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27: Nakedly Optimistic

 

00:00:00   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   this is hypercritical a weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   the world of Apple related technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   and businesses nothing is so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   that it can't be complained about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   especially not lying shows hosted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   John siracusa and I'm dan Benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   this is episode number 27 we'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21   say thanks to the Omni group and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/21">TS</a>]

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00:01:39   printed it and I put every page up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/99">TS</a>]

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00:02:09   that was the idea was going from no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   didn't actually it was a little bit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   of a story when I started reading it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   started reading it on the web and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   thought well you know I want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/138">TS</a>]

00:02:19   little bit more mobile than this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/139">TS</a>]

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00:02:29   let's let's see how this thing looks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/149">TS</a>]

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00:02:53   about a third of the way through I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   that the last you know two thirds of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   on the iPad a great experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/177">TS</a>]

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00:03:02   the way I thought was best to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/182">TS</a>]

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00:03:06   having seen like I bought my own Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/186">TS</a>]

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00:03:19   more stuff Kindle is awful with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   transparent paintings like the Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   reader apps are they don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   display transparent pink so all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   screenshots that you take with command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   shift 4 and then spacebar to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30   image and the shadow behind it yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   transparent shadows get screwed up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   the Kindle app stuff like that just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/214">TS</a>]

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00:04:06   having to redo all of them every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   Apple changed something I was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/248">TS</a>]

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00:04:21   screenshots with the the drop shadows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/261">TS</a>]

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00:04:30   disable the drop shadows why why keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   them just because that transparency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/272">TS</a>]

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00:04:38   printed thing or to a different format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/278">TS</a>]

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00:04:43   of all I didn't know going in that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   kindle can't handle transparent images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   it seems like you know it's 2011 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   not like transparency and images to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/290">TS</a>]

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00:05:02   was doing them without the drop shall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   use absolve are and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/304">TS</a>]

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00:05:28   from a distance it appears as a crisp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   edge there but the transparency shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   if you trim everything out but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   include that one pixel line you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   huh that one pixel line is picking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38   the background so if you have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/338">TS</a>]

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00:05:49   it's not right and your other choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   all right so fine chop off that border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/350">TS</a>]

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00:06:14   you do have to have transparency in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15   corners and then you this the even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/375">TS</a>]

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00:06:18   transparent fade on the corners that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   fading into the background and forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   about trying to trim that off by hand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   do anything with it it's just a big mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   drop shadow gets rid of all that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   already transparent you can trim the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/387">TS</a>]

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00:06:30   line is the drop shadow got way bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31   so now I have to truncate the drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   shadow on windows much more than I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/394">TS</a>]

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00:06:42   display it on so it's the lesser of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/402">TS</a>]

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00:06:46   tried every possible approach and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/406">TS</a>]

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00:07:02   shame on you stop listening now and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   read it and I'll also I'll do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   half shame if you didn't in some way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/426">TS</a>]

00:07:10   another support John by by buying it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13   some fashion supporting ours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   supporting John in some fashion shame on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   you I just want to be clear about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   half shame for the second one alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   there's so much stuff to go through in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   this review I'm not quite sure where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   begin but I figure I'll get my personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/448">TS</a>]

00:07:32   whining out of the way first and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   I'll let you drive and just say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   that you can pick out parts that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   thought were interesting we can jump off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   from there well I have to I have to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   you I'm very nervous about this quiz you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   were maybe you were kidding but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   been very nervous about it like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   get nervous doing these shows even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   though I realize we have you know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48   large audience I do shows every day so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   I've become accustomed to being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   live and recording live and having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   large audience I've never been as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57   nervous as I am today to prepared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/477">TS</a>]

00:08:01   this quiz because I know I'm gonna I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   know I'm going to fail it I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   all it's all opinion-based don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   okay alright so so first I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/485">TS</a>]

00:08:09   talk about my experience of publishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   this review which is a little inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   baseball but it's one thing that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   offer that other people talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   the same review can't so I figured this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   is the place for it so I thought when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24   was doing this that I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   relieved when it finally got published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   and I figured there would be the usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   kind of scramble in the couple minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   after its published to you know fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   typos and slang like that oh and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   that was true but one thing a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   conditions conspired to make this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   more difficult birth so to speak than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   previous reviews the first as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   talked about before was that Apple gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   the release date as just July and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   didn't know when July would be ready so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   I tried to be ready in July [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   first because that's the worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   scenario that they actually release on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   July 1st I have to be ready you know day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   off right I mean it I did wasn't ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/539">TS</a>]

00:09:03   on the first but I did get it finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   on the third but I was in such a mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   rush to get finished that I always felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   that the latter sections of the review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   like sort of where I tailed off where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   had to just hurry up and get this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   done were not up to snuff and not up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   snuff in a particular way now if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   look go back through the reviews that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   I've written it used to be that and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   this is one of the things that gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24   the reputation I had now used to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   the idea was from version X to version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   why I would tell you every single little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   miniscule thing to change and that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   to actually be possible from like ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   point zero to ten point one or ten point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   one to ten point two not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   changed right and I was so embroiled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   Mac OS 10 then it so interested in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   little detail like I said well they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   this thing by pixel may change how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   that's worded move that around like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   ah and that sort of that sort of ramped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/588">TS</a>]

00:09:52   up as it went along it became harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   from you do that in fact what I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   to do was as other people start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55   notice Mac OS 10 they would do those NDA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   breaking things where for months at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   time they'd be saying hey look we found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   this hey look we found that and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   comb the I've been collectibles all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   together so when I published mine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   would basically be a collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07   things I discovered my own plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   hopefully every other interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   that I could discover that anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   discovered collected in one spot so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   you want to know every possible thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/613">TS</a>]

00:10:14   that was changed you would know it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   somewhere in the middle of Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   sister II I started to drift from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   for a couple of reasons first was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   it interested me less you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   move this pixel here or they change this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   checkbox or that you know this used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   be option modifier but now it's shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   and stuff like that I became less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   interested in the small things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32   and I came more interested in the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   things like you know the message of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   OS where is this going what what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   this change mean for the future of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   users or the platform or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   that and the second was they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   started changing way too many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   like it was just no way that a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   person I could find all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   had changed even if you're scouring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   web and the final one I think is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   lost interested in I think readers did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   too and that you can't have 30,000 words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   just screen after screen showing the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/659">TS</a>]

00:11:03   version like this the new version was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   like that this modify change that modify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   change this button changed over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   you know it it's just it's just not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   interesting to readers I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   think if you if you saw pages upon pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   of that I wouldn't be able to do what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   normally try to do when all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/678">TS</a>]

00:11:19   reviews just have some sort of through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   thread or a narrative structure to it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   I'm just going through an annotating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   screenshots like I think this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   you were saying you were fearing when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/687">TS</a>]

00:11:28   when you said there's going to be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29   of screenshots you're gonna phrase just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   gonna be screen after screen it's know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   exactly things exactly and just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   few little cut like a few little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   comments underneath you see a lot on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   web and it's definitely a place from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   that in fact the artist people decided a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41   one point in the review I said if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   looking for a screenshot gallery that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44   shows you every change screen this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   it you can find other ones on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   and the arts guys when they're editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   your review said you know why don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   do one of those so that we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   direct people to another website I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   yeah you should do one because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   place for that some people want that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56   I would like to give it to them so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   did a line screenshot gallery and I link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   to it from my review to say this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   you're looking for this is this over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   here but my thing is over there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   anyway getting back to the release date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   I wanted to do more of that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   stuff like I say that for the end like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   have copious copious notes of all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   little things that changed here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   there and I wanted to add to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   couple weeks at the end to just do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   grab bag section properly or flesh out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   the application change of section with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   all these little things that were in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   notes but I just didn't get to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   once I shipped it it was just like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   the third once I put it off into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   editorial process it's like I can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   know I can't go back and keep changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   this because that will not ever allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   them as they're making ebook versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   and they have to copy edit and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   to you know go through regular editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   and like I can't keep going back say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   and by the way I just changed 2,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   words oh and here's a whole big new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   thing because we had to be ready to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   any day we didn't know when it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   to come out right so I just didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/769">TS</a>]

00:12:53   that you know if it was if it was a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   date and that date was the actual data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   was released the 19th or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   don't remember anymore I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   worked right up to the limit where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   would have X number of days for editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   and stuff but as things stood it had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   go in the third go through the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07   and then it kind of sat there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/787">TS</a>]

00:13:08   it's like well can I go back in and add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11   stuff now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   well that means anything I add has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   recopy edited has to be reincorporating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   to the e-book versions and the ebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   versions even though Amazon was had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   quick turnaround time we didn't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   was going to be quick so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   - that ebook version was being worked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   and had to be submitted and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   didn't touch it after it was in there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/807">TS</a>]

00:13:28   the third except for one or two minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   things and then when it shipped III all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/810">TS</a>]

00:13:35   I could think of was like all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   the ways that I had failed to live up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   what I expected out of that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   review now the other part of the review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   the part where I'm talking about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   these changes mean for the OS and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/823">TS</a>]

