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11: I Am the Steve Jobs of This Sandwich

 

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00:00:02   this is hypercritical a weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2">TS</a>]

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00:00:17   I'm Dan Benjamin this is episode number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/17">TS</a>]

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00:06:57   and things that work if you're lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   enough to live in a that kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   country you would just assume it people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   who are listening to this show that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   have a microwave yeah you think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   gonna get your Albania but that's us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   centric view of the world because really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   we just don't know anything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   rest of the world I don't know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   says he doesn't have a microwave and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   never had one how could you get by with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   in a microwave he says he has a steamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20   but you know maybe like in Europe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   not really heat up a can of soup and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   steamer I don't know I guess you'd put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   that right on the stove in a pot take 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   minutes to get it to room temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   sometimes it's it's puzzling to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33   like I said I think both of us have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34   us centric views of the world I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/454">TS</a>]

00:07:37   think I know I do so but microwaves are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   not ubiquitous huh apparently not then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   again you know if you write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   anything someone will this is what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   show is gonna be about eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   someone somewhere will will object or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   have a counter-argument you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   if that person is representative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   anything except for themselves or their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   one you know pet peeve with there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/473">TS</a>]

00:07:57   times I've had three microwaves yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   just for convenience sake I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   to walk to that into the kitchen I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   get one for this I don't even want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   to the kitchen we'll put one in here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   bathtub chicken in every pot a microwave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   in every room but one in the car in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   you want to eat while you're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   alright the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   Apple's online stuff that was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   the last show episode 10 yeah a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/499">TS</a>]

00:08:23   of quick points in this a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   pointed out that Google has exchanged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   support for the iPhone like you connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   you tell your iPhone to connect to it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   if it's an exchange server and her email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   pretends like it is right and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   suggestions that that might work better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   than trying to pop or IMAP from it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   been a little bit afraid to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   because when I go to the link that been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   provided by a bunch of people it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   to want to sync everything like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   contacts on my counter does it does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   I do not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54   do that because Google's Gmail's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   contacts are horrible because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   person you email to or receive email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   from seemingly ends up in your address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   book with an email only entry and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   drives me nuts I want my email book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   be you know to use the word the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   years curated I pick the people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   in it and I you know tell their entries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   and that's it and I do not want every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   single person although complete can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   those people in there when I start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   typing an email address that then it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   suggest anyone I've ever emailed to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   from but I don't want them on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   contacts list so the last thing I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/560">TS</a>]

00:09:21   want to do it allow Google contacts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   flood out like a bunch of green aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   swarming oh yeah you do have the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   I believe in the chat room seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   saying is to you have the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   control what actually gets synced but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   I'm with you I don't yeah it's not where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   I figured that ability had to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   there but I'm still just worried of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41   trying it because it like if I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   wrong or I don't turn it off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   accidentally sync once yeah you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   I got it I'll be spending an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   cleaning out my contacts because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   didn't find the right check Bob you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   should you should be wary of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   yeah so I use the web UI for that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   phone too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55   and another person pointed out a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   of people actually and I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/597">TS</a>]

00:09:58   remembered this because I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   it happened but apples a calendar update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   remember when they had that new MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   calendar with new UI looks like the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   you guys sure the beckylyn well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   external feature is like oh look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   new UI and looks fancy use a sprout core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   whatever they're using under the covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   it looks like the iPad but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   change internally is that apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16   it's server canonical now it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   you know that the devices are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/619">TS</a>]

00:10:20   canonical representations and they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   the computers the way point it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   server is the source of truth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   everybody else sinks down from that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   it was like a double change there the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29   and the model and that would be good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   me if I actually see whose MobileMe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   calendar but I don't and the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   don't is and again this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   barrier for Apple not so much based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39   fact but on perception my perception is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   that if I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   MobileMe calendar well can other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   see my calendar and can I share with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   them do they have to be mold me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   subscribers you know I we pay from old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   me for the house but we don't do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   family plan we just have my one account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   yeah and so then I get a calendar but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   wife doesn't have MobileMe calendar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   do we want to upgrade to the family plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58   so she can get a mold me calendar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   then what about all my other relatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   they have to get a mobile me or can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   sync with Google calendars or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   all these questions may have answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   that that satis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   you know yes you can do this no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   a problem this is you can do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11   just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   but the fact that I don't know and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   no good way to find out without like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   paying and trying it keeps me away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   it and mainly the thing keeps me way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   that I used Google Calendar for free I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   know every single person use it we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   share all these calendars among our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   family in school and whatever else we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   sharing calendars with there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   barrier to entry it's again it's the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   pay model versus the the free with ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   model and the free with ads model is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   lot easier to sort of go viral then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   trying to convince everyone you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   pay nine dollars a year for I'm old me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   so they can use the fancy web UI that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/699">TS</a>]

00:11:44   bothers me about the family pack to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45   the family pack is better than when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   didn't have it because no one's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   pay $100 a year for every single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   in their family but it still bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   that like if you only pay $100 a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   yeah you can get multiple email accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56   but you only get one of the good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57   you get like one set of contacts and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   know one calendar and what you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   it's not a multi-user thing but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   having another email addresses someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   doesn't give them the full mobile me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06   experience and then maybe I would pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/726">TS</a>]

00:12:10   for the family plan like mobile me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   but no one else really cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   syncing everyone else uses free web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   services and I just use the mobile me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   sync stuff so the last bit of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/736">TS</a>]

00:12:20   was also from the online thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   that's about one of the points I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   later in the show I thought about it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   was another aspect of that that I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   have talked about I want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   it now I made the point that Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   operations were its biggest advantage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   terms of like data centers and how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   run that was when you're quizzing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   about it right yeah and I asked you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   you thought it was and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   would say like what's their search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   algorithm or they're great at selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   advertising or whatever but I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   that their biggest advantage is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   operation stuff and there was an aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   of it that didn't don't think I quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   focused on enough and I want to revisit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   it it's not so much it's not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/772">TS</a>]

00:12:56   stuff that we talked about in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   how they manage the data center is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   they buy commodity hardware and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00   tweaked it so they have these custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   things and they build everything so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   machines can fail and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   they that is all true but the key thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   that's an advantage to them is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   stuff is not off-the-shelf stuff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   not as if if you want to do to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   make a similar business where you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   cloud computing or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   study up read a bunch of books read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   lot on the web and then just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   get some combination of like nginx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   MongoDB memcache my sequel Oracle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   like combine it together with best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   practices and come up with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   like Google the Google does not use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   stuff or rather uses that stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35   limited capacities but it's sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   know it's custom it's not off-the-shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   they're not using the same open-source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   software as everyone else for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   part ah in some cases they even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   with go they even invent their own stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   right and that's from saying it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   their own stuff that they're inventing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48   for them for the hardcore you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   infrastructure and that's why the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   strategy you should do a Google does if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   you have an online business Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   created operations you should do just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57   what they do you can't do what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/837">TS</a>]

00:13:58   because they're not you know everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   thinks if you're starting a web 2.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   startup just figure out what what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   best practices are and look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   everyone else is using and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/845">TS</a>]

00:14:06   hire a bunch of people who can figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   out and build something on that but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   you're gonna imitate Google you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   that because you can't you don't access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   to the stuff that they have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   they're the only ones with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   technology and it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18   secret weapon in like a world where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   the weapons are increasingly open where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   everybody has access to all these open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   source you know infrastructure things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   everybody can use Apache ever and can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   can look at the latest greatest know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   sequel database and you know give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   spin you know anybody can use my sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   anybody can buy Oracle but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36   have access to those things that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   has and there are some open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39   alternatives like people see what Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   has and like go find Google you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   going to give us that thing what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   going to write Hadoop to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   something that's similar to what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   have and there are cases where Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   make something and releases it like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49   they invent this language and say here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   you want to use go go nuts with it have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   fun but for the most part its core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   infrastructure stuff is not distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   as open-source software and it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   it's there you know key advantage here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   and it's kind of like like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   question of how big a lead do they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   because eventually the open source stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06   will catch up with this or they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   release it as open source buthe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   won't see it as so much of a competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   advantage anymore or you know the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   will move on in some other way but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13   do have what feels kind of like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   10-ish year lead and the GUI where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   had the best yeah for a you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   a big lead in everybody else and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   you know you could say they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   advantage that elite a little bit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   make tons of money the 90s but they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   kind of squandered it I'm wondering what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   Google will do with its lead because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   it had especially you know three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/934">TS</a>]

