00:00:04 ◼ ► you're listening to hypercritical weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4">TS</a>]
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00:00:10 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► destroyed by my co-host John siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► I'm Dan benjamin today is october 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► 2011 this is episode number 39 we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/21">TS</a>]
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00:00:40 ◼ ► software for every platform out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/40">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► are you doing John just fine how's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/44">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► same as always productive productive at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► work oh yeah well this is a good show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/53">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► that's a talk show line you guys switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► modes you're in hyper critical mode well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/67">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► you're not talking I'm getting ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► oh you know what you know what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► actually on time today I actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► sitting here waiting for you to call and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/77">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► exactly noon uh John's phone rang and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► he's just so not used to us running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► ahead of schedule a TV shows actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► 12:01 according to now I right here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► this on this skype box I can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/87">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► seconds we've been recording so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► quite 11:01 yet alright or 12:01 in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/96">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► time alright so we ready now I'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► recording it's already started man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► you usually do the intro I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► required you recorded it but you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► tell me I was so ready for you this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/110">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► I'm like got all my ducks in a row this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► time John's not gonna know what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► I switched back to show bot that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► to look at titles for faith show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► everything I'm not editing any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/118">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► for those who don't know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► talking about you can listen to episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► 5 of geek Friday on 5x5 and you'll know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► you'll know everything in their haste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► look I cross promoted the show there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► go boo synergy alright follow up follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► up all from last week the first item of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► follow up at the very beginning of last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► show and a similar type of tangential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► not really related to anything segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► although I think it was spawned by you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► remember how it came up anyway we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► talking about flu shots and stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► got a couple complaints about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► one listener in particular was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► angry about that segment of the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► had asked me we talked about flu shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► or our kids are getting them or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► and you'd asked me if you thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► worthwhile and I started pondering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► thinking out loud like oh no well I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► to not get flu shots and now I do but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► get colds all the time and I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► you don't get pretentious yeah I'm cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► and while I'm talking out loud you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► you kept asking me about whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► thought flu shots were rented the cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► and I was just ignoring you I was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► moved on to the next segment and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► then this particular listener was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► are you trying to say that the flu shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► no I did two of us were talking past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► each other in that segment and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/199">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► clear to me during the segment when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► back and went back and listened to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► you could see how someone might get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► impression so I got that same impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► right and I didn't understand what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► were asking about because like what now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/208">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► so what I was talking about was it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► the flu shot worthwhile I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► like overall does the winter season do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/214">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► feel better or worse during the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► season when they get a flu shot or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/220">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► and what I was getting at was regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► whether or not I get a flu shot in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► words regardless of whether or not I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/224">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► the flu this season is dominated for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► by a series of annoying Colts which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► entirely different family of viruses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► as long as did with the flu shot and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► I said well when I didn't get the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/234">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► shot I felt miserable the whole winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► and when I did get it I felt miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/237">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► the whole winter so maybe the flu shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► is protecting me from getting the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► but I felt like the flu was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► dominant factor in my happiness during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► cold and flu season so that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► getting at so if people who are confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/252">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► the flu shot does not protect you from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► cold and I also said that it practicum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► one particular strain of flu would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► apparently put several different strains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► in the flu shot some people said three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► some people said five some of the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► rooms saying ooh felt better because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► didn't get the flu I don't know I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► to not get the flu shot ever and did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► get a flu during those times at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► so if you got the flu you wouldn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► it maybe I just never got it maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► not susceptible to it maybe my colds are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► differentiating the symptoms I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► comparing like before the time when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► used to get flu shots because I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► got them before I kids once you get kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► you kind of get into that flu shot cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► where the kids are getting him and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► everything so anyway I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► clarify that point so everyone is clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► on the the efficacy of the flu shot I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► heard that if you if you don't get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► of colds if you only get one over a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► or two that it'll be way worse than if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► you get them a lot good because I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► calls constantly and the symptoms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► very similar to flu symptoms it depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► on what age you are and everything so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► you go to a doctor they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► know they're not the same well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► know so you're right there some that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► all specific to the flu like it but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► you have the flu you feel like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► run over by a truck instantaneously yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► well it depends different people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► different effects like something gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► body aches and you just feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► can't get up some people children in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► vomiting and everything I get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► usually doesn't happen with the cold you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► know call it here's how you know cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► always starts with a sore throat dun dun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/345">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► see I don't sometimes my colds last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► winter I didn't I just had the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► nasal drip thing which is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► cold symptoms because I think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► viruses take root in your nasal I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► talking about things I shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► talked about but anyway yeah the sore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► throat you're feeling is not like strep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► throat is an actual sore throat where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► that infects that region of your throat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► but this the post nasal drip thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► where you're getting a cold and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► making your throat feel sore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► that anyway I don't want talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/373">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► germs right well I mean you and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► techno-organic viruses most of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► not so so what else has been going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► one other fog yeah so Star Wars blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► rays next topic how did you get these I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► mentioned a couple shows ago that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► debating about whether was gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► them and I said I probably would because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► I wanted to see the special features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/394">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► I wanted to have a high-definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► version of Empire Strikes Back because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► it was the least adulterated of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► special edition films and it is also my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► favorite even though they messed up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► color balance and a few other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► like well this they didn't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► content in Annoying ways and a figure be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► worth having and I had to buy the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► set that had all of the movies including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► the prequels in it just because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► special features are not included in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► original trilogy only set which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/415">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► really annoying so that I think last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► week I was complaining about the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► features that they put it in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► window frame and had the surrounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► stuff and that was annoying and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► still going through the special features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/425">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► this is just from watching these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► special features of the thing I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► can actually watch any actual movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► during the special feature segments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► they're talking about like the making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► Empire or stuff like that and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► show segments from Empire Strikes Back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► but they would show the high-definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► version so here I am getting tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► snippets of the new high-definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► version of Empire still having not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► watched it and they would show a snippet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► like they'd be talking about the Hoth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► battle she scene and they would show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► a two-second clip from the hoff battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► scene while someone talks over it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► they showed it to second clip I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► wait a second what is that gun turret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► doing there like there was a new gun you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► know though the originate so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► that even something as subtle as just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► small gun turret in the background is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► Right problematic I shouldn't be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► and I rewound it I looked at it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► and it looked like they added a CG gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► turret to this particular scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► like a little animation where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► rotating or something and and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► showed another scene with like a bounty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► hunter scene and they were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► how Boba Fett and how that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► came to be and stuff like that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► show Boba Fett and showed one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► scenes and and he says he's no good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► and it wasn't Boba Fett's voice it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► stupid Jango Fett's voice someone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► the chat room tell me whether the Jango [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/494">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► Australia I'm sorry that I can't tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► difference so they change Boba Fett's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► voice to be the Jango Fett voice which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► is horrible and they added a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► stuff and then they were showing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► other scenes but just a DAT Walker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► moving and stuff in the the sides of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► a DAT and other metal grey metal things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► look like they had a bad Photoshop D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► speckle filter applied to them like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► look too smooth and I said did they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► they redo all the ads and CG and replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► them do they just do they just put new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► textures on the outside of them and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► they just apply some sort of filter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► just looked off so apparently the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► time I've seen the last time I saw and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► Bryce Trackbacks must have been these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► special editions on VHS or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► like last time I saw the special edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► version yeah I don't think this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► was in those special editions certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► it wasn't high-def and I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► extra gun turret was there and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► they didn't add the Jango Fett voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► because that those movies hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► made at the time I watched it so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► are further adulterating Empire Strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► Back maybe that was already like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► DVDs to I don't know but this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► upsetting and so I'm even more glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► I got hold of the over those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► called the despecialized edition which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► are 720p versions of the movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► trying to be as faithful as possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► the original obviously the originals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► were only available in standard def at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/574">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► standard def and they tried to clean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► up and blown up to 720p it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► bit fuzzy it certainly doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► high-def it's not as crisp as these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► blu-rays are but everything looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► right way the Darth Baras lightsabers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► pink both has voices the right way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► there are no weird CG things added where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► disappointing I'm speaking of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/595">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► documentary movie which I wanted to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► forever which was only shown at film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► festivals maybe last year maybe was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► year before that maybe I've been waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► for two years it seems like a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► but this movie is called the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► documentary about exactly what it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► like it's about alright someone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/618">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► around with the camera crew and talks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► geeks and other people who are angry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► George Lucas I'm like this this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► was made for me why can't I see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/624">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► available netflix couldn't buy it on DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► couldn't get it was only in the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► festival circuit so finally it is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► out on DVD I think this week so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► go to amazon.com I should put a link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► the show notes to the People vs George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► Lucas I haven't seen it yet but I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► I will enjoy it one more bit here last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/643">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► show we talked about the TiVo premiere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► Elite his new series for upgrade of TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► and upgrade to the series for TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► architecture and I was quoting from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► linked to a forum post and I had looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► at both of those things but I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► done was paged through the entire forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► thread apparently the article is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► based on the first page or so of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► forum thread but if you keep paging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► there are many Corrections offered so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► last week's show I said that the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► TiVo premiere elite comes to double the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► RAM of the previous version apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► it does not the people in the forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► thread got confused about megabits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► versus megabytes or gigabytes versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► gigabytes when looking at the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► numbers on the RAM so apparently it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► the same amount of RAM as the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► and I think it also still has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► CPU and everything so I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► find an explanation of why why it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► much faster from the people's reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► that they use the menus and the menus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► feel faster and it is running a newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► version of the software and supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► is compiled with the newer version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► the compiler but there's still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► outstanding question is is the tebow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► hardware is faster or is it just faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► because it has a new version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► software and there's no definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► answer to that yet so I'm curious like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► if you wait a year dip will the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► TiVo premier get the new version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► software and it will be speedy or - I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/727">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► don't know I was and I was further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► frustrated by the fact that the tebow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► premier elite still has no built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► Wi-Fi what century is this they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► they're giving you a box that they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► they want they want you to buy their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► their third-party thing yes say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► like sixty bucks or whatever I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/745">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► just build it in but they took out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► over-the-air HD support the TiVo premier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► used to be able to decode over-the-air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► everything so they took out all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► supporting chips put in a Wi-Fi chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► it's got cost two bucks stick it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► there please it's it's ridiculous so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► yeah you have to stuff to buy the dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► so I'm still taking a wait-and-see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► attitude with the Premier elite I'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► it stew for a little longer before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► consider buying one and shifting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► around in my house yeah and finally Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► we talked a lot about Syria in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► feedback on that did you put these in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/780">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► the show notes or dude I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► remember any but I think I put that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► in there there's a bunch of Siri links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► there is a one for how Siri works which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► is kind of inappropriate name is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► someone speculating about how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► in terms of how the different components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► get recognized you speak sends it off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► a server somewhere after it's translated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► in as natural language processing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► think it's mostly speculative there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► good blog post from Kieran he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► sorry from angling your name Kieran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► Healy in our chat room about Syrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► practice what Siri is like for him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► use and it goes through a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► situations where stuff that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/814">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► think stuff the mumps some people might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► think would work ends up not working so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/820">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► for example I have to use the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► wording from these examples here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► it sounds too vague if you don't so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► you make let's see let's find a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► example if you make a calendar entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/836">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► that says Kieran volunteers at school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► right that's that's the name of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► thing your entry in the calendar and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► you ask Siri when do I volunteer at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► talking about if you ask it when does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► Kieran volunteer at school no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► they're just as Google searches for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► I found eleven schools nearby all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► if you say when is Kieran volunteers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/859">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► apparently that's the phrasing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► wants then it will find it and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/867">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► appointment that just says dentist which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► is very similar to the appointments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► tried to make my things on my calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► is like one word launch but you know 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► p.m. dentist right if you have a dentist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► appointment it won't find that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► guess even worse in this example his one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► that says when does lorry traveled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► New York right if you have an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► called travel to New York it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► doesn't find it so you say when do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► travel to New York still isn't find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► when do I go to New York no good even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► this case when you say when is travel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► construction that worked before man it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► still doesn't work it's a Google search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► all these examples would work with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► human right because at the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► say look is there any events anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► and the near future that anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► with New York like a human would figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► it out but Siri does not and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► that Siri does so well in so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► and that it's not actually real AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► expectations these things working and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► you if you end up having to say those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► and doesn't work all those times that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/937">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► when you start to question like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► actually being more efficient or numb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► and now am I playing a game by playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► game with this Siri thing but don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► think John that it's just a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/946">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► enhancements of that get better I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► right now we're starting with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► I won't don't you expect it whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► six months or a year from now two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► from now that little little things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► the way that you phrase it won't won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► they figure that out won't they update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► it won't they make sure in five to ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► years is nothing to ten is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► saying I always tell you fine again no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► whenever you ask any question about AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► they say yeah in five to ten years we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► have a statistical and they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► all right well see what I think Siri is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► more like as game development so in game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► development you have a lot of similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► situations or you want to have enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/987">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► behavior and providing you with the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► with a good battle and with the advent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► of multiplayer gaming in the past two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► decades this has become less important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► but it's still there the pathfinding how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► they work as a group how they react to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► your actions the way game developers do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► that's what game development is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► about it's like moviemaking you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► something that's actually really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► simple especially in game development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► you have very little cpu resources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► stuff to spare because you're using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► on all the other stuff that you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► so you can't do some sort of deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► academic AI that thinks for 20 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► you have like 160 milliseconds to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► all your AI decisions for all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► enemies on the screen or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► come up with heuristics and things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► are not easy for you as the player to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► figure out what's going on but that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► the enemies appear to be like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► bit more intelligent and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► series got to end up doing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► that's the actual solution solving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► real problem like actually making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► something that understands what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► talking about is way way way harder than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► anything that's going to happen probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► in our lifetimes it's the problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► have been worked on academia for all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► our lives and will continue long after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► we're gone and it's really really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► but you can make something that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► you know cheats and hacks and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► things that are not that nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► with the way the human thinks or and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► understanding in our sense but they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► you the right answer Watson is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► example that Watson has no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► awareness of you know it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► really smart heuristics that happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► win the game of Jeopardy right but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► you pose just an arbitrary question to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► Watson or if you replace Siri with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► Watson it would probably do better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► because Watson has way more computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► resources but it would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► slower because Watson is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► slower than Syria I think but those type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► of hacks and cheats where we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► intelligent we're not trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► something that's even as smart as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► cockroach like we're not we're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► that we're trying to make something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► performs the function that we want Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► to perform in a way that seems amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► but may have nothing to do with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► human would form the same task and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► that's how I think Siri will advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► it's not as if like well in a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► they'll figure it out in Siri will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► awesome and it'll be able to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► us no but in a few years they'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► their AI better in the same way the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► AI has gotten better in the same period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► of time because they have similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► resource constraints you don't have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► a giant supercomputer dedicated you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► need your answer right now and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► a similarly narrowly defined set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► things they need to do doesn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► be a general purpose thing it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► has to know about reminders and events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► and the few things that exist in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► world of the phone and the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► can do with phone just like Watson just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► doesn't know about Jeopardy questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► right now Watson doesn't need to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► calculus problems if you pose a calculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► problem - it will not give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► answer because that's not Jeopardy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► questions never ask things like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► I think Siri will get better but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► was another link in the show notes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► think I put this one in here from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► formerly not lead iPhone developer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► the standalone Syria application back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► when and it was an app because I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► before Apple bought them and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► headings of his article is how Siri is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► not really it's called it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► AI as a heading of a section where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► backing up my point of view and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► particular definition of AI where when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► he says it's not really AI he means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► same things I do it's not AI the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► science fiction thinks of AI as and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► really intelligent it's artificial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► it's trying to be intelligent but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► so with all the people telling me oh of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► course it's artificial intelligence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► intelligent that's not the definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► that you're using it's also not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► definition that the person who created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► Siri is using or developed at any we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► talking very much about something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► is self-aware okay not didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► self-awareness just now something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► smart as a toddler where you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► converse with it like you converse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► the with a toddler with or with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► five-year-old right we're I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► speaking of cockroach or the last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► looked into the AI field that was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► the level of intelligence we felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► we were able to accurately simulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► yeah like very very simple stimulus very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► simple reactions and even that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► debatable it's like well that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► the cockroach exhibits much more much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► more sophisticated behavior than your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► so that's I think that's demand more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► links for Siri let me see you put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► one in with Andy Rubin yeah talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► your phone should not be an assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► and all I did when I saw that link was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► just added a link below it to a Gruber's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► take on that because bridge I grew with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► hundred percent he's like what what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► is he going to say that's what Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► said and during horrible you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► another product has a headline feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► and he he's not going to say yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► actually pretty good that's just not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► competition works yeah sort of like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► when the Android had all this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► voice support and the iPhone didn't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► you were if you could ever get a comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► from an Apple person you would say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► do you think all this voice stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► Google's doing you know and in Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► anyplace in the UI you can just speak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► your dictation and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► they would have had if Apple was willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► to comment at all they would have had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► come up with some sort of answer and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► something bad like well we think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► technology is not quite ready and if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► were to do we would do it in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► better way or I don't know you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► say something that's not so nice to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► competition and a Gruber's example was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► how Jobs would always poopoo things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► before Apple did them like oh no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► don't want video on an iPod it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► small to watch and then when they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► no well actually what Apple would says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► nobody wants to watch a video on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► on a small screen yeah or nobody want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► the the e-book thing like all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► it's BS pointless and then they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► with iBooks and they make no mention of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► that so that's just this is competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► I don't put anything into that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► you shouldn't be talking to your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► um eventually Android volt and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► Google is actually head-on a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► these things I'm surprised they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► phrase that differently because Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► has clearly been really into the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► support and all that stuff yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► been for a long time voice support in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► Android and in fact I remember when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► the first signs of Siri coming out were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► were there that you know it was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► people were immediately saying