00:13:44   direction the future I was very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   with that just wasn't happy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   with the amount of detail I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   cover you even down to things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   know these are not things that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   completely unaware of they're in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   notes right I didn't even get time to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   through all my notes and say what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   wanted to do was go through I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   line by line and said that I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   about that yes/no or decided not to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   I talked about that yes/no or decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   not to that just didn't have time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   was just so burnt out by the time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   done so that disappointed me and sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   enough when it shipped first said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   the reign of typos and stuff coming I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   was actually pretty good considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18   27,000 word there was maybe 20 instances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21   of typos or a teacher knows nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   thank ya the copy editors at ours are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   actually really good and the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   they missed is you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   understandable one or two double words I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   could say was that maybe should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   been caught by copy editing but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   I don't even know those guys do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   they do I wouldn't have caught any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   them because I'm a horrible copy editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   but the second thing that burned me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   that even though as you discussed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   previous shows even though the build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   number for the retail release of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   thing is the same as the build number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   for the GM seed it's not the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/888">TS</a>]

00:14:52   and I felt a little bit better when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/892">TS</a>]

00:14:55   read the exact same what least one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   the exact same mistakes in the macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   review I had a section interview where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   initially talked about how you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   doc indicator light strong application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   she's running yeah I talked about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   those were not turned on by default and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   how the message Apple was sending with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   that well they weren't turned on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   default and every single build including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   the GMC bill but in the retail release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   they're on so even though it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   build they change things in the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   things like that things like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   default setting is when you do a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   install it's not like it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   build of the OS but when you install it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   you get a different experience and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   are and that could you know that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   have been very very much a last minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   decision right like the night of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   that's what I was getting to when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   trying to say that like always wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   the retail release if you possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   because even and this is a extreme case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   it is exactly the same build number so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   I'm sure the binaries in the libraries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   are all exactly the same as the GMC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   it is not quote unquote the same OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   because if you install the GMC at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   empty hard drive and you install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   retail release on an empty hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/955">TS</a>]

00:15:56   when you launch them one has dots under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   the dock running app someone doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   stuff like that getting burned because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   we were viewing the GMC was tough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   that was something new in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   experience because in the past almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   always they give you like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   final GM you've got a week to test your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   applications with it it's going to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   up in stores on this date and we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   know it's the final jam like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   a disk image it would be byte for byte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   identical to if you burned it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   disk image you buy in a store so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/981">TS</a>]

00:16:24   was a little bit tough and then finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   because I was so fried near the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   this I made a whole bunch of just dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   mistakes and since this is hypocritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   I should go through a few of them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   is not going to be a comprehensive list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   but this is just kind of be an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   of each kind of error maybe so the doc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/998">TS</a>]

00:16:42   indicator lights already went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   things where the retail build was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   different in terms of policy or defaults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   than than the GM seed what can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   about that right no one had the retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   build until my review was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   published right you know or close to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:57   trying to figure out how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   installation process works with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   recovery partition and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   that I got fooled by I mean I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:06   limited amount of nosing around I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   do from the terminal to try to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   out what the heck is it actually booting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   from what does it look like and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   fooled by the fact that the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   boots from looks very similar to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   recovery partition but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:17   actually reboot from the recovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   partition when it goes to the Installer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   it does a separate boot image on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   boot drive then creates the repair every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   partition oh is there all technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   details no one cares about that kills me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   when I know that well you're going for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   hundred percent accuracy that's right oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   yeah I 100% and I can't talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   preview show I didn't just assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   from the recovery job I said let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   confirm this let me get into a terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   when I'm in that stage and install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:38   process see if I can poke around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   look at what the heck of this is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   where it's mounted and what the contents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   are and I just I just got fooled because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   it looks like something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   familiar to me I didn't realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:47   you know busy can't tell what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   slashes and where it's coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:50   especially when it's booting off a disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   image and it's it's difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   understand all that stuff so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   annoyed by that Apple broke a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   my links to documentation which annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   me the day line was released they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   rejiggered all their documentation now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   never linked to the documentation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   was under like the pre-release URLs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   because I know those aren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   work for people I'm linking to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   like techno this is one that you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   can only tech node 1150 which talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16   about the HFS+ vol format which as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   can imagine I linked to like six times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   various sections of it you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   anchors within because it's a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   document I linked to various sections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   it to explain certain concepts if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:26   didn't know what I was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   they removed that from the web entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   so not only they moved the URL that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   there is no URL for I found one guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   had copy pasted it years ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   updated the web version to include links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   to that and I talked to some Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   people and they basically said we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   cleaned up our documentation if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   some documentation that used to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45   it's not and you want it back file a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   which is just basically did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50   it's like the you know the old saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   what patches welcome translates to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   the open source world right what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   fu mm-hmm patches welcome file a bug if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   you want it back they're serious I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   but like it's not the type of turnaround [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   time I expect I need something these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   links can go to now so I linked to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06   guy's copy and pasted thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   what else did I get wrong some features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   that were that I said were new in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   were not new in line they existed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   Snow Leopard I just never seen them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   through a series of strange coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   like one of them is the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   lockscreen allows you to switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   different user well I I use fast user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27   switching at home but I don't use screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   locking because you know it's in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   house and physically secure whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   at work I use screen locking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   security reasons but I don't use fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   user switching does I'm the only person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   who's on the machine and this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   has been the same across multiple jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40   and multiple Macs and all this conspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   to make me never actually see the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   user button which apparently exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   under certain circumstances on Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   Leopard if you have like the fast user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   switching menu item enabled and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   have multiple accounts and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   screen locking turned on was another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1195">TS</a>]

