9: No iLife is an Island
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this is hypercritical weekly talkshow
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ruminating on exactly what is wrong in
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the world of Apple and related
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technologies and businesses nothing is
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so perfect that it cannot be complained
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or criticized about by John siracusa
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it's my co-host I'm Dan Benjamin we'd
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like to thank
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freshbooks comm online invoicing and
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Rackspace comm for sponsoring this show
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and as I mentioned this is episode
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number 8 9 rather or 8 could be 9 it's 9
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let's go with 9 it's episode 9 and today
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we're going to be talking about well
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first we have follow-up but do we want
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to announce the topic sure yeah
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today we're going to do follow-up on
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both topics from last show the iPad 2
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and the Apple strategy tax and then our
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main topic which will squeeze in if
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there's time is no I life is an island
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yeah this has been on the list for a
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long time since the beginning this is
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one I'm finally glad we with it's just
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the right time to get to it because
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everybody's applauding Apple right now
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as they should be great new stuff coming
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out I think but this they they might
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have gotten some of this wrong so we'll
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talk about that but first we got to do
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this follow up yep did you agree or did
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you order your iPad 2 so my wife
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actually I don't think has officially
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picked which model she's getting
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narrowed down but she went to the store
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today for some reason just to I don't
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know if she was going to buy it on the
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spot or she just wanted to see one or
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whatever but as soon as she saw the
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lines she just turned around and came
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what were the lines like out your way
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I'm guessing pretty bad yeah and and she
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was annoyed that they're not selling
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them or even showing them apparently
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until 5 p.m. right I don't know there
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wasn't any but it was just a giant line
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and she wasn't going to sit there for
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three hours and waiting it to get in
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either buy one or look at one at five so
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I told her not to bother I told her
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we'll wait until the weekend and see
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what it's like but she could not resist
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she was drawn to the store so no I don't
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have one yet maybe the next time we talk
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to you what about ordering went to you
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would you ever consider that no I
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figured out you know pick one up in
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person I didn't want to deal with
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waiting for it to come in the mail
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plus I've got packs all this weekend so
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I'm not going to be around right she'll
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probably get one so by next week I think
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we'll have one assuming stock holds up
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right don't know what the inventory
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situation always a question so a little
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bit of iPad to follow up from talking
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about it last week
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oh one of the things that I meant to
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mention that I saw on Twitter comment
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supplement Twitter I wish I could
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remember who it was because I thought it
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was very smart but it was during the
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keynote when they were showing the turn
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the keynote doing during the press event
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where they were showing that introducing
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the iPad 2 and someone tweeted almost
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immediately when they showed that Smart
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Cover thing with the magnets yeah that
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Apple will make more money off selling
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those covers than any other tablet maker
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will make off selling their tablets Wow
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and that is so true because the margins
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on those covers must be just
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unbelievable especially that's $70
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leather one oh yeah all accessories are
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just you know money factories like it
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maybe it's not as Extreme as it is like
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Best Buy where they are Best Buy sells
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you $2,000 TV they make $20 in profit
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but they sell you a $40 cable and they
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make $30 in profit so basically selling
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that cable is more profit than selling
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that gigantic TV a better analogy might
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even be the movie theater popcorn and
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drinks and snacks which are oh yeah you
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know nine dollars for a drink it cost
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them a fraction of a cent so where
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company I mean but it's different in
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Apple Apple so they can huge money on
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both of them but you just look at those
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accessories man you know like it's
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unbelievable and and it came up back to
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me again this week because a friend of
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mine at work was asking me about I was
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thinking about getting an HDMI adapter
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for an iPad or but then you know it's
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$40 so he get that HDMI adapter for the
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iPad so we could see his iPads picture
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on his television like with the MLD APIs
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or whatever yeah or he'd get an Apple TV
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for $100 so the HDMI adapter it's not
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half the price of the Apple TV but it's
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creeping up on being half the price of
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an Apple TV or it's half the bicep like
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a refurb Apple TV mm-hmm that's a that's
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a strange decision to be making well I
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could I could buy this piece of plastic
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and metal with no active components or I
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could buy an entire Apple TV brand you
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know it's a toss-up kind of because you
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know with the cable yeah it's half the
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price but then you don't get to do
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things wirelessly with the Apple TV you
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accomplish what you wanted which is
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showing your MLB stuff on your
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big-screen TV but you get a whole Apple
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yeah it shows the absurdity I mean I
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wonder those things we'll meet in the
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middle like will the apple TV every 179
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bucks but then like the new you know
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fund report adapter for the iPad 3 is
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gonna be you know 69 I was a $10
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difference some sort of a singularity
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happening here all and I think my
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brother was the one who noted a while
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back through the new price point for not
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being able to walk out of the Apple
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store with it used to be 30 bucks like
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nothing in the store was less than $30
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now it seems like it might be increasing
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because that HDMI adapter is 39 I guess
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they're still thanks for $30 sure there
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are like Ana I think the I think the
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iPad dock is 29 do you know if they
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still have that you and they came out
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with a new one they did yeah they came
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out with with a new iPad to dock so
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people are our beloved nerds our good
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friends in chat room are asking if I got
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one I did I ordered it this morning I
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got a 32 gig black Wi-Fi only with the
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gray cover which is a cover it's a
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leadership ya the cover shipped so I'll
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have that Monday I think you can just
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play what I think you just play with
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that by itself it's almost as good as
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another pen you just open and close it
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on top of like I don't know your desk
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right because it won't work with the
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existing iPads but I can try alright I
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also got the HDMI adapter because I the
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way that we capture video on these shows
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one of the one of the ways that we do
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video on the video the video shows that
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we do is using HDMI capture so it would
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be very cool to be able to capture the
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iPad screen directly this way whenever
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we want to demo an iOS app or talk about
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something on iOS we'll be able to do it
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in a very nice way without having to
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worry about glare or shoulder-mounted
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cameras or any of that madness so I got
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you've got out that yeah but otherwise I
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would mean oh we have
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as of tomorrow we're gonna have three
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Apple TV's here one old one and two new
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ones Big Damn MLB app force my hand
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there they come free with your cereal
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now just to get a free Apple TV at the
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bottom of the box of India first
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purchases here's the problem I I could
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watch the MLB I could watch baseball all
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the time and I needed to you know I
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needed to be I did a requirement I had
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to be able to do that and my wife on the
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other hand although she is actually way
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better than me when it comes to playing
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sports she played sports through high
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school and a little bit in college and
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liked it a team where she was on a team
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at her job for a while and I can barely
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throw straight I mean I don't want to
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talk about it but even that she does not
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enjoy watching as much like she could
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call a game like oh I'll say oh that's
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this guy just triple sparrow he should
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have thrown let you know I mean she
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could do the whole thing but she just
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doesn't didn't enjoy it the way that I
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do but so I have to I had to have one
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Apple TV just for the MLB and then the
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other one after this net why didn't you
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tell me Netflix streaming was so good
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every show my dad ever wanna watch is on
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this thing I guess it's good for kids I
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don't know I get most of my kid stuff
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off the DVR but every time I go on to it
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like streaming I'm disappointed by the
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things that I can only get on disc
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because we have a disc subscription to
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and whenever there's something I hear
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about a Michael that's a really old
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movie in its obscure I'm sure that's an
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instant and it's not and it's all it's
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not Netflix as far as all the content
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owners are there's just so much great
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stuff though on there and especially for
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especially for kids that you know they
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they easy sent me this thing I cancelled
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the subscription of him years ago
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and they sent me this thing we you know
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we'd love for you to come back and try
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it out here try have another free months
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so I did the free month and man there's
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so much great stuff out there and it
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works so nice on the Apple TVs and now
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I'm getting get another one else first
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first world problems we may end up with
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one of those eventually but um see if I
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can hold out for the second gen apple TV
