00:00:02 ◼ ► this is hypercritical weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► technologies and businesses nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/8">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► so perfect that it cannot be complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► about or criticized by my co-host John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► siracusa i'm dan benjamin this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/16">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► reporting live and direct from his hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► room we'll be talking a lot about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► and other things of course but first we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► want to say thanks to our two sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/30">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► Rackspace calm and Shopify calm which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► we'll tell you about as the program goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► on so how's WWDC so you know I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► have follow-up listed on the sheet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► do you want to skip it all now let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► some of it and we got to talk about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► toaster so let's do the following oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► before you know what I even have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► because I almost never have an ambition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► okay go for it ah last episode I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► a crappy USB mic a lot of people seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► think that that was my new and I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/59">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► something and that they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/64">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► have to endure that kind of quality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► I had an inordinate amount of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► emailing me tweeting me or I am a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► with great concern that this was the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► quality of the setup but you explained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► alright I'm not saying you don't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► concerned about that and that was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► unique one-off situation I had only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► computer I only had a USB headset with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► me it was a unique situation it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► reflective of anything we should ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/93">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► let happen again and Johnse recusant was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► the one that recorded that I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► situation it was so that did clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► it's not a problem this time and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/103">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► we should we have someone to thank we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► would like to thank Jason Snell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/107">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► providing you with the you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► full-fledged studio right now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► you're wired up you're miked up that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► headset mic whatever this pop guard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► whatever they call that thing so we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► like to thank them very very much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► giving you such a great situation we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► Hotel internet with even though you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► wired up there it was a subpar was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► unusable so we had to reschedule and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► Jason Snell came to the rescue and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► I have just the place for Jon Circus he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► is a king among men so thanks to him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► his whole organization that he has built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/148">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► yeah self-made man mm-hmm all right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► your your fu all right uh I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/156">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► like two shows ago or something sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► we mentioned tweet marks which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► Manresa service for keeping track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► what position you are in the the Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► timeline all right and I complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► something that Twitter should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► seems like something that Twitter should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► be doing why would they why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► leave that to a third party to to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► track of what your last read tweet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► and somebody got my memory so bad was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► somebody explained why that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► maybe it was Marco maybe it was Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► maybe who's Manton maybe it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► person maybe it was on a podcast yep I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► pretty fried after a week but somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► had an explanation for why in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► Twitter wouldn't uh you know keep track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► of where your last retreat was and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► idea was that they don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► read every single tweet which is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► do but they don't want you to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► you're behind and to like try to keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► with Twitter stream they they want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► to just you know turn on your device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► whatever tweets happen to be flying by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► that moment look at them because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► not email it's not a news group it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► important to realize just about now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► about right now they're they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► to they're trying to influence the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► people use it now that's not the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► use the product which explains why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► so frustrated about you know not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► this type of thing or you know and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► I guess I'm not the only one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► mantains making this service you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/234">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► there are other people who treat it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► like kind of like a mailing list or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► a bulletin board but just you and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► you know 50 of your friends around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► because it's like a self-selected little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► mailing list with a couple of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► friends it's the way a lot of people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► it where you follow 10 or 20 people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► you know you only see their things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► it seems like all 10 or 20 of you are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► a room it's like IRC without being in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► room and without having to you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► a client and all that and so they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► to see everything that they're 10 or 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► people say as if you were all hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► out in the same room just not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► temporarily separated you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► and that's the way I use Twitter and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► a lot of used people use Twitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► that's not the way trigger wants people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► to use it and may not even be the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► majority people use it I really couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► say how most people use Twitter but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► least there's some and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► this was an explanation from Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► speculating based on things that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► heard or just giving a rationalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► but I bought it that sounded to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/284">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► someone from Twitter will confirm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► for you for me they're very they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► uh you know tight-lipped over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► hello cards very close to their chest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► yeah I talked to Lauren Bricker actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/299">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► met him for the first time and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► the one of the eight bazillion people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► met at WABC but nice as Peter says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► client stuff it really has no nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► particularly to say about the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► vision of Twitter you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► really involved in that all right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► that's all I have for follow up that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► actually followed you said you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► list on paper that was like one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► well you know it's indented there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► couple different levels all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► actually this is in the follow up too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► but I thought you would bring it up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► you didn't but I'm loathe to bring it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► so I'm just gonna skip it the toaster no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► that's not falled you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► a toaster well I want to hear what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/341">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► is if you're especially if you're loathe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► to bring it up I must know what it is Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► none I'm not gonna if you think of it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► your own we'll discuss oh let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► about the toaster toaster you know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► get it out of the way before we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/352">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► about WBZ all right so III have sketchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► details on how this whole toaster thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► rolled out but perhaps you can tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► story all right well you know anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► listens to the show knows the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/362">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► toaster back story if you don't go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► a couple episodes and listen to the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► where I complained about the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/367">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► toasters and toaster ovens and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► course on the next show we had follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► from people who wrote in about slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► toasters versus toaster ovens and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► different kinds of heating elements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► and like any good network sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► characters from one show appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► another show and right and backwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► forwards you know like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► would you would have Fonzie showing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► on Laverne and Shirley or whatever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► so it's the same thing in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► Fonzie was Marco and you were Laverne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and Shirley bunny I'm Marco got to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► about toasters before I did because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► I was going to talk about toaster but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/400">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► caught on that yeah he recorded an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► toaster episode where he talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► his toaster so going in we already heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► about his toaster and then in my episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► I talked about mine you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► toasters and in the show notes and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► discussed their relative merits and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► know I forget what the other things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► discussed in that show but that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► of the topics that was the same show his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/419">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► Twitter but any right that's been you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► know out there in the network in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► know in the 5x5 network this discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► of toasters but obviously I was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► genesis of the toaster thing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► had originally said that I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► complain about toasters and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► did so was this two days ago you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/432">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► movies yesterday I losing track the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► here I was sitting down to a session at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► WWC and got a message on my Twitter DM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► from Marco saying hey can you come meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► me and Merlin down on the first floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► for a second and I hadn't yet met Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► at the show who's in a few days in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► hadn't run into him he didn't attend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► show but you know I know he lived here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/456">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► and I had heard that a couple other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► people to him so I hope Merlin's there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/458">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► should go down and meet him otherwise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► might have said I'll meet you after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► session or something cuz it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► session I wanted to see but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► Merlin having Merlin's name in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► all right yeah I better go down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/466">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► because it's may be my only chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► talk to him and I went down there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► there's Merlin and Marko a couple the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► people standing around like hey how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► doing and then I see they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► gigantic box for me and it's the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► large surprisingly large box containing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► your toaster your exact make and model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► of toaster right which I had you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► looked at and said that you know I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► what I saw and I had you know I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► downloaded the PDF manual when you told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► me about it just to get the measurements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► of it to see that it would fit and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/495">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► like that I'm like you know maybe I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► think if I can tell they you would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► had gone so far as to put it on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► Amazon wish list which is Paulo so it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► I wouldn't yes I wouldn't lose track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/503">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► it you know because this exact model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► number and maybe I would remember which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► episode that was on and on the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► stuff like that so I'm yeah I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► I think Marco said he went to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► notes and got that but anyway Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► Merlin a bunch of other people had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► at lunch together just you know hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► out or whatever and at some point they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► they came up with a toaster idea I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► Marlon was we should get him a toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► and you know that type of enthusiasm can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► be infectious and that grew but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► you're a little slap happy at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/528">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► held it was like four models and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► suits they had there and one of the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► models in toasters was your exact half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► love toaster and you just you just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► the biggest upgrade of your whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► yeah yes I was I was uh very touched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/542">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► and flattered and amused and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► course at that point they have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/548">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► me I had like a pink ribbon on too they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► had to have me posing with the toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► carrying it and of course I'm now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► know socially obligated to do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► heck whatever that embarrassing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► it's in the middle WWC mind you so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► I am in this room full of nerds with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► big huge banners but lying in the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► thing hanging overhead carrying a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► toaster box standing in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► pictures of me with iPhones celebrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► yeah so you can see those online if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► you're really interested we'll try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► get the did you add them to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► nuts yeah I have not added anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► the show notes because yeah the Wi-Fi at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► the hotel is like $15 a day and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► paid for the two days that I used it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► sided video chat home to my kids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► once I tried to do the thing with you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/587">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► bookmarklet and talk about blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/592">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► blah so I haven't done any show notes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► have to do them retro actively but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► well there's a new guy added a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► I saw it yeah the one that the live show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► yeah yeah so you can do it before now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► yes I'll get show notes up they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► have these pictures in it I was debating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► whether it may depending on how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► time I have to do this stuff maybe I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► do like a video unboxing of a toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► ball you've got two more likely I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► once I get back home it's gonna be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► into the swing of things and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► won't have time for plus I have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► my review written so maybe I will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► be able to use it on it certainly on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► future show I will give my analysis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► the toast I've already discussed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► the people who were responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► something bad about the toaster I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► still gonna say it but don't feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► isn't like I don't appreciate the gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► but it's you know it's my way right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► will give up I will give a review of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► toaster I did say that no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► much I hated it I would never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► return it because it now has sentimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► value you know what I mean yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► it's the witc toasters alright that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► a very nice gesture by it by Marko and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► Merlin and I really appreciated it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► touching from people I had just met you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► experienced a human emotion for one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► the first times besides anger I do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► but you know wz i really have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► overwhelmed with how how nice everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► has been to me in particular so ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/672">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► talk WT saying yeah I'd love to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► your take on it is if you have you heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► any of the other shows or if you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► sequestered enough to intentionally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► because I'm sure they're gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► exactly the same things that I did so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► you already listen to mark on Gruber's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► podcast I'm sorry if I repeat stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► coincidence that we are all saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► same thing and of course in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► we'll all of us have actually talked you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► know before our podcasts in person about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► the topic which is a change so the odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► of us saying the same things are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► different voices oh and so as someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► the chatroom noted yes I am very hoarse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► today it's been a long week of late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► nights for an old man alright and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► allowed music and shouting so yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► know this is a great microphone setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► but you were hearing my hoarseness in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► all its glory this is such a great mommy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► we got to get you a better mic at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/724">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► house or wherever you record I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/725">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► doesn't it was better than that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► can't you gotta say it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► whatever you got but fries but well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► know because I've been using my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► the whole run and no one has said hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► you know John sounds awful you really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► gotta get him a new mic they said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► sounded awful immediately because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► that thing was hard it was horrible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► won't even I won't even say what brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► it was but it was horrible and beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► that here's the other thing is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► recorder on your end yes double whammy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► and then that made it even worse maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► if I'd recorded it here it might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► sounded a little better but I doubt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► but I don't even want to unlike you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► don't I don't want to throw anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► under the bus so I won't even say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► it was a logitech Oh - oh right yeah not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► too late now yeah all right um so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/773">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► didn't listen to ther up so they did