00:00:04 ◼ ► weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► episode number 24 and we would just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► to quickly thank field notes brand.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► as well as istockphoto.com for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/20">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► this show possible more on them as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/25">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► continue let's get started so what's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► how are you doing this week I'm tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► busy you're very busy you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► very hard on your lion extravaganza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► which when does that come out you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/43">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► you have to be ready for that so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► Apple says it's out in the 12th you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► to get it out on the 12th they say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► on 19 it's a 19th I heard last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/49">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► around yep I I mean I'm just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► get it done ASAP I'm not really worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► about the date because the date is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/59">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► going to make me do it any faster it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► got to get done just as soon as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► done it'll be done yeah and I hope I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► but if I'm not I'm not now you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► get done you can't you can't be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► that I'm working every possible way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► get done waking moment be done yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/78">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► and traditionally I haven't always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► ready yet day and date sometimes for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► older reviews I was a week or two behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► it was only recently that I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► having the review ready on a day of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► release so it seemed unthinkable to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► that you would you would be late on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► yeah well we'll go on sometimes that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► were really late like because they it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► was actually kind of good to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► late because all the other reviews would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► anticipating mine you know he's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► wouldn't get run over by the press of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► all the other reviews it would die down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► and mine would sort of stand alone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► was the way it was done in the old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► yourself in any case yeah pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► all right so even though we don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► main topic today I do have a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► of random tidbit follow-up e things okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/128">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► and while waiting for you to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► rhetoric recording stuff ready I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/134">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► collected some semblance of notes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/135">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► recognition software I use because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► was having trouble with RSI I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► remember if we talked about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/151">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► but I figure it's worth putting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► there because I have a little story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► about it I use Dragon Dictate for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► Mac formerly known as Mac speech or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► Mac's speech dictate I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► what the old product name was but a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► speech was this group of people who got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► together to create speech recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► software for the Mac back in the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► when there wasn't a lot or possibly any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► good software that does that available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► of course the hard part of doing speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► recognition software is the recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► engine itself and I don't know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► did originally maybe they had their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► recognition engine but shortly after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/184">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► company was formed and start having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► recognition engine from Dragon which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► the big speech recognition company on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► the PC side of the world and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► big improvement and then subsequent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► that the company that owns Dragon nuance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/201">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► bought Mac's speech so now nuance owns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► Dragon Dictate for the PC and they owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► Dragon Dictate for the Mac and Dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/210">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► Dictate for the night because basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► Mac's speeches product rebranded and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► know improved in small ways so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► that's what I use okay I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► pretty much the only choice on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► for series speech recognition and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► been writing the vast majority of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► line review with this product otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► my wrist would be fried it it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/229">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► know whether it's worth me recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► and not recommending because the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Dictate as a terrible product what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► your alternatives really so but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► it's not terrible the recognition is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► actually really good it's shockingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► good in some cases but the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► itself could use some improvement first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► of all it's slow you have this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/253">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► maybe it's because I'd like to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/259">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► pushed more towards the accuracy side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► but I don't understand what the benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► of speed would be if it's going to miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► transcribe what I'm saying so it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► of like programming correctness first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► and then speed second so it can lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► behind your speech you may have to pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► for it to catch up every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► and the other thing is that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/278">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► inevitably you have to manually edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► stuff that you say because it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► difficult especially when you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► that technology to say things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► speech recognition software doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► understand like acronyms or technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► words and you can teach it technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► tasks if you can so you can give it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► spelling dictionary how to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► things in fact you can feed it entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► text documents and say learn everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► in here but it's still dependent on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► understanding of how those words are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► supposed to sound so you can go to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/309">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► individual word that's not spelled like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► it sounds and train it manually by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► saying the word three times and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► but and I've done that and it helps a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► lot but inevitably they'll be things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► do have to manually add it one example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► is as you can imagine I've been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/322">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► the word lion a lot and it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► impossible to get this piece of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► to transcribe lion as a as the word line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► like the big cat and be capitalized it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► always always lowercase and it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► sometimes ly o N and once in a blue moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► it does Li Owen and then maybe even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► rare than that it does capital Li Owen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► and I tried to train it so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/349">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► it's just I just give up so I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► constantly going back with the cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► and editing sentences that way or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► other thing is it does curly quotes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► I haven't figured out how to stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► from doing curly quotes someone to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► straight ones don't send me email about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► that it's just the way I work they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► if I was acting wanted to change into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► wouldn't object but I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/369">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► even do it I think they just stick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► straight but anyway since I'm writing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► Monaco 9 point the straight code notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► straight quotes look better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► curly one so I like them to be straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► so I will go back and fix them but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► you go back and edit things unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► you're very very careful to correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► interleave manual editing with speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► the program gets confused and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► accidentally select a bunch of text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► around or stop responding so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► I'm told this process of being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► use the mouse and the keyboard combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► with speaking is much much better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► Windows and it is on the Mac I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► know that to be true but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/402">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► I've always heard but I can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► that it's pretty annoying on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► occasionally I have to switch away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► the application I'm in go-to dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/408">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► dictates a little notepad save the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► testing one two three to sort of reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► the system and say ok you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► to me again then go back to my document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► put the insertion point at the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► start talking and my little story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► Dragon Dictate is when I was using it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► Mac's speech there's a dialogue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► thing that lets you pick the button you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► want to use to toggle the microphone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and off which I use frequently because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► you don't want it to be hearing you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► or talk to other people in the room or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► whatever and the key I picked for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► is the upper right hand corner of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► Apple aluminum extended keyboard which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► is the f19 key just because it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► hear without looking like you just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► for the top right corner of the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► microphone very easily and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► had in Mac speech and when they upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► to Dragon Dictate that my configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► got changed I guess they updated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► preference file or whatever and I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► into the Preferences to set it to f19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► again and I couldn't get to accept f19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► as the key that I wanted to use it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► just not register and it wasn't one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► the preset options so I wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► support and I said hey I was using Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► speech now I've upgraded Dragon Dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/469">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► anymore this was one was this September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► of 2010 so I got the little automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► email that says you're in the support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► queue and then a couple days later I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► a response from dictate support at Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► beach comm and they said there is no F [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► 19 key on keyboards that was the extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/486">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► of their reply so me being the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► jerk that I am cropped up a picture from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► Apple's website of Apple's keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► showing the F 19 key and send it back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► them and then there was a couple more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► days and then they replied eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► and said we are trying to locate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► keyboard with F 19 in order to test no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► apology no like oops that was done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► us to say we should have yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► waited and waited and didn't hear back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► and eventually I took it upon myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► get F 19 in every set like I can set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/521">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► 19 so I had to figure out what the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► code emitted by Apple's keyboard was 4f [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► 19 and then go and edit this binary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► plist file and jam in the value I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► I have in the show notes a link to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► support forum thread on their website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► where I eventually posted my solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► basically involved making a binary pea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► list containing you a correct key code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► value and then basics before encoding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► and then sticking that value inside a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► pea list and so anyone anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► googly on the web for toggle microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► f19 should find this result