00:20:00   was another similar thing where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01   actually existed in Snow Leopard and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02   thought it was new and had to clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:05   which aspects of a renew the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   feature wasn't new but the appearance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   it was what our stuff like that kills me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   and like so the first couple days the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   thing was up all doing is run around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   like a chicken with my head cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   trying to fix these things and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   time I fix one I'm thinking that Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   version is out there without these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21   changes because Amazon system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   updating Kindle e-books sucks you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:27   upload a new version but then you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   Amazon okay if I if I give you a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   version of this and you eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   know vet it and put it up on the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   what happens to all the people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   already purchased and already downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   this did they get the new version they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   say no they can request the new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   from Amazon if they want some through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   some mechanism so they have to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   know and Amazon says will happily email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   all the people who purchased it and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   them hey if you want the new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50   please send us a request and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   URL to go to like that's not 20 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   and you don't want to do that every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   either I mean if you find one change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   either one that email going in 2008 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   so there's necessarily days where in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   fact I think the Kindle version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   actually finally updated now but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   are many days where just you know tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   and tons of changes the web version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09   were not in the Kindle version so then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   had to endure repeated it's not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   say endure like these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   I'm glad every single one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   people sent me in a correction it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   tough when you know that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   they're telling you to correct has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   corrected on the web for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   you're just wait'll version yet now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   you're excited getting a sense of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   like an iOS developer feels once they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   submitted an app and it fixes all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   bugs that are giving it the one star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   this app sucks reviews and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   like waiting on Apple to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   that's exactly the same type of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   that was not a pleasant experience so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:44   the launch was was rocky for me and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:48   are you handling it was all right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   could continue to wind it by that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   but I think you get the gist of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   that's so although everyone else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   happy that this review came out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   was happy to it was difficult experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   for me they usually are difficult but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   always felt better knowing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   quickly responded to them ah the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05   version could be up-to-date and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   be good and I could just tell people oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   I fix that reload right right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   can't say that anymore all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   are reading the Kindle version which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   than buying even though even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   said that's not the way I would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   read it that's that's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   if people if other people want to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   it on their Kindle or instapaper or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   readability or however that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   read it I'm happy to let them do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   and ours I think is great by offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   like every possible way you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   to read this you want to read in iBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   there's you know a way to do it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   subscribe to ours download the ePub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   loaded into iBooks you want to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   on your Kindle we have a Kindle version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   or under you on the web you can have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   the web your honor here on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   single page you can read it on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   single pages grabbed our well the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   you know there was one there was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   only missing chunk there was one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:48   missing carved on a little pyramid no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51   there's no audiobook version yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   all tried to get ours to do podcast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   years I said hey you know I would do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   podcast where everyone to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   podcast there is not into it there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02   not into audio well listen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   obviously because I offered to do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   audiobook reading of it for free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   donate all the proceeds to you yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:12   that what can I thought you're not into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   it for whatever a little shame on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   and but I'll tell you what if they ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   want to do a podcast that they give us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   call we'd love to do it we'll skip we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   get John set up with a real mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   everything yeah they're just not into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   podcast period I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   understand what the deal is but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   it's all tied up into their digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   content strategy maybe they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:34   sort of audio plan maybe they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   Apple like they're building something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   huge and nobody's going to know about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:40   until it's really really awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   then they'll they'll strike big with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   yeah it could be our first sponsor today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   is the Omni group makers of productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   applications exclusively for Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   iPhone and iPad they're known for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   awesome software gold standard customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   support and palpable geekery well today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   I'd like to tell you about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   brand-new release of Omni plan project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   management made more painless features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   things like enhanced collaboration smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   scheduling which enables users to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   account for the variance in a schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   of an individual resource or the project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   as a whole this new version 2.0 supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   fiscal years in addition to calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   years I mean all of the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   want to do when you're managing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   project this lets you do one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   coolest things is what they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   enriched reefs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   allocation this provides the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:29   manage resource allocation for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   and tools and it even features a task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   splitting tool that lets you divide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   time of a task to fit around specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   interruptions do they even have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   like hammock tasks what is that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   even know what that is but they have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   you've got all kinds of filters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   baselines even improve printing options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   because you know the project management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50   you need to print stuff it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   way it is you print it and now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   completely optimized for the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   experience you've got headers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57   footers that are more flexible these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   things you could give to your client if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   you're working on a client project or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   you can hand these things out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   meetings it actually is really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   cool if you've got to manage a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   and a project this is the absolute best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:11   way to do it omni plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   so you just go to omni group comm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:16   can find out about this and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   it's also available everywhere that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   would want to install Mac software so go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   check them out so I'll start my my quiz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:28   for you this is sort of the broad level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   stuff this is one comment to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:34   comments thread on the article that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   like to read it's like a paragraph and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:40   wanted to well maybe I shouldn't poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   the waters by reading you this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   first I should just tell you if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   you rescue if you read the review what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   would you say if you had to summarize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   what Jon's are accuse the thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   lying what would you say ah like overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:59   oh no not just like thumbs up thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   down but just like a one sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   description you know I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   that you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   gosh that's tough it really is tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   because I really got I really got mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   a mixed vibe from you on the one hand I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   mean you certainly did find a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15   things to complain about but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:19   seem to feel it was almost like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:23   generally I think of you as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:24   who's either neutral or pessimistic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:27   I feel like I wouldn't go so far say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:31   were optimistic about some things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   there is like I feel like there is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   a little tiny glimmer of hope in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:39   article that like maybe things will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   I feel like overall you thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:46   it was it showed promise it was a worthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   worthy upgrade it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   assuming your apps are compatible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   something you should do you actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:56   know I was surprised and something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   wanted to talk to you about was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   some of the recommendations that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   made even even using things like file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   vault aka hold disk encryption things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   like that I have a list of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   wanted to ask you about but I can't do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   don't know how could I do a $0.01 this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   think you liked it and I think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   feel like it shows a lot of steps in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   right direction and seems to acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20   a lot of issues that that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:23   there in Mac OS 10 it shows that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   is acknowledging them and at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   taking steps in the right direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   clearly there's some visual interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   things that you know GUI things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   do not like but you know when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   about the improvements or the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   for improvements to the file system you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   talked about you know memory management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   things like that these are these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   beefs that you've had for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   and they might not be addressed fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   but it looks like apples laying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   groundwork for some of them so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   like you're cautiously optimistic does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   that sound fair see I thought you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   similar thing into the one that beginner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   I thought I was much more naked ly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02   optimistic than most people who read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:06   thank a man especially people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   you know if you listen to hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   you know I'm very critical things so let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13   me let me read you this dude's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   persons really wanna meet you dude it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   says I like the factual parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:21   review so far but I stopped reading at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   page 7 you know these people who stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   reading it's always some how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25   because because I read this on mostly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   the Kindle I don't know what how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29   pages it was so what is page 7 is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   that's like midway through maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   continue why big much of it is opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:36   and what I take from it 90 95 percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   negative I'm sorry John I know you put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   lot of time into this but so far this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   has come across to me with the attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   that you dislike change or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   different it reminds me when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   travel to other countries and complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   about the way things are done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   differently and how it's wrong and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   it's bad no I didn't get that at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   totally disagree with that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55   and say now it goes on - that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   the meat of the thing like and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   see people who say ah bleu cheese a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   of complaining I'm like walking maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   this is somebody who's never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   anything that I've written before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   doesn't realize that you know of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   it's gonna be complaints now you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   it and you doesn't mean I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   something you know I'm gonna complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   about everything right in fact the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   I think something has the potential to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   be great or the more it is great in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   other ways the more I'm prone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20   complain about the parts that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   right but the idea that I'm one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:25   people who who is against all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   changes and you kind of talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   - and some of people in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   said you know that consumerization the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   iOS if ocation of the thing dumbing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:38   down protecting users from themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   you know hiding things that somehow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:44   was against that and I and it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:48   I'm a tech nerd and should just accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   that's the way supposed to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   other side of the coin there were other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   people in the comments thread at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   one other guy I should have said to out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   this thing who's like in the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   section when I said you know hey do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   know the width of you and that speed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   your bus or the size i'll do cash right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   now blah blah he answered yes yes I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   these things then I knew these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   now I know everything about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07   and Apple is dumbing things that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10   you know there's always a guy like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   right I didn't respond to him someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   else in the comments that I respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   him and said look you can't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   everything about everything you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   know everything about you may think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   know a lot about your computer but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   know how you know how much doping there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   is in the silicon in each transistor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   know what the you know the gate leakage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   current is I mean nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   everything about everything and ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   mind your car your desk the insulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   in your house your refrigerator what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   what type of refrigerant is used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   refrigerator do you know if it's freon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   or one of the other things or howhow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   much voltage the compressor uses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   no-one knows everything about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   it's impossible and that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   ridiculous argument so that's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   side of the coin it seemed that as as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   seem to usually do getting complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   from both sides the people who were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   favor of the changes in line we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   saying you were too critical of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   you're afraid of change you're afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   they're dumbing things down you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   enemy of progress and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   were against the changes were saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   was too permissive and should have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   there's no way we should ever allow this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   Apple should you know you should still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   know everything about your computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   everything Apple does to hide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   innards from you is worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   I thought I was pretty clear especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10   in the conclusion that I am in favor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   this direction of removing things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   the user has to be concerned about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   know and I thought that came through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   clearly but it's amazing to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   people this is what happens I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   people read me explaining how things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26   different like here's how it works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   line here's how used to work you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   and I do no comparison I said and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   here's the philosophy behind it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   be that X Y Z it could happen now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   these changes they're trying to aim for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36   a situation like this and here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   iOS does that and it's showing that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   actually possible to work like us so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   and so forth alright so treat that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   depending on how they felt about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   changes they would map those feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   onto me as the others sure so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   didn't like the changes they'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   this author is describing all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   things and these things are obviously on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   their face horrible therefore this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   author who's just listed 20 horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   things well so I have an analogy for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   John no and by the way I disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   that personal I'll tell you what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   of that in a minute but here's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   analogy now I know that you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   perfect husband I am I am NOT and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:13   married to a wonderful woman who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   incredibly patient but I and maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:20   is you know this is an invalid thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   say but I think I think it's typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   that when people read this and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   hear and remember the negative things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   far more than they hear and remember or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:33   see that the positive thing so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:34   example if for an entire week you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   remember you know that when you come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39   the house you take off your shoes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   you put them down in the right place you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   know and the one day that you get home a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   little early and you put them down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   the wrong place your wife walks in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   whether your shoes there for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   that now I'm not saying that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   whatever you know happening in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   but it's that kind of thing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   remember or notice the more negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   thing the thing you do you do wrong or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   the thing that you're yes oh so if B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   people were to read this and interpret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   things the way that things that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   across as criticism versus the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   that come across as a a positive I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:16   I think they're going to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17   there's more of the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   critical I what I did not do and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   this is because I feel like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   and I know the way that that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   of these things and I know that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   motive is to point things out so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   they they will be fixed or improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   right I feel like from my standpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:35   that you were pretty you know cautiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   optimistic about it use it maybe use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   make idli optimistic I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   didn't get bad but you certainly were it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   wasn't like scathing and I did not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   the key point of this I did not get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   impression that you're resisting change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   I feel like you're welcoming change if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   anything you're heralding it you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   want it as long as it's a change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   you feel is in the right direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   my take on your definition of right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:02   direction is something that is better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06   communicating with the user making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   easy for the user to do things so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   one of the things you spent a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   going over is you know you talk well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:16   visit you didn't spend that much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   but you mentioned it a couple times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   that is that the the interface of line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:23   continues in the direction of sort of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   don't know if this is the word but make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   it makes everything monochrome the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   monochromator zation of the interface so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:34   that it puts the emphasis on the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   but you even mention that the folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   that have custom icons and you go to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   did a pretty funny example where you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   got these huge custom icons of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   Indiana Jones's hat and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   that are just simply not reflected in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   the sidebar at all there can be no color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   in the sidebar there can be no custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   folders in the sidebar like I get I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   the thinking behind that for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   because they really want the content to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   stand out but there's also a value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   having a visual cue and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   so when you when you criticize those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   things to me I don't feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   resisting change you're saying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   that we used to have has been that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   was helpful to us has been taken away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   and replaced with something that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   as helpful to us and those are the every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   single time I feel like that I saw a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:22   know you being negative or critical or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   something that was the motivation behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   it it wasn't like I don't like this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   different I didn't get that at all John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   what I got was this is different and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   no longer effectively does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   it's it's gone and it's gotten worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   that's why your did I nail that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   is that right is that that seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41   like what you were thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   yeah like two sometimes even in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:45   little section I remember the section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46   you're talking about if I had to expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   on that that's the good thing about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   podcast I can expand on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   