00:00:04 ◼ ► a weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► what is wrong in the world of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/6">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► nothing is so perfect that it can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► complained about by the host of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► show john siracusa I'm the co-host dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/14">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► today is October 7th 2011 and we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/20">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► like to briefly mention our sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► before we tell you more about them later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/26">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► the first sponsor is MailChimp comm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► squarespace.com mu and we will tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► more about them later hi John how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/35">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► sad week it is sad very sad week yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► think that's what we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► about yeah because even before follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► breaking the format probably was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► occasion to break with the format yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► because the cuz the follow-up is tends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► to be kind of flip and this is not flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/58">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► so right so this first everybody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/59">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► everybody who's listening to this live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► or with in recent days knows that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Wednesday Steve Jobs passed away ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► but in case somebody's listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► down the road they may not know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/75">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► mentioning that and we actually got did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► a little 5x5 special we're different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► people some of them hosts some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► just friends the network we did a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► a little I guess you call to thank you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► tribute and John you didn't you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► participate in that and you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► wanted to talk about it here today so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/101">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► knew this was going to be a heavy heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► show I tried to participate I recorded a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff first I tried just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► reading stuff that I had written ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/109">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► of time and then I tried uh just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► extemporaneously and it and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► listened to it I actually edited some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► food see if although I can edit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/118">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► into shape but just never I'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► good at talking to nobody I guess it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► it's a skill I don't have but Natalia so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/123">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► we did a show about stay like it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► a whole show about Steve Jobs I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► I was just trying to look up the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/134">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► number but I remember what it was but do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► you remember that one yeah I do I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► trying to think about when that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► that actually was well we'll find it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► put it in the show notes but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► when he retired and I think I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► whole show on it just because as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► in that show I didn't know Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► the man I just knew Steve Jobs the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► of Apple was that was that the next big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/157">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► move could that have been it the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► of Apple without Steve Jobs which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► that sounds that's a choice to era I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► put them to show not all right uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► since I did I only knew the CEO when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► that's like him disappearing from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► life because the personal Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► corporate Steve Jobs was so we talked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► lot about the corporate Steve Jobs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► that show and the future of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► what he did at Apple and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► and I said at the time that I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/186">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► was really sad and I remember I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► said that I wanted to write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► because when he retired everyone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► writing stuff like you know the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► similar things that you're seeing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/195">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► people want to write like what he meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► to the company and his legacy and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/198">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► everything I could think of to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► sounded like a eulogy but he wasn't dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► so it was kind of inappropriate right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► I'd be writing something like oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► know as if he's gone but he's not gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► and we didn't know how long he would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► around right like so I couldn't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► something that sounded like a eulogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► then having lived for another five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► and so I figured well I'll do that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► that the quote unquote real journalists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► do is you write a eulogy or the obituary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► ahead of time and so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► actually when you're saying you wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► you wrote your pieces just put out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► arstechnica no because I that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► said I maybe I should do that but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► didn't I didn't bring myself to do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► couldn't I a couple times I sat down I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► like I'm gonna write that Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► sounded like you will Jose have it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► reserve I'll have it ready but I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► just couldn't do it I don't know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► I just wasn't motivated to do it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► retirement thing had come and gone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► read a whole bunch of stuff that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► people did and that always demotivates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► me reading what other people do I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► yeah they said everything I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► say anyway I really have nothing to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/258">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► so when the you know on the news that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/259">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► had died came along I think I saw it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► Twitter first but it was pretty instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► blanketing all possible media that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► have access to right as you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► all my news feeds email Twitter feeds I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► am everything then I had to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► scramble to write something but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► at that point I felt like it was easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► and as had been in the this should the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► next big move show I thought that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► resigned myself to him being gone when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► wrote this thing for Macworld ages ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► there was like maybe even years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► then again when he retired like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► there was more there just emotional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► sad and I was like all right I'll I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► retirement I'm like right that's it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► all it's out of my system I've I've come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► to terms with it but then nobody died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► apparently I had not come to terms with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► it because it was just like it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► was like even worse is every time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► some event has happened it's been even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► worse thankfully this is the last one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/314">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► but it was just it was really bad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► don't know how you felt about it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► was surprised by how much it affected me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► especially since like well somewhat if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► he's still alive but he's not at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► company but I guess I guess the did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► thing about it was that even if he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► the CEO of Apple if he's still around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► then you could always be like when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► does something like boy I wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► Steve thinks of this and maybe someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► will call him and get and get a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► anniversary ceremonies like you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► you always want to know what does Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/341">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► Jobs think of this even if he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► CEO or the company's still a person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► the world and is still famous and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► maybe he'd be doing more press now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► he was retired you know maybe he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/349">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► not feel as constrained about it yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► anyway I wrote something for ours it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► fairly short by my standards and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► was trying to figure out both times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► I was trying to figure what to write you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► don't good thing I know one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/366">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► could think of was that it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► write anything about Steve Jobs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/369">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► corporate legacy his accomplishments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► um you need to be you know like Walter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► Isaacson who's writing the authorized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► biography that's going to be a thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/383">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► book I imagine or the big articles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► The New York Times or Time magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► special issue or whatever that's too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► I'm not it's too big for me to address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► so I figured the only way I could talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► about the topic was to make it to go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► possible that's what I did I wrote about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► my personal yeah Steve Jobs effect in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► personal life which which is what a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► of people did online they didn't a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► people try to reward generalities about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► what Steve Jobs meant to the industry or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► they ended on that point or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► most people said here's what Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► meant to me personally and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► think has been touching to read on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► web at all these little personal stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► affected the lives of so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► people friend the biggest obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► ones who were like I'm a developer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► write Apple software everything I do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► my professional life and my livelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► wouldn't exist if Steve Jobs hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► started Apple so those people have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the most of it even even the people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► me who are kind of tangentially touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► like it's not it's not our livelihood so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► personal way so that that's what I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/444">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► in my in the thing at ours I'll put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► link in the show notes and people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► read it these are gone it's really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► piece I got a lot of compliments on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► and I I considered trying to put links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► to all the other great things that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► read but as I started collecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► there's not a single person whose blog I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► read or whose site I go on frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► who doesn't have something up about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► Steve Jobs probably multiple ones so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► don't think you're hurting for things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► read on the web about the this