the actual word is Giga huh oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► impulse again yeah I go gig I go Giga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► because it's gigs on computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► that's what I go with anyway you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► going it's a debate it's gigabyte versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► gibibyte the base 2 versus base 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► business or say an interesting Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► entry I will add to our show notes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► well because it says the initial G of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► Giga can be pronounced a hard G like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► giggle or a soft G as in giant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► the latter pronunciation was formalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► with the United States and 1960s 1980s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► with the issue by the US National Bureau [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► of Standards of pronunciation guides for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► the metric prefixes a prominent example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► is found and the pronunciation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► gigawatts in the 1985 movie Back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► I just as a sign as a scientist I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► to you have an opportunity to weigh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► on this controversy that's what English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► tends to do is well just put the other / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► NCA ssin is as 2nd or 3rd pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► and just be done with it so come so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► as for mind and brave so brave brave I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► since I am I'm into these spoiler free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► phase of my life I didn't read what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► was all I did watch the trailer but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► didn't read what it was all about I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► watch it and be hopeful that it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► protagonist not because I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► has to be an equal number of each but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► since I hope that it signals a change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► kind of the rut that Pixar had gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► into with the the the style of movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► and I am what it reminds me of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► another good non Pixar computer animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► movie which is How to Train Your Dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► which had a similar kind of I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► was a similar time Viking setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► instead of Scottish all the times but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► think that they remind me of each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► in terms of the setting and I have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► memories of How to Train Your Dragon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► I hope that the Pixar movie will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► speed at the mind thing it sounds that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► sounds pretty ambitious and high-concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► the fact that as a female protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► doesn't really mix in there it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► whole idea that it's gonna be me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► seems like the kind of ambitious movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► that you want them to make right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► it's is definitely different than all do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► is not like you know is it even gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► a family film or kids gonna understand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► you know a manifestation of emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► inside someone's head or they can yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► guess sure they can I don't know so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► think that does sound interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► I'm looking forward to but I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► the Pixar alumni movies so we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► Impossible and Mission Impossible is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► franchise has been very uneven but Brad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► Bird I really really love and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► imagine him ever doing anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► not great so I am looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► Mission Impossible and seeing seeing uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► what what I hope it's kind of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► did the whole thing with the Bond movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► and what a lot of people say and I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► with is the best Bond movies that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► movies that are that get have the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► of what I want from Bond in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► have been the Bourne movies a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► people don't like the Bourne movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► think that they don't have what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► love they want movies they want the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► fun and schlock and women from the Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► movies but I always like competent bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► you know a Dalton that type of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► the Bourne movies are the kind of spy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► movies that I liked and yet some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► those real um uneven too but in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► that's what I like out of spy movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► I'm hoping that Mission Impossible will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► be another example of the stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► like a tab on movies done better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► the recent Bond movies all I have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► the recent Bond movie so maybe they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► about very well if that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► recent one but I do like Daniel Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► becoming a spawn and didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► tail end of Pierce Brosnan right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► know I read I read though that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► going to be doing some kind of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► ORN related movies but that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► going to be about Jason Bourne I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► so much into the franchise I never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► the books I just like the kind of gritty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► more realistic spy type movie where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► there'll be a fight in the Bourne movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► where it's just two people and a hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5878">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► hand combat and you feel like it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► me feel about what it more like what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► would be like to fear for your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► and the only way you're going to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► of this alive is to kill somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► and you know nobody has guns and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► just have your hands and it's just much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► more tense than shooting a bazooka at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► somebody or throwing some trick car you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► know that that's I like that grittiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► and that's why I like the best parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► franchise they're going to make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► movies in that universe if they're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► they're also is kind of gritty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► realistic and take themselves seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► is the more movies I'm up for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► and the other one that I'm looking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► for is John Carter of Mars which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► Andrew Stanton who did wall-e am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► getting this right chatroom I'll be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► embarrassed if I've got the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► Pixar alumni but it's a live action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► movie featuring Tim Riggins from Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► Night Lights which I also watched and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► don't know how this is going to turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► like the both cases it's someone who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► came to know through their animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► movies moving to live-action and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► that is like it's kind of disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► to me and then it's like - I guess even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► to those people it may be they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► wanted to do live-action don't you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► the feeling it's like well I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► animated movies but I always wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► live-action movie right like this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► it's the higher prestige thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► could just maybe be me projecting but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► do see that a lot from especially from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► the older generation like my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► will take animated movies seriously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► certainly take them very seriously and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► don't think there's any need to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► live-action to get more prestige or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► be more respected but the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► that animated movies are in a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► category in the Oscars which sucks it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► but that's the reality and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► subconsciously you think I'm not a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► director until I do a lot of action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► movie with Tom Cruise or whatever so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► looking forward to how those are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► to turn out and how those people make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► the transitions mostly because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► both people are so incredibly talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► and they're both coming out of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► environment where the artists in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► story have been so dominant and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► movies I'm assuming are going to be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► more constrained because neither one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► those people is Steven Spielberg or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► Kubrick or someone who gets to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► their own instead you know I get to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► exactly what I want they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► have to work within the system a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► that doesn't value the the artist as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► much as where they came from will they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► still be able to make a great movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► linkbait article on CNN that said TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► isn't broken so I fix it but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► going to go into that one because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► will just end up being a rehash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► what's wrong with TV the fact of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► article exists I find Phegley humorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► but if you want to read the straw man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► that people will say does not exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► someone wrote that article an old person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► saying TV is fine we don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► so I'll leave it in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► people come look at himself as the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► time I've already do a good voice a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► voice all my voices are good come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► well your regular voice is good but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► was the first time I heard you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► character voice I have soft so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► character horses let's hear him they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► sound the same what was that all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► I have to be spontaneous on stuff month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► you know creativity is not a faucet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► gotta be natural sure too much pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► right all right well sounds like wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► your new people their money's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► today oh yeah so we're sorry we missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► you last week yeah every yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► literally could not talk this isn't now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► frequent illnesses that take away my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► voice suddenly are more significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► right bigger than you get baby your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► voice you're a voice actor now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► yeah my voice is my passport you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► very funny we'll get email about that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► you can follow John siracusa on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► at Syracuse si are a Cu si there is no Z [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► in that and I'm Dan Benjamin on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► and again if you want to follow along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► with our shows you can just go to 5x5 TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► slash hypercritical picked the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOLqgg/6124">TS</a>]
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