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39: Quasimodo Backpack

 

00:00:04 ◼   ► you're listening to hypercritical weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07 ◼   ► talkshow ruminating on exactly what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► wrong in the world of Apple related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/9">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► so perfect that it can't be utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► destroyed by my co-host John siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► I'm Dan benjamin today is october 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► 2011 this is episode number 39 we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/21">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► like to say a quick thank you to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/25">TS</a>]

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00:00:35 ◼   ► ecommerce platform in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/35">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► source bits calm these guys make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► software for every platform out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► are you doing John just fine how's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/44">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► week been same as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► same as always productive productive at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► work oh yeah well this is a good show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/53">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► that's what you do a talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► that's a talk show line you guys switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► modes you're in hyper critical mode well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► you're not talking I'm getting ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► oh you know what you know what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► ladies and gentlemen is that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► actually on time today I actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► sitting here waiting for you to call and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► exactly noon uh John's phone rang and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► he's just so not used to us running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► ahead of schedule a TV shows actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► 12:01 according to now I right here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► this on this skype box I can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► right here is it synched with time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► that'll calm three minutes and 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► seconds we've been recording so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► quite 11:01 yet alright or 12:01 in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/96">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► time alright so we ready now I'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► recording it's already started man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► you usually do the intro I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► required you recorded it but you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► tell me I was so ready for you this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/110">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► I'm like got all my ducks in a row this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► time John's not gonna know what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► I switched back to show bot that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► to look at titles for faith show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► everything I'm not editing any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► out either right marker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/121">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► for those who don't know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► talking about you can listen to episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► 5 of geek Friday on 5x5 and you'll know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/129">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► you'll know everything in their haste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► look I cross promoted the show there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► go boo synergy alright follow up follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/137">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► up all from last week the first item of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/141">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► follow up at the very beginning of last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► show and a similar type of tangential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► not really related to anything segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► although I think it was spawned by you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► remember how it came up anyway we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► talking about flu shots and stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/155">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► got a couple complaints about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► one listener in particular was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► angry about that segment of the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► had asked me we talked about flu shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► or our kids are getting them or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► and you'd asked me if you thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/170">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► worthwhile and I started pondering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► thinking out loud like oh no well I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► to not get flu shots and now I do but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► get colds all the time and I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► you don't get pretentious yeah I'm cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► and while I'm talking out loud you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► you kept asking me about whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► thought flu shots were rented the cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► and I was just ignoring you I was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► moved on to the next segment and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► then this particular listener was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► are you trying to say that the flu shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► prevents a cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17 ◼   ► no I did two of us were talking past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19 ◼   ► each other in that segment and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► clear to me during the segment when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► back and went back and listened to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► you could see how someone might get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/203">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► impression so I got that same impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► right and I didn't understand what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► were asking about because like what now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► so what I was talking about was it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/209">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► the flu shot worthwhile I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► like overall does the winter season do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/214">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► feel better or worse during the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► season when they get a flu shot or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► and what I was getting at was regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► whether or not I get a flu shot in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► words regardless of whether or not I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► the flu this season is dominated for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► by a series of annoying Colts which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► entirely different family of viruses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► as long as did with the flu shot and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► I said well when I didn't get the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► shot I felt miserable the whole winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► and when I did get it I felt miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58 ◼   ► the whole winter so maybe the flu shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► is protecting me from getting the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► but I felt like the flu was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► dominant factor in my happiness during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► cold and flu season so that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► getting at so if people who are confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► the flu shot does not protect you from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► cold and I also said that it practicum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► one particular strain of flu would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► apparently put several different strains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► in the flu shot some people said three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► some people said five some of the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► rooms saying ooh felt better because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► didn't get the flu I don't know I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► to not get the flu shot ever and did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► get a flu during those times at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► so if you got the flu you wouldn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► it maybe I just never got it maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► not susceptible to it maybe my colds are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► very bad and I have difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► differentiating the symptoms I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► comparing like before the time when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► used to get flu shots because I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/285">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► got them before I kids once you get kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► you kind of get into that flu shot cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► where the kids are getting him and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► might as well get them too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/291">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► everything so anyway I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► clarify that point so everyone is clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► on the the efficacy of the flu shot I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► heard that if you if you don't get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/301">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► of colds if you only get one over a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► or two that it'll be way worse than if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► you get them a lot good because I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► calls constantly and the symptoms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► very similar to flu symptoms it depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/312">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► on what age you are and everything so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► you go to a doctor they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/319">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► know they're not the same well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► know so you're right there some that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► all specific to the flu like it but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► you have the flu you feel like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► run over by a truck instantaneously yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► well it depends different people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► different effects like something gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33 ◼   ► body aches and you just feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► can't get up some people children in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► particular can get nauseated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► vomiting and everything I get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► usually doesn't happen with the cold you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► know call it here's how you know cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► always starts with a sore throat dun dun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/345">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► see I don't sometimes my colds last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► winter I didn't I just had the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► nasal drip thing which is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/356">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► cold symptoms because I think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► viruses take root in your nasal I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► talking about things I shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► talked about but anyway yeah the sore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► throat you're feeling is not like strep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► throat is an actual sore throat where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► that infects that region of your throat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► but this the post nasal drip thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► where you're getting a cold and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► making your throat feel sore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► that anyway I don't want talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► germs right well I mean you and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► you also are susceptible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► techno-organic viruses most of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► not so so what else has been going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► one other fog yeah so Star Wars blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► rays next topic how did you get these I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► mentioned a couple shows ago that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► debating about whether was gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► them and I said I probably would because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/391">TS</a>]

00:06:32 ◼   ► the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► I wanted to see the special features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► I wanted to have a high-definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► version of Empire Strikes Back because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► it was the least adulterated of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► special edition films and it is also my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► favorite even though they messed up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► color balance and a few other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► like well this they didn't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► content in Annoying ways and a figure be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► worth having and I had to buy the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► set that had all of the movies including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► the prequels in it just because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► special features are not included in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► original trilogy only set which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► really annoying so that I think last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► week I was complaining about the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► features that they put it in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► window frame and had the surrounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► stuff and that was annoying and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► still going through the special features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► this is just from watching these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► special features of the thing I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► can actually watch any actual movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► during the special feature segments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/432">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► they're talking about like the making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► Empire or stuff like that and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► show segments from Empire Strikes Back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► but they would show the high-definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► version so here I am getting tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► snippets of the new high-definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► version of Empire still having not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► watched it and they would show a snippet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► like they'd be talking about the Hoth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► battle she scene and they would show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► a two-second clip from the hoff battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► scene while someone talks over it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► they showed it to second clip I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► wait a second what is that gun turret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► doing there like there was a new gun you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► know though the originate so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► that even something as subtle as just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► small gun turret in the background is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► Right problematic I shouldn't be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► and I rewound it I looked at it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► and it looked like they added a CG gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► turret to this particular scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► like a little animation where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► rotating or something and and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/475">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► showed another scene with like a bounty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► hunter scene and they were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/480">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► how Boba Fett and how that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► came to be and stuff like that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► show Boba Fett and showed one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► scenes and and he says he's no good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► me dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/488">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► and it wasn't Boba Fett's voice it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/488">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► stupid Jango Fett's voice someone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► the chat room tell me whether the Jango [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► Fett actor is from New Zealand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► Australia I'm sorry that I can't tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► difference so they change Boba Fett's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► voice to be the Jango Fett voice which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► is horrible and they added a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► stuff and then they were showing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► other scenes but just a DAT Walker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/507">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► moving and stuff in the the sides of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► a DAT and other metal grey metal things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► look like they had a bad Photoshop D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► speckle filter applied to them like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► look too smooth and I said did they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► they redo all the ads and CG and replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► them do they just do they just put new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► textures on the outside of them and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/525">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► rotoscope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► they just apply some sort of filter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► just looked off so apparently the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► time I've seen the last time I saw and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► Bryce Trackbacks must have been these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► special editions on VHS or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► like last time I saw the special edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► version yeah I don't think this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► was in those special editions certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► it wasn't high-def and I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► extra gun turret was there and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► they didn't add the Jango Fett voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► because that those movies hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► made at the time I watched it so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► are further adulterating Empire Strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► Back maybe that was already like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► DVDs to I don't know but this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► upsetting and so I'm even more glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► I got hold of the over those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► called the despecialized edition which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► are 720p versions of the movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/567">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► trying to be as faithful as possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► the original obviously the originals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► were only available in standard def at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► this time right so they had take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39 ◼   ► standard def and they tried to clean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/579">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► up and blown up to 720p it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► bit fuzzy it certainly doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/582">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► high-def it's not as crisp as these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► blu-rays are but everything looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► right way the Darth Baras lightsabers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► pink both has voices the right way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► there are no weird CG things added where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► they don't need to be so kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► disappointing I'm speaking of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/595">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► appointment front apparently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► documentary movie which I wanted to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► forever which was only shown at film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► festivals maybe last year maybe was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► year before that maybe I've been waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► for two years it seems like a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► but this movie is called the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13 ◼   ► versus George Lucas and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► documentary about exactly what it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► like it's about alright someone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/618">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► around with the camera crew and talks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► geeks and other people who are angry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► George Lucas I'm like this this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► was made for me why can't I see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/624">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► couldn't find it anywhere wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► available netflix couldn't buy it on DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31 ◼   ► couldn't get it was only in the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► festival circuit so finally it is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/632">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► out on DVD I think this week so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► go to amazon.com I should put a link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► the show notes to the People vs George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► Lucas I haven't seen it yet but I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► I will enjoy it one more bit here last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/643">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► show we talked about the TiVo premiere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► Elite his new series for upgrade of TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/651">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► and upgrade to the series for TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► architecture and I was quoting from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► article that I'd found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► linked to a forum post and I had looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► at both of those things but I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► done was paged through the entire forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► thread apparently the article is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► based on the first page or so of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► forum thread but if you keep paging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► there are many Corrections offered so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► last week's show I said that the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► TiVo premiere elite comes to double the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► RAM of