Hypercritical

00:00:00 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► this is hypercritical a weekly talkshow [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► the world of Apple related technologies [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► and businesses nothing is so perfect [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► that it can't be complained about [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► especially not lying shows hosted by [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► John siracusa and I'm dan Benjamin [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► this is episode number 27 we'd like to [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► say thanks to the Omni group and for [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► harvest and of course Stack Overflow for [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► making this show possible tell you more [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► about them as the show goes on I'd also [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► like to mention that bandwidth has been [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► provided by Midas green technologies [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► Virtual Private servers submerged in oil [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► seriously check them out and Midas green [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► tech comm so you know this was a big [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► week for Apple not because of their [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► announcements but because of your your [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► lion review which was based on their [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► announcement right but I mean this the [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► big news this week was that your review [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► came out for me this was the big news [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► sure is big news for me too [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► and I just I would like to just stop for [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► a second and take a minute to say not [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► just for me but on behalf of all my [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► fellow geeks out there congratulations [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► on that the release of this it's an [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► excellent excellent write-up excellent [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► piece of work you should be incredibly [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► proud of yourself your best one yet best [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► one yet best thing you've ever written [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► nice of you to say that I'm not kidding [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► best thing you've ever done [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► if you never writes anything else again [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► you'll be able to hang your hat on this [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► for your career this is great read the [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► whole thing cover to cover all 85 pages [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► didn't actually print the did you I [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► printed it and I put every page up on a [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► wall of the house so that I could just [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► sort of almost like an art gallery each [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► page a perfect piece of artwork and just [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► move from one to the next just sort of [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► studying it so did you put push pins in [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► them and connect them with college [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► string [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► I had to resist and the medication is [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► helping with that but it came close and [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► it wouldn't have been string it would [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► have been multicolored yarn you're right [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► I think you're right but it was that [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► that was the idea was going from no I [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► didn't actually it was a little bit a [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► little bit of a [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► of a story when I started reading it I [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► started reading it on the web and then I [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► thought well you know I want to be a [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► little bit more mobile than this and I [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► thought well you know I could use one of [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► those readability read later Instapaper [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► type things to do it I said but instead [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► let's let's see how this thing looks you [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► know through like an e-book format so I [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► hopefully you get credit because I used [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► your affiliate link to buy the Kindle [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► version of it so hopefully you'll get [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► that and hopefully you get some cut of [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► the sales because you know you should [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► but anyway there that aside it was great [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► I read it I read it on my iPad starting [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► about a third of the way through I read [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► that the last you know two thirds of it [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► on the iPad a great experience [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► you know I said on the past shows that [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► the way I thought was best to read it [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► was on the web and I still believe that [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► having seen like I bought my own Kindle [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► version of the book - and I've seen the [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► eBook version that you get if you're an [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► ARS premier subscriber which is very [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► similar and they're not they're not as [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► good as the web version web version has [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► more stuff Kindle is awful with [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► transparent paintings like the Kindle [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► reader apps are they don't know how to [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► display transparent pink so all of these [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► screenshots that you take with command [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► shift 4 and then spacebar to get the [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► image and the shadow behind it yeah the [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► transparent shadows get screwed up by [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► the Kindle app stuff like that just as [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► you can imagine drives me up a wall well [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► let me actually do I still say the best [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► way to read it is on the web whether for [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► free just go to the website and read it [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► or pay for the RS premier or [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► subscription and you get no ads and all [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► this other stuff that you get but also [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► you can view it all in one page if [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► that's what you want I actually like it [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► split up on several pages when I read [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► long long things at the our site so I [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► can keep track of where I am let me just [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► ask you a question about that because [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► you mentioned the screenshots all of the [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► screenshots that you took which were [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► which were great I was actually to be [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► honest the way you were talking about [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► having to redo all of them every time [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► Apple changed something I was expecting [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► more of them and I was pleased that [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► there that there weren't more of them I [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► thought it was just right just the right [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► amount but how come you take the [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► screenshots with the the drop shadows [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► behind them is that because you know I [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► mean of if [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► if anybody knows you can do it another [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► way you know certainly that you can [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► disable the drop shadows why why keep [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► them just because that transparency [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► aliasing type issue if you know that [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► that might not translate well to a [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► printed thing or to a different format [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► why why keep the drop shadows well first [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► of all I didn't know going in that the [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► kindle can't handle transparent images [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► it seems like you know it's 2011 it's [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► not like transparency and images to [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► something new so how do I know not going [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► in I don't know maybe I would have made [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► different choices for the Kindle version [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► or tried to make duplicates for the [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► Kindle or something right but for for [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► Mac OS 10 screenshots for a long time I [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► was doing them without the drop shall [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► use absolve are and stuff like that but [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► Mac OS 10 windows have never really had [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► edges like if you if you zoom in on them [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► with a you know the pixie or whatever [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► other screen zoom tool you want to do is [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► they don't actually have edges they have [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► the content ends right and then there's [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► a one pixel thing that's kind of [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► transparent and you don't realize that's [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► not the edge when you're looking at it [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► looks like the edge like it you know [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► from a distance it appears as a crisp [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► edge there but the transparency shows up [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► if you trim everything out but still [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► include that one pixel line you realize [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► huh that one pixel line is picking up [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► the background so if you have some [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► dramatic background like one of those [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► nature images or something that comes [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► with Mac OS 10 and you chop everything [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► out you're like why the hell does the [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► border look all orange over here and [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► blue over there then you don't realize [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► it's not right and your other choices [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► all right so fine chop off that border [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► but then it looks like you you don't how [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► to use an image editor that you poorly [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► you know cut the thing especially if the [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► background of the webpage it's being [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► displayed on is a similar college the [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► content area they seem to blend together [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► the window has no edge and finally [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► there's the rounded corners which on in [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► line are actually top and bottom on a [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► lot of windows the rounded corners you [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► have to deal with something there you [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► can't have an image that set shape so [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► you do have to have transparency in the [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► corners and then you this the even worse [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► problem because you've got a one pixel [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► transparent fade on the corners that's [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► fading into the background and forget [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► about trying to trim that off by hand or [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► do anything with it it's just a big mess [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► drop shadow gets rid of all that it's [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► already transparent you can trim the [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► drop shadow only thing I didn't like in [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► line is the drop shadow got way bigger [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► so now I have to truncate the drop [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► shadow on windows much more than I used [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► to have to and you can see that cut off [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► between like the smooth fade and then is [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► like the sharp cut off before [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► goes to the background of the webpages [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► display it on so it's the lesser of many [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► different evils and I believe me I've [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► tried every possible approach and this [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► is the one that drives me crazy the [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► least let me just interrupt for a second [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► John your train of thought and and say [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► if you're