00:00:05 ◼ ► talkshow ruminating on exactly what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► wrong in the world of Apple and related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/7">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/10">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► about buying my co-host John siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/11">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► episode number 38 our two sponsors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/19">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► easy DNS comm and Rackspace comm tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► you more about them as we continue on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/27">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► with this program Jon siracusa how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/30">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► you I'm doing fine you sound good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► sound well yeah I've gotten sick yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► I'm getting there well you have kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► kids around the world they catch her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► here everyone in the family of the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► shot now I think except for me oh how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► different things about the efficacy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/51">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► getting them pretty much since I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► difference I still always get a cold or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► several of them during the winter oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/63">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► that's a cold that's not the fairs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/64">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► well maybe it would be worse you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► I can't tell the difference I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/67">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► think a flu shot does anything for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► cold and you can yeah you probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► believe medicine work theater so of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► course I do but I'm saying why would a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/73">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► flu shot protect you from the cold well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► it's just protecting you against one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/77">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► particular strain of virus and so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► you don't get that strain of you the flu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► shot but there are other strains I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► they're less severe or I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► sometimes they make the flu shot wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► where they try to predict what strain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► will be and they get it wrong but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/89">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► figure it's better than nothing no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► I'm not saying don't do it I'm saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► wouldn't expect any protection from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► common cold from a flu shot I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► I I still get sick during the winter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/98">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► losers are all did you ready for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► some follow-up is piling up I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► skipping over wheat well last week last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/113">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► something different but let's just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► with the follow-up then let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► start with it I'm looking into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/121">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► links that you put in here yeah last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► actually I just look at the links to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► this is the problem I put these links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► and then during the show I forget to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► look at the page where I put the links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► all right so I'll do a limited selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► to follow up okay so this is a one from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► a couple weeks ago I think I just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► got to there was a New York Times story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► I think it was just on the online site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/144">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► actually know I only see the online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► version it was part of a larger section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► article was called why is my toaster so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► bad and I put a link in the show notes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► feel this is partial vindication of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► toaster obsession it's a very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► article it just explains toaster seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/161">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► the article didn't extrapolate from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► like we did in the show about that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► worse and more diverse that the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/172">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► consumer electronics and other products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► are expanding in the variety of options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► you have but decreasing in quality sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► of a race to the bottom type things this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/180">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► little snippet did not go into that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► I do feel partially vindicated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► something appeared in The New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► toasters this is one of your ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► writing pieces no I would have been much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► more severe than than this thing so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► just like I think it's like maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/194">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► lifestyle help you know it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► not it's not on the news page on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► link in the show notes by the way when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► you click on it it brings up this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► interactive thing that has multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► sections the first section is Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► candid inner party be stress-free that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► not the one you want you have to click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► on a little sidebar I tried very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► get a URL that would bring you to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► sidebar being clicked but short of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► writing a big long JavaScript thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► wasn't happening so you'll have to click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► on why is my toaster so bad it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► second item down on the left side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► wanted so we talked a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► my family my mother calling me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► Steve Jobs thing and and last show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► we talked about that stuff and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► have another story about my mother that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/240">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► I want to share hmm during that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► conversation she mentioned I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► we're talking about the podcast and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► actually listens to the podcast and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► I always tell her that I think it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► of silly for her to listen because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/251">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► talking about a lot of technical stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► that she's not interested in at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► really has no background in of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► she listen just because I'm her son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► right and she said well actually learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► stuff from your podcasts do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► I didn't know I can follow along and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► learn new information and she said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► recent show I learned about that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► you mentioned about that wiggle mode on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/269">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► iOS devices yeah she learned about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► she said I never knew that's what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► thing was when they when the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► icons are wiggling and everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► could rearrange them and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/279">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► and no Bret this is someone who has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► an iPod Touch since the first generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► and uses mostly iPod touches my sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► has one she has one and she said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► every time she saw that she thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► she'd done something bad and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► thing to do when my sister would see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► mother would tell her maybe maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► messed something up why are they shaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► and eventually they would just like pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► out it and figure out how to stop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► thing from shaking but first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► feel like this is a personal failing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/306">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► that my my own mother my family didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► know what that was I guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► accidentally activate it if you just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► you tap just a little bit too long or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► you're lazy you don't lift your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► up right and then it goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► wiggle mode for a range in yes but her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► conception of how computers work was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► that this I guess that this that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► little shaking icons weren't something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► that had to be explicitly programmed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► someone but it was like a an outward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► symptom of something that had gone wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► the things she compared to was like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► Windows NT you remember when you put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► the bad username and password and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/336">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► little thing would shake back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► next did that too right this Windows NT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► do that I know next did I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► don't think so all right well I like Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► West does not go as 10 still do it - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► this is where you rent prompted for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► username and password to log in you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► in bad information and the the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► thing that you type the username and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/353">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► password and shakes back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/354">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► really fast like it's shaking its head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► manifestation of the iPod telling her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► know you've done something wrong or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► about to explode or I'm about to cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► right it's like please stop yeah please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► guy I guess you didn't notice the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► X's that suddenly appear oh if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► that's like a big warning like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► don't touch me yeah sorry it just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/374">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► to show don't assume and this is someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► who's used Mac since the original Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► we've add Mac's our entire life she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► iOS devices and she uses them all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► time just type odds it's not like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► unfamiliar with Apple technology I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► don't know how someone can use an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► Touch for however many years she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► using it and not not noted a success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/397">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► I'll tell you something that's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► about that wiggle wiggle mode widow mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► if you you can go into the maybe you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/410">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► done this with your iPod Touches that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► you give to your kids but we haven't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► raishin iPad that my boy uses and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► he'd see would delete apps sometimes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► then he would get yeah I don't think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► did it on purpose or if he did he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/428">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► just you know he was experimenting not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► knowing that if he puts it into wiggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► mode and then presses the X that the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► will be gone I don't think he knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► deleted some apps that he won that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► so there there are settings of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► that you can parental control settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► and things like that that allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► prevent your children from deleting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► app and I had enabled a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► parental controls not only because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► didn't want to buying things because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/458">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► didn't want him deleting apps and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► getting upset and saying daddy where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► my spongebob app and what's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► is it you can still put it into wiggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► mode but the little X's don't appear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/467">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► rearrange them but you can't can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/472">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► parental control in the other sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► the word yeah that's the other common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► joke parental controls right for parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► to protect your children but really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► mostly for older children to configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► devices so that parents can't screw them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► up right like what was that called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► simple finder where you just had the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► clicky button to valincia there was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► a tease member at ease at ease yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► basically big punk and juicy bevel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► buttons there those simple finder - you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► know my mother always of when I teased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► her about these things she always says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► someday this will be you your children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► will be making fun of you and you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► know how to work there that's true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► tell her this is not true yeah never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► this will never be true and I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► sad of the day if this day ever comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► that my children can beat me in video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► games but I will forestall that day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► I don't think there ever be a day where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► I just am as incompetent in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/529">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► there are sizing I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► certain things though like I'll give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► my grandfather um very very smart man he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► was uh he was a scientist he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► metallurgist he you know very very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► analytical uh incredibly you know gifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► mind and when he was when he was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/552">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► know probably in his 70s 60s or 70s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► remember web TV remember that thing I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► unfortunately he got one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► and he worked I mean he knew how to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► anything he worked at just fine but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► there were little things in there that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► remember would throw him off like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► example when you know how when you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► an email chain or if you were to forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► signature to the bottom of the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► like there are settings that would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► get around this but people I guess we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► sending him things an email and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► signatures would be appended to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► puzzling he's like it are these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► trying to take credit you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► somebody would send him the body of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► article that they would like for him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► read and at the bottom it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► that person's name he'd be like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/600">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► that mean the person wrote it or thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► they wrote it like little details like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► that there's sort of the culture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► surrounds technology I think as an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► person John you might not understand you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► might not get it you might understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► the technology involved but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► eventually they will be beating you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► videogames some that will just come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► hand-eye coordination deterioration with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► age I'm sure that will happen but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► technology or not an abuser now someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► in the world and the chat room Adamo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/631">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► something completely different than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/635">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► can conceive of and that it's happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► every generation before us I disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► with that actually I think there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► a couple of inflection points there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/640">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► pre and post Industrial Revolution where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► you were like farmers and whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► then there was machines and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► generation if you if your parents grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► up in the sort of a gray and rural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► reindustrialization age they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► understand this huge influx of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► machines and gadgets and technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► manufacturing and interchangeable parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► and all that business right so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► one inflection point and I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/660">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► was a stretch there where from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► generation to the next there wasn't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► huge leap you know fathers and sons both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► engines and that stay the same for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► while and the second inflection point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► Turing machines uh you know transistors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► silicon chips basically where suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► they started to infect everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► that was a new thing where we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► these very very very tiny electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► machines you know but on printed circuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► boards and microchips and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► that and that infected everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► then you had one generation who didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► microchips and next generation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/691">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► they were everywhere so that if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► father and son both loved internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/694">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► combustion engines the father would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► bemoaned the fact that now we can't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► on his car because you need a $10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► special car computer to hook up to it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► do anything useful right except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► change the oils and the spark plugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► stuff like that so that's the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► inflection point I think we were born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► just that the second inflection point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► was happening and we are acclimated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► and we're used to keeping up with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► I think we'll be fine as long as there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► not a third inflection point in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► lifetime or a third inflection point it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► could be something like biological based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► technology or gene splicing or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► that we're not it didn't happen in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► formative years that we're not prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► to deal but and then you know if our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► modifying themselves to use a neural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► implants already but I I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/729">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► stuff is so far off we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► worry so I think that our generation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► safe and we will aside from the just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► typical of like getting physically less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► able not being able to see small text on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► screen just a physical deterioration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► aging that we'll have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/742">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► obviously there'll be that but not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► much the inability to understand to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/745">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► up with technology because we're on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► of it we're going to do you envision a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► time will you just stop paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/753">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► to the stuff and does not be interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► in at all and not keep up anymore and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► like yeah whatever I have now is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► I'm not going to look at it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► then your son or grandson will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► something and you'll have no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► it is I just don't see that happening I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► don't see it happening but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► hard to predict what's gonna happen 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► 30 40 years from now and where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► interests will be you think after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/770">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► technology the way that you do now yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► and I use but in the thing I wrote about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► Steve Jobs I mentioned my grandfather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► and he he was one of the big reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► that I got a Mac in the family he got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► Mac first and then we got ours shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► after after seeing his and he kept up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► with technology basically till the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► he died it was on top of it all and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► is someone who didn't grow up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► technology who worked for the Navy his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► whole life and worked with his hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► his hobby was woodworking so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► you know I think it's in my genes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► think it'll definitely be on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► that was a big sidebar let's continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► with faux all right go ahead there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► couple people complaining about my could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► care less couldn't care less thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► is really your could care less couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► care less thing because you were the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► who supposedly says it more often but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► don't know and I could care less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/816">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► I've talked to some people about it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► email a lot of them are disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► that I was so lacks on it and my point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► in the previous thing was that the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► to the side of the fact that speech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► writing is about communication the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► message that some people were getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► from that though was that I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► okay to say could care less in that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► that I do it willingly and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► worried about I try not to do it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► trying to avoid saying this I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► suggest that you not be inaccurate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► all I was saying was that when I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► this mistake which happens from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► time I'm not as upset about it as some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► other people seem to be because in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► particular instance I think everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► knows what I mean and one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► instances that was brought up is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► misuse of literally you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► people you see a lot of jokes made about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► unnecessary quotation marks and signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► and the use of the word literally to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► mean the opposite I think that one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► much worse and if I found myself ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► concerned simply because there's no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/870">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► alternative and you're squat you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► whereas I was saying that I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► heard anybody say I could care less to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► mean anything other than I couldn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► less but then some people said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► that's not actually true because then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/883">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► think was someone from England said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► my country people actually do say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► could care less to mean the opposite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► and by perverting that meaning you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► squatting on top of a perfectly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► phrase that other people want to use I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► don't hear that in the u.s. like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► says I couldn't care less than someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► says well I could I maybe it happens I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► don't know but anyway that the point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► get across is that I am NOT for saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► things incorrectly it's just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► there is a continuum of how bad it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► and I was saying I don't beat myself up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► as bad about saying could care less if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► do it once in a while as I would if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► found myself standing saying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► that I think is worse yes no not we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► not going to talk about flammable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► inflammable s Williams in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/926">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► one more one more follow-up so we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► talked a lot about television that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► complaints about TiVo and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► and I was on the TiVo website recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► trying to look up when the premiere of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/944">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► actually in two days so I have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► sure my Tebow is going to get twice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► sometimes it's the reason I go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► website because it's so much faster to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► do anything a jewel something is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► anything through through the website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► the website isn't great actually what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► showed you just done is typed walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► dead in Google and you know hit return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► pick the first link and then I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► when the show was premiering but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► wanted to like make sure I had a season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► pass schedule so I was going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► website because it's infinitely faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► use my browser even on TiVo's somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► pokey website than it is to flip around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► with a stupid remote and I saw on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► website when I was there that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► a new T Bo premiere product I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► how old this is made have been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► for a while so I apologize so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► all news to everybody else but it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► TiVo premiere elite if you recall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► TiVo premier is new skinnier model but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► horrendously slow and it's filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► advertisements and it's just worse in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► pretty much every possible way than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► previous interface despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► it is finally in HD which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► embarrassment I don't go back into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► TiVo complaints but it's good that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► good episode so I looked at the TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► premiere and I looked at the specs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► relevance specs what makes this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► elite one I'm just waiting for a TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► Premiere Elite Pro Gold anyway has four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► tuners instead of two which is good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► guess I don't buttons will feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► limited by two tuners but occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► I'm have two tuners in use it has two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► terabytes hard drive instead of one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► it's 300 hours of HD programming which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► is nice bigger hard drives become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► available it's nice that they're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► them it has one gig of ram instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► 512 again nice to see at evil actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► bumping the hardware specs in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► machine instead of shipping the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► cruddy stuff sure but the very next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► thing I did when I saw the read those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► specs is I went to Google and typed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► I was like TiVo premiere elite faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► I'd wanted to see this is all I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► know is so so you got all the stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► this thing faster than the other one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► faster or speed versus all the one and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► found a good length that I put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► show notes of someone the board was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► your L era I shouldn't let this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► happen why the tebow elite is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► faster than the TiVo premier that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► music to my ears that is the exact your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► exact URL that I want and here's a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► from that URL it says it says it boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► in half the time which I really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► about is on every boot but then it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► you can move through the menus virtually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► lag free we really like free exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► what I wanted to hear because my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► complaint is it's the interface is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► horrendously slow I also would like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► if they got rid of all the stupid ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► everywhere and it wasn't flash and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► these other things right now I read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► and I was very happy but then I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► thought about the old cascade dishwasher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► detergent head you remember those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► cascade gauges get to your dishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► virtually spotless I remember that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► and that you know virtually spotless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► means your dishes have spots on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► that's the that's the that's the literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► so I read again you move through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► menus virtually like phrase it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► they're still egg and I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► but it does mean that it's faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► the old ones so I'm excited to see one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► of these in the wild and try flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► through the menus and see if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► make me want to gouge my eyes out so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► glad the TiVo is doing something instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► of simply going out of business I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► glad that they continued to put ads all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► over their interface and generally be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► engagement and engagement TiVo survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► things that you can sign up for where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► they send you something once a month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► so and you answer survey questions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► has the most in named things and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► have little comment boxes but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► how often to use the TiVo website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► have you found our support on the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► website helpful have used our live chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► support no just make your product better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► about you know what do you think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► should do this and I remember the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► good question I ever had was once is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► think we should would you like a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► standard-def but just show you high def [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► unless there's no high def equivalent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► something I admitted even s that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► like yes you should have done this years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► ago your interface should be in HD you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► should not show me standard def as an HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► equivalent I don't care what channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► things are on find it for me huh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► want to get into it again let me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► upset yeah so TiVo continues to lurch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► forward I'm cautiously optimistic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► the Premier elite will be better I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► for the world and more for you yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► I'll tell you what we stopped usin we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► stopped using our TiVo you just have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► streaming streaming and we do have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► like a cable company provided DVR that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► you know you're it's a fad but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► faster and that's the thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► getting through those menus the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► it bogged down and the we I had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► external do you say eSATA or SATA no I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► would have had an answer before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► before you said both of them but now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► brain is conflicted well they I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► say it at all but yeah I know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► mean the eSATA drive that I had added to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► it the external drive started to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► problems like it it you know the TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► would boot and then it got into a cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► where it just kept rebooting and kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► rebooting like and after