00:00:01 ◼ ► this is hypercritical this is a weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► talkshow ruminating on exactly what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► wrong in the will of Apple and related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/6">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► technologies and businesses as we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► here nothing is so perfect it cannot be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/10">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► complained about by Michael and perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/11">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► siracusa nosey I'm Dan benjamin this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► episode number 33 I'd like to say thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/20">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► to easy DNS calm and mailchimp.com for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► making this show possible and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► as always bandwidth for this episode has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► technologies Virtual Private servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► submerged in oil go to mine screen tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► comm / 5x5 find out how to get some free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► bandwidth here we are John its September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► of 2011 we have you're saying you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► know what we're going to talk about yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► that's gonna Ellis the stuff there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► bunch of links and already in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► thing I didn't put all of them there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► you must have put some there may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/59">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► faith they all I did all I do is think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► about this show day and night yeah uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► guess I have a little bit of follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► and then we can pick what we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/67">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► talk about what handed sure so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/68">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► follow-up work talked about the 27-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► display that I said with a thirty inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► display and I talked about how the URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► said slash displays but this is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/79">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► corrected this is not the only one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► sell they still sell the old 27-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► that doesn't have Thunderbolt really I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► because there are some Mac's that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/91">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► know thunderbolt ports and you I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► you can't use the new one where the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► leo is not with under bolt port that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/97">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► the theory proposed to me I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/98">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► if it's true so you're saying you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► go out there today and buy there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► models of the 27-inch but there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/103">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► they're just 27-inch variants and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► them has the you know the Ethernet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► the fire reports and stuff in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► on the other one and a thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► connector on the other one just has mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► DisplayPort which even though it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/118">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► same shape connector is actually sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► so that was the only legitimate piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► I'll whop and then I have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► miscellaneous stuff oh I guess one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► thing the Mac Ruby people are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► I shouldn't call the macaron people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► they're not my crew be people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/135">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► people who doesn't know no they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/136">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► and I like involved in the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► of Mac Ruby I don't even open am use Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► insistence that it's bridgie like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► bridge is come under fire some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/148">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► saying of it according to my definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► of bridge that would make objective-c a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► bridge or a C+ Objective C sports sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► a bridge I don't want to go through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► this again I just find this topic to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► away I asked the people who talked to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► about on Twitter like so do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► Mac Ruby should be the next language or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► that it will be and no one has really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► said that they think it will be and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► for should I don't think I got any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► committers on that either so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► quite sure what their objection is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► they're they don't think that is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► indication that it will be the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► language and none of them are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► say oh yes hundred percent it definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► should be the next language I guess they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► just don't like me calling it a bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► so maybe I'll pick a different word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► it I don't know but we'll see you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► this could all come around the WWC 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► and they announced oh that's the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► language I'm sure we'll have a whole big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► show but that'd be great if they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► that I don't know it would be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► be different yeah um so what else do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► have in the follow up in I just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► technically follow up that are just many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► topics so let's go right to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► what we're going to talk about today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/222">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► mentioned last week that we could talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/223">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► about what ails Microsoft and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► course there's markdown lurking there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► which one of those interests you is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► mean I I could continue to put off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► markdown one as long as you would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► but uh people seem to be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► that they seem to like that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► people crave yeah that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► problem with like putting it off it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► I put off a topic it's because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► think it's that interesting it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► because I'm withholding information to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► try to make people want any more if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► was really exciting interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► needed to be talked about I would talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► about it it gets pushed off because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/255">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► think it's boring and not that great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► we'll do it just to get out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► all right so for the people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► down is it is a format for writing text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/267">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► a formalized form of writing text that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► gives you something in the end so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► is created by our friend John Gruber who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► does talk show you can go to his website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► during fireball than that slash markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► I believe will redirect you to slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► project slash markdown or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► anyway you'll find it and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► I've have a couple of snippets quoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► from his markdown pages rather than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► trying to explain it what I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► intention of was he just comes right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► says here's what the intention was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► marked down so this is a quote markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► allows you to write using an easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► read easy to write plain text format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► then converted to structurally valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► XHTML or HTML you can tell how long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► that was written by the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► says XHTML which don't really write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► talks about before hht no no it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► XHTML first and then parenthesis or HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► hmm I would think he would need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► subscribe place and edit yeah guilty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► html5 no space so so that's the idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/322">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► that if you look at what markdown looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► like I'll give you some example so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► like if you write a word with little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► asterisks around it you know shift date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► that word will become bold and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► put underscores before and after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► word it will become might Alec it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/341">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► of the way people write in emails when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► they didn't have style text back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► plain text email day so if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► emphasize the word you put the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► stars around it well markdown formalizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► that and says if you write that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► run it through a markdown processor when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► we see those little stars we replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► them with little bee tags around your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► thing on same thing with I tags and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► on and so forth then of course like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► does paragraphs for you so you just type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► paragraphs as you naturally would in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/367">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► plain text type of email and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► markdown goes through it it puts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► little P tags around everything the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► thing with header is this little ASCII [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► formats for all this stuff so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► here's another quote from the thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► what's what's the point of this why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► does this thing exist the overriding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► design goal for markdowns formatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/384">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► syntax is to make it as readable as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► formatted document should be publishable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► as is as plain text without looking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► formatting instructions so that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► different than a lot of other markup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► languages like HTML or anything else the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► email or Usenet post from way back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► you should be able to take something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► wrote in markdown just and just send to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► someone having read it and not have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► say oh my god what the heck is this am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► looking at you know raw binary format or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/410">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► document marked up with HTML it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► it's only as to their eyes they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► expect to read it but if you send your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► mom something written in markdown maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► she wouldn't know what the little stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► mean but like eventually you pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► that stuff kind of culturally and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► can understand the text and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/425">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► the paragraphs is the big point because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► everybody has paragraphs you hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► everybody writes paragraphs you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► something you had returned twice then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► you write something else it returned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► twice and it breaks up your message into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► a series of paragraphs those aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► marked up and so it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► come up with a markup language like HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► or anything like that it doesn't at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► very least like even if you use no style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► text no bold no italics just plain text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► you'd still need the little P tags and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► that's ugly and confusing people won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► go to meet so that's the goal of mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► then it should look like it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/457">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► shouldn't just be this like internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► compiled format then all your machine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► ever meant to read it's human readable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/465">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► snippet that from that page I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/472">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► point out what he says markdown is two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► one applying text formatting syntax and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► two the software tool written Perl that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► converts plain text formatting to HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► so he's defined this format and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► he's provided this tool that if you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► text in this format in feeted to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► tool also called markdown or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► will spit out HTML or XHTML at your at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► your preference so as you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► there's lots of people use this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► Gruber uses it to write his blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► you know your rights he writes it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► writes in a markdown and then it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/503">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► converted into HTML that appears on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► web page right and lots of other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► use of the same thing like forum posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► Overflow is another example or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► those sites those Q&A sites where when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► you write your question or your answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/517">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► you write it in markdown format instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► of writing in HTML or whatever um all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► right so lots of people like markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► lots of people use it it's either we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► shouldn't as there are alternatives to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► this or there other things people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► or when saying was going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► mark then many people were sending me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► suggestions you should also compare it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► to X or take a look at Y and see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► it's different to Q and Z there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► been tons of these formats so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► ones that comes to mind that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► about I'll talk about later but textile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► is one of the ones that was mentioned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► me there's a couple of markdown variants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► alliterations mega markdown bla bla bla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► like where they take markdown add one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► two things they think shouldn't be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► or whatever a lot of people like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/560">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► feature so if you're writing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► that accepts user input this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/567">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► internal problem like back way back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► applications and evitable you would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► a box in front of user and say and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► they're going to type their stuff here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► and