listening to this and you have [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► not yet read this line review at ARS [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► technica written by John siracusa then [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► shame on you stop listening now and go [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► read it and I'll also I'll do like a [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► half shame if you didn't in some way or [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► another support John by by buying it in [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► some fashion supporting ours and [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► supporting John in some fashion shame on [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► you I just want to be clear about that [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► half shame for the second one alright so [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► there's so much stuff to go through in [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► this review I'm not quite sure where to [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► begin but I figure I'll get my personal [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► whining out of the way first and then [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► I'll let you drive and just say like [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► that you can pick out parts that you [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► thought were interesting we can jump off [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► from there well I have to I have to tell [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► you I'm very nervous about this quiz you [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► were maybe you were kidding but I've [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► been very nervous about it like I don't [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► get nervous doing these shows even [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► though I realize we have you know very [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► large audience I do shows every day so [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► I've become accustomed to being you know [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► live and recording live and having a [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► large audience I've never been as [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► nervous as I am today to prepared for [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► this quiz because I know I'm gonna I [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► know I'm going to fail it I know it's [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► all it's all opinion-based don't worry [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► okay alright so so first I'm going to [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► talk about my experience of publishing [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► this review which is a little inside [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► baseball but it's one thing that I can [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► offer that other people talking about [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► the same review can't so I figured this [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► is the place for it so I thought when I [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► was doing this that I would be very [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► relieved when it finally got published [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► and I figured there would be the usual [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► kind of scramble in the couple minutes [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► after its published to you know fix [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► typos and slang like that oh and all [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► that was true but one thing a couple [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► conditions conspired to make this much [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► more difficult birth so to speak than my [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► previous reviews the first as I've [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► talked about before was that Apple gave [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► the release date as just July and they [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► didn't know when July would be ready so [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► I tried to be ready in July [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► first because that's the worst case [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► scenario that they actually release on [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► July 1st I have to be ready you know day [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► off right I mean it I did wasn't ready [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► on the first but I did get it finished [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► on the third but I was in such a mad [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► rush to get finished that I always felt [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► that the latter sections of the review [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► like sort of where I tailed off where I [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► had to just hurry up and get this thing [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► done were not up to snuff and not up to [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► snuff in a particular way now if you [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► look go back through the reviews that [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► I've written it used to be that and this [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► this is one of the things that gave me [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► the reputation I had now used to be that [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► the idea was from version X to version [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► why I would tell you every single little [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► miniscule thing to change and that used [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► to actually be possible from like ten [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► point zero to ten point one or ten point [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► one to ten point two not that much [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► changed right and I was so embroiled in [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► Mac OS 10 then it so interested in every [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► little detail like I said well they move [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► this thing by pixel may change how [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► that's worded move that around like that [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► ah and that sort of that sort of ramped [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► up as it went along it became harder [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► from you do that in fact what I started [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► to do was as other people start to [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► notice Mac OS 10 they would do those NDA [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► breaking things where for months at a [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► time they'd be saying hey look we found [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► this hey look we found that and I would [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► comb the I've been collectibles all this [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► together so when I published mine it [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► would basically be a collection of [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► things I discovered my own plus [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► hopefully every other interesting thing [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► that I could discover that anyone else [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► discovered collected in one spot so if [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► you want to know every possible thing [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► that was changed you would know it now [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► somewhere in the middle of Mac os10 [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► sister II I started to drift from that [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► for a couple of reasons first was that [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► it interested me less you know that they [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► move this pixel here or they change this [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► checkbox or that you know this used to [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► be option modifier but now it's shift [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► and stuff like that I became less [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► interested in the small things like that [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► and I came more interested in the big [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► things like you know the message of the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► OS where is this going what what does [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► this change mean for the future of the [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► users or the platform or anything like [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► that and the second was they just [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► started changing way too many things [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► like it was just no way that a single [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► person I could find all the things that [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► had changed even if you're scouring the [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► web and the final one I think is that I [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► lost interested in I think readers did [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► too and that you can't have 30,000 words [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► just screen after screen showing the old [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► version like this the new version was [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► like that this modify change that modify [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► change this button changed over the [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► you know it it's just it's just not as [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► interesting to readers I don't think I [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► think if you if you saw pages upon pages [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► of that I wouldn't be able to do what I [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► normally try to do when all these [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► reviews just have some sort of through a [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► thread or a narrative structure to it if [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► I'm just going through an annotating [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► screenshots like I think this is what [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► you were saying you were fearing when I [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► when you said there's going to be a lot [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► of screenshots you're gonna phrase just [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► gonna be screen after screen it's know [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► exactly things exactly and just like a [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► few little cut like a few little [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► comments underneath you see a lot on the [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► web and it's definitely a place from [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► that in fact the artist people decided a [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► one point in the review I said if you're [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► looking for a screenshot gallery that [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► shows you every change screen this isn't [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► it you can find other ones on the web [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► and the arts guys when they're editing [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► your review said you know why don't we [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► do one of those so that we don't have to [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► direct people to another website I said [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► yeah you should do one because there's a [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► place for that some people want that and [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► I would like to give it to them so they [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► did a line screenshot gallery and I link [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► to it from my review to say this is what [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► you're looking for this is this over [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► here but my thing is over there but [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► anyway getting back to the release date [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► I wanted to do more of that type of [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► stuff like I say that for the end like I [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► have copious copious notes of all these [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► little things that changed here and [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► there and I wanted to add to have a [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► couple weeks at the end to just do the [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► grab bag section properly or flesh out [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► the application change of section with [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► all these little things that were in my [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► notes but I just didn't get to it and [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► once I shipped it it was just like on [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► the third once I put it off into the [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► editorial process it's like I can't you [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► know I can't go back and keep changing [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► this because that will not ever allow [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► them as they're making ebook versions [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► and they have to copy edit and they have [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► to you know go through regular editing [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► and like I can't keep going back say oh [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► and by the way I just changed 2,000 [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► words oh and here's a whole big new [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► thing because we had to be ready to go [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► any day we didn't know when it was going [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► to come out right so I just didn't get [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► that you know if it was if it was a hard [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► date and that date was the actual data [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► was released the 19th or whatever I [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► don't remember anymore I would have [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► worked right up to the limit where they [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► would have X number of days for editing [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► and stuff but as things stood it had to [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► go in the third go through the process [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► and then it kind of sat there and then [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► it's like well can I go back in and add [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► stuff now [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► well that means anything I add has to be [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► recopy edited has to be reincorporating [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► to the e-book versions and the ebook [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► versions even though Amazon was had a [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► quick turnaround time we didn't know it [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► was going to be