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00:00:00   this is hypercritical a weekly talkshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   ruminating on exactly what is wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1">TS</a>]

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00:00:08   complained about this shows hosted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10   John siracusa and Dan Benjamin that's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/10">TS</a>]

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00:01:08   what's on your mind today the topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   backups but before we do it you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   had other things you wanted to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   yeah I was listening to the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   this week as I always do and I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   that I Gruber had some nice things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18   say about the show waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   who knew um he did mention one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/80">TS</a>]

00:01:24   things that I've talked to him about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   the phenomenon of listening to a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   and always wanting to sort of interject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   you had to bring in your own pointer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   correct somebody it's kind of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   sports fans yell at the TV yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   when the refs are making calls oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   and he mentioned that I had talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   him about that a lot and he said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   now that he's got his own podcast we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42   won't have that problem um but I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   don't think it changes when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   your own show because I have the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   same feelings when I'm doing my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   this is so much I want to get to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52   this is only an hour you can do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   you kind of have to stay on topic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   once you move from one topic to now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   can't go back to it so just because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   allowed to speak on this show a lot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   doesn't mean I still don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   interrupt myself with additional points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   like for example yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   yesterday's last week's show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   television I feel like I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   another two whole shows just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   about TiVo but of course you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   some point it gets out of hand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   chatroom kind of helps like that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   that feeling of wanting to interject I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   not on the show occasionally I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   chat room and the same thing for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   who are in the chat room now they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24   to interrupt or add something they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   not on the show but we can see what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   write in the chat room and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   though their input will influence the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   show sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   and speaking of the chat room last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   some people had some tips in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   room which flew by while I was doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/161">TS</a>]

00:02:41   but afterwards I scrolled back up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   found an interesting one I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   recorded who the person was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   suggested this maybe the chat room will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/167">TS</a>]

00:02:48   know now or it might have been one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   those automatically named people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   the Q ERT whatever aliases but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/172">TS</a>]

00:02:56   someone pointed me to an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   competitor to TiVo somewhat another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/178">TS</a>]

00:03:02   company that makes a box that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/182">TS</a>]

00:03:03   connect to your television that a cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   card goes into the lets you record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   television shows from your digital cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   or files television subscription and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/188">TS</a>]

00:03:11   I've looked been looking around this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   field for a long time mostly sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   with TiVo but I didn't even know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   company exists do you know who I'm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:18   to sign no I don't I don't so this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   company called moxie mo X I okay I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   heard it I have heard of moxie yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   think I might have heard of them way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   back when but not taking them seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29   but on the suggestion of this person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30   the chat room I went and took a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   it again and it's actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   interesting solution um they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   competing directly with TiVo but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   have kind of a different model they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   sell you the box for much more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   than TiVo does but there's no monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45   fee which is an interesting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   attempt to compete with TiVo it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   similar it's got a big hard drive in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   it's got a little CPU it's got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   interface it looks vaguely like TiVo um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   how do you spell Moxie mo XY mo x i o mo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/236">TS</a>]

00:04:01   x AI mo x i comm the site sometimes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   slow it's the whole reason I would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/243">TS</a>]

00:04:07   consider moxie would be not so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   get rid of the monthly fee but to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:13   another box is a UI that's not quite so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   slow and doesn't have all the annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   limitations the TiVo has at googling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   around the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21   seems like Moxie is maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   faster than TiVo in terms of the UI but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   it has lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   other sort of caveats that make me wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   yeah but the first one is the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30   I've never even heard of Moxie that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   with some fly-by-night company if I buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   this thing as the company got a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   but the company's actually been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   business since 1999 there's one year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   after Tebow so whether they're being I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   guess you wouldn't call them successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43   because you know we've never even heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   of them but an TiVo is usually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   considered successful but I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   they are not fly-by-night at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   the other thing is that you buy this box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   like six hundred dollars or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   which is a lot of money with no monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58   fee but the most you can get is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   one-year warranty on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   it's t-bones kind of like that too if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   you don't buy the extended warranty you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   know I had the fan go bad in my TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   recently and if it wasn't just the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   if it was like the motherboard I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   be stuck I'd have to buy a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   Tebow because I just had the one-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12   warranty and it's one of those crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15   one year warranties where it's one year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   but it's only 90 days parts and labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   and then after that you just get parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   mmm the labor is always like 150 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22   and so if anything goes wrong you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   as well just buy yourself a new device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   so that bothers me because if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   going to go with the business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   where you don't have a monthly fee they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   really should sell something to extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   warranty so that you can recoup the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   money for this box because you know - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   you can have a box for $300 and pay $12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:39   a month and or you can buy a box for 600 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   bucks but that $600 box better last you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   at least like a year or two to make up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   for its initial high purchase price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   it has a bunch of annoying limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   like there's no Wi-Fi so if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/350">TS</a>]

00:05:54   that have this box for doing multi room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   viewing where you can see stuff on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   DVR from another room without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   pay for another cable box which again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   nice but with no wireless that means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   have to have Ethernet running to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   rooms or you have television and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   very difficult in most people's houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   in my house the same thing on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/370">TS</a>]

00:06:13   upstairs TV does not have Ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   running to it and I use Wi-Fi to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15   it and the other thing the Moxie thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   Moxie box has is you can do triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   tuning so you can record three shows at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   once and then watch a pre-recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   fourth right and notice up here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   just three tune or HD but I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   the doubt that you would definitely need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28   more cable cards for that now just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   multi-stream card one card can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   three yeah because it's called a multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   stream card not a dual stream card so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   guess a single multi-stream card can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   you know multiple streams I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/400">TS</a>]

00:06:41   there's an arbitrary limit maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   has to do with how many decoder chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   are in the box itself but apparently you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   know this fox only has one place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   stick in a car as far as I can tell from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50   looking at the manual and they just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   a multistream card so I'm intrigued by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   it I really don't want to buy a TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   premiere ever because I've used one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   my friends house and they are as slow as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   everyone says they are and it just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   UI is not nice and filled with annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   ads and nobody wanted to point out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   what I have you energy I guess be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/429">TS</a>]

00:07:13   critical of me which is allowed on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   show you wanted to point out I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   have a series three you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   example of people wanting to interject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   although they might not know the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   of the situation but last time you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   you had a series three and I took you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   your word but you don't actually have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   don't know it it says series three on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   the box but it turns out that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   it's something else because the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   three has all kinds of lights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   buttons on the front of it and it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   that all kinds of thing and mine just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   got a red one or two red dots when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41   recording its it doesn't actually say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   the word series three on on the box it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   did but I I think it that's on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   cardboard box for me yeah yeah but on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   the on the larger print on the cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   box if I remember correctly this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   from memory and you know as you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   well as I do that once you have kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   there's an you don't have as much memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   as you used to laughs right yeah blame I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   blame them but I love them I love my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   but I blame I you know I you can blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   all kinds of stuff on being a parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   it's not blaming a kid it's the blaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   parenthood but I I know that I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   it is probably something more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   TiVo HD yeah is that the name of it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17   not the brand-new ones it's not these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18   premiere and xD and all that stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   was it's like whatever Costco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   selling so the way t-bo's are broadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   categorized is series 1 series 2 series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27   3 and premier and lumped into the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30   3 category I believe is the one that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   have in terms product name there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   series 3 which is this great thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/515">TS</a>]

00:08:36   Gruber has which originally cost 800 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   bucks and has tons of as a no LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   readout on the front with words on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   that it will tell you what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   recording and stuff like that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   easy way to spot an actual series 3 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   and many people say that that's the was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   the fanciest TiVo device ever made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/529">TS</a>]

00:08:53   then they sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/533">TS</a>]

00:08:53   deaqon tented it and made it cheaper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   they call it TiVo HD and there's TiVo HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   and TiVo HDX L which is vary in the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   of the harddrive and they look like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   ones that both of us have their black on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03   the front they have a black stripe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   a red light for two red lights for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   recording if you if you have two tuners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/547">TS</a>]