which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► better Siri or Android now I also want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► to make a distinction is that their Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► and then there's I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► would call it dictation or speech yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► because you can go into any of Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► apps and any place where there is text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► entry where there little keyboard slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► up you now also have a little microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► so you can tap the microphone and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► dictate and it has a it has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► microphone so you tap you tap the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► microphone button and in place of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► keyboard there comes up a little just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► little a bigger button and you can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► which has a microphone on it you tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► that you start talking you tap it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► when you're done talking and it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► very very quickly very quickly now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► understand it's still using they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► still using the internet it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► sending that out for processing it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► happening locally on the phone or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► least most of its not but it sends that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► out to the internet and comes back very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► quickly with the this speech to text you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► know dictate dictation and then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► your text message or your email or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► whatever it was that you were composing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► I feel like there's a differentiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► like to me and maybe there isn't maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► there isn't a distinction but to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► would almost want to say that's not Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► text-to-speech it's err speech-to-text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► figuring out what I mean there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► taking an action or trying to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► answer or looking anything up it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► saying I heard these sounds and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► making them into text for you well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► half of because that's an important part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► of Syria like I think nuance there using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► the nuance stuff and nuance is the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► that do Dragon Dictate and everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► recognition engine and then they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► the language processing engine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► figures out what to do right so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► without that first half obviously Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► would not be useful so using the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► interesting way to say it but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► about the dictation that I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► is that so I have the dragon or I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► Mac speech dictator dragon dictator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► whatever whatever they renamed it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► when nuance bought the mac speech guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► recognition engine it even did before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► they bought them I think they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► licensed it and you have to train it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► when you buy it you have to read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► this 5-minute thing where you read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► it and it you know it highlights words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► as you read them and that eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► learns your voice and saves a voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► profile that's tied to both you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► microphone so this is you and the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► obviously doesn't have that training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► period you just take it out of the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► and you can go into a Notes app and hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► the little microphone things start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► talking and it'll make text and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► vocabulary is constrained is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► reminders and events and whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► you can do with Siri but within just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► generic dictation you could say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► you want I know there is a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► natural language processing component of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► speech recognition it's not just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► what what sounds did you make and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► word corresponds them it knows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► context it knows well usually after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► word this word is more likely to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► that word you know they both sound the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► same now what's the Rex a nice Beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► every other one wrec is a nice beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► depending on how you slow they can sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► very similar but one sentence is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► more likely than the other and so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► is and that Siri does the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► like in this context following the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► things they've said previously what word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► is a small most likely and and it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► constrained vocabulary so even within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► the world of dictation there's some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► of Siri like intelligence where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► that's just how the nuance speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► dictation works it's not just convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► it's consider everything that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► said before and after and what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► most likely sentence that comes out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► it's kind of fair to label all that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► Siri and yeah I can get back to Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► they've been gung ho for this for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► time on the Google homepage I think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► the web browser if you're using Chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► or whatever this little microphone icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► you can just dictate right into it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► they love this kind of they've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► self-driving cars too crying out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► obviously this is right up Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► alley else or it's not as if Google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► going is not interested in this field if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► anything they were ahead in this field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and Apple in typical fashion simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► packaged it better and got out ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► with just the parts that are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► attractive to users not worrying so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► about self-driving cars for now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► the sponsors for sponsors right up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► game minder do you game you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► app is for you this app game minder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► knows when apps are coming out games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► everything so you don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► about it you hear about a game even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► it's years away you search for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► game minder you use the reminder app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► a little let you know when it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► out so you can just keep playing xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► ps3 Wii PC Mac iOS even these new what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► does this one called PlayStation Vita [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► Vita and I don't know how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► it anyway they and they get the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► scoop on stuff so that's their first app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► game dot miner the second one is read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► reminders app but if you want more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► features if you want them tied into game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► minder if you want a more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► schedule more customization reminder has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1671">TS</a>]
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00:28:17 ◼ ► this episode and the link will be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1697">TS</a>]
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00:28:26 ◼ ► application of its time because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► kind of so it's going to remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► about games like you hold this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► coming out I want to I want to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► forget when that comes out so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► enough of a gamer to know that a game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► coming out ahead of time and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► excited enough about it that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► be annoyed if you forgot about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► or enough of a gamer to be constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► playing games like well of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► would never forget about that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► basically people like us who were big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► gamers when we were younger but now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► have a family and responsibilities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► stuff like that it's it's the casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► hardcore gamer you would be a hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► gamer if you have the free time you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► when you were in your teens or 20s or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► responsibilities but you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► miss that great game so you you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► application that is going to remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► I think of things like that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► although in one particular case I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► been waiting for a game for like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► years now it's killing me and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► need a reminder for it but sometimes I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► lose track of when it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► coming out that game is a Last Guardian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► from the team the made I go and shout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► out the closets coarsely possibly eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► depending on how you pronounce it people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► can read and tell me uh but yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► been waiting play game forever and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► just asked the people who are more up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► games I wanted when did they say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► coming out now I've got delay it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► or whatever so yeah the that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► for the casual hardcore gamer they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► use that line if they like although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► think it's probably insulting to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► people but anyway I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► useful what do we have and one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► thing on Siri we're talking about using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► Siri with Apple TV and problems inherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► in that setup where the thing is far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► away from you but it has to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► your speech and it could be other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► thinking of it is a way a way to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► the input problem because the input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► options for a television are not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► rich they just remote control with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► couple buttons or directional control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► and especially for things like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► want to turn it on and show some movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► for the kid people say well the room is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► going to be too noisy and you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► to have an expensive thing like an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► to be used what can you do a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► suggestions were like well put a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► suggestion was just you know pair it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► down and go simple and say look it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► always listening to you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► press a button to make it listen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► have to talk right into a thing and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► would be done and you can't do it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► the television is on people like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► what if the television is playing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► show and it interprets the speech on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► show as commands and people say well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► could cancel the audio out because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► knows what it's emitting so I'm sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► like a carrier sense multiple access in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► Ethernet where it would say well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► emitting this and if you know I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► cancel out what I'm emitting and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► anything else was on the line it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► there are lots of technical solutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► but I would simplify it I would just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► if you can't do it when the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► is playing and you have to talk right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► into a thing you have to activate a mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► for it and even that alone which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► primitive it's just easier to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► pick up the thing and say play cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► have it play the cars movie instead we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► have to navigate through 50 menus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► launch some application and find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► cars movie for you or you know record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► the Cowboys game tonight or something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► use herbage favorite team it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► that's which we had some syrian telogen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► swear it can figure out the cow who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► cowboys are if there's any programs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► the upcoming schedule for the night that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► have anything to do with cowboys or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► intelligence to make that work it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► easier than flipping through the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► and trying to find the show you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► potential for this I did like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► of putting a microphone in the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► and basically my my strategy would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► complicated make it very simple very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► constrained very limited and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► still be better than using a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► oh I've left up top down down right ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► Oh up up down down left left right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► that's annoying we hate that end and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► wouldn't suggest as the Google TV things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► we'll just give them a keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► keyboard on my couch I don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► slider remote that opens up into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► keyboard it would be nice if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► just talk to it and it would work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► someone made a web page with a mock-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► of that by the way that's I haven't any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► show notes yeah I think that's it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► anything else from now no I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► on to the new stuff the good the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► hi the next thing I have is that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► of follow up you so I want to talk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► little bit I clawed a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► about iCloud well you know I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► phones showed up last Friday week ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► and I've had a week to experiment with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► iCloud things I don't know if I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► able to answer all of your questions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► I imagine you've also been experimenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► with it there right yeah in a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► fashion mostly this is a reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► listening to back to work where Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► when off on iCloud a little bit.i and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► listening to his experiences because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► was brave enough to use the beta switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► I never was I was like I'm not putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► any of my data you know I did I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► either register for I club with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► Apple ID during the lion beta just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► see what it was like but that was such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► long time ago and I never put any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► fiddling around with stuff but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► tried to put his real data into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► run into all sorts of weird issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► one of his big objections was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► seems to have no it's not trustworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► and it's not as trustworthy as Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► because he's not ever sure what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► on in that other place he can see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► on his devices and on his Mac but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► never sure if it wasn't there until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► looked as kind of a shorteners cat kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► of situation where I said well if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► didn't look at that Pages document I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► just boarded a plane when I was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► plane I tried to pull up the Pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► document would it not be there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► would try to fetch it at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► which point doesn't have it versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► Dropbox Regis looks a little icons he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► the checkbox and checkmark on the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► bar icon and knows it's got everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► it's all synced you know that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► great title bed episode it's never not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► everywhere whereas with iCloud he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► so sure and I got him to likely know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► you wanted to lead a photo from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► photo stream there's no way to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► you got to reset the whole stream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► that is not ideal and I think I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► about a little bit how it was more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► a conduit and they weren't they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► want you to have it's not a place you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► supposed to think of like it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► they just wanted to appear on all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► devices they want it to work the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► Dropbox works but when it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► don't have as much of an a mechanism to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► reach into that middle place and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► what's