00:00:02 ◼ ► this is hypercritical episode number 29 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► this is weekly talkshow ruminating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/5">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► exactly what is wrong in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► businesses nothing is so perfect then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► cannot be detonated by my co-host John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► siracusa i'm dan benjamin would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► supported by easy dns calm and campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► monitor comm who we will tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► so as the show goes on we also want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► mention that bandwidth for this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► is provided by Midas green technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► virtual private server submerged in oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► we got to talk about that some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► like the your take on that but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/42">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► get some free bandwidth we're going to - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► green tech Co now willing to olive oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► it is not olive oil not your kind of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/49">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► of the kind of oil that you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► family have made for several generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► in siracusa Italy which is where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► from I actually wouldn't like to hereby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► I keep hearing that company advertised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► but I haven't checked out the site yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► apparently I've well I've been there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► they have these giant they have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/71">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► giant I wouldn't call them bathtubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► because it's much more professional than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► that but they're their tanks I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► you'd say tanks and in in the tank is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/79">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► this this special kind of oil and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/83">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► certain kind of oil it's I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/89">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► it's mineral oil I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► proprietary oil I don't know but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► submerge the electronic equipment into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► the oil and it works and it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► cools stuff better than air and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/103">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► better than those computers which had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► cooling inside them it's you submerge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► the whole thing and the only thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► have to do if you have like a fan they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► disable the fan because there's no need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► for that to just be spinning in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/119">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► and if they have a hard drive they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► they put the special little coating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► the outside of the drive and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► submerge and it runs forever in there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► was pretty amazing I actually looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► this I actually saw the stuff working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► it's like something you don't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► oh I could just sink a computer in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► and it's gonna work you know I can know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/135">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► I can but it does you should come on out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► you just go I'll fly out here flying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► can't ringing I would love to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/142">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► you should put up some pictures or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► something I probably have some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► website yeah no no - green tech comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► they've got a video and I think it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► great to get you out here and have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/150">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► just sort of we could dunk you into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► into the oil put like a wetsuit on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► and dunk you I'm pretty early as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► who can only imagine how are you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► inherited so how are you were off last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► week you on a vacation last week I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► or was it last week wasn't it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► so long ago it was last week though yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► I guess I came back on Friday yeah last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► week okay it's fun I was it relaxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/172">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► when I came back to work I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► remember the code that I have to punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► in to get in like the security door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► that's how you can tell when you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► good vacation right do you stand around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► out there wait for someone to let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► know like yeah I found myself typing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► zip code and I said no that can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► so I just sat there for maybe three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► minutes and let my brain spew forth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► correct answer the trick is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/201">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► have to not think about numbers but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► close your eyes into the sequence with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► your fingers directionally you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► I mean muscle memory they call that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and that worked you got in and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/211">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► to work and you were actually back last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► week we could have done the show last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► week but you said too much catching up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► to do - now sister just one day I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► just back on Friday so Friday is not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► normal day and yeah I'd to catch up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► stuff okay so people are very upset they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► first of all and immediately if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► ever any change in the schedule faith is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► nodding if there's ever any change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► schedule the slightest change slightest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► or something's 15 minutes later than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► I mean understandably they blame me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► it even when it's not my fault usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► it is so they're right to blame me first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► but they get bad people get very I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► very upset we get a lot of it we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► more email if I was to say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► first computer ever invented was uh them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► you know the Mac LC that was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► computer invented in 1919-20 - and state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► that as a fact I would get less email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► the show was 15 minutes late should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► worried when they don't get upset then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/271">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► know that because they care they do care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► especially your listeners here they love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► you they love when you get stuff wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► yeah why don't we start with that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► doesn't what do you got wrong this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► last week I'm sure I got a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► wrong but this is the one that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► most egregious this I think person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► responded to me here did it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► Twitter this is a Stephen all read or Al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► read okay there's a computer science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► student or graduate graduate graduate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/298">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► King's College in London so last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► talked to last week maybe two weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/306">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► I talked a little bit about what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► with hfs+ sort of going over the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► from my line review linen that I covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► and one of the things that I was and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► that when you have one process writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► to an HFS volume when it when it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/321">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► changes to the file system it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► grab a big global lock and say okay I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► writing nobody else can write and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► parallel you know because on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► core whatever wants to write at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► time it can't because it's blocked by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► that one right it's one writer at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► and HFS+ and that that's entirely true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► horrible that is for concurrency I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► you could probably imagine you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► even need multiple cores because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► could be that just one process has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► lock and then got kicked off the CPU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► another process comes on to the CPU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/354">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► it wants to write but it can't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► the other thing has lock so it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► kicked off the CPU and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► horrible for concurrency even with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► single quorum with multiple cores is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► too and to try to emphasize how bad this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► was I went one step too far and tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► give an example of a raid setup or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► multi disc set up with multiple spindles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► and if you were limited to one writer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► said that that would be a waste of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► capacity of those spindles that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► actually true it really depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► what's managing those spindles if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► traditional raid is managing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/384">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► spindles is pretty much up to the RAID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► controller how to do that for example if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/387">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► you are doing a mirroring raid even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► you have one writer you're still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/391">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► your spindles because you're mirroring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► you know you're right to both sets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► spindles right and there are many raid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► configurations that have a mirroring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► all the different combinations raid 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► sometimes you're writing parity to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► of the drives so that's another instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/405">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► where it's been multiple spindles would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► be in flight so that was a bad bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► attempt to explain the implications of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► only having one right at a time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/413">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► multi-disc setups the number of spindles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► in action at any one time is not limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► by the limitations of the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► it's really up to the controller and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► it's dipping up data so that was a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► example and Steven called me on that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► that was good call only only because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► has an advanced degree do you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► no I didn't know who he was when he sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► information so I would know who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► properly credit but he was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► person who yelled about that if we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► anybody I mean if you if I had heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► same thing on a podcast and had been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► a critical thinking mindset I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► caught myself in that error as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► just a dumb off the coffee example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► really makes no sense if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► it for more than two seconds so my bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► some more follow up remember we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► about the dock indicator lights and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► they change the defaults and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► whether they're on or off in line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► all that business maybe two shows ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► mm-hmm and I made a joke that like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► that they changed the default so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► they're on why even have the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► because who in their right mind is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/476">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► to go in there and turn them off because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► novice user is the vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► users are just never going to touch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► default so whatever the default is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► that's what it is and if you technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► inclined users I've said they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► the ones who are going to want the dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► to be on because if you're that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► techie nerd about this option you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► are probably used to the old way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► doing things you want your dots so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► know what's running and what's not and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► whole bunch of people replied to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► through various means to say that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► actually did go in there and turn that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► option off and every single one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► had this or a similar variant of this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► their explanation they said they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► put non-running apps in the dock so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► everything every application of the dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► permanent citizenship in the dock at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► it just seems crazy to me because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► means when you start up your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/521">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► the only thing in the dock is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► left side of the dock anyway is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► finder icon and nothing else I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► that parently that's how these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► roll and they you know so obviously they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► turn off the dots and whenever any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► piers in the dock obviously it's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► underneath it so the dots are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► redundant noise and turning them off you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► know makes the appearance nicer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► that's that's the way people use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► computers is something I hadn't occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► to me but that's what they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► reason it didn't occur to me is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► it just seems so weird to me not to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► the dock as a launcher at all I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► Quicksilver as my launcher so I guess no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► you're not like a launch bar I would if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/557">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► see I would have pegged you for a launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/558">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► bar she's never shown that yeah I'm I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► do a little side bar and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► this would be a great show I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► that we gotta do it let me just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► side bar in this was it'll take two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► seconds okay I say before I talk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► all right that's assuming that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► mean I don't even ask any questions yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► so I've been a Quicksilver user since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► whenever it first became calm okay wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► what is Quicksilver John oh so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► explain it as far as I'm concerned it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► command space and then you type stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► it presents options to you of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► you're typing what it thinks you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► typing means then when you return