00:00:03 ◼ ► this is hypercritical it is a weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► talkshow ruminating on exactly what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/6">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► wrong in the world of Apple and related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► so perfect cannot be complained about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► bhaijaan siracusa who co-hosts this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/15">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► November 11 2011 this is episode number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/21">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► 42 we would like to thank our sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► reinvigorate net and Raven dot IO and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► fact a reinvigorate is also sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► reinvigorate dotnet real-time web stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► and heat maps tell me more about them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► the show goes on hi John siracusa I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► and Benjamin how are you feeling all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► right you sound good yeah but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/50">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► gonna matter game control that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► ah sounds like oh you've been working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/57">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► out no no definitely not okay all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/58">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► do you know what today's show is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/64">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► dashboard so it doesn't occupy too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► resources on your MacBook Air oh no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► no we're gonna talk about the Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► studiously avoided listening to any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► your other shows that discuss that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/84">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► didn't lessons Andy a knocko show and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► discussed it Kay yester whatever Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► show was we started talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► I don't think Marco talked about it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/93">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► all but not really avoiding all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► discussions because I'm assuming you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► have very similar things to say and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► harder to save them and sound fresh if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► you've heard a bunch of other people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/103">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► the same things but you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/104">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► luxury unfortunately I like I like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► in the book I I Finn it I'm so close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► finishing it I'm within pages pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► being done I would know so don't ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► all these a last show where we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/116">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► to talk about it I figured now surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► you will have finished it I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/119">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► enough that I can do you didn't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► to the earlier show so you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► but I'm I am but I don't have it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► desk right now so I'm not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► reading passages from it so I will rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► on you to read the passages oh great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► well yeah I'm sure you have a someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► who can get you your copy of the book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► don't want to inconvenience anybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► want me to go away alright you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► you talk in a second and all gonna be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► your you think that's going to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/143">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► alright this is what they call dead air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► Jenna let's talk about something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► just throw down a marker now we donate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► it for content I've got the book on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► alright ready oh but before we do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► book we will do some follow-up just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/165">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► little bit Fe huh yeah so Chris Moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/166">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► writes in to clarify the pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► of the of Sony's handheld the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► platform the PSP it's spelled vit a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► every time apparently I've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► it in the past two or three shows I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► waffled on how to say it because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► know well here he is someone who lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/185">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► phonetic lettering and the pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► is Vita live in la vita loca yeah kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/193">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► of sounds like Viva that they says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► Japanese doesn't specify what syllable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► the emphasis is on but it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► should be vita so there you go store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► that in your your notes for any future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► shows where I don't think any of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► other hosts know that the PSP Vita [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► exists but if it ever does come up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► you'll know the correct pronunciation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► what is it something this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/221">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► the 3ds that's not me no what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► thing well finally got Mario so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► finally on my radar okay that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► long is a 3d a spin-out camera a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► doesn't you know that's like saying oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► well we got this new car but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► gas for it so I find Rhino with the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► the D the Nintendo DS is yes so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► a in the same line of products but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/249">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► there's more to it than that they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/258">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► changed all the chips inside it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► more powerful and so on and so forth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► the big headline feature is that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► it's that glasses-free 3d where it sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► like the left eye image sort of shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► off the left and the right I am and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► shooting off to the right side a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► your your head to the center of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► display to see the 3d effect but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► don't need glasses you don't need any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► shutter glasses or anything like that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► get headaches from this thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► own one I'm not big on handhelds games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► some people say they do get headaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► from it but the best thing about 3ds is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► that has a little slider next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/289">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► screen that you can slide up or down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► sliding it all the way down just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► it 2d so if you slide this thing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► way down is there a benefit to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► this over the just the regular one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► it's more powerful bigger screen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► game's a better looking the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► says March 27 2011 was the US release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► the 3ds okay it's been having a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► bit trouble in the market because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/309">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► competition from iOS games and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► like that and they've had to reduce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► price already and it's a source of much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► consternation in the world of Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► but some good software is coming out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► it now as you noted the new Mario game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► everybody loves they did a port of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► 3ds where they didn't just port it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► the 10 to 64 they also improved all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► graphics and added 3d of course so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► never been into the handheld gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► platforms at all because I'd rather play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/336">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► on a big screen and I want a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► little thing but kids obviously love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► do you have one of these or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► saying by explanation of what you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► said that you did not have one I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► have one I showed it to my son when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► was in the store they have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/348">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► store displays where you can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/349">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► sit there in front of it and did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► little slider and he played it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/352">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► couple seconds but it wasn't so blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► away that he said oh my god I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► have one of those because you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► gets to play on the big TV screen so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► not sure how we do the little portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► things is the the the leaf blowers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/364">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► back yeah they'll be gone in a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► all right I think unless I messed up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► notes this next follow up is from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► same person Chris Moore or somebody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► the same name we talked about Windows 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► contracts a couple shows ago mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► I was mentioning how uh it was similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► to Apple's ancient technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► nobody remembers called publish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/388">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► subscribe which was similar to oily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► calm and blah blah but I mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► the difference in naming were published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and subscribe is kind of a liberal arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► Media publishing and magazines for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► subscriptions or whatever and contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► interesting which that which company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► came up with which term well Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► points out that another place where our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► designed by contractor you familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► that concept in programming yes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► think it would be ideal if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► detail and explain it for the listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► I don't know all the other thing I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► about it is what I read in a notebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► years and years ago but it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/425">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► you you it's a way of formalizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► relationship between entities in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► program where you say what I call this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► function is I have a contract with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► function in my contract is before I call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► this function XY and Z will be true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► after I call its connection function P Q [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► and X will be true I'm probably mangling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► it but there are some it prescribes its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► software designers should define formal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► specifications for software components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► or components as you say which extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► the ordinary definition of abstract data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► types with preconditions post conditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► and invariants these specifications are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► referred to as contracts in accordance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► with a conceptual metaphor with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► conditions and implications of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► contracts yeah and some some languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► have sort of built-in support for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► concept there better support for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/472">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► concept the book I read about it in was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► auditory design and one of the types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► oh that you can do with Perl is design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► implementation of it and why you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► want to do it so it's possible that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► that but that's where they came I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► thought of that but I haven't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► about design by contract in many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/489">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► television stuff we did a show was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► last week recently where I rambled on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► for a long time about Apple's prospects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► for TV television sets talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► what what Apple needed to make go of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► in this game I mostly it came down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► all that they can a girth at have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► content to get people over to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► product