people want to type more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► things than just that unit even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► just reflecting text your first problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► was I'm going to put a box here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► people are going to type stuff and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► they're going to hit a button and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► what the type is going to appear on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► website like that was the beginning of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► guess web 1.0 and even if you just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► that you can't just take what they type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► literally like the character sent by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► browser and show that on a web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► because it'll all run together because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► white spaces doesn't have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► significance in HTML does inside that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► text field when you're typing all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► exactly very least you have to wrap it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► in P tags which isn't rocket science but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► can be done and then if you are a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► little web 1.0 programmer you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► remember oh yeah and I got to escape all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► of the characters that are meaningful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► someone writes one less than two doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► think it's the beginning of a to tag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/622">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► inevitably people wanted to do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► at this point web 1.0 world people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► already been on Usenet and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► that for a long period of time and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► conventions about bold italic and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► like that had been around for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► time we're not the fact that it was bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► but people wanted to write you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► really like this and really has little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► emphasize the real right and same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► with the underscores they were less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► common but those things existed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► people would write that in little text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/649">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► boxes and then it would appear on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/650">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► website and I say you know what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► HTML it's not using that it's not ASCII [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► why why can't that appear as a proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► bold tag so eventually the savvy users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► learn the bold tag is this and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► would write you know less than B greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► than and then really in less than slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► and they would submit it and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/668">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► show up on a type a site with a tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► strong because the good one web 1.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► program had escaped this stuff and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► was I was not what I wanted I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► be bold I didn't want to see the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► B tags like I did mean obviously when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► was typing in the text field I saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► website I wanted to pee at her as proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► styled text and the web 1.0 programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► if he was a little bit naive but say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► okay sure I'll let you do that I'll stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► everybody you have to write HTML in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► field or maybe a checkbox it says if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► you're an expert check this and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► write HTML and I just opened a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► can of worms because first of all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► know that checkbox does if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► know HTML so they would check it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► check it or be confused about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► then they would write a less than sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► or I you know something they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► be a little less than sign and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► screw up their whole post and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► disappear especially back when browsers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► were bad about recovering from errors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► writing in HTML you could make the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► of your thing disappear right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► you have like big scary one warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► experts and then you know that lasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/724">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► about two weeks until expert figures out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► you can write like JavaScript : and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► you're in your image sources and run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► arbitrary text on people's browsers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► I have only secured the exploits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► you're making the rest of the page blink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► and become a marquee here wherever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► hell you know right and people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► griefing the system so then the poor web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► pointer for says 1.0 permits is okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► you're only allowed to use these tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► I'm going to filter it out so you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► use these tags but then the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► find the holes in the guys filtering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► syntax is using regular expressions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► try to find anything looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► beginning of a tag but this guy cleverly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/753">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► hid it with a Unicode entity or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► it's just in the mess all right forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► hTML is out I can't handle it every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► I try to get rid of the HTML and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/761">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► allow B&I tags that people find new ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► to sneak in malware and the spam bots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► are attacking me know HTML not that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► not allowing I'm only going to allow my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► own cool special languages if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► to do bold stuff put stars around it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► you want to do under Stalin underscores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► and I'll just look for the stars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► replace them with eye tag so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► tags it will be in there are the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► that I put there and I'm only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/780">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► put in I tags I'm going to put a bee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► tags and P tags with no attributes end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/782">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► someone says well I also want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/787">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► links ok well here's a new syntax for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► you to make links put this thing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► and put that over there and you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► and you end up inventing your own little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► language and one of the earliest one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► those is BB code I don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► yeah one that for for doing like the PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► I don't think PHP BB was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/807">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► there's a whole series of bulletin board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► software like forums where you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► would put a post and someone else put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► suppose someone so forth and appears on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► a page and they didn't want you to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► any HTML for these same reasons that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► have our own syntax which has grown to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► this gigantic monster so you know HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► uses less than a greater than but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► used left square bracket and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► square bracket it's totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► and when you want to do a link in BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► code its left square bracket you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► URL equals your URL right square bracket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► blah blah I is less square bracket I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► write square bracket and you know do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► same thing with the ending tag left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► square bracket slash I right square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► bracket to do with italic it's so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/839">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► specified but had square brackets was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► totally different so it was safe in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► you could you know you weren't letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► people write HTML but you still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/851">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► go through and find all the square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► brackets and replace them with the HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► and so on and so forth idea the idea was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► that that would somehow safer than doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/857">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► HTML and just whitelisting the tags that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► you were allowed to do because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► know why they thought it was better like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► in practice it generally was because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► they would they knew what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► inserting they were all if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► careful when you only inserted eye tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► B tags and P tags and you never inserted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► any text inside those tags that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► sticking anything weird interior HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► tags and you could just totally disallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► you know and escape but less than signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► and stuff like that so that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► seems safer to them but what inevitably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► happens is the language grows they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► okay if they write a URL tag I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► to let them do name value pairs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► attributes and I'm just going to stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► those attributes into my a href tag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► then once you allow tainted user input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► into your HTML that you're producing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► inherently saver strategy is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► way they started implementing it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► initially safer and make still be so BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► code is very popular lots of variants in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► that this square bracket colon smiley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► whatever like you can do tons of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/919">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► language expanded is probably bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► than HTML at this point with the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► of weird formatting things you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► markdown was kind of like a reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► that where if you're going to pick some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► Gruber I would imagine didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► write in HTML obviously I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/936">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► just done that but you know the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► ones just seemed like too much I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► be read a Coast opposed in bbcode it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► look like it's marked up like it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► like a cube of square practice and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► not it's not nice you couldn't send a BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/951">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► code formatted really complicated thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► to your mother and expect her to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► like oh that's just a nice D mail if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► like what are these square brackets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► these long things all over the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► something like that yeah it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► like text so markdown there's minimal it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► this is what differentiated I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► might have been the first one to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► to reject the notion that I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► create a language that's not HTML but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► lets you do almost everything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► can do in HTML markdown explicitly does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► not let you do almost everything you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► do in HTML I as a very limited syntax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► and the other thing about Mark now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► like since he's using it to his post he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► says well but I'm not trying to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/983">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► concerned he's going to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/989">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► right so it also lets you just write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► HTML in a markdown post you can okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► now I'm going to write HTML right I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► is not it's not a security exploit so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► this is and now obviously once you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► doing that it becomes you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► publishable as is in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► someone can look at the plaintext and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► view it but that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► pragmatic part of the the language that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► you're allowed to write HTML but it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► you shouldn't have to because the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► you want to do 90% of the time there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► some nice syntax for word that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► look fine if you just showed it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► somebody so as I mentioned in earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► I don't like markdown and I use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► people want to hear me explain why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► think you get some exciting thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► not that exciting because it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► markdown as bad everything I described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► makes it a novel and very popular with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► lot of people because it was I it was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► least one of the first popular formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► to take this particular philosophical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► stance about not expanding to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► language to do everything but also allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► you to HTML and stuff like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► that's that's what made a novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► probably you know the popularity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► during fireball and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► or so kind of got that Network effecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► snowballs and lot of people use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► and if you use it and like it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► suits your needs good I'm not going I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► not arguing to try to dissuade you from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► using something that you like but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► explain why I don't use it and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► think that's it I don't think I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► common case or for a lot of purposes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► the common people I think it is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► the best choice like for example for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► Stack Overflow or maybe not Stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► Overflow but there's a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► Stack Exchange sites that are Q&A sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► about other topics besides programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► is that there's a site for bicycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► enthusiasts and they don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► about programming and they shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► expected to know I understand HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► markdown is probably the right level for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► just general type into an input box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► your simple rules you need to know to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► stuff it has enough where a new person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► will eventually learn for example how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► make a hyperlink and they can overcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► that hurdle but if they don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► in