there I manipulate it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► something I was going to do an iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► section in my line review and I cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► but what I would have put in there is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► understanding of the iCloud philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► from talking to people WWC and going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► sessions and stuff like that and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► how it is different than the MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► philosophy you know I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► did use mommy syncing a lot not I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► early on I did a few years ago but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► stopped using mobile me when I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► certainly by the time Dropbox was out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► stopped using it because I wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► know I'm kind of weird I guess in that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► don't use a lot of bookmarks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► only a handful of them it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► and I have that many machines I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► sync them back and forth to and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► for me that was the big selling point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► mobile me I never used I disk I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► used the photo albums anyway so what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► left I mean the stinking stuff I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► was great thinking address book syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► it in doing those uh you know I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► a lot with keychain generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► because I use one password address books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► thinking you could do with Google uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► there really wasn't that much value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► it for for value there for me after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► but it sounds like Merlin was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► trying to use I disk which is braver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► experience with a disk yeah and I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► did keychain syncing I still do keychain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► syncing your Jimbo's thinking which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► Gruber mentioned that he uses as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► and that the thing about mobile me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► sinking is it was so is very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► experience work although I should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► know there's an API just like iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► where the applications can use this API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► and you could choose on which machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► you might which things to be synced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► with a little compression Spain and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► little I kind of desktop the shows when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► difference is that the mobile me and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► Sync Services Inc infrastructure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► built on I think syncs the sync services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► predate mobile me maybe it was in a dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► Mac based to but I don't know it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► the same thing same thing the underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► architecture was that the sync stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► would run and so if you is pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► everything is in sync and then you go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► one machine that's disconnected from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► somebody's phone numbered end and a four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► and you want another machine and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► change that same guy's phone number ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► to the five right then when you sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► those two machines on one of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► possibly both of them you get dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► that says well one of these machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► thinks this number should be a four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► the other one thinks it should be a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► which one is right you'd be presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► with the conflict resolution dialog you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► remember that thing yes we would show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► would basically show your computer as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► five but dot Mac has a four choose one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► right and then it was a checkbox at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► bottom that says make the same decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► for all them so if you decided Mac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► canonical like oh I'm sure what's on dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► Mac is what I really want so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► just say don't don't ask me about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► during the sync process just go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► the rest of them and just take what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► but if you're paranoid you go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► each one automatic has this and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► that it would also prompt you who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► going to change a certain percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► the things like I'm about to change more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► than 20% of your contacts let me bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► up this dialog it says are you sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► want to do this here's what it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► like though Mac has these contacts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► you have these right Yojimbo was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► torture test for sync services I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► know if you call it great Apple to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► it great but your Jimbo is this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► I know you'd call it like a shoebox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► application where you can just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► anything in there you can put captures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► documents I think this PDF so all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► of stuff you can throw in your Jimbo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► some of these can be very large even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► just a big capture of a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► webpage but it will save all the images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► associated with a webpage and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► thing it would like you know get like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► web archive of it right and when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► Jimbo came out what you'd get was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► dialog would come up and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► dot Mac has this and your Mac has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► and what it would show is a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► hexadecimal dump of binary data of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► three megabytes of binary did and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► was over a certain size you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► spinning beach ball right in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► that review and dialogue and you'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► be able to do anything so now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► stuck you can't sink your Mac because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► the sink services can't handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► volume of data it's being asked to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► review the changes too and it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► matter anyway because you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► heads or tails of this hex dump all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► can really look at is the dates and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► oh yeah I remember I changed that over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► there and I should replace it on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► Mac you know that experience all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► part of that is bugs right same services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► not being good part of that is design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► where they didn't have an interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► where the applications could provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► piece of code that would say I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► to display Yojimbo documents so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► someone asks for diff on your jimbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► document use my code and splice diff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► know the same services would just fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► back to oh here's a binary dump make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► sense of that good luck so that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► missing features there and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► sorted out the performance eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► much thanks I'm sure to Yojimbo and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► of its users torture testing it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► know back and forth between Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► bare-bones to get that working and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► does work really well and I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► those dialogues anymore and it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► doesn't beachball and freeze anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► that took many years to get to though in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► many years involving all sorts of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► Merlin pointed strange incantations to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► reset things in the MobileMe side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► a hard hard reset of your MobileMe state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► to just wipe everything clean not a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► experience right now but but the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► design change that the Apple decided was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► a mistake with MobileMe with ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► presenting the user with a dialogue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► to resolve a conflict because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► you're making them make a choice and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► matter how good you make that decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► and how much information you provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► you've got a custom UI they could show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► you exactly the differences or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► regular users are not like programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► they don't want to see a side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► diff and make a decision and so how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► you get how do you get rid of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► still deal with the situation when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► have one computer that changed the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► number ten with the for one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► changed em with the five what's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► the answer obviously there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► some winner there because they the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► phone number can't be you know to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► two different endings right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► iCloud philosophy is don't ever show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► anyone a dialog box to ask them to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► a decision and that's in keeping with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► annoying like don't don't bother me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► this I don't want to hear about it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► but to make sure you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► iCloud basically has to pick a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► but to make sure you don't screw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► user over like say you pick the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► thing icon philosophy seems to be if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► have two things that conflict in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► way they're big hammer to solve this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► push loser onto the stack of versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► and then push the winner on to the stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► of versions so no prompts no information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► no decisions you're being asked to mate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► that's why this can happen when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► not in front of the thing like it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► sync to your phones by push to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► you know the device could have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► screen turned off is laying on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► right you don't want to pick up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► phone and turn on have 50 dialog saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► for you to resolve conflicts right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► says I'm just going to pick a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► based on some simple heuristic like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► know the least most recently updated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► whatever it rules they decide but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► doesn't really matter because I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► loser I pushed on to the stack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► different versions and your application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► and the api's you're supposed to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► you with a way to get back that old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► version if you decide wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► what's going on here right ah and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► WEC keynote they didn't emphasize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► as much as they emphasized the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► thing which was there's no place you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► or app you run or thing you do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► iCloud it's built into your applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► elves do the hard work to implement all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► this functionality to like oh how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► get back my previous version you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► pull the sync versions when I make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► change I push it down to the cloud when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► they launch the application pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► changes from the cloud all this business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► make it in the application so there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► other place to go and it just seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► magically work that's the ideal scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► but as marilyn is finding that relies on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► all the applications doing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► applications maybe making decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► about how to implement this stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► are different so if pages for example if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► if you can only get your pages documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► by launching pages and if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► launch pages it hasn't synced with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► cloud that's bad because that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► that's not what Merlin expects it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► not how Dropbox would work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► Dropbox is always running all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► they're trying to balance the need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► have some always running third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► applications syncing all your files with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► the idea that they don't want it to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► thing that you deal with they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► any decisions they don't want a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► thing that you deal with our place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► you go they don't want an eye sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► application that you launch and hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► sync button they don't even want like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► little sync process that appears they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► just want it to all be transparent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► when you violate some assumption like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► the network is always available and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► board a plane and you try to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► pages documented it's not there that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► an upsetting experience of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► Marilyn and me and you I'm sure would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► like to have enough control to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► internals to know that before I board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► this plane make sure my Dropbox is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► synced and then I'll know I'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► everything you know I see the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► checkmark I'm good to go on the plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► because I've got all the stuff locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► it's an implementation detail that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► understand right versus hiding this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► and having nothing visible to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► background process in iOS 5 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► pulling these things I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► for photostream but is it does it pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► pages documents or do I have to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► pages and maybe I should just launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► pages to be safe and even when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► launch pages if you saw your document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► listed another implementation detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► could be oh well pages just pulled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► metadata from iCloud it didn't pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► documents this is something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► thought does by the way because it wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► to be parsimonious with its usage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► the network and everything and so it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► only pull the metadata oh yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► document this is how big it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► here's like a preview image but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► until you open the documents oh yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► get into this paranoia mode very like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► let me just make sure I have everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► okay load it or did it load everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► or maybe the only loaded the first page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► I mean maybe I should scroll through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► it obviously it's us overthinking it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► we're overthinking it because we run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► into situations where stuff is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► always everywhere as Merlin put it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► so we get paranoid about it as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► about the implementation but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► implementation this whole thing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► grab bean or ribbon fingerprinting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► I talked about in the lion review is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► efficient way to to send and receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► just the changes to files and to chunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► them up into pieces so you you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► pieces don't all change when a one-bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► at the end of the file changes it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► shift all the bytes over in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► efficient about network access and data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► storage and not constantly running stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► but they're also trying to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► appear like everything is everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► there's a conflict between those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► and on top of that the never prompting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► for what you should do so there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► even any place you'd go reset just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► pull everything I'm gonna board a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► just anything that's in the cloud I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► got an hour before my flight leaves just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► just pull it all now because I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► Wi-Fi there's no button for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► there's no place to go for that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► at as designed I think these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► solvable problems and I think Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► choose the right thing of not prompting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► people those conflicts and having it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► trying to be automated but it's obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► that sometimes