and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► manually fix it but still no reply over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► a year later from from the dragon people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► saying oh we're going to upgrade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► the things that geeks will do to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► their keyboard combos well yeah but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► shouldn't expose it again if they close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/577">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► solution is get your programmers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► allow f19 to be used it's not rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► science it used to work I'm not asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► don't close the ticket because I solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► my I don't even know if they closed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► never get any reply it was just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/591">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► they stopped responding so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► speech recognition ah what I've got next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/595">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► here is I've got John Rubinstein's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► letter to the Troops about webOS apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► $50 Thunderbolt cable and then a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► bunch of stuff on Google+ any preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► well I I think we do it right in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► all right and I would love to hear if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► you have any comments about Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► Pro 10 or X as people are calling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► I will say if we get to it okay um so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► this happened just while I was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► ready for the show I saw a tweet go by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► John Romo Steen is the former head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► hardware for Apple who left Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► become the CEO of pom I guess he was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► uh now he's that the head of all things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► palm inside of HP and he wrote a letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► to does that seem is that seemed like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► oh sure for him yeah definitely good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► it's a good bet still better move for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► him yeah but first of all I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► that money is no longer an issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► him so you can say well you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► been a more money inside Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► now he doesn't care about money though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► so money is not as your second and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► works on I remember how before you told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► me that if you all of a sudden had a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► of money you wouldn't want to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► anymore how much is that figure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► would you need to have John siracusa uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► maybe ten million ten million my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► said I was talking to my wife about she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► said it's more than that so maybe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► has plans that I don't know about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► yeah ten million would probably do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► right ten million and you would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► like you'd never have to work again yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► yeah I think we're gonna get you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► alright oh I'll watch my mail for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► check and work on we'll work on it so uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► so yeah I think it was a good movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► because he'd pretty much done what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► was tasked to do an apple he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► head of hardware hardware became very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► successful Apple became very successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► he reaped the rewards but he wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► try something different he wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► the guy in charge for once and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► so off he went I don't know if if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► executive team at Apple felt betrayed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► him leaving but I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► should he just wanted to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► different and he wanted to be the guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► charge for lunch and he wanted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► it a shot so anyway he's reading all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► reviews of the new touchpad that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► out recently palms tablet or HP's tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► and sent an email an internal email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► which I assume was meant to be leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► it's hard to tell with these things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► usually when these things leak it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/734">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► because the people who wrote them know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► they're going to leak so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► written to the internal audience it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► did the press and I he compared the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► reviews that the touchpad and webOS are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► getting to the early reviews that Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► os10 got he has some quotes from reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► I'm assuming they're from like high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► profile reviews like The Wall Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► Journal New York Times but the quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► are over all the software is sluggish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► quality apps to use so it won't last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► it's just not making sense and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► provides them but with no context and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► says it's hard to believe these quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/767">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► were actually about Mac OS 10 now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► not hard to believe him it makes plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► of sense in fact I wrote similar things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► in my early reviews it was just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► remember when Mac was 10 was like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► early days and he says our situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► are very similar and just as Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► overcame these obstacles to become as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► great things so will we and Glenn flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/788">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► one who led me to this story tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/792">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► that his comparison ignores the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► that other desktop os's were crappy ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► competing with iOS which is decidedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► different playing field that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► that's Glen's assertion that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 was bad but everything was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► and Mac OS 10 was clear the next step it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► just wasn't ready yet versus I can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► of see a versatile webOS now is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► first next-generation mobile platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/819">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► iOS filled that role and webOS is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► in late to a market that iOS created and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► then that iOS dominates in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► product quality at least if not sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► numbers so it's a little bit of spin but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► there is some truth to that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/836">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► thing with webOS is that it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/837">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► that Mac os10 feel and that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► boy it would be so great if only and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► then you list two or three things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► the two or three things are always it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/846">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► it's too sluggish doesn't quite feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► right some things don't quite work yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► right if you look at the screenshots or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► demonstrations you say yes everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► about that is awesome in fact it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► many things better than iOS but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► actually use it it just doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/859">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► like they use to say but Mac OS 10 just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► doesn't feel snappy doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► snap the snap with the spelled teh or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► the snappy and that's true but Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/869">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► improved a lot in the first couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► and webOS like every time a new device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► comes out like this will this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► the one where webOS won't feel slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/878">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► than like the touchpad comes out surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► they'll have a good CPU in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► webOS will feel fast and this will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► the difference but apparently no still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► feel sluggish so why now why is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► don't know like I used to wonder the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► same thing about Mac OS 10 because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► seemed like a long time we were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► through why why I can't get it fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► there was all these fantasies with Mac I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► was kind of like well they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► they're gonna include a dedicated chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► in the next line of Mac's that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► aqua faster it's going to be a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► embedded GPU or a special support from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► video card vendors or that'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► eventually a combination of factors made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 feel faster GPU support was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► one of them but there was never any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► dedicated chip and there was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► faster CPUs improving their code many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► things combined to make it faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► what was the turning point for you John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► were you where you went from saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► this should feel faster - this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► fast this is good is the way it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/928">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► feel it was kind of a frog boiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► situation where you don't notice while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► you're in it that uh that it's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► but then you just wake up one day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/935">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► you realize if you're a frog that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► boiled and if you're using that goest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► end that you know hey it's not not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► bad anymore like there wasn't a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► significant chunk off of it I think ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► point one was probably the biggest jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► because ten point oh it was just dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/950">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► slow and ten point one was such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► jump it was still unacceptably slow but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► it was probably the biggest gap because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► ten point I was rushed out or it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► like it was rushed out it was just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► know not optimized correctness first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► speed later so but they slowly added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► that GPU support with the GPU based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/967">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► compositing was it was another big jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► whatever we called quartz to the extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► quartz GL the thing that does a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► bit of drawing on the GPU as well but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► that point max themselves had gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► faster Intel the Intel transition really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► helped things because that was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► bump in speed just from changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► Intel chips because the power pcs had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► stagnated for a while so I think by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► time you got GPU based compositing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► ability to GPU paste drawing and fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► Intel CPUs when you had all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► acceptable fast and I remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► release that was maybe it was like ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► five ish probably somewhere around there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► why can't webOS get its act together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► well it's not quite as easy on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► mobile platform because you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► keep getting bigger hotter faster CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► you have power constraints and battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► life and stuff like that so it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► easy to make the big jumps CPU speed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► it was on the desktop uh and maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► hasn't had enough time yet I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► technology stack to know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► hang-up is like are they doing GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► accelerated drawing there must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► because you couldn't possibly do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► compositing they're doing on us on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► mobile CPU wouldn't work maybe the lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► has to do with I don't know some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► memory allocation issue maybe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► a too many layers on the layer cake that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► makes up their stack where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► WebKit well they have that their API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► frame their GU iframe we're running on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► top of WebKit which runs the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► their operating system which runs not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► I don't know why it's slow but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► situation I haven't owned the devices so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► I can't say that even though it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► slow is the touchpad faster than the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► - which is faster than the pre like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► there is it making progress I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► assume that it is making progress it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► just doesn't cross the threshold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► acceptability yet but I'm rooting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► them a lot of people are rooting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► cohesive UI of all the iOS competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► it's just a shame they can't get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► hardware and software or act together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► you know do you think they'll