00:00:04 ◼ ► weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► what is wrong in the world of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/6">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► nothing is so perfect that it can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► complained about by my co-host John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/12">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► united pixel workers calm mailchimp.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► and reinvigorate reinvigorate by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► is providing our bandwidth for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► episode simple affordable heat maps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/31">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► web stats check them out at reinvigorate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► net use coupon code 5x5 and you had 10% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► off life of your order how you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/39">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► Thanksgiving 2011 it's November 25th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► special days going for a run four people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► here in the united states america they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► abreast are you are you resting yeah i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► not going to work well that's good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/61">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► usually what I don't know people know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► frequently taking you know your lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► break here you're away from work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► you're here to record and that's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► that's your mo that's right run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► middle of a workday crazy would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/85">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► anything special no just the usual what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► is the usual stuffing mashed potatoes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/96">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► sweet potatoes pies you know whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► I didn't host it myself this year Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/104">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► where'd you go kind of just went to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► friend's house it's kind of a relief not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/110">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► downside is that you don't have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► leftovers also you're you you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► nothing to eat today nothing special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/119">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► other than I guess I got some month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► is like you know that the shared here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► some leftovers here to take home kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► leftovers but it's not the same as when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► you make it yourself and you have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► the leftovers are the majority of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► what did you guys do uh we we had out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/133">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► we had one guest my brother-in-law was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► guest and of course we've got the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► two kids one of whom is not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► eating solid food because she's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► tiny baby but they was still quite you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► know quite equating quite an ordeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/150">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► trying to you know because you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► you've got a kid you get a guest you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► got lots of different items to prepare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► it was a production it's enough you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/159">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► once a year or doing that but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► kind of got to do it again at Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/168">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► right yeah not as bad as the turkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► though the turkeys always a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► Christmas dinner like you could do a ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► I guess yeah much easier no to cook the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► turkey what do you do with a hand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► does that work usually you buy the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► basically heating it up nothing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► do that with a turkey no come on now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► go to Whole Foods you get there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► you know free-range pasture turkey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► that's all or anything it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► cooked well it's it's what they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► pre-roasted so it's not like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► like you're getting it in a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► like a heated thing like a take at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► you know a drive-thru or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► still have to heat it up and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► good oh it's very good big thumbs down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► on that take my word for a big huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► thumbs up in fact the thumb that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► doing the thumbs up is so supreme that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► it just destroyed your entire thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► that's how that's how much of a thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► up that I'm giving this you go to Whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► pre-roasted turkeys it will be the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► turkey you've ever had how do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► about tofurkey I don't even get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► all right and keep in mind keep in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► that was Leo I was of no it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► because it's made from tofu which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► made from soy which is not paleo that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► not paleo no soy is the antithesis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► paleo maybe second to gluten and sugar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► um but no and keep in mind I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► vegetarian for many years and I would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► still never ate a Tofurky alright me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► neither but alright just trying to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► some boundaries on your mm-hmm food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► so you're ready to start I thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► had well you know start start yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► well I'm definitely ready then all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► started and in fact we had not started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► then I would definitely say Murray this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► it's not like we start and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/281">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► started and we really start the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► gets better as that show goes on and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► need the problem is you get a warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► Merlin up he ki he starts cold and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► thinks he's doing you know he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► compare that to 20 minutes later he's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► fire you start out and you're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► much level-headed the whole way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► or whatever the equivalent of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/299">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► then we have two small items that follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► up the best and worst kind of follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► what is the best numbers kind of follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/309">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► it was the best of follow ups it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/310">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► it's pronunciation follow up oh it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► the worst probably it's always the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► if you don't care about these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► it's also the best okay all right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► don't even know why this is in my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/324">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► here but it is so I assume I said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► name of a burner VI ng e the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/327">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► fiction author that I say that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► show at any point hmm it seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► only reason I can imagine it would be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► my notes is that I settled on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► well anyway it's in my notes so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► going to go to so that science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► author girl in a fan of his last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► spelled VI ng E is apparently pronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► vinji and not Vinge Blanche said in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/352">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► head through my entire life and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► times out loud VI ng is VIN G I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► that like secondhand from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► have talked to the man himself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► millions all the people who are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► convinced that's the way you say his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► name because they probably heard him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► talk or seen a pronunciation guide or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► read it on Wikipedia but ever vinji that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► kind of blew my mind because it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► mispronouncing but apparently I was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► the next one that I know I did mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► on this show a couple of times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► someone I felt compelled to write in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► after hearing it on multiple shows marry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► originally a PlayStation 2 video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and now remastered for the PlayStation 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► the name of the game is spelled ICO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► and I've always been pronouncing that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► ICO I don't know why I've chosen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► pronounce it that way but that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► I've been saying it apparently that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/410">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► wrong well this is from Alex montine I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► sorry Alex if I'm mispronouncing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► name mu n tean and he didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► clarify if he lives in Japan speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► Japanese or just learned it or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/424">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► Japanese game is two characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► first character is pronounced like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► like the letter e like E and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► character is pronounced ko so it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► be eco not Aiko and what he says about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/438">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► it is uh in Japanese it's a made-up word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► as far as he knows it says it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► have any meaning that's why it's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► in katakana which is the sole very used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► for most foreign names or loan words and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► Japanese this I think is a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► phonetic alphabets but katakana is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► of them and there's one pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/456">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► for each symbol no matter what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► context so it's not like English where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► the same letters can be pronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► twenty different ways depending on where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► they are completely silent or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► it's so it's very clear in Japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► these doing ours it's eco instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► Eiko now I still am unsure what the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/468">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► manufacturer Sony or whatever intends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► for the American pronunciation of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► game today clearly this is what the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► should be called in Japanese but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► are many cases where words in English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► eventually have different pronunciations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► in the words and other languages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► even for products they they will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► well you know even though this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► you pronounce it if you're pronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► your name correctly in French or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► Japanese or whatever in English the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► ah but it's really difficult to find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► authoritative source it like who'd you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► ask would you ask the game developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► well they're all Japanese they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► really care how the game is pronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/504">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► in their country would you ask Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► itself maybe they have an official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► pronunciation I don't know uh so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► I I will assume that Eco is the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► pronunciation I'm not sure I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► able to stop myself from saying Aiko ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► I'll have to help to sleep on that for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► while and decide