see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► some of the titles of their episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► because I download them onto my ipod for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► the flight home so I can listen to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► they have to say um certain birds yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/787">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► yeah and I floated by I thought oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► certainly birds I can guess like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► show I probably surprises because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► sitting next to him during the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► we kind of shared that experience yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► together so as for the s4w we see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/803">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► you know the first day they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► keynote right but everything after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► is under NDA so a lot of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► been emailing me and sending me messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► on Twitter they want me to talk about X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► or Y because they read about it on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► site but I'm not going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► anything that wasn't in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/819">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► because that's still under NDA and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► truthfully most of the stuff you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► hear me you know what do you have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► about this particular thing if it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► mentioned in the keynote you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/828">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► read about of the Mac OS 10 review too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► so you'll have to wait until my Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► 10 review to hear my take on things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► were not in the keynote but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► discuss things that were in the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► yes I know they said July which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► killing me like I didn't even get they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► didn't give me you know day but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► always do that they'll say July what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► that means is the the last day of July I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► really hope it does but I have to assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► you can try to you know get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► ready on July 1st then I'll just polish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► it in it you know the thing the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► with this thing is it's never done just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► deadline is whatever I've got that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► that's it but you know with online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► publishing up until like the last second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► that's published I'm adding stuff fixing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► stuff cracking stuff adding those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► sometimes even like in the first five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► minutes that is published I'll add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► sentence or two just I cannot stop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► know like always another tidbit oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► here's a clarification I got in this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► eventually just have to let it go so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► will work that way with this document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► right up until it goes out now as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► the as for the attending before we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► about the keynote ending this stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► since this is my first WWC the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► hadn't really given much thought to was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► that when I watched the videos which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► I can watch pretty much all of them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► when you're there in person it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► multitrack conference and you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► literally cannot go to all the sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/904">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► because you can't be in five places at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► once and it was frustrating to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► choose between you know two sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► three sessions all of which I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/911">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► see and the worst part was that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► missed one that means I have to wait you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► know a week and a half two weeks for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► videos to come out and now it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► July 1st already before I can even see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► the session you know even though I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/921">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► to WWC I can't there's a session that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► cannot see and you know until I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► videos and that may be you know days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/927">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► before I have to be done so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/928">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► being there great experience overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► mean this is this is your your home turf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/936">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► impression for being here that like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► saying you go to WWC for the sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► sometimes seems a little bit like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► you read playboy for the articles you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► know I mean like and and I was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► I'm going you know before I left like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/952">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► you know I'm going for the sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► totally because I need to learn this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► information to do my review so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► forth but there realistically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► especially for the first time maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► would be different in subsequent but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► the for the first time it's like meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► meeting the people and talking with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► people was so much more important than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► the sessions the sessions were great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► I loved the videos and everything I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► need to do my job but the reason it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/972">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► vacation and you know everything to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► was was meeting the people so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► gratifying thing and the thing I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► to miss you know assuming I don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► next year which I probably won't is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► know seeing all those people again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► just meaning from the first time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/989">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► great so you're there you're at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/990">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► but let's talk about the keynote first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► mean before we get into the who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► what session I don't care what says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► can't talk I can't talk about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► anyways all right these are the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► uhm first time being in the same room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► with Steve Jobs for you not true not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► electrifying not true was the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► I went to Macworld New York 2001 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► got a free apology Mouse remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► think we discussed this yes yes so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► have seen him speak before and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► I've seen you know I went to the Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► tech talks which were free to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► registered developers remember the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► talk things it was like a little mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► WWC where they'd come to your town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► some of the guys who gave the same you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► know presentations WABC would do it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► a one day thing one track in a place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► Boston you know where so I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► to take you know of playing anywhere or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► get hotel or anything like that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► went to that so I feel like I'd been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► a mini WWE but this is you know on a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► scale this place is huge it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► nice looking and it's just tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► of nerds here but anyway I had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► Steve speak before so I was you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► had asked Marco before like the days in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► the weeks before how early do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► to get online to be able to get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► keynote you know or asked a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► people who'd actually been there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► Marco and a few other people said oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► know like 6:00 a.m. something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► I got in line at 6:00 a.m. and the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► was like a wrapping around the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► all the way back to the front door again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► about like an entire city block it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► crazy but the place is huge so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► actually at lining up at 6:00 I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► actually get in we did a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► like you know a line rearrangement once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► it became a giant mob so both Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► I advanced from where we remember we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► were waiting in line did you find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► notoriety and fame that people would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► know let you advance freely oh now once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► you get inside the hall you're not in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► line anymore you're in like kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► big mob right I have like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► tables on the side for you to connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► your laptop and plug in and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► Ahmet coffee or something like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► it became less of a line and more mob at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► once it was a mob we could move forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► a little bit we were still pretty far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► back but anyway we were far away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► Steve but we had a good position we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► picked one like where we could see one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► of the big screens but we could also see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► Steve at the same time anyway so he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► into the keynote um the first thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► started with was lion which I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► don't have anything to say about for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► podcast not because no you want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► it you've got to get control of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► brand the other thing is though nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► they showed at the keynote was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► that if you were a developer you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► already know about like the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► developer builds which were all under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► NDA or whatever but what they showed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► stage would only be new to you had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► not been a developer downloading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► line built in verse I had been telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► the lion build so they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► anything new like remember that lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► preview they gave way back went yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► right there were new stuff that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► the last time you saw a lion than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► saw things that were new but if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► been downloading the builds it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► yeah I know I've done that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► thing it was frustrating to me was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► every time they pull up the screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► know look how they moved that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► again and I had to redo all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► screenshots like hey Kevin they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► moving stuff around the UI like trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► cosmetic changes but it does mean I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► to go back and redo these screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► some of which were like carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► arranged to have you know just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► something that was frustrating but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► yeah lion was first it was it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► least there was no surprises there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► and then that went off fine and the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► one I think the next thing was was next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► thing was iCloud I think or maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► iOS Bob but iCloud was at the end it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► iOS 5 yeah I'm gonna talk about I caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► so I mean we are iCloud is weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► like they did that press release and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► they said we're gonna talk about iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► it was a Apple's upcoming cloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► offering do you remember that yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► tweeted that's like the most uh Napa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► like phrase I've ever read right so also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► like something Sun would say right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► the first part is upcoming since when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► does Apple ever tell you anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► up coming up coming right away on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► like they don't you know pre mount stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► like that and then cloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► offering what the hell does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► that's like a corporate Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► doublespeak BS that Apple absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► does not do ever and that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► call this thing so that was kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► know a low point I think for Apple PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► that you know the fact that they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► explain it all I agree with Gruber that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► they were just trying to once again set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► expectations that there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► be an iPhone on the stage right no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► hardware guy seriously this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► lion iOS 5 iCloud or I can tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► it is but we're going to tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► name and that's it so I believe they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► to set expectations but cloud service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► now as for iCloud we all know like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► you've been following helpful for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► time you know there was itools there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► Mac there was mobile me and no one liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► any of those things for varying reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► you know they weren't that successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► they had problems they were annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► services offering brings to my all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► it's gonna be kind of like what dot Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► mobile me all that stuff did but not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► crappy that was like the going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► show you know what it's going to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► the thing about these these cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► services things is that like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► Apple usually does stuff and Gruber had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► a good article about this I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► a back page of Mac world is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► create something create something simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► with like a clear purpose and message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► and then they approve it they iterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► they polish you know they don't sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► their laurels they don't make something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► then try to milk it for profits or ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► you know they put out version 1 version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► Joe and get better and better and refine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► and just you know and that process leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► you from like the original iPod to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► know going up to like the the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► like the gap between those two is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► humongous and it's just you know under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► the same product name iPod and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► they just iterated iterated and just at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► every opportunity like going from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► the mini to the Nano a big leap there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► from the now after that crazy whistle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► wristwatch thing and then on to iOS you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► these products benefit from iterative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► improvement now in the cloud space they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► haven't gotten that benefit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► they've sort of gone to a bunch of dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► ends like itools was kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► whatever and then got Mac was like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► first attempt but people didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► like it and then you know MobileMe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► like well okay let's try it again how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► and it's like no that's still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► sucky so it's like a series of false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► starts instead of say eye tools had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► off it awesome and they ate it on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► kept the brand name you know and by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► we have like I to eye tools version 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► now we don't get the benefit of apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► usual iteration on cloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► instead we get just a series of failures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► and so no matter how good I cloud is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► disappoints me that it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► fifth revision of some service you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► it's the first revision of some service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► now you know how much underlying stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► redesigned it under the covers it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► shame that in 2011 we are getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► very first you know iteration of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► product from Apple we have to wait like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► five years for it to get you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► good or whatever and it's like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► much farther behind today than we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► be if if they had gotten a clue about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► this cloud stuff so speaking of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► a clue the money diagram and the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► introduction again Gruber wrote about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► important thing they showed him that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► note was the slide where it showed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► Mac which was previously described as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► the digital hub like the place where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► connected all your stuff your grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► ibutton stuff like that was demoted from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► its place as the hub at the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► this diagram lower down to be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► another device in the bottom they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► iPods laptops and the Mac right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► what they put in its place it at the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► know the hub thing was you know iCloud a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► big metal cloud looking thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► Jobs if you would listen to it's not any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► of the previous shows where I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► about their online services and compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► to Google where Google's things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► server canonical where the source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► truth is on the current is on the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► Steve Jobs literally said on stage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► cloud is the source of truth you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► technical you know a term of art for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► people influencing this stuff and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► probably been embroiled in it enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► have picked up that term to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► yeah that's what he said was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► cloud is the source and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► is you know subordinate to that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► sounds like exactly what Google does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► it sounds exactly like what I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► asking for and the other thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► I think Gruber noted this first and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► picked it up as well later sessions was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► that throughout this entire thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► he would say here's the cloud here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► your devices follow blah he did not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► the S word sync he didn't say and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► document sync from the cloud down to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► your devices or and your and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► know put something here and it syncs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► to the cloud to say it's ask anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► who's in this industry to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► this cloud stuff they will say the S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► word at some point right and it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► like he was consciously avoiding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► because all of us were listening waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► for him to say that and he wouldn't he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► would pick a different we like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► updated from or pushed to or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► whatever they was like almost awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► like he was working around it and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► fact many people who he did eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► say sync because this is very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► to talk about this without saying sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► but the way he spoke about it was clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► he was trying not that we just slipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► up why why do you think it's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► not to say that well I'm I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► why I did eventually get it confirmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► from various sources that the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► message is try not to say sync right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► I think why they're not saying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► didn't give reasoning they