Hypercritical

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00:01:08 ◼   ► what's on your mind today the topic is [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► backups but before we do it you said you [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► had other things you wanted to come to [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► yeah I was listening to the talk show [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► this week as I always do and I heard [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► that I Gruber had some nice things to [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► say about the show waited [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► who knew um he did mention one of the [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► things that I've talked to him about is [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► the phenomenon of listening to a podcast [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► and always wanting to sort of interject [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► you had to bring in your own pointer to [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► correct somebody it's kind of like how [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► sports fans yell at the TV yeah [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► when the refs are making calls oh yeah [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► and he mentioned that I had talked to [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► him about that a lot and he said well [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► now that he's got his own podcast we [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► won't have that problem um but I don't I [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► don't think it changes when you have [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► your own show because I have the exact [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► same feelings when I'm doing my show [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► this is so much I want to get to when [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► this is only an hour you can do it and [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► you kind of have to stay on topic and [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► once you move from one topic to now you [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► can't go back to it so just because I'm [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► allowed to speak on this show a lot it [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► doesn't mean I still don't want to [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► interrupt myself with additional points [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► like for example yesterday [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► yesterday's last week's show about [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► television I feel like I could do [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► another two whole shows just talking [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► about TiVo but of course you know it [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► some point it gets out of hand the [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► chatroom kind of helps like that with [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► that feeling of wanting to interject I'm [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► not on the show occasionally I'm in the [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► chat room and the same thing for people [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► who are in the chat room now they want [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► to interrupt or add something they're [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► not on the show but we can see what they [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► write in the chat room and sometimes [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► though their input will influence the [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► show sure [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► and speaking of the chat room last week [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► some people had some tips in the chat [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► room which flew by while I was doing the [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► but afterwards I scrolled back up and I [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► found an interesting one I should have [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► recorded who the person was that [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► suggested this maybe the chat room will [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► know now or it might have been one of [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► those automatically named people with [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► the Q ERT whatever aliases but anyway [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► someone pointed me to an actual [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► competitor to TiVo somewhat another [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► company that makes a box that you [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► connect to your television that a cable [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► card goes into the lets you record [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► television shows from your digital cable [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► or files television subscription and [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► I've looked been looking around this [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► field for a long time mostly sticking [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► with TiVo but I didn't even know this [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► company exists do you know who I'm about [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► to sign no I don't I don't so this is a [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► company called moxie mo X I okay I have [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► heard it I have heard of moxie yeah I [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► think I might have heard of them way [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► back when but not taking them seriously [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► but on the suggestion of this person in [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► the chat room I went and took a look at [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► it again and it's actually an [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► interesting solution um they're they're [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► competing directly with TiVo but they [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► have kind of a different model they they [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► sell you the box for much more money [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► than TiVo does but there's no monthly [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► fee which is an interesting you know [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► attempt to compete with TiVo it's very [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► similar it's got a big hard drive in it [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► it's got a little CPU it's got an [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► interface it looks vaguely like TiVo um [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► how do you spell Moxie mo XY mo x i o mo [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► x AI mo x i comm the site sometimes is [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► slow it's the whole reason I would even [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► consider moxie would be not so much to [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► get rid of the monthly fee but to see if [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► another box is a UI that's not quite so [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► slow and doesn't have all the annoying [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► limitations the TiVo has at googling [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► around the web [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► seems like Moxie is maybe a little bit [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► faster than TiVo in terms of the UI but [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► it has lots [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► other sort of caveats that make me wear [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► yeah but the first one is the fact that [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► I've never even heard of Moxie that goes [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► with some fly-by-night company if I buy [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► this thing as the company got a business [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► but the company's actually been in [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► business since 1999 there's one year [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► after Tebow so whether they're being I [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► guess you wouldn't call them successful [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► because you know we've never even heard [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► of them but an TiVo is usually not [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► considered successful but I would say [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► they are not fly-by-night at this point [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► the other thing is that you buy this box [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► like six hundred dollars or whatever [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► which is a lot of money with no monthly [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► fee but the most you can get is a [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► one-year warranty on it [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► it's t-bones kind of like that too if [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► you don't buy the extended warranty you [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► know I had the fan go bad in my TiVo [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► recently and if it wasn't just the fan [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► if it was like the motherboard I would [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► be stuck I'd have to buy a whole new [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► Tebow because I just had the one-year [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► warranty and it's one of those crappy [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► one year warranties where it's one year [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► but it's only 90 days parts and labor [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► and then after that you just get parts [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► mmm the labor is always like 150 bucks [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► and so if anything goes wrong you might [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► as well just buy yourself a new device [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► so that bothers me because if they're [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► going to go with the business model [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► where you don't have a monthly fee they [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► really should sell something to extended [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► warranty so that you can recoup the [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► money for this box because you know - [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► you can have a box for $300 and pay $12 [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► a month and or you can buy a box for 600 [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► bucks but that $600 box better last you [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► at least like a year or two to make up [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► for its initial high purchase price and [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► it has a bunch of annoying limitations [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► like there's no Wi-Fi so if you have [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► that have this box for doing multi room [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► viewing where you can see stuff on your [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► DVR from another room without having to [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► pay for another cable box which again is [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► nice but with no wireless that means you [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► have to have Ethernet running to all the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► rooms or you have television and that's [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► very difficult in most people's houses [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► in my house the same thing on my [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► upstairs TV does not have Ethernet [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► running to it and I use Wi-Fi to get to [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► it and the other thing the Moxie thing [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► Moxie box has is you can do triple [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► tuning so you can record three shows at [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► once and then watch a pre-recorded [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► fourth right and notice up here it's [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► just three tune or HD but I'm assuming [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► the doubt that you would definitely need [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► more cable cards for that now just one [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► multi-stream card one card can just [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► three yeah because it's called a multi [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► stream card not a dual stream card so I [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► guess a single multi-stream card can do [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► you know multiple streams I don't think [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► there's an arbitrary limit maybe just [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► has to do with how many decoder chips [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► are in the box itself but apparently you [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► know this fox only has one place to [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► stick in a car as far as I can tell from [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► looking at the manual and they just want [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► a multistream card so I'm intrigued by [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► it I really don't want to buy a TiVo [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► premiere ever because I've used one that [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► my friends house and they are as slow as [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► everyone says they are and it just the [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► UI is not nice and filled with annoying [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► ads and nobody wanted to point out that [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► what I have you energy I guess be [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► critical of me which is allowed on this [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► show you wanted to point out I don't [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► have a series three you know that's the [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► example of people wanting to interject [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► although they might not know the reality [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► of the situation but last time you said [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► you had a series three and I took you at [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► your word but you don't actually have I [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► don't know it it says series three on on [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► the box but it turns out that it's not [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► it's something else because the series [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► three has all kinds of lights and [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► buttons on the front of it and it says [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► that all kinds of thing and mine just [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► got a red one or two red dots when it's [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► recording its it doesn't actually say [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► the word series three on on the box it [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► did but I I think it that's on a [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► cardboard box for me yeah yeah but on on [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► the on the larger print on the cardboard [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► box if I remember correctly this is all [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► from memory and you know as you know as [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► well as I do that once you have kids [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► there's an you don't have as much memory [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► as you used to laughs right yeah blame I [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► blame them but I love them I love my kid [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► but I blame I you know I you can blame [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► all kinds of stuff on being a parent [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► it's not blaming a kid it's the blaming [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► parenthood but I I know that I know that [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► it is probably something more like a [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► TiVo HD yeah is that the name of it it's [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► not the brand-new ones it's not these [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► premiere and xD and all that stuff it [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► was it's like whatever Costco was [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► selling so the way t-bo's are broadly [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► categorized is series 1 series 2 series [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► 3 and premier and lumped into the series [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► 3 category I believe is the one that you [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► have in terms product name there is the [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► series 3 which is this great thing that [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► Gruber has which originally cost 800 [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► bucks and has tons of as a no LED [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► readout on the front with words on it [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► that it will tell you what it's [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► recording and stuff like that was the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► easy way to spot an actual series 3 yeah [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► and many people say that that's the was [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► the fanciest TiVo device ever made and [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► then they sort of [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► deaqon tented it and made it cheaper and [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► they call it TiVo HD and there's TiVo HD [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► and TiVo HDX L which is vary in the size [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► of the harddrive and they look like the [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► ones that both of us have their black on [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► the front they have a black stripe that [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► a red light for two red lights for [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► recording if you if you have two tuners [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► and a green light and a blue light for [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► when things are transferring but no [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► words really except for no the line the [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► only way you can force words to be on it [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► are these completely useless words by [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► the way that that will tell you the same [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► thing all the time in an obnoxious [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► brightly orange color which is either [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► that it's you know in in 1080i or not [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► and it's about it yes the similar to the [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► one you have this one yeah I have a TiVo [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► HD XL which is the same one as yours it [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► may or may not have a different size [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► hard drive I don't know if you have the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► Excel I don't think it's an Excel but I [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► got an external hard drive for it yeah [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► that's the other thing about the Moxie [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► it's the internal storage is not as big [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► as a TiVo HD XL if you want it to get [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► bigger you do have to buy an external [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► hard drive and that always bothers me [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► because I'm on the lookout for noise so [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► I want the least noise possible and when [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► the hard drive is inside the box it [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► makes less noise than an external one [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► asus 389 in the chat room says series 3 [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► have orange LED just LED display and THX [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► certification and have a piano black [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► remote that's also true but my Tivo HD [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► XL also has the piano black remote and [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► is also THX certified the big difference [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► in the internals is that they they went [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► with smaller cheaper chips the TiVo HD [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► can take a multistream card where I [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► believe the series 3 has to take to [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► single stream cards which gets back to [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► Gruber's long the struggle to try to get [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► to working singing the table cards [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► the reason by the way that they probably [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► had such so many issues with that is [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► because I'm assuming most cable [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► companies now are completely multi [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► stream I know for instance FiOS assault [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► multi stream cards and if you want [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► single stream cards they're probably [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► digging into the bin of the cards that [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► have been around the block a few times [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► and they probably don't even make single [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► stream cards anymore you know so they're [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► just going through their old inventory [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► yeah so that that's the Moxie maybe next [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► time I need to buy a box for a [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► television I'll look back at them to see [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► if they're still in business and see if [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► they come up with something [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► I am intrigued by the idea that they [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► will actually update their software and [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► improve it and also that their software [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► is in HD [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► even on the new very newest TiVo if you [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► go maybe one or two menus deep you you [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► go back to the old standard def UI where [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► everything's stretched and things that [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► should be circle or oval-shaped and all [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► sorts of horrible mmm things so it would [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► be nice to have a box where the company [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► actually sends software updates and [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► cares about the software and doesn't [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► have a monthly fee so we'll say doesn't [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► sound like Eve giving them hope in in [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► that regard well I was excited to find [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► out about this noxee thing this is you [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► know this is actually we do a whole show [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► about the value of listener feedback and [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► stuff like that because it's been talked [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► about a lot on the Gruber's talked about [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► it on his side margos talked about it on [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► the podcast and i have a lot to say [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► about it too but this is just one small [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► example of feedback well i wouldn't have [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► known about this had i not been looking [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► at the chat room in it and for example [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► had I not gone back through the chat [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► room to see what people were all saying [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► after the show because you can't look at [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► every line in the chatroom during the [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► no I don't you know drives your [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► concentration off but afterwards I [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► scroll back because there are gems in [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► there like this you know [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► in all that dross of people you know [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► making noise or whatever of which I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► participate participant in other shows [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► but it's nice to you know crowdsourcing [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► is valuable so I'm glad to find out [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► about moxie and I will definitely [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► bookmark them and keep them on my list [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► of companies to watch well so so [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► absolutely and what you said about the [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► chatroom I think is is really important [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► but I have I I wanted to just say thanks [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► because this show has been skyrocketed [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► just start him superstardom [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► in in in the iTunes Store and now in the [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► podcast so if you go to iTunes in you [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► most of you guys probably subscribed [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► through iTunes anyway but if you go to [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► pod to iTunes and you click podcasts we [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► were we were up there I mean really like [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► what were we like the number what was it [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► number six for for a while or something [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► and then we were new and noteworthy and [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► all that and you know why people that [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► Apple will never reveal the algorithms [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► that they use how they actually compute [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► which shows I mean I my belief is that [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► new and noteworthy and things like that [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► are actually those are picked by a human [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► being [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► as far as the the rankings have shows [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► whether they're number one number three [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► number five whatever and how they appear [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► that's actually based on what you guys [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► the listeners are doing in other words [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► you guys are subscribing and rating it [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► and that's why it it's tracking highly [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► so well that's what you assumed because [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► like I I that was my question to you [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► when it has to be that way well I said [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► well what is Apple using and the bottom [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► line is that seems like we just don't [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► know you can make good at nobody I think [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► I think it is do the people but anyway [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► you know what I don't care I think it's [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► because of the listeners so I'm gonna [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► say thanks to the listeners and I credit [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► them with that so certainly certainly do [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► the list is it's not like they're taking [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► payments no but I mean they might be [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► making a decision that we don't know [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► about but I think it's I think it's [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► listener anyway thanks everybody for [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► rating it and for listening and [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► subscribing and uh whatever you've been [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► doing it's been working yeah keep doing [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► it thank you for doing it so that now [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► you know it's it's John and I when we do [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► the talk show we have no list at all we [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► have nothing prepared and in fact and [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► I've said this before John almost now it [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► sort of refuses to talk to me except on [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► the show because I think he wants it