topic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► there's a lot of good ones out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► know what I tried to do when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► recording stuff last night it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► maybe I'll try just summarizing what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► wrote about that didn't work that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► but I'm actually gonna take another run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► I did so one of the problems I have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/494">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► that thing was I was trying to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/500">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► with a title and I did in my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► scratch file I just called it Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► and it was great in the days when I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► my little staff blog on our stack nigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► and then the fat bit section that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► the name of my little corner of the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► and I could use those super obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► titles you know we're just Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► right but it was like last year maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► the year before that ours changes site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► design so that everything shows up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► the front page you know right at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► section it originates from it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/527">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► like a big linear stream of articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/528">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► which is great as a reader of the site I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► but as a writer on the site who often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► wants to write obscure weird things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► there's pressure to have something show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► up on the homepage of our second to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► with a headline that makes sense because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► the last thing you want is millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► people clicking through on it and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► this is not what I thought it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► to be or whatever so I had to obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► dumb down but clarify it make less nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► the title and I called it Steve Jobs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► personal remembrance or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/558">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► that just because as if you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► to read someone's personal account of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► what Steve Jobs meant to then don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► click through we just called Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► is like what what is this everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► unique like that it could be a 17 page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► biography it could could be anything if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► you have like an individual blog like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► Gruber can get away with the title that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► just says Steve Jobs because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► would understand in context what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► but the front page of our stack they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► have stories about gaming about law or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► science and lots of other stuff so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► have to sort of point out what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► to be but another title I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► of like when I was trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► titles I got to make this more clear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► like something like my two lessons from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► Steve Jobs which I definitely didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► want to do because I did not want anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► to think this was going to be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► those top five best ways to supercharge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► your X Y you know those things with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► lists yeah those are bad and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► but really I had two things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► wanted to talk about and the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► was my childhood remembrance of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► Steve Jobs it how Steve Jobs influenced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► my coming-of-age sort of and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► mentioned that had this picture on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► magazine that had the Macintosh team on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► it and it was basically the realization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► that a small group of really smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► dedicated people can do some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► thing and change the world and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► before that bit the idea that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► was a changeable place that when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► a little kid you think like well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► the world and this is what it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/636">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► it's always been this way and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► they tell you about history and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► sailing ships and you're like yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► this is you know this is the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► then the Mac came out and was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► remember before the Mac what computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► were like and how you now you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► the Mac is like and it's clear this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► going to change the world and it some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► people actually made this thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► there wasn't a Mac they came up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► idea and they created it and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► people could fit in this little picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► that I had on my wall so I'd cut it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/660">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► I taped that up there and stayed there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► and so that was my childhood realization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► that uh you know particularly engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► nerds my kind of people the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► are as relating to could change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► world and I would just stare at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► picture of our ages now I hadn't looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► at that picture probably maybe probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► since like my my room got cleaned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► when I left for college and my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► converted into a spare bedroom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► removed all the millions of posters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► comics and other things I had taped to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► my wall with scotch tape which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► cursed me for us they had to scrape all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► everything but when I look at the I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► going to try to pull up the web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/699">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► when I look at this web page now I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► the picture at the very top of the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► page I actually scanned it out of a mag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► out of the magazine that it came in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► is from a Macworld issue number one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► premiere of Macworld which was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► released with the original back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► have multiple copies of it and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► the copies I sacrificed to cut out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► picture and that sort of died as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► faded on my wall and hang wrinkled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► nothingness but the other one is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► in the magazine so I put my magazine on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► the scanner and scanned it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► the picture up there and I look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/724">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► picture it's just amazing the feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► that it triggers inside me just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► that image is burned on my brain that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► had realized it until I looked at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/734">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► again like if you were trying to program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► something you could use one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► pictures I did I didn't realize that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► had such deep hooks and I stared I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/742">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► like what is it about that picture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► keep looking back in it and it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► it was on my wall for my entire time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► imprinted on me uh but anyway that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► my my lesson number one you know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► growing up and it's not particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► profound or interesting everybody when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► you're kid you learn all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► about life and about the way it works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/763">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► its only it's only important to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► because this was the thing that taught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► you that lesson when you were growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► and the grand scheme of things adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► will it say it intellectually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► understand that yes people can invent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► things and change the world but then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► larger point ahead and the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► this is what I was trying to get it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► the big with the big point I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► make up in my story small but my my big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► thing was like what is it about Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/783">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► what is his most the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► thing that he's done and I in true to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► form I always want to think of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► that other people aren't thinking else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/795">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► I'm not going to say oh you know he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/796">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► accessible to people or someone and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► forth I think maybe this is not the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► important thing that he did but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► it's the most profound I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► the most unique because lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► have made amazing products in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► genres not in technology but you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► other in other areas or in medicine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► so certainly jobs is the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► technology field and doing that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► other people have done great things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► that in other fields but the unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► thing that I think Jobs did across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► fields was he proved that the grim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► Dilbert future that we all know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► yeah doesn't have to be a reality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► doesn't have to be that way and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► adult life this is the first time I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► think of that this happened because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► think of all other large organizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► or large groups of people that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► dealt with from the government to big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► universities to working in corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► America or even something like science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► you know they say for scientists that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► you should do that best work before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► they're like 30 years old I forget how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► old is Tyne was when he did all of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► work on relatively in everything but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► was shockingly young and certainly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► athletes just simply because they age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► they you know they're their best years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► or when they're younger and same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► the company does some amazing thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► guys in a garage or whatever and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► grows like gangbusters then it gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► be a big company and it's like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/884">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► expect that from any them anymore and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► horrible horrible place to work and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► horrible company to deal with and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► get filled with middle middle managers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► and employees whose motivation no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► aligns in any way with the supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► mission of the corporation I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► how much you've worked in corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/904">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► America as you did contracting but nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► but it wasn't every company has seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► this right for a decade or more like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► in the cube yeah although I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/912">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► Merlin didn't I don't think Merlin ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/915">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► worked in big corporations but he had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► he has a keen sense of this and