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40: When The Hobby Light Goes Off

 

00:00:02   this is hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   a weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   what is wrong in the world of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/6">TS</a>]

00:00:07   related technologies and businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09   nothing is so perfect that it can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12   complained about show is hosted by John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   siracusa and by me I'm Dan benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   today is october 28th 2011 this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21   episode number 40 we would like to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/21">TS</a>]

00:00:25   thanks to our two sponsors today tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   letter dot-com and squarespace.com will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/28">TS</a>]

00:00:32   tell you more about those as the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   goes on hey John how you doing this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/34">TS</a>]

00:00:38   pretty good I'm bummed that our guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/38">TS</a>]

00:00:42   isn't here yeah we you had do we even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   want to talk do we want to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/45">TS</a>]

00:00:46   or no II just I we were supposed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49   a guest we're gonna have a spent very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/49">TS</a>]

00:00:50   special very special guest very special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   he's not here we waited we waited a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/53">TS</a>]

00:00:57   little while and he didn't he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   show up yeah maybe he got timezones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   confused to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   who knows how hopefully you know now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   so now I'm starting to worry now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   just now I just hope he's all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   that's all sleep well if that's all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   is then that's uh that's merely rude and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   then being injured or something would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   not be good we'll see anyway I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   prepared to do a show with guest today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   so all my notes that I'm looking at are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   all about things that we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   discussed with the guests but I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   enough be sure in the back of my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   yeah guy added I added links all week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   long gonna add links to the to the note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   I know I moved a bunch of them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   before the show because I thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   were the ones that weren't relevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   the guests but as your hero c-3po says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   how rude I saved them I non-tech delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46   move them out on my own little file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   move them out you know I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   that means well you know I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   want to lose the the urls right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   just copy and paste them into another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   document so I can add them back next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   week okay but no you know what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/118">TS</a>]

00:02:02   listening to the other shows this week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   was thinking more there's a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   I want to talk about but we've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   guest I was like I'll just save it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   next week but now I guess we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   chance to talk about it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   so the ones I wanted to talk about were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/131">TS</a>]

00:02:15   and you can pick we can talk about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   and TV stuff for the umpteenth time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   we can talk about the Steve Jobs bio I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/138">TS</a>]

00:02:26   have not completed reading the Bible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   neither of I so I and John Gruber on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33   show on the talk show has essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/153">TS</a>]

00:02:37   said that he would like to you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   he doesn't want to talk about until he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/160">TS</a>]

00:02:41   completed it I kind of feel the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   I feel like unless and until we've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/164">TS</a>]

00:02:48   it and maybe given the audience a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   to read it also because the book is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   most people especially if you ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   the hardcover book which of course I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   and I haven't I haven't I know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   people like our mutual friend Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   Snell you know he got the Kindle edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   so he could start reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   instantaneously that the moment it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   released on the 24th which was Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   and and and then of course ordered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   hardcover so he could switch to that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   did not do that is that what you did or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   do you have the hardcover just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   digital I haven't been reading paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/198">TS</a>]

00:03:19   books since like 2002 sorry I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   digital version so you want to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/202">TS</a>]

00:03:26   until everybody has finished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   that's all I feel like I feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   have to I feel like we need to get least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   give him a chance you know and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   then even after they're done even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   their people are like I don't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   chance I'm ready right now well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38   fine let it gel in your mind then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   consider this to be an incubation period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   for you to form your opinions of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/222">TS</a>]

00:03:46   by then like all the other shows may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   have talked about the book and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   is bored of it by the time we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   next Friday but I will have my say-so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   well perhaps what I could do is I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   have I and I I've you know I have to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   this by the other guys but maybe I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   do a show where we all talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   where it's just a a special show we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   all come together talk about it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   scheduling logistics of that are easy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   just do it on Friday when you're sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   sitting at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   well if they all want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   although there could be a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   talking about it anyway so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14   means you want to talk about Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   today instead I think we have two all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   right well actually I should go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   only pull up my my larger notes file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   look to see if we have any follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   because I had excised all the follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24   to because we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25   that I wanna you know waste time doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   yeah follow up mm-hmm we have and follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/267">TS</a>]

00:04:32   up not much stuff actually I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/272">TS</a>]

00:04:39   something that I didn't investigate much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   but someone sent along I'll put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   show notes was a remember we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   about iCloud a couple weeks ago when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   was talking about the philosophy that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/288">TS</a>]

00:04:49   was surmising that I kept my cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   philosophy that I was sort of inferring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   from the things I knew about it a things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   said at WWDC it's not like a stated goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   of Apple as far as I know but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   looking at how the API works and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02   differs from MobileMe I was saying how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   they don't want it to be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   MobileMe syncing where you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   resolving conflicts and that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   infrastructure they just want to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   bother you with as many questions as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14   possible and just keep multiple versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   and if they make the wrong choice on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   your behalf at least you can rewind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   go back to the previous version so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   someone sent me a screenshot of pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/322">TS</a>]

00:05:26   running on the iPad and unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   it's French so I don't know exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   the dialogues say but it shows the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/331">TS</a>]

00:05:35   guess it's the Pages document screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36   haven't tried pages on the iPads I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   know what screen this is and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   the screen behind it shows a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   pages documents and a bunch of pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   folders where it shows like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45   little squares inside of a bigger square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   kind of like the folders on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   springboard screen in front of it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   modal dialog box that's asking you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   resolve a conflict and it shows two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56   choices with like dates under them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/356">TS</a>]

00:06:00   it says something about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   modifications are not synchronized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   choose the document that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   save this is me translating from my high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   school French right you know share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10   someone else going to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   screenshot now I'll paste into the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   room so people can take a look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   themselves so here is an actual dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   box prompting you to you know which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   of these documents do you want to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   now I don't know how this thing occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24   and it seems like it's a dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28   produced by the pages application unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   say MobileMe where there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31   system-wide conflict resolution thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/391">TS</a>]

00:06:35   that would be launched by the the sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   services process so presumably this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:39   it individual applications can provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42   like if they call the cloud api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   they find their about the pull document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   that's newer than the one you have but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   the one that you have has been modified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   since it was last synchronized maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   it'll pop up this document so I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   tell if that's like you know the an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   expected part of an iCloud application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   or just an individual choice that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   pages developers made regarding iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   but anyway it's the first time I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   seen in practice or in screenshot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/423">TS</a>]

00:07:07   conflict resolution dialog for iCloud so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   apparently they are not totally gone see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/429">TS</a>]

00:07:15   what else we have for follow up I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/435">TS</a>]

00:07:19   actually have follow up on Apple TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   that's going to be our topic tonight so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/440">TS</a>]

00:07:21   we won't need to talk about that mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/441">TS</a>]

00:07:28   yeah I don't want to talk more about flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   stuff and then we did that we continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/450">TS</a>]

00:07:34   to get a lot of commentary out through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   stuff right out of flu it is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   with it with the flu stuff that be met a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   problem I think there there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/460">TS</a>]

00:07:45   what I and many other people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   consider crazy opinions about vaccines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51   in particular and medicine out there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   the net right I mean we've all read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   sorts of things but I even just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   for people follow us politics with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   Michelle Bachman and the HPV vaccine all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   that business and then there's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   vaccine I don't know what you call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   other people like Jenny McCarthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   stuff I think the vaccines are harmful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   to our children and the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   shouldn't be forcing us to have let that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10   that whole thing right and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   you know in between and in the extremes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   of that on the internet so now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   whenever anyone discusses anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   touches on one of those issues it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/499">TS</a>]

00:08:23   for the people listening to imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   what they're hearing is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   crazy opinions because those crazy pains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   do you know they get people worked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   right yeah and so if you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   something else like you're just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   about shoes people and say you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   something that could conceivably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   misinterpreted to mean that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42   shoes are magic and help you levitate if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   they're brown but only if you wear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   on Wednesdays no one is going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   that jump to that conclusion because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   it's ridiculous right huh but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   it was a big meme on the internet about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   brown shoes letting you levitate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55   Wednesdays and it was just everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   and you kept telling people look brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   shoes don't let you levitate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   Wednesdays people your your hunk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   know this makes no sense they don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   you levitate like oh it's a government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   conspiracy they do let you levitate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   that's why they won't let you wear brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   shoes you know if that was a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   on the internet it would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   difficult to discuss shoes without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   somebody saying wait are you saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   brown shoes help you levitate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   Wednesdays because it's a thing they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   heard elsewhere right so I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   problem with talking about the flu stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   is that no matter what we say on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   topic someone will assume that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   they're hearing is one of those crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   things that they've heard uh and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   reverse is also true if I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   talk about vaccines which I won't uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   other than the flu shot apparently uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   people who are like you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/581">TS</a>]

00:09:45   Jenny McCarthy anti vaccine camp would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/585">TS</a>]

00:09:49   probably jump on me and tell me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   crazy in blah blah blah because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   agree with them right and if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   happened if we got a bunch of reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   mail from people who are like anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   vaccine I'll be ok with that I'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   you know I feel like yeah that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   expect to get because I actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   disagree with their position and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   know so I would just accept that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   instead what we getting in the flu shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   stuff are angry emails from people who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/609">TS</a>]