ever be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► real competitor to Apple iOS I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► competitor like people people market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► analysts will write how well HP is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► as a result of this and Apple is feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► threatened finally and I mean I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► that's what I mean by success do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► anticipate that it's tough to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► because they may be at the point now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► critical mass just because they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► far behind the eight-ball but I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► HP is patient with them and HP continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► to be successful enough to support them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► like having a sugar daddy like that HP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► the biggest PC vendor assuming they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► continue to sell their crappy printers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► and PCs for enough profit to keep palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► going and assuming they don't give up if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► they play the long game palm could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► emerge as the third viable competitor to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► to iOS you know so you've got is Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► Windows Mobile and palm and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► stick in there I think there's no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► that palm can't be right in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► start getting good reviews now whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► that I will be able to overcome the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► Android Market surely the same question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► about Windows Mobile or Windows Phone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► Series whatever the hell they're calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► it is everyone thinks they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► competitors have so they're kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► the same boat as Microsoft Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► obviously has deep pockets and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► dedicated to Windows Phone if HP is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► equally dedicated I see no reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► with Windows Phone for third place many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► years down the line and who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► Android could stumble the fragmentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► thing could become an issue who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► what's going on over there so if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► story have his apples no I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► what I have a note here I wanted to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► you a question before we jump the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► story back to your your discussion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► using voice recognition software and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► said you know you people should know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► that your operating system reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► generally tend to be many many many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► pages they're incredibly detailed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► long and you mentioned that if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► been typing this yourself you'd be fried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► you would be unable to use your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► you have Klaus France sort of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► they have when they're out on the crab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► fishing boats when the greenhorns go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► there like on Deadliest Catch and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► the first few days or whatever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► their hands are just like claws that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► would be you yep but you write code for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► a living you're at a desk writing code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► all day long right you're not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► voice recognition to write the code are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► you now I would definitely annoy my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► neighbors never work I will be weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► that would be really weird especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► Perl right you could do it if the if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► dedicated to that and actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► speech recognition is pretty good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► doing punctuation like when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► comma period stuff like that although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► did have a problem at one point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► review where I was trying to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► word period and if there's some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► verbal escape sequence to let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► software know that I'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► period but I need I mean PRI OD not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► insert the piece of punctuation I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► know what that escape is so I just type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► the word period but yeah similarly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► know open curly-brace newline tab tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► you know you could say that I suppose so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► you are typing in your office you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► just typing but I guess you're typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► much less when you're writing code then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► you would be if you're writing a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► article now it's a similar amount just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► that I have a certain number of words in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► me per day that I can maintain while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► addition would push you well beyond it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► pushes me over the limit so yeah but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► you've taken off work for example maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► then you could type it maybe although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► the volume is so high and for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► because like working as a programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► especially with server-side stuff your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► your time is split between writing code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► and like deploying code or debugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► problems in production and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► that where you're not always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► banging out code a lot of your time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► spent you know it's still typing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► you're at a command line but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► the same it's like do something then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► watch a result then do something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► and watch a result or an investigative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► typing at a command prompt is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► than straight programming and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► programming you're you know going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► web browser to look up some thing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► reference or something like that whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► when you're typing prose if you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► roll you can just be going straight type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► type type type you know so I think even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► if I took all I would still want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► to bead recognition it's just it's I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► not that great of a typist so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► speak in speech recognition faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► comfortable you know you just you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► and words appear on the screen your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► hands don't have to do anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► beautiful thing all right continue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► your next topic please write so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► Thunderbolt we talked about a few shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► back it's now shipping on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► products and then everyone was like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► so where are the things that I can plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► into my Thunder right big deal yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► finally there are products like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► raid arrays available for people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► maybe just some regular hard drives too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► and they're getting well reviewed this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► mac world review of the some raid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► products showing that it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► ridiculously faster than the firewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► 800 predecessor product or a comparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► Thunderbolt living up to its reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► it seems great but the the product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► question I believe did not even ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► with a Thunderbolt cable and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► said if you want a Thunderbolt cable buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► it from Apple for 50 bucks and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► what Apple offers a $50 cable which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► not unprecedented because if for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► generation iPod Touch to your television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► through component video cables the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► four connectors with like the blue green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► I figure what the calls are but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► not composite which is the crappy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► component was the good one before HDMI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► came along so if you wanted to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► which seemed obscene but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► they charge so now thunderbolt they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► won't hood you dollars for this cable - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► Technica story i put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► shows this $50 cable lease has something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► to justify the fact that it costs more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► than five bucks I don't know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► certainly doesn't but at least you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► say well I can see why this cable costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► more than a USB cable why what about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► this is my Japan it's because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► firmware in there there's little chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► the cable in the cable and the connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► I don't know if there's two of them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► ends that I fix it tore it apart there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► some pictures in the earth technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► article of the of the teardown I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► assuming there's a chip like this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► both ends but it's a tiny little chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► you know but it's its active components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► inside these cables it's not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► piece of metal wrapped in rubber with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► connectors at the end and supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► that's this is called active cabling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► where the cable doesn't just lay there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► it does it participates in the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► so what is it doing what is the firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► doing so apparently active cabling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► commonly used when the data rate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► really high and these type of chips are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► there to sort of calibrate the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► signals of you know detect how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► noise and attenuation there is over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► basically you know I don't think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► chips cost more than $0.50 each or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► something but it makes that it does make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► the cables more complicated to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► together there is some tiny little board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► that the chip is on and everything has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► to be all correctly integrated John do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► intelligence do you need an active cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► for Thunderbolt or can you just get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► regular old cable according to Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► Thunderbolt connections can only be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► with a Thunderbolt cable and Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► cables have these things all have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► yeah so I well we the only is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► table available for purchase so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► currently they all have them in no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► mean is are we gonna are we going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► start seeing cables coming out that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► less money that don't have this and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► they work as well or will will will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► everybody be spending 50 bucks on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► cable forever for eventually it'll be 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► bucks or something my impression is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► all Thunderbolt cables will have a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► assume that all Thunderball cables will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► not cost $50 forever because once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► manufacturing machine gets their hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► on the technology to make these cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► which I assume they will the price will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► come down down down but I think all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► them will have this chip inside them my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► understanding is that if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► this chip you're basically a mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► DisplayPort cable and it won't work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► can't use a mini DisplayPort even look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► at the connectors are the same you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► use a me DisplayPort cable to connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► your Thunderbolt raid that you got or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 2 firewire adapters yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► haven't seen any again well in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► all these things are possible and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► think as soon as it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► firewire cables where as soon as the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► the rest of the world gets their hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► these things you'll see a flurry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► products coming out a lot of them crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► I'm sure but the prices will go down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► the diversity will appear and like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► like today it's a lot easier to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► fire work it you can go into like Best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► Buy probably and find a fire wire cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► whereas that was not true for maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► year after fire wire was introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► probably you can get them in a drugstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► now right so if Thunderbolt will take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► while to be adopted and spread in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► way it probably won't be like USB which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► spread much faster because you a beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► USB was super cheaper to produce these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► obviously are not super cheap you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► you can chip see me to make chips so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► John explained to me the why wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► mana