it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► does whatever the current option is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► for example if I were to hit a command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► space and type mail M ail right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► had it if you had it configured in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► particular way it could be that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► Apple Mail application icon appears in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► front of you and you say yes what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► actually wanted to do was launch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► mail application you hit returned and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► would launch mail but it could do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► sorts of things when you type mail like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► configure this that's why it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► explain because there's tons of plugins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► and you can configure it however you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► want you can make like the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► things that you're typing into can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► configured in ten different ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► Sunday so it's hard to explain what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► really does and really the reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► became popular I think is because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► that flexibility and because it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► idea that you could do stuff without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► taking your hands off the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► what you wanted to do well it's up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► you if you decide you want to type this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► command space keyboard shortcut which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/650">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► the way clicks overhead before spot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► it existed so spotlight kind of stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► that from Quicksilver you type that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► keyboard shortcut and you type something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► and you and you configure it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► what you type means what you want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► mean and then you know you can hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► return and tab and space and all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► of things like reveal documents or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► make small text and snippets or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► calculations or look at your clipboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► history or just insane amount of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► that you you can do so when I got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► it way back when I decided I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► use it as an application launcher and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► pretty much only as an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► launcher so what I did and continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► do is take my catalog which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► Quicksilver calls the the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► things that it's searching when you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► and pair it down to just applications I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► may be one or two documents that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► open frequently but I rarely use that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► practice because I wanted the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► things that I'm typing you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► world of things that they what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► typing can match to be as small as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► possible so there is less of a chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► confusion now Quicksilver has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/708">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► overrides where you can train it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/714">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► launches Photoshop even though Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► doesn't begin with PS it has P and s in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► it you know Quicksilver will do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► kind of matching for you and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► forcibly make it launch the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► applications that all have similar names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► or something you can say no when I type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► command space you know X Y I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► application so you you only have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► that in the beginning you know once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► train it to your needs and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► you get into a situation where you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► command space a couple letters and hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► return it is by far the fastest way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► launch an application much faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► spotlight in my experience unless maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► you're on a system where it was just new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► out of the box with a newly updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► millions and millions of files like I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► spotlight is not an efficient way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► launch applications especially if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► application happens to have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► name as the contents of a text file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► you use recently or some other thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► world of things that spa like searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► is much larger than in my pared-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► quick slow everything so why not why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► launch bar for example so I've tried all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► the other alternatives at various times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► launch bar launch bar three four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► all the history of launch bar I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► always downloaded and tried it Alfred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► Butler one of the other ones like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► manservant applications there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► bunch of them on that theme but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► I've tried a whole bunch of them I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► think Alfred has come the closest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► development limbo kind of like textmate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► or where the guy who developed it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► off to work for Google and did something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► that also have the initials Q s he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► the Google quick search but it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► Quicksilver I believe with GPL it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► open-source I think and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► it's GPL it might be but it was just out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► there and it was kind of languishing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► then you know Apple would update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► operating system and clicks over would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► get weird and crashy and then someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► would go in there heroically make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► work again so I think now finally the Q [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/823">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► actively maintaining it but for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► there I was searching for alternatives I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► was afraid Quicksilver was going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► away or break and it was flaky for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► while right so I tried all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► ones and the reason I didn't use them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► maybe it's the stupidest reason ever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► it's it's it's my reason it's a valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► reason for me I like the way Quicksilver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/845">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► looks and I like where it appears in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► screen I used the which appearance do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► use then I should say Bozell again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► people love it now the bed the bezel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► appearance yeah which was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► default I don't think that was a default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► way back in the day back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► Quicksilver but the bezel appearance is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► the one I use and it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► transparent rounded wreck with a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► honkin 128 by 128 I think icon of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► application left-hand pane and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► right hand paints is the action you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► going to do to it or whatever when I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► command space I want that to appear dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► center on the on the screen I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► to read any text like I just want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► big icon of the application because as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► type that icon goes flips off a foot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► know as I type each letter that icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► changes really really quickly and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► pinkie hits return as soon as that icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► looks like the thing I want it launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► I'm never reading any words that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► makes it fast to me I want to do command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► space a couple letters which my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► will type without me looking I'm staring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► straight ahead up the middle the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► at a big look picture of the icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► Susy icon appears they return now launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► bar is always up in the upper right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► well in Tirana key it can be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/908">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► middle launch bar right but the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► the middle top the right huh yeah not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► dead center with the big hunking icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► like that Alfred is really close but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► doesn't have quite as big an icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► Quicksilver going is that like I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/921">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► catalog tweak just so with I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► custom you know applications pull out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► the developer folder another random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/926">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► stuff thrown in there and my catalog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► pared down just the way I like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► and it's free and it's open source can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► you design can you support them I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► know you would never never do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► like supply would actually its life but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► if I felt like it would make a dent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► don't think I ever have though I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► would buy you quit over in a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/947">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► I think I almost Watford and remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/948">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► introductory price or whatever but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► never bought a launch bar because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► known that the upper right hand corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► are centered in the middle has not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► nice for me but Alfred is close because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► it does appear in the center it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► have reasonably large icons but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► has a lot of text I don't I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► image centric nature of Quicksilver so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► that's why I keep using Quicksilver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► someday if it goes away or gets bad this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► is there's so many alternatives I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► I'll find one I like but for now I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► Quicksilver and I've just never gone off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► and and I put always put command space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► spotlight shortcut to command control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► space so also is that mandatory ya know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/986">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► all my machines all my family's machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► command space does Quicksilver even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► put Quicksilver on on my parents Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► all the time they've always had it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► operating system they use it believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► surprising once it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► gestures once you actually the learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► curve is huge like if you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► it's there you'll never actually use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► but my parents know if they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► launch something type command space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► had the first few letters and hit return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► when you see the picture you want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► even when they go to a Mac that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► there is this not configured in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► command space still does that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► appears in the spotlight menu and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► you know they figure it out all it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► similar type of thing so 30 30 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► pretty-pretty 30 seconds so is this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► mean what are you saying that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► should just should just go in and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► try Quicksilver and then consider launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► bar I don't know what to suggest for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► other mean you know you're they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► not have these I think the efficiency of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► the big visual appearance of that icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► is tremendous much better than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► prominently or requires any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► reading I know you know how to read is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► not you can just glance and see the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► changing and you're getting the one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► want but I feel like it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► inspiring me John you're inspiring me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► Bandon to sway and switch to launch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► a while back and I haven't even looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► at Quicksilver in like year to year down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► a long time it hasn't changed much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► load is being actively developed again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► but I mean the thing about launch bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1078">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► it's just so much more than what I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► described and so does Quicksilver for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► that matter but launch bar has many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► features for in terms of matching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► documents or recent documents that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► use I think it that Quicksilver and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► these other things also do System [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► Preferences which I do use it for as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► well but if you if you not if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► have such a narrow needs if you did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► just dedicate to using as an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► full-featured and sort of a more stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► or higher quality application as a sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► of commercial supported product then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► Quicksilver which is out in the wilds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► the internet and periodically orphaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► but then picked back up again as open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► source it probably will have a long life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► because as long as people like me are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► addicted to using it some Mon will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► continue to maintain it but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► go out and say oh you have to run quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► so we don't run launch bar on try them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► all and use whichever one makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► you I think most people do that like did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► you go off Quicksilver because you felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► like it was a txt mated you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► partially because I felt like well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► was it was abandoned nothing new was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► going to come out and then launch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► kind of happened and a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► that I knew were saying oh you try try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► launch bar it's less buggy and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► honest for a long time it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► the only changes that were happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► with Quicksilver were focused on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► what I guess you would call visual flair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► like there were a whole bunch of themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► there's like a little cube that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► come out and rotate around as you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► typing and it started reminding me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► whole like Linux community with the e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► window manager for a while or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► that thing was called enlightenment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► it just it you know I said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► computer resources and the machines I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► was