like the tenth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► time of it rebooting I disconnected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► drive and a booted fine and told me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► the drive had been disconnected and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► wanted to go forward without the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► whatever the TiVo does to marry what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► on the drive with what's on its internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► drive it's sort of irreversible once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► disconnect it and tell it to go forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► and I said okay and it lost all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► content that had been shared or split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► across those drives and so I plugged the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► drive into the machine the Mac Pro that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► I bought from Marco has an eSATA I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► say it the other way just so that I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► be right half the time an eSATA port on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► the back of it so I connected the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► to that booted up the machine looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► what was on the drive it seemed fine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► had no errors reformatted it started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► trying to you know do a do a clone to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► because I figured that would put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► through its paces using SuperDuper to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► clone the internal drive and halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► unresponsive so I set out so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► I'm sure it's something wrong with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► drive and packed up the TiVo and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► away really it's sad that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► supposed like nice appliance device is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► supposed to be easy to use is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► harder to use than if it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► just a media PC type setup because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► was a PC it would have a file system you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► understood it would not be this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► you know Linux thing but the if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► just it was just a commodity product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► that happened to be configured to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► record television course it can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► because it's got abuses CableCARD crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► and you have to get all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► hoops you have to jump through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► support cable card and it just said when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► something that's supposed to be I plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► it in it just works when it when it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► wrong I don't think that we should even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► allowed this external SATA stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► when it goes wrong you're stuck with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► situation where you even with extensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► skills with regular computers you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► revive the thing like you have to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► away for the special boot disks if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► boot disk goes bad because it's gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► have the special TiVo software on it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► that's why I so wish that Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► make one of these things but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► want to and we discuss that re so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► think you put the Siri video Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► Snell's Siri demo video in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► notes yeah I watched that video on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► series stuff people I've gotten feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► in both directions some people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► that they think there will be a series a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► clash and that they understand what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► was saying about it not being AI but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► people not understanding that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► people are saying it really is AI you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► don't understand how good it is and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► people in the middle who are saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► it's not going to be as bad as you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► people will understand the limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► and there won't be it won't be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► deal so a lot of people saw that Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► video the Jason Snell did Bri sits there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► talking to the phone for 11 minutes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► so and showing you what it can do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► the people who thought Siri was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► be a disaster and the people who thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► Syria is going to be awesome both cite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► that video as proving their point I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► look how great Siri is in the same exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► video the people will say look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► it shows you were right about Syria but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► a disaster to clarify I don't think Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► is going to be a disaster I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► tried to emphasize in the past show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► think it will be extremely useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► I mean ignoring the dictation thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► alone which is just a huge boon where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► you if you don't want to tap something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► out with your fingers you can just speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► it up and I use speech recognition on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► Mac all the time and it's great so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► love that one on the phone I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► going to be extremely efficient to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► reminders or set alarms and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► that without having to tap type on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► phone without having to put your greasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► little fingers on there you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► use speech for it what I was afraid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► is that people don't understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► Siri is not human level intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► people confused when I said AI they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► like well of course is artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► intelligence that's what Siri is look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► these articles it comes from SR riots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► from military research it's hard to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► overloading the term there I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► human level artificial intelligence like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► it's another sentient being that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► talk with and that sounds silly with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► like of course it's not it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► know we don't have a technology it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► it's just a computer program it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► actual person but I'm afraid that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► consumers don't understand that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► actually it's kind of an uncanny valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► type thing you know when it's when is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► nothing like a person people like all at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► really like a machine alright but as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► approaches something that appears to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► intelligent people will make that leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► and say oh I this is just a person I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► talk to whoever I want and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► inevitably get to a situation where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► say something that another human would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► understand perfectly but Siri doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► understand that again not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► the recognition of their speech into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► semantics like Siri doesn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► what they meant or Siri does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► unexpected and then that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► jarring to them because they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► they were talking with this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► intelligent you know being inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► phone room and then they're yanked right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► out of that illusion when it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► something stupid and they said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► serie is so stupid and the more times it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► does that they feel betrayed by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► thing that they thought was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► little person and so instead of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► impressed as they were that wow this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► understanding me and doing what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► they it's like a backlash and they say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► thought it was doing what I wanted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► now I realize it's really stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► somebody think of serials a series so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► dumb I said something the other day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► it did something totally random and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► so stupid that's the kind of backlash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► you get it's not a rational response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► the quality of the product it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► expectations being raised well above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► where they should have been and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► come crashing back down some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► people had issues with my suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► that it was like a text adventure and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► said no Siri understands all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► different syntaxes you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► phrase things in a certain way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► Jason snow in his video does the Yoda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► type speech to show that it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► understands that when you you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► estimating text adventure games better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► the better interactive fiction can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► the very original text adventure games I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► wasn't really talking about that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► are gonna have to learn that to speak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► a specific syntax low they will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► understand the world of things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► can talk to Siri about is constrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► and it's not a person you can't just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► can't just give it arbitrary tasks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► you couldn't assist them and the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► thing about Syria though is if you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► human assistant and you and you gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► some sort of vague instruction they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► ask for clarification you can discuss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► and you could feel confident you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► them to understand what you wanted Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► lets you clarify in some ways but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► you're going down the wrong path you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► trying to tell s Syria to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► that has no idea what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► about and it never will you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► there's no way you can clarify that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► backlash manifests itself in any way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► if people just start dazzled by the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► things that do work and and don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► when it fails the other thing I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► interested in is if non-technical people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► find themselves carve out a little slice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► of functionality that they find I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► technical people will they'll figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► out they'll learn what it can do what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► can't they'll learn which of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► things is most useful to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► they'll just sort of make a routine out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► of using it for particular things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► people will decide for example I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► use Siri except when I want to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► reminders because that's much faster way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► to do it from here I only use Siri to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► messages and to set alarm so when I cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► my egg or you know they'll decide which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► things that Siri is the most efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► approach for and they'll they'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► embarrassed to talk to my phone whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► any place other than in my house I'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► when I'm in the house but not when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► out so you know every the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► people will will figure it out I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► if the people who are not technical who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► have no idea that the iPhone 4s is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► came out there's a new product or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► different than anything else they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► end up getting a phone like a year from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► now and it's got Siri on it after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► playing with it or whatever if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► themselves using it or will they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► play with it for five minutes and decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► it's not for them that'll be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► to see how that catches on with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► general population there will be people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► in the chat room we're saying that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► you you know we've discussed this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► Siri right now is only available on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► iPhone 4s if you try it on a four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► you just get voice control now I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► if we got into the subject but what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► you think is the reason for that is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► physical hardware limitation or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► something that just sort of sweetens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► pot of the 4s so I fix it finally did to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► tear down on the forest and I looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► it to see if there was anything in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► that I could say was hard where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► was serious specific nothing jumped out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► to me doesn't mean it's not there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► all I saw was just in a fivesome you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► know the memory the radio-controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► chip from Qualcomm power amplifier like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► it wasn't there wasn't some chip that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► was labeled by the iFixit guys as and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► here's the chip that doesn't exist in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► any other phones that must be there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► the first serie there's plenty of reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► to limit to only a 5 devices you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► with a certain amount of memory because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► I think there's some sort of memory CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► overhead for it but I think the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► reasons limited to the 4s is oh here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► the mysterious thing that understands it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► supposedly is a server component Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► but I haven't seen anyone technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► chop apart maybe they like sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► sit there and watch you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► like watch the traffic and see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► actually gets sent right right if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► is a service exclusively gets sent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► this as someone the chat room pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► out that Siri was an app that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► buy before was the system service so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► the fact that is the system service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► means well it's got to be running all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► the time and especially for the seat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► speech synthesis takes up a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► memory like just speaking if you ever go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► to look at like the English Mac and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► English Victoria I don't know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► called Mac and talk anymore but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► actual voice files or the fought wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► files for Alex for example those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► some pretty darn big files and I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that it has to have some portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► those in memory to do speech you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► when I went all right by basically but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► voice control on the iPhone 4 right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► I'm sure that there is a limited amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► of things they can say but I mean it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► talks to you also does the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► that's it I don't know what but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► that Syria is in beta makes me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► anytime anything is in beta you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► be used by a small subset of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► worked out of it you don't want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► say there was no technical limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► you wouldn't put Syria on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► iOS device when it's still in beta if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► you could help but you'd like to be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► by the early adopters in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► possible scenario to get the kinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► and you know how Apple loves to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► backport things even if old older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► hardware could support it it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► perspective this is a new feature it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► not unreasonable to have it only working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► on the new phone the fact that it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► work on an iPad - maybe they think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► not a useful on an iPad - or maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► know that the big test will be whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► the iPad 3 has Siri support I assume it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► will just because by then the kinks will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► be worked out and they'll say hey why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► hardware specs as the iPhone 4s as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► as I can tell same amount of RAM same a5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► system on a chip that seems to be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► reason why Siri wouldn't work other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► the fact that maybe they think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1918">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► weird or silly or not useful with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► iPad so we'll see what they do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► hardware components that only exists in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► definitely never work on the iPhone 4 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► anything like that our first sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► today is EZ DNS and by the way it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► last time that you'll hear from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► this year so I mean act act now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► easy DNS com since 1998 they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► helping people register web addresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► transfer domain set up email forwarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► in a course manage their DNS they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► this all while providing the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► support in the business real people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/1957">TS</a>]
