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23: No Sentence Left Behind

 

00:00:00   hi I'm Dan Benjamin I'm the founder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/0">TS</a>]

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00:00:34   donate and thanks this is hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/34">TS</a>]

00:00:40   weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   what is wrong the world of Apple related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   so perfect that cannot be obliterated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/46">TS</a>]

00:00:50   my co-host John siracusa nosey I'm Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   benjamin and this is episode number 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   we'd like to say thanks to an e group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   and also thanks to simple casts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/58">TS</a>]

00:01:02   making this show possible tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   them as the show progresses john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   siracusa welcome back thank you Dan how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/66">TS</a>]

00:01:10   are you tired you sound no different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/70">TS</a>]

00:01:15   maybe I just always sound tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18   perpetual tiredness unhealthy condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21   for the human being yes why are you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   tired threw up late writing your lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/84">TS</a>]

00:01:27   piece you got it I've been writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   writing a lot writing and not sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   as much but we'll talk about that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   little bit later I think okay I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   we could jump right in yeah well we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   follow-up okay what you got so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/99">TS</a>]

00:01:43   it was a slash show or maybe two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44   ago talked about apples datacenters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   using Azure Microsoft's azure technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   product thing yeah what is that thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/109">TS</a>]

00:01:54   lot of people didn't know what that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   and why it was important other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   fact that it's Microsoft software which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   you would think of course Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   never want to use that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   yeah I was trying to figure out what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   was - if you try to read Microsoft's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05   site it's kind of enterprise-e and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   impenetrable so I asked some people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   know about Microsoft technologies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   the the analogy they gave me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   quick two minute that I had to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   him about it before the show was that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   was like Google App Engine it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   help if you don't know a Google App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/140">TS</a>]

00:02:21   Engine is but I do know a Google App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   Engine is so I can at least explain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   this will give my understanding of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   Azure is so App Engine is Google's thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/147">TS</a>]

00:02:31   where you write an application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   talks through a set of API s that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   provide and those api is talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   google's infrastructure that you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   know can't purchase or buy but they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   let you run your application on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   it if you write to these api so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   example you have an api for talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   BigTable which is their database thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   actually i don't even know if talks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/170">TS</a>]

00:02:51   big tail but some sort of database API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   where you write to it and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   store your stuff for you and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   run your application on their host on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   their servers and whatever the services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   they provide there maybe they do a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   snow I don't think they even do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/183">TS</a>]

00:03:03   filesystem thing but anyway it's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   of letting third-party applications use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   Google's infrastructure and they charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   you for it it you know that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   free version and I think they charge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/192">TS</a>]

00:03:13   for it now when you go over a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   amount of requests or whatever so a sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/195">TS</a>]

00:03:19   sounds like Microsoft's equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   that where you write to a set of api's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   Microsoft provides and they run on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   of services that Microsoft Azure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   provides which are like how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   distribute out your application across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   datacenter and how to access a database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   instead of just talking to a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   sequel server you talk to a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   distributed kind of concept of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   database so the diagrams are very fuzzy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   and full of clouds and cylinders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   stuff like that so I really don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   how it actually works but that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   understanding of Azure now deed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/227">TS</a>]

00:03:51   story I linked to in the last show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   I think was someone who had looked at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   packets going over the wire from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   iPhone or some beta iPhone or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   where they were using iCloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   they were looking at a basically HTTP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   headers right they saw ones that had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   tell-tale signs of Microsoft Azure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   because they they put little headers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   there you know that just spell it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   Microsoft bla bla bla Azure of all blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   and it seems like unlikely that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/253">TS</a>]

00:04:17   would be adding those to throw people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18   off so it must be actually be talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   some kind of add room service now after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/260">TS</a>]

00:04:24   that show I found another story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25   said this is on wind supersite so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/267">TS</a>]

00:04:27   what they're talking about because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28   a Windows site that the evidence was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   conclusive and that it could just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   that Apple is using Microsoft and Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/273">TS</a>]

00:04:37   for that matter as part of their content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   delivery network so in other words the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   you know Microsoft is hosting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   files but only in the capacity as a CDN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   and that Apple has the real copy of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   and so the reason you're seeing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   Azure headers is because they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/291">TS</a>]

00:04:52   served out of a data center that runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   Microsoft Azure but it's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   Apple's data center and it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   know functioning as a CDN that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   perfectly plausible to me - there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   another story that I didn't link but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   was older it was about the former head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   of Microsoft's a sure you're heard maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10   wasn't as earnest maybe was Davis Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   but some some bigwig from Microsoft who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   was involved with Azure was hired onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   apple and April of this year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   doesn't mean he was brought to Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   do as you're related things but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   strange and coincidental that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   would hire away Microsoft data center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   guy if they didn't think having some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/324">TS</a>]

00:05:28   sort of Microsoft's data center product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   experience was useful and then I heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   rumor that that guy had actually left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   Apple since then but I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   I'm confused about the personnel at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   Apple Apple really doesn't announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38   their personnel decisions publicly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   you have to glean all this information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   by digging through LinkedIn pages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   stuff doesn't this just go back though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   to the right tool for the right job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   conversation then who cares this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   right tool they want to use it so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   they just use it or maybe they maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   they're building their own thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   they did couldn't have already in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/356">TS</a>]

00:05:57   yeah same with it let you know for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   there was no I work then when they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   out with it was great keynote was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   the blockbuster hit of that thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   everybody's all keynotes so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   than PowerPoint and that that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   the big turning point for them maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14   they're working on something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15   but it's behind the scenes who care why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   is it so bad what is the significance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   John what is the significance of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   using Azure let's say they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   using it so what I think we covered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   the last show it's not so much the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   that using Azure is just sensational and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   that it's a Microsoft technology but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   things the real thing it could be nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   nobody in the whole of Apple uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   Microsoft Excel for anything there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   one guy using Excel so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   no no but I'm saying for when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   when you're making a data center all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   other guys are not using off-the-shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45   software and Apple is using it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   makes them different and also in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   server space Windows is not dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   UNIX is the dominant server right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   platform so it's it's strange in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   ways so the Apple is being different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/418">TS</a>]

00:06:59   those two ways that they're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   they're using off-the-shelf software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   instead of building and they're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   Microsoft when the dominant thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   most people use is Unix that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   interesting but it may not even be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08   because again we have no actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   informations as all just people trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   to figure things out by reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   engineering things and looking for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   know clues and the pictures and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   like that so we don't know for sure but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   I just want to fall off and that just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   say that there was some some windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   experts had a credible explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   how Apple could actually not be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   Azure in its own data centers but simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   be using a CDN that it uses out here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/446">TS</a>]

00:07:31   next stop I could follow up from way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   back remember when we did a show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   we talked about things that are wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   with different companies in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   company was Pixar yeah we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   we talked about Google and Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/460">TS</a>]

00:07:45   Facebook and Pixar was the one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   said there's no way anything could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   wrong with it all right so my complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   about Pixar was that they were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/472">TS</a>]

00:07:53   taking enough risks in their creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   output and my evidence for that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   they had yet to have a movie that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   not good and it was kind of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   the idea was they were using engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   principles to ensure that they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   produced a bad movie but those same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   principles were preventing them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   ever making a movie that was as great as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   some of the greatest movies that Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   itself admires right so the sequel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/494">TS</a>]

00:08:18   cars cars to just opened and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   link in the show notes to the rotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21   tomato page for cars let me just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/501">TS</a>]

00:08:25   what is that now and the percentage on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   the Rotten Tomatoes page is currently at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30   35 percent I loaded this 15 minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/510">TS</a>]

00:08:34   and is at 36 so I was actually dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   and yesterday was at 38 and for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   that don't know 100% is the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   movie ever on Rotten Tomatoes Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   tomatoes aggregates reviews from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   multiple sites 35 is not good what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/523">TS</a>]

00:08:47   just descent to sort of set some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   parameters set a framework for this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52   does the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   starwars get on this one I gotta look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   some stuff up then yeah go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   so I want to see you know I want to said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   I want to set a framework if the what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   here it'd because this scale is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03   meaningless so 100 is a greatest movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   right but what do movies that we like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   fellow geeks so a new hope is 94% okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/548">TS</a>]

00:09:13   cars one is 74% okay what about like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/553">TS</a>]

00:09:17   toy story toy story 3 even so Toy Story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/557">TS</a>]

00:09:22   3 which is you know a sequel just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   Toy Story 2 in fact it's it's worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   because it's a 3 at 99% for toy story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   thread great movie cried a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/569">TS</a>]

00:09:33   so a lot of people in saying hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   know you you wanted Pixar to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   failure isn't this what you wanted well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   that's yeah you shouldn't be turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   over in your grave you're so happy no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   because I like half the time they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   joking but sometimes like they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   just go back and listen to things yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   the idea wasn't that fat failure is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/590">TS</a>]

00:09:55   goal therefore you should try to fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   like it be that was not the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   there's bad logical connections being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   made there the idea was that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01   not taking enough risks and the evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/601">TS</a>]

00:10:05   for that was the lack of failure by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   changing the evidence to have a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   does not prove that you are now taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   enough risks because it's nonsensical so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   if they first of all I haven't seen cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   to so I can't make any judgment about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   whether this is what I'm looking for or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/617">TS</a>]

00:10:18   not but I will speculate that if cars 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/618">TS</a>]

00:10:22   fails because it's a timid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/622">TS</a>]

00:10:26   run-of-the-mill sequel the or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/626">TS</a>]

00:10:30   or just simply was trying to do exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   the same thing as every other Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   movie but didn't do it as well then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   that's not what I was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   if Cars 2 is getting slammed in reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   because they really tried to Susan do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42   something daring and different and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/642">TS</a>]

00:10:43   failed then maybe they did do what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   looking for I haven't seen the movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   think my son is actually seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   movie right now as we speak so I'll ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   him for a review but I'm not sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52   much I'll get out of him about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   when I do see it I will chime in to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   which of those two scenarios is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   happening since it is a sequel and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   this is sequel to the movie with I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   the lowest rating on Rotten Tomatoes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   any Pixar movie out to 74 percent is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   the others are in the 90s and stuff I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/667">TS</a>]

00:11:11   leaning towards it being bad for boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   reasons in other words that it was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   were aiming for the same Pixar formula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   they always do and they just didn't hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   it for whatever reasons what did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   give on on this Rotten Tomatoes thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   that you're talking about what do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   give a few good men check that one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/684">TS</a>]

00:11:28   and then and then Shawshank Redemption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   you want to make a prediction for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   good men I will say it's in the low 70s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/692">TS</a>]