quick so we [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► - that ebook version was being worked on [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► and had to be submitted and I just [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► didn't touch it after it was in there on [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► the third except for one or two minor [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► things and then when it shipped III all [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► I could think of was like all the all [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► the ways that I had failed to live up to [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► what I expected out of that part of the [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► review now the other part of the review [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► the part where I'm talking about what [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► these changes mean for the OS and the [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► direction the future I was very happy [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► with that just wasn't happy with the [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► with the amount of detail I wanted to [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► cover you even down to things like you [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► know these are not things that I was [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► completely unaware of they're in my [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► notes right I didn't even get time to go [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► through all my notes and say what I [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► wanted to do was go through I know it's [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► line by line and said that I talked [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► about that yes/no or decided not to that [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► I talked about that yes/no or decided [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► not to that just didn't have time that I [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► was just so burnt out by the time it was [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► done so that disappointed me and sure [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► enough when it shipped first said that [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► the reign of typos and stuff coming I [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► was actually pretty good considering [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► 27,000 word there was maybe 20 instances [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► of typos or a teacher knows nothing [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► thank ya the copy editors at ours are [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► actually really good and the stuff that [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► they missed is you know it's [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► understandable one or two double words I [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► could say was that maybe should have [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► been caught by copy editing but you know [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► I don't even know those guys do what [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► they do I wouldn't have caught any of [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► them because I'm a horrible copy editor [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► but the second thing that burned me is [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► that even though as you discussed in [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► previous shows even though the build [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► number for the retail release of this [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► thing is the same as the build number [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► for the GM seed it's not the same thing [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► and I felt a little bit better when I [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► read the exact same what least one of [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► the exact same mistakes in the macro [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► review I had a section interview where I [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► initially talked about how you know the [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► doc indicator light strong application [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► she's running yeah I talked about how [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► those were not turned on by default and [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► how the message Apple was sending with [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► that well they weren't turned on by [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► default and every single build including [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► the GMC bill but in the retail release [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► they're on so even though it's the same [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► build they change things in the OS [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► things like that things like what the [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► default setting is when you do a new [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► install it's not like it's a different [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► build of the OS but when you install it [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► you get a different experience and there [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► are and that could you know that could [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► have been very very much a last minute [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► decision right like the night of [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► that's what I was getting to when I was [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► trying to say that like always wait for [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► the retail release if you possibly can [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► because even and this is a extreme case [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► it is exactly the same build number so [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► I'm sure the binaries in the libraries [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► are all exactly the same as the GMC but [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► it is not quote unquote the same OS [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► because if you install the GMC at an [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► empty hard drive and you install the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► retail release on an empty hard drive [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► when you launch them one has dots under [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► the dock running app someone doesn't [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► stuff like that getting burned because [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► we were viewing the GMC was tough and [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► that was something new in this [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► experience because in the past almost [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► always they give you like this is the [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► final GM you've got a week to test your [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► applications with it it's going to show [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► up in stores on this date and we would [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► know it's the final jam like it would be [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► a disk image it would be byte for byte [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► identical to if you burned it to the [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► disk image you buy in a store so that [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► was a little bit tough and then finally [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► because I was so fried near the end of [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► this I made a whole bunch of just dumb [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► mistakes and since this is hypocritical [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► I should go through a few of them this [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► is not going to be a comprehensive list [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► but this is just kind of be an example [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► of each kind of error maybe so the doc [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► indicator lights already went through [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► things where the retail build was [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► different in terms of policy or defaults [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► than than the GM seed what can you do [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► about that right no one had the retail [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► build until my review was already [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► published right you know or close to it [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► trying to figure out how the [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► installation process works with the [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► recovery partition and everything like [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► that I got fooled by I mean I had a [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► limited amount of nosing around I could [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► do from the terminal to try to figure [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► out what the heck is it actually booting [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► from what does it look like and I got [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► fooled by the fact that the thing that [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► boots from looks very similar to the [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► recovery partition but it doesn't [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► actually reboot from the recovery [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► partition when it goes to the Installer [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► it does a separate boot image on the [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► boot drive then creates the repair every [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► partition oh is there all technical [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► details no one cares about that kills me [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► when I know that well you're going for a [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► hundred percent accuracy that's right oh [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► yeah I 100% and I can't talk about the [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► preview show I didn't just assume that [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► from the recovery job I said let me [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► confirm this let me get into a terminal [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► when I'm in that stage and install [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► process see if I can poke around and [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► look at what the heck of this is and [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► where it's mounted and what the contents [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► are and I just I just got fooled because [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► it looks like something that was [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► familiar to me I didn't realize it [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► you know busy can't tell what what [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► slashes and where it's coming from [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► especially when it's booting off a disk [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► image and it's it's difficult to [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► understand all that stuff so I was [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► annoyed by that Apple broke a bunch of [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► my links to documentation which annoyed [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► me the day line was released they [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► rejiggered all their documentation now I [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► never linked to the documentation that [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► was under like the pre-release URLs [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► because I know those aren't going to [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► work for people I'm linking to things [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► like techno this is one that you really [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► can only tech node 1150 which talks [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► about the HFS+ vol format which as you [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► can imagine I linked to like six times [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► various sections of it you know have [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► anchors within because it's a very long [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► document I linked to various sections of [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► it to explain certain concepts if you [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► didn't know what I was talking about [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► they removed that from the web entirely [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► so not only they moved the URL that I [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► there is no URL for I found one guy who [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► had copy pasted it years ago and I [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► updated the web version to include links [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► to that and I talked to some Apple [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► people and they basically said we [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► cleaned up our documentation if there's [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► some documentation that used to be there [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► it's not and you want it back file a bug [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► which is just basically did you know [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► it's like the you know the old saying [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► what patches welcome translates to in [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► the open source world right what does [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► fu mm-hmm patches welcome file a bug if [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► you want it back they're serious I know [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► but like it's not the type of turnaround [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► time I expect I need something these [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► links can go to now so I linked to this [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► guy's copy and pasted thing [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► what else did I get wrong some features [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► that were that I said were new in line [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► were not new in line they existed in [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► Snow Leopard I just never seen them [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► through a series of strange coincidence [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► like one of them is the the the [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► lockscreen allows you to switch to a [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► different user well I I use fast user [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► switching at home but I don't use screen [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► locking because you know it's in my [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► house and physically secure whatever and [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► at work I use screen locking for [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► security reasons but I don't use fast [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► user switching does I'm the only person [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► who's on the machine and this situation [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► has been the same across multiple jobs [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► and multiple Macs and all this conspired [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► to make me