are they gonna have a critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► mass of content could they ever have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► enough content to persuade more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► everybody that this is an equivalent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► better service than their existing cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/526">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► technologies in the input method how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► just sort of remote what about Siri so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► that's what we discussed in the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► one thing I had my notes that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► didn't get to and someone brought out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► this was Russ newcomer assuming I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► pronouncing his name correctly he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► give a pronunciation I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► thing he brought up is so let's say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► my fantasy scenario Apple gets in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► they get all the content like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► everything Showtime HBO all the sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► just you know everything anybody needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► that that's a non-issue and they figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► out the interface thing so it's like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► you know if you're currently I've cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► you should get this Apple thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► it's great I can watch all my shows it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► it's it's a deal financially and I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► this new interface they still face the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► problem of you can't just take everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► who currently watches cable television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► and switch them to this new Apple thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► because we all assume this new Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► thing will be sending you television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► programming over the internet like no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► don't even discuss that on all the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► discussing well how these programs get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► to the houses we just assume it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/592">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► internet right well the cable television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► has a huge advantage over television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► stream from the internet and that cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► television is broadcast they broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► channels that you want it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► efficient than streaming an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/608">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► thing to each person's house and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► sort of broadband internet networks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► massively oversubscribed they assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► comcast cable or whatever is not pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► the maximum bandwidth that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► allowed according to their contract at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► the same time they're just not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► bandwidth that so Apple's success in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► fabulously successful and have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► amazing everybody wanted like an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► like success with it just sells you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► subscription left to right and sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► for this thing very quickly I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► would run into the the issue that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► just don't have the right infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► for this to work I mean CBN's and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► like that can really help in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/649">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► not sending the bits all the way across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/650">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► the country and everything but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► things like live streaming for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► some sort of broadcasting seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► has to be necessary or at least some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► sort of agreement with ISPs or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► King out there in the massive success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► scenario no maybe this is not a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► because it's not like they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► overnight get all these subscribers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► then you know but it this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► example of where it seems like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► to cooperate with the people they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/676">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► achieve the massive success that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► they would want to have you know so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► it had to work with the ISPs work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► Verizon and Comcast well you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► say let's let's get in this together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► I'll give you cut of the money but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► got to figure out some way to get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/694">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► this content at these people's houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► because you know we the nerds watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► Netflix and stuff like that but most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/699">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► people are watching broadcast television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► not over-the-air broadcast but broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► on cable and FiOS and stuff so I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► that was a good point to that I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/707">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► all right jobs bio this is the book came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/712">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► out a number of weeks ago Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► titled by Walter Isaacson this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/721">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► freshly freshly me now did you did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► read this on a Kindle or did you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► this did you read this instead on on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► you know hardcover book we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► actual kindle device in the house or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► Kindle second-gen I've tried to use it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► few times but I'm a very long time ebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► reader from the days way before ye Inc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► was available before the Kindle from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/749">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► like 2002 I've only been reading ebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► and I'm very used to reading on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► little originally on a palm device but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► little handheld LCD screen I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► don't get access to the iPad because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/761">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► wife is using it but she does let me use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► her Kindle book she doesn't use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► much I just can't get into it so I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► everything these days which is on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► and where I bought it I did buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► through the Kindle bookstore so you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► you read this whole book an iPod touch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► read this is the thing I tell people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► electronic books in 2002 or 2001 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► whatever telling people that you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/784">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► books electronically made you seem crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► and the thing I always tell them is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► I read Lord of the Rings on a 160 by 160 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/789">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► including that plus the Hobbit Hobbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► 160 by 160 screen and I read that series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► of books twice why do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► how big 160 160 pixels is do that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► springboard is probably bigger than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► must not wear glasses I do wear glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► I'm but I'm nearsighted but the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► Lyman obviously that was not ideal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► the advantages of having all those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► in that little device or I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► dreaming about boy if you know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► screen on my palm thing could get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► little bit bigger than this 160 560 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► square maybe double the res and become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/829">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► display proportion man I'd be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► see so much text and the iPod Touch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► basically that amazing device you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► even just the first gen iPod Touch Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► look at all these words and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► the iPad is even bigger carrying alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/841">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► chat room a sofa I worked for an early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► book Apple yes I worked for a book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► originally peanut press that became palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► digital me when Tom bought them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► went through several different name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► changes and ownership changes and sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► things happened in the end but we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► at one time the world's biggest ebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► store literally we were just not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► big so so yeah I read the book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► Kindle version pretty much entirely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► my ipod touch as usual and you you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/868">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► the paper version I saw in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► picture when you're recording with genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► I do I have a the hardcover version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► the book reading it as it was intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► to be read know about that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► about that either but I do have a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► print copy because I like that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► that I haven't people are upset with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/891">TS</a>]
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00:21:49 ◼ ► then the intro to the book I said Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► Jobs didn't hold anything back he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► even want to see what was being written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► in the book you can read anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► want you have complete access and access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► to me my family everybody he didn't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► his friends oh this guy's going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► writing a book about me but don't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► him anything it was just complete access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► and one guy got this that's why it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► important to pick the right guys if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► just written a Steve Jobs bio and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► been the official loan guy who gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► authorize access then you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► no big deal but now the jobs is gone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► one else is gonna ever going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► this direct access he was the guy and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► is the wrong guy oh and the reason I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► he's the wrong guy is that Walter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► Isaacson does not know this industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► that the you know the industry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► Steve Jobs grew up in and and defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► that's that's strike one but strikes two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► and three is that he doesn't know it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► he didn't bother to learn about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► that's the most egregious sin if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► like it's like he didn't feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► responsibility of you know I'm the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► guy with the authorized Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► biography I know nothing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► industry at all but boy I better buckle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► down and learn like you know you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► do if it was like a young hungry kid who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► just came out of like a liberal arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► degree and he was a writer but knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► nothing about technology and he but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► understood who Steve Jobs was and why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► was important why he was important like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► boy but I better learn this stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► better go to library I better read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► everything I can about this industry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► better learn everything there is to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► about this industry so I can come into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► understanding stuff alright now why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► it bad not to learn by the sub one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► the things that it was Gentiles gas a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► said in his blog is that some people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► well this is exactly who you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► write a bio by chip we don't want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► technologies you want an outsider to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► write it so he can sort of get a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► perspective and stuff and don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► guess I came down at the same time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► understand this industry because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► don't understand the industry how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► you know what's important right how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► you know what's important in the life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► this person and what Walter Isaacson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► came in with this sort