we're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/521">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► pronunciation topics yeah I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► looked through them like this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► really have I think these thieves AUB's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► bio life discussion expunged a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/536">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► fault I think maybe I have a few other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► items that are related that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► really follow up but they're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► reader mail or reader questions that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► could use to spawn other topics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► that's not gonna be today today do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► remember what our topic is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► today can you have any guesses hmm nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/553">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► from a long time ago Microsoft again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/559">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► yeah I'll talk about what else Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► those how did we get off of that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► the bio came a bio cannon I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► was two episodes honey before that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► were off track on something anyway we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► finally wrapping around to it my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► from a month ago are still here uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► interestingly when I was gathering stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► up for it I was reading an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► yesterday there was a article that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► published on the 19th that is a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► to sort of enter in on this topic an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► article didn't exist when I originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► made my notes but I just add to them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► this is an article in Forbes magazine by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► Steve Denning and it's an article about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► why companies die and it yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► quote it's quoting from Peggy Noonan who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► I don't know but uh and then she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► quoting from the jobs bio and then Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► Denning the author of this article is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► talking about both of those things and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► assume also promoting his book which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► called radical management which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► missioning ties into all this so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► quote from jobs this is from the bio I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► know I know I said I'm a Microsoft we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► get into the jobs bio but trust me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► well as we'll go somewhere this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► quote from jobs from the bio it says how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► companies die or how they decline or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► whatever the company does a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► innovates and becomes a monopoly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► close to it in some field and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► quality of the product becomes less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► important the company starts valuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► great salesmen because they're the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► who can move the needle on revenues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/652">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► move the needle is CEO speak for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/653">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► know you say you've got a monopoly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► your field and what companies and wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► street want to see is you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/663">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► five percent of the customers it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► more difficult to have the next quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► be like double this quarter or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► percent of audience moving the needle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► like how can you how can you show an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► improvement in our financial results how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► can you show that our company is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► better than it did last quarter once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► you've saturated the market the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► can get those last percent is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► is the the company starts hinging on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► sales people because then you need like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► salesmen to sell those last percentages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► you really just make sure you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► reselling and re upping those contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► for whatever it is that your company has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/695">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► article it's not just the salesmen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► also the accountants in the money men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► who who searched the firm high and low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► to find new and ingenious ways to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► costs or even eliminate paying taxes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► activities of these people further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► engineers and designers and also crimps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► the firm's ability to add value to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► customers but because the accountants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► appear to be adding to the firm's short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► term profitability as a class they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► also celebrated and well rewarded even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► as their activities systematically kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► the firm's future so this is same the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► money men like how can how can we show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► selling everybody we can possibly sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► to let CEO in cut costs let's say we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► cut corners on our manufacturing let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► see how we can find a way you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► tax shelters for our income and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► people who do this end up being rewarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► if it's like oh you know the salesman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/742">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► the guys who are you know increasing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► revenues each quarter and these money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► guys and the accountants are finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/749">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► ways to increase our profits by lowering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► our cost right so becomes like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► weird numbers game uh and Denning calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► this playing defense instead of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► offense um and because he's saying any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► article it's easier to milk the cash cow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► than to add new value so you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► well why don't you know so say you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► strategy then to do all this stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► you know uh find get the sales people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► really cranking to make sure you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► lose any of the ground you have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► renew those contracts and try to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► little bit more money out of each person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► each contract and have the accountants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► because that'll increase your profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► margins just little by little and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/784">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► reward those people for doing it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► that's defense it saying you know oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► got this we've got this thing we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► a good thing going here we've got it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/789">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► near-monopoly in this market we just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► to hold on to it that's playing defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► instead of playing offense which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► alright that's great we did this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► we're dominant and whatever what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► gonna do next and that's much harder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► or scary I've talked about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► as the most important lesson of Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► Jobs that you know he showed the large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► companies don't have to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► don't have to play defense don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► be beholding to shareholders in Wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► Street and just do the the defensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► things and at the very end of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/815">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► they were talking about why it's easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► to it's more difficult to add value than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► to have cost another reason he lists is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► that these executives have found ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► reward themselves lavishly as Upton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► Sinclair noted it's difficult to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► man to understand something when his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► salary depends on his not understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► it so this is just the worst of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► worst where the company starts playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► defense the people who get rewarded our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► salespeople and accountants and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► rewards they reap instead of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► folded back into the company because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► wouldn't you know what if the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► need money for we already know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► doing we have a monopoly in this market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► or whatever we don't need any money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► R&D or to make new products or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► let's just reward ourselves big bonuses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► pay off the salespeople you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► becomes a little Club where this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► with a monopoly in a field becomes a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► to make a small number of people very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► monopoly but that's really the worst of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/867">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► corporation right so we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► about what what ails Microsoft obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/874">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► I'm leading into this because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► the what ails Microsoft is they well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► it's not as simple as saying they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/884">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► playing defense but the similarities to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► this article this article which by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► Microsoft it mentioned like Xerox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► IBM and other companies that as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► Microsoft did get a near monopoly on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► monopoly if you want to put it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► in the United States on the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► computing market but did they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► playing defense I it can be argued that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► Microsoft has Microsoft could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► written this article and say yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► aware of all these things we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► we can't just defend we have to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► offense we have to try to enter new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/919">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► markets we have to do all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► right so the internet tidal wave memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► where Gates it was it came to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► through the input of his subordinates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► and stuff and just looking around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► we just really need to turn this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► company around and and get on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► internet thing everything has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/937">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► about the internet and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► let's take this big company and turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/940">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► and he was the big CEO and he made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► happen and he crushed Netscape which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► assuming he considered a victory not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/945">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► perhaps not understanding a crushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► Netscape is not the same as defeating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► the internet or becoming savvy on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► internet they created msn which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► money-loser for years because i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/955">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► they were fighting AOL AOL wasn't a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► enemy to fight like Microsoft has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► trying to it hasn't said oh we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► going to endure the Internet we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► going to try to have an online