price or a company like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► already Belkin whoever who's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► good at making cables come out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► you know what we're going to we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► going to take the lead in this we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► going to be the first ones to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► with high-quality affordable Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► cables here they are they're cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► than Apple we've got them all anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► you want we got all the debt why isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► there a company that's like stepping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► doing that why are we here hoping Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► real think you Apple for giving us a 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► to honking well they can't do that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► their own because they they just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► license it from Intel though right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► they have to have a license something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► from somebody I don't know who owns the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► rights to what but the bottom line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► sending a letter we'd like to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► doing it and what I guarantee you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► have been many many inquiries made to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► licensing for this but doesn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► you're going to get a prompt response I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► also don't know what the lead times are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► on doing this type of thing they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► manufacturing these little chips could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► manufacture them and you have to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► through them for some short period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► time you never know what the deals are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► the business deals are about this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► it's not for lack of trying I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► you that everybody involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► industry who makes cables is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► make cables for thunderbolt and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► probably will also try to sell them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► you know $40 instead of 50 because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► profit margin still got to be huge so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► everyone wants in on this gold rush of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► new fancy cables and every wants to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► in early as possible before the prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► go down before the race to the bottom so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► they can sell them for 40 or 30 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► even when that you know which is still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► huge profit margin when the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► something I think Thunderbolt was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► name of tantos horse wasn't for my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► it's for your goal something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► some cartoon about TV about a dog named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► Thunderbolt where he is he thinks he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► superhero he's really not a super he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► plays one on TV or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► number one super guy no this is uh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► is new there's some kind of Disney CGI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► um I don't want a white dog something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► yeah maybe our first sponsor today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► field notes brand made in the USA memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► American tradesmen Edition a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► release for summer that's sturdy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► reliable and comes with a carpenter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► something that will last a hundred years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► these things are available individually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► and as part of a yearly subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► they're the official notebooks a 5 by 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► of course and being such there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► coupon code heard it from Dan all one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► word use that and you'll save 25 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► recommend field notes brand I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► writing it down to remember it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► writing it down to remember it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► alright and so the final thing I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► is Google+ are you on the Google+ I am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► was invited to forget who invited me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► thank you whoever it was I mean I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► but who ever was thank you I'm on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► I I think I kind of know what to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► it yeah I put you in circles yeah I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► you in there right yeah we put each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► you're like rats in a pack the two of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► yeah what does that do for us what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► we doing next so the way I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► about Google+ is start by talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► Facebook which is the obvious comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► product and I was thinking about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► Facebook is so popular and secondarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► why I don't use it I have a Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► account I just don't use it at all I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► thinking that Facebook is popular for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► the same reasons that Apple's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► products are popular it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► Facebook helps people be successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► doing something that before Facebook was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► too complicated for non-geeks to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► computers and you can you can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► people be successful with technology in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► two different ways one is the the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► approach which is to be really easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► understand and use like the iPod just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► had one big wheel and a button not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► completely integrated software like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► was easy enough to use it was a big step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► up from these little mp3 players made by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► whatever Samsung or whatever with tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► little buttons and complicated software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► and little LCD screen little cursor keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► succeeded in that way the other way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► can you can help people be successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► with technology products is to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► incredibly popular that helped to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► this thing is readily available and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► Facebook had the kind of like pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► help where not only was help available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► you were forced to use it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► would say you've got to get on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► because your whole family is on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► if you can't figure it out I'll show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► how to do it but just get on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► get on Facebook I'll get on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► with you I'll tell you how to use it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► for the older people if you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► pictures of your grandkids they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► motivation for you to figure out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► Facebook thing how'd you get down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► and figure out how to see those pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► combination of being easy to use or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► easier to use than the alternatives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► that if you are non-technical and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► want to put pictures of your grandkids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► online and you're not a Mac user your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► options are kind of scary whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► Facebook was like a one-stop shop sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► up will suck you into our world and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► may not be the greatest UI in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► but eventually you'll figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► to get your pictures online whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► before you were like well do I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► get you the web hosting company or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► software product to put pictures up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► Microsoft's picture you were right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► you know it's just a confusing world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► stuff Facebook was a unifying force in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► saying here do your stuff at this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► now think about the reasons I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► Facebook and don't use it well one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► the reasons as silly as it might be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► it's valid is that everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► using Facebook like the non geeks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► doesn't feel like a place for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► like me it feels like a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► everybody else so in the US and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and the reason modern I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► technical people aren't all on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► I know some of them are but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► reasons I think it didn't catch on is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► because especially if you're if you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► in the web is that Facebook doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► like part of the web I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► think about why it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► part of the web but because it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► doesn't and I think if you talk to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► web developers or designers that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► will they will agree one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► is that there's no obvious URLs for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► things so the the fundamental part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► the web is if you can see something in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► web page you should have a URL you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► should be able to send that URL to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► somebody else and anything that breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► that doesn't feel like the web like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► someone goes to that URL and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► to sign up for something to see it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► doesn't feel like the web or if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► no URL at all for an individual comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► you can go just go to the page or if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► URL is just for the top level of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► comment stream but not to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► post or even if there are URLs available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► but it's not obvious how to get them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► know if that that doesn't feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► web that feels more like an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► that's fine for something like email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► like Gmail application if there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► obvious URL for message number 55 you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► not going to be sending people URLs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► your own email that's that's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► feel like an application and not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► place or a site on the web but Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► is supposed to be so you're putting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► pictures up there you're talking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► people all that stuff it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► feel like part of the web and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► it doesn't feel like this ownership of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► the content it's like you give your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► stuff to Facebook and then Facebook does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► whatever the hell it wants with it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► if they rearrange it it appears in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► different places that they change their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► if you want your old content it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► always easy to go figure out how to dig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► it back out you're never sure if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► URLs that you are using are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► stable from version to version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► software it just it just feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► you're giving up on the ships for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► privilege of being in this Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► now how Google+ feels different I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► know if it's better but different it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► feels different to me because it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► little bit better in some of these areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► so that it feels like slightly more part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► providing URLs for everything they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► have the problem where if you have a URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► with something it's only shared with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► circles a and B and you send it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► somebody in the not in those circles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► they have to sign in to see if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► in those circles and they can see it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► not but at least they're trying they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► Google does have on day one which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► impressive complete data export for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► everything you put into Google Plus so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► you can go there and I think they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► the data Liberation something-or-other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► where you can export all your data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► immediately your data is not trapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► Google Plus if you want it to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► you can get it out and it integrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► with other Google services that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► consider part of the web already like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► integrates with Google search and Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► search is clearly part of the web you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► can pass those URLs around everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► uses it it's not a little walled garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► it's part of the web and it integrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► with their mail product too which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► more like an application but it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► something that people use every day so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► it feels like something we accept and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► someone was pointing out one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► clever things that Google did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► Google Plus is provide invites to tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► journalists because the tech journalists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► now feel like they're an exclusive club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► that does include them so it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► it's mostly geeks at this point it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► bunch of tech nerds and other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► were invited to join and