00:09:08   and a green light and a blue light for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   when things are transferring but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11   words really except for no the line the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   only way you can force words to be on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   are these completely useless words by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   the way that that will tell you the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   thing all the time in an obnoxious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   brightly orange color which is either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   that it's you know in in 1080i or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   and it's about it yes the similar to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   one you have this one yeah I have a TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   HD XL which is the same one as yours it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   may or may not have a different size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   hard drive I don't know if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   Excel I don't think it's an Excel but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   got an external hard drive for it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/578">TS</a>]

00:09:45   that's the other thing about the Moxie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   it's the internal storage is not as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   as a TiVo HD XL if you want it to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51   bigger you do have to buy an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   hard drive and that always bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   because I'm on the lookout for noise so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   I want the least noise possible and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   the hard drive is inside the box it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   makes less noise than an external one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   asus 389 in the chat room says series 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06   have orange LED just LED display and THX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/606">TS</a>]

00:10:10   certification and have a piano black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   remote that's also true but my Tivo HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/612">TS</a>]

00:10:16   XL also has the piano black remote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   is also THX certified the big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   in the internals is that they they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   with smaller cheaper chips the TiVo HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   can take a multistream card where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   believe the series 3 has to take to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28   single stream cards which gets back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   Gruber's long the struggle to try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   to working singing the table cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   the reason by the way that they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   had such so many issues with that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   because I'm assuming most cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   companies now are completely multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   stream I know for instance FiOS assault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   multi stream cards and if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   single stream cards they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   digging into the bin of the cards that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   have been around the block a few times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   and they probably don't even make single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   stream cards anymore you know so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   just going through their old inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58   yeah so that that's the Moxie maybe next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   time I need to buy a box for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   television I'll look back at them to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   if they're still in business and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   they come up with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   I am intrigued by the idea that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09   will actually update their software and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   improve it and also that their software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   is in HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/673">TS</a>]

00:11:14   even on the new very newest TiVo if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   go maybe one or two menus deep you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   go back to the old standard def UI where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   everything's stretched and things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   should be circle or oval-shaped and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   sorts of horrible mmm things so it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   be nice to have a box where the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:31   actually sends software updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32   cares about the software and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   have a monthly fee so we'll say doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   sound like Eve giving them hope in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   that regard well I was excited to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   out about this noxee thing this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   know this is actually we do a whole show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   about the value of listener feedback and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47   stuff like that because it's been talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   about a lot on the Gruber's talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   it on his side margos talked about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   the podcast and i have a lot to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   about it too but this is just one small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   example of feedback well i wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59   known about this had i not been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00   at the chat room in it and for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01   had I not gone back through the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   room to see what people were all saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   after the show because you can't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   every line in the chatroom during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/727">TS</a>]

00:12:07   no I don't you know drives your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   concentration off but afterwards I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   scroll back because there are gems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   there like this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   in all that dross of people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   making noise or whatever of which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   participate participant in other shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   but it's nice to you know crowdsourcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/740">TS</a>]

00:12:24   is valuable so I'm glad to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   about moxie and I will definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   bookmark them and keep them on my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   of companies to watch well so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   absolutely and what you said about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   chatroom I think is is really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34   but I have I I wanted to just say thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   because this show has been skyrocketed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/757">TS</a>]

00:12:42   just start him superstardom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   in in in the iTunes Store and now in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/765">TS</a>]

00:12:50   podcast so if you go to iTunes in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   most of you guys probably subscribed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   through iTunes anyway but if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   pod to iTunes and you click podcasts we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   were we were up there I mean really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   what were we like the number what was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/779">TS</a>]

00:13:02   number six for for a while or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03   and then we were new and noteworthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   all that and you know why people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   Apple will never reveal the algorithms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   that they use how they actually compute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   which shows I mean I my belief is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   new and noteworthy and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   are actually those are picked by a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   as far as the the rankings have shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   whether they're number one number three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   number five whatever and how they appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   that's actually based on what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/807">TS</a>]

00:13:28   the listeners are doing in other words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   you guys are subscribing and rating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   and that's why it it's tracking highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   so well that's what you assumed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   like I I that was my question to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   when it has to be that way well I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   well what is Apple using and the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42   line is that seems like we just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   know you can make good at nobody I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   I think it is do the people but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   you know what I don't care I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   because of the listeners so I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   say thanks to the listeners and I credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   them with that so certainly certainly do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   the list is it's not like they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/838">TS</a>]

00:13:59   payments no but I mean they might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   making a decision that we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   about but I think it's I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   listener anyway thanks everybody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   rating it and for listening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   subscribing and uh whatever you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   doing it's been working yeah keep doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11   it thank you for doing it so that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14   you know it's it's John and I when we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/854">TS</a>]

00:14:19   the talk show we have no list at all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   have nothing prepared and in fact and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   I've said this before John almost now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   sort of refuses to talk to me except on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   the show because I think he wants it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   be to be pure in that sense fortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   you don't have any any such rule you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   will allow us to speak or a Chad type to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   each other throughout the week and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   you have a list of topics that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   shared with me and you you say to me Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   you need to pick a topic and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   begin creating a secret list based off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   of that topic that I'm not allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   see Marco on build and analyze keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/890">TS</a>]

00:14:54   everything secret so this is sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   different shades of hosting shows with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/897">TS</a>]

00:15:01   with geeks like you at least you share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   with the topic is you let me pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   topic and this week I picked backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   yeah I want you to feel like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   some influence over what looking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   in the show if I just picked you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13   could pick a topic too and I can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   suggestions but sometimes if I'm making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   a list of topics my favorites may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   the ones that are actually most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/921">TS</a>]

00:15:21   interesting to people so I leave it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   you to think about what's interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   talk about in light of all your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   shows that you've you know I've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   about different topics under so yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   yeah but then once you pick it then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   have to think about what I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/934">TS</a>]

00:15:34   I go back there I gather some links for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   the show notes afterwards stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   that yes I'm definitely a preparer I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   not quite sure what Gruber isn't or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   maybe he just likes to pretend that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   not prepared I don't well I mean we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   about all different things but who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47   but anyway so so you've done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   preparations for this show so what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   do you want to approach this backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   topic so um I was thinking about it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/953">TS</a>]

00:15:58   what's my way in to talk about backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   um and there's just really no good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   and except for me to just go right to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   thesis and then we'll work backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   from there you know so to say this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   main point you can stop listening the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   show as soon as I get this out if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   just completely agree and know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   going to say and then I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   elaborate on and explain where it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   from and my thesis is basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   this is Apple centric to why the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/976">TS</a>]

00:16:20   centric I'm an apples Apple centric kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   of guy so you could substitute some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   other company here but I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   actually is the most relevant company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   when it comes to this thesis and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   that Apple has spent like decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   encouraging us to use computers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   manage our digital stuff and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/995">TS</a>]