to [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► be to be pure in that sense fortunately [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► you don't have any any such rule you [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► will allow us to speak or a Chad type to [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► each other throughout the week and and [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► you have a list of topics that you have [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► shared with me and you you say to me Dan [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► you need to pick a topic and then you [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► begin creating a secret list based off [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► of that topic that I'm not allowed to [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► see Marco on build and analyze keeps [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► everything secret so this is sort of the [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► different shades of hosting shows with [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► with geeks like you at least you share [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► with the topic is you let me pick the [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► topic and this week I picked backups [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► yeah I want you to feel like you have [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► some influence over what looking about [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► in the show if I just picked you know I [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► could pick a topic too and I can give [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► suggestions but sometimes if I'm making [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► a list of topics my favorites may not be [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► the ones that are actually most [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► interesting to people so I leave it to [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► you to think about what's interesting to [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► talk about in light of all your other [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► shows that you've you know I've talked [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► about different topics under so yeah so [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► yeah but then once you pick it then I [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► have to think about what I'm going to [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► say [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► I go back there I gather some links for [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► the show notes afterwards stuff like [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► that yes I'm definitely a preparer I'm [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► not quite sure what Gruber isn't or [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► maybe he just likes to pretend that he's [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► not prepared I don't well I mean we talk [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► about all different things but who knows [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► but anyway so so you've done some [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► preparations for this show so what how [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► do you want to approach this backups [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► topic so um I was thinking about it like [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► what's my way in to talk about backups [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► um and there's just really no good way [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► and except for me to just go right to my [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► thesis and then we'll work backwards [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► from there you know so to say this is my [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► main point you can stop listening the [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► show as soon as I get this out if you [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► just completely agree and know what I'm [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► going to say and then I'll just [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► elaborate on and explain where it comes [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► from and my thesis is basically that [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► this is Apple centric to why the Apple [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► centric I'm an apples Apple centric kind [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► of guy so you could substitute some [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► other company here but I think Apple [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► actually is the most relevant company [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► when it comes to this thesis and it is [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► that Apple has spent like decades [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► encouraging us to use computers to [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► manage our digital stuff and these are [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► things that are not just like our email [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► and stuff like that but things that are [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► probably our most precious nonliving [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► possessions which are things like our [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► family photos movies of our family like [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► our memories things that would [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► traditionally be in like a scrapbook [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► right original tracks photo albums or [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► whatever yeah so they've spent decades [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► making awesome software for this [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► computers computers with cameras [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► computers that work with cameras [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► programs that the whole I live suite [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► like dedicated millions and millions and [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► millions possibly billions of dollars [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► making us able to do this and [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► encouraging us with every keynote hey [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► you know take pictures of your family [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► look at these cool movies you can make [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► you make movie trailers your vacation [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► put your memories on your computer and I [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► think and that's been great I do that [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► and it's enabled people who didn't know [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► how to use computers to be successful in [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► doing these things but I think Apple now [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► bears some pretty big responsibility for [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► providing us with some way to keep this [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► data safe all right and for years they [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► weren't interested in that [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► responsibility it was basically please [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► buy a Mac please buy AI life or comes [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► with your computer upgrade I live please [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► take pictures and movies of your family [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► and make calendars and do all the stuff [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► and keep all your data on your [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► back and when you buy a new Mac you can [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► transfer all this data over and you're a [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► library of data will just expand and [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► expand and will make you faster versions [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► of iPhoto and iLife to work with this [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► but when your hard drive died which [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► inevitably happens these things last [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► maybe you know three to five years and [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► you went into the Apple Store and said [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► my Mac's not working because you're not [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► a computer guy please fix it for me they [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► said all your hard drives did and then [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► you say all right well what happened to [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► my family photos and they might ask well [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► did you have a backup and they'll go [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► what do you mean backup I did I did [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► everything you told me to do you know I [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► bought what you told me to buy I did [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► what you told me to do and now all you [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► telling me my family's entire photo [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► album is gone that's that's a bad [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► experience I'm and my connection to this [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► problem aside from my own personal [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► backup situation is through family and I [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► think like most geeks you end up as like [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► the family's computer guy I don't know [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► if you have this experience a lot of [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► these a lot of you abdicate that [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► responsibility and say please do not ask [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► me about your computer but no you [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► inherit it you have to especially if you [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► are knowledgeable you're fount you can't [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► you know that's something you can hide [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► from a stranger pretty well but you [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► can't hide that from your own family [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► yeah you have some family [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► responsibilities to do it my first [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► family responsibilities to try to get my [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► family on max because I don't want to [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► support them if they're not amen I mean [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► that's that's the kind of thing even if [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► you yourself have you know like an [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► Ubuntu server under the desk and you [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► know you you use other systems just do [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► yourself a favor and get your whole [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► family on max there's a smartest thing I [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► did I thought back in the day when I [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► used to build pcs I thought it well if I [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► build a PC for my mom and give that to [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► her then I'll know I know exactly what's [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► going on with it and it took I think it [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► took two weeks before she did something [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► I never and it wasn't you know it wasn't [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► something that she did was stupid who's [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► just she happened to do that one thing [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► that as a geek you would never do but a [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► regular human being would do all the [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► time I don't remember what it was but [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► just one thing leads to another and [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► these things become unmaintainable [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► people she went on the internet with [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► Windows and Internet Explorer 6 back in [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► 2001 probably that's not something you [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► can say please mom don't go on the [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► Internet right that's that's a [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► non-starter man my horror story is that [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► my sister bought an e machines remember [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► though yeah an e machines computer for [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► like three hundred bucks in Walmart this [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► horrible blue little [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► first thing and then she got NetZero as [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► her isp / dial-up and that machine [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► quickly became just a cesspool of you [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► know a hive of scum and villainy it was [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► just ridiculous yeah so I eventually did [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► get our intern iMac but but then I had [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► the problem of like I'm encouraging my [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► family you know to spend big money you [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► know compared with Rancho deli machines [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► thing you know you have to spend over a [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► thousand yeah it's probably going to be [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► like 1,500 and actually the Mac I want [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► you to get with the extra random blah [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► blah blah is going to be like 1,600 and [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► it's like you know spending all this [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► money and I said but now look what you [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► can do with it you can make movies your [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► kids you can take photos look how easy [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► this you can do this you could never do [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► it before on your old PC because you [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► don't know how to use it but with these [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► Mac's you know point them in the right [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► direction and they can figure it out [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► they click around and they would start [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► to use them they would say it's great [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► I've got my pictures on there and we [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► just had a baby look at these pictures [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► we put up up on a web page on you know I [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► encourage them to buy dot Mac - just [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► because it's so easy to just click a [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► button and have pictures up you know [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► from the Apple bundled applications [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► right and that's kind of a good feeling [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► that you see your family being [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► successful with technology and you can [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► support them easily but it's a sinking [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► feeling in that you're like well the [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► clocks tickin on that hard drive now [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► because they bought one hard drive it [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► came inside the computer it's got all [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► their photos on it and there's no way I [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► can I can explain to them how to do [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► backups like you know by retrospect to [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► put in optical disks and burn them and [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► make sure you do it in a regular [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► schedule like this is nothing on the [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► inside in fact this was back in then you [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► know 2001-2002 like it's a really really [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► bad feeling that you've just got your [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► entire family doing this and you know [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► you're setting them up for failure so I [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► wrote about this on on my blog on ours [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► back in 2005 [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► and this will be in the show notes and [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► the title of the article was the case [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► for raid which if it's kind of [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► long-winded as I tend to be but if you [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► read through it you'll see that it's not [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► really about rate it's not Li about this [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► problem that I just said that that once [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► people have put their memories on a [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► computer they need somebody to back it [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► up and there's no good solution so my [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► suggestion at the time was that since [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► since I feel like this is apples [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► responsibility they should just put two [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► hard drives in every single Mac and have [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► them mirrored and at least that that be [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► a defense against a single hard drive [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► failure so when your one hard drive and [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► it'll be [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► you take it in to the Apple store they [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► yank out the bad one and either replace [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► it with a new one or you know under [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► warranty or make you pay for a new one [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► but your data is not gone it's safe on [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► the other hard drive it doesn't protect [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► you against accidentally deleting files [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► it doesn't protect you against file [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► system corruption it doesn't save old [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► versions of files it's not a complete [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► solution but I just wanted to say when [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► your one hard drive goes bad you need [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► some protection and you know I said why [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► can't you just do this yourself buy an [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► external hard drive or whatever you have [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► to put it in the box it has to be [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► something you don't have to buy extra [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► because after I've made this big sales [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► push and said you're going to spend [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► $1,600 on a Mac and trust me it'll be [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► fine oh and by the way you got to spend [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► $200 for an external hard drive - and [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► have it plugged in and have a turn it's [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► just an extra complication and you know [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► the raid set up can you make a raid out [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► of an internal and external drive and [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► boot from it reliably and what kind of [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► problems you're gonna have with that I [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► wanted Apple to just make it a solution [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► that's invisible and take the you know [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► take whatever hit it is to their margins [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► to just be able to and I wondered if you [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► were working at Apple how would you [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► sleep at night saying we're selling [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► people these computers have one hard [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► drive and most people are putting their [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► memories on them and hardly ever goes [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► bad [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► they're Sol irony I didn't imagine if [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► that happened in I mean and occasionally [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► something like this might happen but [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► imagine if something was that prevalent [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► in say the automobile industry you know [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► if they knew that you know yeah your [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► tires wear down but if they knew that [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► periodically your tires could just [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► you're doing nothing wrong you're you're [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► you're maintaining everything and once a [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► while your tires just fly off your car [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► while you're driving it I mean yeah that [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► can happen in extreme circumstances but [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► it doesn't happen every day but people's [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► drives die every single day and it [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► really gets back to what's replaceable [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► because they do give you a spare tire [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► most cars or nowadays they give you run [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► flats to save a little bit of money and [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► wait for for the spare tire but bottom [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► line worst thing that happens when you [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► get a flat tire is you have to get towed [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► and you get in your tire tire is it [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► replaceable photos of your baby are not [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► precisely exactly and and you could say [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► well so it's no different than if you [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► know if you had the photos in a shoebox [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► and it's you and your house flooded or [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► the house burned down or something I [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that's kind of true in a similar [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► situation but your hard drive is so much [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► more likely to fail than your house is [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► to burn drive down your hard drive is so [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► much more likely to fail then [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► we get flooded and the other thing I [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► would say to that is the whole point of [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► digital stuff is supposed to be better [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► than the old cruddy physical stuff so I [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► don't accept that because photos in [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► shoeboxes were vulnerable to natural [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► disasters the digital photo should be to [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► digital can be copied perfectly that's [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► the advantage of digital so I reject any [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► notion that you only need to match the [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► durability of physical photos which by [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► the way you weren't matching anyway [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► because the mean time between failure [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► for hard drives is like you know three [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► to five years and usually getting worse [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► real time there some so the Apple [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► eventually though I mean they did try to [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► address this yeah yeah so this was 2005 [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► when I wrote about this and my [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► suggestion was just put two hard drives [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► in there and take the money hit because [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► you should be doing something so that [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► they they did try to address it to their [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► credit in 2007 two years later with the [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► time machine feature introduced in Mac [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► OS 10.5 leopard like was 10 10.5 leopard [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► and when I wrote about it in my 10.5 [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► review I think I called it the the best [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► feature in leopard and perhaps the best [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► feature ever added to Mac OS 10 and I [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► still stand by that simply because it's [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► not that it's such amazing wonderful [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► technologically beautiful feature but [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► that it filled really what I felt was a [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► really really important need that was [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► completely underdressed in a satisfying [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► way before I did it in a way that it [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► made it as easy as you could possibly [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► make it on now they didn't include the [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► extra hard drive but at the very least [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► they had it so if you did if you did [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► manage to buy an external hard drive and [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► you plugged it in it would prompt you do [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► you want to use this harder for backups [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► and you click yes and you're done and [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► that's it and that's pretty much as easy [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► as you could possibly make it and then [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► Time Machine had the advantage of also [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► saving old versions of your files not [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► just you know the current version sort [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► protect you against accidental deletion [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► but that time machine did really help in [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► that it was sort of the the backup [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► solution that people will actually use [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► and previously Apple had had that backup [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► program do you remember that yeah yeah [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► it was it was sort of connected it had [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► an umbrella as an icon right John and I [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► mean it it was like a it you tied into [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► MobileMe in some way this is back when [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► it was still called da Mac yeah it was [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► is you know hopeful for it if you google [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► for apple backup you'll see that this [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► program is generally considered to be a [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► sick joke yeah it was not good because [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► it did the one thing go on the backup [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► program to be as reliable and this [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► backup program could accidentally delete [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► your data it could corrupt backups [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► didn't work right it was incredibly hard [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► and complicated to use and and the [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► bottom line is since it was backing up [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► the dot Mac you you can't back up your [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► iPhoto library there have one kid for [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► one year your iPhoto library will blow [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► through your iMac storage right never [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► mind if you have a family and have been [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► doing this for years dot Mac even if [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► that program worked perfectly which [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► decidedly did not that backup program [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► was not a solution and nobody used it [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► very