00:15:34   just a humongous lead on everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   terms of operations there's still ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/936">TS</a>]

00:15:37   but I feel like people are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40   catching up well and I fear ially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   think about it what you can do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   cloud services that are out there today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   whether it's with Rackspace or Amazon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   or whoever it it really is possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/949">TS</a>]

00:15:54   all of a sudden scale up really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   really quickly to unimaginable sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/956">TS</a>]

00:16:00   sizes that you never in a million years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   could have gotten to you can do that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   just literally by by checking some boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   and hitting submit with a credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   and I'm not saying that people can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   and compete with Google and now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   the minor leagues though the minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   league is it easier to go from zero to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   pretty darn big with your minor league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   things but if you want to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20   major leagues like I'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   another company that's at Google scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   think of maybe Facebook and I they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/983">TS</a>]

00:16:27   invent some stuff on their own with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/987">TS</a>]

00:16:28   most part they're using commodity stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   but it really depends the nature of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   application but the bottom line is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   all these companies you have to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/993">TS</a>]

00:16:34   your own destiny something somewhat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   I wouldn't I wouldn't want to base my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   whole business on anybody's cloud thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/997">TS</a>]

00:16:40   on ec2 or on Amazon's own app engine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   anything like that at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   when you get to a certain size that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   becomes a liability you either have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   buy the company that you're relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   you know we're using this Amazon ec2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:49   which we just buy Amazon or you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   roll your own because it's just too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   of a risk to have something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   critical relying on another party so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   have to either roll your own out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   open-source parts or commercial parts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   build it all yourself and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   Google is up there on its throne with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   it's all its custom stuff that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   honed over years and years that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   continues to improve a lot of which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   key parts are not available of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   people and they say ok you know come at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   us you want a facebook you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14   with huge swarms of servers with PHP on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   them and some weird database stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   you invent yourself you know we'll we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   take that bet and again not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   infrastructure alone makes you succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   but it's a I think it's a big part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   why Google it's a Google's biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   advantage and the other part of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   you just do what Google does it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   of the equivalent sort of useless advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:39   to the advice to you hero just do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   Apple does and for the same reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   because when people say Joe you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   just do what Apple does look what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:45   does and copying them not so much copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   what they do but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:48   fee of the company and what companies do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   there's sort of like a concrete part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   an intangible part and the concrete part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   of what Apple does you can write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   little business books about and copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   like the concrete parts are simplicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   don't have like a million products a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   vertical integration and control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   whole step don't ship bad products kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   a bad products before they get out get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   out the door like those are concrete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07   things that any business can do it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   sell doorknobs you sell whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   sell there's some lessons to be learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   from what Apple does then maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   will help you succeed in your business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15   but the things that help you more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   are the intangibles and you can't copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   those I'll just do what Apple those make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   really good products make the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   decisions about what features to include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   what features not to include and figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   out what people want before they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:27   know that they're gonna want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   themselves you know it that stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:32   can say it but you can't copy it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   same way that you can say oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   write your own infrastructure software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   just like Google does and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:38   awesome uh yeah how do I do that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   it's it's it's tough to copy greatness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:44   this and so whenever these decks see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   these things of like you know do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   Apple does and you will succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   half of that is true and then half of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   it's like you know so the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:53   instruction on how to avoid sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   harassment in the workplace step one be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   handsome succeed like Apple be handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:03   it's the truth all right I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   all my follow up I just I felt like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:10   on the Google thing we just spent too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   much time talking about data center not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   enough about that software secret weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   Indiana it gets a big deal do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:18   understand sir we want to go on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   main topic I would like to I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   to do the sponsor I think because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   kind of relates you're kind of talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   about codes and algorithms and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28   kind of what our sponsor is so we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   we've had MailChimp as a sponsor before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   but this is something that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   it that's pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   they've launched a 1 million dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   integration fund for developers million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   bucks they're giving away so this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44   it works are accepting applications from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   anybody who's interested in building an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   integration on MailChimp platform this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   can be an app that you've already built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   that you want to integrate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   MailChimp it could be a web app can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   iOS it could be Android whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   want all it has to do is integrate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58   the MailChimp platform you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   MailChimp comm slash in agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   raishin fund and they will give you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:05   don't know if they give them though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   don't think they give the million bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   to one person I think they spread it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   a little bit but you could get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   money you could get it quite a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   money because they're giving away a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   million dollars and all you do is go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   there you enter you can fill in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   blanks tell them about your app and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   they give you some money they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21   equity the value to them is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   using their platform and that's it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   pay to do it so go to MailChimp comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   slash integration fund and get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:33   don't know part of a million bucks seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   like that's what people should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   it's building apps these days why what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   world we live in that that the big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   that a company wants to sell you is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   longer like buy our widget so much is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   build on our platform matter who you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47   no matter what your business is use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   API that's kind of the buzzword thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   like do you have an API whatever but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   really is true in the non buzzword sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   that people are realizing to the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   success comes from platforms and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   it's an interesting change from when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   just make a product and sell it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03   your deck exactly exactly so now what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:08   our main topic today the mystery topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   about to be unveiled the mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   ingredient is it's not a mystery because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   you named use requested it last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   I've already forgotten what was yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   forgot to ask you if you could explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:21   what you think the topic is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   tell me is it name of it and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24   explain it ah was the crust it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   topic that you think is about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   online criticism and stuff okay what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   the title I don't know I don't have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   own in the topic list I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   had in topic WestEd like all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   topics it's based on some article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   article usually the title of the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   that I wrote was hyper critical which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   what the show is named after I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   thought we do this is topic is the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   first episode to kind of explain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   know what is it that we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   on this podcast or whatever but we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   use cross the the ten mark so maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   is proof that we would you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   executed first right we delivered we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   shipped it now we'll explain it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   shake the kinks out for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   episodes but yeah if you made through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   ten episodes and can't figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   the hell it is we're doing here we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09   try to explain it right well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   people have the gist of it but uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   I'll just dive right in here so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   this article when I wrote it was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   one of those things that was stewing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   my head for a long time and is oh I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   to give my disclaimer before we go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   this this probably qualifies as a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   tech topic so if you're here to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   about technology stuff and how we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   our iPads and Technology business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   industry stuff now would be a time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   you know perhaps listen to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   podcast but if you do like non tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   topics that's what this show is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   be about I think it's been you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   episodes since our last non tech show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   this one is mostly non tech so but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   very much relates to tech though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   not it's not tech in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   we're not going to be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   firewire 800 connectors right but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   very very centred on technology it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   relates to online but it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   touchy-feely than that it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   it's edging into Merlin's own you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   don't think it is not that far we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06   how we go okay so where was that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   like I said this is a topic that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   wanted to write about for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   but I held off on because it was non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   techie you like because I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   write on ARS technica so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   things that don't have to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:18   computer industry because they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:19   you write it on your personal blog it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20   not it's not appropriate for our stanca [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   but in the end I thought this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   appropriate and I had an apple angle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   it so I just did it and when I wrote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   article I tweeted the the URL and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:34   I said here's the article wherein I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:38   liken myself to both Steve Jobs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39   Wolverine and I said that hoping that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   would be so ridiculous that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   be intriguing to people and be they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45   would realize that that I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   ridiculous that I was comparing myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   to Steve Jobs him over ranae because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   not Steve Jobs and be because Wolverine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:52   his fictional character he's a superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   or whatever but apparently I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   ridiculous enough because many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   people took that seriously and I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   deal with all the you know this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   thinks he's Wolverine Steve Jobs rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   into one which is kind of part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   topic of this whole thing about when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   write anything a lot what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   feedback do you get so I'm going to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:15   of take you through the article but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   haven't read because it's too long I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18   know and you don't like all those words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19   and do you have a lot there's a lot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:20   have to click through every individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   page you're a premier subscriber tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   stacking that you would not have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   click through pages because everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26   will be all on one page I guess I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   just shown my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:29   that's right you're just you don't value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   content enough to paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   I think up with the RS premier is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   it's cheap it's like fifty bucks a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   or something anyway that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   affordable you guys do put it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   and then I don't have to click that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   yeah well the bad thing about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   because I have that turned on is when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   go to like my snow leopard review the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   page Scrolls for like ten years it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   certain point having everything all one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   page becomes unwieldy didn't all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   so the article started with this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:55   personal history navel-gazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   touchy-feely thing that actually does go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:01   somewhere so if you're reading it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   would encourage you to power through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   and I was talking about when I was a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   about how I had you know I was told that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   I had artistic talent and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   encouraged to explore my artistic talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   and everything and how I later realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   that that artistic talent wasn't so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   the that wasn't that was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   secondary effect of my ability to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   what was wrong with my drawings and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   though I was very bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   making the drawings I could find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   parts that were wrong and correct them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   so iteratively they would get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   bit better uh and that was my discovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   that the actual skill I had was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   criticism part and not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   artistic part which explains why I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   really draw anything today so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   the lead-in and then I went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   meat of it which is about criticism you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   know more generally like across various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   industries um the interesting thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:49   note about criticism is it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   bit different than you'll see online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53   will get to be online part at the end is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   that in general it's accepted that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57   critics can't do what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   criticizing so like no one expects a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   movie critic to be able to make a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   movie than the movie that criticized no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   one no one reads a bad review of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   transformers 2 and says oh yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   where's your better movie people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   understand that you're a movie critic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   your your job is to you know look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:16   movie and say what you think you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   responsible for having to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   make a better movie and so almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   certainly you can't and this is true in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   in and you know almost any mature media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:27   that has criticism in it but the critic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:31   has a job to it's not to make the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   that try to help people think in new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   ways about what makes a good movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   know and maybe they'll pick out a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   that you wouldn't otherwise think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   good and talk to you about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   explain why they think it's good and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   will help you appreciate other movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:42   that thing and the other side is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:46   that the movie makers themselves are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   also the audience of the critics so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   read reviews and the even is not of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   their movie they read a movie review and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   it helps them think more about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:56   makes a good movie and so when they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   to make their next movie that critics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   it's helped them perhaps think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00   something more interesting or new to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   in their next adventure so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   a cycle where everyone looks at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   critics complaining about something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08   was made and the people who make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   next round of movies use that to perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   