the beginning they can just write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► way they normally would and it will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► out fine so why don't like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► reason I like bbcode which could picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► up before with my little rant about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► square brackets is that I already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► HTML and I knew HTML way back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► ah so why would I want to learn your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► other language that's like HTML but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► different syntax and there are 10,000 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► these language that's BB code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► textiles on and so forth it's just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► more thing for me to learn and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► results going to be HTML anyway I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► want to spend the time to learn your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► particular syntax that's mostly true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► BB code mark now it's like what you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► you know this index these are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► you were doing in plain text I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► that in 1992 anyway it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► need to learn anything and you got again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► the philosophical difference where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► is not supposed to be as big as HTML is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► not that much to learn why not just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► markdown the way you want I still find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► myself want to use HTML even for stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► like linking because the big attribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► of markdown lets it be readable as plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► text so you can put little square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► bracket identifies next to the words you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► want to be linked or around them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► whatever and not have the URL that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► potentially giant URL inline in the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► because any time you start getting URLs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► sentence and all of a sudden this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► literally but some big giant URL I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► to get that out of there so it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► footnote type thing and then if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► to see what that links do and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► people would do this in using that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► they typed in plain text they would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► would say if they would make reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► to a particular thing put a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► footnote at the bottom of the document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► there would be a little numbered or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► lettered list of footnotes that say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► the split uh links to here this footnote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► links are there so on so forth because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► people weren't doing HTML and Usenet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► so that's what Mark and DUHS gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► links out of your text uh now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► only important if you expect people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► read your what it is that you wrote with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► the links in and for my purposes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► anything that I do that's that's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► the case even you know said well don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► you proofread what you write as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► discussed on the show by writing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► proofread it by reading the HTML that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► typed i proofread it by looking at VV at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► its preview window or in a browser or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► something like that that's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► because well obviously you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► that because your source is all littered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► up with a href things that wrap on seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► lines you know you can't read it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► why you should use mark now that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► the only reason i read separately read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► separately for that reason we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► before is like when you when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► proofreading your own writing it change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► of venue a change of font to change of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► margins a change where the wrapping is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► and where the word breaks are will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► you find errors more readily for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► if you're missing a word at the very end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► of a line it's very easy to miss that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► when you're proofreading because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► read what you meant to write and quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► your eyes go to the next line and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► keep going but when it rear apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► that's in the middle of the line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► notice that you missed you know what - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► or though or something in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► the line like that and same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► the fonts when you see something in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► proportional font versus fixed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► in a fixed-width font bow and i see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► proportional as it's going to appear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► your mind changes you're able to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► particular advantage of markdown doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► help me and the disadvantage i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► that i find it harder to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► a particular board links to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► links to the right place with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► footnote thing because you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► numbers or you can do words so your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► numbers then you get like the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► thing where you got to leave gaps of 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► or something or make sure you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► repeat a number or what if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► do a different number here i did 1 2 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► but then I got to put 4 right after 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► because I forgot that I wanted to link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► this word so I'm not use number use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► words once use words you start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► it's like all I mistyped this word or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► thought I call this link this someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► number the bottom the document putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► I'm not spelling it right you know I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► rather be able to look it because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► look at the source to make sure my links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► are okay I look at the source and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► you know triple W apple.com slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► displays is where I wanted to link for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► this displays where you know you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► to read the whole URL but just you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► just glance that and see yeah I linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► this word to by thinking linked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► whereas if you have the if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► thing you're linking and the URL that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► corresponds to widely-separated you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► to go back and forth with your eyes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► if we would have splitter in you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► everything like that I find that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► cumbersome and yeah I guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► put the HTML and just mouse over every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► single link and I'll kind of do that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► but I do look at the market ball I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► typing it I just find it easier to while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► I'm typing type the phrase that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► to link and then select it quickly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► do I don't know which of those was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► ctrl command a and BB edit and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► paste in the URL and that it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► does all the age rough stuff for me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► not like I'm typing left square that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► left the the grid in less than signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► manually though sometimes I do do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► there are shortcuts in my editor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► make that not too cumbersome so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► second thing that makes me kind of fuzzy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► on markdown even for the people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► use it is that it has the same problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► that Perl Ruby Python I guess a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► these modern scripting languages have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► that not so much JavaScript because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► JavaScript it's an exception but Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► for example doesn't have a language spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► I don't think Ruby and Python do either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► as in like a formal document that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► give to somebody and they say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► describes language like JavaScript has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► one you know the echo standard this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► JavaScript and you could take that spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► conforms to that spec same thing you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► with seasoned tons of people make C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► compilers is a C spec and I'll see 99 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► whatever if you want to make a c99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► compiler this thing explains exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► you do it and and that it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► independent of the implementation it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► it's a spec disk defined abstractly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► Perl is not perl is an executable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► written in C that when you feed it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► text file it interprets it as pro code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► and it runs and what is Perl like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► lower case Perl prl is the executable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► that runs your stuff capital letter P [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► is the language itself but the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► itself doesn't have a defined spec as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► test suite that comes with a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► couldn't give someone a spec for Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► implementation of Perl and all you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► to know is the spec you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► look at our implementation of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► just need the spec and if you conform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► the spec you will be compliant that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► not true of Perl I don't think it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► of Ruby and Python either they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► they're defined by their implementations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► so markdown as we mentioned it they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► last little thing I quoted it's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► things it's the formatting syntax but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► it's also the software tool and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► that official implementation if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► to find what is markdown it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► whatever ajamgarh is marked down dot PL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► does now tons of other people have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► alternate implementations of markdown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► tons of languages JavaScript and Ruby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and PHP and everything is even alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► alternate implementation in Perl I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► believe and the multi markdown in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► various variants of markdown so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► whole world of things and they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► the word marked down in them but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► don't all behave the same and the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► reason it'll behave the same is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► implementation isn't isn't really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► parser it's just a series a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► expression sort of successively applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► and there's lots of heuristics in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► and you know Gruber changes his mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► occasionally it fixes bugs and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► so forth so markdown if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► define it the only real definition you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► could say it's whatever markdown dot PL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► does that's markdown and that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► changed over time and oh well so saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► that you're going to make a tool or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► something that conforms to mark that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► meaningless unless you say well what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► you mean by that what implementation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► markdown are using and what extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► are applied to that thing it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► it's hTML is the same problem at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► there are a standard specs for that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► that that just bothers me is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► an ill-defined thing and if I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► to build a tool based on it I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► pick my implementation and in my in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► interface that I've set you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► markdown in this box and they expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► that everyone who reads that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► understands to have to explain like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► well it's marked down but it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► this variant of markdown it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► particular implementation if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► you're used to using markdown some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► implementation maybe the thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► differently because there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► weird edge cases and except like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► not I it's not really a deterministic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► type of thing especially over over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► term where you can make form make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► that could possibly confuse and markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► and you could file them as a bug do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► Gruber and say hey when I do this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► thing really should be italic but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► interprets the underscore incorrectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► went in this particular context it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► doesn't make a bulleted list this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► ball blog can you fix that for me and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► he spot fixes your pet bug who's to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► behavior that affects somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► because somebody else are in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► construct it was actually behaving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► different way without having a formal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► spec in a real parser it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► difficult to rely on markdown the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► way you might rely on say you know HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► for point out which is well defined now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► in reality this is not much of a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► because in reality even though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► there's a spec for HTML 4 doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► that everyone's going to comply do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► because it's big and complicated and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► implementations to mark nouns behave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► same way and there are the extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► ones make it clear that I'm not marked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► down I'm marked down plus XY and Z and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► minus PQ n R but it does make me wary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► for example put all my life's work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► markdown format with the expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► that the HTML generated from them today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► will be the same as the HTML generated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► from them tomorrow I would even be wary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► do that even if I was John Gruber and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► controlled the markdown in Poland Asian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► because unless you never change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► market and implementation you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► make some new construct that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► add put it in your mark 10 dot PL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► now