service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► and we're not going to be into web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► browsers they've been trying to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► defensive so you can't pin the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/968">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► sickness describe nazar I'll go exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► on them in that regard and the Xbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► stuff like that someone inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/977">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► company says hey I think we should make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► game consoles because that might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/979">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► future of computing because it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► about owning the living room and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► the technology to get into that business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► and we have PC games let's see if we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► adapt that to the Xbox and they lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► billions of billions of dollars over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► many years but certainly you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/991">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► the Xbox is the case of them playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► defense right they are playing offense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► this is just not doing a good job of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► all right the in many cases they chose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► the wrong enemy or they spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► money and were never successful in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► case of msn like that's combination they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► all they chose the wrong enemy and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► never really defeated enemy the enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► died of its own natural causes all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► while they just lost money trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► attack it so how do I think this relates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► to what what I think Microsoft problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► is the problem is not so much that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► were going to be on defense all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► but guys just defend everything we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► the problem is that all their offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► strategies in terms of like how we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► going to break into a new market how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► have to react to a threat so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► forth that was all well and good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► they were a big enough company they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► while we do these offensive things oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► and by the way we certainly can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► anything to lose what we've built right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► so they did all this offensive stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► it was just a given that we must also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► protect windows in office which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► their two big moneymakers obviously we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► will continue to protect them and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► will you know go off on these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► initiatives and try to do you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► these different things and try to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► you know get into the gaming market in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► the online market and make a web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► you know but of course you know windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► and office movie protected at all cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► and so that's that's different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Apple strategy which is go off and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► the new thing and if the new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► totally destroys the old thing so be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► so the example that would be the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► where the iPhone and iOS initiatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► were launched at a time when the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► revenues and they were dominant in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► music player market and they didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► well we're going to make this new iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► thing but of course we have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► everything we can to defend our 70% or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► whatever it was market share in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► music player market of course we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► defend that they said look the our iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► market share revenues profit everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► about it is going to start going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► and that's okay as long as we're the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► cannibalizing ourselves so they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► do all sorts of bending over backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► and shenanigans to make sure their iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► you know revenues and sales and market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► share to stay exactly as it was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► tried to grow and just defend it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► death they said like if it dies dies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► natural causes so be it the world has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► moved on it used to be the music players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► where where it was at now that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► that stuff is being subsumed into cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► phones and that's what we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► Microsoft has never done that Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► has never said we are going to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► game console initiative and we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► that the game console is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► platform of the future and the PC is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► so we expect game console revenue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► profits and sales and everything to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► up and we expect PC sales to go down so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► we're going to start we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► start cannibalizing our own PC business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► by like selling people Microsoft Word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► and Xbox it's now this is a silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► example obviously but I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► like giving an example of a product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► that Microsoft did produce they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► never allow it to do things that hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► its other businesses so that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► that's the thing I have my notes here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► that Microsoft has been defined by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► fear of losing what it's built all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► they they are afraid of losing that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► thing they built which is dominant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► either that or they've never they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► never produced anything they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► potentially could cannibalize their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► business-like you say well the Xbox's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► an example what do they make that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► possibly cannibalize their existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► business maybe they've only introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► replacements for this top pcs of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► the desktop PC has been defended because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► competitors not against themselves some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► of the chatroom said that the Xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► cannibalize the gaming PC Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► never makes money on the gaming PC ATI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► and NVIDIA perhaps made their money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► the gaming PC by selling high-end video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► cards at large profit involvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► margins but that wasn't making Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► any money if you played games on your PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► Microsoft makes money on its windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► licenses and the next part I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► get to is what Microsoft mostly makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► aware though I read no coming from it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► not coming from individual PC gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► buying Windows computers for their house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► Microsoft's cash cows very quickly got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► tied up into what I call Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► entanglements where you sign large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► numbers of computers to corporations you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► want to sell them licenses for exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► server for sequel server you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► sell them the dev tools over the making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► stuff and you want to sell them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► license for Windows for every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► desktop in this huge thousand two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► thousand three thousand person huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► company they thought they sold Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► in office to corporations and yes home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► users buy Windows in office too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► that's not really a regular recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► revenue where you get subscriptions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► really like that server software with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► the exchange licensing it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► Pursey licensing for like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► Windows NT server and the desktops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► all that stuff that's where the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► money is because then you get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► that you you can't get that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► money out of interval consumers yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► have that the scale for consumers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► they get this you know whatever they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► 10 20 30 bucks for each Windows license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► attached to a PC that's sold but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► really want that that enterprise income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► in that tight relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► Microsoft and the enterprise created the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► situation where Microsoft was willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► listen to what the enterprise wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► enterprise love the fact that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► buy soft hardware from different vendors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► and pit them against each other and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► they would talk to microphone and say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► really want to know we really want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► feature and that feature and we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► be able to do remote deployments is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► IT department talking to Microsoft not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► the individual people using computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► and corporations obviously ID Department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► we want centralized control of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► software installation we want to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► the internet explorer installations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► say but this set the security policies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► for them then we want to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► remote update them to new versions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► just everything the enterprise wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► for them we want an exchange server with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► centralized control over the the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► phones we put out so that if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► connects to an exchange server with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► their mobile phone we want to force them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► to have a keypad entry coded on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► phone so their phone is locked and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► that business that relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► Microsoft and the enterprise made it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► that the thing driving the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► of Windows wasn't individual consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► at home and it wasn't even people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► working in their desks and businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► it was the IT department at the large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► corporations right and so this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► situation that Microsoft got itself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► its its most important cash cow is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► product being driven by someone other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► than the end users and that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► always death for your product quality if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► your product is it you know what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► motivating your product development is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► not the end users like what would the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► end user like then right away you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► a conflict of interest because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► making things that people aren't going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► to like but they're forced being forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► to use by the our IT department and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► Microsoft probably knew it was in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► situation what what the thing I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► get into this the heart of what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► trying to get into in this podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► not