using at the time were somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► limited and I thought this visual flair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► all this extra stuff all this stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► mandatory do I need it and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► minimalist aesthetic and it was a steer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► and it was it was nice it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► and it's commercially supported I do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► do like I do like the the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► makes it so I just thought you know I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► do it but I do like what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► about the sort of visual simplicity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► seeing the icons show up as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► typing and and and really odd the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► is I know people like Merlin will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► crazy things with LaunchBar integrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► you know like I know people that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► know for example they'll have and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► think Merlin was even describing this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► a recent show if I'm remembering right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► you know they'll have it set up so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► you can key you know email things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► send you trigger points to emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► application launcher and I realize I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► I'm under utilizing what launch bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► these other things can do but for me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► lot of time I just want a lot I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► want to launch an app you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► sometimes look up a look up look up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► contact from address book Quicksilver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► can do that too right yeah quick stop we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► can do most of the things launch bar can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► assemble from the little LEGO pieces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► functionality you want I always find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► what the ones that do more that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► I've been aggressively paring things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► down and removing plugins don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► removing features because I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► Quicksilver Lee so the contacts were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► part of the autocomplete but I remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► that because if I ever saw a contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► when I was talking about to launch an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► app it would piss me off it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► just want to use it as a launcher the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► only thing I use it besides launching is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► if I want to find that application I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► the get info reveal commands it reveals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► it in the finder mostly because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► going to right-click and show package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► contents or something or like I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► I had that application where was it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► command space type of few things tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► down arrow return for you know reveal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► finder that's that's the limit of what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► do and one or two you know little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► special documents that I have like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► know I know it's file or whatever that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► launch frequently I have that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► explicitly added to the catalog file you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► can go to the Quicksilver catalog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► add specific files that you want to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► and just stick them in there for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► visual stuff I have Quicksilver has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► option that says use superfluous visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► effects or something like that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► hate that I've always had that turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► off always and yeah I did start to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► crazy with like that one of the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► they had was like radial menus where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► would array a bunch of options out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► our goal and you could Mouse to them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► something or use the arrow key I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► never had any of that enables just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► little thing in the middle of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► with icons command space type something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► return that's it but yeah I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► Merlin talking about what he does with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► lunch bar and once more on Quicksilver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► are both very capable of doing that type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► of stuff but that's not what I use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► well okay then all right so I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► really that was a really really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► long but really cool 30 seconds yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► should add Quicksilver on my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► because it's one of the few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► that's been on my max since it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► introduced and hasn't left mmm almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► left but didn't quite well let's do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► quick sponsor then all right we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► not even in we're just haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► scratched the surface of the fu but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► we'll do sponsor anyway it's easy DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► this episode is sponsored by easy DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► comma since 1998 easy DNS has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► helping people register a web address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► transfer domain setup email forwarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► and manage their DNS it's a big part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► what they do now while they doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► they're providing the best support in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► the business when you call them then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► actual live human being picks up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► phone like the phone rings once or twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► and a human being answers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► understand what you're talking about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► they're content to help you whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► are an uber geek like John or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► something basic doesn't matter they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► help you they'll help you do it or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► can do it all in their website which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► pretty darn amazing and they aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► understand the business inside and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► and you don't go around and around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► circles and you can go to EZ DNS comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► slash 5x5 where you can learn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► those and special things we have set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► just for our listeners but why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► John why would you want to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► external a third-party DNS provider for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► example why why not just use your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► registrar and by the way their registrar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► too but why not just use Namecheap or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► GoDaddy or whoever free DNS why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► you want something professional you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► finding good dns providers is so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► you'll if you google for that and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► see people asking about it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► because there are so many bad ones hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► you find a good one stick to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► they are rare and there are tons of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► ones and getting a bad one stinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► stuck with them usually for some period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► of time participate with all year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know these guys are great and highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► recommend them really great interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► transfer your DNS over to them and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► tell you what the power of having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► DNS in a place that you trust in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► that you rely on means you can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► your web host you can change your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► providers you can change all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► stuff but your DNS stays the same it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► stays secure it stays where you put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► you don't have to worry about your DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► going down if your registrar has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► problem or gets hacked or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► these guys are just too great they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► amazing uptime check them out easy DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► comm / 5x5 make me want to change my DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► more I go changing I'm not gonna say who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► my current one is and it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► they're bad because I've heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► horror stories from the bad ones kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► like yeah you know yeah go check him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and I actually I'll get I'll get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► hooked up they would love to have you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► there I'm sure they loved up a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► audience laughing nice I have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► domains this is something that geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► tend to have like we how many do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► have right now right now too many my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► wife yells at me about how many domains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► I'm you're never gonna use that get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► someone else get it she sees the bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► like what is this bill for what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► domain is this she wants to know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► exact domain because they're cheap but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► they add up you know yeah had a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► lot of domains right now I'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► just the ones I have on on one provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► here I have 29 yes on one that's just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► one that's not even on like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► ones like like for awhile I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► GoDaddy I hate to admit it but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► using GoDaddy for a while and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► pretty much moved all the domains that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► care about off of there with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► exceptions like there's a few that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► that I'm just keeping there until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► know until it's like closed expiring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► then before it expires I'll get it I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► get it out of there at least you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► legitimate reason you have business that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► uses domain names I really have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► nothing what do you mean tell me one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► your worst ones that you're keeping for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► undergraduate I have that calm you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► to share and then it's no I do not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► yes see I only have six over it come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► Hemi only six I how many did I say was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► the other one twenty twenty-nine so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► what am I doing with 35 domains don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► make sense hive logic comm that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► makes sense you understand water i buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► 5.2 yeah those are those are important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► but I've got some funny ones let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► me I'll tell you my most strangest one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► have on there I have this is this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► great I see whenever I have an idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► like a cool business name I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► know I'll just all start up like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► Holdings company with the weird business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► name and so I registered the domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► immediately automatic pants not calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► I've had for years I've had that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► registrar's and like I would what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► that business it's nothing I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► started I know but I'd be a fairy like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► automatically get pants I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► just really liked it I had arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► registered mouth of Brooklyn comm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► Marco looking registered registered for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► him and you stole it from him so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► registered it on his behalf if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► ever like it I'll talk about the legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► system works I'll transfer it over him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► should he ever wanted you stole it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► you're a squatter is what you are twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► nine domain names all right let's move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► on something else sign oh my god Auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► termination so there was a story on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► tidbits by Matt Newburgh did you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► I believe I did see that one yeah lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► is a quitter yeah yeah I did read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► one enough the title really fits ah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► so to review for the people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► recall or blacked out since reading my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► line review and forgotten everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► Lion the relationship between running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► applications processes and the visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► manifestations of those has changed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► in the old world that used to be that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► an application was running it had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► Associated UNIX process behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► scenes it appeared in the doc and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► alt tabbed you would see it's the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► on somewhere on the older I keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► alt tab but command tab you would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► its icon there and then we just oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► no your windows history right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► keyboard shortcuts from the the alt-tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► world for Windows so in Lion now there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► are a couple things that can happen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► first is that if an application is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► written in a particular way you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► that it supports Auto termination and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► what that means is it's telling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► operating system if at any time you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► like you need me not to be running feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► free to terminate me and reclaim my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► resources so it's not the line doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► do this two random applications the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► application has to explicitly be written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► to tell Lion that this is okay and line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► uses a heuristic to decide whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► that's something it should do and as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► conservative heuristic where it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► that it can't be any visible Windows for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► you can't currently be using it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► there was some of the criteria that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► can't remember but it's sort you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► it's not like you're going to be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► an application or even looking at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► window and suddenly will disappear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► has to be completely invisible not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► the screen and you're not currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► using and then the if you put the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► under memory pressure for example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► operate system will say okay well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► under memory pressure and here's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► application it's not visible and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► currently being used I will quit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► one now the other feature of Lion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► termination are also supposed to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► although I guess they it's not mandatory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► but the idea is that they should support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► this is the resume feature so that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► the user doesn't realize that the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► quit that particular application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► clicks on at the end to go back to it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► should launch