realize that it breaks links and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► some of your older content where you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► run it through the markdown generator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► again so I think that's about it for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► markdown like I'm not I'm not anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► markdown or against markdown I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► don't use it because it doesn't fit what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► I do now like I said I'm not I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► completely comfortable in HTML and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► have even know the tool exists like VB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► edit where you can see a real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► preview of the HTML that you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► applications and people like it good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► them it's just not for me well you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► that specs there is no official spec so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► standards of rendering change all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► time I mean the HTML that people wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► to go might or might not look the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► they intended to in a 2011 browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► that's not really an I mean it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► that's a knock against HTML but hTML is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► much more complicated but you could in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► theory let's just say you have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► was written for HTML 3.2 if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► ever wanted that to always display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► correctly you've got the HTML 3.2 a spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► and you could say well according to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► HTML 3.0 spec this is how it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► displayed so in theory you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► know programmatically sale this is HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► 3.2 at the HTML 3 bun to spec I will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► the HTML 3.2 renderer and it will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► change how it looks because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► using a renderer called HTML you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► I'm rendering according to several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► different specs now in practice that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► much fuzzier than that because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► quirks mode and standards mode it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► as granular as like I know exactly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► spec this is so I'm going to fire up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► this particular spec renderer but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► are gradations in there where old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► content is treated one day a new newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► content read another in html5 is treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► yet another way because html5 actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► defines the error conditions and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► like that but with markdown it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► like it's versioned it's not like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► indicating to the parser what version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► like there's no doctype header and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► there's not I don't think the format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► itself is even version so you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► say well I wrote this in 2006 and 2006 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► the current version of the markdown spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► was x y&z so I'm going to parse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► according to those rules you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► mean you wouldn't be content though if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► you just had your own you say ok you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► know what I'm going to use this version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► of markdown and this is what I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► to stick with for all the stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► do and I don't care if they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► implementation later or not this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► I use this is what I use I'm happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► it yeah hopefully your personal use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► that will mostly be ok but even in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► personal use like I said you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► tempted a year later to add some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► implementation in your program you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► like oh actually I just want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► this new format word and you put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► Unicode smiley face around words it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► makes them blink or something and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► not that but like I want to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► do nested lists with a mouse over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► something or like I don't know you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► to add something and you and you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► it you'd modify your implementation not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► understanding that it may possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► change the way things in the past are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► rendered it's also not an issue by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► way if you have markdown source that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► you're generally HTML from the HTML is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► never regenerate it if you're generated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► fine you know but if you're relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► the fact that you can regenerate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► later yeah you could read you regenerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► it would look exactly the same then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► need some sort of comprehensive test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► suite to make sure that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► without a spec for languages like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► zebra HTML which has a spec and all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► know it's very difficult to define like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► the markdown wants to be sort of do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► I mean and that's why it is the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► is pearls is a similar type of way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► want it to just kind of like read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► mind right so it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► write down a formal spec but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► you the easiest formal spec to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► implement is the one that doesn't behave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► nicely the one that just behaves like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► machine like though that's stupid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► not what I want obviously when I do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► I want it to be this but when I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► you know if a human looked at they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► tell so why can't you tell and you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► well if we just define it one particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► way it's really easy for the machine to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► implement and they said that's a crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► format I'm gonna use markdown because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► that's what I want those are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► dangerous things to modify because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► that do what I mean is them and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► exceptions and special cases and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► like that like look at the marking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► that PL implementation you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► comments in there and stuff that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► like it could of showing that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► trying to work it's trying to be ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► inside so that the outside is beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► it's one of those that a programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► motto that the idea that when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► writing a library you are going to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► the most horrendous horrible like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► structure it weirdly it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► community so that the users of your API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► don't have to see this ugliness like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► you're going to do all the sand we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► checking and Marshall everything and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► on and so forth where you know you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► a wall and you say I'm going to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► you what looks like a magical service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► and inside I might have to do some ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► things but you don't have to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► them as just that's my problem you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► series of those layers you get a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► nice tool so you want your tool to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► that for you you don't want to the tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► to say I am Lisp you can use you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► parentheses and anything else you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► to build on that you have to build up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► from zero you it's nice to have tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► that do all these fancy things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► inside for you but those are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► difficult tools to modify it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► easier when you push that onto the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► user to modify them and be sure you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► not changing the way it will behave down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► the line again none of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► should be there's a like oh this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► you shouldn't use markdown if markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► works for you to definitely use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► it does have a lot of qualities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► those other past formers I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► anything about textile knows I looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► the briefly they seem to not have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► philosophy that the thing should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► readable as is if you can mail the tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► mom so I think that's still definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► distinction of markdown you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► know in the chat room says that Python [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► does have a language spec Ruby does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► and if anything that's a knock against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► Python other alternate implementations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► of Python then I mean there's alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► implications of Ruby but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► it's not based on a spec but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► they're just based on let's do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► in the real Ruby well the defect that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► facto implementation is is the one Matz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► did that's just the consider that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► said there are multiple inflammations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Python that's interesting I see that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► a knock against Python easy DNS comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► since 1998 easy DNS has been helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► people register web address transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► domain set up the email forwarding in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► course manage their DNS now listen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► is this is my advice in take it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► recommend you decouple your DNS from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► from your your especially if you use one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► registrar's which by the way I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► there's nothing wrong with that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► recommend you de couple your DNS from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► that D couple your DNS from your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► hosting provider not because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► do a good job that's fine but one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► you may say you know what this host has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► been an excellent host for the last five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► years but you know I'm ready to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► something different I it it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► little bit of a challenge to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► your DNS and to control that migration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► if your previous host is running the DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► especially if they're running it for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► and it's out of your control oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► here you say this is where you say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► I don't know I don't want to learn DNS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► don't want to worry about how to and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► just I'd like that simple form will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► easy DNS has all that to and the genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► is here you can switch hosts you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► switch registrar's you can do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► you want completely independent of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► DNS that you control it you control with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► a simple form or you can have them help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► you do it real people answer the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► when you call then don't read scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► they just want to help you with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► problems they just want to help things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► easy DNS comm / 5x5 and you will learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► more about special deals and and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► general good stuff for 5x5 listeners so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► that's easy DNS comm / 5x5 and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► what I should mention this too they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► probably way more secure and way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► reliable and have way more redundancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► than pretty much anybody else out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► provider so go check them out love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► implementations of Python page that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► posted in a thing and I should be these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► from back in the day yeah cuz yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► used to do Python no it was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► first languages to get try to get on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► of the JVM and that ironpython and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► python Frenette and all that business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► yeah although this page they linked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► me they said it was the language spec it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► looks just like a reference to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► there's a difference between a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► that explains the language like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► reference and and a spec for implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► implementers you know what I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► the I don't know this helped the ECMO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► scripts standard it's not you don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► that when you want to learn how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► program in JavaScript you read that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► language reference looks like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► written for people who want to learn how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► to write Python it's not written for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► people want to learn how to implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► Python huh I guess it's a fine line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► it does look reasonably comprehensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► but the implementation one is filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► with like all those HTML spec w3c things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► of like implications must do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► should do that in this case you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► this is this case is undefined and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► and so forth whereas this is like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► want to write Python here's the syntax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► here's I use these different constructs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► but the purpose isn't putting there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► multiple mutations again it's multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► imitations of Ruby as well usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► running on top of different VMs like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► JVM or CLR and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► there's other things as well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► people try to write I probably done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► few times dude I tried to rewrite it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► C++ or do alternate C implementations or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► write a version of it that runs on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► of other type of VM environment some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► them been successful now Perl 6 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► different Perl 6 doesn't have a spec so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► much as it has it's decided that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► definition is we're going to make a test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► suite and if your language passes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► test suite you are officially Perl 6 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► and your implementation can be whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► you can write it in you know read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► JavaScript you don't care you pass the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► test week you are considered Perl 6 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► that's a different way to go at it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► like