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this is hypercritical
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a weekly talkshow ruminating on exactly
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what is wrong in the world of Apple and
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related technologies businesses nothing
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is so perfect that it can't be
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complained about and scrutinized and
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criticized by none other than John
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siracusa whom you may know from his work
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at ARS technica or by Mead and Benjamin
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and today this is episode number 5
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what's our topic today John you pick two
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topics this time we'll I'd me pick so
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you're trying to push the onus on to me
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a bit but no problem with that I can
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narrow down from two I liked both topics
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so much that I got I found myself
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getting kind of giddy about talking
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about both of them either of them and I
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didn't know which one you wanted more so
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I picked the other one which one did you
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think I think you want the UI
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consistency one but I that's not my
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favorite and I'm not sure how much I
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have to say on it right now so I picked
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the other one and what was the other one
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the other one was Apple's Hardware blind
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spots ah okay I act to be honest I
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really don't know that I had a favorite
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either way but I'm thrilled to talk
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about that and so what does that mean
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Hardware blind spots uh are we skipping
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the follow-up is this what you're saying
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no oh yeah we got to do our follow-up
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I'm sorry no I'm not saying that let's
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follow alright like I try to rush
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through follow-up there is backup
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related follow-up here I could push it
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off for another show if you want or I
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could just go through the items in order
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no let's let's do all the follow-up
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we'll do it all it would all we'll see
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how that goes all right so uh I think
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was it last week or two weeks ago that
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we talked about Lian
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I thought lion was last week yeah
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probably was so there's a little follow
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up on that we were discussing whether
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spaces that was two weeks ago do weeks
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ago episode basis would be in number
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three the mouse is not a finger right
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yeah and we said we talked about in last
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show how they didn't show spaces in the
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demo but that doesn't mean it's not
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necessarily there well a couple of
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people send me links to Apple's actual
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web site where they have text on their
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lion web page that says you know spaces
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is they're basically right they're
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saying the Mission Control thing you
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know thumb
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nails of your full screen apps
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dashboards and even other spaces
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arranged in the unified view so that's
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pretty much as explicit as you can get
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even though they've never shown it and
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even though we have no idea how it works
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or what it looks like the text on their
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page says that s spaces not that things
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can't change because you know there have
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been many things written on my apples
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website about operating systems yet to
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be released that have turned out not to
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be true when the operating system was
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released I think that even a whole page
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where they were talking about ZFS do you
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remember that yeah yeah that was
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surprising yeah I would have loved to
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have that
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there have been a few other ones I've
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forgotten them now but all sorts of
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things have been on their page when
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they've during the previews you know and
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then eventually they just stopped
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talking about it and they released the
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actual operating system those features
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aren't there and everyone forgets
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including me um so I just wanted to
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clear that up exactly that's not some
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pretty good evidence um some people were
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asking me about my offhanded comment
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about audio quality last time I think I
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was talking about the limits of human
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perception and how when technology
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catches up to them yeah it's this
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innovation kind of stops in that area
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and I mentioned that you don't 256
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kilobit a C's or mp3s is pretty much
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good enough for most people but but
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audio files find it depressing and a lot
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of people wanted out well you know can
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you even tell the difference if we if we
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did a double-blind test view listening
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to whatever audio source you chose and
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and a an mp3 would you be able to tell
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and the answer is I probably wouldn't be
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able to I don't have a golden ear I'm
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not really an audiophile it's really
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just a question of general principles I
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don't know if I'm the only person who
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feels this way but I like that audio
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quality was progressing and that felt
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like it's not like progress to me it
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felt like audio quality gets better
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during my life when I'm a kid there's
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vinyl and there's cassettes and briefly
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eight tracks and you know we get CDs
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where that they'd be hard 22 kilohertz
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cutoff is a problem for some people then
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they started massively compressing music
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but in general it's been a lumpy upward
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slope in audio quality and then what was
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it like just before the donut the
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Internet they had super audio CD and DVD
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audio duking it out for the next
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generation high resolution format yeah
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but then the internet came and Napster
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and forget about super audio CD and DVD
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audio these things still exist and you
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can buy them but they're obviously way
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way outside the mainstream and so we
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kind of took we derailed we said well
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audio quality is pretty much good enough
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let's add more channels now upslope what
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is it 7.1 or whatever for surround sound
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but other than that the actual audio
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quality itself is good enough and I
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don't think that's the case I think
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there's still Headroom and it bothers me
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because I we know we have the technology
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for better audio right it's not like we
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don't have the tech for this we even
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have a bunch of standards like super
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audio CD came out DVD audio came out it
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exists you can buy them not that they're
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great formats or anything around
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particularly recommending them but it
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was the next step in the journey but
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we've just decided to skip them entirely
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we're not interested in them and the
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thing that bothers me about them from a
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practical perspective is that even if
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you can't tell the difference compress
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lossy audio limits what you can do with
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it like say you want to make a video and
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cut together pieces from a bunch of
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different songs the best copy of the
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songs you have is a lossy compressed
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audio file that you got from iTunes or
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something when you chop up pieces of
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that song and put it together as a
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soundtrack and then recompress it as you
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know AAC or whatever for your video then
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you start can start to tell the
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difference you don't need to be an
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audiophile to see to hear the difference
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on a doubly compressed songwriting right
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and triply compress it just gets worse
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it and it bothers me that music prices
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have stayed about the same
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are you know depending on how you buy
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your things like is this cheaper if you
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buy an individual track instead of an
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entire album but the quality has
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basically gone down CDs have better
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audio quality than these lossy
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compressed the you know AAC files that
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you can buy so that's why I still buy
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CDs and faxes I buy them I'm like I'm
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getting a physical backup for free
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basically and I'm getting a higher
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quality product so why in the world
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would I ever pay for a lossy compressed
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file from iTunes and this is you know
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even with DRM being gone and everything
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so everything else being equal is DRM
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forget it no way but CDs through a
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historical accident have no DRM and they
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happen to be better quality than what
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everyone else is selling so that's what
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I still buy I'm sure they'll go away
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eventually but I really hope kind of
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like the light bulb right eventually
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they'll become yeah all the replaced
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with LEDs
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but I really hope this industry gets
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back on that train and starts doing the
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you know saying well maybe got one or
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two more standards in us or maybe let's
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let's go let's stop with the compression
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because a certain point network
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bandwidth is so massive that the
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compression is pointless anyway we'll
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just give you uncompressed or we'll go
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for a higher bitrate or higher
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resolution and still compress it but it
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but it'll I don't know that's like we
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probably do a whole show on my insanity
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in that regard we should really to get a
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counterpoint of somewhat saying you're
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not to be you just said you can't hear
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the difference what do you care what's
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right what do you care if the difference
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size is more important that we needed