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cuz your TiVo will do it right yeah I
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TiVo do my PlayStation will do it my we
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will do it just everything attached to
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my TV will stream Netflix but not MLB
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not a big baseball guy so nobody's
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perfect
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all right onward yeah so the other iPad
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thing that I saw snowball this week for
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some insane reason is this whole CPU
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issue of what's inside an Apple a5 and a
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last show we talked about it and what I
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basically said my recollection is that I
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was relaying a conversation that I had
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with some people from ARS technica about
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some I think it called them dark horse
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theories about what could be in there
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right now I guess I didn't express
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enough that the obvious answer is that
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it's in 89 like that's what everyone
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just assumes it is the reason we have
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this dark aura theory is like well
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wouldn't it be fun to think about what
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what else could possibly happen before
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we know you know and that's when we
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started talking about well it could be
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to a eight cores inside there because
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Apple is conservative and the only
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information we had was some stats on the
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performance we didn't even know if you
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know the battery size was the same it
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was just mostly just speculation but
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then during the week I saw a story after
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story about I don't know they were never
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attributed to any particular person or
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source but just more speculation about
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you know could it be the different core
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and you know I don't know none of them
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had any information either so I don't
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rating and from listening to people's
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be they look the same externally more or
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components inside that they could they
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a9 in core and there are two eights
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be you know 32 nanometers and the other
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one was 45 or something like that so you
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have no idea what the power draw is I
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fix it hasn't torn one open as far as I
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know yet so we really don't know what's
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going on in there but 99.9% chance it's
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in a nine core as a eight theory was
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really just an amusing possibility to
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think about before we had any
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information it's too bad that we don't
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have the information now and we get her
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to settle once we're all I thought it
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was funny to look at the Wikipedia page
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think I pulled up the Wikipedia page and
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it said flat out the Apple a5 you know
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uses the RMA 9 core and in a time
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really been watching it random people
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someone I just looked at it in
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preparation for this show and I went
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through the history I'm like wow it's
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it's source the story that they heard
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from this thing that and then someone
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changes it back to 89 said no the a
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coherency you know and apples arm
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license doesn't allow that and then some
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will change it back and say you don't
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know what their license huge edit war at
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contains an a9 core or 2a eight cores
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it's that or it could be something else
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really mm-hmm I should have change I
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feel like editing the page and changing
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it to say the Apple a5 contains some
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sort of computing core like we could
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probably say that's true but at this
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the Wikipedia page was saying it was in
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a nine but all these things you know
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they have the little footnotes on
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Wikipedia saying where they're cited
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from they would all cite articles of
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just people guessing like we were on the
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last show so I don't see how that's
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quite a citation but finally is we don't
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to foster this crazy provided
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speculation on the internet because
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agents like a game of telephone and
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eventually you get far enough away from
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whatever the original source was which I
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don't think was us but whoever it was
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eventually the fifth person to report it
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reports it is fact as if someone knows
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something or just flat-out states it as
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if it's you know something that that's
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true right and then people get angry if
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the chatroom is saying that is my fault
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someone else must have I think this is
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something that people would come up with
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on their own simply because they say if
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it's in a nine core how can they be
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getting ten hours a battery life out of
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it and then it's not um so I think I
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said all we had to say for the iPad 2 DM
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can talk more about them but I think
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that's been covered well in other places
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the other thing we talked about last
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week is the the Apple strategy tax this
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had even more feedback than the iPad 2
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stuff thankfully because I think it's a
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lot more media and it was a lot more
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thoughtful and interesting feedback from
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a lot of people most of the feedback
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that I saw said you got it wrong I would
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say it's tough to when you get feedback
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at any issue that's like controversial
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like this or where you're saying
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something bad or something good about
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Apple it tends to pull out the people
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who either are big Apple fans and love
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everything that Apple does and you say
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anything that sounds remotely heartful
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they yell at you or you get the people
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who just hate Apple with a passion
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anytime you say anything remotely bad
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they come out so right on yeah I hate
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Apple Apple killed my dog
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wasn't that an inflammatory of an issue
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mostly what I got were things in the
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middle which were other people being
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thoughtful about it and bringing up you
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to see that so the one point that I
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think I really should have talked about
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both in the article and the podcast that
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didn't get to and it was just because
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it's kind of like sometimes I assumed
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too many things like whatever I'm
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thinking in my head they assume everyone
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else is starting from that same premise
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about Apple which I think everybody
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knows but it would have been a good time
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to bring it up was the reasons Apple is
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like this why does Apple enter these
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businesses why does Apple do what it
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why does Apple make iLife why do they
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why did why did it make Safari why don't
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they use flash you know why do they
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start a bookstore why do they do all the
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stuff and it's rooted in some extremely
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logical thinking and basically Apple has
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in the past gotten screwed over when
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they've relied on other companies to do
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things for them and that goes way way
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way way way back in almost every
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possible important point in Apple's
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history you can find this phenomenon
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going on there you know all the way back
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to I think I wrote something years and
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years ago about at the Apple Adobe
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relationship and how Apple really wanted
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Adobe and Microsoft and others to be on
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board with them to the change to this
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new Rhapsody operating system with the
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new next drive api's and those guys said
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yeah no thanks and that was sort of when
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when Apple's power was was at its lowest
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they really just didn't have any clout
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no one everyone thought they were going
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out of business no one want to have
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anything to do with them
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talk to these other big companies and
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say please we'd really like to make a
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new operating system with an all new API
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will you please rewrite your all your
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apps we rewrite office we rewrite
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Photoshop and they said no and so that's
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why I have to do the carbon thing with
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Mac os10 and all that stuff but you know
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all the way up the line you can think of
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all they relied on Microsoft to create
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their web browser side Internet Explorer
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Adobe to have a Photoshop they basically
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relied on you know relying on other
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companies to make great applications for
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this this iMac that they made you know
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or you know think about relying on other
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companies to make applications for
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digital music players at a certain point
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Apple said we have to show these people
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what what we want to happen no one else
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is going to make the iLife suite for us
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no one else is going to make the
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applications that are going to sell our
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hardware so we're going to do it
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ourselves and show everybody how it's
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done so they made the they made itunes
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they made the iTunes Music Store
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you know they made iLife and said yeah
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this these great computers we have with
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all these features you should make out
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applications like this is what sells
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them and so they made that entire suite
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of stuff I think even started to
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encroach on Microsoft's territory with
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making you know the iWork suite and
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numbers and stuff like that just at this
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point Apple really believes that if you
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want something done right do it yourself
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yeah and you see you see that everywhere
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so this is what's motivating Apple to do
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all these things why does Apple need to
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make a bookstore because they don't want
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because every time they rely on somebody
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else that other party lets them down
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lets them down either by not paying as
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much attention to the to Apple's
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platform as Apple thinks it should or by
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making a cruddy product or just by you
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know letting their products stagnate and
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not and just not giving Apple platform
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all they do that they think it deserves
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so they don't even want to get in that
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situation it's the same thing with flash
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they want they don't want people writing
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flash applications and that becoming
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like the platform that they're that is
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running on all their iPhones and stuff
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because what if Adobe loses interest and
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said no really Adobe's make a strategic
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partnership with Google or with
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Microsoft or something and yeah the the