we can't be bothered to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► language spec we're going to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► language reference but our spec is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► humongous test suite and I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► implemented as well like how do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► tell they've done it successfully well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► they probably have a series of tests or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► the test suite from the language itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► and I said well we'll run the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► implementation of Ruby or Python against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► it and them over on our thing and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► we get the same results I remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► was awhile I was exciting when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► first Ruby implantation that wasn't MRI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► that wasn't Matz's Ruby interpreter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► was first able to run rails because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► the beginning when they were it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► of infants that like well it's Ruby but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► we can't quite one we're and rails yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► because we we don't have this corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► case exactly the same way as the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► interpreter doesn't and eventually to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► get up to speed was able to run rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► was a big day big day for the rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► community yeah that a long time ago yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► live feels like not that long but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► Ruby nice was that the first one to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► it no I don't like say just saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► would be a maglev has got the best name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► it's a cool name all right so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► markdown OC I thought that'd be wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► that bad I was not exciting yeah I I for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► the record do use markdown I use textile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► as well no it doesn't really matter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► me do you when you use the the mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► nothing do you ever have this problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► I've tried use markdown a few times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► this was maybe goes away after user for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► all the thing of like keeping track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► what links to where since they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► separated in the footnotes does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► ever bother you at all I'd well see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► don't do it that style I do inline links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► yeah so once you're doing inline links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► that argues is like well the line I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► write especially again you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► gotten into all the little keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► shortcuts the BBEdit does a baby yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► has a big set of shortcuts then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► define for a quickly adding markup like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► yourself obviously there's menu commands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► and palettes and all that stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► BBEdit for doing markup but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► slower than typing in most of the cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► what you really need to do is eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► figure out what are the six or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► tags or constructs that you use most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► frequently and assign them to keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► shortcuts and eventually those keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► shortcuts get drilled in and that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► so much faster than right and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► you do the same thing with markdown but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► again once I start once I start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► I'm like why aren't I just writing HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► because now now it's unreadable to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► now I can't look at I have no chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► looking at it in mine well Stan Siddhant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► it's an interesting argument that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► make but you also kind of have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► assumption that people are always and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► you know what I think you're right by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► the way this is probably an accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► assumption to make most of the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► the assumption that you make is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► people will be using the same tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► configured the same way everywhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► they go so that means if they have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► know one one computer that they do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► configure everything and it's just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► to work great but what if you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► Windows machine of work and an iPad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► you travel around with and a Mac at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► and an iPhone with you and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► you may want to write in a consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► way across the board doing you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► not again I'm not I'm neither a defender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► something like that where you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► to set up and remember and I'm the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► customizations I can make to my in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► development or writing environment the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► better so you would find on my machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► there is ZERO customization there's zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► keyboard shortcuts that I've done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► one exception I would I like for either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► launch bar or Quicksilver which you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► me using again I either one of those I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► like it to be command space so I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► disable the built-in command space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► spotlight activator just by unchecking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► the box that's like the only slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► keyboard related modification that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► implementation that's it I don't do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► application specific keyboard commands I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► don't have triggers I don't have macros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► I don't install services why not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► save so much time why because I can sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► down at any computer any time whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► they're one of the dozen computers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► this office or my mom's computer my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► wife's computer whatever and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► essentially the exact same environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► so I'm going to take the burden on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► myself if I want to write something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► I want to do markup now maybe I'll use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► textile or markdown or even just HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► I will type it all I remember I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► doing a screencast for Jeffrey gross and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► Bach and I was typing out the HTML while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► I was filming and he says oh you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► really just you don't let let textmate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► do that for you don't type it out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► know textmate has the things built in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► you type you thing he's like why aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► you doing that like not like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► stupid you should do it but just he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► curious and I said you know I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► them in practice I don't ever use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► in practice and he's like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► one of the big time-saver is a text - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► yeah but you know for me I just I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► I'm old-fashioned but I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► portability I'll take the burden on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► myself mentally mentally rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► take the time to create all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► things because if I were to then go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► sit down in front of a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► vanilla machine which happens to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► frequently regularly then I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► man where my keyboard shortcuts I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► set all those up oh I don't have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► these dot files they use etc whereas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► just walk over there sit down and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► typing and it you know if I if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► going to go through markdown I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► everything I need to know about that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► HTML so you think of the situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► you could be that happens to me be them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► the most primitive situation you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► possibly be in where you are without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► environment it's like the worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► there that's me every day that the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► where you where you have most the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► possible impediments to your efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► right every day that's and that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► you want to work all the time not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► how I frequently find myself what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► doing is you're finding this illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► that you can use in the least efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► situation like your level efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► you're pushing you say that the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► case scenario I'm gonna live like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► all what you know what could be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► artificially to the worst possible case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► scenario so that it's consistent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► sounds about right because I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► in that situation very frequently I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► often using a computer that's not mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► or that's not set up or they can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► set up or that doesn't have BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► auditors and the other thing is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► something if the mark that argument only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► works in that case if every source that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► understands markdown if it doesn't then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► you then you're constantly in need of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► the two of you know markdown PL or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► other tool that converts your markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► page true that's true or you just type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► it in HTML I think it's important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► know how to use the default emulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► how to get into VI yeah but you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► fit first rapping you wouldn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► frustrated using VI oh right but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► how to do it like if I'm on a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► that doesn't have Emacs I can use VI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► bindings from from back in my days in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► Emacs but I know what the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► bindings are so if I'm a customer Xin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► don't have to but I don't want to lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► my efficiency to that well because 99% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► of the time I'm working on my one home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► computer in one more computer and I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► in the time at a time to set them up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► yes I think I think we should say makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► more sense I'm just yeah yeah I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► that's your average your if most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► time you're not on a computer that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► you know you're on a strange computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2698">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► then yeah you just have to that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► I deal with it I just don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► configuring your environment to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► although here's the one case that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► mentioned that I think is uh definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► real if I'm typing on an iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► where I don't have a real keyboard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► do not want to be type in HTML and iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► device cool shoot yourself in the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► so markdown is like are anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► you want these against them anything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► better than that so yeah definitely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► an iOS device it suddenly becomes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► shifted characters no you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► do them even putting little stars for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► markdown it's a paid but P tags forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► it never likes just it's impossible you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► know so in that case I would definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► say if there's a that's like an ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► environment for a minimalist you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► very few formatting characters I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► have to type anything the type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► right and who knows maybe group is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► a lot of us posting for my pets these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► days are pecking stuff out in this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► know I know uses his phone waiting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► lot of stuff store this is part of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► cover he probably wouldn't you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► some I've figured out over over over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► years I've known him is he'll go on he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► goes on fit I mean like I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► went on vacation he's on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► technically how can you tell how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► can't tell because what he does he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► his eyes like was a vacation he's well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► can't argue that but he's he's out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► he he'll be out there you know on a boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► or wherever he is and he'll be he'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► posting so I guess it's not really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► same kind of vacation and people take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► when they completely turn everything off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► its travel he's away from his house he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► traveling he's traveling and under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► guise of but it's all secret you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► really know it because he's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► posting links and everything he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► does it from his phone and once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► while you can catch him once here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► you know if you want to get really fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► this is how you can figure out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► secret little secret I can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► when he's when he's gone is if if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► really on top of things and you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► links on the show pondering fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► once in a while one of them it'll be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► mobile version of the website instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► the regular version they'll be like MDOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► whatever you know you'll see that you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► look at you look at your browser like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► why does it look like crap oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► giveaway that he's posting on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► he doesn't done that in a while but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► know does get the autocomplete me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► was another thing if you look for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► autocomplete autocorrect yeah things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► although with Lion now get a washout on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► my quest any month becomes less of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► differentiator so there's something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► I want to talk to you about I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► may have other things on this list I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► didn't but God well let me do the we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► do our second sponsor it's MailChimp we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► love MailChimp these are these the easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► email newsletter guys and they will help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► you design your newsletters they'll help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► you share them on social networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► they'll