back to its previous state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► so you don't lose anything so all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► open documents is still there you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► have to worry about unsaved changes blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► blah blah so it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► correctly support our termination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► without supporting resume as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► there's another twist on this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► Lion doesn't necessarily kill the UNIX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► process associated with that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► it may leave the process running but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► remove the manifestations of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► application in the UI so it won't appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► in alt tab anymore if you have the dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► turned on it won't have a dot under it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► in the dock but the process associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► with the application is still running so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► the next time you launch it launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► it will simply spring back to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► instantly because it was never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► exited so that what I said in the review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► is that you can have applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► without processes where you think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► running it but really the process is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► gone and processes without applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► where you have a process but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► disappears from all of your different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► scenarios now what they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► move towards is a situation like an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► where iOS you don't know or aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► applications are running in autumn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► you do that double tap multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► thing all you see is a it's like least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► most recently used ordered list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► applications and you tap on them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► they either launch or resume or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► just switch back the application you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► not supposed to know whether always it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► running before did it just launch him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► and you can kind of tell based on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► long it takes to come up whether it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► running already or not but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► something the user is supposed to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► ideally but the thing about iOS is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► it's completely consistent when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► double tap that thing you see the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► of all the applications that you've used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► regardless of which ones are running or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► not but there are aspects of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► os10 UI even line that don't behave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► way so for example the alt tab switcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► when the process goes away whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► was auto terminated by by you know line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► or whatever it's not in the alt tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► switcher anymore it still would be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► the iOS which is not on the alt tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► switcher and the same thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► dock if you have an application that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► a permanent home in the dock yeah it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► still be in the dock but if you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► application that was just transiently in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► the dock and it got auto terminated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► will be gone from the dock and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► even go back and click on it so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► two parts of the lying UI don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► like the equivalent part in iOS but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► process model where the OS has the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► to terminate a process that's not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► used does work that way you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► half-baked it would work except for to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► get because the like I said the the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► making is very conservative like well do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► you really care if lion kills a process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► that has no visible windows you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► it's not the front most application well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► obviously you're not using it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► shouldn't be a big deal but what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► come up in the case of a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► apparently there's no time limit on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► so he was a that was describing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► have no open windows in application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► do like commando to open something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► say oh wait a second I forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► something hit escape cancel that go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► to what you were doing and it's okay now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► I can go back to TextEdit and open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► but in the two seconds that he's that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► switched away from text editor do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► something else during those two seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► text said it wasn't the frontmost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► application didn't have any visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► windows didn't have anyone those at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► and lion came along and reclaimed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► so then TextEdit isn't running anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► like wait a second text that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► running two seconds ago did he crash I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► my thing that I came work for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► article from was that I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► the system would do that I thought there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► had to be some sort of timer like oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► also you haven't used it in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► minute or 60 seconds or two minutes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► some sort of time lag so it is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► like I stepped away for two seconds when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► I came back the application was gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► that seems like I I think they can they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► can get away with this sort of half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► measure because I don't think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► example that people would like the alt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► tab switcher to behave like the iOS one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► where applications just simply don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► unordered because that becomes a too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► unwieldy you know and I always said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► works because you're kind of swiping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► through the stuff or whatever but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► alt tab thing you can't just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► continuous list of all the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► you've ever longed for launched right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► Riis or tit into you know the order on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► your most recently used yeah it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► I've asked a bunch of people John what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► what they actually use the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► switcher in iOS for like how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► like are you using it to actually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► back and find older apps that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► launched and time and time again people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► answer the the same way that I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► which is the same way that the John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► Gruber told me he uses it by doing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► just the most common is is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► going back to switch to the last app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► that you had maybe maybe the what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► last two apps like so let's just let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► just make believe that you were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► back and forth between mail and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► wanted to send somebody a clipping from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► an article so you'd you'd want you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► launch the Mobile Safari you'd find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► article and then you double click the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► home button and go back to mail paste it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► in then like it's usually it's switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► back and forth between the last mail you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► know the last app usually mHealth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► whatever other app you're grabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► something from and that's like that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► and time again that's what people said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► just almost like they're just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► they're always going to that bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► left-hand corner to grab the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► app that's it that's all they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► they're not really going back through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► that lit where's on a computer but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► frequently you'll switch between one two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► three four apps all at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► especially if your developer doesn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► case right on iPhones you can't see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► many icons anyway see what you see four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► or five right so that's that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► much the limit of where you're gonna use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► multitasking because it's a second gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► the first time I really got to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► multitasking in earnest was at WWC one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► at the iPad 2 there and I found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► using most maybe the four or five I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► applications was bouncing between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► Simplenote Twitter my I am application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► email Safari so that's five right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► just bouncing around them pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► randomly so I was using good four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► five of those I guess I never scrolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► it never went off to the next screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► find that because if it's off that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► it's off that little list I might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► well just go back to the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► where I know where stuff is but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► find that that model does work for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► iOS where it's just especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► reordering by at least recently used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► because if you if I do get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► sequence where I'm bouncing back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► forth between you know simple note and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► Twitter I want it to reflect that simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► don't Twitter will quickly bubble up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► the top of you know the left side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► list and I'll go back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► them but if I'm bouncing around between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► three of them they'll shuffle up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► front you know it it's an adaptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► authoring type of thing that works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► me but in Mac OS 10 I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► common command tab thing is to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► and forth between two two applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► so you go to one then you command tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► and find the other one and then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► that it's just one command tab to bounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► back and forth I don't tend to use it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► do anything more than quick switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► back and forth I'm going to switch to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► arbitrary application I use the dock for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► that or drag thing depending on where my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► cursor is because my drag thing I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► processed oculus just the running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► applications and there in the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► right corner the reason that's there by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► the way is as Apple's fault from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► micro is eight days eight point five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► when when did the the process dock thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► come to as a necklace remember that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► that it was some kind of extension or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► add-on that came as part of Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► Office oh no no it was part of the I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► co-opted it was co-opted in I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► was an ally sure pretty sure was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► apple remembering this stuff but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► have sworn that like it was part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► office I mean there's a chatroom no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► mean I'm ready to be wrong on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► but they're saying I was eight five so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► thought coulda sworn it can't I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► remembers I remember installing office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► and you could tell which machines in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► my you know in our work group in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► you knew immediately the people who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► office installed because this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► this little switcher would be up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► menu bar it wasn't in the menu it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► palette that you could make that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► have a little usually I have mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► configured to be 16 by 16 icons of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► the running applications I think I'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► of them never know I know it now I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► what you're trying so I had that going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► in the upper right corner was you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► right you're right I missed that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► so I used reg thing drive soon as I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► away I you can make drag thing to almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► anything and I made drag thing I did too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► although now mine are 32 by 32 icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► because of icon inflation but if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► not have the doc as I think I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► before if I could not have the doc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► visible on the screen at all I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► that but you can't because doc is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► only thing you can get notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► like badges and you know bouncing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► all the other business and I need to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► want to see those badges and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► see when they bounce and because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► has that API completely wrapped up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► doesn't allow third parties to access it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► I have to have both dragged thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► the doc visible which then extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► the thing is if I don't run drag thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► my mouse goes that upper right-hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► corner it tries to switch to stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► I guess my mouse is always hovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► around the upper right more than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► down at the bottom one if I have to drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► my mouse all way down to the bottom to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► arbitrarily switch between applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► without all tapping like random access I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► want to have you know my I am app come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► to the front it's much faster for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► do it with drag thing you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► right thing just grows in one direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► doesn't move around based on minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► windows or anything else like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► termination yeah so the I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► a solvable problem I don't think as some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► people have said see the iOS model can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► work on Mac os10 it I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► solvable with just better rules because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► it's fine if it doesn't do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► unexpected like if I don't if I launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► TextEdit to quickly edit like I do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► show notes in sex ed if I launch test at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► TextEdit to do my show notes and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► like two days later I hadn't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► TextEdit and TextEdit had since been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► quit by the system's here to