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flash runtime for iOS is going to kind
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of be left behind and we're not really
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interested in updating that I think
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Apple feels like that already happened
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on the Mac because flash in the Mac for
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years and years was much worse than
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flash on Windows in terms of performance
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this still is yeah and and what could
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Apple do please Dobby we really like it
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if you know we don't we don't like it
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when flash is better in windows makes
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Mac's feel slow it's draining the
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batteries down in our lap can you please
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the Apple today is way way way more
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powerful than they used to be but
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they're still coming from that place
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they still have that sort of corporate
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baggage of thinking if we rely on anyone
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we're going to do our own because we
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think we can make a better book reader
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and that's I think that's an important
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if people aren't familiar with that
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whole psychological factor of the Apple
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sense as to why Apple does all the
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things that it does but that that goes a
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long way towards explaining why Apple
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starts into these businesses we'll just
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remember back before Apple had its own
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successful web browser for example yeah
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they didn't have control of something
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that was so important to their business
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Internet Explorer I five for Mac was a
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great web browser it had better CSS
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support than than any browser on any
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other platform it's a lot of the reason
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why web designers flock to the Mac event
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they've got like the most awesome web
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browser and it's awesome and the things
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that Apple likes like it makes things
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look nicer CSS makes fonts look nice
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it's great you know Apple should be
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happy no matter how good things are
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Apple always is of the mind that yeah
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things are good now like the Kindle app
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is great now and Amazon is putting all
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this money into its iOS stuff now but
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what happens next year the year after
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that the year after that and true to
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form Internet Explorer for the Mac kind
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of started to stagnate and the Mac OS 10
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version was this ugly Carbon port and it
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was kind of gross and Firefox was now
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just getting off the ground it was not
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really Apple style and so how can you
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have a modern platform that doesn't have
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a web browser it's up to your standards
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these oh this is just another another
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time that Apple is learning the lesson
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of you know let's not let other people
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do is we have to do it ourselves right
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it's all about controlling your own
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destiny in a lot of ways yeah now now I
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still believe everything that I said
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last time about the Apple strategy tax
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this this these all these assumptions
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are in my mind when I was writing it I
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just should've expressed them better
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because a lot of people would give
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feedback and say this is why this is why
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you're wrong Apple is doing all this
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stuff it's not painting itself into a
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corner it has to do this because look
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what happened last time and I would say
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that there has to be a limit like you
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have to know you the situation they're
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in now is not the situation they were in
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before and you can't you can't do
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everything yourself
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you can't think that everyone is always
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going to let you down the nature of a
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platform is that you're building
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something that other people can build on
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top of you know everybody needs
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third-party developers and you can't
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just say well no one else can do with
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this as well as we can so if there's any
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remotely significant business we're
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going to do it all ourselves and I think
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that that's why the strategy tax stuff
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is still valid that they're overstepping
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that their neuroses about being let down
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by other partners is causing them to
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overreach and to just go a step too far
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on the strategy tax stuff and
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you feel better yeah I think so I think
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I actually have some more on this really
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but full before you do we'd like to
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and and I was thrilled to do that but
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the part of it and this is that I do not
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enjoy spending time on the
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administrative stuff this is just I
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don't especially things like invoicing
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so this is where fresh books comes in
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this is an easy-to-use online invoicing
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service it will save you a lot of time
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it will get you paid faster and it will
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make you look professional because it
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really looks great it's much better than
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you know coming up with your own thing
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in you know pages or word or whatever
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and like you know sending that that
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looks like garbage this is the real deal
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and getting started is completely free
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go to fresh books calm and you sign up
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for the free account and here's
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something very cool they're doing just
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for hypercritical
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listeners they're going to give away a
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birthday cake every day to somebody who
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signs up from the show so all you need
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to do for chance to win the birthday
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cake it does not need to be your
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birthday I've cleared this with them you
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just show up and now you enter in
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hypercritical when they ask the question
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of how you heard about us and and you
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could win one so do that at fresh books
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calm when you sign up that's it you need
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to invoice anybody though jaunty I do
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need to you know what I use for
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invoicing people I should use an actual
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professional service where I actually
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use is the invoice template in pages
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yeah that's what I'm saying that that's
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in there but how do you keep track of
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that how do you know if they on how do
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you the official follow through it's a
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big man I mean obviously it's not as a
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big problem for me because this is not
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like you know what there's not my
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regular gig and I do so few invoices a
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year but if I had to do more than one or
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two of these a month I would shoot
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myself do it that way it's no good
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well now you can you like birthday cake
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you here's what you do you go sign up
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and then you you bring home a cake you
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tell your kids it's their birthday and
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they're like that it's not my birthday
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like it's your birthday when I say it's
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your birthday eat some cake some one of
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those things where you can't win if
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you're an employee of the now you can
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own this just sign up yeah yeah I feel
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like that's kind of gauche that's why do
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I enter in any Ars Technica contest the
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cake is a lie anyway
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exactly all right a little portal joke
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there Apple strategy texts oh god I have
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somebody still have more on this
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yeah I do I try I try to get through
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quickly um so one of the other things
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that people brought up which I hadn't
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thought up which is a very good point as
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to what's the particular motivation in
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the case of the iBookstore which which i
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think is an overreach what would make it
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Apple overreach that way besides the
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whole we have to do it ourselves because
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what if Amazon never forsakes us and
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that's the whole I into a quick sidebar
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so people love to personify Apple in the
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form of Steve Jobs as in life as in like
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you know the corporate person is this
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actual physical person and they're the
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one in the same and whatever whim he has
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if he likes the color blue Apple will
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change all the buildings to blue because
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he is Apple and Apple is him and we know
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where that comes from the some truth to
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it but it's also kind of ridiculous at a
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certain point but that's how people
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think about it I think it's a bad move
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to think about it like that but it's
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shorthand for a lot of people and so the
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shorthand one person gave me your
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feedback is that Steve Jobs just had to
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be pissed about the Amazon mp3 store
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mostly because the record labels used
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the existence of Amazon as a viable
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music competitor to gain leverage over
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Apple because they were afraid that
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they'd given Apple too much power as the
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distributor of digital music having
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whatever was 70% of the digital music
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distribution market share and they may
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sell amazon amaz that's a big company
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they sell lots of stuff they're great at
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selling things they're a big name and
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they want to do a music store we need to
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go and talk to them because we need some
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sort of leverage against Apple and for a
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while I remember the ammos mp3 store had
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better prices then than the Apple store
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do you remember that yeah and that was
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basically the music store is giving
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Apple in the personified form of Steve
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Jobs two fingers yeah yeah you thought
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you had the power well we're gonna you
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know we're gonna take it back or we're
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gonna have a competitor better deal
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because we like to play you two off of
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each other so it's a good business move
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from the record labels point of view but
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Jobs had to be pissed man
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that I bet Amazon was you know I don't
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know like it's silly to be angry about
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this because it's just business and how
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could he be how could you be you know
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he's an adult he's a business man how
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could he be really be angry but every
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cartoonish caricature of Steve Jobs that
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you see on television or in people
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telling stories makes you think that
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he's the type of person
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that would be all pissy about this well
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how dare they start a music store don't
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they know that we you know our music
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store is better boy I hate them no I
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don't think he's really like that but