make their movies better in response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16   it so that's kind of the the virtuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19   cycle there right um and creeping up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:23   computers here so the next example I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   to try to get closer to the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   side of things and the online side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   things our cars it's another thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   I'm into I for reading car magazines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   since I was a kid I still read them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   among the things that that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:37   interested in the hobbies and stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   have I hold up car automotive journalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:42   and car criticism to be sort of the gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   standard that tech journalism should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   apply to enough people read like Auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   week or Motor Trend maybe they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   this is ridiculous I like car and driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   personally there are some rags and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   the audio industry is in any big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57   industry but the reason I like the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   stuff so much is that cars are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   computers and they have tons of tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   specs cars have tons of things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   them you can measure this 0 to 60 time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   braking distance lap time 0 to 100 0 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   weight the size in the skid pad grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   tons and tons of stats and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   computers car magazines obsessively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   measure the stats sometimes they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   entire page in each car you dedicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   just to the stats you can look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   the numbers and they have at the top you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   know 50 cars from 0 to 60 times and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   have the you know highest mileage cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   and the lowest mileage cars statistics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   up the wazoo which looks a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   computers you know megahertz megabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   hard drive sizes screen size size weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   of laptops everything stats everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39   certain kind of guys just like stats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   it doesn't seem to matter whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   cars or computers but the stats thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   kind of runs a it's a common thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   through all guy stuff it seems yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   and especially anything that has to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   with tech like cars or computers in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   this tons of stuff to measure like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:56   are you know your cigar aficionado it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   not a lot of stats there right or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   you're into like Ming vases yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   the eight will stop beyond the cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   thing there are actually a lot of stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   and a lot of actions but not compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   baseball I don't know enough cigars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   know what stats you're measuring you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   know not nothing like being as you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   in cars and baseballers like she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   a length and circumference and chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   you lence uh you definitely would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   what they call the the ring gauge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   of the cigar the length which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   categorized in a variety of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26   ways there's the binder the wrapper the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   wrapper by the way is not the plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   thing that goes around the cigar there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   there's a whole bunch of tasting notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   and that there's again though it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   just not so much that is not to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   that let with lab equipment you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   yes that's stats are a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   different thing and they're really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   know what sports and cars I think even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48   place in in in a category apart from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51   computers I think I think you find even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   more stats and those things any wooden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   computers sports stats are a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57   different I'm thinking mostly of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   where there's like a product created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   somebody and then there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01   responsible and trying to say how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   successful they were so you make a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   and I tell you how good is the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   this really not many stats except a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   running time in that there's lots of art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   right right you make car and then these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   car magazines dedicated telling you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   good it is and as I was saying before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   someone in the chat were throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   their road and track makes Car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   Driver look like amateur hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   I got to say I'm a car and driver guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   not not to disparage road and track too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   much it's good but I'm a car and driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   guy I need to always have been get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27   they're the reasons of that and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   bit I think so the other thing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:34   car reviews do besides having all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   stats especially in Car and Driver is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   that and this is this is not just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   know a recent thing for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   history of car criticism if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   call that there's been this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   healthy tradition of like insight into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:47   what makes a car good far far beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   stats and the best reviews of cars note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   all the stats about it but then say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   why do we really love or hate this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   and it's subjective and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   people don't like it you get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   constant Wars in the car magazines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   saying how could you rate this car to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   better than this car when look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   one has faster 0-60 time this one has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   better fuel mileage and blah blah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   thing beats in every possible stat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   you said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   better and that's car magazines do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   shy away from that I don't and car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   driver in particular tends to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   its gut and you can disagree with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   gut and say it's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   touchy-feely stuff and you shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   ever rating this car better than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   Corvette because the Corvette beats it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   in every possible performance measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   and you're supposed to be car and driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   or how can you say this but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   they do and they recognize that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:32   makes a car good is not those numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   those numbers help or hurt but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   not the entirety of the car and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   think that's really up for debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:39   despite the people who get annoyed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   their car quote unquote if there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   co-write on or on the right into point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   or other covets their car keeps losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   in the comparison so that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   thing car driver there's actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   comparisons where they rank the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   first place second place third place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   fourth place they're willing to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   but they do it based on criteria half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   which are completely subjective and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   especially in the 80s and 90s for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:01   computers that was just foreign if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   went to a computer magazine they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   you the big grid they say one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   megahertz what are the speed what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   price and you know and they rank them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   based on that and it was not like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   this computer is you know slower than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:13   the other one it cost more money and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   less space but I really like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   the feel of the keyboard it just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   me happy to use it so I'm put in rating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   at number one that just never never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22   never happened in the computer industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   it was computer industry was just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   know stats alone and there was not any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   real debate about if you if you pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   something that in a computer magazine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   would be open revolt from the readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   they would say this magazine is crap if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   I wanted to know how happy a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   made you feel um that's not why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   reading your magazine tell me the stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:41   and rank them in that order just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   rank them at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   um I think that hurt computers for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:48   long time the fact that especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   we were kids and everything it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   100% about the stats because it was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   by nerds and that's all we cared about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:54   and these computers were you know ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   and unpleasant but nobody really cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   that much uh and that's it's hurts kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:03   of tech industry criticism like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   hasn't been until very very recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   this culture of criticism in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   of like art criticism like movie critics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   there was only a statistical reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:17   and that is the reason that comes up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20   my thoughts a lot is that even the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   crappiest car brands like the car brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   that by all objective measures that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   know they've spent decades making very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   very bad cars like brands don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   exist anymore like Pontiac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   Oldsmobile or and I can name a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   other ones but I will probably already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38   get mail from people about those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   are have crazy loyalty to these car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   brands completely outside the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   like you know is this a good car is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   reliable is it comfortable or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   there's like Pontiac families but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50   only get Pontiacs and alls we'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   families but they only get Oldsmobiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   Ford Chevy's even more crazy and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   picking these American brands because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   the car magazines they were generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   considered to be not as good as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:03   the import rivals and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   and that was the opinion of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   magazines but people love them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   they had attachments to cars that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   nothing to do with how reliable is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   how fast is it you know like there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   attributes of the car that made them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   feel a certain way they want an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:17   Oldsmobile because their dad had knows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   bill in there and always would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:19   flailing they loved it and it makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   feel good they have an automobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   because they know how to fix and also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   law they just like the way they look or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   they like the color they come into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   the sound they make when they turn them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:27   on or they like the fact that the key is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   on the floor the sob you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   middle console because it makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   feel like they're quirky and original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34   mm-hmm like turbo lag whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   that they like about the car people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   don't really you know people are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   that for decades and they didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   feel i need to defend it you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43   like sobs that's what you like and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   get yourself a Saab and it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   well you know for the same exact amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   of money you could have got this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   which would have been had more room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   at better mileage and you know no one no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   one has discussions like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   remember when back in the 90s you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   a Mac the site you know for the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58   that Mac I could have bought - 486 pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01   in the way it's as fast they would had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   twice as much harddrive space and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   - discussions that you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   discussion who never took place in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   car world it always took place happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:09   this day you know even in articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   online now if you mentioned anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   about Apple stuff they'll tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14   you could have bought for the same money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   that has better specs so the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:19   to this as noted on the thing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   Apple the exception of these stats Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   is Apple Apple it sort of took it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:27   there there wasn't this culture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   mature criticism of computers it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   immature with stats based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   Apple had to come so they couldn't Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   couldn't rely on that to lift them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   they had to come at it from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   and say we're going to make computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   that are acknowledged to be slower more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   expensive you know it does have much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   much capacity so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   and we're going to find a way to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46   them and become successful with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   it took them a long time of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   that you know they make the iMac it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   like yet successful for Apple but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   know come on everyone still has a PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   right they just kept going and kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   going kept going and then when they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   into the consumer realm with the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   and the iPhone and the iPad they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   started to get into a realm where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   traditionally stats haven't mattered as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   much and all of a sudden like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   playing field is getting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05   more uh less slanted against Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   saying okay well apples iPods you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   might not have all the features you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   as you know less space than a Nomad no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   wireless it's pretty lame right but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   you know the consumers didn't care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   once they got their toe in that door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   they just ran with it all right so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   we have Apple's products being compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   more like cars people buy the pink iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   mini because it's pink and it's cute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   I don't really care what the heck the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   stats are the same reason they write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32   that by a VW Bug or the new VW bug or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   some Volkswagen Cabriolet convertible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   which is a piece of crap car cost way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:37   too much money because it's durable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   they love it you know and it's happen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:43   happening now like this the post PC era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   consumer devices has always been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   that you buy a cell phone because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   because it's a nice-looking or its slim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:49   you buy a razor because it looks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   cool and futuristic and you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52   you're using a tricorder with it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   know stats were not a factor there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   computers are becoming like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   why you're seeing Apple you know zooming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   up the ranks in the PC realm is that pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:04   are started into that realm to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:05   they're fast enough and so you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   too worried about stats but man those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:08   MacBook Airs sure look slick right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   yeah they're more expensive than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   netbook but I feel like I'm getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   and the same reason that your Jaguar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15   more expensive than a Corvette and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   performs worse I feel like I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   more with the Jaguar because it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   awesome and the Jaguar brand has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   cachet to it and you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   reasons you may like the Jaguar better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   than the Corvette they have very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   to do with stats and the article was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:33   talking about how if there had been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34   healthier environment of mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   criticism in the tech industry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   would have been an easier road to hoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   that pcs wouldn't have been mired in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   that get over so long where it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   about stats because I think that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   hurt the industry was just nerds just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   complaining about stats and it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   a first mover like Apple to break out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   with the iMac and go completely in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   direction arguably they did it already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   with the Mac of setting we're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   a GUI it's easier to use you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   not a stat you can measure ease of use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   is not a number we can put on a box what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   we're telling you this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   better trust us and some people did come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   along with the program but it was a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   long road to hoe and still Apple's web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   and in PC market share but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   consumer electronics that's going the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   other direction fast and the angle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:17   the article is that Steve Jobs is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   made that happen that he was Apple sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20   of uber critic where there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   external critics there was no external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   source of the kind of criticism that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   produces these good products so Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   Jobs had to be the internal critics who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   