never actually see the switch [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► user button which apparently exists [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► under certain circumstances on Snow [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► Leopard if you have like the fast user [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► switching menu item enabled and and you [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► have multiple accounts and you have [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► screen locking turned on was another one [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► was another similar thing where it [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► actually existed in Snow Leopard and I [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► thought it was new and had to clarify [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► which aspects of a renew the entire [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► feature wasn't new but the appearance of [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► it was what our stuff like that kills me [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► and like so the first couple days the [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► thing was up all doing is run around [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► like a chicken with my head cut off [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► trying to fix these things and every [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► time I fix one I'm thinking that Kindle [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► version is out there without these [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► changes because Amazon system for [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► updating Kindle e-books sucks you can [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► upload a new version but then you ask [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► Amazon okay if I if I give you a new [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► version of this and you eventually you [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► know vet it and put it up on the thing [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► what happens to all the people who have [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► already purchased and already downloaded [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► this did they get the new version they [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► say no they can request the new version [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► from Amazon if they want some through [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► some mechanism so they have to like you [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► know and Amazon says will happily email [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► all the people who purchased it and tell [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► them hey if you want the new version [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► please send us a request and here's the [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► URL to go to like that's not 20 you know [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► and you don't want to do that every day [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► either I mean if you find one change [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► either one that email going in 2008 so [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► so there's necessarily days where in [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► fact I think the Kindle version is [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► actually finally updated now but there [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► are many days where just you know tons [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► and tons of changes the web version that [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► were not in the Kindle version so then I [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► had to endure repeated it's not I don't [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► say endure like these people [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► I'm glad every single one of these [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► people sent me in a correction it's just [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► tough when you know that the thing [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► they're telling you to correct has been [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► corrected on the web for a long time and [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► you're just wait'll version yet now [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► you're excited getting a sense of how [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► like an iOS developer feels once they've [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► submitted an app and it fixes all these [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► bugs that are giving it the one star [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► this app sucks reviews and they're just [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► like waiting on Apple to do something [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► that's exactly the same type of thing so [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► that was not a pleasant experience so [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► the launch was was rocky for me and how [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► are you handling it was all right I [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► could continue to wind it by that stuff [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► but I think you get the gist of it [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► that's so although everyone else was [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► happy that this review came out and I [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► was happy to it was difficult experience [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► for me they usually are difficult but I [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► always felt better knowing that I [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► quickly responded to them ah the web [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► version could be up-to-date and it would [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► be good and I could just tell people oh [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► I fix that reload right right now I [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► can't say that anymore all these people [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► are reading the Kindle version which I [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► appreciate that [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► than buying even though even though I [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► said that's not the way I would want to [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► read it that's that's me [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► if people if other people want to read [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► it on their Kindle or instapaper or in [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► readability or however that they want to [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► read it I'm happy to let them do that [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► and ours I think is great by offering [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► like every possible way you can imagine [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► to read this you want to read in iBooks [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► there's you know a way to do it so [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► subscribe to ours download the ePub [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► loaded into iBooks you want to read it [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► on your Kindle we have a Kindle version [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► or under you on the web you can have in [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► the web your honor here on the web [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► single page you can read it on the web [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► single pages grabbed our well the only [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► you know there was one there was one [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► only missing chunk there was one way [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► missing carved on a little pyramid no [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► there's no audiobook version yeah and I [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► all tried to get ours to do podcast for [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► years I said hey you know I would do a [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► podcast where everyone to get the [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► podcast there is not into it there is [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► not into audio well listen it's [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► obviously because I offered to do an [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► audiobook reading of it for free and [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► donate all the proceeds to you yeah well [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► that what can I thought you're not into [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► it for whatever a little shame on them [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► and but I'll tell you what if they ever [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► want to do a podcast that they give us a [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► call we'd love to do it we'll skip we'll [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► get John set up with a real mic [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► everything yeah they're just not into [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► podcast period I don't I don't [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► understand what the deal is but you know [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► it's all tied up into their digital [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► content strategy maybe they have some [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► sort of audio plan maybe they're like [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► Apple like they're building something [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► huge and nobody's going to know about it [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► until it's really really awesome and [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► then they'll they'll strike big with it [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► yeah it could be our first sponsor today [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► is the Omni group makers of productivity [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► applications exclusively for Mac OS 10 [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► iPhone and iPad they're known for their [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► awesome software gold standard customer [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► support and palpable geekery well today [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► I'd like to tell you about their [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► brand-new release of Omni plan project [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► management made more painless features [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► things like enhanced collaboration smart [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► scheduling which enables users to [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► account for the variance in a schedule [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► of an individual resource or the project [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► as a whole this new version 2.0 supports [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► fiscal years in addition to calendar [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► years I mean all of the things that you [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► want to do when you're managing a [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► project this lets you do one of the [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► coolest things is what they call [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► enriched reefs or [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► allocation this provides the ability to [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► manage resource allocation for people [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► and tools and it even features a task [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► splitting tool that lets you divide the [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► time of a task to fit around specific [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► interruptions do they even have things [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► like hammock tasks what is that I don't [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► even know what that is but they have it [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► you've got all kinds of filters [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► baselines even improve printing options [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► because you know the project management [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► you need to print stuff it's just the [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► way it is you print it and now this is [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► completely optimized for the Mac [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► experience you've got headers and [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► footers that are more flexible these are [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► things you could give to your client if [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► you're working on a client project or [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► you can hand these things out of [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► meetings it actually is really pretty [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► cool if you've got to manage a product [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► and a project this is the absolute best [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► way to do it omni plan [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► so you just go to omni group comm you [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► can find out about this and of course [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► it's also available everywhere that you [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► would want to install Mac software so go [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► check them out so I'll start my my quiz [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► for you this is sort of the broad level [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► stuff this is one comment to the [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► comments thread on the article that I [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► like to read it's like a paragraph and I [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► wanted to well maybe I shouldn't poison [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the waters by reading you this thing [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► first I should just tell you if you if [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► you rescue if you read the review what [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► would you say if you had to summarize [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► what Jon's are accuse the thought of [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► lying what would you say ah like overall [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► oh no not just like thumbs up thumbs [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► down but just like a one sentence [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► description you know I would say that [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► that you feel [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► gosh that's tough it really is tough [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► because I really got I really got mixed [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► a mixed vibe from you on the one hand I [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► mean you certainly did find a lot of [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► things to complain about but you also [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► seem to feel it was almost like it [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► generally I think of you as somebody [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► who's either neutral or pessimistic and [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► I feel like I wouldn't go so far say you [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► were optimistic about some things but [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► there is like I feel like there is just [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► a little tiny glimmer of hope in this [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► article that like maybe things will be [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► I