00:00:04 ◼ ► a weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► what is wrong in the world of Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/6">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► nothing is so immaculate that it cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► be utterly destroyed by the host of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► show John siracusa I'm tan Benjamin I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► like to say thanks to today's sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/18">TS</a>]
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00:00:25 ◼ ► the show goes on this is episode number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► 25 bandwidth for this show has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► provided by Midas green technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/30">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► Virtual Private servers submerged in oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► really you can check them out at Midas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► green tech comm broadcasting live and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► direct from the closet in so many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/42">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► speaking of topics we get some a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► don't we we do ah just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► today okay all right someone in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► room did come up with something to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► about for the main topic oh good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► we're wrong we're out of topics yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► I think it will be a short one but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/62">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► something we mentioned on past show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► so last show we talked a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► about webOS sometimes I feel like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► to say that as web boss I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► think tom says webOS but anyways you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► talked about palm and their chances as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► mobile platform and I talked about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► like them but how their stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► always seemed to be slow and then I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► I couldn't understand why it was slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► and somebody on Twitter was telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► that it was slow because they use web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/91">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► apparently I did it in too subtle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/101">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► manner just mentioning WebKit and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► going whole hog into it so I figured I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► would clarify so the API for writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► applications on webOS is built on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/109">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► JavaScript and HTML now it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► you're writing web applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► would run in a web browser it just means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/120">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► that the underlying stack that's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► your stuff is WebKit so you write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► JavaScript code to a JavaScript API and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/126">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► I believe all their user HTML but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/133">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► don't know if that's really exposed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► but any right the bottom line is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► application is under the covers WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► even though you're not programming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► web programming and that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► reasons everyone says that it's slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► like I said may that could be the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► maybe it's just too many lay I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/150">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► there's too many layers in the layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► cake with WebKit on the bottom the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► know because every time you add another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► one of those layers to the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► performance hit because you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► code way up at the top and then it runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► something else and then eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► get all the way down to the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/165">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► runs on the CPU and a closer you are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► that CPU the more efficient you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► in theory the reason I didn't just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► well WebKit slow and it's always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► to be slow therefore our webOS is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► going to be slowest because that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/176">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► how technology works things that are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► slow to be practical eventually become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► practical because technology advances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► and eventually they become good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► but we saw the exactly the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► compositing graphics where everything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► the screen is composited where you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► have any direct drawing to the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► buffer that was too slow for ver for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► decades and eventually it became viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► but still annoyingly slow in Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► eventually now today it is not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► viable but it's perfectly acceptable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► no one would want anything different so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► I assume that webOS will have a via if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► they stick around long enough we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/212">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► will benefit from the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► transition technology will get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► eventually they're hit their performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/217">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► hit for using web technologies will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► away no I could say that that might I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► happening right now because the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► that feel slow on webOS it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► they could be accelerated in in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► current technology like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► examples I've heard but have not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/237">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► and since I'm not an iOS developer I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► not breaking NDA I've heard that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► scrolling capabilities in iOS 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► WebKit like if you make a web a webview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► or web application and you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► scrolling to feel as smooth as it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► in you know in a real Coco view well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► apparently Apple has some done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► stuff where this and WebKit settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► where you can say this is a scrollable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► view don't try to write your own custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► rolling momentum and all that stuff we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► just have a little flag that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/269">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► flip to say this is scrollable and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► will do all that momentum stuff for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► and supposedly it feels much much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► presumably webos easier already doing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► plans to do but that that's the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► thing you can do to make web technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► even with current hardware feel almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► as fast as as native stuff or maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► faster in some cases it depends on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► you do so that's why I thought said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► didn't understand why webOS is so slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► not because I don't understand that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► have more you know a higher level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► extraction they're working with but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that seems like these are solvable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► problems and in fact are being solved by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► other people who aren't using the web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/306">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► their primary development platform so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► anyone would be motivated to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► solutions to these problems it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► palm you know but from what I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► able to determine from playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► sluggish now I haven't played with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► touch pad yet but I have played with pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/322">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► and pre 2 and they are not iOS caliber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► in terms of responsiveness and is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► that's a deal-breaker for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/329">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► people that's not why the platform is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► not successful and whether it's not as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► deal-breaker for people I certainly know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► a lot of people who have tom devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► because among tech nerds if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► like everything that Apple does palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/342">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► responsiveness is a turn-off to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► people and in general responsiveness is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/351">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► comfortable with your with your product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► even though they don't understand that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► why they like it you see a lot with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► iPad people are attracted to the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► because it feels like things happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► faster there than they do on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► crappy pcs so if you give someone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/366">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► an $800 PC you give them a $500 I pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/367">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► which is vastly less powerful and vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► less capable they will tell you that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► feels faster than their $800 PC simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► because their PC is bogged down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► crap where or everything takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/379">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► time to launch for those waiting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► hard drive to read bits off spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► platters you know that perception even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/383">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► if not articulated by the customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/388">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► addition to many other things they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► like more developers more software but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► well shouldn't they have access to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► that stuff now now that HP owns them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► shouldn't they have it essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► unlimited resources at their disposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► certainly more than they had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► products people design products and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► have to convert that money into people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► who can do a good job and as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► imagine the the competition for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/420">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► operating systems and software is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► know it's probably scarce these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► because everybody wants it Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► trying to hire you Apple's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► hire your HP is trying to hire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► Microsoft it's you're in demand if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/434">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► are good at that and that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► challenge from a staffing perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► think a lot of those guys using Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► right sniffing Pro I don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► some people do in the build system right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► and some crappy Perl that I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► complained about this before but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/451">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► Apple does use a lot of Perl and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► time I peek into one of their install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► our packages and look at the Perl that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► part of the installation process of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/457">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► you know obviously not everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► language but if it's your job to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► Perl even if it's just part of your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► I feel like you should buy a book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► learn about the language and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► have some minimum level of competence I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► did ever tell the story about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► one Perl bug that causes a version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► iTunes not to install for me know let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► hear it so I forgot how long this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► long time ago but it wasn't Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► error so they had I think it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► installers if you do right-click show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► package contents you can see little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► resources that are in there and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► the resources are like this pre install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► and post install scripts which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► sometimes written in Perl sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► their shell sometimes their Python there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► are all sorts of things so the power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/501">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► installing table system Perl I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► had since learned not to replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► system Perl by the way that's a lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► for everybody if you have Mac OS 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► you want to use a newer version of Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/515">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► do not touch the system Perl install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► into the user local so I believe I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► done that these homebrew for that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► d-dude from screen I compiled from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► source okay but one thing I had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► since this was my shell was I had put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► user local at the beginning of my path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► in front of user been and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► so I'm getting my pearl and so was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► Installer that was running because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► think I'd put it in my gut that system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/540">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► environment thing it's like that system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► environment something or other global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► properties the some file you can put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► your home directory which will influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/547">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► the environment not just of your login [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► shell but of any program that that runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► should be any any process spawned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► login window so when I double-click this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► installer it would balance the doc once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► or twice then disappear and that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► happen every time and I eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► tracked it down to the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► installer may guess it was the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► install script over some that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► the installer was running a perl script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► which was dying because it was using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► new version of Perl instead