of a a generalist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► lay person's knowledge of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► right and what he ends up focusing on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► the bio are sort of human interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► general interest stuff family friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► relationship religion money gossip like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► things things that are just common to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► the human experience and he should write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► about those but it's impossible to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► any real insight to a life like Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► Jobs if you just look at the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► are common to all lives right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► cuz he wrote BIOS about a Benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► if you can write them all from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► perspective of those topics that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► common to everybody you're missing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► about what it is that so specialness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► that's especially in well that with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► Einstein fine he's dead it's not no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► one's interfering with him you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► a by a bio like here's Albert Einstein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► written from a lay person's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► I don't want I won't really talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► the physics cuz I don't understand them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► and arguably physics is a lot harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► understand the tech industry but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► just tell you about his life and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► work and sort of you know a generals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► perspective but that is the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► approach to take to Steve Jobs um and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► think the the Boursin is that the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► exhilarating and interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► about Jobs Life Center on tech industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► topics uh the things things that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► exciting to you if you don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► why they're interesting or important you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► can't adequately capture those aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► of his life so you know if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► understand the technology industry so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► you know and and I Justin doesn't I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► that he doesn't capture the exhilaration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► of the what we and the industry know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► be the important moments of his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► they're they're given equal weight to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► the significantly less important aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► of his career in life just because both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► of them have an equal amount of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► repercussions because every understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► dollars and cents everyone understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► you know love and family relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► and those things are important but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► that's the only criteria for measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► the the interest and importance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► events in someone's life you will mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► it up especially when that person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► Steve Jobs now these things that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► saying I can agree with but I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► them from the standpoint uh that I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► relatively geeky person but don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► think that this book was targeted and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► this is this is the same thing I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► you have not intentionally not listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► to the other shows but this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► response before which is to say don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► you feel that based on the audience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► this book based on the the the intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► audience of this book based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► people who are intended to be reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► this book yes it includes people like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► but it is not necessarily people like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► Andre it is everybody except us who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► probably going to be uh wanting to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► about this there is I mean it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► that much in this book that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► know I'm sure there were details and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► stories and things you hadn't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► about but what was there that much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► you didn't really know about in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► book that came as a surprise or was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► oh my gosh I had no idea or is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► something that's sort of wrapping up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► things you already knew about proving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► that you're really probably not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► correct intended audience for this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► his responsibility to the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► don't know this industry as well as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► do is to teach them about it that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► a book is about if you read a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► Revolution someone who doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► about the history of the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► Revolution is supposed to read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► and be taught why was this important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► what are the important parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► Revolution you know by the end of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► that person should have some knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► of the American Revolution and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► which parts were were significant you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► had I'm not saying you have to get super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► nerdy but you have to he said it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► that he's a lay person but say he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► lay person who did his homework and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► learned about the industry and learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► about the technology so that he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► adequate least tell the story of jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► his life and he would explain that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► the lay people to say here's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► need to understand about jobs you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► there's this particular thing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► why this this particular change was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► important or this is why this decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► or this technology or anything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► important in the context you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► have to teach the people about the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► you don't you don't write it for nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► as if they're you're assuming they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► this baseline knowledge you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► to explain stuff you do have to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► complaining that he explains stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► I already knew or background that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► already knew in fact I think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► have done more of that he his job is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► and again this is so so much so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► more important because he's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► official guy who got the taken if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► want to write the sort of boring human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► People magazine bio of his life fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► if you're the guy's got official access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► your job should be to write the best bio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► that you can pop that those are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► expectations this is this has got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► the best bio of Steve Jobs or a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► about this any topics he's the one guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► who gets access and I think that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► rich is not it's not a question of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► targeted towards people like us it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► of doing justice to the subject matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► you it you can't like the author didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► understand what was important and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► neither did the people who read this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► understand what was important because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► we're there and we're the Nerds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► and that's that's not a successful book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► you should be explaining to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► who don't know why all this stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► important uh so I'm gonna do a and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► the first part of the book you're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► about is like did you did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► anything you didn't know before right uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► I unlike almost everybody who reads this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► book of course I had read many many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► many books about Apple Steve Jobs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► early years of the personal computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► industry I've seen things in television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► I read websites you know massive amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► of background and the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► book obviously or maybe not obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► but didn't have much new information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► everything you saw in the first part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► the book were things that I had read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► when does this change what chapter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► did you even see chapters on your Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► but do you do you know what about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► percentage did chapters on my Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► yeah as so well let me first finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► complaining about the verse I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► looking to tell you where the turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► point was okay uh so in these sections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► like not only have I read these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► before I know exactly what sources he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► was pulling them from right it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► that one's pulled from folklore data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► that was from Mike evangelist blog when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► he wrote about cuz I remember reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► that blog post four years ago or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► was from a second coming of Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► this is from you know I used to beaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► you know I the number of books ever on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► this topic is unbelievable he does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► a massive bibliography in the back ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► that's kind of expected because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► harder to go back and interview people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► from the 70s of it like memories fade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► people might be dead you know it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► something that longtime well I will add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► though that the very best history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► they go they you know say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► writing a book about something from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► 50s or whatever if is anybody's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► alive like they do the research they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► up writing a book in 2000 and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► about the 50s it has more detail in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► than the books that are written in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► 50s but I admit that as kind of a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► bar but the thing that killed me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► all the stuff I'm reading is that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► yeah I see where I remember where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► he badly summarized it he didn't pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► on what was important about the story he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► just related sort of the broad strokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► of the story maybe in a way that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► subtly misleading but in a way that adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► no new insight it reminded me of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► when I'm in a school a grade school kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► does a book report the book report on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► some Hemingway book is not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► as good as the Hemingway book itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► summarized but I would say don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► the first half of this book just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► all the source material if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► actually know about the stuff because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► takes a source material and lessons it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► and makes it makes it worth less than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► is in the original context and not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► through leaving details out but through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► what he decides to focus on which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► what's important or interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► those stories so I didn't didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► the first part of the book but I knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► kept reading because I knew there had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► be a turning point coming because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► the books I read personally on topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Apple Steve Jobs stopped around the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► of the iMac and usually like around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► time of Steve Jobs is returned because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► that's kind of when he seriously shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► off the valve on talking to the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► right when he