extemporaneously if I expand on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   section why is it why is it better the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   folders are great sometimes I don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56   things because I think that it's obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   and then I realize it's totally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   obvious to everyone except for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   three other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   I gave apples philosophy there about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:07   why the heck is everything the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   being drained out of everything and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:10   philosophy is focused on the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11   don't draw attention to parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   interface because the interface is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15   what's important we want the interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16   disappear and the content to be king and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   you see that a lot on the iPad and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   iOS things but the app fills the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   screen right there's not a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   Chrome and stuff like that but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   finder if what our folders aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:29   content what is the finder is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   dealing with files and folders right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   even though those finders are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   sidebar that's you know if you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   reason you're putting there is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   they're frequent destinations in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   places you want to go like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   content for the finder it's not a frill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   it's not I guess it is kind of part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   the interface but it's like if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47   one application where folders are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   content its the finder what does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   finder do but manipulate content so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   that's an example of a philosophy which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   I think is a reasonable philosophy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   can quibble all the execution you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   because it like you as you said you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   give up some things when you decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   go this route you do give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   distinguishability or whatever term you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   want to use for being able to pick stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   out because it doesn't draw your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   now it also kind of blends but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   but you could say that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   reasonable philosophy but applying it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   a blanket fashion has places where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   falls down and that one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   highlighted is is one of them you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   guess I should have expanded out today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   you know folders are content in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   finder grab it is to get this is going a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   step too far maybe I just wanted to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31   a funny joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   but but anyway yeah that so the that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   think you're getting the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   from the review but I guess I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   sometimes I'm reading over the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   ending bit that I put in there I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   sometimes I'm daring the reader to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   the same page as me I I realize I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   kind of say things that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   in both ways because it's kind of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:54   someone said in the chatroom a Rorschach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   test for the reader that I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59   something that both sides of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:03   continuum of disagreement there is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   this issue can believe is either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   affirming or opposing their point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   view so let me read the final paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   of the review here great up over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:14   past decade better technology simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   reduce the number of things that we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   to care about line is better technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   it marks the point where Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   releases stop being defined by what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   been added now on Mac OS 10 should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   judged by what's been removed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   there's a middle part in there that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   think again lays things bare lion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   better technology that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   unambiguously almost entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   unambiguously positive I'm you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   I mean like account it's real friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   especially for a person like you but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   much more positive would you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   on that I agree with for this time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   really agree with you I agree man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   know so it's saying better technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   and then it's I had previously defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   better technology in the earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   sentence by saying is reducing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   number of things we had to care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56   which is the exact sentence I brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   earlier in the review as well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   even in italics at that point and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   the bit about releases stop being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   defined by what's been added it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   of like in all the past reviews is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   what have you brought me all right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   time machine additives expose has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   added or you know this is metal things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   there's a new application you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   what are what are the check boxes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   back of the box that tell me this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   thing that I want to upgrade to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   it's got all these great new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   you know and Snow Leopard kind of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   like a fizzle off on that point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   it's like no more check boxes same OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   you had before more or less we changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30   the internals right but oh that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   acknowledged as a break but now lion was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   like not only we're not adding stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   we're taking stuff away not taking away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   features so much as things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   associated with the desktop computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42   experience that we think don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   place in the future we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   remove them from the experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   examples are like saving documents or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   remembering what things you opened or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   eventually you know dealing directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   with the file system and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   and the bit of the MRI said macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   tension should be judged by what's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   removed for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   right the people who don't like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:06   people who say you're dumbing down my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   computer you know I don't want a VCR I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   want a congenital purpose computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:11   I can do stuff with VCR mandating myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:15   those people said yeah they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   away stuff they're saying should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   judged by what's removed and they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   be judged harshly for everything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   remove like I you would not believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23   number of people I got who came to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   saying you know or said out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:29   internet you know googling myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   finding the links to it that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   he's saying the Mac was ten should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   judged by what's been removed it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34   a warning call be vigilant people every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   time Apple remove something we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   yell about it John is saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   judge them on what they removed no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   not what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   I am is the opposite I think I'm for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   the things that they finding in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   desktop operating system experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   things that we accept people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   grown up with pcs except as part of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   it means to use a computer that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   bogus that are the only reason we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   them is because we've grown up using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   them but they have no place in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   they have no purpose other than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   it's like I don't know what the analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:05   is for a class of old cars it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   cranking the engine before you start it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   or whatever other thing you used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   to do that you don't have to do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   right it's it's not part of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   you're doing with the computer it's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16   of dealing with the computer and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   ones they removes are such no-brainers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   because it's like it's not like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   speculatively saying we think people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   get along without saving just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   there's this millions of iOS devices out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28   there none of them have a Save button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29   and they're in their interfaces right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   and no one ever then said a peep about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   it BG I like this iPad app but if it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   a Save button I'd like it way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   nobody has ever said that right universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   right or or their phone applications or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   anything like that and it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   know there's text editors or the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   Simplenote you know the stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   there's graphics applications or people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   doing paintings for the cover of The New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   Yorker with iOS applications those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   people like this painting ablation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   great but I've had a Save button I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   really like a lot better you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   most iOS applications don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   the things that line is bring with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   versioning built in and be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   revert at any time the most they maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   have is a big undo history and maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   revert to last version that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   that from an hour ago or something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   it you know it's I don't use enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   applications that are sort of document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14   based and Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   to know what people do beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   standard thing and the standard thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   everything is automatically saved you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   know the notes application mail Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   application you're in the middle right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26   tweet whatever you know I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   middle of writing tweet all the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   hit the home button boom I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   have an iPod with multitasking my iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   Touch can't even run the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   but if I'm in the middle of writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   tweet and I have to get a URL from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36   somewhere or check my mail for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   is I have to wanna finish this wait I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   hit the home button when I launch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   application that partially written tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   is still there I never think all with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   needs to be save button on this tweet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   something like that you know the iOS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   a real world working example of almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   every single thing that they put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   line showing that it does work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   because the context of people's brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   are different when they're in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   their Mac then in front of iOS these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   same people who accepted this completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   with iOS and are saying you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   have to have manual saving because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   impossible for me to work the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   normally work and you know that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   what they say what they say this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   it's impossible you can't you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   have save you can't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12   automatically saving it's gonna screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   everybody up it's going to make me lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   data but they're really saying is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16   they have habits built up over decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   of how you use the desktop computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   how you interact with is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   saving but as I tried to point out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   the review it's a failed experiment you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   know even the best of us even the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   in imarco talked about in his recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   episode too you even even the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:31   know this the current system or the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:34   line system inside and out even we screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   up sometimes right and forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   regular people they screw up constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   they simply cannot map that model that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   the computer is using for data retention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   on to the way their mental model they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:48   think how it should work and those same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   people have no problem with iOS because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   then finally their mental model matches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   how the thing does they just don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   about saving it goes away right lion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:57   trying to do that on the mac and running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   into people's pre-existing notions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   how computing to work now I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   was crystal clear that I am for ditching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   these things maybe gonna hung up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   part where I said like the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   work on iOS that are sort of that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:14   work when you bring them over to the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   or that have disadvantages like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   value proposition is different saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   and restore and stuff I don't think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   one of those issues I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23   simply an issue of inertia and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   being used to the way things work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   think we will all be much better off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   once we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:29   humph hiding the scrollbars and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   like that they're serious trade-offs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   there and you even noted I was glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   hear you I think it was on the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   talking about how you'd be staring into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   line screen and take a couple seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   realize that there's more content ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   know that happened that happened a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   and it it's not happening now but I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45   that I'm scrolling when I don't you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:48   buying it you're pulling it things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   see if there's more stuff right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   mapping imagine if you did that in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   life yeah like you know I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   see that's the type of situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   it's a clear trade off like you're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   are sacrificing the ability to know at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   glance that there's more stuff with 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   certainty now if it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   truncated on the bottom you can suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   but what you want to find most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   will be replacing it with is the palling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   notion let me just check this more let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   me just check it and maybe that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   maybe that's you know instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   glancing with your eyes you pull out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:17   with your fingers you do that in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20   apps all the time because of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   have the same problem but on iOS like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:22   said in the article that trade-off has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   very different it it you know ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:28   differently on the things that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29   creating off there especially on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:30   phone look you just got you can't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   that scrollbar there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   you just can't there's no room on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   screen you absolutely have to ditch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   and so they did the best they could well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   where it appears and dissapears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   stuff like that right but a 30 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40   display that trade-off is you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   not great you know and maybe you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   want to replace polling with with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   type situation on a thirty inch display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   on the 11 inch air starts to as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53   the closer the Mac gets to an iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:56   the more or the iOS trade-offs start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   make sense in that context I didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   about this in review of one of my fears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   is that so in line they have obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   options to reverse almost all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   things and you're always wondering I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   think Gruber talked about this too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   those options are there now but do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   all go away in the next version and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   they go away do they stick with which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   way are they which way they toggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   permanently right so the scroll bars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   can say automatically based on input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   device the idea being that if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   have a touch device the trade-off is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   probably I mean Apple is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   saying with it with that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32   automatically based on device if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   don't have a touch based device it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   worth the trade-off you should always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   see the scroll bars alright because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   you have a mouse attached but no touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39   device Apple defaults and that auto mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   showing the scrollbars so what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:46   to be say say that option those radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   buttons go away in the next version what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   happens is automatic the default is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   always showing the default is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   how do they go with that and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   usual notion is whatever the defaults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59   are in Lyon that will be the permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   setting in whatever comes after Lyon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:05   it's probably true in most cases but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   the case of like for the doc indicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   lights is a good example they reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   that the last second why I obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   wanted them to be off and they put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17   option in there so really pro users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   wouldn't car as I'm sorry I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   what the heck the default is if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:22   the little lights I'll turn them on up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   they don't turn them off pro users love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   options they say if they can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   worked up about they can say all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29   so fine that the default it's off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   you know I make maybe that screws up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   their friends and relatives and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   their tech support more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   they'll complain about it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:37   but as far as they're concerned I hope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   could turn off I said it once I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   think of it again and I'm fine but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   Apple itself reverses decision and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   guess that is said look that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   good default right now it leads to too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   much confusion people can't tell what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   running and as much as we want them not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   to have to care like they do on iOS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   reality is we're not there yet so turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   them on by default which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   weird because if you think about it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59   know they added this feature and left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:00   this checkbox but who in their right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   mind is going to turn that off as pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   users aren't going to turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   because they like the old way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   they're used to knowing you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   running and what's not and novice users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   always leave the defaults so when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   world's going to turn those dots off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   accepted some sort of weird experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   or maybe a few people who are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   it's freeing not to know which ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   running I just like it better I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   know that so in terms of my overall view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:26   of Lyon I'm for almost every single one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   of the things that they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   with the OS I may be against the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   of the execution and quibble over some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:37   things that don't work as well in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   several desktop contexts but in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   camp of people who who like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   autosave is the best litmus test because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   it's like people who cannot conceive of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   because they're so used to doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   the way they normally do with saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   they cannot conceive of ever operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   in the environment where autosave exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   I'm I'm not in that camp I I I'm exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   with them in terms of habits and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:00   all my habits are honed on manual saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:04   but I can totally see how the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:07   mostly because I accept how I operate an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   iOS and how problem-free it is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   that that can work on the desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:13   because I've had transitional apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   BBEdit which is done almost all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   things for four years now and I it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   sort of eased me into this way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:21   I still manually save like crazy and VB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   edit and I'm still bet glad BBI makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   little backups but the restore thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   the fact that BBEdit auto saves almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29   everything for you so the app crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   and you relaunch it you're partially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   edited to work still there you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:36   see I see that the other way can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   better and is better and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   take other people a while to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   and as I think I tried to point out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   the review this is going to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   uncomfortable transition period because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   it's not like this is another thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   I should have expressed more clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   lots of people still think even after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53   reading my review that you upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   line all your apps get these magic new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   abilities well they have you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   change the apps you know that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01   to get updated versions the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   developers have to change them that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03   going to be a long time before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   and so there's going to be a big long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   uncomfortable transition period but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   can you do you have to get from there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   here iOS had it easy because they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   come day one and say this is the way IRS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   works there's no Save button it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   the way it is you can't tell what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:18   running and what's not that's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   way this is how we implemented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21   multitasking there is no before this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   there was no multitasking and then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   is how multitasking works well you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   have that option on the Mac it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   long long history and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   have to take a long time to sort of wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   up from that history into the lovely new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   age our second sponsor today is harvest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3035">TS</a>]