of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► version of Perl this is why you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/576">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► never do it should never get your custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► install version in front of that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► reason it was dying when I eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► looked at the script was that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► doing a string comparison all for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► while doing all sorts of horrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► variables interpolated into strings with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► no quoting around them so I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► know better hope you don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► spaces that was actually a bug I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► installer would recursively delete one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► of your drives if it was named the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► install on but with a space so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► had drive foo and drive foo spacebar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► you tried to install on top of foo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► initiate a remove command they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► remove dollar sign blah and da signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► blob would expand to foo space bar so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► would expand in to remove foo and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► also bar and they would say bar not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► found but it would then recursively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► remove foo anyway it was full of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► comparison that said a dollar sign bla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► EQ something else an EQ was Perl string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► comparison operator it has separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► operators for numeric comparison string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► comparison because 1.0 equals equals 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► but 1.0 does not eq 1 because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► string same number so they had written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/640">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► the EQ operator and all caps capital e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► capital Q and this is the first time I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► ever seen this in my entire life because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► the operator is lower case EQ when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/652">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► said this thing the script shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► how does how is it possible that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► thing even compiles because the operator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► is lower case EQ well it turns out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► very old versions of Perl which at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► time macro is time of shipping with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► very old version of Perl you could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► and the parser would choke it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► figure out that you meant lowercase EQ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► but in my later version of Perl it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► just reject that as a syntax error and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► say you can't there's no capital EQ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► operator it's supposed to be lowercase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► EQ so that that shows somebody didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► even crack a book and say what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► string comparison operator because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► book ever tells you to do it in all caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► someone just miss remembered what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► operator was they typed it in all cap it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► happened to execute and they went with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► it that does not give me faith that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► people writing Perl code for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► installers are sort of up on their game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► and it's not just limited to prod like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► said I've seen shell scripts and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► like that that assume there won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► spaces in any paths or assume there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► won't be spaces in volume names or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► dangerous things like that that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► you know UNIX shell programming 101 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► don't do this you're just asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► how did we get into that topic oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► made some snide comment about Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► that's how we got into it but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► that's that's my story about the iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► installer and Perl I haven't looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► recently I'm assuming they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► better but but geez you know surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/726">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► that they even use Perl for that and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► you'd think they'd use some you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► more modern language like Ruby now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► because you wanna use Ruby because pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► pearl is basically UNIX distilled what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► they have a UNIX operating system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► they want to do they want to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► use shell scripting but no one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► shell scripting because it sucks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► it's you know it's a big mishmash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► stuff their conditional operators are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► actually little executables named left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► square bracket that's really the test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► command and there's all sorts of inane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► business to deal with for bash and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► bourne shell script itself i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► don't want to use shell script because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► it's too primitive and too annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/763">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► right but they do want to do basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/764">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► shell scripting type stuff but they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► would like to have the ability to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► unix system function so you know typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► you wanna call stat you want to call you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► know the equivalent of f open unlink to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► remove files or you basically want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► access to the system library so perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► gives you the shell scripting stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► want for just basic shell scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► stuff but it also gives you access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► the underlying unix library so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► have to shell out to envy to rename a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► command you know you can shell out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► use just like a shell script if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► but half the things you might shell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► grepping through something or renaming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► file or deleting a file you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► to fork and exec something to accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► because you can just make the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► call that that executables going to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► Python has similar things so does Ruby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► but they wrap them in their own little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► libraries that eventually under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► covers do this stuff but if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► UNIX systems programming you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/821">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► know what the functions are call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► orders of the arguments and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► that so for people who are used to doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► natural fit than looking up ruby and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► figuring out okay but the file object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► what are the operations i can perform on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► that and which one is you know i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/836">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► same thing with python whereas if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► don't have that unix background who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► know learn find and learn the ruby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► library for pi manipulation learn or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► you know forking processes and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► like that or learn the Python equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► but if you know unix you know for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► know exec you know the system all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► sorts of commands so that's why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► they use Perl it's the right tool for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► the job it's just not being wielded in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/858">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► so my next follow-up thing is we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► about Final Cut Pro 10 on the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► a little bit and someone tweeted I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► this was Jim I'm gonna try this last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/872">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► hmm and I mentioned I was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► using Final Cut Pro in the classroom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► if it could get into the classrooms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► sort of train the next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/888">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► video editors it would be successful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► the market simply because they'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► familiar with it and wouldn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► wouldn't be stuck on the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► not like seven because I never loaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► something I just learned this new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/897">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► and if it really is better they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► they'll like it and take it into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► professional work with them and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► tweet was quote here we teach Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► Pro 10 to our classrooms of deploying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/907">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► were less insanely bad and then he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► quoting makes like a quote here trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► to say that this is the message from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► Apple here are 150 codes for the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► Store good luck because remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► Final Cut Pro 10 is only available in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► the App Store so if you want to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/921">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► get a volume license I think they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► thing where you can pay the money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► what they give you in exchange is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/926">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► bunch of App Store codes apparently if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► you then have to go on to each machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► open the App Store click the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► and starts downloading in that machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► that's a manual process you really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► that's not how quote unquote enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► software deployment is supposed to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► now when I saw this I thought was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► of a shame most people who don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► job taking care of lots of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► computers tend not to think about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► issues and apparently Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► think about them too much either but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► wouldn't blame this idiocy on the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► Store because part of the promise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► digital distribution is supposed to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► server-side awareness of who owns what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► right so it's not it's not the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► they've gone instead of doing retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► boxes they've gone digital only that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► not the problem it's the fact they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► advantage of one of the big reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► you go digital only you want the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► point would be you'd ideally give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► your money and it would say if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► server would then know ok you whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► corporation or whatever person are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► entitled to 150 licenses and then you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► like to be able to say okay just install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► that on these 150 machines and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► it would automatically do it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► knows okay well the server knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► many copies I have and I'll download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► into this machine and that takes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► one copy you know what I mean I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► thinking of example something like steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► does this a lot better where steam knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► what you own and steam knows if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► a new PC you can sign in with your steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► account and it says oh you already own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► this piece of software or you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► don't know if Steam cares if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► already installed in another place or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► not but in theory this is they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► all the information to provide a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► better experience than going from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► machine to machine with with a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► media or even a better experience than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► taking an installer package and using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► Apple's tools to try to spot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► installer package and elsewhere you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► could just instruct all the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► machines to pull from the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► using your credentials that say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► here's here's the license under which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► I'm supposed to be able to have a copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► of this thing go and pull from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► server and you could say App Store I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► computer X and I would like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► hundred 50 licenses and it would give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► to you and it would install Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► Pro for you and then you would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► decrement the the number of licenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► that you have alright you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► need to be that draconian you could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► say I know you have license here you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► install it and then at some point later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► there could be some sort of lazy audit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► type thing that checks to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► you're not running more than 150 copies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► it once or whatever so another case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► what's good about digital distribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► or all the good things about digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► distribution they did the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► with the iTunes where for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► years until very recently until iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► Match if you bought a song from them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► even though they know you bought it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► even though they can confirm that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► don't have another copy of it elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► when they had DRM and all their music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► you know the only thing you could do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► write to support and beg them I am you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► know my whole hard drive got deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► please I bought a hundred dollars worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► of music and I please have my music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► now it was like a one-time thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► once in a lifetime that was allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► yeah and it's that's this the is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► ridiculous you're not that's you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► squandering one of the big advantages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► digital distribution and that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► was part of like the record companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► deal where they only wanted one download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► because they were insane old men and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► thought download was a scary thing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► they can only have one download and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► that's it because that'll stop piracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► they were idiots you know so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► totally apples fault there but here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► is apples fault because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► record company there negotiating with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► Final Cut Pro 10 is their software and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► they made the App Store without this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► infrastructure for easy ability to track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► who owns what and have volume licenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► and you know I mean even if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► going to say well we have a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► solution for digital distribution but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► you need to have Lion because only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► lion app store app knows how to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► auto connect and ask you know or the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► version of Apple remote desktop maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► can tell all the machines go get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► software I'm telling you you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► it's better than taking the having Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► no desktop which is what it can do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► take and install our package and splat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► it onto each machine from the server you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► just tell each one to ask Apple for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► software that it's entitled to and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► would pull it down install it but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► enterprise-e things it's not even so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► much enterprise I gotta go back to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► when I work to the e-book store palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► digital media which was earlier peanut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► press they did one of the first and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► at one time the biggest electronic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► download store and one of the headlining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► features from day one was never lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► your stuff when you buy it we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► bookshelf and it shows everything you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► ever bought and at any time if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► to redownload or you know download your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► stuff for wherever you happen to be go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► to the your bookshelf page and download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1198">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► your stuff that's the you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► physical books we don't have to ship it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► we keep track of everything we know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► bought and at any time if you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► again you can get it so that's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► an obscure enterprise feature we weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► selling into enterprises we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► trying to sell to consumers and say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► is better than physical media because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► you don't have to keep track of it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► you lose it so what come download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► again it's yours forever you bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► and it's digital so we can just give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► to you whenever the distribution of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► onto machines seems kind of enterprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► but it's just a natural extrapolation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► digital downloads the way they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► actually work and against Steam does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► much better than Apple does where no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► matter what machine you're on if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► a new PC download Steam install it sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► in you can get all your stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► and you know what they even do it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► cross-platform way yeah you buy it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► one thing then you get a Mac install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► steam sign in anything on those pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► of software that's available for the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► you can download that's why people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► Steam so much I wanna buy games not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► outside steam because steam takes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► all the hassles I've got portal 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► sitting right here never launched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► it's pretty sad whoa no no no you good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► time you're supposed to be your reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► for moving to Austin once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► settled but I guess it's taking longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► than expected I'm not settled in I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► even have a mouse I was told it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► better to play with him out yes you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► a mouse so I just been playing minecraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► if you have time to play Minecraft start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► uh-huh well is it still on storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► somewhere is that why the mouse yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► yeah they're in storage and they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► here in another week and a half all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► right well you can hold out if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► multiplayer on that I have not tried the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► multiplayer like I play portal for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► single-player experience people said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► co-operative two-player is fun but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► don't know it's cooperative it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► know you know it's not deathmatch you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► not running around yeah a deathmatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► wouldn't really make sense yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► portaling people away from you yes kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► of silly well our first sponsor this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► week is sound studio 4 I love this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► recording and editing digital audio on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► your computer do anything with this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► digitizing old tapes and vinyl records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► to recording live performances podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► whatever it is and you can edit them too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► with crossfades you can tweak the levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► and EQ whatever it is that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► do really this app will let you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► you can take this high-quality master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► that you've created and you can save it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► out into a ton of file formats AI f WAV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► mpeg-4 AAC or John Syracuse's absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► favorite dog forbus this has been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► maxim most popular audio program for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► many years and the guys are continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► to update this all the time adding new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► features I mean it's a 64-bit app it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► just awesome so you can find sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► studio for at felt-tip comm /ss as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► as in the Mac App Store highly recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► so my next bit of follow up is we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► about Google Plus a lot last show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► saw a story go by this week that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► plans to retire the blogger and Picasa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► brand names did you see that yeah I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► surprise who's that is surprised too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► well now they lost are they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► rid of they didn't say they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► rid of this software they said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► retiring the names and it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► going to sort of fold under Google Plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► I guess yeah there's this phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► where promising young companies get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► purchased by Google and then it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► heard from again or their pace of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► innovation and and releasing comes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► halt or other sorts of bad things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► the idea that Google buys companies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► competitors to gain talent but not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► much to continue doing what that company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► was doing although sometimes they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► say that they will we want to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► company now that were part of Google boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► will be able to make blogger the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► blogging platform ever or we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► kind of stand still while their blogging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► platforms do interesting things Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► Picasa it was that in-house cool or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► they buy it they bought Picasa pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► sure they bought it yeah I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► especially when they when they had face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► recognition before iPhoto was I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► bringing some photos into Picasa to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► the face recognition it's not work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► okay yeah it worked about as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► iPhone one but the rest of the Picasa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► experience was not up to the iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► level polished for me I also didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► the Google software updater that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► this little clause into your system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► you can't ever get rid of it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► constantly popping up saying hey some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► Google app you have needs to be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► I was like I'm not even running a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► Google app so you just did a persistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► daemon process then you hunt it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► find the launch D item that's making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► launch and try to kill it but the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► time you install anything from Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► its back and that turned me off was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► like a real player ish kids ask your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► so anyway vlogger and Picasa tiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► tiring the names is uh is making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► realize something that I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► when I just tried Google Plus because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► Google+ came out I got the invite I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► started playing with it I didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► all the stories about it and like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► Steve Levy levy I don't hire brands last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► name I'll go I'll go with levy another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► old school Mac guy from way back in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► I've got an autographed copy of his book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► insanely great about the creation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► Macintosh so you met him and you signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► your book but you don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► pronounce his name he did not sign my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► book I got a signed copy of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► from the bookstore you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► author's like sign a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► books and I leave them on the shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► I know ubers or whatever I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► that yeah so anyway I do have a signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► copy of that book it's a little bit rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► tinted glasses kind of about the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► days of the Mac development but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► he's an old Mac guy he spent a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► apparently on and off interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► people at Google about Google+ and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► frames it his story frames that has sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► of a bet the company type of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► Google was realizing that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► enough to just be the place where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► search for stuff and you sell ads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► things everything online was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► social so they needed to not just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► social aspect or a separate social thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► like buzz or whatever but they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► reform the company in the image of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► in the image of Facebook but more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► centric rather than data centric because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► that's how people seem to be relating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► online and yet look at look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► Google+ URLs that were given yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► the thing you probably like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► probably that's your probably favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► feature of Google+ I was told that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► that's temporary there was some thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► about that and I saw on Google+ with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► some unofficial great so here's a here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► before you get into it here's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► talking about right now if you were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► go to your profile or your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► profile on Google+ it'll say plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► google.com slash and it'll have is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► 16 character string of numbers is it 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► I think it's like more than that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► like 40 or something it's a long long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► stringing numbers slash posts so so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► know my url is plus google.com slash one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► five eight seven four nine I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► like remember the one where data was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► setting a passcode and he just reads the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► passcode and it's like a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► characters long and he does it just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► a very good Android would reciting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► perfectly uh it's like that and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► it's so weird that that's like I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► everybody when I tweeted about this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► I tweeted about this I got a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► responses from people saying we'll go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► G+ tio and you can you can get a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► Google+ URL well it's not a Google+ URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► it's a URL shortener that all it does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► redirect so you you enter in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► Google+ number your 40 string character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► and then you tell it the name that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► want that to redirect to and essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► then you've grabbed that name well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► could have entered your name there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► checks there there's nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► prevents me from making up a name or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► using yours if you don't happen to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► already gotten it it's a third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► thing it's not run by Google other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► people will say oh well