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00:33:56 ◼ ► people in a chat room have mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2036">TS</a>]
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00:34:01 ◼ ► really obvious fit for a future Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2041">TS</a>]
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00:34:22 ◼ ► you could turn on your Apple TV and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► yell out the name of a program and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► would understand you and start playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2065">TS</a>]
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00:34:34 ◼ ► been solved and every solution I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► tried a lot of the better ones involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► some expensive breakable like a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2079">TS</a>]
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00:34:46 ◼ ► have a big expensive LCD control way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► it and you know unless the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► exists solely on your iPad you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► want to be looking up at the TV and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► so boys control the natural fit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► certainly Macs have enough power to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2098">TS</a>]
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00:35:03 ◼ ► applicants the kinks worked out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► and it's out of beta does it appear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 does it appear in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► major version does it appear as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► update to 10/7 what would you use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► like it seems it would be useful for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► Mac's - if you're not if you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2112">TS</a>]
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00:35:15 ◼ ► tell your Macintosh just set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2115">TS</a>]
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00:35:19 ◼ ► a timer and remind you of all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2119">TS</a>]
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00:35:25 ◼ ► be nice to be able to use those the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► speech for that - granted it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► annoying to type out things and click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► things with the mouse and keyboard as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► is to do with a tiny on-screen keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► on an iPhone but it's still pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► annoying and if you could talk to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► would work I think people would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► do that what would be the the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► interface for the Apple TV I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► wouldn't have a microphone and you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► Apple TV put on yeah that's that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► connected the sim for the Xbox that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► something near the television that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► people who are kind of far away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► television control right so the Kinect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2158">TS</a>]
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00:36:06 ◼ ► and the television and you're far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2166">TS</a>]
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00:36:25 ◼ ► some other sensors in there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2185">TS</a>]
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00:36:29 ◼ ► IR sensors in there and a mic plus maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► a camera like Kinect is the first device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2192">TS</a>]
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00:36:42 ◼ ► cameras and multiple microphones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2202">TS</a>]
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00:37:20 ◼ ► that you have can they do airplay onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► the Apple TV pretty well I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► Apple TV but they have one of them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► can adjust like an iPhone because I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► way that this is integrated now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2250">TS</a>]
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00:37:35 ◼ ► that all of a sudden out of the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2255">TS</a>]
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00:37:41 ◼ ► he's seen videos of him on the iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2261">TS</a>]
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00:37:52 ◼ ► or his little baby sister on the big TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2272">TS</a>]
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00:38:00 ◼ ► was just he was jumping up and down he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► was beside himself uh if they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► airplay you would think it wouldn't be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► big deal to capture some a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► audio and send that to the Apple TV that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► gets back to the what the having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► really expensive remote your iPod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► costs two hundred three hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► and using with a $99 device the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► is more expensive more fragile than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► thing and put you want to sell someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► an Apple TV and say here's the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► need you can use it right you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► say here's an Apple TV oh and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► if you have a $300 phone or iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► you get all these other features and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► can talk to it oh I can I talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► $99 one why can't you build that in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► whatever having having some other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► that is also expensive or that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► accessory that not everyone will have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► a problem for the simplicity of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► product I don't I don't think these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► technical barriers are surmountable I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► just not sure Apple thinks is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► be ready for primetime maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► playing with it but you know Apple they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► don't like to release they wouldn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► tack on a couple mics and install Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► on it because it because it will run and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► say hey Apple TV 3 now with Siri and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► should kind of work but if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► just use the remote they would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► do it like they do with the phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► the phone you know the iPhone 4s it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► fast it's got enough memory you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► right into it you don't put the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► on the other side of the room and sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► down on the couch and try to use Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► that's not going to work you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► right there it's an ideal situation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► everyone thinks speech would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► for the Apple TV I'm just not sure Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► will agree for a generation or two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► the of the device and as I said before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► I'm probably going to get an Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► three assuming it still has no fan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► it's nice and everything every what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► really like isn't it's an RF remote or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► Bluetooth remote or something other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► IR because they make this little black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► box that'd be great to hide somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► but you got to have the IR sensor poking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► out what else you got this will all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► still follow up really main topic today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► I thought Oh in our remaining time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► you know about dart dart is this brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► new JavaScript infrastructure platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► library that Google has just announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► and released into the world and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► well I say just an internet time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► like 10 years ago but I think was last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► yeah but been a good chance to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► about it because there were other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► so I currently or in the past Google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► done a couple of weird things to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► their web applications they had have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► in-house toolkit that's also available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► to the public I believe where you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► your applications using Java like actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► Java and they have a compiler that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► translate that to JavaScript so it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► run in the browser and so they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► use all the tools that have been built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► applications in that language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► language they like better and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► translates it to you know compressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► minified obfuscated JavaScript that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► know runs an application I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► something slightly different but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► have they have GWT which is their Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► web toolkit which is this Java thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► they have similar tools that they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► in-house so if you ever look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► source code for Gmail the gmail web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► is just a mess and you're like no human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► wrote that's very similar to Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► it's clear that they're using tools that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► produce this stuff now dart looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► another crack at the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► problem they don't they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► write the application using JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► they want to write it in what they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► is a better language with better tooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► and then in the case of dart this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► internal memo that leaked a while back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► was internal Google memo was saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► what they want is they want Java Script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► to be a better language but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► feel like they can make JavaScript a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► better language because they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► control over the process and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► they think that you can't evolve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► language as it exists today into one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► that they find acceptable so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► they're going to try to do is make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► language and they'll make their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► language compile to JavaScript so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► it will run on other browsers but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► they plan to do is on their browser on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► Google Chrome make dart run natively so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► they're going to try to write their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► applications in dart like not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► of applications that Google users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► encourage other people to write their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► applications in dart and say hey use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► dart it's a better language you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► still target every browser because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► will compile the dart into JavaScript so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► it will run on other browsers but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► eventually I don't think they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► native VM oh yeah but it will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► have a native VM for Dart that'll you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► know be faster lower memory use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► better features all all the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► wanted of JavaScript they can't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► think they can't get so the first one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► internal memo leaks and people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► really know about dart there was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► hubbub about you know you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► fork the web the web is supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► the platform without a vendor it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► open platform we don't want anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► controlling the web even if it's Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► someone we may or may not like but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► know it's not so no vendor is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► to control the web it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► open so we don't like the idea of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► company making a new language and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► we're going to replace JavaScript which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► has been this you know this great boon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► to the web and web applications because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► it's a standards body controls it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► just you know everyone supports it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► you could target target any web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► with it and now Google wants to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► their own thing we don't like that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► don't like you know I'm imagine if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► had done this in the old days so oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► there it goes Apple again making their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► proprietary stuff they can't use open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► standards they have to have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► thing so there was a lot of backlash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► from that and then I think a couple days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► ago they released the specs for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► language and said okay well here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► thing we were talking about while back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► where everyone was getting angry well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► here's the actual language so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► language and start talking about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► isolation ignoring the fact of whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► it's a good idea to try to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► JavaScript or control the web stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► that what was the language like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► language any good I've tried to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► as much as I can about the language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► anything so I can't say too much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► it except to link to other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► opinion so in the show notes they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► one person's analysis of the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► that happens to be a a Perl person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► because I tend to travel in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► circles and I also trust Perl people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► views on languages simply because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► I've said in previous programs I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► especially people involved in Perl six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► are on I don't excite the cutting edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► but they're on sort of the bleeding edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► so what you're saying Perl developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► the cutting-edge of six developers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► particular on the bleeding edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► language design because they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► luxury of being that way because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► don't they don't have a language that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► you Justin use by thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► and it's kind of its kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► research project you know I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► to get in trouble with the projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► people I said there's no implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► there is you can download it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► not complete it's not you know is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► ready for production what does that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► mean I don't even get into that debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► but the point is Perl 6 has lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► interesting advanced features a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► that's not caught up with because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► languages that had to exist in the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► world most of the ones we're using today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► were invented a long long time ago like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► JavaScript is from the 90s so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► that's a relatively young language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► is still decade or more old right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► was created kind of on a whim by a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► languages was a Brendan Eich Brendan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► Eich someone in any chatroom will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► correct me but the creator of JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► was not someone who had who was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► language designer by trade and created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► tons of languages I don't think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► accidental it's like well that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► that got popular shipped in Netscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► Navigator has Java in the name because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► Java was popular back then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► it's this weird tortured history and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► talked about this in the unproduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► programming shows like the languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► that are popular are not popular because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► of the quality of the language is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► popular for reasons that are that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► unrelated to the qualities language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► turn out to be much more important in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► terms of adoption developer tools the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► platform was built on what you could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► this language for accidents of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► right place right time someone the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► room is saying javascript was his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► try and I was Brendan Eich so Google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► not been afraid to make new languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► they made that new go language because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► they thought C was low clunky I'm afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► to shave off a couple the sharp edges to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► see it could be really cool and add some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► concurrency and make a nice 2d program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► and their content to sort of use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► in-house all right so with dart the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► this the thing I linked to from a perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► guy he's comparing it to any time a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► language comes out understandably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► peril six guy or someone familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► like the cutting edge of languages is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► going to say all right so this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► language supported by a big company if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► anybody has the clout to make something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► successful or to at least make a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► environment with good tools and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► stuff it's a big company like Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► so let's see if this language is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and has all the cool stuff that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► that you know for example some cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► stuff from Perl 6 that is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► anywhere in Perl 6 it seems like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► we'll be great at Google behind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► similar language and the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► into other languages to look at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► why people aren't a Haskell or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► functional programming languages or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► closure or you know any of these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► modern languages that have things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► make language nerds excited when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► those people look at dart what they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► is not something that's very exciting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► them the functional programming people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► and the mathematicians don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► because it doesn't push all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► buttons about provable correctness with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► the type system and all sorts of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► mathematical concepts that they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► are essential for a good programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► essential and they and dart comes around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► and says we we didn't do those things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► don't think it's important to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► and the Perl six people look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► say well it's it's class-based and uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► interfaces just like Java and didn't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► all learn that interfaces are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► lame and you know class space oo is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► great and you know Perl systems I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► to use roles everyone knows about roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► and traits and stuff I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► talked about in previous shows they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► much better than classes in interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► then the type system even even the Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► six people come down in that they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► well you got this typing words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► optional typing which on its server this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► looks a lot like what Perl 6 wants to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► what Perl 6 wants to do is have optional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► types for things like have an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► type system but it's optional you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► just say I was just a variable and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► we'll figure it out and the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► of the types in Perl 6 or one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► points one of the parts that I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► most excited about personally about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► types and Pro 6 was that it was supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► to give the language enough information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► to potentially do optimizations so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► you say something is an integer it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► maybe use a native integer for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► internally and not have to treat it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► a big magic variable that could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► number could be a string could be any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► the other things but in dart the types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► basically don't matter it's just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► like a form of documentation the URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► criticizing dark holes at feeble typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► and so instead of weak typing or strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► typing or static typing or dynamic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► think it's feeble typing it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► barely there it's almost just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► form of execution form of execution form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► of documentation and they have a static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► type checker that you can run on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► it doesn't actually call your program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► not to be compiled if you have a type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► just kind of like a helpful aid and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► the dark Google presents art is like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► you can start out with like a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► program where you don't care about types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► and just prototype but then as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► becomes a serious application of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► you add types and then our static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► checker will check that your types are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► correct and so on and so forth but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► the end it's going to compile the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► JavaScript which has no concept of types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► like that uh and it's not you know so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't make anybody happy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► doesn't make the dynamic programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► people happy because even they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► optional types should be more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► apparel sex and it doesn't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► functional programming or statically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► type people happy because because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► not the bondage and discipline that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► want and it's not functionally pure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► provably correct and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► Haskell people and everything on what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► wanted one of the funnier things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► pointed out about it which I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► affect up on my own but he did is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► uh so you've been a programmer for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► while right now I guess I mean started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► when I was a little kid so when you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► to want to do an infinite loop you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► to write an infinite loop that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► going to break out of internally on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► condition all right what what construct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► you use for that an infinite loop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► would use I mean something that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► to check for something and then bust out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► of it you would you say well maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► while right and what would you put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► conditional for the while if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► it to never break out yeah you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► break it all just ruling it well false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► it's usually false depends on language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► so no quiz I'm just well this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► check for the condition it is you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► going to be true anymore and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► bust out of it no but like it so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► going to write an outer loop that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► infinite and then inside it you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► to say if some condition blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► you're going to break out it likes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► yeah so so the loop the loop itself when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► you have to write a loop that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► entered on the first try and unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► there's some flow control tied inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► the loop how will it break out so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► you've said they while people chatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► awhile true or wild one right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► inside you break out of it right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► if you are a programming stickler nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► obsessive-compulsive that would be me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► early on your programming career you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► would have run across people who said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► particular but lots of languages borrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► from C oh don't don't do wild one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► instead do four open paren semicolon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► semicolon closed parens have you seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► right and I'll say that's better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► that you know we don't want magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► numbers in our code we don't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► while one they're right because what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► what if someday one is in true anÃbal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► right which sounds ridiculous but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► you're obsessive and a nerd you say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► you know what for semicolon semicolon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► actually is cleaner because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► require any magic numbers and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► programming languages so for years I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► been doing in in you know I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► even done in Perl but you know in C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► based languages and stuff doing for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► empty for instead of while one just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► because it pushes my anal retentive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► buttons about cleanliness and semantics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► and everything but if anyone challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► me on that I'm going to go what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► mean if one isn't false that's so stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► obviously won't you like yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► not going to change the language so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► one is false while one but then suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► your program breaks because one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► false it's stupid right well in dart the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► only value that that is true in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► boolean sense is the they have a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► keyword true the put literal boolean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► true everything else is false including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► one so if you do if one or while one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► block of that will not execute because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► one is not true right so this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► like a weird vindication of the Indian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► or retentive practice of using an empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► conditional because here's a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► where literally while one you want into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► that loop or if one you will not people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► not execute that conditional which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► just kind of perverse yeah they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► other weird stuff going on in language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► too where they have operator overloading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► but not type coercion overloading so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► can have situations where this is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► article too where you can have if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► equals equals a have that condition be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► false because there's no type coercion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► and and someone overrode that operator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► lots of weird stuff that has it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► do with the fact that it has to compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► the JavaScript I assume but the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► line on dart as a language is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► don't think many people are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► excited about dart the language itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► you said if you just said ignore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► know this come out of nowhere here's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► the language and I call it dark people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► would say this is a cruddy language to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► take some of the things I hate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► Java and some of the things I hate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► C and C++ and pushes them into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► weird Frankenstein beasts and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► understand why you have these crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► typing rules they don't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► to me and I don't like your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► nobody is excited about this language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► the only thing that's excited about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► ended usage like oh so I see you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► going to replace JavaScript with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► and you're going to make better tools to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► this and this could be potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► faster than JavaScript it'll be easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► to write in the JavaScript for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► applications with it because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► these types and all those other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► maybe then you could get excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► it like I think the people are most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► excited about obviously is Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► because they are already writing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► applications using language other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► JavaScript and then targeting JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and they would like to get rid of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► targeting JavaScript part at least on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► their own browsers they want to write in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► a language that is close enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► JavaScript and not be horrendously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► inefficient but eventually will run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► natively in the browser that they own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► does they'll build in a dart VM and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► think the excitement level for Dart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► takes a huge drop as soon as you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► Google because for other people to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► well I'm not excited about then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► look at the big picture I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► excited about Google making the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► language for the web and controlling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► and I'm also not really excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► dark the language that doesn't look that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► interesting and one of the other links I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► have in the show notes is someone did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► hello world in dart which you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► tiger to write a main function and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► print hello world it's all very Jabba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► like that very Java well that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► more like see like Lee's you know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► make a class I don't think that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► Java like but someone compiled that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► JavaScript center so what does hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► will look like when you compile the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► JavaScript in the output I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► is kind of silly because it's the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► case scenario so you've made a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► little snippet of code you know print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► hello world but to target JavaScript the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► dart compiler has to build this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► world up they build the world of dart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► and then execute your little whole world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► in it so the JavaScript it produces is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► boilerplate and stuff is implementing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► the language just for your hello world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► so the overhead for using dart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► targeting JavaScript aside all darts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► JavaScript if you want to target other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► threshold of application size that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► have to pass before it makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► use dart and target JavaScript because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► you're not going to do it on a web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► that previously had you know ten lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► of jQuery and so I ran jQuery is huge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► write but presumably if you use Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► URL