00:11:36   83 ok I'm starting maybe this site's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/696">TS</a>]

00:11:40   worth looking at what a Shawshank 89 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   okay that should be higher yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   seriously who's the people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   not liking the Shawshank Redemption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   every those refusing people with no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   hearts and no minds what used to be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   the top of the IMDB rankings for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   the best movie ever this it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   best movies yeah I mean again when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   aggregate stuff I'm not sure how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   just tells you because if they decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   pick a bunch of reviews from a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08   idiots they could drag down or raise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   score of anything but this is just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   of give you a rough estimate of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   how well reviewed is this movie people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   are wondering if I haven't seen run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   Tomatoes I know about it I just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   not in front of a keyboard Metacritic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   another side I just happened to go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   Rotten Tomatoes one because I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   someone mentioned that it was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   slammed you would think a site called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   Rotten Tomatoes that the higher number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   would be more rotten yeah yeah that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   name of the site like the height like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   how rotten is it oh it's a 100 on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   Rotten scale well it must be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   rotten so you think they would inverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   the numbers I think that would be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/762">TS</a>]

00:12:46   only confusing to people who think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   it and that doesn't include most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   people's all most people just go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50   site they see a bar the more filled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   gets 100% is better because on 2% is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   better in school so on and so forth now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   I understand why they're doing it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   way I just they should change the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   to fresh tomatoes well I'll send an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01   email so unlike you like you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/781">TS</a>]

00:13:05   expect the CEO of the company to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   their their name just because I send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/788">TS</a>]

00:13:13   them a Google search result so unfair to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   me about that on the other shows okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   the final bit of follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   I have is and this may be the last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   we ever mentioned this in the show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   all you toaster haters you've just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   one last little push to get through or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   skip over and then you probably won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   ever have to hear about toasters again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   probably so as we know you can go review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/814">TS</a>]

00:13:39   the past shows about my problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   toasters and then a Marco and Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   were nice enough to give me a toaster at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   WWDC and they shipped it to me and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   finally arrived and I've used it and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   here is my brief I will try to be brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   all-boy review very excited this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   the main topic for the show while this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   is just follow-up I will try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57   through it so first thing I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   start with is that despite everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   I'm going to say in this review I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   very grateful for this toast oh boy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   that doesn't sense not a good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   open the WWC was just was just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   amazing trip and you know and as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   I enjoyed the technical sessions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   everything was really just meeting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   people that was the best thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   that and Marco and Merlin's toaster gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   was just really the icing on the cake so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   I will always treasure that memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   even if it was the worst toaster in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   world I would still keep this toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   for sentimental reasons Allah thankfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   this is not the worst toaster in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   world in fact I think this toaster is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34   much better than my old toaster so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   different in every possible way than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   old toaster that I'm surprised the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   appliances didn't annihilate each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   when they were brought into the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/881">TS</a>]

00:14:41   room I think there was a physics joke I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/881">TS</a>]

00:14:45   think I'm breaking my own rules here all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   right scratch just scratch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   annihilation bar so the first test for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   the toaster was I throw a bagel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   because I had a fresh stock of imported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   bagels yes I only get my bagels from New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   York Massachusetts bagels are no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   I'm sorry ah and a cup one in half put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   it in there turn the thing to the bagel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   setting press the button and it put up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07   timer that had three minutes and 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   seconds so if you remember my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   toaster took five minutes and eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   seconds to do a piece of toast super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13   cold start this one was doing a bagel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   350 so already it's got a leg up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   after that I put something else in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   think it was another bagel or maybe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21   a piece of toast and then the timer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   only two minutes because this toaster is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   smart enough to know that the heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   carried over from the previous toasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   session will shorten the time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   next toasting session so other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   about it it's got the rackets inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35   five times thicker than the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   rack it's not just like a set of spindly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   wires totally together it's this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   heavy metal it's probably like an oven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   rack a miniature little oven rack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   this one has the quartz heating elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   instead of those steel things that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   there they look kind of clear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   thicker and and they start glowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/949">TS</a>]

00:15:52   orange way faster than the steel ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/952">TS</a>]

00:15:53   did as as described and predicted by our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56   toaster engineer who wrote erson I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   the toast test where you put four slices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/959">TS</a>]

00:16:00   of toast in there very even browning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/960">TS</a>]