just use a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► know Google profiles will work so go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► profiles google.com slash your name well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► that only works if you actually had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► already set up a Google profile prior to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► Google+ which eight Google profiles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► and I didn't so that's not there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► you've got this crazy URL it just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► it just shows that as much as Google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► trying to be more personal that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► an epically huge failure of being more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► social me oh I want to check out your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► Google+ who are you oh well I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► could search for my name or maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► could search for my email but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► sure did I use my gmail address or my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► other one I can't remember so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► Google would say they do want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► search but first let me tell you what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► call reading with variable if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► the profile thing before Google+ lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and you pick the profile name the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► that that profile name doesn't work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► just because Google+ hasn't integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► understand to make whatever you picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► is your Google profile name work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► what if I picked a Google profile name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► with a different account on Google than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► somewhere in there where it says do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► want to have a better URL click this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► link and you can change it and you click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► the link and it leads you to a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► that has no place for you to change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► and the explanation for that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► they just haven't finished yet basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► I haven't even found that screen Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► is not a completely baked yet I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► surprised doesn't have a beta label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► someone on Twitter was saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► it's not like Google+ is beta well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► they're calling it what was it we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► talking about this on another show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► they're calling it a wasn't beta it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► chatroom help me out here what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► calling doesn't matter what they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► that the bottom line is doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► what they call Gmail was called a beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► for how many years two years it limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► field tests are calling it a field test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► all right I saw it yeah so again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► wouldn't call even though they don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► completely done but still isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► isn't that the one thing that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► wonder about only people care about URLs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► or geeks like us that also just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► that's not true what if my twitter ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► was one nine eight seven five four four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► one seven wqr are two seventy-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► shocked the number of people who do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► know how to get to someone's Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► page they nobody knows how to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► twitter.com slash username except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► guarantee you they just go to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► and they search or something really Hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► they haven't yes that's how we're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► scrappy yeah the other thing I'll point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► out is their URLs even though it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► it's Google+ comm slash big giant number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► redirects to slash post there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► question mark no query string there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► fragment they don't have that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► hash mark exclamation yeah those are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► so it could have been worse isn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► know you want to go real cool there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► like J session ID Java crap you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► URLs can be much worse than what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► have here and yes it isn't knowing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► have a number instead of username but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► ah but you're angry about it I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► I'm not happy with it because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► represents to me that the fact that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► matter how pretty you make it behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► scenes Google is a robot it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► human being I think you are reading too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► much into that fall much false all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► but anyway let me develop blogger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► Picasa thing so the the thing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► trying to get at was that in theory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► I'm seeing a little bit this in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► this whole effort is basically trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► turn the entire company around that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► why this Google+ is integrated into so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► many other aspects of their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► that they want people to think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► about themselves their relationships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► their friends when I think about Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► versus thinking about that search box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► and the thing that leads you elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and retiring these other names is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► natural part of that because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► trying to get they picked Google+ as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► their brand and they're trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► unified branding on this new message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► every other brand that they have out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► there that's related to people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► relationships like bloggers here is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► stuff that I say Picasa here are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► features probably but they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► distract from the Google+ brand so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► bottom line is the Google+ seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► much bigger deal to the company then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► may initially seem based on their tepid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► Facebook clone with circles thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► you've been hearing about people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► and by the way people who are asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► invites or we don't have invites or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► upset you're not missing anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► it's a half-finished piece of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► you'll get to join it soon enough think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► about when everyone else was on Gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► eventually you got on Gmail its email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► right the what Google would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► hope is that it is less exciting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► you think once you get on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► they just want it to become a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► part of your life and not this amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► new interesting thing like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► suppose to be a novelty they want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► be integrated into your life the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► way Gmail and Google search are it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► just another part of your day so it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► come to you eventually there are no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► invites as far as I know nobody has them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► right for a brief period of time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► did have them but apparently they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► being too widely spread so if I add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► somebody in my circle to a circle right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► now and I enter in their email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► that's not really inviting them that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► just putting them in and what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► yeah the bunch of people saying well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► you tagged someone in a photo they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► an automatic invite if you put someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► in a circle they get an invite yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► there was all sorts of backdoors when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► they first took away the invites to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► attaching them to some activity of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► legitimate invite I think they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► stopped all those little holes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► escaping but because I tried them a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► times in it didn't work but luckily I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► gave the one invited it actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► give was to my wife on the day I signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► up and that invite work for her and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► I quickly took away the invites so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► anyone asking I have no invites to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► out nobody has any invites to give out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► I'm sure there'll be more when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► back just be patient you wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► saying it quite so in quite such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► self-contented way if you were one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► the people that wanted to try it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► think most of the time when I'm not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► on an invite thing I'm like I'll see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► when it comes out that's what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► but you don't really feel that well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2038">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► because I'm usually not even allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► invites one thing I didn't get invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► for I was annoyed and I forget what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► was I can't remember now it wasn't Gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► because I had to wait a while for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► invite there was some service that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► people wouldn't care about and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► the one that I was annoyed that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► get an invite out I'm more annoyed when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► I don't get an invite to an obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► service they don't like five people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► the world will actually like and I'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► of the five and I didn't get an invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► versus something like Google+ it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► supposed to be for everybody and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► didn't happen to get one so what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► just wait so yeah well try not to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► about Google+ for the people who can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► see it I'm sure I do like the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► animations when you add somebody to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► have you tried adding somebody to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► your circles and they're already in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► there I haven't tried to try that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► watch the animation see what happens how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► many circles do you have to have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► three or do you use the default ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► have I don't use the default ones I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► I haven't deleted all default ones I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► one degree ten circles but some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► are neat idea fault like I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► following circle because it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► default but it's got zero people in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► my Apple nerds one is filling up fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► now when you when you put people into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► your apple new group do it depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► their setting you could notify them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► you've done that right I don't know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► just been putting people in I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► apologize if it is I try not to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► things that make people send I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► even know if there's a setting for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► we're all just learning here I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► figuring out how this works out and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► more thing in Google+ some another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► person on Twitter was talking to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► about Google scaling you know the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► that I always say they're so great at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► operations but now they had to limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► last show limiting invites maybe part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► how they scale now someone else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► complaining that they were getting bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► overcapacity equivalent of the fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► whale I have not seen a single thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► Google+ that has not allowed me to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► what I wanted no server errors no delays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► some people have apparently but the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► operations mean they can launch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► brand-new product this pervasive on day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► one and scale to a hundred million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► people within the first five hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► that's not the way scaling works you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► build it to scale so that 100 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► people eventually are led in by you at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► reasonable pace you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► counterexample this would be Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► where they built it it built it in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► expedient manner I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► user originally I think they just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► rails the use my sequel in the backend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► whatever the user was built it was built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► in a conventional manner and they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► rewrite it at least once possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► multiple times during their scale-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► because they hadn't built it to scale up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► to hundreds of millions of people Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► everything they build is built to scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► the hundreds and billions of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► doesn't mean that on day one it supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► a hundred million people you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► to work out the bugs figure out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► infrastructure supports it so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► going to be no point in the next two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► months or whatever where they say oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► god we really screwed this up we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► rewrite Google+ from scratch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► Twitter was basically rewritten from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► scratch at least once possibly multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► times and you could do that with Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► because it's a simple enough service but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► you can't really go to Google+ that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► what me that's what I mean when I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► Google has the infrastructure to scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► any product you think of an idea like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► Google Blog buzz or even wave which had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► some performance difficulties I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► if