so that it might already be cached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► on the client but it seems like dart is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► definitely targeting the kind of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► applications the Google writes big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► applications it's not just like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► web page with something that animates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► it's like Gmail or Google Docs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► so to the extent that there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► companies out there that a red big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► humongous web applications like Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► does and B don't mind writing them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► top of a technology controlled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► someone who could potentially be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► competitor then and C don't mind not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► being excited by the language itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► that is I guess the target market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► Dart so I expect dart not to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► replace JavaScript as the dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► language and probably not to be used by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► many people outside Google and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► that's fine because Google should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► publishing them in the hopes that hey of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► other people like it and maybe it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► help them make them better so and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► all for a replacement for JavaScript I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► just not excited about this replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► for JavaScript and I'm not excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► the way Google's seen the googles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► apparent motivation and goals for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► replacing javascript in this way like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► seems like they're using it to wrest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► control if you if you read that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► memo about dart that's also linked from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► one of the links in the show notes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► dart you can see it's kind of shady it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► like how can we take control of the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► sort of through a side door by replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► JavaScript and not participating in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► process and we just wanted your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► thing and then seed it out to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► because now we control the browser and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► we can build this languages into if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► make it really fast and everyone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► just have to use it because it'll be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► much better on it yeah so not excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► about Dart not good not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► using it anytime soon I don't know might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► be fun to play with but I have dim hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► for it I'm not the most thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► disappointed if dart was a really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► language then it could be like yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► kind of evil looks like they're forking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► the web and blah blah but wow what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► cool language you'd be excited about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► from that perspective right it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► not exciting to me it seems it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► like someone would only be exciting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► people who really love Java and C++ and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► Google has tons of people who love Java [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► and C++ but that's not me okay and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► don't have anything else that's short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► enough to fit we are at the 1 hour mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► here unless you have any anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► you want to bring up I do a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► sponsor should do them that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► mmm you know you know this ARS technica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► Ridge coverage either way works of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► iPhone 4s event but they they went down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► like so many other places went down did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► I did I had all the live streams open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► yeah they had some problems I forgot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► where they were using this year but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► was a different provider than last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► they they keep changing providers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► nothing seems to help I'll tell you who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► Rackspace cloud that's who live gadget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► comm used and they did not go down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► most people they already know how simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► the Rackspace cloud is to use to host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► their websites and applications and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► people always come back to what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► always talk about is a fanatical support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► and now you can you can see this in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► time at the the live doc gadget comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► blog stayed up and in my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► is that they they didn't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► anything crazy to to make that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► they they just did whatever it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► they they normally do and the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► responded the thing stayed up and kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► running it's pretty incredible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► pretty cool when you think about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► if you have a site that doesn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► lot of traffic put it there and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► date that it does guess what you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► survive you'll be just fine you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► have to freak out you won't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► worry I know a lot of app developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► that run database backends that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► they release a brand-new version for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► 5 the new phones come out all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► sudden they have tons and tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► of new year users their service goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► down and they freak out about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► they have to go and spin up new servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► and configure things and pull their hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► if they'd hosted it on the Rackspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► cloud they wouldn't have that problem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► now you can go to Rackspace dot-com / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► 5x5 and you can learn all about the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► about this as special page there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► for you guys and you'll go there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► will support the show and maybe you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► sign up and try on something cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► Rackspace comm / 5x5 great place to out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► stuff you know speaking of server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► stuff this brings up another point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► Siri this is a point that I made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► point I think it was a unofficial Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► weblog no that wasn't it maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► they tsimko and remember I saw this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► just have the notes here I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I was talking about Syrian silk so silk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► was that Amazon thing that we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► about where your your Amazon fire tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► will connect to Amazon servers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► Amazon service will connect to the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► for you through a much larger connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► and so your device will only have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► have one connection and two Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► servers and all the traffic go over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► instead of having to make multiple TCP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► connections and bring them up and tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► them down do all sorts of stuff over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► cell number they will just make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► efficient connection over the cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► network and go through this proxy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► will compress things for you and Inter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► leave all the traffic and just generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► provide a nicer web experience as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► in between so that was an example of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► so Amazon is doing that an Amazon is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► big server-side company Amazon stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► infrastructure for the need to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► amazon.com to sell stuff and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► have branched out in recent years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► providing web services where this s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► storage service and ec2 Elastic Compute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► cloud we in provision computing hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► dynamically as your load increases sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3658">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► of like over a spate so that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► model so Amazon is a server-side company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► that is now getting into the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► business with the Kindles with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► the fire and stuff like that and silk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► again this is hard to talk about without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► component of not Silk Seri hard talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► about without knowing what the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► component of Syria is but Apple is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► device company that certainly with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► iCloud and even a little bit of Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► seems to be getting into the server side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► business so those two Amazon and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► seem to be on a collision course in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► respect where it used to be Amazon was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► content to be server-side and Apple made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► devices and everyone was happy but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► both people are moving heavily into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► their the opposing companies stronghold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► so we'll see who does better is Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► business then Apple is entering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► cloud business we should talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► iCloud a little bit speaking of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► stuff yeah I was talking about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► Twitter a while back what reports the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► iCloud bunch going to be like do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► think it's going to be successful the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► people think it's going to be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► mobile nice scale disasters is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► going to work or is everything going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► you've got iOS 5 on your devices now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► right yes sir and did you sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► iCloud and do all that stuff yes sir and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► how so how what grade would you give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► am i grading how it worked and what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► Sinai process was like or am i am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► what I think of the feature said I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► you know not the features that ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► the feature said just say like there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► a given feature set that Apple said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► is what it's supposed to do how well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► it perform where the server's down where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► they slow were you not able to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► just like server side component of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► reliability not talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► everything's been perfect uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► everything that I've uh everything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► tried work just fine servers were fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► um everything just everything works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► works the way you wanted to work I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► no no problems even even downloading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► downloading the updates and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► here free I understand for you was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► fast but here it was very very fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► download and the install worked just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► fine the phones did you know I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► I've actually had trouble updating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► phone not bad trouble but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► it would it would have a failed install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► that what you'd need to reboot it and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► you know try again none of that none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► that this time everything just worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► and it synced everything up really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► really well it handled the merging of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► the different you know different address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► books in different places has worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► really well everything was just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and then you download you download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► content you buy in one place it shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► in the other place I've got we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► iMac that is dedicated just just for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► to sync up devices with and it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► music and video library on it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► all all we do with it and that way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► always available and the Apple TVs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► everything else can get to it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► just sort of sits there and is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► media machine and uh you know it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► because it it automatically gets like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► bought as a test I bought something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► the on with my iPhone there was a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► or something I can't remember what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► was maybe maybe even some of the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► and they're just they just later on they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► just showed up on the machine is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► works works beautifully perfect no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► problems I was pretty desperate to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► iOS 5 on my device instantly because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► stop connecting them with the USB cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► to a computer with iTunes because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► had a lot of problems with syncing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► mentioned like sometimes you even try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► update the OS it fails and you got to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► it again well alright iPad has had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► thing where you plug it in and as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► as you plug it in immediately says all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► right backing up and then it sits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► that backing up phase like forever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► way longer than you think it should on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► step one of five backing up and it sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► there so if you look at the console log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► I was seeing all these USB MUX error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► messages and CF network negative one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► rate all sorts of scary looking error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► terminate and you're like obviously to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► update the next OS you have to connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► it to our just like this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► the last time that I connect this iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► to this computer prism sick of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► it shouldn't take this long I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► what it's doing it seems to be having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► some sort of problem I don't and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► worst thing is if you give up and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► yank it out and disconnect it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► forever it's like I can't sync because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► the sync process is already going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► if you restart your computer doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► help because it's like a process on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► iPads you got a like hard reset the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► and let it reboot and then reboot your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► computer and then try it again and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► of decide how long you're going to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► so I really wanted to get away from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► because connecting through USB has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► different devices but our iPad has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► the worst for some unknown reason so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► wanted to get iCloud on there the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► problem I added this is confidence a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► launch day thing but like yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► Downloads are really slow and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► because my connections like when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► everything was going so like maybe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► ASPI is having a problem so I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► the speed test websites and my speed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► just it would say 30 megabits down no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► problem here I'm 20 something up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► connection is fine while the download is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► going it was trickling along so it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► four and a half hours to like download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► all the updates but then once the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► updates were downloaded as soon as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► plug the iPad in it started to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► the iPad instead of trying to back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► first or maybe was using a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► backer there was like a different dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► box it was like the modal dialog box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► that pops up in front of iTunes I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► I don't know I don't want to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► iTunes