00:10:13   agree with who think what I'm saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   something they don't agree with I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   think it's a possible for me to resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   that so I'm gonna say to all you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   out there who believe in science and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   medicine I agree with you so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/623">TS</a>]

00:10:28   stop in telling me and and and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   that I might if I accidentally implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   we said something that made you think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   don't that was a mistake I'm sorry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   I implied that I'm if I'm if I misspoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   if I said something I do think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   don't I agree with you for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   who are on the opposite side I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   disagree with you and you continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   send me angry email if you want but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   really have been getting that so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   that's what that's the I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   discuss the substance I don't think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   two shows words enough would be the meta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   issue here is once some topic gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/655">TS</a>]

00:11:00   enough extreme opinions on both sides of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/660">TS</a>]

00:11:04   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   even the people you agree with will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   inclined to jump on you if they if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/668">TS</a>]

00:11:12   seems like you are not very accurately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/672">TS</a>]

00:11:17   and adamantly and completely denying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   extreme points of view so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   what's been happening with the flu issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   flu shot thing which I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   discuss further but I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   discuss this larger issue I'm just glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:30   you got your flu shot I have still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   haven't got mine I bet usually I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   mine through work and they send out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   little thing as hey we're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   flu shots sign up Bob and they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   sent out their thing yet this year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   looked through the past years like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   have they done this they've done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42   pretty late and past year so maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43   just haven't gotten to it yet but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   family's gotten them I'm just glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   haven't got your flu shots relieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   that's a bummer sent now you should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   the angry email all right Apple TV Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/713">TS</a>]

00:11:59   TV so recently in the news as a result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/719">TS</a>]

00:12:04   of this book coming out you have a Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08   Jobs quote that I read we read this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   one of the other shows the interview was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:15   talking to Steve Jobs about television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/735">TS</a>]

00:12:19   DTV and the quote was something like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/739">TS</a>]

00:12:23   finally cracked it in reference to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/743">TS</a>]

00:12:27   to create the ultimate Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   experience that yeah Steve Jobs has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   it he has cracked it and of course this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   I don't know when the date of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   particular interview where he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   was because this book is a collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   something like 30 40 interviews over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   years so we don't I personally I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   know do you know when that quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   actually was like dated whether that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51   it a month before he passed or or a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/771">TS</a>]

00:12:55   do we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/775">TS</a>]

00:12:55   no and that's another complaint I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   have about the book if we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   discussing the book which or not but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/778">TS</a>]

00:12:59   there was not not good footnotes and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/779">TS</a>]

00:13:02   good citations to be able to he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   obviously didn't back so I did not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   markdown either as I probably know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   footnotes very easy yeah so the quote I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/788">TS</a>]

00:13:13   actually pulled out I just pulled this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   from our webpage not from the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   itself but I assume it is accurate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   don't know why P [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/799">TS</a>]

00:13:19   miscalled the book this is a steve job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   speaking it says i'd like to create an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   integrated television set that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   completely easy to use it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   seamlessly synced with all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/807">TS</a>]

00:13:28   devices and with iCloud so presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   that quote comes from after the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   when iCloud was public I guess because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   why would he tell his biographer maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   he would tell his biographer if iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   was uh still in the work you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42   hadn't been announced yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   what he told his biographer guy what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   mentioned I got but so that Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   saying that they won't approaches so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/827">TS</a>]

00:13:53   Marco talked about it a lot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   Gruber sort of replied to what market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   was saying and a lot of the issue this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/836">TS</a>]

00:14:00   two parts the issue one it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   discussing is Apple going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   television set which is what the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   hot rumor stuff for the past month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   two has been like an actual TV set or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   are they going to continue to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   thing that you attach to the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   and the second issue is regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/854">TS</a>]

00:14:17   which one of those things they do what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   the point like what does this thing do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   for you ah how they going to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   content like why how is it going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   different than right presumably Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26   not going to make a television that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   exactly like you know Samsung or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/867">TS</a>]

00:14:31   Panasonic television so they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32   do something with it right and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   presumably something different in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   way than the current Apple TV they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   going to be applications is just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   to be like the current Apple TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   faster with more content deals and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   you know all sorts of speculation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   that and I don't know if I ever discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   this but Marco went over most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   points about why Apple would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   not be interested in making a television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   set let's summarize what he said is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   you know people don't buy Dell vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   sets that often because they're big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   expensive purchases a lot of people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   just bought a television set because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   know that converting from non HD HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   television sets and the Apple TV didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10   have a lot of penetration when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   like 400 bucks probably dropped it to 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   it really started to take off so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   Apple seems to be on the hey you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   can get some traction if we make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/917">TS</a>]

00:15:18   thing cheap all those are reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   they wouldn't wanna make an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   television set though and to that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   would add that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:29   really doesn't have much to add to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   set television set part anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   would be like well you know they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   they don't make this stuff anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   license all this all the screens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   licensed or some other manufacturer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   presumably they'd have to license their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   television innards from you know who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   like they buy the iPad screens from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   think LG or you know I don't know who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   don't know makes their screens for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   their stuff but someone else make Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   doesn't make these the Apple design you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   design them they design the cases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   often oftentimes they design the circuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   boards and even perhaps the analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   circuitry that goes inside them but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   actual LCD panels are plasma or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/958">TS</a>]

00:16:02   they were use for a TV come from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03   company and most of those companies make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/963">TS</a>]

00:16:06   television set so LG makes television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   sets I don't know if LG makes pcs maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   they do but it's kind of all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   relationships where if you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   from Sam so they have the same image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   situation with Samsung they buy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   the systems on chips from Samsung that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   used to buy memory from Samsung you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   flash memory and RAM chips and all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   and stuff like that but Samsung will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   also makes phones that compete with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   Apple's phones but it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   situation with television you'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   well you know you weren't you got to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   your panels from somebody and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   package them up and you sell them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   televisions but really Samsung is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/995">TS</a>]

00:16:39   to be making more money by selling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   television set itself than Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   presumably if they were just competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   on like just like making actual plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   old television set with a tuner and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   know special sauce or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:49   because Samsung is going to give Apple a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   higher price than it gives itself when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   it makes its own television sets so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   seems like that would be something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   Apple but only add if they thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   couldn't do the product without like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   there was some compelling reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   them to do it because it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   they're without by making the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   set will make so much more money rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   than just making the box because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   you can get more margins on the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   putting that big expensive item in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   the big expensive item that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   going to have lower margins on then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   Samsung talked about the panel itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   Samsung will have lower margins on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   panels higher margins in its panels then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   you will because Samsung is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25   charge you more and then it charges its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   own TV makers so there have to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   reason to put it in there and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   what's this person's name I could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   its splat F com splat is Z glad F the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   the slang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   this person's slang name for the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   key symbol I was used to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   squiggly when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   but splat squiggly except Thomas we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   all different were amenable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   everything yes so this is Dan Romer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   ER who has recently gone off on his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   and made his own site and this is SPLA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   TF comm he did an article that I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1076">TS</a>]