the previous version apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► it does not the people in the forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► thread got confused about megabits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► versus megabytes or gigabytes versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► gigabytes when looking at the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► numbers on the RAM so apparently it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► the same amount of RAM as the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► and I think it also still has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► CPU and everything so I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► find an explanation of why why it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► much faster from the people's reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► that they use the menus and the menus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► feel faster and it is running a newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► version of the software and supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► is compiled with the newer version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► the compiler but there's still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► outstanding question is is the tebow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► premier elite faster because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51 ◼   ► hardware is faster or is it just faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► because it has a new version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► software and there's no definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► answer to that yet so I'm curious like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► if you wait a year dip will the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/722">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► TiVo premier get the new version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► software and it will be speedy or - I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► don't know I was and I was further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/728">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► frustrated by the fact that the tebow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► premier elite still has no built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► Wi-Fi what century is this they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► they're giving you a box that they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► they want they want you to buy their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► their third-party thing yes say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► like sixty bucks or whatever I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► just build it in but they took out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► over-the-air HD support the TiVo premier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► used to be able to decode over-the-air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► HD signals and record them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► everything so they took out all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► supporting chips put in a Wi-Fi chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► it's got cost two bucks stick it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► there please it's it's ridiculous so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► yeah you have to stuff to buy the dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► so I'm still taking a wait-and-see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► attitude with the Premier elite I'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► it stew for a little longer before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► consider buying one and shifting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► around in my house yeah and finally Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/772">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► we talked a lot about Syria in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► few episodes and we got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► feedback on that did you put these in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► the show notes or dude I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► remember any but I think I put that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► in there there's a bunch of Siri links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► there is a one for how Siri works which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► is kind of inappropriate name is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► someone speculating about how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► in terms of how the different components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► work you don't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► get recognized you speak sends it off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► a server somewhere after it's translated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► in as natural language processing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► think it's mostly speculative there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► good blog post from Kieran he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► sorry from angling your name Kieran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► Healy in our chat room about Syrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/806">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► practice what Siri is like for him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► use and it goes through a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► situations where stuff that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/814">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► think stuff the mumps some people might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► think would work ends up not working so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/820">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► for example I have to use the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► wording from these examples here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► it sounds too vague if you don't so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/828">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► you make let's see let's find a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► example if you make a calendar entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/836">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► that says Kieran volunteers at school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► right that's that's the name of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► thing your entry in the calendar and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► you ask Siri when do I volunteer at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► school it has no idea what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► talking about if you ask it when does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► Kieran volunteer at school no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► they're just as Google searches for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► I found eleven schools nearby all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► if you say when is Kieran volunteers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/859">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► school which sounds unnatural but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► apparently that's the phrasing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► wants then it will find it and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/867">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► similar example if you make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► appointment that just says dentist which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► is very similar to the appointments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► tried to make my things on my calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► is like one word launch but you know 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► p.m. dentist right if you have a dentist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/881">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► you can't say when is my dentist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► appointment it won't find that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► guess even worse in this example his one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► that says when does lorry traveled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/889">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► New York right if you have an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► called travel to New York it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► doesn't find it so you say when do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► travel to New York still isn't find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► when do I go to New York no good even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► this case when you say when is travel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► New York which is exactly the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► construction that worked before man it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► still doesn't work it's a Google search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► all these examples would work with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► human right because at the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► say look is there any events anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► and the near future that anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► with New York like a human would figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► it out but Siri does not and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► that Siri does so well in so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► contexts can make even people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28 ◼   ► and that it's not actually real AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► expectations these things working and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► you if you end up having to say those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► four different phrasings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/936">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► and doesn't work all those times that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► when you start to question like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► actually being more efficient or numb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► and now am I playing a game by playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► game with this Siri thing but don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► think John that it's just a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► time before the refinements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► enhancements of that get better I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► right now we're starting with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► that's you know very very new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► I won't don't you expect it whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► six months or a year from now two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► from now that little little things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► the way that you phrase it won't won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► they figure that out won't they update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► it won't they make sure in five to ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► years is nothing to ten is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► saying I always tell you fine again no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► whenever you ask any question about AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► they say yeah in five to ten years we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► have a statistical and they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► saying that since 1972 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► all right well see what I think Siri is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► more like as game development so in game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26 ◼   ► development you have a lot of similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/986">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► situations or you want to have enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► in a game exhibiting intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► behavior and providing you with the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► with a good battle and with the advent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► of multiplayer gaming in the past two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► decades this has become less important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► but it's still there the pathfinding how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► they work as a group how they react to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► your actions the way game developers do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► it is they cheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► that's what game development is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► about it's like moviemaking you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► you have to cheat you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► something that's actually really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► simple especially in game development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► you have very little cpu resources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► stuff to spare because you're using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► on all the other stuff that you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► so you can't do some sort of deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► academic AI that thinks for 20 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► you have like 160 milliseconds to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► all your AI decisions for all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► enemies on the screen or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► come up with heuristics and things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► are not easy for you as the player to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► figure out what's going on but that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► the enemies appear to be like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► bit more intelligent and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► series got to end up doing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► that's the actual solution solving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► real problem like actually making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► something that understands what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► talking about is way way way harder than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► anything that's going to happen probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► in our lifetimes it's the problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► have been worked on academia for all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► our lives and will continue long after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► we're gone and it's really really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► but you can make something that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► you know cheats and hacks and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► things that are not that nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► with the way the human thinks or and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► really don't exhibit any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► understanding in our sense but they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► you the right answer Watson is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► example that Watson has no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► that it's doing doesn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► awareness of you know it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► really smart heuristics that happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► win the game of Jeopardy right but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► you pose just an arbitrary question to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► Watson or if you replace Siri with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► Watson it would probably do better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► because Watson has way more computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► resources but it would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► slower because Watson is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► slower than Syria I think but those type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► of hacks and cheats where we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► trying to make something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► intelligent we're not trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► something that's even as smart as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21 ◼   ► cockroach like we're not we're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24 ◼   ► that we're trying to make something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► performs the function that we want Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► to perform in a way that seems amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► but may have nothing to do with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► human would form the same task and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► that's how I think Siri will advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► it's not as if like well in a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► they'll figure it out in Siri will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► awesome and it'll be able to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► us no but in a few years they'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► their AI better in the same way the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► AI has gotten better in the same period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► of time because they have similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► resource constraints you don't have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► a giant supercomputer dedicated you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► need your answer right now and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► a similarly narrowly defined set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► things they need to do doesn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► be a general purpose thing it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► has to know about reminders and events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► and the few things that exist in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► world of the phone and the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► can do with phone just like Watson just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► doesn't know about Jeopardy questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► right now Watson doesn't need to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► calculus problems if you pose a calculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► problem - it will not give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► answer because that's not Jeopardy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11 ◼   ► questions never ask things like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► I think Siri will get better but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► was another link in the show notes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► think I put this one in here from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► formerly not lead iPhone developer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► the standalone Syria application back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► when and it was an app because I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► before Apple bought them and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► headings of his article is how Siri is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► not really it's called it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► AI as a heading of a section where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► backing up my point of view and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► particular definition of AI where when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► he says it's not really AI he means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► same things I do it's not AI the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► science fiction thinks of AI as and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► really intelligent it's artificial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► it's trying to be intelligent but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► not AI a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► so with all the people telling me oh of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► course it's artificial intelligence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► artificial and is trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► intelligent that's not the definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► that you're using it's also not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► definition that the person who created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► Siri is using or developed at any we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► talking very much about something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► is self-aware okay not didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► self-awareness just now something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► smart as a toddler where you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► converse with it like you converse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► the with a toddler with or with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► five-year-old right we're I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► speaking of cockroach or the last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► looked into the AI field that was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► the level of intelligence we felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► we were able to accurately simulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► cockroach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► yeah like very very simple stimulus very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► simple reactions and even that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► debatable it's like well that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► the cockroach exhibits much more much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► more sophisticated behavior than your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► program but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► so that's I think that's demand more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► links for Siri let me see you put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► one in with Andy Rubin yeah talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► your phone should not be an assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► and all I did when I saw that link was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► just added a link below it to a Gruber's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► take on that because bridge I grew with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► hundred percent he's like what what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► is he going to say that's what Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► said and during horrible you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► another product has a headline feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► and he he's not going to say yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► actually pretty good that's just not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► competition works yeah sort of like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► when the Android had all this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► voice support and the iPhone didn't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► you were if you could ever get a comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► from an Apple person you would say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► do you think all this voice stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26 ◼   ► Google's doing you know and in Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► anyplace in the UI you can just speak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► your dictation and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► they would have had if Apple was willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► to comment at all they would have had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► come up with some sort of answer and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► I'm sure they were tried to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► something bad like well we think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► technology is not quite ready and if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► were to do we would do it in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► better way or I don't know you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► say something that's not so nice to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► competition and a Gruber's example was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► how Jobs would always poopoo things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► before Apple did them like oh no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► don't want video on an iPod it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► small to watch and then when they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► no well actually what Apple would says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► nobody wants to watch a video on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► on a small screen yeah or nobody want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► the the e-book thing like all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► that read anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► it's BS pointless and then they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► with iBooks and they make no mention of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► that so that's just this is competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► I don't put anything into that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► you shouldn't be talking to your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► um eventually Android volt and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► Google is actually head-on a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► these things I'm surprised they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► phrase that differently because Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► has clearly been really into the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► support and all that stuff yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► been for a long time voice support in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► Android and in fact I remember when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► the first signs of Siri coming out were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► were there that you know it was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► people were immediately saying which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► better Siri or Android now I also want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► to make a distinction is that their Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► and then there's I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53 ◼   ► would call it dictation or speech yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► because you can go into any of Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► apps and any place