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the mp3 revolution digital downloads are
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good and everything I'm just sad that
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progress has seemingly been derailed and
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I hope we get back on that train okay
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that one took a little too long no it's
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alright um back up related someone
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throughout this you this utility sent me
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an email about it after the right after
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the first backup so I never got to talk
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about it smart utility all caps smart
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I think smart I forget what it stands
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for self monitoring analysis reporting
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something or other
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anyway smart is a standard that lets the
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hard drive mechanism talk to your
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computer and so you can query the hard
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drive mechanism and ask it questions
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about its health and there are a couple
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little things like menu bar widgets they
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have a little hard drive icon that just
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changes green when all your hard drives
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are ok and it changes red when they're
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bad smart is just basically a
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standardized way as far as I can tell a
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standardized way for the hard drive to
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tell you when it's really not working so
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it stands by the way for self-monitoring
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analysis and reporting technology I was
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close yeah all right
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it's a way to know that there's
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something wrong with your disk
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officially and not just find out like
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when your i/o start to fail and your
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operating system or something and smart
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utility is a single app that shows all
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the smart information in this big
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display now it's a little bit creepy in
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that the app has some heuristics built
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into it where it decides whether your
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hard drive is quote unquote failing
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which is a strange you know it's in
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terms of the tints it's strange failing
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because I mean it's failing now it's not
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failed failed smart will tell you you
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know XYZ is broken that is
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all right failing I don't really know
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what that means
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so it's something just made up from this
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application where it says if I see
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arrows XY and Z even though everything
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is still currently working directly I've
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decided that if I see these errors it
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probably means that there'll be some
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other unrecoverable error in the future
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therefore I'll tell your drive is
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failing and I mentioned that biggest
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when I ran it on my drives is that one
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of my drives is quote unquote failing
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but you go into the help and you google
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around and it becomes clear that the
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notion of failing is really a sort of a
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judgement call it may mean that your
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hard drive is about to go bad but
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currently bad and the thing that it said
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about my hard drive is that I had bad
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sectors that had been remapped but
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that's part of what hard drives do they
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remap bad right it's in other words it's
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not necessarily really going bad but
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it's saying this could be an indication
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that there's a problem yeah like there
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have been bad sectors that have been
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remapped on your drive does that mean
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that it's slowly dying or does that mean
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just it came out of manufacturing which
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the bad sectors and mechanism remap them
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and then that's it so it has another
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mode where it will it will only complain
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to you if the number of bad sectors
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increases so like for instance if you
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get the hard drive out of the box and it
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says 25 bad sectors and use this hard
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drive for five years and at the end of
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the five years it still says 25 bad
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sectors ah I don't know yeah and as some
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as the the help guide and smart utility
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itself says the statistics that Google
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data centres have done have shown that
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if there are any sort of errors like
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this even if everything is working fine
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now it's a very good indication that
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things are going to go bad later some if
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it happens it happens but the problem
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with this information is now I can't
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really return my drive in to the
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manufacturer and say hey smart reports
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these errors could you give me the
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drivers they'll probably just send me
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back into the drive with the same exact
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errors or send me back Furber give that
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drive to someone else's they want an
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error a drive that has errors on you
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know I'm sure they'll take my drive and
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then give me back another one but who's
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to say whether that drive will have any
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other problem so just so you know if
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you're lit Amin AVI if you're listening
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to this show you're probably kind of
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geeky anyway but this this utility is
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not I mean I won't go so far say it's
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not for the faint of heart but it's it's
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a geek utility this is not something
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that that's made for like your mom to
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use to watch her hard drive right it's
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not it's not going to present you with
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any actionable information it's just
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gonna be a bunch of stats right maybe a
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big colored thing that tells you you
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know failed failing Pass felt like this
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right like you'll see an attributes
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window for something called dev disk
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zero and it'll have like power off
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retract count for that you know and
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it'll give you a raw value for that so
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these things you need to have some kind
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of knowledge of what these things are to
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actually really make the the best use of
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this but I mean you know you will get it
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at the end of the day you will see a
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little green light or a little little
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green block or a yellow block that's it
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will say failing in it if you're running
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into trouble so there is a little like
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menu bar icon called
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smart monitor or something that all it
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does is put an icon in your menu bar and
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that just changes colors green good red
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bad and I've done that for years and I
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always just says green this utility goes
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further even if that little icon is
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green this utility may be in the yellow
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quote-unquote failing phrase the funny
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thing about the app is that if you set
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the preference that says only tell me
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that I'm failing if one of these stats
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changes over time now when I launched it
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says that my drive past because this
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reallocated bad sectors thing has been
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the same for the life of this drive
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right so and it's pretty new drive this
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is 1.5 terabyte Western Digital caviar
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black I think and it's the main drive
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that I run off of but I've got only
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other backup so I figure I'll just let
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this one sale I I did increase the
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frequency of my SuperDuper backups but
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we'll just see how we go I was gonna I
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was gonna ask you I'm you know people
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are always asking what kind of hard
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drives you have and and all of that
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stuff and we've talked enough about
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drives on another show I think for for a
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little while when we were talking about
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backups but you know I think I think
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it's worth noting that there's a whole
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new generation of drives out there now
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if the last time you bought a hard drive
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was even a couple years ago things have
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changed a lot and if you're starting to
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see message just about your drive
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failing and it's not relatively new
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a pride they're cheap enough we'll just
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go by anyone am i right yeah and this
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drive to get so much better all the time
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it's all I can do to stop myself from
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buying a new hard drive every month
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because I just see that you know they
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get cheaper they better capacity they
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get better performance everything about
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them gets better to say no no just wait
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for a drive to actually fail wait the
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outgrow something to buy a new hard
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drive things are so cheap you see like a
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2 terabyte drive for 80 bucks you're
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like man yeah like my scrap drive off to
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the side where I just throw junk you
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know but yeah for the free for the main
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machine that we use for for doing our
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video recording and stuff I just picked
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up a terrible one terabyte caviar black
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drive for 80 something dollars shipped
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yeah I mean it you know it's you just
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could go get a new drive and those are
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good those like the premium mechanisms
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yeah find the bomb you know bargain
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basement right not a storage review
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finding their best rated ro desktop hard
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drive with great performance and good
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power consumption not too noisy and
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still 80 bucks
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so yeah you and noise we got to do a
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show just about you and your noise
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phobias yeah thank you I would be a very
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interesting show but which is a silence
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wouldn't yeah that's right
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that's 33 seconds of silence exactly
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so today's show half halfway through the
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hour let's talk about the day's job uh
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yeah I guess I've got more follow-up
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Allison know you want to do it let's do
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I've got what I've got more problem we
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could possibly I can fill a whole show
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with this follow up so I'll save it okay