few people have heard of it except [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► for geeks like us who tried to use it [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► and then found out the sad story of how [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► bad it actually works so I think they [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► kept making it even after time machine [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► but the backup program is kind of a [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► footnote of history at this point that [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► should be like a cautionary tale how not [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► to do backup and with time machines they [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► got a lot of it right but the thing I [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► get back to a time machine is I'm still [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► faced with when I tell my family to buy [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► a Mac or upgrade their Mac make sure you [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► get a hard drive of you know close to [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► the same size as your internal one you [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► know ideally at least as big as your [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► internal one to do your backups down [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► with Time Machine and it's an external [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► thing you have to buy an apple doesn't [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► sell them do you remember when Apple [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► salt hard drives old man Benjamin I'm [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► thinking about it but I I remember when [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► they sold the external super drives [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► should I thumb through my catalog from [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► 1992 you have to go back farther than [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► that Apple did sell the Apple HDS C [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► series of products that were like kind [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► of platinum plastic boxes that had hard [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► drives inside them I believe they were [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► scuzzy and it used to sell external hard [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► drives okay they used to also sell [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► printers you remember that oh yeah I [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► remember that they did that a lot longer [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► yeah and eventually they got out of all [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► these businesses I'm assuming because [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► you know it's a sucker's business it's [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► low margin there's not a lot of room for [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► innovation they tried to make it high [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► margin and people just bought [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► third-party printers so we have the [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► situation today where you go into an [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► Apple store and they'll sell you a Mac [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► but if you want a printer well here we [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► have the selection of Epson and HP and [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► so on and so forth afrinic Apple brand [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► different even though apples and making [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► them they were just you know rebranding [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► by the time they will give you a rebate [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► I don't know if they're still doing this [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► but a few years ago it was the case that [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► they basically you would get a free [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► printer with a Mac or you could get an [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► iPod instead right but not an Apple [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► printer or not though that's that's [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► another type of Kris show how horrible [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► printers are Apple tries to pick good [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► ones that will work well with your Mac [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► but it's not a great experience but the [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► Apple just doesn't want to be in those [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► businesses and hard drives are a similar [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► thing if you go there and they will [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► actually try to push a hard drive on you [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► like good little salespeople and say hey [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► you're buying a new Mac we have this [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► great feature called time machine [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► by the way to use it you'll need an [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► external hard drive and we have some [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► here from Western Digital and from you [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► know the company whose name I don't know [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► how to pronounce but I'm going to call [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► it LaCie since that's how I pronouncing [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► it since I was 10 years old but if it's [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► lasse I'm sorry employees of that [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► company please send me correction email [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► but they sell third-party hard drives no [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► starter party hard drives are an insane [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► ripoff because the mechanism in them [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► usually cost 80 bucks and they charge [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► you $200 for the drive for the plastic [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► case power supply [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► you know firewire chipset cable wall [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► wart that will go bad in a year and a [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► half by the way there they seem like a [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► big ripoff to me but Apple still doesn't [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► want to be in that business um [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► so anytime you're you're in an Apple [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► Store and encouraged to buy a third [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► party product the free printer is you [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► feel like all I need I need to print in [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► there free so why not but the hard [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► drives are not free and it just feels [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► like you're leaving a little bit of the [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► Apple umbrella when you're told to by a [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► third party thing and in reality those [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► star Barbie things not usually up to [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► Apple quality not up to the build [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► quality not up to the reliability and [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► sourcing of components that the [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► warranties are not as good it's not part [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► of the Apple experience it's this other [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► thing so I still feel like that's a hole [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► in the an apples backup strategy with [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► with Time Machine and the other big [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► thing of course is that if your house [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► burns down doesn't matter that you had [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► your data on to hard drives they're both [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► melted right so the big hole and that is [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► you really need some sort of network [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► backup or an off-site or some kind yeah [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► and forget about off-site no normal [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► people are not going to do off site [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► where they swap hard drives with their [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► neighbors or their relatives that's just [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► not going to happen it's just too [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► complicated [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► and network you could argue that we're [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► network connections are not good enough [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► you have to support that but I would say [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► that if you just left your Mac on all [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► the time eventually it'll trickle up all [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► your data to whatever magical [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► destination [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► and so I think the next thing I have my [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► notes here and this is just this is the [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► point of the program we talk about our [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► backup regime so I'll let you go first [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► and say what do you do to protect your [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► not your business data because I don't [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► that's kind of a different thing I don't [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► think it's relevant to anyone who's not [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► running their own business but your [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► personal data the pictures of your kids [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► movies stuff like that how do you keep [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► that safe yeah I mean I think I think [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► it's it's definitely a different [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► situation and you make it's important to [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► make that distinction a business backup [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► strategy I think is very different and [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► should be very different maybe than [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► personal one and I've tried all of these [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► different solutions I've tried time [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► machine and I think it's great I think [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► it's not as great for geeks like us as [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► it is for regular human beings who don't [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► necessarily understand backups who don't [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► want to understand backups [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► who only occasionally and only in a [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► disaster type situation would ever need [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► to recover their data from a backup like [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► that I know a lot of people who are in [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► you know they might be geeks but they're [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► not like I mean I'm a UNIX geek at heart [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► so that's the probably the worst kind [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► but you know designers I guess they fit [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► into the geek category but they don't [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► say a lot of it a lot of designers they [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► really just want to focus on design for [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► example they don't they don't understand [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► computers and they or they don't want [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► understand art yeah they are min and [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► that that's probably a safe [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► generalization to make in a lot of cases [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► they believe that a computer is just a [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► tool that lets them do their art and [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► there's nothing wrong with that that is [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► appropriate for their profession yeah [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► it's exactly and I know a lot of them [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► who have had these Time Machine backups [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► and when they get a new Mac instead of [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► doing you know what what you and I would [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► probably do which is maybe even manually [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► bring data over and that that might be a [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► topic for another show - how do you [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► migrate machines but I you know instead [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► of doing something like that now when [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► you get a new Mac you turn it on it'll [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► actually say you can transfer your data [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► not just from another Mac but from a [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► Time Machine backup and they've done [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► I've seen people who have done this [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► even even putting a new hard drive in a [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► machine where they had a hard drive fail [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► and they had a good time machine back up [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► they put they install the new driver at [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► they let Apple do it for them and then [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► when they turned it on it stay it says [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► brand-new install where you getting your [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► data from you plug in your time machine [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► back up and it just everything shows up [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► and my understanding is that doing that [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► actually takes a long time like well [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► many hours and that it also that it [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► works I've never done this I've never [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► tried this I it's funny because this [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► thing that that both of us would [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► recommend