just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► that yes that is actually a thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► not your imagination you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► crazy across the you know Steve can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► away with saying is who's going to yell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► it when he slips up but anyway the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► about sync is that sync is hard think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► it's difficult to implement and people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► experience with sync especially on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► Mac is not good like I sync doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► a good rep that Mac's sync with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► stupid conflict dialogue where you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► to pick something based on you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► sometimes you just see a big hex top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► the right left side you have to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► like that sync you know or you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► sync and you like double your contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► or screw something up you know it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► a bad rap it's a bad word people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► like to hear that you know mmm and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► the thing and the reason and this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► like just Apple screwing it up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► doesn't hurt but you know sync is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► hard period you know not everyone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► agree on what the right thing to do in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► situation where you have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► changes to something that are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► scattered throughout time like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► if you got to ruin people and say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► should this look like they can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► agree so how the hell can you implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► something in a computer program when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► right thing to do is and this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► formula for bad user experience you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► one that when the mental model of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► user does not match the computer model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► the user perceives that is bad user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► interface so if the user thinks X should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► happen and the computer has different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► model it makes Y happen the user is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► pissed off and like I said people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► going to all have different agreements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► you can never make a computer model of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► sync where everyone will agree with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► you know everyone will agree with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► the results and and the thing is like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► you if you throw this problem at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► computer scientist or you know cuz those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► are the people implementing it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► tell them to do synced like alright well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► you know what they'll do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► you know for this version control but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► software that's that's a you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► about sync of taking change from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► person another person merging them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► but if you were to implement that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► straightforward way things that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► that like are considered clean merges in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► a version control system for example a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► clean the you know three-way merge which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► is software developer can understand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► implemented and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► regular people have no idea what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► hell through emerges so you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► things like we have a single document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► like a single text file that's updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► by several different people in several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► something that is technically speaking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► clean merge of all those changes will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► result in from the users perspective a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► nonsensical document that never existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► in that state in any one place so as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► as they're concerned like what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► mean this is a clean merge of my changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► I never saw this document in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► when I went into this other computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► loaded my document up and what I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► there was not what I saw on computer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► not wanting so I've had it but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► weird conglomerate that I don't like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► on the other hand things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► not documents with records like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► contact people want mergers there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► because like I added the guys telephone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► number here and then when I saw them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► you know in person I added his email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► address on my iPod and then on my Mac I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► want to see those things merged right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► right so it's just it's really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► get to get sync right on this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► think that's why they wanted to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► the word and in the implementation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► octa which they didn't go into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► unfortunately I can't go into it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► it was NDA let's just say it operates in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► practice a little bit differently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► that diagram I guess I can't what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► yeah I guess I can talk about so in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► the keynote he was saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► server is a source of truth but all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► his discussion of I clouds especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► documents in the cloud and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► that later in the thing where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► showing diagrams with pictures moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► using the cloud and the devices it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► all about documents travelling between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► devices he would always say things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► I think this is a direct quote that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► my notices iCloud pushes documents to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► users devices automatically so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► sounds fine everything is like well he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► avoiding saying the words think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► just saying push but let's get back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► you know my thing where I talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► Google's model where the server is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► canonical Google doesn't talk in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► terms Google doesn't push anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► anywhere your document never leaves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► server like your Google Docs thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► your document is in the cloud you see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► when you view it on an application on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► one of your devices when you bring up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► web browser on whatever device you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► you are looking at the one and only copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► of that document that is in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► versus the way Apple talks about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► which is the the cloud pushes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► document down to all the devices as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► each document has a copy of that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► and your document is made in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► goes up to the cloud goes down to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► device down to that device down to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► device now it's kind of semantics it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► like what's the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► pushing the document from where I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► it up to the cloud and then pushing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► down to all of the other things versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► oh it was always in the cloud and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► just viewing it there well when you view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► it obviously the bits of the document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► are coming down but like there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► technical difference like in theory I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► mean this is not practically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► what goes on but in theory when you pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► up a document in Google Docs it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► just show you the first page of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► document and the only bytes that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► transferred from Google server to you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► the first page but the mental model that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► Apple is proposing is that when you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► a document on your Mac it gets pushed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► to the cloud and when you pop fire up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► your iPad that document the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► gets pushed down and you open in a pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► in your iPad and there's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► document right it's not like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► using pages it's not a viewer app for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► file that lives in the cloud pages is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► application that opens local files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► the iCloud magic makes that file you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► created they're also local over here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► see what I'm saying it's like no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► Holly it's a little bit especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► you get to down to like the bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► bytes it's just the term of semantics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► it's just a question of semantics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► just the words you use but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► think there's something there in term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► of how the two companies think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► things in terms of like who owns the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► importance of the server and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► that and the thing that occurs to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► when I look at that diagram that's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► the cloud at the top and devices on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► bottom is it the shape of that diagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► is artificial the cloud top the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► documents on the bottom like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► triangle you know whether the the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► is the source of truth say I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► you take all the items in a diagram and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► rearrange them there's nothing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► cloud that makes it well there is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► there are some things but nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► makes it special like it's more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► peer-to-peer relationship than it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► googles thing where the server has your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► document right it's more of a p2p thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► and it's especially true because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► talk about land sink which obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► Dropbox does like if you have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► machines that have Dropbox and you put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► new file in your Dropbox I you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► log on to your Dropbox on one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► and another computer has files that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► one doesn't have this one hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► turned on in a while instead of copying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► those files down from Dropbox it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► copy them over your land from your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► Mac because it's a lot faster to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► that document from the Mac that has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► been through all with the Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► servers you know what I mean now most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► people wouldn't say that Dropbox is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► peer-to-peer but right does that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► know they call it land syncing right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► in the relationship in that diagram if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► you turn on your iPad and it hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► turned on for a while and your Mac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► the other room has a new version of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► document your iPad is not going to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► iCloud and ask it for that document it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► going to get it directly from the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► over there over your LAN at least that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► was a sudden thing like it so it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► more peer-to-peer than it is server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► canonical Google type thing right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► technologically speaking there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► details now that I can't go into whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► that really is the case but just from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► from the diagram it's you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► the iCloud is a special peer it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► the same as all the other peers but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► seems almost kind of peer to peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► especially since the documents always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► moving around it's not like they live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► them on the cloud we look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► they're moving around you know and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► there are more technical details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► but I'd only go into it our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► sponsor today is Rackspace comm service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► leader in cloud computing if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► building an application chances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► email is a very important part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► you sign up for Rackspace Cloud Servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► you become eligible for a free SendGrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► account worth up to forty thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► emails per month a managing email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► deliverability is something that's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► it's a challenge to do this and now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► Rackspace and SendGrid you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► you don't have to manage it anymore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► can learn more about the Rackspace cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► services in general and more about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► special offer by going to Rackspace comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► um so mobile me mold me is dead Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► Nannes pretty much gone right and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► continue people can continue to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► to a certain degree all of the fine my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Mac or Find My iPhone iPod stuff will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► continue to work but how do you feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► the poor people who thought wow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► advance of iCloud I better sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► that MobileMe account bought one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► they can get refunds through some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► process and everyone's getting extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► to like 2012 June or something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► but the thing about isn't in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► he put that up on the stage and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► described iCloud at a high-level term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► and he said you know well how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► trust this isn't this from the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► company that brought us mobile me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► know which is usually you don't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► Apple saying that a product that existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► 10 seconds ago is a piece of crap but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► that's basically what they do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► sometimes they'll crap on their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► that were from years ago and say bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► things about them but the old me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► like right up until that keynote started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► it was their one and only you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► online service is offering and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► that keynote they just he just threw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► under the bus right right that was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► laugh line in the keynote right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► you know it's shocking to hear him say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► something like that only Steve Jobs can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► get away was saying something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► and we all kind of agree and it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► but then he went on not to really answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► that question you know how can you trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► his company brought your mobile me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► we got the laughs and it's like alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► so how can we we kind of tried to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► but like what boil down to is like trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► us we got to right this time we you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► that I guess the answer was we screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► up so bad we scribbs so bad the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► time we won't make that mistake well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► that was the third time charm but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► by them publicly acknowledging how awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► MobileMe was it was reassuring us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► yes we understand that we screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► that we did just fine before and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► understanding our grand vision and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► your people whose complaint like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► showing that they understood like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► supposed to give us the faith that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► would do something better and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► help a little bit but there was no like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► well let me tell you exactly why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► going to be different this time so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► terms of the iCloud stuff you know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► see again maybe fourth time is the charm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► but the questions I have for mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► media though aren't answered anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► that I found I've been trying to read on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► it as much as I could in between doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► galleries that you put up from iPhoto or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► I websites you know what about the iWeb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► application all that business where does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► that stuff go because I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► stuff back from you know dotmac homepage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► and then I have I web pages and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► have you know I photo galleries and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► mean I forgot again to the iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► application right so what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► happen to that stuff does that stay up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► there forever is it get decommissioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► after you know June 30th 2012 and Hubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► me goes away what happens if you tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► in iPhoto try to say you know upload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► this I you know this MobileMe gallery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► thing does it not work does it say sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► even though you have this program and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► used to do this MobileMe is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► gone now so tough luck right and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► way if you have pictures there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► all gone no answers for that so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► judging by how they decommissioned Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► homepage I'm I don't have great hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► that they're going to help us preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► our stuff in any particular way so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► kind of depressing at least iWeb I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► you can export it to an FTP server and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► think you're an exporter does local HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► or something like that so you won't lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► your stuff but I don't know we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► use for the equivalent that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► reason I use iWeb which is an awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► awful program you should never use it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► the way but the reason I use it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► because it integrates our my family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► rather use it as integrates with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► iLife applications and someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► doesn't know any HTML can just drag a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► bunch of images out write a little blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► post and you know and put it on its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► I think my wife in particular now has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► more than enough skills to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► use like a flash uploader like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► when you know Shutterfly or facebook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► whatever to do the same thing but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► back when we started doing this it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► just easier to say all right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► how iPhoto works well here's all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► iPhoto stuff and just drag it onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► page versus using one of those stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► uploader things you know so I'll be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► of sad to see the idea of an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► is this a guarantee that iWeb is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► away I mean I just assumed I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► it's hosted on mobile me hosting and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► part of the iCloud offering was like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► we'll host web pages for you like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► never said that at any point you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► there were there were a lot and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► people have emailed us or asked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► Twitter you know what what is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► happen with that I did dug up early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► that little article from Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► basically said you know this is good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► another couple months but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► doesn't really answer any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► questions do you think that the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► of people that were actually just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► those