would tell people I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   you know what the storage capacity is or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   what the megahertz rating is I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   the product to be good in the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   I care about that have very little to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   with stats and by him internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   internally facing being that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   critic it allowed the company to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   these products to a different standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   than the outside products and again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   took a long time for consumers to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   to accept those and going into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   consumer realm really helped that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   from the very beginning he was using his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   criteria his much more mature criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   of what it is that makes a great product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   that goes way beyond the numbers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   that was trying to give the the value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   explain the value of criticism in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   computer industry I think it wrapped it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   up with something telling people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:14   value of criticism in their own lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   and stuff and that's a more dubious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   value but I think we'll get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   now with the final bit which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   criticism online which I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   talk about in the article but I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   kind of the meat of what we want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   about here because you've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   it on your other shows as well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   one of the very early build and analyzes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   with Marco he mentioned that he does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37   want to blog about tech topics do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   remember that conversation yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   just because the repercussions from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   are that the feedback is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:46   incredibly passionate in a frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49   negative way yeah and so a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:53   just blog about tech topics but Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54   blog is kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   he goes different but it here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   does blog about tough targets he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   finding it he gets different types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   feedback because once you start talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   things that nerds like I guess or stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   and numbers you get a lot of unsolicited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   advice let's say right if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   describing this is how I did something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   hey I had a problem in my house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   wanted to hear music in this room so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   set up the server over here to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   and I connected this cable to that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   and I put this off around here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   that's how I let myself you know listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   to songs in the shower without moving my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   iTunes through my Mac Mini in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25   room right that's your blog post just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   like I'm sharing something that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   did what you get in response to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   all the ways that you could have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   that differently or better you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   have used this piece of software if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   use this you could do that better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   know really if you did you pay money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   that there's an open-source equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   that you should have used and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44   be using flat files or OGG Vorbis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   instead of AAC blah blah right then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   that's the kind version the harsher more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   harsh version is like I'm I'm running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   service that you all use like let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   tell you how I set up the Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   servers you're all instapaper users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   here's what I do for the Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   servers for the backup process I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   this is actually close to example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   he did like here's what I do for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   backup process of the instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   infrastructure and then all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08   tech-savvy Instapaper users said oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   god you can't do that for your backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   you have to do this and that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   other thing my data is safe now and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   blah blah all sorts of you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   unprompted it wasn't like the blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   was like hey guys tell me how you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   I should do this it was more like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   is how I've done it and I'm sharing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   with you and then you get this torrent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   of feedback um so that's that was Markos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   problem with it with feedback at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   the one that he talked about there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   other one was a Gruber I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   he's ever talked about this on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   podcast but I know he talked about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   the Macworld podcast years ago I put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   link in the show notes actually link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43   a blog post links to the the podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46   if you ever talked about the lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   comments on daring fireball with him no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   that's on my list but I've talked to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   about it personally but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54   we've really done it on the show as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   topic yeah he's he's covered in lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   other plate like it's been discussed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   death I feel like but it is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   long I think he blogged about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03   tangentially a few times and he did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   podcast about it this was about 2006 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   something on a long time ago or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   just said point bike why don't you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:10   comments that he explained it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11   straightforward manner why he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12   have comments and I'll try to summarize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   what he said people should listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   actual podcast to hear you know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   horse's mouth so to speak but what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   was basically saying is that he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   interested in that type of feedback and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   he wants to present son of a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25   clean interface to the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   coming to read daring fireballer the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   phrase I remember is that he says when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   people come to Darren fireball I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   them to read every single word on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34   site and that's and I want to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   every single one of those words so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   not you know what some Diouf said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   read some really insightful article and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   the first comment is first post or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   you know racist slur or a viagra ad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   some other you know it kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   takes away from the experience so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   is coming from a different angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:52   not so much I don't want to hear what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   people have to say because it gets time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:55   to feedback email I'm sure but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   want other people's words on my site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   because this is my site than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   experience I want to present is just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   words in the amount that I want them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   you know you have your own site for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   putting your own stuff on you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   shows I think it shows there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   people who say that without without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   providing users a channel to interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   with you that you'll never be successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16   and yet I would say he has been by any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19   measure well the thing is there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:22   many channels to interact with him it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   not as if he's like the Internet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   still there yeah now hum you can do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   own blog post you know he's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   vanity Google search going like crazy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:30   if you link to him he'll find you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   read what you have to say it's not as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33   he's like in a cocoon like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34   to hear what anybody's saying right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   want that there doesn't want a sign on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   it that those are his words right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   it so now these two these two stances on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:45   comments I'm gonna give you my take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   it in light of that whole thing we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   talked about with criticism ah and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:52   I'm going to say is true for me just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   it's just as what Gruber Marco said is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   true for them so it's not an endorsement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   of one particular philosophy or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   other is really just you know another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   viewpoint into the stew here now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:07   articles that ours do have comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   every article at RSS comments which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12   subset would you like an I love comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   now ours kinda has the best of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   worlds in it when you look at an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   at ours you don't see a single comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   so that gets rid of the stupid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   where someone gets to the end of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   wonderful insightful article and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   the next sentence they read is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   horrible and offensive stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27   obnoxious you don't even see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   to click to see the comments so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34   the advantage of a site that's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   know wrapped up with other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   inane words but I do like to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   comments on what I write and I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   comments I love everything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   comments I love the good comments left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   the bad comments I love everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   because in light of this whole criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:51   thing when I see comments and anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   that I write I want to see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   criticizing it or trying to criticize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   or saying what they didn't like about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   and individually those comments may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   you know this guy didn't understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   I was saying this guy is has some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   axe to grind or this is totally wrong or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   whatever but in aggregate combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12   together if you if you write a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   and it's 50 of the 400 people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   comment all have some particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   complaint whether you disagree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   or not I feel like that's time to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:24   out what it is that they're on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25   like my view is that in aggregate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:29   there's some kernel of truth underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   every negative thing said about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   online and doesn't mean what they say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   true it may mean maybe like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   third-order effect where they're mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   about X and then made them mad about Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   and then they said Z and Z you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   can say well the Z is totally not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45   well so why are they saying that why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   are some large percentage of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   complaining about this what what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   possibly true about a milder version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   that if someone says this thing was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   long or I was bored or you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:59   topic X for too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   one or two guys are always going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   that right but if half your audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   says you talked about X for too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   it's time to think about that is it time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   to say maybe I did think about X too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   long no maybe you just talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   and didn't make it interesting enough or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   maybe you didn't do a good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   explaining why it was relevant or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   know the 50 other reasons to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   what what the problem might be but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   know I there's tremendous value in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:23   feedback now that feedback and come by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   email too but I found that the comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   feedback tends to be like more more evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   more evil than email feedback II people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   email you generally tend to be pull up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   more polite than comment stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   there's no audience that was the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   should link to this the took a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39   really good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   Gabriel some something something Gabriel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:45   law of Internet dickwads help me out uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   nice zip it's a penny it's a penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   arcade's strip and basically it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   blackboard with an equation that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   anonymity plus audience equals jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54   although I think it uses a more harsh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   word and it's the fact that everyone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   read KJ Healy says internet dick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:02   theory yeah it has a longer name to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   someone from the chatroom we'll get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:05   eventually I'll put it in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:06   but the fact that comments are out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   for everybody to read and have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   audience that makes people misbehave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   because they're not they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   communicating with you comments are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13   communicating with you and they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   that everyone else is going to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16   comments too so they have an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   for stuff so it's very different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   email where they think they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   only expectations that you are you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:22   the person who's going to read this they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   are writing for you but they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   writing for their audience to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   pump themselves up in the eyes of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   audience to try to make themselves feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   better about themselves for putting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   some popular writer in a comment type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   you know atmosphere speaking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   someone put in the in the chat room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:37   I already have in the show notes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   daring fireball with comments Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   extension have you ever seen that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   have yeah that's that's great and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   actually run that sometimes I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   Gruber hates that but because I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   see what people people have to say now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   if obviously a self-selected audience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   people with an axe to grind against crib [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   or whatever but every once in a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   fire it up and I peek at what people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   commenting on the articles most of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   are bad because again it's self selected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   for people who are inclined not to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   stuff but every once in a while this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   a little you know funny nugget in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   or insightful nugget buried in and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   the the dreck but it just goes to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   how desperate people are to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   audience in a place on a popular site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   via uh and and so the other thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:19   comments aside from email is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   less of a barrier then then sending an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   email certainly less of a barrier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   doing your own response blog post and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   again that's good in bed it's good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   there's a barrier because it keeps out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   the people who just have one stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   comment to say they're not going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   whole blog post about their one stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   snarky thing and they're probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   even going to email you their snarky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   thing but if there's a comment box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   the bottom an article that put it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   but there's also advantages to that low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   barrier and one of the advantages is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   that you get things like typos or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:49   factual errors reported really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:50   because people who know too factual are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   when they're reading like you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   finger laziness we're like all done so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   want to I want to start a new email find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:58   guys email address and send an email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   type it in and put a subject line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   duelist you know it seems like more work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   but if I can just scroll to the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:05   of this box type in my name or if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   already logged into the site with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   other thing and hit it button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   same page that I'm already reading I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   say hey you left that letter e on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:13   thing or hey you missed a semicolon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   there or actually you know this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   came out in this year and not in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   year and in the magic of online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   publishing it's great to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   feedback as fast as possible and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   the biggest volume is possible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   comments are kind of like the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   of the the you know the 5x5 chatroom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   the the world of static writing instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:34   of podcasting you get this audience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   people collaborating to help you improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   your article in the first five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   that it's up right so the comments start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:41   streaming in the errors and typos go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   there you fix them you refresh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   article and then you respond to them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   the comments and say that you fix them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   and by the time the you know mm person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51   comes along a lot of the obvious errors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   are gone and that's definitely something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   I appreciate from from comments where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/2995">TS</a>]