for all normal human beings to [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► use Time Machine is something that I [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► just have not I have not had a lot of [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► luck with it in the early days and [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► that's because I always tried to do [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► weird things with it like I always tried [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► to force it to work over network volumes [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► which it's not as good at doing but if [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► you're the kind of person who has a [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► computer and you want to back it up and [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► you get a hard drive you plug it in [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► guess what it'll just work and in fact [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► when you plug in a hard drive to your [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► Mac it will ask you if you want to use [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► it with Time Machine and you just click [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► yes and your backup is essentially going [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► to just work at that point but me I [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► haven't done that I'm much I still do it [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► Amit but and this goes back to my days [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► of running data centers and working in [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► Knox and stuff and being you know being [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► the guy that sets up the backup strategy [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► and using you know that just to date [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► myself a little bit here Sun OS 41.3 [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► and you know running you know command [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► line applications either you know making [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► manual tape backups and flipping tape [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► drives and stuff I mean that that's [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► where I come from so for me I don't [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► really mind a slightly more manual [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► process but what I do for almost all of [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► our Mac's [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► here that are what I would consider [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► personal Mac's John would be I use [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► SuperDuper to create full Drive image [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► clones of each individual Mac which [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► really is only two we only have two [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► machines that I would consider to be [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► personal machines alive I have a 13-inch [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► unibody MacBook and my wife has the [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► latest 13-inch MacBook Pro you have [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► drives connected directly to these [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► machines will plug you in your plug in a [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► USB mind [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► a half FireWire it also doesn't have a [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► backlit keyboard but I'm using it anyway [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► it was my wife's I actually I'm using my [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► wife's old MacBook as my main machine [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► now because all the other ones are tied [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► up in this this recording stuff so we [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► will plug in a a harddrive USB and run [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► SuperDuper and clone it and I'll tell [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► you why I'm comfortable doing that both [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► with my wife stuff and my stuff and we [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► can talk about the business stuff [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► because then it gets much more involved [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► and it drives lesea drives and Drobo [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► drives and everything else and an [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► off-site and networked and everything up [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► but I'll tell you why I'm okay doing [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► that with both me and Moe it because I [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► have another little little part of the [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► strategy which is Dropbox and I have all [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► of what I would what I would consider [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► there's there's stuff that you [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► identified as being important which we [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► can call memories and then there is [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► another aspect which I would call data [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► data would be things like files that are [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► not images and not movies but are [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► important tax documents as though yeah [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► maybe I mean it you know that I never I [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► never liked having that stuff [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► computerize anyway but I mean it could [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► it could just be you know documents [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► things that you've typed you know that [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► kind of that kind of stuff all of that I [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► think Dropbox is perfect for that and in [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► some cases if you don't have a lot of [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► images which we do but if you don't I [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► suppose you could use Dropbox for that [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► too but in the case of my wife like [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► she's not she's not creating she trusts [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► maybe this isn't so smart but she trusts [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► me with all of the all the images and [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► all that stuff so she doesn't she she [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► knows that anything like that that's on [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► her machine it's essentially just you [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► know as she knows I have a I of a copy [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► or I have the original or whatever so in [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► the case of her machine she's also not [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► doing a lot of incremental changes on on [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► her machine [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► she doesn't care if she has a file that [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► she updates she doesn't care about two [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► revisions back now all of my source code [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► for all of the stuff that I do all the [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► all the systems everything any software [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► anything like that [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► I've got all of that up in a in a source [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► code repository somewhere whether it's [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► github or somewhere else so anything [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► that I'm creating on a day to day basis [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► on that machine is either going to be in [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► a source code repository or going to be [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► copied over to Dropbox the exception to [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► that is the other category which is [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► memories and that's certainly going to [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► be taken care of with the with the [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► super-duper clone i actually have a [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► couple of different drives that i'll [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► swap out and do a super-duper clone and [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► I do have a safety deposit box and [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► periodically I will bring it you know [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► take a backup to it but that's extreme [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► and weird and and most people aren't [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► going to do that kind of thing so I'm [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► not but I'm not doing a regular time [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► machine kind of backup I just did it [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► just I think there are people who do it [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► but I would want that to be a networked [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► solution and I don't have a time capsule [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► and I the transfer rates that I saw over [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► Wi-Fi by connecting a hard drive to my [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► Airport Extreme Base Station we're so [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► bad and my understanding is you can't [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► take it maybe I'm wrong about this maybe [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► they've improved this since last time I [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► tried it years back but you can't do [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► like a local time machine back up to an [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► external drive and then also use that [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► drive later on on your airport [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► time machine can you you can if you knew [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► the insane contortions that you have to [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► do to to make that happen I mean the [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► beginnings of smart sparse bundles the [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► network drive so you could take your [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► drive that you backed up to locally [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► image it is a sparse bundle put it on [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► there twiddle with little files that [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► match with the drive ID like if you go [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► to Mac os10 hints.com or whatever that [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► URL redirects to now there's tons of [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► tips on how to convince time machine to [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► backup to this thing that you've [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► arranged and say no trust me time [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► machine this is this is the same place [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► you were backing up before pick up where [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► you left off under all sorts of [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► scenarios and some of them are you know [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► my hard drive went bad I might have a [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► new computer I want to move it from a [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► local to a network it can be done but [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► not by mortals not by you know regular [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► people now for business stuff I've got a [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► Drobo everything I keep we store [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► everything on the Drobo and then I [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► backup the Drobo so Drobo for us is it [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► four five by five [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► Drobo is primary storage and then I use [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► SuperDuper to clone the Drobo um usually [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► nightly so say that again turn it on to [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► what clone it on to a lacy raid thing [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► that's it's you're on with both [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► pronunciations though let's see lacy [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► however you want I'm just I figure if I [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► say two different ways then you'll be [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► right half the time yeah so it's you [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► know we back it up to that and that [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► thing doesn't have nearly the capacity [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► of the Drobo but I'm not nearly at the [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► capacity the Drobo yet and I'll deal [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► with that later and as far as as far as [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► these other there's companies out there [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► uh there's Backblaze there's CrashPlan [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► there's is carbonite another one yep and [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► I'll use another one [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► I'll tell I have tried I tried back lays [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► and I tried a CrashPlan and both of them [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► seem pretty good there's different [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► degrees of how flexible they can be when [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► you're doing the backups but the problem [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► that I had is if you were to look at all [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► of the personal photos and stuff that we [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► have I mean like you said you know you [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► have your first kid and if you have a [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► DSLR forget about it I mean you're just [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► gonna amassed RAW files take a you know [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► raw raw images take up so much space [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► that you're gonna you're going to eat up [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► hard drive space and when you try back [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► something like that up over the kind of [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► networks that that that we have [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► available here now we're not on the the [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► FiOS like you guys it takes it to em [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► mean maybe it would eventually catch up [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► but