00:16:01   nice even brown across all of them no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   hot spots in the middle of the sides or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   anything like that and a timer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   so that the toaster has a little screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   on the front of it but it shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   time you know that's when I push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   button I can see three minutes 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   seconds or whatever that timer is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   is the best feature of the toaster like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   the first thing I noticed as I do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   first thing my wife comments and on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   that the timer is great you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   when you look at it like home use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   LEDs or LCD whatever it is screen back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   that LCD screen on the toaster is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   frivolous and stupid and a waste of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   money and some gadget thing no it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   great being able to see how long your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   toast has to go because just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   moving spending our whole lives pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   down the little lever or turning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   dial you have no idea how long you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:42   you can look at the dial and see does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   look like it's in like a minute and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   half or 30 seconds left when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   ticking along or even the push down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47   thing you never knew so you're like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:48   I go out of the room for a second will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   it ding but you know timer tells you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   guesswork is exactly how long it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   to take so great great first experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:59   with the toaster doing its job no fuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:03   no muss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   but this toaster is not with that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07   false now again I'm going to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   some faults of this toaster but let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   keep it in context here this toaster is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   so much better than my old Doster that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   it's it's just in a different league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   entirely the fact that I can find faults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   in it doesn't really mean anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   because I can find faults in anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   but it's kind of like this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   toaster I've had that it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   criticizing because now I'm picking it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   because the previous toaster was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   total loss like it just didn't even do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   the basic job of toasting was a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   piece of crap this this is not and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   makes the parts where it falls down all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:41   the more glaring so the first one isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44   really a flaw with the toaster is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   mismatch with my needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:51   it's got one of those Pizza bumps in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   back you know where they make the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54   round cutout things you can stick a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   disc in there not it's not as big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   pronounced to some of the other ones yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   it is not a big pizza bump so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   it's not really a big deal but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   there and I actually didn't realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   was there because it is so small doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   stick out and the toaster is not a deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   anyway so it's not it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   but it does have a bump which I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   without if it was there so now the knobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   in the front there's like a dial a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   push-button thing with it or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   ever they are made of plastic made to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   look like metal the rest of the toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   is all stainless steel looking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   shiny metal or matte finish actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   these these knobs look like mill their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   silvery shiny plastic but they're made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   of plastic totally ruins the all-metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   stainless steel aesthetic of the toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   big mistake to do the plastic knobs g4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   they did that because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   concerned about heat conductivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   because everyone not same thing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   going to say I think they did for heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   conduction the handle because the handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   itself is a metal tube but the handle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   connected to the door with plastic and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   thought maybe they did that to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   heat from the door glass from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   conducting through to the metal handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   right which would make sense but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   entirely sure because I have pans with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:58   metal handles and they seem to not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   hot unless they're on a really long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   but anyway the dials I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   have that concern what's because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   area around the dials is really get hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   and they're only connected by a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   you know stick on the inside I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   assuming so I'm not sure how much heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   would be conducting through that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   second thing about the knobs is it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   only are they plastic but their flimsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   feeling they have lots of slop where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   move them and nothing is happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   they you know sort of twist on the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   axes that they shouldn't twist now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   is the thing that especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   high-end toasters like this or medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   and I don't know how high in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   toaster is but like it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   everything else about is solid quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   construction it performs great and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   you put these plastic knobs on it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   car makers know how important this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40   because what car makers even when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   make your the crappy car like Target or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   cell or Honda Civic or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   know that the things you touch on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   product are so important that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   to feel expensive and they invest lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   of time and energy into making the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   dial that the wiper stocks you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   headline that the headlight on/off thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00   feel expensive and expensive feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   means no slop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03   smooth glide no sort of scratching type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   of action as you know strong clicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   into positive position when you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   from one setting to the other and car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   makers spend the money on those switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   that you touch take it out of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   things like the trunk lids which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   make cheaper you know so they subtract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   money from them when the arguably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   important parts of the car to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21   things that you touch feel expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   because I know how much that matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   every day when you're using the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   that would have been a good move on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   toaster I don't know maybe take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   money out of some other aspect of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   toaster maybe use cheaper metal on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33   back or something or I don't know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   they could take it out but put it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   those dials because it's worthwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   because those are the things you touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   every single day and they do detract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   from the experience ah the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   like I didn't have to read the manual to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   do the interface which is you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   gold star right off the bat because if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   have to go to the manual for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   appliance I'm pissed off so I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   have to read the manual to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   how to use this appliance although I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   look at the manual to make sure I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   missed anything and I hadn't it's so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   would say it's fairly intuitive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   there's a little bit too much happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   on the screen I would like the screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   tell me information like the time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   don't need it I don't want have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   using the dial to manipulate things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   the screen it's a little bit feels a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   little bit like setting one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   cheap digital alarm clocks where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   press the hold down the alarm button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   you press this other button to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20   the hour then you press this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   button and now you're changing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   minutes and it's just amodal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   you know what I mean like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   you get away with just having one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27   Dobbs and Niles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   Dobbs and miles yeah that would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   title the show knobs and dials uh and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:34   I could just manipulate the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   controls and completely know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   what I'm doing without ever having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   look at the screen the screen should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   giving feedback to me but it should only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   be optional it shouldn't be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:42   I'm required to look at to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43   settings so it's um I can play by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   interface and the final thing is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   know if you've noticed it may just be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   model or my particular instance of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   model or it may be that this changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   over time as the toaster kind of breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   in is that if you bring the door all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   way down and just you know press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   handle to the counter in front of you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   whatever so it's down as far as can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   and then take your finger off gently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   door will slowly close which is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05   because if you open the toaster up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   reach your hand in there to pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   something and don't hold the door down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   with your other hand the or will lift up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   and burn the bottom of your wrist I I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   never noticed that that doesn't doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   seem too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   that for me so I mean obviously some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   spring is pulling the door closed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   that spring is going to weaken over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   so maybe this is just something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   happens with a new toaster maybe mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24   has a particularly strong spring or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   maybe you just haven't noticed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:26   should try after the show to go to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   toaster open the door all the way hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   it all the way down to the counterweight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   you know debounce it in everything wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   for it to settle and take your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   off of it and see if it slowly closes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   itself both my wife and I noticed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   we haven't burned ourselves so we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   noticed that if we hadn't been holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   on the door it would have burned us down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   with them I'm pretty sure the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   doesn't do that anymore if it ever if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:49   ever did yeah it may be one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   things that just breaks it maybe you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   got a super spring in there it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   super it's it's not like it slams cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   it's slowly like it sneaks up on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   that's going to spring yourself if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   modify this modify I was thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   like if I did want to modify this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   I have to open you know could I get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:04   there and find that spring uh um it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   so those are my complaints about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08   toaster but they are all minor in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   basic capacities as a toaster it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   performs admirably and it looks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   great too even with the plastic knobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   that you know don't look like the metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   the whole toaster just looks so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   better than my old horrible thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   only trouble I have with installation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25   that I had to buy one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   flush-mounted plug things because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   plug for the toaster is right behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   toaster and the plug for this toaster is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   a big honking three prong thing but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   hole for your finger to go in and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   going to stick straight into the wall it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   bumps into the back of the toe so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   did you get there for this thanks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   can buy like a it's the three-pronged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   plug but it's very low profile it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   flat to the wall it only extends about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:47   centimeter out and the the wire goes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   to the side it's like a little pigtail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   and at the end of that little five six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   inch pigtail is the regular three prong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   plug that I plug with hoster plug into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   okay so the end of the toaster saga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:02   social saga hands with me getting better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   toast faster with more feedback on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   screen now using the Rotten Tomatoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   scale how would you rate this toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   what how rotten or not or fresh is it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14   I'm going to give my old toaster 20 ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   and I'm gonna give this one like an 87 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:21   that's almost as good as Shawshank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   Redemption if it were toaster rotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   tomatoes is wrong Josh I'm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   attempting Shrek redemption is like a 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:31   all right I have two small things before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:35   we go to our main topic these are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   follow up they're just many topics you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   do undo the first sponsor now get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   out of the way sure go for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   and that's I shouldn't say get it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   the way I mean that's not I feel because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   they pay the bills we're appreciative of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   them but it's it's omni group one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   john Syracuse's favorite app makers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:54   make productivity applications they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   it just for Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and for the iPhone and the iPad nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   else this is their one area focus which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   is something that John can respect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   do agree do you respect them more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   because they just focus on the Mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:11   iOS stuff I don't care where they focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   I only care how good their apps are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   their apps are really good well they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   known they're known for that for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   really good apps and what what's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   gold standard customer support they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   really have awesome support where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   deal with real human beings and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   they're all geeks every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   those people over there is I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   they make John look normal that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:33   geeky they are but they really care they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   sweat the details and and you can take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   look at one of my favorite omni group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   apps it's OmniFocus it's designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   Kalp you capture your thoughts allow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   to store manage and process them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   actionable to-do items so if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   fan of getting things done system or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   you just have your own system it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51   matter and you can you can sync this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   stuff it'll work over a local network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   you can currently use MobileMe or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   just a standard web dev server that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   are your own company or workgroup hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   they're they're just awesome and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   available it's available today you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   get on the focus of course for the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   like you've always been able to but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   that long ago they came out with it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   the iPhone and the iPad you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   omni group.com to check this out or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   go to the iTunes or the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   and search for OmniFocus one word we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:22   like to say thanks very much to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   guys for making this show possible all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   right two topics you said too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   topics than the main topic so three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   topics the first mini topic I finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   saw Mac Defender in the wild do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   the Mac defender Mac malware thing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   I guess a couple weeks ago yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   thing that if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   anybody who still doesn't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   this it's a little a little thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   loads in a webpage it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   dialog box it tells you you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   install something it makes you install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   it if you're you know if you're prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   to enter your your administrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   password but then they came out with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   that didn't require administrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   password which one did you see well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   I've never I've never followed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   story I'd heard your podcast about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   but never actually like clicked on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   knee of the links of mine yours reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   to read about it because I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   pay attention to Mac malware stories it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   just gave me worked up over nothing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13   it's if it's a legitimate issue I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   find out about it from like friends or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   more trusted sources than just these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   random sensational things about Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   Defender or stories from virus companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   so so again I had never didn't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   to expect from this but I ended up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   think it was a Google image thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:29   something that seems it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   where they all come from and I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   seeing this thing pop onto the screen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   look like this little dialog box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   was telling me I don't know what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   telling me some something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   installing something rather than I sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   this must be Mac Defender because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   were saying it brings up a fake dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   box and usually the virus to fake dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:44   boxes or mental like windows and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   obviously you can write this one really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:47   looks like a Mac window now well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   what that's what I had heard about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   from the little summaries I'd see him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   knew treat it but this dialog box well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   so that saga box comes up in the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   browser and then right in front of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   sort of off to the side comes up the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   os10 dialog box saying this file will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   damage your computer and it has the move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   to the trash button because I reckon you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   know since had the OS update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   detects this so my operating system the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10   detected this was harmful and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   bringing up the putting trash button so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   I could see a real Mac os10 dialog box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   and the fake one right next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   other mmm and I don't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   they couldn't just copy and paste the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   graphics from a real Mac os10 dialog box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   into the fake one yeah the fake dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   box look awful the gray was the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   colour the cancel button wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   like rounded like it's not rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   science take a screenshot of a real Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   os10 dialog they're not even trying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   the worst virus ever the proportions off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   you know let's go to interface builder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   layout a dialog according to the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41   the Aqua conventions it will give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   little guidelines to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   there's your fake dialog box take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   screenshot just make it a big gif I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   don't care but or gif making a big jpeg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   or whatever a ping it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   that hard to make a fake dialog box this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   is the worst showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   of any macca malware I've ever seen I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   not going to say oh I can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   people fall this is obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   everyone knows every single pixel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   what Mac os10 looks like it would kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05   it's convincing enough for other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   but what's the what's the point in not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   taking the three seconds to screenshot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   real dialog box and put in your own text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   like it's not that much extra effort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   it seems like you'd get you'd increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   your chances of getting more victims I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   think that but I think the people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23   whom this is a concern the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   will see this and say wow yeah I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   some virus here and believe the dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32   box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   those people couldn't tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   difference between the real one and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   fake one even if they were next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38   other right yeah no I believe that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41   people will be convinced by this but why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   like it seems harder to me to make a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   looking fake dialog than to make a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   looking fake dialog you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   they had to custom draw or find sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   for these widgets and make it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   just seems stupid so the more the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   is virus makers are dumb and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   dumb virus and my computer threw it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   the trash for me all right next minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:06   that was a mini topic yeah I got just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   little ones here this is an ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:12   peeve with not with Twitter itself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   with services that are related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   Twitter and this is my grumpy old bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   and kids these days why do they do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   stuff so every time I want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   somewhere to do something like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   some game that everyone was playing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   I go to the site all sign up for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   game try it out and says sign in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   your Twitter username because apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   uses Twitter in some capacity and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   go a little sign-on thing and does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   OAuth thing this is a website does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   OAuth thing and it shows you low dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   and says we're sending you to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   for authorization which what it brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   up the little page it says application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   foo wants to do the following read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   Twitter client timeline update your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   Twitter timeline and you know respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   direct measures or whatever I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   reading as soon as it says update your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   Twitter timeline why why in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   would I ever let anyone other than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   tweet as me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   this seems to be accepted by tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   people because this is not the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05   service I've seen this for I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   going on a year now or however long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   they've supported this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   time I see one of the pages I'm like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   you can't tweet as me now if that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   phrasing was changed to say this service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   would like to send email as you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   you say oh sure yeah you can send emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   mean I know email has no authentication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   there's no way to prove this your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23   whatever is just the principle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   matter would you let any program from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   website pretend that it's you through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   any communication medium please let this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   program make telephone calls as you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   know and and of course this Twitter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   no good metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   there's no way to distinguish a tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   you know from the perspective of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   reading your timeline in a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   Twitter client they can't tell whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   this was you tweeting some stupid shill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   for some company or a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   automatically dude why in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   would I have never said yes to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   those things and I never will why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   I let someone tweeted me and why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   people that Applications tweet as them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   it just seems insane to me I'm sure no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   one would ever let any website email has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   them if they said we'd like to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   email pertaining to bu and yeah we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   email your friends and say hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   check out this website or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   then your friends will say did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   me some spam about this site thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   whatever and then you say yeah I let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   that site send email for me as that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   would never happen in a million years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   but somehow I was okay with Twitter have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   you ever said yes to one of those dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   box I never have no and then the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   that it could do that always made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   kind of nervous I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   someone in the chat room says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   people reading your timeline on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   random Twitter clients can tell that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   was a web site doing it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   clients basically the user-agent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39   metadata will say that it was tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   from web site XYZ I don't know many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   Twitter clients that show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   information prominently I guess the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   site does the web site does if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   mouthing like texting you know small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   text underneath it but for people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   desktop clients and stuff they don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   that and even though it's right in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   face on every single tweet on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   website you know from via Twitter Africa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   wire whatever your application is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   don't read that it's total invisibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:03   you know it are the ones that do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   I'll give you an example koala [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   austin-based company by the way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:11   if you allow the Gowalla app like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   say you check in somewhere and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   it configured to tweet it for you which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   you can toggle that on or off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   example you go and check in somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   and you say what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   it could say like I'm here doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   and then they'll have a link and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   you're just using that client to tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   it out it's not it's not really doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   independently for you you're activating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   it you're causing that to happen same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38   thing with Instagram which you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   don't you probably don't have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:41   you don't have an iPhone but the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   thing with Instagram if you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   picture and you want to share it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46   choose to tweet it or push it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   Flickr or whatever and on its own in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   chatroom point that out to that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   what they're what in theory what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   saying is oh this is just so on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   website or through our service or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   through our application you can send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   tweet but that's not how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   authentication wise they can send tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   as you whenever the hell they want yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   they could and that's that's it happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   all the time unlike your there playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   some iPhone game and then you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   your Twitter and you see this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   tweeted when I got a high score when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   picked up a powerup or whatever now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   look like a tool on Twitter right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   implication though is that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   services that I use to do it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   really named the only two that I do use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   to do it which is Instagram and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   guala those you're you're in control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:27   that and yeah I mean I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   they could they could do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   dependently or autonomously but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   concept is that they won't and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   did I think people would get pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   upset but there are apps and services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   that will do it like you said like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   you know I got a free man in this game I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   was playing in it did now it's tweeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   about it or I discovered this a treasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   or whatever you know you're the gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   whatever happens in a game you're and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   you're supposed to just you're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   to trust the company's like well if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   don't like it that you know don't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   permission to companies that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   trust and you can revoke the permission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2099">TS</a>]

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00:35:02   magic of their other authentication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2102">TS</a>]