so much where do they go wrong what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► lessons do we can take for but like sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► differently what if you could go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► time and explain to Microsoft how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► future is going to play out and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► believed you is all right well so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► do we do what do we do what could we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► that will prevent the present state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► Microsoft Word they've been knocked off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► their perch is the biggest technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► company they say they're seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► irrelevant in so many businesses they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► the struggling to get into nubes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► know what can we do to prevent that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► happening and the thing I think about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► like well well how did Apple sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► turn things around and it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► nothing it's not a good scenario to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► I go back in time talk to the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► people and say well so here's what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► did Apple almost went out of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► laid off thousands of people lost tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► of money went through multiple CP o CEOs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► uh em was supposedly 90 days from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► bankruptcy all right and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► brought back their old CEO or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► brought in this great guy Steve Jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► he fired more people and cut more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► projects and and basically tore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► company down it's sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► equivalent of an alcoholic hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► bottom right and then he made it picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► like one or two you know simplified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► everything removed tons of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► abandoned customers killed entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► platforms and then just picked one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► two special products he was going to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► attention to like when sched with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► iMac and then I mentioned the iPod and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► put all his is you know weight behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► something you could sell to Microsoft in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► 1995 you know so but I think that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► key to Apple success like Apple had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► luxury of slimming down to near death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► sizes before Jobs came back and saved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► and he saved it by cutting even further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► you can't tell Microsoft in 1995 what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► you know what you have to do is destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► your business and make it and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► yourself almost go bankrupt and destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► all shareholder value and become like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► falling off of the fortune 500 maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► falling off the Fortune 1000 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► finally you can you can get yourself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► position to be a success in a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► that's sort of a non-starter right ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► and I think I really do think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► Jobs had come back to an Apple in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► 1990 or something where they were still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► making lots of profits selling really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► expensive Macintoshes it would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► harder for him to have the success that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► he had because you would have to then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► convince everybody that we should stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► making all this money it's not hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► convince everybody that we should stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► doing what we're doing because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► having massive lawsuits if you come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► when the company's going down the tubes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► and you're losing money left and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► if you have a strong idea what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► should do they'll be willing to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► but if you're coming into a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► that's successful like a an apple in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► 90s or like a Microsoft in the mid-90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► still making tons of money you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► be really convincing to come to to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► the company say I don't want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► money that way I want to make money a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► different way uh so here's here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► key lack of will that I think Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► the the key McKee mistaken reasoning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► that Microsoft had no before before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► reveal that we get it I know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► like to interrupt you when you're on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► know you're on fire all right and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► we've got a do we get a pay some bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► are gonna do a sponsor but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► good one United pixel workers calm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► heard about this I have but I'm you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► to explain it to me because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► what it is yet big name everywhere then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► the name is everywhere and what these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► guys do is periodically they come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► with some really cool t-shirts will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► you one I believe that they consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► Massachusetts to be a full-blown State [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► these days so they will they will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► one for this what it is is they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► 50 states sale very very cool t-shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► there they've done a special run all 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► states and Washington DC and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► really cool t-shirts that have the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► printed on them there are American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► Apparel very high quality and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► originally going to only do it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► this week and I said let's let's do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► special thing we'll do a discount for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► 5x5 listeners and we'll extend the sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► for one more week they said well if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► do that we'll it'll be really stressful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► for us to get it out for the holidays I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► said well do you want to sell some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► shirts or not and they said okay let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► do it so they're giving 10% off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► entire order use coupon code five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► five United pixel workers calm they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► have a hoodie but all these are printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► on the super soft American Apparel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► things whatever your state is you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► there you pick Massachusetts and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► will get a Massachusetts shirt so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► what it is United pixel workers calm 10% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► don't be also have something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► internet celebrities like Mike Montero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► do design their own shirts and yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► absolutely Mike Montero has done one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► think Zelda Minh has done one so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► can can be recognized by their for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► talents and they will do special shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► but right now they're on this bed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► here's the thing I should mention this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► after this run the 50 states out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► gone that's what I was gonna say like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► you wanted to get the mic when Tara one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► tough like that's gone right yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► too bad so if you want if you want a 58 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► it's not like they just have a stock of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► these things and keep them around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► November 29 2011 that's a mere four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► from now at 11:00 a.m. is when it ends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► don't know why it it's 11:00 a.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► Eastern Time but that's when it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► so go get you go pick out your state and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► if you want you can get all 50 states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► and Washington DC and you'll still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► 10% a lot of t-shirts do you wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► I do we gotta get them to send you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► Massachusetts now here's the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► question I've asked everybody this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► this week but I want to ask you where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► you were born and raised in is it Rhode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► not Massachusetts no it's not New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► State somewhere yes okay so would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► get New York State or would you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► Massachusetts or both if they had a Long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► Island sure to get that just Long Island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► you know the important part of New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► State but assuming they don't I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► had to get Massachusetts like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► where I'm spending my adult life right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► so even though I grew up in Long Island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► Massachusetts shirt I think although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► again having both wouldn't be bad either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► well there is tempers enough but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► looking at the Massachusetts one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► everybody loves pixels all right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► Marco was talking about something in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► show saying what upstate was and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► and he was saying that anything is north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► of where you are in New York that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► of a a humorous way to describe it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► think there's an actual definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► what upstate is it does get fuzzy around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► where he lives but basically it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► to find what upstate is not upstate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► not Long Island or the New York metro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► area and where you draw the line at New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► York metro area like how far north along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► the Hudson do you go before you say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► you're out of the New York metro area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► there is some fuzz around there but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► not that it's not that big of a fuzz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► somewhere above Westchester around there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► certain point that there's a lot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► line is somewhere in that fuzzy region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► right but there's the whole rest of New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► York and that's all upstate except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► Long Island and New York metro area so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► here in Albany who says they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► upstate that bed nation they're upstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► why is it bad to be upstate why's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► it's not bad it's just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► there is where is upstate upstate New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► York or just saying upstate that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► that's where it is it seems like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► do you live I live in upstate New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► well we most people should know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► that is with some sort of fuzz around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► you know where does the New York metro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► area end as you go north Mountain Hudson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► but certainly no one's going to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► you live in you know Staten Island Bronx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► or Long Island if you live in upstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► New York but Albany is no ambiguity none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► you know Buffalo anything like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► upstate all right so where was I oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► actually totally lost my train of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► I can even know where I wasn't a note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► suppose what was I gonna say before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► break I was got so interested in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► t-shirts