it was it had taken like a week and [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► so wasn't done yeah and the thing about [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► those photos of your kids is you don't [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► delete the baby photos no too like okay [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► it just grows it only it only goes in [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► one direction that direction is more [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► more and more and God forbid each so [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► having more kids or if you if you get [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► into photography as a hobby or anything [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► like that it's it's kind of weird that [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► you know we started having people our [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► age started having kids around the same [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► time that Apple has started to make it [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► convenient for normal people to keep [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► their memories on their computer because [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► it basically means that our entire child [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► in years we'll be on the computer so we [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► start started filling the stuff as soon [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► as it came along and these kids entire [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► lives are going to be there and I guess [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► for all generations going forward [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► that'll be the case but what I don't [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► have done is I don't have a good [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► solution for an off-site backup for [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► personal stuff that is in the memories [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► category and that's the stuff that I [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► need the best solution for I mean look [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► if if something terrible happened to the [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► Drobo you know when we talk about [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► business stuff I mean I'm doing I [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► basically I'm doing three to four hours [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► five days a week of audio recording and [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► two or three hours around more than that [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► a week of video recording I mean you [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► know in an absolute worst-case scenario [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► the Drobo blows up the the the the Lacey [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► the lassie blows up I don't have I don't [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► have a backup of this and by the way [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► when I record sometimes we record right [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► to the to the Drobo other times we're [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► recording to the hard drive of the [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► machine and transferring it depending on [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► the situation and and my engineer who's [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► in another state also has the original [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► files up to a you know maybe like the [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► last week's worth of files who's doing [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► the editing you know I mean worst case [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► scenario yeah I've lost those but as [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► long as I haven't lost that day's show [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► the mix down version to the mp3 is out [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► on the internet in multiple places so [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► what have I lost essentially I've lost [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► the backup anyway um right but I mean [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► I'm not I'm not saying that I'm Anna and [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► I mean look if I lost that if I lost the [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► the online version and the backup online [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► version which one is on s3 and one is on [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► a server somewhere else I I think [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► there's enough people on the internet [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► who have downloaded these shows that I [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► could like say oh my gosh we lost [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► everything and through crowdsourcing we [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► could have it all back I wouldn't have [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► the original files but you know so it [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► again it's kind of a weird situation [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► with me what about you what are you [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► doing I'm sure you've got you know you [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► probably do have certain people spread [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► across the United States with copies of [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► your data in trust so I started out as a [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► as a backup slacker as a young geek and [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► that I would I knew enough to know that [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► I needed backups and I knew enough to [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► work complicated program so at various [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► times I had like educational license [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► versions of retrospect I know if you [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► ever used that program but it was [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► horrible yeah I'll have you really [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► really fiendishly complex and to back up [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► because hard drives are so expensive I [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► was backing up to like optical media so [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► if you've ever done retro effects [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► backups to optical media it's one of the [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► worst experiences possible and it's so [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► painful even for a geek that you tend [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► not to do it regularly no but let me [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► interrupt you and tell it tell Pete [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► because I'm sure there are some people [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► in the audience who don't know what [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► retrospect is retrospect kind of goes to [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► toward what you would almost see in in a [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► corporate infrastructure of sorts there [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► is a centralized computer server if you [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► will that handles the backups [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► it is it is instructed to go out to the [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► remote client machines who are on the [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► same network in one way or another and [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► talk to them they are running the [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► retrospect agent which is the client [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► software that basically sits and waits [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► and waits for the server to knock on the [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► door and say time for your backup and [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► then the client starts going through all [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► of the data on machines on the machine [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► keeping track of what's been changed or [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► updated and sends that data over the [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► network back to that server who makes a [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► copy of it right there safe and sound [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► on the server and this again can take [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► five seconds if not much has changed or [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► can take five hours if a lot has changed [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► and this is really useful in the IT type [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► infrastructure in the small office [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► infrastructure and the big office [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► infrastructure in some cases and it's [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► especially useful if you have people who [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► maybe are like traveling salespeople [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► they show up on the network when they [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► show up on the network their home [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► network the retrospect client can tell [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► the server I'm here and they'll get that [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► backup done right away so it's it's [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► great in theory but it is incredibly [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► caught you need an IT guy to set it up [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► it's not even though they didn't try to [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► sell personal copies of that software [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► it's more of a I mean when you're in [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► education I was in college my star this [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► you see a lot of this in fact I ran [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► retrospect service for you know little [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► groups and in the school must but I was [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► doing myself but for personal use it's [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► it's overkill yeah and you can cut the [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► network out because you can actually [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► have the client on the server on the [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► same machine which was what I was [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► usually doing but the worst part about [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► it from a personal perspective is that [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► it's backups are old-school backups it [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► writes to proprietary files that [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► could be on tapes even it doesn't kind [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► of media agnostic but the bottom line is [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► if if your computer goes bad you need [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► retrospect to get that stuff back [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► got a bunch of files sitting on disk [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► somewhere too grateful encoded [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► compressed big binary blob didn't serve [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► basis [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► god forbid like this is why I was bad [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► with obstacle if disk number 15 of the [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► series has gone bad because I'm doing a [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► bad like crazy you can't even you know I [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► thought I just want every file except [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► for the ones that are just 15 sorry [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► not particularly easy for you to do so [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► so that was where I was in the dark ages [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► and I knew it wasn't a good solution but [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► I still have tons and tons of CDs worth [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► of that I don't know why I would never [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► be able to recover them because I have [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► to gin up a machine with retrospect on [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► it they could actually read these things [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► and run the old version of the software [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► but but that was bad and it was mostly [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► because hard drives were so expensive [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► eventually it became cheap enough where [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► you could say that you know it's [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► actually more economical for you to buy [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► a second hard drive and back up to [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► another harder which was a crazy notion [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► back of that because you backed up the [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► tape you backed up ops you back up to [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► something that was cheap you're gonna [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► back up the whole of the hard drive why [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► if you've got that kind of money why not [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► use the hard drive to store files [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► because hey you know you've got double [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► the hard drive space you know went from [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► 10 megabytes to 20 megabytes I'm gonna [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► use that whole 10 megabyte hard drive [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► for five hundred dollars just to back up [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► that's absurd especially for you know [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► young kiddos like a you know college [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► teenage or whatever you have that kind [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► of money to invest in something it's [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► hard to just use it for backups which is [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► the most boring thing ever but [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► eventually did to go to that solution [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► and I remember when I finally committed [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► to doing that to having another hard [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► drive that I was looking for a program [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► that I could run it was IRS I've got a [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► second hard drive I'm actually going to [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► dedicate the backups I need to program [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► all I want to do is just take my car and [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► hard