where there is text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► entry where there little keyboard slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► up you now also have a little microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► so you can tap the microphone and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► dictate and it has a it has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► microphone so you tap you tap the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► microphone button and in place of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► keyboard there comes up a little just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► little a bigger button and you can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► which has a microphone on it you tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► that you start talking you tap it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► when you're done talking and it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► very very quickly very quickly now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► understand it's still using they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► still using the internet it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► sending that out for processing it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► happening locally on the phone or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► least most of its not but it sends that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► out to the internet and comes back very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► quickly with the this speech to text you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► know dictate dictation and then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► your text message or your email or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► whatever it was that you were composing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► I feel like there's a differentiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► like to me and maybe there isn't maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► there isn't a distinction but to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► would almost want to say that's not Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► because it's just doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► text-to-speech it's err speech-to-text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► rather it's not doing there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► figuring out what I mean there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:15 ◼   ► taking an action or trying to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► answer or looking anything up it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► saying I heard these sounds and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► making them into text for you well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► half of because that's an important part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► of Syria like I think nuance there using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► the nuance stuff and nuance is the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► that do Dragon Dictate and everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► that's their rest their speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► recognition engine and then they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► the language processing engine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► figures out what to do right so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► without that first half obviously Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► would not be useful so using the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► Siri described it as that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► analogous lazy branding is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► interesting way to say it but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► about the dictation that I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► is that so I have the dragon or I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► Mac speech dictator dragon dictator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► whatever whatever they renamed it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► when nuance bought the mac speech guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► and it uses the nuance speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58 ◼   ► recognition engine it even did before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► they bought them I think they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► licensed it and you have to train it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► when you buy it you have to read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► this 5-minute thing where you read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► it and it you know it highlights words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► as you read them and that eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► learns your voice and saves a voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► profile that's tied to both you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► microphone so this is you and the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► obviously doesn't have that training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► period you just take it out of the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► and you can go into a Notes app and hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► the little microphone things start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► talking and it'll make text and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:26 ◼   ► within Siri you can say well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► vocabulary is constrained is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► reminders and events and whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► you can do with Siri but within just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► generic dictation you could say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► you want I know there is a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► natural language processing component of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39 ◼   ► speech recognition it's not just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► what what sounds did you make and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► word corresponds them it knows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► context it knows well usually after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► word this word is more likely to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► that word you know they both sound the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► same now what's the Rex a nice Beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► every other one wrec is a nice beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► instead of recognized speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59 ◼   ► depending on how you slow they can sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► very similar but one sentence is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► more likely than the other and so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► is and that Siri does the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► like in this context following the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► things they've said previously what word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► is a small most likely and and it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► constrained vocabulary so even within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► the world of dictation there's some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► of Siri like intelligence where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► that's just how the nuance speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► dictation works it's not just convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► sound to word in isolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► it's consider everything that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► said before and after and what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► most likely sentence that comes out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► it's kind of fair to label all that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► Siri and yeah I can get back to Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► they've been gung ho for this for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► time on the Google homepage I think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► the web browser if you're using Chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► or whatever this little microphone icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► you can just dictate right into it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► they love this kind of they've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► self-driving cars too crying out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► obviously this is right up Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► alley else or it's not as if Google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► going is not interested in this field if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► anything they were ahead in this field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► and Apple in typical fashion simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► packaged it better and got out ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► with just the parts that are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► attractive to users not worrying so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► about self-driving cars for now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► the sponsors for sponsors right up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► alley John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► game minder do you game you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► app is for you this app game minder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► knows when apps are coming out games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► everything so you don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► about it you hear about a game even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► it's years away you search for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► game minder you use the reminder app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► a little let you know when it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► out so you can just keep playing xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► ps3 Wii PC Mac iOS even these new what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► does this one called PlayStation Vita [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► Vita and I don't know how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► it anyway they and they get the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► scoop on stuff so that's their first app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► game dot miner the second one is read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► dot minor so iOS gives you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► reminders app but if you want more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► features if you want them tied into game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► minder if you want a more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► schedule more customization reminder has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► that and even better is reminder Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► Plus which is the the Mac Daddy app well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► for all week long for just four 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► listeners they've dropped the price of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► reminder Pro Plus it's on sale 50% off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► so you can search for read minder in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► iTunes Store or you can just go to 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► dot TV slash hypercritical slash 39 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► this episode and the link will be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► that's our first sponsor thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► Hannah lumber you know that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► reminder app that's a very an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► application of its time because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► kind of so it's going to remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► about games like you hold this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► coming out I want to I want to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► forget when that comes out so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► enough of a gamer to know that a game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► coming out ahead of time and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► excited enough about it that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► be annoyed if you forgot about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► you're not hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► or enough of a gamer to be constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► playing games like well of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► would never forget about that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► basically people like us who were big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► gamers when we were younger but now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► have a family and responsibilities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► stuff like that it's it's the casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► hardcore gamer you would be a hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► gamer if you have the free time you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► when you were in your teens or 20s or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► whatever but now you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► responsibilities but you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► miss that great game so you you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► application that is going to remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► I think of things like that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► although in one particular case I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► been waiting for a game for like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► years now it's killing me and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► need a reminder for it but sometimes I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► lose track of when it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20 ◼   ► coming out that game is a Last Guardian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► from the team the made I go and shout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► out the closets coarsely possibly eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► depending on how you pronounce it people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► can read and tell me uh but yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► been waiting play game forever and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► just asked the people who are more up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► games I wanted when did they say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► coming out now I've got delay it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► or whatever so yeah the that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► for the casual hardcore gamer they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► use that line if they like although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► think it's probably insulting to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43 ◼   ► people but anyway I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► useful what do we have and one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► thing on Siri we're talking about using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► Siri with Apple TV and problems inherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► in that setup where the thing is far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► away from you but it has to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► your speech and it could be other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► talking in the room mostly I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► thinking of it is a way a way to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► the input problem because the input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► options for a television are not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► rich they just remote control with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► couple buttons or directional control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► and especially for things like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► want to turn it on and show some movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► for the kid people say well the room is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18 ◼   ► going to be too noisy and you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► to have an expensive thing like an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► to be used what can you do a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► suggestions were like well put a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► microphone in the remote my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► suggestion was just you know pair it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► down and go simple and say look it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► always listening to you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► press a button to make it listen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► have to talk right into a thing and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► would be done and you can't do it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► the television is on people like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► what if the television is playing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► show and it interprets the speech on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► show as commands and people say well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► could cancel the audio out because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► knows what it's emitting so I'm sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► like a carrier sense multiple access in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► Ethernet where it would say well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► emitting this and if you know I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► cancel out what I'm emitting and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► anything else was on the line it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► know in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► there are lots of technical solutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► but I would simplify it I would just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► if you can't do it when the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► is playing and you have to talk right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► into a thing you have to activate a mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► for it and even that alone which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► primitive it's just easier to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► pick up the thing and say play cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► have it play the cars movie instead we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► have to navigate through 50 menus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► launch some application and find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► cars movie for you or you know record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► the Cowboys game tonight or something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► use herbage favorite team it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► that's which we had some syrian telogen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► swear it can figure out the cow who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► cowboys are if there's any programs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► the upcoming schedule for the night that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► have anything to do with cowboys or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► know that you could add some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► intelligence to make that work it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► easier than flipping through the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► and trying to find the show you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► record so I still think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► potential for this I did like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► of putting a microphone in the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► and basically my my strategy would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► don't try to do something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► complicated make it very simple very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► constrained very limited and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► still be better than using a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► Direction pad to go see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► oh I've left up top down down right ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► Oh up up down down left left right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► that's annoying we hate that end and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► wouldn't suggest as the Google TV things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► we'll just give them a keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► we'll put the no I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► keyboard on my couch I don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► slider remote that opens up into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► keyboard it would be nice if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► just talk to it and it would work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► someone made a web page with a mock-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► of that by the way that's I haven't any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► show notes yeah I think that's it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► follow up be sure unless you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► anything else from now no I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► on to the new stuff the good the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► hi the next thing I have is that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► of follow up you so I want to talk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► little bit I clawed a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► about iCloud well you know I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► phones showed up last Friday week ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► and I've had a week to experiment with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► iCloud things I don't know if I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► able to answer all of your questions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► I imagine you've also been experimenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► with it there right yeah in a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► fashion mostly this is a reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► listening to back to work where Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► when off on iCloud a little bit.i and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► listening to his experiences because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► was brave enough to use the beta switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► I never was I was like I'm not putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► any of my data you know I did I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► either register for I club with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► Apple ID during the lion beta just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► see what it was like but that was such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► long time ago and I never put any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► real data into it it was just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► fiddling around with stuff but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► tried to put his real data into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► run into all sorts of weird issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:34 ◼   ► one of his big objections was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► seems to have no it's not trustworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► and it's not as trustworthy as Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► because he's not ever sure what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► on in that other place he can see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► on his devices and on his Mac but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► never sure if it wasn't there until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► looked as kind of a shorteners cat kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► of situation where I said well if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► didn't look at that Pages document I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► just boarded a plane when I was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► plane I tried to pull up the Pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► document would it not be there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► would try to fetch it at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► which point doesn't have it versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► Dropbox Regis looks a little icons he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► the checkbox and checkmark on the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► bar icon and knows it's got everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► it's all synced you know that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► great title bed episode it's never not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► everywhere whereas with iCloud he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► so sure and I got him to likely know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► you wanted to lead a photo from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► photo stream there's no way to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► you got to reset the whole stream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► that is not ideal and I think I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► about a little bit how it was more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► a conduit and they weren't they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► want you to have it's not a place you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► supposed to think of like it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► they just wanted to appear on all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► devices they want it to work the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► Dropbox works but when it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► don't have as much of an a mechanism to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► reach into that middle place and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► what's there I manipulate it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► what I want to say about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► something I was going to do an iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► section in my line review and I cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► but what I would have put in there is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► understanding of the iCloud philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► from talking to people WWC and going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► sessions