help you integrate with services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► you already use and they track the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► results it's like this is their term but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► I like it they call it a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► publishing platform that's what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► and here's the thing I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► they do this and I've said this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► mind-boggling to me twelve thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► emails per month every month for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► forever so you can you can do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► can send twelve thousand emails a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► I know I don't know how this is free but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► it is free you can check them out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► there's never been a better time to sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► up than right now I think they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► acquired tiny letter dot-com which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► basically it was like mailed it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► MailChimp had in their arsenal of tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► which was like tiny little letters for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► like small individual things as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► to stuff for companies they got them now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► they're in there now so you can go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► that out mailchimp.com love those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► big supporters of the show to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► something is this just came out it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► you know we don't really talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► rumors and this isn't like a rumor show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► uh but the this rumor came out and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► bloomberg is running in there I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► sure usually a pretty good success rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► well the this is all presupposed on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► of a rumor anyway but sprint which is uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► for those who are not in the united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► states it's i think it's a third largest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► us wireless carrier and they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► selling the iphone 5 in mid-october [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► and they have a deal with apple where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► they are going to try and distinguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► themselves apparently by providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► unlimited data service or as you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► say data uh for for their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► differentiator with with sprint so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► is all you know supposed and stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► there was a question that came up on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► of the one of the previous shows one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► the other shows i did i forget if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► the one i did at the talk show with john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► or if it was with marco but we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► talking about Sprint the Sprint is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► CDMA technology just like Verizon right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► I think so ok so you know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► because you're like a you know fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► engineer whatever is there a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► CDMA radio then I heard you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► different radio versus just tuned is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► like you go in your car and you turn you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► turn tune the radio from 98.7 to 101.1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► the only thing I know about si am I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► suggest I was what I learned and as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► undergraduate ages ago so CDMA little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► van code division multiple access and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► has to do with the the signals being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► sent and each receiver decodes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► according to their code that's assigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► to them to get their signal out from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► mix of other thanks I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► what GSM does I think it's packets and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► think it doesn't use you know will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► seven different signals combined them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► receiving end they'll be differentiated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► from each other but what it comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► to for GSM versus CDMA is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► different chips in there it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► the pic they call it the radio it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► thing that does the radio transmission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► electromagnetic waves through the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► and interpret them and get data out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► it and the chip that does that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► different now what you were asking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► marco was among CDMA things the CDMA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► from Sprint different from CD maybe from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► something else like I imagine it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► be because the code division multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► access could use a different set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► codes or a different frequencies or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► other things could vary not you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► technique is CDMA but everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► about it could be different is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► software settable thing the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► would turn a radio dial or is it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► car to use them do they notice all do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► they all use the same frequencies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► don't know if they use vector so if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► use different spectrum obviously you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► different different antenna lengths for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► different frequencies and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► that but really I I was in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► when you were talking about that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► Marco I didn't participate because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► don't know marketed no you don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► don't know we need to get someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► an expert on the cell phone industry so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► that knowing the the vague technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► underpinnings of the technologies tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► you nothing about whether Apple needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► have a different chip now my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► and as Marco as well and as everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► was is that iPhone 5 there'll be one SKU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► motherboard basically they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► different amounts of flash and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► like that so they're going to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► chipset they can do it won't be 4G but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► it can do GSM CDMA everything for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► possible carrier and if there's not one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► chip that does that now like if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► says that you know there's only chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► that does these three carries and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► can't just print two I'm sure they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► one mate because they do not want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► selling a Verizon iPhone or 18t iPhone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► sprint iPhone yeah if they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► if this deal was in the works long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► enough then they should have made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► make sure the iPhone violation ly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► iPhone 5 will do 18 t and verizon with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► the same model but have a chip so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► can do both of those because those exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► if Sprint is different and if the deal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► came around late then they have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► a special sprint iPhone then it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► kind of like the Verizon iPhone where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► like well this is a verizon deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► we've already got our phone at this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► understands your network but then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► next version will fold it in so if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► is a separate sprint phone I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► imagine in the version a thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► would fold it in but Apple wants one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► phone that does all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► things do you think do you think then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► that the letlet let's say regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► whether there's a separate version or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► single version you know you're a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► without an iPhone you've got you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► a lot of iPod Touches render and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► you have no I phone because you we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► gone into this people I'll have to I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► have to look it up but I forget which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► episode of this show you explain why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► there's definitely a difference I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► it was early on I'm gonna I'm gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► it up all we while we do this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► would and that's a great show by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► was it frivolous things yes indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► six about memory them Wow prosaic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► reasons for not owning enough for John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► not owning an iPhone so I'll even put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► this into the link I'll link back it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► be a self-referential link to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► episode six of this show to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► why john siracusa does not have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► iphone would what having an unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► day is unlimited data draw used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► unlimited data back when I decided not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► to get one before everyone got caps so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► do like the idea of unlimited but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► bought a 3G access for my iPad when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► was a wEDC and I there's like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► plans and I did that thing that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► tethering now anchoring where when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► microwave oven for 200 bucks they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► out a model that's 500 a model that's 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► and a mild is 200 and that makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► pick the middle whereas the doctor $200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► microwave you would say $200 it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► expensive so they make a cheap one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► all I want to avoid that one and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► super expensive one and they steer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► to the middle and anchoring is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► $500 one and the $99 one kind of anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► the range in your mind of how expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► microwave should be and it makes it two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► hundred one dollar one acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► microwave you'd be like oh my god this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► $200 is too expensive or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► whatever product or whatever price it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► a common anything like that like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► big-box stores do anchoring is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► for prices I think it's a psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► thing where your expectations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► anchored by these two end points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► then the thing in the middle seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► reasonable so I got that happened to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► when I did pick the 3d data plan from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► iPad to it there was like a cheap plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► and then like a big expensive plan 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► mil and I picked the one in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► because you know I'm human too yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► I really honestly didn't know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► expect because I had never used an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► on the road before and I didn't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► much data I would use I forget what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► was it was like who knew that it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► susceptible to these marketing weddings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► yeah well you know it happens but so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► forget what it was maybe it was two gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► or something like that but whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► was I use such a tiny fraction of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► granted it was only for a week but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► on that thing all the time I watch Game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► of Thrones i Netflix on it in hotel room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► wasn't like I was trying to be bent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► conserving my bandwidth and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► even come close to using like 2% of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► I don't even though everyone's capping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► and stopping the unlimited plans unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► my home connection where I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► need to have unlimited biggest you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► I'm dealing like backup things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► sending gigabytes of data up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► backup services online I could burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► through my home bandwidth but Wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► even if I'm watching TV shows I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► maybe I ever watch like 5 TV shows every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► single day I would burn through it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► I'm not too worried about hitting any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► the caps so no I'm limited data is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► draw for me which is tougher on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► backbone of the cell providers is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► tougher to do data or is it tougher to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► do voice or is it the same is it in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► isn't isn't voice converted to data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► transmitted the same way these days in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► evitable everything will be converted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► networks have separate channels for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► voice it's not so I knew in in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► cases it's not as if you have to pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► elves to carry your bits through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► voice network and pay a separate set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► like it doesn't cost money to to push a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► bits through they're not rocks right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► you have to pay for the electricity run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► your equipment right and yes it does use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► slightly more electricity when data is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► going through it and when it's not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► it's not like carrying rocks or pumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► water that's why it's good to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► carrier you know the equipment and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► infrastructure costs roughly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► whether it's being used at 50% capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► or 60% capacity but you get 10% more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► money B if you're if you're metering it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► so the incremental cost of carrying more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► data is very small so that's what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► how they make their money now they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► infrastructures you have wires and rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► old machines and their electricity bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► have to be huge like but what a would R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► in other words my question is is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► somehow more difficult or more costly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► for them to provide unlimited voice ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► then it would be with data or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► equally the same challenge the same cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► if they have a legacy voice Network and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► all their voice data is going I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► think anybody's at that case as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► transmission is going to probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► that voice change into data because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► there are peering agreements with young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► days of having a separate analog voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► channel and then connecting to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► where it literally doesn't cost them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► anymore where the wires or use or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► are probably gone this what they