00:00:02 ◼ ► this is hypercritical weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/4">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► so perfect that it can't be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► about by the host of this show John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► siracusa I know him from Ars Technica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► and elsewhere and by me I'm Dan Benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► we would like to say thanks very much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► fresh books calm and shopify calm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/23">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► making this show possible and also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/26">TS</a>]
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00:00:33 ◼ ► Virtual Private servers submerged in oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► seriously check them out and Midas green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► tech dot-com how are you today Jon big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► week for you well may or may be not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► you're saying that you're saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/46">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► that's delivery and fourth hand rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► but the story I've got is that no Lian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► this week I thought it was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► yesterday obviously it wasn't and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► I've heard is that it's not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/62">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► this week do we have a reason why no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► this is I'm very far removed from these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► rumors but by the time they get to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► all I get is not this week that's uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/70">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► disappointed in so am i I hoped it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► be yesterday I'm not disappointed in now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► understanding why and warning me oh for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► not understand so what is the day you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► hearing now the nineteenth now I hear I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► have no date rumored all I know is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► this week and I only know that vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/94">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► third hand so I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► what they're waiting for but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/99">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► that's actually one of our follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► yeah well it's vaguely follow-up related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► I have a whole bunch of all up today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/106">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► we do have the markdown thing as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► main topic but I actually have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► follow-up to push that to another show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► if we really wanted to Wow so this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► be an antenna see this is why I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► compartmentalizing things I do I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► that you do but my feeling is that if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► stopped calling it follow-up and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► talked that that is somehow it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► more freeing because if it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► well we did 90 minutes of follow-up well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► was the main table it was just topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► just topics that are perhaps recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► topics yeah how about this you call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► follow up I'll call it recurring topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► and we'll both be happy yeah there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► difference was follow up is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/144">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► be talking about things that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► discussed on past shows versus things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► that are just here something interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► in the news or an interesting topic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► we've never talked about before I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► differentiation I mean they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/156">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► to make like I bet I'm willing to bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► that you talk to your wife every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► single day about the house or the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► or whatever you don't go to her oh honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► I have some follow-up for you about da [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► follow-ups but shows have format well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► for me this is my life for me this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/173">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► I like the follow-up all right fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► which again so the first one is a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/181">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► that went around maybe one around last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► week and we just didn't get to her in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► the show it was a giggle story that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/188">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► headline was Facebook trapped in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► sequel fate worse than death or MySQL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► fate worse than death if you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► that way and the gist of the story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► that Facebook had sort of bit off more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► that it could chew with its number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► mice equal instances this is a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► from the thing it says that Facebook has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► split its my sequel database into four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/214">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► thousand shards and all order to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► the site's massive data volume and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► running nine thousand instances of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► memcache or memcache D in order to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► up with the number of transactions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/224">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► database must serve now this is all not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► from Facebook officially but it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► someone named Michael Stonebraker which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► apparently one of the one of the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► behind ingress really old relational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► database system that eventually spawned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► Postgres and he's gone had done a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► of other database related projects he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► been a professor at the University of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► California Berkeley I believe and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/250">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► current business is another database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► co-founder and CTO of that company so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► the slash just on this thread was well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/261">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► says that Facebook is screwed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► they use my sequel right and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► gist of this story well get the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► it's in the fall because we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► how Facebook was what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► for scaling and they were the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► was taking taking existing open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► off-the-shelf software and bending it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/285">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► their needs so they use PHP which is off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► the shelf but they've done all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/291">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► crazy things with it I've since heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► supposedly compiling PHP into C++ but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► haven't heard what they've replaced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► with I don't know if that's true but any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► write they use PHP apparently they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► my sequel I hadn't seen that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► story denied but they're using it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► just a massive scale so I mean a one my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► splitting it up into ten or twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► shards fine but when you have four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► thousand memcache servers to you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► you don't hit the my sequel databases as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► much that's pretty darn big so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► slash comments were that this guy has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► complex of interest obviously because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► he's from a competing database thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► the most convincing argument I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► against this article was that Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► works you know we're saying you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► my sequel you're really screwed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► when you get to the large scale it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► going to work well who's larger scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► than Facebook they have like 700 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► users and it may be a horrible ugly hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► but the bottom line is they took this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► thing this crappy database and I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► big my sequel fan I like Postgres way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► better well they took this this crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► open source thing and you know through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► force of will and engineering and money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► highest scale you could possibly be at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► mean who's who's doing something are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► going to tell them if you're really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► you're in trouble who's bigger than them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► so it's an interesting case of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► this guy the Stonebraker guy I'm sure he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► knows what he's doing I'm sure volt DB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► is great I love Postgres I like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► much better than my sequel his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► technical knowledge is completely sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► but in practice he's got a database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► product that nobody is using at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/390">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► scale and my sequel has is used at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/391">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► to blow up at any second but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/400">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► probably true of all Facebook is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► it's just a gigantic pile of crap at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► this point it's amazing that it stays up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► but it does you know so you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► can't tell someone that their choice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/409">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► Technology is a deal breaker when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► they're actually using it and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► scale that you've been warning them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/415">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► about that's fine to bring that star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► back up I just thought it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► funny although I am rooting for volt DB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► relational databases they're great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► all but no one has really figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► the magic scaling fairy dust I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► don't know if Stonebraker was the author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► of this paper but is that the cap theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► of scaling you ever heard of that see ap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► maybe you can explain it I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► I I don't have it in my notes I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► go over memory so it's it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► saying what are this who in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► room can bring this up see is for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► P is for network partitioning and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► one of them is for a is for availability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► it's basically saying that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► have all three of those things if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► want two of them you have to sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► one of them so I wanted nicer than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► if you want to be resilient to network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► partitions like you you lose network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► connections between the hosts then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► can't have one of the other two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/469">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► you can't have consistency everywhere or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► you can have you know 100% availability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► and so on and so forth so it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/474">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► consistency and partition tolerance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► partition tolerance so really there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► should be a T at the end of it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► harder to say it's just a nice way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► think about like it's a nice formalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► having like an Oracle RAC cluster where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► you have a bunch of machines running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► relational database versus something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► that's like eventually consistent where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► you may not see the latest data right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► away but eventually you will and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► distributed and resilient and always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► available that you you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► various trade-offs of how to scale data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► out and this is a problem that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► not solved which is why there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► activity that's there you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► CouchDB MongoDB volt DB there's even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► menace and something else to projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/515">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► interface to it but instead of but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► you pull the plug the data doesn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► away it's on disk somewhere a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► bunch of the and the no sequel databases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► that you know a couple of them I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► the stuff that Google's got internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► and HBase and you know all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► things this is not a solve problem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► it's it's I wish it was a solved problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► relational databases were solve problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► and