even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► this little company that he worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► with Dave and I know is that he makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► for he says the word Dave that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► do some people have a keener sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► this and others and nerds tend to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► just think of any endeavor involving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/932">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► large numbers of people we just assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► oh yeah once you get a lot of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► an apple is the first example I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► think of where a humungous corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► didn't it didn't act like one acted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► was better than the startups acted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► better than the smoker people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► most amazing thing about this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► the original Apple was like two guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► a garage they make the Apple one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► they make the Apple two in the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► he goes IPO everybody's rich everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► you know it's an amazing success story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► Steve Jobs on the cover of Time magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► in 1982 Premack right but look at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► whiz kids they are the kings of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► world right and then the company gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► big it's just too big that's like 83 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► it's like well you know Apple was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/974">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► when it was little did that Apple too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► but now it's a big company right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/977">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► people like a big company the magazine's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► say now it's a serious company it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► competitor to IBM which is also a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► serious company very important very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► and to do the Mac project Jobs had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/984">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► well steal a project from Jef Raskin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► internal politics but he was cultivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/992">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► the idea that the Mac team were rebels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► so he's got the pirate flag on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► the band lieth rebuilding right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► within the big behemoth corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► monster that is 1982-83 Apple right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► even then a knight a2 a3 job is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► apples too big we need to get the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► team here this going to get back to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► roots and really do this great project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► and the Mac came out of that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► did he know how big Apple would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► grow of course the year after the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► comes out he gets kicked out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► company which what I would say is proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► of the you know the the culmination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► the grim Dilbert future is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► company gets big enough and dumb enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► to eject Steve Jobs so admittedly was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► bit of a nut job back in those days but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► I don't know how someone could produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► the Macintosh and say we gotta get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► guy out of this company because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► like those types of things uh so then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► humongous it's almost a bit it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► second biggest the second biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► company in the u.s. next to Exxon Mobil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► I think I think they trade places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► actually but yeah idly right now today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► think it is a second and and this next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► gen oils company an oil company you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► look at you look at what role oil plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► and has played in a global economy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► that's that that's the number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► company and number two is Apple and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► this giant behemoth which is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► comically larger than the Apple of 1982 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs thought was just too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► and too corporate and COO full of bozos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► this is the company that is producing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► even more amazing things than the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► - you know things as amazing as the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► and not just one of them but multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► ones I saw Scott Adams the guy actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► writes Dilbert speaking of Dilbert on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► his blog it's gotta hands a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► of a nut job - but he's funny and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► a little post about Steve Jobs or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► said that he originally thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► Steve Jobs was just like in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► place at the right time er it was luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► at when he you know had these many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► successes but then he did it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► again and again once you do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► fifth great thing okay this is not luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► right and so this is I think is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► profound thing Steve Jobs did it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► proving that Hume of humans can still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► amazing things now also part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► lesson is that to make that happen there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► are going to be some things that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► so nice some people don't like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► corporate policies some people who work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► there say for for all the admiration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► that company gets on the outside on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► inside it's a little bit more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► corporate America than they thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► would be but the things that Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► as an organization are amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► and are unlike the things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► government's do that companies like IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► and Microsoft do we see it all around us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► we will eventually do the showing what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► wrong with Microsoft but that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► typical giant corporate maladies you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► everything gets ossified you get twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► everything you can't make big dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► moves even with a strong leader like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► Bill Gates and we got turned the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► ship we've got to be the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► company the internet tidal wave is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► coming that's just like barely enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► keep you alive it's not enough to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► that's not your iPod that's not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► iPad or your iPhone so that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► think if not the most important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs did at least the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► that the least the most important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► that people aren't talking about and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► gives me hope for things like government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► visit especially with a government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► wanted make us into a government show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► where Nate's politics another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► but either but the idea that government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► is fundamentally broken a large number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► of large groups of people just can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► anything smart they're just inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► dumb they they they sink to the level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► the dumbest person involved I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► Apple shows that large groups of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► really can do things and and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► ascribe that to Steve Jobs because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► Apple was big and was just screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► left and right and when he got there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► Apple got even bigger ended things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► better so that's that's what knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► that's much longer than reading the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► hundred words I read about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► but those are my two points one was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► personal story about the picture on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► wall and what Steve Jobs meant to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► other one was that the Oh Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► being to humanity I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► sounds highfalutin and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► maybe you overwrought but if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► about it maybe someone can give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► organization that's acted as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► Apple has but it's the first thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► I've ever seen in my adult life in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► jaded cynical adult life where I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► the naive kid who was just realizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► world can be changed first thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► seen where a large group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► really do something amazing over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► over and over again it and and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► about it is the streak is so long at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► that point you're like if he lived if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► you live forever he was immortal I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► Apple continued to execute like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► forever and ever like it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► sustainable thing it wasn't a fluke it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► wasn't a surprise one-time thing you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► lucky right place right time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► you're coasting on your your previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► victory it's just amazing it someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► someone points out Pixar but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► we've already done some in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► but I think we've already done Pixar I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► would say that they have a system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► making great movies or rather they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► a system for not making bad movies again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► I've still never seen cars had not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► cars too yet and I apologize for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► but it's close but then everything at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► Pixar is also related to save jobs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► you know I would describe that to him as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► well if you want to do smart see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► kind of thing I maybe one more thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► do about Steve Jobs but this is all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► have to say about my thing that I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► most a good piece I really do recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► everybody everybody read it it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► always it's always very interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► to see what people like you will will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► say or write about it and it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► almost always very different from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► I'm expecting does that make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► like this that wasn't exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► thought you would you would write but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► was like when do you think I would write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► you know I'm not really sure I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► sure I can put my finger on it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► um it was it was more personal maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► maybe then I was expecting not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► didn't expect it to reflect on your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► in some way but it you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► talking about your childhood and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► like that I thought that was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► different I have to rein myself in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► not make it even more personal realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► that's why but I thought I was the anglo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► I didn't want to do you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► want to write what I've seen other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► people write I knew everyone was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► to write here is the list of Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► greatest accomplishment and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► I'm not saying it's bad to write those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► things someone needs to write them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► just feel like other people are writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► that are going to write that better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► and the obvious things a Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► about about you know technology serving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► people and not the other way around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► perfectionism the elegance and bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► design