reclaim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► resources I wouldn't notice and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► wouldn't care the next time I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► launch TextEdit I probably wouldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► remember that I used to have it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► but it has to be it has to be that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► rules have to be better about when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► unexpected especially for Apple II it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► would be best if it had an awareness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► is this application permanently in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► dock you know you can't tell by looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► at it but some of your applications have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► you were to quit them they'll stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► the dock because they're permanently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► placed there that will happen if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► move one manually once it's running it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► will become permanently placed or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► whatever or you drag you there without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► launching it now many different ways it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► can stay in the dock right I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► better to kill one of those off because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► at least then it's still in the dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► when the person goes back to it they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► click on it and they might not even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► that it was killed that'll say I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► application then I would launch right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► think there has to be a time limit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► know even if it has no open windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► completely in the background you switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► away for two seconds the system should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► not kill that and especially it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► not kill it if your system is not under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► memory pressure which I imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► system was not under memory pressure why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► would it be from you know going wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► two seconds all of a sudden thinks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► needs ran back you know I never tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► have a lot of RAM in their systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► anyway I would say don't kill a lot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► process unless you actually need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► resources and unless all the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► rules apply and it had there's been no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► interaction with that application from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► the user for X amount of time one minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► two minute five minutes something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► that it just needs a better set of rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► I think so I'm I think this and also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► great thing about this is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► opt-in and on a per application basis so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► if you're writing a type of application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► where you never want to be killed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► an IM application I don't think an IMAP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► Legation which should read your who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► for determination because even if known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► has touched that I in application in 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► hours people don't want their I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► application being terminated by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► system exactly available to give I am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► I might be an urgent urgent message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► waiting to happen right it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► os wide policy where though you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► choice in iOS you're going to get killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► if the system needs memory tough luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► Mac os10 I think they have struck the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► right balance about this being opt in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► and their real set is almost where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► should be I think they just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► tweak so I expecting a point release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► they may change us and as I said in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► review once one thing they may be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► for here is the idea what of Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► switchers who expect it when you close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► the last document the application quits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► that's kind of a text edit behaves now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► because if you close the last document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► so which away from TextEdit and a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► of seconds TextEdit is going to quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► right people window switchers may think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► that's correct behavior Oh Mac people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► are going to be pissed and I think even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► Windows Twitter's will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► realize that's kind of annoying because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► what if you just switched away for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► second and you come bettin you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► come back to it and open something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► the application is gone especially if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► doesn't have a permanent home in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► dock which I imagine TextEdit doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► for most people that's then you gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► find it to get to go wherever recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► applications in a worst case man space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► TX return you're going to get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► people using a keyboard based launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► bars launch launchers after this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► which is a good thing I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► like look whenever I sit down at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► machine it doesn't have launch bar or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► Quicksilver or something running that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► like that's like you know whenever I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► a new machine a lot of people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► reading about on on the internet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► saying oh I'm doing if the first clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► install I've done in decades I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► Marco is even blogging about this Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► host of build and analyze on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► network was saying oh I'm going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► clean install like I always do a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► install like every single time it's then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► we should talk about this on a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► show a little bit more than we have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► the past but that is to say the lion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► the first operating system that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► not done a fully clean install with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► and I've done that every single time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► that's only because I didn't go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► buy a DVD I had to make one so I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► machines that I've done but every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► time I do I always do clean install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► always do a clean install you're crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► always do clean I don't want those get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► for decades and weird settings and plist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► files and cruft and I'll go in and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► I try and run John I try and run as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► of a stock machine as I can when I sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► down at a machine you would think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► just got this machine I haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► been using it and I might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► I put the fewest apps on as I possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► can I do I work as long as I can without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► installing any apps or any customization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► to doing anything like I'll change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► desktop to the grey or to the blue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► that's that's like that's the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► I'll put the dock on the right hand side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► where it belongs and then I'll install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► some kind of keyboard launcher and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► and that's it I try to go with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► obviously you know within a few hours I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► have BBEdit on there but I tried I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► to just go as stock as possible minimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► don't don't run star don't even install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► an app until I really need it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► absolutely can't do without it how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► apps you have on is different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► whether you do a clean install you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► always upgrade now I don't want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► want you having that cruft I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► any old settings I don't want any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► preferences I want to see what what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► it what is Apple what does Steve think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► should what my experience should be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► let's start with that and anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► I don't like of course I have veto power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► to my machine will override it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► change it back but who wants all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► old settings hanging our animal at crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► what a decision I made for myself three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► years ago is still valid today false so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► you know I used to back in the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► days I would do when there was an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► upgrade I would try to do a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► clean install this I sound insane but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► this is what I did back then I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► install the new operating system on to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► new driver partition but I would I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► have my old set up there and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► would manually merge the old setups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► the new setups manually merge the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► folders by dragging out the files that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► knew needed to be in a certain location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► to manually merge all the units all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► control panels all the fonts that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► wanted all the enablers and drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► because I mean I think about it now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► insane that is this even work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► eventually you sort of learn the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► subset of things that you need to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► is this part of the old operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► or was this a custom thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► installed them where does it go and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► work on the new system I did that manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► merge upgrade from 1984 until Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► and towards the end when I was doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► on my Blume yg3 was getting kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► tedious but it worked well for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► because I wouldn't bring along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► Preferences for the apps that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► use anymore like oh I'm not going to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► preference you know and I would and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► would have a clean install you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► I could slowly build up to it to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► I broke something well let me drag that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► back but usually it was just a one-shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► one-day type of operation I wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► it now though but when Mac os10 came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► along I started doing upgrade installs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► where when the new version came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► installed on top of the old version and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► that is all I have ever done and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► never had a problem doing Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► upgrade install I always just felt right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► on top of my other disk you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► like John we moved you know we moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► from Florida to Texas moved Austin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► we tried to really weed out everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► we didn't absolutely need to take with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► us and what I must have done five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► donating stuff and then when all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► stuff got here I there's still what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► all this crap what is this crap I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► want this we didn't donate this we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► have this what is this here for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► just everything every time I go up I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► like why did I bring these t-shirts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► don't ever want to see these again well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► they're good t-shirts right but sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► could have donated them to Goodwill so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► now I'm don't any more stuff to Goodwill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► that I paid to bring here and that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► I feel with the you have this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► payload of stuff that you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► really need so why bring it over well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► here's why because the trade-off in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► situation is very different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► moving situation the trade-off for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► think and I think even for you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► think about it between especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► preferences and settings and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► between these microscopic relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► speaking plist files the the burden that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► they have that they're in the hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► folder now you can't even see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► library folder they're buried in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► they're tiny files and not taking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► your disk base yes their clutter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► know if you know they're all is a plist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► for an application I ran through user or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► do I need that anymore no right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► that's the that's the negative right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► from the positive side is if you happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► to launch that application that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► haven't launched in a while and all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► old settings are there to me the value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► of not having to reset those preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► or not realizing they're not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► set up the way I want it anymore it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► tremendously outweighing the negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► value of this 3k file on my to Tara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► white hard drive you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► it's not a science I want well it size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► or number are like clutter like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► care that's why I have a big hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► I want if I could have and I was said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► like I wouldn't have to bring over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► settings in the classic Mac OS world if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► I didn't think I was gonna use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► in practice the only time I ever did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► that was like if I had a new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► Preferences for the old version right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► but I kept like even up to maybe a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► ago I think I had preference files in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► Mac os10 preference folder for classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► something you know that had just moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► just in case ever launched that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► again or just in case of one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► Preferences or one of my high score file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► tremendous value of those little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► you know kilobyte files is so huge to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► that and the disk space cost and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► know clutter is so negligible I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► bring them all along because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► configure my system the way I want it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► customized a lot I don't realize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► much I customized till I go on to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► bare-bones system and then I try to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► it and realize oh my god I customized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► almost everything on this I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► realize this was a default how do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► even use this I mean