the assumptions built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► into Apple system are being violated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► like when the network isn't accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► and that sort of breaks the illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► there and I think applications need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► be updated to I don't know that needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► be like would you want pages to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► every single when your documents all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► maybe that maybe you have to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► sort of preference at that level or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► earthy I'm going to board a plane button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► or something like that but Apple might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► say well that's that's an edge case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► we don't want that at all and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► people are always near a network you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► know this how many times I offer you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► so we'll just pull it on demand because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► that's the most efficient way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► things it's upsetting to Merlin and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► may be upsetting the tech heads I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► how regular people will feel about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► transparency of iCloud I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► we have any and maybe guess they if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► had it off she's making documents that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► are being sync to iCloud or how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► experienced this well she's editing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► and it'll be interesting it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► be a while before anyone in my extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► family gets any iOS 5 devices because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► we're all using older iPods many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► which can't be upgraded to that but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► they don't have iPhones they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► using mobile me eventually they'll be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► iCloud and everything that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► interesting to see it what they think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► the syncing experience as I said last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► week the fact that you can do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► on one device like take a picture with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► your phone and it automatically shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► at your other devices and that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► actually works that is like 90% of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► battle for regular people I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► didn't have to do anything they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► signed and it just magically work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► the details about well what if I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► delete it or what if I got on a plane or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► are my pages documents really there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► much as that annoys people like us I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► think that's probably the 8090 percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► solution and those details are not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► to be that big of a deal source bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► writing software design and development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► services for iOS Android Mac and the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► source bits is at the bleeding edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► experience and successful track record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► makes it so that you have an idea you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► and get it done you just go to search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► they make it happen you have a webapp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► piece you have an Android version iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► doesn't matter they just do it they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► it all they do it right the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and they save you money because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► don't have to do it twice source bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► calm cutting-edge app development I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► him that that's logo slogan not logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► so generous it's their slow go they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► do whatever they want it's theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► they're gonna have to run with this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► sore spits calm so our remaining time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► I guess I'll circle I still don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► time I thought maybe I'd get to the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► ails Microsoft probably can't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► give some hints drop some hints oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► gonna do a Microsoft topic and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► creep up on I'll I still have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► straggling from way way back four shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► ago or something this is a long circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► from coming so I'll try to finish up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► thoughts on this Windows 8 video which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► ought to put in the show notes this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► a demonstration of Windows 8 from was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► a month ago it's a long time ago talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► about the UI the philosophy behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► UI and some of the things behind it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► have at the tail end of those to make I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► can fit those in here so I think where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► left off last time was on contracts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► contracts is a concept in Windows 8 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► it allows applications to work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► without knowing anything about each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► other there are lots of technologies on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► all platforms that fits this description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► for example the clipboard on the Mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► a mechanism like that you can copy text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► one application to paste than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► anything about each other never met like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► this an intermediary they both work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► the intermediary in the intermediary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► does the job of translating between and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► then mat clipboard does all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► representations like the the sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► representations then the receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► application will say which ones that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► receive but that's that's a very basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► together without knowing anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► revolutionary when the Mac came out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► application and paste into any other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► for some platforms like Linux say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► or it's still revolutionary but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► due to accidents of history maybe those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► a cheap shot that so contracts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► Windows 8 are a richer version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► actually before I get the contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► let's think about how that works in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► there is a there's the clipboard in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► right finally where you can copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► paste stuff from one place the other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► there's also this weird thing with URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► schemes where you can register a URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► scheme you just make up one instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► HTTP colon slash slash it's like my cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► app name colon slash slash and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► register that with the system then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► the regular URL opening API is find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► API that begins with that double sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► when I see this URL I launch this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► app and provide it with this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► that's a really rudimentary way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► can from one application like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► open a PDF and find any applet well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► that's slightly different than the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► where they figure out what Apps can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► primitive ways by registering URL scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► handlers or by registering with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► kinds of documents that you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► that applications can provide content to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► each other through this intermediary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► applications can handle which pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► protocols and which file right next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► engine so contracts is a severely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► cranked up version of that where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► middleman isn't just a clipboard and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► isn't just a registry of file types and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► it's the middleman with some rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► understanding of a few particular things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► and so you can I think what's one of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► what's one of the the contracts here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► may find a solid example so this there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► a search system service to search things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► and if an application it is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► searchable inside an application an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► application will write support for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► search contract and it will become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► searched and even go so far as to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► it brings up the UI for searching stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► application your application gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► chance to present its content the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► wants to present it or present a UI that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► makes sense within that application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► you know so this is actual UI component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► actual segments of your own code running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► to provide this interface I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► do it for settings too I could do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► settings as well like so in an iOS where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► you've got the settings application do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► you remember when iOS first came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► said oh don't put your preferences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► your application right put them all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► settings and Mac users were like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► got to leave the application to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► whether I want the background and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► thing to be light or dark well I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► just do it within here so now go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► Settings app setting app is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► something that defines data structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► that the settings application reads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► says I'll here's how I can provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► settings this other application oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► settings in Windows 8 use the contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► thing to provide its their charms on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► side or error to provide a centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► UI for all settings and applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► right to this the settings contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► thing to be able to present their UI in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► that context instead of just providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► data structure that I would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► have a chance to draw things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► screens though now the thing that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► contracts I'm probably doing a bad job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► of describing all the richness available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► in contracts because it's been a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► since I've seen this video my notes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► all the bells back but the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► the contracts made me think of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► I saw it is like so obviously this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► like clipboard on steroids or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► better than registering profile types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► and protocol handles like an iOS so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► clearly a step up in cooperation between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► applications providing more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► behaviors for cooperation and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► may be think of because I'm an old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► and an old Mac user was published and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► subscribe do you remember that hmm no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► this is maybe in the 90s I should find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► Wikipedia link for this so sometime when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► Apple was busy making strange new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► technologies but they weren't all really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► sticking like it was early enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► Apple was still doing really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► things but late enough that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► starting to do interesting things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► people would look at and go yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► know kind of like I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► before open doc before power talk if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► anyone remembers that probably not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► publish and subscribe was similar type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► of thing where there was a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► applications could say would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► publish something we'll use this publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► API and say I am publishing this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► graph from my spreadsheet application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► and then in your word processor the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► processor would say oh I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► subscribe to that graph from this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► application and then there would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► processing application that showed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► spread the graph from your spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► application even though you know the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► applications might not not know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► about each other they just happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► both support publish and subscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► some of the chamfers point out this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► very similar to o le object linking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► embedding Microsoft had a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► alphabet soup technologies which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► similar things and this is kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► believe publishing to describe it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► reaction to what Microsoft was doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► it never caught on very few applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► ever had publish and subscribe items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► that metaphor didn't fit the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► thought of it was because I just thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► it was funny that so the intent is to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► cooperated in a very rich way right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► know by the way the embedding thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► the poet is described is like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► updated that chart in your spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► it would also update in your word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► applications need not know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► about each other they just went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► this API but so what Apple chose as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► branding and the metaphor for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► something from the world of literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► or print you published something and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► other thing subscribes to it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► magazine or you or it you know it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► of kind of arty whereas Microsoft shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► contracts which has like a legal legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► connotation where well you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► understand here at Microsoft is legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► binding agreements between parties I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► wonder about stuff like that word does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► anyone think about the work did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► just have to pick a different name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► because publishing the scribe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► already used and and that thing didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► work is it I want to use that or and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► that's why we had to pick contracts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► is that the first thing that comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► mind and do they think about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► psychology behind their choice of names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► contracts technology itself I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► great thing for Apple to look at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► standing complaints from iOS developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► cooperation between applications they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► all you know they're all sandbox that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► sometimes it makes so much sense to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► them talk to each other and in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► that doesn't require you do it even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► you wrote both the applications in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► is hard it's hard to make them cooperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► but we the ecosystem will be better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► there was a standardized supported way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► for any application to do interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► things with each other and this this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► goes back to the sandbagging sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► argument on the Mac and the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► Store where people are cranky that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► new rules for sandboxing in the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► Store are preventing things that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► work in inter application communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► on the Mac using Apple events and script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► ability and stuff like that those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► going away I mean while on iOS people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► want more of that they would love to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► able to you know send Apple events but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► sophisticated way between applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► within the rules with it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► let me speak out of my sandbox let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► say hey I have something cool to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► application I would like to pop up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► menu that says would you like to edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► this picture in and then list all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► interesting photo editing applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► you can do that now with file types but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► they want more complicated types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► arrangements and contracts provides that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► so if and when Windows 8 actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► ship I think this contract API will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► the envy of most iOS developers of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► hasn't caught up by then that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► thing about the windows a stop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► they're showing a product that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► going to