00:18:00   had been thinking about for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   like you know well people keep talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04   about a television set but no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   done no one has done an article that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   says why would they make a TV instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   a little box we did an entire article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   it's just about oh the reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13   Apple might make a actual television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   instead of just a box I don't think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   trying to say this is what they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   to do or these reasons are so compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   that they're they're certain to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   but the rumors the rumors are like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   we have a rumors of an Apple television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   and you know kind of like we got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:27   those rumors about the the wedge-shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   larger iPhone there's just so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   those at a certain point I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33   what's going to happen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   everybody's saying it they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   case it's going to be a wedge-shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36   iPhone and you know not so much right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   well the Apple television set rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   have been around got in a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   cycles I think last year year before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   that it these these Apple television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   things come around some you'll see one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   pundit will put something up and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   I've got inside info and I'm absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   certain that Apple's making the TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   then maybe it'll get a little momentum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   and then the event will come and go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   there's no TV and people forget about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57   and that recycles every couple years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   we're in another one of those upswing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   cycles where people are reporting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01   they have inside information that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   is going to make a television this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   compounded by the quotes we just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   about from the the biography where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   like I finally cracked it I figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   this TV thing you know and the quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   that I just read which was like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   integrated television set this is Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   Jobs words when he says television said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   he was an older person he means an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   actual TV he doesn't if you meant a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   little box like Apple TV you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   said that he's using language that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   an actual television so Dan farmers set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:31   of reasons why they might actually make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   a whole TV and and they're more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   the reasons I was thinking I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   nice to have someone lay them out I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   the fact that he laid them out not as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   not trying to convince anybody he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44   like you know let's put two columns here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   reasons they would make a TV reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   they wouldn't and he's filling in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48   column of reasons they would and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49   his reasons I think are good so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   first one is that I'll just read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   headings and summarizes that Apple sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   complete experiences not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   Isis right now this is kind of a weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:02   reason because everything he's got in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03   there you can say well that build and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   why did they ever sell the Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   you've it you know you want to just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   one one thing one widget not a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   things that you plug together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   something that attaches to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   else that's not made by them a parolee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   wants to have the entire experience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   watching television you know be seamless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:21   and having to attach something to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   existing thing through some cable make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   sure you have the adapter and find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   place to plug it in now you got a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   remote and stuff that's not the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   but you know on the foot on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   column of that you know they've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   Apple TV which is exactly like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   clearly they're not going to not to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   that they've shown that they'll do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   other way the next one is that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   wants to be the primary interface so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   he's going through you know the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   Apple TV is like input to on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   television you know to to make it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   you've got to hit the input button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   your television remote and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   television remote did not come to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   from Apple it's from whatever company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   makes your television or maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   universe or remote that you bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56   yourself and you switch the input to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   tell your big monitor TV screen things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   switch to this input and this input is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   the Apple TV an Apple TV with apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   eyes they want that to be input too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   because right now most people for input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   one it's your cable box or satellite box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   or whatever your quote-unquote normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   television is assuming you still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:15   cable or satellite subscription which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16   most people do the vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   people when they turn on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   television the default the input number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   one is their satellite box and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   on some other input that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   it says I left it on the blu-ray player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   input so switch it back to normal TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   that's what they mean by that well Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:30   wants you to turn on the thing and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   it be the Apple interface right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:37   right so that's you know one remote is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   just the Apple remote and you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   well what if I just took my Apple TV on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   input one isn't that the same thing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43   no they want they want to change what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   the default is where when you watch TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48   quote-unquote you're watching at you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   in an Apple experience and only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   other things like oh now I wanna watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   blueberry I'll switch it to that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   they would hope that you would I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   it get rid of your cable or subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   or have it as an alternate thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   whatever and you can only really do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   like B or eat what he calls input 0 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   you make the television set because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   all that stuff is built in it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   something else plugged in right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   can just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   are coded as you know input zero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   your thing because I guess Ethernet will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   go into the back or whatever but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   not an input like HDMI so you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   you could have another HDMI input maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   for your cable box and stuff but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   Apple TV would be in the TV and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   turn on that's what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   Apple cells tightly integrated hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   software and services so this goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:33   talks a little bit about Siri thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   which has been another rumor and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   talked about many many shows ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   that's been picking up speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:38   where people are talking and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   about how Syria might work with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   television and getting to some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   same issues we discussed about alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   well how do i how do i make myself heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   well i'm sitting on the couch to the tvs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   way across they are talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   microphone and what about like FaceTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   is there going to be a camera am i going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   to take a little eyesight type camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   and plug it into the back of a TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   put it on top and then have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59   microphone or another wire that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00   very on Apple like what's Apple like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   you know like an iMac or Apple Cinema [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   Display with mics built-in the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   built-in it's an HD camera you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08   that's what you would expect from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   Apple television experience all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   stuff would be built in you'd be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   sit on your couch with your Apple remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   and do whatever it is you need to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   be able to like FaceTime chat with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:18   people however they have to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:19   work is it a Bluetooth mic that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   stick somewhere in the room is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   directional mic that points that you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   follows you wherever you are does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   camera move is camera build it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   but it's integrated experience like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   their monitors and like the IMAX are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   a bunch of dongles because you do start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   to have to have a bunch of dongles like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36   kind of like the Wii with the sensor bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   on top and or the connect with another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   box that you put a lot of wires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   boxes and sensors to try to make what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:44   imagine to be the potential Siri Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   evey experience to get out to work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:52   that the next bit is that despite what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55   said about Apple not getting having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:59   big panel added to your television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   having that not add to your your margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:06   in itself because once you add the panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   you have to pay for the panel from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   vendor and you can only put you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   certain amount of margin on top of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   panel to make up the money that you lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   by giving Samsung or LG or whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   profit they got right but the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   of that coin is that by making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   device much more expensive obviously an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25   apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:25   television set is not going to cost $99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   it's going to be a thousand two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   you know it's going to cost what a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   television set costs but what then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   you get up into the higher price range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35   sort of a magical thing happens you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   see this when you go to buy a car like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   when you go into the car dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   you're haggling over price and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:43   find yourself dismissing a difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   price that an absolute values you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   care very much about the item itself was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   a lower price just because it's a lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   percentage so you'll be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   five hundred here five hundred there not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56   a big deal right when you're buying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   car but if you're buying a computer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   say do you mind if we add five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   dollars of this price assume computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   or something you could haggle with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04   cars you'd like what not you can add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   five hunting about becomes a larger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   larger percentage of the whole purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   it starts to make you object to it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   so by increasing the price massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   from $99 Apple can get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:20   increasing its margin somebody by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   charging more so you know say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   Mart or you know even if it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   amount say it's margin is is 25-30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   percent thirty percent of two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   it's way more than thirty percent of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   $99 box and I think they can get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   even more than that I think they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   actually boost their margin simply by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   increasing the margins on the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   expensive product like they do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   Mac Pros because people's minds work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   that way they'll say well it's already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   two thousand dollar TV set and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   hundred dollars here there where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   what's a hundred dollars here they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   $99 Apple TV it's doubling the price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   people flip out even though it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   same exact $100 it's just not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   pricing psychology works with people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   not only can they get bigger margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58   just simply because 30% of mm is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   than 30% of 99 I think they can get 31 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   32 % because people don't notice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   difference on a you know on a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:07   purchase and as I've pointed on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   many times the whole notion of is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   a hardware company or is Apple software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13   company its meaning a statement but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   we can do is look at their their balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   sheet and say how does Apple make its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   money it makes its money by selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   hardware the software business the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   business selling apps selling songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   selling movies renting things all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   that makes a little tiny bit of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   some of it is kind of like break even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   little bit of profit but their meat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   potatoes is the margins they make by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   selling your hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   so if they can find a way to sell people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   another set of $2,000 products with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   their usual margins or possibly higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   that's that's great for them I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   that Apple even though it likes the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   that it's selling more Apple TVs for 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   bucks it doesn't want to sell you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57   much rather sell you thousands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:01   thousands of 500 iPads than an equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   number of $99 Apple TVs it wants to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:07   you expensive items of a Canon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08   recently it's this has been a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   with all vendors like the PC makers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   been really screwed because I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   sell you computers for $1000 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   just the race to the bottom is now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   the average selling price for a PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   laptop is well below a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   whereas Apple's average selling price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   for its laptops is usually above $1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   so they've been holding the line there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   but everyone has been dropping alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   but people are still going to Best Buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   and spending eight hundred nine hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   thousand dollars for a TV right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   here's here's a product that has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   come people aren't going at the Best Buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   and buying 50 inch televisions for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   hundred dollars it's just not happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   televisions are simply a more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45   product and people are buying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   because they're upgrading their old TVs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   to HD TVs and they want a big TV set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   right so no matter how cheap you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   you go to the Vizio you know bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   the lines cheap is you could possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   get it really horrible looking LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:58   people still want 50 inches and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   going to cost you close to a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   dollars six hundred seven hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   dollars like the cheapest one you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:05   possibly get and once you go up to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   60 inch or 70 inch or the people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   see the football in the big screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   just you're over a thousand there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   way to avoid it this you can't sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   for less than that right now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   televisions are potentially a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   app for Apple to increase the average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   selling price of the products that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   sells and if it maintains margins or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   increases them which I think it can they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:28   that will be a big boon to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   business now so that's the these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   the cases for why you might might want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   television set the case is against our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   our you know Marco covered them pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   well and I think they're pretty strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   it's like people people don't turn over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   the TVs like they turn over their cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   phones or you know or like to turn over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   their Mac's or anything like that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   just it's like it was like a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   furniture and people still treat it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   way you know they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   it it's it's in their house you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   get a new one unless you're unhappy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   the one you have because it's too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   because it's not HD because it breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   but these things tend to last a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   cell phones used to be cell phones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   never that bad cell phones used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   you buy it you wait for your contract to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   be up and you get a new phone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   contracts for like two years but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   still way more frequent than people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   placed at helpin it's like how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13   televisions have you owned in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   trying to think I mean half dozen really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:22   that's why I than mine you see you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   going six televisions in my whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   including the ones my mind not when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   you're a kid like you yourself like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:29   you move out of your parents house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   your first TV is yeah I would say maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   three or four and so and how many Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   have you owned during our camera time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   got twelve in here now I thirteen I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:41   Hyundai not hundreds but dozens and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45   many cell phones see now you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   me try and remember things I can't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   to block out like well did you did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   did you change your cell phone every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   time your oh you didn't you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   non-contract person so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   maybe you're different but I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   back in the days when I used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01   contracts at the minute that contract is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   up I was out of that old phone been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:07   during that time the phones have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   that's so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   yeah but so I know lots and lots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   lots of cell phones and of course Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   has changed that habit among super nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   by you know every tenth they come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   with the new iPhone super nerds want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   and even if even if you're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   responsible and you say okay well I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   hold off and I'll just wait till my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   contract it up as soon as your contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   is up you're changing from you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   3GS to a 4s because that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   upgrade so eyeballs actually accelerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   that right the televisions for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   I bought one television when I was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   know I graduated college got married and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   got a television set for myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   they're like $600 back in the late 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   I used that television I'm until maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:49   four years ago when I bought a friend's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:53   television yeah from a used television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   for a hundred bucks so I was my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   television both those were standard def [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   Posehn the more Sony Trinitron and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   I had been planning HD upgrade for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   long time and then I finally pulled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05   trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   by HD television so I've owned three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   televisions in my independent adult life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   and the number of Mac's during that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   again destino seven eight nine I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   know if I even wanna count like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   wife's max then I'm not even counting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   used Mac's that I bought at the MIT swap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20   and stuff even funded with that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   about the MIT swap I am a big MIT swap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   fan I I've gone there for years I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   to go there and I used to see him there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   before I actually knew him because he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   have the hat on and stuff or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   never actually said hi to him but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   that we know each other we have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   actually seen each other this well I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   to stop going because I had I mean kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   of the same reason he found a way to did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44   D he found a coping mechanism but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   was people just take photographs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47   items but a certain point I had to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   because every time I went I would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   home with car loads of stuff and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   attic just started to fill up and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   had to cut myself off so I only went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   like once or twice this season I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   I go and my friend is selling something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:00   doesn't even get in early with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   sellers that's a secret that he may that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   he didn't mention but you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   get something they either pay to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   something it becomes friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   someone who's selling but the sellers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   get in really early and then just go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   with the seller as their helper person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   then you can browse well everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   setting up but anyway yeah I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   lot of hardware from that so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:20   television turnover rate is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:25   habits people have for buying new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   televisions is not great for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   because when Apple comes out with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   cell phone there's certain number people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34   turning over every two years just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   even before they start to try to induce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:37   this 18-month one-year cycle there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   lot of people whose contract is up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   when they introduce the first iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   maybe people didn't break their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   contracts to get it they took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47   wait-and-see but the people whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   contracts were up there like oh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   I'll try this iPhone thing right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   there's no contract for your television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   so they introduced a television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   there's not people there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   two-year interval of people coming into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   the market for a new television right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   there is a mark of people buying a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   television switching from HD from non HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   to HD but I don't know where we are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   that transition certainly among Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:08   best consumers like the the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   adopters and the people who want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   best Apple stuff and you know people own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   Apple stuff I would imagine they either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   don't watch television at all or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   already have HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   television so I don't think they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   introduce a television set and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   expect that there will be a big market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   of people who are like well I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   looking for a TV anyway so I'll check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   out this Apple thing because among their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   customers we've already got HD TVs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   among regular people there's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   that kind of turnover right so for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   television set but - for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   release one and for it to get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   traction at all in the market it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   be something different than a plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   television set and I think it also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   to be something different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   equivalent of taking the current Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   TV and jamming up inside the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:54   there's no matter how cool you make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   television set and this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   that burns maybe like we've did all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   shows about television I'm such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   stickler for these little details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:03   image quality and I don't want any fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   with Oh Steve was with me on the Oh fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   thing so I have high hopes for an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   TV there but it's very specific about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:12   all the the image and input options and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15   all that stuff right but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   historically has or at least in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20   decade has not been like the old Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   the old Apple would say what is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   color display technology current of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   currently available in the entire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   that's what we're going to use to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   our Apple monitors or even the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   laptop we're going to make a laptop with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   a flat screen where is the best flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   screen available prices no objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   that's how you get the Mac portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   which is the the first quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   portable Macintosh was like 16 pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   with lead-acid battery in it I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   have one of those in my attic by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   they are monsters and they put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   active-matrix display in it which no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   even heard of what active nature but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52   basically meant that the cursor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   everything on it what didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   humongous ghost trails behind it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   cost an arm and a leg and the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   portable I forget what the price rotor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   core was but it's just astronomically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   more expensive because that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   they used to do things Apple hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   used to be what's the best we can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   and still be able to sell it for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   than the price of a house I guess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   we'll put that in but the later Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   has been but we want good displays right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   but if there's a slightly better panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   out right now that maybe Dell is selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   or HP is selling or you know NEC or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   whoever those like high-end graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   artists color calibrated really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   expensive displays like well we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   going to buy one of those because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   think that's overkill and if we did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   we have to sell our monitors for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   four grand kind of like a or who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   company does the really expensive ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   is it is it NEC NEC I used to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   know how they compare price-wise anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   if they're still making them yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41   they sell consumer stuff but they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   sell like you are graphics RS here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   super expensive one oh yeah like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46   like photographers who must have perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   color matching and yeah they I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   NEC we could ask Duncan but I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   NEC is still the kid the king in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   space and they come with they would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   with the optical calibrator that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   clamp on to the thing like the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   end display you can get but apples like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   that's not appropriate for our business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   we want to sell to consumers so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   will Apple want to get the IPS displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:06   and I should put a Wikipedia page with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:07   their IPs and PVA and all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   different technologies used to make LCDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:12   and they'll use the LED backlighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   right so but try to they'll try to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   like the 80 or 90% solution because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   don't want to be the highest of the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   end is that just that prices them out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   the market they want to have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   monitors be in range so the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   27-inch displays a thousand bucks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   looks really nice but it is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   not the best display panel you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   you want to say I want the best 27-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   or round abouts display panel I can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   Apple doesn't sell it to you so if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   makes television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:37   you're not gonna whatever they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   first of all I would imagine they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:40   make it LCD just because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   they're familiar with they wouldn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   with plasma or something but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   discussed in previous shows if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   the absolute best image quality in a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   projector television set I get an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   direct view television set plasma is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   still the way to go and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   Apple would go with the plasma because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58   the power concerns because of all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2218">TS</a>]