returned to Apple the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► secrecy door came down hard getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► interviews with him was not easy unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► he was promoting a product he would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► very sort of careful in those interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► and just talk on talking points and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► know that's kind of where the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► went off and I've heard all right at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► very least once we get around the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► of the iMac I'm gonna see some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► information because all the books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► all the articles and everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► I've read it doesn't give a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► detail about that we don't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► wanted to learn what's going on inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► Apple that I didn't know about and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► true to form around the time of the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► and around the time of the return to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► information and this new information was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► just as sort of glossed over and not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► previous information but the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► difference was I didn't have a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► incarnation of this information with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► which to compare so something is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► than nothing new information has come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► light if the where was the turning what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► was the treated when they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► infuriating to me but yeah where was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► turning point what chapter oh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► remember the chaplain you just said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► I told you the turning point is around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► the time of the iMac the chronology is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► little bit weird because as the book as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► the book goes on it kind of jumps around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► chronologically but into like it changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► from strictly chronological to subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► matter right like like chapter 27 is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► chapter on the iMac but prior to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► they go into like talking about design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► principles they talk about different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► they talk about and like what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► on at Pixar and I've I mean did you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► those things that you knew about did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► already know about the Pixar story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Telstar was not nothing new there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► nothing everything they had in Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► again I had seen more detailed better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► accounts of with better interviews and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► elsewhere but yeah but they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► put Pixar like in one chapter right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► the same thing like he had dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► cancer chapters but of course they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► cancer chat birds overlap with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► chapter about the iMac which overlaps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► the chapter but you know messing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► the chronology is fine you can pull that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► off that's not my complaint so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► but that is why it's hard to pin down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► like at what chapter should you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► reading and if anyone wants a suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► for what I think is the best book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► early Apple it's not about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► strictly but about early Apple it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► infinite loop by Michael Malone that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► isn't perhaps you would get a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► impression by reading all the 900 books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► that I've read on the topic but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► just have to read one about early Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► comprehensive by an excellent author who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► took the time to learn about this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► it is in the show notes all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► actually I don't know what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► um can you buy is this book still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► print infinite loop I don't know sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► on my shelf is back when I still bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► paper it says it says buy used fulfilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► by Amazon but buy used it's worth it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► worth getting used if you want you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► or else just read every single book my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► topic I mean can you find easy to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► still the second coming a Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► another printing Apple confidential has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► a more recent printing I think I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► looking over my bookshelf to read off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► these titles that I see poking out of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► oh yeah insanely great you want Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► confidential apricot Apple confidential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► 2.0 the defend I was saying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► some books have gotten revs like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► second coming Steve Jobs got revisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► Apple confidential got got a revision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► because they add more new info and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► infinite loop I don't think that been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► implemented loop is a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► written much more confident much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► interesting book about the things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► early chaplet chapters of this book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► now if you'll permit me to indulge I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► individual things that infuriated me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► going through my long list of packages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► and passages and strangeness from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► book this is what we've been waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► maybe not see how exhausted you get when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► we get into the Nile and I'm just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► waking up alright so I've got these cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► up into categories the first one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► course you - yeah the first one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► technical cluelessness right uh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► something I know Morgan I wanted to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► impression of the book and why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► it's not a good book before I get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► this part because people turn into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► show now they're gonna be like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► you're just pickin to these technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► things that aren't really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► that's that's no reason not to like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► book all the reasons I previously stated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► are the reasons I think this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► good book these are on top of all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► just the little daggers in the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► the nerds reading it obviously these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► things will not bother lay people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► reading it but I think the author has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► has shirked his responsibility to lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► people by not by not educating them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► emphasizing the correct things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► life of Steve Jobs all right so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► just cooking stuff this is a cyber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► critical after all so as I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► this book you know this is where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► highlighting them right and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► more or less in chronological order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► because I just went through down through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► my highlights great at one point he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► that uh Apple improved on Xerox PARC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► technology by adding menus that pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► down from a bar atop each window and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► I read that I'm like has this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► ever used the Macintosh a menu bar on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► top of each window there is an operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► system that's like that but but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► Apple's operating sit like I'm not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► that is that a picky you in detail like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► you're you're picking nits you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► need that that's not that's not a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► if anyone's ever used the Macintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► before he knows one menu bar at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► of the screen is not one in each window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and they're talking about round wrecks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► the story pulls from folklore org and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► for revolution in the very the valley of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► the book by Andy Hertzfeld it says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► is quote the dialog boxes and windows on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► the Lisa and Mac and almost every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► subsequent computer ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► rendered with rounded corners I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► like you now to pull up a dialog box on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► subsequent computer and tell me if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► dialog box has rounded corners actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► they started around some but in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► previous of iterations of Macintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► operating system in fact almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► previous iterations of the Mac operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► system dialog boxes did not have rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► corners I'm looking at one now I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► looked at the open dialog box in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► application the corners of it are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► rounded because I'm in Snow Leopard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► upper right and left corners are rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► but they weren't rounded in classic Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► OS that's just like take two seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► open a dialog box in the computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► you're writing this on Walter Isaacson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► and look at the corners and before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► making a sweeping statement about Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► Mac and every other subsequent computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► almost every other substituting computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► I have a Mac emulator that has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► Mac 128 emulation you can pull up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► dialog box in that not rounded Lisa I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► not sure about but it just its sloppy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► one point they talked about giving an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► original Mac to Andy Warhol or letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► him use one and Andy Warhol says I drew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► a circle Warhol exclaimed proudly after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► using quick-draw technically yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► is an instance where it nerd said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► quick-draw Andy Warhol but it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► it's not Warhol saying he use cooker the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► author is saying that Warhol exclaimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► this after using quick-draw he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► quick-draw not understanding what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► difference doing quick-draw resin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► McBaine you know uh Gates complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► about next Hardware saying the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► hardware is crap the optical disc has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► too low latency oh yeah is that what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► said he said he was worried that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► latency was too low on the optical disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► I have a feeling and this is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► this is what kills me right that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► quotes this machine is crap , he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► right so that part was in quote open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► quotes again the optical disk has too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► now it's a net-net once you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► you're like oh damn do I have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► suspicious of every single direct quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► in this book like did he not record it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► on a little portable tape recorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► remembering what people said or he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► down his notes with like a pencil or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► something when someone was talking so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► here's a case where he tends to just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► without explaining his terms at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► then at some point during next he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► here's a Walter Isaacson narrating what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► he was saying was that the real release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► of the machine that software common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► known as the 1.0 release comma would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► first of all releases of machines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► not really termed at 1.0 but he took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► time to try to explain what a 1.