I did that's right nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► distracting uh well you were taught you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► were about to reveal it was a big reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► I remember that much there's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► reveal you were gonna give it all away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► this is the what you've been leading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► pressure all right so I think what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► slimming down to near-death sizes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► because you had just talked about Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► Jobs coming in and completely beating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► different shape than it was in before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► but it was like almost dead at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► point right so the whole thing that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► is saying what what could Microsoft do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► if you went back in Jesse yes that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► another the overall thing with like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► individual part miles here so no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► wants to go into a company that's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► money like gangbusters and change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► way they do things but also here does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► that for remember this the key decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► decision in Microsoft's mind like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► one thing that you need to change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► Microsoft's mind is the idea that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► not serving the enterprise IT market or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► manufacturers everything like that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► being so afraid to do things differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► than the thing that brought them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► big monopoly and the thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► were afraid of and probably still are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► afraid of was that if they didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► that if they didn't if they didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► to those IT managers say what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► guys want we'll work with you for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► next revision of Windows and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► work with the PC manufacturers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► hardware vendors and everybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► and Intel and AMD and just like beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► serve be the software component of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► PC platform and like work with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► guys the fear is if that they didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► that someone else would come and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► that and take that business away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► them remember when they were super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► afraid of Linux like oh my god you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► we were making these money off Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► what if Dell or HP or something suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► start selling Linux machines and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► donate P would do these little dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► moves over to the Linux side of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► and be all oh yeah we're thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► making Linux pcs and Microsoft forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► all scared okay okay we'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► break on one you know that's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► break up the windows licenses this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► dance around like they're always afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► that someone else was going to take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► business from and that that fear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► fear that if we look if we need to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► doing this Windows an office thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► know what it takes we know what we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► to do to win this market we know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► takes to keep this market we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► continue to do what all the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► people all our stakeholders in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► market want of us because if we let this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► go someone else is going to get it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► someone else gets it them they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► to be the new Microsoft and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► going to have billions of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► they're going to have the windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► office cash cows and we'll be nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► right and that's that that fear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► that someone else was going to come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► eat their their lunch who is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► that most handicapped the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► accounts company enough I was back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► Microsoft in those days I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► tried to play this out a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► say ah so if you don't do this you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► do what this idea vendors want if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► don't make these hardware manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► happy if you don't if you don't mold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► your your company and your strategy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► compatibility but the app vendors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► all the people who are how to stake in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► Windows who you currently serve with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► your things what are you afraid is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► to happen who is going to come and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► that market from you Linux if they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► well what about Linux is this new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► maybe they didn't know or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► guess I look I've seen the future Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► Linux is not going to come in and steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► that marker from you because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► just it Linux is not a company it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► amorphous open-source thing yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► going to eat your lunch in the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► space you're right to be afraid of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► but like the desktop where you one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► know we we own the desktop and corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► IT and the mail servers know stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► that I'm actually amazed at how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► exchange is held up against the Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► Mail service and for the same reason is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► that you know it's that's not another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► company with the strategies is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► amorphous group of people working on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► open-source product it has its place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► it's going to hurt you in business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► they're not going to come and take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► PC desktop from you they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► Linux on the desktop is the reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► hasn't happened they are even less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► capable than you are of doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► customers want and they're also not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► capable of doing what the IT people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► so the IT bill like who the IT people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► individual Linux company you know Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► is bigger than Red Hat you can't just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► to Red Hat and say we're done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► Microsoft Microsoft has betrayed us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► Linux you are our Savior and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► talk to Red Hat and ran a bit like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► it's great and all but we don't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► Linux you know there's a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► who contribute to Linux so like we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► to sell you something but you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► talking to Linux now you're talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► red hat and you know it's it so Linux is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► not going to looks just cannot take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► market from you just constitutionally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► unable to take the the PC desktop and ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► market as you know it away from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► Apple Apple doesn't even want those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► markets this I think is the killer one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► they're like be OS or Apple or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► like oh they're going to take Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► spent after Steve Jasper they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► want that market you keeping that market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► is helping Apple because I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► afraid if I was at Apple that Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► would do moves that took it away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► the interests of that market and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► market would come to Apple and say where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► Microsoft is doing things we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► they're not listening to us anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► they're breaking compatibility they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► making our lives more difficult we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► looking around for alternatives can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► help us and I would be terribly afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► that if Microsoft had been a polite bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► leadership the leadership would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► I don't know we haven't really been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► that market but cheese that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► lot of money over there you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► you know Microsoft sells for software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► licenses for that you know much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► make them at exchanged up you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► many seats they have Windows PCs game I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► know we're not really into that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► we're doing this consumer digital hub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► thing with the iMac but but geez we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► can't we can't leave that money over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► there we gotta go look at that now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► would happen if Steve Jobs was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► Steve Jobs oh that he would just tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► them look if you want to use your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► computers fine here they are we'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► some stuff to help you if you want but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► we're not going to change the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► make our products for your stupid needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► we're trying to make the best products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► possible you know so they'll add all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► that exchange stuff to iOS so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► use your corporate email with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► they'll do you know they'll do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► enterprise deployment for the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► and stuff but they're not gonna slap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► a hardware keyboard because you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► that's what all your you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► corporate customers want they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► going to make $200 desktop PCs that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► pieces of crap because that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► enterprise wants cuz they want like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► volume just count Dell black pizza box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► thing to put all their people's desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► sitting up there is not going to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► apples it was under Steve Jobs that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► this is what we make will meet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► will help you a little bit but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► going to be like Microsoft so who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► was it that was going to take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► market from Microsoft nobody was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► to take it and the reason nobody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► going to take it is because either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► they're incapable of it or in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► case they don't they realize that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► who wants to be the king that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► fighting the old war Microsoft won that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2338">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► war he they are that King getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► going back there and say huh we're king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► of the desktop now that would hurt Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► because suddenly Apple would be beholden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► to all those different markets and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► that's the thing like a race Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► from history right now like a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► company blips out of existence including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► all their products and everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► scrambling oh my god I have a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► at Microsoft flipped out of existence so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► I need another computer are they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► gonna go out and buy Macs financially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► they can't most of the time because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► I