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00:35:06   now who knows what will happen down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   road when they need to go for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   round of funding or figure out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   figure out they need to find a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2111">TS</a>]

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00:35:17   no one tweets as me but me and it annoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   me that I can't participate in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   the hot new game feature or whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   because they insist on having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:25   permission it would be nice of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   websites said if you don't want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   the features where we tweet as you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   where you proxy tweet through our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   service or whatever then you can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   join our application program or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   just don't give that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   mission but they never offer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:38   because it seems that people don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   Facebook has trained everybody to assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2140">TS</a>]

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00:35:46   other companies write things as if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   were coming from you on your Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2148">TS</a>]

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00:35:50   probably wouldn't like but I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   annoys me so that was my second mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   topic now I don't I don't know what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:59   big topic is for today so I can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02   only speculate that it's gonna be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   grills is it about clearly I heard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:08   heard the grill stuff going on there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   hate to disappoint you but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2170">TS</a>]

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00:36:17   kind of guy it do you suppose that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   is the cause of the other that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   had the right girl you might be I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   I've almost done the grilling thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   because I know I know where that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   it's kind of like doing the camera thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30   like it I know where the camera path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   leads like I would like 5d mark ii and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:35   bunch of lenses and all but just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   just saying no I stick with my crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   middle road cameras that I have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   I can't I can't do that so with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   grilling thing many times I've almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   bought like a quote unquote real grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   and a chimney starter and the whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   yards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2207">TS</a>]

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00:36:50   the grilling topic as a mini topic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   then I have a second mini topic which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:57   may in fact turn out to be your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   topic but I here's how much time do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   have today guess I got a long way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   topic unlimited unlimited time I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   like we should lay our vengeance down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   upon those who who complain that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:11   show is too long and go as long as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   feel like today but here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   these are very short topics the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2235">TS</a>]

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00:37:19   co-host of build and analyze another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   show on 5x5 TV that you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2242">TS</a>]

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00:37:27   just got a grill now that he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   homeowner and living in Brooklyn he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:32   needs to needed to get a grill so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   purchased a grill he didn't ask what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   kind of grill in you know very much this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   is just the way that he is he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2260">TS</a>]

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00:37:49   typical fashion he made it the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50   choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51   didn't need to ask you got a weber gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:54   grill so we're gonna be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   that but I wanted to know it so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   away we I can go into this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   with him knowing that your ought grills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   are off your radar you don't even want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   to talk about them you don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   opinion even I've got opinions but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:08   I don't have experience the grill I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   is just you know run-of-the-mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2290">TS</a>]

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00:38:16   since I own it of course have specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   complaints about my grill but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   don't care or that how often do you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   your grill well the thing I care why use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   it a lot during the summer as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   you know the the weather gets warm we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   grill every week at least well if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   weather is nice once or twice a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   sometimes more just because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   convenient and fast it's good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   make family dinners after work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   doesn't take that long to grill things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   most of the time my grill not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   barbecuing I would say year-round John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   grill at a minimum once a day sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:48   more occasionally there'll be a day go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   by where we don't grow but we grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   almost everything you're living in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   Sun Belt down there so course away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   that so the main complaint I have about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   my grill are and about all grills I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   ever owned is durability and it's simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:01   because the ash that's produced from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   cooking food if you don't clean it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   really well it mixes with water and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   believe it becomes a basic someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   the chat room can correct me see their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   acidity the way it eats away at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   metal of your grill so you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   really good about cleaning your grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   and not letting any moisture get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18   otherwise the metal just turns to dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   and rust pretty quickly is it humid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   right where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24   yes very humid and I've been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   keep this grill I've had it for years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   five years six years maybe you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   maybe seven years long time I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   this grill and it's hanging in there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   worst part of that is that when it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   time to get replacement parts like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   want to replace the little tube to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   gas comes out of a river because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39   rotting it's so hard to find them or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   little heat shield things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   juices fall down on - you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   replacement parts you can find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   online but they're like ninety bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   pair so 180 bucks you know I spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   hundred eighty bucks to repair my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   grill I'll just buy a new one for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   hundred or whatever so that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   disappointing but it's that it's they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   expensive and it's hard to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59   replacement parts and I think if I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   did buy a super-expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   like a good grill for eight hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   dollars whatever they cost or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   I'm afraid that it would not last any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   longer than the other kind of grill and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   so I just think with the credit grill I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   have and try to keep it up on his two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   legs okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14   well that this will be a preface then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   because I'm anticipating the Marco want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   to talk about the girl in the next show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   so now we know where you stand and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   second the second thing I wanted to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   about is just to follow up kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   kind of a note about the MobileMe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   iCloud transition was that your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   topic it was not okay so here's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34   news Apple and all I'll add this link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2434">TS</a>]

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00:40:38   with a little announcement I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   just came out today at least I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   seen it before today and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44   looking for this kind of thing but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   a frequently asked questions about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   MobileMe transition and iCloud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   they've got a neat little checklist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51   showing you which of the MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   services will be available in iCloud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   they list mail check contacts check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   calendar check bookmarks check Find My [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   iPhone check back to my Mac check web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   publishing and they just have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   grade - Gallery - and I disk - but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:11   they have another little paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2471">TS</a>]

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00:41:16   they have a pair in addition the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   following new services will be available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2477">TS</a>]

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00:41:22   stream documents in the cloud automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   downloads and purchase history for apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   and books backup and restore and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:30   they have a they get to the FAQ part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   this where they say oh can I keep my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   mobile me address they say yes will I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   able to access iCloud services on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   web yes what happens to the I websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2499">TS</a>]

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00:41:43   continue through June 30th and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47   basically you know even after you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   to iCloud you can do some things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   have a whole article on it what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   to pictures you can keep using it - June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   30th the blah blah blah but here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   interesting part this is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   interesting part basically they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   keeping most of the services around up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   until or in some cases even after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   switch just so that you can get to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   stuff but here's the interesting part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   and this is the one that's getting all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   the attention on Twitter this is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   that everybody's up in arms about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   happens to the other sync services I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   for my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   and here's the answer sinking of Mack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   Dashboard widgets keychains dock items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:25   and System Preferences will not be part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28   of iCloud but will continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   available for your use till you move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   iCloud after you move to iCloud or after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   June 30th 2012 whichever comes first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   those sync services will no longer be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   available yeah I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:44   shocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   no keep up because he changed that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   what people are very upset about I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   sure they're upset about it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   could have seen it coming because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   things you sync services which is an API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   built on top of the MobileMe syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   thing and they are trashing MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58   syncing things because it's because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   bad basically that's you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:01   though it works fine i sync my keychains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   and all that stuff too even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   seems to work fine that hole that model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   of syncing things where sync services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   does its little thing and if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   conflicts yet presented with that dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   and you pick good unit that's all out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   there not preserving that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   want that syncing experience they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   want anyone to ever see that sync dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   box that asked you to resolve conflicts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   it's just that whole night the mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   and the model of that syncing is out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   window so the only way they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   possibly preserve this features is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   they had rewritten every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   the applications that uses them in Lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33   to use some new equivalent now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   didn't even announce really a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   equivalent to those things in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   iCloud announcement and I think I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   tell you that without shocking anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   that all those applications are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   massively rewritten try cloud in in Lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   so and they did they do very clearly say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:54   web access to iCloud mail contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   calendar and find my iPhone will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   available at icloud.com this fall right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   yeah so the web services there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:06   equivalents those because that's doable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:07   but they can't give you a quilt install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   that kind of sync service stuff until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   they come up with a new set of API s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   that runs on new servers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   rewrite those applications to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   new API on the new servers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   haven't they simply haven't done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   yet so it doesn't mean they will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   be equivalents these features doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   mean I'm completely given up on syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   they could have an equivalent feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   that instead of syncing individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29   applications there'll be some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   mechanism like an entire mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   directory or whatever but this is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   of the you know apples going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   transitions now the Final Cut Pro 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   things a transition period we're leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   big topic today and starting a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   right and and well this is this a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45   similar scenario when you start the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   thing it's a period of time where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   new thing kind of sucks and it takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   while to transition to it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   happening with iCloud we don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   my cloud is going to be better but we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   know that it's a pretty clean break from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   the old thing and there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   painful period in the middle where stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   doesn't work yeah it's it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   shame but I wasn't shocked by it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   was happy to see that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:05   apparently or do apparently have the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   apps ready or at least I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   gonna happen ready in time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   launch icloud.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   and I suspect those web apps will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   and feel a lot like the meek on web apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   do I don't know how much of that effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   they will reuse presumably some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   but it's nice that they'll have them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   there on launch fact they don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   sink service to stuff out an ami I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   already back with your Jimbo tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27   because your Jimbo uses sink services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   and I use it with that and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   hard deadline you know when when June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   30th or whatever comes along you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   not going to work anymore with sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   services so those servers will be gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   I'm assuming so bare-bones sets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   scrambled updated or I just have to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   off syncing start using Dropbox like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   do or something like that it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   run for a rough time are we going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   talk about your the Dropbox security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   thing ah that's not your main topic what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2751">TS</a>]

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00:46:09   embroiled in lately and it's vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:14   tech related cuz I write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2774">TS</a>]

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00:47:19   has inline show notes it has saved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2839">TS</a>]

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00:47:27   even added a new feature now that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   don't know if I'm supposed to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   this but there's a Dan Benjamin feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33   that's available I'm not making this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2853">TS</a>]

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00:47:37   allows you to prevent the use of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:41   times speed should you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   accidentally want to do that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44   know if he's going to have this default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   it to on but shame on you if you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   to this thing at double speed and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2869">TS</a>]

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00:47:53   can disable that should you lest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   want make the mistake of trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2876">TS</a>]

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00:48:25   handle a lot of shows I listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   double speed no who can who would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2906">TS</a>]

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00:48:30   you're listening to a show with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   talks really slowly then double speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   can work because it just makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   sound like a New Yorker but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:39   listening to someone who already speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   quickly and mumbles the words like I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   you're gonna miss half I say if you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45   to double speed it but you but see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2925">TS</a>]