Postgres if you want a relational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► database Postgres is like the pinnacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► of evolution of epics it's free open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► non-commercial you don't have to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► million dollars to Oracle for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► it's a great relational database so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► you want a relational database there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► one for you but relational databases are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► heavily on the side of consistency and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► are very far away from you know Network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► partition tolerance and and availability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► and on the internet the trade-off seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► to be in the other direction where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► want it to be available and they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► to be resilient to network failures but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► if things are not consistent right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► that's okay for like your Facebook page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► or you know something like that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► not for banking transactions which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► why the banks still use relational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► databases but this is not a solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► problem and it's a very interesting area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► grandkids when they go to start their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► technology start they say oh and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/591">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► just use this for our data storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► we know that it scales infinitely and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► don't have to tweak it and we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► to worry about I would just Chuck our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► data into it and as big as we get we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► be fine but that day is not here yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/599">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► that was another link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► that I'm assuming you put there about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/605">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► the Google+ thing we asked anything yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► there was a Google engineer showed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► and said ask me anything and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► specific to the infrastructure behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► Google and I thought that that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► touched on one of the topics that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► brought up which was not so much an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► infrastructure one as a software one as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► far as Howard Howard how is this working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► how is it scaling he kind of addressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► that yeah I read through it as I skimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► through most of it I read the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► that piqued my interest it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► more of a follow-up to what you talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► about and build and analyze with marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► wondering like how we were generating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► the source code because he had to parse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► but was obviously machine generated not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/648">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► human generated in that QA they talked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► lot about what they used client-side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► a little bit of what language they wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► the application in like I said they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► Java and they didn't use GWT but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► never talked about what exists on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► server side they didn't say where what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► what their data model is or how their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► servers are distributed or how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► communicate or anything like that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► typical Google fashion they will tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► compiler which we released as open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► sourced it's really good great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► should try it and they'll tell you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/678">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► they use GWT and they'll tell you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► language they don't use go apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► and this but nothing about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/683">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► continues to protect its its crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► jewels by not talking about them in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► particular detail but does talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/693">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► the client-side stuff which I guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► wants to spread because it wants web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► applications to be as good as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► be so it's Google's tools advantage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/699">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► applications in terms of the client side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► but the server side still keeping close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► to the best so next item here is a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► bot show bot Emmy yeah from Jeremy Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/711">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► explaining the origins of show bots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► how he the IRC throttling business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► how he rewrote it and where it's hosted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► and so on and so forth so I put that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► the show notes people should follow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► I wholeheartedly endorse the show bot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/728">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► well let's oh hold on let's take a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► back because right right now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► like super meta and we need to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► unfold this a little bit so for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► people who only listen to this show as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► podcast as an audio thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► download or even for the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► listen live but don't know there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► what we refer to as a chat room and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► chat room if you go to five by five dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► TV slash live there's a little button a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► little link there that says chat room or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► something I should know what it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► because I wrote the page but I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► remember and it essentially initiates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► within your web browser a connection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► the 5x5 IRC channel on freenode net so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► if you happen to be a true geek and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► like to use IRC independently not in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/777">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► web client you can just go to freenode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► then join the channel the 5x5 channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► there we'd love to have you and during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► the show these people communicate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► us and they correct all the mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► that we make or I make and give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► little links and other interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► things and you know it's it's it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► chat room it's the chat we love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/800">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► periodically people would come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► the title suggestions and things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► comments and other things that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► relevant to the show or people would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► hey well when is the show going live or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► whatever and this this kid who is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/814">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► kid Jeremy he said you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► going to write this this bot and the bot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► is going to sit in the channel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/823">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► suggestions that people make in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► charrids great and this is the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► this is the story of show bots and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► new show botany website it's a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/835">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► complaining about how it was very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► and doling out the titles afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► because of IRC throttling so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► that's what's website gets around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► website loads immediately you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► all the titles and it's a cute little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► divides it up by show so it knows when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► the shows start and starts collecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► titles for that show it's great it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/855">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► next thing I have is it's about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► lion I mean we're both disappointed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► line wasn't out yeah I still blame you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► for that I think they got wind of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► of your article coming and they said not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► so fast John oh but I hate when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► happens because now now my article which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► is done and edited and copy edited it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/878">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► aging and I'm out here knowing first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► all I know there's tons of things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► didn't include in the article no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► how long a review is there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► stuff that gets left out sure one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► inevitable comments it's always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► this is too long and boring that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► obvious comment in the second comment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► why didn't you talk about block whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► interested in is just you cannot talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► about everything it's in an operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► system released I have to pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► things that are interesting to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/904">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► that the worst part is when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► describe my reviews as comprehensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► they're anything but comprehensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► comprehensive implies that they cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/911">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► everything that there is to cover on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► operating system they do not do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► they cover what I think are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► important topics and cover them in lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► of depth so they're thorough you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► say the thorough if you if you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► the thoroughness as how deep is each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► topic that I talked about explored but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► they're not comprehensive tons of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► mentioned and you have a section at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► grab-bag where I just throw out random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/933">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► stuff that I found so what I usually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► is right up to the point where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► published I'm throwing stuff into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► grab bag where it's like oh here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► something else I forgot or I go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► my notes oh I forgot to mention this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► this is a neat feature or maybe I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► throw that in there this would make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/945">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► good screenshot just the little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/946">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► you know and I used to be able to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► tons of those little things so that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► like if I saw any other little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► out there on the web of people looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► at pre releases or whatever I collect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► them in my notes and put them in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► but now I'm holding off on editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► because the process those sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► workflow process at ours where it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► through editing and copy editing and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► it's being transformed into other forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► think they're doing you know they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► the PDF version ebook versions stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► that's also much more formalized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► that and the people are still working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► that workflow and if I start editing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► original at this point I'm screwing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► up is they have to start there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► it's not it's not automated a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► is done by hand and people are doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► so I'm not free to randomly add stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► the review but I have things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► could add to it like just you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► little things here or there mostly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► the grab bag section and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► couple of major features that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► have covered if I had more time but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► it's got it's not like a print deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► but it's kind of like that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► you're once you enter the machinery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► the publishing process you're not free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► to edit not free dude keep writing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► stop writing at some point you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► some point yet the ship so I've picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► that point basically and yesterday I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► think it made my last edit to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► article which is just some a few wording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► after the copy editing was done and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► that's it this is what it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► so inevitably when the review comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► people are going to say why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► talk about this or I read this elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► and this review is supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► comprehensive why didn't use it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► have everything no no one review has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► anything a Mac os10 is just too big for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► that what I hope I did is I covered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► these parts that I thought were most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► significant about Lion and a few of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► more esoteric technical parts that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► found interesting and that's all I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► hope to do so if people are disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► because I didn't cover your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► feature or didn't complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► thing that annoys you and I guess we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► talk about this more when the review is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► published but the reason it comes up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► this follow-up topic is that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► one of the reasons that I think perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► that line could be delayed because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► this point I don't think they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► because they announce to developers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► hey do you want your stuff to be on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► the Mac App Store build it with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► current GM see the lion and submit it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► us so they're basically asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► developers to use the GMC they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► build their Mac applications and send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► them to Apple for submission to the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► believing Apple would say oh yeah feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► free to build your applications on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► pre-release version of the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► system and we'll put them in the nack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► App Store so it seems like this GM seed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► is going to be the actual GM right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► but what you had said is that for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► of us who have and I have not but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► those of us who have installed this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► are not going to be able to update so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► that when the first dot release or point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► update or whatever drops you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► we won't be able to use software update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► to update the GM oh what I said was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► you can't update to the gene you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► up you software update on any release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► that is not the final retail release bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► for bit really yeah now if they declare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► that this GM seed is the actual GM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► they release it to the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► without changing a single bit on it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► then yeah you could you can but isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► that what you're saying that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► no because they could they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► something like for example in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► they've when they've declared an RC to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► be the release it's not bit for bit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► same like the very least they'll change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► the software version plist which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► buried down there just to change it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► be you know ten point x point zero or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► whatever now historically they are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► this most recent release they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► to do that because I believe systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► softs system version that plist does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► have ten seven zero in it but the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► line is you don't know until you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► something on the Mac App Store is every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► single bit of this identical to the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► we have is the build number the same or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► all the the strings is saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► license agreement everything you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► it exactly the same software or did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► do another sort of release build where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► they didn't recompile the software but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► they just change the metadata and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► packaging and then distributed that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► that's why I say wait one was if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► going to be another GM seed obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► you're screwed and the other is even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► there's not another GM see that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► changed something small about it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► could be the software up they've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► refused updated so because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► uncertainty I recommend it against doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► that and just assuming that you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► fine you can't assume that you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► fine you might be but you might not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► that's why I said don't upgrade but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► was thinking what so if that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► if this is if they're not going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► another GMC but what's the delay other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► than to make it so we can't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► Lian for another week show is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► are new Hardware rumors right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► hardware there's and there's a handful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► Hardware rumors not just that not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► couple first they came out with new I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► mean everybody's been talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► MacBook Airs being refreshed with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► the Sandy Bridge and the Thunderbolt so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► that's that's been out there in the wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► for a little while but then another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► rumor came well they're also getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► lighted backlit keyboards and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► got a whole bunch of new serial numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► that they were saying oh these are for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► the new Mac Pros but it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► they're there apparently not for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► Pros they're for new the the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► plastic Mac books and Mac minis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► themselves will be updated in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► weeks - so you think that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► holdup is if the GM they feel really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► good about it they're ready to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► it what could be the holdup the holdup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► is a hardware why not release the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► hardware our first sponsor today whom we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► would like to greatly thank for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► this show possible as FreshBooks comm if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► you run your own business and rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► invoicing to get paid then you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► check out fresh books fresh books lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► you focus on your actual work not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► paperwork it's just the fastest way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► track time organized expenses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► invoice your clients I use and I love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► are you still retyping client addresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► calculating invoice totals in Excel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► can just put all that stuff behind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► when you think of accounting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► you have unorganized spreadsheets in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► shoebox of receipts I'm telling you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► know exactly what this is like if fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► books changed all of this for me I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► will for you and for your business too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► and here's the cool part getting started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► is completely free you just go to fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► books calm you sign up for a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► account and they're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► special for five-by-five listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► they're going to give away and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► done this before they're continuing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► they're giving away a birthday cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► every week to somebody who signs up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► this show all you need to do for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► chance to win it is where they're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► you how you heard about us you enter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► hypercritical and and know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► if they win you can still win a birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► cake check them out at FreshBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► dot-com what you think well finally they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► do believe that there that there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► some new hardware in our near future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► like it in a few days I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► many days I thought you said and I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► air is obvious it needs to be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► you know but but when there's any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► of hardware rumor every hardware rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► gloms onto it's like you said is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► machine you can think of you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► I haven't heard is like new Mac and new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► iMacs right at least no one has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► that because those were just updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► with the Thunderbolt and everything uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► basically Apple's gonna put I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► Thunderbolt on all all Macs they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► going to get it they're all going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► it it's a matter of when and what other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► updates are going to come along as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► of that and end for delay reasons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► could say well they're gonna want lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► to ship on these new machines so even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► it did go GM back when this was released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► on the 1st of July or whatever even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► this was the official GM takes a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► to get that you know the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► manufacturing lead time to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► software on the machines to ship them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► out yet don't get it I've got to tweak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► whatever installation settings to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► it just right and all the defaults for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► the particular system and then they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► got to get a print those that they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► ship they do ship with DVDs still a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► of them so to get a press those they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► got oh yeah that'll be interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► see will they come when you buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► machine comes with line will it come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► with a DVD I'll have to well obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► the air is won't they'll come with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► little USB stick but you'd assume they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► have to but it kind of wouldn't be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► of weird that like you can't buy Lion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► a DVD but if you buy a new Mac it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► with one well so here's here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► question that I have and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► the one topic that I had on my list that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► I absolutely wanted to talk to you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► and that is this let lets say that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► sure that somewhere on this planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► somebody has a small work group of Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► and they are not on a fiber connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► to the end I mean I I know it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► believe but somewhere out there this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► exists and that person is saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► know what I would like to update these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► computers to lion and I can I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► because we don't have the right kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► internet connection that would make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► possible or we don't have any internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► connection we're a secret lab somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► no no only one door whatever and how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► they going to install this they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► you can't tell me that the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► is going to be the only way to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► this that you won't be able to buy a DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► that's what you're saying I know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► think Apple announced that but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► that's a bigger Thor is the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► for you to buy Lion that's not obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► it comes with your new Mac so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► we're getting into a territory of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► review but I have a whole page on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► but I'm planning to read this review do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► we do a dramatic reading of your review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► by the way we'll get to that later all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► right so yeah so I think I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► what the physical media situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► going to be but the bottom line is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► don't think Apple Apple has to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► thing onto the new machines because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► don't want to ship machines now they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► have Snow Leopard on them if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► brand new they have to be coming with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► line