have to my I'm allowed $300 per seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► in my ten thousand person company for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► PCs and I can't even get iPads of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► price and Apple just doesn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► kind of volume business they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► there did not they're not a capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► doing that it would bankrupt me to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► that and if you did buy all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► that's just Apple doesn't have products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► or services that serve that market and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► they simply don't want it which is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► of the big reason why Apple's products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► are so much better than Microsoft's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► for consumers to satisfy the needs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► individual people first and corporate IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► departments xx if at all right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► big fear that Microsoft had that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► something to anger their constituents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► someone else will eat their lunch uh was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► unfounded there was no one no one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► could or wanted to take that market from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► them so that's why I said if I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► to tell Microsoft that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► chatter Briggs opposed to warp that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► that's another example of like you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► pig war Peter no so IBM was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► take that marker from you like this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► Microsoft didn't quite understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► strong their position was which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► strange to think like always to warp was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► gonna come and take their market IBM was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► was even older King than Microsoft no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► one was going to say well Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► gone let's go back to IBM they'll serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► our needs IBM wants to sell you its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► Hardware wanted to back then and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► corporate he doesn't like that they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► rather buy from Dell or Gateway Rover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► that crap boxes they're buying right uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► and they wanted windows compatibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► with all your software and always to had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► did have windows compatibility but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► was still you know tied to Microsoft on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► that and Microsoft could slowly change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► things to make you know os/2 is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► that the whole has two windows thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► like that that battle was done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► settled so this what I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► is the point after that where Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► which is clearly dominant os/2 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► basically dead and it was not coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► back and people had settled into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► routine of Microsoft gives us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► software licenses and we could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► Hardware from whoever we want right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► what I would tell Microsoft to do during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► this phase is look at your products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► decide what about them people don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► they're too complicated they've got lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► of all legacy crap that's in there from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► before that you were afraid you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► take out these we take this out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► break a bunch of stuff all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► that Apple did like abandon legacy ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► break backwards compatibility radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► simplify your operating system sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► kind of like what they're doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► everything out and anytime anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► proposed that a Microsoft during like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► the mid 90s and late 90s when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► so down people's hell we can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► will you know we will lose it if we tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► but yeah the next version will break a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► bunch of your applications but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► change where everything is and radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► simplify the operating system but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► gonna have to deal with it because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► think this is better in a long term for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► then there's oh no they'll they'll go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► someone else they'll all deploy Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► they'll they'll just play max instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► they wouldn't or couldn't you Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► didn't understand the power in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► position that it had there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► alternative to them they had enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► power to that they had to be confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► enough in their position to say at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► peak of our power now is the time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► we can make radical changes to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► operating system that make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► attractive to the people who have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► it to prevent you know Mac OS 10 or iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► from coming and looking like such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► breath of fresh air compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► everything microsoft did with windows so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► it's like well we'll try to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► simple I diversion but if you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► classic view you can get that back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► if you want see the classic control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► panel you can see that again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► all those kind of hedging your bets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► all that stuff even Metro you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► like well Windows 8 it's totally nude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► unrelated but if you want to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► the old desktop it's back there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► switch to the other you know they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► equivalent to Mac OS 10 as compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► classic Mac OS they did it with the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► OS the Windows NT core that eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► became quote-unquote mainstream in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► Windows 2000 ish that was a big internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► reshuffle albeit with maintaining as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► much backward compatibility as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► could possibly keep but I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► abandon like old 16-bit apps and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► old da stuff that had to run in a VM or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► whatever but they never made that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► split that Mac OS end and they certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► never made the hard jump that that iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► is there's no no Mac apps whatever no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► backward compatibility completely new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► platform because they were afraid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► they didn't think they could do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► what the time that they could have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► that was one that they were at the peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► of their power because nobody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► willing or able to take that market from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► so even though everyone would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► screamed and complained and people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► say their stock value would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► punished and their profits wouldn't gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► down or whatever it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► business would have gone elsewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► eventually they could have fielded a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► product it was so much better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► ones that they had you know killed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► those corporate IT people had probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► maybe had some bad experiences trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► and fault with a bond realized Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► just not interested in them and want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► come back to Microsoft and but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► would have eventually come out of winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► so this I think it is the main thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► that that Microsoft did wrong in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► past few decades the idea that it had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► maintain this market because if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► didn't someone else would take it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► under played their hand their hand was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► much stronger than they thought it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► may be an obviously it's easy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► hindsight to say well how do they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► Linux wouldn't take it how do they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► Apple wasn't doing that if if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► Microsoft you think everybody thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► like Microsoft you said if we if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► abandon this market by betraying those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► people and doing something that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► is better for the long-term health of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► our product but worse for for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► constituents who want our products to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► a certain way apples going to eat our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► lunch because if I was at Apple that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► what I would do that's the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► philosophy all of our competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► stumble we swoop right in and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► whatever that competitor is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► willing to do for you we will do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► for you we're ready to to be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► servant in this need to be your partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► and figuring out what kind of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► you need maybe maybe they thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► Apple would think like them you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► again it hindsight is easy to is easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► see oh sure you know they didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► everything that we know now that Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► Jobs in his attitude and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► couldn't have predicted you know was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► dangerous to move this is I admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► hindsight you know I'm just saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► if you could go back in time with full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► knowledge what would be the correct move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► and I think that's it that it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► they had a lot stronger hand they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► thought they did and they didn't play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► now they're kind of playing it out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► Metro as I alluded to we would did old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► several episodes in Metro where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► really is a clean break except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► fact that you can still see the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► that's not but on the tablets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► everything like the apps don't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► they do this entirely new UI paradigm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► you know new API is the whole nine yards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► with the hedge of the desktop hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► underneath but I actually think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► from Microsoft really to turn itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► around maybe the best thing that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► happen to them is for Metro to fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► miserably and you know like at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► point the only option maybe the 90 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► from bankruptcy option or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► everything goes to crap the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► starts falling apart not because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► competitors taking your place but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► because everyone starts using iPads or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► god knows what like some other some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► other horrible thing starts happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► business and you're just the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► declined sales declined your cash cow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► stops being a cash cow your new next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► generation product Metro just fails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► miserably in the market Windows 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► doesn't take off when the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► shriveled ball of what it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► like Apple in 1996-97 right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► someone comes in with a clearer vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► in terms of turns the thing around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► know that that maybe uh that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► not the scenario than anybody who's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Microsoft fan or shareholder an employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► but that may be the most likely dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► turnaround scenario at this point so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► because they didn't back when they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► the strongest hand they didn't use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► hand to force you know to force their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► customers and constituents to accept a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► more radical change in their ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► forwards that's been Apple's MO from day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► one of jobs has returned forcing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► customers Apple developers everybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► software to to choke down more than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► were willing to choke down it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► been their mo well you're taking all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► ports away it's just us beyond this iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► peripheral manufacturers like grumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► grumble grumble Kay fine we'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► bunch of USB stuff with teal plastic all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► over and for your iMac you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► you're making an entirely new operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► system it's objective-c with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► language and a new API and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► compatibility layer I still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► modify my apps and by the way you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► taking that away too it's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2876">TS</a>]