00:50:01   there's a low barrier to entry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   writing them up and the final thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   have in this is something that came up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09   few times in email and in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:10   about the music that precedes this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:13   we had it was a lot of feedback about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   that surprisingly yeah as we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   about on the show if you Don so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:19   have it opinion with you like what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   the old song I forget what the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21   it was Rondo by Marais I think these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:27   both words that are not English so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   cannot pronounce them correctly so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   died all right I just do it once but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   that's people people called the obonda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   masterpiece theater yes it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   reminiscent of that yeah and the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:40   is some what is it a Mozart thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   don't remember yeah that's a gallon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   is it is now what you wanted it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   yeah and so originally when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   looking at classical music themes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49   you through went out to me and you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:50   what do you think of this one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   classical music and I did my typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   Hemant hawing about how I didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   any music at all but if we had to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   one that one is fine but then when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   show came out you had put a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   song in front of it either because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   forgot what I suggested or because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02   just picked a different one I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   picked it like I'm I can I complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05   about it and then so you you brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   back the one that I originally had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   picked right more recent shows so let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   get some email some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   I like the new song it's great other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   people saying oh I missed the old song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:15   so what do I do with this feedback like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   it's not comments of his people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   you know emailing or whatever but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   do I do with this criticism I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   criticism 50/50 in both sides and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   got my own opinion that I just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   new one better but hearing enough people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   say that they like the old one better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   makes me think why why do they like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   old but they're like the olden better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   just because it's the first one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   associated with the show now they met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   you know you just fear of change anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   you change anything like you change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   interface on a computer people flip out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:39   because they're used to the old way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   whatever could that be it are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:44   this probably some truth to that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   doesn't give me much actionable stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48   go on so I'm just thinking maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:52   people like the old song some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   actually cited this and other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   didn't because because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   masterpiece theater angle because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   sounded so ridiculously pompous and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   know silly that we're going to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01   show where we're going to complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   stuff as if we're high and mighty and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   get to complain about everything right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   and the music the music added humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09   value and when I thought about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   thought I kind of had that feeling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   the old song - initially I it repelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   me because like ah jeez I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:16   people to think that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:17   masterpiece theater now we will discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   what is wrong with everything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   right that's why I picked that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   because yeah yeah but but again with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   Wolverine Steve Jobs thing it's tough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   say whether you know it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   ridiculous and I know it's ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   but people can very quickly say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   what they seriously think they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   you know fold themselves so there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   danger in there but I find that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   it wore on me in terms of like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   the humor angle of it eventually when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   became clear that people were willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   understand that it was ridiculous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   even be thinking that this was sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   parody type thing that it did have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   desirable characteristic and added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   something to the show so thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   these people's criticism instead of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   saying well I like what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57   and it seems to t-50 other way therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   I just go with my opinion it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:03   accepting criticism not at face value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   but as as a valid form of feedback that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   triggers you to think about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:10   gave me a better appreciation for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   old song I still like the new one better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   I still said we stick with the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   but I was even open to saying like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   I respond to that guy on Twitter maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   leave it up to Dan maybe does 50/50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   maybe maybe he rotated maybe never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   what theme is going to be not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   again not because I like the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   better than the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26   like the new one better but in this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   of environment if people like the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   one sometimes two maybe would be good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   mix it up or something I feel we I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   like I don't I want to just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   something and run with it yeah you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   to have you want to have solid type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   branding and continuity but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   wouldn't have changed at all after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   tennis I changed it because you were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   compatible when oh it's I wanna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:49   I want to keep you want to keep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   happy I know either what I'm saying now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   is that either one is fine with me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   still like the new one better because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   think there's less of a chance of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   being confused for being sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   attitudinal which definitely is not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   some people like the old one - I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   want reams of feedback of people voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   for so long they want this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   democracy you don't get to pick which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   song it is we'll just work with what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:17   have and if we want want to stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   the new one we'll stick with the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   if you want to change it back to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   one for an episode or two we'll change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   the back heel one you'll ever know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   it'll be a surprise you know I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   I you have you more to say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   thing it's just so much to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:30   with with criticism and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   hypercritical code but I would encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   people to go power their way through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   it's not that long it's maybe two three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   screen folds of stuff it's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   meandering in there but I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   some some value buried in that flabby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:47   thing that I wrote and I would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:48   actually discuss it with other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   have different opinions about criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   because again I gave I gave my view on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   criticism but really it what it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   down to for individual is if having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:01   comments on your site makes you feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   don't put comments on your site right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   not having comments on your site makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   you feel bad put them there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   whatever there's one issue you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   address about comments is that is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:12   this is the situation that I ran into on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   type logic because for many years I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   no comments then I brought then I added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   them and when I added them they worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:22   they were quite popular I mean some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   posts would get hundreds of comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   that was not unusual and most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:29   posts that I was writing after a while a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   lot of the time I'd write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   technical things and I might do tutorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35   on day you know how to install MySQL on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   you know Mac OS tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   for example and this is this is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   before homebrew and other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   made it much easier to do that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   thing but I would I would write these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   tutorials and any time you write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   tutorial it's not going to work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51   everybody even though you test it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   you try it on multiple machines you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54   sure it works you show it to two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   and have them try it and everybody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   it works there's always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   somebody who either they mistyped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   something they made a mistake they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   didn't follow every step or there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:08   there's an install something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   installed on their own system that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   going to create a problem or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   inconsistency or they've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   monkeyed around with things now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   whatever reason something doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   and maybe and legitimately in some cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   the instructions have had a few issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   here and there too so you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   would find those they're going to post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   those to the comments well if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29   and and this is true for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   non-technical ones too of course but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   it's even it's even more of an issue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   the technical ones because people treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   this like oh well that this is the Bible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   that's the Google said this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   number one result for installing it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   this has to be right and and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   wouldn't be right they would they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   put a comment in and say actually I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   this on this system and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   message I got please help well then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:54   a jerk if I don't sit there and reload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   my comments every single hour of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   day and reply to every single person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   has a problem and solve it for them now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   this is a specific unique kind of case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   right but there are a lot of situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   where if you write a piece that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   somewhat controversial and I saw this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   lot of the time with the comments on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   a list apart when I wrote that CMS we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:18   would see that a lot that people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   you know an author would go and write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   this piece they they're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   thinking that it's controversial or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   you know they're hoping it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   enough for people to read it it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   out it they proposed something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   controversial as some CSS thing that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   my gosh I can't believe you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   proposed this and then they'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   hundreds of comments for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39   basically calling them out or insulting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   them or or whatever whatever you see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   comments and meanwhile the author didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   even know it they just submitted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   piece to a list apart and they got told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48   it was going to be published and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   off you know giving some talk in Belgium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:53   it's you know then they look like a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   because they're not responding they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   ignoring people and comments are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   much a responsibility I think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:01   site if not the author too to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   there and and respond and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   reason why I just don't like comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   anymore because to be honest and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   gone back and forth on on the 5x5 site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   saying yeah I should I should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   comments I should put comments there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   that's um I want to hear from you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   what is is there an obligation as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20   author as a creator is the owner of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21   website or a curator to jump in and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:26   that because to two parts of this one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   the the more cut-and-dried part but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   didn't mention too much with just spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   spam by robots or even by people spam is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:36   a factor on comments terrible and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   kind of like it's a factor where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   personal opinion doesn't go into it much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41   I don't think anybody what likes to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   spam comments and no one likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   receive them so they're just they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47   fact of life like the weather when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   sign up for comments you are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:51   signing up for the responsibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   dealing with spam as I would say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   can't have comments unless you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   willing to take that responsibility so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   this has nothing to do with personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3538">TS</a>]