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well how about this if we if we get
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through today's topic to your
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satisfaction we can circle back so that
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one Oh problem but okay so the topic
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Apple's hardware blind spots this is a
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personal peeve of mine that I don't
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think is shared by it shared in bits and
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pieces by other people but whenever I
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try to complain about it to somebody
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maybe they'll agree on one of my points
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but my 17 other points they'll think I'm
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insane so I think this concern is
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distributed through apples enthusiast
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community and just happens to be
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concentrated in me um before I get here
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before I go into the beat the blind
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spots I'll just talk about it's obvious
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that Apple has lots of hardware
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strengths I think most Apple fans will
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be able to agree on all those and talk
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about them what's good about Apple
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hardware well it's high quality it's not
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junk right
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so it's not plastic stuff that falls
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apart in your hands is always solid
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materials it looks like somebody
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designed it it doesn't look like it was
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slapped together by a committee it looks
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like little pieces of art apples really
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good about innovative manufacturing
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techniques they're always trying to find
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a new and interesting way to build the
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stuff they're not just happy like Dell
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has Dell for decades it's like we build
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computers like this we can do a stupid
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metal frame we slap plastic on the
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outside we put some colored panels on it
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we throw the internals in there and they
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were just happy to do that for decades
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and decades but Apple is not happy to do
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that Apple did that you know back in the
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80s and 90s and so how else can we make
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computers and they you know worked with
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manufacturers to say well you can do
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this translucent plastic do you like
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that but I'll still kind of got a metal
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frame in there can we do like the entire
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frame made out of clear plastic well you
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get kind of hairline crack so it looks
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kind of gross well how about we make
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laptops out of titanium kind of works
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with the paint doesn't stick and they're
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always looking for you know something
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interesting ways to do things and I
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would call this a strength even if it
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doesn't work out sometimes they're
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trying new things um a great example is
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the unibody laptops like that's the DES
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creaking between panels and a big flat
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thing that you pick up it's tough that's
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a tough manufacturing challenge to make
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something that feels solid so why don't
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we just make it solid like a big unit
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body thing and let's try you know
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machining out a solid block of aluminum
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into this particular shape maybe that'll
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be really strong and interesting and
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that has advantages for the product or
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the laser micro holes that they put on
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there you know and they have an LED
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light behind a sheet of aluminum but
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they don't want to put a hole in the
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aluminum right so it too unsightly so
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they put these tiny little holes with a
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laser so you can't see anything there
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until the light comes on and you see
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light shining through right well it's
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like solid aluminum beautiful details
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yeah and they look nice that's the thing
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most people know Apple's hardware it
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looks nice you go into the Apple store
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the store looks nice the hardware looks
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nice so it's clear Apple has tons and
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tons of strengths and as usual with me
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if you're really good at something
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that's that's when I find the flaw is
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more irritating because if you're just a
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total loss and you just make crap like
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they'll then I'm not really interested
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in criticizing some particular thing you
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do because it's just not worth my time
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right but the Apple Apple's the first
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hardware to paraphrase Alan Kay that's
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good enough to criticize and the
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criticisms I've had
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hardware the reason I call them blind
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sauce is because they're persistent
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maybe they're endemic to maybe they're
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part of the good stuff I think a lot of
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them are you know a result of doing all
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the good things but the things Apple
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does wrong have been the same pretty
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much for the entire job just to error
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when you you know came back and I don't
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doesn't look like they're getting better
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in some plays they're getting worse so
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I've tried to break them down to
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categories so we don't just wander all
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over the place okay and the broadest
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category I have to say is when Apple
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does form over function it's just an
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entire category of things where all
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those good things about making things
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look nice compromises the functionality
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purely for aesthetics okay and I'm going
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to start in a weird place I'm gonna
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start with keyboards wait do you want to
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share all of the different categories
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first or do you just want to start tell
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the category in the night donuts how to
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do all the categories first we'll just
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go through man order alright surprise
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okay I'd even get all the categories
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true enough um so keyboards with form
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over function now there's a whole
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sub-genre of keyboard cultism about the
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mechanisms and mechanical switches and
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buckling Springs and different colors of
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switch mechanisms from different regions
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of manufacture that's not what I'm
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talking about here that's the whole
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other fetish
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I'll talk about the most basic stuff
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about keyboards I'll highlight a laptop
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keyboards to begin with the half-size
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keys I don't think there's anyone out
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there who's going to say I'd rather have
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half-size Keys than full-size Keys
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because you can get used to half-size
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keys people can get good at doing them
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but especially if you're an adult male
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and you got the sausage fingers those
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little sausage fingers rubbing together
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on that little inverted T when you're
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trying to hit the up-down left-right
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especially if you're a programmer and
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constantly using arrow keys maybe you're
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not into VI keys for the people out
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there who are going to say no don't use
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the arrow keys anyway um
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modes think long maybe max anyway the
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little arrow keys the half size of our
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keys drive me nuts and if you look at a
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laptop an Apple laptop especially a 15
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or 17 inch there's room for full-size
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arrow keys it will get any PC laptop
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they have full-size our keys some PC
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laptops have page up and page down and
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end key home and end keys in it in a
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particular arrangement especially things
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size of a battleship like a 17 inch why
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doesn't any of Apple's laptops that fall
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size arrow keys well I'll tell you why
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look at one of the laptops if you put in
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a full-size inverted key the key board
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would be asymmetrical and that is not
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visually pleasing so Johnny I've or
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whoever is deciding how to make these
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things is just not going to let that fly
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that's an example of they want the the
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form to look like a beautiful simple
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rectangle of probably the golden ratio
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for all I know but they do not want that
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to have the functionality of the
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full-size arrow keys that's a compromise
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they make and they they just haven't
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gone back on it the very first review I
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ever did of Apple's aluminum power book
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series when they were called power books
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and the first aluminum before the
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unibody they just made them out of
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aluminum I put up a graphic that showed
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the 12 inch 15 inch and 17 inch laptops
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all next to each other all the same
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scale you saw they all use exactly the
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same keyboard which is great for
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manufacturing efficiency and it's great
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for visual appearance they all look
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exactly the same it's all the same
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keyboard everywhere but it's ridiculous
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to have this tiny little keyboard in the
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middle of a 17 inch battleship size
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laptop the whole point of having a 17
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inch thing is you can have a big screen
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and give me a full-size keyboard
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give me full-size our keys get me home
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and Enki its it drives me insane and
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they just will not budge in that if you
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look at everything a laptop that made
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sense the keyboards are the same I
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imagine they get huge economic benefits
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from having exactly the same keyboard
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and all these things you know not having
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different inventories up making the same
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part they even use the same keyboards on
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the desktops now for the most part or
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the same key mechanisms but it just
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frustrates me to no end and you know the
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only reason I can come up with besides
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the economics of having the same
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keyboard everywhere even on the desktop
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is they just simply do not want to break