they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► invites to their tech nerds friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► so lo and behold where we all weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► using Facebook suddenly we're all on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► Google+ just because we feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► just us here obviously if Google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► successful the Google+ that will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► but they've got their foot in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► of geekdom you know where it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► like Twitter Twitter did the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► and a lot of other services Twitter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► was just it was made by geeks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► first people to use it were geeks and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► felt like it was our place and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► though now you know celebrities are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► there and everyone else that the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► public has come and taken over we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► I think geeks still feel like Twitter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► our place because we were there first uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► yeah and it also feels in a way Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► feels big enough that it can be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► place and you can enjoy it you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► it essentially the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► even though Ashton Kutcher is using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► you know that like that doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► starting to change I think and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► Twitter is responding much more now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► what the masses want or the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► yeah and that that actually goes back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► think to your to your point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► Google+ which is there's almost a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► that because Google is Google it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► appeal to the masses but it'll always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► have that sort of engineering geeky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► Flair like everybody that I know has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► gmail account pretty much and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► most of them unlike Facebook everybody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► know has a Facebook account only some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► them use it I have one I rarely use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► you you have one you never use it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► everybody that I know pretty much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► one whereas I think with something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► like Google+ I think there's this hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► that it'll always be this engineer style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► thing by the geeks and and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► might hurt Google in the long run but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► think the geeks will like it for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► whereas Twitter has changed it's changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► a lot because the mass market appeal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► it Lady Gaga's on Twitter now yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► heard somebody say this was outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► realm of what I think is reasonable at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► this point but someone was mentioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► that since they seen all their tech geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► friends storm on to Google+ and during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► the launch to give it a spin the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► thing happened with Google Wave by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► way everyone went to try it out but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► difference with the wave is they try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► out and said I don't get it and quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► left but with Google+ that didn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► so with all the geeks storming to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► someone said well at least a twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► continues to be annoying to us geeks we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► have an alternative now I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► Google+ as a remotely an alternative to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► disaffection being sown among tech geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► but the recent Twitter moves in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► and they change ously and maybe people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► are feeling Twitter isn't the place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► it once was and looking for alternatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► I don't think Google+ is it and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► really feel that way about Twitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► some other people do apparently it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► some sense the other thing about Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► perspective is it's not crapped up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► ugly ads like the stupid get a flatter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► belly things we got to see some person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► flabby belly or those dumb drawings or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► everyone knows those annoying ads if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► don't run an ad blocker you see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► everywhere and even if you do run ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► blocker one sneaks through every once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► a while and Facebook has those kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► ads on it and geeks don't like that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► we just don't want to be bothered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► that type of stuff we don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► sexy women who are waiting in your area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► call Matt you know that's not what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► degrading it's insulting and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► I don't wanna Deeks are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► willing John than then let's say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► masses the non geek masses I think geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► are much more willing to pay to not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► yeah pay or seek you know do other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► trade-offs right let's write offs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► are not is it significant to geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► because it's more complicated to you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► well geeks have no problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► but so far I mean it's not Google is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► everywhere and there probably are if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► they're ads in Google Plus I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► seen them because I have such incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► ad banner blindness that I just simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► don't see them but all I know is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► definitely not ugly image ads like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► see on Facebook right so I there are ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► in Gmail but if you ask me where the ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► are in Gmail I could not tell you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► literally do not see them right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► don't interfere with the use of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► product they're not being shoved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► middle of my email threads or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► bothering me so geeks have that ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► to ignore Google's text ads and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► harder to ignore Facebook's things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► there's no so far again so far there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► no application API in Google+ there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► super poking no farmville no mafia wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► no trading fruit with people none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► that BS that all our family and friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► are doing that we find in Ain and stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► that is not in Google+ yet maybe someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► they have something planned for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► certainly they had an API for wave were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► you supposed to write these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► things that work in wave these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► BOTS and all those other so maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► technology will come over to us but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► now it's not there it's kind of like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► of the reasons that people flock to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► Google to begin with especially geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► was that they just had a really spare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► homepage it didn't look like AltaVista [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► Yahoo wasn't crapped up with all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► stuff it was just a search field their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► Google+ feels like that and Google+ is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► integrated with the stuff the geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► already use like you said everyone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► know has a gmail account or every geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► you know it integrates with Gmail which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► I already use integrates with Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► it integrates Google Calendar which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► happen to use so I'm like Facebook where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► it's like leave the web and come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► Facebook and do all your crap here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► Facebook is like a trap I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► Facebook is you know I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► know that the correct analogy but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► it's a people check in but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► check out it's like leave the wits kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► like AOL don't go to the web go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► well it's a separate place and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► our own little microcosmic that's out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► the web we have our equivalent over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► don't ever leave just stay forever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► wonderful sit down and I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► and most geeks don't like that whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► Google+ feels like it's just one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► thing being add to integrated with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► these other things that we already used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► it we were already except this part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► the web you know that did it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► trap it's not a place where you just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► and check in and don't check out again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► and one of it one example this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► you can add people to your circles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► all there are little things they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► Google Plus even if they're not members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► of Google Plus because you can add them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► just by their email address and how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► it know the email addresses of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► you might be interested in well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► you email them a Gmail and I can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► well here here's a list of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► people that you email the Gmail and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► think based on whatever that these might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► be people that you want to add to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► circles and don't worry about if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► don't have a Google+ invite or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► you can still add up the circle when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► they get a Google+ invite presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► we'll connect the dots and you know put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► plug in all the wires so that it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► the person who actually joined Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► Plus it's nice and like a like the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► of Google stuff Google's infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► advantage comes into play here and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► performance has been great even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► we've had the rush of people and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► they did stop giving out invites saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► they had to try to be careful about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► know this is the first release maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► they don't want to have people storming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► it or over maybe it the performance is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► great because they stop giving out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► invites but whatever they're doing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► usual the server's didn't go down they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► didn't become slow I didn't stop using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► it because I click something nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► would happen that happened a lot with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► wave in the early days another reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► the wave failed was that it didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► the usual Google snap Google Ghul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► strengths big strength is their scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► building the infrastructure and despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► all these tech geeks clicking madly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► adding people to circles and throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► things around and getting invites and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► you know all this stuff over the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► everything is snappy and their client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► impressive with all these nice effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► they have all the stops time being done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► client-side so it doesn't do it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► structure but it shows they know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► they're doing programming wise on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► web one of the coolest thing was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► feedback button they have I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► if you tried this but there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► feedback thing in the lower right corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► of the page where you can send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► complaints or whatever so I clicked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► with no expectations figuring is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► to bring up a mail form and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► actually brings up is a UI where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► it dims the whole page and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► highlight regions of the page by undoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► them with a little draggable rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► so you can highlight regions of the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► blackout tool where you can put sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► black redaction lines over over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► parts that you don't want to see because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► information it could be like a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► with people you're talking about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► family members and you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► send that to Google so you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► mark up the current thing you see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► your web browser in the web browser with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► web-based tools and then it gives you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► preview and says this is what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► going to send we're going to send in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► this graphic and now write your text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► you write your text say the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► highlighted annoys me because bla bla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► bla bla bla and then you send it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► it sends the image that you just created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► with their web this tool along with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► description which is a pretty darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► impressive feedback tool like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► caveman-like feedback tools that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► has and they have complete control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► the of the platform they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► client-side software for developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► estimate you know instead we just get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► bunch of text fields with a format we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► supposed to use and then we have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► to the separate application to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► system profile report and shove it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► experience than available with native on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► the native desktop from people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► Apple and they're doing it in a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► browser so Apple should be embarrassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► by this and everyone else should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► impressed and this is just a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► feedback tool the rest of the UI is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► know completely higher level than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► of the things you see on the web these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► second-place sponsor is istockphoto.