so the most interesting rumor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► I saw here also most likely to be false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► was the rumor about Mac Pro's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► when they thought the back when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► thought the serial numbers were for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► Pros and other things before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► discovered the serial numbers weren't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► don't know if I even believe either one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► of those that the serial numbers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► for Mac Pro's or that they're now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► determined not to be it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► those rumors are extremely sketchy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► the discussion of the Mac Pros and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► whether they need to be updated and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► that update might look like is eternally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► interesting to me especially since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► believe the current Mac Pro's external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► design has been with us for eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► is it eight all right yeah because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► well it started with the g5 yeah our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► side office eight years but it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► ridiculously long amount of time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► that machine has not been refreshed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► externally inside the inside they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► changed a lot obviously used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► PowerPC chips but everything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► inside what where the motherboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► where the RAM is where the drives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► everything about it has been changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► inside but the outside it kind of looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► certainly false rumor from days ago this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► is from nine to five Mac was that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► would have a redesigning closure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► narrower and rack-mountable and 16 core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► CPUs and Thunderbolt and blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► happy I hadn't heard that around far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► right recommendable seems like it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► a crazy pipe dream they just killed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► XOR why in the world would they produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► another rack mountable computer but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► outside you know they could say well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► was an enterprise computer but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► actually just a Mac Pro that's squished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► well this kind of enters into the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► this put this happens every time every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► time that they're sort of rumors out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► there lurking if if the rumors aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► answered promptly by whatever the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► release is that's initially creating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► if there isn't a swift response like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► rumors come out and then six days later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► Apple has the the release then you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► getting all these weird now I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► would be great I mean if you're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► me what would I like to have of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► I'd love to have a have a Mac Pro that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► could slap a you know a slider on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► end of it and just rackmount the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► mean would that be great that'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► perfect of course and yeah this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► ancient net you know in computer terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► ancient enclosure yeah it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► enclosure but you know it Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► really really pushing limits of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► can do with space so why don't we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► smaller enclosure do we need all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► space still you know no we don't let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► make it smaller let's let's let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► inventive with with the way that we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► it I mean look at the Mac Mini something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► between give us something between a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► expandability or close to it of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► current Mac Pro and that you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► that would thing would sell really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► and hey by the way put some rails on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► it'll go right in the rack that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► you start thinking that that's too good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► that's one of the things I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► about the reason why to bring this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► not so much that I believe these Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► rumors but that well there's two topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► first is the X Mac which which Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► didn't mention I'm build and analyze for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► people who don't know I put a link to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► my old ex Mac story the X Mac it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► little X capital M I believe this term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► originated in the ARS technica forums I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► tried to research it back when I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► this article to see if I could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► earlier instances of it and I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► so I'm going with that I the X Mac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► the term for basically for the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► between the iMac and the Mac Pro it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► big gaping hole and apples lineup that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► been there forever that you could buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► all-in-one computer with a monitor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► everything and it's a cute little iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► and the iMac goes of course changed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► much over the years but it's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► an all-in-one thing or you can get a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► Pro which is a big honking tower with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► more expandability than almost anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► it's big and noisy and heavy and super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► expensive right and there's an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► huge gap between those two computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► there's nothing there so the ex Mac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► the term for the computer would slot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► there now since it's so vaguely defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► everybody thinks the ex Mac is whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► kind of computer they want so depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► on what they want out of the ex Mac they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► will just map their desires onto it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► only thing you need to have is it it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► have a built-in monitor right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► can't be as big as the Mac Pro but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► everything else is all open season so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► my old ex Mac article I wrote a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► about what I thought of would be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► Mac X Mac not that I thought Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► going to do it but it was my take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► here's what I wanted for for the X Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► my current definition of the X Mac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► I think is a reason is what most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► the vast majority people mean when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► talk about it at least the Nerds the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► arstechnica nerds and other people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► that you know obviously it's not not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► iMac and not a Mac Pro what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► is it has user serviceable RAM hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► drive and video card like like a Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► it doesn't have an embedded or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► integrated video like it has an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► video card not one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► that's soldered on the motherboard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► integrated into the CPU and you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► more than one the hard drive it those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► three bullet points are probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► only ones you can get everyone agreed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► for the X Mac what it boils down to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► if for example gamers is a good thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► you want to do games on a Mac you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► to buy stupid Mac Pro because the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► cards in the IMAX have always been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► awful they've gotten a lot better over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► time in fact the current one is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► pretty darn good and it's actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► believe an external card now although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► it's not user serviceable because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► iMac is pretty well sealed up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► don't want to be digging in there but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► you want a good if you want the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► available video card that you can get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► a Mac you have to buy a Mac Pro which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► a huge waste because this is this huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► volume of space in there and slot so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► you're not going to use and and hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► drive slots and all this stuff and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► seems like such a waste of money to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► a huge expensive three thousand alot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► computer just because you want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► games so it's like give me give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► small computer that has a big fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► gaming video card but otherwise is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► compact and quiet and maybe holds two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► hard drives instead of four and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► doesn't support dual socket CPU is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► one CPU is enough for gaming just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► it the high clock speed you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► doesn't have to have as many cores Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► does not make that machine and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► always want it so anytime there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Mac Pros and other instance of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► saying well Mac Pro is really old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► wouldn't be great if there were a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► bit smaller because it seems so big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► the everyone just everyone will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► back to the X Mac they don't know the X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► Mac name but that hole in the lineup is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► there and they will converge on it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► their rumors and desires and the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► Apple doesn't make that machine are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► pretty obvious first first the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► important now is probably because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► people buy laptops Apple sales have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► majority of laptops for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► it continues a shift in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► so Apple's attention paid to the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► line as always it's always kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► second fiddle to the portables but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► beyond that there's not really any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► upside for Apple and building the X Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► it would necessarily have lower margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► than the Mac Pro because the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► is it wouldn't be as expensive as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► Mac Pro it's not supposed to be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► g4 cube where it's small and cute but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► also super expensive it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► cheaper otherwise why not just buy a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► Pro it's also more complex than the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► so it's kind of one of those don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► me think situations where Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► want a customer to come into the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► and say well I could buy this iMac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► people tell me there's this other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► where you get the monitor separate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► it could be less expensive or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► expensive depending on how you configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► they don't like that confusion that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► not the Apple Wave it's no one goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► the the Apple Store confused where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► should get a Mac Pro or an iMac because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► if you want an AK Pro you know you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► a Mac Pro right if you don't want a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► Pro guess what you get in an iMac or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► laptop right so it's like portable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► not portable and then once you pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► once you pick not portable I don't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► you want to call desktop once you big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► desktop the choice is really easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► there's no confusion so why would Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► customer confusion that lowers their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► margins cannibalizing sales of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► Pro most likely more than pulling people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► up from the iMac it just doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► any financial or practical sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► than ever to produce this Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► computer nerds would love that for there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► to be one and I would too barring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► which I don't think is ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► happen what I would like to see is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► revision to the Mac Pro enclosure for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► couple of reasons first is it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► fashion like don't you get bored with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► the same everyone else gets redesigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► different