00:16:39   things that are not just like our email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   and stuff like that but things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   probably our most precious nonliving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   possessions which are things like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   family photos movies of our family like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   our memories things that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   traditionally be in like a scrapbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   right original tracks photo albums or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   whatever yeah so they've spent decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   making awesome software for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   computers computers with cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   computers that work with cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   programs that the whole I live suite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   like dedicated millions and millions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   millions possibly billions of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   making us able to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   encouraging us with every keynote hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   you know take pictures of your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   look at these cool movies you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13   you make movie trailers your vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   put your memories on your computer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   think and that's been great I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   and it's enabled people who didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   how to use computers to be successful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:23   doing these things but I think Apple now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   bears some pretty big responsibility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   providing us with some way to keep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   data safe all right and for years they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:34   weren't interested in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   responsibility it was basically please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   buy a Mac please buy AI life or comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   with your computer upgrade I live please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   take pictures and movies of your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   and make calendars and do all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:45   and keep all your data on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   back and when you buy a new Mac you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   transfer all this data over and you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   library of data will just expand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   expand and will make you faster versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   of iPhoto and iLife to work with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   but when your hard drive died which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:59   inevitably happens these things last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   maybe you know three to five years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   you went into the Apple Store and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   my Mac's not working because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   a computer guy please fix it for me they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   said all your hard drives did and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   you say all right well what happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   my family photos and they might ask well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   did you have a backup and they'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   what do you mean backup I did I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16   everything you told me to do you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   bought what you told me to buy I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   what you told me to do and now all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   telling me my family's entire photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   album is gone that's that's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   experience I'm and my connection to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   problem aside from my own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   backup situation is through family and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   think like most geeks you end up as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   the family's computer guy I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   if you have this experience a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   these a lot of you abdicate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   responsibility and say please do not ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   me about your computer but no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   inherit it you have to especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   are knowledgeable you're fount you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   you know that's something you can hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   from a stranger pretty well but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53   can't hide that from your own family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   yeah you have some family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   responsibilities to do it my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   family responsibilities to try to get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   family on max because I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   support them if they're not amen I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   that's that's the kind of thing even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   you yourself have you know like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   Ubuntu server under the desk and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   know you you use other systems just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   yourself a favor and get your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   family on max there's a smartest thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   did I thought back in the day when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   used to build pcs I thought it well if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   build a PC for my mom and give that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   her then I'll know I know exactly what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   going on with it and it took I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   took two weeks before she did something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27   I never and it wasn't you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   something that she did was stupid who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   just she happened to do that one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   that as a geek you would never do but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   regular human being would do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   time I don't remember what it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   just one thing leads to another and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   these things become unmaintainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   people she went on the internet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   Windows and Internet Explorer 6 back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   2001 probably that's not something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   can say please mom don't go on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49   Internet right that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   non-starter man my horror story is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   my sister bought an e machines remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   though yeah an e machines computer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   like three hundred bucks in Walmart this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   horrible blue little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01   first thing and then she got NetZero as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   her isp / dial-up and that machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   quickly became just a cesspool of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   know a hive of scum and villainy it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12   just ridiculous yeah so I eventually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   get our intern iMac but but then I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   the problem of like I'm encouraging my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   family you know to spend big money you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   know compared with Rancho deli machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   thing you know you have to spend over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   thousand yeah it's probably going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   like 1,500 and actually the Mac I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   you to get with the extra random blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28   blah blah is going to be like 1,600 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   it's like you know spending all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   money and I said but now look what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   can do with it you can make movies your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   kids you can take photos look how easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   this you can do this you could never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   it before on your old PC because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   don't know how to use it but with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:40   Mac's you know point them in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   direction and they can figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   they click around and they would start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   to use them they would say it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46   I've got my pictures on there and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47   just had a baby look at these pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   we put up up on a web page on you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   encourage them to buy dot Mac - just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   because it's so easy to just click a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   button and have pictures up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   from the Apple bundled applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56   right and that's kind of a good feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   that you see your family being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   successful with technology and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   support them easily but it's a sinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   feeling in that you're like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   clocks tickin on that hard drive now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   because they bought one hard drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   came inside the computer it's got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   their photos on it and there's no way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   can I can explain to them how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   backups like you know by retrospect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   put in optical disks and burn them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   make sure you do it in a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20   schedule like this is nothing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   inside in fact this was back in then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   know 2001-2002 like it's a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   bad feeling that you've just got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   entire family doing this and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   you're setting them up for failure so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   wrote about this on on my blog on ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   back in 2005 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   and this will be in the show notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   the title of the article was the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   for raid which if it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:46   long-winded as I tend to be but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   read through it you'll see that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   really about rate it's not Li about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   problem that I just said that that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   people have put their memories on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   computer they need somebody to back it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   up and there's no good solution so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   suggestion at the time was that since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02   since I feel like this is apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   responsibility they should just put two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   hard drives in every single Mac and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   them mirrored and at least that that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   a defense against a single hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   failure so when your one hard drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:14   you take it in to the Apple store they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   yank out the bad one and either replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   it with a new one or you know under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   warranty or make you pay for a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   but your data is not gone it's safe on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   the other hard drive it doesn't protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   you against accidentally deleting files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   it doesn't protect you against file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   system corruption it doesn't save old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   versions of files it's not a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   solution but I just wanted to say when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   your one hard drive goes bad you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   some protection and you know I said why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   can't you just do this yourself buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   external hard drive or whatever you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   to put it in the box it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   something you don't have to buy extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   because after I've made this big sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   push and said you're going to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:48   $1,600 on a Mac and trust me it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   fine oh and by the way you got to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   $200 for an external hard drive - and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   have it plugged in and have a turn it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   just an extra complication and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   the raid set up can you make a raid out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   of an internal and external drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00   boot from it reliably and what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   problems you're gonna have with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:03   wanted Apple to just make it a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   that's invisible and take the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   take whatever hit it is to their margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   to just be able to and I wondered if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   were working at Apple how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   sleep at night saying we're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   people these computers have one hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   drive and most people are putting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   memories on them and hardly ever goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:20   they're Sol irony I didn't imagine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:24   that happened in I mean and occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   something like this might happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   imagine if something was that prevalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   in say the automobile industry you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   if they knew that you know yeah your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   tires wear down but if they knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36   periodically your tires could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   you're doing nothing wrong you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   you're maintaining everything and once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   while your tires just fly off your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   while you're driving it I mean yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45   can happen in extreme circumstances but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   it doesn't happen every day but people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   drives die every single day and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   really gets back to what's replaceable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   because they do give you a spare tire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   most cars or nowadays they give you run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   flats to save a little bit of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   wait for for the spare tire but bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02   line worst thing that happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   get a flat tire is you have to get towed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   and you get in your tire tire is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   replaceable photos of your baby are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   precisely exactly and and you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   well so it's no different than if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   know if you had the photos in a shoebox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   and it's you and your house flooded or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   the house burned down or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   that's kind of true in a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   situation but your hard drive is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   more likely to fail than your house is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   to burn drive down your hard drive is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   much more likely to fail then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   we get flooded and the other thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   would say to that is the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   digital stuff is supposed to be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   than the old cruddy physical stuff so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   don't accept that because photos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   shoeboxes were vulnerable to natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   disasters the digital photo should be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   digital can be copied perfectly that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   the advantage of digital so I reject any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   notion that you only need to match the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:51   durability of physical photos which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   the way you weren't matching anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   because the mean time between failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   for hard drives is like you know three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57   to five years and usually getting worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   real time there some so the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:02   eventually though I mean they did try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   address this yeah yeah so this was 2005 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07   when I wrote about this and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   suggestion was just put two hard drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09   in there and take the money hit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   you should be doing something so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   they they did try to address it to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   credit in 2007 two years later with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:18   time machine feature introduced in Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   OS 10.5 leopard like was 10 10.5 leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:23   and when I wrote about it in my 10.