ship until like I think 2012 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► something I don't know how it made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► end of 2012 it's going to be a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► like they showed it long before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► ready to come out so by that point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► it's 5.5 or whatever out you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► hard to compared so Microsoft is ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► well my goal is not ahead until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► ship on an apple of shipping iOS 5 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► it's fair to compare iOS 5 with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► you don't compare with Microsoft has now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► so anyway I'll be interested to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► how things are when this stuff actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► ships but I think right now Apple should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► be that rabble should have been working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► on this for a long time because like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► said it's a long-standing iOS developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► complaint and I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► important because all these sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► and security stuff that Apple is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► is great but it's getting to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► now where I OS developers are feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► limited by by Apple's rules and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► need to figure out a way to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► a mediated system a mediated defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► system likes contracts where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► defined by the vendor and you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► do a certain amount of things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► have you know it's a limited API it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► not just like arbitrary Apple scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► application can just send an Apple event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► to the address book and say give me all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► your contacts lo I think you might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► better ready anyway o use it three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► different means but you can't just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► a wide open field like you code in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► Mac where any application can control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► any other using arbitrary code but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► don't want everyone to be so isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► well they are now more Windows 8 stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► notifications was another interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► yeah a place that was different they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► made they were had a big emphasis in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► Windows 8 to saying we don't want a junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► drawer of notifications and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► dig at what Apple's doing an iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► when android is always done where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► is thing this piece of UI you can pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► out the lists all your notifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► iOS users who've been begging for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► because they hated the stupid modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► notification it was gone forever and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► know oh wait what was that text I missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► it let me see my past six texts no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► so not having that it was a big deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► then Microsoft comes out and says well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► you know Apple just spent all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► adding this thing we're saying that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► a bad idea to add that we don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► junk drawer of notifications we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► don't want this place now by using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► junk drawer it's like it's language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► that's setting it up to be a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► without explaining really why it's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► thing other than saying oh it's messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► the Malheur thing when he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► about the finder where there was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► many windows in the finder I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► to be the janitor to clean this up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► right so just the way of talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► something there's an implied sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► it's bad without a real explanation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► why is why is it bad to have lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► windows Steve because there it's visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► clutter that bothers you or what if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► looking at the contents of both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► windows maybe two windows isn't so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► if I really need to see what's in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► of those windows you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► calling clutter to dismiss it over of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► course I wouldn't want that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► don't want to be the janitor I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► to have one window right but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► rephrasing in particular ways am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► calling this thing a junk drawer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► implying that oh it's a mess and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► just got a bunch of stuff jumbled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► there but it's you know it's really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► of a time order list of things in an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► five you can pick exactly what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► to appear there and how you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► notification to appear it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► very flexible and powerful and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► interesting but Microsoft's philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► as in many things Windows 8 runs counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► to what both Android and Apple are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and saying we want our notifications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► be on the tiles because they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► whole tile interface if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► remember what that is go back four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► episodes listening little business on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► tiles they say if it's important update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► your app tile you've got this big canvas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► on which to write stuff and you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► a small thing there when they zoom in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► the tile you can get more information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► application you'll see the full thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► like the fact that it's different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► I'm interested to see how that works but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► I don't like the idea of flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► through four or five screens worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► notification so just now what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► happened in the two hours since I picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► up my phone or my tablet having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► quote-unquote junk drawer full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► notifications is nice you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► say all here's everything that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► if I have to flip through and scan every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► tile is there a new notification there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► no is there new notification there no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► would be kind of like scanning through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► all your icons on the home screens on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► iOS device looking for badges and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► like tapping on those badges to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► information that's that's an interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► that Apple could have gone with they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► quote-unquote junk drawer thing so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► very interesting to see how their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► philosophy turns out in real life when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► someone gets a Windows 8 tablet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► Windows 8 Phone do they find it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► that notifications appear as tiles or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► it what are they're going to be begging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► for a junk drawer and again just a zap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► is adding something Microsoft is not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► much taking it out but saying we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► never going to do that background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► processing this is something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► presentation they didn't want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► about like what's running or what's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► that's why we were having all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► discussions and past shows about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► well is the desktop environment running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► until you launch it our different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► support real multitasking is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► kill your battery you know and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► talk about in when you're in the Metro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► land on Windows 8 with all these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► style applications my impression is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► applications are only running when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► they're on the screen and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► there's any guarantees that they're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► in RAM when they're not on the screen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► suspending everything except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► frontmost application I mean they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► to be because you can't you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► do everything can multitask everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► it will destroy your battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► especially when you have when one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► those things and the everything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► full-fledged desktop environment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► will just it would just kill a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► battery or even a tablet battery so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► are doing although I'm not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► as much it seems like they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► something very dissimilar to what iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► applications the only thing guaranteed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► to be running and in memory and will try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► to manage stuff for you behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► scenes they didn't talk so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► user the application developers writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► their applications to know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► restore their state exactly to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► it was which is a very important part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► iOS development and it's a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► part like it's a significant effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► make sure that if I hit the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► anywhere in your application when I real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► aunch that application I want to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► you back to right where I was before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► hit the home button and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► work involved in that apple provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► some help for you to do that but it's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► to the developer to do a good job on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► that wasn't emphasized as much in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► Windows 8 stuff maybe they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► consider it as important but it did seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► to me that they were saying you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► running if you're on the screen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► you're not on the screen and you may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► be in memory if you're not on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► cloud roaming before you do cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► roaming let's do our third sponsor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► Shopify calm the Internet's most elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► customizable an affordable hosted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► e-commerce platform this is what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► merchandise the t-shirts and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► things use it for high-velocity ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► before that I know a lot of other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► have used it too and because it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► to do you just want to sell stuff online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► don't screw around just go to Shopify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► calm you can sell anything it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► matter what it is anything at all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► handle everything they make sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► secure they've really awesome templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► that are free if you want to spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► little money and get a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► high-end template they have a gallery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► them there if your designer you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► design your own just use your own HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► and CSS it's a piece of cake to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► normally they give you a month free for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► 5x5 listeners they're giving you three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► months free use coupon code 5x5 go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► Shopify com sign up three months free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► and you can sell stuff during the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► months it's not like you can just set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► something up and total your thumbs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► shop in minutes of business for life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► Shopify dot-com it's easy did you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► him that Louis that slow go slow go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► administer life slow go my slow go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► them is uh it's easy I think uh staple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► to somebody already how's that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► Oh totally this is just it's easy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► plus when I say it I do a little karate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► chop gesture it's easy that works really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► well on a podcast yeah but it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► this logo alright it's tempting to makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► logo the title this episode but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► save that for later all right cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► roaming so when Microsoft talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► roaming the silliest the silliest term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► I've ever heard did you come over then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► it's in my notes I'm assuming I copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► it from something somebody said it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► underling so when they talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► base people like it I think I liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► and see what the audience liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► because they say things that make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► happy just like we all liked it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► Apple introduced iCloud and they and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► things they said during the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► presentation where the things we wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► to hear that you know that they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► rearranged that diagram instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► Mac being the digital hub now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► was the center the devices are around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► and this is an arrangement a mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► model that people who use Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► services like Dropbox have long come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► appreciate and say yeah that's the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► wanted to work that's the arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► that we like so when Apple said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► going to do that it made us happy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► similarly when Microsoft talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► this in the Windows 8 them well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► they said they gave some examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► saying like when you finish a game level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► you shouldn't have to play that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► level again in another device right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► when you change a setting on a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► you shouldn't have to change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► setting again like we do you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► remind me of this or don't show this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► dialogue like that I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► change that everywhere and that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► was them trying to say that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► everything you do should be recorded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► some central place and that all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► other devices should pull from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► that's the arrangement that we all think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► everything everywhere don't make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► don't make every single device be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► generalities like that most people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► thumbs up yep that's the way I want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► to work I love that cloud syncing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► just everything is everywhere steam does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► that for example with the newer Steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► games I figure what they call they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► some name for it but if you set up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► key configuration that you like for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► know playing portal and you bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► another machine and you install steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► and download portal onto it you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► have to reset your key config it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► already there because it pulled it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► the cloud and we're like yes that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► because we all remember the old days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► having to set up the key configs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► every time you install it or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► got a new computer replace the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► it's a hassle to do that stuff you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► want it to work and be automatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► they do something similar to iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► where they say I'm assuming this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► free that every single application every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► single Windows 8 application gets some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► small amount of per user cloud storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► first for the state of the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► for settings and a small amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► gigabytes where you can store like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► photos and everything but it's giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► you stuff for all the settings and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► small amount of content and enough state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► to provide that nice syncing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► yeah the Microsoft was saying all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► right things there and saying all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► right things even like we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► give you that that seems to be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► the price of entry now this gets back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► my point for many shows ago about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► how data centers and server operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► are now just an essential part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► thing you do with technology like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► very very hard to be it to field any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► interesting