to I knew everyone was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► talk about that and I didn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► the person doing that same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► worse which I know it would be so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► to come at a different angle and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► different angle is the personal story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► which you can't fault people for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► that I see lots of personal stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► that's their personal story they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► going to say what they have to say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► touching to read and I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► relate to that and then I also wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► find the the one larger thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► didn't think was going to be talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► about as much in the other articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► because you'll be spending too much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► on the more obvious thing so what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► resisting when I was recording stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► last night I I found myself like I lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► this in the buzz recording like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► you telling your life story like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► I hear that right and I did you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► then I was this age and then I got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► thing and then are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► Steve Jobs anymore you just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► about yourself so I really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► rein it in a little bit and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► other people feel the same inclination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► a mental doppelganger over there look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► what he wrote about jobs it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► about how all a job it was not a list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► accomplishments because I don't think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► wanted to write that either it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► was kind of a personal story but was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► kind of a personal story about Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► Jobs but it was not perhaps what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► were expecting if they expected just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► run of the mill you know I am the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► obituary writer for New York Times I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► to write about Steve Jobs because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► people who are doing that are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► do a great job at it and it's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► to have that I read and enjoyed those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1490">TS</a>]
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00:24:55 ◼ ► relate to Steve Jobs so Gruber writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1495">TS</a>]
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00:25:01 ◼ ► diary really or a journal then like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► a reporter on assignment for a magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1504">TS</a>]
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00:26:31 ◼ ► you go to squarespace.com slash 5x5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► you can go there and you'll get special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► deals and there's something that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► use when you go there if you want to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► can you can use a coupon code it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► special coupon code just for this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► emotion chip emotion chip one word and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► what that will do is that will give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► 20% off for your first six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► Squarespace comm Sasha 5x5 emotion chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► you in the Star Trek so by the ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► thoughtful Kieran Haley in the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► posted a link to Wikipedia that's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► like a formal description of the Dilbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► ization of the world that I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► about noncom try to pronounce its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► routine izing charisma that's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► how it's pronounced I'll read from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► page a routine eyes incredible is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► process by which charismatic Authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► is succeeded by bureaucratic bureaucracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► controlled by a rationally established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► traditional and bureaucratic authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► charismatic leader and his spirit goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► into the organization and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► eventually replaced by what seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► good solid business practices like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► you were a small company it's great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► go on this one dudes whims but now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► adults have to come in that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► called it when they brought in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► people to run Apple because Jobs wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► CEO back then it was like president or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► supervision so the real business people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► need to come in and this I show you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► you run a real company and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► kills big companies so I put that link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► in the show notes people can read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► entire Wikipedia page on routine izing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► charisma oh I have one more tangent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► Steve Jobs or we can go on to follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and now let's hear it so tangent that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► couldn't work into the article I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► lot of the things I saw that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► linked up stuff you know here's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► Steve Jobs Greatest Hits though here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► him introducing the iPhone stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► that and one of them is all linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► around a lot was one that I think I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► in the show notes a while back was Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► Jobs at WWDC and it was someone he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► after a politico yeah maybe he was icy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► remember that like interim CEO yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► this might have been even before that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► think this before he was even ICO he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► not yet kicked out what's his name who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► the guy he kicked that is uh Emilio yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► add to be Emilio and so he had a session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► WWC which like Steve Jobs I'll just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► up in the stays and you know you'll ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► some questions some will just chat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► that's what happened for like 45 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► people from the stage as and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► Apple in 1997 which wasn't doing so hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► so you can imagine some of the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► were kind of contentious and there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► have clone the clone stuff going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► stuff like that but if you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► that and I would highly recommend that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► should find that input in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► it's actually a YouTube video I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► long youtube video but I would recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► watching it and the sound quality is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► great but what he does is he lays out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► his vision of the future of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► and with the exception of some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► weird stuff around the clones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► described a lot of it it sounds crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► like that Apple could branch out into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► network connected electronics and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► how what computing would be like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► future and you know if you're back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► Apple this time with Apple compare lis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► stay in business and it's in the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► business oh and there's the Newton thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► which I think had just been canned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► he's laying up as this grand vision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► what the future would be like it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► ridiculous like yeah whatever Joker get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► off the stage what have you done for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► lately but people look at it now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► Richards back hoe my god you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► would a visionary he predicted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► future he would what a visionary you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► know he could see farther than we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► uh and this like I like listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► that and I like watching the older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► videos like that but I don't like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► idea that Steve Jobs has some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► supernatural power that people who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► like he he could see the future we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► couldn't he he's special and magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► it's almost like it's an excuse for why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► you are not Steve Jobs because well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► Steve Jobs is special and magical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► obviously I can't be that uh that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► don't like that I don't like ascribing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► but once you invoke the supernatural you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► are checking out of reality so as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► I'm concerned so they it's like like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► for Yui you can't do that you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► thinking about it quickly you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► thinking about how he actually did it uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► in reality I think this is the old alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► kay saying the the best way to predict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► the future is to invent it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► what he did he didn't predict what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► future would be like because he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► Nostradamus he said what he would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► the future to be like and then he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► it that way that's why it matches what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► he said because he made it that way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► was the one he was the one who did it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► didn't predict a future like a visionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► I will predict the future and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► just sit back and cross your arms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► you wait and it turns out way different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► than your predicted well it won't turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► out different if you are the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► makes all that stuff you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► obviously not with his own little hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► but like he kicked out the other CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► took over the company and just set to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► work doing all the things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► thought should be done and so it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► coincidence that he said that the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► matched what he said because it was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► plan and the that's I think what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► who are close to Apple ever know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Apple admire the most about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► people who don't know anything about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► like you know just random people who saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► that he died in the moon news or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► that's that guy he must have been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► smart he made those iPods and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► iPads boy what a smart guy he's magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► it's like Einstein or Edison you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► they become a character in history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► not a real person but the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► follow Apple and who have been with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► and have known him for his entire career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► well I think we admire about him is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► same thing we admire about like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► only other place I can imagine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► happening or this happens frequently is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► athletics where people admire Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► Jordan for example because he sent it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► clearly setting audacious goal he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► going to be the best basketball player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► rather he was going to bin every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► championship he was going to spoil the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► most points in every single game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► then he then he actually did that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► setting in a bit ambitious goal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► executing and accomplishing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► that's what Steve Jobs did do and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► what we admire about him stick the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► that he he dreamed these dreams that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► many people had like I imagine computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► could be this way and then he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► goal-setting and then the