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that perfect rectangle they don't want
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the top to look on there there are
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things to be asymmetrical and that
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compromise I feel like is a bridge too
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far for things looking nice I'm not
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staying on laptops the other one that
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some people do complain about is the
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sharp edges you know the yeah when
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you've got when you get your the natural
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way to sit in front of a laptop is you
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sort of have your your wrists resting
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and the
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edge is sharp yeah I'm just gonna say
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that you should not rest your wrists on
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anything while you are typing it's very
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bad for you that's what everybody's
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don't every wheel my wrist rest don't
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rest your wrist and thinks maybe you
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have no problem with it maybe it's the
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way you'd like to do things if you ever
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get RSI which is another show entirely
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we should do I should add that to my
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topics list you will thank me for but
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when you're not typing for example you
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can rescue us but either way just
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handling these devices their devices
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that you put your hands on don't put
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sharp edges on the man like I'm not
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saying they have to all be round and
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cuddly and cover fur but don't make them
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razor sharp right but when the laptop is
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closed it sure does look nice it looks
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really nice it looks great process it is
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amazing they manufacture something with
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that it's that wonderful but don't make
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them that sharp like seriously think
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about the people are touching these
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things with their hands that's kind of a
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new development but in general Apple has
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not been afraid to make things even on
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my tower towers got quote unquote
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handles those things would cut your
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fingers off man these things weigh 50
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pounds and they want you to pick them up
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from these incredibly sharp aluminum
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handles yes the old deal g4 and g3
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handles were quite I mean they didn't go
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so far as to have a motorcycle grip on
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him but they were they were nice to pick
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up and they were light to IMAX have a
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little bit of this problem more recently
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and they've done this on a bunch of
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their computers they're supposedly
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friendly desktop computers but they put
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everything in the back all the ports in
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the back the power button on the back
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yeah that's you know they wanted to look
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nice oh wait so so you stare you stare
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at the front of I have an iMac right
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here it's it's recording us right now
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and this is one of the aluminum body
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ones and it it does have all the ports
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in the back and there's a power button
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in the back but that's great I mean I
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prefer that you're saying you want the
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the buttons and stuff in the front of it
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everything needs to be there but there's
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a common function of when you sit down
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in front of a computer that sometimes
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you just want to plug in a USB device
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for a second right and I know there's a
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port on the keyboard too but it would be
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nice to acknowledge not enough to get up
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walk around in the back yeah or twist if
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I reach behind there and even just for
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the first you know the experience of
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people who turn their computers on and
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off or put them to sleep especially
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since they remove the power button from
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the keyboard way back when to reach
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around behind there and
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deal for that little power button thing
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I know they want everything out of the
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way but again I think it's just a bridge
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too far putting everything back there
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not having a single one in the front
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busy with Martha the appearance or on
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the bottom or anywhere and you know and
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even the keyboard one is hidden
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underneath there it's not easy to get I
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know they want the cable to look nice so
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you don't have the big USB thing
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sticking out of the end so they recess
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it which is good on one side but you
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know I'm in the in the form of a
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function category I'm getting back to
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the weaker arguments here so the iMac
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it's not as bad as I think the keyboards
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are but it is indicative of the same
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trend of at a certain point they just
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cut off the functionality and say no
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form must be R king here and I want my
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thing to be beautiful and clean and I
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don't care if you have to reach around
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behind the thing and to find the port so
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I'm just going to move on to the next
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category so we can get through this
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durability durability is a I think most
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people recognize this a little bit the
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that that you know when you have
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something that looks nice you trade off
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sometimes durability because you can
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make something really durable but then
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it looks like a big giant plastic
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thermos with rubber gaskets all over and
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it's not particularly nice and the thing
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that occurred to me a couple years ago
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is especially with Apple's handheld
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things this is kind of like Apple cells
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you only sort of the core of the device
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like in a future world kind of right and
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I'm I think they'll sell you this
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amazing little metal core that has all
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the functionality of the device but of
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course they're just selling you the
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inside and then you slip that little
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core into a case that you buy and
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rappelled Apple sells a couple of cases
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but you you know buy your own iPods
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everyone's iPods aren't look on the UNIX
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timer in the subway or something look
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around and see how many people have
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their iPhones or iPods in cases unless
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it's like a nano or a shuffle they're
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all in cases Apple didn't sell you those
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cases for the most part you don't see
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people with apple brandy cases you see
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them with random green cases pink cases
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cases with stickers on them homemade
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cases all sorts of stuff and it's kind
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of weird to me that Apple sells this
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entire line of products that you
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basically it's not that you're not
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supposed to use them as is but people
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people just don't it would be kind of
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like if they sold you remember the g4
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cube oh yeah I got one are you going
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right now you pull the bottom out of it
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ándale and everything it's like if they
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just sold you that little core and you
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got to slip it into something right get
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build your own chassis yeah
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and in some ways this is kind of
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appropriate because you can always add
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the case that you want but if they sold
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it to you like more durable with the
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thing on the outside you couldn't take
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that away like you couldn't take it
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apart so you could say it's giving the
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most possible options if you if you go
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if you want to use it without the case
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then you can do it but if they sold it
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to you with like a big rubberized thing
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all over it
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you can't like peel that off or you know
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what I mean like it gives more options
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to sell it as just a little core and you
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can add stuff to it if you want and
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they're working on it I give them credit
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for working on especially with the
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portables the glass iPhone 4 despite the
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fact that people say scratches and
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shatters and all that stuff it's clear
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that they're recognizing durability
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bringing up plastic scratches and
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plastic cracks so I say let's find
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something that's more scratch resistant
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let's put glass on it that seems to work
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well then we have to get super strong
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glass that resists spending so we got
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this little core and this little not
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quite as durable as it should be core is
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that it also kind of trades form for
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function this gets back to the previous
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they all have that like shiny silver
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which looks really nice but you cannot
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put one of these things in the r-mo sofa
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because it will slip off there like you
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know ice on a hot grill alright even in
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your hand like they are made to be like
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it's slippery little things please drop
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your $400 a piece of glass what's the
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same thing with the newer remote that
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same same exact problem at all right but
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yet same thing they don't have enough
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friction there's nothing coefficient of
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static friction is insufficient on these
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devices so the main thing I want to do
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with every single ipod touch I have is
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put a thin coating or silicon rubber all
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over all of them so they grip to any
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fabric links and I can put it on an
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incline on the couch it will just stick
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there right but without that on it's
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just a slippery little lozenge but the
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big problem with this is like isn't this
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working the way it's supposed to like
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you said you can add a case if you want
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if you don't want and you don't
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have to and apples doing the best thing
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no because every accessory that they
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sell in other people sell will not
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accept your thing if it has a case on it