product that does not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► significant very important essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► server side component it's why I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► technology space needs to either have or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► be developing good expertise in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► areas of service eyebrows even something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► like I said well if you're an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► app developer and you make a to-do list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► application well the better to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► application that have server components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► you know they could just use iCloud even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► even they just use iCloud there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► server component maybe the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► component but that's that adds value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► an application like about something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► Instapaper where yeah there's a client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► application but the client application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► is nothing without the web service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► that's behind it and Marco had to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► that web service and he enhances the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► application by enhancing the client too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► but also by answering the web service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► they go hand in hand you can't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► you can't take away the web service so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► just want to write Objective C I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► want to do any of that server-side stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► because it's annoying and you get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► provision hardware and yeah that is hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► but having that expertise doing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► what makes your product valuable so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► cloud roaming thing is yet another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► instance apples Apple Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► releasing Windows 8 it's a great new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► operating system that's got this cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► new UI it's got all these gestures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► look at all these cool devices and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► got this contracts thing but oh yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► of course we have to have a server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► component and increasingly of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► there has to be a free version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► like maybe we'll charge you for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► entry-level feature that just every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► application every Windows 8 application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► gets to store their settings in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► cloud no no no argument no any visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► anyone can have it's free whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► Windows Live ID whatever they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► name to you know that's just that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► the price of entry and doesn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► Microsoft or Apple and you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► providing every application with a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► little bit of storage or every iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► user with free you know syncing of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► contacts and stuff like that well when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► you have millions of users that becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► a big deal and suddenly you're now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► the situation of figuring out how to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► giant data centers and scale them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► handle large traffic spikes from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► know Christmas morning when people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► stuff and that's just that's just part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► I think Microsoft is probably well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► equipped to do this I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► going to run into the same problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► we just talked about with iCloud we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► all right so this sounds great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► everything but like to give the example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► like when I change a setting in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► application I don't want to have to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► change it again well what if on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► Windows 8 tablet you say the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► and want the tiles to be this size like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► notification sent or whatever but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► your phone you want that setting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► the opposite I'm making up a setting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► off this is a real setting you want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► setting to be the opposite because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► screen is smaller do you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► ability to say actually I would like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► to use a different setting based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► device now normally I want you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► key commands to be the same in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► places where I run this game in steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► but for some settings it's device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► specific on my PC my Windows 8 PC I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► this but when is a tablet I want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► you know now they have a conflict like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► what we wanted to hide all these details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► application it's up to the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► developers to use our API stew right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► the cloud but does not the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► developer have to provide some setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► settings application all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► change is setting on and then a sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► setting that says but only on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► computer right like you're you're opting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► out of the cloud syncing for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► particular setting or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► that it becomes very complicated where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► you're merging settings together where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► these settings are you know what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► my default to be this but if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► override in this particular device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► want it to be that that that gets into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► stuff that only programmers want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► think about but it's a complication of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► cloud syncing I just don't think every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► one people have got it figured out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► Dropbox like well grandpa's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► figured out they do have a simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► scenario they just deal with files last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► updater wins they don't prompt you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► conflicts though but they do create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► those little I don't know Maura Marco I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► don't know if Merlin's ever seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► but I see it a lot because I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► careful with how I use Dropbox where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► get the it'll be the filename of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► parenthesis deleted in some big hex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► number have you ever seen that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► Dropbox well to pee I mean at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► point you'll be editing a document like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► oh and then you'll see it usually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► seems to happen after you save it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► what I'll get is I'll be editing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► document on my Mac at home and grok will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► be synced and everything and then I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► go to work and edit that same document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► but I'll happen to catch it before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► and when I come back home Oh wake my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► up from sleep the document has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► renamed in Dropbox to have parentheses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► deleted some hexadecimal no you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► have seen that but it's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► since I've seen that I have seen it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► the past and that's its that's dropboxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► way only it's really really big father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► no no small file like this like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► just my show notes because I update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► shows and you know the other thing I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► the same thing and to happen a lot yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► simultaneous updating when one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► is asleep and so you end up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► situation where there's a conflict and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► Dropbox says well I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► overwrite your changes like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► going to make the document that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► open suddenly disappear and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► because it's different but I've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► sync the newer one from Dropbox so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► just rename yours go off to the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► then I have to kind of do my manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► interested in that data or just say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► yeah oh that's old I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► that I duplicated that work elsewhere if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► that problem still exists and you do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► it if you push it too hard and get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► situations where again where Dropbox is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► assumptions like you know that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► computers are always online and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► resolve these conflicts sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► do just get things out of sync and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► just does that for you and that regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► user store they have no idea why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► said parentheses deleted or maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► continue editing that because it'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► that parenthesis deleted one in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► Dropbox and sync it like any other file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► but then when you having a looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► Dropbox fold you're like why are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► three of these files and two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► have this weird thing in parentheses at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► the end you know it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► people may not be prepared to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► but but it exists but Dropbox I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► has the simplest problem where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► awareness of them it's much much harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► when you're an application developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► you have things mean stuff like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► settings that mean things and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► settings make sense to be global don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► make sense to be goal but you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► to burden the user with dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► platform vendor says to make everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► sink but then your users complain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► it's weird yeah so this is a a frontier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► of UI development of figuring out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► best balance between not troubling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► people with things we're not supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► worry about and making them feel safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► for their data is safe but also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► sameness across all devices for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► that you know might want to be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► I still skip to the end of this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► was good they talked about Auto save and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► save stadia they're similar in Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► MetroCard they want you to alter save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► and they want you to save state and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► resume we talked about that it's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► larger points that I want to make about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► the Metro stuff okay one is I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► thinking about and a lot of people talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► about this but Android and Metro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► Windows 8 and stuff like that where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► say well what Apple is doing where for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► multitasking and now it's really limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► to multitasking and all these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► harsh rules they have to keep things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► responsive and to keep the battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► up something I've seen online in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► places has been and I thought of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► myself has been the idea that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► what's making Apple's devices better now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► and the people but the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► taking the opposite approach like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► Android just letting everything run at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► once and having the process killers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► Windows 8 saying you know this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► operating system that runs on desktops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► all the way down to phones and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► going to let everything run in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► background when it's on the desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► detrimental now in the long run will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► the clear winner because the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► available on phones bloated Vance just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► like it did on the on the PC we kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► like we set back the clock or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► rewinding five years but in five more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► years our phones will be as powerful as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► our PCs are now and our PCs can handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► they have the CPU they have the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► and stuff like that so this these rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► that apples coming up with now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► limiting things they're not stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► because I can just relax the rules later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► and they have a better they have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► experience now but in the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► everything wall running ones just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► dozen of PC we just got away for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► hard way to catch up and my objection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► that was always been that's all well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► good for RAM and CPU and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► but where you run into problems is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► battery battery in the physical size so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► this is some physics going on here where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► what is the best how much energy can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► store in it in a particular volume right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► and at what rate is that increasing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► know also we're going to have tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► nuclear reactors inside of tiny fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► reactors and inside there that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► burning matter directly into energy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► like battery technology is woefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► inefficient in the you know equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► mc-squared sense and my question my sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► of rhetorical question myself was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► well so what does that curve look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► compared to the curve for CPU speed RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► density and stuff like that and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► thought that that would be the limiter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► that Apple strategy is actually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► be with us for a long time simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► because battery technology is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► advancing at the same rate as those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► other technologies as the density of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► transistors on silicon and CPU speed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► all that business the battery technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► is just going slower now there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► couple of links that I found there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► was like a the Moore's law off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► batteries it was kind of like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► well here's the curve for batteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► actually it was surprisingly optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► but I don't think it was as fast as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► Moore's law for silicon and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► people said the Moore's law for silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► we were in for some trouble ahead as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► reach the limitations of the wavelength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► of the light we're using for lithography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► transistors like we're pushing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► against some limits and our current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► technique for manufacturing silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► meanwhile apparently battery technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► has been you know I'm sure due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► massive investment on the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► money involvement but making some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► good strides so it'll be interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► see how how that shakes out will battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► technology for our lifetime be the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► limiter and make Apple strategy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► long-term winner at least in our in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► lifetime and that they'll never Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► never relax all those restrictions so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► always have some restrictions in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► because you just can't make you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► batteries can't hold enough energy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► as low powered as you make stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► can't make you can't make the components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► so low power that they don't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► certain size of battery and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► make the battery any bigger because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► it's clumsy and people don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► even today we're so I see so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► who buy this $200 iPhone plus a two-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► contract worth thousands right at sleek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► and it's small and what's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► thing you do they slap on this lumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► Quasimodo backpack full of battery that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► makes it thing the size of a bar of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► soap but they need to do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► they say well I need to be you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► need to wake up at 6 a.m. and I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► my business travel or something I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► can't have this better your honor out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► I gotta get this Mophie Juice pack pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► box whatever thing that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► they've