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   review I think I called it the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   feature in leopard and perhaps the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   feature ever added to Mac OS 10 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   still stand by that simply because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   not that it's such amazing wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   technologically beautiful feature but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   that it filled really what I felt was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   really really important need that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   completely underdressed in a satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   way before I did it in a way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   made it as easy as you could possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   make it on now they didn't include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   extra hard drive but at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   they had it so if you did if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   manage to buy an external hard drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   you plugged it in it would prompt you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   you want to use this harder for backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   and you click yes and you're done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   that's it and that's pretty much as easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   as you could possibly make it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   Time Machine had the advantage of also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   saving old versions of your files not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   just you know the current version sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13   protect you against accidental deletion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   but that time machine did really help in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:19   that it was sort of the the backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   solution that people will actually use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   and previously Apple had had that backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   program do you remember that yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   it was it was sort of connected it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   an umbrella as an icon right John and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   mean it it was like a it you tied into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   MobileMe in some way this is back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   it was still called da Mac yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:41   is you know hopeful for it if you google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   for apple backup you'll see that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   program is generally considered to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   sick joke yeah it was not good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   it did the one thing go on the backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   program to be as reliable and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   backup program could accidentally delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   your data it could corrupt backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   didn't work right it was incredibly hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   and complicated to use and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   bottom line is since it was backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   the dot Mac you you can't back up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   iPhoto library there have one kid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   one year your iPhoto library will blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   through your iMac storage right never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   mind if you have a family and have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   doing this for years dot Mac even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   that program worked perfectly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   decidedly did not that backup program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   was not a solution and nobody used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   very few people have heard of it except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   for geeks like us who tried to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   and then found out the sad story of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   bad it actually works so I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:29   kept making it even after time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   but the backup program is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   footnote of history at this point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   should be like a cautionary tale how not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   to do backup and with time machines they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   got a lot of it right but the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:42   get back to a time machine is I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:43   faced with when I tell my family to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   a Mac or upgrade their Mac make sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   get a hard drive of you know close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:51   the same size as your internal one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   know ideally at least as big as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   internal one to do your backups down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   with Time Machine and it's an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   thing you have to buy an apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   sell them do you remember when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   salt hard drives old man Benjamin I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   thinking about it but I I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   they sold the external super drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   should I thumb through my catalog from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   1992 you have to go back farther than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   that Apple did sell the Apple HDS C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:17   series of products that were like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   of platinum plastic boxes that had hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   drives inside them I believe they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   scuzzy and it used to sell external hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   drives okay they used to also sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   printers you remember that oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   remember that they did that a lot longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   yeah and eventually they got out of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   these businesses I'm assuming because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   you know it's a sucker's business it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   low margin there's not a lot of room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   innovation they tried to make it high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   margin and people just bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   third-party printers so we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   situation today where you go into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   Apple store and they'll sell you a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   but if you want a printer well here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   have the selection of Epson and HP and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50   so on and so forth afrinic Apple brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   different even though apples and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   them they were just you know rebranding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   by the time they will give you a rebate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   I don't know if they're still doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   but a few years ago it was the case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   they basically you would get a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   printer with a Mac or you could get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   iPod instead right but not an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   printer or not though that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   another type of Kris show how horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   printers are Apple tries to pick good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   ones that will work well with your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14   but it's not a great experience but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   Apple just doesn't want to be in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   businesses and hard drives are a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   thing if you go there and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   actually try to push a hard drive on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   like good little salespeople and say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   you're buying a new Mac we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26   great feature called time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27   by the way to use it you'll need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   external hard drive and we have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   here from Western Digital and from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   know the company whose name I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   how to pronounce but I'm going to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36   it LaCie since that's how I pronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   it since I was 10 years old but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   lasse I'm sorry employees of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   company please send me correction email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   but they sell third-party hard drives no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   starter party hard drives are an insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   ripoff because the mechanism in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   usually cost 80 bucks and they charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   you $200 for the drive for the plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   case power supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   you know firewire chipset cable wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:00   wart that will go bad in a year and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   half by the way there they seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05   big ripoff to me but Apple still doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   want to be in that business um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   so anytime you're you're in an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   Store and encouraged to buy a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   party product the free printer is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   feel like all I need I need to print in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   there free so why not but the hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   drives are not free and it just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   like you're leaving a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   Apple umbrella when you're told to by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   third party thing and in reality those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   star Barbie things not usually up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   Apple quality not up to the build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   quality not up to the reliability and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32   sourcing of components that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   warranties are not as good it's not part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   of the Apple experience it's this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   thing so I still feel like that's a hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:41   in the an apples backup strategy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   with Time Machine and the other big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   thing of course is that if your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   burns down doesn't matter that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   your data on to hard drives they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   melted right so the big hole and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   you really need some sort of network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   backup or an off-site or some kind yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00   and forget about off-site no normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   people are not going to do off site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   where they swap hard drives with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   neighbors or their relatives that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   not going to happen it's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   and network you could argue that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   network connections are not good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   you have to support that but I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   that if you just left your Mac on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   the time eventually it'll trickle up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   your data to whatever magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   and so I think the next thing I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:23   notes here and this is just this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   point of the program we talk about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   backup regime so I'll let you go first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   and say what do you do to protect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   not your business data because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   that's kind of a different thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   think it's relevant to anyone who's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   running their own business but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   personal data the pictures of your kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   movies stuff like that how do you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   that safe yeah I mean I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   it's it's definitely a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   situation and you make it's important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   make that distinction a business backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   strategy I think is very different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   should be very different maybe than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   personal one and I've tried all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:55   different solutions I've tried time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   machine and I think it's great I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   it's not as great for geeks like us as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   it is for regular human beings who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   necessarily understand backups who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   want to understand backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   who only occasionally and only in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   disaster type situation would ever need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   to recover their data from a backup like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:18   that I know a lot of people who are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:22   you know they might be geeks but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   not like I mean I'm a UNIX geek at heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   so that's the probably the worst kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   but you know designers I guess they fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:33   into the geek category but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   say a lot of it a lot of designers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   really just want to focus on design for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   example they don't they don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   computers and they or they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   understand art yeah they are min and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   that that's probably a safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   generalization to make in a lot of cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   they believe that a computer is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   tool that lets them do their art and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   there's nothing wrong with that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   appropriate for their profession yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   it's exactly and I know a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   who have had these Time Machine backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   and when they get a new Mac instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00   doing you know what what you and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01   probably do which is maybe even manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:05   bring data over and that that might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   topic for another show - how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   migrate machines but I you know instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   of doing something like that now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   you get a new Mac you turn it on it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   actually say you can transfer your data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16   not just from another Mac but from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   Time Machine backup and they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   I've seen people who have done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   even even putting a new hard drive in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   machine where they had a hard drive fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25   and they had a good time machine back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   they put they install the new driver at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   they let Apple do it for them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   when they turned it on it stay it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   brand-new install where you getting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   data from you plug in your time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   back up and it just everything shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   and my understanding is that doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   actually takes a long time like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   many hours and that it also that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   works I've never done this I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:48   tried this I it's funny because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   thing that that both of us would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   recommend for all normal human beings to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   use Time Machine is something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   just have not I have not had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   luck with it in the early days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   that's because I always tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   weird things with it like I always tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   to force it to work over network volumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   which it's not as good at doing but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   you're the kind of person who has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   computer and you want to back it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   you get a hard drive you plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   guess what it'll just work and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   when you plug in a hard drive to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   Mac it will ask you if you want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   it with Time Machine and you just click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   yes and your backup is essentially going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   to just work at that point but me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27   haven't done that I'm much I still do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   Amit but and this goes back to my days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   of running data centers and working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   Knox and stuff and being you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37   the guy that sets up the backup strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   and using you know that just to date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   myself a little bit here Sun OS 41.