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00:47:59 ◼ ► crapples is taking away a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► more uh ask for a little bit more right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► the App Store we have full approval in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► your applications the customers aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► even ours that's just too much but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► always Apple is always asking for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► whereas Microsoft has just been so shy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► about that not wanting to anger the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► people who it serves not don't anger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► them too much right and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► just the wrong strategy for having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► long term success I think that's the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► of my Microsoft notes hmm it's a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► that I don't see discussed a lot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► everyone's talking about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2913">TS</a>]
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00:48:36 ◼ ► anyone talks about Microsoft did in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► past it's always about how great they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► did look at how Microsoft won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► desktop market look at all these great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► I mean there's a lot of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► Microsoft did though that helped Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► yeah unintentionally unintentionally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► on purpose or because they didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► Apple was a threat but it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► important of our history is back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► everyone thought it was doing so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► Microsoft were about how savvy it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► business and how it crushed Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► was the point where it made its worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► mistake not playing its hand not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► using you know think of think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► hands that Apple has played I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► bluffing or what but it would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► taking all the ports away from the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► they were an imposition of strengths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► when I did that they were gone down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► tubes and that was the time that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► they rightly Jobs rightly I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► if you call it a bluff or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► he was like you trust me on this like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2966">TS</a>]
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00:49:33 ◼ ► take away the floppy drive to look trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2973">TS</a>]
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00:49:51 ◼ ► stuff anymore but he did it so imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► how strong Microsoft's hand was if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► had done Apple like moves back when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► were so dominant they just think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/2999">TS</a>]
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00:51:35 ◼ ► would have to write it yeah so looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► at this this situation what do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► looking forward five years from now not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► at Apple which is what we're all fond of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► doing but at Microsoft what what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► company is Microsoft five years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► in 2000 a 2015 that's not quite five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► years from now what what is what in 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► what is Microsoft is it the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► are they still struggling have they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► out with something amazing are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► I mean what's what's the story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► problem I have with predicting any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► of non boring future for Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► the boring future is like well they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► of like they are now but like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► desktop business is making less money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► than you used to and they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► trying to be more successful Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► Phone 7 Metro is kind of out there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► but that's boring though that's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► a they're going to be dead because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► won't and it's not like they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► be 20 times the size they are now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► massively successful because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► think they will and the reason for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► is that when I look at all Microsoft's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► efforts even in cases where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► they're kind of doing the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► albeit too late everything they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► is a reaction to something somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► did that's what it seems like to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► the things they're not doing that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► reactions I just never get out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► so just look at all their product lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► Windows Phone 7 it's a reaction to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► the like MIT like pretty much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► mobile thing in the entire market since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► 2007 has been a reaction to the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► right because they Microsoft had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► window uh windows you know what was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► called Windows Mobile and then was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► see before that's great that they name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► the product whose if you pronounce this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3190">TS</a>]
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00:54:12 ◼ ► generation mobile platform because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► the ones we've had so far are not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► enough because of the iPhone that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► reaction and the Xbox is a reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► basically to the game console market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► starting to grip up its PC power like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► the PlayStation 2 being so massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► dominant and starting to be a powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► enough thing that you know it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► net it's got networking on it uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► it's got a powerful CPU and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► memory it's like boy you know to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► starting to look like pcs we need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► in that market so the Xbox Xbox is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► reaction to the console market that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► existed before them and and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► did sort of the same things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► rest of the console market did same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► thing on the phone that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► got to be all screen it's got to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► touchscreen yeah we'll do it from UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► buts react into the iPhone whatever set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► MSN is your action data well windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► your reaction to the Mac one other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► efforts might forgetting something the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► Microsoft's doing now that one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► important things Kinect is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► example Kinect is a reaction to we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► know the the we was the innovator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► they're saying we're going to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► input for consoles from this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► thing you hold your hand through thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► PlayStation Move because it's like oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► control at all like but it's still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► reaction to what's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► competitor did but I don't see from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► doing something where they're the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► one to do this thing and everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► going to be reacting to them I'll Bing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► is another example Bing does reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Google right they weren't the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► everything they do is your reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► somebody else no matter how good they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► are even have to execute like ten times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► better than the other guy they'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► be the one who defined that market the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► Zune the reaction of the iPod there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► they'll always be playing catch-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► especially behind for people like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► who are super secretive who's we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► idea what the hell a polygamist Evy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► product so if they do something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► turns out to be successful Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► gets a start like unannounced and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► scrambling to make their competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► product they don't get you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► don't get the two years of R&D that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► already gone into the Apple thing or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► you think that's a big part of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► secrecy targeted specifically at the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► companies like Microsoft that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► really had and I mean a lot a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► people are speculating that the secrecy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► behind Apple ism is as much for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► it's more about like people they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► surprise people and they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► people to not buy the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► they're offering out of their inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► but maybe it sounds like you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► that it sure it's those things but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► it's more directed at their big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► competitors like Microsoft I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► most important for the reason a police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► OC croteau I think mostly ties in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► Steve Jobs is personality but ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► like the origins of a wire secret if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► had to rank the benefits of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► secretive ignoring why what it motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► in the first place what what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► actual result of this what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► benefits the number one benefit I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► say is how how the market reacts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► stuff and how do consumers react it sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► of under-promise over-deliver thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► where they don't do the thing where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► show you what they're going to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► in a year because that is just poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► because no matter what you show them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► either like they want it right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► they start thinking your existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► products are crappy or they bill look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► fantasies