feel like overall you thought it was [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► it was it showed promise it was a worthy [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► worthy upgrade it's something that [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► assuming your apps are compatible it's [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► something you should do you actually you [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► know I was surprised and something I [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► wanted to talk to you about was that [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► some of the recommendations that you [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► made even even using things like file [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► vault aka hold disk encryption things [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► like that I have a list of things that [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► wanted to ask you about but I can't do I [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► don't know how could I do a $0.01 this I [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► think you liked it and I think that you [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► feel like it shows a lot of steps in the [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► right direction and seems to acknowledge [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► a lot of issues that that have been [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► there in Mac OS 10 it shows that Apple [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► is acknowledging them and at least [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► taking steps in the right direction [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► clearly there's some visual interface [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► things that you know GUI things that you [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► do not like but you know when you talk [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► about the improvements or the potential [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► for improvements to the file system you [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► talked about you know memory management [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► things like that these are these are [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► beefs that you've had for a long time [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► and they might not be addressed fully [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► but it looks like apples laying the [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► groundwork for some of them so I feel [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► like you're cautiously optimistic does [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► that sound fair see I thought you have a [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► similar thing into the one that beginner [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► I thought I was much more naked ly [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► optimistic than most people who read it [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► thank a man especially people who know [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► you know if you listen to hypercritical [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► you know I'm very critical things so let [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► me let me read you this dude's or [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► persons really wanna meet you dude it [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► says I like the factual parts of the [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► review so far but I stopped reading at [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► page 7 you know these people who stop [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► reading it's always some how many [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► because because I read this on mostly on [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► the Kindle I don't know what how many [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► pages it was so what is page 7 is that [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► that's like midway through maybe [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► continue why big much of it is opinion [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► and what I take from it 90 95 percent [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► negative I'm sorry John I know you put a [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► lot of time into this but so far this [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► has come across to me with the attitude [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► that you dislike change or something [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► different it reminds me when people [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► travel to other countries and complain [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► about the way things are done [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► differently and how it's wrong and how [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► it's bad no I didn't get that at all I [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► totally disagree with that person [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► and say now it goes on - that's that's [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► the meat of the thing like and when I [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► see people who say ah bleu cheese a lot [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► of complaining I'm like walking maybe [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► this is somebody who's never read [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► anything that I've written before and [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► doesn't realize that you know of course [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► it's gonna be complaints now you can do [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► it and you doesn't mean I don't like [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► something you know I'm gonna complain [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► about everything right in fact the more [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► I think something has the potential to [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► be great or the more it is great in [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► other ways the more I'm prone to [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► complain about the parts that aren't [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► right but the idea that I'm one of those [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► people who who is against all of these [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► changes and you kind of talked about it [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► - and some of people in the chat room [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► said you know that consumerization the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► iOS if ocation of the thing dumbing it [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► down protecting users from themselves [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► you know hiding things that somehow I [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► was against that and I and it's because [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► I'm a tech nerd and should just accept [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► that's the way supposed to be on the [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► other side of the coin there were other [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► people in the comments thread at least [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► one other guy I should have said to out [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► this thing who's like in the ending [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► section when I said you know hey do you [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► know the width of you and that speed of [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► your bus or the size i'll do cash right [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► now blah blah he answered yes yes I knew [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► these things then I knew these things [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► now I know everything about everything [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► and Apple is dumbing things that I mean [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► you know there's always a guy like that [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► right I didn't respond to him someone [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► else in the comments that I respond to [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► him and said look you can't know [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► everything about everything you don't [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► know everything about you may think you [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► know a lot about your computer but you [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► know how you know how much doping there [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► is in the silicon in each transistor you [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► know what the you know the gate leakage [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► current is I mean nobody knows [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► everything about everything and ever [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► mind your car your desk the insulation [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► in your house your refrigerator what [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► what type of refrigerant is used in [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► refrigerator do you know if it's freon [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► or one of the other things or howhow [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► much voltage the compressor uses it [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► no-one knows everything about everything [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► it's impossible and that's just a [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► ridiculous argument so that's the other [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► side of the coin it seemed that as as I [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► seem to usually do getting complaints [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► from both sides the people who were in [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► favor of the changes in line we're [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► saying you were too critical of them [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► you're afraid of change you're afraid [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► they're dumbing things down you're an [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► enemy of progress and the people who [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► were against the changes were saying I [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► was too permissive and should have said [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► there's no way we should ever allow this [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► Apple should you know you should still [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► know everything about your computer and [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► everything Apple does to hide the [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► innards from you is worse [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► I thought I was pretty clear especially [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► in the conclusion that I am in favor of [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► this direction of removing things that [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► the user has to be concerned about you [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► know and I thought that came through [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► clearly but it's amazing to me that [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► people this is what happens I think [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► people read me explaining how things are [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► different like here's how it works in [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► line here's how used to work you know [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► and I do no comparison I said and here's [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► here's the philosophy behind it used to [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► be that X Y Z it could happen now with [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► these changes they're trying to aim for [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► a situation like this and here's how [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► iOS does that and it's showing that it's [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► actually possible to work like us so on [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► and so forth alright so treat that and [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► depending on how they felt about those [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► changes they would map those feelings [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► onto me as the others sure so they [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► didn't like the changes they'd be like [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► this author is describing all these [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► things and these things are obviously on [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► their face horrible therefore this [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► author who's just listed 20 horrible [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► things well so I have an analogy for you [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► John no and by the way I disagree with [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► that personal I'll tell you what I think [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► of that in a minute but here's an [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► analogy now I know that you're the [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► perfect husband I am I am NOT and I'm [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► married to a wonderful woman who's [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► incredibly patient but I and maybe this [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► is you know this is an invalid thing to [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► say but I think I think it's typical [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► that when people read this and they they [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► hear and remember the negative things [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► far more than they hear and remember or [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► see that the positive thing so for [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► example if for an entire week you [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► remember you know that when you come in [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► the house you take off your shoes and [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► you put them down in the right place you [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► know and the one day that you get home a [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► little early and you put them down in [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► the wrong place your wife walks in it [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► whether your shoes there for you know [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► that now I'm not saying that that [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► whatever you know happening in my house [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► but it's that kind of thing people [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► remember or notice the more negative [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► thing the thing you do you do wrong or [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► the thing that you're yes oh so if B [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► people were to read this and interpret [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► things the way that things that come [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► across as criticism versus the things [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► that come across as a a positive I think [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► I think they're going to feel like [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► there's more of the things that are [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► critical I what I did not do and maybe [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► this is because I feel like I know [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► and I know the way that that you think [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► of these things and I know that your [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► motive is to point things out so that [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► they they will be fixed or improved [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► right I feel like from my standpoint [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► that you were pretty you know cautiously [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► optimistic about it use it maybe use it [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► make idli optimistic I don't I don't [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► didn't get bad but you certainly were it [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► wasn't like scathing and I did not and [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► the key point of this I did not get the [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► impression that you're resisting change [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► I feel like you're welcoming change if [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► anything you're heralding it you you [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► want it as long as it's a change that [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► you feel is in the right direction and [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► my take on your definition of right [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► direction is something that is better at [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► communicating with the user making it [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► easy for the user to do things so like [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► one of the things you spent a long time [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► going over is you know you talk well [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► visit you didn't spend that much time [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► but you mentioned it a couple times and [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► that is that the the interface of line [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► continues in the direction of sort of I [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► don't know if this is the word but make [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► it makes everything monochrome the [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► monochromator zation of the interface so [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► that it puts the emphasis on the content [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► but you even mention that the folders [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► that have custom icons and you go to you [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► did a pretty funny example where you've [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► got these huge custom icons of like [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► Indiana Jones's hat and things like that [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► that are just simply not reflected in [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► the sidebar at all there can be no color [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► in the sidebar there can be no custom [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► folders in the sidebar like I get I get [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► the thinking behind that for Apple [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► because they really want the content to [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► stand out but there's also a value to [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► having a visual cue and things like that [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► so when you when you criticize those [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► things to me I don't feel like you're [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► resisting change you're saying something [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► that we used to have has been that that [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► was helpful to us has been taken away [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► and replaced with something that is not [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► as helpful to us and those are the every [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► single time I feel like that I saw a you [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► know you being negative or critical or [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► something that was the motivation behind [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► it it wasn't like I don't like this it's [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► different I didn't get that at all John [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► what I got was this is different and it [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► no longer effectively does this [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► it's it's gone and it's gotten worse and [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► that's why your did I nail that I mean [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► is that right is that that seems to be [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► like what you were thinking [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► yeah like two sometimes even in that [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► little section I remember the section [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► you're talking about if I had to expand [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► on that that's the good thing about a [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► podcast I can expand on things [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► extemporaneously if I expand on that [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► section why is it why is it better the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► folders are great sometimes I don't say [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► things because I think that it's obvious [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► and then I realize it's totally not [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► obvious to everyone except for me and [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► three other people [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► I gave apples philosophy there about why [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► why the heck is everything the color [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► being drained out of everything and the [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► philosophy is focused on the content [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► don't draw attention to parts of the [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► interface because the interface is not [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► what's important we want the interfaces [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► disappear and the content to be king and [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► you see that a lot on the iPad and other [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► iOS things but the app fills the whole [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► screen right there's not a lot of like [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► Chrome and stuff like that but in the [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► finder if what our folders aren't [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► content what is the finder is for [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► dealing with files and folders right and [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► even though those finders are in the [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► sidebar that's you know if you want the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► reason you're putting there is because [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► they're frequent destinations in there [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► places you want to go like that is [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► content for the finder it's not a frill [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► it's not I guess it is kind of part of [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► the interface but it's like if there's [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► one application where folders are [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► content its the finder what does the [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► finder do but manipulate content so that [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► that's an example of a philosophy which [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► I think is a reasonable philosophy you [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► can quibble all the execution you know [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► because it like you as you said you do [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► give up some things when you decide to [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► go this route you do give up [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► distinguishability or whatever term you [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► want to use for being able to pick stuff [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► out because it doesn't draw your eyes [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► now it also kind of blends but you know [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► but you could say that this is a [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► reasonable philosophy but applying it in [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► a blanket fashion has places where it [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► falls down and that one that I [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► highlighted is is one of them you know I [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► guess I should have expanded out today [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► you know folders are content in the [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► finder grab it is to get this is going a [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► step too far maybe I just wanted to make [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► a funny joke [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► but but anyway yeah that so the that I [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► think you're getting the right thing [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► from the review but I guess I guess [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► sometimes I'm reading over the little [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► ending bit that I put in there I guess [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► sometimes I'm daring the reader to be on [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► the same page as me I I realize I do [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► kind of say things that can be [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► in both ways because it's kind of as [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► someone said in the chatroom a Rorschach [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► test for the reader that I want to say [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► something that both sides of whatever [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► continuum of disagreement there is on [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► this issue can believe is either [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► affirming or opposing their point of [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► view so let me read the final paragraph [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► of the review here great up over the [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► past decade better technology simply [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► reduce the number of things that we need [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► to care about line is better technology [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► it marks the point where Mac os10 [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► releases stop being defined by what's [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► been added now on Mac OS 10 should be [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► judged by what's been removed now [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► there's a middle part in there that I [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► think again lays things bare lion is [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► better technology that's pretty [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► unambiguously almost entirely [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► unambiguously positive I'm you know what [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► I mean like account it's real friend [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► especially for a person like you but how [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► much more positive would you want to be [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► on that I agree with for this time I [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► really agree with you I agree man you [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► know so it's saying better technology [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► and then it's I had previously defined [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► better technology in the earlier [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► sentence by saying is reducing the [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► number of things we had to care about [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► which is the exact sentence I brought up [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► earlier in the review as well I think [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► even in italics at that point and then [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► the bit about releases stop being [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► defined by what's been added it's kind [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► of like in all the past reviews is like [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► what have you brought me all right this [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► time machine additives expose has been [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► added or you know this is metal things [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► there's a new application you know what [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► what are what are the check boxes on the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► back of the box that tell me this is the [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► thing that I want to upgrade to because [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► it's got all these great new features [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► you know and Snow Leopard kind of being [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► like a fizzle off on that point where [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► it's like no more check boxes same OS [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► you had before more or less we changed [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► the internals right but oh that was [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► acknowledged as a break but now lion was [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► like not only we're not adding stuff [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► we're taking stuff away not taking away [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► features so much as things that were [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► associated with the desktop computing [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► experience that we think don't have a [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► place in the future we're going to [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► remove them from the experience and [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► examples are like saving documents or [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► remembering what things you opened or [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► eventually you know dealing directly [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► with the file system and stuff like that [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► and the bit of the MRI said macro [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► tension should be judged by what's been [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► removed for now [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► right the people who don't like that the [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► people who say you're dumbing down my [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► computer you know I don't want a VCR I [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► want a congenital purpose computer that [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► I can do stuff with VCR mandating myself [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► those people said yeah they're taking [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► away stuff they're saying should be [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► judged by what's removed and they should [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► be judged