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► releases of all the things he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► explain in this book it explains so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► little but then every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► he'll feel like oh I better explain this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► term is this technical term but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► really a technical term maybe he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► just confused by it or and he gets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► wrong slightly Dicky okay here's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► that's a real burner the whole section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► about Mac os10 first of all he has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► idea why Mac os10 was significant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► almost talks about it almost almost not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► at all and he does talk about it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► gives the impression that Apple bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► next but then didn't use its operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► system so here's a quote ah here's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► he's trying to paraphrase what Gates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► says says the purchase of next gates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► argued did not really give Apple a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► operating system here's a direct quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► from gates Amelio paid a lot for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► and let's be frank the next OS was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► really used maybe gates did say that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► might have been referring to Rhapsody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► which didn't ship where they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► say everyone rewrite your things use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► nextstep api's all right and Alexson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► continues as an irony again instead the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► purchase ended up bringing avi to Manian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► who could help the existing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► operating system evolved so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► eventually incorporated the kernel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► the next technology that is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► technically muddled sentence as the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► know the impression that you might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► is the involve the Apple operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► system rather than using the one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► got from next one the reality is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► much the exact opposite they use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► next operating system and I'll by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► you know and and that it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► simulator like but if if you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► right the basic fact that Apple bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► next and basically that became the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► operating system you know he at all cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► he doesn't understand technology he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► didn't understand why they did an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► operating system why I was important why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► this move laid the foundation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► including iOS and all the other stuff he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► and just it just goes by in a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► after giving some a bunch of half-truths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► about it right and then it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► burns me he will make the same point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► over and over again sometimes the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► wrong point so much later in the book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► says he it's like a copy and paste he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► some critics including Bill Gates noted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► that Apple ended up not adopting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► entire next operating system technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► vaguely true I guess kind of all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► and he says there's some truth to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► because Apple decided not to leap into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► completely new system but instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► instead of all the existing one again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► you can see where he's getting that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► someone explained to him Rhapsody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► why they had to go with Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► instead but he took the wrong lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► from this he didn't understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► abandoning classic Mac OS and going with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► this new operating system and how is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► only thing that gave them any way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► move into the future with any of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► products here's more technical clueless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► on display talking about Bill Gates on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► the big screen and Mac world I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► was 1997 Isaacson narrating you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► expected and hoped that an athletic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► woman would suddenly come running down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► the aisle and vaporize the screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► with the well thrown through hammer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► screenshot Bill Gates live on video is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► screenshot actually no uh talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► the numeric read says the new Macintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► operating system comma capital o capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► S capital X yeah no space no spaces all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► right and then then he says which used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► some of the software that Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► bought from next three years I did use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► some of the software you think did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► use some maybe like anything software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► like is like flour and sugar like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► and the next stuff and some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► to produce application software from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► Mac but the focus on people at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► intersection of art and technology these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► included and it gives a big list and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► of the ones on the list is iPhoto to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► compete with Adobe Photoshop perhaps not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► maybe perhaps if you have ever launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► iPhoto and blur shop you might be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► to detect the difference in these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► applications and like you think where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► does that come from right I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► before I thought it came out there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► rumors of Apple making a Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► competitor and the thing that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► talking about was iPhoto but once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► see the reality of the program apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► not creating iPhoto to compete with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► Photoshop what planet do you on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► had been an early partner with arm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► chips using this architecture where in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► the original iPhone this is an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► of a hundred percent true sentence which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► nevertheless completely misses what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► important about arm or any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► history right Apple was an early partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► with arm and the chips using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► architecture were in the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► as a matter of fact Apple more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► co-founded arm in 1990 and was a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► investor in the company and the Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► used arm CPUs and eventually Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► divested from arm that's what you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► talk about it's like why did Apple think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► it should invest an arm you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► the Newton initiative why the thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► Newton was important I'll handheld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► mobile computing instead of desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► computing like it was the first run at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► trying to do what they did with iOS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► then the Apple eventually divested all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► its arm shares and abandoned it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► can say the same thing about Intel which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► also was an investor and I believe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► investor an arm and sort of got out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► that I think that the X scale business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► was with the arm thing it would anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► this whole movement of the PC makers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► trying to make a run at the portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► space a lot a lot of it involving arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► and similar companies and then deciding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► on oh we should really get at Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► deciding we're just going to go with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► know the atom processors and continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► evolve x86 and all Itanium thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► Apple saying then Newton things not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► working out and Steve Jobs killed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► we're not in that portable stage right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► and then they came back around they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► like alright now we're back you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► I know we sold alarm shares years ago at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► a pretty big profit I know we were an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► investor an arm and the co-founder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► the company and everything but we we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► rid of that but now but now we're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► like that arc of the PC maker trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► go mobile and say now forget it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► coming back around that's the story to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► talk about here instead of one set one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► technically correct but completely non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► about Apple and arm and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► whole thing just is not touched on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► discussed at all this I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► this is technically correct but at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► point in the book I was so angry that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► was like that was willing to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► entertain the notion that this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► the case at one point he writes Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► computers plural right hey Apple corpse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► I'm pretty sure he just got the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► the company wrong Apple computers I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► pretty sure the Apple Computer or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► Inc was never called Apple computers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► tried to look it up I couldn't find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► instance of Apple computers being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► official name of the company if it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► apologize this is one place I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► calling I know but the fact that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► willing to entertain the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► guy writing the official Steve Jobs bio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► does not know the name of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs co-founded I neither do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► his editors apparently and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► place bro Walter tries to demonstrate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► amazing technical knowledge a saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► that Apple secretly began planning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► add a Steve Jobs secretly began planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► to move Apple off of the motor-oil IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► PowerPC chip and to adopt instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► Intel's this would not be a simple task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► it was akin to writing a new operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► system is it is that what it's like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► that is it is it very similar to writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► a new operating system moving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► platform for one CPU to another I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► he wanted to show off his technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► chops I said look at me I know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► stuff I said how about similar not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► difficult tasks I will give him that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► that great writing you found another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► thing that's difficult it is akin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► pushing a large rock up a hill also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► difficult of John Rubinstein he says he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► eventually went to work for palm did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► was he like a janitor for them he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► went to work for Tom maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► helping out in the technology department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► or something it wasn't like their CEO or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► anything on him so that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► technical net picking now here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► editorializing editorializing was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► because this is what you were talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► me about a lot over the last two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► or so I'm starting to read the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► I'm like so how's it was this guy gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► be like is he gonna simply tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► events that happened and not sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► insert his own opinion on them is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► going to sort of you know I what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► going to be his editorial voice him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► himself you know obviously you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► voiced by who you choose to quote what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► you choose to emphasize and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► the jobs of any biographer right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► there is a question of whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► author himself is going