services whether it's iWeb or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► whatever kind of hosting that there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► weren't enough people doing it to matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► to Apple that that they felt like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► only few people use it so we can get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► of it well I think they just want clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► breaks like their apples always big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► about the clean break and I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► disdain the job show for mobile me he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► wants that out of his sight out of mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► stops like yeah I firstly yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► right I don't think there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► people using I don't think there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► lot of people using mobile me period and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► is even a smaller fraction was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► these particular services and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► already shown with that Mac home page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► when they decommission that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► mind telling people like you got six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► months to get your crap out of there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► then we're just gonna take it offline we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► don't care where you go but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► stay here you know that they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► with that and with moldy homepage or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► with Mac homepage I think they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► do the same thing with with mobile meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► but the jury's still out because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► haven't said anything one way or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► other and they have you know until June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► 2012 to decide what they're gonna do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► maybe the most likely they haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► decided yet you know this one the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► site about iCloud iCloud is free it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► a phrase used often he was the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► keynote transition with the big giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► free word comes down and smashes the $99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► from mobile mates and you get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► email contacts and calendar syncing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► everybody for free how Lou you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► Tom Mac and MobileMe were so horrible we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► had to pay $99 a year and you can add an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► additional email address for like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► anyway 10 dollars for an email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► right but then that person wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► able to sync their email contacts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► calendar there would only Stoney be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► eye disk you know so like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► so I could sink my stuff but my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► could unless we bought the family plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► which is like 150 bucks it was just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► right but when he said iCloud is free I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► tweeting at the time like you know uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Apple thinks iCloud is so good they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► gonna make you pay for you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► kept waiting for the other shoe to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► and so they went through this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► thing of like well there's three other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► apps and then three more apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► there's documents in the cloud and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► stuff but I was like no Apple has to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► paid right then I couldn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► out of the goodness of their heart there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► has to you know it's not charity and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► doesn't do ad supported stuff and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► some point they explicitly said on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► the way in our mail there's no ads like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► so sticking it to Google you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► it's not ad supported isn't it and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► telling you all this stuff is free how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► are they going to get money right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► finally the very very end and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► it was super clever because I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► predict this the way the way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► going to get paid to say iCloud is free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► but you know what cost 25 bucks a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► iTunes Match right and they give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► different name and it's like well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► it's vaguely related to iCloud but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► iCloud is free you see iTunes Match is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► $25 but items matches you know it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► incredibly attractive because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► the only company that did the deals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► the record companies it's like legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► free and clear and by the way we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► upload all your crazy music that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► can't match which was my big concern I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► thought there's no way in hell they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► would do that I don't know how they song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► that was I was like how how is iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► Match going to help me because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► things like you know anime soundtracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► are like video game music remixes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► are never ever ever going to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► iTunes music store and they are never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► gonna Majan that's what I listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► lot of the time these really obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► things that you know nobody else likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► slow you know knows about or has up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► store somewhere is it just like a sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► of modem connecting or something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► listen to you don't well you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► you're not a really a video gamer but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► you're a gamer you have emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► connections to theme songs from video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► games I can count I'm on the same page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► right and so so piece are you listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► to like the Frogger scene theme song or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► dying or something well you start from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► that premise of like you know the 8-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► music with the bleeps and the boobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► then people do remixes or orchestral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► arrangements or combinations like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► leo C remix that I think is org letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► overclocked remix org is a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► that's just filled with videogame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2518">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► remixes and anime soundtracks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► you're watching anime that you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► there you have interesting soundtracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► in the Mario or even just things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► movie soundtracks iTunes doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► everything and they have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► whatever 18 million songs they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► have everything but if you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► that's what you're into this week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► you listen to you know a new soundtrack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► or new but remix or even like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► there's illegal mashups you find online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► from the best of Booty and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► that they're not going to be on iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► or because they're all completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► illegal but they're great some weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► that's what I'm listening to right so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► iTunes Match had no solution to that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► wouldn't be very good well they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► you know so they will not upload the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► stuff they can match that's that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► big selling point you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► wouldn't take me a week over FiOS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► for regular people it's going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► them a long time to jam all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► they said no Apple will just scan your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► stuff match it and say or I found that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► down there yeah we've got that for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► in the cloud found that down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► you've got the 40 on the cloud and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► stuff they didn't find they'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► incredibly attractive offer to get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► music you buy anywhere any music you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► ripped from your CDs anything anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► in your iTunes library you can listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► and you just give us 25 bucks a year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► it's recurring revenue I'm sure out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► that 25 bucks the record companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► getting paid Apple's getting paid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► don't think it's covering their costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► but I think they finally have have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► become good come to peace becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► terms with the idea that online is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► be a bit of a cost center for them okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► I remember talking to somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► mobled me way back when when I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► some some really nasty thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► mobile me because it was pissing me off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► and someone from the MobileMe team was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► talking to me and I asked does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► MobileMe team have to make money like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► are they responsible for you know profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► and loss or whatever now there was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► fortune story recently that said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► people inside Apple are not responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► for profit and loss really within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► departments but it's still an awareness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► of like are you expected to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► like at the end of the day like or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► know and the MobileMe guy said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► we're you know we're expected to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► cover our costs you know it's not again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► it's not a charity right but that five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► hundred million dollar datacenter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► all the bandwidth and all the stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► that there's no way I can show this away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► maybe I don't know what their numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► are like do they think enough people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► gonna sign up for iTunes Match at 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► bucks a year that's going to pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► whatever they have to pay to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► record labels plus cover all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► hosting costs for the free iCloud I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► don't know I haven't done the math on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► it doesn't it seems to you like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► enough money oh it's definitely oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► money but here so here's a question but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► something I just want to address and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► if you know the answer if you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► able to deduce the answer and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► let's say you do this iTunes Match right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► you pay your twenty five bucks yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► let's say you've got I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► what's a reasonable amount of gigs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► music to have five ten I don't know say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► today it stands one twenty twenty yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► so you go through and you you you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► through and it finds data you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► finds says oh I I can get 85% of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► you pay your twenty five bucks now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► you've got you know whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► fifteen gigs are more in the cloud now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► you can download that to your iPad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► can download that to your iPhone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► other Mac's right all from the cloud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► then you're actually maybe even getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► higher bitrate higher quality music than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► you might have ripped it yeah I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► to mention that yeah they also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► they match the song they're not matching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► the file so if you have a crappy version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► of a song they've got a better one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► let you listen to that right so you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► have ripped it at 64 for uh you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► knows 128 who knows what you did right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► and they're gonna know we'll give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► this high-quality one so here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► question let's say that the Year comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► up and you say ah I can't afford it or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► don't want to renew or I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► using this you keep those tracks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► or do they go away do they get taken for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► good you keep which tracks alright with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► 256 is yeah are they still in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► iCloud for you are they still in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► iCloud are they still stand down on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► devices and they're yours once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► them I'll have to try that I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► because I haven't actually tried it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► but here's my thing about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► previous discussion about what iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► actually does that it's actually making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► a date the data move around between your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► devices versus we've got one copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► your data it's in the cloud and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► view it or stream it from that location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► now I would imagine that it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► send you like you know the whole 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► kilobyte AAC file right like if for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► example if you were to go on to a brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► new device you just bought an iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► you you know start listening to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► and iCloud it's not gonna be streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► it from iCloud you know it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► eventually I would assume copy all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► songs down to your I'm just again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► just speculating but like based on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► in the cloud everything else works it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► seems to me that no I wouldn't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► like iTunes Match has to be necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► anyway related to documents in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► but just based on their idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► pushing document between it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► you would have the file and it's DRM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► free and I suppose they could try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► yank it away from you but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► so I think everything that happens stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► and I think if you were to stop paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► all you would lose is that now when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► buy a song in your iPhone it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► suddenly appear on your Mac like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► what you're losing right right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► losing that synchronization so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► so much about you know because you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► already had the rights to that one song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► like even if it wasn't something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► iTunes Store like assume you you ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► something from a CD that Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► own you know that's your song you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► already put it on your iPhone your iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► your iPad you can already do that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► right so it's not in something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► you're getting all you're getting is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► you don't have to do it manually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► don't have to synchronize all your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► and copy it around and it will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► through this intermediary point and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► it for you so I'm assuming you keep all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► that stuff and and if they upgraded you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► I'm assuming you keep the upgrades but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► we're all just guessing it's they'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► to be able to keep them it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► just seems like the way Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► things is we copy your stuff around from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► place to place not we have one copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► it that you can access sometimes then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► take away your access right so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► transitions nicely into what iCloud is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► definitely not doing I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► this is in the keynote it's just in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► notes but one thing is the only not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► doing is storing all your data so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► example it is not backing all your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► up right even though they said it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► backups for your iPhone and if you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► your phone just go to a new phone typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► username password and all your stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► there when they say all your stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► if you look at the size of your iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► backup you know your iphones backup in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► itunes like look you know it's in i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► don't know somewhere into like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► library application support something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► other music whatever the backups are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► only a couple hundred Meg's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► they're not making a separate copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► all your music because that's already in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► your iTunes library they're not making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► separate copy of all the iPhoto stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► that sync there but that's already the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► iPhoto library they're only backing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► application specific data you happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► have in your phone that's not actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► lot so when they say they're backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► your phone they're not like they're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► backing it up enough to restore its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► state to the way it was so I I doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► they're you know for example they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► all the iTunes music that's on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► phone because that would be gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► because they know they can get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► again down from you know they can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► from synchronizing through your Mac up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► through the cloud down to your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► thing or through iTunes Match or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► other type of service alright and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► certainly not letting you shove all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► iPhoto library up there and I think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► people's Macs iPhoto library is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► largest consumer of disk space that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► certainly true online you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► that photo stream thing they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► only stores photos for 30 days and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► synchronizing down stuff then only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► synchronize a thousand of those for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► latest a thousand photos down to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► iPad and your iPhone and your Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► so if your Mac blows up and you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► your crap is not an iCloud it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► you're not saved by a Glock you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► buy a new Mac plug it and put in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► iCloud information and get all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► stuff back you absolutely do not unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► I guess you have less than thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► photos all of which have been taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► last 30 days you know what I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► thing that you're really Sol at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► point yes so that's listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► don't assume iCloud stopped you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► have to do backups goals do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► that will change do you think that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► change do you think that they'll they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► have an add-on whether it's five bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► something that says yeah all you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► you have to charge for that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► right now they're pushing they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► adoption and like he was saying we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► to make it free so everybody will use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► now there is a five gigabyte limit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► stuff in the cloud and that only that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► includes things like mail documents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► and backups but not like again they mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► your phone backups the backup of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► the minimum amount of stuff they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► restore your phone when they can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► other stuff from other locations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► that five gigabytes does not include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► photo streams so it doesn't include your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► 30 days for the photos it does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► include purchased music I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► that extra