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   and you know running you know command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:49   line applications either you know making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   manual tape backups and flipping tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   drives and stuff I mean that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   where I come from so for me I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   really mind a slightly more manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   process but what I do for almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   our Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:03   here that are what I would consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   personal Mac's John would be I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   SuperDuper to create full Drive image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   clones of each individual Mac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:15   really is only two we only have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   machines that I would consider to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   personal machines alive I have a 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:22   unibody MacBook and my wife has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   latest 13-inch MacBook Pro you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:29   drives connected directly to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   machines will plug you in your plug in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   USB mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   a half FireWire it also doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   backlit keyboard but I'm using it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   it was my wife's I actually I'm using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   wife's old MacBook as my main machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   now because all the other ones are tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   up in this this recording stuff so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:50   will plug in a a harddrive USB and run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:54   SuperDuper and clone it and I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   you why I'm comfortable doing that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   with my wife stuff and my stuff and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   can talk about the business stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   because then it gets much more involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   and it drives lesea drives and Drobo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   drives and everything else and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   off-site and networked and everything up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:13   but I'll tell you why I'm okay doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   that with both me and Moe it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   have another little little part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   strategy which is Dropbox and I have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:22   of what I would what I would consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   there's there's stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   identified as being important which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   can call memories and then there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   another aspect which I would call data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   data would be things like files that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:36   not images and not movies but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   important tax documents as though yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   maybe I mean it you know that I never I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   never liked having that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   computerize anyway but I mean it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   it could just be you know documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   things that you've typed you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   kind of that kind of stuff all of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   think Dropbox is perfect for that and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:58   some cases if you don't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   images which we do but if you don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   suppose you could use Dropbox for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   too but in the case of my wife like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   she's not she's not creating she trusts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:11   maybe this isn't so smart but she trusts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   me with all of the all the images and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   all that stuff so she doesn't she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   knows that anything like that that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   her machine it's essentially just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   know as she knows I have a I of a copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   or I have the original or whatever so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   the case of her machine she's also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   doing a lot of incremental changes on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   her machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   she doesn't care if she has a file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   she updates she doesn't care about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   revisions back now all of my source code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38   for all of the stuff that I do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   all the systems everything any software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   I've got all of that up in a in a source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   code repository somewhere whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   github or somewhere else so anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   that I'm creating on a day to day basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   on that machine is either going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   a source code repository or going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   copied over to Dropbox the exception to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   that is the other category which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   memories and that's certainly going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03   be taken care of with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   super-duper clone i actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   couple of different drives that i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08   swap out and do a super-duper clone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   I do have a safety deposit box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   periodically I will bring it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   take a backup to it but that's extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   and weird and and most people aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   going to do that kind of thing so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   not but I'm not doing a regular time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24   machine kind of backup I just did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   just I think there are people who do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   but I would want that to be a networked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29   solution and I don't have a time capsule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   and I the transfer rates that I saw over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:35   Wi-Fi by connecting a hard drive to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:39   Airport Extreme Base Station we're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:43   bad and my understanding is you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:47   take it maybe I'm wrong about this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   they've improved this since last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   tried it years back but you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:54   like a local time machine back up to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   external drive and then also use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   drive later on on your airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   time machine can you you can if you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the insane contortions that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   do to to make that happen I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   beginnings of smart sparse bundles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   network drive so you could take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:14   drive that you backed up to locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   image it is a sparse bundle put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   there twiddle with little files that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   match with the drive ID like if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   to Mac os10 hints.com or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23   URL redirects to now there's tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   tips on how to convince time machine to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   backup to this thing that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   arranged and say no trust me time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   machine this is this is the same place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   you were backing up before pick up where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   you left off under all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   scenarios and some of them are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   my hard drive went bad I might have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   new computer I want to move it from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   local to a network it can be done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   not by mortals not by you know regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44   people now for business stuff I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   Drobo everything I keep we store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   everything on the Drobo and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   backup the Drobo so Drobo for us is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   four five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:56   Drobo is primary storage and then I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   SuperDuper to clone the Drobo um usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:02   nightly so say that again turn it on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:07   what clone it on to a lacy raid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:11   that's it's you're on with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   pronunciations though let's see lacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   however you want I'm just I figure if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   say two different ways then you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   right half the time yeah so it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   know we back it up to that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   thing doesn't have nearly the capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   of the Drobo but I'm not nearly at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   capacity the Drobo yet and I'll deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   with that later and as far as as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   these other there's companies out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   uh there's Backblaze there's CrashPlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:37   there's is carbonite another one yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:41   I'll use another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   I'll tell I have tried I tried back lays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   and I tried a CrashPlan and both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:50   seem pretty good there's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:54   degrees of how flexible they can be when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   you're doing the backups but the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57   that I had is if you were to look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   of the personal photos and stuff that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   have I mean like you said you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:06   have your first kid and if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   DSLR forget about it I mean you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   gonna amassed RAW files take a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:14   raw raw images take up so much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   that you're gonna you're going to eat up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   hard drive space and when you try back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   something like that up over the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   networks that that that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   available here now we're not on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   FiOS like you guys it takes it to em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   mean maybe it would eventually catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   but it was it had taken like a week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   so wasn't done yeah and the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   those photos of your kids is you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   delete the baby photos no too like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   it just grows it only it only goes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   one direction that direction is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   more and more and God forbid each so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   having more kids or if you if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   into photography as a hobby or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   like that it's it's kind of weird that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   you know we started having people our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   age started having kids around the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   time that Apple has started to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   convenient for normal people to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:06   their memories on their computer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   it basically means that our entire child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   in years we'll be on the computer so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   start started filling the stuff as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   as it came along and these kids entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   lives are going to be there and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17   for all generations going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   that'll be the case but what I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   have done is I don't have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   solution for an off-site backup for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   personal stuff that is in the memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   category and that's the stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   need the best solution for I mean look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   if if something terrible happened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   Drobo you know when we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   business stuff I mean I'm doing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   basically I'm doing three to four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   five days a week of audio recording and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   two or three hours around more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   a week of video recording I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   know in an absolute worst-case scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   the Drobo blows up the the the the Lacey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:52   the lassie blows up I don't have I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:56   have a backup of this and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   when I record sometimes we record right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   to the to the Drobo other times we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   recording to the hard drive of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   machine and transferring it depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   the situation and and my engineer who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   in another state also has the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   files up to a you know maybe like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   last week's worth of files who's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   the editing you know I mean worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   scenario yeah I've lost those but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   long as I haven't lost that day's show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   the mix down version to the mp3 is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:25   on the internet in multiple places so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   what have I lost essentially I've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   the backup anyway um right but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:34   I'm not I'm not saying that I'm Anna and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   I mean look if I lost that if I lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   the online version and the backup online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   version which one is on s3 and one is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   a server somewhere else I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   there's enough people on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   who have downloaded these shows that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   could like say oh my gosh we lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   everything and through crowdsourcing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   could have it all back I wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   the original files but you know so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   again it's kind of a weird situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   with me what about you what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   doing I'm sure you've got you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   probably do have certain people spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   across the United States with copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08   your data in trust so I started out as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   as a backup slacker as a young geek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   that I would I knew enough to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:17   I needed backups and I knew enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   work complicated program so at various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   times I had like educational license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24   versions of retrospect I know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   ever used that program but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26   horrible yeah I'll have you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   really fiendishly complex and to back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   because hard drives are so expensive I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   was backing up to like optical media so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   if you've ever done retro effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   backups to optical media it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   worst experiences possible and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   painful even for a geek that you tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   not to do it regularly no but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   interrupt you and tell it tell Pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   because I'm sure there are some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   in the audience who don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48   retrospect is retrospect kind of goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   toward what you would almost see in in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   corporate infrastructure of sorts there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   is a centralized computer server if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:59   will that handles the backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   it is it is instructed to go out to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:05   remote client machines who are on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   same network in one way or another and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   talk to them they are running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   retrospect agent which is the client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   software that basically sits and waits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15   and waits for the server to knock on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   door and say time for your backup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   then the client starts going through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:23   of the data on machines on the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   keeping track of what's been changed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   updated and sends that data over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   network back to that server who makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:32   copy of it right there safe and sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35   on the server and this again can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   five seconds if not much has changed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   can take five hours if a lot has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   and this is really useful in the IT type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   infrastructure in the small office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   infrastructure and the big office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   infrastructure in some cases and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   especially useful if you have people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:53   maybe are like traveling salespeople [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   they show up on the network when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   show up on the network their home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   network the retrospect client can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   the server I'm here and they'll get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   backup done right away so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   great in theory but it is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   caught you need an IT guy to set it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   it's not even though they didn't try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   sell personal copies of that software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   