execution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► the accomplishment of the goals that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► triumph that his personal triumph of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► accomplishing what he wanted to do is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► was not because we think he's magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► because it's like no matter what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► thinking of if your goal is to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► whatever your goal happens to be to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► a marathon and then you and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► accomplish that that feels great and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► like seeing movies about people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► that they set some really ambitious goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► and then they achieve it that's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► want to see and Steve Jobs had perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► grander dreams than any of us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► actually accomplished them and like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► you see that in sports a Michael Jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► Lance Armstrong Michael Phelps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► people who had big dreams and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► then actually did them right that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► that's a better lesson to take away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► Steve Jobs then he's special and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► outlier and and we no one else can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► what he did everybody can do what he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► on a different scale or in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► context you shouldn't check out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► thinking that that's a different reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► and that he's magical or supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► he's just a person like we are he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► it's hard work and you have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► sacrifices and it's not always pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► and there's going to be stumbles along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► the way but but he had that crazy goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► that he's you know his whole life he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► had these crazy goals that Mac was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► crazy goal that the iPod everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► but he actually did it that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► couldn't find a way to work into what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► wanted to write about but I just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► to buy that I don't like I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► the deification of Steve Jobs I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► better too I liked it better when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you recognized him as a person and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► he has and take the lesson away that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► it's a it's a story of triumph just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► any other possibly smaller story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► triumph it's just the things he did are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► different still a great guy yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► that's the the celebrity angle something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► I could have talked about but didn't for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► people who are celebrities and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► kind of a celebrity this happens more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► with actors and singers and stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► you see all the interviews with them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► listen to all their music you watch all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► their movies you buy all their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► whatever it is and you start to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► that you know the person right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► a celebrity thing when you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► millet use if you see your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► celebrity like God I know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► about this person I know the biography I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► read their life story I've seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► million injuries with them it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► they're your friend but they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► you because they've never seen you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► met you and so you have this you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► this weird desire to be like I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► so much I bet we could be great friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► if you only knew me which is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► certainly not the case well in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► cases they they feel like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► already their friend I bet that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► are people who are listening to you who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► listen to every single episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► show and they've listened to have over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► 30 40 of these and if they were to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► they'd be like God you know remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► that time we were talking about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► you're like well I was I wasn't talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► to you about that and I was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► to Dan about that but you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► they're part of this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► because they're listening to it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► in an intimate way and for somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► Steve Jobs you've been using things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► that person has inspired or created and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► you've been paying attention to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► that they've said for for decades so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► feel like you have a connection to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► person even though in from that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► standpoint they haven't like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► saying they have no clue who you are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► had the same experience when I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► guesting on the Stack Exchange podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► are we gonna end the show that was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► yeah so those guys I've listened I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► ever been reading with Joel and writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► on the web since you know for a decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► and I've listened to all their podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► and I felt like I and you even this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► you communicate with them on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► occasionally or whatever I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► knew them it felt like hey we're buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► pals but they didn't know me from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► whole wall it's just it's the easy trap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► to to fall into I'm gonna hook this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► the this is a day Stack Exchange podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► number 20 I'll put this in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► notes great listen yeah and so I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► myself with this inclination to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► when somebody dies the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► most affected by are the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► personally knew him and to a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► nobody personally knew him you know only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► it's a very small compared to the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► of people who think they know Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► products and have read all about him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► stuff like that so you find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► wanting wishing wishing you had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► personal friends with Steve Jobs he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► like and now he's gone and now we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► the irrational no busy we're never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► be friends with him anyway right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► can't be friends with the whole world I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► even you know I saw some stories they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► even the people who did know him we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► all trying to see him before he died and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► he was very particular right even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► set of people he was you know going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► talk to and write I made it to he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► choices that you would say well why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► would you make that like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► piece of people who he talked to was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► don't know how to pronounce his last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► name but John Doerr do eerr was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► venture capitalist for the early Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► and I don't know what their relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► was but I can imagine like the reason he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► might have talked with him was that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► back when I was starting capital a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► starting Apple I needed somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► believed in me and who would give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► money to do my thing and this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► guy who this was the venture capitalist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► right that's the guy who steve job wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► to talk to he doesn't want to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► his adoring fans who bought like and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► that he doesn't like you or anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► that that feeling that that sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► loss that now I can never be friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► with Steve Jobs makes no sense on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► rational basis but I think a lot of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► feel it simply because we felt like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► either already was our friend or could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► have been our friend or we would have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► lot to talk about or you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► that that that's a weird that's a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► feeling and I think I think we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► feeling it yeah that's all I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► have to say about jobs unless you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► any anything you want to add or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► questions or any other things gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► bring up what do you what do you think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► mean without getting too much into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► speculating on the future what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► think that immediate challenges are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► going to be not for Apple as a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► but for the people at Apple I mean I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► got a few friends who work at Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► probably do too I talked to a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► them and and and for them they were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► know like there were people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► telling me oh you know that you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► you know you might imagine well people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► would just be down or they would just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► depressed and obviously people are sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► but if anything the people that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► what they've told me being at Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► it is that they're actually inspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► they're trying you know they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► to write better code they're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► later you know they're they're staying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► longer they're they're you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► they're doing more yeah this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► when the the danger starts for Apple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► a company where it's obviously there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► obviously are going to have the speed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► and that's good but you it is the danger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► when the guy is not there when he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► alive anymore but that he becomes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► like a martyr and like yeah it you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► I was saying is you don't want to DF I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► Steve Jobs like everyone there wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► respect him and say what would Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► think of this and we should do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► like Steve proud but when Steve is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► actually there to tell you what the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► he actually likes and what actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► make him proud other people can coop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► that intentionally or unintentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and you know people start doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► in his name or saying well this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► Steve would have wanted and when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► actual person is there and when he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► like down-to-earth and always cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► straight to the bone and just like from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► interactions he was the first one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► like would be the first one to cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► wind out of the sails of this legend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► Steve Jobs he comes in he tells you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► he wants tells you what's good tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► what's not uh and it's not always what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► you want to hear and doesn't always make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► you happy and sometimes he's you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► hard-ass and when he's not there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► something to make Steve Jobs proud you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► have to be very careful that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► drift that you don't start to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► little bit of you know it doesn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► on a new meaning slowly over time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► everyone's