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00:37:04   fans the fact that their entire business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   and all their contracts have to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   LCDs I would imagine they would go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   an LCD television set and maybe LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   backlighting but I imagine it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   edge lit because they like the thinness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   there wouldn't be that the backlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   wouldn't be directly behind it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18   on the edges and reflected with mirrors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   and that does make this hats thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:21   which Apple likes but it's not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   as direct backlighting and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   whole local dimming thing we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   so go back to listen to whatever episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   that was when we discussed television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:32   what I'm getting at is that if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   came out with television set I ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   everything else that has to do with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   television set I would say I would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   at it and say that the picture quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   of that television is not as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   other televisions I can buy for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   money or even possibly my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   television set uh and that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:53   not a problem for most people I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   bring it up because it's an issue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   people who are real sticklers about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   their television is that you think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   Apple TV is going to come on it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   it's going to be awesome it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   Apple television set it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   be the best television set in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   just picture quality that you can buy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07   the market either at the same price or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   even a lesser price you can get a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   looking television set alright so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:15   has to be something his television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16   that's going to make people who aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   in the market for television to buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   it's not going to be because the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   quality is so much better something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   we've made a breakthrough in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   television looks better than every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   television ever sold that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   be the case 100% guaranteed it will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   right it may look good it'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   we'll be better than most people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31   televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32   it'll also be more expensive most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   people's televisions for the high-end TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   people aren't going to be on it so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36   is it that's gonna make me go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   buy this television set why why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   need this thing in my life do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   like do you feel like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   answer well well because any deals if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   you do we ought to do the sponsor first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2326">TS</a>]

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00:38:55   they've been on a roll for for about 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   years 7 years of creating content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   management systems they just came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   with a new version of Squarespace that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   not available to everybody they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   releasing releasing I guess the invites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:12   daily though but they've been working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2352">TS</a>]

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00:39:19   completely managed environment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2359">TS</a>]

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00:39:25   nothing else you've ever seen they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2365">TS</a>]

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00:39:30   check this out even if you don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   about the beta don't worry about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   because what they've already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   building is pretty amazing this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   anybody who wants to make an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2375">TS</a>]

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00:39:41   platform powers every site it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   matter who links to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   whether it's John Gruber or anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   they scale there's nothing that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   to worry about it's it is just it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   they have social integration so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2396">TS</a>]

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00:39:59   must they have built-in customizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   photo galleries they have an iPhone iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   app they're going to Android app now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2404">TS</a>]

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00:40:52   up you'll be doing yourself a favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2452">TS</a>]

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00:40:58   go for that course as well or is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   someone who is actually on the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   know like it and not that I'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   employee but employees of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2463">TS</a>]