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this this is the impression that I get
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from a lot of people who tell me about
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this boy boy jobs and now I hold as a
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group that he holds a grudge now Jobs is
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pissed in Amazon so not only did would
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Apple not want to rely on Amazon but you
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know what F Amazon they they took they
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hurt us in the music negotiations by
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daring to have a music store so we're
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gonna do mean things to them men at
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pupal I don't buy this theory because I
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think it's silly and childish and silly
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and childishness jobs may have been in
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his youth that I feel like he has moved
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way past that by now but behind all that
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is the kernel of truth that business
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relationship wise Amazon finds itself at
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odds with Apple in at least this one
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very recent area and it could have moat
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added to the motivation of saying why
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should we have a book store when Amazon
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is so greater and these other things are
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so great why should we enter that arena
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there's a little tiny prick you know in
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the back of your head even though it's
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not boys to say well they did kind of
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enter our business when they did that
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music store thing so I don't feel so bad
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or it's kind of like this straw maybe
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that broke the camel's back there it
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could just even be subconscious could be
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something they just never even bring up
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or someone brings up at the end of the
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meeting and they all laugh about but
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because like it's not of course that's
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not the real reason we're doing it you
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know we had the real meeting about the
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reasons we're going to do it but you
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know I thought it was a good point Aaron
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point this is a Rory Berger synthesis
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was the whole premise that winning is
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only defined by maximum market share and
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that was that was definitely a premise
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of what I was talking about the strategy
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tacks in that well how can the the
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iBookstore guy do his job because isn't
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his job to be the most successful store
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biggest market share hmm
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and he said well you know Apple Apple
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has low market share and lots of stuff
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they just want to have the most profit I
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I'm not a fan of this theory I think
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that market share isn't everything and
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then you can't you know you can't buy a
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house with market share you want profit
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you want money but I think Apple wants
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both I think they want the big fat
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margins they want the most profit and
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they all
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I want to have the most market share
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because if you don't have those volumes
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no matter how much profit you're making
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although you know that the little corner
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of the market you have without the
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volumes you lose lots of things you got
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to have the volume to get to get the
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good deals to have the power negotiation
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is to get the good parts prices is on
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hardware and stuff but even on software
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on stores to have the leverage against
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the the publishers you need to have the
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volume so I can't imagine a scenario in
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which a big part of that I bookstore
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guys job is to just to get market share
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because you just need to have volume you
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doesn't mean you need to have ninety
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percent and just like crush everybody
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else or a hundred percent but if that
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guy said well we're making tons of
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profit you know but we only have ten
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percent market share but the boy we have
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the most lucrative ten percent I think
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his bosses would say that's good and all
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but we really have no negotiating power
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against the the publishers if we're only
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ten percent of the market so you need to
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like step up your game so that's my take
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on that one more someone brought up yeah
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this is the last one I think I'll skip
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over what we have for the rest of the
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follow up because I have other follow-up
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we can do it too one more Alex Kay
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brought this up a past example of a
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possible strategy tax conflict of
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interest that that hurt consumers and
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that would be the lack of blu-ray
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support on Macs
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basically saying that the theory there
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is that Apple didn't want to put blu-ray
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drives in its max because it didn't want
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to hurt its digital you know
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distribution of movies and stuff yeah
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what do you think about that I don't
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know if I buy it entirely because it
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it's a little bit mixing two things
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there because you could say well they
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did that big zit in one they wanted
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people to buy stuff from the iTunes
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store buy your video from us don't buy
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blu-ray discs because we don't sell
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blu-ray discs but on the other hand it's
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also kind of part of just apples vision
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of the future the reason we all like
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apples that they look ahead and see how
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things should be in the future and they
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just make that happen as soon you know
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sooner rather than later
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and by not putting blu-ray in there they
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were signaling the digital distribution
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is the future and whether you buy from
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us or not we're not doing this out of
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selfish you know reasons it's mostly
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just because we think in the future disk
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putting bits on discs is silly and dumb
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and it we should make we should hasten
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its demise as much as possible and I'm
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fine to say that I don't think first of
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all I don't think this move actually
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helped Apple sell more videos on the
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iTunes Store because if people wanted
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discs they were going to get discs even
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if their max wouldn't play them I think
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that's such a small market of people
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playing movies on their on their max it
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hurt apple a little bit in the
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professional media production market
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where they wanted blu-ray because they'd
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have to produce them as part of their
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work and that max couldn't understand
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them so they had to buy external drives
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and stuff but I'm inclined to say that
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it is not an example of strategy shacks
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and is more of an example of like Apple
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ditching the USB ports hmm it's pretty
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much like that where they said look the
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future is going to be USB let's forget
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about all these other interfaces let's
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drop them from machine to force everyone
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to move along and that's what they were
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doing with the lack of blu-ray pay no
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attention to the blu-ray yeah and also
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on our already to the next step
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just ignore we want to want to move the
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ball down the field there's this I'll go
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along with that yeah ah that's the best
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reason I've heard so far we have three
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more items to follow up and I'll just
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tell you that the names then we'll skip
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them okay hey you love the teases the
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iPhone 5 and antenna design will say
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that for next week oh that's a good one
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the MacBook Pro which I'll just do is
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when I was takes two seconds and I quote
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pros apparently can be can have 16
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gigabytes of RAM in there if you put in
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SuperDuper expensive 8 gigabyte DIMMs
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right and what will - a gigabyte DIMMs
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run you apparently about 1600 bucks so
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the limitation on new sell CPU is
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apparently that just has two memory
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channels rings Apple could not add more
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DIMM slots even if there was room this
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is my understanding but and you can get
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16 gigs but you pay through the nose for
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it so I'm sure someone that's out there
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needs those 16 gigs and it's good to
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know that it's possible if you're
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willing to pay through the nose ah and I
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got one more but it's too minor so we'll
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skip it entirely
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good good riddance today I say do we
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have any time for the actual show today
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I think we do why I only got less than
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30 minutes on this tonight yeah 35 yeah
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all right
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no I life is an island and the subtitle
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what was the subtype I lost the subtitle
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I'll find it in a second you can edit
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out this pause no I like it it's very
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you know it's real shows
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shows that you're not the you know and
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all my people think you are I had all my
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webpages up but then I closed them and
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discussed when you relate I can reopen
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your ID all right
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no I life is an island apples ongoing
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failure to recognize how its best
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customers actually use its products
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mm-hmm just reading that if you were one
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of the people who shares my complaints
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you may already know like everything
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that I'm about to say but if you don't
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share my complaints that sounds you
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don't know what I'm going to talk about
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this doesn't sound like it makes sense
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so I think this is the way into this
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topic the way in is to think about how
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Apple Pictures people using its products
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and you can go pick any error in Apple's
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history after Jobs is returned to say
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like what what do they expect people to
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do so sort of at the dawning of the new
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fancier Mac's or the IMAX and basically
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and the iLife suite in particular is
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this my impression of how they pictured
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it and how they would show it in the ads
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is you your family or whoever go into an
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Apple store you buy a Mac you get the
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iLife suite bring it home and you take
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pictures of your kids you take movies
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your kids you make music whatever every
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time you use some device your iPod or
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your iPhone or your digital camera or
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your camcorder wherever you hook it up
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to your Mac it imports the stuff into
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their great applications it organizes
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your stuff lets you share them with
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Grandma lets you video chat with people
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you know you bring all your stuff
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together and that's how you integrate
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Apple's products into your life and they