it's more of a I mean when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   education I was in college my star this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   you see a lot of this in fact I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   retrospect service for you know little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   groups and in the school must but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   doing myself but for personal use it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   it's overkill yeah and you can cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   network out because you can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   have the client on the server on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   same machine which was what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   usually doing but the worst part about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   it from a personal perspective is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   it's backups are old-school backups it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   writes to proprietary files that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:37   could be on tapes even it doesn't kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   of media agnostic but the bottom line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   if if your computer goes bad you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   retrospect to get that stuff back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   got a bunch of files sitting on disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   somewhere too grateful encoded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   compressed big binary blob didn't serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52   basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   god forbid like this is why I was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   with obstacle if disk number 15 of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   series has gone bad because I'm doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   bad like crazy you can't even you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   thought I just want every file except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:03   for the ones that are just 15 sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   not particularly easy for you to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   so that was where I was in the dark ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   and I knew it wasn't a good solution but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   I still have tons and tons of CDs worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   of that I don't know why I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   be able to recover them because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   to gin up a machine with retrospect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   it they could actually read these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   and run the old version of the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   but but that was bad and it was mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   because hard drives were so expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   eventually it became cheap enough where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   you could say that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   actually more economical for you to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   a second hard drive and back up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   another harder which was a crazy notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   back of that because you backed up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   tape you backed up ops you back up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   something that was cheap you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   back up the whole of the hard drive why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   if you've got that kind of money why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   use the hard drive to store files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:42   because hey you know you've got double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   the hard drive space you know went from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   10 megabytes to 20 megabytes I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   use that whole 10 megabyte hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   for five hundred dollars just to back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   that's absurd especially for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   young kiddos like a you know college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   teenage or whatever you have that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   of money to invest in something it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   hard to just use it for backups which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   the most boring thing ever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   eventually did to go to that solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03   and I remember when I finally committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   to doing that to having another hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   drive that I was looking for a program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   that I could run it was IRS I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   second hard drive I'm actually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   dedicate the backups I need to program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   all I want to do is just take my car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   hard drive and copy down to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   one and I don't remember how I end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   finding super duper but I downloaded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   like I let me try this thing named seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   stupid it's got an exclamation point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   like yahoo it's inter capped it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   ridiculous I launched it it's a brush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   metal window fine whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   it's a brush metal with like one bumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   and it says press this button to copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   your hard drive with his other hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   drive I press the button walked away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   came back a few hours later and it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   I've made a complete bootable copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   your hard drive and I said Yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41   sure I rebooted from the secondary copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   it booted right up it was like I was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   the same hard drive and I immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   click the buy buy buy button as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   fastest software deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:50   my entire life I used that program once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   and I bought it I wish I could have paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   more from him like it was the it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   best one of the best software buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57   experiences I've ever had because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   envisioned a program in my head that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   didn't think exists I tried a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   things and won't behold I found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   program that was in my head it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:05   beautiful and I just loved it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   still you know loved that program so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   super duper is great freeze just just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   kind of clarify what you would do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   said for people who don't know how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   thing works this is a Mac application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   specifically it's not there's no PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   version of it sorry and it does exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   what John said it will it will go in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   will backup your it will clone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   entire hard drive but what's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   that is it's it's smart enough to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   not to do that exact same process every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   time the next time you run it the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   time you run it can take hours the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   second time you run it typically takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   minutes because it's very fast it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   and says what's changed and just copies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   what's changed and and and it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:46   miraculous how how this thing works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   it it's actually technically interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   because since I know a lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   file system API is and everything when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   if you do know a lot about it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   hear how SuperDuper works under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   covers but you know it does things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   though it's called smart copy where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   says only copy the things that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03   changed which saves a tremendous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   of time it does it in one of the dumbest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   possible ways it looks at every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   file every time it says alright this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   file is it different yes no copy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   know and and you would think well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   they've got these great api's now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   the operating system can tell you please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   tell me all the files that have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   since since the last time I backed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21   and if it's only three files it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   instantly tell you those three files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24   you'll be done you don't have to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   every single file on my disk because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   have millions of files I have way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   many files and the number of files not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   the amount of data is what really adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   the time of backup if your hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   was one big file it would go really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   to copy the whole thing but if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   you split your hard drive into three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   million files it will take way way way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   longer so you know you're like why super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   duper statting every single one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46   hard to use UNIX Peaks but why is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   duper looking at every single one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49   files on on my disk every time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   not the smart back up it seems pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   dumb well the answer is that using FS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   events you'll miss files the FS events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   isn't a hundred percent reliable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   this is exactly what you want from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   backup program do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   the most reliable thing possible not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   fanciest not the one with the most hype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   not the one that uses the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   interesting technology they experimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   II determine then it can be confirmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   trivially if you google for ways to fool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   FS events there are a series of changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   that can be made that FS events just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   doesn't pick up and you'll end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   the backup is not the same as your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   one so they stick there what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   from like a you know the company that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   building your house or a financial firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   although that's kind of ridiculous in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   the current climate but back in the 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   a financial firm but you want solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   dependable boring staid ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   unexcited you want it to be work every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   single time and that's what super dooper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   does so it's not as fast as it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   possibly be because correctness is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   important than speed and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45   appreciate that about SuperDuper and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   wary of any backup program that claims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50   to for example be faster than SuperDuper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   Biggs's uses FS events crossed off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   list immediately because it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   known issue that's not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   everything now people are asking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   chatroom they're saying they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   well can you do a super-duper clone over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:05   the network on a drive that's connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   to an airport extreme and the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   super duper doesn't just clone drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   directly you can also have it clone to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   sparse bundle is that am I saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   right yeah and then if you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:21   you can have it clone to a sparse bundle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   on a directly attached network drive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   on a network drive just directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   attached drive you can do that on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   of the machines you want to backup to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   then you plug that into your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   Airport Express or whatever your base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   station of any kind that you want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   and then just the next time you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   do a clone you tell it to use that image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   that's sitting up there on now on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   server now being served up and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   work it will work fine yeah I'm it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   harder to judge by a harder to clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   back or running out of time here I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   think I would feel the whole time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   let me just finish my backup regime so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   yeah you have - my history my actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   backup regime is this what I eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   settled on we can go over an hour John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   alright well you know do you if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   to get I don't know I don't want to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   a Merlin man just keep talking so uh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:11   it so what eventually settled on is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   is my personal solution I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   recommend this for everybody as Stefan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   a geek solution but it shows the gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   between my solution and what a normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   piece person would do is exactly the gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   between how backups are today and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   they really should be for everyone to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   protected so it would be nice if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   solution that I have didn't need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   this complicated but it does so I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   buy Mac Pros I'm a tower guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   I've always bought them mostly I buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   them because they have the good video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   cards and I do a little bit of Mac PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   gaming so that's my only choice in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   Mac world I gotta buy the big honkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   Tower because it's the only one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   the you know a high-end video card in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   but the other thing that I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   the towers is that nowadays although not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   so much back in the bad old days of to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   internal drives nowadays you can fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   four internal drives inside these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   um and internal drives are way cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:04   than external oh yeah okay you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   can pick the mechanism so you go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   storage room you calm which is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08   website find the hard drive that exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   meets your needs buy that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12   mechanism from whatever cut-rate company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   you can find you know you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   buy it from some fancy retailer get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   really good price on it slap those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   suckers in no cabling no power supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   now you've got four hard drives and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   I do with these four hard drives is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   decide how much data that I that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:30   hold all of my stuff unfortunately this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   number keeps going up fortunately hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   drive sizes keep going up but it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   be like 250 gig that 500 gig today I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   using a terabyte so I said I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   have a terabyte of data this will fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   all my movies all my photos all all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   family's data on it and I buy three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:46   those drives so I say one terabyte is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   size can be three one terabyte drives on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   the first one terabyte drive I boot from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   it I use it that's where everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53   on a second one terabyte drive I time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   machine to it constantly time machining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   to it and time machining to a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   drive is excellent and always has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   excellent uh I think your problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   time machine is that you knew a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   about time machine you were kind of in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   no-man's land between knowing nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   about my time machine just doing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   tells you and knowing a ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   