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00:41:22   they might even be able to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   more for you but at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   you'll get that that isn't and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   good discount all right so where was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:31   that you were about to tell us Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   during the know during the when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   doing the sponsor I get to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   chat room a little bit and a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   people bring up 4k which is a resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:42   for I think it's just for filming now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   but anyway you can you can film it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   know he's got HD so 1080p HD right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:50   that's the highest level the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   sets go now and finally pretty much any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   televisions that you can buy unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   very small hmm it can do native 1080p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   is the next resolution step up it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   four times a times as many pixels four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:05   times as wide four times as high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   I hope forget what 1080 is 1080 the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   height or the width resolution cat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   we'll know this in a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   so anyway 4k is I think the height goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:19   to 4k someone posted a link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   Wikipedia page it says several different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   resolutions actually qualifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   quote-unquote 4k so it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   terms that's not entirely you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28   nailed down but it's like for 4000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:32   actually what 4k seems to be the width [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   it's 4096 by 3112 and or by 4096 by 1714 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:43   there's all sorts of different aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   ratios and resolutions for 4k but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   point is it's many many more pixels than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   1080p and people doing digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   filmmaking like making movies have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   moving to 4k just because 1080p is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   of a low resolution if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58   blow it up onto a 60-foot screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   know or like a even just a regular large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   not imax or anything but just a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   rectangular regular movie screen 1080p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08   is kind of Dadi if you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   because we're all looking at monitors if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   you have a 24-inch monitor or larger you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   know you're looking at more than 1080p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   or at least exactly 1080p now imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19   taking that monitor and putting it up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   a giant movie screen it starts to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   little bit you know so they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   something that has high resident so 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   is the next standard that varies camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   shooting and there have been television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:28   sets demoed that's how we can display 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   natively and something was saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   if Apple wants to do some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   display technology that is that's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:39   to make people say all I'm going to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:40   this maybe they would be the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   with a mass-market consumer 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   television that I think it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   the old Apple would do the old Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   would say you know we're not just coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   out with a laptop or a kind of laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   whose screen is amazing a look at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   know you're sick of all that ghosting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   your PC laptop look at this no ghosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   it's called active matrix people be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   blown away and willing to pay huge sums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   of money for it I don't think at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   today wants to sell millions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   millions of items there's no way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   can sell millions and millions of 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   television sets and an Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:08   even seem willing to offer that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   product I wrote you know the there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   reason that they couldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   fielded more models of iPod for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   like by this point they could say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   you know we'll introduce a new ipod that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   has a Retina display or iPod iPad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   has a Retina display but it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   be hugely expensive and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   high-end product Apple this doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   into that market these days there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   gonna be this one iPad everyone can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   it and yes we could make a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   expensive version they'd much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   push down they must rather make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   cheaper version and much about us say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   how cheap can we make the 16 gig model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   how cheap you know without compromising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   quality without making it crappy without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   putting on a worse screen or stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   that but they want to drive the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   down they don't want to say oh and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   the people who have disposable income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   for your tiny percentage here is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   super-duper iPad the most they'll do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   you know here's a 64 gig model but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   that they could have fielded a 64 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   model you know or 120 they could put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   128 gig most plenty of room in that iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:00   to put in more memory chips but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01   just not interested in that so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   think they will come up with a 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:04   television set so I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   will be their selling proposition now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   the selling proposition is getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12   before the break what what is it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   going to make anyone buy this thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   has to be about content it just has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:20   be and whether that content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   applications which is a valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   differentiator or just viewing content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   it has to be a different or better deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   that you get with any of the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   solutions including the current Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   so first let start with applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:38   applications were were a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   differentiator for phones like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   bought why would you buy an iPhone even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   obviously the first time I wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   have apps for it right but once that app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   thing came around I only started to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   rolling you know that there's an app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   that thing you'd see you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   don't know anything about Apple didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53   even know the first iPhone came out by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   the time the App Store came out for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   iPhone their friends would be shown and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   check out as appliques fart app look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   this thing looks like I'm drinking a cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   of beer when I tilt my iPhone isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   awesome like that as stupid as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   that really got the ball rolling on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   iPhone it wasn't like oh it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   touchscreen interface and it's magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   involved like if that's harder sell than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   your friends seeing some cool app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   you have or a dumb app that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   just a fart app anything right that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19   the ball rolling right so if Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   find some way to put applications on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   you went over your friend's house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   instead of just watching TV you had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   ability to do app like stuff on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   that could be a differentiator the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   problem I think is that nobody knows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   I think including Apple how how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   make apps work on a television senton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   you keep your not going to be putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   your fingers on it I can tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   anybody stand in front of it swiping at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   your televisions that not getting over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   behind the entertainment center getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   fingerprints all over right so how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   that even work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   and and Apple has not been so far a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:55   of older input methods like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2815">TS</a>]

00:47:00   reason the Apple couldn't have released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   a official Bluetooth type device or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:06   something that plugged into the iPod did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   you know something probably plug into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   the dock connector that gave you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   analog stick and buttons for gaming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   basically turns it into like a DS or PSP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   right because that would make a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   games much easier oh you don't touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   screen for this game this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:22   traditional game here's a little d-pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   who's a little analog stick here's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   buttons and now suddenly we've opened up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   the world of game is had No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28   it's touch screen we touch screen games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   if a third party wants to try to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   that stuff finally we'll open up the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   know you can you can third parties can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   now make this product I think several of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   them do actually exist but Apple is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   endorsing it and since it's such a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   percentage of people with iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   who will ever buy that little d-pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   think people aren't designing games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   the games are designed for touch so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   don't think Apple would say well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   can't figure out how to way do apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   this thing so we'll just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   peripheral and it's like a directional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   pad or it's like the Wii mode and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58   build on the IR sensors or it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   PlayStation Move and it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   they'll track some sort of ball with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   camera that we build in or some way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   do stuff on that screen without touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   it or or just a regular controller like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   an Xbox controller like a Pippin or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   whatever because games are a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   application but if you can't touch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   screen and you don't have a mouse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16   you don't have a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   your choices are basically you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:21   does everyone else done before in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22   of how do you interact with a television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   without using one of those methods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   there's a whole menagerie of choices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   they've been getting better but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   think any of them are up to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   standards I don't think any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:31   would be so compelling that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   make applications great that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   that you'd want to use absent because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   lot of people have apps on TVs mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   comes with some set of credi app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   since Samsung televisions have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41   apps yeah some people have app stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   but it's like what do I do with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:44   what can I just play games like is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:48   just like an Xbox or a Wii or PS you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   know a PlayStation no that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   been done it's not revolutionary it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   Apple want to enter that market do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55   want to make a game console that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   whole other ball of wax and if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   want to make one are you going to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59   into the TV you know apps on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   work because because of the range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   things you can do with them it Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:05   application is the fart app that silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   games new kinds of games Angry Birds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   flicking little birds over right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   do Angry Birds with the remote control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   up up down pull back let you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   not as fun though it's not if the Angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   Birds doesn't take off because that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   don't want to sit down in front of TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   and do it if you can sit down in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   of TV and play a game you want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   either fun for the whole family like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   Wii wherever I can get a kick out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   and it you know it's it's something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   and novel but we've kind of already done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   that with the Wii and all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   stuff or you want it to be like a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   game for like the hardcore gamers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   I don't think interested in entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38   that market because that market seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39   be on it on the decline mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   of Apple's touch games so I don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   see how apps are going to be the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   selling point of the television unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   they figure out the input issue and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   talked about Siri with Apple TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   stuff that was an interface for watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   television shows and though that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   much more limited world of things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:56   not it's not like a game or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   application or anything that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   use on an iOS device where you need like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   the full range of input and being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   to tap on things and drag them and swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   them and enter texts and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   Siri for apple TV would only work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   because mostly what you want to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   tell it to put a show on and you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   there and watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14   tell it to pause tell it to resume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   whatever the world of things you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   do they'd be emptied the numbers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   interactions are much smaller not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   using an app where you're constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   using it right and any kind of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   where you're not constantly use it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   book readers you're not going to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   book on your television right so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30   apps are a good idea but not the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   apps that we talk about when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   about what made the the iPhone so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   not not games not you know there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   be games not fard apps because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   not interesting not word processors GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   map things I don't know what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   all the kinds of apps that people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49   every day on their iPhone so it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   be a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:52   so the content side the content mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:57   what we're talking about is so you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   me to buy this thing and presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   apples proposition would be buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   thing and stop paying for one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   things you're currently paying for stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   paying for cable stop paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:10   satellite because we're going to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:13   you the same stuff but in a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   attractive package and this gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   stuff that John was talking about Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   was begging up the whole model of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   there's a big stream of content coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   to your house and you have to sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   in front of it and we decide when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   on and if you want to subvert that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   can add another layer this that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   layer is a Google TV or a TiVo or DVR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   where game comes into the house and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   buy this other device in this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   service that watches that stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   constantly and picks out the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   you want so that you can come up to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   at a later point and watch stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   has aired when you weren't there time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   shifting right changing it from a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   stream that you have to sit in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   a certain times to be an experience more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   like you picking and choosing what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   want to watch but it's it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   layer on top of the existing service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   this is we recall episode number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   hypercritical this is what I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   desperately wanted Apple to build I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   still want them to go I still want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03   someone to build is a really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   device that sits on top of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   content that I'm already paying for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   changes it in a way that it will make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:13   like it better I can watch it whenever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   want I can record two things at once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   can't watch two shows at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   record four things at once with the TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   Oly premiere or whatever I want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   a nice interface I want it to be smart I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   wanted to say hey the US Open is on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:25   want to see every match of that record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   the US Open I don't care what channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   it's on I don't care it's on espn2 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   night but then it switches CBS and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   the highlight show just record the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33   Open you know all the Super Bowls coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   up record the Super Bowl I want to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   that to Siri and have a record Super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   Bowl as opposed to what I do now which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   is go to TiVo and search for n:f no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:45   not NFL su-yong is you never know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:49   the hell they're gonna tell the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:50   the listings it's like it's the Super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   Bowl is one show in the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   that you'd have a big shiny red button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   in the menu it should be record the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57   Super Bowl I don't know I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   into a Tebow rant again but like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   was a huge potential for people to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:06   like that better but then there was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   d8 conference that I talked about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   episode more of the show in the 2008 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   something like that when when Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:14   onstage he basically said no we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   gonna make a box like that just came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   right out and said it so I don't things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   I need to speculate about I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19   Apple would make one of those devices he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   just came out and said it no we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   want to make one of those no again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   was years ago and he's not with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   company anymore so they could change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   their mind I desperately want someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   make one of those because I'm unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   with the progress t-bo's were making or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   lack of progress all right but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   does not seem interested they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   to be a thing on top of the other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   it's kind of like if instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   iTunes Music Store they made something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   like Radio shift where it was like a PVR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   for radio where you attach it to analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   or your hybrid digital radio or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   like internet streaming radio and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   would watch the stream and record the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53   song as you wanted and then you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   know that's not what they made they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   the iTunes Music Store it said don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   to the music store anymore we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   going to record the stream of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   coming out of the radio we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   replace those things with something we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   think is better whenever you want come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   you can sample the songs you know by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   individual songs that are buying an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   album and it comes right from us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   we're not we're not a front end for Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   Goody we're not a front end for Tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   Records we are not we're not buying from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   Tower Records and selling it through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   you right and that's what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21   that's what Tebow is doing that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3261">TS</a>]