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make your life better because now you've
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got this great place to manage all your
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memories and all your media and to
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create things and to do interesting
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things with iMovie and to share it with
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everybody over the internet using all
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Apple software all Apple hardware that
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seems to be what they want and expect to
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happen and way back when that was that
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seem valid especially like in like
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1998-99 when the iMac first came out
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it's like yeah I'm going to buy this
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computer it'll be a family computer this
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is what we'll do with it but what
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actually happens and especially among
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the crazy Apple nerds is that they
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brought home that Mac even if they
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weren't crazy Apple learns they become
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crazy app learns they bring home the Mac
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like oh this is great you know I'm doing
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things I've never done before making
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movies I'm cutting things together and
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use digital media this is on master of
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the universe I love computers and what
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is that you know then the mom wants a
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Mac or then the dad wants one or then
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the kid wants one or something I said
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alright well yeah but I love next I have
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these laptops let's get one of those
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looks kind of like a toilet seat but
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whatever we'll get it for you you know
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and then you can have this in your room
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and I can have that there and then you
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know I want to use a separate computer
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for Bill ping so you know so these these
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are apples best customers
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people who just love the products and
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they get one and they realize how
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wonderful it is and they want more and
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so you know every member of the family
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has one now that may sound crazy even
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you know in the late 90s or certainly in
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the 80s that that every member of your
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family would have a computer that
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there'd be a husband computer wife
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computer each kid has a computer that's
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just Fantasyland you know when we were
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but and a little bit of apples mindset
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you know in all their ads was like no
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there'll be one computer in your house
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and all gather round and we'll do stuff
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on and you'll take turns and stuff once
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everybody has a computer though apples
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model starts to break down really badly
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and the best example I think the most
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common one is that if you're a family
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and you have to max maybe you just
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bought a new one and there's like the
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old one is still floating around but you
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will eventually end up with two backs
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you don't even have to be Apple's best
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customer you just you're just an apple
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customer eventually you will have to max
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but you still just have one family and
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when you go and take pictures on
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vacation or something you have to
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connect your camera back to a computer
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to put those pictures on and you're not
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going to connect this to computers and
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put the pictures in both places you just
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want to do it once but then then you've
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got what you basically done is
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designated one computer in your house as
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the iPhoto computer or the aperture
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computer or whatever you know you're
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probably not using aperture but that's
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the picture computer so what happens
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and organize them but someone else is
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paying bills or I'm writing a paper or
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whatever you'll just have to wait it's
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like well you've got to max there but
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someone is hogging the iPhoto computer
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and and ditto for every other thing I'm
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syncing iPods is another example you
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know you can only this was from way way
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back you know they said well to combat
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piracy you can only connect your iPod to
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one computer and that's like it's
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computer I'm we did that so that you
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won't go over your friends house with
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your five monstrous five gig iPod I'll
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get into there too right
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and give them all your music illegally
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yeah you don't want to that don't steal
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music guys so they said that what we're
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going to do your iPod is home up to one
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computer and what that means basically
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is that if there's some new song it
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comes out you want to quickly go onto
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iTunes and buy it because you're a great
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Apple customer and you're just the
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single comes out you want to buy it for
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$0.99 and someone is using the computer
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the iTunes computer the computer that
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your iPod is synced with you have to
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wait doesn't matter that you have four
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Macs in your house it you've now tied
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specific functions to specific Macs and
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this is what I mean by no iLife is an
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island realistically families exist and
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families have many pretty people who
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produce content and many people who want
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to manage it even if it's just husband
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and wife and they wanted you know one
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the husband wants to organize vacation
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photos but the wife wants to you know
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browse the web or do something else you
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have the shuffle machine so that okay
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well if you want to do photo
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organization you have to do it over here
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right and when when this happened I'm
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like okay well it's 1998 it's 2000 2001
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Apple you know still getting used to the
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idea that they're going to be selling
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lots of Macs into homes or that this
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this phenomenon is gonna happen but
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surely they'll eventually realize how
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real people use their products surely
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they'll eventually have some sort of
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solution for dealing with this and the
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best they came up with and how many
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years it's been almost 10 years it has
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been to make content viewable from other
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Mac so you know my wife can see the
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pictures from the iPhoto computer on her
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Mac but she can't edit them she can't
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organize them and yeah she can drag them
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over to copy them but that takes forever
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and now you got your pictures in two
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places and you're trying to you know
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there's no good family-friendly solution
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to doing this and it's one of those
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ridiculous issues where Apple is not
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serving the customers that just want to
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give it money hand or if it's like we
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want to buy Macs we want to buy I pause
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we want to buy everything we want to we
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want to have a whole house full of your
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stuff we just want it to work together
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and you know it still hasn't come and I
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don't see it anywhere on horizon but
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every time I do anything with iLife or
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anything having to do with media my
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computer it burns me that this mindset
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of one computer one device still
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permeates their entire product line the
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iPods in particular burn because it's
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not even DRM on the music anymore and
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yet if you plug your iPod into another
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computer you can't buy something in that
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computer and stick it on your iPod
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because that would be crazy
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yeah it really it I would much rather
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have it be an account level thing for
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the sinking when it comes to the sinking
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anywhere une Mac you can go on when you
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sign into your account at a little work
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with that because right now it's like
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it's it's like this like we've got you
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know I've talked about and we have an
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iPad that's sort of like the family iPad
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that my wife my little kid will use and
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really I'm the one that gets all the
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apps and sets everything up
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so my wife or my little boy they'll have
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to Excel well we want this app you know
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can you get this one and she even though
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she is you know a college graduate she
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can not buy an app because it sucked up
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to my machine you know what I'm saying
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it it's it's me I'm sorry
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step up still the apps are at least a
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step up because at least if you buy an
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app once now makes you resign yourself
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to the ridiculous thing of using a
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single Apple ID for all your devices
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used ads Apple ID in every single
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because my Apple ID is the one we use on
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all our devices then at least when I buy
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my wife put it on her iPod and it is
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kind of perverse that her iPod is logged
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into my Apple ID right that's a leap but
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that's that's still better than at least
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they're letting it be shared around but
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what would be the equivalent of the
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iLife Island scenario would be is that
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if I bought the app and that she'd have
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to buy it again a different account to
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get it on her iPod and she could never
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you know but what's annoying though is
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that is that most families this is this
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is such a common problem this is this is
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the frustrating way that it is for
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everybody this isn't this isn't an edge
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case usually you describe edge cases
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usually you know it started out as an
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edge case because who had all these
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Mac's but like neva tably if you aren't
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an apple customer vanished any stripe
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you will buy a new Mac and your old one
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you probably won't throw in the garbage
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it'll probably still be in the house in
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I like the fact they had the migration
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assistant that was a big problem area
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that they did address and I what I felt
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like was a reasonably timely manner in
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the migration system just keeps getting
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better and better to the point where I
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actually started using it which is was a
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big step for me because I was always a
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manually bring over your stuff I would
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like may and we put the prep files in
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place many wait I would tweak thing at
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individual file levels I knew where
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everything went and I finally decided to
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give the the migration assistant a try I
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think it was Snow Leopard was the first
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time I did or maybe was leopard and damn
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that thing doesn't just work right so
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that doesn't recognize