amount if you know ridiculous amount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   you've talked to the engineers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   design that they would have told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   from step from day one do not try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   network backup over time became first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   all they were known horrible no data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   corrupting bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22   yeah and backing up to even the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   capsule for years I don't know how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25   it was a ridiculous amount of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   then they supposedly fix them all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28   it just never worked right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   the the the buzz around that if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   sort of talking to the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   working on this product booze don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   that direct connect with firewire or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   best yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:38   you know SATA shove the drives in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   machine I've had no problems with time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   machine backing up to an internal drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   ever to the entire history of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   machine so solid and that gives me my Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   axel II deleted a file let me go find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   type of thing and it gives you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50   completely up-to-date thing because time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   machine is always running so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   using time machine in addition is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   duper right and then my third drive I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   super duper ring to my third drive on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   you know sort of a semi regular basis i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   SuperDuper do not I don't do it on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   regular regular schedule because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   sometimes I want to delay if I like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   do a significant change to my system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   sometimes like science I updated office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   for example you get the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   office I didn't do my super duper backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   that week just because I wanted to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   the option of going back to and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   easiest way to go back is not to time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   machine restore the easy way to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   is to Reese - but from the super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23   drive and clone back so I kept the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   duper drive on the older version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27   Office for a little while like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   the flexibility of to decide when I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   a significant change to have my backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   in different states so that's three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   drives two different Mac up mechanisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   and my final thing is what if my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   burns down hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   and I can't rush into the computer room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   and yank out the drives which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   about for much more than I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   but I don't know if I got the geeks have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   this type of scenario where like a vas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   burning down do I think I can get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   my case and yank out the hard drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   before yeah you can the towers too heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   plus you get all the wires you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   you buttons the drive slide right out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   you feel like you could flip that switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   yank the drive anyway oh wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   you don't lock that you don't lock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   don't keep your case locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   you know the Madlock on there anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   gets in my anybody anybody could come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   and pull one of those drives then yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   those not they want photos on my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   they can happen but so anyway I need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12   off-site solution and my current and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   and I like you tried the network backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   solutions um the backup solution NetWare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   bagging solutions became viable when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   got files I highly recommend anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   can get it but I don't know what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   do if I didn't have files but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   is that I do the one I settled on was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   Backblaze which has some limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   about oh I'm not going to backup your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   system files or whatever but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   to defeat that by just editing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   little plist and telling them that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   backup everything it will dutifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   backup everything once you edit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   plist and tell it to do that I hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40   never take away that feature by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   I hope no one bag blaze is listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44   my hack and my back place backup took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47   long time but I have known how long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   this is over files and what up what up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   this is the slow files this was 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   megabits up I had at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54   poor guy limited to 20 like then up 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   up it stuff I had symmetrical 20 of 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   down now I have 25 down 50 but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   numbers are meaningless because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03   actual speeds they give you are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   higher than that I supposedly have 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   down but I can get 35 down okay so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   did it what it actually take time I says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   how much were you backing up data wise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   think it was like a week for my initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   400 gigs because at that time I was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   500 gig drive and now I think I have up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:20   there maybe six or seven hundred gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   but once you do the initial backup back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   plays I like it because first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   it's super cheap it's like five bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   month or something even cheaper if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   pay for a year at once and it doesn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:33   don't notice when it's running I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   scheduled to just run at night because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   leave my computer on a night for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   run but I'd really don't notice when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   it's running it doesn't impact my CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   performance I don't see the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   grinding time machine is actually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:45   of a hindrance like I see when time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   machine is going in this grinding my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47   Drive occasionally I interrupted because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   it's bothering me um the back place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   never bothers me whatever mechanism is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   using to figure out what files are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   changed probably data is reliable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   super duper because it's much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58   faster but really and also back place is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:02   not going to give me a bootable copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   my stuff if I want my data back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   Backblaze I'm gonna have to pay them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06   hundreds of dollars and to ship me a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   know a big terabyte drive or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   they're going to do but at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   when the house is burned down I will pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   them I'll pay them a grand to give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   back the photos of my kids and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   going to get my iPhoto metadata back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   probably I just want the JPEGs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19   original JPEGs and the original you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22   mp4 our move files or whatever I have of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   movies and my kids this is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27   case scenario last resort type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   solution that I hope I never have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   but I do need an off-site so I use back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   plays the thing I'm going to add to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   is once my brother gets himself settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   in the new place he's moving in we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   going to try to do we'll each by two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:40   terabyte externals and swap them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   each other every you know a month or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43   now why not just use something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   like a safety deposit box in a bank yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   you could do that to safe deposit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   it's just like how often do you go to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   to the bank like I don't actually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   physically to my bank unless I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   to ATM and it's not at my bank proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   but again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:58   can I get a Canadian check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   can I get a Canadian check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   I've gotta go to the bank to deposit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   like otherwise I just used that ATM to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:04   drive through go there with your rolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:05   of pennies that to change them in yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   but but yeah much more likely to if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   someone that you see on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   you just you know bring the drives when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   you see each other and swap them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   that will solve the problem for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   different people but then you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   complicit ly trust that person as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21   someone in the chatroom asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   crash crash glam yeah I was going to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   you why why Backblaze versus crash plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   versus Carbonite is it just because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   could do that hat did you test out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   audition the other ones what makes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   read a lot about them initially crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   plan was way more expensive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:36   Backblaze so for especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   something I was trying out I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   if it would it would be feasible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   didn't know how well it would work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43   anything like that I went with back play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   just because it was the cheapest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   every time I really like crash plan has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   gotten a lot cheaper I basically come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   back to well it took me a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   upload everything to Backblaze and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   really do I have a problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:56   what am i problem I trying to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   what's wrong with back plays and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   doesn't bother me it doesn't hurt my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:00   computer it works reliably I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   test restore is to get individual files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   back and it seems to work just fine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08   bad thing about back plays it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   back up Mac metadata very well most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12   these services don't do that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   them are getting better but until one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16   them can guarantee 100% like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   super dooper in the network backup world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   there's no equivalent of that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   just a series of mostly PC centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   services that work to varying degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:28   and it really is that the thing of last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29   resort so I just I said give me my data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   give me the file names I will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   painfully reconstruct my environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   from that I don't really care about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   applications that much or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37   that I just want my data so that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   I'm using for that crash plan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:40   becoming more competitive and it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   really good reviews but I've also heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   the decline is more heavyweight than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:45   back plays client and I've just I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   haven't had a reason to leave yet so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   would encourage people to just try out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   the different ones mozzie is another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   there's a what does that other one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   some indie software developer making one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   that uses s3 yeah this is young great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   dish is that it does jungle this with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   another one I wish I could remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02   name of it chat room can help me out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   this some other one that uses s3 as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   back-end well I I've found that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   liked Backblaze also and it has a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:11   Mac for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   my client and I actually have enough I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:16   think we have an affiliate link so check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   the show notes if you're thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   trying Backblaze I don't know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   gate they had some offer about a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   ago where it was like ten percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   but I don't know if that coupon code it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   that will be there is still good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:30   I'll email them and see if they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   react that just for just for you guys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   this show no promises but I'll ping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   right after this and tell them that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   but they're so cheap the full prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   it's not expensive I dollars them five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   dollars a month for unlimited data that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   was the key for me because I said a cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:45   of coffee at a Starbucks really right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   and you know and it's month by month so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   that's why another reason I went for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   because it well one month five bucks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   one month surely I'll be able to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   I can up you know you'll get a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:56   experience of it I'll be able to do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:57   initial upload and see what it's like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   a day to day basis there's no risk and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   just left on a month-by-month much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   longer than I should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   eventually I said you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04   obviously sticking with back plays let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:05   me just buy the yearly um I really wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:08   they would do better with the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   metadata I wish they would become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   Mac savvy and I wish their backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   options were not as your account their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   restore options we're not as draconian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16   as they are but for me it basically fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:20   my needs and so far I haven't had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21   reason to go away from it so what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:25   what else you doing up there so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:28   well that's what from my backup regime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   it's you know three or three hard drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   any time you want one hard drive you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   have to get three of them that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   reason this is all in one computer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:36   gets back to a whole other show which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   that my computer has to be the iPhoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   computer right so my parents take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   pictures we've got it that's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   our next show we've got to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   