anymore but it did eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► updated and signed in with our iCloud ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► that whole business about what the which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► Apple IDs you can use for which things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► kind of confusing but I'm also kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► glad that they made it as flexible as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► is because we have a shared Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► that we use for all our purchases so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► when I buy something she can use on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► devices and so on but for iCloud you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► really want to have separate things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► each person otherwise her contacts will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► sing with mine and all the other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► right so you can have a separate Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► ID that you use to buy apps and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► go to the store preferences enter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► that can be different than the Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► that you use I don't know what you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► like your device Apple ID the one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► use to sort of initialize the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► that's that just you that's you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► your your entity is that app ID but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► the story can still use another one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► for the things that I've done so far she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► doesn't use iCloud mail but she does we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► everything I turn it on the backup thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► or since I put that slider you know use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► iCloud for backups it immediately says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► there's not enough room would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► to buy more store to another prompt in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► store but instant yeah because you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► five gigs free and she had more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► that I looked at what it was it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► six gigs of magazines it's nice you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► just turn those off on a per app basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► like don't back up the magazine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► button do those stuff right so I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► pretty good experience the Cybermen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► really slowed downloads which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► not that was like a one-day one timely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► it's like it's like it's there the CDN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► was having problems I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► could have just been a bandwidth thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► you know whatever that's not really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► iCloud service as much as their usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► software update download things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► their pipes could have been filled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► network pipes could have been filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► with all the people updating but using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► the service I didn't really get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► error messages it wasn't slow I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► couple of things to see if it was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► what it's supposed to be doing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► seemed like it was I was never prompted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► to resolve any sync conflicts it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► duplicate all the contacts so I pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► much give it a thumbs up so I asked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► Twitter I think I mentioned on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► the next day that you know that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► pretty well like it's not not a MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► type disaster and then immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► people replied to me and said yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► I guess you're not using the mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► because the mail thing isn't working so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► apparently during the day yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► people couldn't connect to their to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► their mail they would reject their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► some people had debugged further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► said that a particular particular IMAP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► server Apple's IMAP server wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► responding and that a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► them at some big long named Apple comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► so I would give it I don't know how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► grade it certainly it's not a MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► level disaster I'd say it probably went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► as smoothly as could be expected given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► palpable apples path history like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► there were zero problems that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► been amazed you expect some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► like that and there were but they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► to be transient and relatively minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► there's still people saying that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4138">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► can't convert their MobileMe ID to a to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► an iCloud account because that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► overwhelming demand or whatever I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► server-side problem they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► deal with so there are bumps but I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► it a pretty good grade so far I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► remain cautiously optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► iCloud oh the money I'll talk about - is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► the Apple ID situation because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► people may be confused by this I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► put this in the show notes there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► couple of good articles in Macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► explaining what the deal is maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► just us maybe no one else has multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► Apple IDs but I have multiple Apple IDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► and my wife has multiple Apple IDs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► it gets confusing the the only dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► situation have to worry about is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► have mobile me and you use mobile me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► syncing like you sync your keychains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► Yojimbo to do mobile me syncing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► stuff like that do not convert that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► mobile me ID to an iCloud ID at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► until you're sure that every app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► you use is is working and that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► need to pass those key chains and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► around right so you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► giving up the ability to do as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► understanding like I've tried to read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► on this or whatever my understanding is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► if I was to convert my mobile me Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► ID to iCloud my your Jimbo items would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► not be able to sync between computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► and right now that doesn't mean they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► be blown away or they'd be deleted or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► anything it just means the syncing part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► would go away right and as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► complain about mold me I do use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► syncing I use the keychain syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► between machines I use the your Jimbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► syncing between machines and I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► flexibility like for example i sync my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► keychain between all my home max but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► sync my your Jimbo between all my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► Max and my work Mac just so I can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► that information with me there are work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► there were workarounds for this yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► you can put it in Dropbox and also to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► other things but the Yojimbo developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► for example are going to update for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► iCloud they're just not done with it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► so their deadline is whatever it is June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► MobileMe will be shut off for good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► application that uses MobileMe syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► you have to hope that the developer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► that application releases a new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► that uses iCloud before that dates then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► you can switch it over right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► other thing you can do is what I may end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► up doing which is just make yourself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► new Apple ID and use that as your new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► I actually have a new iCloud ID that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► use when I was testing out cloud for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► line review I actually ended up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► talking about iCloud in the line review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► just because it was too young and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► didn't really know what it was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► like it's good thing I didn't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► it because all the features that I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► in the lion Vedas it's very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► now the interface is very different to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► how you do stuff in the head and decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► on all the rules with the Apple IDs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► stuff there are rumors about merging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► Apple IDs which you still can't do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► anyway the safest thing is probably make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► yourself a new Apple ID you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► anything you want my wife's Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► doesn't use a me comm email address you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► can use anything for your Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► either I actually have Apple IDs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► the old days when they didn't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► to be email addresses which causes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► problems but make yourself a new Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► ID make it you know blah blah blah me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► calm you can get it for free and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► that and if you have your MobileMe ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► just keep that one if you're old you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► know whatever at matcom address or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► whatever that Apple ID was so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► confusing but it is also flexible they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► don't the worst thing the only thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► can do really badly is to rush into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► and just say I'm just going to convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► everything died cloud and then be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► surprised by the results so I will add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► this a great Macworld article that tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► to explain all the different apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► options and things you can do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► blood DS I'll put that in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► now I have a question for you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► somewhat related to this so as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► I have an iPhone 4 and the 4 I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► for us any second now that could be do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► you do you recommend treating these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► essentially as like should I treat this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► as an entirely new device or should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► restore it from a backup of my existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► iPhone 4 in other words when I start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► using this thing I can I can sign in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► with my iCloud account no problem and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► theory it's a new device but it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► start it should pull in everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► I might need from iCloud that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► great but you know should I use it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► standalone device and essentially leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► the four sitting there as its own device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► or separate or should I restore the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► one from a backup which would bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► along all of the pictures and video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► everything else that I've got going yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► that's kind of weird like with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► the photo stream of stuff you know photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► stream only works for stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► you have photo stream enabled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► installed so like you said all all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► your pictures that are on your iPhone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► if you were to get your 4s and turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► on and turn on iCloud you expect all its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► going to sync everything but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► going to sync my understanding at Lisa's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► pictures that were taken on your iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► 4 before you upgraded iOS 5 right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► not I'm not sure that answer by think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► think that's right but even even putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► that aside you know I mean I've what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► what if I had a chat where somebody said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► oh call me at this number today at 2:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► p.m. and the only place that I have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► is in one of the chats that I would need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► to go back to to look to call out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► because that the application data that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► also confusing to me too like that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► if you backup the iCloud you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► iPhone 4 backing up the iCloud or now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► yes and did you pay for the extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► storage there you actually fit it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► need it that's confusing to me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► because I know I have tons of stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► like my ipod touch for example you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► 20 gigs of music but that music is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► getting backed up to the iCloud backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► because I didn't purchase it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► iTunes music store hmm right so I'm wary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► of iCloud backup because I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► what its backing up right obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► backing up my music so what if my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► burns down I could just get a new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► and enter my cloud ID and all my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► will be there well my music wall because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► it burned down with my house right yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► I'm looking at iCloud and I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► everything turned on except right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► the photo stream everything else is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► turned on and when I go to storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► backup it says that I'm I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► five gigs and I have 820 Meg's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► so I'm close so now you mentioned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► the phone number like say you have it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► a chat session from a verbs chat log and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► you wanted to go find it like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► in your contacts where you're saying but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► your contacts will sync I'm say or let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► say that I'm meeting somebody from lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► and they said here's the address of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► place that we're going and I only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► that in an iMessage and it's only on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► this phone that's not that's not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► backed up right I'd well I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► assumed application data is backed up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► I'm going to go back to the verbs thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► so you're using verbs and you've got I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► on transcripts I don't even know verbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► as I am transcripts although I do own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► verbs right use that much but that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► be application data that's associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► with that thing so when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► sync your thing and it puts verbs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► your new phone I assume you'd also put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► the contents of the little buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► documents folder inside the verbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► you're new on your new phone as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► like I'm assuming it's bringing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► application data as a whole the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► that I actually wanted to talk about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► I'll let Marco do it in his show did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► read Marco is post about application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► data versus caches and all that stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► did yeah the cleaning behavior of of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► 5 yeah so I'm gonna leave that damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► because that's this thing that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► great article and you should definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► talk about that and centers and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► related to this because he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4558">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► about what things get backed up more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► things not well I assume the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► are user created application data also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► get sent to your other device if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► take a new iPhone out of the box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► turn it on and sync it with iCloud so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► you're saying that if I have two iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► and I'll know the answer to this later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► today but you're saying if I have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► iPhones and I sync both of them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► iCloud that even something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► previous chat or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► will will get