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00:50:47   is one of them it should be it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50   really fast way to track time and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   track of project budgets see we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   talking all about projects today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3053">TS</a>]

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00:50:57   professional invoices via email PDF or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   on the web you can accept credit cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   you can check you get check payments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   there's even a free companion iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   Android app this is the cool thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   you're out on the go and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   track your expense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:09   as you can and I love this you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   pictures of receipts and upload them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   straight into the app how cool is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   it integrates with Google Apps it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   integrates with Basecamp and you can try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   it free for 30 days and in that time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   guarantee you will realize that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   help you work better and help you grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   your business they don't make you give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   credit card there's no obligation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   anything like that you just go to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   harvest comm slash 5x5 get it go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3091">TS</a>]

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00:51:36   trial now when the trial period is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   running out there's a code here five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3098">TS</a>]

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00:51:51   check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   get harvest comm slash 5x5 that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:57   geek panic thing that's but again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   don't I don't think it's ambiguous when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:00   I did a geek panic thing like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   acknowledging that when I use that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:06   phrase with an exclamation point that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   understand that you like me as a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   are going to freak out when you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   this because this is not the way it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   worked for decades and you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:16   what are you talking about you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:17   the OS is gonna quit my application just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   because the windows are visible what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   I was using it or I'm gonna quit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   application but it's not gonna kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   process I quit the application because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   I'm one of those resources back for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   OS you can't MIT you know it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   geek panic and it's I don't know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:34   analogous like red panic I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   there's some sort of history based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   analogy of this type of thing but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   trying to be cheeky about it to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   is sort of an irrational unfounded fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   this is just progress and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   be weird for us but I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   going in the right direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48   even if they're you know even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52   weird in the transition and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   maybe they go too far in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   cases you know someone brought up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57   chat room something we want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   about that was also mentioned on a talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00   show was a launch pad as the finder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   replacement I didn't talk about that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   the review but I had that's another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   of the things I had stewing in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   like in the flashback under Sections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   episode depressed these days you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   it's like what else is there to say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   I've done all my complaining about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   finder every release they do some subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   tweak to it they made it cocoa which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   make the performance better they do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   annoying things we do some things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   like but it's it's just kind of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   there's not that much interested and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32   know it's just like oh they can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   rid of the finder do they want us not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   use it with iCloud they don't even want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   your documents to be anyplace you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   find them because they'll be buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   the library folder they make the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   holder invisible so it's like forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:42   about the documents for they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:43   literally hiding them from you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   mobile documents folders were my cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   shows stuff and that's actually in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   library folder so they'll be literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   invisible in the finder so you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   that where Apple's eventually going do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   they think the base of the computer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:56   it is on iOS should be springboard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   something similar to springboard like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   Launchpad where it's just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   applications and you launch them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   that's that's the bottom level the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   operating system and no dealing directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   with a file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   I'm sure Apple would love to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   some people at Apple would love to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   that I'm sure other people at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   would never let that happen so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   as Gruber pointed out because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   probably has talked to a lot of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   people as have I that Apple is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   monolithic and inside Apple almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   change that some geek doesn't like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   line was opposed by a large faction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   people inside Apple who didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   whether it be removing the scroll bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   reversing a scroll direction you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33   high in the library folder every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:37   one of those changes I guarantee you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   there are not just like one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   grumpy guys but large sections of inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   Apple who were against it and in large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:44   sections who were for it and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   battle and you can see who ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   winning in all the various cases but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   Apple is not monolithically in favor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   everything that you see in the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   system because it's filled with geeks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   you know you think you're filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:56   geeks who are used to the way that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3296">TS</a>]

00:55:00   Apple and Macs have worked for decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   there's a lot of them in Apple as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   can imagine and so they were against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   this stuff too uh I think they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   brave thing in the correct thing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   going in the direction of progress I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   think all the uncharacteristic sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   backpedaling with the options it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   turning on and off was a stopped for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   opposition camp because opposition kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   you can say look we're going to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   this is the fall but everyone knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22   you guys are power users so you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   will don't be too pissed off you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   just check this checkbox and reverse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   the real battle will probably come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   the next version like maybe this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:30   wedge issue where the people on one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   of the cell be able just put it in will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   put an option and the next version comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:34   they're going to want to take away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   option and then the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   I'm gonna say you can't take away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:38   option I always have it in that mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   we had this big fight about this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   Lyon and we decided the option was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:42   important so we continued to work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   then unfortunately by that point the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   know Pro progress camp will have numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   to say well 90% of our X millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   users use this as a default and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   metrics to show that you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   perfectly happy with it so we think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   is just be the default and you'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   to deal with it maybe it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3358">TS</a>]