ways a Sunday even even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► laptops which are so limited in how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► portable and you know there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► limited number of things you can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► laptop those have changed radically over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► the years in subtle ways and the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► even more radically but the stupid Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► Pro you know it's time for us to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► for the Mac Pro to change more slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► than the other models but it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► change like I don't want to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► case I don't want to be buying my third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► computer that looks like a giant cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► grater let's just let's draw the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► somewhere but internally there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► actual practical issues that can that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► can be fixed so actually before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► internally externally those handles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► they're super sharp and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► particularly comfortable they may look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► cool but and they're better than no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► handles but they're not great to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► the thing up from not that I carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► around my Mac's a lot people who work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► labs or any other place else where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► do actually have to lift these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► you know that those handles are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► cruel let me let me ask you a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► before you get too into destroying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► current enclosure has there ever been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► Mac desktop enclosure that we've had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► as long as we've had this current one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► across the board in any model I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► think so the only one I would say is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► you wanted to count all of the g4s as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► one model where they just changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► sort of plastic cladding then maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► could count that or if you just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► to count that shape like the g3 through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► g4 shape the one with a little that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► handles at an angle right that external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► shape lasted for a really long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► you're talking about the bits the visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► oh you in the Bozell yeah now the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► thing the whole case shaped like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► were just look at it in silhouette from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► the Yosemite g3 all the way up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► whatever the last g4 thing was with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► mirrored Drive doors whatever that shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► stayed with us for a long time - but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► at least it changed fashion wise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► change color that features changed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► sprouted vents and glory holes and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► sorts of slots and shiny things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► letters and that changed in much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► interesting ways so yeah but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► the mac pro case has changed at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► for the longest amount of time maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► Xserve ones that maybe the Xserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► changed less than that I know they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► the vents and change to three hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► drives when they went to I believe when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► they went to Intel so at least that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► a break in the content of the X or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► did look kind of the same about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► fashion aside and handles aside on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► inside I liked when they change from two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► hard drives to four because that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► of the reasons I buy a Mac Pro is I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► to be able to buy cheap hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► mechanisms without any other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► attached to them and just stick them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► into - you chuck it in there it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► cheapest way to get extra storage much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► sometimes at this point the external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► cases you buy like so you just want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► cheap USB case or firewire case or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► thunderbolt case someday those cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► tend to cost as much or more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► hard drive which kills me and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► like well I'll buy one these cases but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► I'll be able to reuse it but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► really because first of all one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► lot of my cases are parallel ata which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► of course isn't used anymore so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► all went by the wayside and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► thing is when you have a case with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► hard drive minute you think you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► to reuse the case what are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► do with the hard drive is in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► it seems like such a waste to just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► it out and put in the attic or throw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► in the garbage see you know what ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► happening is you don't reuse them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► much as you thought you would and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► eventually they become obsolete it's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► I'd much prefer to have internal space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► for drives and the current models drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► have these drive sled things I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► know if you have you pulled out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► drive sleds in your Mac Pro you yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► it's like a metal it's like a flimsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► l-shaped metal thing with four screws on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► it to the drive attaches to but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► a great experience like it's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► alright they're very hard to get an out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► right and they there's sort of a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► of tension where you have to pull but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► you pull too hard the thing will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► sort of fly out like a rocket and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► also when you're pulling since it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► l-shaped piece of metal if you pull on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► applying vertical pressure you know as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► lever you just want to be pulling it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► horizontally right you try to pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► horizontally it's no place there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► place to grip it so that you're pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► directly horizontal so the force vector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► is going entirely horizontally and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► there's no other force vectors going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► Oh physically yeah the only place you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► have to grab it causes force vectors ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► in all sorts of directions in it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► binds up and sometimes it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► them out all right and and it's metal on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► metal it's it's a piece of anodized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► aluminum or something sliding into metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► slots and that's not a nice experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► you know metal sliding it's metal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► like it's not fingers on the chalkboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► but it's close it's like scrapey and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► you remember the B Power Mac g5 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► remember what that hard drive thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► like yeah it had what you would do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► you would take your hard drive mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► that you bought from the store and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► have these little dome headed screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► they're almost rubberized yeah although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► the screws were on rubberized screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► were smooth shiny metal that's right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► sorry dome heads on them and they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► let fit into a little trough inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► right yeah and the trough was plastic so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► smooth metal on soft plastic when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► great thing was that those little screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► had little places for them to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► there was four screw holes for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► be stuck inside the case so it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► come with one hard drive with the screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► already in it but when you got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► second hard drive you'd be like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► are those dogs where are the screws how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► do I have to buy them but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► already there yeah yeah they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► were sort of there were four little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► screw holes up inside that you just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► to I guess you just had to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► they were there or if you read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► manual perhaps it said yeah and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► want to buy them third party like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► made the mistake of taking a drive out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► and didn't take the screws off those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► things were really expensive yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► the same thing with a drive sled so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► other thing with the drive slides is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► I've been swapping drives a lot with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► having a lion Drive and I took out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► Windows drive for a while and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► you know that you're just using our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► wife's computer for that I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► everything I'm using every piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► hardware in this house including my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► things so I'm swapping out drives but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► swapping out drives as a penguin then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► sled because you have to unscrew this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► lead and screwed into the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► you're was afraid you're going to strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► those tiny little screws because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► really small Phillips head size zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► zero zero or whatever I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► have an extra sled because I need to sly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► up the sled and slide the other one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► but the sleds again cost half as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► an entire hard drive because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► there I don't know they're rare I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► know why they cost so much drive sleds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► always cost a bazillion dollars I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► it's a supply and demand thing so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► would like to not have drive sleds the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► g5 situation where you had shiny metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► screws smooth metal screws on plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► that was a much more pleasing sliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► experience the only problem with the g5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► one was that only it only had two drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► and to get one of them out you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► take the other one out like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► independently but if you wanted to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► the second one out you also had to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► the first one out because it was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► sliding thing so I would like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► that like the current Mac Pro's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► you've got four or more drives in fact I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► would say four or five six let me put as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► many drops as I want there I'll use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► all but do not have metal and metal have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► to be a smooth slide without any bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► mechanical you know mechanisms in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► that caused them to bind up so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► definitely room for improvement in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► user serviceable parts on the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► and the RAM is a little bit testy too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► but you ever use the Drobo no I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► Drobo family but we talked about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► think we did right I was just wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► if you have ever because they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► drive insertion mechanism that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► require doing anything to the drive you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► just slide it in and it locks into place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► like in people who don't I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► curious if you had tried yeah I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► I've seen it I've seen like videos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► people doing it I like the idea you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► no weird screws no sleds just slide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► drive in and if it works fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► there's not a lot of slop and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► get like the connector shaking loose or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► anything then it seems fine let's I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► been using Drobo's for years and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► never had a problem with drive insertion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► or anything in Ottomans it's simple it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and I do would think that Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► innovate something like that yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► you know hard drives are kind of creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► in that there's one of the last pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► of a computer that's not hot swappable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► don't know if Siri lays a technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► support hot swapping I think it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► but certainly the Mac the packet is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► so do not remove your hard drive while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► the computer is on do not put a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► in to mine our drivers on bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► will happen and Thunderbolt obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► fixes this but then you have the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► external case issue and does the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► have a fan does the case have a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► supply it's not bus powered that gets so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► much messier I'm a big fan of internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► drives I always pack my machines with as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► many drives as they can fit internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► we would also like very much to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► Shopify comm one of our long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► Shopify is absolutely the best way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► sell anything online I love them now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► get your own online store you'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► to accept credit cards you'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► use your own domain you'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► customise your stores design they host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► everything for you you don't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► anything it's all right there it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► done it's done you can pick from over 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► free and premium themes in their theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► store and if you know HTML and CSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► forget it design your own it's up to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► you'll get your own shopping card to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► streamlined checkout and they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► dedicated team of security experts with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► a really thick rimmed glasses that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► handle all of your ecommerce stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► make it secure for you so you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► to worry about it I mean they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► everything they've got analytics they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► keep track of your stores progress over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► time they do all of this you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► you don't have to install anything or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► anything it's just right their unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► visitors everything now there's a 30-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► free trial but if you use the discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► code 5x5 you will get your first three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► business for life at Shopify com I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► so on new hardware and the line delay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► don't know what's coming I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► MacBook Airs are coming I assume there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► will be no Mac Pro thing like like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► said on his show the Intel roadmap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► dictates that the CPUs Apple would use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► for its macros and not yet available but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► on the other hand as he also said Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► occasionally gets stuff early so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► rumors flying around about that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► he most recently posted something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► was his take on this serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► mismatch thing was that oh it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► those are actual Co numbers for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► white MacBook of the Mac Mini just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► to show there's not going to be any new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► Mac pros because the chips aren't ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► and that's probably true so and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► in you're going to go on record right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► okay so today is Wednesday so July 13th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► you're going on record and saying there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► will be no this is eating your gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► feeling and whatever insider information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► you have and are downplaying no new Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► this week no line this week that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► I'm saying next week definitive definite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► absolutely uh stink you've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► notional no new line I mean this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► rumors I'm just guessing I'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► like everybody else I'm saying no lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► this week probably know are we're this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► I assume lion will will be released and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► hardware I give 50/50 chance for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► week just because new hardware is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► doesn't mean it's coming at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► time as lion or next week you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► I mean like it's obvious as you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► have drawn a man another they've they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► made that connection and said that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► reason that we don't have the airs yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► I'll just pick the airs out of the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► of the list cuz that's been the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► runner and we know those need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► updated the reason that there's no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► errors is because lion wasn't completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► ready and it takes them a week or two to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► go from saying okay this is our GM seed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► we think it's going to be good too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► saying it is good to then printing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► to whether it's books or DVDs which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► may or may not be selling or even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► burning the image down onto the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► DVD of the little USB stick rather to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► ship along with the MacBook Airs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► putting them into the boxes and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► them an image done to the hard drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► and all the little things they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► do that that could take a week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► but you know what I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► kind of going back to the previous this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► is follow up a follow up but couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► they have announced the new MacBook Airs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► and said they ship in a week or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► ship in two weeks like the minute that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► they were a hundred percent sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► the GM was ready to go the minute that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► they said that GM is good the GM this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► the West is our boy this is the one he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► ready to go out in the world that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► that minute they say all right MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► coming out yeah Apple sizing we're I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► wait why wait why not just save shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► because tonight it's not like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► a thing about shipping Julie you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► announce analyst at shipping today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► because they announced stuff is all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► time all the time but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► you know Apple does like to have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► medium message I think it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► dictated by marketing because they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► they do want to announce things in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► certain order to push a certain message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► and if marketing has decided that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► best way to release these is in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► order this and out you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► that's the way it's going to go if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► say we should release lion and we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► release the hardware two days before or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► we should at least the new hardware two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► days after actually we should wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► all the line stuff to die down before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► announcing the new hardware you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► think along when you say marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► that's a euphemism for Steve Jobs no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► really because I think he delegates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► launch order of most things to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► actual marketing department really has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► lot of power within Apple and really if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► you think he dedicates that you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► say delegates that is a euphemism for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► giving them the specific date and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► and order in which to launch sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► I'm sure he has strong feelings other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► but the way the way my impression is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► way things work inside Apple is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► he dictates everything with just that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► if you feel strongly about something he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► organization and making it so but if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► doesn't feel strongly and that's why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► hires good people they come to him with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► something they say we're thinking to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► an X and he goes yeah that sounds fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► or no it doesn't and I think he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► yeah that sounds fine a lot with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► marketing people now obviously when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► it's something involving him like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► iCloud launch or whatever he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► say no iCloud it has to be the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► as wcwc is going to be iOS 5 line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► iCloud and that's going to be our push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► you know that was a clear message to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► that conference that they had those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► three things so even if iCloud was early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► ready or iOS five was really ready or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► anything all those three we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► coincide it W that we see no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► but for Hardware stuff like this you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► with the hardware like they'll update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► the Mac Pros and not even say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► that you press roots maybe if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► lucky same thing with the white Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► books and stuff and then occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► they'll be like the new heirs will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► on the front page and they'll be a press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► release but it's not that big of a push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► obviously lion is going to be a big push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► so I don't know when these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► going to come but I would imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► marketing has a lot to do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► and if they if they really thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► was super important for line to be out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► this week like if there was some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► external pressure they would have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► done it and if the hardware wasn't ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► they would have announced it if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► decided it's best for us to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► hardware and software at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► they would have just announced it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► not this week probably next week and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► wouldn't be surprised if you either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► don't see the hardware or see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► hardware before the software because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► don't know what the know what the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► sequence is for this you know they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► like you said they could announce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► hardware hey new MacBook Air say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► announced that on Monday and then on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► Wednesday they they announced line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► they could announce the MacBook Airs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► will be shipping with lion but you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► get them in for two weeks or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► you know well yeah maybe that maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► just goes back to playing their hand as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► far as announced pre announcing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► lion ships without intending to in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► words if they say oh yeah it's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► in two weeks well then everybody says oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► well that means lines not ready and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► lines not coming out for two weeks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► now we know it comes out in two weeks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► that gives you know that plays their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► hand and all that they do they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► to keep their July promise I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► so I don't know so we'll see you next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► week oh they'll keep their July promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► I think I think we might you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► there's still a couple days left in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► week they've they've been known to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► release things on Thursdays before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► would be shocked if it happen I'd hope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► just want to see what you look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► shocked so Josh the yokomen chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► mentioned that lion has a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► solution for enterprise and education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► customers for distributing the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► what he says is that those customers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► allowed to download a line install our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► app from the App Store and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► download it once and