00:58:59   feelings or anything that is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   you just got a deal with it so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   right off the bat that's enough to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   comments on in lots of situations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   you can say I love to have comments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   love everything about comments but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   simply do not have the time to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   spam yeah and that's you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13   that's cut and dry so we don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   talk about that too much except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   fact that like like when you asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   comments for the site I I've said to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   know don't do comments because do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   really have time to deal with all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   spam games like you're you know you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   got too much other stuff to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28   it's not along the critical path for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   maybe someday later where you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   someone deal with the comments and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   that will not be a factor anymore we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   talk about other factors right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   so other factors I've tried ties into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   what you were saying about your my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   sequel post but when I talked earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   about doing what feels good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   someone said that it was a cop-out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   you know don't be wishy-washy give give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   strong sort of advice about what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   should do is criticism good or bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   should you have comments yes or no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   again I think they were just being silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   but there's there's something to that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   that when you were saying about the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   sequel thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   sequel thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   think we're you you post that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   article that goes out of date you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:04   have I guess you didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:05   comments close on it that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   that's another hedge against this if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   have the comments cut off after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   certain point when the article gets to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   certain age yeah yeah the door closes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   but yeah ignoring that for now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15   someone comes in comments and says they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16   have a problem and what you said is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   you said as you know and then I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19   jerk for not helping they look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   jerk to other people who might read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   to say hey this guy but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23   instructions and then people had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   these problems and like the bottom 50% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   of the comments is people complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   about problems and now they think you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30   the owner of the page or a jerk because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:31   you didn't help these people yes well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   that that right there is when it changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   from let's discuss the value of comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:40   or whatever - how do you feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   because if you feel like a jerk nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   anyone's going to say is going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   you not feel like a jerk you feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   jerk because you feel like you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   responsibility to those people to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   them and you don't want to feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   jerk so you're not going to do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54   there's nothing you can say about well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   really you should know the comments are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57   just wonderful because they help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   learn about what you're doing wrong blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   blah blah doesn't matter if you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   like a jerk that means you've decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:03   your value system is that I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   responsibility to the readers of my site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   to tell this or even if your value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   system is simply I don't want other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   people to think I'm a jerk because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   they read this it looks like I'm a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   that that's that's a value judgment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   how you feel about something there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   nothing inherently jerky I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:20   objectively about having a blog post at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   3 years later has a bunch of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   are having problems with it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:25   is old because like if you have a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   header anywhere on that post anyone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   a brain can look at it and say well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:30   thing was written in 2004 so yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   having problems you know like it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   nothing I would you there's nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   there that says you know you were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   something that's bad people right but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   you feel like you're doing something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   to people it means you hope you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:43   like you have a responsibility to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   know to help people or to help everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   who comes to your side urge at least or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   maybe you just feel like everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:50   ability to not look like you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:51   you're a jerk in your own eyes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   site they had some of the personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:54   decision and is a value judgment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   has nothing to do with the inherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   quality of the comments or the nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   comments everything to do with how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   feel as a person about that now I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   give an example for me for me if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   in that situation I would not feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   a jerk because I would say look anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08   who comes to this thing and thinks I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   jerk because a bunch of people in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   know a post from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   2004 are having problems now in 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:17   because the instructions don't work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18   them on their Snow Leopard system anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   who thinks I'm a jerk because they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   read the date header there I'm willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   to be a jerk in their eyes so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   willing to say if you can't figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   that systems change over time and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:30   these instructions don't work you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31   be bothered to read the date hitter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   can't figure out that this is old then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:34   I'm okay with you thinking I'm a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   because it doesn't bother me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   slightest because I feel like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   my responsibility to keep everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   ever wrote up to date forever if I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:42   instructions and I put this for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   version of the software and here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:45   date header whenever and you can't deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   with that I don't I don't feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   problem that all seems they'll with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   email like some people feel bad when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   they don't respond to every piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   email and it's like this great personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54   struggle to get to the point where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:55   can not respond to all their emails I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   never felt that profound but I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:00   felt any compunction to not responding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   to im's not responding to emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   anything like that and it's not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   I get so many of them isn't so popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   and I just can't deal with the day load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   it's just simply that I've never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   problem not responding to stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   that because everyone has their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   priorities in terms of how these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   make you feel and that's what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   to make the decisions on because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18   not here to like conform to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   else's opinion of what's right or wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   about things you're here to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   know a good time doing whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25   you're doing especially for me where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   it's mostly recreational this online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28   writing thing and stuff like that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   you know I have my set of what I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   responsible for and you know putting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   good content being correct on the facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   and stuff like that but I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   that responsibility in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   communication because if I did I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   you know again I don't get that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   stuff but if I responded every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   email I got it would just take up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46   much my day and I would just come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   dread it and hate it not that it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   a huge volume but a two paragraph email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   like if I respond to it like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   respond to it I respond to it for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   pages and every time I do something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   I'm like look I'm responding to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   person I'm spending all this time but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   big giant response into one person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02   email and no one is getting benefit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03   this except for this one guy would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06   this guy's question be better for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   address in a public forum where whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   it is I have to say about it can be read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   by the 7 other people who can email me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12   on exactly the same topic you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   I mean it's the same reason that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   most of the 5x5 feedback I do respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   with a one or two liner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:20   especially if it's just something simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   about hey did you know about this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   what about that those are easy to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   mostly what I'll take from those is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:27   don't respond to is that I'll throw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   into the feedback and like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30   wanted to know about this and we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:31   about it on the show where everybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32   hear about it I'm drifting off a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   bit here but I want to get to visit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   whole the whole angle on the comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:38   thing was it the the nugget of truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   buried null is whenever you came to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   conclusion this happens this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   therefore I'm the jerk I feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   jerk I feel a responsibility that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   everything to do with what you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   about that and that's why I think giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   some sort of hard and fast advice of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   should always have comments you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55   never have comments it's pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   because like what are we all doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   we're not we're not here to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   satisfy everyone else's opinion to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03   we should be doing if we're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   what we want to do so decide what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   want to do decide what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:07   comfortable with and do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   the whole big thing I said about Y value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   comments stuff you know people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   opinions change so maybe perhaps someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   who was on the fence about comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16   would maybe think well you know that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   was talking about criticism and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19   and how he gets value out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   comments and maybe I'll give it a try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22   because he's pushed me over the edge I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:23   was on the fence about it maybe I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   maybe I'll try this out maybe I'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:26   if I can get a little bit more value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   from these comments that I did before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28   maybe it will help me to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   offended or less bothered by situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   because now I know there's someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   out there who isn't bothered by that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   know and it takes a long time like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   you haven't been on line for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   I remember when I first start on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   Internet you know typical Internet noob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   just arguing with everybody getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   offended about everything personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   identifying with the Mac platform and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46   doing all these Mac Windows PC Wars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   know what I mean but after a decade or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51   two of it you tend to develop more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   thick skin but some people never develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   it is especially on certain topics like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   Marco has not developed a thick skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:58   about dealing with what other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   have to say about his tech steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:01   otherwise he would just do tech blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:02   post and not really care what the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   anyone else says maybe he'll never get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   to that point but getting at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   is not like a like a finish line it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   like you get a prize for it you feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   way you feel about it's not hurting him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   in terms of you know is his life choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   that he he's you know he gets annoyed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18   a technical feedback and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   some people just find things more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   annoying than other people I the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   I don't find it annoying is because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   ignored the same reason that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   Gruber probably doesn't find a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:27   his harsh feedback as annoying as other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   people might think because he's decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32   that this feedback is you know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   disagrees with it's just so we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   to agree to disagree and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   weigh on him that like it was a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   group of people we feel he should calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   he's decided what he wants on his site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42   and he's not put upon but all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   people saying you should really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   comments you know so that's why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   this really is a personal issue and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   more of a again more of a Merlyn topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   than a then perhaps a a tech topic or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:55   Apple topic especially when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56   to feedback online I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4016">TS</a>]