synced if the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► has been built that way you're saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► will get synced yeah and any any user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► created content it's gonna definitely be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► in a folder it's definitely getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► backed up in your other phone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► assume it will be copy to your new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► if it isn't that's kind of I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► trust like oh if I drop my phone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► ocean when I get a new phone I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► enter my iCloud ID and all my stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► back well we know that's not true for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► musically you didn't buy any iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► Music Store and videos that you ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► yourself and put it on there and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► like that but is it also not true for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► even application data like is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► going to install the verbs application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► from the app store and I'll just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► completely clean and empty I assume it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► going to sync the stuff from iCloud so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► that when you get your 4s I would try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► that experiment like find some piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► data or create a piece of data like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► know create a sticky note wellmaybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► notes don't camp is there specially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► treated but pick some third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► application and make something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► is user-generated content like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► note or I don't know I can't think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► component trying to think of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► where you know there's no server side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► component doing this stuff for you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► make some data in the application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► then when you get you for a sign in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► your ID and see if it shows up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► that'll be interesting experiment as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► whether you whether you should you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► after you run this experiment whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► you should actually hook it up to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► at iTunes and do a restore from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► other one that's what I do just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► I want all my stuff you and all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► stuff yeah I want everything there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► I'm perfectly happy to do that how'd it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► make a big giant mess and then spend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► know 15 20 minutes cleaning up Ark I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► don't need that application let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► you know ios5 actually was pretty nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► applications it added what newsstand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► reminders out it didn't shift all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► icons over by three which would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► driven me crazy it just made like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► screen and here these lonely lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► three icons on a new page - and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► rest of my pages were left pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► so I'm come all in favor but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► require some cleanup after the fact so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► that's what I would do if I was you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► you on the other end are the I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► clean install I want it to be custom I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► want it to be stocked just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► minimal stuff on that's how you are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► your Mac so you may be inclined to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► that on your phone - just to get it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► get a fresh start that's kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► I'm thinking like mainly what I have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► this phone that I would that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► want somewhere else to be honest it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► it's just the the contact data you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► it really isn't anything beyond that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► in the pictures and stuff I've got those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► all loaded off but I'm bet you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► I'm bad about you probably don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► this problem because you don't own you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► don't own an iOS device is all take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► pictures and videos and stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► I'll offload them to the computer but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► typically don't always delete them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► the phone so then eventually a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► like some half blurry picture of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► know my kid running through the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► from six months ago that I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► deleted and just never got around to I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► sure you don't have that problem no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► don't well all we have is the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► with the crappy camera so we try not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► take pictures with the hat because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► they're so low quality so yeah we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► we don't end up with stuff building up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► on the phone although we should take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► video with it with the video and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► iPod Touches it's good enough for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► web video which is all we really use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► for but yeah that's the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► photostream - like oops so you are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► to be taking pictures with your forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► everything like that and photo stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► will be taking those pictures at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► and magically syncing them so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► appear in iPhoto um but I'm not sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► the lack of flexibility the apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► lack of flexibility will annoy you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► complaining today about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► they take screenshots on their iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► either because it's part of their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► that takes screenshots of a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► app they're reviewing or something into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► technology reviewers and writers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4798">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► stuff and that stuff shows up in iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► I want you know because you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► picture take the screenshot it shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► in your photos folder on your phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► photo streams IPPs it over to iPhoto and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► you don't really want the screenshots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► some app you're reviewing to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► iPhoto you gotta like delete them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► stuff and then it's like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► is it keep a thousand photos or 30 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► with the photos whichever comes first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► and it will trim that off on your iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► device I think it'll work okay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► general case but for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► picky about what exists where I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► know make it annoying you you try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► tell me after the first month of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► taking pictures of your kids and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► if this is better worse or the same than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► your old method of just like leaving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► the phone and forgetting into there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► occasionally plugging it and syncing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► and stuff like that somebody on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► just said to me that eat indeed I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► paraphrasing indeed odd you know back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► chats and other things like that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► backed up and restored and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► there on the person's iPhone for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► they're on the person's 4s that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► what we're talking about actually well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► well that's a good question I saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► comment like that to you I of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► that I can tell you that that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► because I've done that before all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► videos like so obviously that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► when you plug it into iTunes right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► what yeah what are your is I cloud-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► restore right an iCloud based restore or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► just I cloud-based syncing of data like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► and in a way I might I might not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► that I might not want and we'll we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► talked about verbs but I'll just pick an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► iMessage I might not want every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► iMessage chat that I've had with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► know 10 different people to show up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► every iOS device that I don't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► do you do I I don't know someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► mentioned the chatroom that apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► you can't delete photos from photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► stream so be careful with the whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► it is you may be doing with your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► whereas it says where does it send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► it sends them up to iCloud and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► get them on your local copy of iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► right right right okay you're saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► new version you're saying in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► situation where you take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► something and you look at the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► and you're like oh I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► picture well guess what it's forever in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► iCloud and forever in this iPhoto until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► you delete it is that what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► or someone in the chat room saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► you can't delete pictures and photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► my guess would be if I was a photo that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► I didn't want I would delete it off my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► phone and I would delete it off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► iPhoto and then I would be surprised if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► if I deleted off all of my devices if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► it's still like if I turned on a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► device suddenly that picture shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► there even though I had deleted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► successfully deleted it on all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► devices that's why I talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► lack of flexibility that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► repository of data and this is Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► whole model apples model is not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► Google model.i apples apples model is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► application centric it's not server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► centric so there's no web interface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► photostream where you say this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► manipulate it here and then devices pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► waypoint it's like a junction station or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► a conduit it's not a thing in itself so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► as far as I know there is no like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► here's the native way to look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► photos that are in photo scream and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► devices will will push it to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► devices or there pull them down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► in those things but this is the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► repositories if you want to delete it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► delete it here and then it will either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► still be on your devices and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► automatically get deleted off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► devices so it's weird when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► multiple devices like if I delete that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► photo from iPhoto what I do I want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► to be deleted from my phone like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► does the user expectation theirs is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► users mental model versus the model that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► Apple has made here some users would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► ah well I was deleting it because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► an embarrassing picture and because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► mental intent was that well obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► want this deleted it's an embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► picture I can't believe it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► leading from my phone the second I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► but on the other hand someone will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► saying I want this picture on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► but I don't really want it in my iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► library right because I just use it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► wallpaper so when I deleted an iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► and then it went delete it on my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► didn't want that right so business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► there's plausible scenarios for users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► being upset no matter what Apple does in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5038">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► this situation and there's no like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► canonical middleman interface like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► me just look at what's in the conduit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► and say I want to eradicate this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► history delete it from the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► and then delete it from the devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► now I know that picture is nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► because I can look in this magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► iCloud and say it's not in the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► it's not on my iPhone and it's not on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► on my Mac so when I buy a new iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► I sure as heck don't expect it to appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► there when I enter my iCloud input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► because where did it come from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► doesn't exist anywhere but we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► ability as far as I know to inspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► the constants of iCloud directly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► all viewed through applications even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► it's just a web application at iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► you're still kind of viewing it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► the lens of an application there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► one canonical application so again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► think this this will probably do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► people want in the common case but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► they're easily imaginable scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► where no matter what it does it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► to do something that's unexpected or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► upsetting to someone and more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► understanding of how it works would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► great here especially for pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► stuff that can be embarrassing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► more explanation required yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► we'll just use it for a while and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► used to it when you get used to anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► they're the first two or three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► that happens you figure out you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► modifying your mental model to match how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► the thing actually works and I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► the common case people are just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► thrilled when a picture shows up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► multiple places like you know take I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► take a pictures and it's automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► on my Mac and I bought a new device my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► pictures were there that's that's 90% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► you've already won at that point people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► just amazed when stuff works and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► details about deleting an embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► picture and stuff I think are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► only things that people like us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► thinking about at this point it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► nice to have and I think Apple will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► to eventually address it but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► first version just having your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► sync on all your devices and not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► to plug into iTunes will be nice but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► will have some follow-up on this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► sure next week or you will because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► nothing anyone taking pictures of my iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► devices pee we can talk about it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► I'll try all these things out or I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► try some of them out and if you are if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► you have specific things you want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► try to email me or chat me and I'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► them out we can talk about it next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► and in the meantime if you'd like to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► can hear previous episodes of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5169">TS</a>]
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01:26:23 ◼ ► on Twitter I'm not doing it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► no I spelled it you did you spelled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5185">TS</a>]
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01:26:30 ◼ ► okay maybe you want to break it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► it's okay going I'm damned Benjamin on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► Twitter and this is hypercritical thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► thanks for the ratings in iTunes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► should we say sponsors easy DNS comm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipn1_SjY/5205">TS</a>]
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