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00:56:34   whole value chain involved in delivering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3394">TS</a>]

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00:57:28   got the contracts for airing NFL games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   are airing local Yankees games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3451">TS</a>]

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00:57:36   to air Yankees games in New York metro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3456">TS</a>]

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01:00:03   instead of having channels have apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3603">TS</a>]

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01:00:19   book was an individual application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3619">TS</a>]

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01:00:22   iBook store Kindle Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3622">TS</a>]

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01:00:26   because at least you can buy the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   from within the app that's a better way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:31   to do it ensuring intern app isn't great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   but the concept is the same that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:34   people who own these contents would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   decide we're going to invest in making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   an application or whatever you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   make so that our content is available to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   IRS users or two people two users of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   this new Apple TV set and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48   already doing you know the MLB app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   stuff in the end the Bloomberg app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3649">TS</a>]

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01:00:51   devices a couple people have said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:55   what if they just build in like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   Apple TV box and you airplay them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   the devices you can already get them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3659">TS</a>]

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01:01:04   was describing in that thing especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   with the syncing with iCloud everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   I think he wants you to sit down I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   think he wants you to pull up your iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10   or your iPod touch and airplay stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   over that by launching the NFL app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   think he wants you to sit down in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15   of the thing and be able to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   everything that's available including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   things that are currently happening now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   assuming they have live TV and choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   from that I don't think he wants you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   bring a menagerie of other devices close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   to your dumb relatively dumb television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   set and airplay them onto it just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   you would onto a television with a Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   TV right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33   so so I'm kind of on the other thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:39   where he's got the I cracked it quote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   nice eikaiwa finally figured out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3701">TS</a>]

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01:01:47   thought the same thing when he made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   iPod hi-fi right the number of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   that he's been excited about and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52   thinks he's probably cracked the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:53   it's not a guarantee that he has right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   or that Apple has or that you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   tried out and didn't actually work he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:00   may be excused excited about a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   things but a lot but you know only some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   of those things are successful in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   market and I think the things that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   excited about have always been filtered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   through the lens of the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   company being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   or against it I haven't gotten I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   about like a quarter of the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   the book so I haven't gotten to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   later chapters but all the elite things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   I've seen on the web made me think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   later you'll see instances where Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   Jobs is either not for or adamantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:27   against a move that we all think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   brilliant it turned out to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:31   important for the company because Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   Jobs is not the company is not just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   person so we see the successes of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   and occasionally you know things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   sneak through there aren't successes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   who knows how many things that he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   excited about internally that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:43   really dumb and would not have worked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   things that he opposed it turned out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   be awesome right I don't want to cite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   specific examples then again I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   at that point in the book but when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   says that he thinks there's an interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54   that's really awesome I'm sure he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   think it's awesome but he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   average consumer and as the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:02   he finds awesome diverge from the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   that regular people find awesome that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   the success rate of the products go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   like I'm sure he did replace his stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   with an iPod hi-fi but the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   world didn't right or the g4 cube for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   another example he thought it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15   awesome would definitely be worth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16   amount of money the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   disagreed but the iPhone really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   awesome enough that people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   hooked onto it so I'm not so convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:27   that just because Steve Jobs is excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28   about this and they finally solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   problem for Apple television that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31   going to be a big big deal and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   to check for this is to see when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   hobby light goes off right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   Apple TV is just hobby they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:38   constantly lowering expectations you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   know we're not going to sell as many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   these as we sell iOS devices we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45   figured out a way to make money we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46   not expecting people to immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   cancel their cable television and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   buy Apple TVs because they didn't a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   of people bought them more people than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:54   when it was 300 bucks but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57   they didn't replace their television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   sets with them so if Apple comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   with television set in Steve Jobs saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:02   I cracked it I think he thinks that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:06   they feel the product that incorporates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   these things that he thinks are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:09   awesome it's going to do much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   better than the existing Apple TV like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   it's going to it's going to sell in more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15   numbers it's going to make the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16   money it's going to be the start of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   something big and the ways to do that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   you can you can start a platform you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:21   sell applications for it or you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   it you can finally start stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   customers from cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26   and the final part about stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   costumes from cable and make as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29   mentioned before is that most people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   their internet access through the cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32   companies now and the same people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   sell in television those people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   sell you telephone television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   Internet access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39   and if it turns out that people suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   start buying Apple TV the Apple stole it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43   the mercy of those people because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   people can say oh so you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46   do our triple play which they all call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   it you know phone television or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49   you just want to have internet access or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   Internet access and phone all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   the price for that will actually be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   expensive than what you're doing now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   know or the price from that will be five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   dollars less than what you're doing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00   but oh you know once you get out of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:01   triple everything you know they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   so many things with the pricing not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   getting into the whole conspiracy theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   of like they're going to slow down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08   traffic to the Apple special Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09   television set if they can tell it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   Netflix they're gonna you know throttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   it or that the whole dough shenanigans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   which they get into trouble for with for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   the sec and all that you know lobbyist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   business even ignoring it they can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   say fine we're just gonna we're just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   know if you don't buy a triple play it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:24   actually more expensive you so you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   as well just get this thing and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   don't you feel dumb connecting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   television that's can't even read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:30   Cape the cable television shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   you're getting especially if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   doesn't come out of the gate with 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34   percent solution like well I can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   most things on my new Apple TV set but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   when I want to watch this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   show I have to watch on HBO I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   that's bad example because I have an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   but you know are whatever the show is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   have to watch a Doctor Who on BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   America unless I want to wait a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:50   after it aired and I don't like waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   a day so I really don't want to buy TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   that can't even show the stuff in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   cable box is putting out well why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   you just cancel the cable box and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   will be tempted well they'll charge me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   more so this is a tough tough nut to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   crack to crack there and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:05   think everyone keeps going towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:06   applications because that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07   something that the cable companies don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   have an answer for or it's like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   reason I want the Apple TV is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   runs apps and they're awesome for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   reason that none of us can can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   but it's something that's not answerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   the cable companies are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19   field an app store the cable companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:20   cannot make a platform like iOS they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   cannot recruit develop as they simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   cannot like technically it's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/3984">TS</a>]

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01:08:20   display and I bought this the instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4100">TS</a>]

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01:08:32   did when your first look the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   because it's an LED in theory it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   never fade it should never you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   dim or anything looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4117">TS</a>]

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01:08:41   come up with no reason why I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   to replace this right now I can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45   of a reason why the new ones are simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:49   too large they're ridiculous they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:50   embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4131">TS</a>]

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01:09:01   ever replace this thing until it dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4141">TS</a>]

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01:09:08   room we've got to believe it's a 46-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4148">TS</a>]

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01:09:16   that thing until that thing dies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   stops working completely I have no plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:22   to replace that I'm almost embarrassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4162">TS</a>]

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01:09:37   came out with with an Apple television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4177">TS</a>]

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01:09:45   that it would do all the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4185">TS</a>]

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01:09:56   people switch it you still have a cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4196">TS</a>]

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01:10:02   just on the edge of being able to ditch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4202">TS</a>]

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01:10:18   want to wait until the day after to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:19   watch Fringe or whatever right well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4219">TS</a>]

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01:11:05   but we like to strongly influence what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4265">TS</a>]

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01:11:53   ever watched educational programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4313">TS</a>]

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01:12:00   hard to like hold the line enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:01   because kids want to watch he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   watch Star Wars the Clone Wars which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:04   not educational and so you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   he's like five I let him watch his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   non educational program but the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09   kid she sees him watching Clone Wars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   you know something she wants to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4331">TS</a>]

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01:12:16   they've never seen spongebob neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17   live because I'm I don't think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   good show alright so you can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:22   cable subscription and still 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:25   control every piece of media to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   children see how long they see it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   they see everything about it you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   have a larger menu of things to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   from as we got like 70 PBS stations so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   can just a thing up to like save save at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:38   the most 8 episodes of you know Super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:41   Why and just always had that queue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   rotating a new episode so any television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:46   the house that can go to they can go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   there and pick one of the shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   we've said is acceptable for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   just watch them right so you what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   saying is you can still control that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4374">TS</a>]