adjective there means that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► does include music so you didn't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► through the iTunes store does that count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► towards your quota I don't know doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► include it doesn't include purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► music apps or books so those all do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► count towards your quota so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► possibly your unpurchased music counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► towards your quota but the thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► five gig limit even though they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► say is in the keynote very quickly from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► you know press and various other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► asking Apple Apple was pretty open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► saying you will be able to pay for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► space we just haven't decided and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► pricing it and of course I'll say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► it'll be very competitive and blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► blah so even the a they're not backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► up your stuff and B the stuff they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► letting you put on there has a 5 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► if you want more than that now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► know if it'll be like a monthly thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► yearly or what it'll be like but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► kind of like Dropbox you know where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► you can stay under the cap it's free if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► you go over you got to pay and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► want to see what their pricing is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► be like on that but let's just reiterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► this I mean you kind of set it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► people who I think we're thinking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► hoping that iCloud was going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► Dropbox killer it Dropbox really doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► have anything to be concerned about at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► this point because the only way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► can store data from an application on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► iCloud is if that application supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► and uses the iCloud API to do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► what that means is if you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► anything and I work for example and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► was the one they were talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► most which is probably the only one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► can do this right now in other words you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► launch pages you have iCloud set up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► create a document it's just there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► up there on the cloud whenever you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► a change it's pushed up there if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► grab your iPhone or your iPad and launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► pages on that you'll see that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► document if you make changes it's up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► the cloud to you'll see those on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► computer etc but in order to so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► like Dropbox where that's just a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► what do you want to put in there put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► whatever you want in there organize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► however you want to and it'll get synced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► up and down and everywhere that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► Dropbox this is not like that you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► don't have I'm sure somebody will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► eventually come up with some kind of app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► to do this but as it stands right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► you don't have just a folder to throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► stuff into you have an application which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► has its own understanding of files that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► it manages which it handles pushing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► and pulling from the iCloud service yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► positioning because they definitely said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► we didn't want to just do a better I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► diss contrasting but they basically said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► we didn't want to make a big directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► full of stuff that we synchronized now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3178">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► it's interesting that they said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► because one of the reasons people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► Dropbox I think is this their slogan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► is this someone else who's talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► Dropbox but they're saying why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► Dropbox succeed you know because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► made maybe was Joel Spolsky you set all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► this like they didn't people didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► like some really complicated thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► just wanted a folder that syncs its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► folder on my desktop I put stuff in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► syncs and anytime I said yeah but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► about this what about you know having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► ability to partition things off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► share things involve law and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► Dropbox did it some of those features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► but it's like no it's a folder that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► it's simple people can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► folders and Dropbox has been wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► successful so I was interesting to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► Apple say we do not want to make you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► folder that syncs despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► brain-dead folder that syncs everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► loves it we're not making that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► because they didn't want there to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► some other thing that you learn Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► Jobs kept hammering home saying it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► the applications there's no new thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► learn you just have like a new button in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► your applications I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► smart and typically Apple where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► as simple as Dropbox is it's a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► that sync they know that there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► understand folders period you know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► leaves there docker somehow they lose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► on the desktop they don't know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► hell anything is anymore like no it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► your applications you know but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► what else you know what else this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► is it also and maybe this is you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► think Apple thinks about this thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► you look at the average size of a Pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► document now keynote is certainly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► to be bigger but you know if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► about the size of your average pages or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► numbers documents they're not that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► they're way different from what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► are doing on Dropbox and in a way yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► you know they are doing a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► with music and iCloud but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► kind of a different story as far as just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► data like you could upload you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► ISO of some large game or operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► system or whatever it was and and upload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► things to iCloud and just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► dominate the space even if you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► pay for it I just feel like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► doesn't want to be in that business they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► want to say they want to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► service that's 100 percent supportive of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► envision us using them or a third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► or a third party a party app a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► party API but the thing I was getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► with positioning though yeah under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► covers like bottom line it's not magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► there's some directory somewhere with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► computer and go up to the cloud you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► like as you said someone thinking coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► with an app like this there's a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► somewhere that syncs is what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► right you know or multiple folders or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► like there's no avoiding you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► there's no magic happen here the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► system Silla file system the trick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► that users don't ever have to know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► see that folder like it's invisible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► them they never have to deal with it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► not like Dropbox but but practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► speaking the difference between Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► you know documents in the cloud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► Dropbox is just tiny details of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► what is the particular protocol that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► use how do you do your diffs you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► how do you deal with the data versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► metadata stuff like that you know is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► was actually an implementation very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► similar to Dropbox in terms of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► the high-level view of what actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► happens you know about getting into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► particular details but it's you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► genius of Apple is to figure out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► it's not a technical problem it's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► of framing it and if we could just frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► it in this different way the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► the underlying implementation is broadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► similar to Dropbox does not mean that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► have to present a product that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► anything like Dropbox and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► really smart I thought now the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► thing that burned me in the the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► thing is that they went through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► whole thing and still no didn't address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► in any way at all the problem that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► talked about in the NOAA iLife is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► island episode for the people who didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► hear that the basic idea is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► families use iLife you know the husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► takes picture of the kid the wife takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► a picture of the kid but the wife can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► sync her iPhone wife's iPhone syncs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► her computer but the husband's iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► syncs to his computer but the iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► libraries on the husband's computer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► then we had to copy the photos from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► wife's computer to the husband's but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► she made annotations on them there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► eight of them that maybe those don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► drink it's they're like silos of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► you put stuff when when families take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► pictures there's like a family you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► a family photo album that's not dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► photo well my mom thought well um so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► what happens when you have when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► these people who are the best customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► of Apple who have multiple Macs in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► house and everybody has a Mac right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► that you know they their stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► stranded where yeah on our particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► thing and you have to end up like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► if you're disciplined say okay dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► computer is the iPhoto computer and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► everyone's iPods have to sync with dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► computer all on the same account and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► you have any pictures on any of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► cameras plug it into dad's computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► put them there and that will be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► family I've you know finally iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► computer and that's not practical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► punishing apples backs customers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► with the photostream thing is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► still in silos mom takes pictures of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► kids and they instantly sync up to mom's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► iCloud and down to mom's iPhoto library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► dad takes pictures they go up to dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► iCloud down to dad's iPhoto library you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► still have these silos of pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► it's like no recognition of how real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► people in the real world are using their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► oh so that really annoyed me I continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► to wait for that like like I said in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► show and when I first came out it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► yeah well it's obvious what they missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► here is that there's no good way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► families to use this but back then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► was like well how many Macs are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► house not many people have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► computers so and so forth but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► version 2 came out in version 3 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► what over the years they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► skipped a couple years here and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► just version for what I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► number we're up to on my life but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► way way overdue to have that ability for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► either the iLife suite to work the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► families do and it really hurts to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► this brand new awesome cloud thing come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► out and still be stuck in silos like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► this was your opportunity to unify make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► a new version of my life that works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► us have like a shared cloud you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► no still silos so I now continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► patiently wait for Apple to address the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► new my life is an island thing I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► predictions of what that's going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► or not I will just continue to patiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► wait as I have been for many years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► the final thing I have an iCloud is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► after all this stuff they said a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► things that sounded right a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► people were tweeting when it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► like this is exactly what John was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► talking about of the hyper creping with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► the cloud at the top and said the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► is a source of truth like isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► exactly what you were asking for as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► hope I expressed before I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► a disconnect between what Google does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► and what Apple was saying it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► despite the fact that there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► underlying similarities this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► different philosophy and actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► think a different a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► different technical reality going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► here but aside from that it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► better than than the idea they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► before which was this crappy hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► dollar thing with one account that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► didn't scale the families that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► thing I glad I was done at least give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► everyone you know their own contacts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► email and stuff like that so I applaud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► them for that even if it's not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► the model the Google uses and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► held up is the ideal situation but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► all comes down to speed and reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► time there trying this you know this can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► all be great everything shoot can be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► know the big data center say you you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► love exactly how they describe that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► want everything that works like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► if it's slow or unreliable or screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► things up or you know eggs for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► duplicates all your contacts or wipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► them all out and you can't figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► what's going on because something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► happening in a service you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► control of that's going to be a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► and I'm gonna say like 50 percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► this 50 percent of this at least is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► reliability speed and historically Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► has just not been good with those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► and it's a lot of the reason why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► like me like Google because you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► UI is clunky and sometimes it's ugly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► they do weird things and there are ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► but their servers are up there fast they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► scale it's not like Twitter where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► know there was a dark period of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► years where Gmail was constantly down no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► they Google has their act together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► this regard and thus far Apple has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► so I am I'm cautiously pessimistic let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► say I'm still fearing the worst but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► there is hope so you know we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► have to see what it's like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► again I haven't actually used this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► I mean too busy don't need a new hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► you would say is that safe to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► have a new hope I don't know if I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► say that it also like thanks Shopify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► comm for making this show possible they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► are great supporter of hypercritical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► our other shows Shopify is the absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► best way to sell anything online I for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► people who are designers you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► ahead and customize the whole thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► HTML and CSS and make it look exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► like your website and if you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► designer and don't even want to mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► with that stuff you can pick from one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► their really awesome pre-designed themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► it'll make your site look like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► spent a year making it awesome you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► of course customize it later if you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► like it and this is a great thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► totally secure you don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► about managing SSL Certificates they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► it all for you they just make it simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► it's the easiest way to do it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► normally they give you the first month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► free which is great do you think 30 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► free to try it out that that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► nice but because you're affine by 5:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► listener we're going to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► extra special for you go to Shopify calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► and when you sign up use the code five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► by five and you will get three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► free I love Shopify you'll love it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► that's all got an iPod you know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► else on iCloud no you've you certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► covered it I mean I think it it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► is something that for the average person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► not the Nerds like us and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► listen to this show really but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► regular human beings who are going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► there and buying a new computer and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► want to use it and oh I this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► cool it just saves all my stuff up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► and it's everywhere and oh that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► and they don't they don't really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► that's who Apple really has in mind they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► don't have us in mind for this I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► saying that we won't use it or that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► not they don't think we'll like it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► that they have the regular human beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► in mind not they near the Nerds people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► who don't subscribe to mummies are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► target audience for AI class because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► right people who don't know yes as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► said from the people talking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► people the Apple stars mold me is a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► sell they do not sell a lot of copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► MobileMe who buys mold me in a deep do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► you subscribe to know me I was a mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► me subscriber for I guess about a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► and just I hate to say it I just got fed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► up with it and it was too expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► I realized that I could sink a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► the same things that were important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► me I really wasn't like a bookmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► sinker that just wasn't me but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► like keeping the address-book stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► sync and you know it really that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► I was mainly focusing on was that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► said you know what I can now address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► book support