from stuff like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► translucent menu bar you know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► went it you know that's like the the tip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► of the iceberg on the number of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► that I don't even realize that I change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► it like the double arrows on both ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► which I have in Snow Leopard I I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► stand using system out those of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► line eliminates that entirely by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► having any arrows but that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► we've already talked about on on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► previous show but no I'd always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► upgrade installs I haven't had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► problems with it ever people who it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► kind of like the permissions you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► repair permissions voodoo but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► like oh you have to do a clean install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► it's it'll work fine it will don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► about don't worry about the Preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► files cluttering stuff up if you keep a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► clean system and you upgrade install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► clean system it'll still be clean right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► you know don't have 20 applications on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► there then you won't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► preferences and then when you do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► upgrade install it's not going to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► new preference this is going to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► going to overwrite your old preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► for energy saver or whatever with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► new versions or it'll read your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► preference it's like it's not it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► add up all right so if you decide to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► which i think is a reasonable practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► especially for portables i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► good to do this your practice of don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► put every application in the world on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► there just pull them on you know demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► and when you need one install it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► keep it to a minimal system and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► tweak stuff tweak like the three things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► that no you must change the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► desktop background change the the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► bar change the scrolling speed the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► tracking and like three other things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► then you know you're all set I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► still say that it would annoy me if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► had to set up a new machine and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► all those settings like what was my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► Mouse tracking was at this so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► actually feels a little bit faster maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► I had a wrong key I go three I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► I like that the re-evaluation at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► cost I don't like you know I'm fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► certain things being the way they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► but now maybe maybe there's something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► was missing out like this like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► window zooming that we turn it off I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► turned I turned it back on you're out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► I turned it back on why because I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► like you know I didn't maybe I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► give it enough chance like it was open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► it was so it made me feel so sick to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► stomach that I just instantaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► turned it off and I said you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► wait a minute what am I so scared of let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► me see what is exactly Steve wants me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► try here so I kind of turned it back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► and then you know it's not so bad I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► I I didn't know how to turn it off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► the months I was using the dev builds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► and that was enough to sour me on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► creating lots of new windows while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► testing maybe I don't know but yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► gonna have it off and I'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► translation menu bar I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► revisit though you know what no I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► I'm with you there that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► that's just silly it's horrible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► pretty silly all right so the wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► minute let's do is I can sponsor its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► campaign monitor now these guys just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► released an is their word but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► second it's not a word that's normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► in my vocabulary gorgeous they send over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► they send over some you know points that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► they want me to use but you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► you could talk but I'll you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► gorgeous update to their email editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► it's true then lists lets you design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► even more flexible email templates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► to celebrate they are giving away 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► free templates that doesn't mean to 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► people that means they have a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► templates that they're giving away to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► everybody these are done by some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► best designers on the web you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► campaign monitor comm slash templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► and you can see these things when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► there you can also catch a demo of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► new editor which is really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► and this will be in action at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► address Oh campaign monitor calm slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► template these guys are great long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► supporter 5x5 love these guys they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► have amazing amazing analytics when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► send your campaigns with them so please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► do go check them out campaign monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► calm thanks very much to them for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► it possible I'll have a smorgasbord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► other topics we can go to so many that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► we didn't get to I'll rattle some off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► and you pick whichever one you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► will fit in our scant remaining time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► sure um Ark won't fit so forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► that people really want the ark I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► really want the ark they were very I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► just listening for the record a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► discouraged you from talking about Ark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► so I'll put it right myself why don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► just do a whole show just about Ark it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► won't be that long but we'll get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► but it's not enough time now BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► versus textmate iCloud Web Apps patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► markdown is too long yeah so those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► your choices doesn't happen thank God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► Web Apps BBEdit versus textmate what can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► we do in 15 10 15 minutes Oh any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► those I think I can do really and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► thought you could do the other thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► notoriously bad at knowing how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► give me my choices again I heard patents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► I heard BBEdit versus textmate those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► could you kind of jumped out at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► iCloud Web Apps mmm I know we could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► that in 15 minutes but I want to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► that cuz I haven't really gotten to dive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► in with those yet all right so do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► want let's do the BBEdit textmate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► textmate discussion because i after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► i don't want ever talk about that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► yeah that's why I think I'd only think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► for new ministries you did talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► a lot that's why it's even on my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► hearing everyone else okay let's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► let's let's uh you know how like it have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► you ever you ever eaten something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► didn't agree with you and you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► can feel your stomach starting to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► upset and you know that and until your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► body finally gets to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► it's just gonna barf out everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► just ate that you're going to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► after that the vomit is gone and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► done that you're gonna feel you'll feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► human again you'll feel great again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► is how I feel about this discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► let's do it I didn't get a verse like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► you're describing what it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► no guys find that was actually apropos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► for Emacs no all right it's your VI guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► of course because I'm sane rational and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► intelligent no no I can't believe here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► well does that fit with Buddhism I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► it kind of does anyway I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► want a text editor to control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► lighting in my house for example so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► have no use for Emacs says the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► is using text mate for years because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► duplicates you're typing down columns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► when you can and you can make HTML just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► like your hero DHH yeah you ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► those features of text native matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► it's not a memory and CPU going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► making textmate work thanks Emacs look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► like I am a BB edit user I always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► been I also I used text made with rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► because there was a period of very dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► time period for BBEdit where you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► not easily and and with the you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► clicks open an entire folder now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► and that is called the Dan Benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► feature ask the BBEdit people if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► not called the Dan Benjamin feature that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► is the Dan Benjamin feature they built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► that just for me and that allowed me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► return to BB edit for a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► of my text editing all right so go go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► ahead let's talk about yet in text me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► every night I have been using BB edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► since it had an awesome icon that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► twisted since I guess version 2 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► don't you don't like the new icon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► don't like that it's twisted I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► that icon I use a custom icon it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► twisted should be straight up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► but yeah BBEdit since I guess maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► version 2.5 ages and ages ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► classic Mac OS using BB edit I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► even know how I came to use it or where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► I heard of it it's just sort of always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► been there it's my Texas it's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► text editor I didn't when I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► what a text editor was BBA was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► one I ever used and so BBA what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► I guess you call that a text editor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► I had no awareness of VI or Emacs so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► know my kid when this came out and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► that's what I use now and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► distinguished it from teach text or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► simple text teach text Google that kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► was that it was unstyled text you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► making plain text files that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► sooner text a text editor from something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► they can do fonts or RTF or tables or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► Microsoft Word anything like that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► someone had a question to chatroom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► we wanted to address here about changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► the app icons they wanted to ask if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► could change the application icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► signature like so Mac OS 10 applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► are signed now and it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► able to have something tampers with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► so if you launch into the signature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► invalid because someone tampered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► the executable like you got hacked by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► virus or something like you would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► about it would say the signatures bad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► when you sign an application you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► also put exclusions in there you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► important and this this and this file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► and the nib file and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► but you can also say but if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► changes the icon doesn't matter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► doesn't change our application signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► like that there's no there's no way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► could hack me through this you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► exclude files from the signature now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► don't know BB a does that all I know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► that I've been changing the icon to BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► edit ever since it twisted and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► never complained to me so I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► application signature all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► anyway I was using BB edit for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► years then I discovered the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► UNIX and then you discover the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► UNIX you quickly discover VI Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► I quickly mined in Emacs direction for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► reasons that I want to get into now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► because that's a whole other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► though yeah ah because you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► control the lighting in your house ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► know so before the Emacs thing there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► a cup at least one other text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► that appeared on the Mac that I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► alongside BBEdit I believe it was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► alpha do you remember that hmm no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► don't so this this had I figure what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► icon was maybe like a ugly TLA or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► something like that but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► distinguished it from BB I did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► similar type of thing like a text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► programming type thing but the thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► distinguish it was it was programmable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► with tickle I believe of all things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► that you could extend the text editor by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► writing little programs and you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► Emacs fashion now I'd never heard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► max before up to that point but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► so alpha was kind of not as stable to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► be edited not as nice an interface not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► as robust and the programming thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► a little bit too complicated for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► BB I did most of the stuff I wanted off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► the bat anyway so I didn't really deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► with it but when I discovered Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► Emacs and now for both examples of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► I like to call programmable text editors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► that everybody calls programmable text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► Emax that you know people say it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► operating system or it's big and bloated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► this