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scenario that your customers have they
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buy new Mac they don't they don't have
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the knowledge to to do what I used to do
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with manually drag files over you know I
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remember doing that back from the system
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six days just manually putting files
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over to create my new hard drive
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nobody does that you know regular people
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won't do that so they made this
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migration assistant they made it really
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easy use and it works so they recognized
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that need but well they didn't recognize
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is that you can't just you know tying
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iPhoto to a single computer is a
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non-starter even if you bring the whole
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library over and hey I got this new Mac
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and look there's my old photos that's
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great but now all your old photos was
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still on your old Mac and I got the
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photos in two places and I you've got
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the split-brain scenario where humans
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aren't good at keeping track of all that
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vacations in this computer that's what
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happens to people they end up with stuff
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on both computers so that's all here but
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that's over there but when I come home
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for the park I put the pictures of
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little Joey on this computer but you can
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copy them over the air then you lose my
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ratings but I cropped & rotated them
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over here too so make sure you get the
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copies but oh just a gigantic mess and
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syncing is really hard and Apple sucks
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at it that's all the show but I don't
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even think they have to sync I think
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they just need to I would be happy as a
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first step to just instead of making one
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computer the iLife computer or the
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iPhoto computer make it the iLife server
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and then at least you know have
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everything just on the one computer in
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the requirements now all that computers
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needs to be on someone else can be
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logged into it doing something else on
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it but just that computer needs to be on
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and then the other the other computers
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can can possibly painfully over the
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network at least be able to slowly
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manipulate things organize photos add
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ratings put keywords in you know
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whatever you're going to do do two
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places in our or the faces thing or what
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you know there's so much you can do so
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much metadata that you can provide that
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you want to be able to write when you're
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in that sort of I'm organizing my photos
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make a little album of it you know push
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the album up to the web I web is the
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same way iWeb is kind of a train wreck
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but it's the same type of deal we use
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iWeb for our family website just because
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we pay for dot Mac and we want something
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that's password protected for privacy
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and Iowa fits the bill but horrible
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horrible program but we have one
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computer that you can do iWeb from
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that's the iWeb computer and if you just
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want to put in a new little blog post
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you can't do it from any computer except
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for that computer and that particular
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count on that particular computer so
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it's a double whammy
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all these island type things are places
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where apple just doesn't get something
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that seems to be in Google's DNA the
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whole you know network computer sinking
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damn arid I'm that's also another show
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topic but this this is a minor
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manifestation of them not getting that
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and you know I didn't complain about it
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for years because I figured first the
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first thing you have to do is make good
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app that people want to use and then you
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know refine it and you know go through
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one two or three versions but I feel
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like I will do that like they made the
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iLife suite and they made it better and
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now it's pretty darn polished at some
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point you have to address this and I
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gave them many years before you know I
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cut them a lot of slack to say they've
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got more important things to do this is
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and you said this isn't an edge case but
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I thought you know this is kind of an
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edge case especially back in the
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beginning that you can't you know the
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Nerds can't go demanding their pet
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obscure feature in version one or even
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version 2 or version three but we're on
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you know the fourth and fifth revisions
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and some apps like iMovie have been
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totally rewritten at least once already
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it's time for them to do something about
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this what was now suggestin well now we
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can insert the usual fantasy scenario
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where we take the North Carolina
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datacenter once again we hook it up in
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there and we say well the North Carolina
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datacenter that will solve this problem
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because surely Apple is using that to
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insert whatever it is you want to Apple
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to do so in this case I won't sir
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actually doing that I would think but
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yeah they could do a server side
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one computer is that you don't have to
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scary you can make it more like it's
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like home sharing but it's readwrite you
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know use some existing paradigm that
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it just appears in your sidebar of your
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application you can see these other
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people's libraries or whatever the same
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way it works now but it's got to be
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faster because it's dog slow even over a
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wired Gigabit Ethernet and you know it's
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got to be it's got to be read/write so I
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don't care how they mask it and how they
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put it into the the application and
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whether they call it a server what
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they probably don't want to because it's
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too intimidating whether they just call
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it Home Sharing version to whatever they
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want to do marketing wise but we just
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need to get families out of this
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struggle of having a bunch of different
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islands in their house but bunch of
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different media spread all over the
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place and by the way while they're in
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there stop the ridiculous thing where
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you can only plug the iPod into one
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computer that drives me nuts like I was
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in the podcast on the way to and from
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work and sometimes the podcast will come
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out when I'm at work and I have my iPod
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with me and I'm a little stupid USB
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adapter because the shuffle doesn't have
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one and I would love to download that
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podcast on my work Mac plug in my Maya
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you know a little iPod shuffle put the
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podcast on it for the ride home but I
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can't because if I plug my shuffle into
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my computer at work my options are
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erased the whole thing or just listen to
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what's on and if you had an iPhone you'd
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be able to do that yeah I'm just saying
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like yeah the iPod what about an iPod
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Touch on an iPod touch you can do that
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too right you can download the podcast
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on the on the iPod touch so yes I was I
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use the shuffle for commuting just
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because it's small and you know I don't
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care if it gets dropped in the ground or
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whatever
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sure or Don but or more likely he get
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mugged and get mugged in the commute but
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but yeah that that burns me is that uh
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you know I am the quote-unquote owner of
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both computers I have the account it's
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the same Apple ID logged into both ones
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the music is not even a pay thing it's a
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free podcast you know on the web and yet
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I can't stick my ipod into this computer
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and put a podcast on it and go home
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without erasing the entire thing and
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that's just that's like a ridiculous
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legacy embarrass you think that'll
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change ever I think the more likely
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scenario is that the non-touch ipods
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will just go away yeah and and then you
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know a problem solve we don't have a
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limitation anymore because within iOS
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you could just download it right onto
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your thing you don't have that problem
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yeah that's depressing to me though this
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is a limitation they just can't be
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bothered to fix because that product
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line is like well it does what it does
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it's fading away let's concentrate on
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iOS I'll be a while we'll have to wait a
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while for that don't well speaking of
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speaking of waiting actually that's a
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good segue we'll do our second sponsor
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waiting is for chumps can you agree on
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that John
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sure so why why wait on on your images
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your videos JavaScript and CSS to
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download from traditional origin
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locations instead John you know you
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should use a see the end that's right I
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heard you say that Rackspace is
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partnered I was taking a drink well I
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heard I heard CDN like that CDN
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Rackspace is partnered with Akamai on
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their global CDN to make waiting forever
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for file download sitting in the past so
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if your web developer if you're a
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designer if you're a programmer and
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performance of your site actually
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matters to you you should check out
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Rackspace cloud files it's affordable
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and the Akamai CDN is bundled at no
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additional charge so you can stop
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waiting you can learn more about this at
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Rackspace cloud comm and visit visit the
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site and take a look around and try it
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out that's it stop waiting you know CD
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ends I'm always annoyed when people
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don't you see the ends now aren't you
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kind of annoyed if you go to a website
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that you feel like is a big website and
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you realize that not using a CDN well it
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doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense
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because they're setting themselves up to
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for failure it's not like it spends if
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it's 2011 it did I sleep it's cheaper
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but that's why use a CDN because if you
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have to pay for your own bandwidth and
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you had even remotely popular site it's
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ridiculously expensive it's cheaper to
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put the stuff on the CDN and put it near
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the edge closer to people but also the