if they had decided to stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► that their infrastructure would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► supported scaling to to millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► users so everything they build has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► infrastructure to make it work already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► it's just a question of figuring out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► best to deploy it on an infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► and of course fixing bugs and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► that so that's why they have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► slow rollout instead of the big bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► release because I mean they're just fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► you know this features of their existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► software there's bugs in the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► and some of those bugs are going to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► Navy performance-related but I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► you they will not entirely need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► rewrite Google+ in six months that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► what I mean one that their operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► impressive when you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► because very few other companies like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► company can have the expertise to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► a web scale application that scales to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► millions and millions of people but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► much it's much harder to make a generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► infrastructure on top of which anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► can write any application they think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► that also scales to millions of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► you know what I mean because having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► expertise to do do a one-off like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► what Twitter did like Twitter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► figured out how to make Twitter scale to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► millions and millions of people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► but if you said great Twitter well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► have this great idea I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► something in it and it works exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► like Google+ can I build that on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► your infrastructure they're gonna say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► because our infrastructure is designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► for Twitter it's not a general-purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► infrastructure for building web scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► applications so that's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► Twitter for example doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► Google does sometimes is a weakness for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► Google because when they buy these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► companies and they bring them in-house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► to say okay step one is you have to need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► to take your existing application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► port it to our infrastructure because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► we're not going to run your crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► custom infrastructure built on whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► the heck you're using PHP and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► MongoDB thing off to the side and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► bunch of ec2 instances whatever you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► doing scrap that you've got to port your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► application to our platform that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► sometimes a year that's a little bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► much kind of not invented here drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► the kool-aid everyone has to conform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► the Google way of doing things and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► pay the price for that and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► you know when a company goes into Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► and you don't hear from them for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► nothing happens for a year it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► they're too busy according to the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► platform Microsoft did the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► purchased hotmail they want to deport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► hotmail to Windows yeah and that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► work out so well and they went back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► Unix every company has that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► there's probably probably on Windows now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► permanently but they did try to bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► to Windows way back in the day and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► didn't work out and I guess they I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► assuming they made another run at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► improve their service software now it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► running on Windows I don't know but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► that idea of when when you acquire a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► company part of their assimilation is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► take whatever technical stuff they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► for their platform and port it to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► platform as you know that's not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► know but obviously the benefits of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► is like get all the wood behind one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► arrow and just have everyone focusing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► one direction and improvements your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► infrastructure benefit all your products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► but the downside is is a big time suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► move and if you're in a hurry it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► why did you buy this little company if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► they were fast and innovative and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► you're now basically strolling them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► maybe that's fine if you really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► wanted the talent and you just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► keep them from being a competitor but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► does seem to be a common a common theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► in acquisitions of web companies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► they it's kind of like if you bought an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► application company this doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► happen but imagine if Apple bought an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► application that was written for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► different platform and didn't run on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► Mac at all they said okay well step one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► is you have to take your code that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► wrote in part of the Coco they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► well that's a hole there at practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► you bought us and our application only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► runs on Windows and maybe you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► have thought of that before you bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► us is the same thing of Google buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► companies saying well our app doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► run on Google's infrastructure runs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► our own infrastructure and rewriting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► like rewriting the whole thing so why'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► you even buy us it seems less crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► because it runs like well I see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► through a web browser and now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► Google bought it I'll see it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► same web browser so what there's no work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► there whereas if Apple bought a Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► application we would expect oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► going to take those guys a while to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► rewrite that because we know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► run on Windows or we don't think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► where do applications that we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► through a web browser where do they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► because they run somewhere they run on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► they run a hardware in a data center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► that's set up with hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► infrastructure even though we don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► that that's it exists you know so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► think when web companies are acquired we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► just assume it'll be a smooth seamless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► transition but it's the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► thing as a client-side software is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► less visible to us invisible software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► invisible software decisions yeah less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► server-side software you can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► think about like company X acquired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► company Y oh geez I wonder what company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► X had for their infrastructure and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► that's going to work with company Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► sometimes the best acquisition can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► when you get acquired by somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► has no existing infrastructure or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► infrastructure is better than theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► because then you don't need to try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► the integration yeah they just say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► going to use your thing your thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► better than what we got we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► pour our stuff to your thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► there's actually that's it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► really kind of interesting point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► you're making because a big part I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► had I've sold two websites of note and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► probably wouldn't need to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► anything before that but the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► Court which I wrote the the I did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► software engineering I guess you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► call it the you know the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► part and Dan cedar home did the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► part of that and when we wrote that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► rails and it was one of the first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► guess I don't know if well-known is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► right word but it was one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► like big rail sites that that was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► there and I remember when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► talking with some different companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► that wanted to acquire it it eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► went to a Gary Vaynerchuk but before him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► we're talking to some other let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► say there was a company in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► in another in New York that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► talking to about it and at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► today rails writing in rails but oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► great he wrote in rails good good back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► then it was like nobody really knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► it was it was very early in the days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► rails and it was it was like a liability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► it was like a liability that that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► certain in Rio I was not in Pete can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► could can you rewrite it in PHP we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► that question a number of times say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► but you can rewrite it in PHP if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► write and that's that's the thing it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► said well why is that what your current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► infrastructure is in is that what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► other apps and things are in well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► they're all in something different but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► we just figured PHP you know just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► that I've been seeing those letters a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► lot in my info world magazine so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► figured yeah PHP right they knew it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► just that that was what they those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► examples of people that's the worst part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► people who have no infrastructure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► their own but reject yours just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► they haven't heard of it so they're they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► have nothing to bring to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► except fear and ignorance and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► reject your but take a point you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► automatically is well you'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► you'll have to convert it to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► our infrastructure is well the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► part of those situations is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► people who are selling the company are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► the people who own the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► usually aren't the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► writing to the code and not the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► who are wedded to the code so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► acquisition and they get their big cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► exit or whatever their golden handcuffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► are to stick around for they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► they'll have all my guys rewrite in Java [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► yeah yeah they just want to that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► exit strategy they just want to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► money and get out and they're not crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► over the fact that was rewritten and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► even when the people involved are tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► to it so for example there was a I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► believe I can't remember his name some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► of the chatroom help me hacker news dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► uh you can help me Dan guy who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► news dot Y Combinator dot-com the vie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► web guy I don't know you think I'm good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► with names I'm worse than you look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► up chat room come on they're on a lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► they've got a like a five-second delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► sorry I just blanked on his name Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► Graham Paul Graham he didn't write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► software well no I think he was he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► big Lisp dude and they wrote via web in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► Lisp as the first web store and Lisp was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► their big technical right but he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► write I thought you meant the author of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► that the software behind news dot Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► Combinator calm no not it he runs he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► behind that well if we just said the Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► Combinator guy courses Paul Graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► uh-huh anyway the boy I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► would I thought you were gonna talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► me about like the guy wrote the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► that powered the thing I know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► before he was rich and famous he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► wait no Paul Graham was born rich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► famous everybody is always known who he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► was oh no so he wrote he wrote uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► this web-based store way back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► uh and he sold his company to Yahoo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► it became Yahoo stores Yahoo eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► they eventually rewrote all the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► and today right PHP see ya who had its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► own infrastructure and they stuck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► this for a while but eventually as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► became separated from them or maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► was part of his separation they ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► rewriting and that is an example of even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► though the person who is responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► ownership of the company and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► totally he's totally a lisp nerd like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► you read his essays he loves lispy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► thought it was a big advantage he sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► the company and still he ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► getting rewritten and yahoo didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► have a very good infrastructure at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► point they just rewrote it in basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► a different language because they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► have enough people who understood Lisp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► or whatever so this can happen no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► but again at the end of the day he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► get his big exit and now he's a venture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► capitalist and he got to write all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► list was the big competitive advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► to his store and that's why he's rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► now and you're not because he wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► thing enlist but then everyone who reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► that Bull makes him snide comment well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► if it was so great why'd they rewrite it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► and he will say well they made a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► doing that and they will have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► debate bla bla bla but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► infrastructure that runs your web based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► application is it's very visible to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► people who work on it and it makes a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► difference to to the success of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► product and the companies who are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► announcement just just came out Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► announcement what is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► basically they you can video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► one-to-one Skype video amongst everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► tax yeah we talked about that last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► is they just just announced just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► they're pretty fast huh you knew about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► last week though you said they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► doing some sort of deal with yeah yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► knew all about that and there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► so let me use the Google pool before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► that do use the Google+ hangout so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► hanging out I still have not tried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► again I said it's probably not for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► think would be gratefully idea the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► I would so hang out with you on Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► everyday yep the real version of hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► out is more like what teenagers do were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► just like ambient whereas when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► adults do any video chat I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► obligation to like it's a telephone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► an obligation to interact with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► person who's now on the video thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► versus it's just taking the window with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► everybody you want it and chucking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► off to the side and continuing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► what you're doing like cuz if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► actually hanging out with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► you're not constantly staring at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► and making eye contact and talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► you're just hanging out you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► know used to hang out when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► teenager you didn't have you had no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► place to go nothing to do no agenda no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► you were just there together hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► around how would you go and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► were doing that where would like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► play would you be over someone's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► or would you go somewhere you know would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► be at their house right there mom it'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► be there be weird how's the good who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► those basements in the head oh I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► allowed to have video game consoles as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► kid so I would be over my friend's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► who had video game consoles and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► would be in the basement and you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► you know we'd always wind up we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► want have a don carter's i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► no place even if the greasy fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► discusses what happens we give them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► Florida yeah so we had diners Long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► Island has good diners and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► we had a Denny's that's not a diner now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► daddy's come on it's horrible it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► one place he could go there'd be open at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► 3:00 a.m. yeah did you travel I hop at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► least oh not those were well yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► terrible Denny's was like a bomb a bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► above and I'm just saying if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► have real diners so where I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► where real diners are I mean they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► just in New York no no I think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► New York Metro has good diners but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► must be good diners in the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► country to somewhere but probably not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► the south you just got Waffle House and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► thanks I guess the worst all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► the final bit of follow up I have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► is a quick one so I've been spending my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► time since the last show besides working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► and you know taking care of the kids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► making dinner and all that stuff writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► and I've actually completed my lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► article it's submitted to ours they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► busily editing it I've already made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► couple of changes this again just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► because I submitted that's nice ina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► still still going in there making little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► updating a few words here and there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► hope they will be done editing it within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► a day or two they'll send it back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► and I will incorporate my changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► then it will just be stewing in the CMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► waiting at the publish button meanwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► I will be frantically running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► finding all the things I forgot to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► about and trying to shove them in I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► try to leave it alone because I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► interrupt you and say I actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► little tidbit of insider information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► about how you actually write your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► article I don't know if I should share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► that publicly or not then we just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► whole show about how this did this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3045">TS</a>]
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00:50:53 ◼ ► a second-place sponsor is MailChimp calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► these guys have done so much to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► five-by-five we love them they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► easy to design email newsletters you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► share these things on social networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► you can integrate with all the services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► you already use you can design your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► newsletter so you can use the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► are created by these really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► designers they're all there it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► free and they have tons of really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► integrations to they have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► called social Pro which layers your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► mailing list with public social data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► it's really really cool Google Analytics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► integrations autoresponders iOS app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► integration it's all and it's all free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► twelve thousand emails a month to up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► two thousand subscribers there has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► been a better time to join MailChimp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► check them out at MailChimp comm sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► for free and in doing so you will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► supporting this show so thank you so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► articles in the CMS it's in the CMS it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► ready to go you're gonna still be trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► to go yet they're still editing it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► yeah I will try not to keep editing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► but I do have some stats about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► article that I gathered before let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► hear them if you give an overview on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► this so words of notes that I took this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► is a rough estimate because I have notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► application that I learned about from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► Gruber that I use simple note at WotC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► because as a iPad interface but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► has a web interface because I knew when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► I came back home my wife would take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► iPad back and so I can just pull up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► simple note application website and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► all my notes even though I wrote them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► the iPad so I took notes in simple note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► at WABC and I also have been taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► notes for right now six months a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► online basically as soon as I'm done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► with one OS review and it's published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► and out the door I usually start a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► document with notes on the subsequent OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► and I'll start with like whatever my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► notes are what I think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► and every time we learned in Thibodaux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► I'll add to it or whatever so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► about 20,000 words of notes of those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► sources combined that's mostly an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► outline form and by the way long know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► this here's a little tip and trick for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► you if you open up TextEdit and you hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► down the option key and hit tab it puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► you into this really crappy pseudo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► outliner mode I'll give you if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► want to if you don't want to spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► money from the outliner which is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► outline application and it's great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► option tab and then shift tab to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► indent that's what I do my show notes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► for these shows too is the poor man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► outlining mode it's better than trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► to do the outline yourself with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► regular tabs option tab will give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► the little bullets and indent block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► indent stuff for you and everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► free hand lines note certain so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► notes combined 20,000 words screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► taken this is the number of screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► I took on all the various machines I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► been collecting them all in dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► dropbox has been a real aid to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► writing process versus the old way of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► taking screenshots you know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► seven different hard drives and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► different machines that you're running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► the OS on you have to make sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► don't lose any screenshots and put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► all together especially I lost a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► screenshots even this time when I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► reformat and reinstall and forget that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► was just writing over the screenshots I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► had taken in the previous install this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► was before I had bothered to get Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► working online because there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► hacks you had to do so once I got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► up and running online that made it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► easier for me I've taken 397 screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► totaling 214 megabytes this review hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► this is amazing images in the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► this is how many of those 397 actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► okay and obviously they're not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► visible some of them was like you click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► to make bigger and as a separate image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► and stuff like that 124 so more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► half almost like a quarter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► articles and that's a total of twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► five point three megabytes thanks to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► magic of you know compression printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► pages if you were to view this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► in the web browser and a single page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► just print and I didn't actually print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► it I just did print a PDF in the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► when a page it was eighty five eight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► a half by eleven pages oh man a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► of links this is also a rough estimate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► just did a search and replace to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► out how many there are four hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► fifty six links most mostly to Simpsons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► quotes though there are no Simpsons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► quotes linked in this review sorry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► disappoint but there are some most to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► links about Spock yeah number of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► I've hit saved since April 2011 and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► measuring this because BBEdit makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► backup copies of your thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► configure it to make backup copies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► locally I use this in addition to Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► Machine just because you know why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► have another backup it doesn't sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► fruit so I just went into my backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► directory and looked at how many copies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► of this document are in there 2065 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► backup copies of this document in my P V [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► April I think there were ones before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► that I think I might have done a backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► purge at that point and that's only from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► one machine I did most of the writing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► one machine but occasionally I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► written elsewhere and those backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► copies don't count the number of words I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► posted this to Twitter twenty-seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► thousand three hundred and thirty five I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► think that's not a record for me I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► I went over that for the tiger review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► and a couple other ones but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► that makes the thing that makes your use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► feel