00:55:59   hidden plist hack at that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   maybe disappears entirely yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:04   when we talked about it for us the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   of progress sometimes it hurts so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:10   that long rambling thing all about sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   of my overall view of Lyon I got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   pretty much covers that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18   specific sections or specific issues you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   want to talk about should dive into them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   well one one thing that I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   certainly was wondering when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   reading this and I have to assume if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   was wondering it there's a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   listeners that were probably also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   wondering this how are you using it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   you know when you took these screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   and talked about the settings you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   unless i'm remembering it wrong i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   couldn't find anywhere where you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   and by the way this is what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   like whether it comes to scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   direction you know whether you allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51   to you know whether whether you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   little application active lights on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   the dock tell me about that I mean of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   the main points that you can recall off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   the top of your head how do you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   what's what's John's machine like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   a good that's a good topic to bring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:06   because it ties into another thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:09   people frequently ask me despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   fact that I do these big long news I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   almost never I can't I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   maybe with ten one I almost never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   upgrade my own personal main system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:20   the new operating system on the day it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   released almost never I can't even maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   with ten one I did it but I can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28   think of anything back that so all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:29   time that I'm using the OS for review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   purposes I'm using sort of mongrel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   installations a lot of the time when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   reviewing what I want is an empty hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   drive clean install to see what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   experience is like because I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   this early on what I what I used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   is clone my regular hard drive install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   on top of it and try it like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   that's not a good way to review an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   operating system because if you if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   used to have tons of stuff installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   still do have a lot of little tweaks if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:52   there's some little thing about my P [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:53   system in particular or some piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   software that I used it's screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   the experience hurting performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   making bugs that aren't really there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   it's easy to erroneously blame that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:04   the operating system one really is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   fault of some weird piece of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   that I had installed or some peculiarity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   of my thing so what I want to do most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   the time is have a clean install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   operating system like on an empty hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   drive so I can say this is the OS as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   exists because I want to separate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   from software compatibility issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   because those can be resolved like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   week after release if it's some trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   little bug or you know people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   software gets updated right so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   want to slam an entire OS and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   reviews of those all the time slamming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31   OS because it's not compatible as some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   piece of software that happened to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   and they write this big angry review and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   three weeks later that software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:37   updated that issue is gone so they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   wrote you know thousands of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   screaming about how horrible this OS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   for an issue that by the time most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:44   people read this review doesn't no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   longer exist right so I am almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   reviewing a stock system and as I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   I start to build it up to more like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   I'm like I could probably make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   easier but even now I could just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   right so I sign in with my mobile me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58   thing and I think I'm on these stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   I and I install Dropbox and I stick my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   Dropbox files and I throw a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   applications over there and it starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   become more my system right then I start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   to use it then I start to see how I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   this when I eventually have grade my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   main machine because that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   starts to look like my environment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   then I erase it install the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   developer build Nets process starts all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   over again so I really don't have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   idea really of how I'm going to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   use it when I upgrade the line I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   have a notion because I've used it long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   enough and sort of as I start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   converge towards what my environment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   like but I've been wrong before like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:33   I've used it you know for months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   months and developer seeds and say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:35   when I upgrade this I'm deathly going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   have this option in this direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   then when it goes into my main machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   maybe it's because some other software I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   have on a machine or like for example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42   rarely install drag thing on my machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:45   that I'm testing with but I always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:46   it installed in my on my main machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   that changes of the way I'm going to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   my options so so for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   scrollbar issue I went back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   and back and forth and that's so long in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58   the dev bills on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   the dev bills on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   normally on permanently off auto-detect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   I actually bought a Magic Trackpad so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   would have like the full swipey right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   wondered if you did that yeah I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:09   that way back when I actually bought on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   eBay cos I couldn't bring myself to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   whatever it is 70 bucks but I got a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   deal on one in eBay and of course I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   the laptop I was testing out so that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   a trackpad - you know the scroll bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   visibility at first I thought oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23   persons think was yeah how these on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   permanently always on no no question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   right then I used it more and more so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   left it in the auto detect or scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:33   bars invisible mode to do screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   and stuff and the thing the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:39   happened to me that happens a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   other people - is you start - if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43   an athlete if you like how things look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   all out of proportion to what benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48   you get from them looking nice if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   is less clutter on the screen right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   do get used to not seeing those scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:56   bars and that's generally the thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   Gruber pointed out is a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   because for example in that newswire an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   application that I always have open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:02   that I use all the time I work very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   to keep my subscription list in the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   hand sidebar so that no scrollbar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   visible because the interface gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   uglier when the scroll bar is visible so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   if I have to add another subscription I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   have to find something else to stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   into a folder so that my subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   don't go too long and extend past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   and make a scrollbar become visible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   if you have the scroll bars on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   the invisible hidden overlay mode you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   don't have to worry about that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29   so this is sort of a rational probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   counterproductive habit of mine of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   keeping that list of the scroll bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35   invisible simply because I find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   scroll bar uglier goes away I and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40   know you know it's it's removing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   mental clutter from from the O's my OCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   mind but it's not you know it's maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   it's just being groupers but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:47   think it's just the two of us you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   he doesn't like it see that scrollbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   visible and his stuff either yeah I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   in his mailbox list and something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   think a lot of people will get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   not having these scroll bars even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   they're minimized even though the scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:58   bars look not as glaring as a big blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:03   lozenge tube thing that it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   you'll get to the point especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   because most people run with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   defaults and then most Mac users have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   laptops with the defaults will be hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   we're one of those people will come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   to someone's computer where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   scrollbars visible because their geek or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   their using a Mac with just a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   attached or something and be like good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:20   like there they'll recoil at the look of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   a screen covered with all these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   lozenges on the edges of windows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   know say it's already happened with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   resize widget if you use line for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   while and you go back and see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   three tiny little 45 degree lines in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   lower right corner of a window yeah what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   the hell is that it's like someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   spit on your interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   it's like pinstripes never pinstripes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   yes and even look at a pinch right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   screenshot without freaking out those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   little resize stripes same thing already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   I can't even look at those anymore in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   the scroll bars in general are something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   that people like for example if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   into the web design world you'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   that people would often force scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3776">TS</a>]

01:03:00   bars in other words even if a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   didn't have the same amount of content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   as a page that would scroll in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   design in the CSS they would attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   force a scrollbar to appear so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:13   wouldn't have that jarring effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   going from an elegant main page that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   no scrollbar or from one article to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   another page or article that does have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   scrollbar and you the whole layout just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   sort of jumps around because of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   mean scroll bars have been a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   years for a lot I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   people who think this is this is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   even int just not just the OCD picky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34   people like us but people who design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   errs I was at that camp similar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:39   the else is obsessive about how things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   look is going to be designers yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:42   programmers and geeks but but yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:46   way that was the old Mac way the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   Mac OS way and that the policy I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   right in the Higgs said if your window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   can ever have content that goes beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   the bounds of the window you must show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   scroll bars all the time in active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   there'll be disabled scroll bars but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   they said they do not want scroll bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   suddenly appearing then suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   disappearing based on user action you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:05   know so if you make a lots of content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06   suddenly scroll bars appear no that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09   not the Mac Way Mac os10 introduced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   concept and the reason Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12   introduced that concept that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:13   baby step of of hidden overlay scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:16   bars because they said you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   windows looks much much cooler when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   don't have those screw out of scroll I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   snuck in them and I know in the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:22   Mac OS world we always said programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   please put scroll bars there just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   them inactive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   so the controls don't appear disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28   but take a look at this look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   terminal window here with one line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   prompt then and I know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   terminal look at this preview window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34   with it with an image in it that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   exactly fits the int the the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37   doesn't look much better especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   since now windows don't even have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40   borders and we just have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:41   transparent line you know around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   edge the less crisp looks nice and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45   we've got this little resize widget sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   of overlaying the content because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   have no place to put them when we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   have scroll alleys but it looks so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   nicer so let's do that let's in Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:53   10 let's decide that the policy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   designers one on that one and Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   from day one has been if you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   policy has been obviously every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   doesn't follow this but Apple always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   and I believe the Aqua using device is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   always said this if your content fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   exactly with me in the window there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09   reason to show up scroll bars and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   suddenly doesn't add the scroll bars on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   well now they're finally getting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   last place it's a you know alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16   and if it suddenly becomes too big still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   don't show the scroll bars torn you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   just don't show them at all if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:21   start scrolling then show them briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22   and so on and so forth and maybe you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   flash them when the content gets too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   we don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:26   it's they're trying to move away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   visual clutter and it's take a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   to do that because they know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   sacrificing information and I find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   feeling uncomfortable if not knowing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   there's more or forgetting if this more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   and that's so far for me it hasn't gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   away so as I was saying getting back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   how I'm going to do things I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   really like the way things look without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   scroll bars but I also start to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:47   hate being fooled by whether there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   more content or not and I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   pawing at things to tell if there's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:55   stuff there I you know I think when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:59   full time on my big monitor machines I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   going to have scroll bars always visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   then I'm continue to not have to fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   to not have the scroll bar my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   subscription pain in the newswire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   stuff like that on a laptop I think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:13   probably set it to auto mode in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:14   case they'll be hidden especially with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   small laptop I would do that well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   know you meant one thing I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   we mentioned you mentioned yet today on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   today's show but you did mention in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   article is a lot of the time when a when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26   a window opens it will sort of flash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29   scroll bars to indicate there's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31   here and then they'll sort of quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   fade away uh I noticed it sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:37   sometimes I don't notice it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   would think that there could be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   subtle visual hint I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42   attempt to suggest what that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   but you know it there could be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47   visual cue that was there that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   present for longer than that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   unobtrusive but would indicate there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   more content here in some fashion you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   would have thought that would be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   well the flashing is the way the user as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   I said in the review that yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   not very to use that when when suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05   when suddenly things change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   for instance one example would be when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10   you do like command G they'll find next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:11   when you're searching it what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   changed is your position when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15   documents they automatically teleported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   you to page 22 where the occurrence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   the word you were searching for appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:21   and they want to communicate to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   where you've landed in the document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   because you really have no idea just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25   command G right so then they flash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   scroll bars and then you see the scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   wires the scroll bars provide a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:30   amount of information you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   where their position is and the height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   of them tells you a whole bunch much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   more than just there's more stuff below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   there's more stuff below as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:39   mentioned the talk show I think was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:40   one if they did a fade at the bottom or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:42   anything you do that affects the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   area has real downsides because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:47   you're screwing with the people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:47   content you don't wanna be drawing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   top of it is that fade there or is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50   fade in the bottom of the image is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   image just fade out at the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:53   like if you end up havin looking at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   image in preview that happened to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   fade out at the bottom which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   uncommon if it's you know a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   gradient fade we would fool you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   thinking because you've been trained by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   that OS effect that means it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:06   content blended page down and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:07   would happen yeah it's really difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   to screw with the content area it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:12   overlays because they appear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:13   disappear it's clear they're not part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14   the contents clear they're transient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   they serve the same purpose as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:17   scroll bar but the proportional scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   thumb and all that stuff it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   great solution I don't know if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   one maybe maybe a great solution is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   have the scroll bars always visible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   further de-emphasize them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   I don't know mmm it's a difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   problem and every time I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   this I always question like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   important is it really to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   this this visual noise like are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   other places where you could get bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:42   bang for your buck getting rid of visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   noise then then sacrificing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   information provided by a scroll bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   I don't know I think we'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:52   experiment to determine but idea that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   that's how I think I'll use mango send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   the dots I will definitely have on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   the applications because mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   it's going to be a long time I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   very long before our applications are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   updated to allow auto termination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   because that's one of the that's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   easy to sell that to developers why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   should enable that though like no my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   application you can't terminate so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11   not going to able that feature ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   right that will be a difficult very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:16   difficult cultural change but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   shortly in the short term my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:19   applications are not going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   that maybe some allocations will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   be like that like you don't want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   mail application to ever be auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   terminated even if all the windows are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:25   hidden because you want it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:26   background receiving mail right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29   so I don't know how that's going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   every but yeah dots dots will be under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   my applications what other options other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   they'd be interested in how I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35   gonna run it you know to be honest those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:38   are the main two now there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   else I'll scroll direction scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   Direction that was the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   yeah all right so it's crawl direction I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   thought I had a couple people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   agreed with this point but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:49   heard echoed so much my main issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   scroll Direction well those two issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:53   one obviously is a consistency issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   everyone was talked about that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56   can reverse them and Snow Leopard border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   you have to use some other machine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:59   it's a transitional period you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   going to be all screwed up that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   frustrating but my main issue is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   don't use a laptop most the time I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   using a desktop and I'm using a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07   of the mouse attached to it and all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:10   might have scroll wheels and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11   they didn't my big thing is that finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   is grasped you know that your fingers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   a relaxed position when you can track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   the muscles your fingers grasp that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:20   fingers pulled down extending is a less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   natural motion the bigger the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   stronger muscles are in grasping you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   grip something much more tightly than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   you can push the back of your fingers up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29   against something it's just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   human physiology works and so I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:34   to be scrolling down all day long which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   I am because scrolling is always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:37   you're almost always going down right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   you're not scrolling up I want that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   be the motion that my body is most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   efficiently able to form and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   grasping so it's flicking down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   scroll wheel simply because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:49   physiologically that is that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:52   natural motion for fingers and I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   to be doing it all freaking day no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   I like touch base things I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   magic mouse touch part I don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   other parts of the magic mastery it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:00   too low and too heavy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   I like touching stuff like that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   the same thing on touch same thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   you want to be pulling towards yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09   it's not like the other way is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   cause me to break my fingers off or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13   simply less efficient and less natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   I'm sure I will get used to it but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:16   now I'm definitely going to have scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   direction in the quote-unquote normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   way which is kind of a shame because not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   that I'm ever gonna use launchpad but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:24   I did if you're on launchpad and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   have like a touch Mouse and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   scrolling set to like the snow leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:30   direction for you know pulling down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   see lower in the document then scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   feels backwards on launch pad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35   you see launchpad you like o on iOS mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38   let me swipe those icons and it goes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:39   opposite direction you know so you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   win it would be great if they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   change B you have independent axes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   know of like of vertical scrolling it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:48   kind of like a first-person shooter why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   what do they call it up inverted why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   every game it usually allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   invert the y-axis but keep the x-axis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   the same when right when you pass around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:57   because some people used to it it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   be nice if Mac os10 had inverted Y but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   kept the X the natural way so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   could swipe left and right among even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   you're just going swiping left or right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   on Safari and stuff like that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   like to have inverted Y but regular you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   know X and also I really like it if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   would unlink the trackpad preference of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16   the mouse preference I've had people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17   tell me if you change the mouse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   trackpad tracking in the correct order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:23   that you can change them independently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4343">TS</a>]