gonna try to claim him like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► actually Steve Jobs want this and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► not there anymore he can't tell you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► so that's that's the long-term danger in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► short term I think that phenomenon I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► talking about where like we all think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► we're Steve Jobs friend and we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► hang out with him stuff like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► magnified eight billion fold when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► routinely see him in the hallway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► occasionally he does come over to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► desk and looks at something and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► like the highlight of your year right uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► now imagine what lost their feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► because they weren't his friends either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► right they were just his co-workers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► that's so much closer relationship than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► guy who buys ipods a lot so I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► they're feeling that even more acutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► because then that really is a real loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► he was you know he was there either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► directly or indirectly shaping them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► individuals and commenting on their work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► and judging it and if they if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► something they wanted which I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► they what if they work at Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► they respect his opinion that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► feedback is gone now so that's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► a really big loss for them what you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► I think we can go to follow up now okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► follow the heavy stuff with the lightest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► possible stuff I'm not which I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► start with you rob before well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► kind of all but the last bit of Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► Jobs thing is that I wanted to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► my mother called me at work when Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► Jobs said the day after Steve don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► to on top of the news cycle to to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► her condolences and were they the funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► thing that she said maybe we'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► if we have time for stuff later is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► uh she was mentioning it's just so soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► after you left she doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► timeline exactly now but yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► like how many months was at one month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► two months yeah it was not all it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► not long yeah and she mentioned it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► just after that that new announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► thing because that was covered in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► mainstream you know the iPhone 4s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► announcement and one of the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► mentioned is but but people were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► disappointed in that announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► so there there you go that is outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► the echo chamber in the mainstream world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► of news coverage the impression from mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► is that the iPhone 4s announcement was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► we'll discuss that what if we start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► discussing the iPhone snap we should and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► and I actually had you know it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► you mentioned getting that call my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► brother-in-law who is probably as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► outside of the geek range as your mom uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► he is a you know a regular guy he texted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► me to you know offer his condolences so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► I mean it's it's clear that that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► are aware of that but he didn't see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► know this was before the um this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► before I think he was you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► really really really in news and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► just it's interesting how it reads it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► it's so widely known who Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► as some people have said to me recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► they said you know what I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► until I was reading his obituary that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► that he was involved with Pixar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► people have said that to me and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► all everybody makes the association with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► Apple but maybe not necessarily with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► Pixar he actually owned more of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► fortune came from Pixar than from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► maybe twice double well Disney but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► it's all finally what leave it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► actually well let's go to fall so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► talked about many shows ago the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► Netflix queue management thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► Gruber had mentioned when you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► movie stuck at the top of the queue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► I had said that it would be best for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► to just return that movie because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► just blocking up your queue and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► never going to watch it but it feels bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► to return without watching it and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► I said it was something like the sunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► cost fallacy where you've already you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► already incurred that loss best to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► you know move on someone sent me I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► mangas name again Jonathan Llodra folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► sorry P oo udre sent a link to a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► mapping of that it's a cognitive bias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► called hyperbolic discounting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► rating curve is male here this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► we all think that our future selves are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► more trustworthy than than we currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► are so it's sort of like saying some day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► I'll watch this movie but tonight I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► it's like sloppier right so I think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► day I'll watch Saving Private Ryan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► tonight I'm going to watch Iron Man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► right you just always assume that you of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► the future will live up to the ideals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► that you set for yourself not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► you of the present who just wants to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► pizza and watch some cruddy B movie so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► put the show link in the show notes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► hyperbolic discounting which is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► complaints about things we say in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► show this is Jonathan Jonathan not John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► top Lee so could you please stop saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► that you could care less I did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► myself in a recent show and I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► myself saying it and I wondered if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► someone's saying but he says that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► say it more than I do I hadn't noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► you saying but this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► things well first of all miss speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► on podcasts I do it all the time and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► amazed that people don't call me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► I'm on a show three shows ago I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► Microsoft PSP not a single person called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► me on that probably because I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► yeah I immediately followed it up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► talking extensively about how Sony did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► XY and Z with the PSP so it was clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► from context of the rest of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► that I understood that the PSP came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► stony you know I'll tell you in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► case what it is is that you're clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► intelligent and in fact you're you speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► with such authority that you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► Apple's new version of Windows is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► horrible and people would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► before they would correct you they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► question their own concept of reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► and I get I guess Apple is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► behind Windows they would or maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► just talk really fast I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► former but you do put it at any rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► yeah so that's miss speaking but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► could care less thing that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► situations where the the nonsensical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► version of that I don't know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► would call that colloquialism I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► sure they correct word for that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► but we all say that so much we all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► what you mean they're the one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► find most annoying every all have our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► mathematically mmm-hmm it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► even the mathematical reality of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► phrase is not what's meant by the by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► you know but when someone says lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► common denominator we all know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► they're talking about I'm going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► back to what I talked about in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► writing show is that all this stuff we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► all have our peeves and it's better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► be correct and it's better to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► couldn't care less instead of could care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► less but let's not forget that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► purpose of speech and writing is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► and if we're successfully communicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► like even even this guy complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► about it he knows what we meant he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► doesn't like the fact the phrase doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► actually mean that because it it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► know the same way I don't like lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► successfully communicated right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► people understand what we mean yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► and sometimes saying it the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► has better success at communicating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► saying it the right way like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► something if I didn't say lowest common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► denominator but I said greatest common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► denominator people will think for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► does he mean the opposite of what I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► to be the traditional meaning of lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► common denominator and they get confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► and it's yeah English the English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► language is weird grammars weird usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► is weird and even in phrases that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► no logical sense eventually just take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► these weird meanings so uh I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► should say couldn't care less but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► we say could care less I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► successful communication so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► want to save John Copley who was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► nice who gave pronunciation of his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► t.o.p - le e top Li but I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► got them one without his help but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► like Jonathan Blow drew - please pride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► pronunciation love your neighbor unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► you want me to mangle it yeah loader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► yeah he's written in before was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► you've made that same noise memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► that's how I pronounce his name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► people know what I mean yeah to further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► so another one you know you do the nosy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► and siracusa and you always you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► say that voice it's something solid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► what you say nosy and nos why yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► like butting in or having a big nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► which I do but that's exactly the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► reason you say nosey is because back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► when we first chatted on podcast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► have trouble pronouncing my name and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► would always put the Z in it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► still do you backslide a lot you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► you people hear it because it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► better it's an upgrade yeah I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► you you slide back in a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► the