syncing with Google and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► just synced with Google instead and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► works great and it's been working great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► and I don't have to pay 99 bucks in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► year even you're not using it but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► you know I've been using it forever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► know I would have gotten offered if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► could but you know I think rivers still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► using it you know a lot of nerds Mac Big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► Mac nerds used MobileMe but iCloud is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► 100% targeted the people who never could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► basically the people you know smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► than us or you know like for example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► so kept subscribing just because I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► your Jimbo which is an application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► no one has even heard of in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► regular world and it uses mobile need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► synchronize across computers and I rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► on that app so I would pay $99 just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► that app alright as interesting to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► what's gonna happen to that app I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► assume it will have to adopt the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► services but since iCloud is free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► since I'm the one who doesn't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► wait patiently for bare bones to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► your Jimbo for iCloud and I love it see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► I for the record I even though there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► well I don't know if they say if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► advise against it but there's a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► way that you can use yo Jimbo with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► Dropbox there are some precautions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► you need to take if you do it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► yeah yeah I know I've looked into that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► just you know I do I don't I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► to have to think about that but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► know I used to use it with the MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► yep and it's it's better with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► but we'll have to see alright so iOS 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► on I get this through you have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► to say about it you know you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3898">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► have an iPhone you're right but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► have a little bit it's not as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► the iCloud stuff that was the media but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► although there is some iCloud tie-in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► well see what I've talked about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► first the notifications so yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► apples playing catch-up here everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► the thing about notifications and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► of the reason they took something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► long I always thought was that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► that they can't Apple kind of paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► itself into a corner with the iOS UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► like they figured it out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► everything is going to work like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► iPhone one and with very few exceptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► like they've stuck to that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► little status bar top the application is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► you know there's tab bars navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► bars so on so forth as an on-screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► keyboard no physical buttons except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► the home button stuff like that but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► you notice a bazillion apps the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► Store is huge everybody loves it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► very successful but all those apps out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► there like there's no place to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► notifications UI you know so they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► that big blue box over the screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► everything's going on is it put the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► where are they going to find a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► put those notifications now palms webOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► is you know often cited as having great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► notifications because they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► persistent they're easy to get to they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► have a they have a nice display and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► actions available for each one and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► you know especially back when Palm webOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► 1.0 came out they were the king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► notifications you know unified across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► everything like that but webOS from day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► applications on webOS expect to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► notification stuff comes up from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► bottom of the topic can't remember or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► the applications display area gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► squished and the application had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► aware of that and you know rejigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► themselves to make sure their UI is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► still like if it's just a single screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► or something make sure everything still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► yeah but iOS apps aren't like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► expect to have from the status bar down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► sometimes not even the status bar what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► are you going to do for you I like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► do you pull up the notifications they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► already use double tap on the one button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► they've got the triple tap the tap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► hold they've used pretty much all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► combinations that I've described for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► various things you know and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► volume buttons like what are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► use to bring up notifications and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► difficult to see where they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► go the status bar up top it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► filled with stuff you got the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► compass icon for locations and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► signal strength and the Wi-Fi indicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► in little words 18 T or Verizon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► that's that's already kind of full and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► it's not a great tap target and already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► when you tap that target it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► to bring you to the you know the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► the documents right so and it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► too much to ask you know if you said if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► Apple said okay notifications are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► to squish up from the bottom and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► please rewrite all your apps to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► the fact that we're gonna squish your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► viewport now to be you know smaller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► right so the solution which I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► kind of chuckle at when can when I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► notification look because they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► want to put the big blue blocks over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► your screen so they have the guy plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► you know cut the rope during the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► thing I said watch I'm going to San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► notification it's not going to interrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► them like so what the hell's is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► well they just take the top you know 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► pixels or 48 pixels I don't know how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► it is they just take the top stripe off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► the screen from the app and they steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► it sorry app you're not getting those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► pixels anymore the OS taking them over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► and we rotate it around and we show your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► notification and the app still thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► it's displaying stuff there it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► doo-doo-doo I've got the whole screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► and the OS is just simply stolen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► I mean transiently obviously the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► notification goes away and it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► dismissed but if I was playing a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► and a notification came and look you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► keep playing your game not if that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► just covered up like the next wave of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► enemies coming down in the little you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► know shooter game that I'm doing or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► was doing I am conversation or an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► and I just covered up the message from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► the guy that just came in you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► understanding is that and I believe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► showed this is you can choose what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► occasions you say maybe you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► chose choose what kind of notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► you receive per app perhaps yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► putting controls on that is good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► that's in the end that was their answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► notifications like if your wife is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► whatever it is you're doing but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► likes to blue boxes because they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► so heavyweight so they try to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► lighter weight so even if you had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► fine grain control of what you allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► to go through this is this is the way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► which you will be notified sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► asynchronously whenever a notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► happens and how much less annoying it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► you to you then the blue box will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► determine how much you want to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► the second thing that your motivation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► obviously is the big problem the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► box this is the exactly dismiss it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► something they're gone there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► persistence which is just inexcusable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► notifications persistently and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► they have the question of how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► persistent notification so we have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► to the home screen and pick an app is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► something in the DoubleTap multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► thing that I have to scroll to the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► like where the screen brightness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► stuff is and you know the iPad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► whatever their solution to that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► swipe down from the top which as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► understand I'm not an Android person but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► apparently us exactly what Android it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4198">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► exactly what entrance yeah and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► about that is that's a move that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► definitely be better with a palm OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► style palm OS with a palm style gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► area you know what I mean only has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► gesture area in the bottom if the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► iPhone had a gesture area where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► blank black thing is where it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► housing the FaceTime camera right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► and I guess the speaker for your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► they could put a gesture area in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► black part to give you a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► runway for that gesture because again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► you accidentally hit that status bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► like you try to do a swipe but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► registers that tap on the status bar you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► just zoom to the top of the document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► your reading in Safari or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► and Marco actually added us an explicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► featured instigator which is great where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► if you tap the top bar they say did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► really mean to go to the top or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► want to go back to where you are and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► blessed that feature every time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► accidentally happen so I can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► notifications real quick now you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► that top black area where the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► FaceTime macrophage time camera is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► your runway for swiping and that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► help you do a clean swipe but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► detecting your finger until it hits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► status bar so this will have to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► this how how much of a problem this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► actually is uh but I do think that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► have been rumors of Apple adding gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► areas to their phones or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► that's the that's like the only place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► left on this device because I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► don't want this all I don't want to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► more buttons so what else can you add to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► this thing well they do have those black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► regions on the top and bottom that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► currently mostly inert and they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► make them sense touch in a way that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► it's a nice to have but the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► doesn't rely on it and maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► maybe just helps with that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► gesture may tell them that don't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► we're do that you say that but they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► uh I mean there was the rumors of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► ditching the home button and making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► touch I think that is more crazy than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► adding gesture because the gesture area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► say you you never know it's there don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► know it exists they could still use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► in subtle ways to figure out the intent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► of the user pulling at their device you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► don't I mean doesn't need to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► interface element like a button that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► interact with hmm that you're conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► of it can just be something that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► it makes the phone feel more magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► like how did it know that was my intent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► well actually we're sensing your fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► even when they're off the screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► know what I mean all right uh what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► on iOS PC free that's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► coming cutting the tether no need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► plug this thing into your computer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► not just the set up thing that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► they said if it's a shame when you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► this device you have to plug it in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► this is the post PC era why do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► to plug it in but just everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► over-the-air updates over and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► iCloud related because even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► they talked about this before iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► actually but it was clear that to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► something that's always on that is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► thing that your phone syncs with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► that's basically iCloud or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► iCloud is an umbrella terms the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► of things that are behind that month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► that name technically speaking are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► different services many of which have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► absolutely nothing to do with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► described with iCloud and so in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► case I OS 5 is the magical thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► yeah but it's talking to things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► under the umbrella of iCloud but being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► able to over-the-air updates of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► of applications having your application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► sync but just not having a plug in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► stupid dock connector hallelujah and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► did a show about the dock connector and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► how much I hate it and this means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► dock connector can slowly it can finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► something that charges the iPhone maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► thunderbolt port and the charges to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► think because once you can do all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► syncing then alright but they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► there are still people who will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► want to sync with a connection there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► people who might not have I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► weird also no one wants to sync with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► connection the real thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► there's an ecosystem of devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► connect every net remember that syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► won't happen unless you've got power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► plugged into it it won't sink without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► that it won't you won't like how you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► and on your other eye on your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► iPhone or and your other ipod touch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► understanding is that maybe I got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► wrong so I'm you know I don't need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► email about it but you can tell me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► can tell us my understanding though was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► that in order for you to do that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► syncing that it wants to be plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► when you're doing the syncing like power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► I'm not positive that that's required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► in every event you know what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► max will yell at you if you try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► software update and then shell again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► like if you have laptop it'll say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► you know this might take a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► it's going to burn a lot of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► because we to use your disk you're sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► you don't want to plug in Sawle right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► can imagine them having something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► that area but the key point is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► don't have to pull the data over the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► cable anymore they can do over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► Wi-Fi wouldn't it be much much faster to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► pull data over USB than it always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► it will I mean what if what if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► a camping I don't know what's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► that what's the 802 11 n versus if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► you're on a camping trip and and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► forgot to you know you downloaded some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► podcasts and you want to convert you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► know you want to get them on your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► iPhone and you're too far from a signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► to get it and you don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► set up a network that's a laptop because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► you don't know how to do it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► should land sync them and if it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► land sync them it's use airdrop the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► peer-to-peer Wi-Fi ad-hoc connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► between you know all I'm saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► they're still people there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► edge cases out there people who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► want to do it the old-fashioned way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► don't I mean like like sided I just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► plug-in dock connectors not going away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► just because there's so many products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► certainly that's that'll remain the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► thing they ship what the thing is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► to be dock connector cable it someone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► the chatroom points out that the PC free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► thing has a lot to do with also that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► people aren't syncing their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► anymore don't know where he's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► this information from but anecdotally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► you can imagine if someone will buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► iDevice iPod and iPad an iPhone plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► in when they first get it and then never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► plug it into the computer ever again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► only thing they ever plug it into is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► connector thing to charge it it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► touches their Mac again and they do buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► all their stuff on it they watch netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► on it to download apps on Apple II never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► ever connected their computer again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► I know people who do this I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► what the percentages are but but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► true that it does happen and all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► knew that was just kind of perverse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► these devices that are supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► post-pc devices are so reliant on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► PC so thumbs up for PC free I guess we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► will have to try it and see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► reality is and how what things still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► require being plugged in for and how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► know untethered you can really go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► you know I messages I said I message DRI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► messages I have it singular here but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► think I think it's iMessage but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► know people know what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► oh yeah I've heard I've even heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► called