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► affordable user-generated royalty free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► stock images media and design elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► these guys have got it all no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► what you're looking for no matter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► you are I've over 8 million high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► photos illustrations and clips it'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► you tell your story they also have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► most robust search tool in the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► these guys the real deal they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► highest quality independent content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► they've got two premium collections get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► a new editorial collection I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► seriously if you need an image if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► need media whatever it is you need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► istockphoto.com go there and if you sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► up for for a free account you get a 10% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► discount on 50 or more I stock credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► all you do is go to istockphoto.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► slash 5x5 for details offer expires July [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► 30th 2011 say anything with I stock now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► as for the circles business adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► people the circle circles are basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► just groups I'm not really sold on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► idea of circles I guess you need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► kind of branding hook and it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► sounded good in a meeting house have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► circles they're not groups they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► circles but how are they different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► groups are how are they different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► tagging they're not really different the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► only difference is that little circle UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► and the circle you why does it seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► scale beyond like 13 or so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► because once you get 13 little heads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► that little circle on the screen then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► it's like these are the people in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► circle plus more that we can't show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► because they don't fit in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► circle and it's maybe people don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► more than 13 people in each circle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► maybe when you have one 13 you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► be putting them in a single circle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► again tech geeks are outliers we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► going to have some sort of group for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► like I have an Apple nerds group and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► that is has many many people in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► because many people I know are Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► nerds we tend to network with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► people than maybe on Facebook well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► people have a lot of Facebook friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► too but you know if you're staying with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► friends and family members you could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► limited but if you're trying to network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► professionally for example or pseudo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► professionally where you're networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► with people who are interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► same topic as you your groups can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► pretty big but I don't think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► problem I think they just had to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► some kind of hook and circles was it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► know one of the commitments I see John a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► lot on on Twitter and elsewhere is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► people who are I guess so popular or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► well followed well-liked by others their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► comment and notes on Google+ will rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► essentially liked a lot or plussed a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► and that that will essentially dominate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► people's streams yeah I made the mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► of adding some people to circles who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► really famous and post a lot and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► the same effect on Facebook where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► accidentally friend somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► whatever they call that thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► see people post it will be dominated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► them because so verbose so if you follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► someone like that a Facebook has a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► where just says stop showing me updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► from this person if that's in GUI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2938">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► thought I saw that in Google+ but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► look when you're looking for it I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► find it so maybe it's just not I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► don't know where it is but they need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► feature like that but yeah the products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► like this yours you're always worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► about who knew I targeted with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► famous people are people with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► for example people with a lot of Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► followers use the product differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► than people with fewer and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► Google+ is exacerbating a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► problems like my biggest annoyance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► annoyance this is actually something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► interesting that it adds it adds a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► toolbar to the top of every Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► property they used your Google Calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► your your Gmail it all has this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► toolbar that integrates all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► products together which is great great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► idea a good integration cross product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► you can share things from one to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► other stuff like that but it also has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► little square it's like a notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► square and the square turns red with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► number in it every time something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► happens on Google+ pretty much anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► new someone as you do a circle turns red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► someone adds a comment to a post that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► you comment on turns red someone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► follow post something turns red and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► you I don't think I don't have that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► people in circles I got maybe 20 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► people in circles but I guess enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► people know of me and know my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► address to look me up and follow me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► every time someone in the world adds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► to a circle that thing turns red and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► that means the thing is constantly red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► it's constantly red and it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► like the unread badges on Doc icons some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► people just don't like having those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► badges I don't like having them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► I turn off badges if I can keep them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► because there's this compulsion to to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► don't have to serve the badge to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► the badge go away whatever the badge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► telling you to unread read them so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► always goes back to zero it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► to-do list it's like in your face saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► here's something you have to do here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► something have to do don't forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► this I don't know what psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► ailment causes people to have anxiety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► when when badges like that appear or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► what family of them but I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► have it so I would and it's constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► red for me because I'm popular enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► that every few minutes someone is adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► me to a circle at least and at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► registering if that continues you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► my complaint I use the feedback tool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► circle that red thing and said do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► want show the badge show a number on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► but don't make it bright red because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► it's but when it's gray I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► then the number is there enough inter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► second look and the worst thing is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► red across all my property so I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► gmail tab a calendar tab and a plus tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► and all three of them have already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► a red thing in it and if I click on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► red thing and one of them doesn't become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► unread immediately and the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► it's still red over there it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► a little bit I mean this is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► personal problem and not a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► our product but I think it's true of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► lot of geeks that they don't like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► badges that it feels like they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► put upon by the product and being given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► thankfully they could all be turned off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► but that's a weird default the Halleck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► anytime anything happens in the plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► world someone comments on posts someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► signs up someone changes a profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► picture someone mentions you someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► tags you all these million things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► could possibly happen you get an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► about it which feels like last century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► it's like it doesn't it also ain't shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► it seemed like the options that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► give you to control that aren't exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► what you want them to be like granular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► but they're not quite giving you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► options you really want yeah you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► like if something is important you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► to be notified of it but importance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► doesn't depend on the medium or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► what I mean yeah exactly well it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► like the person like I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► updates from this famous person because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► they're very prolific and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► constantly doing updates that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► important to me but if my idol Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► Hertzfeld ooh I put into a circle ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► says anything to me I immediately want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► to be emailed about that you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► that's tough to do at least they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► have switches turn them all off so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► turned them all off but enough getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► an email in a product that's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► like it's worse when you're in Gmail I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► go I get an email in Gmail telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► about something that happened go go but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► I also have a red badge telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► exactly the same thing because I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► Gmail which is integrated yeah it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► silly it should it should detect does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► this press and use Gmail then don't send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► them an email for anything because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3178">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► they're in Gmail they're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► the little red thing and know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► something happened and the great thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► is when you click that red thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► doesn't just take you off to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► site it brings down a reasonable UI from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► which you can see exactly what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► it could be improved in that you do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► actually had to leave that to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► especially with me like it'll say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► notification is it 15 more people add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► you to circles but this that the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► only displays 10 so you don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► number 11 12 13 14 and 15 are Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► you know John Rubin seen all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► famous people vo what you want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► if a famous person adds you to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► circle but people who you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► who they are you're not as interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► so I'm doing to do a mutual follows like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► when I want to see who has joined up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► like when you added me to a circle I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► think you were off that list so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► go to the full list of people