in their head about what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► going to be about or you don't exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► meet what you showed in the demo like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► that the whole knowledge navigator thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► where they made like a fantasy video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► like this is what Apple computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► going to be like in the future and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► I'm gonna not ever own a set don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► show anything if you've got something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► show that is the number one benefit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► that what that does to the market is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► benefit from Apple secrecy that it frees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► them from all sorts of BS in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► public relations consumers everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► like there is nothing but rumors until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► we show you the thing and rumors is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► you know lucky those crazy rumors about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► everything like that's not affecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► their market there's there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► this this holiday season are people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► know I don't want to buy an iPad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► the iPad 3 is coming out and it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► double resolution display maybe as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► said that no you know you can't if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► has shown like the last WotC and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► cons great new iPad and look it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► double resolution spray is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► enthusiasm of people buying an iPad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► their you know families this Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► right nothing they say nothing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► they're ready with the thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► environment that creates our own Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► products from a consumers perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and for retail and very that is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► important result of secrecy and also by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► the way yet another reason why they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► totally incompatible with corporate IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► because that's not what corporate IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► wants they want a roadmap and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► doesn't want that so that the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► biggest reason probably is not honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► competitors that's what you were getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► at like you don't let people know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► you're you know you see all these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► this footage of you know that the brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► new version of whatever new car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► coming out and how they'll have it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► disguised when they're doing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► test runs in you know wonder if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► up if you're fan of any kind of sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► whenever they're doing their practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► they're very very careful about who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► go and see them running their drills and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► and you know that that's a known thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► so there's part of that is there for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► competitors but I guess I'm just curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► what where them the main concern is as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► competitors or is it I bet secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► concern is competitors because the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► about competitors is you can't do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► you do to consumers to them consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► like literally do not know if an iPad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► exists with the double resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► display or when it's coming out or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► all we have just vague rumors like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► but competitors usually have pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► solid leads like for example if Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► talking to every single television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► network there's just no way you can hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► that from competitors who's also talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► to the same guys I know apples going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► you can't say you ever met with us bla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► bla bla but when it's when it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► when you're in the room with the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► running CBS and Apple guys we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► there that week you can tell whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► never said like it's just especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► when you're doing deals with people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► content which is increasing what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► stuff is about other people can get wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► of the big moves that Apple's make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► more like manufacturers oh I'm sorry we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► don't have manufacturing capacity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► those LCDs why well we just don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► another you know we can't tell you who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► is taking that manufacturing capacity or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► yeah you can figure it out because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► are talking directly to the same people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► that Apple talked their consumers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► just talking to people who talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► people or the rumored from this guy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3624">TS</a>]
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01:06:21 ◼ ► think television probably be the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► bet kind of like game consoles were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► wrong bet in hindsight like they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► great game console that's not where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► future of the industry was and so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► they're kind of like second place game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► console but even like the first league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► game consoles terrified of iOS like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► Nintendo's out there you know getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► its lunch eaten by iOS so obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► they accept my croissant bet on mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► they just been whoo good job right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► we haven't talked about games and gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► consoles on this show like like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► industry have we not enough that'd be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► good topic for future show I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► that to be a topic for you to show I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► not sure how to focus it it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► it's kind of an amorphous concept I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► don't know what I don't know thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► think I've actually have this in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► notes for this show is talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► Nintendo does Nintendo I think is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► interesting analog to Apple and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► also a company at the crossroads so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► maybe I'll just do a whole show on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► Nintendo or on the aspects of Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► that remind me of Apple and they relate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► to Apple so I'll tuck that away for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► the future probably in the show then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► yeah we also never talked about patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► somehow we managed remember that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► pile yeah everybody everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► talking about patents and I never I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► not that I have a particular unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► injures or interesting take on patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► but it will be worth throwing into some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► show he kept quiet no everyone else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► doing you know people had more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► connection like Marco had a more direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► connection with the with the whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► sis things and stuff like that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► better to leave that to them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► forget what I was talking about at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► time probably something completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► unrelated so it didn't quite fit in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► maybe I'll circle back to it eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► because it you know it doesn't leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► news stays in there we should end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► then I think so too bad you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► any turkey sitting there waiting for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► no I what I did bring to Thanksgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► was the dessert so I got a lot I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► lot of desserts in the house that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► of bad though big it's like yeah say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► that don't you say that like it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► yeah just well I know you yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► generally you don't want to load up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► that stuff no matter even if even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► loved it even if you love desserts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► can have too much of your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► dessert and then you just don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► mmm that never happened to me instead it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► happens to me it's not true of like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► favorite savory food I think mostly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► true like it's like not like your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► on steaks you know like I just can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► can't have another steak I had steak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► you still like steak you have have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► had apple pie three times last week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► came time for dessert you wouldn't be up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► for the Apple no not me maybe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► dessert anyway reset for the after dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► but I'll save it for the after dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► alright so listen up people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► enjoying this episode we don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► lot of show notes but I've actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► making some tweaks to the show notes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► little bit of feedback somebody emailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► to say Dan you refer to the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► and then when I actually go to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► notes page it says episode links what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► are you trying to do to me so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► actually fixed that and a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► other things and I did something just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► for you John I haven't deployed this yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► but in my early morning coding efforts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► over the last week or so I've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► making little enhancements and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► them is something I think you might or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► might not care about you your friends at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► the incomparable podcast on 5x5 probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► would or will care about this but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► made a place for there to be extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► notes which can include embedded links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► and things like that so if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► do like a mini blog post along with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► episode you can now do there's a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► for you to do that and people may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► listening to this wondering what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► we have show notes the show notes by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► way are sponsored by help spot comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► which is great check them out but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► hypercritical slash 44 and all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► links and things that the John and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► sometimes me have found they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► there right there and you can follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► John on Twitter head siracusa I'm Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► benjamin on twitter and rate the show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► itunes there was somebody emailed to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► that there were 666 reviews of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► or ratings of the show was a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► show was are you sure that was this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► we've got reviews or ratings ratings now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► this there were way over that number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► ratings okay although we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► higher everybody just go and click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► little stars we're stuck we're stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► I just noted power through that yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► Thanksgiving and everybody thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► tuning in we'll be back next week same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnLNbSg/4269">TS</a>]