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01:12:57   big fire hose doesn't mean you ever need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   to have anyone sit in front of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   children or adults right so even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:04   the people at anyway those are the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   criteria that I would say have brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:10   us back one of the big ones is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   when a new episode of Boardwalk Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   comes out you know what I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   watch that I don't I don't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18   want to weigh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   until the entire season is available to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   be downloaded on iTunes I don't download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:24   them illegally through the torrents or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:27   whatever I did you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   extra trouble I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   I'll pay money so that they're there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:33   available when I want them to be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   example and that that's just one of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:36   handful of shows I we actually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   watch the adults in the house don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41   watch a whole lot of TV and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:44   what we do watch comes from Netflix via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   the Apple TV a lot of what we do watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   our programs that we've DVR'd the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:51   live TV that I personally watch really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:55   ever our sporting events you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   watched I watched Major League Baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   I watch NFL I'm aware that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   some other sports out there and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   really watch them I do watch golf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:05   sometimes so you know for somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:10   me I don't I don't even want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:11   really even want to watch a sporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   event DVR'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:13   I would rather miss the first half and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   watch alive it's just the way I am or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   catch up really fast if I have to uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   for somebody like me you know ditching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:21   cable yes there yes I could get like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:24   antenna or I could you get the very most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   basic cable or I could keep the coax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   plugged into the television and use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   as an antenna and okay you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   get all that and in fact yes I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   that I've tried that I've done that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:36   the experience was not what we wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:39   and it created more hassle and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:43   people looking for a slub a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   situation because yeah we all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   if you could just snap your finger say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   what would I want I would obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:49   people have to produce content so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   understand that there will be delay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   producing content we don't want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   like I want to see the whole Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:55   season right on day one will they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   to make the shows so there will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:58   be some sort of time stream release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:02   content right but beyond what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   necessary for the creation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:05   content and maybe what is necessary for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   the idea of doling it out slowly so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   it's not you know so they're all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   friends haven't watched the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:12   season of Doctor Who on the first day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   is they stayed up all night and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:15   there's hours of TV right right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   beyond simply doling stuff out as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   periodical everything else we just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:21   I just want to want to watch it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   want to watch it I don't want any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:24   commercials like we all know what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:25   demands are it's just how well are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   products serving our needs so for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   buy a different product or do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   different thing we want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:32   better for us not worse and so you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34   tried the cable thing and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:35   content that you wanted it was more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   hassle so you go back right and and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:40   the degree that Apple can get critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   mass of content that changes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45   minds about that that's that's how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   consumers they can get and now it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   convincing factor too but once you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:50   your friends like I ditched it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   you know I would never ditch real cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   but I actually ditched cable for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:55   Apple thing because they have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   content that it's finally crossed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58   threshold and we all have our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   thresholds of what things we want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:01   right I so but I think that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:05   way they can have enough content to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   out of the gate and and sell a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   Apple TVs based on the content deals now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   when you were saying before I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:12   that also what so what what if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   to come out and do the slow burn like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:15   you look at the iPod growth there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   slow burn it was Mac only it was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   weird thing even Mac users didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:21   what to think of it for the first year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   or two or three of the iPod it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   you know it was like it didn't do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:26   hockey stick in me it didn't do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   iPad where it comes out of the gate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29   just they sell them like crazy it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:30   hotcakes right that so if they don't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:33   they come out with this thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:35   only and content is their angle they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37   not going with like apps because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:38   haven't figured out some awesome way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39   deal with like traditional applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   or games in a way that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:42   and only a few people buy it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   like it you there they crossed over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   why don't you other people's threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   for acceptability of content and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   the next year they get a few more deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:51   and the next year they get a few more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:52   deals like they could do that slow burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   type thing but unless they keep labeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57   it as a hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:58   they're gonna get slammed by everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:01   if they do that in terms of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   know Apple no one's comes out and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:04   well Apple TV's a failure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   because they were so it's a hobby you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:07   know it's not a big deal we make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:08   on it's not you know but look people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   it's a distraction people are like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:11   yeah you saw Apple TV tell us more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:12   your iPhones and iPads and the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   that really make you the money right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:15   if they say this is it this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   be the I don't know what the fourth leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:18   in our stool the fifth I don't how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20   legs I think they have next door now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21   like this is gonna be a pillar of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:24   company we think you know and they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   out of the gate and it does that slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:27   burn thing like oh then analysts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   gonna be like Oh apples television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:32   flounders in the market it's only got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   0.02 percent market share and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   people still have cable and blah blah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   that's that's tough way to go if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:41   keep calling it hobby they can say we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   changed our hobby to selling little $99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   boxes to selling $2,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:46   television sets are $1500 television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   sets or whatever and I keep saying at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   the hobby people could watch it like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   the earnings calls with Tim Cook for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   four years now anytime the ballasts have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   talked about whoa what is that will to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   be not going to be hobby or they ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59   obligatory Apple TV question hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:00   like oh it's still hobby blah blah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   his big phrases we think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   something there saying we as an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   this was before our jobs was gone he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08   speaking of jobs didn't do the earning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09   calls that much in his later years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   unless it was a special reason for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:13   to be there we think there is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:14   there in the television market I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   we all think there's something there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:17   analysts think there's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:18   the consumers Apple we know that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   situation that sucks for reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   knowing the technology sucks because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24   the incumbents with too much power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:25   content owners and stupid FCC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28   government and that whole big melange of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   corruption and influence and anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   consumer sentiment adjust everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:34   about it is horrible that's why Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   sees it as like it you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   problem or it's an opportunity it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:39   opportunity to is a big upside there if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:42   we can figure out how to do what we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   to the phone market which was suck the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   value away from the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   previously got all the things selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48   their stupid ringtones for 10 bucks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   only letting a few credit applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   we can we can make them into a dumb pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   and give us all the profit right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:57   want to do that same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:58   television and it's going to be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4738">TS</a>]

01:18:59   harder and I have trouble envisioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:04   anything they can feel that will it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   come out of the gate like an iPad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   even like an iPhone and be as successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   at stealing the profits of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   television watching industry as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   other thing so as excited jobs when Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   is excited I don't think he's excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   about a business model he's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20   excited about a hardware piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   software or interface method and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   may all be great or maybe so so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:27   bet he was excited about Siri - I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   Siri is a big deal and everyone I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:30   seen with iPhone 4s is excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:33   Siri and excitement whereas often it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   still is a useful feature so but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   it's incremental if you just say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39   like a regular television set with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:40   Apple TV attached but it's got Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   that's not gonna do it either so I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:45   pretty pessimistic about the prospects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   of an Apple television set I see exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:50   how it could be done I just don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   the things that will make it happen are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   not under Apple's control Apple can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   like they don't have an army they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   force content owners to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   they can't you know they can't kick out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:04   the incumbents and say we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   use your wires but not pay you anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:07   other than for being dumb you know pipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   to the household not this I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:12   I'm I'm not that excited about an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:15   TV and I don't have great helpers for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:18   but I will be very very happy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:19   proven wrong I I would love to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:24   but like I said I would I would I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   buy this if they come out with it if for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27   no other reason then I anticipate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29   the the integration will be will be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:34   it will be an attractive TV you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:37   new TV anyway like I need it I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   like season 23 inch Mont 23 inch model I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   would like a 27 inch like my wife has I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   don't need to put it but not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   that I bought a new one right so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:46   like yeah you know 46 inch TV I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   get a 55 inch one right now it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:50   be that much and it would look nicer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   do you need it that much it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:53   there's TVs fine right Sam I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:56   computer monitor next time I get a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:58   computer I'll probably buy a new monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4858">TS</a>]