and maybe there's a bigger overall topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   there John but the the topic of how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   you deal with that when you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   central repository for music or pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57   or whatever like how do you mitigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   that problem when your wife says so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   where's that picture of the kid when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   they were two years old and had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   green hat on and I want that picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   what you know where's all the music like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   how do I get music on my computer Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   and my wife has her computer over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   too and all I do for her computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15   time machine to a far-our connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   drive it's a laptop so we plug in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   firewire drive occasionally and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   has no off-site backup but realistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   she really has no data the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   she does on her computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   it are the taxes and I are sink those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   over to my machine where they enter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   back up vortex and what about spreads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32   I'm murky are you kids old enough to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   computers they have they have a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36   gen iPod Touch as their device that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39   two of them share at this point we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40   have any iPads yet we will get them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:42   I'm sure they'll try to commandeer those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   but so far they mostly just use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   touch they don't use our computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   much occasionally they'll look at movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   on them whatever but they don't use use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   them but whether can you share ages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   kappa gatta i've got a three year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   daughter and a six year old son okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   at 6 though you would think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01   starting to get to the point where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:02   gonna want something of his own so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   he hasn't asked for a computer he sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   as heck wants an iPod iPad he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   anything he definitely wants you on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   iPods he's not excited to use the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   gen touch he wants the you know 4th gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:14   touch with the camera that my wife has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17   so he's already become a connoisseur of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:18   that it's interesting they're much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19   interested in the iOS devices than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   max but so far he hasn't asked for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   Mac and of course he likes the Wii and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   the games and stuff like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   so so far not big on the computer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:30   certainly haven't been encouraging it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   because we don't have a computer for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32   to use but once my wife upgrades her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   laptop maybe there'll be something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   yeah so the the solution to the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   data is daddy's computer has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41   data and mommy's satellite computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   it just mostly for throwaway stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45   anything important that does appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   it has to get sucked into to my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   right the final point I want to make on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   this backup thing is that I was taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54   Apple to task for not solving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   problem completely back in 2005 Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   Machine was a big help but there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   this gap is still the my house burns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   down gap on there and the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   have to buy third-party hard drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   for for the off-site backup it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09   unfortunate but true and this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   show topic I think I probably add to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   list is that network services are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   Apple's kryptonite now there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   things that Apple doesn't do well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   they tend not to do them network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   services is something that that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   seems to want to do they keep trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   do it and they're so bad at it it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   the one or two things that Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   to do keeps trying to do and keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:28   failing and that's that's a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   topic of why is that Apple's kryptonite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   what is their problem what's the hang-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   so it's a shame that they don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   offering in that area because certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   MobileMe about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   are not adequate in any possible way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   that so what do you what do you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   suggest let's say there's somebody out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   there who's listening to us right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:47   and they've just got their one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   whether it's a laptop or or you know nor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52   Mac Pro I mean what's what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:55   recommend that they do my recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   before I hear yours my recommendation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   is going to be if if you're the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:02   person who likes the idea that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   something terrible happens to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   computer you don't need incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:09   backups but you want to get back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   running as quickly as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:12   you super-duper clone your drive every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:15   night and then if something terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:16   happens to your computer you plug that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   drive in you reboot from it and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   exactly where you were and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   if something terrible happened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   Mac itself you can take that hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   to another Mac and you can reboot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   off that drive and it's your Mac on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   Mac which is kind of magical and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:36   cool and that's that's my recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   solution for regular for regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   and geeks for people who really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   don't want to think about anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:44   would probably recommend time-machine on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   on an USB Drive that you just plug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   and and backup but what do you recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   for regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:52   so my recommendation for non geeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:55   this is what I make my family do to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:58   extent that I can is a bio external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01   firewire hard drive and good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   machine to it and the reason I pick time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04   machine instead of SuperDuper is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   found that regular people really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   appreciate the ability to get back file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   backs and I accidentally deleted because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   that does happen a lot and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   trying to get them to buy another piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   of third-party software and use it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:17   though super duper is super easy to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   it's nowhere close as easy as time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   machine especially in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   without me without my support can they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   you know if their internal hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:28   goes bad you know like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31   ecosystem is set up to look for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:32   time machine dried out as you noted it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   put in if you put in another drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   will it will offer like there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   more that they can successfully do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   without any help from someone who is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40   geek despite time machines limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   most of which I'm avoiding by saying get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44   a firewire drive plug it into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   computer leave it on all the time most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   of my relatives have like I max the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:51   people with laptops it just peer out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   unplug in your laptop they don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:54   know you know the only the only kink in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:58   this armor is and this is a sad document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   that should pop up on the web someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01   trying to explain to people how to mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   and unmount to drive the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   drive mounting you have your laptop go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:07   over to this desk plug in this firewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   example that's all you need to do to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   the backup when you're done doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12   backup please don't just yank out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   cable you have to unmount the drive hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17   and try explaining that in words on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   Piton one sheet of paper because I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   to make a one sheet that you can tack to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:22   the wall that explains the steps it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   really surprisingly hard it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   trying to you know describe an elephant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   to to a blind man it's just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:31   really difficult that is the the weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   spot in the armor and the weak spot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   that they don't want to go through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   procedure or they feel uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   with it so they avoid plug in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39   laptop for too long I wish there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:42   backup solution that SuperDuper would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   have the same problem I wish there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44   some sort of network thing but again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   know people who aren't geeks do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:50   good network connections they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   cheapest DSL they can get their Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   stinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:54   that it's just it's a sad situation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   network backups or even in-house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   wireless backups are not always an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01   option for them so I say Direct Connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   Drive and again the not buying Tower so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:05   it can't be sad it's got to be firewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   USB and I'm still sticking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08   firewire train just because I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   fewer problems with it you don't then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   know just to decide you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13   firewire is going to be gone from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   next couple generation to max you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   I don't know that that's part of that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:19   part of the restore thing like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   do the restore the reason it's fast with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   time machine with a firewire drive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   with another Mac we do migration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   assistance it's because it puts the disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   that puts the Mac into firewire target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   disk mode so it becomes the world's most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:31   expensive hard drive enclosure you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   got a two thousand dollar machine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34   not really on it's just acting as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   enclosure for the one hard drive that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:37   in it and you get great transfer rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:40   doing it over a FP or any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   network stuff and doing it a Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   worst-case scenario is way way slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   and it almost becomes unfeasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:47   remember people trying to do time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   machinery stores or migration assistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   on the original MacBook Air it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   would simply never complete ever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   know it would freeze in the middle you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   let it run for three days just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   bad scene so your thoughts are the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   for time capsule II don't recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   people I do not recommend the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   capsule I also don't recommend Drobo by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   that's I mean obviously if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   professional you know what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:09   and you know you're getting into but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   the fact that you're backing up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11   dribble makes me realize that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   definitely get it because I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   I think people think of Joe Boaz as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   invincible but it still has moving parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:21   in it I mean it's still it's a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   device that did you know they made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   hardware that makes that work yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:26   inside there right it's not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:29   commodity thing and I don't trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   not to have bugs in their firmware not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:32   corrupt every single one of those dicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33   discs it's it's something that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   though you know rate is not a backup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   Drobo is not a back right that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:39   something that a lot of people will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   and that and and that is that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   because you have raid whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   Drobo's raid or an ass or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:49   it's still not if that's your if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:53   the primary place where you're storing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:54   your data it's not a backup it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   invincible it has points of failure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:59   the reason that we use the Drobo is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02   I love the drill we have at Robo Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   here and the reason I love it is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:07   you're doing the kind of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:08   we're doing where we're creating like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   said four plus hours a day of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   this this podcast uncompressed before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:16   mix it down and everything you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   for an hour plus of recording it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   to be a gig and a half in size and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   know when we mix it down it'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   twenty thirty Meg and you know mp3 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   we keep all those original files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   that eats up data fast so you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   Drobo lets you expand that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   why we do it but no I mean it has a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   is it has failure points - so I have - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   of course I have to back it up yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   the Drobo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:43   the main advantage of Drobo I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:44   is it's a box that I always wish people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   would make and once they made it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:47   realized that I still need backups but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:50   it lets for individual people on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   budget it lets you get the most bang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   of your buck because as hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   prices go down you can take out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:58   smallest drive in your dri bow in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   Drobo and replace it with whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   sweet spot of size and price is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:05   current range so you know 500 gig drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   or 80 bucks so you fill a thing with 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpmvFli8/4387">TS</a>]

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