then you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► that installer app to install on all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► machines on the site so basically we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► in a situation where you if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► today if you have a Mac and the Mac has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► no operating system on it let's say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► hard drive completely failed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► hard drive is gone and you buy a brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► and you would like to install lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► directly you cannot well you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► because if you bought a Mac it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► didn't buy a Mac you have this Mac from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► before did you get it from no you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► bought it from a fiery buddy from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► mom come with it should have come she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► lost that she lost the DVD she lost it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► find that you're gonna the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► would happen if you bought a Mac pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► lion and you lost the DVD and you lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► the harddrive you have to boot it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► something to get the OS installed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► put in the brand-new line DVD boot up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► format but if you had a lion DVD that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► what my point is how do you get how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► you get line on there you can't you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► a bison you got to go and find a copy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► if you boy yeah I'm assuming the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► will come with something you can boot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► from uh Snow Leopard machine what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► it's an existing machine no it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► existing machine it came with originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► a Snow Leopard but I lost the disc I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► situation if you lost that disc weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► line exists or not you know I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► no I am because if it shipped on if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► whatever the latest operating system was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► shipped on DVD I could drive any Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► Store or call up Amazon or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► needed to do and get the DVD put it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► understand what I'm saying what if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► what if yeah and there's I you you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► know that this is just something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► can't fathom but there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► people who are like still wanting to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► it this way or might have to do it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► way and I'm saying there there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► a way listen I'm the first person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► line to say let's get rid of DVDs I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► hate all of that kind of media I I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► all of this electronic distribution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► for me it's perfect I'm the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► person who died I never need to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► kind of stuff again get every everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► should be streamed everything should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► downloadable every everybody should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► files power to the people but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► reality is there's a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► just don't don't have this in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► I'm talking about the world like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► know the continent of Europe I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► they're almost there getting Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► individuals or institutions individuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► the individual as an institution discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► but anyway you know what I'm saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► saying that that an individual person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► who isn't as in this situation it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► typical but there's still people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► that what are the what does that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► snow leopard install that get on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► App Store make the account by Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► I mean lion wait while that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► downloads install it from Snow Leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► that's that's a headache that's a honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► that room some of the chat room says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► they are on a two hundred megabyte per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► day satellite internet care you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► you that's a typical listener I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► where do you think that person looks UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► because they don't have internet over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► there Ohio there you go so I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► Apple cares about the people with no net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► connections that I do I do think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► has to be some sort of physical out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► these people even if the physical out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► to go to an Apple store and set and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► them your plight say you know I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► computer at home I lost the CD I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► want to put lion on it you guys don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► sell Snow Leopard anymore I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► could probably bison all over from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► Amazon to something but there's no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► Snow Leopard DVDs available anyway if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► get a new hard drive how do I reinstall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► the operating system on this thing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► like you suggested earlier it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► that new computers will come with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► DVD line DVD and Apple will have a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► of in the back of the room for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► assume this person also has no friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► by the way because you could someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► could burn you a lion DVD for using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► Installer pretty easily or imagine they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► live you know they live in Ohio or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► somewhere where they're no other they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► have yeah they have no other geek friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► right no access anything but they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► drive to an Apple store would the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► store burn you a DVD or have some in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► background for you or would they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► like thumb drives that you can buy for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► nominal fee or something like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► don't know it seems like it's not as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► I think practically speaking it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► to be very difficult to ever be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► situation where you absolutely can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► a physical version like who has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► friends who have max you know who also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► has on that I don't know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► you could get something very much an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► case but I just I think it's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► it's a pretty big deal I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► pretty big deal it's as big of a deal as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► maybe as not having a floppy drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► the IMAX when that happened so are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► going to predict the new machines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► come with line are they going to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► with an optical disc that you can boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► from you know I could almost imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► instead just why not have the little USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► thumb drive that they do just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► airs why not want to do that for all new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► well the opto this is way cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► that USB thumb yeah but and cents well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► know that but I think I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► that's such a neat way to do it it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► he so so you do you think they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► something physical whether it's a thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► drive or an optical drive but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► two new machines in ship with line have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► to come with a physical things you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► I think so I think they have to I be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► wouldn't be shocked if they didn't but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► I suspect something I suspect I'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► to I think they will and I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► be an optical disk yeah for that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► not that would not surprise me but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► does that mean you wouldn't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► buy one of those in the store eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► I don't I don't think they're gonna ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► sell them you may be able to obtain them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► from your friendly Apple store if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► just go and tell them and no either burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► you one or have a bunch in the backroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► or once you can prove that you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► purchase line by showing them on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► App Store see look I purchased it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► can't download this Apple stores are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► always accommodating with stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► that and what and why wouldn't they what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► other than you know as long as you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► a Genius Bar appointment and you've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► your appointment you filled your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► slot you come in there and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► what I need I need Lion I bought it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► the Mac App Store let me log you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► Mac App Store on one of these Macs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► show you see I bought it but I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► can't get it because I'm in Ohio and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► have satellite internet can you help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► out what's like what's the kid's name in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► Ohio what's the kid's name that was a TJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► Loma am i mangling that name that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► he knows comm TJ yeah so here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► burned through a bunch of follow up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► we still didn't get the mark down I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► still not even done with my follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► well let's just do we'll do a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► oh it what is this next thing I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► quick pic oh I wanted that forever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► has been in my notes for months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► months and that's that's a rant topic oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► we could save that for another time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► guess once more around with DHCP yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► you put that in there I looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► article I thought you would like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► you don't like that it was technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► interesting to explain why max can join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► networks quickly when you have you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► I mean if you're a Mac user and most I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► probably is you may not you may not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► this but because you're a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► who use Mac's only use Mac's but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► open up your your Mac laptop by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► a web browser assuming you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► network that you've been on once before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► you know Wi-Fi network by the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► can like get to start typing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► into the web browser you're online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► you're you're browsing web you're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► you've got your DHCP address assigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► you're on the network you're ready to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► you may not know this but it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► way for non Mac machines especially not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► Windows machines Linux not really either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► that takes a little bit longer now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► not talking about minutes where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► sitting there waiting and waiting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► waiting waiting to get a signal no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► it's a perceptible amount of time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► might it might be several seconds longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► if not maybe even longer for an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► machine whereas all the Macs are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► boom they're right there on the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► so this guy wrote this this article very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► technical article what's this guy's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► David Simmons he's a software engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► and he does like the low-level system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► stuff and it occurred to him one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► that his Mac's were way faster getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► on the network so he's analyzed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► whole thing he used a samsung galaxy tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► running 10.1 a MacBook Pro running 10 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► 8 and I was would those the only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► machines he tests are do you test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► something else but he basically watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► how they get the their links established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► and what happens behind the scenes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► DHCP and should he integrate this into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► the Linux kernel and what did you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► of this thing that was pretty neat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► what it shows me because he shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► what it shows me is that this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► technology thing where like Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► some super advanced technology they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► don't