one I've seen more recently is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► the reviews which thank you for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► has written a review but recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► there's been a rash of reviews with why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► like the sy RAC USA because the the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► in New York Syracuse is sy ha ha and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► that's sort of the the Americanization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► of the Italian city which is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► spelled by like my last name my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► does not have a Y in it and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► cargo cult thing because people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► seeing the most recent review oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► then they around you it they dodge this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► ah they just copy and paste the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► they're like oh that the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► reviewer must have done had a spout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► there is no y in my name so if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► to mix it up then you can do Syracuse in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► to Y but I think you should keep doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► remember it's not circ use' si RAC you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► si yeah we've done the mnemonic before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► right people want to remember how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► spell it it's sir si R because we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► three letters there then you've got AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► in the middle which is the only part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► have to remember and then USA which easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► for Americans to remember oh no no Z [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► yeah Star Wars blu-rays we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► Star Wars and the blu-rays and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► business a couple of shows ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► mentioned how I thought I might end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► buying the original trilogy thing simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► because the Empire Strikes Back is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► of my favorite movies of all time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► the Empire Strikes Back is the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► stuff there are no character destroying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► moments like griot shooting first there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► are no copy-and-paste in people from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► prequels like the ghosts and Return of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► the Jedi there's certainly no additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► Darth Vader no business when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► chucking the emperor down yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► that's Empire Empire is the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► touched and it is my favorites I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► high-definition version of that movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► I was going to buy it but before I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► said let me just do a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► research and I asked around on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► and I said for people who have bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► or people who know there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► special features that come with the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► Wars blu-rays like making of movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► never-before-seen interviews and next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► one you know all that business and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► wanted those and I said do those special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► features only come with the big set that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► includes all the movies are they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► included with the with the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► trilogy box set which just includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► those three movies and the answer I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► was that the special features are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► on the big set and then I asked if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► the big set are the special features are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► the original trilogy special features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► mixed in with the prequel special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► features like you know are they touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► each other and the answer is no there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► are separate discs one disc for special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► features for the prequels and one disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► for special features for the real Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► Wars movies and so I actually did end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► buying the full Star Wars blu-ray boxset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► which includes the prequels and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► just simply never open those boxes just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► so I could get a high definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► even though the lightsabers are pink and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► there are some changes that make no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► sense like the additional seamless Vader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► going back to his starters drawer but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► get to see the special features a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► Lucas always finds a way to get me so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► put in the special features discs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► I'm like I'm going to see these special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► features about these movies that I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► and some of them are really neat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► they all seem to play in this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► player window it's like like a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► desktop where there's a background and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► little viewer screen and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► picture appears in the viewer screen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3183">TS</a>]
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00:54:13 ◼ ► and iPhone 4s or otherwise and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3253">TS</a>]
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00:55:37 ◼ ► now has your money he should give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3337">TS</a>]
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00:55:46 ◼ ► an iPhone it's just what I choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3346">TS</a>]
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00:56:02 ◼ ► iPhones if I wanted to I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► would be an effective use of my money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3364">TS</a>]
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00:56:10 ◼ ► whatever just put it in the kids bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► accounts for college whatever so please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3371">TS</a>]
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00:56:24 ◼ ► your friends buy you a gift it's rude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► not to accept it but when strangers try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3387">TS</a>]
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00:56:31 ◼ ► money back to those people I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► the idea that they would like for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► have an iPhone someday I'm sure I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3394">TS</a>]
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00:56:39 ◼ ► eventually justify it I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3399">TS</a>]
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00:56:42 ◼ ► gonna want cellphones because all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► kids are gonna have them and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3403">TS</a>]
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00:56:46 ◼ ► phones like iPhones will enter my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3406">TS</a>]
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00:57:04 ◼ ► want to do this and it's like they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► feel bad that they couldn't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► thing because like they're giving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► willingly they want me to have one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► would make them happy for me to have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3431">TS</a>]
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00:57:17 ◼ ► you don't want one from this yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3437">TS</a>]
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00:57:39 ◼ ► out wait a few more versions let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3459">TS</a>]
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00:58:14 ◼ ► through the whole iPhone announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3494">TS</a>]
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00:59:42 ◼ ► saying why not get an unlock phone why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► not get when I get one unlock it and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► your SIM card from your current prepaid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► phone so on and so forth I said to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► the episode six or whatever we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► about iPhones I don't want to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► the whole I don't want to pay for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► I don't want to deal with the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► a jailbroken stuff so for the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► that are gray market slash illegal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► don't want to deal with that hassle for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► things that aren't like buying an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► official unlock phone from Apple I cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► a lot of money and it doesn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► it doesn't help me to get an unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► because you start to pay for a data plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► if you want to use it right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► thing uses signe we're going to add data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► so if I buy 200 megabyte data plan it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► just I don't want the monthly bill it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► buying an unlock one is a suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► that people keep saying I don't I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► don't want the bill unlocked phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► doesn't get free data doesn't get free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► voice even the voice built people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► I was the data plan it's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► voices well I pay like eight dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► month for my voice and I use almost none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► of it it's like for emergencies that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► car breaks down that's what I use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► cell phone for or if I'm on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► needs a call about picking up a kid from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► daycare or school or something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► what I use my phone for almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► suggesting that the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► collecting money that they should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► give it to charity I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► fair either because the people who gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► that money thought they were giving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► something that would make them feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► they didn't give it for the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► collect my money to pick a charity they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► also didn't give it for me to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► charity the person who collected that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► money should give the money back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► individual people because the thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► wanted to give the money for it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► and so they should be allowed to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► what happens that my addition say odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► you know that person gave their money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► some sort of research organization for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► that's not what they get the money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► it's not fair so I think the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► should get the money back alright Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► so did you see the Apple ad with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► dude jogging yes he's like make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► appointment I've got another appointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► at that time or I move it to send a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► message to my wife blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► these things the Siri thing is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► cruel because people who watch this ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► and the ad is made to do this people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► know that AI doesn't exist artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► intelligence but people washes ad even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► people who should know better and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► think it's AI right and it's not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► that's I think going to be a problem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► in reality I think this thing will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► great when you have a limited vocabulary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► and we have enough processing power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► get recognition to work right but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► going to work like a text adventure game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► where you have to learn the vocabulary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► like when you're a kid you get it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► move couch or you know push lever pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► lever use X on Y you learn when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► computer nerd you start learning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► understands and that's after eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► thousand times of the game engine coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► back to you saying I don't understand X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► Y I don't know how to yank I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► how to leap I don't know how to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► question not understood command line it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► you go through a ton of that before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► figure out the vocabulary of the game so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► that when you're in the final dungeon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► whatever you can just rattle off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► commands that you know will fit into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► grammar of the thing Siri has a grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► too it has a set of things that it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► do it's more flexible than those old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► texts