and stuff like that and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► how it is different than the MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► philosophy you know I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► did use mommy syncing a lot not I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► early on I did a few years ago but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► stopped using mobile me when I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► certainly by the time Dropbox was out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► stopped using it because I wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► know I'm kind of weird I guess in that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► don't use a lot of bookmarks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► only a handful of them it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► and I have that many machines I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► sync them back and forth to and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► for me that was the big selling point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► mobile me I never used I disk I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► used the photo albums anyway so what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► left I mean the stinking stuff I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► was great thinking address book syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► it in doing those uh you know I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► a lot with keychain generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► because I use one password address books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► thinking you could do with Google uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► there really wasn't that much value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► it for for value there for me after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► while so I had stopped doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► but it sounds like Merlin was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► trying to use I disk which is braver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► than I was but I had such a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► experience with a disk yeah and I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► did keychain syncing I still do keychain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► syncing your Jimbo's thinking which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► Gruber mentioned that he uses as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► and that the thing about mobile me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► sinking is it was so is very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► experience work although I should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► know there's an API just like iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► where the applications can use this API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and you could choose on which machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► you might which things to be synced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► with a little compression Spain and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► little I kind of desktop the shows when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► it's syncing stuff but the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► difference is that the mobile me and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► Sync Services Inc infrastructure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► built on I think syncs the sync services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► predate mobile me maybe it was in a dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► Mac based to but I don't know it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► the same thing same thing the underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► architecture was that the sync stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► would run and so if you is pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► everything is in sync and then you go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► one machine that's disconnected from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► internet and you and you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► somebody's phone numbered end and a four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► and you want another machine and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► change that same guy's phone number ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► to the five right then when you sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► those two machines on one of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► possibly both of them you get dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► that says well one of these machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08 ◼   ► thinks this number should be a four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► the other one thinks it should be a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► which one is right you'd be presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► with the conflict resolution dialog you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► remember that thing yes we would show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► would basically show your computer as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► five but dot Mac has a four choose one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► right and then it was a checkbox at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► bottom that says make the same decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► for all them so if you decided Mac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► canonical like oh I'm sure what's on dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► Mac is what I really want so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► just say don't don't ask me about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► during the sync process just go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► the rest of them and just take what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34 ◼   ► Mac has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:34 ◼   ► but if you're paranoid you go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► each one automatic has this and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► that it would also prompt you who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► going to change a certain percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► the things like I'm about to change more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► than 20% of your contacts let me bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► up this dialog it says are you sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► want to do this here's what it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► like though Mac has these contacts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► you have these right Yojimbo was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► torture test for sync services I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► know if you call it great Apple to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► it great but your Jimbo is this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► I know you'd call it like a shoebox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► application where you can just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► anything in there you can put captures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► of webpages bookmarks rich text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► documents I think this PDF so all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► of stuff you can throw in your Jimbo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► some of these can be very large even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► just a big capture of a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► webpage but it will save all the images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► associated with a webpage and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► thing it would like you know get like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► web archive of it right and when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► Jimbo came out what you'd get was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► dialog would come up and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► dot Mac has this and your Mac has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► and what it would show is a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► hexadecimal dump of binary data of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► three megabytes of binary did and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► was over a certain size you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► spinning beach ball right in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► that review and dialogue and you'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► be able to do anything so now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► stuck you can't sink your Mac because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► the sink services can't handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► volume of data it's being asked to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► review the changes too and it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► matter anyway because you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► heads or tails of this hex dump all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► can really look at is the dates and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► oh yeah I remember I changed that over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► there and I should replace it on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► Mac you know that experience all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► part of that is bugs right same services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► not being good part of that is design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► where they didn't have an interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► where the applications could provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► piece of code that would say I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► to display Yojimbo documents so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► someone asks for diff on your jimbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► document use my code and splice diff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► know the same services would just fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► back to oh here's a binary dump make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► sense of that good luck so that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► feature missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► missing features there and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► sorted out the performance eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► much thanks I'm sure to Yojimbo and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► of its users torture testing it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► know back and forth between Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► bare-bones to get that working and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► does work really well and I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► those dialogues anymore and it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► doesn't beachball and freeze anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► that took many years to get to though in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38 ◼   ► many years involving all sorts of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► Merlin pointed strange incantations to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► reset things in the MobileMe side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► including the super secret apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► internal applications that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► a hard hard reset of your MobileMe state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► to just wipe everything clean not a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► experience right now but but the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► design change that the Apple decided was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► a mistake with MobileMe with ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► presenting the user with a dialogue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► to resolve a conflict because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► you're making them make a choice and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► matter how good you make that decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► and how much information you provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► you've got a custom UI they could show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► you exactly the differences or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13 ◼   ► regular users are not like programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► they don't want to see a side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► diff and make a decision and so how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► you get how do you get rid of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► still deal with the situation when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► have one computer that changed the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► number ten with the for one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► changed em with the five what's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27 ◼   ► the answer obviously there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► some winner there because they the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► phone number can't be you know to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► two different endings right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► iCloud philosophy is don't ever show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► anyone a dialog box to ask them to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► a decision and that's in keeping with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42 ◼   ► Apple's philosophy of just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44 ◼   ► presenting options and just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► annoying like don't don't bother me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► this I don't want to hear about it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► but to make sure you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► iCloud basically has to pick a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► but to make sure you don't screw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► user over like say you pick the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► thing icon philosophy seems to be if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► have two things that conflict in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► way they're big hammer to solve this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► versioning so pick a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► push loser onto the stack of versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► and then push the winner on to the stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► of versions so no prompts no information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► no decisions you're being asked to mate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► that's why this can happen when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► not in front of the thing like it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► sync to your phones by push to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► you know the device could have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► screen turned off is laying on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► right you don't want to pick up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► phone and turn on have 50 dialog saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► for you to resolve conflicts right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► says I'm just going to pick a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► based on some simple heuristic like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► know the least most recently updated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► whatever it rules they decide but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► doesn't really matter because I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► loser I pushed on to the stack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► different versions and your application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► and the api's you're supposed to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► you with a way to get back that old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44 ◼   ► version if you decide wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► what's going on here right ah and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► WEC keynote they didn't emphasize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► as much as they emphasized the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► thing which was there's no place you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► or app you run or thing you do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► iCloud it's built into your applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► so their ideal scenario is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► applications them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► elves do the hard work to implement all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► this functionality to like oh how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► get back my previous version you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► pull the sync versions when I make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11 ◼   ► change I push it down to the cloud when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► they launch the application pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► changes from the cloud all this business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► make it in the application so there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► other place to go and it just seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► magically work that's the ideal scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► but as marilyn is finding that relies on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► all the applications doing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► fancy stuff and even Apple zones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► applications maybe making decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► about how to implement this stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:32 ◼   ► are different so if pages for example if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► if you can only get your pages documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► by launching pages and if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► launch pages it hasn't synced with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► cloud that's bad because that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► that's not what Merlin expects it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► not how Dropbox would work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► Dropbox is always running all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► they're trying to balance the need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52 ◼   ► have some always running third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► applications syncing all your files with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► the idea that they don't want it to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► thing that you deal with they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► any decisions they don't want a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:01 ◼   ► thing that you deal with our place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► you go they don't want an eye sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► application that you launch and hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► sync button they don't even want like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► little sync process that appears they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► just want it to all be transparent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► when you violate some assumption like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13 ◼   ► the network is always available and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► board a plane and you try to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► pages documented it's not there that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► an upsetting experience of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► Marilyn and me and you I'm sure would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► like to have enough control to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► alright I know enough about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► internals to know that before I board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► this plane make sure my Dropbox is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► synced and then I'll know I'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► everything you know I see the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► checkmark I'm good to go on the plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► because I've got all the stuff locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► it's an implementation detail that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► understand right versus hiding this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► and having nothing visible to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► and not being sure well is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► background process in iOS 5 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► pulling these things I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► for photostream but is it does it pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► pages documents or do I have to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► pages and maybe I should just launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► pages to be safe and even when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► launch pages if you saw your document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54 ◼   ► listed another implementation detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► could be oh well pages just pulled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► metadata from iCloud it didn't pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► documents this is something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► thought does by the way because it wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► to be parsimonious with its usage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► the network and everything and so it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► only pull the metadata oh yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► document this is how big it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► here's like a preview image but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► until you open the documents oh yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► get into this paranoia mode very like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► let me just make sure I have everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► okay load it or did it load everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► or maybe the only loaded the first page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► I mean maybe I should scroll through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► it obviously it's us overthinking it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► we're overthinking it because we run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► into situations where stuff is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► always everywhere as Merlin put it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► so we get paranoid about it as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► about the implementation but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► implementation this whole thing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► grab bean or ribbon fingerprinting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► I talked about in the lion review is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► efficient way to to send and receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► just the changes to files and to chunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► them up into pieces so you you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► pieces don't all change when a one-bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► at the end of the file changes it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► shift all the bytes over in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► pieces like they're trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► efficient about network access and data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► storage and not constantly running stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► but they're also trying to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► appear like everything is everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► there's a conflict between those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► and on top of that the never prompting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► for what you should do so there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► even any place you'd go reset just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► pull everything I'm gonna board a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► just anything that's in the cloud I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► got an hour before my flight leaves just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► just pull it all now because I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► Wi-Fi there's no button for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► there's no place to go for that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► at as designed I think these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► solvable problems and I think Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► choose the right thing of not prompting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27 ◼   ► people those conflicts and having it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► trying to be automated but it's obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► that sometimes the assumptions built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► into Apple system are being violated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► like when the network isn't accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► and that sort of breaks the illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► there and I think applications need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► be updated to I don't know that needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► be like would you want pages to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► every single when your documents all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► time some people would say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► maybe that maybe you have to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► sort of preference at that level or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► way for it to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53 ◼   ► earthy I'm going to board a plane button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► or something like that but Apple might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► say well that's that's an edge case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► we don't want that at all and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► people are always near a network you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► know this how many times I offer you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► so we'll just pull it on demand because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► that's the most efficient way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► things it's upsetting