have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► this historic pricing structure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► separates voice from data and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► something that people are used to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► they are going to lean on that to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► them as much extra money as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► despite the fact that it becomes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► increasingly poor match to the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► infrastructure so I don't think any time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► you see a pricing move about voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► versus data there's I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► this day and age is ever any actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► reasonable technological underpinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► for that it's all about what can we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► away with charging and how can we shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► our user base around in terms of who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► able and willing to pay more money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► what right nothing to do with how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► it actually cost them to provide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► eggless I get I guess unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► trying to ditch all your old hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► like you're going to go to data only you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► want to push everybody onto 4gb 4G [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► network infrastructure is better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► want actually burn your old stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► sell the copy or whatever just get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► of the old stuff and just go all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► fiber or something then you could try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► push people towards your new plan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► there actually is a technological end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► reading for that but I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► anybody is doing that I think these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► infrastructures you evolve over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► infrastructure with new one it's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► evolution where you replace some old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► equipment and put it some new equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► on as you get a show about someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► actually knows this stuff because we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► have questions about it but none of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► are really in that field yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► hoping I was hoping you would know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► didn't you design antennas at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► four so no well I did do a wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► thing as my senior project but I did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► software part of it oh you ever did one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► of those robot competitions where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► build a robot and they fight fight the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► other robot no but wouldn't that be cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► you know what I would not like to enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► one of those with you as father and son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► father-and-son team yeah so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► know really do rather than those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► those bad you don't have a battle bots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► and battle lots sure here not that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► of had like the chainsaw but what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► do over in Japan where they do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► little Taekwondo moves or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► jujitsu whatever it is plane trumpets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► and do fan dances yes yeah I mean what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► punch each other nonk each other down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► punch each other nonk each other down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► as opposed to the ones that we have here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► in the US which is like this one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► like a bandsaw inside of it and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► has a drill that flips the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► over and you know stabs its underbelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► that's not as interesting to me is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► kind that's it's more like I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► knocked the other guy down but somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► that's more respectful so the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► always wanted to do as a kid was based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► on this a Nova episode that showed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► undergraduate course I'm sure it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► there and the beginning of the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► you get a box full of parts and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► gets the same box below I've heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► this yeah yeah yeah and then they define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► a challenge whatever the challenge might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► be like the November the Talon was who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► can get their ping-pong ball at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► of this this ramp that two-sided ramp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► looks like a big triangle right and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► it there or something so that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► competitors would they've got to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► the device that would start at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► bottom of the ramp and they would both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► race towards the top of the ramp going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► towards each other and they'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► drop their ping pong ball in between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► lines at the top of the ramp and prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► the other guy from doing the same and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► those are the only parameters of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► competition you're giving a box of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► there was like motors and chains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► gears and plastic and a machine shop too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► to mess with it in and electric supplies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► and tools and so on and so forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► your finished thing had to fit within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► some volumes on particular invisible box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► and that was it and that's that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► would want to do because that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► kind of like if first of all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► smaller scale nobody can get hurt it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► not that complicated don't have to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► like a robot ape or anything like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► can build anything you want if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► to build a robot ape yeah or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► anything Kapil you with articulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► fingers and it's got a run on its own or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► it's flying or whatever this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► anything you can build it can do this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► you want to build a giant crane right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► now that moves over or you want to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► something that's really fast and shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► underneath somebody you want you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► build something that drills through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► platform and and you know comes out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► know whenever you can bill obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► other things are not possible because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► all the parts they give you but everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► starts in the same playing field and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► know you have to make good design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► choices and then implement them well I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► always want to take course like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► I didn't go to MIT so I didn't get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► know we could we could do our own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3718">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► here with as part of the show or we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► this well the best part of that course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► is you do it when you're in school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► you don't have a job I think it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► challenging to do if you do have a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► yeah say all right it goes but less fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► I think you get to more fun call in sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► but they had like a whole semester to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► the background you kids dad but robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► Freddie I'm sick I gotta go I bet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► have little kits like that for kids to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► where they just give you a box of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► and you have to build something but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► really gonna erector set no like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► a commercial leg learn I'm an MIT chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► verse a you're having a kid's birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► party you give everybody a box of parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► at the beginning of the kid's birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► party at the end they have to see whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► thing can climb up the wall the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► or lift a weight the highest or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► kind of like a thing you do with eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► where you drop them off the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► building right where you have to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► the device that will keep your egg cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► crapping cracking when it's dropped from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► the top of the school that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► I'll be the grade school type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► where you get unlimited supplies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► construction paper or whatever and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► have to build something to protect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► we never had that in my school we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► what we did have was the thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► had to carry around a sack of flour and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► pretend it was a baby and I'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► what I have two kids know that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► nothing like having a real baby yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► was so excited about having a baby well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► you know look it's gonna be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► sack of potatoes you sat down or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► know whatever but it's not like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► need things all the time they need food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► and whatnot attention you know turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► out to be much harder than a sack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► flour Karen if you accidentally leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► in your locker at school it's not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► deal yeah couldn't leave it there if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► gets poked the flour starts to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► did you ever do that no I'd seen it done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► on television there's no fun trust me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► you know what you don't want that class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► I had one more mini topic LaDonna I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► this is kinda an article that was on Ars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► Technica that I kept sending the Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► that I cannot believe he hasn't linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► yet my one of your articles no no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► just an article it looks like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► right up his alley this is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► type of thing that Darrin fire wall post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► and I'm sure he will eventually get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► it he has this strange I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► it's like an intentional like doling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► of data or a period of time so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► doesn't get all bunched up or he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► has a really long backlog because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► doesn't get to things but this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► story by Peter bright about Intel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► three hundred million dollar initiative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► to get PC makers to build what they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► have you ever heard that term before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► Ultrabook all Ultrabook this is okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► hi oughtta gets basically gets killed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► whatever ultrabook comes up and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► like listen I feel really bad about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► I'm gonna give you this little thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► you hit this button you got it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► gotta hide because people don't say I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► show up I'll take over for y'all save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► the world whatever you sort of go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► suspended animation but if I spend too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► long on the earth I'm gonna start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► weak and everything the Sun you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► probably going to happen a lot that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► No so then I'm unfamiliar with Ultrabook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► is I know if it's intel's term or just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► it's basically thing like the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► Air ultra poke is like a really thin you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► know as light as it could possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► really cool sleek looking laptop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► Apple made the MacBook Air and PC makers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► I've tried to make like a MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► look like so and so forth but Intel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► whatever reason is trying to encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► PC vendors to to make something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► competitive with Apple's laptops and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► just in terms of thinness and power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► stuff like that but also price and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► this story was the title of this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► you look up the yeah oh my god can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► fly my window so just this story was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► right so it's Intel's three hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► million plan to beat Apple at its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► game they're trying to get PC makers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► make a laptop as good as the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► uh and the interesting part of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► is that historically Mac's have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3958">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► like more expensive yeah they're cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► and sleek and expensive and cool-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► but they cost twice as much right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► here's a case where the PC industry is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► thus far failed to make a laptop that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► looks as good as Apple's this is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and sleek and made of high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► materials and so on and so forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► it's also cheaper which is is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► historically being the case usually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► can match Apple or if they don't match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► up on quality it's like yeah well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► not quite as nice as a Mac laptop but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► well that doesn't happen with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► ultrabooks and it goes into all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► reasons why like the PC vendors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► interchangeable parts so for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► different choices for Wi-Fi cards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► word it's like a little clipping thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► so once you start sticking stuff onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► the motherboard then you can't make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► really thin anymore gonna make really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► thin you got to have one motherboard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► everything's soldered to it you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► put the 2.5 inch SSD in a MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► carriage small fit so you have to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► disembodied thing and it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► sort of custom-made of your thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► everything Apple makes is custom fitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► to this case like if you look inside one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► of Apple's devices it's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► spare room hanging around batteries or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► custom fit so and so far whether the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► makers they don't want to make a custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► battery they want to have you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► interchangeable series of batteries they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► can use in a variety of laptops because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► they have 8,000 different models and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► you have 8,000 different models you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► don't want to have 8,000 em kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► batteries because then you're your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► economies