to shove his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► opinion and a quickly became clear to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► but I didn't want this guy to put his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► opinion in because I thought his opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► was worthless because he knew nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► all right I'd rather have him carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► choose the opinions of others and laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► them out against each other which he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► poor job also but occasionally he throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► alright so here is a quoting Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► talking talked about Bill Gates bill is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► invented anything which is why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► he's more comfortable now in full-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► philanthropy than in technology job said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► unfairly hey that's it he's just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► characterize no gates no supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► no it's like in my personal opinion I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► the author on narrating job said comma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► unfair just lays it out there moves on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► right uh this is talking about jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► flash and allowing flash would it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► ported across platforms that meant you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► know lowest common denominator you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► applications that would use the unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► features of Apple's platform right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► so he quotes from Steve Jobs the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► bunch of stuff about this and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► editorializing talking about what job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► said on that he was right losing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► commoditized like HP and Dell machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► would have meant death for the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► suddenly Isaacson is qualified to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► supporting evidence of than just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► know by Fiat Apple would have been dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► if it had allowed flash on its thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► it would just would have been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► imminent death for the company you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► I'm not like oh I think he made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► right decision for these reasons or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► fits with Brett just it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► killed the company I'm alder Eisen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► so it's not like Walter Isaacson doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► know anything about anything he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► know something about writing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► think work for was a Time magazine for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► long time stuff like that so here is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► what seems like more detail than other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► topics probably because he knows more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► about it when there was a Fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► magazine piece published called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► trouble to Steve Jobs and Steve was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► cranky about it and of course I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► sin was in that world of magazines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► knows these people and stuff so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► actually has some insight into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► thing so he seems like he was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► excited to write about them the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► things and this is the last bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► Isaacson talking about him as the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► was being prepared Jobs invited summoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► fortune magazine editor Andy serwer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► to Cupertino to pressure him to spike it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► now if you do not work in the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► industry you may not know what spike it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► means do you know what this means I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► never heard that term you can guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► it means up from the context right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► but it's obviously a term of art he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► pressuring the author of magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► article to spike it spiking it is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► I think was newspaper or a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► when they would actually have a literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► spike like a big metal stick or poking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► up from like a wooden base or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► and when you weren't going to publish a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► story that you had printed out you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► take the the published story and you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► whack it down over the spike which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► punch a hole through the middle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► paper and you'd stack up the papers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► that's called spiking a story it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► term of art in the publishing industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► he has no problem throwing that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► he doesn't explain that at all he uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► terminology he's familiar with in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► industry that's really not that relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► he also had an instance of this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► I was just getting at the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► barrel and again I'm being cruel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► unfair but he did write ATM machine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► this book a lot of people think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► okay because people just call it ATM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► machine all the time attracting turnover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► last week they said an EMP pulse so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► know maybe that just happens that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► really affecting the book but does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► buzz does that bother you that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► it's a machine EMP pulse yeah yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► mean you know that that's I admit that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► me going a little bit too far but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► that's the mindset I'm in alright so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► next second I hold on before we before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► we do the next section let me yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► mean let me do a sponsor all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► simple real-time web analytics with heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► maps that's it that's all you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► know if you hear nothing else you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► heard enough but I will tell you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► little bit more they have real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► analytics they help you track who is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► your site and learn what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► in real time you don't have to wait an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► hour you don't have to wait a day you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► see it instantly but the coolest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► for me the coolest thing are these heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► maps they show a heat map overlay it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► your website that shows you where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► visitors are clicking the most on a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► page so that you can see if the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► effective you can change it based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► where people are going you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► drill down all of the sub pages it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► really really amazing and this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► is true this is real I will share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► something with you I got an email this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► morning and I'm going to I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► to excuse me to protect the innocent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► I will not identify the person that sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► me this email but this is a real email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► and this is the email holy crap that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► helpful product I signed up for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► just as you finished talking to Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► about it as soon as it loaded I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► seeing incoming traffic hitting dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► pages I realized in our last redesign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► our coder had missed a few redirects I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► have stats but it either wasn't showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► up or wasn't obvious to me lifesaver who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► knows how long I would have overlooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► it and he says they even maintained the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► 14-day free trial even though he already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► paid so they're not charging him for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► those two weeks so there is a 14-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► trial you can use a promo code 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► you'll get 10% off as long as you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► an active account that's so essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► forever so go check these guys out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► reinvigorate net I'm using them on 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► love this site you go to go sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► everybody sign up right now alright next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► section shallowness slash laziness ooh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► this sounds like already a pet peeve of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► yours know this I think this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► gets to the heart of what I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► about earlier in the summary thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► here is the author Isaacson talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► about a particular thing that Jobs does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► on occasion this would backfire such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► when Jobs and I've insisted on using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► solid piece at a brushed aluminum for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► the edge of the iPhone 4 even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► compromise the antenna that is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► that one said he talks a lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► press conference about a sodding headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► the message but the actual facts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► antenna gate case he I mean that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► engineers worried that it can compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► determined that engineers worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► this before the iPhone 4s waste that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► it antenna gate you know whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► whatever you would think the guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► information than you then could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► gleaned by simply watching the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► conference do you think do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► though that there was there were certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► things that because and maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► going to be your your final pointed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► was going to take place perhaps at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► very end of of this tirade and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► forgive me if I'm jumping ahead in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► way but do you think that Isaacson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► lack of understanding about the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► and about what was really going on from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► the technology perspective is is why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► didn't think of course I want to explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► this issue in more detail or or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► think that for him going into this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► of thing was an afterthought and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► trying to focus on other things or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► things that he could comprehend I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► laziness I think he this is a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► where he didn't know a lot about it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► learn about it he would need to research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► information can know whether this was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► important thing or not and it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► if he said well I shouldn't talk about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► could talk about Steve Jobs himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► because this is the bio I shouldn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► about the sort of events of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► and business things he spent so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► time talking about at one point I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► is this a Steve Jobs bio is this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► a history of Apple right he spent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► much time talking about the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► the politics of the company and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► industry our jobs was barely even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► featured so that's not an excuse like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► he did he wanted to focus on jobs but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► think these particular things to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► facts of endemic tenha gate right - like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► really investigate and talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► people involved and just really nail it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► down is illuminating to the character of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► Steve Jobs because without the facts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► can't know like was Jobs 100% right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► was completely overblown or was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► partially of his own doing how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► warning did he have was it you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► lets you understand the context of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► press conference does this reveal jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► you know like the bad jobs that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► seen all the other parts of the book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► is this a case where jobs was really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► the right and was wrong then this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► say this would explain why he has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► attitude in other situations