have right it's it's an attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► to decent detail thing because the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► difference is the policy that's used the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► annoying when I open up my laptop lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► and I can't use the network for like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► seconds right you know or five seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► or whatever so someone high enough up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► said that's annoying can we fix that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► when you say someone that's a euphemism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► for Steve Jobs or anybody else who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► been influenced by his you know value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► system so the PC laptop that he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► what it shows is basically it does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► bunch of stuff and then it waits and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► decides after 10 seconds which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► probably configurable time out somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► I guess there's no that you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► a different network let me see if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► is DHCP server that's just a policy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► like try your old networking if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► can't get to it see if there's a DHCP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► server and there's a 10 second wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► between it so the boom there's your 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► seconds so the guy who got this request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► at Apple said I don't like waiting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► amount of time I said well we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► to do it that way why don't we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► remember the last few networks we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► connected with and see if any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► are still viable and get right back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► using them and we can do that in more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► quickly than if we use this other policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► it's just a change in what do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► when you wake up and how long do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► wait to see if the thing you thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► there is there or not or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► that's just that there's no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► Windows or any other vendor can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► this probably Windows the reason Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► can't do everything is because they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► well there's some enterprise vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► somewhere that says if we change this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► mechanism it will invalidate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► network security and the government says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► we have to do follow this algorithm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► mandatory and blob you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► always some reason why Windows can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► anything when during Windows is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► entanglements I think it did an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► on that way back when but it's still as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► true today as it was then enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► entanglements tie at Microsoft's hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► or Microsoft believes they tie its hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► they choose to cater to that audience so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► they can't do stuff so Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► have those problems Apple's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► sell some big clients gonna say wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► wait wait actually the old algorithm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► way it works is that's our network needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► you to wait that 10 seconds because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► do X Y and C it up says no it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► important for the majority of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► customers to open the lid and get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► network connection as fast as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► so we're going to change our network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► stack a little bit on our Wi-Fi thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► and say all right when you when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► lift the lid actually send out these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► four or five packets remember the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► few networks you've connected to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► them any of them available and quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► reconnect to them because it gives a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► better user experience and we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► if it violates the expectations of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► network administering 10 seconds so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► that's another example of Windows and PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► vendors failing not because they lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► the technology or expertise but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► they have the wrong value system they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► to make they make the wrong choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► about what's important so I guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► wasn't a pet sorry a little technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► rated in the shona really for this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► yeah well I don't know I'm not a network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► guy so is a little technical assistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► understand thoroughly so I have a vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► understanding of network related topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► so you don't want to talk about that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► you'll fry and talking about chemistry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► or whatever physics physics so do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► think then we basically got two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► this week in two days next week where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► released to know whether or not next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► week's show will be about it we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► hoping it might be this week's show my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► now now we're thinking might be next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► week's show you got to think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► Apple likes Tuesdays so I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► thinking next Tuesday or next Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► now if this if Oh when's day I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► it was only Tuesday or Thursday and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► no Wednesday was on potential what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► Wednesday Wednesday is I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► you're right it's probably Tuesday or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► Monday - who knows who knows I heard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► heard the 19th a long time ago I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► saying the 19th and then these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► 12th and 14th rumours started in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► fine yeah I'll tell I'll tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► this is hope the listeners will know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► line comes out into white smoke well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► know they'll know if line comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► they'll know that this show is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► be in a lion extravaganza spread apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► six six six to ten different episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► well it will begin long series will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► begin will say I don't know how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► it's gonna take us to go through it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► depends on if you have a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► question might take might take a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► six months well one thing I can say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► I'm going to assume that when we do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► show that the people listening have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► either read or skim to the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► because I'm not going to reiterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► everything in the art or perhaps they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► will have listened the article perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► they will have listened to my dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► reading of the article if I can acquire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► the rights to do that I'm not sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► mean you're right your response to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► I have not eyed so for the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► don't shame on you if you don't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► me on Twitter I'm Dan benjamin on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► twitter and you can follow john at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► siracusa no z-s IRAC us a note there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► no longer is Ian that and you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► could follow the discussion there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► basically what I did is I asked people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► said what would you enjoy a dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► reading of either perhaps some or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► all there's only 85 pages you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► essentially an audiobook format now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► would really ideal would be for Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► to read it in his a car van honks voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► can you do an impression of Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► knowing that impression no but I can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► will do and it in a Squidward voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► which is the same as doing it in a John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► impression I will have an art school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► don't you you need to just go watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► show I know I would like to hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► you'll hear it when I do the dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► reading all right all right so anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► have applied through the powers it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► over at ARS technica can I say Who I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► I asked I shouldn't I asked the powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► that be that's enough and I'm waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► for a response it would be great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► didn't you know I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► legality of it is I know that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► ever listen to regular traditional or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► satellite radio they read they read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► things all the time they rarely read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► something in its entirety but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► frequently read it and then they'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► excerpts from it and things like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► now this is a different situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► because we're talking about you know 85 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► pages and that's not a lot for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► read I could read 85 pages and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► in an hour and a half easy I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► could do it like the micromachines guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► remember those commercials the FedEx guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► Micro Machines guy the fast reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► I don't think of this reading let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► just go on record and say that I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► dramatic reading is a dumb idea and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► one should ever listen to it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► have to let yet see the screenshots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► you know it just maybe I'll make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► screencast and I'll show the screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► while I'm reading it it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► a weird thing I'm trying to raise money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► to do it and they give you the rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► I'm trying to raise money for you I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► gonna let people donate they can donate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► nothing or they can I'll donate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► hundred percent of the profits to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► well why don't you wait to see you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► the rights because I think to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► entire thing you definitely do need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► rights from the people what about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► know that I could read some excerpts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► it certainly yeah anyway long long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► short long story short I would I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► very much like to read perhaps part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► it perhaps just like an intro like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► very cool intro I just read the intro do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► you have a cool intro paragraph or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► something where you like set the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► for the whole article I could just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► no bar no part of what I wrote in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► article is cool hate the bruster bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► I think your stuff is kind of cool yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► maybe that might that my son asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► yesterday if I was cool oh he had to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► I thought it was a trick question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► like did you tell him were you honest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► did would you say something like in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► context I did I more or less I did say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► you know probably not but some nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► people think some of the things I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► about is cool so it really depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► who you're talking to because yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► definitely not cool but there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► who think you're cool because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► cool to them you know what I mean yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► the wider scheme of things definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► not cool that's okay that's that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► we're nerds here you know nobody judges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► here that's right but I would say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► from in the in the real definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► cool there was nothing cool in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► article but if you're going to Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► maybe you'll find some parts of the cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► I don't know so I wouldn't I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► worry about next week's show even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► fine is now because I got so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► I don't know why my list of topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► exploded I didn't get to here's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► things I didn't get to we didn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► mark down again sorry people we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► get to the quick quick thing which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmVDoNs/3929">TS</a>]
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