long is it people like oh how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► pages is it and what they want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► is how many links are there and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► number line at the bottom but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► meaningless because those are not pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► like again there will be little links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► with number line at the bottom of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► thing too but they're not equal lengths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► they're just kind of split roughly into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► if one section seems like it's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► for too long like you have to hit page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► down 17 times so it's like alright split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► that guy and spread it out I know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► don't like pagination and I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► doing it to get more page views but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► honestly for articles like this it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► not to get more page views if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► at the if you look at the page view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► graph of how many people read page 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► page 2 page 3 that is a histogram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► historically the review my reviews look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► like a big spike around page one two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► three then a gigantic drop-off on a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► value in the entire middle and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► big spike on the last page because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► people start reading it realize it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► boring skip the last page gets inclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► that's and there's a long tail people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► who read the entire thing in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► so we're not splitting it up to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► get more page views because if we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► into three pages we would get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► same page views because nobody reads the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► middle umpteen pages right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► reason we split it up is because did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► know well are splits things up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► they sell a premier subscription which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► lets you view articles all in one page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► but honestly look at an article this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► all on page is not a great experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► because when if you're in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► reading unless you memorize the section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► where you are when you like leave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► browser and pull it up someplace else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► you have to scroll to where you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► again where was I you're scrolling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► scrolling and looking for it whereas if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► you remember okay I'm on page six or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► even if you just bookmark page six page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► six is not that long you can say okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► was on page six somewhere let me figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► out where I was in page six so let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► let me add let me ask you question are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► you done with your stats yet they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► going to make us hear all oh that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► friend of mine asked mana and I told her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► that I had finished she said can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► give me a ten word review our ten word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► synopsis OSHA has had to read the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► thing I did come up with a 10 word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► synopsis but I don't know why I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► read it maybe I'll sail until after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► review was published I'll get my 10 word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► synopsis I'm not going to save all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► time then we're actually did 8 words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► with an I added two more at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► around it out to 10 so I'll say that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► for the show after it's published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► okay--oh threw me about that I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► I certainly will and I'm sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► chatroom will too so here's my question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► Ars Technica great vehicle for you to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► use a very well-respected site you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► not work there we should remind people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► that you do not work there but you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► paid and you're going to get paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► and so here's my question have you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► considered you know 85 when I hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► when I heard you say 85 pages printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► pages and I'm thinking about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► really awesome you know these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► awesome books that a book apart my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► friend Jeffrey's element does this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► thing a book apart and these are like 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► page 90 page books that teach you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► one aspect of of usually it's about web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► design or you know content you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► it's in that design sort of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► usability space and they make I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► don't know what the take it home is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► these things but I'm thinking they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► a lot of these books and they must make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► good money on them if you why not why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► not like self publish this this is John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► Syracuse as nosy you know have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► company nosey incorporated or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► it is and you go and you sell this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► on your I'm not saying it I mean no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► know nobody at ours listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► anyway but why not why not like self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► publish this thing is it did did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► just like the set up is that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► too much work for you I'm thinking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► elevating do mean a self publish like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► like a book apart like make a printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► book yeah or or just sell it as a PDF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► the people can download or put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► iBooks or put it on a Kindle I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► out there in the Amazon you know well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► you you know why I wouldn't do it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► printed book because we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► doesn't talk about printing I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► a book right so I'm just I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► limiting it one at a time they would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► would never do print focus print books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► uh and if you if you don't sell publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► it you give up a lot of control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► seriously if you're trying to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► a technical print book is not the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► do it I know a lot of people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► write books tech books for print and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► it's really hard to I mean to make to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► make a living just doing tech books a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► lot of people who have made really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► livings doing tech books in the 80s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► 90s are now having to get other jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► because this is just not lucrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► enough anymore so print on the decline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► and I probably wouldn't do it for a PDF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► I don't know the thing with the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► with my reviews is that like I said with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► the histogram most people don't read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► of them it's not it's written to a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► narrow audience of other nerds like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► who can tolerate this much technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► detail on one thing most people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► just get bored by it right now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► interesting for people like the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► this is a big review and maybe someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► I'll just look back at this section or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► maybe I'll get link to it a year from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► somewhere but I don't think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► lot of people who would pay money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► download a big honkin PDF and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► be a question at that point whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► PDF version the bandwidth costs would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► recouped from selling it right I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► probably sell it to fewer people for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► higher price if I wanted to do that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► thought about this no I'm not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► addressing your idea right as I and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► thing is I've never actually considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► doing this because I'm not in this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► the money I have a relationship with Ars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► Technica that's like you know 10 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► years long maybe they publish maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► self-publishing but they may do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► they've done that with some of the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► popular articles like the recent article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► remember that yeah they it they did an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► eBook version of that they sold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► through Amazon and a bunch of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► channels that that's I went I'm in good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► ryr tell whoever it is in control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► dars that I'm in line to buy this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► just to support the work that you do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► the ars people tell them tell them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► now Hingham ran out yeah I know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► in a chatroom Athan focus but I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► you this though like back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► tell my articles were by far the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► traffic thing on our stack and Orson you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► carried you carried that brand for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► decade I carry the brand but when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► articles did come out that one article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► had a lot of hits but that changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► four or five years so for example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► HBGary business those articles did just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► fart away like ten times more than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► one of my Mac os10 articles did because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► something or a scandal or interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► topic so hackers and political drama or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► interesting than if I printed pages on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► an operating system and people just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► to know should I buy it or not I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► the to page that's not what we want now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► that's not what I want and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► what people losing this podcast may want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► but broadly speaking that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► you know what else if you printed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► thing out and as a paper book and signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► it you could just leave some copies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► the local bookstore people would buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► those be great I'll call them tracks as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► someone pointed on the chatroom if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► whatever it is like fifty dollars a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► not only can you get full-page versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► of every article if that's what floats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► your boat but again I would recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► against doing that for a long are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► like this but you also get the PDF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► download so they're doing EPS of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► my articles and give them for free for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► people who subscribe for fifty dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► year so if you really want to think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► were buying a PDF you said you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► line so great pay RS 50 bucks you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► PDF of my article and every article they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► produce for an entire year that's long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► it's not a bad deal how much are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► sponsoring the show for since you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► going on and on about I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► you asked that you said you were in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► to pay for you were right I'm in line to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► I mean I'll pay I'll pay hours also I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► sign up is in our subscriber I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► seems like a good value I mean but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► want I want to make sure that you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► cut of that that's all well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► that's I'll take it up with you hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► guys offline if this was my main job I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► would be much more aggressive about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► making sure that I get paid what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► it's worth for it but this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► just a hobby and I do it for fun and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► know well I mean your lot your loss is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► our gain yeah hey it's available for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► free to read if you really want to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► this much stuff about it Mac os10 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► there I do I read every word of it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► don't click the links because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► want random Simpson sound bites you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► you understand everything that's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► you won't have to click the links but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► never know if I click a link it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► you know is your mouse over you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► I don't like to have to do that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► I don't like to have to read it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► confusing to me where will this go I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► listen here's this is this is my follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► I've come to come to find out a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► bit about your methods of how you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► that you did not detail in the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► investigative journalism I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► don't like to brag or anything but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► okay stalking or go ahead well no so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► here's the thing I'm I wake up early and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► when I you know I start working and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► have a cup of coffee it's time to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► work beginning the day I'll launch I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► launch the the chat client and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► who's there it's John Syracuse he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► online and it's early it seems early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► from site I pop open window hi John oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► this isn't John this is his wife turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► out your wife has now been forced to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► your computer instead of her own why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► because you've taken over her computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► to install lion on that and then you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► actually taken your wife's