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00:49:01   fast-forward and try to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02   subtitles I mean that you wouldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   anything out of it it's like reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:05   cliff notes instead of a great novel why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   would you do that you're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   reading not on them why don't you send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   typewritten letter to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   suggesting a an allowable listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   speed range sort of like you can go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   1.0 to 1.77 something like that I'm well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   as long as my typewriter - typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   surrender said the creator said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   okay to have a range so if I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   show this at this listen do it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   speed okay if I if my typewriter could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   type in feature I would do it yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   got a magic typewriter now it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   the computer well looking at it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   right wig topic writing your writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:40   process you are a writer people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   know this you have a degree in social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:46   psychology is that your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49   no so this there was a presentation at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   South by Southwest 2011 featuring Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:56   coudl Michael lop and our friend John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   Gruber of the talk show and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01   presentation was called twelve slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   three writers although I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03   changed the twelve to fifteen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   something and it was the same set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   slides each slide had a just a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   word or phrase on it and then each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   the three presenters went through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   same slide deck and used that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   jumping-off point to talk about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   write and so I'm going to do exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:22   same thing a hundred percent rip off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   their thing and I actually got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24   permission from John Gruber about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   he gave permission on behalf of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   others this is a case where I did see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   the presentation that I'm about to rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   off and I'm like good John I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:36   John's uh was a web stock yes the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   stock thing which I saw after going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   podcast to cover much of the same ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   this for so this is all fully approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:46   but it is an interesting way to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   about writing and then you can compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:51   and contrast what all four of us say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   you would like to go back to the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:54   portion this is not an audio visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   medium so you don't see the slides by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   each slide was just really black with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   white text with a word or a phrase on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   and I will read the word or the phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02   that comes in front of it only preface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:05   this by saying I am NOT despite your a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   little intro there a trained writer my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   degree is in engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   did you guess that listeners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   computer engineering specifically which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   is basically just electoral engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   with some CS courses but there is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:20   lot of literature or writing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:24   curriculum and you have a minor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   social psychology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   I have no minor it's just the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   engineering under present and I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   going to just explain how how I work now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   maybe you can extract some tips tips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   tricks Merlin Mann style from this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   will you'll be able to apply to your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   life your own writing but maybe not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   not holding this up as this is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   you should write I'm just going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   this is how I work and that was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   much the premise of the presentation as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   well each person described how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   worked not prescribing to everybody this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   is how you should write and this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   writing is done so that first slide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   little section there the first slide set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   forward and we just did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   that was my forward talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   source here and where I'm coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   the next slide is giving yourself an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   assignment so this is sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:12   Stephen King where do you get your ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   kind of question because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   especially for me it was doing this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   freelancer this is the question what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   do you decide what you're going to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23   about because you don't have to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   about anything it's not your job to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   anything I'm not a reporter anything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   for me what I usually want to have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   some sort of angle that that's fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:38   that I haven't read somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39   already because I don't have I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   have a thing that I have to do I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   compelled to cover any particular news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   story or talk about any particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   simply because it's not my job so I only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   want to talk about something I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   have something to add I'm adding a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   voice and I'm not just like an echo of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57   everything else that's out there this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   was a lot different years and years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   when they were very few people writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   about the same things that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:04   interested in now there are tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   people doing it and they're doing it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   a living and they're doing a better job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09   than I do so that's part of why I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   write as much in fact there was a reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   thread asking questions about our stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   nigga I should put them the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   where somebody asked why I didn't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   as much anymore and I had a big answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   that I put in there that I'll link to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:24   so it basically depends on me not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   read the issues that are the angle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:29   I'm about to write about and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32   doesn't mean that my angle is original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   it just means that I haven't read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   it and this all depends on who I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   reading so it's much safer for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   stick the topics that I actually read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   lot about because of it's like a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   topic chances are good that I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   every Mac side of note in my news feeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   or whatever and I'm on top of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   people are saying but if I decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   write about some completely unrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   topic there's a much greater danger that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   I'm going to say something that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   is original but this ridiculous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   trite and it's been said a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   times before and I'm gonna you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   going to say anything new and I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   to say something is incorrect much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   greater chance of that you see the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   same thing happening on this podcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   fact every time we talk about topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   that I'm not an expert in I end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   saying something stupid or incorrect ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   doesn't stop me from doing it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   know that's what happens of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   difference on the podcast is I'm much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   more willing to just be us about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   that I don't know about as long as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   preface it was saying that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   talking out of my butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:26   I don't mind it too much but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27   write stuff down it seems more permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   to me and I want to get it right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:32   will try not to write about topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   I don't know too much about I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   why that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   I guess recorded audio is just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   permanent as written word it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   it's harder to search for you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   if you can google for something I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   years ago and you'll find a hit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   it's on a website or in our Korg but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   you try to google for something I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   in a podcast you're not going to find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   but maybe this is a foolish choice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   my grandkids will have complete access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:54   to technology it transcribes audio feeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   from the past and they will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   full-text search of everything ever set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:00   on any podcast and then then I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   screwed it's risk I'm only thick I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:07   next slide without a net how since I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:13   doing this is a freelancer I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   by myself I'm not like in a newsroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   virtual or otherwise I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   colleagues who I can bounce story ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   off of who are also writing day in day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   out it's usually me after the kids go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   bed thinking of something and writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   before I go to bed it's not and at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   point everyone else is off doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   own things for the night even people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   online are to get in touch with now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:38   editor's in some cases if I'm not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   running for my personal blog or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   something as his editors @rz Macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   but the editors their job is to uphold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   standards and you know be editar with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49   that is not their job to know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   detail of whatever it is that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52   writing about so if I write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   that's wrong they don't know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   detail of every topic in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   they're not going to catch that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   it's on me not to screw up again I gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   back to trying to write about topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   that I know something about so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   screw up too badly next slide is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:07   starting now for me the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:12   sentences are always the hardest part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   like I'll sit there I'll do that cliche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   thing where you sit there staring at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   screen with the blinking cursor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   there's nothing on the page and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   I'll just sit there for what seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   a ridiculous amount of time and what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   doing during that time is I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   sentences in my head and discarding them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   writing them and discarding them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   and just cannot find a way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   no matter what I'm gonna write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   it's just always hard to get that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   thing off it's particularly bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   really big review things like the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   os10 review because where do you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   begin where do you even begin on a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:45   that big you know you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   going to talk about you're gonna talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   about X Y & Z it's just this big giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49   thing but how do you how do you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   your way in there how do you even start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   and I don't like to start not at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   beginning I don't like to start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   section 2 or section 3 I got to start at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   the beginning because I have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   where I just have to know where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   going so it takes a long long time - I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   think member when I started on Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   review which was months ago I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   spent like 3 hours doing like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   paragraphs there's like two paragraphs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   an hour for that for the first six power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   because just killing me I just could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   find my way in now sometimes I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17   first sentence in mind like I'll I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   an idea in my head like yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   that's the intro sentence I've got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   that's my inspiration for the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   know what the first sentence is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   be okay and then I kind of sit down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   write it and it turns out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   sentence that was in my head is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   something I might say but not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   you can actually write like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   incorrect grammar there are things left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   out of it it's just not not like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   not a whole pulley form phrase in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   head they can you know your emotion can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   fill in the blanks or you have an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   of what you want to get at but when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   comes time to write it you realize it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   just not there and that happens very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   very often so when I think ever for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:50   sentence I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51   or even if it's actually a sentence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   can go out on the page I will write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   and then reject it once I see it written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   and this is this is a specific case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   general malady of not speaking like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:02   I definitely don't speak like I write I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   speak very poorly I tried to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   better than that because when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   writing you have a chance to look at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   it is go back and fix it and try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:10   again try it again speaking it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   comes out the way it comes out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   people who do speak in a way that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   were to put down verbatim what they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   on go piece of paper that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   good writing they are much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   writers than I am it's probably one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   the secrets to being a good writer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   you ever go to like hear read are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   great writer speak they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   pretty good speakers too they speak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   complete form sentences that make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:35   not a lot of thumbs and stutters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   babbles and stuff like that but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   get away with onna on a podcast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   can't get away with in print that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   it was one of my attractions to print is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   that that's the place where I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:45   perfect what I want to say I can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:49   write it down and then look at it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   and revise and revise and revise until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   it tilts polish the way I wanted to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   whereas once I say something is just out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   there and it's too late for me to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   it back in and the more I try to correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   it speaking on a podcast or whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   worse it gets so writing isn't much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   nicer in that regard next slide is do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   you feel a draft which is a bad pun for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   in trying to get us talk about drafts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   guess my philosophy on writing drafts is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:17   that I try to get it right on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   try I don't do that thing where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:22   plow ahead and just just get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25   just whatever you're writing then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   what writers will tell you to do and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   probably is the right thing to do to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   obsess over it and just just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   something written and then go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:33   revise I have trouble doing that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   this is a very bad choice because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   makes me write very very very slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   again the six paragraphs and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41   three hours for the introduction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   Mac os10 article it's because I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   just couldn't move on until I had gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   something out in the previous paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   or gotten it right this is that like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54   nice tucked in in that way you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:55   getting stuck not stuck it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58   like I've said what I want to say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:59   I've said it poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   I've said it poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   so I've said how else can I say that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   it's going to rephrase that in a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:02   point you find out you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   rephrase one sentence you're never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:05   to find the right way to say it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   the previous sentence that leads into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07   is crappy so then you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   sentences and you realize actually this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   whole paragraph is coming in at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   wrong angle that's why these sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   are awkwardly formed and you know I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   I should just be doing is just plowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   head that's not how I work I I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   be right I want it I want to get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   the thing that I'm writing from start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23   believing that I wrote it as bit as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:28   as I possibly can now this is never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   ever ever actually true but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   believe that it is I don't want to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   a sentence behind that I know is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   written as well as I can write it or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   least not I don't think it's not written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   as well as I can write it so there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:44   old saying in programming that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   don't make your code as clever as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   possible because debugging is harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   than programming so you are by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   definition creating code that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53   smart enough to debug have you heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54   that one yes yes it's a problem for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   many of us I think that that rule is BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   by the way and if we do a a programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01   show I'll talk about why I should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   what it is but it is a common saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   well the thing that it reminds me I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   been writing is that most great writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   are better edges than they are writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   it's not really the equivalent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   previous thing but it reminded me of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   so anyway I do a lot of editing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   that's also true of me not that I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   great writer but I'm much better editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   than I am i right writing is just hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   and painful but when I go back and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   at what I've written I can tell when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:27   it's wrong and usually I know why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:31   wrong the hard part comes and going so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   you I can tell this as bad I know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   it's bad the hard part comes okay how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   you fix it and that's the hard part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   that's what makes you a great writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   makes me not a great writer is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   can't you know I know it's wrong and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   kills me but I can't quite figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   how to fix it and that goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   whole Holden just scrap this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   sentence and scrap the sentence before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:50   let me try writing it again just iterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   and iterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:52   but editing is hugely important it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   also it takes a real long time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   if you've written 10 20 30 thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   words editing that amount it just takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   a long time and it goes faster editing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   find goes much faster than writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:03   because they don't get stuck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:04   editing without adding I find the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   parts I fix them read find bad fix I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   always doing something I'm not stuck but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   editing definitely is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   and my opinion much more important than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   writing and when I'm editing and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   I'm running to I pick my words very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:20   and I've soften thought that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:24   obsession with getting the right word is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25   of dubious value because seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   that most readers don't like extract the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   full meaning of my word choice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   mostly because they don't know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   words that are rejected and why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   rejected them so let us say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   the 20 words that I could have used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   or synonym for the word he picked there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   or I get the gist of what he's saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   like they read but thinking what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:43   want to hear now what's actually written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   please again they don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   didn't use those other words and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49   what does other words were that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50   rejected and I'm particularly concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   with accuracy so I'll give you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:56   example from something I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:57   recently okay so say I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   sequel Lite which is a standalone single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:04   file database thing open source thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   has been around for years I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   about sequel Lite in Mac OS 10 and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:09   know that iPhoto uses sequel Lite as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   you go into your iPhoto library you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   see this little sequel ID database you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:14   can connect to it with your sequel Lite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15   client and that's where all your mail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   stored locally it may I don't see quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   - yeah look don't they do an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   messages and they also have a sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   Lite database it's all there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   how you ever seen that little tip where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   you can vacuum the sequel Lite database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31   to improve mail performance that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   thing I'm not sure what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   searching it might just be the indexes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   that they're just saving and I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   Apple Mail but it doesn't doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   surprise me it's not used or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40   Apple is been using sequel Lite for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:41   lot of ganya and I also know the sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   Lite is one of the backends for core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   data core data has a couple different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   backends that you can choose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48   sugilite is like the good one like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   one you want for your big data fast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:53   know instead of the villa backends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:54   like a binary plist in an XML human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   readable plist for debugging stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   that Sun someone in the in the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:03   is trying to deal with it I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   sequel I wrong I believe I'm saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   correctly but some there is some debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09   about that there are rules there rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   of how to pronounce these digits so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   you go to the website it will tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   one way and I think the creator of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   original author had might have said it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   different way this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   things where like for example there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   there's ones that are clear like MySQL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   it's not my sequel it's mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   my SQL that's very well known and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   established it's also PostgreSQL my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:33   understanding and however sequel light I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   think you're okay with that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   you're okay with that no I think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:41   go to the website it will say to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   SQLite I'm not doing like likes yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45   that sounds awkward it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46   gift Jeff I don't really care what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   creator of the gif format says I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   say it the way I want to say it so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   this case I am intentionally bucking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   trend of how they want you to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   thing I want to say sequel light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   that's what I'm going to say I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3898">TS</a>]