harshly for everything they [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► remove like I you would not believe the [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► number of people I got who came to me [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► saying you know or said out on the [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► internet you know googling myself and [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► finding the links to it that you know [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► he's saying the Mac was ten should be [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► judged by what's been removed it's it's [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► a warning call be vigilant people every [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► time Apple remove something we have to [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► yell about it John is saying you know [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► judge them on what they removed no it's [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► not what I'm saying [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► I am is the opposite I think I'm for all [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► the things that they finding in the [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► desktop operating system experience [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► things that we accept people who have [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► grown up with pcs except as part of what [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► it means to use a computer that are [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► bogus that are the only reason we like [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► them is because we've grown up using [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► them but they have no place in you know [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► they have no purpose other than you know [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► it's like I don't know what the analogy [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► is for a class of old cars it's like [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► cranking the engine before you start it [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► or whatever other thing you used to have [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► to do that you don't have to do now [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► right it's it's not part of the thing [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► you're doing with the computer it's part [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► of dealing with the computer and the [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► ones they removes are such no-brainers [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► because it's like it's not like they're [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► speculatively saying we think people can [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► get along without saving just fine [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► there's this millions of iOS devices out [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► there none of them have a Save button [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► and they're in their interfaces right [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► and no one ever then said a peep about [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► it BG I like this iPad app but if it had [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► a Save button I'd like it way better [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► nobody has ever said that right universe [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► right or or their phone applications or [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► anything like that and it's not like you [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► know there's text editors or the phone [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► Simplenote you know the stuff like that [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► there's graphics applications or people [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► doing paintings for the cover of The New [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► Yorker with iOS applications those [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► people like this painting ablation is [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► great but I've had a Save button I'd [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► really like a lot better you know and [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► most iOS applications don't even have [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► the things that line is bring with the [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► versioning built in and be able to [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► revert at any time the most they maybe [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► have is a big undo history and maybe a [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► revert to last version that you know [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► that from an hour ago or something about [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► it you know it's I don't use enough [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► applications that are sort of document [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► based and Iowa [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► to know what people do beyond the [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► standard thing and the standard thing is [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► everything is automatically saved you [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► know the notes application mail Twitter [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► application you're in the middle right [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► tweet whatever you know I'm in the [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► middle of writing tweet all the time I [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► hit the home button boom I don't even [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► have an iPod with multitasking my iPod [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► Touch can't even run the multitasking [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► but if I'm in the middle of writing a [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► tweet and I have to get a URL from [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► somewhere or check my mail for something [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► is I have to wanna finish this wait I [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► hit the home button when I launch my [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► application that partially written tweet [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► is still there I never think all with it [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► needs to be save button on this tweet or [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► something like that you know the iOS is [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► a real world working example of almost [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► every single thing that they put into [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► line showing that it does work but [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► because the context of people's brains [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► are different when they're in front of [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► their Mac then in front of iOS these [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► same people who accepted this completely [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► with iOS and are saying you can't you [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► have to have manual saving because it's [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► impossible for me to work the way I [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► normally work and you know that's not [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► what they say what they say this isn't [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► it's impossible you can't you need to [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► have save you can't have it [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► automatically saving it's gonna screw [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► everybody up it's going to make me lose [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► data but they're really saying is that [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► they have habits built up over decades [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► of how you use the desktop computer and [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► how you interact with is different [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► saving but as I tried to point out in [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► the review it's a failed experiment you [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► know even the best of us even the people [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► in imarco talked about in his recent [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► episode too you even even the people who [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► know this the current system or the pre [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► line system inside and out even we screw [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► up sometimes right and forget about [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► regular people they screw up constantly [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► they simply cannot map that model that [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► the computer is using for data retention [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► on to the way their mental model they [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► think how it should work and those same [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► people have no problem with iOS because [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► then finally their mental model matches [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► how the thing does they just don't think [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► about saving it goes away right lion is [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► trying to do that on the mac and running [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► into people's pre-existing notions of [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► how computing to work now I thought that [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► was crystal clear that I am for ditching [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► these things maybe gonna hung up on the [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► part where I said like the parts that [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► work on iOS that are sort of that don't [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► work when you bring them over to the Mac [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► or that have disadvantages like that the [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► value proposition is different saving [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► and restore and stuff I don't think is [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► one of those issues I think that's [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► simply an issue of inertia and people [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► being used to the way things work and I [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► think we will all be much better off [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► once we can [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► humph hiding the scrollbars and stuff [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► like that they're serious trade-offs [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► there and you even noted I was glad to [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► hear you I think it was on the talk show [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► talking about how you'd be staring into [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► line screen and take a couple seconds to [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► realize that there's more content ya [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► know that happened that happened a lot [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► and it it's not happening now but I find [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► that I'm scrolling when I don't you're [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► buying it you're pulling it things to [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► see if there's more stuff right you're [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► mapping imagine if you did that in real [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► life yeah like you know I mean it's not [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► see that's the type of situation where [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► it's a clear trade off like you're you [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► are sacrificing the ability to know at a [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► glance that there's more stuff with 100% [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► certainty now if it's something [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► truncated on the bottom you can suspect [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► but what you want to find most people [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► will be replacing it with is the palling [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► notion let me just check this more let [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► me just check it and maybe that's fine [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► maybe that's you know instead of [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► glancing with your eyes you pull out it [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► with your fingers you do that in iOS [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► apps all the time because of course they [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► have the same problem but on iOS like I [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► said in the article that trade-off has [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► very different it it you know ways [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► differently on the things that you're [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► creating off there especially on the [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► phone look you just got you can't have [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► that scrollbar there [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you just can't there's no room on the [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► screen you absolutely have to ditch it [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► and so they did the best they could well [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► where it appears and dissapears and [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► stuff like that right but a 30 inch [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► display that trade-off is you know maybe [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► not great you know and maybe you don't [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► want to replace polling with with that [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► type situation on a thirty inch display [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► on the 11 inch air starts to as I said [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► the closer the Mac gets to an iOS device [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► the more or the iOS trade-offs start to [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► make sense in that context I didn't talk [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► about this in review of one of my fears [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► is that so in line they have obviously [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► options to reverse almost all these [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► things and you're always wondering I [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► think Gruber talked about this too so [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► those options are there now but do they [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► all go away in the next version and if [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► they go away do they stick with which [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► way are they which way they toggle [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► permanently right so the scroll bars you [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► can say automatically based on input [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► device the idea being that if you don't [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► have a touch device the trade-off is [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► probably I mean Apple is basically [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► saying with it with that thing [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► automatically based on device if you [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► don't