because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► he's been so wrong but without the facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► of what antenna gate was really about we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► don't know what what jobs did what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► that say about him because we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► the context to understand his actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► right let me give you owned here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► I do I would want to get to these next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► two sections Apple license the arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► architecture and it also put 150 person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► microprocessor design firm Palo Alto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► called PA semi that had created a custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► system on a chip called the a4 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► based on the ARM architecture blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► blah now he says he says that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► bought PA semi and they built the a4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► both of which I'm willing to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► although I'm slightly dubious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► whether what PA semi actually did for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► the a4 because was made out of parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► done elsewhere and Samsung's hummingbird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► chip is available for other people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► buy so it doesn't seem like Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► have designed their I he doesn't go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► information I'm not sure but I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► accept that but my impression is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► bought PA semi not to make the a4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► because they bought a long before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► but to do something else to make PowerPC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► chips for them and how do the people PA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► semi feel about being bought and how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► the Intel switch affect them and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► that stuff that's just not gone into in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► this book or just glossed over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► that's an interesting thing that we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► know we were said why did they buy PA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► semi house that worked out has it been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► good purchase to the PA so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► great what were they originally hired to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► do how many have left if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► talk about that aspect of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► right no no detail there lots of detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► about the intricacies of making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► original Macintosh who was doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► part of the board and which floppy drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► was being selecting you know what his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► detailed map is he didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► revolution in the varying in folklore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► org and all the other books that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► been up you know he didn't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► that hard work so he you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► all he didn't want to go into his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► details it's not interesting he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► to a tremendous detail about tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► technical aspects of the Mac because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► didn't have to do the research himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► because it was just there for him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► summarize and copy and paste Hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► the App Store Policies and not allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► stuff as this cording Steve Jobs an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► email you might care more about porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► when you have kids Jobs replied it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► about freedom it's about Apple trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► do the right things for its user at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► end is Isaacson at the end he added is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► zinger Steve Jobs quoting again by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► way what have you done that's so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► criticize others works and belittle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► their motivations and then he says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► some other CEO was admitted to being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► pressed rare as a CEO who will spar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► one-on-one with customers and bloggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► like this he wrote Jobs deserves big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► credit for breaking through the mold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► the typical American executive I ain't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► on it and the guy says about jobs he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► willing to defend his ideas in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► agreed according to Isaacson all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► so we're all familiar with this exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► is probably recent memory when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► I says Jobs was proud as well and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► forwarded exchanged but with tape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► some of the kudos on to me me saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► Isaacson this exchange would be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► example of where you could dig into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► Steve Jobs as character instead he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► says he quotes another CEO who says boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► look at this guy's look at the Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► Jobs is any great and he says it's job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► sent stuff on to him all right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► what you're praising this this on by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► way what are you doing it's so great do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► your create anything that is a textbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► ad hominem fallacy textbook textbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► like a person and I will read from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► the million webpages you can fight on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► the ad hominem fallacy to be best-known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► logical fallacy on the internet for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► good reason these steps are basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► person a makes claim X person B makes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► attack on person a therefore A's claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► is false this is this is what he did so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► I like sin just lets that fly why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► wouldn't you talking to Steve Jobs say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► you do realize that you know but ask him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► why does he think it was compelling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► him to attack the person what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► done this so great that doesn't address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► the person's point at all the person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► point could be valid or invalid about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► you know whether it's good to keep stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► out of dashlet but that attack doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► Steve Jobs is a smart person don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► say oh another CEOs thought he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► feisty call him in it so you can undress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► to get his personality and say does he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► does he not realize that that's odd that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► that's not you know about it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► two-year-old's argument ask him do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► think that's a valid argument do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► just do that to make yourself feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► better he gets into this a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► over so many instances like this where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► he's talking to the man he's sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► there in the room with Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► talking about this instance and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► never like never tries to address jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► as an adult and talk about what just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► happened it just makes him makes him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► look like a yes-man you know like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► yeah you know right all the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs did but he will he will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► not like if he was in the road with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► Barbara Walters or Charlie Rose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► would expect some good interviewer to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► not let that go by just use this as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► opportunity to I'm not saying like yell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► at him about it or anything but like ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► him pointed questions and let his answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► stand on their own but but don't let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► just push it under the carpet and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► and see bloggers and this other CEO and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► I really loved it aren't I great fun at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► sincere the iPod Nano for example was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► prone to getting scratched because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► believed that a clear coating would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► lessen the purity of his design again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► another instance of a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► there was some sort of Apple problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► everyone speculated was it something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► that didn't catch in time or was delayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► they insisted it have this coating cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► it looked better apparently saying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► insisted they have this coating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► this would be a perfect case where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► could talk to I've in this case and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► well how do you feel about that the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► that sometimes you you and Jobs push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► through decisions to end up being bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► for the company and what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► learned from the experience nope just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► one sentence we're not going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► about not going to investigate not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► to ask people to reflect on these types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► of decisions just going to lay it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► there say it is an event that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► the one piece of information he's adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► is that I have apparently knew there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► a problem because and and set and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► want to change it because it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► lessen the period he was on how did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► feel when they had to change it did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► feel that his design was less pure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► you know nothing no investigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► shallowness and laziness so here's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► of my favorite good sections of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► this is the part where new information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► is being imparted assuming we can trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► this new information because at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► point I'm still like dubious that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► will that I agree and I believe every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► one of these quotes is real and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► he's accurately reporting stuff if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► you're looking for a if you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► for a reason to read this book here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► think so I'm just going to tell it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► you now anyway so you don't have to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► this section I call Steve Jobs enemy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► and I believe I touched on this a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► time ago and he retired when I was talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► about the whole thing like we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► what Steve Jobs does because we just we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► know that he's sort of in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► everything but we know he can't possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► make every decision so I believe in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► show maybe I'm misremembering what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► something the effect that if you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► decision and like Steve Jobs you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► think that it was his decision if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► don't like a decision and don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► Steve Jobs you think he was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► pushing it and you know like since we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► don't know what he actually does you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► likely to declare like you know this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► a great thing as Steve Jobs must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► been the only reason it happened or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► is something horrible and it's Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► Jobs must be designed incision behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► this decision I was saying since we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► don't know what he actually does we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► don't know these details inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► company for all we know the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► you hate Steve Jobs also hated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► argued against it or maybe the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► that you loved and thought was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► he was also arguing against and said we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► shouldn't do it and someone else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► know was able to convince him otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► so there are actual examples of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► happening in the book I really hope I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► not mister remembering my brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► predictions but actually I hope that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► am remembering them correctly but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► here's a here's some examples ah Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► Jobs was against iPods for Windows users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► and