01:04:59   say my sequel but that's what these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   people get for for picking names that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   have multiple pronunciations because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   they remember when they used to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:07   HTML hot metal there were people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   were pronouncing it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   dear nobody there was a GUI max yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   people people took it from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   would speak of it as hot metal liked I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   never heard a real person say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   weren't see I guess you weren't working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:21   on the web back then I was but like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   with people who said that well you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   in a metropolitan hot metal for for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:29   OS 8 or 9 or whatever but I had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   called hot metal well they these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   probably the same people who for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   the Internet is Google and they type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   you know Apple comm into the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:40   search box to go to Apple duck yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:43   with these open-source things especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44   they spread they gained popularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   without input from the creator usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   just like organically so if everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   just starts saying my sequel the creator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   of MySQL has little control over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   and then you just kind of try to pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   back by putting up a thing on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   website that says how to pronounce it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   anyway I'm saying sequel light you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   to deal with it but let me go back to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:02   point here which was that so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:05   back-end for core data and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   used by iPhoto now I can confirm this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   going to my iPhoto library seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   sequel like Davis file connecting it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   the sequel like three command line thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   and running some queries yep that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:15   sequel ID database like it sure looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   like one and I know coordinated uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   sequel light because I've seen a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19   WDC sessions where they tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   this is one of the backends and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:22   highest performance back-end and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23   and so forth but I would be very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26   careful not to write something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   implies that iPhoto uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   users or doesn't use core data because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   don't know that well someone the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   room can tell me whether it is that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   the point is when I'm running that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36   sentence I will not write it in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   way that it even implies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   that core data uses sequel light iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   uses sequel light and therefore iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   uses core data because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:47   something I know so I'll be very careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   to limit the sentences you can send us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   like lawyer wording or weasel wording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   but I will I will make sure that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54   saying something that I do not know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   be true and conversely if I'm wording in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   something in such a way that it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   that something is true it's because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   confirmed it you know either because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   Apple told me or because I've gone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   confirmed it myself so I'm very careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4026">TS</a>]

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01:07:11   reviews sometimes frustratingly so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4031">TS</a>]

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01:07:17   you think blah I'll say well read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4037">TS</a>]

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01:07:20   well no but you know like they read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:23   sentence that's in their head not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24   sentences on the page if I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   words that I wrote do the words say or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   imply this at all can you logically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   conclude from what I've written this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   thing that you're claiming that I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   you can't most of the time but they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   get the impression that they can so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   have in my mind I have the ornery reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:41   with that voice that I just imitated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:42   when I'm writing every single sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   saying when that dude writes in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   usually dude and complains about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4066">TS</a>]

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01:07:50   sentence for Batum from the website in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4070">TS</a>]

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01:08:04   reading a sentence then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4084">TS</a>]

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01:08:20   in the area of grammar so I'm obsessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   with being correct but know almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   nothing about it again it was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4104">TS</a>]

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01:08:30   much time on English grammar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4110">TS</a>]

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01:09:36   contact online to bounce things off them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4176">TS</a>]

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01:09:39   not use a comma there or should I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   - what word could I use for this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   grammatically correct is this around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   everything now the grammar is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:49   bit funny because like like any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   formal system you'll have your share of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:52   rules lawyers you know that phrase from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4192">TS</a>]

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01:09:56   business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4196">TS</a>]

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01:10:03   unfortunately I lack the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:04   education to be a proper rules lawyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4204">TS</a>]

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01:10:08   coming from but mostly what I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   remember when I'm dealing with grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   or just writing in general is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   purpose of writing is to communicate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   pass ideas from one person to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:17   and the role grammar plays in that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   that you're getting everybody to agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   or trying to get everyone to agree on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   set of rules so we can increase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   chances that what we write will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:26   interpreted the way we expect by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:27   reader the reader and the writer have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   be on the same page about when I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:32   in this way with this punctuation this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   is what I'm trying to say so we we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   agree on the grammar and punctuation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:37   rules so that we can successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:40   transfer information alright because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:44   didn't agree and I wrote in perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:45   grammatical English but someone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   five centuries ago read they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   no idea what I was talking about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:49   it would be so incorrect that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   wouldn't make any sense now but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54   corollary to this is that grammar rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:57   can impair communication if the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:58   isn't aware of the grammar rules so once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4258">TS</a>]

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01:11:04   with a master's degree in English to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   tell me that this is 100 percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   grammatically correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   and the way you should write this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   none of the readers are going to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   that and they're not going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4270">TS</a>]

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01:11:13   sharing the same rule book or they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   know this particular formulation or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   particular structure or it's confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   to them or they might interpret it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   wrong way so I returned to my mantra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   about this ever writing is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:24   communication if I have to break a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   grammar rule to increase the chances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   that I can communicate an idea to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4288">TS</a>]

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01:11:31   usually involves like writing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34   informally more like how I speak because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:37   that that will be successful at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   communicating even if it's incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   grammar if I feel like I'm on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4301">TS</a>]

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01:11:47   communicate this idea to you but when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4307">TS</a>]

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01:11:53   become less formal and let's stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:57   rules less just so I can get my idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4317">TS</a>]

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01:11:59   and this is if I have one tip that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4319">TS</a>]

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01:12:04   of all these things that will hold up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4324">TS</a>]

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01:12:11   easy to forget that so easy to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4331">TS</a>]

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01:12:13   doing a sculpture or creating a film or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16   doing some sort of art it is writing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   way for you to communicate ideas to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   someone else and anything that gets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:22   the way of communication good grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   bad grammar good style baths taught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:26   communication overall unless you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:29   writing poetry I guess or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   is more sort of pure art but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32   writing nonfiction and trying to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   things communicate the important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   next slide is the hook I absolutely have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4357">TS</a>]

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01:12:45   reader whether that hook survives into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   the written word doesn't matter I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4367">TS</a>]

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01:12:50   and since I choose when to write I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   to have some hook that that draws me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4373">TS</a>]

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01:13:10   mistaken for an actual headline and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4390">TS</a>]

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01:13:15   don't know yeah well le de what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   mean by the lead is the headline the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:21   title and they spell it led instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:24   le ad or any other thing so that if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4404">TS</a>]

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01:13:30   there when it goes to print they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   know that this could not possibly be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   real title because it's misspelled I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4414">TS</a>]

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01:13:37   complete backwards someone's telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4417">TS</a>]

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01:13:44   taking this slide since I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   complete origins of this phrase I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:47   taking this slide to mean the title and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   speaking of hooks which was the last one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   the title is very very often the hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4432">TS</a>]

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01:13:57   sleep have an idea I can just reach over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   and tap out whatever my ideas and I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:03   I have to actually do that because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:04   you say when you say idea are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:05   talking about for within the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08   an article that you're already writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   or something brand-new something I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   anything idea for something I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   which is been more common when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:15   embroiled in this line review idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4455">TS</a>]

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01:14:20   related to writing but any one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   things it could be it and I find I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:23   to tap them out on my iPad I can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   go or ipod I can't just go to sleep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4465">TS</a>]

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01:14:28   because if I don't write them down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   forget them this is what happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4470">TS</a>]

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01:14:41   even remember that I had that thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   have to write it down and very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   those ideas or titles just titles like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4485">TS</a>]

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01:14:49   notes app on the the iPod Touch it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:52   just full of things that look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   article titles with nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   underneath them and that's usually all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4494">TS</a>]

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01:14:59   it to remind me to access the portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   my brain where that idea is stored if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   lose the key sort of if I lose if I lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   the address of where that idea is stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   I'll never remember it but once I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:08   that thing oh yeah all the ideas I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   come flooding back occasionally I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:11   need one or two words in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   that and I almost always find my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:16   titles that I come up with much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   clever and insightful than any reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:19   ever well his friend is probably because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:21   like I associate my titles with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:25   thoughts on the topic and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:26   kind of baked into that one line or my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:29   job is to take all those ideas that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   associate with that one line and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   them on the paper and the degree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   which I fail to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:35   indicate those thoughts to the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   term ins exactly how clever they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   the title is so if I have a clever title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   I think this is great content buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4540">TS</a>]