got to do it's great that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► can do that but it shows that even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► even with today's trade offs even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► today's strict rules about multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► and real limitations people still want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► technology is not keeping up with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► demands like if Apple if Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► provide a battery that provided 12 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► of web browsing on their phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► would do it like believe me they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► currently the only way to do that is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► need more volume sorry bad technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► such that even if we made the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► iPhone out of battery nothing else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► in is just a simply a battery we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► couldn't provide you with enough energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► and it to a good approximation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► what the iPad is if you open it up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► just basically a giant battery with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► screen attached to it and then these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► little dangly bits off to the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► iPhone is mostly battery but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► getting down to small sizes where now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► the screen and the CPU starts to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► a significant portion of the thing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► apple so far has not been willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► make things thicker like if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► inside an iPhone 4 the battery takes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► like the one half of the thing but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► battery doesn't run the full width and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► the full height of the case you Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► wanted to they can make the entire case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► you know four millimeters thicker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► make a full height full with battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► covering the entire back of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► maybe they'd have some problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► Wi-Fi antenna do something good I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► but yet that low battery would last a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► lot longer but the thing would start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► look more like a bar of soap and Alba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► doesn't want to do that so this tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► between how fast can battery technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► advanced versus how how fast can the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► other components advanced is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► determine whether Microsoft and Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► will have to rethink their idea of even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► having a possibility of just everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► running in like desktop mode you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► like you know Windows 8 tablet oh we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► get a big hunk in 14-inch Windows 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► tablet but a huge battery in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► then ever you and when your desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► stuff and how long does that last is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► last it suddenly become like a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► battery you know three hours four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► unacceptable if you had a tablet or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► battery lasted three hours now the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► reason we accept it on laptops is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► because we're just used to it that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► it's always been right so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► my battery oh my open question on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► battery technology I got to put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► links in the show notes do thee the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► and the next the final thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► looking at Metro windows Metro that UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► it really is the antithesis of typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► Microsoft design which is why people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► artificial 3d no no giggles no widgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► flat stuff nice typography emphasis in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► typography plain colors and just a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► look and looking at Metro maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► mentioned this on a previous show I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► just iterating it by looking at Metro it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► made am I looking back in iOS it made I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► always look old to me which is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► pretty pretty amazing achievement yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► products right like they come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► new product and you look at the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► you like all that space crap or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► pinstripes in Mac os10 right yeah I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► how did I ever stare at the screen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► pinstripes like it makes you it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► fashion fashion makes you feel that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► bell-bottoms but how did I ever have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► mullet you know alright so that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► is quite an achievement and that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► back to the whole skeuomorphic if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► pronouncing that correctly the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► business of Apple loves to make its you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► eyes look like things like the reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► things with the time they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► those flippy over clocks where if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► numbers slipped down and around uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► wonder if Apple will feel any pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► because there is now a competitor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► regardless of how they do in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► the look of their products makes apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► products look older and clunkier and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► can't remember the last time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► happened certainly it wasn't happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► with Android and herb is not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► apple stuff look older and clunkier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► this just through sheer simplification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► is saying hey Apple if we just fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► forward your timeline given current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► trends your UI should look like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► later because historically Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► with berries bumps in the road removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► stuff like that removed texture remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► attacks kind of reversing now is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► a lump and this is definitely a bump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► the road they went way they remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► remove remove moved all the way up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Mike I was 10.5 leopard and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► started adding back with ten seven and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► with the leather bits on the calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► OS 5 they're adding back like we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► pretty clean buttons in earlier iOS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► now that lending texture is everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► and our applications have these weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► papyrus looks and there's leather on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► stuff too and this little the flippy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► wish I knew what the name of those bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► you know the the digits where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► half the digit on one side and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► digit in the other when they flip over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► no I'm not I know exactly what you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► flicker digit I don't know the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► term is flippy digits but yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► adding like think about that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► adding that in there because someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► thought it was like whimsical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► interesting but it makes its heavyweight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► like you look at it in like the mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► weight of that stuff this is all artsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► fartsy designer e type stuff but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► it I think anyone who's a designer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► someone who's into aesthetics looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► that and then looks at the metro stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► and the metro stuff is like oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► like a breath of fresh air right and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► it may you may like the Apple one better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► and it certainly is also the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► looking flippy digits I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► right there the artwork is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► it is interesting and it's and it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► and it's familiar to people and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► it's a more successful design but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► feeling you get as an artist or designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► or someone who's into these things when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► you look at metro and that is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► them feels like weight being lifted off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► historically Apple has always been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► company that gives you that feeling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► look at Windows then you go to Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► you be like ah nice just finally what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► stuff is gone look at 16 color icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► all right great pebbles and stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► and this is this is a flip interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► flip that I still think I like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► iOS 5 looks better but here is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► competitor UI that they seemed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► competitive to giving me the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► that normally Apple gives me this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► have no significance because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► the other factors will determine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► success of Windows 8 in the market much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► more than this but it is a turn of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► events that I noted yeah put a marker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► the in the timeline of a technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► battle here marker on Microsoft giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► me the Apple feeling for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► so you're switching no I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► iPhone switching for what happen yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► there is one more minor point that I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► squeeze in here that Horus brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► from ages ago and I had in my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► his point was about there's still no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► competition for the iPod Touch which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► amazing because the iPod this is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► tweet of his iPod to apple sold 4.1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► million iPod Touches last quarter and 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► million iPod Touches in the last 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► months nobody else wants a piece of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► nobody else thinks that they can sell 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► million phone without a phone products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► alright that's pretty amazing that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► all this time Android and Windows 8 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► Windows Mobile and whatever Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► Phone 7 nobody wants that like we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► phones we make tablets there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► technically preventing them from making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► an iPod Touch is basically iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► without the phone with a bunch of parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► you know cheap and up because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► you know the subsidy from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► thing they could make that it's within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► their technological grasp but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► doesn't and it's not all we don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► it's a good miss 23 million units in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► year you can turn up your nose at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► nobody wants to make that uh I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► of the interesting things about the why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► is that why are they make it it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► that the weaknesses of those platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► because the reason Apple can make it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► it even without the phone and without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► the always avail always online stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► they have so many other strengths in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► media world where they can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► device what can you do with that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► play games in your house you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► download and watch movies you can listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► to music is it's an iPod all those media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► and application things make that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► worthwhile it's why I use it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► time so yeah I use it on Wi-Fi and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► do my web browsing because it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► great web browser I can play games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► run local applications and even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► not online all the time and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► download media from store and buy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► and watch movies and stuff like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► only other company that I think has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► those same strengths and canfield device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► like that is Amazon what would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► with an Amazon thing the size of an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► touch it didn't have any sort of 3G Anna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► you still do all the stuff you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► with it with the fire you read books on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► it watch movies watch TV shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► applications but Android I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► Android vendors are like if we put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► an Android phone that doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► phone what are people gonna do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► go to the awesome Android store and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► first-run movies that are at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► download music from our music store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► listen to stuff or play games like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► probably download a couple movies or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► you're a geek you can you know download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► and rip and shove stuff on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► it's all open and everything but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► not that that market is too small it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► not 23 but 23 million people don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► to download torrents and more we stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► them on their Android thing so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► always considered the lack of an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► Touch competitor as as an admission by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► the competition that their devices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► not valuable enough without the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► functionality to be a standalone product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► or at least they think it is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► they're wrong maybe it really would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► great seller if someone would just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► one and there were like Samsung or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► couple of people have had ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► competitor like devices you could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► that 7-inch tablets or creeping down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► that thing - I think they even fielded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► one like I don't remember the names like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► the galaxy something-or-other blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► was like it was like a Samsung phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► without the phone but didn't didn't set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► the world on fire right yeah so I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► lack of iPod Touch competitors is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► something I will continue to watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► what it says about the competition's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► confidence and the actuality of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► ability to compete with Apple I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► very interesting we were over time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► think I probably finally I skipped a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► bunch of Windows 8 stuff believe it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► not actually skip our tablet yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► think we're done with it finally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► then next week if no one else dies or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► other major software is released or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► one else is interesting podcast that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► want to comment on I'll talk about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► ails Microsoft all right what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► Microsoft potentially seven days for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► and if you're new to this show you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► go to 5x5 odd TV slash hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► there's not including this 138 episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► for you to get caught up on how many how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► many would they have to listen to a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► between now in the next week to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► fully caught up you know I recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► caught up on a podcast that I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► realized existed and it takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► time to get caught up on yes but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► worth it just resign yourself to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► being caught up for six months and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► go through it let's go sir get kana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► every excuse to work out a little longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► welcome to treadmill a little bit longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► when we listen to one episode a day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► lengthen your commute perhaps take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► take the scenic route someone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► chat room gives the name of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► was called the Galaxy player yes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► was the thing I was thinking of huh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► it counts but that's on 23 million of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5454">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► siracusa on twitter SI RAC USA I'm Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► Benjamin on Twitter and lots of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► shows for you and 5x5 should go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► and comparable that's a good one to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► caught up on you're John siracusa in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► whole different whole different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► whole different light seems a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► similar not really you really come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► of your shell on that show mm-hm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► were on fire today though here this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► good one just one for the record books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► today alright well thanks everybody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5498">TS</a>]