was back in the days when machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► had four megabytes of RAM and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► bloated in those days but I Emacs didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► get any bigger but machines got way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► bigger so you max is not bloated anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► max that makes people think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► you were to saying controlling lights in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► your houses that it's a programmable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► text editor people say it's an operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► system not a text editor it is literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► an environment an environment in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► you can write programs so you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► Emacs do anything within the bounds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► the user interface it provides for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► so if if you want something to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► inside a window involving text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► you're willing to program it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► make Emacs do it it is extensible by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► user and there's no distinction really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► between the things that come with email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► acts and things that you program so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► example in Emacs when you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► control e to go to the end of line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► could write the go to end of line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► routine and bind it to control e and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► yours would have you know the built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► one is no more built-in than yours is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► you know implementation wise it may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► difference but it's completely level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► playing field in terms of how the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► editor works and what it does and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► is allow people to build essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► applications on top of you max like Elm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► not Elma no good news rather am I saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► that right someone's gonna tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► tonight that's my shoes I think I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► it yeah so as a male and I say Elm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► because it's a male thing a male and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► news reader inside Emacs and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► shell things and there are the modes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► doing HTML and tons of programming modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► magically Rhian dents all your code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► syntax highlighting and all you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► turing-complete like so if if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► something to happen when you hit a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► you can program Emacs to do that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► now the VI is very different for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► reasons in terms of the interface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► the modes and all that stuff but VI is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► less of a programmable text editor it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► more of a a text editor built for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► particular philosophy with a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► features that you can extend you know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► making your no settings and preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► in a certain way but as far as I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► is not programmable in the same way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► the Azim axis and I think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► big distinction between things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► BBEdit textmate and I guess VI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► things like Emacs alpha and any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► programmable text editors out there now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► I think this is distinction is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► because one of the knocks against BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► it doesn't have a lot of the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► that insert your favorite text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► here has so if your favorite text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► is Emacs then you can basically say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► every text editor existence doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► whatever features you like because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► anything is exists in text editing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► can do it in Emacs like well I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► like it when I type this key for this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► happen and why is it happening that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► well because I have is da TL file that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► wrote or I Karl called it from somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► or I found somewhere on the net 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► Kandice VBA to do that well bb8 it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► a programmable text editor even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► it has an extension mechanism but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► can write scripts and do stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► whatever it is not like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► programmable at the same level as Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► so BB edit doesn't do that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► you want to do and none of the built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► features can be bound to that keystroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► or you can't bind a keystroke to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► script that does the thing that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► to do or it's unfeasible to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► script executed every time you hit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► command you know you can say well well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► no it doesn't and the odds are very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► that if you're a heavy Emacs user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► you've tailed your environment your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► specific needs you're gonna have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► that you really really like to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► are not built into bb-8 and millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► other UMAX users like you have their pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► features that aren't going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► now text and text might did a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► bunch of stuff that also was in vb i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► just mentioned the the stuff they see on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► this on the rails demo of repeating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► the text in multiple columns you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► saving you work or bouncing HTML tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► automatically or tabbing through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► attributes of an HTML tag or all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► of stuff that was built into text made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► textmate was also more programmable than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► BBEdit not as programmable zmax but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► the mechanism through which you extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► text mate was more flexible than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► bb-8 did they have those bundles where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► you had you could have our but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► arbitrary code but close to arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► keystrokes in particular contexts now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► the the business about what context are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► you in and what language em in in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► particular place and what bundles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► active for this language and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► that that's built into text innate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► the Emacs world even that concept would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► be programmable so text made is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► originally defined as VB etagere you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► know but it has a more extensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► mechanism for changing the behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► so that foster this big community of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► Texan I'd bundles so that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► features that you're wowed by text my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► doing the beginning people made more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► those things and I pass them around so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► it was kind of like Emacs on training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► wheels where you didn't have to know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► lisp and be a real programmer to do even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► relatively simple things you you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► take someone else's bundle and modify it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► you could write your own simple bundle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► pretty easily you could look at someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► else's bundle and figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► write one and make one so that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► gave text made a letter a leg up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► think that is still the strength of text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► made any max versus BBEdit in it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► there's a particular thing that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► to do in BBEdit and it doesn't fit into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► BBS extension mechanisms you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► stuck and that makes people say well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► tried BBEdit but it didn't have my pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► feature and I couldn't figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► add it and so I switched back and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► sympathize with that because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► same way with me with some of BiBi at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► its features where bebe ADA has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► built-in features that I use frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► and I'll go to text mate and say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► text mate doesn't have that built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► feature though so yeah but you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► this bundle and combine it with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► bundle and kind of approximated and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► like but I don't know I don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► knowledge upfront I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► those bundles are where they are and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► don't want to put in the work to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► BBEdit already does out of the box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► it's a built-in feature you know so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► think text editors tend to isolate us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► into little islands where we get stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► the way we want it and as long as that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► Island doesn't sink into the ocean text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► mate - if we stay on our islands and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► but it doesn't mean that there's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► know regardless of the things that keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► us on our little islands there each text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► Center has individual strengths and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► weaknesses for me the biggest strengths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► ignoring like how its actively developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► and you know they fix bugs and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► so forth like that and also ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► like the carbon versus cocoa 64-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► business the big thing of BBEdit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► I've always loved is that it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► reliable and powerful what I mean by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► powerful is that I routinely opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► files with hundreds of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► lines of text in them you know megabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► files I haven't think I've opened a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► gigabyte one yet but if I did I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► just assume it would work in BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► I do that all the time log files other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► things like copying and pasting I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► the unlimited scroll back setting on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► terminal windows so I'll frequently be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► tailing a log that's getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► and then all tab over to it BBEdit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► then command option shift n to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► new document with the contents of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► clipboard that's all you know reflexive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► that's an example for example a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► that I would want to have or create in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► any other text editor the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► quickly create a document with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► contents of the clipboard and have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► bound to that exact command go that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► muscle memory but anyway I do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► sometimes I don't even think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► I'm doing it just happens instantly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► really fast and then I'll be at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► bottom of the document and and the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► number counter will say seven hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► thousand three hundred and thirty two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► and I realize I just I just copied and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► pasted it's seven hundred thousand lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► of text into a document and then I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► just do process lines and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► modify those lines with a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► expression BBEdit Schwartz Pro regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► expressions which as you can imagine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► love because I I know Perl and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► that regular expressions I have Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► script filters that I run on things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► that it's very high performance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► very huge files and that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► knocks against textmate historically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► was text made one in the early days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► performance with large files and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► just a non-starter for me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► stops me from using the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► because you know if it beachballs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► that though I've never seen TextEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► beachball because I haven't used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► it was densely enough to to see it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► that but I've heard people say oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► pasted in a few thousand lines and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► beach balls forget it I wouldn't I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► never launch that application again in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► my astute work it has to be reliable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► it has to be high performance really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► really big files another thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► the multi file search or maybe edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► other editors have multi file search ppi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► it's multi file search is fast fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► shows me the results in a nice compact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► way BBEdit diff with the character level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► diffs these your features I use every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► day I do huge documents I want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► the character ranges I want to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► to go down through with it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► arrow keys and push changes back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► forth integrated into the application a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► quick way to diff the frontmost to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► documents like it's all part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► workflow but the thing that keeps me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► going back to BBEdit is that it is a tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► performance it's like it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► programmer serious tool and a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► things that are dings against BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► have to do with its nature as that type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► of high performance tool so what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► imagine text makes problem is when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► paste in huge amounts of text it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► just be there using the standard text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► control at least they were back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► early days but textmate has an awareness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► of within a document what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► what is the syntax in this range and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► know what bundles apply here and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► and so forth and that requires some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► of dynamic processing of the content of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► the document and maybe they're doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► a naive way or whatever but BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► unconstrained by those things bb-8 has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► global switch for what language document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► is in it allows you to splat a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► text there without having the editor say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► like I got a parse all this text and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► to highlight the keywords or figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► what fold I'm in or where the curly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► braces are or if this is balanced or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► a so on and so forth that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► trade-off between figure out the syntax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► of the thing that's in this