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01:15:43   underneath it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:43   people think that title is stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   because I didn't successfully extract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   all the meaning that I had associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   with that title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:50   we're just reffering for me but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:53   that's the title is kind of the hook for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56   me it got me excited about writing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   thing the next slide is unstuck so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:02   shorter pieces I only really get stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   in the beginning I guess I'd have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:05   trouble starting but then once it get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:06   going is done before I have a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   get stuck again but for longer things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   like the lion review it's more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   series of short pieces so every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   get to the beginning of a section I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:15   stuck again because now I got to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   new beginning it's a sub beginning I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:18   don't have to begin begin again but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   have to begin a lot start talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:21   whatever this topic is and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   starting all over again and then on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:26   of that there are the meta issues of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:27   organizing in and linking between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   sections and trying to form some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   whole out of this massive shambling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   monster that is a Mac OS 10 review it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:36   really really hard for me to take all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   those things that I want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40   and try to present it as a cohesive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:41   whole I usually do a bad job with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   maybe the closest I've come is the snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   leopard review I give you were to ask a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   reader I'll first slog through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   giant review this was the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:51   mangosteen review I did by the way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:54   then tell me what you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   overarching theme is and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   probably won't be able to tell you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:58   the theme is this guy needs to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4618">TS</a>]

01:16:59   less or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   but if you ask me what the heart of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   article was it was actually wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:07   down it was one of the sections was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:08   doing more with more which is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   of Apple giving developers and itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   the tools to take better advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   having more CPU resources instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:15   having a faster CPU having more CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   cores instead so doing more with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:20   taking that more Hardware that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21   available to you and figuring out a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:22   to use it that was sort of the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   theme of Snow Leopard as far as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   concerned and I named a section doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   more with more and I proceeded it by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:30   whole bunch of different sections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:31   specific technologies there was enabling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   you to do more with more and that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:34   theme but how will I weave that through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   the rest of the thing like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:37   reading about me complaining about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:38   finder are you thinking that the theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:41   of Snow Leopard is doing more with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:42   I guess it's my guest operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45   aren't movies and there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:46   be an overarching theme and so I'm sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   of are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:48   definitely applying one but I do I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   want there to be one otherwise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   I want my reviews to have a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   of the feeling of a narrative instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   just here's this feature they added this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   check box here's a screen shot they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   it's more check boxes here's it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01   what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:02   that's a lot of the Mac OS 10 reviews or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   a long technical reviews I see online or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   just like that it's like someone went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07   through every single screen and took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:08   screen shot of it and then wrote words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09   to explain what you see in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   screenshot noting which things are new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:12   or not and that's not what I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   it sometimes that's what people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   that's not that's not what I'm providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:17   most of the time I usually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   section or two that are like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   my grab bag section at the end ride to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:22   show a bunch of screenshots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:23   interesting things but I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:26   about something so the next section is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   proofing I am a terrible proofer of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:33   own writing I think most people are do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   you have to end it off you have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   someone else to do it yo you have to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   like I don't know you can you prove your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   own writing oh yeah you can you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44   all the errors like you can find yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   Clanny arrows the hand up I cannot do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   that and most people I met can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   as well because what you read is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   you meant to write not what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:52   written there hmm now there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   a corollary to this the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:57   will magnify my proofreading abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   by an order of magnitude just make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   just super proof reader is hitting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   publish button and making whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:04   wrote good live for the internet then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   the whole the whole world season starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:07   as soon as my brain knows that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   people are reading what I've written it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:11   panics and finally starts reading with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:12   the actual words on the page in fact if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   I was smart I would convince the site's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:17   that I published for to rig the CMS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   that only I can see it it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   the reverse hell ban where only I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   see what I've published but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   everyone else can see it because when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:27   that's what I'll do I'll hit the publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:28   button then you go to the site to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:29   that it's displaying correctly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:30   site or whatever and then then I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:34   and then I find the typos which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:35   worst time to find it because now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:36   open for it but that's the only thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   motivate my brain to actually find typos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:41   in my own writing which is sad but true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:44   so this is the good thing about internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   publishing though someone in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   room suggested changing the typeface I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   should bring that up actually I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51   have that in my notes here but so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53   write I don't write markdown I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   markdown fan I can do a show about why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56   don't like markdown oh we get it do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   got to do that if you like markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   that's great for you but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:01   but I write in HTML I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   natural for me to write in HTML I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:04   already know HTML it's going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   HTML I just write in that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09   people I say well how can you even read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   something with tags all over as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   point of markdown get that markup crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   out of your text so you can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:15   read it well I do not proofread most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:18   the time by looking at the HTML I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   an HTML preview window and BBEdit which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   updates in real time and I proofread on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:25   the HTML but right in the text and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:28   idea of changing the font of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:29   changing you know writing in one font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   and then change to another to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32   proofread this is the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:33   changing the fun and that I'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:34   it basically I am changed by I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   at in Monaco 9 or whatever in BB edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   and then HTML preview I have templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:41   that look like Ars Technica and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   siding under anymore the preview is on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   different file would ever fought the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:46   website is in different size different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   layout different line breaks everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49   I think a lot of change in the font is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   that it could also change the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   breaks and make you proofread things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:54   better but yeah that does really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   but I'm still terrible at it so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:59   with the sites I write for high proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   readers obviously Mac world has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   hardcore print proof readers who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   don't miss anything I've never seen them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:05   miss anything because you get one shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:08   at print but for the online stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:09   have proof readers too but the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   thing about online is that the minute it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   goes up people will start sending you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   the typos and you can fix them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17   go right in and immediately fix them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:18   you're not even talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:19   inaccuracies which of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   wouldn't you would never have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:22   inaccuracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23   I got inaccuracies occasionally it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   mostly because of what I try to have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   my inaccuracies is I want me to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:30   either say something in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   expresses that I don't know maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   this way maybe it's that way somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:36   right and say actually it's that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   then I can go put in an update and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:39   well here's an update actually it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   way or I will omit information because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   if I don't know it I won't say it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   don't want to happen is for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:47   conclusively say this is that way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48   know X is y and it someone say no you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:50   totally wrong if I don't know for sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   just want right and then then someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:53   might complain say you didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54   mention this didn't know that X is y and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:57   I said no I actually didn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:58   that's why I didn't write about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4918">TS</a>]

01:21:59   I will stick to what I know so I welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:02   Corrections I tried to avoid having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:03   factual Corrections where I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:04   hundred percent wrong and obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:05   you're writing upwards is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:06   happen eventually but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   typos is a big one and the new thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10   me since I use speech recognition a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:11   is I don't know what you call speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   shows there's got to be a word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   errors that happen from bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:17   transcriptions and speech recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18   software all right it'll do an A or an N [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20   it's always it has a spellcheck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:22   perfectly because the speech recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:23   is not going to type a word doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   exist in this dictionary so you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   catch it with spellcheck unlike typos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   normal typos where u transpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   characters or whatever it'll sail right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   through but it's nonsensical you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   the wrong word somewhere that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35   vaguely like the word you meant but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   the correct word and that's of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   that you know when I read the sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   I'll just read what I meant to write and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   the readers will say this makes no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:43   I think you meant and there instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   end or the instead of there all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:50   next slide is leftovers so as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:55   writing and I I'm shaving stuff off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58   because I don't want to move on until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   I've got a good sentence sometimes I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:02   have a sentence that I think was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   but this is not the right place for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:05   I'll just Chuck to the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:06   document inside a big HTML comment block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   and by the time I'm done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   I've got leftover sentences leftover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   paragraphs or all sorts of leftover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:14   things just jumbled up at the end there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16   now sometimes like deleted scenes on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   DVD was a good reason there's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   reason they were left out like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   I may have been wedded to them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   thought they were great but really when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   you look back at them it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   that those that should have been cut but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:28   sometimes you have an idea it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31   the right time for so you can just shove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:32   them away in the notes and maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:35   will come up again and inspire you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:36   very very rarely do I delete anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   from the leftovers bin because I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   know when it's going to even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   issue that's talking about is long since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   passed I will keep the the note there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46   because it may be applicable to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48   future scenario and remind me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:49   something else knowing when you're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:52   I think I've said this on a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   podcast it's another old saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   works of art you don't finish them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:57   escape this is mostly true for longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:01   reviews for me for shorter ones I well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:06   as longer reviews everything's there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   go to print because they just escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:09   you're like wait no come back I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   could make you better no oh it has to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:12   out for shorter pieces though I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   want to get them online as fast as I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   because I'm writing about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:17   that's timely like this is the day that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:20   everyone's talking about issue X so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   if I don't publish my story about issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25   X today tomorrow the news cycle will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   move on and will not be as relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   this is another exciting part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:30   internet publishing you feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   contributing to a worldwide conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   about a hot topic in real time it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   different from writing longer pieces for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   print magazines or even longer things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   ours like the features but they'll hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   back for you know for traffic reasons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44   because they're not related to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   particular new Star Mac Westerner use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:47   argue Lee are related to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:48   new star base this is the day that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   is released but there's a window around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   that but other issues like if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53   writing about I did the thing on ebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   for ours and ebooks were not in the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   at that point and it was not a hot topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   so they you know they could hold that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:00   for two days a week or whatever and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02   fit into the schedule and ever they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:03   to publish it but shorter ones I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05   get out so I will not linger over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:08   short one I get antsy about you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:11   want to see it published I wrote it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:12   get it up so it's timely this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:17   final thing here footnote I try not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:21   use footnotes because I don't like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:24   don't like it when I lose my place when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:25   I'm reading things even in physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27   books where you can see the footnote on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:30   the same page you just have to move your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   eyes down I don't even like moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   eyes down to read the footnote to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:34   it back up now when I do use footnotes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   use these in page links with the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   Unicode symbols that Gruber came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   years ago for go down to the footnote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   them around your previous right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   the browser's ability to return you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:47   wherever that anchor is earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   page so sketchy like sometimes it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:54   leave margin so it'll Jam the line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56   text that the anchor is in up against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58   the top of the screen and that's ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5158">TS</a>]