computer away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► and she can't even use it for all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► these weeks that it takes you to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► this article explain that not all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► weeks I only in the past push have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► completely taken it off her desk and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► it over here I have lion installed on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► Mac Pro but I also have line installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► on an external hard drive that I boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► her thing from and I like to write on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► Mac Pro but I like to write in my Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► Leopard environment where things set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► and a screen share to her computer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► is running a lion which is sitting right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► next to me so I haven't completely taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► it away but definitely in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► question she's not able to use it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► so for yeah for at least a week or so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► week maybe five days I've had her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► computer on my desk but even then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► night time sometimes I will reboot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and just know leopard put it back on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► desk letter how thoughtful of you yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► but occasionally when she wants to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► the computer and it's not available she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► will just use my computer and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► that was my day to sleep by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► get to sleep in on Saturday she gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► sleep in on Sunday there was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► several days in that row that was Monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► I know because Sunday I got up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► kids Monday she did Saturday is she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► nice and gave me two days weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► because I've been up late writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► commandeered her computer she still does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► wonderful woman yes someone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► chatroom asks if I try to virtualizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► line yes I did get line running in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► vmware using some instructions found on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► but once you get line in vmware so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► line in three places I had it on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► Pro in VMware my Mac Pro and also on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► MacBook Pro in VMware it works but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► resolution changing doesn't work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► great the shared folders business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► the VMware tools that try to integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► your mouse and your hardware don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► that great lots of bugs in there but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► works well enough for me to I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► that for a while when I wasn't stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► her laptop so that basically I had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► self-contained my writing environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► the way I wanted it the other thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► that I do my images in Photoshop so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► had Photoshop on you know - on my Mac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► I can't run the version of Photoshop I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► have in line because it's a PowerPC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► version and I don't really want to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► whatever it is four hundred bucks for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► Intel native version of Photoshop when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► use it like once every two years to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► screenshots it's really overkill yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► but I do like Photoshop oh so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► I was doing everything Snow Leopard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► yes you called my wife many times with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► your typical random messages in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► sometimes I wasn't even the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► computer and I just she's great - way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► better talk to them than the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► John yeah - have long conversations I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► back through the chat log go look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► logs I recommend it I I suspect this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► three obscure sentences no no no there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► association so she gets full sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► oh yeah she gets the whole thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► talked about you know I won't go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► the full details but we we reminisced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► about certain neighborhoods in in Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► and surrounding areas the cost of living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► and moving the the building where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► work now that uh both my aunt and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► granddad worked in and I almost worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► in we won't name it because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► want you know people are creepy and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► know I'm like stalking you we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► talked about that building yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► hadn't had a chance to talk to your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► you're wonderful woman how does she deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► there's a shirt now so but that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► all that's it do we have a topic I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► we're done I think we're over the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► show yeah I mean look we've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► the 67 minutes people are getting what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► they paid for if we go over an hour all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► right I mean I did have another topic we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► could save it for another show someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► in the chatroom brought this up I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► teasing if we can do a next show is uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► we meant to talk about this a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► remember I threw some offhand comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► about markdown in a past show and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► yeah talk about markdown so I will talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► about mark you don't use markdown you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► use textile I know I'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► markdown and my views on it in a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► episode it can't do tables that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► don't use it and we did this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► completely a follow-up episode we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► followed up on yeah so next episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► markdown oh well you know depends on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► line is released because one line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► released we will spend probably multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► everybody just talking about my stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► review that you didn't read is this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► long not you Dan because you say you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► gonna read no I do I said I'd coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► shop and I prop the thing up I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► look big tall cup of coffee which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► need you go to stay awake for the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► thing and you just take it and read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► read 85 pages one sitting then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► all excited then you run home and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► install it or you install it first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► you say I don't know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► here and then you read it and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► realize all these these cool things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► here's a let me just throw this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► we'll end on this note for those in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► audience I I suspect that there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► for those people in the audience who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► developers and have a licensed legit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► copy of Lion which everybody knows has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► been released as the gold master the GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► do you recommend that they install this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► on their primary machines as of today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► well they released but yes oh no a GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► seed so I would say no because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► released as a GM seed will be declared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► the official GM their nomenclature sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► on this they used to have a thing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► RC which is a release candidate and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► was understood that the any one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4255">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► but until any one of them was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► weren't sure if it would be so they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► release rc1 and they'd find some bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► and they'd say ok we need an RC - and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► eventually keep going and they release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► RC 3 4 and maybe around 4 they say ok RC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► 4 we found no showstopper bugs RC 4 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► being declared at DM and I'm at the GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► and they make a separate release with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► the golden master which is identical to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► RC 4 except maybe some version numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► tweaked or you know whatever but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► they change recently to doing GM seeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► psychological where they want to scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► developers into making sure their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► applications work you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► because once you see GM you like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► god now I really believe you see RC like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► yeah wait a little while make sure my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► app works later once you see those GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► letters because of the history of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► that term meant you'll say oh I better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► make sure my application works on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► because this is the GM seed or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► I think with Xcode they have like 4 GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► seeds they have to keep going around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► sell we found another showstopper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► bouquet how about this GM opposition so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► you're saying just for clarity's sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► you're saying that this is a GM gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► master for those who don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► that means you're saying do not install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► this current GM that is out as of July [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► 6th because you suspect that it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► candidate I I give it a 50/50 shot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► being the actual release but I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► since there's no good way to revert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► except for whiting riping your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► disk and reinstalling or restoring from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► a backup don't install anything that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► not declared the official retail golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► master release of this and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► thing is not it's called the GM seed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► something now if you do install this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► you install one of the subsequent GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► seeds over the next few days or week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► whatever do you know if you'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► to use software update at that point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► get whatever the latest and greatest so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► if I install one of these GM's and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► the illegitimate full-fledged version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► comes out can I do a software update to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► that or do I need to do a reinstall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► again you will almost certainly not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► anything that is prior to the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► retail release to a retail release I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► the only thing software update will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► upgrade is the retail release and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► subsequent versions not any of the RCS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► or anything like that good to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► good to know yeah so and I would say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► here in a report date of next week I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► here in the 12th now that's what I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► bird told me I'm trying not to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► attention to rumors I just wanted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► thing to be fully edited and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► CMS and then I can just do and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► patiently then I'll be out of town this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► weekend softly it won't happen then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► well here's the thing if it does come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► out on the 12th of next week which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► Tuesday that means we will be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► talk about it when we do the show on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► Wednesday of next week that's my hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► now if not if not then we will be forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► markdown we can talk about more and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► about mark and various other follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► things and whatever else anyone writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► in about but eventually we will talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► about line and it maybe multiple shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► because there's lots of topics in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► you can block out a nice six-month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► period to just will do one page at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► dramatic read article yeah I'll read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► you know what that would be fun maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► could do a dramatic reading out very fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► because he read my what I wrote out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► it just reveals how bad my writing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► it's very what if I read it in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► your voice in the Squidward voice my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► voice is the Kermit voice or the Ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► Romano voice you really need to you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► to actually just watch Spongebob and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► Woodward's but apparently I by voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► doesn't sound like him Kermit the Frog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► and Ray Romano is the popular consensus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► on what my voice sounds like now what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► say may remind you of the Squidward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► character but since I do not watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► Spongebob I really don't know how you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► talking alright that's alright I will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► will leave it for as an exercise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► listener to determine whether John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► sounds more like Squidward or one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► these other characters and voice wise or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► what I say both both on merit in concert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► okay all right well listen let's hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► that it does come out let's cross our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► fingers and hope it comes out on the 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► so we have something really cool to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► about if not we'll talk markdowns pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► cool too and why you do or don't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► so have a good week John have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► well that about does it for this week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4514">TS</a>]
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01:15:50 ◼ ► to do that and that's about it we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmOfLEI/4550">TS</a>]