have a touch based device it's not [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► worth the trade-off you should always [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► see the scroll bars alright because if [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► you have a mouse attached but no touch [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► device Apple defaults and that auto mode [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► showing the scrollbars so what's going [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► to be say say that option those radio [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► buttons go away in the next version what [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► happens is automatic the default is [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► always showing the default is you know [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► how do they go with that and the the [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► usual notion is whatever the defaults [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► are in Lyon that will be the permanent [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► setting in whatever comes after Lyon and [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► it's probably true in most cases but in [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► the case of like for the doc indicator [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► lights is a good example they reverse [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► that the last second why I obviously [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► wanted them to be off and they put the [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► option in there so really pro users [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► wouldn't car as I'm sorry I don't care [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► what the heck the default is if I want [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► the little lights I'll turn them on up [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► they don't turn them off pro users love [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► options they say if they can't get [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► worked up about they can say all right [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► so fine that the default it's off but [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► you know I make maybe that screws up [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► their friends and relatives and it makes [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► their tech support more difficult [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► they'll complain about it a little bit [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► but as far as they're concerned I hope I [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► could turn off I said it once I never [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► think of it again and I'm fine but they [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► Apple itself reverses decision and I [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► guess that is said look that's not a [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► good default right now it leads to too [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► much confusion people can't tell what's [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► running and as much as we want them not [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► to have to care like they do on iOS the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► reality is we're not there yet so turn [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► them on by default which is kind of [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► weird because if you think about it you [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► know they added this feature and left [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► this checkbox but who in their right [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► mind is going to turn that off as pro [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► users aren't going to turn it off [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► because they like the old way and [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► they're used to knowing you know what's [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► running and what's not and novice users [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► always leave the defaults so when the [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► world's going to turn those dots off [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► accepted some sort of weird experiment [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► or maybe a few people who are saying [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► it's freeing not to know which ones [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► running I just like it better I don't [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► know that so in terms of my overall view [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► of Lyon I'm for almost every single one [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► of the things that they're trying to do [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► with the OS I may be against the details [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► of the execution and quibble over some [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► things that don't work as well in in [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► several desktop contexts but in in the [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► camp of people who who like you know [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► autosave is the best litmus test because [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► it's like people who cannot conceive of [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► because they're so used to doing things [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► the way they normally do with saving [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► they cannot conceive of ever operating [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► in the environment where autosave exists [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► I'm I'm not in that camp I I I'm exactly [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► with them in terms of habits and that [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► all my habits are honed on manual saving [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► but I can totally see how the other way [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► is better [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► mostly because I accept how I operate an [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► iOS and how problem-free it is there [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► that that can work on the desktop and [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► because I've had transitional apps like [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► BBEdit which is done almost all these [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► things for four years now and I it has [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► sort of eased me into this way of [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► working [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► I still manually save like crazy and VB [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► edit and I'm still bet glad BBI makes [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► little backups but the restore thing and [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► the fact that BBEdit auto saves almost [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► everything for you so the app crashes [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► and you relaunch it you're partially [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► edited to work still there you know I [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► see I see that the other way can be [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► better and is better and it's going to [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► take other people a while to see that [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► and as I think I tried to point out in [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► the review this is going to be this [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► uncomfortable transition period because [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► it's not like this is another thing that [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► I should have expressed more clearly [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► lots of people still think even after [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► reading my review that you upgrade to [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► line all your apps get these magic new [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► abilities well they have you have to [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► change the apps you know that you have [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► to get updated versions the apps [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► developers have to change them that's [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► going to be a long time before that [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► happens [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► and so there's going to be a big long [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► uncomfortable transition period but what [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► can you do you have to get from there to [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► here iOS had it easy because they could [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► come day one and say this is the way IRS [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► works there's no Save button it's just [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► the way it is you can't tell what's [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► running and what's not that's just the [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► way this is how we implemented [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► multitasking there is no before this [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► there was no multitasking and then this [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► is how multitasking works well you don't [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► have that option on the Mac it has a [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► long long history and we're going to [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► have to take a long time to sort of wake [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► up from that history into the lovely new [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► age our second sponsor today is harvest [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► it's a time tracking and invoicing [TS]

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00:50:47 ◼   ► is one of them it should be it's a [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► really fast way to track time and keep [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► track of project budgets see we're all [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► talking all about projects today is [TS]

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00:51:03 ◼   ► there's even a free companion iPhone and [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► Android app this is the cool thing if [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► you're out on the go and you want to [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► track your expense [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► as you can and I love this you can take [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► pictures of receipts and upload them [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► straight into the app how cool is that [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► it integrates with Google Apps it [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► integrates with Basecamp and you can try [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► it free for 30 days and in that time I [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► guarantee you will realize that it will [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► help you work better and help you grow [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► your business they don't make you give a [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► credit card there's no obligation or [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► anything like that you just go to get [TS]

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00:51:34 ◼   ► and you'll sign up for a free 30-day [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► trial now when the trial period is [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► running out there's a code here five by [TS]

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00:51:44 ◼   ► you'll get 50% off your first month and [TS]

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00:51:51 ◼   ► check them out [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► get harvest comm slash 5x5 that was my [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► geek panic thing that's but again I [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► don't I don't think it's ambiguous when [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► I did a geek panic thing like it was [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► acknowledging that when I use that exact [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► phrase with an exclamation point that I [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► understand that you like me as a geek [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► are going to freak out when you hear [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► this because this is not the way it has [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► worked for decades and you can't do that [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► what are you talking about you're gonna [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► the OS is gonna quit my application just [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► because the windows are visible what if [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► I was using it or I'm gonna quit the [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► application but it's not gonna kill the [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► process I quit the application because [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► I'm one of those resources back for the [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► OS you can't MIT you know it's just it's [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► geek panic and it's I don't know is that [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► analogous like red panic I don't know [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► there's some sort of history based [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► analogy of this type of thing but I was [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► trying to be cheeky about it to say this [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► is sort of an irrational unfounded fear [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► this is just progress and it's going to [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► be weird for us but I think they're [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► going in the right direction [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► even if they're you know even if it's [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► weird in the transition and even if [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► maybe they go too far in a couple of [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► cases you know someone brought up in the [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► chat room something we want to talk [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► about that was also mentioned on a talk [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► show was a launch pad as the finder [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► replacement I didn't talk about that in [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► the review but I had that's another one [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► of the things I had stewing in my mind [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► like in the flashback under Sections [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► episode depressed these days you know [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► it's like what else is there to say but [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► I've done all my complaining about the [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► finder every release they do some subtle [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► tweak to it they made it cocoa which was [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► make the performance better they do some [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► annoying things we do some things that I [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► like but it's it's just kind of there [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► there's not that much interested and you [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► know it's just like oh they can't get [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► rid of the finder do they want us not [TS]