01:25:59   and in either way you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02   remember your place exactly because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03   you remember where you were looking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:04   the screen you'll be able to be looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:06   someplace else unless the anchor was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:07   exactly the top of the screen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   you're reading it yeah when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11   reading you could come to a footnote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:12   that's halfway down the page and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:13   click it and go to the footnote but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   you return that footnote will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:16   halfway down the page it will be at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   top or if you go to a footnote that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:19   lower down the page that may be the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   won't scroll at all and you won't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:24   to deal with that but it's just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   spotty I don't I don't like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:26   displaced in that way so I generally try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:28   to avoid using them or using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:31   I'm much a bigger fan but I'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   just add parenthetically in line or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35   something like that now that's not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   say I don't have my own idiosyncrasies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   and things that I enjoy things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:41   enjoy much much more than read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   - I'm sure like I like to link to audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:46   and video clips from random words not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:50   particularly clever links but there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   serve an important purses kind of kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54   of like the the title hooks the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   that I get a kick out of them keeps me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   interested in the article and keeps me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   writing you know and it's also kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   like my reward at the end like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   annotate while I'm writing like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:04   I should link this to this audio clip or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   I should like that - that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:07   thing just because it amuses me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:09   when I'm done writing I have to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:10   and actually connect those links and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:11   all that stuff I'm sure one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14   readers actually mouse over every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   link I put into an article click on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:17   most people don't enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   a few people click on and get pissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   because I think it's dumb and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:22   probably is I'm sorry for that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   just something I'd do to keep myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:25   amused maybe the footnotes are the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   way for some other people we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28   our writing vices and speaking footnotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   one final note on linking things I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   to link things I think in links so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:38   I write without HTML like when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   writing for print for the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:41   started writing a link I'm like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   wait a second I can actually I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   actually make a link here and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   just it was it was very strange to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   obviously I'd written not an HTML for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   years and years in school oh not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   much writing but in high school or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:54   whatever but in my quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:58   professional writing career I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   writing in HTML until I started writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   for print a little bit it's just strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   I find myself having to go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:07   revise to make sure that the text not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09   the links but the text itself if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11   stripped of all HTML actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   communicates all the subtleties that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:14   was trying to express by linking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   particular a particular word to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:17   particular thing with I have to say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   well if that link wasn't there are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   ideas still in a sentence or was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:22   leaning on that link to add meaning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   the sentence the old-school view is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:27   this this is foolish that the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   completely strike the scripted links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5309">TS</a>]

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01:29:24   understand what a stack is does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   reader understand what a virtual machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5366">TS</a>]

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01:29:46   or into Wikipedia and find themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:48   but they won't so by providing the links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5388">TS</a>]

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01:30:19   a little phrase or parenthetical aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5419">TS</a>]

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01:30:26   particular thing you have it expressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5426">TS</a>]

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01:31:32   problem that people have with this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5492">TS</a>]

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01:31:53   Simpson link right and 500 content links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5513">TS</a>]

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01:32:03   other link or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5523">TS</a>]

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01:32:18   Wikipedia dot something other than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:20   know it's a Wikipedia link but the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5540">TS</a>]

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01:32:23   read online understand that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   mandatory to follow every single link if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5546">TS</a>]

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01:32:31   there and you know what a pointer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5551">TS</a>]

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01:32:35   to click on a link you're just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5555">TS</a>]

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01:32:44   need to experience your article that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   didn't know about pointers maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5566">TS</a>]

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01:32:54   clear that there's subtext because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5574">TS</a>]

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01:32:58   sentence and you say without the link I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5578">TS</a>]

01:32:59   have no idea what he's saying but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   the link I think the words that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:04   chosen to link show that yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5584">TS</a>]

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01:33:08   wondering out what do you mean by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09   and if you find yourself questioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5589">TS</a>]

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01:33:25   about that they they're clicking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5605">TS</a>]

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01:33:28   rickrolled running like that the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   complaints I get or is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   physically it's distracting to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:34   because the words are differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   colored in underlining well oftentimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   they complained about the color of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39   links that that especially the visited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   link color might be too light and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5621">TS</a>]

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01:33:45   is that the link colors are not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5625">TS</a>]

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01:34:34   saying well you didn't you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:35   support that and you're not leading it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37   clear that you have some background in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:38   this but you not gonna tell me what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:39   background is by linking to it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41   frustrates me so you when my line review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:44   comes out is coming it ever comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46   you should read it and tell me what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:47   think of the linking because you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:48   obviously in the anti linking camp some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:52   sections are heavier link than others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:53   intros in particular seem to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   heavy like I'm starting a section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56   talking about the file system now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:57   going to recap like you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5697">TS</a>]

01:35:00   done X and y to the file system they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:01   this that and the other thing and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:02   time the other thing each one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:04   phrases will be linked back to a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06   describing in detail what those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:07   are and if you remember oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:08   remember when they had a journaling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09   gauge of S Plus now that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   valuable linking to me but but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14   the density of links and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:15   paragraph is huge because every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17   thing I say every now and basically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:18   linked back to a technical description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20   of what that noun is and if you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:22   know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:23   you know what journaling was or when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:25   they added it or what it meant by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:26   then you can follow link to you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28   huge section of an earlier review or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:30   applica technical note that explains to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:32   you if you really want to participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:33   this in this technical conversation then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   you can come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:36   long but if you know what journaling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:37   you're not going to mouse over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:38   journaling to think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:39   some sort of Simpsons joke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:40   journaling because seriously there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42   like 1.5 of those per review if you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:45   them great they might amusing you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:46   they're you're not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:47   rickrolled you're not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   booby-trapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:49   all the links lead someplace informative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:50   or add information to to the proceedings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:54   and there are huge sections with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56   links because sometimes there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:57   to link you're just talking those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:58   the ones I wouldn't knock out with links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5758">TS</a>]

01:36:00   because I want people to just listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:01   what I'm saying and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:03   referencing things they may not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:04   about like the opinion sections or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07   here's what I think about this when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:08   explaining something lots of links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10   appear in there because I want I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12   bring as many people along as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:13   so if a lot of people who read ours it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:16   you know it's aspirational there it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   technical site and on ours every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20   person is going to read something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:21   don't understand like if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:22   believe this if you're not a scientist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24   go try to read the science articles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:25   understand it in fact I wish the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:26   articles had more links because I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   them or like nope this is impenetrable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:29   to me I don't even have the basis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:30   knowledge to understand what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:31   you're talking about I want to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:33   everybody along and say if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:34   learn about this nitty-gritty you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36   you're in the internal section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:37   review and you want to learn about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:38   that we're talking about if you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   time in this page and follow those links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:41   you can get enough background to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43   along for the ride and then have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   understanding of the eventual opinions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47   express about this issue because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:49   understand the the background so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5809">TS</a>]

01:36:54   fine with being a little bit out ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:55   of the general public on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:56   pervasiveness of linking I always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:58   been and I continue to being and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:02   only thing keeps me going I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:03   that I do get the occasional feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05   that says boy you're the only person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:07   I've seen on the internet who links the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:08   right way instead of double underlining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   words that lead to sponsors or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   having any links or having stupid links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   that every time I want to know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16   about something I could just mouse over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:17   the word that I expected and learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19   about it and or I was able to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:22   your discussion because of how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:23   links you put in but it was really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:25   but I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:25   and without the links those links I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:27   to skip this section that's the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:28   feedback that I get that keeps me going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:30   in that regard so that was the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:33   slide 12 slides for authors what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:36   think well in this case it was 12 slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38   one author well it's for total C 3 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:42   know hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:43   I'm long I'm shamelessly lumping myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:46   in but you do you couldn't you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:48   there you weren't didn't go to South by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:49   Southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:50   you're right you're trying to bring me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:52   down aren't you no I'm with them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:55   spirit okay then that was a that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:59   link will be in the show notes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5879">TS</a>]

01:37:59   should watch it it's a video but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:01   they just show you the slides then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:02   hear the voices I actually listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:04   on a podcast and I think they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:06   same thing I did although not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:07   clumsily they read the slides so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:09   know what it is they're talking about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:11   if you just want to get the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:12   version of that that works just as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:14   I was actually hoping you were you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:16   gonna tell me like what word processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:18   you used and if you have any special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:20   beverage you have on your desk the tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:23   and tricks again and with them we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25   to do that right BBEdit Monica nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27   point text so that's how you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:28   though you don't you know write I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30   and BB I occasionally had to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   Scribner Scribner is an awesome app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:33   find that I use Scrivener more when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:36   running for print because I want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:37   how it's going to look in print and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:40   I don't know why this is totally not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:42   case Scrivener people write books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44   Scribner right but I tend I tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:46   think of Scrivener as four shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:48   pieces for me I don't know why that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50   it's just I guess because in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:51   writing fiction I when I'm writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53   BBEdit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:53   it's just a big hairy mess of HTML and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:57   like I said I got that big section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5937">TS</a>]

01:38:58   the comment at the bottom was commented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5938">TS</a>]

01:38:59   out with little snippets and URLs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01   I've got web browsers going that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:03   another thing that didn't get to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:04   slides is that when I write anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:06   technical it's like 50/50 split between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:09   researching a web browser writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11   researching web browser writing looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:12   at waz video writing looking at PDF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14   document writing just because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:17   single sentence I write if I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   say anything technical I'm like well do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:20   you know that or you just vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:21   remember it and you'd be surprised how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23   much you only vaguely remember you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:25   it's like when I when I'm about to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:26   a sentence oh you know everybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:28   XYZ and I'm like but do you really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30   that or you just have some memory of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32   years ago WABC you think you heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:33   go find that video go go that section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:36   the video look at that slide and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   sure that guy actually says what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:39   think he says before you continue on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   next sentence that's why writing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:42   link takes me for freaking ever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:44   I don't rely on just my vague memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:47   how of what I thought for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:49   that I have any doubt about I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:50   confirmation and I can't continue until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:52   I get confirmation so yeah BBEdit web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:57   browsers the HTML preview the HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/5997">TS</a>]

01:40:00   preview is bothering me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:02   because once you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:04   ten twenty thirty thousand words into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6004">TS</a>]

01:40:05   something and you're at the bottom of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   every time you write something new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:08   the thing refreshes this little blink or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   flutter in the preview window and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:12   starts to grate on me so I will also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:13   occasionally just have a safari window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:16   with a lot but you know local HTML file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:18   version open and I'll write and write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:21   and write and then I'll go back this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:22   very window hit reload and then read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:24   what I've written so far and then go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:26   back so that said anything more you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:30   to know about my writing environment I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32   think I think it will have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34   questions I don't right now but I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:35   will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Ipk88d60/6035">TS</a>]

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