to Merlin and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► may be upsetting the tech heads I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► how regular people will feel about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► transparency of iCloud I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► we have any and maybe guess they if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► had it off she's making documents that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► are being sync to iCloud or how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► experienced this well she's editing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► the other show but I'll ask her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► and it'll be interesting it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► be a while before anyone in my extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► family gets any iOS 5 devices because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► we're all using older iPods many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► which can't be upgraded to that but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► they don't have iPhones they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► using mobile me eventually they'll be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► iCloud and everything that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► interesting to see it what they think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► the syncing experience as I said last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► week the fact that you can do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► on one device like take a picture with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► your phone and it automatically shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► at your other devices and that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► actually works that is like 90% of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► battle for regular people I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► didn't have to do anything they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► signed and it just magically work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► the details about well what if I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► delete it or what if I got on a plane or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► are my pages documents really there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► much as that annoys people like us I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► think that's probably the 8090 percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► solution and those details are not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► to be that big of a deal source bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► writing software design and development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► services for iOS Android Mac and the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► source bits is at the bleeding edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► emerging technologies their deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► experience and successful track record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► makes it so that you have an idea you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► and get it done you just go to search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► pits calm you tell them about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► they make it happen you have a webapp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► piece you have an Android version iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► doesn't matter they just do it they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► it all they do it right the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► and they save you money because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► don't have to do it twice source bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► calm cutting-edge app development I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► him that that's logo slogan not logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► slow go I gave them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► so generous it's their slow go they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► do whatever they want it's theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► they're gonna have to run with this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► mean I'm just the idea guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► sore spits calm so our remaining time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► I guess I'll circle I still don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► time I thought maybe I'd get to the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► ails Microsoft probably can't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► give some hints drop some hints oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► gonna do a Microsoft topic and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► creep up on I'll I still have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► tiny bit of Windows eight stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► straggling from way way back four shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► ago or something this is a long circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► back but events transpired that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► prevented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► from coming so I'll try to finish up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► thoughts on this Windows 8 video which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► ought to put in the show notes this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► a demonstration of Windows 8 from was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► a month ago it's a long time ago talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► about the UI the philosophy behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► UI and some of the things behind it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► have at the tail end of those to make I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► can fit those in here so I think where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► left off last time was on contracts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► didn't talk about them at all so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► contracts is a concept in Windows 8 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► it allows applications to work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► without knowing anything about each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► other there are lots of technologies on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► all platforms that fits this description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► for example the clipboard on the Mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► a mechanism like that you can copy text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► one application to paste than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► and those two applications those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► developers need never have known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► anything about each other never met like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► this an intermediary they both work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► the intermediary in the intermediary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► does the job of translating between and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► then mat clipboard does all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► stuff with storing different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► representations like the the sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► application will send one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► representations then the receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► application will say which ones that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► receive but that's that's a very basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► form of having applications work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► together without knowing anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► each other and that was fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► revolutionary when the Mac came out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► idea that you can copy for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► application and paste into any other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► for some platforms like Linux say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► or it's still revolutionary but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► due to accidents of history maybe those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► a cheap shot that so contracts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► Windows 8 are a richer version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► actually before I get the contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10 ◼   ► let's think about how that works in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► there is a there's the clipboard in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► right finally where you can copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► paste stuff from one place the other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► there's also this weird thing with URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► schemes where you can register a URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► scheme you just make up one instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► HTTP colon slash slash it's like my cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► app name colon slash slash and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► register that with the system then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► the regular URL opening API is find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► API that begins with that double sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► when I see this URL I launch this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► app and provide it with this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► that's a really rudimentary way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► can from one application like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:43 ◼   ► open a PDF and find any applet well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► that's slightly different than the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► where they figure out what Apps can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► understand PDFs but they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► primitive ways by registering URL scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► handlers or by registering with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► kinds of documents that you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► that applications can provide content to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► each other through this intermediary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► the system which knows which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► applications can handle which pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► protocols and which file right next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► engine so contracts is a severely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► cranked up version of that where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► middleman isn't just a clipboard and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► isn't just a registry of file types and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► URL schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► it's the middleman with some rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► understanding of a few particular things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► and so you can I think what's one of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:25 ◼   ► what's one of the the contracts here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► may find a solid example so this there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► a search system service to search things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33 ◼   ► and if an application it is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► searchable inside an application an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► application will write support for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► search contract and it will become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► available as a thing that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► searched and even go so far as to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► it brings up the UI for searching stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► if you're searching within your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► application your application gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► chance to present its content the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► wants to present it or present a UI that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► makes sense within that application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► you know so this is actual UI component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► actual segments of your own code running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► to provide this interface I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► do it for settings too I could do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► settings as well like so in an iOS where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► you've got the settings application do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► you remember when iOS first came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► said oh don't put your preferences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► your application right put them all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► settings and Mac users were like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► got to leave the application to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► whether I want the background and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► thing to be light or dark well I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► just do it within here so now go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► Settings app setting app is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► kind of similar where you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► something that defines data structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► that the settings application reads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► says I'll here's how I can provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► settings this other application oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► settings in Windows 8 use the contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► thing to provide its their charms on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► side or error to provide a centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► UI for all settings and applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► right to this the settings contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► thing to be able to present their UI in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► that context instead of just providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► data structure that I would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► have a chance to draw things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► screens though now the thing that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► contracts I'm probably doing a bad job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► of describing all the richness available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► in contracts because it's been a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► since I've seen this video my notes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► all the bells back but the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► the contracts made me think of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► I saw it is like so obviously this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► like clipboard on steroids or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► better than registering profile types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► and protocol handles like an iOS so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► clearly a step up in cooperation between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► applications providing more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► cooperation and a richer set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► behaviors for cooperation and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► may be think of because I'm an old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► and an old Mac user was published and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► subscribe do you remember that hmm no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► this is maybe in the 90s I should find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42 ◼   ► Wikipedia link for this so sometime when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► Apple was busy making strange new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► technologies but they weren't all really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► sticking like it was early enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► Apple was still doing really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► things but late enough that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54 ◼   ► starting to do interesting things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► people would look at and go yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► know kind of like I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► before open doc before power talk if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► anyone remembers that probably not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► publish and subscribe was similar type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► of thing where there was a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► API defined in the system where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► applications could say would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► publish something we'll use this publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► API and say I am publishing this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► graph from my spreadsheet application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► and then in your word processor the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► processor would say oh I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► subscribe to that graph from this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► application and then there would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► a little square inside your word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► processing application that showed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► spread the graph from your spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► application even though you know the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► applications might not not know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► about each other they just happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► both support publish and subscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► some of the chamfers point out this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► very similar to o le object linking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► embedding Microsoft had a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► alphabet soup technologies which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► similar things and this is kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► believe publishing to describe it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► reaction to what Microsoft was doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► it never caught on very few applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54 ◼   ► ever had publish and subscribe items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► that metaphor didn't fit the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► thought of it was because I just thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► it was funny that so the intent is to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► similar things have applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► cooperated in a very rich way right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► know by the way the embedding thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► the poet is described is like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► updated that chart in your spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► it would also update in your word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► processor and again those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► applications need not know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► about each other they just went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► this API but so what Apple chose as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► branding and the metaphor for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► action was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► something from the world of literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► or print you published something and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► other thing subscribes to it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► magazine or you or it you know it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► of kind of arty whereas Microsoft shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► contracts which has like a legal legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► connotation where well you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► we're not publishing artwork and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► subscribing to it we're making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► contract because that's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► understand here at Microsoft is legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► binding agreements between parties I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► wonder about stuff like that word does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► anyone think about the work did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► just have to pick a different name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► because publishing the scribe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► already used and and that thing didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► work is it I want to use that or and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► that's why we had to pick contracts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► is that the first thing that comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► mind and do they think about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► psychology behind their choice of names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► it just struck me as odd but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► contracts technology itself I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► great thing for Apple to look at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► steel because one of the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► standing complaints from iOS developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► is they want more richer better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► cooperation between applications they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► all you know they're all sandbox that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► can't touch each other stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► sometimes it makes so much sense to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► them talk to each other and in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► that doesn't require you do it even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► you wrote both the applications in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► is hard it's hard to make them cooperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► but we the ecosystem will be better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► there was a standardized supported way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► for any application to do interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► things with each other and this this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► goes back to the sandbagging sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46 ◼   ► argument on the Mac and the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► Store where people are cranky that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► new rules for sandboxing in the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► Store are preventing things that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► work in inter application communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► on the Mac using Apple events and script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► ability and stuff like that those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► going away I mean while on iOS people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► want more of that they would love to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► able to you know send Apple events but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► some equivalent of talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► sophisticated way between applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► within the rules with it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► let me speak out of my sandbox let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► say hey I have something cool to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► you or if you're a photo editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► application I would like to pop up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► menu that says would you like to edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► this picture in and then list all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► interesting photo editing applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► you can do that now with file types but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► they want more complicated types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► arrangements and contracts provides that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► so if and when Windows 8 actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► ship I think this contract API will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► API itself lease will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► the envy of most iOS developers of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► hasn't caught up by then that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► thing about the windows a stop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► they're showing a product that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► going to ship until like I think 2012 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► something I don't know how it made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► end of 2012 it's going to be a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► like they showed it long before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► ready to come out so by that point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► know is iOS 6 out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► it's 5.5 or whatever out you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► hard to compared so Microsoft is ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► well my goal is not ahead until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► ship on an apple of shipping iOS 5 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► it's fair to compare iOS 5 with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► you don't compare with Microsoft has now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► so anyway I'll be interested to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► how things are when this stuff actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► ships but I think right now Apple