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right well docks and everything their
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docks won't accept it so I can't use
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docks anywhere in my house because every
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single one of my iPods has some sort of
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case on it
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to make it so it's not a slippery little
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pill but you know now you can't fit it
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into any docks and even third-party
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docks they just give up enough this you
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look if you're going to wear a case you
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take the thing in and out of a case
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which is ridiculous nobody does it or
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just use the plug and hope that your
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case manufacturer was smart enough to
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leave room for the plug to fit in
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without you having to squish stuff out
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of the way um so I think there's a ways
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to go there on the on the durability
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front on the handhelds
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they do seem to be sort of addressing it
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but on the other hand they just keep
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making shiny iPods they just keep making
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you know slippery iPhones it looks nice
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but it's not the most durable thing in
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the world and I feel like they're just
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leaving this as a quote-unquote third
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party opportunity which is Apple's kind
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of codeword for fu and if you don't like
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it fine have some other company deal
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with it we're not dealing with it we
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never drop our stuff ours never
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scratches we don't put sand in our
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pockets all our couches our magnetics or
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devices stick to it I don't know so
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that's a let's say really quickly thanks
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thanks someone in the chatroom is asking
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if these if everything I'm complaining
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about it really problems compared to non
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apple products like I tried to say in
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the beginning I'm not comparing Apple to
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other manufacturers other manufactures
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so beneath me my concern because they're
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so awful I'm comparing Apple to an ideal
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same thing apples comparing yourself to
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apples not competing against other
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manufacturers who's competing events its
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own ideals and its own head of like
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righteousness thing we can make it just
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because Apple's probably you know miles
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better than the other companies that are
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out there on the PC side especially
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making high
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where that doesn't mean they can't
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improve things and you mentioned Docs I
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mean that's that's the whole problem
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that people are always complaining about
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is that every time a new new iPhone
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comes out for example you got to throw
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away all the other Docs that you've had
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for years and adjust up to the to the
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new one and for a while you would get
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manufacturers doing these weird little
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dock adapters that even though they
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supposedly had one for each version of
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the iPod or iPhone that came out they
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never quite fit you know and that's
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where we are now now that my wife and I
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are finally allowed to have allowed by
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Verizon to have iPhones again you know
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that that's the situation she's in she's
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like okay still have to get for this and
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can't we use the dock that we were using
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that worked perfectly for the iPad well
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no we can't use that dock because it
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doesn't exactly fit the iPhone and now
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so do we get another talk do we get a
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case that you can take the bottom part
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off to put into the dock no we don't
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really want to have to do that or maybe
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we'll get that case anyway but then do
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you really want to be removing half of
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your case every time you want to charge
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it up yeah it is it was really a hassle
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I'm almost amazed that Apple did the
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universal dock connector you know that
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where they gave the little inserts yeah
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that's that seems like a very uh Napa
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like solution because it isn't elegant
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it doesn't look nice but I guess at a
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certain point people just get insane
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that they're buying these $30 glorified
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pieces of plastic with metal Connect
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during them yeah I forgot about the
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cases where you take off the bottom
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talked about a way to damage your your
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device if you're gonna slide something
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on and off it every day everything's
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gonna scratch do you do you have a case
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usik do you have an iPhone 4 I don't
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have an iPhone that's another show by
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the way
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no no iPhones at all
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but I do have lots of iPod that's just
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really that's a surprise
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I'm you should have known that about me
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yeah we could do a show about that maybe
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we need just to do that show right now
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and why I don't have an iPhone that'll
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derail it that'll be real entirely save
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it leave a that's at the top of my list
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right now we got to talk about that next
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week that's number one topic we get that
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we zoom through the realize um I bit
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before I ever said it's like you think
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you know somebody like you knew I didn't
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have an iPhone because I needed to be on
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Verizon you knew that I talked about all
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times right I totally closeted you're
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like closeted not closeted everyone who
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knows me knows like I guess you're
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saying I don't know
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no and that hurt I think I mention it to
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hurt for but you just don't listen that
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hurts - truth hurts but before before I
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leave the durability topic yeah this is
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something this whole durability thing is
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like an article that I wanted to write
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forever but never wrote because they're
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just too whiny so but it works better in
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a podcast but like I was going to write
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this I guess before the iPhone came out
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or whatever but it's been online for
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ages this whole durability thing and the
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thing about durability and size size and
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durability are that like the two most
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powerful tools a maker of any kind of
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physical product has for encouraging
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fanatical loyalty rabid crazy person
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loyalty yeah
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and now maybe you don't want that maybe
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that's not important and certainly
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doesn't translate into sales but say you
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want to make something that you want to
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have this tiny little core of insane
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people who will never buy anything else
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who love your stuff so much make your
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thing incredibly durable or if it's
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something you carry make it small and
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light with laptops it's particularly
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important small light and I'll give an
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example like say well I don't know
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enough about either one of these
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products to be accurate but pretend that
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I actually do and pretend this is
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actually true the two examples are going
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to give our snap on and that name of
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that drill company that makes was really
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powerful drills that I can't remember
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people who like those things are insane
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about them because they're just the
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highest quality in the most
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indestructible things you could possibly
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imagine in in a past life John when I
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was a teenager I used to work in an auto
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mechanic and I one of the mechanics that
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I used to know he didn't work there but
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he worked elsewhere and I I was talking
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to him and he was a snap-on guy and all
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his tools are snap I like it like for
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people who don't know about this like
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that just a basic snap-on screwdriver is
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gonna cost you know 50 to 100 bucks and
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you'd say that's create and of course
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this guy's got a whole tool chest fold
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these things he's a lifelong mechanic
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you know from came from the Air Force or
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the the army and and out of a mechanic
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his whole life and this is all he would
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use and I would say well the guys at the
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you know the place where I work they all
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have you know they all just use a
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craftsman there and if you know those
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things break they give you you know they
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give you a brand new one
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- snap-on do and he just like Tammy said
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they don't break yeah I mean that's kind
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of more of a high-end kind of thing than
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durability but durability is factored
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into it it's the same type of thing
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craftsman does have the guaranteed for
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life but you break those things like
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crazy I've broken Craftsman tools um but
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but they are way more expensive but I'm
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thinking more like in terms of laptops
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remember how like the power broke 100
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had this crazy following yeah because
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because it was small yeah it was really
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small once you carry that as compared to
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the gigantic you know floor tiles that
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they had back then it was just you just
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become crazy loyal to it and another
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example is like I don't know the Sony
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Walkman or any sort of like technology
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product if you have one and you travel
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with it for like five years and the
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thing just keeps on ticking not a single
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thing goes wrong no connector breaks you
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know sand gets inside it doesn't matter
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water gets on it you spill stomp on it's
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just indestructible you become so
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insanely loyal like especially that's a
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brand whatever brand thing that is