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existence of CD ends is kind of like
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it's like a symptom of the of the
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internet like it's like a failure in the
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internet itself that CDNs are necessary
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and they are definitely necessary
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because they are and it's private
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businesses making money off Annie that's
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there which is it would be much better
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if these read-only files were closer to
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our customers and the internet by itself
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can't do that for you so businesses are
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built on the Internet to do that are
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called CD ends and they've just become
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just mandatory for like every business
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that wants to have anything to do with
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content and I guess it's a thriving
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ecosystem of lots of different companies
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competing and I guess we're seeing
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competition work but it seems almost
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like it's and I know you can't call it a
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flaw on the internet but it's it's
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almost like if you were building the
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Internet - or in Vegas they already
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built that Internet three or four or
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five you would say well what we've
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learned now
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is that there is this class of data that
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benefits from being closer to the
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customers and massively distributed so
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we need to build that into the network
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itself because it's such a common need
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and you know yeah just the idea that
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there are thousands of people
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downloading the same thing from servers
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that are not geographically close to
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them at all and it just it seems so old
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old-fashioned it yeah and that same
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data's gotta go twenty hops around the
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world to that person and then the guy in
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the house next to him does the same
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thing and he asked for the same data so
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all I back across the world and gets it
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CDN is a way to go so some dupe dooba I
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don't know how to say this guy Dobie W
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anyway one of the our friends the Nerds
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of the chatroom says that wouldn't it be
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cool I'm paraphrasing it wouldn't be
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cool if and when Apple does this this
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stuff in the cloud they would have to
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have a little Nass box that would sort
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of cash everything in your in your local
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on your on your land and people still
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say land yeah
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there's no no better word for really
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people still don't say when regular
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people don't only IT people do but
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people do still say land that would be a
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note product like a little thing all it
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does is just cache the stuff that you
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you frequently access well that's
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actually that's actually it's being in
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the North Carolina data center I've seen
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a couple stories floating around about
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this and I think that they're probably
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on the money because it I think this is
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coming uh the idea getting rid of
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another ridiculous limitation in apples
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sort of iTunes i life thing which is
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that if you bought a song from itunes
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and you've lost it because you
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accidentally deleted it or whatever
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Apple was like yeah too bad about that
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you want to buy it again and that's not
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true of applications yeah even though
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Apple you know I remember one night the
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App Store first came out were like well
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if I already bought this what should I
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do I mean it doesn't seem to recognize
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that I bought it before it just has a
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Buy button I don't I don't want to buy
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it again I just want it in the people
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like no no I just hit the Buy button
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it'll bring up a dialog that says oh it
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looks like you've already bought this
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would you like it for free and that
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still freaks people out to this day
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anyone new to iOS if you tell them well
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I went on this other thing and and even
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though I bought a ready can I have it
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all you can't just hit the Buy button
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you sure
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you sure I'm not buying again no you're
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not buying again trust me and they hit
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the button and they get a little
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friendly dialogue that says it looks
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like you already bought this again and
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they feel relief that's kind of a bad UI
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for the whole experience maybe is
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intentionally that way but it's much
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better than the itunes experience
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whereas if you lose your song tough luck
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now coming for someone who did a digital
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media store or way back in the year 2002
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in the midst of time I work for an
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e-book company that was one of the
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biggest benefits that we would sell to
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people said yet you buy this digital
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softness so what if I lose my file what
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if my hard drive gets corrupted website
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now don't worry we keep track of
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everything you bought at digital we have
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a record we say you bought this that and
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the other thing if you ever want to
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redownload your book just come to your
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bookshelf page big big selling point of
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the website go to your bookshelf you
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know you have ownership of these things
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redownload any book you've ever bought
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we keep track of everything forever and
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ever it's your bookshelf it's just like
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having a bookshelf at home these ebooks
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are real books you know you can make a
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collection of them and they say boy
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that's great I can redownload whatever I
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want they feel more comfortable about
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the experience of buying this digital
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media which is sort of you know
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ephemeral to them and they're afraid it
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might go away in a puff of smoke at any
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moment which is true
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listen to the back up show so the fact
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that Apple came out with a music star
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we're like well I remember I was hearing
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about the I can start like surely
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they'll do that same thing because like
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this the whole point of making a digital
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media store is you just want the other
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day why would they not do that why would
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I not do that now the reason they didn't
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do that as far as I've been able to
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glean is that not because Apple is
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stupid about digital media but because
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the people that were making a deal with
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the record labels had crazy notions
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about everything and one of their crazy
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notions was all right Apple will give
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you some music that you can try to do
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this crazy digital download thing with
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but but we're only going to let you in
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the contract let a customer download
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that song once so they pay you $0.99 you
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give a 60 cents or whatever and then you
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let them download that song one time you
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do not let them download it again
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because I heard for my grandson the
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downloading a thing more than one time
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means more than one person is getting
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him rent so one download per song and I
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believe according to all the vague
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smokey rumors that I've read that that
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was somewhere either was or still is
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somewhere in all their music contracts
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one download per purchase now you can
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bet Apple has been trying as hard as
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they possibly can with all their deals
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if this if it's even true that this was
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in their contract to say look guys this
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one download for song thing it's
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ridiculous
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we're selling more music than Walmart
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for you guys we have 70% of the market
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can we just get that Clause out of there
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because it's stupid and it just makes
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people pissed off on their hard drive
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dive and lose all their music and they
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come to us and they say you know oh I
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want my music backs and we have to go
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you know no backsies because look at the
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agreement that you clicked on it says if
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you lose your music tough lock and it
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does all say that and everything and
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sometimes they'll say okay well we'll
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give you I've heard some some people who
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have been successfully able to tell
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Apple that they would like some music
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they already purchased and Apple would
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like you know sort of give it to them
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hush-hush okay here you go and I've
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heard and I did this is I haven't heard
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this from an Apple person but I've heard
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this like out there that third hand yeah
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third hand that one there's like a one
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time we will give you everything you
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bought claws like once if you if you if
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you lose everything and I think this is
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set up for those cases of catastrophic
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failure I had a computer it was a some
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kind of Mac and it crashed I had a
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problem I don't really understand it but
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they gave me a new Drive and now all my
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music is gone and I hate you and they'll
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say don't hate us you can have it all
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back everything that you bought from us
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but only once customer service people
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want to have something in their back
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pocket yeah more service that you can
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pull out in the extreme cases where you
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can just really make the person happy
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now how they work that out with the with
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the labels and this mythical contract
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clause that may or may not exist I don't
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know but we both heard of that happening
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but the rumor going on now also tied to
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North Carolina data center as all rumor
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as all apple rumors must be it's like
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area 51 now the data so you gotta have
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something to that base you know is a big
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deal lots of money it's an actual
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physical building so you can think about
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it's like it's there man there's a
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building it's gotta be something in
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there aliens I don't know the thing is
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that they're going to say well what
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Apple is going to do now is not a
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subscription service like Rhapsody where
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you got unlimited music for a monthly
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fee or something like that but what
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they're going to do is finally say that
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anything you purchase to us applications
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music whatever
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we will now expose the fact that we have