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01:15:14   feel like you were - you you I don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4514">TS</a>]

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01:15:18   but you were way not critical enough you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:22   are too nice even though you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   devoted a whole page to it you are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:27   too nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:28   about the visual interface changes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:33   do nothing except give the appearance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:37   slowing things down and the example is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:40   talking about a window that opens it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   starts from the central point of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   the window will be when it's fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:45   expanded and it animates the expansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48   of the window like you talked about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4548">TS</a>]

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01:15:53   twice as critical of that then you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56   I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:57   the horribleness of that that to me is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4557">TS</a>]

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01:16:04   lion just to get the new mail app it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   that good but I the war ABS for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:09   worst thing about it I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   a window animating from a tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:15   pinpoint grow it fit it does everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:18   that you again you perfectly nailed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   issue in in your article it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:24   it gives the perception of being much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   slower weather I mean I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   you would time this but the length of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31   time that it takes to open a new window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   in lion vs. Snow Leopard it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:37   pretty pretty much the same thing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:40   feels so much slower online and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:43   perception is that things take a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   time though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:45   now when you close the window it's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   instantly and you mentioned that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   it's just you close it's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51   ah but opening windows it's it's so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:56   and there's as far as I know there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:57   way to turn that off yet is there I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   not found a way I thought I was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4620">TS</a>]

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01:17:04   you were against the only but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   well my video in the entire review it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   wasn't enough yeah I mean I guess maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   my old age I don't go off on there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4630">TS</a>]

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01:17:16   new document does the animation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:18   explain logically why this animation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:21   different from other animation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4641">TS</a>]

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01:17:29   you should have brought it up five six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4649">TS</a>]

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01:17:32   rest of the interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4652">TS</a>]

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01:17:39   yelling about things maybe I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4659">TS</a>]

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01:19:26   setting or the default setting that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   can turn that off I don't want to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4768">TS</a>]

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01:20:23   brief searching I fully expected once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4823">TS</a>]

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01:20:33   started making me scared that it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4833">TS</a>]

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01:20:46   and if not someone from Apple then wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4846">TS</a>]

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01:21:22   got here the next day and it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:26   understanding is at a MacBook Air as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   portable computer does that check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   sure and your recommendation was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:34   you would you would use full disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:37   encryption on I believe that the phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:40   that you used was any comportable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:43   computer I travel with was that the crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:47   is that the correct terminology is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   the fresh I don't remember wording but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4909">TS</a>]

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01:21:52   think there's any possibility that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:53   would accidentally leave it somewhere it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54   could be stolen like if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   a traveling person you go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:57   airports or at hotels you know because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   lot of people get laptop computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   never leave their house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4921">TS</a>]

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01:22:04   and they almost never leave the house if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   they do they come with us to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:07   another relative so you're saying if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:08   take a computer with you to work or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10   coffee shops or or on trips like anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:13   could fall into someone else's hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:14   you're saying turn this thing on yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   also said performance performance does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:20   not seem to be affected when you tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:23   it did you did you test it on a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   powered you know high-end MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   with eight gigs of ram and i7 or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   actually let me before keep this thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:32   because I want to circle back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:33   something else we talked about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:34   sure it's related to this which is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   I was trying to get to in the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   about how I'm going to use line and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4958">TS</a>]

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01:22:42   build it up to um like lunaire erase it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:43   and try to test and clean installs yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46   and I said hi how I had an upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   line yet and I rarely do and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   immediately upgrade so the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   don't immediately upgrade my policy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   years has been let everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56   upgrade let everybody else find all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:59   problems in the operating system and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   the programs as most of the programs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:02   my mo is to keep the previous operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:05   system on my main system obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:06   have auxilary systems and stuff upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   them on my main important system where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4988">TS</a>]

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01:23:11   is over the coming weeks and months or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:14   don't know how long it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:15   update every one of the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   that I use to be lion savvy so whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19   it is default folder X which I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:22   upgrade that to the Y in version they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   already done that you know the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25   version of BBEdit if it wasn't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27   line savvy upgrade to the version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   is it I think it is already fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30   everything all the applications that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   use on a daily basis let everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   discover what the problems are they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36   in line and let me eventually end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   with a system running Snow Leopard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   nevertheless has all installed software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:43   absolutely ready for Lion and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:46   includes stuff like macfuse like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5026">TS</a>]

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01:23:50   fuse that works with with line I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51   have that installed in Snow Leopard if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53   possible you know if I have to rebuild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:56   any of my open source software and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   can't do it later you know rebuild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   64-bit versions or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5040">TS</a>]

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01:24:08   upgrade and have everything just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   immediately work because I spent all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5050">TS</a>]

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01:24:18   go with the with the upgrade process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   everyone thinks like I immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   upgrade the line running at all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5062">TS</a>]

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01:24:29   sitting in front of Snow Leopard at Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5069">TS</a>]

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01:24:32   Leopard of work because you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:33   disrupt your work environment oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34   sure everything's going to work and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   as a whole their issue in terms of IT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5076">TS</a>]

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01:24:45   encrypted almost the entire time using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   Lion Inn for the dev build so the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5087">TS</a>]

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01:24:56   what are these defaults or whatever fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:57   I did that and then I immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5099">TS</a>]

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01:25:01   and all the dev builds never a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:04   problem related to encryption never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05   corrupted my disk and I sure screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   around with a disk utility command you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   should you know did all sorts of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:10   that you shouldn't be doing it never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   a problem booting it never seemed slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:14   to me in any way no I didn't benchmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5114">TS</a>]

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01:25:17   people with spinning disks in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:20   you just won't notice now obviously if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   you're doing like video or even maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24   heavy-duty multitrack audio or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   like that there is going to be some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   of i/o hit for but I did not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:30   benchmarks in this there's another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   if I had more time I would've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5132">TS</a>]

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01:25:35   because I don't think line it was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   performance or benchmarking so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:38   not like there was a thrust of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   and I had to spend my time and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   thought was the most important some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5142">TS</a>]

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01:25:47   whole desk encryption versus Lions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   actually was a little slightly older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50   version of PGP whole disk encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:51   versus lines and lines encryption was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   twice as fast it's more now it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5153">TS</a>]

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01:25:58   it's but I think it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   imperceptible for normal usage browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5160">TS</a>]