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you're like I'm never buying another one
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of whatever these things are again
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unless it's blah durability makes people
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now Apple's products are way way way on
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the bad side of durability especially
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when it comes to preserving their
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original like beautiful appearance
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because they don't wear well size wise
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apples doing pretty well the heirs is
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getting some people people get a little
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bit crazy about them because once you
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carry an heir around you're like yes
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this is the way it should always be but
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durability wise it's kind of like having
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a beautiful butterfly in your hand
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you're like Oh put it in a case and
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don't rub it on anything because they
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don't they don't wear well they're not
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like a guy who I read a lot of a blog
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from what's-his-name koi bin I don't
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know how that's your that's right yeah
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cool if not but he's got subtraction
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dot-com he's got a blog post there from
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years ago that when I read I'm like yes
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you are you are one of my people he was
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talking about how cast iron pan as you
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use it becomes more beautiful like the
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aesthetic of a cast iron pan is not the
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way it looks when it's brand new from
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the factory but the way it looks after
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it's been used for its intended purpose
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for many years it becomes more beautiful
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the article is entitled it is it is
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entitled to designed deterioration and
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it was written on
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in July of 2007 yes that and that that
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really resonated with me because I feel
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the same way an apple you may say you
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can't do that like cast-iron pan is is
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going to look more beautiful as it gets
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used and some people might say that an
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iPod that scratched the hell looks more
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beautiful but I think it's clearly not
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the intent of Apple that its devices
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look all scratched ahead otherwise they
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would otherwise they would picture them
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that way right whereas the manufacturer
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of those cast-iron pans is probably has
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some you know beauty shot of a cast-iron
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pan that's a hundred years old that's
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been beat the hell and that's their you
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know that's the aesthetic they're going
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for it saying by our products that look
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like this eventually isn't it awesome
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so apples aesthetic seems to be counter
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to durability and I feel like they're
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leaving a lot of room here that they
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could they could get the same fanatical
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loyalty they do now with like you know
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they design people who say oh look how
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beautiful it is in this beautiful
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lighting and everything in the perfect
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Photoshop mock-up like apples product
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Rasika almost unreal I mean they must be
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untouched in some way retouched in some
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way but that's that's the look they're
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going for never been touched by human
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hands it conceived in a vacuum not a
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dust speck on it and that's not how they
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look in real life in real life when you
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see somebody's got a three year old
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MacBook especially the plastic ones over
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there they do not look good really don't
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wear well things things crack things
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break and Apple has the opportunity to
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say they'll take all that design
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expertise and manufacturing companies
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and make something that really is
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indestructible and it wear as well again
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I think they're doing better with the
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with the phones I mean they're having
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this steps with the glass stuff and
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everything but they're thinking about it
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you see they're trying to do it they
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just haven't gotten there yet but on the
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laptop so like it's a it's a perfect
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uniform piece of aluminum I guess it's
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kind of more scratch resistant than it
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used to be but you use this thing for a
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while the sharp edges are going to get
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dings aluminum dents it scratches easily
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there's a big glass component to it it's
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not great oh that I I think I missed one
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in the form of a function looking at my
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outline no speaking of speaking a laptop
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with a quick backtrack this one always
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cracked me up and I actually wrote about
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it in my original review of the first
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aluminum MacBook and I'm sure everyone
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has noticed this subconsciously if not
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consciously but Apple arranges the ports
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on the side of their laptops in size
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order so if you have a Mac laptop now
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turn it sideways I'm going to look right
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now they're there range in size are
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they've always been arranged in size
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I never paid any attention to that but
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but you're right on the side of this one
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here it's you know it's it's Ethernet
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USB mini DisplayPort and then the the
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audio jacks and the little lock cans and
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thing they get there basically it's
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smaller the MagSafe actually threw it
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off a little bit because MagSafe got it
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was smaller than the old circle but it
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used to be that they were strictly in
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size order now they're more or less from
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big and tall to to small and thin and
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that looks nice but don't you feel like
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when you're deciding what order the port
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should be on the side of your computer
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maybe function should have a seat at the
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seems like saying I don't care what you
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think is the most convenient one to have
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forward or back I don't care if you
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think you know the USB should be in
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front of the headphone or the headphone
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should be behind the USB you know I
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don't care what your arguments are we're
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doing its size order because that's what
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Johnny ive wants and that bothers me
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yeah it's neat in one regard but on the
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other regard like when you're trying to
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plug something in and things aren't the
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way you think they should be like
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there's no arrangement it's going to
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please everybody but I just want
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functionality to have seat at that table
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come on I want someone to say I don't
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care that the ethernet port is bigger
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than the USB port the USB port should be
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further back because when it's closed up
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it's annoying if your mousing next to it
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or you know what I mean yeah that's I'm
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with you I'm with you all right well I
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don't understand still there there's I
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have other issues with the ports in
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general but that that could be a whole
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other show in terms of the the
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durability of the durability of them up
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and them not having covers those skips
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or anything yes and and you know I've
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never seen a good implementation of
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covers I've just you know on PCs a lot
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of the time they'll have these sort of
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rubberized things which is something
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Apple would never do but but the idea
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that you have these ports that are
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literally just gaping holes for things
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to get in especially if you have a
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three-year-old or something I mean it
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just it it seems like if anybody could
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come up with a better solution for this
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that Apple would do well the solution
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long term solution to this I think an
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apple would probably agree is that
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connectors are all too big and fidgety
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to begin with as they get smaller and
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better then this problem will start to
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go away and you can start to have some
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sort of reasonable rubber gasket Emeka
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nism yeah this segues into my next thing
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which is perhaps my biggest complaint
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about recent Apple hardware
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and I wouldn't call this a blind spot so
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much as another willful choice that I
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think is going to bite them in the butt
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I bring this up and most people disagree
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with me but we'll see how we go here and
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it is the iPod dock connector which i
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think is perhaps the worst hardware
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technical design decision made by the
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jobs to our Apple and no one seems to
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agree with me both let me lay it out
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yeah lay it out maybe you'll win me on
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this one so so let me start off by just
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saying the obvious advantages of the
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dock connector that's what everyone says
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oh no you don't understand a doctor is
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genius you know it's it's proprietary
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right so you get ecosystem lock-in so I
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need any devices that you make that work
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with the iPod only work with the iPod
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because you know that's what the dock
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connector does it only it doesn't
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working on the other I positive music
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players or phones or anything right and
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it and you can use the proprietary
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nature to enforce officially licensed
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materials you know if you want to get
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the design to work with iPod then you've
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got to pay a license fee to make
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anything with a dock connector on it and
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if you don't make it officially licensed
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thing Apple will screw you by putting a
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different size resistor in the next line
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of iPod so that your thing doesn't work
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with it it will save this this device is
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not designed to work with this
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peripheral I don't know if you've ever
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seen that message but I certainly have