01:07:01   too far off from your usual stuff but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04   really comes down and making it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   like maybe you don't yeah maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   don't care well that's that's part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   the thick-skinned thing is at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:12   point especially as you get older you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   just stop caring about certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   that might have bothered you a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   previously and I'm not even going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   whether that's good or bad but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24   is what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:24   and it changes the decisions you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   make about about feedback for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:31   companies it's a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:32   because your main issue was not how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:36   feel about this but like does this help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   the company does this hurt the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   and you know that becomes a lot more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   a dispassionate business decision about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:46   weighing the benefits in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   networking and you know social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51   interfacing and viral marketing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54   stuff versus the cost of hiring the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   to deal with the spam and hiring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   moderator and stuff like that but mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   I'm talking about on the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   basis individual blog right individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:04   you know articles and an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:05   author responding to comments I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:09   think actually on the comments one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   thing on that I really love to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13   to interact with the people who read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   what I write and I find that even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   old school newspaper guys love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   stuff in that like their entire life you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:22   know they they were spent 40 years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23   the newspaper business and they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   run newspaper and then they write online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26   for the first time and they see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   first five or six comments appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   underneath their thing and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   it's like crack vader's crack it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   because for their entire career they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34   been giving the copy to the copy boy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   wherever the heck I know nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   the music newspaper industry whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   and it goes off to the presses then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40   comes out maybe they can see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   reading it on the subway and like peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43   over the shoulder like see if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44   smiling or frowning when they're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45   my op-ed or my movie review or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   but it is nothing like write it post it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:50   stare at the screen for five minutes hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   reload and see 20 people give feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   especially to like people who have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   been exposed to it like the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:58   virgins the internet instant feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   virgins like those newspaper guys it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   crazy like Roger Ebert is a good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   that he was not online but he got hooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   big-time with a little instant feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08   and stuff like that that's an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   benefit of comments that if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:13   it's it's like nothing else and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   like having that feedback and engaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   with the readers not engaging to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   try to correct them or you know argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   with them about things although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   sometimes that's fun to do too but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24   people enjoy that kind of engagement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:25   some people do not like that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   engagement and some people feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   responsibility to do that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   engagement even though they don't enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   it like well you know if someone asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   me a question in the comment I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   I'm a jerk if I don't respond to them if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   that's the way you feel and you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39   don't want to respond to them don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   comments right so I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   calculus on that stuff mm-hmm I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:49   love to hear you talk to Merlin about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:50   this he touches on it sometimes in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   of those things about not letting other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55   people's concept of what they expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   you define what you want to do and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   that stuff but I would just love to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   him go to town on exactly do haven't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   the exactly the same show as mine no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   it'll be totally different all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   criticism comments that I got loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   everybody has to say yeah it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08   a good topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   well crossed you can't really dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   topics damn can you no not really I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   the Royal you like cumulative ly now he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   comes up with him nobody puts Marlon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   a corner it's a great great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22   reference wonder who will get that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   eat mail us that will not be the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   this episode by the way no no we are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:30   I already have a title his episode what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   is it I'll tell you afterwards okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   I already picked it I'm queer so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   this week you pick a topic last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:37   picked the title as soon as you pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   topic nice we're out of the game here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   do have a few potential titles Josh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:45   sorry Josh I'm gonna toriel your idols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   I've got one picked Josh tell me tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:51   what they are we'll throw them out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   but yeah I think I think this is um this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   is such an interesting it is you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   is I guess it is a non-technical topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   because it doesn't have to do with fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   wire connectors but it very much is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   think the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   people think about I mean it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:12   almost compare it you can think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:13   the way that Apple does it they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   they really don't engage with people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:20   way that other companies say you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   and that pisses people off right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   people that's exactly the same situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   people think they should engage oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:27   one of those people who think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   should engage but Apple is not a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   so it's kind of like when I say I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   they should engage I have reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33   have to do with it would be better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   the company if you engaged because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   I list a bunch of business reasons it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:38   not the same as an individual but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   the same sentiment is that everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   their expectations of what other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:43   should do in response to their feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   and if they deviate from those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48   they think you know apples a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   because they don't do you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51   don't listen to our feedback or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:52   just put up that Chinese wall or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:53   whatever I don't think that's productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   especially since Apple is not a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56   to engage in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:57   but since Apple is not a person I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   think Apple can use the thing of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   well we got upset when we were engaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   or bother they're not a person is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   inside Apple would love to have a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   open dialogue and I put these people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09   Apple who wish they could keep even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10   stuff secret so as a corporation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   have to talk about does this help hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   the company and in what ways and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   makes its internal calculus and decides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:20   this is the kind of public face we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:21   to put on right and I bet they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:24   have pretty strong arguments to back why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   why they think this is a good idea you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:30   look how successful we've been with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   strategy look at the bad things we avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   look at the good things that we get by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   you know having the Chinese wall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   then you'd come back with like well look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:38   at the app store thing in the NBA and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   the ill-will that you got for just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41   talking about stuff and you can go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   and forth on it but since Apple is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   person it's a much it's a much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   touchy-feely discussion and much more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   a how does this help or hurt your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:51   business discussion follow-up knows no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54   bounds source of truth being handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:59   criticisms virtuous cycle uber critic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02   uber critical those are all good titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:07   they're just not the one I already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08   pick tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:09   let's put them out there all right so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   that's it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   that's it for this episode we'll be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   next week live Eastern Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   do you want to try to pull another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   like you did last time and pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:20   topic topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:21   ahead of time yeah but first let me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   tell them one that when we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:24   be back next Friday 2 p.m. Eastern you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4404">TS</a>]