should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► be that rabble should have been working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► on this for a long time because like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► said it's a long-standing iOS developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► complaint and I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► important because all these sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► and security stuff that Apple is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► is great but it's getting to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► now where I OS developers are feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► limited by by Apple's rules and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► need to figure out a way to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► a mediated system a mediated defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► system likes contracts where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► defined by the vendor and you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► do a certain amount of things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► have you know it's a limited API it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► not just like arbitrary Apple scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:44 ◼   ► you know where you could your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► application can just send an Apple event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► to the address book and say give me all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► your contacts lo I think you might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► better ready anyway o use it three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► different means but you can't just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► a wide open field like you code in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56 ◼   ► Mac where any application can control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► any other using arbitrary code but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► don't want everyone to be so isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► well they are now more Windows 8 stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► notifications was another interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09 ◼   ► yeah a place that was different they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► made they were had a big emphasis in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► Windows 8 to saying we don't want a junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► drawer of notifications and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► dig at what Apple's doing an iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► when android is always done where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► is thing this piece of UI you can pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► out the lists all your notifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► iOS users who've been begging for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► because they hated the stupid modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► dialogues and if you dismiss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► notification it was gone forever and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► know oh wait what was that text I missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33 ◼   ► it let me see my past six texts no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► so not having that it was a big deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► then Microsoft comes out and says well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► you know Apple just spent all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42 ◼   ► adding this thing we're saying that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► a bad idea to add that we don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► junk drawer of notifications we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► don't want this place now by using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► junk drawer it's like it's language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► that's setting it up to be a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► without explaining really why it's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► thing other than saying oh it's messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► Steve Jobs did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► Steve Jobs did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► the Malheur thing when he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► about the finder where there was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► many windows in the finder I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03 ◼   ► to be the janitor to clean this up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► right so just the way of talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► something there's an implied sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► it's bad without a real explanation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► why is why is it bad to have lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► windows Steve because there it's visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► clutter that bothers you or what if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► looking at the contents of both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► windows maybe two windows isn't so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► if I really need to see what's in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► of those windows you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► calling clutter to dismiss it over of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► course I wouldn't want that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► don't want to be the janitor I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► to have one window right but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► rephrasing in particular ways am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► calling this thing a junk drawer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:31 ◼   ► implying that oh it's a mess and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► just got a bunch of stuff jumbled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► there but it's you know it's really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► of a time order list of things in an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► five you can pick exactly what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► to appear there and how you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► notification to appear it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43 ◼   ► very flexible and powerful and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► that notification your face is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► interesting but Microsoft's philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► as in many things Windows 8 runs counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► to what both Android and Apple are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► and saying we want our notifications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► be on the tiles because they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► whole tile interface if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► remember what that is go back four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00 ◼   ► episodes listening little business on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► tiles they say if it's important update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► your app tile you've got this big canvas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► on which to write stuff and you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► a small thing there when they zoom in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► the tile you can get more information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► and when you launch the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► application you'll see the full thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► like the fact that it's different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► I'm interested to see how that works but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► I don't like the idea of flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► through four or five screens worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► tiles to check everything for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► notification so just now what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► happened in the two hours since I picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► up my phone or my tablet having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► quote-unquote junk drawer full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► notifications is nice you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35 ◼   ► say all here's everything that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► if I have to flip through and scan every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► tile is there a new notification there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► no is there new notification there no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► would be kind of like scanning through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► all your icons on the home screens on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► iOS device looking for badges and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► like tapping on those badges to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:50 ◼   ► information that's that's an interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► that Apple could have gone with they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► didn't they did they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► quote-unquote junk drawer thing so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► very interesting to see how their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00 ◼   ► philosophy turns out in real life when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► someone gets a Windows 8 tablet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► Windows 8 Phone do they find it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► that notifications appear as tiles or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► it what are they're going to be begging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► for a junk drawer and again just a zap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14 ◼   ► is adding something Microsoft is not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:15 ◼   ► much taking it out but saying we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► never going to do that background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► processing this is something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23 ◼   ► tiptoed around in the windows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► presentation they didn't want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► about like what's running or what's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► that's why we were having all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► discussions and past shows about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► well is the desktop environment running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► until you launch it our different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► support real multitasking is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► kill your battery you know and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► talk about in when you're in the Metro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► land on Windows 8 with all these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► style applications my impression is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► applications are only running when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► they're on the screen and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► there's any guarantees that they're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► in RAM when they're not on the screen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► certainly it seems like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3778">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► suspending everything except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00 ◼   ► frontmost application I mean they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► to be because you can't you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► do everything can multitask everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► it will destroy your battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► especially when you have when one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► those things and the everything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► full-fledged desktop environment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► will just it would just kill a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► battery or even a tablet battery so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► are doing although I'm not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► as much it seems like they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► something very dissimilar to what iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► does which is the front most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► applications the only thing guaranteed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► to be running and in memory and will try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► to manage stuff for you behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► scenes they didn't talk so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► user the application developers writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► their applications to know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► restore their state exactly to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► it was which is a very important part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:38 ◼   ► iOS development and it's a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► part like it's a significant effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► make sure that if I hit the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► anywhere in your application when I real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► aunch that application I want to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► you back to right where I was before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► hit the home button and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► work involved in that apple provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► some help for you to do that but it's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► to the developer to do a good job on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► that wasn't emphasized as much in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► Windows 8 stuff maybe they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00 ◼   ► consider it as important but it did seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► to me that they were saying you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► running if you're on the screen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► you're not on the screen and you may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► be in memory if you're not on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► cloud roaming before you do cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► roaming let's do our third sponsor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18 ◼   ► final sponsor all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► Shopify calm the Internet's most elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► customizable an affordable hosted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► e-commerce platform this is what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► always used to sell the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► merchandise the t-shirts and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► things use it for high-velocity ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► before that I know a lot of other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► have used it too and because it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► to do you just want to sell stuff online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► don't screw around just go to Shopify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► calm you can sell anything it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:46 ◼   ► matter what it is anything at all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► handle everything they make sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► secure they've really awesome templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► that are free if you want to spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► little money and get a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► high-end template they have a gallery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► them there if your designer you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00 ◼   ► design your own just use your own HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► and CSS it's a piece of cake to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► normally they give you a month free for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► 5x5 listeners they're giving you three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► months free use coupon code 5x5 go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► Shopify com sign up three months free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► and you can sell stuff during the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► months it's not like you can just set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► something up and total your thumbs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► shop in minutes of business for life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► Shopify dot-com it's easy did you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► him that Louis that slow go slow go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► gave they came up with the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► administer life slow go my slow go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► them is uh it's easy I think uh staple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► to somebody already how's that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► that's that was easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► Oh totally this is just it's easy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► plus when I say it I do a little karate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► chop gesture it's easy that works really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► well on a podcast yeah but it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► this logo alright it's tempting to makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59 ◼   ► logo the title this episode but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01 ◼   ► save that for later all right cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► roaming so when Microsoft talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► roaming the silliest the silliest term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► I've ever heard did you come over then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► it's in my notes I'm assuming I copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► it from something somebody said it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► underling so when they talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► base people like it I think I liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► and see what the audience liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► because they say things that make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► happy just like we all liked it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► Apple introduced iCloud and they and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► things they said during the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► presentation where the things we wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► to hear that you know that they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► rearranged that diagram instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► Mac being the digital hub now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► was the center the devices are around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► and this is an arrangement a mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► model that people who use Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► services like Dropbox have long come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► appreciate and say yeah that's the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► wanted to work that's the arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► that we like so when Apple said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► going to do that it made us happy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► similarly when Microsoft talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:58 ◼   ► this in the Windows 8 them well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00 ◼   ► they said they gave some examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► saying like when you finish a game level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► on a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► you shouldn't have to play that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► level again in another device right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08 ◼   ► when you change a setting on a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► you shouldn't have to change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12 ◼   ► setting again like we do you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► remind me of this or don't show this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► dialogue like that I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► change that everywhere and that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18 ◼   ► was them trying to say that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► everything you do should be recorded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► some central place and that all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27 ◼   ► other devices should pull from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► that's the arrangement that we all think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► is a good idea the cloud centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► everything everywhere don't make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► repeat myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► don't make every single device be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► island and when they talk in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► generalities like that most people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:39 ◼   ► thumbs up yep that's the way I want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► to work I love that cloud syncing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► just everything is everywhere steam does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44 ◼   ► that for example with the newer Steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46 ◼   ► games I figure what they call they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:47 ◼   ► some name for it but if you set up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► key configuration that you like for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51 ◼   ► know playing portal and you bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53 ◼   ► another machine and you install steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► and download portal onto it you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► have to reset your key config it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► already there because it pulled it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:59 ◼   ► the cloud and we're like yes that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01 ◼   ► because we all remember the old days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► having to set up the key configs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04 ◼   ► every time you install it or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► got a new computer replace the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:07 ◼   ► it's a hassle to do that stuff you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► want it to work and be automatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:12 ◼   ► they do something similar to iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► where they say I'm assuming this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► free that every single application every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18 ◼   ► single Windows 8 application gets some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► small amount of per user cloud storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► first for the state of the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25 ◼   ► for settings and a small amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► content like it's not giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► gigabytes where you can store like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:29 ◼   ► photos and everything but it's giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► you stuff for all the settings and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► small amount of content and enough state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34 ◼   ► to provide that nice syncing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:38 ◼   ► yeah the Microsoft was saying all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► right things there and saying all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42 ◼   ► right things even like we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43 ◼   ► give you that that seems to be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44 ◼   ► the price of entry now this gets back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47 ◼   ► my point for many shows ago about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49 ◼   ► how data centers and server operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► are now just an essential part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► thing you do with technology like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58 ◼   ► very very hard to be it to field any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► interesting product that does not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► significant very important essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► server side component it's why I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09 ◼   ► saying that every company in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► technology space needs to either have or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► be developing good expertise in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16 ◼   ► areas of service eyebrows even something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► like I said well if you're an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► app developer and you make a to-do list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► application well the better to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► application that have server components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25 ◼   ► you know they could just use iCloud even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► even they just use iCloud there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28 ◼   ► server component maybe the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► doesn't have to make the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30 ◼   ► component but that's that adds value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► an application like about something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36 ◼   ► Instapaper where yeah there's a client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► application but the client application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► is nothing without the web service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42 ◼   ► that's behind it and Marco had to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► that web service and he enhances the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► application by