drive and copy down to the other [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► one and I don't remember how I end up [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► finding super duper but I downloaded and [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► like I let me try this thing named seems [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► stupid it's got an exclamation point and [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► like yahoo it's inter capped it's [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► ridiculous I launched it it's a brush [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► metal window fine whatever [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► it's a brush metal with like one bumpy [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► and it says press this button to copy [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► your hard drive with his other hard [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► drive I press the button walked away [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► came back a few hours later and it said [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► I've made a complete bootable copy of [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► your hard drive and I said Yeah right [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► sure I rebooted from the secondary copy [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► it booted right up it was like I was at [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► the same hard drive and I immediately [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► click the buy buy buy button as the [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► fastest software deserve [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► my entire life I used that program once [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► and I bought it I wish I could have paid [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► more from him like it was the it was the [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► best one of the best software buying [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► experiences I've ever had because I [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► envisioned a program in my head that I [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► didn't think exists I tried a couple [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► things and won't behold I found the [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► program that was in my head it was [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► beautiful and I just loved it and I [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► still you know loved that program so [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► super duper is great freeze just just to [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► kind of clarify what you would do we [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► said for people who don't know how this [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► thing works this is a Mac application [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► specifically it's not there's no PC [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► version of it sorry and it does exactly [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► what John said it will it will go in it [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► will backup your it will clone your [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► entire hard drive but what's better than [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► that is it's it's smart enough to know [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► not to do that exact same process every [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► time the next time you run it the first [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► time you run it can take hours the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► second time you run it typically takes [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► minutes because it's very fast it looks [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► and says what's changed and just copies [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► what's changed and and and it is kind of [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► miraculous how how this thing works and [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► it it's actually technically interesting [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► because since I know a lot about the [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► file system API is and everything when [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► if you do know a lot about it and you [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► hear how SuperDuper works under the [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► covers but you know it does things even [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► though it's called smart copy where it [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► says only copy the things that have [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► changed which saves a tremendous amount [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► of time it does it in one of the dumbest [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► possible ways it looks at every single [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► file every time it says alright this [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► file is it different yes no copy you [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► know and and you would think well [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► they've got these great api's now that [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► the operating system can tell you please [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► tell me all the files that have changed [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► since since the last time I backed up [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► and if it's only three files it'll [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► instantly tell you those three files and [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► you'll be done you don't have to check [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► every single file on my disk because I [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► have millions of files I have way too [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► many files and the number of files not [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► the amount of data is what really adds [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► the time of backup if your hard drive [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► was one big file it would go really fast [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► to copy the whole thing but if you if [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► you split your hard drive into three [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► million files it will take way way way [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► longer so you know you're like why super [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► duper statting every single one it's [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► hard to use UNIX Peaks but why is super [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► duper looking at every single one of my [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► files on on my disk every time that's [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► not the smart back up it seems pretty [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► dumb well the answer is that using FS [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► events you'll miss files the FS events [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► isn't a hundred percent reliable and [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► this is exactly what you want from a [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► backup program do [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► the most reliable thing possible not the [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► fanciest not the one with the most hype [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► not the one that uses the most [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► interesting technology they experimental [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► II determine then it can be confirmed [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► trivially if you google for ways to fool [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► FS events there are a series of changes [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► that can be made that FS events just [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► doesn't pick up and you'll end up with [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► the backup is not the same as your other [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► one so they stick there what you want [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► from like a you know the company that's [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► building your house or a financial firm [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► although that's kind of ridiculous in [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► the current climate but back in the 80s [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► a financial firm but you want solid [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► dependable boring staid ridiculous [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► unexcited you want it to be work every [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► single time and that's what super dooper [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► does so it's not as fast as it could [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► possibly be because correctness is more [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► important than speed and I really [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► appreciate that about SuperDuper and I'm [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► wary of any backup program that claims [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► to for example be faster than SuperDuper [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► Biggs's uses FS events crossed off the [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► list immediately because it's just the [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► known issue that's not going to get [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► everything now people are asking the [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► chatroom they're saying they're saying [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► well can you do a super-duper clone over [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► the network on a drive that's connected [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► to an airport extreme and the answer is [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► super duper doesn't just clone drives [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► directly you can also have it clone to a [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► sparse bundle is that am I saying that [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► right yeah and then if you can you can [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► you can have it clone to a sparse bundle [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► on a directly attached network drive or [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► on a network drive just directly [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► attached drive you can do that on each [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► of the machines you want to backup to [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► then you plug that into your your [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► Airport Express or whatever your base [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► station of any kind that you want and [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► and then just the next time you want to [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► do a clone you tell it to use that image [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► that's sitting up there on now on the [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► server now being served up and it will [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► work it will work fine yeah I'm it's [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► harder to judge by a harder to clone [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► back or running out of time here I don't [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► think I would feel the whole time but [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► let me just finish my backup regime so [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► yeah you have - my history my actual [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► backup regime is this what I eventually [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► settled on we can go over an hour John [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► alright well you know do you if you want [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► to get I don't know I don't want to pull [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► a Merlin man just keep talking so uh is [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► it so what eventually settled on is this [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► is my personal solution I would not [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► recommend this for everybody as Stefan [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► a geek solution but it shows the gap [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► between my solution and what a normal [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► piece person would do is exactly the gap [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► between how backups are today and how [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► they really should be for everyone to be [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► protected so it would be nice if this [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► solution that I have didn't need to be [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► this complicated but it does so I always [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► buy Mac Pros I'm a tower guy [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► I've always bought them mostly I buy [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► them because they have the good video [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► cards and I do a little bit of Mac PC [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► gaming so that's my only choice in the [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► Mac world I gotta buy the big honkin [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► Tower because it's the only one that has [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► the you know a high-end video card in [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► but the other thing that I like about [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► the towers is that nowadays although not [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► so much back in the bad old days of to [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► internal drives nowadays you can fit [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► four internal drives inside these things [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► um and internal drives are way cheaper [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► than external oh yeah okay you and you [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► can pick the mechanism so you go to a [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► storage room you calm which is a great [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► website find the hard drive that exactly [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► meets your needs buy that exact [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► mechanism from whatever cut-rate company [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► you can find you know you don't have to [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► buy it from some fancy retailer get a [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► really good price on it slap those [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► suckers in no cabling no power supply [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► now you've got four hard drives and what [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► I do with these four hard drives is I [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► decide how much data that I that will [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► hold all of my stuff unfortunately this [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► number keeps going up fortunately hard [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► drive sizes keep going up but it used to [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► be like 250 gig that 500 gig today I'm [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► using a terabyte so I said I'm going to [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► have a terabyte of data this will fit [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► all my movies all my photos all all my [TS]