one is from the book Isaacson saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► at one point he declared that Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► users would get to use iPods over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► the over my dead bodies and quotes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► lieutenants were constantly trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► get minson we need to put hype on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► Windows we need to put iPod on Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► and it eventually heats job said screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► it I'm sick of listening to you a-holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► go do whatever the hell you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► don't have to bleep out a-holes right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► know it doesn't didn't save you've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► care of it all right and then and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3954">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► interesting point on this is the later a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► similar topic comes up and this is Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► a quote from Steve Jobs saying we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► iTunes on Windows in order to sell more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► iPods but I don't see an advantage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► putting our music app on Android except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► to make Android users happy and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► want to make Android users happy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► here's an example where he didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► to put if gives anyone think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► iPod didn't go to Windows the iPod of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► would have been the iPod because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► not as if Mac market share has rocketed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► up to 95 percent since that decision was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► made right and it's not as if the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► effect would have brought it there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► like well we got to keep the iPod on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► we'll help some more max right if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► iPod hadn't gone to Windows Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► probably wouldn't even be the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► today Steve Jobs was so far against that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► he said it was gonna happen over my dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► body and was even when he you know gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► in to it to his credit he was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► the constant badgering of every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► other high-level executive in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► company made him throw his old tantrums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► i whatever i'm ii listen you do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► you want right so cranky and tantra me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► that's Steve Jobs enemy of success next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► example the iPod mini most people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► tech industry were sort of puzzling over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► the iPad Mini was introduced because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► that point the iPod Classic the what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► mine now knows the iPod classes but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► with just the iPod right thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► big click wheel the full-size thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► $299 and it held 15 gigabytes and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► along comes Apple and introduced a $249 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► device only $50 cheaper but it holds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► four gigabytes so for $50 more you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► get more than you know three times as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► much storage and people say who in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► world is ever going to buy an iPod mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► you're going to cut my storage but down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► in you know to a third of what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► less than a third what it was before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► just say 50 bucks I'll just pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► extra 50 bucks and get the regular iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► this iPod many things going nowhere do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► I shared a lot folks sure do it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► Steve Jobs said exactly the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► is it I want this is a quote from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► book at one point Jobs decided to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► the iPod mini not seeing what anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► would want to pay the same for less see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► you know it because how this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► brilliance of Jobs he knew that the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► mini would be said no he wanted to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► it you want to kill the product before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► was released cuz like I don't see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► anyone would want to pay that much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► of hurt you get so much less with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► but this thing all right Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► enemy of success but as we as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► that the iPod mini went on to become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► fart by far the best filling iPod to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► overwhelming sales of the traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► iPod because I had $50 and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► it came in colors and the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► was smaller combined to make this a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► more compelling product for consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► and again I could say to Jobs credit he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► didn't follow through with that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► convinced by his other people that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► should actually really sat but then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► turned out great but this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► stabbing in the heart the notion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► knows exactly what's going on and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► responsible for Apple success Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► was against the App Store there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► lot of speculation about this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► originally the iPhone is introduced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► said you can you write web apps it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4138">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► great solution it's a sweet solution for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► making application of this thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► don't want you to write native apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► right you just screw things up do web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► apps right and then the SDK came out six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► months eight months whatever later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► they must have been planning us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► along and they didn't have already or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► whatever so according to this book as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► from the book when the iPhone first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► out in early 2007 there were no apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► could buy from outside developers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► Jobs initially resisted allowing them he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► applications for the iPhone that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► mess it up in fact it was viruses are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► polluted sin tegrity right so he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► think the App Store was a good idea had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► to be convinced of that launch the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► without it they were probably people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► sort of in the same situation with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► floppy drive in the Mac probably people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► who disagree with him who were laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► the groundwork for it so that when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► starting from zero right but the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► does not investigate that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► give up anything else we have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► stuff up like probably that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► that would have been a great parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► you but again he stole that research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► from the floppy drive from other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► he didn't bother do any investigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► well what was the deal with that Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► Forstall were you already having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► people work on an SDK did you how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► you convince him that you should have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► SDK err you know nothing doesn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► get that at all like the sentence I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► you is basically the extent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► detail in that particular event that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► my jobs any enemy of success okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► that's that that section sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► there might be more sections yeah how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► many more do you have because we're 72 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► minutes in I know I know but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► get it into one show all into one show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► yeah I don't know how much time do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► have I have time today so I don't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► have I want to do it but I want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► it it I don't want to rush it I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► know I've I'm saying make this two-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► show I have no problem with that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► can't make it I can't make it to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► what is your deadline well we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► hitting it all right well if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► stop you just wanna you would just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► to vilify me and make it my fault I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► don't want to stop but I wasn't prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4254">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► oh we got 50 more minutes right 15 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► sure but I don't want you to feel rushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► I would rather make this a twofer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► know make it make it a two part show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► come back and do the next show do two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► episodes next week do a three episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► next week two episodes next week dad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► don't want you to be rushed but it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► have so much more on this I'm not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► for two our show today I didn't get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► notice it of me to our show I'd love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► yeah I know I thought I could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► through this all in one show but um er [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► how far you are you halfway halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► pretty much so I would rather give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► you know another full hour hour and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► half and then make it not feel rush get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► a special you know do a special bonus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► show because I love that I could listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► this all day all right we will stop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► jobs enemy of success and continue can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► you give some teasers as to what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► will be coming up in the bonus show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► have a little tiny bit on jobs a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► watcher on things that find jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► success his ethos emotional jobs jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► and politics have jobs in the cloud a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► bunch about his family future directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► jobs his personality that's what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► left those the section headings it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► good stuff so we will do that next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► so I bet this also means that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► listen to all the other shows still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► the topic until we get through next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► week's show but such is life mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► that's it I think for this week go wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► wrap it up then mm-hmm I wish you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► done at all you can wrap it up I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► know now I feel now I feel bad Jim feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► bad we get you know I don't want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► it say that yeah it's it's two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► with material I guess this is but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► problem is this is gonna generate so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► many people saying you need you need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► need to give John Syracuse as much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► we all have schedules this is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► hour-and-a-half show yeah I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► weather that storm damn it's your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► can handle I'm just not gonna read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► email for a week not too many people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► play they know next week we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► talking about this unless something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► really dramatic happens guys talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► guns that you know if every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► episode of John circuses favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► television show the Fringe ended with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► absolute conclusion would you even tune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► in next week I say no this is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► bit of a cliffhanger will will they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► able to capture the same feeling will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► the Mojo's still be there will will John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► still be on a roll yeah of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► will listen else I'll still be angry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► course you will you'll be out probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► anger than ever I'm doing this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► so we'll we'll end this one so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► what you do you go to twitter.com slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► siracusa s IRAC u.s.a just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplN7GcE/4441">TS</a>]
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