of scale go down and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► to deal with inventory management and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► on so forth so it's like the PC industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► completely integrated everything exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► fits everything is custom-made things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► because even if it's a best-seller it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► not going to they stop so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► products whereas Apple makes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► two kinds of MacBook Air 13 inch and 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► inch with a couple little details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► can change the inside but that's it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► sell millions and millions up the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► part of the store was that this Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► bright was trying to look at to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► himself a laptop that wasn't a Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► that was as good as a MacBook Air so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► goes to the various websites like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► they'll calm and HP calm to try to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► himself one and he's fighting with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► websites I don't know if you ever gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► to them but like they give you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► strange way to pick what you want it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► like are you a home user are you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► super-duper user are you you know are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► you small-business special enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► users like just I want to pick a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► I don't know you know they make you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► in through these strange you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► divisions and you're always thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► screwing you it's like well if I go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► through the high-performance link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► they're going to screw me but I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► through the other lengths because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► are the people have more money or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► enterprise people get cheaper prices or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► they get more expensive prices or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► don't you know so you end up getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► this big configurator thing that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► 8,000 options and you can put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► screen in this laptop with this Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► card and this thing and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► sometimes the options aren't clear it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► like what's the difference between this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► screen and that screen why is this 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► bucks more expensive it doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► explain what the difference is just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► many options and the websites are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► horrible and you never know if like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► machine you configured is going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► there if you've got the best deal or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► it would have been smarter to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► start from a different model and upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► the CPUs and start for the better CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► modeling it's just a horrible buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► experience so this is kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► chickens coming home to roost on the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► industry we're finally pcs have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► changed so much from the interchangeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► box of parts that they used to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► that was an advantage when your PC was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► like a near PC XT or PC 80 case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► you could pick your motherboard but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► hard drive pick how many floppy drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► you want pick the the video interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► you want pick the case pick everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► about it and configure it and the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► vendors were set up to have bins of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► parts and build you your machine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► that or have a couple of presets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► switch things in and out but now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► things are really small and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► compact and become more like appliances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► that's not an advantage to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► assemble your machine from little parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► because it's going to look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► something as skinny as a MacBook Air you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► have to have custom-designed battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► custom-designed SSD custom screen custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► hinge custom case custom everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► can't have share any of those parts with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► me maybe you can share the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► which Apple shares with the always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► laptops which I think I've complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► about before the ridiculousness of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► same keyboard being on a 17 inch laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► with those big empty areas around but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► anyway I'll put the link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► notes I highly recommend people read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► this it's kind of exactly the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► thought Gruber would link is because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► loves to make situations where previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► advantages of PCs and now are huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► disadvantages and especially stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► like you mean there's not a PC that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► this size and it's cheaper even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► a little bit crazier quality you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► people argue and they do argue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► comments like well you can find one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► that's the same price or close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► same price but it's like well doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► have this it doesn't have bad or it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► it doesn't have this Bluetooth interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► but it does have this different video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► card but this has you know DVI out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► Thunderbolts but you can kill yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► forever trying to do price comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► but the bottom line is that it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► be trivially easy to pick any Mac of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► spec and find a cheaper one in the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► business and now with the case of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► small devices is not and the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► competitive tablets it's the same type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► of situation it's a really skinny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► with custom everything inside it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► the tablets that are as fast as the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► and forget about software forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4258">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► the fact that is is better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► other OS is where the tablets that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► as fast as the iPad and cheaper faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► same price faster at a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► price sure but you don't find ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► are like well I can get you under half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► the price is just as fast in my pad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► can't then of course the OS makes a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► difference anyway even if you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► an Android Tegra 2 thing that's faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► you don't want to use that over an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► I mean on paper and every faster but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► practice it's not going to be as nice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► interesting turnaround from the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► of PCs HP getting out of the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► doesn't want to build pcs anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► the people who are building them Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► has to throw money at them to try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► competitive with what Apple's doing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► not a technology thing it's just a your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► business is structure the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► you're making us look bad and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► restructure our business we have to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► a bazillion models because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► businesses want but and consumers don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► like a tough luck but if we make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► custom model for consumers and we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► it really cool and sleek and not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► people buy them we just really take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► huge loss on that because we need custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► tooling all these custom parts just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► this one line of products for consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► and if it's not a hit because it's eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► million other competitor products and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► don't you know stand out enough where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► was interesting and up or it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► another Windows machine now we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► to lose money on the deal that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► haven't made them not like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► have smart people and done out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► technology it just doesn't fit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► their with their business model and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► maybe that business model is going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► of fashion it may not be viable in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► consumer space for a long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► because like what's going to happen five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► years from now when all laptops are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► basically look like the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► they're all skinny and custom and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► and so forth like you as things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► smaller your ability to use to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► reusable parts across the line start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► diminish yeah I know I think they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► make all their laptops like my cuppa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► garrison screw the business thanks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► that's that's the whole of the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► about Microsoft fruits we'll save that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► for another week I'll be a good one does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► that mean we're done I think so how come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► I never heard your your mic breaking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► did you unplug it while I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► that's what I do it's good for those who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► don't know we usually edit it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► usually right about the 60 minute mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► at exactly 16 exactly 60 minute mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► John circ uses a headset mic which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► a posture thing going I he his thing go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► out it'll go out it'll sound like crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► he'll turn into a transformer yun plugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► and now he's gotten so good that he will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► wait until the right moment right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► around the 60-minute mark when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► blabbing about something - no I do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► any commercial break I mute and well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► non-blue that's the part where you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► to ask me something and I plug it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► in here in the middle of saying right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► John yeah well you make it you make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► yeah but we will do we will do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► Microsoft topic we need to did your sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► plug no okay you'll never know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► muted when it happens okay here all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► right every comic books not coming what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► god but you watch the Game of Thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► thing I do I missed one of the episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► I'm catching up on it now it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► one it's a good series we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► talk about your we get to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► that cuz I know you're in large I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► whole incomparable episode on speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► of part of what episode I'll check that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► one has that in recent one I they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► like three or four episodes back I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► know it since I'm not in every episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► of the incomparable I lose track of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► so weird out that you're not this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► we're couldn't hand like they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► stuff they talk about comic books for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► example and I don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► comic books so how could I be on kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► quick episode I think it'd be need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► get your take on it whether you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► followed or not you seem to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► opinion I enjoy hearing your opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► about everything like example we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► do a show with here why you don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► let's move put that down journaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► cares why take a looks alright so listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► we're gonna wrap this thing up if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► want to hear more from Jon and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► should you should follow this movie this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► young man on Twitter at siracusa nosey s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► I'm damned Benjamin on Twitter you uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► you're also on Google+ but we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► can't share those URLs is instead of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► redirection you should set up a domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► but I don't do anything I Google Plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► anyway it's not you're not on Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► calm lead you to you know I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► posting like three four things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► present there's great discussions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► there love that you can you see if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► want to go to my Google+ you should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► to Dan's illa calm that I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► redirected because it the URL is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► so can go to five by five dot TV slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► hypercritical / six and here the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► where John explains why he does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► an iPhone I highly recommend that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► that as well lots of other shows on five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► by five you could go and listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► people are always criticizing me saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► I do not cross promote the shows enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► that shame on me for not cross promoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► show so John what shows I'll let you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► what show should people go there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► listen to which episodes of my show or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► which other shows on five by five goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► so my show you listen to every of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► other sound I knew you would say yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► I I would imagine everyone who listens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► to me already knows about these but yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► you have to listen to talk show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► build and analyze and then for dessert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► you should listen to back to work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► is B that is the trilogy plus Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► alright well thank you for crossed money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► and I would I would also say you I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► cross promote my own show the pipeline I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► just interviewed Aaron Hill guess of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► big nerd ranch guy used to work it next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► an apple worked worked for Steve Jobs at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► that's a good you listen I want you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► did I like that it was good he's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► good guy to come on the show all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► but that's it so we will see you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► next time don't forget to check out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► sponsors easy DNS comm / 5 by 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplQte0g/4615">TS</a>]