01:20:59   with it but it's like well you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   much better computer but just keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:02   using my old monitor so I've used this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:03   monitor with a couple of computers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   the television thing I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   already on the edge because you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07   an older TV aids it's not massively big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:10   these days it's hard to find anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12   under 50 inches so you might be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   yeah I'll get a new one I mean I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:17   it would be an extravagance but would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   you buy the new Apple TV if they said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   and by the way uh there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:24   other inputs there's no way to connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   anything to it you can even watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:27   blu-rays on it there's no inputs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   switch between if you pay for cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   tough luck there's no place where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:32   plugs in you connect an Ethernet cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   or Wi-Fi and that's it now would you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   the Apple TV yep you still get it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39   it replace your regular television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:40   because now you know what do you do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41   kids shows you could say well we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   only get what's on the iTunes Store well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:44   I have Netflix for that well I'm I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   you watch Netflix is what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   you're getting you're saying that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:50   not going to preserve the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:51   functionality of the existing Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   and provide me with Netflix the Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   is a weird thing if you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   because we're we just taught let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   tell you there's only two things plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:00   into this TV right now one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   the Apple TV and the other one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   stupid DVR that they force us to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   yeah if you could if you could may if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   the Apple TV was the Apple TV then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   that's one gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:13   and if if the Apple TV itself let us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   watch the things that we want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   whether it was with a cable card whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19   it was with some other magical thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   that Apple figures out how to do then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   that's that's the DVR box gone so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:28   else is left out we don't have a blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:29   player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   we don't have explain think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   though we just talked about how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:33   does not want to be another layer on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:34   of the thing it Apple put Netflix in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:38   Apple TV but I don't think they liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   the idea of okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   Netflix goes out there and negotiates to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   get the content and then we negotiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44   with Netflix to be put inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:45   devices in them you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:47   layers upon layers sucking up profit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   then it's very easy for the profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:50   suddenly to shift in Netflix and away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   from Apple for that obviously Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   again Apple makes its money on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:55   hardware so like look this is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   have to do to put the kite on anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   I'll tell you what if anything I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   think Apple TV has the potential to prop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   up Netflix right now more than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:06   way around that's just my thought on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   but I'll tell you what else the fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   boxes of fewer things have to plug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   again I'll sit I have no blu-ray player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13   I've never owned one I don't own one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   I have no gaming consoles that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   change when my kids are older but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:20   none plugged in and unless the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:23   handles something there but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:26   saying is this if Apple can solve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   handful of these problems and create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31   better television viewing environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   even if it's just the user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   that gets better I'm all about that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:39   probably weird and that I don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   game consoles and I don't have any uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   you know blu-ray or DVD players or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:46   anything but it's just it who needs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48   well you know what I'm I dreaded just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:51   sit down with my family watch something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:52   and have fun watching a show I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   know II you know I'm not gonna slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   there was an artifact and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   such-and-such HD signal on the sci-fi HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:01   channel was made you're making fun of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   complaining about it yeah who cares if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   the signals really so what if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   compressed he'll killers could do could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09   you see the people's faces when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:10   were talking could you see the laser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   beam barely could you see Thor you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:15   smashing his hammer over the guy's head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   or whatever you were watching I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:18   know I'm sure you could it was fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   a regular human being would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   probably looked at it and said hey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:23   looks looks it looks great know what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   nice TV you have John so you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   about the simplicity fact that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:29   reason I think people people are annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   with the current apathy because of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:32   you're like look I just want to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   show I don't care if it's on Netflix I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:35   don't care if it's not Amazon yeah where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   it's available I just want to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38   show is it available in iTunes look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   now gotta go to Netflix before I pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   his iTunes things let me check in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43   Netflix to make sure I can't get it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44   free there all that business that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:48   lack of simplicity which is again why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:49   think about the idea of you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51   Apple TV in you suitable for use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:52   well soon Netflix will be there but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   if that's the whole thing an integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   simplified experience without like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   other place to check don't all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   as iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:01   there's Netflix and then there's the NFL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:03   app and there's the MLB app and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:04   the Bloomberg happens the CNN app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   you know I think they want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   unified I I think you want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:11   unified I don't think you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:12   hunting around you know the PBS app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:14   get hang on a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:15   hang on a second what's the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   between the NFL app and saying oh wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:22   minute which channel has the NFL game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24   it yeah okay this one is on ESPN that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   what DVR so solve you're from supposed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   good number call you from doing it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:31   know I don't have them the Cowboys games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:32   I don't care where the air find them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   record them for me I would I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   actually say please never show me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:36   Cowboys games unless one of the two can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:39   keep track with who eagles-cowboys game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:40   which are usually Monday night games one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   home and one away that would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   exception to the time I would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:46   see a cowboy sports are one instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   where I think the app model can work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:48   though this is like look it's the NFL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:50   app it's for all the footballers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   MLB app is where the baseball yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   like that I like that to me to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56   nice that's like the MLB chuckles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58   Fox app you gotta remember the fringe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5158">TS</a>]

01:25:59   on Fox do I care that fringes on Fox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:01   unlike ruber I have no memory of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03   shows around what stations I'm with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   on there what stations are on I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07   care what days they air I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:08   anything about them if I like a show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   want to see the show and that's why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:11   iTunes Store is like you just search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:12   Fringe you iTunes doesn't say I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   sure somewhere in the iTunes beta does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:16   this fringe now airing on Fox or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   whatever it's like you go to the Fox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:19   section of the iTunes video store you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22   know so here's the Fox section you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   the Fox host and I'd do a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   search for the ABC section right a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   unified experience that stops this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:30   of you know channels and air times or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:34   even venues Netflix is like a venue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36   getting something like a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:37   middleman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   as different middlemen the netbooks is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   middleman and Apple itself is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:41   middleman a unified experiences I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   what Apple wants and what everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45   wants and continuing to have a Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:46   app and an Amazon map and an iTunes app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   is not good I think you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:49   unified experience you if it's all apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   like just you know the only way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:54   get there's no Netflix app because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:55   Netflix is like it's like nesting dolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   like so you've got Apple TV and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   inside it there's another Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   called Netflix where you have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   Damien I dunno list of things in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05   right at least they don't go more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:06   two levels deep but because the NFL app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:09   is more like well that's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:10   imagine if you just had Apple TV and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   it was was individual applications for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:15   free two shows or four for sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:20   leagues right that's pretty much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:23   most level people would tell her because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25   they wouldn't you know so I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:26   the fact is NFL app I want equals AB the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:29   NFL app is fun you can find the Eagles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:30   games that you want you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:31   but people don't want a fox app that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   that's too far that's like well didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   we just come from this with the channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:37   thing it seems dumb like I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   what channel it's on because then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:40   especially the people search like how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:41   I search you'd want if this give me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   ax flop and then I'll be app you'd still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   want some sort of overall interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46   where you just do a search Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   call it a spotlight search for no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   do a search and search for cowboys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52   you'd expect the Cowboys games to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53   up sorry with the Cowboys example again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:54   and you'd also expect TV shows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:57   Cowboys to come up right a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   Universal Search you don't have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:00   little islands of things but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:03   scenario is even more difficult to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:05   off because then you've got to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:06   individual applications for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:09   content that's going to reach you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:10   some sort of critical mass it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:11   make somebody new buy this thing someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   who previously didn't ditch their cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   subscription and make them ditch it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:16   get this thing and get the cooperation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19   from all that you know like it you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20   ok you want to make an application for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   Apple TV said it can't be like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23   existing apps you have to provide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   have to hook into some Universal thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   where we can keep track of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:27   what you're providing what shows are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   available in the NFL app what shows are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   available this new feed in to us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:32   then we make it all available through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34   Universal Search tour iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   infrastructure and you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:37   different than what they're doing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:38   which is like you know MLB can make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41   app and you can't search inside that MLB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   app there's they're not talking to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:45   and telling some master server what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:47   baseball games are airing when right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:51   that I think that's the model that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   people want and that's that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   minimum they need to make this app model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:57   work is some sort of centralized thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59   that eliminates this nesting doll island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:02   problem nesting doll island maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:11   nesting doll is a bad example I just saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:12   I just like I think it's a good one my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   graphic of a nesting doll thing or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:16   cartoon in the net it was like a nesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:19   doll laying down on a table to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:22   little ultrasound like you do see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   big picture the baby and the doctor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:26   holding the ultrasound thing on me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:28   the stomach of the nesting doll and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:30   the screen you see a picture of a doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32   holding the ultrasound thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34   stomach of nesting doll in front of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   screen that has a picture of a doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:37   holding the stomach when I'm asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:38   though that's right I just described a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   visual joke is a new frontier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:43   podcasting I'll put that in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:46   notes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:47   Marlin could've pulled that off I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   I think you did fine yeah so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:52   about it though we're about 90 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:53   how much I suffer so for a show more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:57   thing before you wrap up well I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:58   gonna say so first show where you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   you were not prepared for it you had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   notes you had no links you're expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   a guest think he did okay well I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:08   him stuff as an unlimited font of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:09   hangar for me and I bring something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:11   yes yesterday during I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:13   during rubriz podcast yesterday was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:14   yesterday yes so there was someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17   the chat room was actually an employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:18   of TiVo that's true we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:20   about TiVo stuff as soon as you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:22   Otis it's not you're coming apart all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24   the company he's not the CEO right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   don't want to yell at individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:27   employee like and he basically agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:29   with anything all the complaints I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:30   to say but he can't you know I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:31   it's like the worker you can't just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   in there I know because you work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:34   you're gonna yell at you because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:35   like it anything about TiVo right and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   was very helpful in wanted to say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38   you know you could contact me privately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   and what we can talk about but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:43   it's not he's not his fault he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   CEO he's not running the company but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:46   it's all I could do from just being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   look finally a you know contact was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   kind of like Apple where it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:51   black hole where I fell out all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:52   Tebow surveys and I could plan on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54   podcast but it's like nothing happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   like there's no engagement with TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:57   about what problems are and so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5457">TS</a>]

01:31:01   you know keep myself from just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02   harangue this poor person was very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   in the chat room too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:06   tolerate my annoying typing about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08   so that's why I think I had no problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:11   talking about things here now if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:12   think I was angry about the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:15   stuff and Apple TV I am just as upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   about the Steve Jobs bio so if we do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:20   to do a show on that even if Margo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   John have both talked about it ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:23   infinitum and said exactly what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25   going to say I'm going to say it too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   then we have the guest wild-card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:29   situation yes this contacted me during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:31   the show and so I don't know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   going to do maybe we'll try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:33   reschedule figure it out yeah siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:40   on twitter i'm dan benjamin on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5500">TS</a>]

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01:32:01   in a while there's a bunch to see John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   sir Cuse is on like eight eight or nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   shows now quickly catching up to me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:10   else you got that's it all right we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:16   have a good week everybody thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   tuning in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:26   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnQQcK8/5546">TS</a>]