enhancing the client too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48 ◼   ► but also by answering the web service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► they go hand in hand you can't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52 ◼   ► you can't take away the web service so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► just want to write Objective C I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► want to do any of that server-side stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► because it's annoying and you get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► big traffic spikes and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► provision hardware and yeah that is hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► but having that expertise doing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► what makes your product valuable so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06 ◼   ► cloud roaming thing is yet another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► instance apples Apple Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► releasing Windows 8 it's a great new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► operating system that's got this cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12 ◼   ► new UI it's got all these gestures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► look at all these cool devices and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► got this contracts thing but oh yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► of course we have to have a server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:20 ◼   ► component and increasingly of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► there has to be a free version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► like maybe we'll charge you for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► content but it's just such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27 ◼   ► entry-level feature that just every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29 ◼   ► application every Windows 8 application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► gets to store their settings in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32 ◼   ► cloud no no no argument no any visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► anyone can have it's free whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► Windows Live ID whatever they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37 ◼   ► name to you know that's just that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39 ◼   ► the price of entry and doesn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► a such a big deal unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► Microsoft or Apple and you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:44 ◼   ► providing every application with a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► little bit of storage or every iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► user with free you know syncing of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► contacts and stuff like that well when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:54 ◼   ► you have millions of users that becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56 ◼   ► a big deal and suddenly you're now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58 ◼   ► the situation of figuring out how to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00 ◼   ► giant data centers and scale them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► handle large traffic spikes from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► know Christmas morning when people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► stuff and that's just that's just part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► of the industry now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► I think Microsoft is probably well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► equipped to do this I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► going to run into the same problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► we just talked about with iCloud we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► all right so this sounds great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► everything but like to give the example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► like when I change a setting in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► application I don't want to have to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► change it again well what if on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23 ◼   ► Windows 8 tablet you say the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:26 ◼   ► and want the tiles to be this size like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:27 ◼   ► zoomed in because I can read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► notification sent or whatever but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► your phone you want that setting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► the opposite I'm making up a setting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34 ◼   ► off this is a real setting you want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► setting to be the opposite because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► screen is smaller do you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► ability to say actually I would like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► to use a different setting based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43 ◼   ► device now normally I want you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45 ◼   ► key commands to be the same in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► places where I run this game in steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47 ◼   ► but for some settings it's device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► specific on my PC my Windows 8 PC I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► this but when is a tablet I want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55 ◼   ► you know now they have a conflict like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:58 ◼   ► what we wanted to hide all these details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► from you it's all built into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:01 ◼   ► application it's up to the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► developers to use our API stew right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► the cloud but does not the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► developer have to provide some setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08 ◼   ► that says are when you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10 ◼   ► settings application all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:11 ◼   ► change is setting on and then a sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► setting that says but only on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► computer right like you're you're opting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:19 ◼   ► out of the cloud syncing for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:20 ◼   ► particular setting or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:21 ◼   ► that it becomes very complicated where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► you're merging settings together where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► these settings are you know what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27 ◼   ► my default to be this but if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:28 ◼   ► override in this particular device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30 ◼   ► want it to be that that that gets into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► stuff that only programmers want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35 ◼   ► think about but it's a complication of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36 ◼   ► cloud syncing I just don't think every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38 ◼   ► one people have got it figured out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40 ◼   ► Dropbox like well grandpa's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► figured out they do have a simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:43 ◼   ► scenario they just deal with files last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45 ◼   ► updater wins they don't prompt you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47 ◼   ► conflicts though but they do create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:48 ◼   ► those little I don't know Maura Marco I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50 ◼   ► don't know if Merlin's ever seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:51 ◼   ► but I see it a lot because I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53 ◼   ► careful with how I use Dropbox where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55 ◼   ► get the it'll be the filename of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► document and then it will add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:58 ◼   ► parenthesis deleted in some big hex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01 ◼   ► number have you ever seen that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:02 ◼   ► Dropbox well to pee I mean at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:06 ◼   ► point you'll be editing a document like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:08 ◼   ► oh and then you'll see it usually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10 ◼   ► seems to happen after you save it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:13 ◼   ► what I'll get is I'll be editing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15 ◼   ► document on my Mac at home and grok will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17 ◼   ► be synced and everything and then I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► go to work and edit that same document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:20 ◼   ► but I'll happen to catch it before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► like fully synced or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23 ◼   ► and when I come back home Oh wake my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25 ◼   ► up from sleep the document has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:26 ◼   ► renamed in Dropbox to have parentheses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28 ◼   ► deleted some hexadecimal no you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:31 ◼   ► have seen that but it's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► since I've seen that I have seen it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:34 ◼   ► the past and that's its that's dropboxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:37 ◼   ► way only it's really really big father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40 ◼   ► no no small file like this like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42 ◼   ► just my show notes because I update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43 ◼   ► shows and you know the other thing I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45 ◼   ► the same thing and to happen a lot yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47 ◼   ► because I'm constantly doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49 ◼   ► simultaneous updating when one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:50 ◼   ► is asleep and so you end up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53 ◼   ► situation where there's a conflict and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54 ◼   ► Dropbox says well I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55 ◼   ► overwrite your changes like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:56 ◼   ► going to make the document that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58 ◼   ► open suddenly disappear and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► because it's different but I've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01 ◼   ► sync the newer one from Dropbox so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► just rename yours go off to the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05 ◼   ► then I have to kind of do my manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07 ◼   ► merge of the two things if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09 ◼   ► interested in that data or just say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:10 ◼   ► yeah oh that's old I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:11 ◼   ► that I duplicated that work elsewhere if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► that problem still exists and you do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:17 ◼   ► it if you push it too hard and get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19 ◼   ► situations where again where Dropbox is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21 ◼   ► assumptions like you know that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:22 ◼   ► computers are always online and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24 ◼   ► resolve these conflicts sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:25 ◼   ► do just get things out of sync and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► just does that for you and that regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29 ◼   ► user store they have no idea why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30 ◼   ► said parentheses deleted or maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32 ◼   ► continue editing that because it'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:33 ◼   ► that parenthesis deleted one in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35 ◼   ► Dropbox and sync it like any other file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:36 ◼   ► but then when you having a looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37 ◼   ► Dropbox fold you're like why are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39 ◼   ► three of these files and two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:40 ◼   ► have this weird thing in parentheses at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42 ◼   ► the end you know it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45 ◼   ► people may not be prepared to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47 ◼   ► but but it exists but Dropbox I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:48 ◼   ► has the simplest problem where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:49 ◼   ► like we just deal with files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51 ◼   ► contents those files we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:52 ◼   ► awareness of them it's much much harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54 ◼   ► when you're an application developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► you have things mean stuff like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:57 ◼   ► settings that mean things and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59 ◼   ► settings make sense to be global don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01 ◼   ► make sense to be goal but you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:02 ◼   ► to burden the user with dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► that and you want to do what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04 ◼   ► platform vendor says to make everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06 ◼   ► sink but then your users complain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08 ◼   ► it's weird yeah so this is a a frontier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:13 ◼   ► of UI development of figuring out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15 ◼   ► best balance between not troubling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17 ◼   ► people with things we're not supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18 ◼   ► worry about and making them feel safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20 ◼   ► for their data is safe but also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22 ◼   ► annoying people with a pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24 ◼   ► sameness across all devices for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:27 ◼   ► that you know might want to be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:28 ◼   ► in different contexts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:33 ◼   ► I still skip to the end of this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35 ◼   ► was good they talked about Auto save and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36 ◼   ► save stadia they're similar in Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38 ◼   ► MetroCard they want you to alter save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40 ◼   ► and they want you to save state and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:41 ◼   ► resume we talked about that it's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:47 ◼   ► larger points that I want to make about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49 ◼   ► the Metro stuff okay one is I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:54 ◼   ► thinking about and a lot of people talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:56 ◼   ► about this but Android and Metro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58 ◼   ► Windows 8 and stuff like that where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00 ◼   ► say well what Apple is doing where for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:04 ◼   ► long time that wasn't even any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:05 ◼   ► multitasking and now it's really limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07 ◼   ► to multitasking and all these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09 ◼   ► harsh rules they have to keep things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► responsive and to keep the battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13 ◼   ► up something I've seen online in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15 ◼   ► places has been and I thought of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17 ◼   ► myself has been the idea that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20 ◼   ► what's making Apple's devices better now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22 ◼   ► and the people but the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24 ◼   ► taking the opposite approach like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:25 ◼   ► Android just letting everything run at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:26 ◼   ► once and having the process killers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28 ◼   ► Windows 8 saying you know this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29 ◼   ► operating system that runs on desktops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31 ◼   ► all the way down to phones and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► going to let everything run in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:35 ◼   ► background when it's on the desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:36 ◼   ► stuff did that strategy although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39 ◼   ► detrimental now in the long run will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:43 ◼   ► the clear winner because the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:46 ◼   ► available on phones bloated Vance just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48 ◼   ► like it did on the on the PC we kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51 ◼   ► like we set back the clock or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:52 ◼   ► rewinding five years but in five more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54 ◼   ► years our phones will be as powerful as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57 ◼   ► our PCs are now and our PCs can handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00 ◼   ► they have the CPU they have the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:01 ◼   ► and stuff like that so this these rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03 ◼   ► that apples coming up with now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:05 ◼   ► limiting things they're not stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:07 ◼   ► because I can just relax the rules later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09 ◼   ► and they have a better they have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:10 ◼   ► experience now but in the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12 ◼   ► everything wall running ones just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:13 ◼   ► dozen of PC we just got away for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:14 ◼   ► hard way to catch up and my objection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:17 ◼   ► that was always been that's all well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:20 ◼   ► good for RAM and CPU and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22 ◼   ► but where you run into problems is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24 ◼   ► battery battery in the physical size so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:28 ◼   ► this is some physics going on here where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30 ◼   ► what is the best how much energy can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32 ◼   ► store in it in a particular volume right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:36 ◼   ► and at what rate is that increasing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:41 ◼   ► know also we're going to have tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:42 ◼   ► nuclear reactors inside of tiny fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44 ◼   ► reactors and inside there that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46 ◼   ► burning matter directly into energy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48 ◼   ► like battery technology is woefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50 ◼   ► inefficient in the you know equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52 ◼   ► mc-squared sense and my question my sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:56 ◼   ► of rhetorical question myself was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:57 ◼   ► well so what does that curve look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59 ◼   ► compared to the curve for CPU speed RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01 ◼   ► density and stuff like that and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► thought that that would be the limiter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06 ◼   ► that Apple strategy is actually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:10 ◼   ► be with us for a long time simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12 ◼   ► because battery technology is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14 ◼   ► advancing at the same rate as those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16 ◼   ► other technologies as the density of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18 ◼   ► transistors on silicon and CPU speed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21 ◼   ► all that business the battery technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:24 ◼   ► is just going slower now there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:27 ◼   ► couple of links that I found there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:30 ◼   ► was like a the Moore's law off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32 ◼   ► batteries it was kind of like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34 ◼   ► well here's the curve for batteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35 ◼   ► actually it was surprisingly optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:38 ◼   ► but I don't think it was as fast as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► Moore's law for silicon and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43 ◼   ► people said the Moore's law for silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:44 ◼   ► we were in for some trouble ahead as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46 ◼   ► reach the limitations of the wavelength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48 ◼   ► of the light we're using for lithography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49 ◼   ► and people looking into x-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51 ◼   ► lithography and you get these 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:52 ◼   ► transistors like we're pushing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:53 ◼   ► against some limits and our current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55 ◼   ► technique for manufacturing silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:58 ◼   ► meanwhile apparently battery technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00 ◼   ► has been you know I'm sure due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02 ◼   ► massive investment on the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:03 ◼   ► money involvement but making some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05 ◼   ► good strides so it'll be interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:06 ◼   ► see how how that shakes out will battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:10 ◼   ► technology for our lifetime be the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12 ◼   ► limiter and make Apple strategy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:15 ◼   ► long-term winner at least in our in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18 ◼   ► lifetime and that they'll never Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20 ◼   ► never relax all those restrictions so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:21 ◼   ► always have some restrictions in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23 ◼   ► because you just can't make you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25 ◼   ► batteries can't hold enough energy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:26 ◼   ► as low powered as you make stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:30 ◼   ► can't make you can't make the components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:31 ◼   ► so low power that they don't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:32 ◼   ► certain size of battery and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34 ◼   ► make the battery any bigger because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:35 ◼   ► it's clumsy and people don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38 ◼   ► even today we're so I see so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40 ◼   ► who buy this $200 iPhone plus a two-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:43 ◼   ► contract worth thousands right at sleek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:46 ◼   ► and it's small and what's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:47 ◼   ► thing you do they slap on this lumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49 ◼   ► Quasimodo backpack full of battery that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:52 ◼   ► makes it thing the size of a bar of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54 ◼   ► soap but they need to do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► they say well I need to be you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57 ◼   ► need to wake up at 6 a.m. and I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59 ◼   ► working at 9 a.m. or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:00 ◼   ► my business travel or something I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:01 ◼   ► can't have this better your honor out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► I gotta get this Mophie Juice pack pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04 ◼   ► box whatever thing that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06 ◼   ► they've got to do it's great that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08 ◼   ► can do that but it shows that even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:11 ◼   ► even with today's trade offs even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:12 ◼   ► today's strict rules about multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14 ◼   ► and real limitations people still want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16 ◼   ► more battery life and so battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18 ◼   ► technology is not keeping up with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20 ◼   ► demands like if Apple if Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22 ◼   ► provide a battery that provided 12 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24 ◼   ► of web browsing on their phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25 ◼   ► would do it like believe me they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► currently the only way to do that is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29 ◼   ► need more volume sorry bad technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31 ◼   ► such that even if we made the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33 ◼   ► iPhone out of battery nothing else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35 ◼   ► in is just a simply a battery we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37 ◼   ► couldn't provide you with enough energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:38 ◼   ► and it to a good approximation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:41 ◼   ► what the iPad is if you open it up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:42 ◼   ► just basically a giant battery with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44 ◼   ► screen attached to it and then these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:45 ◼   ► little dangly bits off to the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47 ◼   ► iPhone is mostly battery but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:50 ◼   ► getting down to small sizes where now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:51 ◼   ► the screen and the CPU starts to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53 ◼   ► a significant portion of the thing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55 ◼   ► apple so far has not been willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57 ◼   ► make things thicker like if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:58 ◼   ► inside an iPhone 4 the battery takes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01 ◼   ► like the one half of the thing but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03 ◼   ► battery doesn't run the full width and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05 ◼   ► the full height of the case you Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07 ◼   ► wanted to they can make the entire case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:08 ◼   ► you know four millimeters thicker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► make a full height full with battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12 ◼   ► covering the entire back of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:13 ◼   ► maybe they'd have some problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15 ◼   ► Wi-Fi antenna do something good I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17 ◼   ► but yet that low battery would last a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:18 ◼   ► lot longer but the thing would start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:19 ◼   ► look more like a bar of soap and Alba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21 ◼   ► doesn't want to do that so this tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23 ◼   ► between how fast can battery technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:26 ◼   ► advanced versus how how fast can the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:29 ◼   ► other components advanced is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31 ◼   ► determine whether Microsoft and Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:35 ◼   ► will have to rethink their idea of even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:38 ◼   ► having a possibility of just everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:39 ◼   ► running in like desktop mode you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41 ◼   ► like you know Windows 8 tablet oh we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43 ◼   ► get a big hunk in 14-inch Windows 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:45 ◼   ► tablet but a huge battery in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► then ever you and when your desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► stuff and how long does that last is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49 ◼   ► last it suddenly become like a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51 ◼   ► battery you know three hours four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► that like people would find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54 ◼   ► unacceptable if you had a tablet or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:57 ◼   ► battery lasted three hours now the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► reason we accept it on laptops is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:00 ◼   ► because we're just used to it that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► it's always been right so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:06 ◼   ► my battery oh my open question on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:07 ◼   ► battery technology I got to put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09 ◼   ► links in the show notes do thee the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11 ◼   ► Moore's law for batteries curves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► and the next the final thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:17 ◼   ► looking at Metro windows Metro that UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:22 ◼   ► it really is the antithesis of typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25 ◼   ► Microsoft design which is why people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27 ◼   ► so excited about it it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:28 ◼   ► everything removed no shading no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:32 ◼   ► artificial 3d no no giggles no widgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:36 ◼   ► flat stuff nice typography emphasis in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:40 ◼   ► typography plain colors and just a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:45 ◼   ► look and looking at Metro maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48 ◼   ► mentioned this on a previous show I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:49 ◼   ► just iterating it by looking at Metro it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:52 ◼   ► made am I looking back in iOS it made I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54 ◼   ► always look old to me which is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56 ◼   ► pretty pretty amazing achievement yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58 ◼   ► usually what Apple does with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:00 ◼   ► products right like they come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02 ◼   ► new product and you look at the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04 ◼   ► you like all that space crap or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06 ◼   ► looking back at 10.3 with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08 ◼   ► pinstripes in Mac os10 right yeah I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10 ◼   ► how did I ever stare at the screen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12 ◼   ► is hideous these drawers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13 ◼   ► pinstripes like it makes you it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15 ◼   ► fashion fashion makes you feel that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17 ◼   ► like how did I ever wear those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:17 ◼   ► bell-bottoms but how did I ever have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19 ◼   ► mullet you know alright so that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:24 ◼   ► is quite an achievement and that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27 ◼   ► back to the whole skeuomorphic if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29 ◼   ► pronouncing that correctly the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30 ◼   ► business of Apple loves to make its you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32 ◼   ► eyes look like things like the reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:33 ◼   ► things with the time they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:34 ◼   ► those flippy over clocks where if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36 ◼   ► numbers slipped down and around uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:39 ◼   ► wonder if Apple will feel any pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41 ◼   ► because there is now a competitor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43 ◼   ► regardless of how they do in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45 ◼   ► the look of their products makes apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47 ◼   ► products look older and clunkier and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:51 ◼   ► can't remember the last time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:52 ◼   ► happened certainly it wasn't happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:53 ◼   ► with Android and herb is not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:54 ◼   ► apple stuff look older and clunkier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56 ◼   ► this just through sheer simplification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58 ◼   ► is saying hey Apple if we just fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► forward your timeline given current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► trends your UI should look like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05 ◼   ► later because historically Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07 ◼   ► with berries bumps in the road removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09 ◼   ► stuff like that removed texture remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:12 ◼   ► attacks kind of reversing now is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:13 ◼   ► a lump and this is definitely a bump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15 ◼   ► the road they went way they remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:16 ◼   ► remove remove moved all the way up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18 ◼   ► Mike I was 10.5 leopard and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20 ◼   ► started adding back with ten seven and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► with the leather bits on the calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25 ◼   ► and a linen pattern and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26 ◼   ► OS 5 they're adding back like we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28 ◼   ► pretty clean buttons in earlier iOS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30 ◼   ► now that lending texture is everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32 ◼   ► and our applications have these weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:33 ◼   ► papyrus looks and there's leather on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35 ◼   ► stuff too and this little the flippy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► wish I knew what the name of those bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38 ◼   ► you know the the digits where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► half the digit on one side and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42 ◼   ► digit in the other when they flip over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► no I'm not I know exactly what you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45 ◼   ► flicker digit I don't know the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:48 ◼   ► term is flippy digits but yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:51 ◼   ► adding like think about that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:52 ◼   ► adding that in there because someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53 ◼   ► thought it was like whimsical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:54 ◼   ► interesting but it makes its heavyweight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57 ◼   ► like you look at it in like the mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:58 ◼   ► weight of that stuff this is all artsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00 ◼   ► fartsy designer e type stuff but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02 ◼   ► it I think anyone who's a designer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:05 ◼   ► someone who's into aesthetics looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07 ◼   ► that and then looks at the metro stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:08 ◼   ► and the metro stuff is like oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:09 ◼   ► like a breath of fresh air right and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11 ◼   ► it may you may like the Apple one better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13 ◼   ► and it certainly is also the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15 ◼   ► looking flippy digits I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:16 ◼   ► right there the artwork is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18 ◼   ► it is interesting and it's and it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► and it's familiar to people and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22 ◼   ► it's a more successful design but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:25 ◼   ► feeling you get as an artist or designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27 ◼   ► or someone who's into these things when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:28 ◼   ► you look at metro and that is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30 ◼   ► them feels like weight being lifted off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:33 ◼   ► your shoulders design wise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35 ◼   ► historically Apple has always been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37 ◼   ► company that gives you that feeling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39 ◼   ► look at Windows then you go to Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:40 ◼   ► you be like ah nice just finally what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43 ◼   ► stuff is gone look at 16 color icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:46 ◼   ► sharp edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:46 ◼   ► all right great pebbles and stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48 ◼   ► and this is this is a flip interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:52 ◼   ► flip that I still think I like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:53 ◼   ► iOS 5 looks better but here is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:56 ◼   ► competitor UI that they seemed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58 ◼   ► competitive to giving me the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:01 ◼   ► that normally Apple gives me this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03 ◼   ► have no significance because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05 ◼   ► the other factors will determine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07 ◼   ► success of Windows 8 in the market much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09 ◼   ► more than this but it is a turn of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11 ◼   ► events that I noted yeah put a marker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:14 ◼   ► the in the timeline of a technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16 ◼   ► battle here marker on Microsoft giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19 ◼   ► me the Apple feeling for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21 ◼   ► so you're switching no I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:25 ◼   ► iPhone switching for what happen yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27 ◼   ► there is one more minor point that I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29 ◼   ► squeeze in here that Horus brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31 ◼   ► from ages ago and I had in my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:32 ◼   ► forever I got to find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:33 ◼   ► his point was about there's still no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:36 ◼   ► competition for the iPod Touch which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:39 ◼   ► amazing because the iPod this is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:40 ◼   ► tweet of his iPod to apple sold 4.1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42 ◼   ► million iPod Touches last quarter and 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:45 ◼   ► million iPod Touches in the last 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:46 ◼   ► months nobody else wants a piece of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48 ◼   ► nobody else thinks that they can sell 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50 ◼   ► million phone without a phone products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52 ◼   ► alright that's pretty amazing that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:56 ◼   ► all this time Android and Windows 8 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:58 ◼   ► Windows Mobile and whatever Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00 ◼   ► Phone 7 nobody wants that like we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02 ◼   ► phones we make tablets there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:05 ◼   ► technically preventing them from making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:06 ◼   ► an iPod Touch is basically iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:09 ◼   ► without the phone with a bunch of parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11 ◼   ► you know cheap and up because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13 ◼   ► you know the subsidy from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:14 ◼   ► thing they could make that it's within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:15 ◼   ► their technological grasp but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17 ◼   ► doesn't and it's not all we don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19 ◼   ► it's a good miss 23 million units in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:20 ◼   ► year you can turn up your nose at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22 ◼   ► nobody wants to make that uh I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:25 ◼   ► of the interesting things about the why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27 ◼   ► is that why are they make it it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28 ◼   ► that the weaknesses of those platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30 ◼   ► because the reason Apple can make it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32 ◼   ► it even without the phone and without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:34 ◼   ► the always avail always online stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36 ◼   ► they have so many other strengths in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38 ◼   ► media world where they can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40 ◼   ► device what can you do with that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42 ◼   ► play games in your house you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:43 ◼   ► download and watch movies you can listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45 ◼   ► to music is it's an iPod all those media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47 ◼   ► and application things make that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49 ◼   ► worthwhile it's why I use it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:50 ◼   ► time so yeah I use it on Wi-Fi and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52 ◼   ► do my web browsing because it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53 ◼   ► great web browser I can play games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:56 ◼   ► run local applications and even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:59 ◼   ► not online all the time and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:00 ◼   ► download media from store and buy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02 ◼   ► and watch movies and stuff like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:06 ◼   ► only other company that I think has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:07 ◼   ► those same strengths and canfield device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09 ◼   ► like that is Amazon what would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11 ◼   ► with an Amazon thing the size of an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14 ◼   ► touch it didn't have any sort of 3G Anna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16 ◼   ► you still do all the stuff you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:17 ◼   ► with it with the fire you read books on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:18 ◼   ► it watch movies watch TV shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20 ◼   ► hopefully eventually download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22 ◼   ► applications but Android I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:25 ◼   ► Android vendors are like if we put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:28 ◼   ► an Android phone that doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:29 ◼   ► phone what are people gonna do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:30 ◼   ► go to the awesome Android store and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:33 ◼   ► first-run movies that are at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35 ◼   ► download music from our music store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:38 ◼   ► listen to stuff or play games like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41 ◼   ► you can play Angry Birds you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:42 ◼   ► probably download a couple movies or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:44 ◼   ► you're a geek you can you know download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46 ◼   ► and rip and shove stuff on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:47 ◼   ► it's all open and everything but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:49 ◼   ► not that that market is too small it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:51 ◼   ► not 23 but 23 million people don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53 ◼   ► to download torrents and more we stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:56 ◼   ► them on their Android thing so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:57 ◼   ► always considered the lack of an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59 ◼   ► Touch competitor as as an admission by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:02 ◼   ► the competition that their devices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04 ◼   ► not valuable enough without the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06 ◼   ► functionality to be a standalone product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:07 ◼   ► or at least they think it is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08 ◼   ► they're wrong maybe it really would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10 ◼   ► great seller if someone would just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:11 ◼   ► one and there were like Samsung or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:14 ◼   ► couple of people have had ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:16 ◼   ► competitor like devices you could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18 ◼   ► that 7-inch tablets or creeping down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:20 ◼   ► that thing - I think they even fielded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:21 ◼   ► one like I don't remember the names like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23 ◼   ► the galaxy something-or-other blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25 ◼   ► was like it was like a Samsung phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27 ◼   ► without the phone but didn't didn't set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29 ◼   ► the world on fire right yeah so I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:33 ◼   ► lack of iPod Touch competitors is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:34 ◼   ► something I will continue to watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36 ◼   ► what it says about the competition's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38 ◼   ► confidence and the actuality of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40 ◼   ► ability to compete with Apple I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:43 ◼   ► very interesting we were over time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:47 ◼   ► think I probably finally I skipped a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49 ◼   ► bunch of Windows 8 stuff believe it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:51 ◼   ► not actually skip our tablet yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:52 ◼   ► think we're done with it finally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:57 ◼   ► then next week if no one else dies or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5397">TS</a>]

01:30:00 ◼   ► other major software is released or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:03 ◼   ► one else is interesting podcast that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:04 ◼   ► want to comment on I'll talk about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:07 ◼   ► ails Microsoft all right what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09 ◼   ► Microsoft potentially seven days for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12 ◼   ► and if you're new to this show you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14 ◼   ► go to 5x5 odd TV slash hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17 ◼   ► there's not including this 138 episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:20 ◼   ► for you to get caught up on how many how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:23 ◼   ► many would they have to listen to a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25 ◼   ► between now in the next week to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:26 ◼   ► fully caught up you know I recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28 ◼   ► caught up on a podcast that I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30 ◼   ► realized existed and it takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:32 ◼   ► time to get caught up on yes but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:34 ◼   ► worth it just resign yourself to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:36 ◼   ► being caught up for six months and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:37 ◼   ► go through it let's go sir get kana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:39 ◼   ► every excuse to work out a little longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:42 ◼   ► welcome to treadmill a little bit longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:43 ◼   ► when we listen to one episode a day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45 ◼   ► lengthen your commute perhaps take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:48 ◼   ► take the scenic route someone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50 ◼   ► chat room gives the name of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:51 ◼   ► was called the Galaxy player yes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:52 ◼   ► was the thing I was thinking of huh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54 ◼   ► it counts but that's on 23 million of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56 ◼   ► them a year okay so uh let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5456">TS</a>]

01:31:04 ◼   ► siracusa on twitter SI RAC USA I'm Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:11 ◼   ► Benjamin on Twitter and lots of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► shows for you and 5x5 should go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18 ◼   ► and comparable that's a good one to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:21 ◼   ► caught up on you're John siracusa in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:23 ◼   ► whole different whole different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25 ◼   ► whole different light seems a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27 ◼   ► similar not really you really come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30 ◼   ► of your shell on that show mm-hm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:32 ◼   ► were on fire today though here this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:36 ◼   ► good one just one for the record books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38 ◼   ► today alright well thanks everybody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:42 ◼   ► tuning in and we will be back next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44 ◼   ► have a good week John you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5506">TS</a>]

01:32:08 ◼   ► you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmFsfKI/5528">TS</a>]