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a record of that because obviously Apple
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does have a record of it and lets you
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redownload that from wherever you are so
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if you set up a new Mac and you say hey
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all that stuff that about me I can start
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put it on this Mac now it will go out to
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the magical Apple servers and say oh
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here's all the songs that you bought put
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them onto that Mac same you know
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authorization for the Apple ID and fair
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play and all that business or you know
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not fair play in the case of music
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without be around these days but for the
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movies and everything like that Apple
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you know the rules will all be the same
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it'll just simply be that they that your
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stuff has a server-side incarnation and
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that the rumors about this data center
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go all the way up to saying just oh now
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to let you read down your music to say
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everything is going to be on the search
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everything you just look there all your
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photos all your eye movies like
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everything uh the probabilities
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everything plans is that most of the
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world does not have you know FiOS
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connections like the privileged few
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so anything that requires you uploading
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75 gigabytes of video of your kid is
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probably untenable for people with a
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crappy cable modem that only does you
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know one megabit up or something
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but that's that's the far end of the
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rumor the closer ram which i think is
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much more reasonable as to say that
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whatever they're going to call this next
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iteration of itunes is going to have a
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server side component and at the very
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least it will let you start finally
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redownload enough to vol ready purchased
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I hope it's not more than that I hope
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they do give some sort of server side
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solution but I'm always wary when Apple
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delves into the server side realm
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because historically they have not
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there's not been their strengths or is
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the the euphemism that I heard in my
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youth was that their expertise lies
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elsewhere on this whole syncing for but
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you know the but and and I I that seems
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to be the case if you look at if you
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look at mobile me and before it dot Mac
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anything that had to do with syncing
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which always really just piss-poor yeah
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well that that's that's a hard problem
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and the Google solution just thinking
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not to do that show now but the Google
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solution to syncing is there is no
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syncing there is only the server and
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yeah obviously Google does syncing but
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it's a philosophical difference follows
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all the differences that in Google's
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case the canonical representation of
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your data is on the server and your
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client is if anything just a simple
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cache yeah whereas apples vision
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the world rooted in the time before the
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internet had become as prominent as
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Anytus is that your stuff is on your
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computer and the server side component
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is a way station for us to transfer to
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other computers her to back it up or
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whatever right at scenario you have to
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do syncing because then you've got two
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Macs and we just said that the Mac is
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the canonical place so now you have two
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Macs and they have to sort out who knows
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what and get it all you know and
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technically speaking there's
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technically speaking there's
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the difference is between these two blur
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very quickly but philosophically
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speaking if you come at it from the
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perspective that the computer is
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canonical you make different decisions
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than the Google thing where that where
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server-side is canonical I think long
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term server side being canonical is the
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right decision but lots of people don't
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feel that way you see a lot of pushback
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on Google with like I don't know my
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stuff in the cloud I want to have a
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local copy I want to feel like I own it
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and never mind that technically
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technical difference being the two may
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blur to the point where there is no
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distinction and that all your data is in
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both places on both platforms but people
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who are afraid of Big Brother or
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whatever are don't like that about
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Google going to like the lack of control
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and and and they have reasons not to
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like it like that recent thing where up
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under Gmail users apparently lost all
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their mail right for at least for a
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period of time and then they were able
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to restore some right but you don't know
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like when that happens like people are
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still like what am I going to get it
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back because there are some cases where
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people don't get their data back and so
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there's still that barrier to overcome
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so apples still firmly in the camp of
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like your computer is yours we sell you
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the stuff it's on your computer and
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that's and that's the real
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representation if we give you services
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to help with that don't worry we're not
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stealing all your data and we're
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certainly not going to say that we're
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the only place where your data is kept
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those like it's three topics in one yeah
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not bad
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oh and and we're right in an hour too so
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nobody can shout at us you know good
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work man and your app acts all weekend
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so you house house packs been crowded
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yeah again I feel like you know that
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that scene in Jerry Maguire where he's
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in the hotel room by himself at night
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with like the fever and the blanket
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around them you know it comes up he
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comes up with a mission statement with
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the memo I went I'm a pax I just I sit
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in that fever and I'm like listen listen
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listen less money fewer tickets you know
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that one with it because they can't even
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look good that's what I want out of pax
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I wanted to make less money and sell
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fewer tickets because they moved from
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the hinds Convention Center which is a
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sort of a medium sized to small
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convention center to the big giant I
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don't know what it's called but the big
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giant Boston expo convention center
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which is just massive
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but then they just sold more tickets and
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that's not the way you know I said well
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last year was everyone's complaining his
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lines were too long and it was crowded
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it was crazy you couldn't move so don't
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worry we're going to a bigger Convention
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Center next year I don't know what the
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ratios are all I know is that I waited
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on some monster lines today and the
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bigger Convention Center I guess helped
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you feel less crossed aerobic and
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certainly gave the lines lots of room to
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stretch out put some just hour-long
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monster lines wait an hour only to be
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turned away in the last 600 yards
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because the closed the door then you got
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to go to the overflow room then you guys
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start waiting on the other line and it's
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just yeah well so but I still enjoy it
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still enjoy hanging out with the Nerds
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seeing the Nerds talk seeing what there
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is to see but I just wish that they
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would sell fewer like out and of course
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I would like it if they were just up the
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price you know you want to sell fewer
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tickets so if your dick is charged more
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that was Jerry's theory too you know
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fewer clients but we'll treat them
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better and we'll charge them more
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presumably but you know what happened to
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him you gotta fire so obviously I don't
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know how to run a convention I just wish
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it wasn't quite as crowded but yeah I
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will be there all week all weekend
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waiting in lines I'll have fun there and
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we'll be back for our regular time next
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week Friday at noon Eastern right I hope
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you don't have any more big packs
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conferences to go to and I I won't
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injure myself again we'll say okay
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that's a promise so thanks everybody for
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tuning in if you liked the show whatever
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you've been doing for this show on
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iTunes has been working because as we
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were mentioning before the show started
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this shows new and noteworthy again or
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just noteworthy I guess I think people
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have been downloading a lot but there
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have been a lot of reviews coming in so
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if you liked the show you should leave
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like a 2 or 3 line review in there I
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don't know how much that helps but no it
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helped no it really helps it really kind
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of bothered that this like you know
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comment section on because I'm used to
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everything I do have a comment section
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hanging off the bottom of which is also
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another show topic that we'll get to
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eventually but since there's no comic
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section comment section on the podcast I
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read the reviews on the guide to
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instinct it's my form of feedback on
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there's nothing there I feel sad yeah
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when we don't want to said John
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of course by asking for comments I'm
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also simply asking for people to
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increase the number of bad comments
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which will make me sad too but I like
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bad comments again that's another show
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topic I should add to list if you didn't
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know it was already there the whole
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online thing and if you can persuade me
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to do comments cuz I haven't I'm not
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sold I mean I wouldn't do it on the 5x5
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site because comments means you have to
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have moderators it's just how big like
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you know what the deal is there at least
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what I would not try to persuade you to
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do that but I'm just saying that by
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their nature podcasts are not our medium
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that happens over audio and it's not a
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web page somewhere and definitely
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another day another topic for another
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day yes so thanks John have a great
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weekend
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