who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► added me the circle scroll down and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► saw your name then I could add you back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► to one of my circles you know so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► process is a little bit clunky but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► is all in the run-up phase where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► all just getting settled in the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► changing our profile pictures it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► interesting once all this settles down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► once we've sort of arranged the room the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► way we want it metaphorically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► if we all keep using it or adjusting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► this board actually I should mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► this I still haven't tried this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► think they're killer feature is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► hangout thing there's this some I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► but they have a hangout and chats that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► they have different terms for things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► the bottom line is one of the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► lets you declare that you're about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► hangout people hang out with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► optionally to it so there's a live chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► and video amongst other people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► ad-hoc it's not just like I'm gonna hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► out who wants to hang out with me hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► this other person is hanging out with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► and I'm hanging out with you this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► technological representation of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► teenagers and young people already do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► with like I am like they sit at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► house and they're basically hanging out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► with each other using an IM client and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► maybe an email client and maybe Skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► this happens all the time now anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► fact that Google realize that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► integrate it into their product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► called it hangout when the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► people get a hold of this this may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► something that Facebook doesn't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► answer for because I can imagine if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► teenagers are able to overcome the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► geekiness barrier and if they they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► tempted away from Facebook long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► to try out this hangout feature I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► anything they could pull anybody away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► from Facebook it's this type of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► type of thing it's not the circles or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► a bowl of things I described because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► regular people care nothing about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► stuff but the Hangout feature as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► semantic equivalent in the Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► world and I think people will love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► apparently the the I read a rumor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► don't know I don't have the link handy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► so probably won't be in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► but I just read that Facebook has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► partnered with Skype to do essentially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► similar I don't say the same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► that that you'll be able to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► just like that within Facebook like next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► competitor competitors are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► they're not standing still but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► the advantage that Google has is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► you don't have to be technically savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► to pull up a web page but you do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► be more technically savvy to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► Skype is to download or to get whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► plug like the fact that it all happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► in a web browser lowers the barrier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► entry huh and it's very difficult to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► video in a web browser so Google has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► own web browser or it can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► happen in an efficient manner so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► imagine Google has an advantage first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► mover advantage certainly but also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► advantage in that it's easier for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► to try this out maybe the barrier is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► have to have Google Chrome I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► if it works in IE or whatever most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► downloading a new browser that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► one-time thing and it's probably easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► to get Chrome installed than it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► get Skype set up you know again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► leans towards geeks who already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► Macs and every Mac has a microphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► so maybe I'm overestimating the value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► this among regular people who just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► have the hardware for it but ah of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► the features they have that is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► that stands out to me as the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► could be popular with the non geeks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► we'll see how it turns out so that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► I've got on Google+ actually I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► more but that's that's the the meat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► it for now do we have time or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► need to go I probably need to go unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► you have to make short you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► to before well I just wanted to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► your general take on the Final Cut Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► 10 thing I did listen to you I'm Way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► behind in podcast because I've been too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► busy writing but I did listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► you have a different thing that struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► me the thing destructing and listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► to it is everybody everybody's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► indignant when the application that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► like changes you know I mean like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► I'm all indignant about the finder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► changing because I like the old one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► everyone else is like who cares I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► know what the finder is right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► and when and when there's when there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► big group of people like the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► editors are just like just so upset and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► it's I feel like saying oh so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► when is your favorite application gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► changed now it's a big problem but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► anybody else has a problem you like ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► your big babies right everyone thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► that yeah I guess its head up and finder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► doesn't affect how you lives these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► people the video editors may not be tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► people they invest a considerable amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► of effort in learning how to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► particular product and if it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► clear that that product is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► useful to them or they're scared that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► it's no longer abuse for them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► faced with the prospect of learning a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► different product like the skills that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► make them valuable have been devalued by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► Apple's actions and that pisses people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► off and that's that's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► upsetedness comes from sandy said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► himself and the things like he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► have time to learn something new but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► this is going to be the long-term thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► now he's got to learn something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► because if they don't if they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► decided they don't want to serve his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► needs that's you know that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► that's on Apple that's what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► do fine but that means that he's now has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► to do something so it's like I trusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► Apple enough to learn their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► thinking I would build my career on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► and now it's pulling the rug out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► under me now that's the perception the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► reality I think is that all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► complaining will eventually come around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► and the reason I think they'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► around is because Apple's competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► are so incompetent you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► love avid love Abbott and say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► great but avid versus Apple I would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► it one tenth of Apple's attention is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► probably worth 100 percent of Avid's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► attention in terms of product quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► and you know future proofing and as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► people pointed out if you are big avid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► fan you kind of got screwed by them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► they more or less abandon the Mac so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► it's not like avid is is the wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► you know everybody every vendor will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► eventually screw you on long press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► world changes business has changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► top dog and in the industry changes over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► time so you're not gonna be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► stick with something forever you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► always gonna have to learn something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► just ask the people who learned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► pre-digital nonlinear editing systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► the many ones of those from different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► vendors they all had to learn something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► new in fact Final Cut Pro was the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► thing to learn for a lot of people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► like oh come on it's Final Cut Pro think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► I already know avid or I didn't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► know the movie Ola or whatever the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► it was in the 60s technology changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► right so as you're reading into what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► Apple thinks about like also they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► they leaving the pearl market or they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► not interested because it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► enough customers or I don't try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► psychoanalyze them too much about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► think the the obvious answer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► basically they think the new ways are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► better than the old ways and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► they are willing as a company to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► whatever hit they're going to take by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► saying we are not going to support as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► many of the old ways as we can possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► get away with now you may scream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► yell and say oh we need this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► XML export and we need that features X Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► & Z and we will add them back grudgingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► but we're trying to move forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► their bet is that they can move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► industry forward without losing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► entire customer base how much of it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► they can lose what's an acceptable loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► will it be balanced out by gains in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► prosumer space you know but this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► that's the gambit they're doing they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► it all the time they did but you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► floppy disk USB ports it's a bet on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► their part saying we're going to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► forward we're going to make progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► we're going to do what we think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► future of the way this entry should work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► and we're going to bet that our losses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► will not be so bad that it will make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► turn out to be an overall bad move well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► that that's somewhat like the I put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► article in the show links that somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► I guess the guy he went on to is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► posters I don't know how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► that you know that the sign I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► you're talking about I guess the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► that works on that or founded that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► to be at Apple and he worked on he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► worked on Final Cut Pro for a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► years a number of years ago maybe back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► at the time that Final Cut Pro 10 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► maybe being thought about and conceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► of and in this article he writes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► Apple just doesn't care about pro users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► you sort of alluded to that or mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► that is you know hey care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► people who are running around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► high-definition cameras who want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► and make something that sort of semi pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► but not quite pro and they're a consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► much more consumer facing company today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► in 2011 than they were in 2008 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► example and I don't I read that article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► and I don't buy his argument I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► I don't the one who's saying Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► doesn't care about the pros it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► do the math and say like pros is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► small percentage there's many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► regular consumers the pros aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► important financially Apple doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► like that Apple does not work it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► that Apple does want something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► can sell to millions and millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► people's they only want hit products but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► if that was their overriding number-one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► directive they would never have created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► Final Cut Pro in the first place yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► but maybe the apple of today is saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► you know we never should have created it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► in the first pinch the Apple that bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► and fostered Final Cut Pro was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► that was introducing the iMac and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► iPod the most consumer of consumerist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► products that they've ever created all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► right that Apple is the thing that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► you know Apple doesn't care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► pros that's the hurt feelings of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► people who now are put upon to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► something new our feeling and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► their manifestation oh they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► about us and people saying inside yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► Apple doesn't care about you not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► Apple doesn't care about professionals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► professionals work they think this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► of doing video editing is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► the old way and professional video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► initiators just want to do their job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► a lot of them they don't care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► future of video wedding they care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► getting their project done on time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► on budget you know what I mean and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► they can't use your products because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► essential features then they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► pissed off and so that translates who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► Apple cares so much about professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► video editing that it wants to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► professional video editing better more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► simple fewer legacy formats fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► integrating with dumb products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► complicated and crappy they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► simplify make it better make it and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► side effect yes that does make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► accessible for prosumers and as a side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► effect yes that does make it opens up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► much bigger market to them that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► wants to do with everything they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► like the idea that there's some thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► that you do that is so complicated to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► that only a small number of people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► do it and think about their development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► like they want to make it developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► easier they want to make interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► builder better easier to layout gooeys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► you know there's guidelines you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► first you don't have to to program in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► lines of code to layer your GUI next has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► an interface builder that's GUI right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► that's that's lowering the bar then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► there you know we'll have snaps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► guides to show you exactly how aqua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► layout has to be because it's too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► to ask for people to read the guidelines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and exactly space things you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► they're just everything they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► trying to make it anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► complicated easier and this applies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► everywhere and it applies to industries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► where people are comfortable with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► way things work now and they just wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3898">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► they had a version of Final Cut Pro 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► that was faster better-looking and add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► eliminate complexities and make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► process of video editing better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► their bet is that as Cranky's people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► will be the net win of making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► process of professional video editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► simpler will pay off in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► it's very difficult to tell whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► succeed but the don't care part that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► do agree with is that if Apple lost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► the professional video editors all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► hardcore ones making Hollywood movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► they would probably not do a big giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► reversal it's obvious they're doing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► smaller browsers to try to try not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► lose all those pros but they think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► this point they think they're right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► think this our way of doing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► editing is better than the Final Cut Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► 7 way was and they're going to stick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► it as much as they possibly can and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► at a certain point if no professional is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► usable then that just becomes the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► version of iMovie or something and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► would be probably considered a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► Apple lost the probe IDEO editing market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► because they didn't bend over backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► enough to support the legacy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► through the transition the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► with Mac OS 10 if they didn't bend over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► everything to support Microsoft Office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► in Photoshop that would have killed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► platform but this is the reverse where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► they're bending over backwards for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► small minority of people so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► lose that market and they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► gain the larger one but really I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► Apple's goal Final Cut Pro is to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► professional video editing not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► complicated and simpler and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► trying to do it single-handedly based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► the cloud they have with the success of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► Final Cut and they're trying to do it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► the same time as not completely losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► market the key thing to notice here will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► be when schools that teach people video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► start using the new version of Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► because that's why a lot of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► industry know it now because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► learned it in school because Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► was cheaper than avid and you could run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► learning video editing everyone learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► industry they kept using Final Cut once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► they start teaching the previous version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► if they start teaching with the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► version then those people come in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► industry they won't be pissed about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► different because they never use seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► right maybe they weren't born when seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► was introduced ah if if they have Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► hangs in there long enough and gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► their product into schools this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► eventually turn over in their favor just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► the way the final cup did because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► they've lowered the price again lowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► the barrier entry again digital download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► 300 bucks instead of a thousand simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► to use easier for more people to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► completely lose the pro market and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► can still keep this as a teaching tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► they will be successful with this gambit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► to simplify video editing despite all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► the the crankiness that's that's where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► think this is going and I do feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► the pro video editors I have sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► for them I've had applications that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► love changed in ways that I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► to simplify it for the other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► I didn't need it simplified I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► way it worked I just wanted you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► faster but that's that's called they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► call that progress sometimes it hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► okay you're gonna get some email all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► right now there's no professional video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► editors listening to this now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► definitely gonna get some email I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► what about what if I said they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► disagree with my psyche we'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► see we'll wait for the emails all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► be a fun week yeah and have a good week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► John you to people to more think to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► little notes I want to make here all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► right one of them is that we get e we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► get for some reason on this show more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► than the others maybe because we refer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► to them more people are frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► emailing to ask what the show notes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► when we talk about show notes and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► like we've addressed this a few times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► but maybe it's worth repeating odd when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► we say the show notes maybe it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► more correct to say to show links then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► notes because when we say notes who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► sometimes I'll add a couple we will find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► links for the stories articles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► points that we talk about if John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► Wikipedia entry for it and put it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► the links so if you want to if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► to find those if you want to see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► you can go to 5x5 TV slash hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► and find the episode there on that page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► that you were just listening to if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► weren't playing it from the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► already and you'll see a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► lists of links on that page a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► summary and everything else that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► need to follow along you put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► order John I do I try to keep them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► order that they were mentioned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► there's drag and drop for that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► there's and below they'd be background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► colors don't I know the background that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► they're alternating row colors I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► you know they don't change you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► have it fade from one color to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► as it slides into its new position get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► yep and or I'll just remove all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► colors altogether you could do that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► okay it would be less wrong if I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► that it's true and people can go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► and they can follow along with us as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► go so that's what I mean when we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► show notes you really should say show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► links but that's how you do it you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► the episode number and dig right in now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► if you wanted to you could subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► the show in an RSS reader and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► case you'll see all the links right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► there in addition that's your choice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► can do it either way it won't it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► download the enclosure by default so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► you'd be fine and that the second thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► was a lot of the time we will will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► let you know what maybe maybe we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► even need to mention that one is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► I think that's enough I was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► that if you subscribe to the feed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► frequently adding and correcting links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► after the show is all right put out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► if there's some show notes link that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► that I mentioned it's not there check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► the website because I will occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► so I forgot to put that link in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► someone will send me a note that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► forgot to put a link and I will add it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► this is the living web John so live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► whereas RSS if you just get the feed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► your feed reader doesn't pull it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► hypercritical that's why you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► know so again that's it that's it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► this week we'll be back next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► you know have a good week John you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► doing so thanks again to our sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► istockphoto.com for making the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► possible thanks so much as always to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► guys for listening those of you who've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► rated the show on iTunes thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► it really really helps people find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► about the show those of you who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► donated at five-by-five TV / donate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► really really thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► doing that it really makes it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► easier for us to keep doing these shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► for you we will be back next week if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► listen to this before you celebrate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► 4th of July have a good one if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► listening to this afterwards I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnWmlQ4/4318">TS</a>]