AI messenger yeah I just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► eye touch right so I don't think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► think it matters but this is great this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► BlackBerry's messaging thing my question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► for you is are we going to get a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► client for this or is it going to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► work with our chatter FaceTime please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► I'm gonna say it's so hard to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► because like they made FaceTime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► you're like but why is this a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► app why doesn't this why didn't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► make I chat support this so you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► we've got FaceTime and now we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► iMessage so it's three non-interoperable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► you know I don't understand what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► messaging strategy here I mean I love I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► love the fact that you have this on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► any iOS device I mean it's it's genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► it's pure genius because all of us hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► paying money for text messaging it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► ridiculous this has everything it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► attachments it has everything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► could possibly want and it's it's genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► and it doesn't cost anything and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► carrier's heard about it apparently at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► the same time we did when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► watching or reading about the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► they were just as surprised as us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► it's genius it's a great thing for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► why isn't there and I'm not give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► Matt Klein ID you know what don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► that I like I get that they may maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► don't announce it immediately but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► should they should say and this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► coming to Mac sometime soon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► just do yeah I don't know if the Mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► is they consider the Mac participating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► in that little family like they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► people with why not that iPhones iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► Touch why not it because this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► replacement for texting not for I am you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► know what I mean I think they see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► like but here's the thing if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► understand conceptually speaking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► you shouldn't care I should work at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► yeah just let me message him and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► regardless of where he is what device is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► on but or I'm gonna gank incorrectly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► believe Apple sees this as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► people text from portable devices people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► don't text from desktop and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► different world in whatever they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► gotten the I mean if they clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► haven't gotten the clue because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► separation i chat and FaceTime i gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► does video an hour but how can they this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► understand John how can they get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► wrong I mean they're they're so right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► so many things especially in I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► know I whenever I see something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► corporate sickness like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► haven't quite gotten their acts together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► too many people go in too many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► directions and I always think with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► sort of org chart reason for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► things to be all my stuff like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► it's going to take someone a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► higher in the org chart to demand some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► sort of coalescing at some point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► future because I would imagine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► iMessage team's mandate was SMS like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► speaking of SMS talking so we did it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► did a show about this it wasn't whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► show about it but at some point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► complained about SMS maybe it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► my-y I don't have an iPhone episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► uh and a lot of people were sending me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► messages and emails during the show it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► like this keynote is all stuff that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► hypercritical it's like he's addressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► uh that's partially true because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► what did I have to complain about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► hypercritical it was all the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► bothers me and this keynote was like uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► as many people have said and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► was said on Gruber's podcast and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► certainly set amongst us all in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► it was like settling all old debts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► you know just knocking them all down I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► likened it when I was talking to John to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► the thing when they had that Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► stuff or like iPhones you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► want to do iPhones the enterprise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► integrate with our exchange server can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► you know provision it remotely can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► remote wipe can't you know they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► through all these litany of complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► about why iOS wasn't good for enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► they said well we did all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► to shut up I mean they left off the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► part but it was that type of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► here's all your complaints here's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► the stuff that we know we've screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► that we've been hearing about for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► you know and these are things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► been festering I said well guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► we're doing them all as SMS you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► did you do you hate SMS do you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► paying the stupid $0.10 in 160 character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► limit and all that stuff but we hated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► and here's iMessage you know screw SMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► and I think that was that was the narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► laser focus of iMessage was hit SMS get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► you know solve that problem and wrongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► as we both noted they didn't pull up one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► more level and say listen is just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► like messaging and really we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► have a big mess with the FaceTime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► iChat thing let's not add a third let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► unify this they didn't do that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► wasn't they were they were narrow maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► you got to do that in the 1.0 maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► involves an iMessage comes to - you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► dominate in some sort of consolidation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► but for now we have iMessage I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► tech messaging at all but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► applaud shame shame on you for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► because there's I think of every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► week I can think of one important text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► message I'd like to send you and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► think while he's so like you so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► connect better DM me and I'll see it huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► it works the same it was there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► Twitter DM you sent that I didn't get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► the timely manner while I was here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► don't have to review all three of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► ah anyway yes I'm sure eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► someday I'll break down or your life on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► that day is not today see I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► guy should've bought you an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► instead of a toaster and pay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► bill every month right yeah now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► should have roped you into that somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► yeah what's left from this WWDC thing oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► well let me just finish up I pet eyes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► there's more iOS 5 yeah tabs in Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► yay about time that was quick newsstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► uh it's kind of weird that I like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► newsstand and I see it as a solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► the problem of people don't know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► they'll define the New York Times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► it's filled with keyword squatters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► fake apps and like cheap guides and God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► knows what else and if you if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► to if you want to go somewhere and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► what kind of magazines you got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► god knows what you'll find out it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► in various times it's it's Apple versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► these keyword squatters and crappy app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► things and it's an ongoing battle and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► Apple wanted to make you know a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► well-lighted place for people using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► metaphor that people are familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► understanding is that that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► beginning that's literally what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► collecting together all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► are in Apple's estimation things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► are magazines that are periodicals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► they're just apps that already existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► and I think there are some hooks to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► stuff with news they had a session on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► unfortunately but obviously some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► you can do but initially I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► newsstand will just be filled with stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► like the New York Times app the Fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► magazine app the Wired magazine app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► stuff like that so it's interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► they felt the need to make their store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► easier to navigate by making a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► silo that's a subset of their store well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► you know I think I think this may be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► don't know if it if it's a clue into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► bigger but why why wouldn't Apple come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► out with their own document publishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► infrastructure at some point that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► bigger than this that's if if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► periodical a newspaper even a book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► you just want to publish it here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► know we'll make it very very easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► you just create your content here's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► the layout tools here's everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► that you need and it'll all just go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► a newsstand and people can subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► it right here yep people wanting Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► to do that since cash flow is it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► the iPad iPad was gonna be things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► Apple's gonna have a publishing solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► but it doesn't this doesn't just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► like them sort of taking a first step in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► in a way no I think it's exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► said it was it's letting users more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► easily find apps and other people make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► an Apple Apple as probably wisely in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► opinion has not just has not decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► try to make a publishing platform like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► they're not going to compete with Adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► expertise and like look with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► iBooks right so they used epub which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► a standard that they didn't make but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► even that where they made their own kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► implementation of some conglomeration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► epub stuff like someone else is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► the heavy lifting there and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► implementing it and even that is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► testy and annoying and their apps don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► export epub in quite the right way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► don't work you know they're not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► to do your publishing workflow for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► that's not what Apple does is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► company's much as we all want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► solve that problem especially publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► who were technically Clues like please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► Apple solve our publishing workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► Apple has chosen not to do that so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► and instead the publisher left a left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► the you know the eager clause of Adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► who's going to charge them some insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► you know rate for their tools that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► create these 500 megabyte magazines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► filled with giant images of magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► pages split up into a bunch of Tiff's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► PDF or goggles whatever the hell they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► but yeah Apple Apple is not not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► into that market yet I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► they ever will and I think it's wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► because I'm it's not even obvious to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► what the solution would be it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► like well we know we want something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► we want it to be good but we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► what it is so Apple come up with it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► don't think Apple really knows either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► they're staying out of it we also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► relationship between Apple and Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► is weird like it's clear that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► want to be what it reminds me of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► is the old relationship to an Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► Google remember when they were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► like buddies like Google is the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► they could do Islands online stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► Apple is this up-and-coming company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► could do client-side stuff and they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► of complemented each other and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► those roads diverged and the two guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► went off on the directional twitter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► now like Twitter is a social networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► company the Apple gets along with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► Facebook and Apple aren't really getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► along you know they tried to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► Facebook thing and that fell through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► they had to get ping without Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► and it's you know deal way for various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► reasons but yet not having Facebook in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► on that deal really hurted I think but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► Twitter they seem to get along with so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► the two of those companies seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► like peas and carrots at this point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► they have the you know the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► third-party developers be able to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► pull up a sheet to send a tweet just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► like you can pull up a sheet to send an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► email you know it's a system integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► for tweeting stuff but I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► helps third party iOS through our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► Twitter's focuses to hell you know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► help you integrate Twitter into your OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► but this doesn't really affect clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► we're still kind of the same story on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► that well here's what I said for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► listeners who don't listen to the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► show or haven't listened to this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► yet are listening to this one first what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► I said is that I think it's a very uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► napple like for Apple to depend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► integrate so heavily with a third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► like this that that this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► thing that Apple is usually loathe to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► for a variety of reasons that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► easily imagine why they might not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► to so deeply tie into an integrate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► a third party of any kind and that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► guess is that if they're not planning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► buy Twitter that they have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► first right of refusal deal where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► somebody else comes and wants to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► buy Twitter although Jack will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► opportunity before anybody else to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► Twitter because this is deep deep deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► integration and Apple smart enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► know smart enough to know that these old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► versions of operating systems you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► when iOS 5 is old whether that's in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► year 2 3 from now they're still going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► relationship with Twitter isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► short-term thing if they're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► deep of an integration this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► they're they're anticipating that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► relationship will last it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► paying where they can just take ping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► of the next version of all the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► the patroness relationship with Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► they tried to have this relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► yeah it shouldn't hang and it fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► through yeah they seem to be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► do this with social things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► were willing to have this relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► with Google way back when - but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► when there's those two guys drifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► apart like Google decided to make its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► own phone then Apple was all or we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► buyer on mapping company or we got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► you know they were like everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► we're currently relying on Google for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► let's start long-term plans to get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► of them and do it ourselves if possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► I aim it on the search front like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► buddy here's the thing you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► I'm not on the talk show last episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► I said Apple has continuously not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► haven't had the best luck doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► own social stuff or integrating their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► soul I mean you just met you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► just mentioned the pink thing and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► that fell they have not had a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► track record here so why not partner up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► with who is arguably no III I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► what so they're gonna but they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► buy him now well well so the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► said that like they have right at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► retreat phrase a different way I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► say that's the bet that I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► think they tried him on there but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► think always got it for me the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► company that Twitter would let buy it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► Apple and that's the only company I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► would be comfortable buying to that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► the shoot the shoe is on that foot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► I don't I don't think Twitter's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► to sell us up I don't think Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► trying to buy in fact I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► Apple wants to really do that they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► rather have Twitter do its thing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► would be hassle for them like they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► read it here's what I see they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► do its thing and have good integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► as long as Twitter doesn't side to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► its own phone or desktop operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► system okay or you know a music store or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► like as long as you're not competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► with us we are complementing each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► we like the relationship but we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► want to be responsible for running your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► business especially since Twitter kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► has that problem of like oh by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► how are you gonna make money alright but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► here's that here's the thing John what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► if what if something happens what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► Microsoft or Google or somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► comes up and yank that crap yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► they don't have to go through that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► said I think it's informal I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► it's a ready for Musil contract I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► it's simply that they both know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► have talked to each other and they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► agree that we will never sell to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► except that of Apple some day came and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► made an offer we would say yes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► don't even know if that's been spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► I'll tell you what I'll tell you what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► disagree with you and I think right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► if you went into Steve Jobs office or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► Jack Dorsey's office and you open up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► top desk of there's their drawer there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► a little little note in there maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► signed I think part of the bottom a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► yet a little you know a picture of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► apple with a heart and a little bird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► next to it and it for all intents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► purposes it's a deal that they can call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► out any time they need I guarantee you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► guarantee you those type of deals exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► informally when this trust between CEOs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► because they would they wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► written it up and the thing is I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► think Apple if up first of all that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► whether they would have already liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► you don't wait for the valuation to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► going up enough right so if they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► it they could maybe Taylor said no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► don't think no I don't think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► think Apple wants them at this point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► doesn't want them at the price they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► they would have to pay for it they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► rather just like that you know they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► they want all the benefits with none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► the cost they don't want to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► fear and how Twitter makes money or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► paying for all its stuff or scaling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► because it's not what they're good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► like let Twitter be Twitter and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► they're not competing with us we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► they'll take all the benefit and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► have to incur any of the cost of running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► that business but if Twitter ever can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► figure out how to make money starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► going down the tubes or whatever or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► becomes bargain-priced or Twitter ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► decides they want to sell right if any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► of those things happen you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► believe that Apple and them would do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► deal and Apple would buy Twitter versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► now when they're getting offers from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► like Google I'm sure loves to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► Twitter and probably made offers for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► and Microsoft tries to buy everybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► know and Twitter's going to no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► no if Apple came on strong if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► change their mind decided you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► actually want to own Twitter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► it'll be the first social thing that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► own is awesome and we're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► spend ho jillion dollars for it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► the only company Twitter would say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► for and I don't have anymore conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► theories upon that and I'll say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► speculation but it's interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► you have that is your information based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► on anything more than speculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► because interesting you have exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► dare you john siracusa I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► dare are you I don't I do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► access to the top drawer of Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► desk or to Jack Dorsey's desk but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► just put it this way if if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► about the mind of Steve Jobs in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► that he operates he is he takes risks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► but he only takes risks when it's based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► on something that he feels that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► almost personally as Apple can deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► and this is in doing this level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► integration is a huge risk if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► feel that there's some degree of control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► there that's all that's all I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► let's move on to the next topic all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► right if there is one if you must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► one because this is a long show yeah one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► last little bit here little bit it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► reminders app and the camera app two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► examples I'm sure you talked about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► like crazy I'm Marco show so I'll glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► over it but two examples of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► integrating functionality that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► previously represented by tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► apps in the App Store so there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► features and Albertus folded them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► their camera every were tons of reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► apps and now that reminders are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► OS and the example that I give for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► two particular ones reminders in camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► is that the iPhone from day one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► shipped with the weather app but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► has not stopped a gazillion weather apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► from being on the App Store so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► again I'm sure you got this all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► Marco thing but like Apple folding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► features into its built-in programs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► good for the customer and in most cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► it's probably not bad for third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► developers and the weather app is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► best example for things like camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► reminders because those are fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► built in from day one but so is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► weather app and you know different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► strokes for different folks you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► maybe maybe if you have a business now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► that's bigger than the weather app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► business and like you know your reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► app now is bigger than the weather app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► business this will shrink you down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► the size of the weather app business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► I don't think the weather app business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► is hurting on the App Store just search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► for weather apps and you'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► the only thing I have now is is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► like I said before this is a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► analogy it reminded me of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► enterprise thing where they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► saying all that stuff you wanted here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► is it also reminds me of I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► you know a software level it reminds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► of like the the 10 4 and 10 5 releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► of Mac OS 10 or their like BIGBANG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► releases with tons of new features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► like they had to get the feet under them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► they had to get the infrastructure in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► they had to do multitasking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► copy and paste like or whatever where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► now is the time we can really start you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► know cranking on on the big feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► releases in iOS 5 is the first bit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► interesting it's the same type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► introduced time machine and tons of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► API stuff like that this is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► first really big bang release it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► interesting exactly you know iOS 4 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► big and iOS 5 is even bigger and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► like 10 for tiger and 10 5 Leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► I think like iOS is in this steep part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► of its growth growth graph it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► like it's teenage growth spurt right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► even if Mac OS 10 it's kind of in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► dotage in a rocking chair getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► couple incremental features and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► like that I think interesting things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► happening in line but again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► really talk too much about them but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► can watch the keynote and see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► there so that's all I think I have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► the WWDC keynote we tube every didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► have time today to talk about WWDC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► and meeting people and everything all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► can say is that it's been a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► experience and I've been humbled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► honored and met so many awesome people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► more it was better than I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► could possibly be in terms of who ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► get to talk to about what and just I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► well I mean I'm really glad you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► chance to go wish I could have gone this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► year one thing I'd like to add is I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► a tweet here from a NAT message not a DM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► so I'm feel comfortable reading it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► from Ken Fisher do you know you know ken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► okay Ken official I saw that method that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► allow me to read it please go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► what is he I see Stan editor-in-chief I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► thought they were switching to Grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► Poobah now yes what you're switching to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► a I see it ours here I imagine a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► commanding presence the way he comes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► I'll have you know that Syracuse had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► told no one at ours and all caps no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► at ours he wanted to go or was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► going to WWDC and he ends it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► emoticon a happy face yeah I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► that's what Jackie said when I met her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► uh Jackie and Clint from ours who I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► been you know talking to online for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► years and using us but still have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► met in person so I met them they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► even know I was here until I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► tweeting about being here but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► it's illustrative of my point that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► didn't say wait a second are you here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► until like a day into me tweeting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► I'm landing and I'm on the BART and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► I'm I'm I'm tweeting things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► clearly indicating that I'm at WWDC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► talking about you know San Francisco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► things in San Francisco and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► half a day later is it wait a second are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► you here this shows they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► listen to me like I didn't do a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► announcement like hey everybody I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► going to WC but I talked about it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► the time you know to to you know talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► about four weeks to excuse them yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► well they don't listen to my podcast or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► anything like that fine but this an IRC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► room IRS uses IRC for its you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► communication even though I'm not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► arse employer hang out in there just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► talk with the people sort of the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► yeah Omar yeah more like a heckler kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► of creepy yeah but that's why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► constantly hanging out in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► saying things and I'm typing things all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► day long and they just all been trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► to ignore me because when I'm lathering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► crap so when I'm talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► stuff I have to do at WWDC or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► you know Ken's in that room all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► too but just because he's in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► doesn't mean you know he's idling in IRC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► right so somehow they either ignored all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► my messages that reference the IRS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► references I was going to WWC or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► just weren't in the room and they happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► and as for telling who I was going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► I sent a direct message to another our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► tactic employee I don't remember who it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► was but I don't think it was Ken or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► maybe it was Cathy go through my IRC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► logs but I sent a private message on IRC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► that said hey I'm going to WWC how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► tickets do you have or do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► there's any chance that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► something like that I never heard back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► and I didn't pursue it further so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► my fault for not pursuing it further but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► I assumed they'd gotten the message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► like you know I knew how many tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► they had they only had ones for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► Jackie and Clint really had to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► know if they had any passes thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► me right I I wasn't as we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► in the last show I don't blame them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► not paying for any part of my trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► because I didn't work for them when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► was here you know I just did what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► wanted to do when I wanted to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► didn't write anything for ours when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► was here and so on so forth other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► said well isn't this like a research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► trip for your Mac os10 line review sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► of but like you know they'll pay me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► that you know so you feel you feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► the line piece that you'll write you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► two-degree the day you're satisfied with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► important to you and that's why you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► it you were certainly not expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► anything they're always good to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► terms of payment for my Mac os10 reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► and I have no complaints and I'm you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► the one who was getting on the thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► like why isn't our sponsor it's not me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► it's all coming from you and so he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► replying to you and saying hey we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► even know he was going no he was sooo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► easy very clean and I you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► believed him I believed him oh yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► I'm not saying he knew and didn't I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► just saying like it's they didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► because I'm always talking and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► learned to ignore me you know I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► they're also people who don't read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► actually I know exactly what they mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► yes there are people who don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► every tweet in their stream and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► tweet a lot and even though most them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► you know they definitely are not I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► every tweet type of things so yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► under it I saw the RS people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► here I got to meet a lot of this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► of people who had never had before in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► and that was great and everything worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► out fine and I have no issues with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► they'd say about they'd say you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► stand-up guy that you just said this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► important I'm gonna do it I don't kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► these guys don't need to I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► anything from them I want to go I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► going I'm like I said if they had said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► hey we'll help you no pay for blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► then I would have been like oh geez do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► even really want that business at hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► you know ever have to do work you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► I've already added to them then no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► like this way you went is a free man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► you're your own I could do whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► obligation do any writing I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► fantasize before I went that I was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► like maybe I can write some parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► their view while I'm here forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► that just for ya it's not I've I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► that was kind of foolish but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► realized like like I'll leave the hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► room in the morning come back at 3:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► a.m. collapse get up go to the sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► the next part you know so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► you're not you're not you're unbeaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► yes and that's the way I wanted it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► so I have no complaints and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► stop stirring the pot that's what I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► yourself shame on you okay but that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► for this week yes we are done we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► done and we will be back in regular time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► next weeks that's safe uh yeah thanks oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► people get very upset when I move things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► around and schedule it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► if somebody comes in and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► came in and moved to your desk you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► moved your keyboard around moved your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► mouse around or your weird shoes yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► you get very upset in there you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► like what wait a minute somebody moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► my stapler you know what you gotta you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► gotta count for this w everybody sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► that even while we were doing the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► John people were tweeting saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► they miss hypercritical and when will it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► be coming out and I said that while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► we're on the show I looked I said you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► missing it it's on right now and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► don't you look at the schedule so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► say this there's a two thing so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► going to do here that I don't normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► do I I frequently ask people to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► the shows if they like them or I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► they don't but obviously if they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► is better to go in to review no review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► the shows in iTunes that's not what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► asking for today there's two other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► things the first one is go to five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► five dot TV slash schedule or as you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► you would say in the jean-luc Picard Ian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► style of which you are doing so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► the edge we'll go look at that 5x5 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► TV /schedule and you will see for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► most part the the days and times that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► do the live shows and we do try to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► them around so like yesterday when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► early in the morning I I had it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► schedule for yesterday early in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► morning when we found out we couldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► it I immediately moved it to today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► then updated it as soon as we had a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► so that I do I do my best to keep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► up to date so look at that and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► thing and this is something it did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► I've been encouraged to do this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► don't really like to do this but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► been encouraged to do it by a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► other people and a handful of listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► and that is this if for some reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► would like to help support what we do at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► 5x5 and and and are feeling generous we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► would love to receive your generosity if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► you feel so inclined by going to 5x5 dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► TV slash donate or you can donate as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► much or as little as you choose in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► variety of different ways or not or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► don't go there and the shows will stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► just as as great as they ever have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► so but that's it anything you would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► to add follow John siracusa at siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► on twitter he has no Facebook account I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► do have one blue I have one from way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► back but I did not look at it all as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► ever but Twitter you can follow him on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► Twitter yes and you can follow me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► Twitter if you so choose at Dan Benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IplsY_S8/6208">TS</a>]