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and it pisses me off but from Apple's
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perspective it's an advantage we've got
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a locked-in ecosystem with people making
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accessories only for us and we can
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enforce you know with lawyers that they
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don't make you know accessories without
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paying us some you know piece of money
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for everything that they sell or I don't
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know what the license because maybe it's
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a flappy but whatever it is that they're
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in control and Apple loves control and
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the other thing people say the dock
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connector is that it's got lots of stuff
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on there it's good analog video it's got
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audio it's got the USB stuff going there
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it's got more power again so your pins
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yeah it's it's got it's pretty good what
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it has the other thing is that you can
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put more power over than you can't over
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USB connector because it's not a USB
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thing technically so you can no you know
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overrun it if you connect like you know
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those ones that have like a wall plug
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and the other end dock connector USB the
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USB standard is not involved anywhere in
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that connection so you can do things you
[TS]
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can't do over USB
[TS]
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but this connector this thing that they
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made flies in the face of what Apple of
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all companies should know having been
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around a long time that connectors in
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the computer industry are going in one
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direction for the entire life of the
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computer
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industry they're going from parallel to
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serial and pretty much almost never the
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reverse direction it used to be every
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connector that connected our computer at
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800 pins and it was was you know three
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inches wide and over time that the
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connectors got a little bit less wide
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but mostly because they made the pins
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small over then the pins were breaking
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so they made little contacts instead of
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pins eventually on the on the PC every
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one of these things that used to be a
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gigantic parallel thing with lots of
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wires going through it became serial
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four wires you know power send and
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receive USB came and sort of swamped
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everything else it's it's just a serial
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connection the wires are thinner you
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know everything else hard drive scuzzy
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cables used to be the size of my wrist
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you couldn't even bend the frigging
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things you know good scuzzy cables were
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just ridiculous it's huge giant
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connectors on the head I know if you
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ever had the pleasure of dealing with
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like micro skies II nobody's got the
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back of the Sun machine yeah yeah
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zillions in like a one-inch area those
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were those are really tough and God
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forbid you know you're putting them in
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you get that crunch sound yeah yeah and
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and the worst part of it was that those
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cables because there are so many wires
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and then the cables were super super
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thick but then they'd have this
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relatively weak little connection point
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and if if you if you were behind there
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and you just bump one you'd hear that
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sound and you'd know something terrible
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just happened you'd be afraid that the
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weight of the cables would snap off the
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connector and it could yeah and like
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that was the bad old days and now we
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have serial Attached scuzzy firewire is
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a sealer serial standard replacing
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scuzzy reminder scuzzy back in the day
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everything is going from parallel this
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year and the reason it's obvious lots
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and lots of wires is a pain in the butt
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that means lots of connectors and the
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connectors have to be small and there's
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lots of room for stuff to go wrong that
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little crunch that you hear that little
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crunch sound that should be familiar to
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people who are palm users from the old
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days or anyone who's dealt with scuzzy
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and everything that's not a good sound
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that's the sound of a lack of durability
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that's a sound of fragility and on top
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of that the other reason you get rid of
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parallel things is because they're wide
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they limit the size of the device you
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can plug them into the current iPod dock
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connector is bigger than the iPod
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shuffles that's why they gotta do this
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stupid headphone thing they can't even
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use their proprietary connector on their
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little devices for a while they had the
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you know the actual USB port on the iPod
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shuffle which was nice but then they
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said no we can do it all
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through the headphone jack but then you
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got to have a stupid adapter that has a
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headphone jack on one end and a USB
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thing on the other or the stupid little
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dock it's just not good stuff and it
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seems it seems like obvious like it's
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not like they made the standard 1982
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when everyone was parallel they made it
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after all the stuff had gone serial
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after half you know they brought about
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you know the USB revolution on the
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desktop sort of by being the first ones
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to say no no parallel connections just
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USB with the iMac right and they're the
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ones who were championing firewire for
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you know it didn't quite work out the
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way they wanted but they were saying
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let's not use scuzzy let's use firewire
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serial tiny little cables you know and
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the thing is they really use to no
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connectors when they made the firewire
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connector
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they copied the Gameboy connector I
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don't know if you remember this but
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remember the original game boy get his
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headache had a link connector yes it
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could connect to the other or someone
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else right and it was it was smaller
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than that the 30 pin connector that we
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have but it was it was very similar now
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they mention it it was similar to the
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firewire connector that one said well
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your Nintendo had done a lot of the
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legwork here to make a connector that's
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obviously safe enough for kids to use
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plug on plug plug unplug constantly and
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I won't break and sterile and it's a
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serial connection let's make the fire
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wire connector you know in the spirit of
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that I don't know if it was based on it
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patent wise or whatever certainly not
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compatible but they look very similar
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and the start was that they were
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inspired by that connector so they
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understood durability serial connectors
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plug unplug really easily lots of times
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none of those things applied to the iPod
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dock connector is not durable you do not
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want to plug in and unplug it lots of
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times it's very fidgety they got rid of
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the little remember back in the day they
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set the little buttons you would push on
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the side of the iPod dock connector yeah
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to disengage the little hole right yeah
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we still have some of those yeah that
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they very quickly decided that would
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beyond the ability of most people to
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deal with well I always thought that it
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was because at during that time period
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you could not safely remove an iPod with
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or without first ejecting it and I
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remember at least in my mind maybe I've
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got this wrong but it seemed like they
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changed that the the hooks they removed
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the hooks and little pinch thing from it
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at the same time that the iPhone came
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out because they knew the iPhone nobody
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was gonna was going to do that but the
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same time the iPhone was like a smarter
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it could be unplugged and that sort of
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ushered in the era of you sink and then
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as soon as the sink is done the iPod or
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device will say it is safe to remove as
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opposed to having to eject manually but
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maybe I've got my timeline wrong but I
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feel like the timelines do line up but
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I'm not sure what's causing effects
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because the iPod Touch has the same
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thing but for example right now the
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shuffles you can't unplug you must
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manually eject
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they don't have dock connectors right
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right it mostly comes down to a software
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thing where they went from white list
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black list now it's black list on on the
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on the big iPod Touches and iPhones it's
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blacklist
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when we say this you can't pull it out
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but every other time you can and that
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was a good move but with the shuffles
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it's still white lists you know manual
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eject the thing before you can before
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00:49:33
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you can pull it out but but either way
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like that's more of a software issue
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because you know you can't yank out a
[TS]
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firewire hard drive when you're in the
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middle of using it either it's not so
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that's just a question of what kind of
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guarantees do you have about you know
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data it's in flight and stuff like that
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you can go either way on that the
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connector itself is just the the problem
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here yeah and so I feel like the ship is
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gonna the ship is going to say hell no I
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00:49:57
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what's the what's the expression the
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chickens are gonna come home to roost on