document and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► do smart things based on that and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► really fast and currently BBEdit swings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► heavily under the be really fast side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► now I'm the first one to complain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► bare bones and stuff that's hey I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► this cool feature from text made or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► Emacs where it has an awareness of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► completions based on that and I can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► a multi-language document and language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► is not a global setting all right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► asked for those features because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► situation I believe that the lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► lot of those features is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► things that makes BB yet it's so darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► fast and reliable so I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► should be a balance struck somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► the middle but textmate is way over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► the other side of this continuum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► right now despite BB edits failings in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► these few areas it's the one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► continue to use it's same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► Emacs like Emacs C pearl mode and Emacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► has better magical indenting and key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► wording and stuff like that and I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► but on the other hand Emacs even little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► dinky mess can feel slower when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► doing that and I really don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► when I type a key in a text editor and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff appears like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► you want it it's cool and magical when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► you're doing a demo it looks awesome but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► when you accidentally hit return and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► doubled matches your curly braces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► puts you inside the parens of a for loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► and you just wanted to go to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► line that pisses me off and I'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► clean up the cross the text editor put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► for me so there's a balance between that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► that needs to be struck but my taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► leans more towards the BBEdit way right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► now so that's that's my personal BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► versus text my thing as far as you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► Merrill and the other people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► switching from text mate and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► that I completely sympathize with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► because you you build up a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► kingdom for yourself in your text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► with your keyboard shortcuts with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► UNIX filters with your bundles with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► whatever whatever feature that your text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► editor has that you use a lot of we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► see Merlin as the Merlin does a heck of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► a lot more than that than I do to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► be totally fair about it I I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► using BBEdit since there was a PB in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► and at least since I had a Mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► could run it which isn't that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► probably late 80s right didn't come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► like 88 91 91 92 I think was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► part okay well I can't reform it'd to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► late 80s to the early 90s as a blur of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► strange music and Nagle prints so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► whenever whenever there was a BB I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► I was using it and you know for me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► would that was home the nine point font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► everything and then when I started doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► rails all the cool kids used text main I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► said well let me see what this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► know this is all about and had some neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► features that were great for rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► development and I told you what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► big killer feature was for me so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► know but I but I did go back to VB edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► and when I said go back I mean I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► left it I never stopped using BBEdit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► just didn't do rails in BBEdit I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► everything else in BBEdit just not rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► and they eventually went back for rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► when it had the couple killer features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► that I needed now Merlin is D he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► disturbing way in into textmate and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► him I would think yeah it would be real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► hard to switch away from it but i-i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► for me I didn't even take my preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► along with me start fresh see Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► could get out like he's not in too deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► but Emacs users Emacs similar to D you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► can't you can't get them out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► they they have literally just built they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► have built a world for them it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► minecraft in their minecraft for text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► editing they have built a world for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► themselves inside Emacs and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► way in hell any text editor that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► programmable would be able to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► including VI and all those other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► and even if they were programmable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► would mean that these people would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► to essentially port in their environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► with all this stuff that they'd you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► they'd written or third-party stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► this new environment so they're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► I was out they pull me back in I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► you'd never even you never even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► you're out of you max you're you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► it for life mister not but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► kind of like the the programmable aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► I tried to I'm sure I'm using 0.001 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► percent of BBS features because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► so many features in there it's the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► of application where if you go and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► for a feature at this point like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► paranoid about ever asking for feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► from BB edit because I always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► expect to get that reply back I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► that's already there just got to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► features they can't all be visible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► the UI but they're there in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► so I use a tiny portion of those and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► portion I use is important to me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► still feel like I'm I'm portable like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► some day BB edit goes away or some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► great text editor comes out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► better I feel like I can make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► transition because I haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► arbitrarily programmable I haven't dug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► myself in too deep to ever be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► keystrokes and my few things that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► to another text editor that happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► have the same good diffing good multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► file search you know good the UI that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► like and speaking of the UI I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► that folder sidebar project business I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► have single windows with single text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► maintained the ability to work like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► right despite adding that sidebar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► people who like the text you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► text mate and stuff like rails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► thought I can understand where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► like a formal directory structure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► application and you get used to it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► there I think maybe I wouldn't use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► I would rather have like a Finder window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► open and then bounce back and forth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► you might be impressed by I'm sure I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► forgive using BBEdit that way but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► know but it's it's at this point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► BBEdit is not religious in that regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► if you want to configure BBEdit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► behave in that way you can unless by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► way another reason why i would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► leave behind my BB edit preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► which are extensive at this point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► that I use BB edit very differently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► the defaults when I launch BB edit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► the default motoring would recognize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► application like on someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► machine I'm like is this what PPA looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► like these days so let me ask a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► let me ask you a question if if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► to use BB edit and I know we're over our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► time our time here but if I want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► BB at it when I open up you know I open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► up a folder I want to have it show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► all the contents but if the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► I want the individual windows is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► something I can accomplish I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► that's possible but the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► recent versions of bb-8 is it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► application in transition in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► the people who want to work use it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► different needs and the people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► and they're constantly trying to balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► like well what happens if you double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► click this thing in the sidebar but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► wanted to open in a separate window but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► when you drag in a document onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► application you want to open in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► current project window or in a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► they keep going back and forth in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► decisions and honestly I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► what the current behavior is all I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► is that my mode no sidebars ever minimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► windows just containing text my mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► continues to work in exactly the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► would expect it to work yields and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► that's very simple it's a it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► it's great that they continue to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► that because it really is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► no quit you have no question what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► going to happen no matter how you open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► document the open dialog dragging it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► onto the thing anything it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► open its own separate window hmm how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► aggregates open what happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► drag a folder I never drag folders onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► TV yet so I don't know what happens but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► consistent the new style way I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► has been bouncing around like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► sidebar used to actually be a drawer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► back in the day when drawers were around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► remember those the bad old days I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► want to talk about Drew I even built an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► app with drawers in it but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► talk about it yeah so but now it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► sidebar and they've been changing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► that behaves even for stuff like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► the sidebar have keyboard focus that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► another great thing about BBEdit by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► way so they make these decisions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► policy of like what should a pond you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► XY and Z and almost all the time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► have a plist preference for changing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► back to the old way and they document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► their pilos preferences in the extensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► release notes they're even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► official documentation almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► feature it's it's hard to ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► pissed because they change the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► something works because if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► work the old way this usually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► something defaults right bla bla bla you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► can write on your terminal and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► work the way you didn't one even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► insanely esoteric stuff like miniscule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► detail that amazed the stuff they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► people attacks for because I'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► some situation where like the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► beat the new version of B via two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► wouldn't let me save a file that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► currently executing as a perl script if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► the volume is mounted through sshfs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► and they'll say oh yeah just set this p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► thing to disable safe save heuristics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► whatever and it will go back to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► way like I didn't ask them for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► option I even know it existed when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► said hey I something weird is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► they're like yeah we changed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► but if you want to go back to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► way just do that that type of bare-bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► as a company is great with the creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► BBEdit updates constantly improving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► application and constantly taking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► account user feedback and constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► moving forward while also providing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► the best of their ability every little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► miniscule option you could ever imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► even though they're not in the GUI I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► don't really care if they're in the GUI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► as long as I have some ways to set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► the way I want it I'm happy and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► they're great about that you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► the only tech said it's better in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► regards probably max because I say do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► whatever the hell you want it's not up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► to us yes we are over time now well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► anyway I should wrap it up we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► read this is a good show good to be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► though good to have you back with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► asked to weeks without a show that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► all the stuff stored up was it two whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► I don't know it's long seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► longest one week we just missed one show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► I guess huh the last one was episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► number 28 trust but verify on July 28th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► it's the tenth there would be one show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► yeah because if you say two and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► people will think that we've been reused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► like and off we haven't been but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► yeah I will be on vacation again at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► end of August beginning of September but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► we still have two more shows before then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► that's true that is true was it 28 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► that last one week yeah it was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► all right then well that's it for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► show you can go to 5x5 TV you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► the here you can't really see I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplefTxY/4765">TS</a>]
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