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01:26:05   running Photoshop stuff like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07   usually not IO bound most of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   that you do and I think that Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:12   implementation is really solid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   the reason I said if you have a Mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   you think that's possibility could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   stolen the peace of mind you will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:20   from having that thing whole disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:21   encrypted is great and I said also based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:24   on my multiple years now of using a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:27   at work that it is entirely encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   you forget it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:29   there it has no software compatibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   issues except for the issue of one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:34   the third party product in the upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35   the OS and hoses you which I tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   about recently again updated to 1068 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:40   it hoes my PGP whole disk encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   obviously if it's made by the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   system vendor and built into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:45   operating system I would hope that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:46   wouldn't have those problems but no data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:49   loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:50   I've been paranoid ever since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   encrypted my Mac at work that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   going to somehow lose my drive because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:54   both of my drives are encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   including my time machine backup that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   was going to lose everything and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   know it hasn't happened I've always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   able to just boot from a recovery disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:02   you know I haven't forgotten my password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   so I wholeheartedly endorse Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:08   whole disk encryption based on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10   experience running it almost all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:11   time with the dead builds and based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   my experience with a third party product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   running all this encryption it is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:16   better than any you know it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19   invisible to application software all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   your applications people keep asking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:22   the super duper workers encrypted disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   how am i backups work how does time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:25   machine work your software has no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   the disk is encrypted that's the beauty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28   of it it looks like a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   unencrypted disk there are no software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32   compatibility if it's you know it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:33   right there no software compatibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:34   issues with anything except excuse me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:37   except maybe like boot loaders or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   boot process or whatever and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:40   would think Apple get that right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   combine that advice with the notion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   I don't even upgrade my computer until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   I'm sure all my application software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   works and you'll get sort of a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:49   of how I how I look at these things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   the review I don't want to say I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   like reviews that say the temper every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:56   single statement about the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:57   system with but you know you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   really wait before you upgrade because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:00   wouldn't trust this quite right out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   the box and like like flood like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:04   know tempering every nice thing you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   or every interesting feature with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:08   but there's no way I would try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:09   until at least six months after it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:10   been out for a while to find the bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:11   that's true of every single piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   software ever not just zero point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:14   and it weakens the review and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:17   pointless to constantly reiterate after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   everything every every feature you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20   describe but don't even try this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   because it's probably gonna be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23   bugging you should wait six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   overall if you are concerned about bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   compatibility wait six months period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   that's not gonna do with an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   feature and it's not a slight on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:32   product itself it's true of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:33   it's true even a point release like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   shouldn't I shouldn't have been stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:36   and upgraded to ten six eight by just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   clicking a button you just get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:39   doing that you know 10xy you just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:42   used to doing the wire releases all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:43   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:43   - sup date I should have waited a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:46   read on the web or looks for hey anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48   have any issues with 1068 I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:50   immediately found the PGP hole disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:51   encryption people having problems and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   you know don't upgrade immediately just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:56   for the hell of it and this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   that's something and I talked about at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5338">TS</a>]

01:28:59   the end I think in the recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   section was trying to say don't be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   hurry upgrade you know if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   great right away fine but you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:06   better off if you just wait that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:07   that's true of all software period it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:10   not particularly true of line now if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:11   had individual experiences with the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:14   dev builds that led me to believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:15   lion was buggy or the whole disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:16   encryption was buggy I probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   have said oh I use holdest I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:20   use whole disk encryption all through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:21   the dev builds but it never quite worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:22   so I don't quite trust the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:24   someone even that might not be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:25   because Apple has done some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   turnarounds over the years where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29   feature has been buggy buggy buggy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:31   up until like the very last build and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:32   then it's rock-solid and users don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34   know about this visit and run the dev [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   build but they've had some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:37   releases where just before like the bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:39   before the retail release everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41   suddenly becomes super rock-solid in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:43   particular feature and never and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:45   back slides so my recommendation on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:48   is if you are running lion now if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:51   made that plunge then I would say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53   make the encryption plunge again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:56   you have to have good backups you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:57   be prepared for disaster don't trust it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5397">TS</a>]

01:30:00   implicitly but that's that's true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:03   anything not just because of encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:04   any minute you mentioned would super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   something like SuperDuper work Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   Machine work it's going to but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   cloning the drive is the clone gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:14   encrypted or no oh no people have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17   edge I just want to I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:18   clarify that because SuperDuper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:21   operating at a system level which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   above the level of the encryption so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:26   sees regular files I just want people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   understand this because if not you I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:29   trying to save you emails John oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   still getting them trust me alright but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:34   yeah I mean if you said it would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:35   same thing as copying a file to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   another hard drive over a network it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:39   it's going to decrypt it instantaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:41   you're not going to know it was ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:43   encrypted super duper doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:44   what's encrypted so of course anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   that you do like that including your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   Time Machine backup so you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:49   encrypting your Time Machine backup what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   if I want to do both lines encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:54   and PGP encryption will they play nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:57   I don't think that's possible did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58   test it no okay so you're really your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01   review is incomplete then yeah okay sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:04   don't even try that is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:07   that will work at all I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   just I don't think it'll house you data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:10   but I think I'll almost certainly render [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   your system unbootable and so you advise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:15   against that yeah don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   all right so maybe the way to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   about if I had known this it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:20   such an issue of confusion I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   tried to clarify more in their view but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:23   the way to think about it is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:24   you turn your machine on whether using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   PGP or line or whatever you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   get this prompt that wants a password it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:29   hasn't done anything yet it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:31   need to give me the magic word to allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:35   access to this drive once you give that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37   magic word on that very early firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:40   based like it hasn't booted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:41   operating system it hasn't it has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:43   idea what's on your drive your drive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:44   just a completely opaque bucket of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   scrambled binary crap at this point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   it puts up a UI and says type in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   password after you type that password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   from that point on pretend your disk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   not encrypted and then then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   questions like well to make a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:57   machine back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:58   will it be encrypted you answer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   question by going back to that rule I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:01   just said after you enter that password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   your pretend your drive is not encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   okay your drive is not encrypted you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:06   make a time machine back up as a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   machine back up encrypted no because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   after you enter that password drive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:12   not encrypted period so I think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:13   be fun to call this the show come what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:17   was the thing completely what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:20   just say it's great Leo Baeck bucket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:23   bucket of a coronary cram room yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   completely opaque bucket of binary crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:29   that is not the show because the show if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   you were to run the file utility on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:32   from the old world of critics say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   know audio file or whatever so we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:39   you simply fake so listen how are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:41   going to how we going to handle upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43   shows we can adjust we just going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:45   section by section from now on until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:47   we're done till the next OS is out yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:50   I think we hit the highlights here but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:51   think there's more in there a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   in there and remember like in my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   from the previous show we had a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   bunch of follow-up that we had the shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:58   that's totally not line related so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00   that's out there lurking in the back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02   I've I've been adding to that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:03   there's still markdown out there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:04   yeah next show I think we'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06   lines some more I think so I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   need to because this is great and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10   congratulations so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:11   if you want to support John's excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:14   work on this piece obviously go read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:17   if you want to support John directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:19   what's the best way for them to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:21   go they can either sign up I will put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23   the shownotes link my Amazon referral a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:26   link for the Kindle eBook some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   are buying even though they don't plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   to read it but just fine you just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   to give some money gruber length if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:34   want to go during fireball his link was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   the Amazon referral link but I will also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   put it in the show notes so if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39   daring fireball the net and search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   my name or on that xix you will find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:42   that siracusa posts that he made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:45   there's the referral link or I'll put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:48   in the show notes you can follow John as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   siracusa nosy on Twitter and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:56   so we'll be back we'll be back regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:57   time next week I plan on next week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5637">TS</a>]

01:34:00   will be on vacation yeah but you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:02   really take a vacation from this show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:04   what happened yeah I planned I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   recording for vacation but I got word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:07   from my brother who went down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   beach house yesterday that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11   who own the beach house are planning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:13   sell it and have canceled their internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   access and we have no internet access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17   whatsoever so you're canceling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19   vacation no we're gonna have to mix next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:22   next week's show unless you find some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   magical way to give me an internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   connection I would just assume like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28   you're planning to go somewhere and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   discover that there's no internet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:32   can't have it vacations off yeah yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   but that's not that's an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   all right well actually let me look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39   the calendar let me say we figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41   I'll be I'll be back you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43   can do another weekend I'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:44   weekend special again we'll do another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46   so yeah Saturday or Sunday are both open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49   so we could do weekend they will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:50   something special maybe this becomes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   know like a like a Sunday afternoon show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54   until things say equilibrium is restored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:58   I told you about this vacation a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5698">TS</a>]

01:34:59   time ago but yeah this is my one summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:01   vacation every year my wife and kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:03   down there now actually I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:04   joining them after a few more days work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06   well well the next time if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:09   just clear it with me you know a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   months in advance I did tell you about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14   long time ago but you what did I say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:15   now the faith is there she'll keep track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17   of these oh she sure will she's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19   all right so listen everybody follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:20   John siracusa on Twitter you can follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:23   me on twitter dan benjamin and go to 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5723">TS</a>]

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01:35:29   don't rate the shows there you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:30   all of the old shows there you can rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:32   the show on iTunes which we appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:34   and go to 5x5 TV such contact which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:38   the appropriate place to send us an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:41   explanation as to how to turn off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:43   useless graphical user interface tweak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:46   in line and that's about it we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:51   y'all again next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:52   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5752">TS</a>]

01:36:00   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkXHGZw/5760">TS</a>]