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the iPod dock connector sooner rather
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than later
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you know at a certain point they're
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gonna make an iPhone or an iPod Touch
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it's too thin for them to put the dock
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connector in they're already getting
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close if you look at the bottom
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somewhere yes so you're saying they'll
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have to move to something else like mini
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USB yeah well that's what I was saying
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before about the size of the laptops I
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think Apple will not jump until the
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standards start to catch up with them
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and it may be the one that they're it's
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currently a pipe dream for Apple is
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probably light peak Intel's
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fiber-optic thing where as you can
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imagine you can make a fiber optic
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connector really really small and it's
[TS]
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so fast that you can get away with just
[TS]
00:50:38
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a tiny little thing so well how do you
[TS]
00:50:40
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can't charge over light peak you can't
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00:50:41
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do this you know maybe Apple comes up
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00:50:43
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with another proprietary connector it's
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not so much the proprietary nature of
[TS]
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the dock connector that's bad although
[TS]
00:50:47
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that is bad but the fact that it's
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humongous wide crunchy thing with 30
[TS]
00:50:52
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pins on they need to come up with a
[TS]
00:50:54
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serial interface the other thing is that
[TS]
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parallel interfaces allow you to have
[TS]
00:50:57
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fewer chips on the end decoding stuff
[TS]
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because you can just route the stuff
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directly through to
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no like a video signal can go directly
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out the pens and blots of advantage to
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the 30-pin but I think disadvantages are
[TS]
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very very quickly starting that way then
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you really need a better connector than
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that preferably a serial one now that
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they have maybe room in there for our
[TS]
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fast serial interface to deal with the
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data router it's kind of like what
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you're talking about on the show right
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before this about the cell phone network
[TS]
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going to entirely data where a voiceover
[TS]
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LTE instead of having a voice network
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and a data network combine them make one
[TS]
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bill put your voice over over the data
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network it's a stupid historical
[TS]
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distinction that's obviously going to go
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away so let's just do it right also same
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thing with all the other thing all the
[TS]
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other interfaces that come to the dock
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connector with the exception of power
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which you can't kind of get around every
[TS]
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other thing that used to be on a
[TS]
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separate pin turn it into a protocol
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that you send over the really really
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fast serial connection and make some
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sort of hardware and software to decode
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it it's where you're going to go
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eventually anyway it's where all these
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interfaces are going to go do it sooner
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rather than later before you can't plug
[TS]
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that stupid thing into your iPods
[TS]
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anymore or your iphones not bad 102
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that's not bad we can keep going because
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we start a little late what else do you
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get to say you know when you were
[TS]
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talking about when you're talking about
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older hardware and loyalty not
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necessarily durability another one of
[TS]
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those machines that that people just
[TS]
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loved was the PowerBook g4 the 12 inch I
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00:52:22
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mean yeah the 12 inch yeah that was that
[TS]
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was a size thing where they felt like
[TS]
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yes how small can you make a laptop well
[TS]
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let's just shove the edges in until the
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keyboard is practically hanging off the
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edges and and it was pretty solid like
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when you closed the lid on the 12-inch
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PowerBook and you picked it up it felt
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solid not as solid as the unibody
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because the inner bodies did trumpet but
[TS]
00:52:40
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that's you know a decade later but yeah
[TS]
00:52:41
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the 12-inch did have that kind of
[TS]
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loyalty that's laptops are like that
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durability and size and weight it breeds
[TS]
00:52:48
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loyalty but if you can make your brand
[TS]
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and this is this is something that Apple
[TS]
00:52:51
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has not done their brand is not
[TS]
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synonymous with durability it's
[TS]
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anonymous with lots of other good things
[TS]
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and maybe they can't have those are the
[TS]
00:52:57
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good things at the same time as they
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00:52:58
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have durability but as Apple's business
[TS]
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transitions to more and more devices
[TS]
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that you hold in your hand
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I feel like transitioning the the image
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of your company to be the company that
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makes it indestructible stuff is may be
[TS]
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beneficial instead of just the company
[TS]
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that makes that attractive stuff but
[TS]
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that beautiful stuff it's
[TS]
00:53:15
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to have beautiful things but durability
[TS]
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and and again to their credit I think
[TS]
00:53:21
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especially with the iPhones and stuff
[TS]
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they're trying to go in that direction
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they're just not you know they're having
[TS]
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missteps I'm not quite sure what you can
[TS]
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do it that's why I'm thinking like the
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00:53:29
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iPhone 5 or 6 assuming that the next
[TS]
00:53:31
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iPhone is really actually the iPhone 4s
[TS]
00:53:32
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and it's just the you know unified model
[TS]
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across all things with the faster CPU
[TS]
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and more RAM or whatever the next form
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factor for an iPhone maybe not this year
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maybe next year I would love to see it
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be some kind of metal on the back um it
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go to go anywhere do you travel we have
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at i/o you have you a bet you have the
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OCD thing where you say you were
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checking the front door I don't have to
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your Theor thing is starting to plug out
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you're gonna unplug and replug really
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quick we're gonna leave this in a back
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yep yeah no I I don't I don't have that
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your have went in a height before I was
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pair it was never a paralyzing OCD was
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drive back home to like check the the
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refrigerator and I had to keep checking
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doing on a show it'd be like I checked
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the door and then I better go check it
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particular neuroses have not intrude
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into my life to that degree but you're
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over that but travel we can both agree
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on I don't travel well I don't like it
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yeah I don't you don't travel at all so
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like if you're you know I said I don't
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travel well I feel like with all my
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still dominant yeah so I have a better
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thing it has a rational foundation in
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really see I don't get motion sick at
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like we went one time to South Korea
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get email but most Koreans it seems from
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somewhere good go ahead yeah most
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pretty easily so my my wife and her
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like an island where you can let go and
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you know drink the mountain water or
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whatever I don't so you you basically
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you take this little boat oh everybody
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seasick except me and the captain you're
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the lucky one that's great I loved it I
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went sailing and and and like was doing
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character flaw and it like it's it's a
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reflective of your character it's not a
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physiological thing and the second thing
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sick as I have a newsflash for anybody
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motion sick everybody yeah it's not like
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where you were if you're sitting in the
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back seat and you're reading and then I
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can't read in cars yeah you start to get
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sick yeah I did that's example I've seen
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give astronauts or jet fighter pilots
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astronauts and jet fighter pilots get
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motion sick right to the point of
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throwing up but the best one I've seen
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people on Deadliest Catch the people on
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those boats yeah they get motion sick
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they puke on the first day that they go
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out every single time this but it what
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did you just get used to it over time
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well yeah you know is getting your sea
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legs as they call obviously people are
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susceptible to different degrees I'm
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ridiculously susceptible to it but some
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people you'd have to put them on the
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North Atlantic and when those Deadliest
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have to put them into a jet plane if
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seven GS for the very first time in
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their lives to get them to puke become
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dry all right yeah driving it's not a
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problem we could do a whole show on
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motion sick let's do that
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disgusting topic but let's do we'll do
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it we'll do a show we'll call how'd it
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how to deal with OCD and conquer it
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how to deal with OCD and conquer it
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as long as it's you know mild and not
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debilitating and the effects of motion
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sickness on college-educated
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Massachusetts boy the RSI show so many
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health problems yeah we'll just do a
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show called Health and Mental Disorders
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that'll be in our next episode next week
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it's for you and Marlon to do that's
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your whole show and mentalism mental
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disorders with Merlin and alright was so
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practical that was well we're going to
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wrap this up because I have to go start
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that one we're doing a makeup episode so
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thanks to you they can follow you at
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next week bye
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