eventer game so you can phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► synonyms and so on and so forth that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► that's why it's in advance in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► it's a better recognition engine and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► the way it's not the speech component as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► far as I understand Siri came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► the part that figures out what the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► you're saying textually but the speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► recognition part that turns what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► said into text commands is separate so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► so series is the thing that's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► parse your English sentence I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► can I keep messing up people gonna hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► that I think it's a speech recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► understanding engine but it is not AI it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► will not understand you like a secretary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► would it's not going to work like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► does in that video is special for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► regular people who don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► vocabulary now you're going to have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► or two magical experiences where you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► something and it happens to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► work but you're gonna spend a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► time I think figuring out what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► to say now this doesn't this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► mean it's Siri is bad Siri is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► because for the people who do learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► vocabulary even if you just learn one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► piece of vocabulary even if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► learn the reply to text message thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► that will let you reply to someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► text message without taking your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► off the wheel or without taking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► phone out of your pocket or you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► look something up quickly if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► you just wanna look up a restaurant you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► don't want to type it out with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► once you learn those one or two little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► commands that you will actually use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► will be a great addition and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► this is great technology it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► make the iPhone 4s well worth buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► you will have to learn those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► commands essentially it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► be a magical helpful person that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► talk to and it's not it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► be your secretary and I fear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► everybody watching that Edie thinks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► going to be their secretary and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► going to bring the thing home they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► going to start talking to it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► just going to bounce right off of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► because they have no idea what the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► things that understands and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and that's seen before you get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► possible problems with the actual speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► recognition part the translation of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► speech and detect someone saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► natural language processing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► process of understanding the text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► the meaning behind it and then before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► that is the barrier translating what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► said into a text command so I fear for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► the Siri backlash kind of Doonesbury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► eggs freckles moment for Siri but I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► I do think it's it's going to be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► addition simply because typing stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► that little keyboard is sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► fumbling in a pane and if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► something that you do frequently as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► of your daily routine like replying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► appointment without having to open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► the the calendar app and tap around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► stuff if you can figure out because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► do that a hundred times a day and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► get a hang of like how this works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► Siri and what's command Siri knows this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► will be a huge boost to your efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► not to have to go pecking in there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► your fingers but it is not going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► magic robot it's not going to be hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► it's not going to be a secretary so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► you say so I mean it don't you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► fear that layperson fear when you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► that ad know like it's not going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► you're not maybe I think I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► work like that and I'm looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► to it you can't blow not alright that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► the thing about the Nerds though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► like we'll figure it out the same way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► figure out those texts adventury we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► figure it out in a day or two and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► know exactly what you can send you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► say and we'll want to show it off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► people and you say hey mom check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► look here take this phone out tell it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► do whatever and should be like tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► what and she'll say something and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► like no you have to say it like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► it's gonna be it's not gonna be like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► is in the ad and because we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► and that's that's the worst part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► relay people who don't know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► don't have I I don't don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► the current state of Technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► artificial intelligence and how far we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► are from anything that comes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► remotely close to what they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► consider AI and when it does what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► want like one or two things in a row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► when does what they want the like see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► knows it's thinking it's smart like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► yeah when we actually get AI boy that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► be great right up until it didn't slaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► awesome kills us all but but it but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► don't have it yet in series not it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► think it's a great feature they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► really useful that will also have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► humongous backlash I hope I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► about the backlash part but we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► then it that sense yeah I have many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► things now iPhone announcement I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► that if we still have the talent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► Windows eight stuff I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► we'll even do that at this point I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► want to talk about what's wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► Microsoft eventually so yeah the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► time we get the next time we talk I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► have an iPhone for us and I'd be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► Siri please call Jon siracusa nose II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► need a nickname for me in the address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► book nosy I was going to say can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► you assign you know how like uh in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► least in in your favorite science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► fiction world in Star Trek uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► they are they to activate the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► to start talking the computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► computer and then it lated listens it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► starts and it starts talking to you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► don't have to do that with Siri you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► to hold down the the button or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► but I'd like to name Iowa if I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► wouldn't I would given a name to Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► and then it would always be listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► see then you know you got really high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► when it's always listening well Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► did that with speech recognition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► classic Mac OS where you could assign a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► name to your computer and it would wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► for the name you'd there was different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► modes you can still hold down a key and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► make a deal but the one mole I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► know you it was all it could always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► yeah it could listen for your net for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► its name and then do what you said it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► default name was computer my friend whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► I was telling you remembered back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► day when he was that they first got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► first set of 660 a V's remember those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► you know remember the AV series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► Macintosh's are great so anyway he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► yell across the office through the guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► computer computer shut down and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► shut down that's great but nope no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► confirmation coming right yeah so they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► be naming the thing and pushing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► button is much better that will help a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► lot because people kind of understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► that from walkie-talkies yeah yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► I'm looking forward to you getting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► phone assuming it ships on time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► assuming you don't break it any interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► between that time you get it answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► okay use the case you're getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► Apple Care Plus mmm you should reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► hazy you should get it is too late now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► you have to get it when you buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► phone if you didn't order it now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► you can't I think you can no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► that was the yeah Theo today so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► get AppleCare you can get the Apple Care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► Plus at plus thing is like I drop it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► the toilet they'll give you a numeric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► test I don't need that I'll see how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► well faith does with her naked iPhone me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► I know well beyond her to replace it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► she busted as an as an employee of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► company you get it you get an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► it's part of your standard you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► no definitely not so that's it but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► will be back we will be back next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► and people can follow you on twitter at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► as just at siracusa know why i'm dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► benjamin on twitter we appreciate all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► you who have gone in and reviewed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► rated the show please keep doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► please keep doing it and you can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► previous episodes of this show and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► of the other shows that we do on 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► just by going to 5x5 TV I always get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► email from people where they say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► don't cross promote the other shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► enough I didn't know that there were any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► other shows besides hypercritical on 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► there are and and then I I promoted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► few then I actually felt bad and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► maybe I don't promote enough so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► promoted a few of the shows and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► got more email saying and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► inaccurate by the way but you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► promoted the shows you were on and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► said that's not true I promoted the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► ahead I promoted back power users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► and I also did promote like Andy knockos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► but gets good so don't just how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► this just go to 5x5 TV there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► cool shows that we'd love for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► listen to them you just go there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► and that seems seems reasonable right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► John and write a review it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipnr0Vqg/4272">TS</a>]