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01:13:43   are the potentials what are the choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:46   I don't have all the top grades all I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   adding oh my goodness not prepared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:51   look at the topic page you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53   operator I have it up no I'm too focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:56   on the conversation there you go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4439">TS</a>]

01:13:59   is that you that's you there it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   go in there now I added a whole bunch at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   the bottom there oh I got the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   look at this well we've got it we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08   to do don't read them all off each I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11   not gonna read any of them off just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   looking I wouldn't rely wouldn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   - look at this you even have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   archived two previous shows by that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19   you have on the top I'm never gonna pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:22   that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:22   you're never I'm gonna bung it a force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   pick that one eventually because I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:25   you would never pick it but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:26   talk about it I saw I saw Jurassic Park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:29   I don't need to talk about uh-huh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   we're gonna talk about that one we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:32   going to I will eventually force that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:33   one now that I know you're never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:34   pick of it I think people want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   about it because usually someone hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37   about it people want to hear about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:38   can see that one unknown as a park and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:41   that's it we don't have time that's wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   yeah and that we're gonna talk to Ally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   topic are you never gonna pick a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   two - have you ever even read that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:51   I like them yeah yeah yeah right then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   yeah well you didn't read all like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   too long but it was pretty long a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:55   words that's it that's a heavy tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:58   topic and I do want to talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4498">TS</a>]

01:14:59   one that one oh we'll pick um I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:02   like number three I really like number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   three yeah no you keep picking that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   but I have and I like to enjoy Hedwig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:07   wishy-washy things to say that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   number four and I wound umber five is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   new no that's right I thought about was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:15   I had the bottom two and I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:16   know what I'm gonna add that one too I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   think right now all second from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:22   second from the either the bottom to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   mind are my top picks yeah I think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:27   those maybe I can combine them into one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   show but let's do that let's do that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:32   unfocused ideas and I think I just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34   a little bit like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:35   little points to say about each of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   and maybe we'll save the third from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39   bottom for last can we say what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42   no well we can just say that next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45   if Dan wants to pick these we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   to say we're going to walk them along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   with insert well-known company here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   we'll do three company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:51   what's wrong with insert company name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   and the two of them are none of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   Apple yeah we already we do up all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:58   time but they are there I'm sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   sure people will guess the two big ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03   yeah we're the third one in there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   that will make nobody people will cry if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:08   they because no but nobody has that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:09   you ever heard anyone have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:10   discussion no never ever and and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:14   was thinking about like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:15   I'm planning to say well but you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   hear anyone talking ever and I'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   to defend it I will stand up and defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   the 30 times you can't you can't defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   it because I'll defend it it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   I'm going to say for any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:26   companies this company is the devil you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:29   know yeah but I always gonna be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   company is great but just look with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   Apple here it you know Apple is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:35   but made a third company has brute just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37   all they want to do is make people happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   all right just don't give it away well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   do I'm not giving it away I'll put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   in the I'll set them up for next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   company can do no wrong but don't email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   us of what you think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   please we get so many emails you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   practically given it away already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   I have not super smart people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   chat we've already figured it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:57   haven't looked in the chat room to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   if they actually have but I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   they if anyone is still listening they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   figured they are throwing out names and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   I won't even give them I have not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:07   looking at the names so I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:08   it's actually been I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:09   I won't spoil it out but I'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:12   later do look at it and then people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:15   all way up all right so listen that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:18   for this show thanks to to MailChimp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpnNWNW0/4638">TS</a>]

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